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Hello, I'm Jim Cornall and this is the WalkingPost
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.com podcast. WalkingPost .com is the news website
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dedicated to walking, with all the latest on
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gear, books, trails, festivals, events, health,
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fitness and more. This podcast is number 58 and
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it's going live on August the 14th. Heatwave
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number four, is it now? It's even warm here in
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Scotland. But, of course, no clear skies for
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the eclipse this past week. Watching it on the
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news isn't really the same thing. We were filming
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in St Andrews last week, not the one in Canada,
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the one in Scotland, and I was attacked twice.
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once by a very angry wasp, and the other was
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a very hungry herring gull that flew into my
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head to try and knock a sandwich out of my hand
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just as I took a bite. It was like being punched,
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but I did hold on to the sandwich. There are
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signs everywhere saying don't feed the gulls.
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Well, I managed not to, just. I wasn't even angry,
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they are just hungry. It always amazes me how
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people get mad at animals going after food or
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coming into urban areas. We've destroyed their
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habitat, what are they supposed to do? Anyway,
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moving along, let's have a look at August the
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14th. It's World Lizard Day. It's Tattoo Removal
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Day, and the only way that I could do that is
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if I had one in the first place. It's also Pakistan
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Independence Day. When you look back over what
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happened on this day in history, it's all wars
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and massacres, depressing stuff. But on this
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day in 1893, France became the first country
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to introduce motor vehicle registration. I imagine
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that was a pretty easy job in the early days.
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It's the day offshore pirate radio was made illegal
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in the UK. That was in 1967. I did used to enjoy
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listening to Radio Luxembourg and sometimes Radio
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Caroline as well, depending on the weather. For
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birthdays of people you might have heard of,
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we have David Crosby of Crosby, Stills & Nash,
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Steve Martin, Magic Johnson and Sarah Brightman.
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I did see something interesting related to that
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a couple of weeks ago and it was a page of four
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autographs of musicians. But what was unusual
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was that it wasn't in a traditional autograph
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book. It was in a book from the early part of
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the 1900s and it was called a birthday book and
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I thought that it was brilliant. So the idea
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is... Kind of like a cross between an autograph
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book and a diary. So when you ask somebody to
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sign your autograph book, they sign it on the
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page of their birthday. A great idea, and I think
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one that should be brought back. Last time on
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the podcast, we talked about a new book called
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Walking from Home to Rome. with its author Geraldine
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McFall. This week we're heading to a walking
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festival, although not literally, but it is the
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Dorking Walking Festival, so I guess we're talking
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dorking walking. And that's a conversation with
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Joe McGowan, the Dorking Business Improvement
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District Manager. But before we do get going,
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if you do have news, guest ideas or even subjects
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to cover, or comments. Or if you want to advertise,
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please do get in touch via walkingpost .com or
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you can just email me at jim at walkingpost .com
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Normally we would go through the headlines of
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the articles over at walkingpost .com in the
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past week, but as there weren't the usual number,
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I think we'll just skip it. But of course, please
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do head over to the website and check out the
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news. And so let's get to this week's interview.
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It's a conversation with Joe McGowan, Business
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Improvement District Manager for Dorking, a place
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that has a walking festival coming up in September.
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So let's find out some more. Hi, Joe. Thanks
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so much for being with us on the podcast. And
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perhaps you could tell us a bit about what you
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do and about dorking for those who haven't been
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there. I'm Jo, I'm the Business Improvement District
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Manager for Dorking, which is in Surrey, but
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specifically it's on the sort of the edge of
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the Surrey Hills, an area of outstanding natural
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beauty. So, yeah, I think when people think of
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Surrey, they possibly don't always think about
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the fact that it's got this lovely area, which,
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you know, encompasses Box Hill, Leaf Hill, you
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know, several other areas which are just... so
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picturesque and so beautiful and dorking is basically
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a bit of a gateway to that it's a sort of a historical
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market town and you are literally surrounded
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by countryside you can stand in the middle of
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the high street and turn 360 and you will just
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see hills countryside and that filters through
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into the town it's a beautiful town it's got
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a lot of significant architecture there a lot
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of them are listed buildings it's a conservation
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area so it's a really beautiful place to spend
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time both in the town and the surrounding countryside
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as well does that surprise people it does to
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some degree i mean i've lived in and around surrey
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for all of my life really but my husband's from
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yorkshire and we actually got married in dorking
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long before i had the job there we got married
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at the burford bridge hotel which is at the foot
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of box hill and a lot of his family obviously
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were from yorkshire and they came down and they
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just kept saying we did not realise that Surrey
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was so beautiful and that it had all this landscape
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around it. So they were quite taken by it. So
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actually, I think that was quite high praise
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from them as well. So I think it can be surprising.
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And I think also because we're so close to London,
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that can be a surprise that it is so full of
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countryside and beautiful landscapes. But people
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often think, oh, I'll go to London, but that's
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all I need to do. But actually just going half
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an hour out. and you're in a totally different
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landscape and exploring lots of different things
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as well. Could you tell me a little bit about
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the walking festival and some of the history?
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Yeah, so this is the second... Second year that
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we've done it. So last year was our inaugural
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festival. I've only been in this role coming
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up to two months. It'll be two months in September
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that I've done this job. And it was a conversation
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with a lady called Chris Howard, who is the chair
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of Visit Surrey, the tourism organisation for
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Surrey, but also is involved with the Surrey
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Hills Society as well. And she had a chat. She
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said, are you aware that there was almost a dorking
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walking festival? They were sort of planning
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to do it in 2020. And of course, we all know
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what happened then. So I think all the plans
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had been laid down. But then, obviously, because
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of COVID, it never happened. And then, you know,
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various things, change of personnel and just
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life moving on. It didn't happen. And from what
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I've described to you, I thought it was a bit
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criminal that there wasn't a walking festival
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in Dorking because there are. so many opportunities
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to just get out and explore nature there but
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one of the other things because obviously I'm
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very focused on the town centre so the town centre
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is a business improvement district for people
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that may not know what that is that is a designated
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area where businesses have come together and
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decided that they want a voice as one and to
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be able to do a bit more than what they might
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be able to do individually. So they have to vote
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for it every five years because they pay a levy
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to fund the activity. And we do lots of different
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things. So we do do events and campaigns like
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the walking festival and other seasonal events
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like Christmas. We also do a lot of marketing
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around the town. We do a lot of advocacy for
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the businesses with sort of external organisations.
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And we do things around public realm. We've had
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new plants put in. We've just had a grant to
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renovate a garden area in the town as well. But
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our focus is very much on getting people to come
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in and visit our town. So we've devised this
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festival so that all of the walks start. finish
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or pass through the town centre in some way because
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we want to show that it's actually really easy
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to get out and experience nature and experience
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the beautiful countryside from the town centre
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so if you've got an hour at lunch you can actually
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from the town centre get out in some lovely peaceful
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countryside very quickly if you've got longer
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you can explore further But it's also just showing
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people that there's easy ways to connect with
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nature a bit more and enjoy the landscape around
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you. So that's how it sort of came about. Could
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you give me some details on when it is, how long
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it is, some of the walks? Yes, the actual walking
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week itself is running from the 19th of September
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for nine days, basically. It encompasses two
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weekends and then the week in between. And it's
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part of a larger festival that we're running
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called the Good Living Festival. So the Good
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Living Festival is encompassing not just the
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walking week, but we've got a food and drink
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day where we've got a show kitchen and a food
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and drink market. We've got various creative
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well -being and cultural activities going on.
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It's National Heritage Week the week before.
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So there's quite a few events going on with that
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that we're sort of including in this. But the
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walking week is nine days of lots of different
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walks across the town. So we've got over 25 walks.
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and a number of different organisations running
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them. We have the Mole Valley Ramblers. So Dorking
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is part of a district called Mole Valley. There's
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the River Mole that runs through it. So the Mole
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Valley Ramblers are running five hikes during
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the week. The Surrey Hill Society are running
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a walk. The Museum are also doing a couple of
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heritage walks, more around the history of the
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town as well. We have a couple of forest bathing
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tasting sessions as part of it. We have a quiz
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walk. We have a fantastic quiz master in Dorking
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called Simon Edmonds, who does so much for the
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community, organises lots of charity events and
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is involved with lots of charities. And he is
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the quiz master extraordinaire. And he puts together
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a quiz. People meet in the pub, they go off,
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they solve the clues and then they end up back
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at the pub for a well -deserved pint at the end
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of it. The camera club are organising a photography
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walk so it's going around and pointing out things
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that might be of interest and there's a lot of
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stuff when you look up in the town that you might
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not notice when you're just going from appointment
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to appointment in our busy lives and stuff. We
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have the South East Community Rail Partnership
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are doing, we have three stations in Dorking,
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one at one end of town and the other two at the
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other end of town. So they do a walk between
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them and go through a bit of the history of the
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railway in the area as well. Last year, they
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did that as part of the Railway 200 thing, but
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it was really popular. So they're running it
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again. Hello Dorking, which is the organisation
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I represent, along with the Mall Valley Chamber
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of Commerce, we're doing a networking event as
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well, which is designed for business owners.
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to get out and instead of networking, we do a
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walk at the same time. So it's a lovely way to
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sort of catch up. We've also got a family walk
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that is being organised by the nursery. That's
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going to be a little picture trail that they're
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going to put on there. There is also a ladies
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only
walk of an evening, a hike with a group
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called Girls Alive that are very much about getting
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women fit and all the benefits of that. Another
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slightly quirky off -topic one is our local theatre
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dorking halls that also manage an arts centre
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called Pitbrook House are doing two film screenings
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during the week. One is a walk in the wood and
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the other is a pilgrim's way. So they do those
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as a sort of a slightly different way, but a
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way of them getting involved. And what we try
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and encourage is people to get involved in whatever
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way they can. couple of walks that are very accessible.
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The Surrey Coalition for Disabled People are
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running a walk that is accessible with anybody
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on wheels basically. So there is really, and
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I know this is overused this phrase, there is
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something for everyone on this walking week.
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We're very keen that everybody feels there is
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some way they can access. There's easy walks,
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there's a harder walk that is a leatherhead to
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dorking walk which I think is about 10 miles.
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maybe wrong on that maybe longer than that but
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it's you know that's a hefty walk but there are
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ones that are just gentle strolls as well and
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everything in between so um lots to explore do
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people have to book for these or is it just turn
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up it does vary some do need you to book others
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you can just turn up the majority of the walks
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are free a couple of them are just a small charge
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for the walk but it's all on our website so we
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have a dedicated section to the walking week
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on hallowedalking .com and there's a banner on
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our home page you just click through then you'll
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find all of the walks and it says on there it
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gives you the level of the walk it tells you
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the meeting point and whether you need to book
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or not and then you know how to book if you if
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you do need to book on so yeah is there a limit
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to the number of people on any of them some of
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them there are that tends to be the ones where
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they've asked people to book but most of them
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you know it's a decent number on a lot of them
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and i know the quiz walk i think had about 50
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people take part last year so Yeah, it really
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does vary. So it's best to look at the website
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and then see what it is. And, you know, if it
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is nearly booking, you know, get booked in early
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so that you don't miss out. But yeah, there's
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such a variety on there that you really will
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find something that will suit your needs on there
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as well. What about dogs? Are they welcome on
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some or all? Yeah, and a lot of them they are.
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And again, on the on the web page, there is a
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dogs allowed bit and it will say yes or no. But
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actually, the majority of the walks do accept
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dogs on them. So, yeah, you can bring your pooch
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along. And obviously, there are a lot of dog
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owners. It's a great place to own a dog because
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you can be out in the countryside very quickly.
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And actually, Dorking has its own paw wash as
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well. But it is a little area where you can pop
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your dog in and clean them up before you go home
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and stuff. So, yeah, well catered. for dogs in
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Dorking. Do you anticipate getting people from
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the home counties or is it more local? Yeah,
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it was a mix. of both last year i mean i think
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with all of these things you're always going
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to have more of your locals taking part but we
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did have people that were coming from north london
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and further afield to join in so i think the
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great thing about dorking and with any of these
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walks if you come and do say a walk in the morning
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or you're doing one later in the day there are
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plenty of independent businesses to explore in
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dorking as well there's we've got a very high
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proportion of independent shops which is quite
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unusual and they're always worth a moot We have
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a historic antiques quarter in Dorking as well.
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And again, you can lose hours exploring those
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shops and come away with some treasures. We have
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a number of pubs. We're also running a grape
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and grain trail during the two weeks. So you
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can collect stamps to be entered into a prize
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draw for some local food and drink campers and
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lovely cafes and restaurants as well. So you
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can make a day of it or even a few days, you
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know, if you're into your walking and you think,
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well, actually, there's a few walks there. We
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have the lovely Whitehorse Hotel right in the
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centre of the town, which is a great place to
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stay as well. So you could make this into a lovely
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short break. in autumn once the schools have
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gone back and really enjoy the surroundings of
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dorking and the surrey hills and of course it's
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very easy to get to you've got three train stations
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as you mentioned There's a good line that goes
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in and out from London, so that's very easy.
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But we're also on the Reading to Gatwick line
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as well, which comes through Guildford and Redhill
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as well. So it is quite easy to get here by public
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transport. As I say, there's three stations to
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choose from. But also, you know, we're very close
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to the M25, the A25 and the A24, sort of cross
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-section at Dorking as well. So it is very accessible
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from all over the South East and beyond. What
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are some of your favourite? places in the area
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to go walking well obviously box hill is the
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famous one and you can't beat the views up there
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but actually one of the networking we've done
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two networking events so far and both of those
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went sort of to areas that are perhaps not as
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well known we went across the stepping stones
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which are at the bottom of box hill at one of
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them and and actually that was a lovely walk
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and again lots of people on the walk who live
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and work in the area It's always great when you
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hear people say, well, I never knew this was
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here. And now I do. I'll come back and explore.
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So, you know, that is always great. you know
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box hill is obviously a draw and is obviously
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spectacular but actually there's lots of other
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smaller areas and we do have a park right in
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the center of town called meadow bank which is
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beautiful it's just a new bandstand put in so
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that's a really lovely haven and there's also
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just an area just behind the high street which
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is a residential area and it's called cotman
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dean which is just a lovely green space and if
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you go up there You can get the views across
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the Surrey Hills, but also Dorking has a famous
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church, St Martin's Church, which has an extremely
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tall spire and you get a fantastic view of there.
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So it's a great place to take a picnic up as
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well and just have a wander up there as well.
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So, yeah, lots of hidden gems and also some of
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the more famous spots as well. What was the reason
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for doing the festival in September? Because
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I know a lot of them are in the spring. I think
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it was more timing last year in that we wanted
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to do something last year, but because I was
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new in role, it was a little bit too early to
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get it done for the spring. But also I think
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it's about spreading things out quite often.
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If everything is at the same time, then nobody
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really benefits. It just sort of reduces who's
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taking part. And actually that time of year is
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often a lovely time to get out and explore. It's
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a little bit. Cooler. I mean, in the southeast
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at the moment, we're experiencing an unbelievable
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summer of hot temperatures. And it's probably
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been like this since early May. Heat wave after
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heat wave. So, you know, September can be a little
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bit cooler. You're starting just to see those
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changes in the seasons. You know, it's lovely
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to be able to witness that as well. Normally,
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it's a pretty decent month for
weather. Schools
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have gone back. It may be a bit quieter. So,
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yeah, we feel it works quite well at that time
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of the year and complements perhaps the other
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offerings that are happening earlier in the year
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in the area as well. There are so many in the
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spring that you're competing against 10 different
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festivals every weekend. Yeah, I mean, I think
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whatever time of the year, I mean, obviously
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in the UK, well, we're never guaranteed the weather,
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but we stand a better chance in sort of like
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May to September of getting some decent days.
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But, yeah, you know, you're always going to find
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that there's something else going on. And that's
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another great thing, I think, about Surrey is
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there is always stuff going on. And we do a weekly
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what's on each weekend for dorking. And it always
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amazes me just how much is going on in your local
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areas. So it's always what I say to people is
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always just have a look because you'll be you'll
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be surprised exactly what goes on locally and
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seek these things out and support them, because
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that's what keeps our areas vibrant and people
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still wanting to come to them. All right. Is
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there anything else that you wanted to mention
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that we hadn't talked about? Just that we're
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really looking forward to the walking week again.
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It was really well received last year. We're
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really pleased to be running it again. And we're
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really pleased that it's part of something a
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bit bigger. So, you know, when you come for the
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walks, you'll find that there's other stuff going
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on. We've got over the two weeks of the Good
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Living Festival, there's over 75 events and offers
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taking place in the town. So if you come to do
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a walk. do have a little look you might be able
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to find that there's a food and drink offer for
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you afterwards or you can go and visit the pubs
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on the grape and grain trail but you know it
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is the sort of thing that you can come just for
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one event or you could come and stay for several
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days and take part in a lot of things and um
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yeah i think it just highlights exactly what
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a lovely area is and how much is going on there
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as well I have actually been to Dorking. I worked
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in Crawley for a few years after returning to
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the UK, and one of my colleagues there was from
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Dorking, and she kept telling me that I had to
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walk Box Hill, and so eventually I did. Wow,
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it's a beautiful walk and stunning views from
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the top, and it's about an hour more or less
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from London, Victoria, and I guess that depends
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on whether you get a train that stops everywhere
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or not. But Dorking and that part of Surrey is
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definitely beautiful. I had no idea before I
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went there. I did know it from a 10cc song though,
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from Rochdale to Ocho Rios. And if you didn't
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know, Ocho Rios is in Jamaica. Not a bad song
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either. Anyway, I'm digressing. I'm sure the
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walking festival in Dorking will be another big
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success, as it was last year. And so that's it
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