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early correct yeah testing reviewers all the yeah you copy whatever team they have a specific name for that or they used to I forget what they called it but um 03:34.713 --> 03:40.255 [UNKNOWN]: You know, you would have blended right in, I don't know, but no, you, you, you, you, you, you unplugged that ethernet cord in the wall. 03:40.275 --> 03:53.159 [UNKNOWN]: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, 03:54.140 --> 03:54.520 [UNKNOWN]: Oh no! 03:55.381 --> 03:55.781 [UNKNOWN]: They know! 03:58.604 --> 03:59.905 [UNKNOWN]: And I know that story's true. 04:00.225 --> 04:01.746 [UNKNOWN]: Is that how you... Of course it's true. 04:01.786 --> 04:02.307 [UNKNOWN]: Is that not... 04:02.367 --> 04:05.109 [UNKNOWN]: Does that not encapsulate me in the best way possible? 04:05.730 --> 04:06.330 [UNKNOWN]: 100%. 04:08.272 --> 04:08.852 [UNKNOWN]: 100%. 04:08.952 --> 04:12.015 [UNKNOWN]: Like taking the risk enough to go to like Tony to give him 20 extra bucks. 04:12.055 --> 04:14.137 [UNKNOWN]: That didn't feel dangerous to me, but signing online. 04:14.157 --> 04:19.061 [UNKNOWN]: I think the EA cops know that I was playing at 11 hours early. 04:19.161 --> 04:19.862 [UNKNOWN]: That scared me. 04:20.582 --> 04:20.842 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 04:22.852 --> 04:23.352 [UNKNOWN]: terrified. 04:24.213 --> 04:27.054 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, some guy, the joke kips as I worked at games up in the mid 2000s. 04:27.074 --> 04:29.396 [UNKNOWN]: The men in that released were brutal, like five people. 04:29.416 --> 04:33.258 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because we would do, like, halo, and there'd be like a thousand people, you know what I mean? 04:33.298 --> 04:34.539 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'd be like, we just do men. 04:34.599 --> 04:37.841 [UNKNOWN]: And they're like, eh, I don't know if anybody's gonna get up, no, no, no, people come. 04:37.861 --> 04:38.661 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of people play men. 04:38.681 --> 04:39.662 [UNKNOWN]: And then they'll never even show up. 04:39.842 --> 04:44.685 [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, one of the best selling video games of all time, but sports fans are a little more chill. 04:44.845 --> 04:50.188 [UNKNOWN]: They're not gonna wait till, you know, midnight release, they don't come in the morning in a line. 04:50.468 --> 04:55.569 [UNKNOWN]: just get going the next day in the morning when the store opens up you know so yeah it's it's it's a weird 04:57.895 --> 04:58.716 [UNKNOWN]: the dynamic there. 04:58.736 --> 05:03.339 [UNKNOWN]: I like like new systems and things, you know, people will wait, you know, the midnight releases for that. 05:03.359 --> 05:05.340 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, man, it was never been a big midnight release. 05:05.380 --> 05:06.080 [UNKNOWN]: No, they tried. 05:06.341 --> 05:12.445 [UNKNOWN]: I know I've replaced tried to do a midnight release of a, of man, but yeah, didn't, uh, didn't ever take all that well. 05:12.605 --> 05:16.868 [UNKNOWN]: But this was, this was in the, uh, the end of the peak days when I was doing the midnight release. 05:16.888 --> 05:20.570 [UNKNOWN]: This is like, you know, you and I think agree, you know, 2003 to, uh, 05:22.433 --> 05:25.255 [UNKNOWN]: Five is probably my, I don't know, would you agree with that? 05:25.275 --> 05:36.721 [UNKNOWN]: I think those first three games that were online on PS2, which would have been O3, through O5 was the peak of our era of man gaming. 05:38.282 --> 05:41.004 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, now it's just we've talked about this a million times. 05:41.104 --> 05:42.705 [UNKNOWN]: It's just a completely different animal now. 05:43.488 --> 05:45.329 [UNKNOWN]: because everybody plays Madden Ultimate Team. 05:45.369 --> 05:49.771 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, get out of here with that stupid cards and nobody ever finishes a game. 05:49.811 --> 05:51.952 [UNKNOWN]: Down two touchdowns, let me just concede the feet. 05:52.572 --> 05:55.673 [UNKNOWN]: It's just a completely different, we had honor back then. 05:56.394 --> 05:59.115 [UNKNOWN]: If Rich Crayton, Joel Anza, we're gonna play a game of Madden. 05:59.915 --> 06:04.597 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, if somebody was up 49, the 7 and the 3rd quarter, we were finishing that fucking game. 06:04.677 --> 06:05.158 [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely. 06:05.198 --> 06:06.118 [UNKNOWN]: We were finishing that fucking game. 06:06.138 --> 06:06.778 [UNKNOWN]: You're taking your lungs. 06:06.798 --> 06:07.879 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're taking your fucking lungs. 06:08.307 --> 06:17.741 [UNKNOWN]: And if one of us didn't, you'd be ostracized and you would be banished from the Madden Online community for doing so, you know, like word would get around. 06:18.221 --> 06:23.829 [UNKNOWN]: Like, if I, you know, wiggled my chord in fucking God added, our rich would go back to the forums and say, hey, 06:24.510 --> 06:33.432 [UNKNOWN]: This asshole wiggled the court order to bring that to TV, wiggled the court, yeah, yeah, we can't, you know, and then word would get out and then nobody would play you anymore back. 06:33.492 --> 06:34.673 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're a fucking asshole. 06:34.693 --> 06:35.353 [UNKNOWN]: You're a loser. 06:35.533 --> 06:36.353 [UNKNOWN]: Like you can't do that. 06:36.373 --> 06:37.774 [UNKNOWN]: She got to finish the fucking game. 06:38.434 --> 06:41.034 [UNKNOWN]: I want to be able to look at my stats at the end of it again. 06:41.195 --> 06:42.475 [UNKNOWN]: People today don't play like that. 06:42.835 --> 06:47.116 [UNKNOWN]: They play their stupid madinal demit team and they call it a they they they pay to win. 06:47.136 --> 06:49.757 [UNKNOWN]: They buy their their cards and everybody has the same

team. 06:50.497 --> 07:05.990 [UNKNOWN]: Well, if a week after the game comes out, everybody has their playing a mirror image of this because they all have the best player in every position because they all buy the cards and then they just, they fucking, they spam fucking cheese moves on each other until somebody goes up to scores and then they quit. 07:06.611 --> 07:07.592 [UNKNOWN]: How is that fun? 07:07.972 --> 07:08.572 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 07:08.612 --> 07:09.633 [UNKNOWN]: What's the fun in that? 07:10.034 --> 07:10.974 [UNKNOWN]: Where is the fun in that? 07:19.282 --> 07:33.862 [UNKNOWN]: was much more fun and the honor of and the rules like people we always talked about this with wrestling wrestling is better when there are rules and you follow those rules and you stick to those rules like yeah if it was you know fourth and eleven in your own territory and you went for it I'm right that's okay. 07:34.322 --> 07:39.387 [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna trouble like you're gonna get tattled on like that's not that's not a one- That's not simple. 07:39.407 --> 07:40.728 [UNKNOWN]: No, that's not simple. 07:40.748 --> 07:42.470 [UNKNOWN]: We're not a simple buddy. 07:42.790 --> 07:45.693 [UNKNOWN]: Like you ran the same run three and a time's in a row. 07:45.733 --> 07:46.434 [UNKNOWN]: I'm right there. 07:46.474 --> 07:47.895 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no. 07:47.915 --> 07:48.576 [UNKNOWN]: That's not the same. 07:48.596 --> 07:50.017 [UNKNOWN]: He's over and over and that's not simple. 07:50.117 --> 07:52.318 [UNKNOWN]: Outside outside zone three times in a row. 07:52.338 --> 07:53.339 [UNKNOWN]: Hell no not to me. 07:53.359 --> 07:53.599 [UNKNOWN]: Come on. 07:53.619 --> 08:07.428 [UNKNOWN]: You're exploiting a glitch do something else, but right Yeah, wait hold on you're setting up nano blitzes get the fuck out of here go to the freestyle room This is the sim ball room you could play freestyle if you want but those are different guys, you know, I did I didn't bother with that 08:08.188 --> 08:08.989 [UNKNOWN]: It's simple. 08:09.009 --> 08:10.070 [UNKNOWN]: We had our own rules. 08:10.110 --> 08:16.815 [UNKNOWN]: There's no fourth down goes if it's longer than like whatever it was longer than fourth and three until the fourth quarter. 08:17.355 --> 08:18.036 [UNKNOWN]: We had honor. 08:18.696 --> 08:21.318 [UNKNOWN]: There's no, you can't onsite kick every time you score. 08:21.338 --> 08:21.659 [UNKNOWN]: What is this? 08:21.679 --> 08:23.340 [UNKNOWN]: You can get the fuck out of it. 08:23.360 --> 08:25.862 [UNKNOWN]: You'd be banished from the community. 08:26.523 --> 08:28.324 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was the way to go, man. 08:28.484 --> 08:30.726 [UNKNOWN]: I will say I'll let it fly a little bit in college for all these days. 08:30.766 --> 08:33.508 [UNKNOWN]: I'm playing the computers who fucking cares, but I go on. 08:33.548 --> 08:34.049 [UNKNOWN]: I go for it. 08:34.109 --> 08:35.009 [UNKNOWN]: I'm most forced out. 08:35.029 --> 08:36.851 [UNKNOWN]: If you're playing this computer, it doesn't matter. 08:36.911 --> 08:38.252 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's no honor. 08:38.292 --> 08:39.993 [UNKNOWN]: There's no honor against the computer. 08:40.013 --> 08:41.415 [UNKNOWN]: This is human competition. 08:41.435 --> 08:42.155 [UNKNOWN]: Two kids. 08:42.175 --> 08:44.137 [UNKNOWN]: By the way, do your kids say playing the computer? 08:44.177 --> 08:49.241 [UNKNOWN]: Like, well, if your, if your, the boy was playing against the game, what he call it? 08:49.741 --> 08:52.504 [UNKNOWN]: The girl does the most adorable thing. 08:52.684 --> 08:53.925 [UNKNOWN]: She calls it the robot. 08:54.225 --> 09:18.299 [UNKNOWN]: the rope and I like that okay she she'll be playing me and like her receiver will drop a ball and I'll make fun of her and she'll go wasn't me it was the robot that's cute you know it is very cute okay we record the computer but i don't know if the next we call the call the computer well the boy calls it the computer but she she just get she i think she heard us call it the computer and it's mixed up in her head so she says the robot 09:19.143 --> 09:23.487 [UNKNOWN]: And I don't correct her because I want her to keep saying that as long as because the door will. 09:23.507 --> 09:23.667 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 09:24.188 --> 09:24.328 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 09:24.548 --> 09:26.911 [UNKNOWN]: Like when she was little, she didn't say yellow. 09:27.231 --> 09:28.072 [UNKNOWN]: She called it Lelo. 09:29.692 --> 09:31.373 [UNKNOWN]: And we wouldn't, we didn't correct her. 09:31.473 --> 09:35.776 [UNKNOWN]: We're like, just let her get this wrong until she goes to school and school, though, but it's cute right now. 09:35.936 --> 09:40.800 [UNKNOWN]: So let her call the, the, the, the color yellow, Lella because we, you know, it's adorable. 09:41.120 --> 09:43.642 [UNKNOWN]: It's the same thing like I like that she calls it the robot. 09:44.182 --> 09:49.586 [UNKNOWN]: And you could see where she would mix that up because she heard it called the computer and she's not remembering right. 09:49.626 --> 09:51.087 [UNKNOWN]: So she calls it playing the robot. 09:51.127 --> 09:51.787 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's fair. 09:52.408 --> 09:52.648 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 09:55.243 --> 09:57.104 [UNKNOWN]: I still don't give that given to them at all. 09:57.564 --> 10:04.749 [UNKNOWN]: I will, if I play them, and if I can smash them 56 to nothing, I will, and I don't let them quit. 10:05.169 --> 10:06.110 [UNKNOWN]: Like I've been still that. 10:06.130 --> 10:06.770 [UNKNOWN]: Like you're not good. 10:06.790 --> 10:07.150 [UNKNOWN]: You're not what? 10:07.190 --> 10:08.251 [UNKNOWN]: Where are you going? 10:08.811 --> 10:10.453 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, no, no, you're not walking away. 10:10.773 --> 10:14.675 [UNKNOWN]: There's 48 seconds left in the third quarter, and we are playing this out. 10:14.875 --> 10:18.738 [UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what you need to do if you need to get your backup quarter back in there,

10:18.998 --> 10:21.900 [UNKNOWN]: Learn something, try some new plays, figure out something for next time. 10:21.920 --> 10:23.942 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is a learning experience right now And he's fine. 10:23.982 --> 10:31.087 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't sit down here to waste 28 minutes of my life for you to quit before the games over We're finishing this fucking game. 10:31.107 --> 10:32.788 [UNKNOWN]: I like it now now you listen. 10:32.809 --> 10:33.689 [UNKNOWN]: I might run the ball. 10:34.009 --> 10:36.051 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I might run that clock It'll kill me. 10:36.391 --> 10:38.453 [UNKNOWN]: Give me Neil every so often would 10:39.389 --> 10:45.775 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to run that rock and we're going to turn some clock here because I'm not out here to get my little guys destroyed and a meaningless contest. 10:45.816 --> 10:47.877 [UNKNOWN]: But you know, you're finishing. 10:48.258 --> 10:48.898 [UNKNOWN]: You're finishing. 10:48.979 --> 10:49.559 [UNKNOWN]: So they know now. 10:50.060 --> 10:51.961 [UNKNOWN]: They finish now. 10:52.001 --> 10:53.623 [UNKNOWN]: There's honor around here when it comes to that. 10:53.843 --> 10:54.404 [UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that. 10:54.424 --> 10:58.327 [UNKNOWN]: Does the TLB, does she find any, like, does she find that cruel or anything? 10:58.347 --> 11:00.229 [UNKNOWN]: Because I would like to do the same thing with the baby. 11:00.269 --> 11:01.631 [UNKNOWN]: It's just the, if we do play video games. 11:02.211 --> 11:05.134 [UNKNOWN]: And eventually I hope one day I'll be a very proud parent of one day. 11:05.215 --> 11:05.675 [UNKNOWN]: He beats me. 11:05.715 --> 11:07.057 [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean if we're playing it? 11:07.097 --> 11:09.299 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know what the hell the state is going to be. 11:09.359 --> 11:09.780 [UNKNOWN]: I lost. 11:10.200 --> 11:10.621 [UNKNOWN]: I'm lost. 11:11.322 --> 11:11.702 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 11:11.742 --> 11:19.050 [UNKNOWN]: Like in a in 25, what I would do is I would use like a horrible team and I would tell them like use Alabama. 11:19.090 --> 11:19.231 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 11:19.251 --> 11:21.073 [UNKNOWN]: So you're Troy in the Alabama or whatever. 11:21.865 --> 11:24.787 [UNKNOWN]: And he, it got to a point where the games were really good. 11:24.827 --> 11:27.830 [UNKNOWN]: Like he, you know, like because he got pretty okay at the game. 11:28.370 --> 11:29.391 [UNKNOWN]: The girl beat me once too. 11:29.451 --> 11:29.931 [UNKNOWN]: She beat me out. 11:29.951 --> 11:30.712 [UNKNOWN]: I forget what I was using. 11:30.752 --> 11:32.233 [UNKNOWN]: But she likes to use Georgia. 11:32.273 --> 11:33.394 [UNKNOWN]: She likes the Bulldog gimmick. 11:33.474 --> 11:34.335 [UNKNOWN]: The mascot. 11:34.935 --> 11:35.936 [UNKNOWN]: She smashed me one game. 11:35.976 --> 11:37.397 [UNKNOWN]: I think I posted the screenshots. 11:37.437 --> 11:37.837 [UNKNOWN]: Did nice. 11:37.977 --> 11:38.698 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I like that. 11:38.838 --> 11:39.258 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 11:39.318 --> 11:40.039 [UNKNOWN]: I do remember that now. 11:40.479 --> 11:41.140 [UNKNOWN]: Everything went wrong. 11:41.160 --> 11:42.941 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, in that game, the momentum takes over. 11:43.001 --> 11:48.345 [UNKNOWN]: So I thought I could pick and then my quarterback just got the little snowflake and it's over. 11:48.365 --> 11:50.887 [UNKNOWN]: When he's got that snowflake, it's really hard to get back. 11:51.743 --> 11:58.248 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so then, but every time they beat me, I'd go, all right, well, now I'm using a real team and sit down because we're playing the other night. 11:58.268 --> 11:58.628 [UNKNOWN]: Yep, yep, yep. 11:58.968 --> 12:00.609 [UNKNOWN]: I'd smash them the bits, yeah. 12:00.830 --> 12:03.051 [UNKNOWN]: But, but she's a really good sport. 12:03.091 --> 12:08.675 [UNKNOWN]: Like, she's a great, I love playing video games with the girl because she does, she just laughs and has fun. 12:08.735 --> 12:10.116 [UNKNOWN]: She doesn't care what the score is at all. 12:10.737 --> 12:11.958 [UNKNOWN]: He gets a little testy. 12:12.138 --> 12:14.620 [UNKNOWN]: He gets a little testy if I'm smashing him. 12:15.000 --> 12:19.143 [UNKNOWN]: Like, he doesn't, he doesn't rage, quit, or throw it a controller, or like, you can see it in him, yeah. 12:19.762 --> 12:28.532 [UNKNOWN]: I could see that it's bothering him when he throws another pick six and he's, you know, he, you know, you know, it'll start complaining. 12:28.552 --> 12:29.273 [UNKNOWN]: Like she doesn't care. 12:29.413 --> 12:32.837 [UNKNOWN]: She's just, she doesn't care what the final score is and she's, she's, she's a lot of fun. 12:33.277 --> 12:34.199 [UNKNOWN]: He gets a little testy. 12:34.839 --> 12:37.442 [UNKNOWN]: So there's, it's, it's so weird how. 12:38.303 --> 12:40.144 [UNKNOWN]: siblings could have completely different. 12:40.605 --> 12:44.667 [UNKNOWN]: The other thing like he has maniacally clean and neat his room is clean. 12:44.947 --> 12:47.749 [UNKNOWN]: He lays out his clothes the night before even in the summer. 12:48.209 --> 12:49.250 [UNKNOWN]: He makes his bed. 12:49.310 --> 12:51.451 [UNKNOWN]: His room is immaculate and tidy. 12:51.751 --> 12:52.872 [UNKNOWN]: She's a fucking slob. 12:53.312 --> 12:54.353 [UNKNOWN]: Like how does that happen? 12:54.473 --> 12:55.674 [UNKNOWN]: Like she has total slob. 12:56.054 --> 12:57.375 [UNKNOWN]: Like she can't leave a room. 12:57.495 --> 13:00.857 [UNKNOWN]: Like anytime she leaves a room, she leaves a trail of garbage behind. 13:00.937 --> 13:04.199 [UNKNOWN]: Whatever she was eating or drinking, whatever she was playing with. 13:04.239 --> 13:04.399 [UNKNOWN]: Like 13:04.779 --> 13:08.501 [UNKNOWN]: She doesn't clean up after herself, but you can't even see the floor in her room half the time. 13:08.801 --> 13:15.424 [UNKNOWN]: She's an absolute fucking slob, and he's like a neat freak, almost to where it might be a problem how clean he is. 13:15.464 -->

13:16.544 [UNKNOWN]: How does that happen? 13:16.584 --> 13:18.645 [UNKNOWN]: How are they end up so different? 13:18.825 --> 13:19.825 [UNKNOWN]: It's a very strange. 13:20.186 --> 13:22.987 [UNKNOWN]: When you have your next three or four, you will see it. 13:27.323 --> 13:28.404 [UNKNOWN]: That's it, tap it out. 13:28.424 --> 13:30.264 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm tapin' I'm tapin' yeah, I think. 13:30.285 --> 13:31.525 [UNKNOWN]: Tapin' out out out out. 13:31.565 --> 13:34.166 [UNKNOWN]: This one's a blessing, so we're gonna call it a day after one, I think. 13:34.387 --> 13:35.487 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay, all right. 13:35.727 --> 13:36.628 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're happy. 13:36.648 --> 13:37.188 [UNKNOWN]: More than happy. 13:37.608 --> 13:40.570 [UNKNOWN]: And I don't understand how people have multiple children to be honest. 13:41.563 --> 13:46.525 [UNKNOWN]: Chasing this fuck around, I cannot imagine what happened to that bad bad bad with one. 13:46.805 --> 13:49.206 [UNKNOWN]: It would be much worse if I was chasing this guy around. 13:49.226 --> 13:52.007 [UNKNOWN]: And then another one was messing around. 13:52.268 --> 13:54.208 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, these two were babies at the same time. 13:54.228 --> 13:55.069 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's rough. 13:55.729 --> 13:57.630 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've got a lot of them on some part or something. 13:57.650 --> 13:58.890 [UNKNOWN]: They're like babies at the same. 13:58.910 --> 14:00.551 [UNKNOWN]: They're both shit and diapers at the same. 14:00.571 --> 14:01.231 [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't that bad. 14:01.972 --> 14:03.092 [UNKNOWN]: You think it's going to be bad. 14:03.112 --> 14:04.493 [UNKNOWN]: Then when you do it, it's not that bad. 14:05.113 --> 14:06.694 [UNKNOWN]: Like when you get in there, it's not that bad. 14:07.557 --> 14:08.778 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but nothing bothers me. 14:08.958 --> 14:09.978 [UNKNOWN]: Nothing bothers you, though. 14:09.998 --> 14:10.819 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:10.859 --> 14:10.999 [UNKNOWN]: Good. 14:11.019 --> 14:11.619 [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm fine. 14:11.639 --> 14:12.380 [UNKNOWN]: Everything's been fine. 14:12.420 --> 14:14.521 [UNKNOWN]: Everything's been good with one. 14:14.581 --> 14:17.382 [UNKNOWN]: I just, I wonder if possible. 14:17.402 --> 14:18.183 [UNKNOWN]: No, I'll see you again. 14:18.203 --> 14:19.444 [UNKNOWN]: It's good to get out. 14:19.464 --> 14:20.304 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's good to be out. 14:20.384 --> 14:21.485 [UNKNOWN]: It's good outnumbered that, I think. 14:21.765 --> 14:23.126 [UNKNOWN]: It is, but you could have like three. 14:23.226 --> 14:23.966 [UNKNOWN]: Trust me, be fine. 14:24.506 --> 14:25.267 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want three kids. 14:25.567 --> 14:26.828 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I can't believe you did. 14:26.888 --> 14:28.348 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll give more blessings. 14:28.769 --> 14:31.470 [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, be fine, be fine. 14:31.690 --> 14:32.571 [UNKNOWN]: I'll, I'll do some things. 14:32.791 --> 14:34.452 [UNKNOWN]: It's rather avoid having another blessing. 14:34.512 --> 14:35.332 [UNKNOWN]: No more blessing. 14:38.822 --> 14:41.443 [UNKNOWN]: Like I'll see a doctor to make sure that there are no more blessings. 14:41.703 --> 14:42.603 [UNKNOWN]: We're learning a lot here. 14:42.663 --> 14:49.106 [UNKNOWN]: We're learning a lot here today My doing not invasive surgery to prevent future blessings. 14:49.366 --> 14:50.266 [UNKNOWN]: No more storage. 14:50.286 --> 15:01.490 [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna be on the roof shooting them down Stork out here Fuck off stork That's a dated thing like nobody like the stork 15:01.930 --> 15:07.751 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there was somebody on my block who did it like last year and I was like god damn look at the fuck And then I was like should we do the stalk? 15:08.051 --> 15:16.073 [UNKNOWN]: It's like no, I haven't seen one of those at 11 years This one person did it and I'm thinking out man should we do the story and I'm like nobody wants the story like who cares? 15:16.313 --> 15:27.975 [UNKNOWN]: And nobody even asked us nobody even said anything about it like our parents didn't say nobody said anything about the story like it wasn't There was a thing that everybody did and then one day everybody stopped doing it and now nobody will ever do it again the story 15:29.053 --> 15:30.295 [UNKNOWN]: that the fruit wouldn't store. 15:30.315 --> 15:33.059 [UNKNOWN]: What do you purchase a wooden store to put on your front lawn? 15:33.700 --> 15:41.712 [UNKNOWN]: I guarantee there's people listening who have no idea what the store even means in relation to a baby because it just kind of like went away as a thing people say. 15:43.014 --> 15:44.737 [UNKNOWN]: Like they used to be how you would explain away 15:46.083 --> 15:48.284 [UNKNOWN]: the creation of a child to another child. 15:49.004 --> 15:51.484 [UNKNOWN]: When you didn't want to explain fucking yet, you know what I mean? 15:51.524 --> 15:52.244 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, the story. 15:52.264 --> 15:53.245 [UNKNOWN]: It's a story. 15:53.285 --> 15:54.045 [UNKNOWN]: What do we do? 15:54.065 --> 15:55.665 [UNKNOWN]: I'd love to just decide. 15:55.685 --> 15:58.986 [UNKNOWN]: Because the baby fits inside the gullits of the story, isn't that how it works? 15:59.006 --> 15:59.986 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, why not a pelican? 16:01.607 --> 16:03.187 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess so. 16:03.207 --> 16:03.767 [UNKNOWN]: Pretty large. 16:05.168 --> 16:09.789 [UNKNOWN]: Why did Storks become the baby thing? 16:09.849 --> 16:10.169 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 16:10.189 --> 16:10.509 [UNKNOWN]: Let's see. 16:10.529 --> 16:12.909 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the fucking gullit. 16:17.156 --> 16:21.644 [UNKNOWN]: observed bird behavior, cultural symbolism, and folklore. 16:21.784 --> 16:23.728 [UNKNOWN]: Germanic and Norse traditions. 16:25.748 --> 16:37.034 [UNKNOWN]: Storke delivered the folklore held that Storke's would retrieve babies souls or even infants from water sources like marshes wells and caves What are we doing here? 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16:45.178 [UNKNOWN]: Like we're pulling the stalks are pulling babies out of the swamps with like like with Solomon Grundy like Yeah, I don't like that at all. 16:45.198 --> 16:54.383 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, over time the store became a gentle non-threatening symbol for their rival of a baby So it was apparently threatening before that because it would steal it from a freaking marsh and then bring it to your house, but 16:56.187 --> 17:05.406 [UNKNOWN]: I would, I'd rather tell my kid all about boning before I tell them that if this is too complicated to go to and then just be like, I don't know, I mean, they were wrestling and then you came, so that's fine. 17:06.961 --> 17:21.126 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like it's easier to explain the creation I feel like it's not that hard to explain the creation of a child to a child versus the Stork brought you like what the bird what bird right the story what's a stork? 17:21.746 --> 17:26.268 [UNKNOWN]: It's a big bird oh like this no not like that like a story like what's a story? 17:27.548 --> 17:29.789 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I don't know, that's why I'm using a stork. 17:29.829 --> 17:34.932 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, no, yeah, it's not like I could point to the skies and say, oh, yeah, like that. 17:34.952 --> 17:37.433 [UNKNOWN]: There, there's a stork in your life. 17:37.453 --> 17:40.314 [UNKNOWN]: Our storks even real, that's what those animals were. 17:40.334 --> 17:42.215 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, I question whether it's a real animal. 17:42.235 --> 17:44.076 [UNKNOWN]: I think they're real, they're definitely real animals. 17:44.116 --> 17:47.658 [UNKNOWN]: I just don't know if I've ever seen a stork in the wild. 17:47.698 --> 17:49.038 [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know if I've seen a stork in the zoo. 17:49.378 --> 17:51.980 [UNKNOWN]: I've never seen a stork in the zoo in the wild. 17:52.420 --> 17:55.781 [UNKNOWN]: But I'm not hanging around swamps that they live in, so they must hang around swamps, 17:57.782 --> 18:00.863 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're just dogs live in the United States. 18:01.424 --> 18:03.024 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe like Louisiana or some shit. 18:03.304 --> 18:03.785 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe. 18:04.045 --> 18:04.605 [UNKNOWN]: Let's see. 18:05.005 --> 18:08.487 [UNKNOWN]: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana. 18:08.507 --> 18:09.707 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got no time for any of those states. 18:09.747 --> 18:10.207 [UNKNOWN]: So why would I? 18:11.028 --> 18:14.549 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think, why would I tell my kid about a store can then not be able to ever. 18:14.569 --> 18:17.170 [UNKNOWN]: I think only when I've been to as Louisiana. 18:18.491 --> 18:20.992 [UNKNOWN]: There been a Florida or Georgia or now. 18:21.772 --> 18:22.753 [UNKNOWN]: I've been a South Carolina. 18:22.813 --> 18:23.553 [UNKNOWN]: I've been a Florida. 18:24.050 --> 18:25.191 [UNKNOWN]: Get married in South Carolina. 18:25.211 --> 18:25.451 [UNKNOWN]: I did. 18:25.651 --> 18:26.552 [UNKNOWN]:

I didn't married South Carolina. 18:26.572 --> 18:28.313 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so you do have time for those states. 18:28.353 --> 18:29.093 [UNKNOWN]: What are you even saying? 18:29.694 --> 18:30.154 [UNKNOWN]: I guess I do. 18:31.015 --> 18:33.896 [UNKNOWN]: Didn't you get married on in a swamp in Louisiana? 18:33.936 --> 18:34.717 [UNKNOWN]: No, in South Carolina. 18:34.737 --> 18:35.497 [UNKNOWN]: It was a beach. 18:35.618 --> 18:36.298 [UNKNOWN]: It was a beach. 18:36.398 --> 18:37.139 [UNKNOWN]: It was a beach. 18:37.859 --> 18:38.840 [UNKNOWN]: It was a swamp. 18:39.400 --> 18:40.981 [UNKNOWN]: The swamps of South Carolina. 18:44.650 --> 18:50.854 [UNKNOWN]: You got married in a mushy marshy Everyone just swatin away bugs the whole time. 18:50.895 --> 18:53.296 [UNKNOWN]: It's not very fun at all. 18:53.316 --> 18:58.560 [UNKNOWN]: It's stalks flying around with babies and they're gullett rights Fucking gators. 18:58.580 --> 18:59.741 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh, look out there's a gator. 18:59.781 --> 19:02.022 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no move over move over there gators though. 19:02.643 --> 19:07.026 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah Yeah, fucking stores all right 19:07.959 --> 19:32.085 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but like, there's definitely people that are listening right now that have the idea of driving around your neighborhood and they're being a giant wooden stork that says Thomas, you know, right, 11 22 87, you know, just on the front fucking front Ralph Williams and then the birthday to birth right, you know, we would the store haven't even purchased those. 19:33.092 --> 19:33.552 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 19:34.292 --> 19:36.893 [UNKNOWN]: You probably back then you probably can't craft them in your garage. 19:36.973 --> 19:42.555 [UNKNOWN]: I guess yeah, you just got the the wittler out there and start your sauce. 19:42.575 --> 19:43.375 [UNKNOWN]: That's good. 19:43.415 --> 19:49.837 [UNKNOWN]: I mean hell good for the fathers of that generation to get in there and saw one up. 19:49.857 --> 19:51.498 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know because you couldn't go to like your 19:52.303 --> 19:56.066 [UNKNOWN]: you're handy and you're local, I'm trying to think of the 80s like hardware stores. 19:56.947 --> 19:59.730 [UNKNOWN]: All right, did you have handy and he's by your, uh, is that a story? 19:59.750 --> 20:09.839 [UNKNOWN]: That's not a thing we had, uh, no, no, we had channel and rickle, our local channel and rickles, and uh, and it's true, it's true of value, a little is hardware. 20:09.859 --> 20:11.400 [UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, true value and he's hardware. 20:11.680 --> 20:13.301 [UNKNOWN]: it's hard we're still sticking it out. 20:13.581 --> 20:15.502 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, they're alive and they thrive. 20:15.542 --> 20:16.163 [UNKNOWN]: They thrive and yeah. 20:16.183 --> 20:17.143 [UNKNOWN]: They get down a little niche. 20:17.163 --> 20:18.364 [UNKNOWN]: They have like a smaller. 20:18.804 --> 20:20.505 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, they're the okay look. 20:20.525 --> 20:21.425 [UNKNOWN]:

You go to Home Depot. 20:21.485 --> 20:22.566 [UNKNOWN]: No one's going to fucking help you. 20:22.606 --> 20:27.109 [UNKNOWN]: And it's a thousand feet or $100,000 square foot. 20:27.149 --> 20:28.389 [UNKNOWN]: You have no idea where anything is. 20:28.749 --> 20:32.231 [UNKNOWN]: You walk into ace and some dope in a, and a vass is going to say, what are you looking for? 20:32.251 --> 20:33.012 [UNKNOWN]: And then you could say it. 20:34.017 --> 20:59.070 [UNKNOWN]: vaguely know where it's at and that that's that is that is there no what they're talking about you're not going to hire some 19 year old who has no idea about plumbing and then stick him in the plumbing section no you ace hardware you're going to get some guy that has been 58 years old for the last 30 years who knows everything about woodworking and he is going to know exactly what kind of saw you need and everything yeah that that's they've carved that little niche yeah you're not getting at it at lows 21:00.403 --> 21:03.444 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, they've stuck around, all these others, though. 21:03.625 --> 21:04.585 [UNKNOWN]: They're just, they're gone. 21:04.605 --> 21:05.145 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're gone. 21:05.645 --> 21:06.246 [UNKNOWN]: They're gone. 21:07.726 --> 21:07.947 [UNKNOWN]: So. 21:09.527 --> 21:12.429 [UNKNOWN]: Rest in peace, Andy, Andy, and what, you say rickles? 21:13.069 --> 21:13.429 [UNKNOWN]: Rickles? 21:13.589 --> 21:14.430 [UNKNOWN]: Rickles, that's a good one. 21:14.450 --> 21:14.970 [UNKNOWN]: I like rickles. 21:15.110 --> 21:16.551 [UNKNOWN]: I like rickles. 21:16.731 --> 21:17.391 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good one. 21:17.691 --> 21:19.332 [UNKNOWN]: I just true value, still hanging around. 21:19.632 --> 21:21.033 [UNKNOWN]: I, uh, a little bit. 21:21.053 --> 21:30.017 [UNKNOWN]: But I think they, they have like the same as hardware vibe where it's like, all right, like we can't keep it with lows and home people and inventory, but we can compete with them and expertise. 21:30.944 --> 21:31.204 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 21:32.305 --> 21:32.565 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 21:33.466 --> 21:35.848 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't seen a mom and pop hardware store. 21:35.908 --> 21:38.350 [UNKNOWN]: And now I do that's finally life at this point. 21:38.370 --> 21:43.974 [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's just, you know, Ole Mr. Sanders is going to sell you a bit drill. 21:44.114 --> 21:46.016 [UNKNOWN]: Like, that doesn't, that those are all gone. 21:46.316 --> 21:47.057 [UNKNOWN]: Like, forget that. 21:47.931 --> 21:49.672 [UNKNOWN]: those died when those guys died, I guess. 21:49.712 --> 21:50.513 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll for sure. 21:50.533 --> 21:53.055 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you walk in and then he's got like a pencil behind his ear. 21:53.215 --> 21:55.136 [UNKNOWN]: So he can write down measurements for years. 21:55.156 --> 21:56.237 [UNKNOWN]: Something like that's over. 21:56.257 --> 21:56.977 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly. 21:57.177 --> 21:57.437 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 21:58.138 --> 22:00.259 [UNKNOWN]: He's he's 77

years old. 22:00.299 --> 22:01.240 [UNKNOWN]: And that's the thing. 22:01.540 --> 22:02.521 [UNKNOWN]: He's 77. 22:02.921 --> 22:04.923 [UNKNOWN]: He has in the assistant who's like 97. 22:05.363 --> 22:07.885 [UNKNOWN]: Like he's got a guy that works with those even older than him. 22:08.605 --> 22:12.306 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, oh, Bill, show you where to find that and then you got to follow this guy. 22:12.366 --> 22:13.546 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, oh, so slow. 22:13.566 --> 22:14.287 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it can barely. 22:14.307 --> 22:15.587 [UNKNOWN]: Bill is so good. 22:15.667 --> 22:16.567 [UNKNOWN]: I get what I listen. 22:16.647 --> 22:17.027 [UNKNOWN]: It's 11. 22:17.047 --> 22:18.308 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I show you. 22:18.528 --> 22:19.228 [UNKNOWN]: I show you. 22:19.288 --> 22:19.788 [UNKNOWN]: And you're too. 22:19.828 --> 22:21.068 [UNKNOWN]: You can't tell Bill knows. 22:21.108 --> 22:22.309 [UNKNOWN]: You have to walk in his pace. 22:22.769 --> 22:23.189 [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean? 22:23.209 --> 22:23.909 [UNKNOWN]: I'll punch back. 22:23.929 --> 22:25.149 [UNKNOWN]: He's all on stuff. 22:25.229 --> 22:26.350 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's so old. 22:26.450 --> 22:28.270 [UNKNOWN]: Bill is so old every time. 22:28.330 --> 22:30.411 [UNKNOWN]: Like, he's incredibly old. 22:30.431 --> 22:31.491 [UNKNOWN]: But he knows what to do though. 22:31.811 --> 22:38.744 [UNKNOWN]: he knows what to do like he he wears those suspenders that cross in the back they cross on their back and then the suspenders in the front 22:39.606 --> 22:43.188 [UNKNOWN]: with a belt with like a weightlifting belt and one of those, like, uh, cops and belts. 22:43.208 --> 22:43.408 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 22:44.068 --> 22:44.789 [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely. 22:44.809 --> 22:51.752 [UNKNOWN]: Because when he lifts that bit that drill off the shelf that weighs eight pounds, he does him want to blow out what remains of his kidneys. 22:51.972 --> 22:54.734 [UNKNOWN]: So he's, you know, he wears the weight with their belt with his benders. 22:55.394 --> 22:56.595 [UNKNOWN]: And he's all hunched over. 22:56.695 --> 22:59.316 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, it's, uh, he's even older than the other guy. 22:59.336 --> 23:00.076 [UNKNOWN]: You can't believe it. 23:00.096 --> 23:01.677 [UNKNOWN]: You're like, what, what the fuck happened here? 23:01.897 --> 23:02.398 [UNKNOWN]: Like, what is this? 23:02.438 --> 23:05.459 [UNKNOWN]: What am I, what am I, what I walk onto the set of cocoon? 23:05.639 --> 23:05.959 [UNKNOWN]: Like, what 23:09.221 --> 23:09.541 [UNKNOWN]: You know. 23:13.385 --> 23:14.125 [UNKNOWN]: Look at all this. 23:15.246 --> 23:19.189 [UNKNOWN]: Fucking fucking uh, uh, Donna Meachy and Wilford Brimley. 23:19.490 --> 23:20.831 [UNKNOWN]: Fucking sell me a drill. 23:29.358 --> 23:29.999 [UNKNOWN]: It was better though. 23:30.319 --> 23:30.979 [UNKNOWN]: It was better though. 23:34.435 --> 23:40.820 [UNKNOWN]: What was that second movie all those old fucks made after oh batteries not included

remember that one with The series that included. 23:40.840 --> 23:43.682 [UNKNOWN]: Let me see pull that up put batteries not included. 23:43.702 --> 23:47.946 [UNKNOWN]: It was like basically the cocoon cast Just in a different story. 23:47.966 --> 23:52.489 [UNKNOWN]: It was the same group of actors who were like ten minutes I don't remember this at all. 23:52.910 --> 23:57.613 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was like about drones like like before drones were I think UFO is shit. 23:57.673 --> 23:58.294 [UNKNOWN]: Okay interesting 23:58.674 --> 24:10.700 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it was like the same people like Jessica Tandy and Hume Cronin and all that that old gang from from Cacoon, like cashin in on those last checks before, you know, they met the maker. 24:11.220 --> 24:13.541 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think they made what did that come out. 24:14.221 --> 24:14.721 [UNKNOWN]: That was 87. 24:14.942 --> 24:16.362 [UNKNOWN]: This is 1987. 24:16.402 --> 24:17.723 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what was cocoon? 24:17.743 --> 24:17.803 [UNKNOWN]: 85. 24:18.903 --> 24:20.524 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm okay. 24:20.664 --> 24:22.645 [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling I was direct results. 24:23.325 --> 24:24.386 [UNKNOWN]: Cocoon was a big hit. 24:25.408 --> 24:27.529 [UNKNOWN]: So somebody said, let me see if it's the same director. 24:27.569 --> 24:29.951 [UNKNOWN]: Kukun was a... Oh, Kukun's brought her out. 24:30.051 --> 24:30.391 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 24:30.411 --> 24:30.912 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 24:30.932 --> 24:32.293 [UNKNOWN]: Did he do batteries not included? 24:32.313 --> 24:32.853 [UNKNOWN]: Who did that? 24:33.874 --> 24:34.794 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, let's see if I could find that. 24:34.894 --> 24:37.096 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, it was not Matthew Robbins. 24:37.256 --> 24:38.036 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not familiar with him. 24:39.797 --> 24:43.300 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I haven't seen Kukun in that long. 24:43.320 --> 24:44.401 [UNKNOWN]: Got to watch it every now and then. 24:44.441 --> 24:45.181 [UNKNOWN]: So hold up. 24:45.341 --> 24:45.621 [UNKNOWN]: Hold up. 24:45.721 --> 24:46.762 [UNKNOWN]: We'll Steve Gutenberg. 24:47.142 --> 24:48.623 [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, it's Kitchie. 24:48.883 --> 24:49.684 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah. 24:49.744 --> 24:49.924 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 24:51.545 --> 24:52.686 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter if it holds up. 24:54.555 --> 24:55.295 [UNKNOWN]: I like old movies though. 24:55.476 --> 24:56.396 [UNKNOWN]: I like old movies. 24:56.496 --> 25:00.738 [UNKNOWN]: You're not cancelling, you know, hume crone in when you're like, I don't care about that. 25:00.758 --> 25:01.619 [UNKNOWN]: He's not care about that. 25:01.639 --> 25:06.041 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's, Well, it's not, I thought it's, that's what you meant when you said, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 25:06.101 --> 25:08.103 [UNKNOWN]: You're like, is it good, like, just as it good? 25:08.423 --> 25:09.383 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know. 25:09.623 --> 25:13.746 [UNKNOWN]: No, I, yeah, I, No, you can't, movies are, you can't go back. 25:14.619

--> 25:16.220 [UNKNOWN]: Corp. Fox was in cocoon. 25:16.460 --> 25:17.741 [UNKNOWN]: I don't wow all right. 25:18.161 --> 25:19.202 [UNKNOWN]: Probably a little young then, right? 25:19.582 --> 25:20.542 [UNKNOWN]: Well, she's a love intro. 25:20.602 --> 25:21.723 [UNKNOWN]: No, she's older than you think. 25:22.023 --> 25:22.263 [UNKNOWN]: Is she? 25:22.904 --> 25:24.084 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, right around that time. 25:24.164 --> 25:30.448 [UNKNOWN]: She did the, uh, that's when she did the Bruce Springsteen music video right around 85 because that would have been the born into USA album. 25:30.608 --> 25:31.788 [UNKNOWN]: She did dancing in the dark. 25:32.048 --> 25:32.809 [UNKNOWN]: She was in that video. 25:33.289 --> 25:34.990 [UNKNOWN]: She was already a full blown adult at that. 25:35.010 --> 25:36.591 [UNKNOWN]: She is 62 years old. 25:36.671 --> 25:37.151 [UNKNOWN]: God damn. 25:37.171 --> 25:37.451 [UNKNOWN]: Told you. 25:37.491 --> 25:37.792 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 25:37.832 --> 25:38.692 [UNKNOWN]: She's older than you think. 25:38.712 --> 25:41.193 [UNKNOWN]: It's all this person in the, in the friends cast. 25:41.253 --> 25:41.534 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, was she? 25:41.574 --> 25:41.934 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 25:41.954 --> 25:42.134 [UNKNOWN]: Well, 25:42.394 --> 25:49.478 [UNKNOWN]: She was already established, like, when friends came out, she was like a known second tier actress at that point. 25:49.498 --> 25:50.498 [UNKNOWN]: Like, people who she was. 25:50.878 --> 25:55.180 [UNKNOWN]: The other five were pretty much, you know, fresh to the scene. 25:55.500 --> 25:58.922 [UNKNOWN]: Matthew Perry did some supporting roles on different sitcoms. 25:58.942 --> 25:59.663 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 25:59.703 --> 26:03.464 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, she was in, she was obviously in side fell, and then Ace Fincher, a pet detective. 26:03.484 --> 26:04.905 [UNKNOWN]: She was the love interest in Ace Fincher. 26:04.945 --> 26:05.886 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she had been around. 26:05.946 --> 26:07.987 [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, like, because she was, she was known. 26:08.027 --> 26:10.448 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't know she was in cocoon, but that's that same time period. 26:10.968 --> 26:13.250 [UNKNOWN]: Matthew Perry did a guest spot on 9-02-1-0. 26:13.290 --> 26:24.641 [UNKNOWN]: He played the guy who had been going for the tennis scholarship, who had the abusive father, and Brandon Walsh uncovered it when he was writing a story about him in the school paper. 26:25.342 --> 26:30.887 [UNKNOWN]: And then he also had the great subplot on growing pains where he was, 26:32.325 --> 26:44.413 [UNKNOWN]: the boy, he played Sandy, which was the daughter's boyfriend who got in a drunk driving accident, and he died from his injuries, and then it was like a very special episode of why you shouldn't drunk drive like that. 26:45.593 --> 26:50.857 [UNKNOWN]: That's a classic episode, a sitcom episode of the 80s that Matthew Perry has Sandy. 26:51.697 --> 27:00.123 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah,

he had a bunch of TV, or whatever you wanna say about prestige TV these days, it's not like that, this is incredible. 27:00.746 --> 27:01.706 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I'd go on it. 27:01.726 --> 27:03.527 [UNKNOWN]: Look, this is like we'll have to say it like that. 27:03.567 --> 27:07.188 [UNKNOWN]: They're having a story like that growing dates. 27:07.228 --> 27:09.589 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've got somebody ties from truck driving. 27:10.109 --> 27:11.550 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, he was played sandy. 27:11.590 --> 27:12.810 [UNKNOWN]: I'll never forget that. 27:12.870 --> 27:14.991 [UNKNOWN]: Mikey foul cones listening to forget it, but I could. 27:15.011 --> 27:17.052 [UNKNOWN]: That's probably the day you decided you were never going to drink. 27:17.072 --> 27:17.832 [UNKNOWN]: You're like, God dammit. 27:18.032 --> 27:18.552 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 27:19.393 --> 27:21.193 [UNKNOWN]: It could have been because look what happened to sandy. 27:21.753 --> 27:22.794 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, look what happened to Matthew Perry. 27:23.730 --> 27:25.892 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, he wasn't meant to parry yet. 27:26.032 --> 27:26.652 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay. 27:27.052 --> 27:30.815 [UNKNOWN]: Random guest actor on growing things. 27:31.255 --> 27:37.400 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, but he had been around, he did a nice job on 902 playing like the rich tennis kid. 27:39.621 --> 27:41.202 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that way, like Courtney Cox. 27:41.282 --> 27:44.024 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she was, I don't remember her and Cocoon though. 27:44.104 --> 27:45.465 [UNKNOWN]: She goot and burgs love interest. 27:46.566 --> 27:48.768 [UNKNOWN]: That I don't, like I said, I haven't seen it moving forever. 27:49.188 --> 27:50.629 [UNKNOWN]: I know she was in Ace Ventura. 27:50.689 --> 27:52.030 [UNKNOWN]: She was Ace's love interest. 27:52.050 --> 27:53.311 [UNKNOWN]: I have no idea if she was AI. 27:53.864 --> 27:55.265 [UNKNOWN]: a clue and let's find out here. 27:55.285 --> 27:55.905 [UNKNOWN]: This is important. 27:55.926 --> 27:56.926 [UNKNOWN]: This is very important. 27:56.946 --> 27:58.507 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I need to know this now. 27:58.868 --> 27:59.528 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think so. 27:59.568 --> 28:04.231 [UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at him with an actress that does not look like her, but she was in the movie. 28:04.391 --> 28:06.353 [UNKNOWN]: Apparently Courtney Cox. 28:06.473 --> 28:10.956 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it looks like was she in this one or it looks like she was maybe in like a sequel. 28:13.175 --> 28:13.855 [UNKNOWN]: Now, he doesn't cook. 28:13.935 --> 28:15.496 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, cocoon the return, you're right. 28:15.536 --> 28:17.557 [UNKNOWN]: How what the hell is to cocoon the return? 28:17.637 --> 28:19.278 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I ever saw cocoon the return. 28:19.698 --> 28:21.479 [UNKNOWN]: Shit, she doesn't cocoon the return. 28:21.519 --> 28:23.580 [UNKNOWN]: You get, all right, my bad, my bad. 28:23.880 --> 28:24.340 [UNKNOWN]: Well, look at her. 28:24.360 --> 28:27.062 [UNKNOWN]: She looks older in this than she looked in friends. 28:27.082 --> 28:30.943 [UNKNOWN]: Look at, look, go look at cocoon the return, Courtney Cox. 28:31.003 --> 28:34.625 [UNKNOWN]: She looks seven years older than she did on friends. 28:35.165 --> 28:37.366 [UNKNOWN]: The 80s, man, decimated women. 28:37.607 --> 28:41.508 [UNKNOWN]: How the fuck cocoon came out in 85? 28:43.214 --> 28:46.897 [UNKNOWN]: And then they did a cocoon the return also in 85 something. 28:46.977 --> 28:48.699 [UNKNOWN]: No, 88, 88 was cocoon the return. 28:48.859 --> 28:50.180 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, OK, OK, that makes sense. 28:50.920 --> 28:52.542 [UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised none of them died before then. 28:55.071 --> 28:57.813 [UNKNOWN]: They were old as fuck, but maybe they weren't though. 28:57.873 --> 28:58.753 [UNKNOWN]: It's the 80s, man. 28:58.953 --> 29:01.715 [UNKNOWN]: Well, well, for Brimley wasn't, because that's like the running joke. 29:01.755 --> 29:05.117 [UNKNOWN]: Like in Cocoon, he was only like 46 in the record. 29:05.618 --> 29:07.239 [UNKNOWN]: But the rest of them were in their 80s. 29:07.259 --> 29:08.059 [UNKNOWN]: They were old as fuck. 29:08.079 --> 29:10.361 [UNKNOWN]: These were old silent movie actors. 29:10.781 --> 29:12.522 [UNKNOWN]: They didn't. 29:12.742 --> 29:15.704 [UNKNOWN]: So, but yeah, I got confused there. 29:15.764 --> 29:17.005 [UNKNOWN]: All right, so Cocoon was 85. 29:17.045 --> 29:18.026 [UNKNOWN]: Cocoon the return was 88. 29:18.046 --> 29:18.246 [UNKNOWN]: Because, 29:20.703 --> 29:23.824 [UNKNOWN]: Nor McDonald had a great bit about cocoon. 29:23.844 --> 29:31.186 [UNKNOWN]: And I don't remember the punchline of the bit was the curse of cocoon, because the actors kept dying. 29:31.566 --> 29:34.768 [UNKNOWN]: But obviously, you know, because they're fucking all 100 years old. 29:35.328 --> 29:42.250 [UNKNOWN]: But well, for Brimley with the diabetes, he was in his, I think he was legitimately in his 40s when they filmed that. 29:42.270 --> 29:47.812 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because when he died a couple of years ago, I remember people being like, we're really, it was probably many years ago that he died at this point. 29:49.398 --> 29:53.962 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was like, not as old as I think anybody thought he was when they would see the I would see. 29:53.982 --> 29:54.882 [UNKNOWN]: We didn't 2020. 29:54.902 --> 29:55.323 [UNKNOWN]: Good for him. 29:55.383 --> 29:57.905 [UNKNOWN]: He was born in 1934. 29:58.525 --> 30:01.788 [UNKNOWN]: So he was probably 49 or 50 when they shot it. 30:01.808 --> 30:02.488 [UNKNOWN]: It's crazy. 30:02.508 --> 30:05.330 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he had the big the big mustache in the big. 30:05.430 --> 30:07.672 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, the Yeah, he was 51. 30:07.692 --> 30:08.053 [UNKNOWN]: He was 51. 30:08.093 --> 30:09.794 [UNKNOWN]: When couldn't come out when he came out. 30:09.854 --> 30:11.495 [UNKNOWN]: So when they shot it, he was probably 49 or 50. 30:11.595 --> 30:11.835 [UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.

30:15.942 --> 30:23.707 [UNKNOWN]: because there's always those memes, like Tom Cruise now is 11 years older than what the real was in cocoon or whatever, you know? 30:24.688 --> 30:24.968 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:26.549 --> 30:28.470 [UNKNOWN]: But those other fuckers were born in like 19. 30:28.510 --> 30:30.251 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know, they were like, yeah, talkies. 30:30.271 --> 30:31.292 [UNKNOWN]: They were like early talkies. 30:31.492 --> 30:32.072 [UNKNOWN]: Actors? 30:32.152 --> 30:32.472 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:32.492 --> 30:33.053 [UNKNOWN]: Stop selling. 30:33.073 --> 30:33.173 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:33.253 --> 30:33.413 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 30:33.433 --> 30:35.834 [UNKNOWN]: You mcrone in was born in 1911. 30:40.117 --> 30:41.298 [UNKNOWN]: Check out Jessica Tandy. 30:43.154 --> 30:43.474 [UNKNOWN]: 1909. 30:43.494 --> 30:43.734 [UNKNOWN]: Wow. 30:43.974 --> 30:50.878 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was a fucking movie. 30:51.699 --> 30:52.579 [UNKNOWN]: It'd be important. 30:52.619 --> 30:53.059 [UNKNOWN]: 1909. 30:53.099 --> 30:54.060 [UNKNOWN]: That's all right. 30:54.400 --> 30:56.581 [UNKNOWN]: Like in 1929, she was like an adult. 30:56.841 --> 30:57.061 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 30:57.141 --> 30:57.382 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 30:57.522 --> 30:58.122 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 31:01.064 --> 31:03.405 [UNKNOWN]: But listen, listen, it's gonna happen to every one of us. 31:03.805 --> 31:04.565 [UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh. 31:04.846 --> 31:05.766 [UNKNOWN]: It's not a disease. 31:06.026 --> 31:07.147 [UNKNOWN]: It just fucking happens. 31:07.867 --> 31:08.888 [UNKNOWN]: It just fucking happens. 31:10.033 --> 31:10.733 [UNKNOWN]: To who's that? 31:10.953 --> 31:23.198 [UNKNOWN]: I don't even think they're the oldest one that I can't think of a guy's name cocoon film 1985 Oh Donna Meachie. 31:23.398 --> 31:24.359 [UNKNOWN]: I think was the oldest one. 31:24.379 --> 31:24.679 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah 1908. 31:24.699 --> 31:25.839 [UNKNOWN]: He was born in 1908 So 31:31.062 --> 31:34.944 [UNKNOWN]: some of the chairman says imagine being born during red dead redemption which is true. 31:38.466 --> 31:48.271 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was just um, I was just talking to my father-in-law yesterday and he said that he was talking about his father having played high school football. 31:48.291 --> 31:51.913 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, hold on a second, what year was your father born? 31:52.753 --> 31:54.294 [UNKNOWN]: And he was like, uh, I think he said 19, uh, 31:56.588 --> 32:16.278 [UNKNOWN]: 1929 that's like so he played tall he played high school football on like 1942 like leather helmet Yeah, yeah, he's like he used to tell him like fuck it's fear really Civil he said civil war veterans used to like live like he knew civil war veterans. 32:16.298 --> 32:16.818 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that always 32:18.159 --> 32:38.136 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they were still like using horse-drawn carriage to go from like hit their town to the next town over which was like dime box And they would take a horse and a carriage to go to dime box to like get supplies for the next just crazy shit That's like one generation one generation away from what you're doing 32:38.576 --> 32:50.392 [UNKNOWN]: that's like he knew that guy like my father-in-law knew that like that like his my father-in-law's grandfather who he said uh he's watching a cowboy game with him once when he was a kid like in 1970 or something 32:51.941 --> 33:00.947 [UNKNOWN]: and the receiver dropped the ball and he was like, ah, like, like, him and his father were like, oh, man, and then they showed an instant replay and his grandfather was like, oh, God, bang, and he dropped it again. 33:01.407 --> 33:06.090 [UNKNOWN]: Cause he didn't understand the concept of a real instant replay. 33:06.430 --> 33:08.091 [UNKNOWN]: But, ah, that's the best of them. 33:08.452 --> 33:09.472 [UNKNOWN]: I can't put it. 33:10.153 --> 33:12.454 [UNKNOWN]: But, that guy was born in like 1897. 33:12.594 --> 33:15.016 [UNKNOWN]: I give him a fucking break, yeah. 33:15.176 --> 33:16.377 [UNKNOWN]: Like he was born in like 1897. 33:16.417 --> 33:16.537 [UNKNOWN]: So he, 33:18.458 --> 33:22.521 [UNKNOWN]: Like, television was like, he couldn't believe his eyes. 33:22.581 --> 33:26.544 [UNKNOWN]: He's watching, you know, he's in his 80s, watching a fucking or 70s at that point. 33:26.584 --> 33:29.286 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, almost his 80s, you know, he didn't understand. 33:29.527 --> 33:31.348 [UNKNOWN]: He thought it was another result was the next play. 33:31.388 --> 33:35.091 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think of the technological advances that occurred in that man's lifetime. 33:35.111 --> 33:36.652 [UNKNOWN]: Like, we think a lot happened in our lifetime. 33:36.672 --> 33:38.954 [UNKNOWN]: And, and a lot did, of course, a lot has changed. 33:39.414 --> 33:43.077 [UNKNOWN]: But that guy went from like, the radio didn't exist. 33:43.097 --> 33:45.259 [UNKNOWN]: But he was born like, maybe he didn't exist. 33:47.400 --> 33:52.729 [UNKNOWN]: And you have to, so remember, he also grew up in extremely world taxes in 1899. 33:52.889 --> 33:58.458 [UNKNOWN]: Right, so they were late to probably every of one of those technological advances by here. 33:58.478 --> 33:59.760 [UNKNOWN]: He wasn't like dead one. 34:02.132 --> 34:06.655 [UNKNOWN]: He grew up in a Clint Eastwood movie, like he was fucking tough on the street. 34:06.695 --> 34:09.157 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, you know, walking in a public hanging. 34:09.197 --> 34:15.641 [UNKNOWN]: See, him and his brothers and sisters would go to public hangings in the town, you know, and they fucking that outhouses. 34:15.721 --> 34:21.105 [UNKNOWN]: And then in a plumbing, and they fucking had, they'd be like, oh, we got a lot of them, there's outlaws in town. 34:21.145 --> 34:24.307 [UNKNOWN]: Like shit, like that was going on when this guy was a kid, you know? 34:24.387 --> 34:27.009 [UNKNOWN]: And now he's, you know, now he's watching, 34:28.230 --> 34:30.932 [UNKNOWN]: You know, Roger's stall backs receiver drop a pass.

34:30.952 --> 34:31.712 [UNKNOWN]: He's confused. 34:31.953 --> 34:32.993 [UNKNOWN]: He doesn't know what's going on. 34:33.153 --> 34:34.614 [UNKNOWN]: He thinks it's another play. 34:35.995 --> 34:36.816 [UNKNOWN]: That's for God's sake. 34:37.776 --> 34:38.577 [UNKNOWN]: That was a great story. 34:38.657 --> 34:40.298 [UNKNOWN]: I, you told me that story yesterday. 34:40.318 --> 34:41.039 [UNKNOWN]: I was, I was done. 34:41.059 --> 34:41.479 [UNKNOWN]: That's great. 34:42.039 --> 34:44.521 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just an old old ass Texas guy. 34:44.541 --> 34:45.021 [UNKNOWN]: That's great. 34:45.962 --> 34:46.242 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 34:46.562 --> 34:46.922 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 34:47.343 --> 34:49.844 [UNKNOWN]: Well, suppose we should talk about wrestling at some point. 34:51.967 --> 34:55.009 [UNKNOWN]: Some of the chair mast was anybody hot was any women hot in the 80s. 34:55.029 --> 34:56.110 [UNKNOWN]: We've had this discussion already. 34:56.130 --> 34:58.151 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there's go back in the flash of 24-7. 34:58.171 --> 34:59.872 [UNKNOWN]: There's probably many discussions about that. 34:59.892 --> 35:02.514 [UNKNOWN]: But I think we declared, no, nobody was hot in the 80s. 35:02.714 --> 35:06.336 [UNKNOWN]: So 80s little rough 70s little rough. 35:06.657 --> 35:09.879 [UNKNOWN]: Now I can find, listen, I'll bang out some ladies from the 60s. 35:10.459 --> 35:11.080 [UNKNOWN]: I like the 60s. 35:11.120 --> 35:12.540 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, I like the 60s. 35:14.097 --> 35:19.740 [UNKNOWN]: You know, but yeah, late 70s and the and especially the early 80s little rough little rough nobody looked good. 35:19.760 --> 35:20.620 [UNKNOWN]: The men didn't look good. 35:20.640 --> 35:23.541 [UNKNOWN]: The women didn't look good the fashion was really bad. 35:23.601 --> 35:25.402 [UNKNOWN]: It was, um, yeah, a little rough. 35:25.802 --> 35:28.604 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so we've had a lot of old. 35:28.744 --> 35:34.186 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I said, look at Courtney, look up Courtney Cox cocoon and you'll see they look do a Google image search of her. 35:43.756 --> 35:46.637 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like that's what the 80s did. 35:46.797 --> 35:49.118 [UNKNOWN]: The Courtney Cox cocoon, that's what the 80s did. 35:49.478 --> 35:54.699 [UNKNOWN]: That she looks fine, like she's, you know, but again, she is like a very, very, very attractive woman. 35:54.859 --> 35:56.640 [UNKNOWN]: And she looks, nah, I don't know, fine. 35:57.720 --> 35:59.161 [UNKNOWN]: You gotta remember Courtney Cox too. 35:59.241 --> 36:04.082 [UNKNOWN]: She was, she was Alex P. Keaton's main girlfriend on Family Ties. 36:04.422 --> 36:05.443 [UNKNOWN]: She was very well known. 36:05.463 --> 36:06.523 [UNKNOWN]: That's the point I was talking about. 36:06.543 --> 36:09.364 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's like that was a big role. 36:09.404 --> 36:11.985 [UNKNOWN]: She had like a full season role when she was, you know, 36:12.905 --> 36:13.326 [UNKNOWN]: Michael J. 36:13.366 --> 36:14.649 [UNKNOWN]: Fox is love interest or whatever. 36:15.030 --> 36:19.098 [UNKNOWN]: Now is a great episode too where they like break up and they do yeah the the yeah 36:20.622 --> 36:25.566 [UNKNOWN]: They play the, well, the fucking song at this moment by Billy Vera and the beaters. 36:25.786 --> 36:28.789 [UNKNOWN]: Like that, that's a famous sitcom scene as well. 36:29.469 --> 36:31.611 [UNKNOWN]: So, well, you give me my wheelhouse, man. 36:31.651 --> 36:33.413 [UNKNOWN]: I could just go, you better start talking about it. 36:33.473 --> 36:34.113 [UNKNOWN]: I know, I know. 36:34.133 --> 36:34.674 [UNKNOWN]: This is fine. 36:34.714 --> 36:35.294 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, screw it. 36:35.354 --> 36:36.355 [UNKNOWN]: Fuck the G1, whatever. 36:36.895 --> 36:39.478 [UNKNOWN]: If you don't, then this couldn't be the whole thing. 36:39.498 --> 36:40.879 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this could be it. 36:41.219 --> 36:42.180 [UNKNOWN]: One more quick family talk. 36:42.200 --> 36:42.800 [UNKNOWN]: Apologies. 36:42.860 --> 36:44.021 [UNKNOWN]: Here we are, she tends to. 36:44.041 --> 36:46.844 [UNKNOWN]: I'm working in Steadstock about the family ties. 36:47.464 --> 36:50.067 [UNKNOWN]: So I found a family ties fast channel. 36:50.227 --> 36:52.609 [UNKNOWN]: What are you supposed to do? 36:52.649 --> 36:53.830 [UNKNOWN]: I've become a fast channel guy. 36:53.890 --> 36:55.712 [UNKNOWN]: I think I've converted to the fashion. 36:55.812 --> 36:57.513 [UNKNOWN]: The idea of a fashion kind of rocks for me. 36:58.154 --> 37:04.540 [UNKNOWN]: I wish there was fewer commercials, obviously, but no, recent vacations I've been on. 37:04.580 --> 37:10.646 [UNKNOWN]: It's like we go to a house and it's, you know, I'm rocking the baby to sleep and I'm just combing through fashion channels and I'm man, I don't know. 37:10.746 --> 37:12.027 [UNKNOWN]: I could get down with a fashion, I think. 37:12.879 --> 37:23.804 [UNKNOWN]: So TLB I'd never seen the show, and I called her in the room because I wanted to, I wanted to, like, just seeing Bateman at that age. 37:24.911 --> 37:30.192 [UNKNOWN]: looks a lot like TLB looked at that age like when they were both 18 or whatever, you know. 37:30.632 --> 37:32.913 [UNKNOWN]: So I wanted to bring her in a room and show her and see what she thought. 37:32.933 --> 37:36.113 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, look, that's like your 18-year-old doppelganger, right? 37:36.674 --> 37:38.674 [UNKNOWN]: So she's like, what is this show and I explain to her? 37:38.734 --> 37:40.114 [UNKNOWN]: She never heard of it or seen it. 37:40.614 --> 37:42.835 [UNKNOWN]: Because she's like on another planet, sometimes she's like that. 37:43.035 --> 37:45.736 [UNKNOWN]: So she's just watching it for a couple of minutes. 37:45.756 --> 37:47.136 [UNKNOWN]: She goes, that guy's really hot. 37:47.696 --> 37:49.656 [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, oh my god, you're into Michael J. 37:49.716 --> 37:50.057 [UNKNOWN]: Fox. 37:50.157 --> 37:50.857 [UNKNOWN]: She's like, oh no, 37:52.573

--> 37:55.628 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, Michael Gross, you want a bone, Michael Gross? 37:56.728 --> 37:57.529 [UNKNOWN]: What is happening? 37:57.929 --> 37:58.449 [UNKNOWN]: What? 37:58.830 --> 37:59.170 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 38:00.091 --> 38:00.431 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 38:01.011 --> 38:01.372 [UNKNOWN]: What? 38:01.412 --> 38:01.752 [UNKNOWN]: No, no. 38:02.052 --> 38:02.893 [UNKNOWN]: She's like, not him. 38:03.073 --> 38:03.974 [UNKNOWN]: She's like, I know him. 38:04.034 --> 38:05.275 [UNKNOWN]: He's from back to the future. 38:05.355 --> 38:07.296 [UNKNOWN]: Like, the gray hair with the beard. 38:07.316 --> 38:07.817 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 38:07.837 --> 38:08.237 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 38:08.297 --> 38:08.857 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 38:08.937 --> 38:11.259 [UNKNOWN]: But that's not what you look like at all, so. 38:11.640 --> 38:13.781 [UNKNOWN]: Naturally, I thought she was talking about Michael J. 38:13.801 --> 38:14.181 [UNKNOWN]: Fox. 38:14.202 --> 38:14.522 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 38:14.602 --> 38:15.302 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 38:15.322 --> 38:16.043 [UNKNOWN]: She thinks Michael J. 38:16.083 --> 38:16.683 [UNKNOWN]: Fox is hot. 38:16.723 --> 38:17.584 [UNKNOWN]: Whatever. 38:18.185 --> 38:19.025 [UNKNOWN]: And then she's like, oh, no. 38:19.045 --> 38:19.706 [UNKNOWN]: I think him. 38:20.086 --> 38:21.487 [UNKNOWN]: She's like, I'm talking about that guy. 38:21.627 --> 38:22.608 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like the dad. 38:22.788 --> 38:38.058 [UNKNOWN]: She likes the plaid and the rolled-up sling, yeah, she is a salt and pepper girl, so not salt and pepper, but salt and pepper isn't the hair, yeah All right, is she a salt and pepper fan as well or no? 38:38.942 --> 38:40.543 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe I could ask her. 38:40.663 --> 38:42.724 [UNKNOWN]: They have very very recent lyrics. 38:42.764 --> 38:44.886 [UNKNOWN]: She seems to enjoy a recent way. 38:44.906 --> 38:46.167 [UNKNOWN]: They were kind of the four runners. 38:46.207 --> 38:48.308 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's an early TLC too. 38:48.328 --> 38:50.449 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Salt and Pepper was the four runner early TLC. 38:50.469 --> 38:53.311 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, very very very very. 38:53.491 --> 38:54.772 [UNKNOWN]: Shoop is a very sexual. 38:54.852 --> 38:55.312 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 38:55.372 --> 38:55.793 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, God. 38:55.833 --> 38:58.094 [UNKNOWN]: Salt and Pepper owning sexuality for women. 38:58.174 --> 38:59.295 [UNKNOWN]: Early early on. 38:59.735 --> 39:00.676 [UNKNOWN]: Tlb loves that. 39:01.056 --> 39:03.478 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, yeah, she was holding for Michael Gross. 39:05.879 --> 39:10.464 [UNKNOWN]: He's got a dweeb with like, He's supposed to be a dweeb on the show, right? 39:10.604 --> 39:11.826 [UNKNOWN]: You're supposed to not expect him. 39:12.626 --> 39:18.352 [UNKNOWN]: Him in the life are like, they're like, they're old hippies, but in a corny way. 39:18.533 --> 39:19.293 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right, right, right. 39:19.333 --> 39:20.395 [UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right, right, right. 39:20.535 --> 39:21.936 [UNKNOWN]:

Right, right, right, right. 39:22.937 --> 39:27.800 [UNKNOWN]: She, like, she don't know the character, she just looked at him and got a hot mother, I guess. 39:28.080 --> 39:33.763 [UNKNOWN]: But, um, that and, and we'll feral, but specifically from Talladega Knights, no other time. 39:34.124 --> 39:40.707 [UNKNOWN]: Like, she thinks we'll feral is hot in Talladega Knights, but not in any other role, which is very specific number one. 39:41.028 --> 39:41.348 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 39:41.768 --> 39:44.550 [UNKNOWN]: And, and, and a, and a little, a little odd, a little odd. 39:44.630 --> 39:46.451 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what's weird or that or Michael Gross. 39:46.651 --> 39:47.151 [UNKNOWN]: What's going on? 39:47.171 --> 39:47.871 [UNKNOWN]: Gross is tough. 39:47.912 --> 39:48.212 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 39:49.032 --> 39:50.814 [UNKNOWN]: It's, uh, yeah. 39:50.994 --> 39:51.335 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 39:51.695 --> 39:53.236 [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, that's more a family ties. 39:54.057 --> 39:54.898 [UNKNOWN]: You go on it right now. 39:54.918 --> 39:57.100 [UNKNOWN]: When she was 18, she looked just like just a statement. 39:57.220 --> 39:59.042 [UNKNOWN]: You're just got to trust me on that one. 39:59.583 --> 40:01.144 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I've seen her and I could see it. 40:01.545 --> 40:06.009 [UNKNOWN]: I know what adult TLB looks like and I see what this one, yeah, it's she looks like an 18. 40:06.049 --> 40:10.954 [UNKNOWN]: So like when I see her high school pictures at her mom's house, like that that's what she looks like. 40:11.835 --> 40:12.335 [UNKNOWN]: I could for her. 40:12.876 --> 40:13.096 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 40:15.744 --> 40:16.624 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm fine. 40:16.644 --> 40:17.184 [UNKNOWN]: We're not so far. 40:17.224 --> 40:19.345 [UNKNOWN]: That's like a little kid, much more. 40:19.385 --> 40:20.705 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I am talking about you. 40:20.745 --> 40:22.946 [UNKNOWN]: Like, you look like justine Bateman from family. 40:22.966 --> 40:23.786 [UNKNOWN]: Remember, I told you that? 40:24.466 --> 40:25.186 [UNKNOWN]: No, obviously. 40:25.206 --> 40:25.806 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, come here. 40:26.207 --> 40:28.347 [UNKNOWN]: This one's your live to the world, by the way. 40:28.407 --> 40:29.427 [UNKNOWN]: So don't get me canceled. 40:29.607 --> 40:33.568 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so look, we have a, that's a Courtney Cox. 40:35.809 --> 40:38.329 [UNKNOWN]: When you were a teenager, you looked like her. 40:38.930 --> 40:40.550 [UNKNOWN]: OK, I, well, do you agree? 40:41.090 --> 40:44.211 [UNKNOWN]: Like with the low set eyes and the, yeah, I guess so. 40:45.446 --> 40:47.587 [UNKNOWN]: Like, from a side lamp, like, just quit the lamp. 40:47.647 --> 40:51.148 [UNKNOWN]: At a glance, like, my hair wasn't like that, but yeah. 40:51.288 --> 40:52.149 [UNKNOWN]: No, of course. 40:52.189 --> 40:55.230 [UNKNOWN]: That's, you know, I think just the eyes at the setting of the eyes. 40:55.250 --> 40:59.032 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the low set, wide eyes and the, yeah, you get the

same face structure. 40:59.432 --> 41:00.952 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was a facial structure. 41:00.972 --> 41:07.575 [UNKNOWN]: And her character's like, real ditsy and everything, so, you know, just, that didn't work at and work. 41:08.255 --> 41:09.416 [UNKNOWN]: But I told you, she's still there. 41:09.436 --> 41:10.096 [UNKNOWN]: She's still there. 41:10.156 --> 41:11.177 [UNKNOWN]: Michael Gross. 41:11.197 --> 41:11.777 [UNKNOWN]: Please, please. 41:11.817 --> 41:12.477 [UNKNOWN]: We need a live. 41:12.497 --> 41:13.277 [UNKNOWN]: All right, to come here. 41:15.431 --> 41:18.272 [UNKNOWN]: was when I put the show on that one time and you came in the room. 41:18.993 --> 41:19.693 [UNKNOWN]: Here's the cast. 41:20.453 --> 41:22.354 [UNKNOWN]: And you said to me, oh, that guy's hot. 41:22.554 --> 41:24.135 [UNKNOWN]: And I assumed you meant Michael J. 41:24.175 --> 41:24.575 [UNKNOWN]: Fox. 41:24.675 --> 41:26.236 [UNKNOWN]: And you were like, no, the other guy. 41:26.536 --> 41:27.676 [UNKNOWN]: It was the dad. 41:28.097 --> 41:28.877 [UNKNOWN]: You remember that? 41:29.057 --> 41:29.917 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 41:30.277 --> 41:31.218 [UNKNOWN]: That picture's not the best. 41:31.238 --> 41:34.119 [UNKNOWN]: But in real life, he was the show was on, I think. 41:34.139 --> 41:35.300 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the show was on, yeah. 41:35.440 --> 41:38.261 [UNKNOWN]: I think when fatherly duties, yeah, he was kind of here. 41:38.907 --> 41:43.974 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, there you have it straight from the story for fatherly duties, she's a big fan of putting food on the table. 41:43.994 --> 41:46.658 [UNKNOWN]: I like it so yeah fatherly duties 41:49.623 --> 41:50.784 [UNKNOWN]: So you go straight from the source. 41:51.184 --> 41:55.689 [UNKNOWN]: So there you go, she's horny for the salt and pepper and being a good family, a good father. 41:55.789 --> 41:59.192 [UNKNOWN]: So watch in Michael Gross, set Tina Yoder straight. 41:59.572 --> 42:00.253 [UNKNOWN]: That's all right. 42:01.414 --> 42:03.996 [UNKNOWN]: I got her all hot, father, so I like it. 42:04.517 --> 42:05.097 [UNKNOWN]: Well, good for you. 42:05.117 --> 42:08.380 [UNKNOWN]: Good for you, because you put foot on it and tell everyone you got some salt and pepper too, so you're good. 42:08.620 --> 42:09.441 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I do. 42:09.461 --> 42:09.721 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 42:09.961 --> 42:11.743 [UNKNOWN]: So you're in the right place. 42:11.903 --> 42:14.746 [UNKNOWN]: So I got the first thing she mentioned was fatherly duty. 42:14.786 --> 42:16.007 [UNKNOWN]: You're in the right place. 42:18.125 --> 42:23.246 [UNKNOWN]: She was just hot for him, like, you know, coming from work and getting things done. 42:23.306 --> 42:25.246 [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, yeah. 42:25.507 --> 42:26.387 [UNKNOWN]: That's good, hey, good for her. 42:27.487 --> 42:28.107 [UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that. 42:28.127 --> 42:30.648 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, she, you always make fun of me. 42:30.668 --> 42:31.748 [UNKNOWN]: I like the work and women. 42:32.228 --> 42:33.768 [UNKNOWN]: I'm a big fan of the work and you know. 42:33.828 --> 42:34.948 [UNKNOWN]: I know, you do like that. 42:35.409 --> 42:35.829 [UNKNOWN]: You like that. 42:35.849 --> 42:38.769 [UNKNOWN]: You like a woman that's coming straight from the office. 42:38.949 --> 42:39.809 [UNKNOWN]: I know you're into that. 42:40.510 --> 42:43.130 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, says, that's true. 42:43.450 --> 42:47.271 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, well, let's not make it weird, though. 42:51.554 --> 43:08.511 [UNKNOWN]: yes you dress very professionally yes yes correct your double fist in those sprites what's going on you got okay okay thank you 43:13.370 --> 43:32.920 [UNKNOWN]: was she offended by my attractiveness to a working women or no she can't hear you oh okay but she heard me saying that you like and it she's like oh that's how i dress at work and i don't make it weird don't make it weird i mean yeah that's not making weird don't worry about it but yeah i mean now yes she comes home some days and you know 43:34.143 --> 43:35.744 [UNKNOWN]: I ain't gonna say I'm going to the bank. 43:35.764 --> 43:46.692 [UNKNOWN]: I don't I don't always use the drive-through ATM sometimes I go in You look it for a farm loan No, but I can talk I can talk you look at my drink. 43:46.872 --> 43:53.857 [UNKNOWN]: That's a lot of what you get so yeah, I could probably use a tractor I don't know just some plowing I could probably make 43:55.237 --> 43:57.717 [UNKNOWN]: but when the back yard a little easier, I don't know if. 43:57.757 --> 44:04.119 [UNKNOWN]: Right on, I wouldn't take, I'd ride for about a minute and a half, but uh, sure, I get to get the turn radius on. 44:04.139 --> 44:04.779 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 44:04.819 --> 44:07.459 [UNKNOWN]: We can do any wrestling on this show at all, or like, what is this? 44:08.740 --> 44:09.060 [UNKNOWN]: Sure. 44:09.280 --> 44:10.420 [UNKNOWN]: Let's see what I'm talking about. 44:10.460 --> 44:12.720 [UNKNOWN]: The YouTube listeners are going to be, I rate this. 44:12.860 --> 44:14.321 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, that guy has a comment in the wild. 44:14.341 --> 44:15.561 [UNKNOWN]: They got used to get really mad about it. 44:15.581 --> 44:16.281 [UNKNOWN]: I think he gave up on it. 44:16.301 --> 44:19.122 [UNKNOWN]: I think he gave up, yeah, because I was like, brother, it's going to happen. 44:19.142 --> 44:20.362 [UNKNOWN]: You're just going to have to deal with it. 44:20.422 --> 44:20.882 [UNKNOWN]: So we do. 44:22.348 --> 44:37.092 [UNKNOWN]: Well, the current that no dope chat room is just going nuts trying to send us hot women of the 80s and trying to get us to agree your disagree One guy said 80s hair metal chicks 80s hair metal chicks are not hot at all Not not really my bad. 44:37.132 --> 44:38.192 [UNKNOWN]: No, they're not my bag either. 44:38.312 --> 44:43.874 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, Phoebe Kate somebody dropped Phoebe Kate's in the chat, and I will Oh Phoebe Kate. 44:43.974 --> 44:45.294 [UNKNOWN]: There's about like

fast times. 44:45.334 --> 44:46.815 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's about wires for sure. 44:47.335 --> 44:47.475 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah 44:48.863 --> 44:50.724 [UNKNOWN]: No, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, not a speedable. 44:50.944 --> 44:51.424 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, of course. 44:51.684 --> 44:56.826 [UNKNOWN]: That's just, she was an iconic, that was an iconic, like we're not, no one would be disagree with that. 44:57.987 --> 45:05.950 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, that's like saying, well, Heather, walklier, well, yes, I mean, you know, you know, you know, of course. 45:06.350 --> 45:14.754 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I'm just saying like, if you go to the mall in the 80s, all right, so right here, you got to be into the big hair and the, and the, yeah, it's a rough scene. 45:14.954 --> 45:16.355 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's guess I said, don't judge that. 45:17.887 --> 45:18.767 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know. 45:18.807 --> 45:19.748 [UNKNOWN]: Not for me. 45:19.768 --> 45:20.408 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not for me. 45:20.428 --> 45:21.428 [UNKNOWN]: That's all. 45:21.468 --> 45:24.489 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's all with that. 45:24.749 --> 45:26.209 [UNKNOWN]: I said, I like working with it. 45:26.549 --> 45:26.970 [UNKNOWN]: Not tough. 45:26.990 --> 45:27.330 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 45:28.150 --> 45:28.390 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 45:28.690 --> 45:29.070 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 45:29.110 --> 45:32.411 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe if you're in the like reapply or something, I'm just not never been my thing. 45:33.291 --> 45:33.511 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 45:33.972 --> 45:35.052 [UNKNOWN]: Well, all my friends will be 45:37.513 --> 45:38.073 [UNKNOWN]: I've stopped getting that. 45:38.093 --> 45:39.814 [UNKNOWN]: That's how I know Derby's not hot anymore. 45:39.854 --> 45:42.836 [UNKNOWN]: My friends have stopped texting me about how hot rear Ripley is. 45:43.036 --> 45:44.137 [UNKNOWN]: They were big into that. 45:44.437 --> 45:52.081 [UNKNOWN]: All my attitude era friends that like dropped off and stopped watching wrestling, they started getting into it like three years ago and they were just all incredibly horny for rear Ripley. 45:52.142 --> 45:52.482 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, 45:54.853 --> 45:57.394 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, bad guys, but uh, yeah, that has dried up. 45:57.434 --> 45:58.694 [UNKNOWN]: I have not heard anything from him for a while. 45:58.774 --> 46:01.155 [UNKNOWN]: And she has looks like a lamented mine to me. 46:01.315 --> 46:01.695 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 46:01.995 --> 46:06.136 [UNKNOWN]: I, she looks like she dropped out of my school because she was smoking in the bathroom. 46:06.456 --> 46:11.258 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you think smoking in my school and they're going to be like, we're very disappointed in you. 46:11.298 --> 46:11.638 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 46:13.098 --> 46:17.822 [UNKNOWN]: I think she went to mind school, got caught smoking in the bathroom or something, and they got expelled. 46:18.002 --> 46:21.645 [UNKNOWN]: And like, would they talk to you at mind school when they expelled you? 46:21.665 --> 46:22.746 [UNKNOWN]: Or do you think they would like it? 46:22.766 --> 46:23.887 [UNKNOWN]: No, they might not. 46:23.907 --> 46:27.290 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, they like make a door and open it and point to it. 46:27.310 --> 46:28.310 [UNKNOWN]: You got to exit right. 46:28.451 --> 46:31.693 [UNKNOWN]: That's, she looks like she was expelled from mind school. 46:31.713 --> 46:33.415 [UNKNOWN]: That's what reapply looks like to me. 46:33.755 --> 46:35.777 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not sexually attracted to her at all. 46:36.457 --> 46:39.619 [UNKNOWN]: And I usually don't like to do this because people get bothered by it and stuff. 46:39.639 --> 46:41.680 [UNKNOWN]: Like, everyone's attracted to different things. 46:41.740 --> 46:45.481 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but she's a lovely woman and I'm sure Buddy Murphy is very happy. 46:45.702 --> 46:47.242 [UNKNOWN]: But I... 46:47.302 --> 46:49.163 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not even the Buddy Vatties. 46:49.243 --> 46:51.665 [UNKNOWN]: Isn't this a... Yeah, next to you there, fucking. 46:52.285 --> 46:54.106 [UNKNOWN]: In that house, he's probably still Buddy Murphy. 46:54.126 --> 46:54.746 [UNKNOWN]: Let's be honest. 46:54.766 --> 46:55.046 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 46:55.126 --> 47:00.669 [UNKNOWN]: But I'm just saying, like, you know, honest to God, I wouldn't even take her number. 47:01.389 --> 47:02.670 [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't even take her number rich. 47:08.428 --> 47:09.088 [UNKNOWN]: Not my thing. 47:09.148 --> 47:09.569 [UNKNOWN]: That's fine. 47:10.509 --> 47:12.430 [UNKNOWN]: We should probably move on to wrestling. 47:12.471 --> 47:12.911 [UNKNOWN]: That's enough. 47:13.171 --> 47:15.993 [UNKNOWN]: That is a good way to know that we have gone too far. 47:16.033 --> 47:16.753 [UNKNOWN]: We must talk wrestling. 47:16.813 --> 47:23.197 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, tonight, on the flagship, we are gonna be talking about the G1 climax of some of my finals and the finals. 47:23.237 --> 47:24.938 [UNKNOWN]: There's 90 minutes into this locker thing. 47:24.978 --> 47:26.179 [UNKNOWN]: What now we're getting tonight? 47:26.199 --> 47:27.780 [UNKNOWN]: Night on the flagship tonight. 47:30.101 --> 47:30.922 [UNKNOWN]: We're professionals. 47:31.682 --> 47:32.543 [UNKNOWN]: Look, here's the thing. 47:33.285 --> 47:39.427 [UNKNOWN]: I go back and I listen to the Flex of 24-7 channel, by the way, Voices of Wrestling.com slash YouTube.com slash Voices of Wrestling. 47:40.107 --> 47:46.849 [UNKNOWN]: One thing that I love and also, I'm not sure if it's good, I listen to our shows from 2014 and they are the same show. 47:47.189 --> 47:48.189 [UNKNOWN]: Now is that good or bad? 47:48.209 --> 47:58.992 [UNKNOWN]: Some people might say it's good, some people might say it's bad, but like, there are things that change, like the content of what we talk about, the promotions that we talk about changes, but the basic tenor of the show has not changed at all. 47:59.032 --> 47:59.472 [UNKNOWN]: And I think, 48:00.252 --> 48:06.596 [UNKNOWN]: Again, I don't know

if that's good or bad like I think several people would call that good and and some people might think that that's bad, but I appreciate it. 48:07.737 --> 48:10.559 [UNKNOWN]: I like to know that we We're not changing for anybody. 48:11.219 --> 48:11.900 [UNKNOWN]: It's what we do. 48:12.140 --> 48:13.401 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 48:13.881 --> 48:15.562 [UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll brand and we do. 48:21.714 --> 48:25.216 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't think we're gonna talk about Paul the back at all tonight, and that's fine. 48:25.396 --> 48:27.078 [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna preview the G1 climax. 48:27.618 --> 48:30.160 [UNKNOWN]: We're talking about Tetsuya Naito when in the GHC title. 48:30.800 --> 48:32.581 [UNKNOWN]: They know a legacy rat. 48:32.601 --> 48:34.303 [UNKNOWN]: I feel like all their shows are called legacy rise. 48:34.323 --> 48:36.024 [UNKNOWN]: Now, they got this thing like world collide. 48:36.144 --> 48:38.586 [UNKNOWN]: Every time I watch a Noah show, it's called legacy rises. 48:39.126 --> 48:40.427 [UNKNOWN]: Every time I think, I don't know why. 48:40.607 --> 48:42.869 [UNKNOWN]: It's always legacy rise, but I feel like it's always legacy rise. 48:43.349 --> 48:46.111 [UNKNOWN]: Right, it's never showed that they do call legacy rise these days. 48:47.531 --> 49:10.026 [UNKNOWN]: I definitely feel like we talked about legacy rise like this show is called legacy rise The next show is called legacy rise and I swear to God We've talked about legacy rise before but anyway, I'll be also revealed their N1 blocks the N1 victory Starting in September so we'll talk about the N1 I'll look a little bit at EW's all-in card, which is starting to take a little bit of shape And then I do want to start off with this story Because this is the story that just will not go away 49:11.019 --> 49:12.220 [UNKNOWN]: But we haven't talked about it yet. 49:12.240 --> 49:13.822 [UNKNOWN]: So we're not letting it go away just yet. 49:14.503 --> 49:16.144 [UNKNOWN]: The Avery Styles story. 49:16.264 --> 49:23.592 [UNKNOWN]: So do you want me to set the stage or does everybody, should we just assume that everybody on earth knows the Avery Styles story at this point? 49:23.612 --> 49:24.833 [UNKNOWN]: It's set the stage, I guess. 49:24.933 --> 49:25.654 [UNKNOWN]: So a little. 49:26.114 --> 49:26.315 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 49:26.335 --> 49:29.178 [UNKNOWN]: So this all started with netty nightharts. 49:29.798 --> 49:32.479 [UNKNOWN]: netty night are don't call her Natalia on the Indies. 49:32.819 --> 49:33.700 [UNKNOWN]: She's netty night hard. 49:33.720 --> 49:34.720 [UNKNOWN]: She wears a mouth guard. 49:34.780 --> 49:36.140 [UNKNOWN]: So you better respect her. 49:36.781 --> 49:38.821 [UNKNOWN]: She credited young every styles. 49:38.901 --> 49:48.745 [UNKNOWN]: The 19-year-old son of ages styles for paying his dues and longtime indie worker Eric Cannon, who had just recently worked with him the prior weekend at G.C.W. 49:48.905 --> 49:52.546 [UNKNOWN]: and first wrestling

in that whole weekend when they were in Minneapolis. 49:52.566 --> 49:54.007 [UNKNOWN]: Pick it back in off summer slam weekend. 49:54.647 --> 49:56.268 [UNKNOWN]: Eric Cannon was like, whoa, I can't 49:57.228 --> 49:58.289 [UNKNOWN]: can't let this stand. 49:58.889 --> 50:04.871 [UNKNOWN]: He jumped on a Twitter to say quote as someone who watched this kid skirt away from helping with a single thing at this very show. 50:05.491 --> 50:07.452 [UNKNOWN]: I just like to say L.O. 50:07.792 --> 50:08.633 [UNKNOWN]: F.N.L. 50:09.033 --> 50:17.897 [UNKNOWN]: and that set off a firestorm which began with Avery's Dad AJ jumping in and saying quote he was paid to wrestle at G.C.W. 50:18.297 --> 50:20.057 [UNKNOWN]: not help you put up and take down the ring. 50:20.378 --> 50:20.938 [UNKNOWN]: That sounds like 50:26.580 --> 50:34.153 [UNKNOWN]: Cody Rhodes jumped in and gave Sapolsky jumped in and then we get all that we'll get all yeah And then it just got off the fucking rails at this point. 50:34.213 --> 50:37.619 [UNKNOWN]: So there there is the stage set Joe how do we begin? 50:39.883 --> 50:40.143 [UNKNOWN]: I mean 50:42.245 --> 50:50.111 [UNKNOWN]: I think at this point, the people that at least to me look the worst are the wrestlers defending the kid. 50:51.672 --> 50:56.256 [UNKNOWN]: I'm shocked that so many wrestlers are defending the kid. 50:56.276 --> 51:00.899 [UNKNOWN]: Now I understand the motivations behind it and we'll get into that as we talk about it. 51:01.860 --> 51:09.205 [UNKNOWN]: But look, it wasn't just Eric Cannon who we should point out very respected on the Indy scene. 51:12.136 --> 51:29.122 [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, someone who's considered, you know, a good guy and someone respected on the scene and a professional and all those things is worked there in the peak in Diera and and, uh, worked with a lot of your favorites on national TV and all of that and, uh, someone who is considered to do the things the right way. 51:29.822 --> 51:35.264 [UNKNOWN]: Now, it wasn't just him with his tweet saying that the kid wouldn't grab some chairs. 51:35.284 --> 51:37.065 [UNKNOWN]: There were other people that worked the show. 51:37.905 --> 51:46.592 [UNKNOWN]: who also jumped in when when can and started getting dogpiled by a lot of the ignorant types on Twitter fans that don't know what they're talking about things like that people. 51:47.173 --> 51:49.174 [UNKNOWN]: This became a tribalist issue like everything. 51:49.234 --> 51:49.554 [UNKNOWN]: No. 51:50.135 --> 51:50.575 [UNKNOWN]: No way. 51:50.715 --> 51:54.298 [UNKNOWN]: AJ Styles, you know, being WWE and 51:55.419 --> 52:09.330 [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, so it became that of like everything else, but um, you know, if you wait through a lot of that shit, there were other people who worked the show who said, yeah, the kid was, uh, you know, it was just respectful all night. 52:09.370 --> 52:18.938 [UNKNOWN]: He was working out in the ring and when we were ready to open doors and we

asked him to get out of the ring because we want to let the fans in and we had a hard time getting them out of the ring just so we could open the doors. 52:19.699 --> 52:22.701 [UNKNOWN]: There was another person who I think was a photographer working to show that 52:25.574 --> 52:35.783 [UNKNOWN]: Again, he was very disrespectfully spent half the night back in some shed, you know, vaping, even after Canon had asked him to help out, like, you know, and after he refused. 52:35.843 --> 52:40.627 [UNKNOWN]: And, and, and then was asking for free promo picks and things like that. 52:40.687 --> 52:44.451 [UNKNOWN]: So it look, it sounds like the kids behavior, at least on this night was not good. 52:45.152 --> 52:53.059 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, say he comes across with the way that these people are describing his behavior that night as an entitled little prick. 52:53.700 --> 53:01.767 [UNKNOWN]: As a lot of 19-year-olds who grow up rich and whose dads are international wrestling stars, probably also would be in that position. 53:02.367 --> 53:10.794 [UNKNOWN]: The difference is I'm not absolving him because his dad was an international wrestling superstar and he grew up in it and it seems to me that too many people 53:11.695 --> 53:13.816 [UNKNOWN]: are absolving him on that premise. 53:14.517 --> 53:32.707 [UNKNOWN]: And that I don't agree with or believe in, I think that if you're a 19 year old kid who's worked under five matches and you're just sitting around and one of the people running the show says, hey man, could you help us grab some chairs? 53:33.766 --> 53:35.448 [UNKNOWN]: I think you just grab some fucking chairs. 53:36.188 --> 53:50.162 [UNKNOWN]: I think you just do the right thing and you be respectful and you do what everybody else is doing and grab three or four chairs as a token gesture at worst and stack them up, what's the big deal? 53:51.523 --> 53:51.984 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't, 53:53.516 --> 53:59.658 [UNKNOWN]: what's the harm with doing the right thing and that's the right thing to do in that situation to look like you're a team player. 53:59.738 --> 54:01.078 [UNKNOWN]: It should be a second nature to be honest. 54:01.098 --> 54:02.099 [UNKNOWN]: You're willing to help out. 54:02.119 --> 54:03.379 [UNKNOWN]: Just be a good person. 54:03.619 --> 54:05.600 [UNKNOWN]: What's so hard about being a good person? 54:06.540 --> 54:11.181 [UNKNOWN]: But then you see the way his father responded to this and you're like, oh, okay, now I understand. 54:12.122 --> 54:16.303 [UNKNOWN]: Because AJ Styles, his responses to this thing have been awful. 54:17.219 --> 54:18.920 [UNKNOWN]: and it doesn't reflect well on AJ. 54:19.920 --> 54:23.602 [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, AJ comes across terrible. 54:23.622 --> 54:25.382 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's not paid, he's paid the rest of it. 54:25.683 --> 54:26.963 [UNKNOWN]: He's not paid the grab chairs. 54:27.023 --> 54:28.484 [UNKNOWN]: It's just such an eye roll. 54:29.324 --> 54:32.245 [UNKNOWN]: You know, everyone's helping out, chipping in, grab a fucking chair. 54:32.846 --> 54:34.006 [UNKNOWN]: What's the big deal? 54:34.926 --> 54:39.988 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's just especially when you're that young and you're that inexperienced. 54:41.289 --> 54:42.409 [UNKNOWN]: I don't see the problem. 54:42.490 --> 54:42.930 [UNKNOWN]: I heard, 54:44.520 --> 54:53.750 [UNKNOWN]: I heard Brian Alvarez talking about this with Dave Meltzer, and he said, you know, I have a booking coming up next weekend, and I'm not going there expecting to set up and tear down. 54:54.631 --> 54:54.851 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 54:54.971 --> 54:57.013 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going there expecting to set up the chairs. 54:57.654 --> 55:01.018 [UNKNOWN]: But if the promoter asks me to help out, I'm going to help. 55:02.570 --> 55:03.971 [UNKNOWN]: And that's really what it comes down to. 55:04.231 --> 55:07.152 [UNKNOWN]: Like Brian Alvarez has been in the business for 30 plus years. 55:07.952 --> 55:10.953 [UNKNOWN]: He's not being flown in expecting to set up the ring. 55:11.774 --> 55:14.855 [UNKNOWN]: But if someone asks you for help, it's just polite to help. 55:16.455 --> 55:22.618 [UNKNOWN]: Even setting aside the expectations and the traditions and all of it, even if you don't want to factor any of that in. 55:23.953 --> 55:28.877 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, it's just polite if somebody has to help out with something to just help them out. 55:29.558 --> 55:39.846 [UNKNOWN]: So I don't understand just on that base level why the kid had to be so standoffish and flat out refuse and how on earth anyone can defend that. 55:40.627 --> 55:41.668 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't add up to me. 55:42.469 --> 55:45.511 [UNKNOWN]: I just don't think it's a big deal to grab a couple chairs and stack them up. 55:46.712 --> 55:47.973 [UNKNOWN]: At least put in a token effort. 55:48.173 --> 55:51.396 [UNKNOWN]: Make it look like you're trying to be part of the team. 55:51.876 --> 55:52.477 [UNKNOWN]: What do you think? 55:53.055 --> 55:54.895 [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm 100% with you on that. 55:54.916 --> 55:56.376 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think it should be second nature. 55:56.396 --> 55:57.476 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's second nature to me. 55:57.516 --> 56:06.839 [UNKNOWN]: And I think it's second nature to a lot of people to just, you know, if I'm at a party at a friend's house or whatever, and I'm there as the party is ending, I'm helping grab some stuff. 56:06.859 --> 56:07.939 [UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm not afraid to be on the screen. 56:07.959 --> 56:09.059 [UNKNOWN]: He's not on the screen. 56:09.079 --> 56:10.480 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's not on the screen. 56:10.500 --> 56:12.200 [UNKNOWN]: He may help me, he made that, yeah. 56:12.420 --> 56:16.301 [UNKNOWN]: He made that exact analogy, which I thought was a dumb thing to say. 56:16.321 --> 56:19.502 [UNKNOWN]: He said, if I get invited to your house for dinner, I'm not going to do the dishes. 56:20.535 --> 56:23.496 [UNKNOWN]: I listen, AJ, the first of all, it's a horrible

analogy. 56:23.796 --> 56:25.036 [UNKNOWN]: It's not even apples to apples. 56:25.096 --> 56:25.316 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 56:26.056 --> 56:28.257 [UNKNOWN]: Second of all, I just talked about my in-laws. 56:28.797 --> 56:33.038 [UNKNOWN]: Every time I go over there for dinner, the first thing I do when we're done is I help her mother and law clean up. 56:33.058 --> 56:33.378 [UNKNOWN]: Of course. 56:33.918 --> 56:40.040 [UNKNOWN]: And then we play the same game where she goes, oh, stop it, sit down, don't help me, and it's like, it's a whole bit at that point. 56:40.360 --> 56:40.860 [UNKNOWN]: But I offer. 56:41.540 --> 56:44.563 [UNKNOWN]: And I usually just don't listen to her and I say, and I help her anyway. 56:44.943 --> 56:45.384 [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean? 56:45.764 --> 56:47.325 [UNKNOWN]: Because it's just the right thing to do. 56:47.386 --> 56:48.386 [UNKNOWN]: I'm always collecting plates. 56:48.447 --> 56:54.612 [UNKNOWN]: If I'm at the end laws or whatever, if I'm at a party, I have to play hanging around, I'll collect the plates, especially at the end of the party. 56:54.632 --> 56:58.376 [UNKNOWN]: If it's still like in the midst of the part, I'm not cleaning things up in the bit of a party, but like, yeah. 56:58.956 --> 57:06.599 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if you're at a dinner, if you're at like someone's house for dinner or whatever, yeah, when dinner's done up that grabbing my plate I'm hey anybody you don't know grab your play. 57:06.619 --> 57:12.501 [UNKNOWN]: I'll grab five plates and bring them to the you know and all offer to clean them and yeah Sometimes, you know like you said you'll get the oh, no, no, no, no, no, you're fine. 57:12.541 --> 57:13.881 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's fine No, it's no problem. 57:13.901 --> 57:19.203 [UNKNOWN]: Sometimes you're power through and sometimes you don't yeah, and you know me I then joke around and banter about it 57:19.303 --> 57:38.456 [UNKNOWN]: you know it's it but it's like I'm not going to watch this woman run around like a chicken went out ahead do everything she invited me over I she fed me a meal she entertained me I at least I could do is pick up my fucking plate so what is AJ Styles even talking about yeah well again it you understand now his mindset and why his child has the same mindset right and you know one thing that that I was 57:39.473 --> 57:44.555 [UNKNOWN]: because to me, that's just like second nature at an indie show that you, you know, help pick up some charity, help do some stuff. 57:44.575 --> 57:55.540 [UNKNOWN]: You, and I think what I would really bothered me this week was seeing how many people were making this, this big giant, well, that's not, you know, you should pay extra. 57:55.580 --> 57:55.760 [UNKNOWN]: Like, 57:56.180 --> 57:57.101 [UNKNOWN]: Such an iron guy. 57:57.181 --> 57:59.262 [UNKNOWN]: It's just it's fucking pick up five chairs. 57:59.282 --> 58:19.294 [UNKNOWN]: They're not asking the guy to build a whole fucking ring by himself They're not the rest

of the blockrooms not gonna sit there with their armistros and say pay your dues kid Build the ring and hand them a wrench and sit there and and and you know yell at him while he's not building the ring right They just asked him pick up some fucking chairs like it's not like No, he's not being paid like if they want extra labor They should pay for that labor. 58:19.314 --> 58:22.035 [UNKNOWN]: It's like oh God like these are guys. 58:22.075 --> 58:23.016 [UNKNOWN]: These are coal miners 58:23.996 --> 58:24.896 [UNKNOWN]: You're not sure. 58:24.936 --> 58:26.617 [UNKNOWN]: You're not fighting for the auto union. 58:26.817 --> 58:30.678 [UNKNOWN]: They're pretty like, it's an independent wrestling. 58:30.718 --> 58:32.878 [UNKNOWN]: Put down the fucking Marxist handbook. 58:32.958 --> 58:36.999 [UNKNOWN]: It's an independent wrestling show where nobody makes any money. 58:37.699 --> 58:39.080 [UNKNOWN]: The promoters don't make any money. 58:39.100 --> 58:43.341 [UNKNOWN]: The promoters absolutely losing money most likely on the day is making an ATM run. 58:43.361 --> 58:44.041 [UNKNOWN]: The pay people. 58:44.721 --> 58:48.582 [UNKNOWN]: The guys who owns the building is probably the only person making any substantial amount of money on that day. 58:48.940 --> 58:50.862 [UNKNOWN]: It's a team effort to put the show on. 58:51.202 --> 58:51.702 [UNKNOWN]: That's all. 58:52.243 --> 58:53.003 [UNKNOWN]: It's a team effort. 58:53.023 --> 58:53.784 [UNKNOWN]: Everyone helps out. 58:53.804 --> 58:54.825 [UNKNOWN]: You put the show on. 58:54.925 --> 59:01.410 [UNKNOWN]: It's just the way it's done, especially when you're 19 years old, and you've had under 10 matches, and you're nobody. 59:01.811 --> 59:03.392 [UNKNOWN]: Like people have been waiting for it. 59:03.652 --> 59:04.773 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, people have a quit. 59:04.793 --> 59:13.841 [UNKNOWN]: I saw a lot of these ridiculous comparisons to like, well, there's anacquainted business and paying your dues and like, the handshakes and like, an hazing, and I'm like, 59:14.281 --> 59:14.801 [UNKNOWN]: It's chair. 59:14.961 --> 59:15.502 [UNKNOWN]: There he is. 59:15.522 --> 59:16.202 [UNKNOWN]: Good haze. 59:16.282 --> 59:20.683 [UNKNOWN]: Like, like, let's please not globalize this and the fucking hazing in my hand. 59:20.764 --> 59:21.184 [UNKNOWN]: Amazing. 59:21.204 --> 59:23.665 [UNKNOWN]: They didn't tape him to a gold post in front of him. 59:23.705 --> 59:25.825 [UNKNOWN]: They said, they asked him to grab a chair. 59:26.306 --> 59:27.326 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, get out of here. 59:27.346 --> 59:27.966 [UNKNOWN]: Get out of here. 59:27.986 --> 59:30.387 [UNKNOWN]: So we could start the show and get you pick up a chair too. 59:30.427 --> 59:32.068 [UNKNOWN]: That, I mean, that's really not that fun. 59:32.088 --> 59:32.768 [UNKNOWN]: Get out of the ring. 59:32.788 --> 59:36.710 [UNKNOWN]: We want to open the doors and not break K-Fab and can you grab a chair? 59:36.730 --> 59:37.690 [UNKNOWN]: That's not hazing. 59:39.309 --> 59:40.469 [UNKNOWN]: Get your nose out of your mouth. 59:40.489 --> 59:42.050 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not exaggerating his labor. 59:42.370 --> 59:43.210 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not exaggerating. 59:43.250 --> 59:44.010 [UNKNOWN]: I'm exaggerating. 59:44.050 --> 59:46.651 [UNKNOWN]: You are my, I always use this example. 59:46.791 --> 59:47.811 [UNKNOWN]: Is it the babysitting thing? 59:48.231 --> 59:56.233 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, the story, this one, the worst one I ever saw on it was like, like, this woman was honestly perplexed. 59:56.773 --> 01:00:06.375 [UNKNOWN]: She said, am I wrong to refuse to watch my sister's baby, her niece or nephew, by the way. 01:00:07.601 --> 01:00:11.922 [UNKNOWN]: while my sister takes a shower, because I see it as unpaid labor. 01:00:13.923 --> 01:00:19.044 [UNKNOWN]: Like, if you have that kind of attitude, I can't be around you. 01:00:19.244 --> 01:00:21.564 [UNKNOWN]: Like, what kind of human has that kind of attitude? 01:00:22.085 --> 01:00:23.445 [UNKNOWN]: We know you may not shower. 01:00:23.465 --> 01:00:24.425 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not watching your knees. 01:00:24.925 --> 01:00:30.026 [UNKNOWN]: Where you see watching your own knees for 10 minutes while your sister takes a shower. 01:00:30.227 --> 01:00:32.227 [UNKNOWN]: As potentially a situation. 01:00:32.587 --> 01:00:33.587 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, come on. 01:00:34.428 --> 01:00:35.648 [UNKNOWN]: You're not a serious person. 01:00:36.833 --> 01:00:40.454 [UNKNOWN]: That's the kind of person who would say, oh, it's unpaid labor to stack up a chair. 01:00:40.514 --> 01:00:41.915 [UNKNOWN]: And that's the same kind of person. 01:00:42.295 --> 01:00:43.795 [UNKNOWN]: And to me, that's not a serious human. 01:00:44.115 --> 01:00:45.256 [UNKNOWN]: Like you're not a serious human. 01:00:46.276 --> 01:00:52.818 [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, it's disturbing to me, like you see where the kid gets the attitude. 01:00:52.898 --> 01:00:55.419 [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, like people will say, oh, well, AJ is going to defend his son. 01:00:56.019 --> 01:00:58.920 [UNKNOWN]: So he's going to say any outlandish thing. 01:00:59.100 --> 01:00:59.960 [UNKNOWN]: I don't agree with that. 01:01:00.500 --> 01:01:05.382 [UNKNOWN]: I can tell you definitively, if that was my kid, okay? 01:01:06.390 --> 01:01:08.953 [UNKNOWN]: I would not have said anything publicly in response. 01:01:09.073 --> 01:01:11.375 [UNKNOWN]: I may have reached out to Eric Cannon privately. 01:01:11.695 --> 01:01:11.935 [UNKNOWN]: Sure. 01:01:12.516 --> 01:01:14.318 [UNKNOWN]: And said, hey, what's going on with my kid? 01:01:14.958 --> 01:01:16.340 [UNKNOWN]: But I'll tell you the other thing I would have done. 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.161 [UNKNOWN]: I would have sat my kid down. 01:01:18.522 --> 01:01:19.883 [UNKNOWN]: And I would have said the next show you work. 01:01:19.903 --> 01:01:21.324 [UNKNOWN]: You better grab some fucking chairs. 01:01:22.505 --> 01:01:23.727 [UNKNOWN]: Or I'm going to give you a

wrap in a mouth. 01:01:23.747 --> 01:01:24.347 [UNKNOWN]: What are you doing? 01:01:25.408 --> 01:01:26.389 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you wouldn't have come on. 01:01:26.429 --> 01:01:27.050 [UNKNOWN]: Be respectful. 01:01:28.116 --> 01:01:29.016 [UNKNOWN]: Grab some chairs, man. 01:01:29.036 --> 01:01:32.958 [UNKNOWN]: I respect the business, respect the history of this business, or whatever, grab some fucking chairs. 01:01:32.978 --> 01:01:33.158 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:01:33.238 --> 01:01:34.158 [UNKNOWN]: Grab some chairs. 01:01:34.558 --> 01:01:39.100 [UNKNOWN]: Be respectful, don't make an asshole yourself and pick up a reputation. 01:01:39.180 --> 01:01:40.741 [UNKNOWN]: Even if you're just doing it for that reason. 01:01:41.581 --> 01:01:44.342 [UNKNOWN]: If someone asks you to help out, just help out a little. 01:01:44.522 --> 01:01:45.342 [UNKNOWN]: It's not a big deal. 01:01:46.003 --> 01:01:47.103 [UNKNOWN]: And I didn't raise you like that. 01:01:47.523 --> 01:01:50.104 [UNKNOWN]: And be respectful, and it's, see, here's the thing, Rich. 01:01:51.365 --> 01:01:54.326 [UNKNOWN]: It's really easy just to do the right thing. 01:01:55.568 --> 01:01:59.693 [UNKNOWN]: You know, and none of us are perfect, and none of us always do the right thing. 01:02:00.254 --> 01:02:02.237 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I'm not being pious, I'm not standing on. 01:02:02.697 --> 01:02:06.803 [UNKNOWN]: I did a wrong thing all the time in embarrassing fashion publicly in the pair. 01:02:07.063 --> 01:02:10.027 [UNKNOWN]: But look, it's not hard to do the right thing. 01:02:10.788 --> 01:02:18.253 [UNKNOWN]: And the right thing in that situation is if the person running the show or the promoter, somebody helping the run the show comes up to you and says, hey, man, you mind grabbing some chairs. 01:02:18.593 --> 01:02:23.557 [UNKNOWN]: The right thing is to put down your phone and say, sure, and grab a couple chairs. 01:02:23.817 --> 01:02:26.419 [UNKNOWN]: And if he would have done that, none of this would have happened. 01:02:27.059 --> 01:02:27.860 [UNKNOWN]: It's very easy. 01:02:28.950 --> 01:02:36.976 [UNKNOWN]: But it's also, we can see that it's his shitty father's attitude, giving him the same shitty attitude. 01:02:37.236 --> 01:02:45.783 [UNKNOWN]: Now, we should note that there was a promoter, I did see a promoter respond, who said that every style's worked his show and was very helpful and did help out. 01:02:46.143 --> 01:02:48.265 [UNKNOWN]: And I think that's fair to put that out there. 01:02:48.445 --> 01:02:53.508 [UNKNOWN]: Sure, because maybe this just was him being a shithead on that night. 01:02:54.049 --> 01:02:56.190 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe he didn't like the way Eric Cannon approached him. 01:02:56.311 --> 01:02:57.111 [UNKNOWN]: I don't fucking know. 01:02:57.351 --> 01:02:57.892 [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't there. 01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:10.122 [UNKNOWN]: But the other corresponding evidence from other people saying, oh, yeah, just guy was a pain in the ass that night, wouldn't get out of the ring, was out back vaping, you know, whatever the fuck, I don't know, man. 01:03:10.343 --> 01:03:12.243 [UNKNOWN]: It seems like the kid just acted shitty that night. 01:03:13.003 --> 01:03:18.564 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not going to tell AJ Styles how to raise his kids, but I'm going to tell you right now, I would have handled it way different. 01:03:18.624 --> 01:03:20.945 [UNKNOWN]: I would have told my kid next time, just grab some chairs. 01:03:21.691 --> 01:03:23.793 [UNKNOWN]: In fact, I'm telling you, you need to grab some chairs like that. 01:03:23.973 --> 01:03:27.997 [UNKNOWN]: Don't make an asshole yourself and don't make an asshole me and just do the right thing. 01:03:28.538 --> 01:03:32.281 [UNKNOWN]: Be a grown-up, be a man, be a man and just do the right thing. 01:03:32.601 --> 01:03:33.923 [UNKNOWN]: I don't understand why that's so hard. 01:03:34.965 --> 01:03:39.506 [UNKNOWN]: So it was just heartening to see a lot of wrestlers coming out and kind of taking the opposite stance. 01:03:39.606 --> 01:03:47.449 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, we were really re-litigating like people putting rings together like, you know, Gabe Sapolsky's out there talking about like the ring crew and ages like, oh yeah, that's right. 01:03:47.469 --> 01:03:50.610 [UNKNOWN]: That's why I never put the ring together or what it's like, what are we doing here? 01:03:50.650 --> 01:03:56.632 [UNKNOWN]: Like again, everybody who's ever been involved in the wrestling knows what the game is and knows, yeah, you set up the chairs. 01:03:57.852 --> 01:04:04.098 [UNKNOWN]: Let me set that up, so Canon tweeted out pictures of Jimmy Hart stacking chairs at fucking 80 years old. 01:04:04.659 --> 01:04:11.085 [UNKNOWN]: Then he tweeted out a picture of Cody Rhodes sweeping up a ring with a broom after a show. 01:04:11.345 --> 01:04:19.833 [UNKNOWN]: To show that, look, this kid's 19 and has done nothing, and here are two of the most famous people involved in pro wrestling over the last 50 years. 01:04:20.738 --> 01:04:48.527 [UNKNOWN]: uh... helping out after a show and jimi heart is the kind of guy where if he started picking up chairs and i was at a show i would say jimi please no no no no no no sit down go home you're good we got it like you you have paid your dues over the last seventy years you do not need to pick up a fucking chair at all we we will handle that you know that i would if i was sitting down doing nothing and jimi heart was putting chairs away i would feel like a fucking asshole i would i would wonder what's wrong with me and i would immediately put my phone down or do whatever i was doing and run over there as quickly as possible 01:04:49.087 --> 01:05:00.040 [UNKNOWN]: and stack up as many chairs and help him or if he wants to help, that's fine, but I would definitely offer, hey, Jimmy, please, you do not need your Jimmy heart, you know, you give me heart, you've graduated from this. 01:05:01.048 --> 01:05:05.291 [UNKNOWN]: Right, and

I listen, I'm not, I think that concept is fair. 01:05:05.471 --> 01:05:08.013 [UNKNOWN]: I think you can graduate from that at some point, right? 01:05:08.233 --> 01:05:10.675 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there was a, you're talking about. 01:05:10.735 --> 01:05:12.216 [UNKNOWN]: He's 19, so let's then 10 matches. 01:05:12.536 --> 01:05:13.056 [UNKNOWN]: Right, right? 01:05:13.316 --> 01:05:16.238 [UNKNOWN]: Like he has graduated and I guess we're going to get to next. 01:05:16.418 --> 01:05:18.220 [UNKNOWN]: No, real quick, you were talking about Brian Alvarez. 01:05:18.240 --> 01:05:22.463 [UNKNOWN]: I remember this story that he told many years ago that he was at an indie show with the Rock and Roll Express. 01:05:23.323 --> 01:05:39.653 [UNKNOWN]: And there was some issue with the ring crew whatever and the promoter was like we got to get out of the building and X amount of time or whatever so he was kind of nervous about getting out of the ring and how they were going to set put the ring down and he said I think it was Morton or I forget which one I forget which one it was but one of the rock and rolls stood up in front of the locker room and said all right guys. 01:05:39.753 --> 01:05:40.153 [UNKNOWN]: come on man. 01:05:40.173 --> 01:05:41.535 [UNKNOWN]: We got to we got to help out. 01:05:41.555 --> 01:05:45.679 [UNKNOWN]: We got a chip in as much as we can to get this ring broken down and get these shares out of here as quickly as possible. 01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.303 [UNKNOWN]: So if everybody could just grab a grab a wrench grab a hammer grab a hammer grab a hammer. 01:05:49.323 --> 01:05:50.745 [UNKNOWN]: We'll get out of here as quickly as possible. 01:05:50.805 --> 01:05:55.210 [UNKNOWN]: And we'll make sure that we don't get any fines or anything for the promoter and everyone's like, all right, yeah, sounds good. 01:05:55.590 --> 01:05:59.575 [UNKNOWN]: And Brian's like, everybody got it and then he's like, we're all working on the right. 01:05:59.595 --> 01:06:00.335 [UNKNOWN]: They're just saying. 01:06:00.916 --> 01:06:20.542 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're watching, that's funny, they've worked them, they've worked the boys and they're breaking down the ring, yeah, that's fun there, but they're legs crossed, you know, just sit there while everyone else is, we're up on the ring now, but here we, the rock and rolls are good, like I wouldn't expect Ricky Morton to grab a wrench and start putting the take in the ring down, but I wouldn't expect. 01:06:21.002 --> 01:06:25.770 [UNKNOWN]: They had the where-a-thall to rally everyone else out though because they know what's going on. 01:06:25.970 --> 01:06:30.899 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like, look, it's independent wrestling, it's fucking, it's hand the mouth. 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.062 [UNKNOWN]: It's, it's a communal thing to begin with. 01:06:33.202 --> 01:06:34.184 [UNKNOWN]: It's, look. 01:06:35.798 --> 01:06:58.488 [UNKNOWN]: It's this whole labor out you're not gonna hire fucking union workers to come in and fucking Well, you can't ever be out of business in seven days when you're in the show And then there are no more Indies and there are no more Indies shows It's it's a group effort to put the show together and it doesn't it's just just to the right thing I just blows my mind that there's any so anyway the Cody tweet 01:06:59.483 --> 01:06:59.743 [UNKNOWN]: of him. 01:07:00.024 --> 01:07:02.066 [UNKNOWN]: So, Cody responds to this and he quote tweets it. 01:07:02.747 --> 01:07:04.429 [UNKNOWN]: And he says, look, no, disrespect Eric. 01:07:05.069 --> 01:07:05.910 [UNKNOWN]: I think he knows him. 01:07:06.050 --> 01:07:07.492 [UNKNOWN]: He probably worked on it. 01:07:07.532 --> 01:07:07.953 [UNKNOWN]: Some point. 01:07:07.973 --> 01:07:08.253 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:07:08.293 --> 01:07:08.453 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:07:08.473 --> 01:07:08.593 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:07:09.234 --> 01:07:13.719 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, basically, the just of his tweet was, I understand what you're saying. 01:07:14.019 --> 01:07:14.280 [UNKNOWN]: But. 01:07:15.723 --> 01:07:29.963 [UNKNOWN]: Avery's a second generation wrestler and I know what it's like to be a second generation wrestler with a father who's out working to put food on the table and it's almost never home and that was kind of the unparafraising it and it's going to find. 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:54.416 [UNKNOWN]: his big line at the end though was he already put up the fucking chairs like oh yeah okay do you want the whole you want to read read people that's okay Eric my friend no shade intended but my outlook every is 19 his father was paying dues and making sacrifices throughout that young man's youth that some people may never understand when you're the family holding down the fort to simplify he already set up the fn shares 01:07:55.744 --> 01:07:57.205 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, peace by peace. 01:07:57.525 --> 01:08:00.947 [UNKNOWN]: The fact that he's 19 is more reason that he should help put up the church. 01:08:01.127 --> 01:08:02.287 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, not less of a reason. 01:08:02.988 --> 01:08:05.409 [UNKNOWN]: Don't absolve him because he's immature. 01:08:05.849 --> 01:08:08.871 [UNKNOWN]: Use it as a teaching moment for the kid to say next time you put up the chairs. 01:08:08.891 --> 01:08:10.892 [UNKNOWN]: Because I expect 19 year olds to do dumb things. 01:08:12.613 --> 01:08:14.974 [UNKNOWN]: The second part is utterly preposterous. 01:08:14.994 --> 01:08:21.538 [UNKNOWN]: The idea that because his father was in the business and that he prudent that he, 01:08:22.798 --> 01:08:26.800 [UNKNOWN]: I guess, proverbially, he already put up the chairs because he already paid his dues. 01:08:27.280 --> 01:08:29.221 [UNKNOWN]: First of all, the kid grew up wealthy. 01:08:29.541 --> 01:08:30.222 [UNKNOWN]: That's number one. 01:08:30.762 --> 01:08:34.784 [UNKNOWN]: So how many dues was he paying growing up in his palatial estate in Georgia? 01:08:35.804 --> 01:08:37.445 [UNKNOWN]: While his

father, yes, was on the road. 01:08:37.645 --> 01:08:40.667 [UNKNOWN]: Do you think pro wrestlers are the only fathers who go on business trips? 01:08:41.307 --> 01:08:48.630 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, can we stop acting like this kid grew up with massive hardships, give me a fucking break, the kid grew up privileged. 01:08:49.030 --> 01:08:53.912 [UNKNOWN]: He grew up so privileged that the only reason he was on this show to begin with is because he grew up privileged. 01:08:54.213 --> 01:08:56.333 [UNKNOWN]: He's not on this show, if his dad isn't who he is. 01:08:56.353 --> 01:09:00.575 [UNKNOWN]: Not on GCW, at 19 years old, with seven matches under his belt of his dad's not AJ Styles. 01:09:00.635 --> 01:09:04.497 [UNKNOWN]: So no, he's gaining privilege from being AJ Styles son, not the opposite, yeah. 01:09:04.817 --> 01:09:09.978 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm sorry, Cody, who we've had plenty of conversations with, and I would say this to him if I had a chance. 01:09:10.138 --> 01:09:10.618 [UNKNOWN]: You're wrong. 01:09:11.238 --> 01:09:12.839 [UNKNOWN]: It's actually the opposite of what you're saying. 01:09:13.099 --> 01:09:17.080 [UNKNOWN]: The fact that he grew up in the business, okay? 01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:20.280 [UNKNOWN]: It's more reason he should know enough to help out with the fucking chairs. 01:09:20.540 --> 01:09:23.961 [UNKNOWN]: The problem is he as his dad telling him he doesn't have to. 01:09:24.181 --> 01:09:26.062 [UNKNOWN]: I can see how that you can see what's going on here. 01:09:26.082 --> 01:09:26.422 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:09:27.262 --> 01:09:30.082 [UNKNOWN]: He's got his dad allowing him to be an entitled brat. 01:09:30.943 --> 01:09:32.283 [UNKNOWN]: And my other response to Cody, 01:09:33.242 --> 01:09:48.237 [UNKNOWN]: would be, and there's a non-zero chance he would hear this, probably zero, but my other response would be, Cody, if you really feel that way, and you feel like if you grew up as a child of the business that you already stacked the fucking chairs, then why did you have that broom in your hand? 01:09:49.138 --> 01:09:51.020 [UNKNOWN]: Why were you sweeping up that ring in that picture? 01:09:51.861 --> 01:09:52.742 [UNKNOWN]: You know why Cody? 01:09:53.002 --> 01:09:55.945 [UNKNOWN]: Because you knew it was the right thing to do. 01:09:56.954 --> 01:09:59.075 [UNKNOWN]: It is not hard to do the right thing. 01:09:59.155 --> 01:10:00.356 [UNKNOWN]: Well, and there was so many stories. 01:10:00.376 --> 01:10:03.158 [UNKNOWN]: Remember when Cody left WWE, it was back on the end. 01:10:03.178 --> 01:10:12.283 [UNKNOWN]: There was many stories about Cody being very helpful and buying stuff and buying food for guys and going to these shows and being very nice and helping out as much as he possibly could. 01:10:12.323 --> 01:10:14.764 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, ordering pizzas for the whole locker room and stuff. 01:10:14.784 --> 01:10:17.186 [UNKNOWN]: So he's talking on both sides of his mouth here. 01:10:17.206 --> 01:10:18.406 [UNKNOWN]: He's talking on both sides of his mouth. 01:10:18.446 --> 01:10:18.626 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:10:18.666 --> 01:10:19.767 [UNKNOWN]: He knows. 01:10:19.787 --> 01:10:20.808 [UNKNOWN]: He deep down a few S code. 01:10:20.828 --> 01:10:23.589 [UNKNOWN]: If you put truth serum and Cody, he would say, yeah, he should have probably. 01:10:23.609 --> 01:10:23.729 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:10:23.749 --> 01:10:24.470 [UNKNOWN]: I can't talk in chairs. 01:10:24.550 --> 01:10:24.730 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:10:25.170 --> 01:10:32.038 [UNKNOWN]: You know how we know this cuz he's he's sweeping up the fucking ring Post WWE run first WWE run. 01:10:32.058 --> 01:10:35.982 [UNKNOWN]: He's sweeping up the fucking ring So you know 01:10:37.106 --> 01:10:44.969 [UNKNOWN]: Obviously he gets it, and if your father was in the business, you should get it more than the standard 19-year-olds in the last moment. 01:10:44.989 --> 01:10:45.170 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:10:45.290 --> 01:10:50.732 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, just innate in you at that point because, yeah, like you said, you're father-in-law. 01:10:50.792 --> 01:10:51.652 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:10:51.692 --> 01:10:52.953 [UNKNOWN]: And grain is the word I was looking for, yeah. 01:10:53.173 --> 01:10:53.793 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's it. 01:10:53.813 --> 01:11:04.438 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're already being grained in you because you should understand how the business works and how independent wrestling is a zero margin operation and that everybody chips in. 01:11:06.014 --> 01:11:09.075 [UNKNOWN]: It's not hazing, it's not exploitation of labor. 01:11:09.336 --> 01:11:10.136 [UNKNOWN]: Get serious. 01:11:10.896 --> 01:11:12.857 [UNKNOWN]: You're not serious if you're saying those things. 01:11:15.058 --> 01:11:19.300 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, and I saw some independent wrestlers chime into. 01:11:19.980 --> 01:11:23.042 [UNKNOWN]: Specifically, Ben Bishop, who chimes in on every card, some reason. 01:11:24.160 --> 01:11:31.847 [UNKNOWN]: And Shazam McKenzie was the other one, and they both are going to paraphrase both of them, and they both made the same basic point in that they said they saw both sides of it. 01:11:32.468 --> 01:11:35.671 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you should probably help out at the show. 01:11:36.191 --> 01:11:43.118 [UNKNOWN]: Then Bishop astutely pointed out, I thought, that he's like, but let's be honest, the only reason most people are helping out is because they want to get booked again. 01:11:43.767 --> 01:11:44.688 [UNKNOWN]: And I think that's fair. 01:11:45.248 --> 01:11:49.551 [UNKNOWN]: I look, the motivations, who want, nobody, it's like the brain. 01:11:49.571 --> 01:11:50.972 [UNKNOWN]: Nobody wants the bomb shares. 01:11:51.012 --> 01:11:52.432 [UNKNOWN]: You're just doing it to, you know. 01:11:52.713 --> 01:11:58.896 [UNKNOWN]: It's that scene from the breakup with Vince Vaughn in Jennifer Aniston, where she's like, I want you to want to do the dishes. 01:11:59.036 --> 01:12:01.058

[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, nobody wants to do it. 01:12:01.138 --> 01:12:01.738 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:12:02.158 --> 01:12:04.240 [UNKNOWN]: Like, like, you know what I mean? 01:12:04.280 --> 01:12:04.960 [UNKNOWN]: You're in a lot. 01:12:04.980 --> 01:12:05.600 [UNKNOWN]: You're in a lot. 01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:07.442 [UNKNOWN]: I can't not wait to do those fucking dishes. 01:12:07.482 --> 01:12:08.122 [UNKNOWN]: No, you're doing it. 01:12:08.142 --> 01:12:09.203 [UNKNOWN]: Because it's the right thing to do. 01:12:13.225 --> 01:12:23.392 [UNKNOWN]: And but where they both lost me, where they both lost me was, well, but when you're a fly-in and you're they're bringing you in as a special talent. 01:12:23.472 --> 01:12:24.633 [UNKNOWN]: Hold on, the kid is 19. 01:12:24.973 --> 01:12:26.655 [UNKNOWN]: I don't give a shit if he came from Siberia. 01:12:27.715 --> 01:12:38.083 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, and the other point McKenzie made was, oh well, he's got his AJ style, Sonny is such a pressure on him to perform in a legacy to live up to. 01:12:38.543 --> 01:12:40.925 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not moved by any of that because again, 01:12:42.366 --> 01:12:44.507 [UNKNOWN]: Listen, that knife cuts both ways. 01:12:45.088 --> 01:12:47.009 [UNKNOWN]: He's only on that show because he's AJ's. 01:12:47.029 --> 01:12:49.050 [UNKNOWN]: He's only getting flown in because he's AJ's son. 01:12:49.090 --> 01:12:51.232 [UNKNOWN]: And he's only getting flown in because he's AJ's son. 01:12:51.812 --> 01:12:54.874 [UNKNOWN]: So, tough shit if there's a little extra pressure. 01:12:56.054 --> 01:12:58.416 [UNKNOWN]: You can't tell me that you still can't grab a couple chairs. 01:12:58.776 --> 01:13:00.277 [UNKNOWN]: If there's too much pressure, you could still run. 01:13:00.397 --> 01:13:02.859 [UNKNOWN]: You could still work, Rinky Degindi's in Georgia for the next three years. 01:13:02.919 --> 01:13:03.599 [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely. 01:13:03.779 --> 01:13:06.501 [UNKNOWN]: And then go to G7 when you're 22 and earn it on your own right. 01:13:06.581 --> 01:13:09.523 [UNKNOWN]: And not, you know, get GCW booking seven matches in your career. 01:13:09.947 --> 01:13:10.327 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 01:13:10.628 --> 01:13:14.751 [UNKNOWN]: You don't want the pressure of high level indie bookings that pay actual money. 01:13:15.252 --> 01:13:22.298 [UNKNOWN]: No one's stopping you from working in front of 12 people and the fucking, you know, swaps the store, you know, swaps the door. 01:13:22.318 --> 01:13:22.738 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:23.419 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:13:24.240 --> 01:13:29.184 [UNKNOWN]: So that means not, you know, but here's the thing with the indie wrestlers like Bishop and Mackenzie. 01:13:30.383 --> 01:13:40.622 [UNKNOWN]: They want to support Canon in some way, but they also know they're going to have to share a locker room with this kid, and they also know they don't want to talk badly about AJ Styles kid. 01:13:41.383 --> 01:13:42.365 [UNKNOWN]: It's awkward

for them. 01:13:43.470 --> 01:13:45.652 [UNKNOWN]: So you could always choose to say nothing. 01:13:46.372 --> 01:13:47.553 [UNKNOWN]: That's always an option. 01:13:47.934 --> 01:13:52.398 [UNKNOWN]: You don't have to say a word, but they want to play both ends of the spectrum here. 01:13:52.438 --> 01:13:56.281 [UNKNOWN]: They want to say, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's right, grab your chair, but then again, he used Avery Styles. 01:13:56.701 --> 01:14:02.926 [UNKNOWN]: This whole idea that it means something that he's Avery Styles really annoys me and has annoyed me all week. 01:14:04.067 --> 01:14:06.870 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we understand who his dad is, but it's like, 01:14:07.897 --> 01:14:32.020 [UNKNOWN]: that absolves him from well here's the thing like it and and I think you kind of mentioned this a little bit earlier if anything because there's all those eyes on you and all that pressure on you it's even more reason just let people think that you're one of the guys it's more reason yes to pick up one of those shares and not bring that attention and that pressure and that you know because by sitting there and vaping while everybody else is putting the ring together people are saying what's with this fucking inside a little prick over here 01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:37.802 [UNKNOWN]: Just pick up some fucking chairs and no, and then no one will say anything, but you're already there's already Trust me. 01:14:38.122 --> 01:14:48.006 [UNKNOWN]: There's already guys that are sharing locker rooms with this kid saying I can't believe this guys are already getting GW bookings and and in the, you know, major indie bookings getting fine around the card to overcome that don't Right, you made it. 01:14:48.146 --> 01:14:48.826 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly. 01:14:48.846 --> 01:14:51.807 [UNKNOWN]: It's even harder than to and so the easiest thing to do is 01:14:53.293 --> 01:15:02.558 [UNKNOWN]: around the locker room introduce yourself take up some shares do as much as you can to let people say hey, you know what I had the wrong idea about this Kid he's actually pretty good guy, you know, I you know what yeah, it's fine. 01:15:02.578 --> 01:15:06.581 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's AJ's kid and so he's getting some extra privileges because of that But you know what he's a pretty good kid. 01:15:06.601 --> 01:15:07.241 [UNKNOWN]: He was nice enough. 01:15:07.261 --> 01:15:16.727 [UNKNOWN]: We're that that's so easy to do and so I just do but it's if it makes it so much worse If you sit and and pretend I'll I'm flown in and I may just I was kids so I'm not touching a fucking 01:15:17.559 --> 01:15:21.241 [UNKNOWN]: thing until my time, you know, in the ring, and then I'm leaving and then it's all up to you. 01:15:21.261 --> 01:15:26.343 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that is only going to incite more people to side I you and think, ah, this fucking little prick over here. 01:15:26.443 --> 01:15:33.907 [UNKNOWN]: So, so that's the opposite of what you should do and people are seemingly, I don't know why people seem to think that that like, can you imagine in your real life like if it would you ever? 01:15:34.767 --> 01:15:40.412 [UNKNOWN]: Like the coaches son, think of this in the in the context of a high school football team and the coaches son is the quarterback. 01:15:41.053 --> 01:15:44.236 [UNKNOWN]: If he didn't have to go to practice because, oh, that's the coach son and he's the quarterback. 01:15:44.596 --> 01:15:47.319 [UNKNOWN]: Nobody would say, oh, well, I mean, I understand it's the coach son. 01:15:47.339 --> 01:15:48.620 [UNKNOWN]: So you shouldn't have to go to practice. 01:15:48.900 --> 01:15:49.861 [UNKNOWN]: It's really hot today. 01:15:49.921 --> 01:15:51.583 [UNKNOWN]: So of course, he shouldn't practice. 01:15:51.603 --> 01:15:52.804 [UNKNOWN]: He's the coaches son or whatever. 01:15:53.084 --> 01:15:54.005 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that would be insane. 01:15:54.025 --> 01:15:55.186 [UNKNOWN]: That would not fly. 01:15:55.226 --> 01:15:57.968 [UNKNOWN]: It would be ridiculed and everybody would hate that kid. 01:15:58.249 --> 01:15:59.410 [UNKNOWN]: And they would hit the fucking coach. 01:15:59.770 --> 01:16:03.511 [UNKNOWN]: for treating his kid like a little, you know, baby, like that wouldn't, that would not fly. 01:16:03.771 --> 01:16:22.555 [UNKNOWN]: That would be seen as, and that's kind of what, I guess, other indie wrestlers are trying to, you know, not at one to one, you know, apples, apples comparison there, but again, like the idea that this is okay, because your father is aged styles to not, I don't understand, my brain can't even comprehend. 01:16:23.215 --> 01:16:26.537 [UNKNOWN]: How that could possibly Well, it'll be rational. 01:16:26.717 --> 01:16:28.678 [UNKNOWN]: Again, to me, this all comes down to AJ Styles. 01:16:28.919 --> 01:16:32.041 [UNKNOWN]: If he was instilling the proper values in this kid, this wouldn't be an issue. 01:16:32.201 --> 01:16:33.722 [UNKNOWN]: Well, him saying, right there. 01:16:33.742 --> 01:16:36.083 [UNKNOWN]: You don't invite me to your dinner and I'm not going to do your dishes or whatever. 01:16:36.103 --> 01:16:37.424 [UNKNOWN]: Let's you know all you need to know about the guy. 01:16:37.584 --> 01:16:40.506 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're paying me to wrestle, not stacked chairs. 01:16:40.746 --> 01:16:42.527 [UNKNOWN]: It makes my stomach turn and he said that. 01:16:42.607 --> 01:16:43.408 [UNKNOWN]: That's just so gross. 01:16:44.168 --> 01:16:45.109 [UNKNOWN]: that's not how you handle it. 01:16:45.509 --> 01:16:47.790 [UNKNOWN]: Even if you think that's true, that's not how you handle it. 01:16:48.090 --> 01:16:48.811 [UNKNOWN]: Now I will say this. 01:16:49.211 --> 01:16:51.492 [UNKNOWN]: Should Eric Cannon have publicly blasted the kid up? 01:16:51.512 --> 01:16:52.012 [UNKNOWN]: Probably not. 01:16:52.553 --> 01:16:54.794 [UNKNOWN]: Probably not, but I understand why he did. 01:16:55.414 --> 01:17:01.898 [UNKNOWN]: Because he saw a nanny

praising this kid for paying dues and he probably saw that tweet and said, oh, what the fuck? 01:17:02.318 --> 01:17:07.421 [UNKNOWN]: This kid did the opposite of paid dues when I worked with him and he got his Twitter fingers out and he did it. 01:17:07.801 --> 01:17:10.763 [UNKNOWN]: Now that's probably a situation where you type out the tweet, 01:17:12.036 --> 01:17:19.401 [UNKNOWN]: pull out your, you know, pull out your phone, put the top five minute timer on and see how you feel five minutes from then before you send it out, right? 01:17:19.661 --> 01:17:22.823 [UNKNOWN]: And then maybe you think better of it and go, I'm not, it's just not worth it. 01:17:23.884 --> 01:17:30.809 [UNKNOWN]: But I could see why he felt compelled to push back on that because this kid was such a little shit at the show that he couldn't take it. 01:17:31.909 --> 01:17:33.891 [UNKNOWN]: But yes, he probably shouldn't have done that. 01:17:34.171 --> 01:17:39.935 [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, if Every styles would have grabbed the chair too, there's nothing to tweet about. 01:17:41.398 --> 01:17:45.481 [UNKNOWN]: Then Eric Cannon has nothing to tweet about if he just wanted to fucking grab the chair. 01:17:46.422 --> 01:17:50.906 [UNKNOWN]: No one's asking him to set the whole ring up or break the whole ring down or you fucking, you know, just grab the chair. 01:17:51.786 --> 01:17:53.188 [UNKNOWN]: Then we're not here to begin with. 01:17:54.188 --> 01:18:01.815 [UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I am to me the person who comes across worst by a mile in this is AJ Styles. 01:18:01.935 --> 01:18:08.140 [UNKNOWN]: I lost a lot of respect for AJ Styles with the way- Yeah, I always thought of him as a little bit smarter guy, 01:18:11.217 --> 01:18:14.298 [UNKNOWN]: You thought of him as a, you thought of AJ Styles as a smarter guy. 01:18:14.318 --> 01:18:18.259 [UNKNOWN]: That I thought of him as a guy who smarter in the wrestling smart. 01:18:18.299 --> 01:18:19.440 [UNKNOWN]: It's exciting. 01:18:19.460 --> 01:18:21.380 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's like a savant or anything. 01:18:21.420 --> 01:18:24.021 [UNKNOWN]: But I thought a guy who understood the fucking business. 01:18:24.541 --> 01:18:24.761 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:18:25.201 --> 01:18:32.604 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I understood wrestling and would understand how that could possibly look and just yeah, it's, it's, 01:18:35.145 --> 01:18:39.988 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I saw him, did you see Moose's tweets and people are talking about Moose's tweet with another of the best and brightest. 01:18:40.048 --> 01:18:41.108 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, there we go. 01:18:41.268 --> 01:18:41.689 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 01:18:41.749 --> 01:18:42.529 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I did see this one. 01:18:42.549 --> 01:18:42.729 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:18:42.749 --> 01:18:44.030 [UNKNOWN]: It says quote, bro relax. 01:18:44.090 --> 01:18:44.950 [UNKNOWN]: It's an indie show. 01:18:45.291 --> 01:18:47.552 [UNKNOWN]: The whole payer do is in an indie show thing is dumb. 01:18:47.932 --> 01:18:48.412 [UNKNOWN]: Different story. 01:18:48.432 --> 01:18:51.774 [UNKNOWN]: If this was a TV company, we're talking about a freaking indie show. 01:18:52.094 --> 01:18:58.438 [UNKNOWN]: A 20 year indie show that giving advice to the kid is one of the greatest to do it in any professional level is kind of laughable. 01:18:59.817 --> 01:19:01.781 [UNKNOWN]: What does he mean is different if it's a TV company? 01:19:01.821 --> 01:19:03.043 [UNKNOWN]: Nobody sets up the ring yet. 01:19:03.063 --> 01:19:03.864 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's the opposite. 01:19:04.466 --> 01:19:05.868 [UNKNOWN]: Steven, let's hear you. 01:19:05.888 --> 01:19:07.772 [UNKNOWN]: They can afford a crew to do that. 01:19:09.104 --> 01:19:11.165 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's just not, it's, I mean, it's a boost. 01:19:11.185 --> 01:19:13.966 [UNKNOWN]: What do you want me to do? 01:19:14.006 --> 01:19:14.366 [UNKNOWN]: I lost. 01:19:14.406 --> 01:19:14.666 [UNKNOWN]: I lost. 01:19:14.726 --> 01:19:15.946 [UNKNOWN]: Cares a boost, y'all, moose. 01:19:17.467 --> 01:19:24.429 [UNKNOWN]: I would never, yeah, exactly the thing, like you're saying, if it's a TV company, they probably have union guys that are putting the fucking ring together and set the chairs up. 01:19:24.449 --> 01:19:26.050 [UNKNOWN]: That's even more, you don't have to do that. 01:19:26.610 --> 01:19:27.330 [UNKNOWN]: People are being paid. 01:19:27.430 --> 01:19:29.491 [UNKNOWN]: A salary to put the chairs up, they're fine. 01:19:29.991 --> 01:19:33.832 [UNKNOWN]: By the way, people on high level shows help out, too. 01:19:34.533 --> 01:19:35.433 [UNKNOWN]: So that's not even true. 01:19:36.773 --> 01:19:43.957 [UNKNOWN]: Don't we, you know, I remember Bobby Fish talking about every time he worked in Noah's show, even once he was established, how he helped put up and tear it down the ring. 01:19:44.458 --> 01:19:54.484 [UNKNOWN]: And he would have, and he talked about how some of the veteran Noah home roster guys would come up to him and say, you know, like Bobby's son, why you do that? 01:19:54.504 --> 01:19:56.345 [UNKNOWN]: You don't have to, and he's no, I just want to help out. 01:19:57.290 --> 01:20:08.167 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like so, you know, someone was tweeting out pictures of Charles Robinson, who to this day puts up and tears down the ring with the crew on WWE shows, so I mean that's not even true. 01:20:08.607 --> 01:20:11.271 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, no one's expecting you to do it. 01:20:12.724 --> 01:20:17.227 [UNKNOWN]: at a major league level, but you can see that it's instilled in some of these guys. 01:20:17.247 --> 01:20:18.128 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, this is what you do. 01:20:18.208 --> 01:20:22.210 [UNKNOWN]: It's a, it's a, this is a business where everybody helps each other out. 01:20:22.611 --> 01:20:24.772 [UNKNOWN]: What is the harm in helping each other out? 01:20:24.792 --> 01:20:28.374 [UNKNOWN]: That's a, it really comes down to like, what is the harm in that?

01:20:29.255 --> 01:20:30.516 [UNKNOWN]: It's, it just comes down. 01:20:30.536 --> 01:20:31.797 [UNKNOWN]: They just do the right thing, man. 01:20:31.837 --> 01:20:32.897 [UNKNOWN]: Be a good person. 01:20:33.518 --> 01:20:36.820 [UNKNOWN]: Be a decent person to the other people you're working with. 01:20:38.683 --> 01:20:42.526 [UNKNOWN]: And, and, and, and, and, and again, AJ to me looks to where we haven't heard from Avery Styles. 01:20:42.666 --> 01:20:44.227 [UNKNOWN]: He might feel bad about it for all I know. 01:20:44.788 --> 01:20:47.250 [UNKNOWN]: But I know AJ Styles comes across worse than anybody. 01:20:47.270 --> 01:20:50.112 [UNKNOWN]: You know, the indie wrestlers, they're playing both sides. 01:20:50.152 --> 01:20:52.614 [UNKNOWN]: They have to, you know, be political about it. 01:20:53.054 --> 01:20:54.796 [UNKNOWN]: Cody statement was pretty fucking dumb. 01:20:55.997 --> 01:20:58.339 [UNKNOWN]: But, AJ just comes off like a dipshit. 01:20:58.519 --> 01:21:00.640 [UNKNOWN]: He comes off like a, like, like a shithead. 01:21:01.181 --> 01:21:01.421 [UNKNOWN]: I told 01:21:08.377 --> 01:21:09.698 [UNKNOWN]: I just don't see what the big deal is. 01:21:10.158 --> 01:21:11.919 [UNKNOWN]: I have to wrap up my end of it. 01:21:13.100 --> 01:21:15.961 [UNKNOWN]: I'll go where I started with the Brian Alvaro's anecdote. 01:21:16.121 --> 01:21:17.082 [UNKNOWN]: I would have his attitude. 01:21:17.922 --> 01:21:21.924 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe I'm not going there as a 30-year vet thinking that they want me to tear down the ring. 01:21:21.944 --> 01:21:23.465 [UNKNOWN]: But if they ask me to help, I'm just going to help. 01:21:24.186 --> 01:21:26.507 [UNKNOWN]: Because it's what you do when somebody asks you for help. 01:21:28.448 --> 01:21:33.569 [UNKNOWN]: You don't pull out your communist manifesto and start citing fucking unpaid labor fucker. 01:21:33.909 --> 01:21:34.170 [UNKNOWN]: Come on. 01:21:34.230 --> 01:21:34.530 [UNKNOWN]: Grow up. 01:21:35.170 --> 01:21:38.811 [UNKNOWN]: Grow up is what I would say to a lot of people in this story. 01:21:39.231 --> 01:21:44.132 [UNKNOWN]: So one thing I do want to address and then we can move on is AJ talked about he was going back and forth again. 01:21:44.172 --> 01:21:46.713 [UNKNOWN]: He should have also just logged off but he didn't. 01:21:47.751 --> 01:21:52.153 [UNKNOWN]: Um, he, uh, he was talking about, he says quote, uh, you know what's funny. 01:21:52.313 --> 01:21:58.815 [UNKNOWN]: As I was talking to at book it gave, that's Gabe Sipholsky, of course, uh, literally tonight, he talked about the ring crew that Ring of Honor used. 01:21:59.195 --> 01:22:02.256 [UNKNOWN]: That's why we never had to set up a breakdown the ring, not even the chairs. 01:22:02.596 --> 01:22:04.677 [UNKNOWN]: Want to guess the crew that G.C.W hired to do that? 01:22:05.237 --> 01:22:08.798 [UNKNOWN]: Now, first off, I don't know what Gabe told AJ. 01:22:09.738 --> 01:22:14.020 [UNKNOWN]: But the fucking the wrestlers were the ring. 01:22:15.550 --> 01:22:24.638 [UNKNOWN]: I've watched the wrestlers many times even even if that wasn't the same and gave and gave and gave and carry hired a ring crew. 01:22:24.658 --> 01:22:25.459 [UNKNOWN]: Well, that's something different. 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.604 [UNKNOWN]: This show didn't have a hired ring crew or it did, but what's he saying? 01:22:30.744 --> 01:22:33.706 [UNKNOWN]: He said I guess he's saying that they did hire a ring crew, but here's the thing. 01:22:34.847 --> 01:22:35.668 [UNKNOWN]: Just pick up some fucking chairs. 01:22:36.369 --> 01:22:38.431 [UNKNOWN]: They probably had somebody set the ring up. 01:22:39.340 --> 01:22:40.681 [UNKNOWN]: They're not asking him to set the ring up. 01:22:40.701 --> 01:22:42.081 [UNKNOWN]: They're asking him to pick up some fucking chairs. 01:22:42.401 --> 01:22:44.922 [UNKNOWN]: And again, I don't know what the conversation was with Gabe. 01:22:45.543 --> 01:22:50.845 [UNKNOWN]: I was, I went to several, many, many, many, many, gave-sepal-ski-boot ring of honor shows. 01:22:52.164 --> 01:22:56.249 [UNKNOWN]: Andy Wright-Lague Ridge was running the fucking spotlight and helping put the ring down. 01:22:56.590 --> 01:22:57.090 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:22:57.110 --> 01:22:57.951 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:22:57.971 --> 01:22:58.452 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:22:58.772 --> 01:23:00.334 [UNKNOWN]: Those guys got the trainees. 01:23:00.354 --> 01:23:01.015 [UNKNOWN]: They guys coming up. 01:23:01.055 --> 01:23:05.661 [UNKNOWN]: We're absolutely 100% doing things in and around that show. 01:23:05.961 --> 01:23:07.843 [UNKNOWN]: They do the white bounce of the cameras. 01:23:07.863 --> 01:23:08.744 [UNKNOWN]: They do the spotlight. 01:23:08.764 --> 01:23:10.226 [UNKNOWN]: They wipe down the ring when it was done. 01:23:10.286 --> 01:23:10.947 [UNKNOWN]: I saw them pick up. 01:23:10.947 --> 01:23:11.667 [UNKNOWN]: of chairs afterwards. 01:23:11.687 --> 01:23:13.008 [UNKNOWN]: I've seen them take down ring ropes. 01:23:13.308 --> 01:23:15.089 [UNKNOWN]: I saw them in between matches tight in the ropes. 01:23:15.429 --> 01:23:16.349 [UNKNOWN]: So did they build? 01:23:16.370 --> 01:23:17.770 [UNKNOWN]: Did they fucking put the boards in? 01:23:17.810 --> 01:23:19.971 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they put the boards in, but they absolutely fucking helped. 01:23:20.031 --> 01:23:23.813 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, for Gabe to now was Brian Danlson coming out and wiping down the term buckles. 01:23:23.873 --> 01:23:27.575 [UNKNOWN]: No, of course not in 2006, Brian Danlson wasn't coming out and wiping down the ring. 01:23:27.615 --> 01:23:27.755 [UNKNOWN]: But 01:23:28.395 --> 01:23:54.081 [UNKNOWN]: the the 19-year-old kids that were are which trainees absolutely were that whole crew that we're talking about were I am willing to bet if gave supposed to approach 2006 Brian Gayles and said Brian we're running behind can you help me with something absolutely innocent would trip over himself to help

absolutely now AJ styles apparently and that tells me all I need to know about AJ styles tell me all I need to know about the man 01:23:55.198 --> 01:24:17.646 [UNKNOWN]: And I kind of know that's somebody noted the chairman I forgot to mention that there was literally a team called the ring crew express yes in ring of honor correct these were wrestlers AJ these were wrestlers yeah i think he's confused i think that uh yeah maybe what game told him was hey look we had a young boy crew of guys were trainees who did these things 01:24:18.721 --> 01:24:20.623 [UNKNOWN]: Um, I bet they had a person that set the ring. 01:24:20.643 --> 01:24:22.244 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they had a guy that set the ring up. 01:24:22.264 --> 01:24:26.328 [UNKNOWN]: Like I go to any shows now and a lot of the shows in Chicago, they use the same ring. 01:24:26.348 --> 01:24:29.751 [UNKNOWN]: Like a lot of guys use the same ring and it's it's a guys ring and he's got a little crew. 01:24:29.771 --> 01:24:36.197 [UNKNOWN]: He's it's he owns the ring and he's got a crew of like three or four guys that are the, you know, the guys that will set the ring up, but 01:24:37.398 --> 01:24:39.199 [UNKNOWN]: They'll have guys go out there and wipe things down. 01:24:39.219 --> 01:24:48.787 [UNKNOWN]: They'll have guys go in there and that's the big difference that I think people for some reason couldn't handle is that no one is asking this guy to find a toolbox somewhere in the building and take the ring apart by himself. 01:24:48.827 --> 01:24:54.332 [UNKNOWN]: Like that's not at all anybody was saying all of this is a material to me. 01:24:54.733 --> 01:24:56.975 [UNKNOWN]: If someone asked you to help out, why can't you just help out? 01:24:56.995 --> 01:24:57.775 [UNKNOWN]: Just fucking great. 01:24:57.835 --> 01:24:58.496 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, help out. 01:24:58.616 --> 01:24:59.597 [UNKNOWN]: Be a decent person, help out. 01:25:00.118 --> 01:25:09.880 [UNKNOWN]: If I go to my sister-in-law's house next weekend, and she asked me to help set up some lawn chairs, I'm not going to turn her and say, yeah, first I got to watch my niece while you take a shower. 01:25:09.900 --> 01:25:11.161 [UNKNOWN]: Now I got to set up the lawn chairs. 01:25:11.841 --> 01:25:13.281 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to lay her eggs. 01:25:13.681 --> 01:25:17.482 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just going to grab a fucking lawn chair and stick it in the yard. 01:25:17.522 --> 01:25:18.322 [UNKNOWN]: What's the big deal? 01:25:18.342 --> 01:25:24.044 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I guess we should address the NXT picture. 01:25:24.724 --> 01:25:25.444 [UNKNOWN]: I just thought of that. 01:25:26.237 --> 01:25:27.478 [UNKNOWN]: Did you see the NXT picture? 01:25:27.618 --> 01:25:28.339 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I did. 01:25:28.719 --> 01:25:29.359 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, baby. 01:25:29.379 --> 01:25:31.621 [UNKNOWN]: Let me tell you all about it, Rich Cratch. 01:25:31.641 --> 01:25:32.602 [UNKNOWN]: You're going to get all upset. 01:25:33.202 -->

01:25:36.345 [UNKNOWN]: So Brian Pilman Jr. Oh, God. 01:25:36.425 --> 01:25:36.805 [UNKNOWN]: Stop. 01:25:36.945 --> 01:25:38.066 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to know anymore. 01:25:39.007 --> 01:25:41.128 [UNKNOWN]: So he put out along with the tweet basically. 01:25:41.248 --> 01:25:41.689 [UNKNOWN]: No. 01:25:42.489 --> 01:25:47.453 [UNKNOWN]: He was, his tweet was echoing what Cody said. 01:25:47.553 --> 01:25:51.116 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, if you grew up with your dad on the road, do you don't know what we went through? 01:25:51.136 --> 01:25:52.437 [UNKNOWN]: We already paid our dues. 01:25:53.823 --> 01:25:57.358 [UNKNOWN]: So up, then the next day or whatever, I know, seriously. 01:25:57.559 --> 01:25:59.446 [UNKNOWN]: And then the next day, 01:26:00.935 --> 01:26:13.404 [UNKNOWN]: they take a picture and the back and the next to you got D. Malenko's kid, Brian Pilman Jr. Avery Styles, a Brooks Jensen, the son of, I think, full-bukey. 01:26:13.424 --> 01:26:14.946 [UNKNOWN]: Bob, we can't make it. 01:26:15.106 --> 01:26:18.728 [UNKNOWN]: There was another female wrestler I don't remember. 01:26:18.768 --> 01:26:20.210 [UNKNOWN]: Was it Rimsura's starter? 01:26:20.590 --> 01:26:22.031 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, it was Rimsura's daughter. 01:26:22.051 --> 01:26:22.731 [UNKNOWN]: Alia. 01:26:23.132 --> 01:26:24.813 [UNKNOWN]: He was joined the piece. 01:26:24.833 --> 01:26:28.596 [UNKNOWN]: Fimley's other kid, broken in the or Yuraya, whatever the fuck. 01:26:28.995 --> 01:26:30.195 [UNKNOWN]: You're riot-conners, man. 01:26:30.215 --> 01:26:32.256 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I might be missing one or two. 01:26:33.176 --> 01:26:40.899 [UNKNOWN]: And the caption on the picture from Pilman was, we already set up the chairs and they're given the finger to the camera. 01:26:41.059 --> 01:26:41.980 [UNKNOWN]: Oh my god. 01:26:42.160 --> 01:26:47.061 [UNKNOWN]: Is that the most eye-roll cringey fucking shit that you know, I mean, it's so cringe. 01:26:47.862 --> 01:26:49.342 [UNKNOWN]: It's so fucking cringe. 01:26:49.502 --> 01:26:51.603 [UNKNOWN]: Do these people, you mentioned a little bit earlier. 01:26:51.723 --> 01:26:56.725 [UNKNOWN]: Look, I am sympathetic to the life of a wrestler, but for God's sake, 01:26:57.892 --> 01:27:06.158 [UNKNOWN]: You're not the only people that lived with a father who was not home or parents who weren't home, who was not away on, who was away on business, or you didn't see ever. 01:27:06.499 --> 01:27:09.081 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, how many people do you know growing up? 01:27:09.121 --> 01:27:10.422 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure you probably dealt with this too. 01:27:10.682 --> 01:27:14.165 [UNKNOWN]: I was lucky enough that both my parents usually worked mostly nine to five, but not all the time. 01:27:14.185 --> 01:27:17.888 [UNKNOWN]: There were times when I'd come home from school and have to take myself to a baseball practice. 01:27:17.908 --> 01:27:22.031 [UNKNOWN]: I would have to make my own dinner when I was, you know, younger, whatever, because my

dad had to work later. 01:27:22.051 --> 01:27:24.293 [UNKNOWN]: My mom was working second, third, shift through whatever. 01:27:27.723 --> 01:27:29.624 [UNKNOWN]: Dad worked during the day mom weren't at night. 01:27:29.664 --> 01:27:37.870 [UNKNOWN]: He never saw his parents together except maybe on the weekends And they were fucking exhausted the entire time or they'd go away his dad would go away I help my dad grew up in the fucking trucking business. 01:27:37.890 --> 01:27:39.512 [UNKNOWN]: You want to talk about a tough life for children? 01:27:40.092 --> 01:27:42.474 [UNKNOWN]: Talk to a fuck the the son of a trucker. 01:27:42.694 --> 01:27:44.655 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're never home long-haul truckers. 01:27:44.675 --> 01:27:45.836 [UNKNOWN]: Especially they're making a lot of money. 01:27:46.036 --> 01:27:46.537 [UNKNOWN]: They're out there 01:27:47.437 --> 01:27:54.981 [UNKNOWN]: weeks, months on an eating garbage food dying young because they are just out doing whatever they can to support their family and support their children. 01:27:55.001 --> 01:27:58.283 [UNKNOWN]: So fuck off with this like the wrestlers of the only people that have ever had. 01:27:58.323 --> 01:28:00.664 [UNKNOWN]: Like is that's kind of what you're saying in playing there? 01:28:00.704 --> 01:28:08.608 [UNKNOWN]: Is that like, oh, we don't need to do anything because like our, we had a tough up bringing a new year as a tough up bringing fuck off. 01:28:08.648 --> 01:28:09.268 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to look. 01:28:09.308 --> 01:28:10.569 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to argue with 01:28:11.365 --> 01:28:14.626 [UNKNOWN]: with sons and daughters of guys who died when they were 35. 01:28:14.806 --> 01:28:18.006 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure that was not, I'm sure Brian Pellman's youth was not fun. 01:28:19.247 --> 01:28:21.087 [UNKNOWN]: Every style's with the charm of fucking life. 01:28:21.107 --> 01:28:21.507 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 01:28:21.527 --> 01:28:21.687 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:28:21.707 --> 01:28:25.668 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, a lot of good tears is okay, I think they're fine for Alia. 01:28:25.968 --> 01:28:31.969 [UNKNOWN]: If this kid grew up in a palatial estate in Georgia, I mean, come on, you know, give me a break, give me a break. 01:28:32.009 --> 01:28:33.470 [UNKNOWN]: He can't pick up chairs because, 01:28:34.550 --> 01:28:38.311 [UNKNOWN]: because, unfortunately, his dad was a millionaire, is this why he can't pick up chairs? 01:28:38.711 --> 01:28:39.591 [UNKNOWN]: Is this what he's saying? 01:28:40.171 --> 01:28:49.934 [UNKNOWN]: It's crazy, it's crazy, what the... Yeah, like, okay, a different generation, too, because I'm slightly sympathetic of course, a Brian Pilman, I mean, he's Brian Pilman Junior. 01:28:49.954 --> 01:28:50.614 [UNKNOWN]: This is given that. 01:28:50.634 --> 01:28:52.454 [UNKNOWN]: And let's be fair, and let's be fair. 01:28:52.734 --> 01:28:55.215 [UNKNOWN]: To AJ Styles' up, Avery, I was up ringing. 01:28:55.375 --> 01:28:55.815 [UNKNOWN]: Not in a way. 01:28:55.835 --> 01:28:56.995 [UNKNOWN]: With a hearing of your father. 01:28:57.655 --> 01:29:00.256 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not the way I heard AJ just talk. 01:29:00.956 --> 01:29:03.177 [UNKNOWN]: And now to be fair, you know, 01:29:05.378 --> 01:29:07.119 [UNKNOWN]: That tweet could have been partially in gimmick. 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:14.163 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, with him who knows, you know, I don't know. 01:29:14.183 --> 01:29:18.265 [UNKNOWN]: He's been out of touch for a while, because we always talked about the famous story when he was in MLW. 01:29:18.845 --> 01:29:20.206 [UNKNOWN]: And he was doing an interview one time. 01:29:20.686 --> 01:29:23.268 [UNKNOWN]: And he was talking about how hard it was to get started and wrestling. 01:29:23.288 --> 01:29:26.530 [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, yeah, when I decided to get started with wrestling, like I didn't even know where to turn. 01:29:26.550 --> 01:29:26.870 [UNKNOWN]: So like, 01:29:27.230 --> 01:29:28.371 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I reached out. 01:29:28.451 --> 01:29:31.272 [UNKNOWN]: I called, you know, I called Stone Cold Steve Austin. 01:29:31.312 --> 01:29:32.332 [UNKNOWN]: I called Lance storm. 01:29:32.372 --> 01:29:36.994 [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, you know, I had to really, you know, pull myself up by the bootstraps and figure out how to do this. 01:29:37.034 --> 01:29:46.618 [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, Brian, you realize that 99% of people that are trying to become professional wrestlers can't just call Stone Cold Steve Austin and Lance storm. 01:29:46.678 --> 01:29:48.058 [UNKNOWN]: It's a, hey, how do I start? 01:29:48.138 --> 01:29:51.299 [UNKNOWN]: Like, and he was trying to like, remember that in earnest? 01:29:51.360 --> 01:29:52.420 [UNKNOWN]: I was talking about like, 01:29:52.720 --> 01:30:01.842 [UNKNOWN]: How hard it was to figure out how to get a start in this business and like, you know, how he had to really, you know, scratch and claw to find a spot in the business as Brian Tillman's son or whatever. 01:30:01.862 --> 01:30:03.943 [UNKNOWN]: So I called stone coal in a cobbland storm. 01:30:03.963 --> 01:30:04.323 [UNKNOWN]: I got it. 01:30:04.343 --> 01:30:04.683 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:30:04.703 --> 01:30:05.323 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, too. 01:30:05.343 --> 01:30:07.063 [UNKNOWN]: You don't understand what you're selling here. 01:30:07.103 --> 01:30:11.925 [UNKNOWN]: You have the biggest star in the business and the, and the most well renowned trainer in the business in your phone. 01:30:12.165 --> 01:30:15.885 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it was very difficult for you to get started in and pro wrestling. 01:30:16.145 --> 01:30:19.006 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe he had the scroll through a lot of different Steve's phones. 01:30:23.047 --> 01:30:39.044 [UNKNOWN]: That's Steve Williams from high school or is that stone cold the hardships that I had the face to get started in this business Yeah, I mean and I and listen another Not only would I bet everything that Brian Danielson

would help out Gabe Sapolsky if asked in 2006 01:30:40.445 --> 01:30:44.952 [UNKNOWN]: I would also bet everything that Brogan Finley has stacked a chair to in his life. 01:30:45.312 --> 01:30:47.776 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you think this is gonna let him not stack a chair? 01:30:47.816 --> 01:30:48.276 [UNKNOWN]: No, no. 01:30:48.376 --> 01:30:55.446 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is all such fucking nonsense, you know, and a lot of it is people publicly not wanting to cross AJ Styles. 01:30:56.305 --> 01:30:58.428 [UNKNOWN]: a big major international star. 01:30:58.508 --> 01:31:11.446 [UNKNOWN]: And a lot of it is that you can see like when you when you read the Ben Bishop and Shazam McKenzie tweets that they're very they want to say one thing and they kind of do, but then they have to couch it by the end of the tour. 01:31:11.486 --> 01:31:17.150 [UNKNOWN]: Well, and they know this guy is going to be a staple in the places they want to work for the next couple years until you get signed up. 01:31:17.170 --> 01:31:19.411 [UNKNOWN]: And they're going to share locker rooms with him. 01:31:19.972 --> 01:31:25.956 [UNKNOWN]: And I do not mean this as any disrespect to Ben Bishop for Shazam McKenzie. 01:31:26.036 --> 01:31:26.716 [UNKNOWN]: I really don't. 01:31:26.756 --> 01:31:27.557 [UNKNOWN]: What I'm about to say. 01:31:28.097 --> 01:31:30.739 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, no disrespect with the next thing I'm going to say. 01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:37.543 [UNKNOWN]: They both know that Avery Styles is going to be a much bigger star than both of them in like six months. 01:31:38.404 --> 01:31:39.505 [UNKNOWN]: So what do you think they're going to say? 01:31:40.336 --> 01:31:43.440 [UNKNOWN]: They're going to be sharing a locker room with a guy who's going to be headlining over them. 01:31:44.881 --> 01:31:59.339 [UNKNOWN]: So they're going to couch it on top of the fact that these AJ Styles get and you don't want that because I'm sure that Ben Bishop and Shazam McKenzie still have the dream, you think they want to cross AJ Styles and have him remember their name as the people who 01:32:00.893 --> 01:32:03.736 [UNKNOWN]: you know, piled on his kid when he didn't stack some chairs. 01:32:04.276 --> 01:32:13.264 [UNKNOWN]: So you can't really take what these indie wrestlers are saying, you know, a hundred percent either like it's their true real thoughts because they obviously, they obviously, they're out there. 01:32:13.704 --> 01:32:15.266 [UNKNOWN]: And again, I don't mean that, and it just doesn't. 01:32:15.286 --> 01:32:19.870 [UNKNOWN]: Shazam McKenzie's out there making a living in a new country as an independent pro wrestler. 01:32:19.910 --> 01:32:20.390 [UNKNOWN]: Good for her. 01:32:21.328 --> 01:32:25.149 [UNKNOWN]: But she understands where this is, you know, the situation here. 01:32:25.549 --> 01:32:27.910 [UNKNOWN]: She knows this kid's gonna be headline in over her in six months. 01:32:28.070 --> 01:32:32.251 [UNKNOWN]: And Ben Bishop was just, I think he

was at a WWE try out, like, less than whatever, so yeah. 01:32:32.271 --> 01:32:33.731 [UNKNOWN]: But with our last year, maybe something. 01:32:33.751 --> 01:32:36.092 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you know, Josh Bishop was at the recent one. 01:32:36.112 --> 01:32:36.532 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's right. 01:32:36.552 --> 01:32:37.832 [UNKNOWN]: Ben did want a couple years ago. 01:32:37.852 --> 01:32:38.832 [UNKNOWN]: Ben did want a few years ago. 01:32:38.852 --> 01:32:41.473 [UNKNOWN]: But you get the idea, like, they have to work with the kid. 01:32:42.557 --> 01:32:51.386 [UNKNOWN]: But they're so online, they feel like they have to say something, and they do kind of, and you know they kind of feel like there's no way to say anything for the people who don't have to say something. 01:32:51.706 --> 01:32:55.510 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you don't always look, you don't have to have an opinion on everything. 01:32:56.271 --> 01:32:57.052 [UNKNOWN]: Take it from me. 01:32:57.432 --> 01:32:59.354 [UNKNOWN]: You don't have to have an opinion on everything. 01:33:00.228 --> 01:33:04.412 [UNKNOWN]: You don't, you know, but, you know, Ben Bishop's got to have an opinion on everything. 01:33:04.452 --> 01:33:04.992 [UNKNOWN]: He just adds out. 01:33:05.012 --> 01:33:06.674 [UNKNOWN]: That's his brand, yeah, his brand is. 01:33:07.014 --> 01:33:19.404 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but that picture is just, look, I hope I sincerely hope that Pillman and the rest that I gang, that that was them trying to take advantage of a situation as part of their work, because otherwise that is so cringe. 01:33:20.065 --> 01:33:23.688 [UNKNOWN]: It's fucking beyond cringe to tweet something out like that. 01:33:24.188 --> 01:33:25.389 [UNKNOWN]: And Cody, you're full of shit. 01:33:26.250 --> 01:33:32.996 [UNKNOWN]: I, you know, Cody, you're completely full of shit because if you felt what you tweeted, you wouldn't have had that broom in the picture to begin with. 01:33:33.536 --> 01:33:37.459 [UNKNOWN]: But you had the broom in your hand, Cody, tell people why you had the broom in your hands. 01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:41.042 [UNKNOWN]: That's what I would challenge Cody to do if he was on this show right now. 01:33:41.543 --> 01:33:42.704 [UNKNOWN]: Trying to defend his garbage. 01:33:43.064 --> 01:33:44.365 [UNKNOWN]: I'd say, all right, Cody, this is very simple. 01:33:44.685 --> 01:33:46.227 [UNKNOWN]: Tell me why you had that broom in your hand, then. 01:33:46.407 --> 01:33:47.988 [UNKNOWN]: If you were already stacked the fucking chairs. 01:33:48.709 --> 01:33:49.529 [UNKNOWN]: And you know what he would say? 01:33:49.850 --> 01:33:51.111 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, well, you know, I'm just helping out. 01:33:51.171 --> 01:33:52.071 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, exactly. 01:33:52.091 --> 01:33:52.812 [UNKNOWN]: Exactly, me, me, me, me, me. 01:33:53.192 --> 01:33:53.573 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 01:33:54.323 --> 01:33:55.584 [UNKNOWN]: Because it's the right for their questions. 01:33:55.604 --> 01:33:55.984 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 01:33:56.064 --> 01:34:16.280 [UNKNOWN]: You're honored because you didn't go to that show With the with the with the with the mindset of an entitled prick who didn't have to grab a broom and no one asked you to grab the I guarantee you Nobody asked Cody to grab the broom either I guarantee he grabbed that broom on his own So he's talking on a both sides of his mouth 01:34:22.744 --> 01:34:23.426 [UNKNOWN]: That's good stuff there. 01:34:23.607 --> 01:34:23.908 [UNKNOWN]: I like that. 01:34:23.928 --> 01:34:24.510 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good segment. 01:34:25.815 --> 01:34:27.942 [UNKNOWN]: Anything else on this? 01:34:28.043 --> 01:34:28.906 [UNKNOWN]: Have you seen the kit work yet? 01:34:29.046 --> 01:34:29.287 [UNKNOWN]: Or no? 01:34:30.091 --> 01:34:31.412 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't see the match now. 01:34:31.452 --> 01:34:32.832 [UNKNOWN]: I've seen the, the matters match. 01:34:32.852 --> 01:34:36.234 [UNKNOWN]: That's the one that, that's the one that he had in Minneapolis. 01:34:36.254 --> 01:34:37.535 [UNKNOWN]: I think I watched that one. 01:34:37.995 --> 01:34:39.216 [UNKNOWN]: Um, guys, he's all right. 01:34:39.936 --> 01:34:40.216 [UNKNOWN]: He's good. 01:34:40.236 --> 01:34:40.757 [UNKNOWN]: He's got for 19. 01:34:40.797 --> 01:34:41.257 [UNKNOWN]: He's good. 01:34:41.357 --> 01:34:43.338 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's, obviously naturally gifted. 01:34:43.358 --> 01:34:45.919 [UNKNOWN]: I think he had under five matches. 01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:46.500 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:34:46.780 --> 01:34:47.020 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:34:47.040 --> 01:34:49.401 [UNKNOWN]: So I think I saw, yeah, I saw the matters match then. 01:34:50.162 --> 01:34:50.722 [UNKNOWN]: I was watching it. 01:34:50.762 --> 01:34:51.802 [UNKNOWN]: I think it was like, it's on YouTube. 01:34:51.822 --> 01:34:52.343 [UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty good. 01:34:53.043 --> 01:34:54.784 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, now there's met met him look good. 01:34:54.804 --> 01:35:00.248 [UNKNOWN]: He uh there was a couple sloppy spots the problem that he's he's doing what a lot of modern wrestlers do and he's he's 01:35:02.234 --> 01:35:13.523 [UNKNOWN]: doing spot you know he's more of a spot guy like and that's that's just what wrestling is now It's it's like one spot to another spot to another spot or to another spot like it's it's the fun of metals aren't really there And there's a lot of times where it fucks on it. 01:35:13.683 --> 01:35:14.984 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't look like natural. 01:35:15.004 --> 01:35:22.850 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't look like a guy who's you know Simulating a fighter whatever, but that's we've long lost that and wrestling, but He's he's solid for 19. 01:35:22.890 --> 01:35:25.912 [UNKNOWN]: He's definitely he's the good for sure So he'll he'll be very good. 01:35:26.132 --> 01:35:26.813 [UNKNOWN]: I have no dot my mind. 01:35:26.833 --> 01:35:29.395 [UNKNOWN]: He'll be pretty good if he sticks with this and doesn't get hurt or whatever So 01:35:31.192 --> 01:35:32.293 [UNKNOWN]: Matters

got really good though. 01:35:32.333 --> 01:35:41.538 [UNKNOWN]: Matters is is is is is the right guy to be in the ring with if you were 19 years old in the son of a wrestling legend and you knew you were going to get fast tracked to the major league sooner than later. 01:35:42.358 --> 01:35:50.903 [UNKNOWN]: Wouldn't you go the extra mile to not be perceived as a story I talked about that a couple minutes ago, yeah, absolutely it you'd go the extra mile to to not get that reputation. 01:35:51.003 --> 01:35:54.004 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the kind of guy that would show that that if I were that. 01:35:54.064 --> 01:36:04.546 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I would be so nervous to answer a locker room with people that have been paying their dues for decades and feel like they haven't gotten anything and I have everything and I'm on this show with five matches in or whatever. 01:36:12.308 --> 01:36:24.145 [UNKNOWN]: Everything I could like I said I go around and make sure that everybody at least thinks because I care a lot about what people think and maybe you know, every doesn't clearly But no, I I Exactly yeah, yeah, yeah crazy 01:36:29.138 --> 01:36:30.580 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, there we go. 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:32.382 [UNKNOWN]: That is, that is the average style story. 01:36:32.402 --> 01:36:33.483 [UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if it's gonna end. 01:36:33.503 --> 01:36:34.505 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's gonna get worse. 01:36:35.346 --> 01:36:46.800 [UNKNOWN]: I will say is that as we sell, I'll say even though we talk for 90 minutes, but I'll sign off, I guess, on this topic by saying that everything that I've ever heard about Eric Cannon is that he's a pretty mild man or guy of an interaction. 01:36:46.820 --> 01:36:48.542 [UNKNOWN]: I've had with Eric Cannon's been pretty mild manored. 01:36:49.546 --> 01:36:51.467 [UNKNOWN]: So I imagine that this pissed him off a lot. 01:36:51.567 --> 01:36:52.047 [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean? 01:36:52.728 --> 01:36:54.108 [UNKNOWN]: Like I bet he was pissed off that night. 01:36:54.129 --> 01:36:55.129 [UNKNOWN]: The tweet pissed him off. 01:36:55.149 --> 01:36:56.570 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think he was pissed off that night. 01:36:56.590 --> 01:36:58.831 [UNKNOWN]: And it was just like, oh, fucking entire little prick or whatever. 01:36:58.851 --> 01:37:00.072 [UNKNOWN]: And then he gets on his phone. 01:37:00.092 --> 01:37:01.593 [UNKNOWN]: You know, he's in bed or whatever. 01:37:01.633 --> 01:37:04.494 [UNKNOWN]: He sees netty night harping and like, oh, I'm so glad he paid his dues. 01:37:04.514 --> 01:37:05.495 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, no. 01:37:07.174 --> 01:37:08.214 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's sweet, Pissed them off. 01:37:08.234 --> 01:37:10.055 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's like how can we have that stand? 01:37:10.135 --> 01:37:11.256 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can't let that stand. 01:37:11.276 --> 01:37:14.137 [UNKNOWN]: He had to be like, I can't let people think that this kid is respectful. 01:37:14.517 --> 01:37:17.038 [UNKNOWN]: Right, but I see some people call him like a bitter entitled. 01:37:17.058 --> 01:37:18.959 [UNKNOWN]: Like that's not at all what Eric Cannon is. 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:26.242 [UNKNOWN]: Eric Cannon is, I think pretty happy with how things, and he runs first wrestling now and Minneapolis, he's a promoter now. 01:37:26.302 --> 01:37:30.024 [UNKNOWN]: So everything I've heard about the guy is he's a very mild man and a pretty good dude. 01:37:30.924 --> 01:37:31.965 [UNKNOWN]: So I don't. 01:37:32.745 --> 01:37:37.509 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's just out there with his arms crossed waiting to get mad about everything that happens in and around wrestling. 01:37:37.629 --> 01:37:41.853 [UNKNOWN]: That's not him, but this, I mean, he shouldn't have fired it off. 01:37:42.033 --> 01:37:49.459 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, this was one of those things that never would have come out if, if Nadi, now it's not Nadi's fault. 01:37:49.519 --> 01:37:50.200 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not blaming her. 01:37:50.400 --> 01:37:57.026 [UNKNOWN]: But if she doesn't make that tweet, none of us are even discussing this or knowing anything about this, and Avery Styles just has a reputation 01:38:00.929 --> 01:38:01.989 [UNKNOWN]: entitled or whatever. 01:38:02.169 --> 01:38:08.732 [UNKNOWN]: It never would have gone public, but I think that annoyed him to see him painted that way when he had a completely different experience. 01:38:09.352 --> 01:38:11.573 [UNKNOWN]: And it's just annoyed him and he's like, you know, I get it. 01:38:12.773 --> 01:38:16.254 [UNKNOWN]: You know, again, I agree that maybe he shouldn't have tweeted it, but I understand why he did. 01:38:16.614 --> 01:38:17.555 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for sure. 01:38:17.795 --> 01:38:21.396 [UNKNOWN]: And the bottom line is if the kid would have just grabbed a chair, there'd be nothing to tweet. 01:38:26.350 --> 01:38:30.652 [UNKNOWN]: All right, let's move on to Negepan for wrestling. 01:38:30.772 --> 01:38:36.894 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to start off first since we're going to be previewing the two nights in Sumo Hall, August 15th, August 16th. 01:38:37.174 --> 01:38:37.955 [UNKNOWN]: There's not a lot there. 01:38:37.995 --> 01:38:39.295 [UNKNOWN]: We know the semi-final matches. 01:38:39.735 --> 01:38:41.236 [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, we'll find out the final. 01:38:42.016 --> 01:38:58.620 [UNKNOWN]: after those, but the big thing for me on these August 15 shows is that this will be the Haryoshi Tenson Retirement, Exhibition Match, him versus Kojima, which is the exact perfect opponent for Tenson to retire with, but Tenson versus Kojima, it's a five minute, isn't one of these five minute gimmicks, right? 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:01.161 [UNKNOWN]: Five minute Exhibition Match or something like that, I or I, 01:39:01.481 --> 01:39:20.022 [UNKNOWN]: isn't five minutes or they're just calling an exhibition match i forget it i don't know the length they're calling it an exhibition match i don't know i i could check

the duke pants like okay i forget if they i i in my head there it's like a strict time limit or whatever maybe that's not the case not that i think tension can really go more than five minutes at this point i mean he has a rest of it and you know since what April of 2015 or 2025 or whatever and 01:39:22.004 --> 01:39:23.364 [UNKNOWN]: wasn't really much of a work at that point. 01:39:23.384 --> 01:39:25.605 [UNKNOWN]: By minute limit retirement mass. 01:39:25.685 --> 01:39:28.326 [UNKNOWN]: I'm in it limit exhibition retirement mass. 01:39:28.366 --> 01:39:30.866 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, so that, I mean, it kind of sucks that that's how he's got to go. 01:39:31.206 --> 01:39:31.566 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:39:31.586 --> 01:39:32.386 [UNKNOWN]: But that's because. 01:39:32.586 --> 01:39:34.647 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the way he could, he's working these days. 01:39:35.507 --> 01:39:39.488 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the last five years of his career, his one ankle was pointing in the wrong direction. 01:39:39.508 --> 01:39:43.449 [UNKNOWN]: And obviously, he hasn't taken a bump in over a year. 01:39:43.489 --> 01:39:50.531 [UNKNOWN]: He's lost a considerable amount of weight, which probably good thing, because he's probably not, doesn't feel like he needs to be to look like a wrestler anymore. 01:39:52.271 --> 01:40:10.525 [UNKNOWN]: I suspect that it would probably be ugly if he tried to go out there and have like a full-on real match So I personally think the five-minute limit is probably a good thing Oh certainly yeah, and the state of his ankles or whatever with both him pointing the opposite directions or whatever It's yeah, it's pretty rough, but I want to talk a little bit about the career 01:40:11.627 --> 01:40:14.049 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, but here he knows she tends on because he's he's he's signing off here. 01:40:15.129 --> 01:40:16.690 [UNKNOWN]: And it's kind of happening. 01:40:16.730 --> 01:40:21.253 [UNKNOWN]: It's you know, not it doesn't feel like it's that big of a deal to the outside wrestling world. 01:40:21.293 --> 01:40:34.642 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure many I mean how many how many other places are going to be talking about the retirement of tens on, you know, you know, I after after this weekend who who's talking about in the build up like no one's it's he's going to kind of really can I put someone over. 01:40:34.662 --> 01:40:35.363 [UNKNOWN]: Sure. 01:40:36.481 --> 01:40:38.862 [UNKNOWN]: The Allen just did a podcast with a zelner. 01:40:39.082 --> 01:40:42.624 [UNKNOWN]: So check out the Dr. Keith present show for sometimes. 01:40:42.644 --> 01:40:44.244 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Peter B. Torch, I'll let's put the link down. 01:40:44.284 --> 01:40:45.084 [UNKNOWN]: I'll listen to that tomorrow. 01:40:45.105 --> 01:40:51.767 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm sure that and they're going to do a better job than we are right here because I'm not going to do a very, very long segment here about about 10. 01:40:51.827 --> 01:40:52.808 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like two hours a month. 01:40:52.828 --> 01:40:54.388 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the right guys to do it. 01:40:54.448 --> 01:40:58.150 [UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of my point about tens on and I wanted to bring up a larger point. 01:40:58.910 --> 01:41:07.296 [UNKNOWN]: about the way that New Japan and this entire generation of legends that are going to retire from New Japan for us in Yujinagata until she co-geema soon after that. 01:41:07.316 --> 01:41:16.683 [UNKNOWN]: And then a couple of guys that, you know, the last guys that are still kind of hanging on there, New Japan from that previous generation got to three generations ago now. 01:41:17.344 --> 01:41:26.851 [UNKNOWN]: And I think one of the big issues with these guys when they're retiring or going to retire or, you know, is I think New Japan 01:41:28.392 --> 01:41:44.019 [UNKNOWN]: New Japan world's great obviously it's great to be able to watch live new Japan shows It's a fantastic service to watch live shows the idea that we could just watch these G1 every single single we just watch every single G1 you know I mean every single show that new Japan puts on we can watch live Like that's really cool we can watch anytime we want on demand whatever 01:41:44.679 --> 01:41:49.883 [UNKNOWN]: But one of the big issues with that is it keeps everything in that one little universe, everything is stuck on New Japan world. 01:41:49.903 --> 01:41:59.812 [UNKNOWN]: And we know that, you know, uh, New Japan in the past has been very litigious about, you know, people tweeting stuff out and videos or gifts or whatever, you know, uh, to be a SIE is crazy about it too. 01:42:00.192 --> 01:42:01.913 [UNKNOWN]: New Japan doesn't upload a lot of stuff to YouTube. 01:42:01.953 --> 01:42:08.539 [UNKNOWN]: So there's going to be guys that retire and, and I, to test this out, I looked for tens on here. 01:42:09.500 --> 01:42:12.963 [UNKNOWN]: There's going to be people that retire and you're not going to be able to watch, like, anything. 01:42:13.808 --> 01:42:41.931 [UNKNOWN]: from the the peak of their career unless you subscribe to New Japan world and know how to use their search function and know how to navigate through the site and all that sort of stuff and have fucking socks like if you look up the area she tends on YouTube right now you get one New Japan match you get some random grainy match against Rochistana Hashi it's like I think it's either a G1 final or something like that I think it might be a G1 final maybe for the youth 30 title I forget you know whatever and then like a bunch of WCB worldwide matches with 01:42:44.380 --> 01:42:52.211 [UNKNOWN]: And that's it, like that's that's that's that's that's his legacy online for most people like you know we do these when when when people 01:42:53.770 --> 01:43:05.477 [UNKNOWN]: when people retire and or when people die and we do these, you know, obituary shows will say, yeah, you can go on YouTube and watch this match and that match and that match and watch this

and watch that and it's like a lot of times it's a lot easier to access these people when people retire from all Japan. 01:43:05.497 --> 01:43:08.839 [UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a lot easier to access stuff from all Japan because a lot of that stuff is available. 01:43:09.139 --> 01:43:12.201 [UNKNOWN]: The prime peak days of all those old Japan guys is available. 01:43:12.221 --> 01:43:19.806 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of no stuff is still available on YouTube, but New Japan by their own doing has gotten a lot of that stuff off of everywhere but New Japan world. 01:43:20.526 --> 01:43:24.828 [UNKNOWN]: And I think that kind of sucks for someone like a 10's on, who's going to retire and it's like, I can't tell you. 01:43:24.848 --> 01:43:35.272 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, not that I think 10's on like this amazing great worker that I have like a thousand matches that I want you to watch or whatever, but just really can't watch any of his like prime stuff without subscribing to Japan world. 01:43:35.753 --> 01:43:39.154 [UNKNOWN]: And it feels like that's going to be, you know, there's not going to be gifts tweeted out. 01:43:39.174 --> 01:43:39.854 [UNKNOWN]: There's not going to be anything. 01:43:39.874 --> 01:43:41.175 [UNKNOWN]: He's just going to kind of retire. 01:43:41.255 --> 01:43:44.797 [UNKNOWN]: And it's just like a lot of stuff in New Japan feels like it just happens in this vacuum. 01:43:44.937 --> 01:43:45.657 [UNKNOWN]: And then it just kind of 01:43:51.033 --> 01:44:15.073 [UNKNOWN]: for tens I don't know I don't they haven't yet because I've been obviously covering the g one and let me check for out a couple free there's a couple free they put in they're putting out three or four free g one matches but there's nothing else in the free section right now I don't think uh... while you're looking that up he does have a probably more legendary matches than people think 01:44:16.238 --> 01:44:22.206 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's, especially if you're a newer fan, if you only jumped in on New Japan during the Bushy Road era. 01:44:22.607 --> 01:44:23.908 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, there's two. 01:44:23.928 --> 01:44:24.309 [UNKNOWN]: There's two. 01:44:24.349 --> 01:44:25.230 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry to interrupt here. 01:44:25.611 --> 01:44:25.811 [UNKNOWN]: No. 01:44:26.071 --> 01:44:28.334 [UNKNOWN]: Here we have she sends on best matches until August 15th. 01:44:28.354 --> 01:44:33.962 [UNKNOWN]: So for the next two days, you can watch the G1 2006 finals between Tanzania, Kojima. 01:44:35.400 --> 01:44:42.023 [UNKNOWN]: And you can watch machine gunker and giant Bernard versus Kojima and tensed on from Russell Kingdom. 01:44:42.043 --> 01:44:43.943 [UNKNOWN]: I have to get them and that's it. 01:44:43.963 --> 01:44:48.505 [UNKNOWN]: That does would not be my two choices, but that's all you get from next two days. 01:44:48.525 --> 01:44:50.846 [UNKNOWN]: You can watch those two for free. 01:44:52.507 --> 01:44:55.748 [UNKNOWN]: Look, I think when I think about, I understand the point you're making. 01:44:55.768 --> 01:44:57.289 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a shame. 01:44:59.309 --> 01:45:03.672 [UNKNOWN]: If people want to dig, the ones that come the mind for me, obviously his career. 01:45:03.692 --> 01:45:10.697 [UNKNOWN]: And I talked about this on one of the G1, maybe it was a flagship plus, I don't remember, but I talked about this behind the paywall recently when I saw him as retirement. 01:45:11.470 --> 01:45:14.572 [UNKNOWN]: You know, tens on had a really great career. 01:45:14.692 --> 01:45:19.535 [UNKNOWN]: I think if there was such a thing as a New Japan Hall of Fame, he's an absolute stone cold lock. 01:45:19.635 --> 01:45:20.416 [UNKNOWN]: You don't even think about it. 01:45:20.436 --> 01:45:20.956 [UNKNOWN]: You put him in it. 01:45:21.036 --> 01:45:21.877 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, God. 01:45:21.917 --> 01:45:22.217 [UNKNOWN]: Of course. 01:45:23.358 --> 01:45:26.100 [UNKNOWN]: He's a borderline, pro wrestling Hall of Famer. 01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:33.905 [UNKNOWN]: Like we always talk about how 10 Cojis on the ballot, but we think both of them would do better if you split them up. 01:45:33.965 --> 01:45:36.127 [UNKNOWN]: I think they both have reasonable cases. 01:45:37.247 --> 01:45:44.672 [UNKNOWN]: for something like the Observer Hall of Fame as singles wrestlers when the tag team is in addition to their resume. 01:45:45.353 --> 01:45:54.559 [UNKNOWN]: But he's an absolute, uh, new Japan legend, uh, you know, not at the level of like a Nokia or Tana Hashie, but the next level, I put him right on that next tier. 01:45:54.719 --> 01:46:00.844 [UNKNOWN]: He's not on the a Nokia Tana Hashie tier, but he's on that next tier, not far behind and, you know, he's got 01:46:01.724 --> 01:46:17.437 [UNKNOWN]: more legendary matches that, unfortunately, the time period that they happened in, and you have pointed this out by what you had to say, there's not a lot of footage free and easily accessible footage floating around from when he was a really big deal. 01:46:17.857 --> 01:46:26.905 [UNKNOWN]: Think of the young generation of wrestling fans, like the people that know ball, the people that were around at that time, and I'm not including myself in this, I'm not, I jumped on New Japan very late, but 01:46:27.265 --> 01:46:40.012 [UNKNOWN]: your aliens, your criss-sellers, you, you know, those sort of people, Mike Sempervivi, Adam Summers, those guys that were in the weeds, your Zach Arnolds, like those dudes who were in the weeds, you know, doing mega uploads, you know, 15 mega upload files or whatever, watch this shit. 01:46:40.592 --> 01:46:42.133 [UNKNOWN]: Those are the people that are going to understand. 01:46:42.153 --> 01:46:46.195 [UNKNOWN]: Here are how she tends on, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know, impact and how good he was. 01:46:47.015 --> 01:46:48.416 [UNKNOWN]: the new generation of wrestling fans. 01:46:48.476 --> 01:46:57.800 [UNKNOWN]: If you're 30 years in younger, you have very little idea

of what this guy, and it's not like you can really go out without a little bit of work and find his guy's catalog. 01:46:57.820 --> 01:47:00.602 [UNKNOWN]: So like, like, like her was, obviously, like her's a legend. 01:47:00.702 --> 01:47:01.402 [UNKNOWN]: Everybody knows like her. 01:47:01.542 --> 01:47:03.023 [UNKNOWN]: That's not that's not going to be a problem. 01:47:03.243 --> 01:47:07.005 [UNKNOWN]: You know, Hiroshi Tanashi, we all live through you know, Tanashi's prime. 01:47:07.105 --> 01:47:10.807 [UNKNOWN]: You know, we, we, everybody that started jumping on this Japanese wrestling 01:47:15.470 --> 01:47:16.194 [UNKNOWN]: I'm mixing the two up. 01:47:16.455 --> 01:47:18.868 [UNKNOWN]: Horosha's on Hashie was all about and how great he was or whatever. 01:47:19.817 --> 01:47:39.183 [UNKNOWN]: I, it's not, there's a very small window of people that really understand about tens on and to me that that's really sad because I feel like he's going to retire and it's going to be like, I'm just going to move on and people are going to shrug and most people are never going to think about him ever again or or ever go back and watch any of his old stuff and that that's that kind of stuff when he was from when he was really good. 01:47:39.203 --> 01:47:46.526 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it again, I just think there's a death of easily available footage from that era and that's that's the problem from his era. 01:47:47.346 --> 01:47:54.251 [UNKNOWN]: He will always be interestingly linked to Satoshi Kojima because they were great rivals and obviously great tag team partners. 01:47:54.811 --> 01:47:56.512 [UNKNOWN]: Their careers are going to be tied to hip forever. 01:47:56.532 --> 01:48:00.355 [UNKNOWN]: That's why he's retiring against Satoshi Kojima. 01:48:00.375 --> 01:48:01.296 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to talk later. 01:48:01.876 --> 01:48:07.240 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to talk about a kenta versus marifuji match, which, again, those two guys linked forever. 01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:08.020 [UNKNOWN]: You know? 01:48:09.201 --> 01:48:10.782 [UNKNOWN]: same here with Tenson and Kojima. 01:48:11.603 --> 01:48:22.551 [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, Tenson, one of his most legendary matches, that if you could find it, is that match where, you know, Kojima leaves New Japan for all Japan during the height of a nokeyism. 01:48:22.711 --> 01:48:24.532 [UNKNOWN]: He said, I'm not fucking with any of this shit. 01:48:24.652 --> 01:48:26.274 [UNKNOWN]: You know, put me in there a Miracle Crocodile. 01:48:26.434 --> 01:48:26.954 [UNKNOWN]: No, thank you. 01:48:27.915 --> 01:48:33.659 [UNKNOWN]: Um, becomes a huge star in all Japan, helps them have a nice little, you know, several year period. 01:48:34.964 --> 01:48:40.970 [UNKNOWN]: After a nookyism flames out, New Japan, basically hat in hand, begged Kojima to come back and help them out. 01:48:41.611 --> 01:48:51.922 [UNKNOWN]: They built up this big match with Tenson, and that's that legendary 60 minute match that they had, where Tenson, they do the finish, where Tenson just collapses in exhaustion, like with the bad back or whatever. 01:48:51.942 --> 01:48:53.624 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's an all-time match. 01:48:53.784 --> 01:48:55.145 [UNKNOWN]: That's an all-time New Japan match. 01:48:55.853 --> 01:49:11.037 [UNKNOWN]: You know, where his former partner in rival comes back, representing all Japan, I believe it was title for title in fact, that 2005 match, you know, you have the tens on in Chonover's, Nakanishi and Nishimura, the 60-minute draw. 01:49:11.057 --> 01:49:12.678 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:49:12.818 --> 01:49:14.859 [UNKNOWN]: That's a legitimate all-time great match. 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:20.580 [UNKNOWN]: You have the tens on G1 final against Junakiyama, okay? 01:49:24.351 --> 01:49:25.051 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, the whole time. 01:49:25.071 --> 01:49:26.171 [UNKNOWN]: That's just fucking great. 01:49:26.191 --> 01:49:26.492 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:49:27.272 --> 01:49:30.192 [UNKNOWN]: Man, is that even on a new Japan world? 01:49:30.372 --> 01:49:31.213 [UNKNOWN]: Let me let me see. 01:49:31.393 --> 01:49:32.973 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't seen that match in Eons. 01:49:33.193 --> 01:49:33.633 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let me see it. 01:49:33.653 --> 01:49:33.833 [UNKNOWN]: Tell me. 01:49:33.853 --> 01:49:34.033 [UNKNOWN]: Tell me. 01:49:34.053 --> 01:49:34.593 [UNKNOWN]: He's even on there. 01:49:35.494 --> 01:49:39.355 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's as you look that up. 01:49:39.415 --> 01:49:45.116 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, so, but this was all of these matches are like in the mid-auts. 01:49:46.049 --> 01:49:48.951 [UNKNOWN]: And if you look around YouTube, it is. 01:49:49.011 --> 01:49:49.771 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, perfect. 01:49:50.411 --> 01:49:53.913 [UNKNOWN]: You still got to be behind a paywall, which is your point, which is your point. 01:49:54.273 --> 01:49:56.855 [UNKNOWN]: But this mid-autons New Japan, it's just not out there. 01:49:57.915 --> 01:50:02.798 [UNKNOWN]: It's not out there in like at all, you know, that period is just a rough period. 01:50:03.998 --> 01:50:07.660 [UNKNOWN]: If not just for New Japan, by the way, for most Japanese wrestling of that period. 01:50:09.241 --> 01:50:11.082 [UNKNOWN]: Do this if you're as it just a, 01:50:12.070 --> 01:50:13.071 [UNKNOWN]: intellectual exercise. 01:50:13.151 --> 01:50:13.611 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:50:14.192 --> 01:50:17.595 [UNKNOWN]: Is any of Kojima's prime all-japan stuff on YouTube? 01:50:17.815 --> 01:50:18.295 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:50:18.355 --> 01:50:19.716 [UNKNOWN]: It was less on my, I checked. 01:50:19.736 --> 01:50:20.737 [UNKNOWN]: Let me see if it's still up there. 01:50:20.777 --> 01:50:27.422 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, last time I checked a lot of that stuff is still up there because gay or TV was uploading a lot of the Kojima stuff for a while. 01:50:27.503 --> 01:50:29.224 [UNKNOWN]: So yes, there's official uploads of it. 01:50:29.928 --> 01:50:49.381

[UNKNOWN]: from last time I remember checking yes there is a bunch up there let's see there's Kojima versus Minorsuzuki from 2007 there's Tio Kia versus Satoshi Kojima there is less than I remember there's Satoshi Kojima versus Jamal so if you want that you got that 01:50:49.981 --> 01:50:51.243 [UNKNOWN]: it's a rough period man. 01:50:51.423 --> 01:50:52.464 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's add. 01:50:52.484 --> 01:50:55.689 [UNKNOWN]: There's not as much as I remember they're being unfortunately. 01:50:55.729 --> 01:50:56.510 [UNKNOWN]: I do remember they're there. 01:50:56.830 --> 01:51:02.798 [UNKNOWN]: And that was, there's Kochima versus Tana Hashi from the 2008 champion carnival. 01:51:02.818 --> 01:51:04.000 [UNKNOWN]: So there's, there's, 01:51:05.622 --> 01:51:06.743 [UNKNOWN]: There's a good amount. 01:51:06.883 --> 01:51:07.423 [UNKNOWN]: There's not it. 01:51:07.503 --> 01:51:08.184 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:51:08.244 --> 01:51:11.226 [UNKNOWN]: Could you move versus Kawada front from Malta Pan. 01:51:11.246 --> 01:51:11.787 [UNKNOWN]: That's there. 01:51:12.587 --> 01:51:15.590 [UNKNOWN]: Chamber Carnival final with the Kojima versus Kiji Muto is up there. 01:51:15.630 --> 01:51:21.274 [UNKNOWN]: So there's certainly more of that than there is anything of tens on, but the New Japan's hard man. 01:51:21.494 --> 01:51:22.255 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's rough. 01:51:22.315 --> 01:51:22.515 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:51:23.313 --> 01:51:27.335 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, there are matches where this guy was great. 01:51:27.715 --> 01:51:29.697 [UNKNOWN]: There's legendary matches involving this guy. 01:51:30.437 --> 01:51:34.819 [UNKNOWN]: And I think I agree with your overall point that his retirement's kind of flying under the radar a little bit. 01:51:35.280 --> 01:51:36.480 [UNKNOWN]: And I do think it's for that reason. 01:51:36.860 --> 01:51:37.321 [UNKNOWN]: It's, um, 01:51:38.183 --> 01:51:45.469 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe a lot of fans who came in 2012-ish 2013-ish even later, he was already kind of washed up by that. 01:51:45.989 --> 01:51:47.010 [UNKNOWN]: That's around the time. 01:51:47.810 --> 01:51:54.095 [UNKNOWN]: After Kojima lost the IWGP title to Tanahashi in 2011. 01:51:54.115 --> 01:52:04.623 [UNKNOWN]: When that wrestle came to 2011, Kojima loses Tanahashi, Tanahashi has the year-long run that helps rebuild the company in 2011. 01:52:06.317 --> 01:52:11.864 [UNKNOWN]: and then they immediately move Kojima back into the tag team with Tenson. 01:52:12.726 --> 01:52:14.408 [UNKNOWN]: And that's when Tenskoji reforms. 01:52:15.589 --> 01:52:17.892 [UNKNOWN]: And then they have their, like, 01:52:18.940 --> 01:52:22.062 [UNKNOWN]: I guess you call it second run, second big run as a team. 01:52:22.782 --> 01:52:27.765 [UNKNOWN]: But at that point, they're both older guys and they're both not who they were. 01:52:27.805 --> 01:52:31.127 [UNKNOWN]: Well, tens on wasn't any Kojima was still very good. 01:52:31.488 --> 01:52:33.929 [UNKNOWN]: Kojima hasn't slowed down until like the last couple years. 01:52:34.209 --> 01:52:36.230 [UNKNOWN]: He was good up until a couple of years ago. 01:52:36.811 --> 01:52:38.572 [UNKNOWN]: Tens on head already slowed down by that point. 01:52:39.389 --> 01:52:54.636 [UNKNOWN]: And Tankoji, even though they won the IWGP tag titles and other six or seven times or whatever, that endless series against Killer Elite Squad and a lot of the NWA tag team stuff at that time that was woven into it, that they were a midcard act at that point. 01:52:55.896 --> 01:52:59.018 [UNKNOWN]: The first time around that tag team worked on top of DecentML. 01:53:00.608 --> 01:53:03.170 [UNKNOWN]: You know, that's why they're on the Hall of Fame ballot. 01:53:03.210 --> 01:53:05.912 [UNKNOWN]: They were a legit top team in the business. 01:53:06.553 --> 01:53:08.094 [UNKNOWN]: Not Hall of Fame worthy in my eyes. 01:53:08.574 --> 01:53:10.636 [UNKNOWN]: That's second run during the Bushy Road era. 01:53:10.956 --> 01:53:12.758 [UNKNOWN]: That one in the case, they were just a mid-card act. 01:53:13.615 --> 01:53:18.756 [UNKNOWN]: And Tenson just wasn't so a lot of the point I'm getting to was a lot of fans who jumped in during that era. 01:53:19.177 --> 01:53:32.420 [UNKNOWN]: They just saw Tenson as one of the older guys who was being who was winding down, you know, and people haven't seen some of these matches that we've brought up and you're right because they're so hard to find or you can't find them or they're paywalled. 01:53:32.940 --> 01:53:36.761 [UNKNOWN]: It's unfortunate that people probably won't see them, you know? 01:53:36.841 --> 01:53:38.802 [UNKNOWN]: So I think you make a good point. 01:53:40.048 --> 01:53:40.728 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it just bothered me. 01:53:40.748 --> 01:53:50.292 [UNKNOWN]: And it was something that was just kind of surprised that, yeah, I was just kind of surprised that there was, as we're getting closer and closer to it, it's just, I didn't see any discussion about it. 01:53:50.372 --> 01:53:53.733 [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, I saw Alan, and he was going to bring on Chris Zellner. 01:53:53.753 --> 01:53:55.674 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, yeah, that's the perfect two guys. 01:53:56.414 --> 01:53:57.755 [UNKNOWN]: Talk about it, you go for attention. 01:53:58.135 --> 01:53:59.275 [UNKNOWN]: And they're going to do a fantastic job. 01:53:59.295 --> 01:54:00.436 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm definitely going to listen to that P.W. 01:54:00.456 --> 01:54:01.976 [UNKNOWN]: Torch, make sure of VIP member of P.W. 01:54:01.996 --> 01:54:02.817 [UNKNOWN]: Torch, listen to that one. 01:54:02.857 --> 01:54:03.377 [UNKNOWN]: But, um, 01:54:04.442 --> 01:54:13.069 [UNKNOWN]: It's just it made me think man, there's gonna be he's gonna retire and everybody that's not in that generation of fans is just gonna They're not gonna get it. 01:54:13.089 --> 01:54:13.730 [UNKNOWN]: They're not gonna get it. 01:54:13.850 --> 01:54:14.510 [UNKNOWN]: They're not gonna get it. 01:54:14.530 -->

01:54:17.913 [UNKNOWN]: They're just not gonna understand what this guy I mean, that's gonna be an important show for you listen to you. 01:54:18.013 --> 01:54:19.975 [UNKNOWN]: You went back and watched a lot of this stuff. 01:54:20.035 --> 01:54:27.721 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes But think if you didn't like if I didn't and I only knew him from what I watched in real time I would think the guys a fucking zilch that can't work 01:54:28.348 --> 01:54:51.873 [UNKNOWN]: you know i i recall you can correct me i didn't you do a big g one final series yes you must come across three one yeah so i watched all his two one finals and i did a a rest of kingdom main event series kings of the talk you don't remember whatever so i watch them all in that as well so yeah because he had a several rest of kingdom main events and and obviously several g one main events you want finals because one the g one in in oh eight no no no he won the g one in 01:54:53.056 --> 01:54:54.376 [UNKNOWN]: Not a way around that time. 01:54:54.436 --> 01:54:55.316 [UNKNOWN]: When did he win the G1s? 01:54:55.577 --> 01:54:56.037 [UNKNOWN]: Oh six. 01:54:56.137 --> 01:54:57.157 [UNKNOWN]: Oh six, I want to say. 01:54:57.417 --> 01:54:58.337 [UNKNOWN]: I'll talk my head out. 01:54:58.457 --> 01:54:59.697 [UNKNOWN]: I'll try to correct you. 01:54:59.797 --> 01:55:00.758 [UNKNOWN]: Early the mid-auties. 01:55:00.778 --> 01:55:02.258 [UNKNOWN]: He won a bunch of G1s, didn't he? 01:55:02.378 --> 01:55:02.698 [UNKNOWN]: He won. 01:55:02.898 --> 01:55:03.498 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh yeah. 01:55:04.258 --> 01:55:06.919 [UNKNOWN]: He won, you watched them more recently than me. 01:55:06.939 --> 01:55:10.020 [UNKNOWN]: Me, probably like, oh four, ish, oh four, oh three. 01:55:11.140 --> 01:55:12.180 [UNKNOWN]: I think a way it's a little late. 01:55:12.320 --> 01:55:13.400 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you want to end a way. 01:55:13.480 --> 01:55:14.621 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let me see here. 01:55:14.641 --> 01:55:17.281 [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to G1, a client, a great one, climax here. 01:55:17.321 --> 01:55:18.261 [UNKNOWN]: He won 2003, 2004, and 2006. 01:55:21.214 --> 01:55:21.635 [UNKNOWN]: There you go. 01:55:22.235 --> 01:55:25.299 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh eight was a little late that he they wouldn't he wouldn't have been one. 01:55:25.339 --> 01:55:29.244 [UNKNOWN]: He was a semi finalist in that one, but yeah, he didn't know that was a go to go to one that one. 01:55:29.264 --> 01:55:32.388 [UNKNOWN]: So he won three did he lose any finals? 01:55:32.428 --> 01:55:33.289 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if top man. 01:55:33.529 --> 01:55:35.291 [UNKNOWN]: He, uh, 1997 actually. 01:55:36.593 --> 01:55:39.514 [UNKNOWN]: He was in the G1 Finals in 1997, pretty early in it. 01:55:39.534 --> 01:55:43.135 [UNKNOWN]: Before he would go to WCW on this excursion, he lost the Ken's case of Sacky. 01:55:43.815 --> 01:55:45.836 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm excited about that. 01:55:45.916 --> 01:55:50.377 [UNKNOWN]: So I mean, right there, you

went back and watched every G1 final, what 10 years ago or something. 01:55:50.918 --> 01:55:52.478 [UNKNOWN]: And then obviously, you've seen everyone since then. 01:55:52.558 --> 01:55:58.480 [UNKNOWN]: So you're someone who didn't, you weren't trained tapes, and you weren't in it like the people you named. 01:55:59.160 --> 01:56:04.242 [UNKNOWN]: But you went back and watched every G1 final for a project. 01:56:05.142 --> 01:56:07.643 [UNKNOWN]: And you've seen everyone since then, you know what I mean? 01:56:07.663 --> 01:56:18.449 [UNKNOWN]: So it's like, but someone in your shoes who wasn't doing something like this, they don't know anything about tens on, which speaks to your point, prime tens on. 01:56:18.469 --> 01:56:19.929 [UNKNOWN]: They don't know anything about patterns on. 01:56:20.830 --> 01:56:27.673 [UNKNOWN]: So hopefully this discussion for some of our listeners, maybe they'll go seek out some of these matches that we threw out there. 01:56:27.713 --> 01:56:30.795 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe they'll go listen to Alan Show at Zelner. 01:56:31.569 --> 01:56:34.452 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe they'll just go try to explore in their own, cause that's a fair point. 01:56:34.492 --> 01:56:38.776 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen, listen, this shows sold out weeks ago. 01:56:39.757 --> 01:56:41.378 [UNKNOWN]: So it's a big deal in Japan. 01:56:42.299 --> 01:56:43.700 [UNKNOWN]: These retirements shows are money. 01:56:44.021 --> 01:56:45.942 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they just they work everywhere. 01:56:46.082 --> 01:56:51.547 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, no matter who it is, like you do a retirement show, people are buying tickets to that shit. 01:56:52.368 --> 01:56:55.551 [UNKNOWN]: And this shows sold out before the G1 final. 01:56:55.631 --> 01:56:57.233 [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know if the final sold out yet. 01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:03.685 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the next night is sold out yet, but I know the semi final has long since been sold out. 01:57:04.546 --> 01:57:09.870 [UNKNOWN]: So they're gonna have a maybe a little bit of an old school crowd. 01:57:09.890 --> 01:57:13.494 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there's some people coming to that show who haven't come to New Japan shows in years, right? 01:57:13.874 --> 01:57:14.535 [UNKNOWN]: Cause it's 10's on. 01:57:14.815 --> 01:57:15.295 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, yeah. 01:57:15.415 --> 01:57:23.443 [UNKNOWN]: People that were big time fans in 2008 or whatever and stopped watching or gratitude or whatever, but have a soft spot for 10's on. 01:57:24.948 --> 01:57:28.990 [UNKNOWN]: I just clicked over to the chat and there are people talking about a lot of great matches they remember. 01:57:29.010 --> 01:57:29.851 [UNKNOWN]: So that's good. 01:57:30.471 --> 01:57:34.553 [UNKNOWN]: There are people in our chat who are sharing memories of watching this guy in this prime. 01:57:34.694 --> 01:57:36.074 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not too worried about our circle. 01:57:36.314 --> 01:57:38.316 [UNKNOWN]: I think our circle is pretty good. 01:57:38.736 --> 01:57:45.860 [UNKNOWN]: I worry about anything that's not the circle, but I also worry about how much wrestling knowledge and how much wrestling people outside of, you know. 01:57:47.045 --> 01:57:53.349 [UNKNOWN]: Like how the next generation coming up, how ambitious are they about watching the consuming as much as possible? 01:57:53.369 --> 01:57:57.692 [UNKNOWN]: How would they get a think of his legacy versus who saw the great stuff? 01:57:57.892 --> 01:57:58.092 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:57:59.333 --> 01:58:01.255 [UNKNOWN]: He had a presence about him for sure in his prime. 01:58:01.275 --> 01:58:02.615 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he looked like a badass. 01:58:02.715 --> 01:58:03.936 [UNKNOWN]: That's how the hair was awesome. 01:58:03.976 --> 01:58:06.218 [UNKNOWN]: And then the big eye tall guy. 01:58:07.219 --> 01:58:10.040 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it's just he looked like a monster. 01:58:10.080 --> 01:58:11.101 [UNKNOWN]: Like a movie monster. 01:58:11.121 --> 01:58:11.742 [UNKNOWN]: Like he, you know. 01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:13.900 [UNKNOWN]: Listen, he's no Tom Cruise. 01:58:14.120 --> 01:58:28.823 [UNKNOWN]: So in the face, you know, you know, ugly, peel-face, and, you know, he had a definite aura and presence around him that he was an ass kicking mother fucker when he was in his prime. 01:58:29.703 --> 01:58:33.804 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, look, look, he's not my favorite worker of all time. 01:58:34.764 --> 01:58:39.945 [UNKNOWN]: Probably not, my favorite top 300 favorite workers of all time, but there's no question he had legendary matches. 01:58:40.565 --> 01:58:41.465 [UNKNOWN]: There's no question about it. 01:58:42.873 --> 01:58:45.661 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was notable in that promotion, you know, obviously. 01:58:45.741 --> 01:58:46.964 [UNKNOWN]: I see them don't call a thing. 01:58:47.045 --> 01:58:50.595 [UNKNOWN]: And they're in their, some of their darkest times or whatever, but obviously it was still, you know. 01:58:51.509 --> 01:58:52.370 [UNKNOWN]: still deserve some credit. 01:58:52.390 --> 01:58:58.854 [UNKNOWN]: He unfortunately falls in the huge negata pile too, where it's like, yeah, people would just have to be a star. 01:58:58.974 --> 01:58:59.835 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 01:58:59.995 --> 01:59:05.358 [UNKNOWN]: And Kojima too, his credit realized that bounced and probably helped his legacy in a big way. 01:59:06.199 --> 01:59:09.561 [UNKNOWN]: He went mad, you know, great matches for eight years forever in the game back. 01:59:09.581 --> 01:59:12.263 [UNKNOWN]: It was like, okay, you guys, though with this bullshit, all right, I'll come back now. 01:59:12.764 --> 01:59:14.745 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, they begged them back. 01:59:14.925 --> 01:59:18.648 [UNKNOWN]: That was, they knew that that they didn't have a lot of money matches on the table. 01:59:19.569 --> 01:59:29.796 [UNKNOWN]: And they knew that bringing back Kojima and doing that title for title deal with Tenson was going to be one of the best things that they could

put together at that time. 01:59:30.216 --> 01:59:36.380 [UNKNOWN]: And Kojima, you know, in a lot of ways, graciously came back and did that. 01:59:36.400 --> 01:59:37.761 [UNKNOWN]: But of course, he had to go over. 01:59:37.801 --> 01:59:39.182 [UNKNOWN]: So they found the creative way. 01:59:39.202 --> 01:59:40.483 [UNKNOWN]: You know, they did that. 01:59:41.004 --> 01:59:44.266 [UNKNOWN]: Remember the finish like his back gave out, Tenson's back gave out or whatever. 01:59:44.346 --> 01:59:46.147 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like that's a lot of shame he passed out. 01:59:46.968 --> 01:59:48.589 [UNKNOWN]: And that was title for title. 01:59:49.442 --> 01:59:58.789 [UNKNOWN]: That was title for title and just to show you the amount of stroke that Kojima had at that time due to the state New Japan was in. 01:59:59.970 --> 02:00:05.855 [UNKNOWN]: He was the triple crown champ and the invader and he won the IWGP title in that match. 02:00:05.915 --> 02:00:07.916 [UNKNOWN]: Now they protected tens on from a fall. 02:00:09.996 --> 02:00:11.177 [UNKNOWN]: You know, you're working to get everything. 02:00:11.197 --> 02:00:13.159 [UNKNOWN]: You're working to hit him with the Western Lariat. 02:00:13.179 --> 02:00:13.320 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 02:00:13.340 --> 02:00:14.241 [UNKNOWN]: That's a lot. 02:00:14.281 --> 02:00:22.309 [UNKNOWN]: And put on his chest and and you know, but yeah, I mean, that just goes to show like and and always in these things, the high ground wins. 02:00:22.409 --> 02:00:27.315 [UNKNOWN]: We know that and it's crazy, but New Japan was definitely not in the high ground in that situation. 02:00:27.435 --> 02:00:30.318 [UNKNOWN]: He also, I believe he's the founder of Great Bash Hill, right? 02:00:30.867 --> 02:00:34.229 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he lasted very long as the leader of Great Bashy, but I think that is his unit. 02:00:34.289 --> 02:00:36.971 [UNKNOWN]: Is something like that, yeah, it was a messy history. 02:00:37.011 --> 02:00:38.471 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that brings a bell, though. 02:00:39.052 --> 02:00:41.393 [UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure he found a Great Bashy. 02:00:41.413 --> 02:00:43.895 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how long he was running it, but yeah. 02:00:45.255 --> 02:00:47.057 [UNKNOWN]: So that's, I'll be interested. 02:00:49.115 --> 02:00:51.218 [UNKNOWN]: Is it going to be really sad to watch and wrestle? 02:00:51.259 --> 02:00:53.422 [UNKNOWN]: Is it going to be cathartic to watch and wrestle? 02:00:53.462 --> 02:00:53.843 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 02:00:53.863 --> 02:00:54.303 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 02:00:54.404 --> 02:00:55.926 [UNKNOWN]: You're not watching something like that. 02:00:55.946 --> 02:00:56.787 [UNKNOWN]: But criticalize. 02:00:56.908 --> 02:00:57.388 [UNKNOWN]: No. 02:00:57.428 --> 02:00:58.390 [UNKNOWN]: It's going to stink. 02:00:58.570 --> 02:00:59.512 [UNKNOWN]: We know it's going to stink. 02:00:59.852 --> 02:01:00.373 [UNKNOWN]: Who cares? 02:01:02.460 --> 02:01:05.741 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's

not like Muto going out there on his retirement. 02:01:05.781 --> 02:01:08.362 [UNKNOWN]: He's like trying to have good match. 02:01:08.382 --> 02:01:17.525 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think you're going to go, I don't think him and Kojima are in the back figuring out the best possible fight, you know, the running it all back in five minutes. 02:01:17.545 --> 02:01:18.885 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think they're just going to have a little fun. 02:01:18.905 --> 02:01:19.805 [UNKNOWN]: Do some chops, do some. 02:01:19.825 --> 02:01:21.646 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not won't be. 02:01:21.986 --> 02:01:23.987 [UNKNOWN]: He won't be waving off Jado. 02:01:24.067 --> 02:01:24.907 [UNKNOWN]: No time for chairs. 02:01:24.987 --> 02:01:25.807 [UNKNOWN]: I'm working out my match. 02:01:25.847 --> 02:01:26.428 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right. 02:01:28.468 --> 02:01:30.810 [UNKNOWN]: Now, Ted's son doesn't have to pick up any fucking shares. 02:01:31.190 --> 02:01:32.812 [UNKNOWN]: Zane Jack, pick up some fucking shares. 02:01:33.212 --> 02:01:36.334 [UNKNOWN]: Like, hundred percent, hundred percent. 02:01:37.855 --> 02:01:49.724 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my God, these these dewebs in America, can you imagine if like the Japanese wrestling culture if they even had a sniff of the Japanese wrestling culture of fucking make us food, clean the fucking dojo? 02:01:49.744 --> 02:01:54.348 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, Jesus, and these guys are upset because somebody has to gotta pick up three shares. 02:01:54.938 --> 02:01:56.979 [UNKNOWN]: I can the day they'd like scrub down their balls. 02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.279 [UNKNOWN]: Right, I don't think scrubbing their backs like that. 02:01:59.299 --> 02:02:00.740 [UNKNOWN]: Right, I don't know that might be too far. 02:02:00.760 --> 02:02:01.560 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's true. 02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:04.141 [UNKNOWN]: Now listen, we gotta evolve a little, you know? 02:02:04.221 --> 02:02:06.301 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think we've tested that a little bit, but... 02:02:06.521 --> 02:02:09.402 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think they need to be scrubbing the balls of their cent pie. 02:02:09.422 --> 02:02:11.783 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they need to be fluffing their cent pie as much. 02:02:12.223 --> 02:02:14.944 [UNKNOWN]: Right, but you know, you can grab a fucking chair. 02:02:15.284 --> 02:02:17.024 [UNKNOWN]: But yes, tens on does not need to grab a chair. 02:02:17.044 --> 02:02:17.785 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no. 02:02:18.345 --> 02:02:21.826 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I once took a piss next to tens on in San Antonio. 02:02:22.786 --> 02:02:36.272 [UNKNOWN]: and he was standing there in his wrestling gear, you know, presumably with his hog just hanging over the top of his tights with no t-shirt and a sig hanging from his lips as he was standing at the urinal. 02:02:36.873 --> 02:02:39.614 [UNKNOWN]: So he's ripping a sig while he's taking a piss at the urinal. 02:02:40.014 --> 02:02:40.994 [UNKNOWN]: He had his wrestling 02:02:44.656 --> 02:03:03.748 [UNKNOWN]: and he had to sing hanging

out of his mouth and he took that piss and then he ripped the sing and you know just marched out of that bathroom and yeah that that's a real core memory of mind and if it isn't end of you a title match this was when the new Japan and New Jersey shows 02:03:05.022 --> 02:03:05.942 [UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't, I didn't go. 02:03:05.962 --> 02:03:31.931 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 02:03:33.754 --> 02:03:34.115 [UNKNOWN]: shit. 02:03:34.818 --> 02:03:36.566 [UNKNOWN]: I can't remember who else, but um... 02:03:38.352 --> 02:03:53.321 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, the San Antonio show, I remember that they got there late there the whole day, when he opened the doors, the mini van pulls up, the New Japan crew pours out of the van, like or with just one part of his mask, because you know, he's got the part that covers his face. 02:03:53.361 --> 02:03:54.281 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, yes, yes. 02:03:54.762 --> 02:04:01.306 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so he had that on and Codani piled out of the air, because Codani was at these shows. 02:04:01.526 --> 02:04:03.447 [UNKNOWN]: With his 24 pack of diaco. 02:04:03.787 --> 02:04:15.221 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, now those shows that's kind of a blew up the relationship between the Bruce Tharp era of the NWA in New Japan because I think Kadani was less than impressed with those two shows. 02:04:16.503 --> 02:04:21.408 [UNKNOWN]: And it kind of all spiraled in fellow part from there, but 02:04:23.063 --> 02:04:27.324 [UNKNOWN]: someone was hurt was a Kojima who got hurt and couldn't work those shows and I was disappointed. 02:04:27.904 --> 02:04:32.725 [UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure it was because I think Tenson worked either singles matches or teamed with somebody else. 02:04:33.685 --> 02:04:40.187 [UNKNOWN]: But, yeah, Tenson, yeah, someone in the chat saying they met Tenson San Antonio on the NBA. 02:04:40.207 --> 02:04:40.727 [UNKNOWN]: That's the show. 02:04:41.367 --> 02:04:43.328 [UNKNOWN]: That was the NBA show in San Antonio. 02:04:45.261 --> 02:04:50.183 [UNKNOWN]: Gato wrestled the match on that show where he didn't take a single bump and he was the most over a new Japan wrestler on the show. 02:04:50.203 --> 02:04:51.504 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 02:04:51.664 --> 02:04:54.285 [UNKNOWN]: He was so great on that show and I think we reviewed it. 02:04:54.685 --> 02:04:55.865 [UNKNOWN]: That show was probably lost the time. 02:04:56.706 --> 02:04:57.426 [UNKNOWN]: Um, no. 02:04:57.446 --> 02:04:57.786 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe not. 02:04:57.806 --> 02:04:58.307 [UNKNOWN]: I think it was 2014. 02:04:58.327 --> 02:04:59.687 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, none of those. 02:04:59.767

--> 02:05:00.788 [UNKNOWN]: Those might be around still. 02:05:01.448 --> 02:05:05.570 [UNKNOWN]: But, um, God, he was, Gato was brilliant in that match. 02:05:06.450 --> 02:05:09.571 [UNKNOWN]: And, um, you know, Liger was over big. 02:05:10.272 --> 02:05:10.752 [UNKNOWN]: But, um, 02:05:11.498 --> 02:05:16.259 [UNKNOWN]: because they held tryouts to, New Japan, and on the, well, they held tryouts on the Houston show. 02:05:16.879 --> 02:05:30.903 [UNKNOWN]: I do remember that, because I remember Ricky Stark's tryout that day in Houston, and I remember talking to him about that and asking him how it went and everything, but I don't think they ran tryouts in San Antonio. 02:05:31.483 --> 02:05:32.984 [UNKNOWN]: No, they didn't, because they got their late. 02:05:33.084 --> 02:05:33.484 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 02:05:33.544 --> 02:05:35.505 [UNKNOWN]: They got their late, the show was held up. 02:05:36.345 --> 02:05:36.565 [UNKNOWN]: So, 02:05:37.799 --> 02:05:38.760 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's where I met Codani. 02:05:38.780 --> 02:05:40.242 [UNKNOWN]: I met Codani at the San Antonio show. 02:05:40.262 --> 02:05:42.044 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he was upset there. 02:05:42.145 --> 02:05:45.269 [UNKNOWN]: He was not upset, but he was curious on how you were watching me today. 02:05:45.569 --> 02:05:48.092 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I had Schofunaki translated for me. 02:05:48.513 --> 02:05:54.821 [UNKNOWN]: I grabbed Schofunaki and asked him to translate, because he was just wandering around, because he lives in Schofunaki at the time was insane. 02:05:54.841 --> 02:05:56.463 [UNKNOWN]: He has the training school in San Stil. 02:05:56.823 --> 02:05:57.664 [UNKNOWN]: I think he's still out there, right? 02:05:57.724 --> 02:06:01.548 [UNKNOWN]: I think, yeah, Michael Jesse's just his works business shows all the time, so I think he's still out there. 02:06:01.568 --> 02:06:02.329 [UNKNOWN]: He's not ki, that's right. 02:06:02.629 --> 02:06:06.373 [UNKNOWN]: And so he was there, I guess, you know, either helping out. 02:06:06.393 --> 02:06:07.975 [UNKNOWN]: He, I don't think he didn't wrestle on the show. 02:06:08.455 --> 02:06:15.623 [UNKNOWN]: And so he translated for me and I explained to Kadani who I was and how I was watching New Japan on Eustream. 02:06:15.763 --> 02:06:17.004 [UNKNOWN]: Because they were on Eustream at that. 02:06:17.024 --> 02:06:17.725 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 02:06:18.386 --> 02:06:19.487 [UNKNOWN]: And so it was Dragon Gate. 02:06:20.668 --> 02:06:23.812 [UNKNOWN]: Bro, we were paying like $40 per hour. 02:06:24.052 --> 02:06:25.374 [UNKNOWN]: There was that one G1 package. 02:06:25.394 --> 02:06:26.915 [UNKNOWN]: That one year, it's 2013 or whatever. 02:06:26.935 --> 02:06:29.878 [UNKNOWN]: Like 300 dollars. 02:06:29.939 --> 02:06:30.399 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:06:30.479 --> 02:06:31.901 [UNKNOWN]: One shows and it's like, yes. 02:06:32.241 --> 02:06:32.802 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, please. 02:06:32.862 --> 02:06:33.482 [UNKNOWN]: I'm down. 02:06:34.448 --> 02:06:53.596 [UNKNOWN]: yeah and he he he asked me he looked confused and he was like said whatever to funake funake he's like uh... he doesn't understand what you stream is and i was like wait a minute i'm buying his shows on i'm making money on the server right like who's who's who's broadcast and he seemed confused by it but then like funake he said whatever and then he 02:06:53.996 --> 02:07:05.471 [UNKNOWN]: like Codani was going oh oh oh like nodding his head so I don't know what the fuck happened there but then um I took it's the one and only mark pick I've ever taken in my life was with Codani because I was like I gotta take a picture with it. 02:07:05.511 --> 02:07:08.856 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah oh yeah with the office guy with the Japanese office guy for sure yeah 02:07:09.136 --> 02:07:14.498 [UNKNOWN]: Honestly, the only reason I took it was it's ascended to you like I didn't post it anywhere You know how I am a pig. 02:07:14.518 --> 02:07:18.240 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think he has a coke in his hand if I remember correctly And that's nice making a fist. 02:07:18.400 --> 02:07:30.365 [UNKNOWN]: He's making a fist So he's making the fist in it because you got to make a fist when you're in a wrestler picture and I remember I sent you to picture and you're like it looks like he's smelling a fart and I was like well Because he I probably did fart. 02:07:30.526 --> 02:07:35.548 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, so it might be right is that look on his face But but yeah, that was the show. 02:07:35.608 --> 02:07:36.768 [UNKNOWN]: That's that's the same show. 02:07:36.808 --> 02:07:37.949 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's San Antonio show 02:07:38.815 --> 02:07:38.920 [UNKNOWN]: I'm 02:07:40.106 --> 02:07:43.668 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, he was just, oh my god, he was double-fist in the Diet Coke's. 02:07:43.928 --> 02:07:45.429 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, just non-fucking stop. 02:07:46.049 --> 02:07:52.473 [UNKNOWN]: Everyone, Monty Brown was at that show, he showed up, because he's close to Lance Archer. 02:07:52.593 --> 02:07:54.514 [UNKNOWN]: And Lance Archer worked the show. 02:07:55.094 --> 02:07:59.857 [UNKNOWN]: So Monty Brown came down, he was hanging out, Mike a Taylor, remember Mike a Taylor? 02:07:59.877 --> 02:08:00.978 [UNKNOWN]: Of course, first away. 02:08:01.438 --> 02:08:08.342 [UNKNOWN]: He worked the show, and then I spent probably a half hour talking to him after the show, because he had just been on our show. 02:08:09.062 --> 02:08:25.261 [UNKNOWN]: So I introduced myself and we had a long conversation and VP was at that show as you know just hanging around So when the New Japan crew came in the town that was that was you know the whole Texas fucking crew Congregated at at at that one 02:08:26.983 --> 02:08:30.924 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Kojima was injured though and didn't work either shot. 02:08:30.944 --> 02:08:34.565 [UNKNOWN]: I don't even think they brought them over But I tell you who was brought over as a young boy. 02:08:34.585 --> 02:08:35.325

[UNKNOWN]: Haromu. 02:08:35.605 --> 02:08:42.487 [UNKNOWN]: Haromu was on was was the young boy on those shows And he was doing all the young boy like carrying all the bags and shit. 02:08:42.567 --> 02:08:42.867 [UNKNOWN]: What's him? 02:08:43.267 --> 02:08:43.587 [UNKNOWN]: Why? 02:08:43.948 --> 02:08:45.408 [UNKNOWN]: And oh, yeah, yeah 02:08:46.597 --> 02:08:49.999 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're from on paid labor on paid labor. 02:08:50.119 --> 02:08:50.499 [UNKNOWN]: Yikes. 02:08:50.859 --> 02:08:51.200 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:08:51.420 --> 02:08:52.400 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you guys guys. 02:08:52.460 --> 02:08:54.721 [UNKNOWN]: You should have waged your finger at Codani. 02:08:54.862 --> 02:08:56.042 [UNKNOWN]: Shame on you, sir. 02:08:57.203 --> 02:08:57.803 [UNKNOWN]: Actually, you know what? 02:08:57.843 --> 02:08:58.764 [UNKNOWN]: It might not have been her own move. 02:08:58.784 --> 02:08:59.944 [UNKNOWN]: It might have been, no, I'm wrong. 02:08:59.964 --> 02:09:00.565 [UNKNOWN]: It was despy. 02:09:00.785 --> 02:09:01.525 [UNKNOWN]: Now that I think about it. 02:09:02.165 --> 02:09:03.426 [UNKNOWN]: Either way, it was Mokami. 02:09:03.866 --> 02:09:04.667 [UNKNOWN]: That's despy, right? 02:09:04.927 --> 02:09:07.188 [UNKNOWN]: Mokami, let me pull this up. 02:09:07.428 --> 02:09:08.689 [UNKNOWN]: Now, I'm almost positive as despy. 02:09:08.709 --> 02:09:10.430 [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't her own move. 02:09:10.937 --> 02:09:12.418 [UNKNOWN]: a pre-eldesparado. 02:09:12.498 --> 02:09:15.600 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's be doing the ring boy shit. 02:09:16.401 --> 02:09:18.722 [UNKNOWN]: And he may have even wrestled on the Houston show. 02:09:18.762 --> 02:09:19.543 [UNKNOWN]: I can't remember, though. 02:09:19.923 --> 02:09:22.505 [UNKNOWN]: Short of the night thought when I saw him in Vegas, much shorter than I thought. 02:09:22.525 --> 02:09:23.686 [UNKNOWN]: No, that's me's not a big guy at all. 02:09:23.706 --> 02:09:24.526 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, very short. 02:09:25.107 --> 02:09:25.347 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:09:26.267 --> 02:09:30.048 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mixed him up with her own because they both went to CMLL for their own. 02:09:30.928 --> 02:09:33.388 [UNKNOWN]: And the fact, in fact, now it's a little coming together. 02:09:34.028 --> 02:09:36.309 [UNKNOWN]: He went straight to Mexico, off of those two shows. 02:09:36.469 --> 02:09:37.109 [UNKNOWN]: That's what it was. 02:09:37.189 --> 02:09:39.409 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he got the flight and they were like, all right, well, you're not that far. 02:09:39.429 --> 02:09:40.390 [UNKNOWN]: So here we go. 02:09:40.410 --> 02:09:44.250 [UNKNOWN]: So start driving kid, you know, arena Mexico that way. 02:09:44.510 --> 02:09:46.471 [UNKNOWN]: You know, that was it. 02:09:46.611 --> 02:09:46.891 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:09:47.971 --> 02:09:49.151 [UNKNOWN]: Man, a lot of memories shit there. 02:09:49.171 --> 02:09:50.531 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I'll see when you leave the house. 02:09:50.991 --> 02:09:52.372 [UNKNOWN]: When you leave

the house, you get to leave the house. 02:09:52.392 --> 02:09:53.072 [UNKNOWN]: Listen to this guy. 02:09:53.372 --> 02:09:54.132 [UNKNOWN]: Listen to this guy. 02:09:57.601 --> 02:09:58.882 [UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about the G1 air in a minute. 02:09:59.103 --> 02:10:07.732 [UNKNOWN]: I think I've told my pissing next to a wrestler story with the Nigel McGinnis one time I was in a weight in line the pee at a ring of iron show 02:10:08.956 --> 02:10:10.437 [UNKNOWN]: And it's it's right before the main event. 02:10:10.457 --> 02:10:11.997 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's like Nigel versus Daniel Center. 02:10:12.017 --> 02:10:13.418 [UNKNOWN]: Some it's an awesome match. 02:10:13.438 --> 02:10:19.581 [UNKNOWN]: It's like at all the sudden Nigel walks in to the bathroom Like there's a long line. 02:10:19.601 --> 02:10:29.285 [UNKNOWN]: He's looking around and then in like I can't do hit the Nigel voice or whatever But in the best in the most British most Nigel voice is like, hey, can I jump ahead of you guys? 02:10:29.425 --> 02:10:34.847 [UNKNOWN]: I'm up here in a minute I'm like oh, yeah, yeah, sure and he's pissing and his song starts to play as he's pissing. 02:10:34.888 --> 02:10:35.308 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, oh 02:10:36.228 --> 02:10:54.084 [UNKNOWN]: We're like oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 02:10:56.858 --> 02:10:57.718 [UNKNOWN]: He did watch his hands. 02:10:57.738 --> 02:11:01.140 [UNKNOWN]: He did watch his hands with that he read out there, and it was so good to watch him, you know. 02:11:01.160 --> 02:11:02.100 [UNKNOWN]: Hi, listen. 02:11:02.400 --> 02:11:12.984 [UNKNOWN]: You know, a minute and a half later walk out through their curtain, like, ah, you know, like he's just when he's, when he's fucking iron, I don't think, I don't think, tens on watch, just hands. 02:11:13.384 --> 02:11:22.207 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 02:11:23.058 --> 02:11:25.539 [UNKNOWN]: He wants the wrestle with his fucking dick skin hands. 02:11:25.559 --> 02:11:27.000 [UNKNOWN]: He can do that if he wants it. 02:11:27.220 --> 02:11:28.241 [UNKNOWN]: It's really fucking tons. 02:11:28.281 --> 02:11:28.921 [UNKNOWN]: I don't use it. 02:11:29.982 --> 02:11:31.983 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, good stuff. 02:11:32.203 --> 02:11:35.785 [UNKNOWN]: But, all right, we have our semi-final set for the G1. 02:11:36.746 --> 02:11:39.668 [UNKNOWN]: Calum Newman versus Roheo Ewa in the one match. 02:11:40.208 --> 02:11:43.890 [UNKNOWN]: And Yota Suji versus

Yua Ewa in the other match. 02:11:43.950 --> 02:11:46.932 [UNKNOWN]: So, one of those four men will be your G1. 02:11:46.952 --> 02:11:48.172 [UNKNOWN]: 36 seconds. 02:11:48.272 --> 02:11:50.974 [UNKNOWN]: One of those four men will be a first time G1 champion. 02:11:54.615 --> 02:11:57.217 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my brain's sugy, but I forgot that to question it one last year. 02:11:57.938 --> 02:11:58.598 [UNKNOWN]: Face the facts. 02:11:58.758 --> 02:11:59.019 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:11:59.079 --> 02:11:59.779 [UNKNOWN]: That's a fact. 02:12:00.540 --> 02:12:01.841 [UNKNOWN]: We haven't done a face the facts. 02:12:02.301 --> 02:12:04.143 [UNKNOWN]: No, number of face the facts. 02:12:04.263 --> 02:12:04.723 [UNKNOWN]: I do. 02:12:04.964 --> 02:12:05.264 [UNKNOWN]: I do. 02:12:05.364 --> 02:12:05.844 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, fucking. 02:12:05.864 --> 02:12:07.886 [UNKNOWN]: What was the name, uh, Brian? 02:12:07.906 --> 02:12:09.427 [UNKNOWN]: My guy, Brian, my face. 02:12:09.447 --> 02:12:10.028 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thanks. 02:12:12.069 --> 02:12:13.711 [UNKNOWN]: I don't have to apologize to you as well. 02:12:13.991 --> 02:12:19.596 [UNKNOWN]: I, uh, I was gaslighting you last week as the, uh, the folks would say about, uh, you're in prompt news. 02:12:19.656 --> 02:12:20.676 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, that was never the name. 02:12:20.696 --> 02:12:21.397 [UNKNOWN]: You made that name up. 02:12:21.417 --> 02:12:22.198 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, and 02:12:23.206 --> 02:12:29.388 [UNKNOWN]: as luck would have it on the flagship 24-7 channel, like the day after we did that show last week, someone was listening to that. 02:12:29.428 --> 02:12:32.509 [UNKNOWN]: Superb likes Barry, long time listener, long, long time listener. 02:12:32.529 --> 02:12:35.610 [UNKNOWN]: You know, she points, she's like, no, imprap news. 02:12:35.630 --> 02:12:38.131 [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, he didn't call it imprap, she's like, yes, he called it imprap news. 02:12:38.491 --> 02:12:39.031 [UNKNOWN]: Like what? 02:12:39.651 --> 02:12:40.751 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, thank you. 02:12:41.832 --> 02:12:47.994 [UNKNOWN]: So in my brain, I never knew of it as being called imprap news, but I wasn't able to imprap news, even from day one. 02:12:48.034 --> 02:12:52.575 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, yeah, I accept your apology. 02:12:54.530 --> 02:12:55.290 [UNKNOWN]: That wasn't fact. 02:12:55.390 --> 02:12:57.012 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and we did multiple segments. 02:12:57.172 --> 02:13:01.936 [UNKNOWN]: I just never remember being called in prompt news, but I don't remember face the facts though. 02:13:01.956 --> 02:13:12.725 [UNKNOWN]: We used to always do the I would always do the finger guns to every time I said Yeah, I just didn't know He's the facts that gimmick didn't go very much for us. 02:13:12.785 --> 02:13:21.553 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we loved it, but Yeah, yeah, the next generation of Joey legend for Brian Myers did not work very well 02:13:27.788 --> 02:13:29.449 [UNKNOWN]: Speaking of impromptu, there's no way. 02:13:29.489 -->

02:13:33.170 [UNKNOWN]: What do you got? 02:13:33.190 --> 02:13:37.232 [UNKNOWN]: The Democrats are trying to take over your taxes. 02:13:37.252 --> 02:13:37.872 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:37.892 --> 02:13:38.492 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:38.512 --> 02:13:39.173 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:39.193 --> 02:13:40.273 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:40.293 --> 02:13:40.973 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:40.993 --> 02:13:41.614 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:41.674 --> 02:13:42.474 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:42.494 --> 02:13:43.174 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:43.194 --> 02:13:43.755 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:43.775 --> 02:13:44.335 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:44.355 --> 02:13:44.935 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:44.955 --> 02:13:45.675 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:45.695 --> 02:13:46.336 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:46.356 --> 02:13:46.976 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:46.996 --> 02:13:47.556 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:47.576 --> 02:13:48.877 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:48.897 --> 02:13:50.117 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:50.137 --> 02:13:51.718 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:51.738 --> 02:13:52.618 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:52.978 --> 02:13:53.979 [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to come over. 02:13:55.676 --> 02:13:57.636 [UNKNOWN]: I have one new story for you to react to. 02:14:01.297 --> 02:14:03.118 [UNKNOWN]: Marty Skurl is in the news. 02:14:03.598 --> 02:14:08.119 [UNKNOWN]: He is the new fifth. 02:14:08.439 --> 02:14:10.079 [UNKNOWN]: I'm playing the fifth already. 02:14:10.159 --> 02:14:10.900 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no. 02:14:11.140 --> 02:14:11.900 [UNKNOWN]: You know the game. 02:14:12.080 --> 02:14:12.960 [UNKNOWN]: You must react. 02:14:13.220 --> 02:14:13.700 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 02:14:15.941 --> 02:14:17.041 [UNKNOWN]: I've been waiting all week for this. 02:14:18.521 --> 02:14:19.962 [UNKNOWN]: Marty Skurl is in the news. 02:14:22.242 --> 02:14:22.882 [UNKNOWN]: He is the new. 02:14:24.083 --> 02:14:25.343 [UNKNOWN]: Heat up champion. 02:14:27.472 --> 02:14:31.135 [UNKNOWN]: Rich Creech, you're take on a new heat up champion. 02:14:32.496 --> 02:14:43.826 [UNKNOWN]: Marty Skurl, the villain, Marty Skurl, I will say one thing that I found very interesting about this is when I did see the photo making the rounds of Marty Skurl holding up the heat up championship. 02:14:43.886 --> 02:14:54.034 [UNKNOWN]: I saw people being like, yes, I wish this guy would just get out of the eye, I hate this guy, I look like Marty's a bad dude and I don't want Marty and he's wrestling 02:14:56.568 --> 02:14:58.869 [UNKNOWN]: he's he's reached the bottom of the fucking barrel. 02:14:59.329 --> 02:15:13.113 [UNKNOWN]: I watched this guy wrestle in front of like 11 people at a fucking loss of egg It's wrestling a weekend show two years ago at that fucking tequila and the topless Topless dancers bottomless tequila so that girl like I saw it work on that show he's working heat up like 02:15:13.853 --> 02:15:40.938 [UNKNOWN]: he's as low as you can go he it's he lives a pathetic pathetic life just just it's okay it's fine don't get upset about him winning the heat-up championship do you really care about heat-up enough to get mad at Marta scrolls the heat-up champion like i almost like it i almost like it better that he hasn't just quit and gotten a job at the dock i love that he's still trying to make it a go but it's like the only place that'll hire him or fucking heat-up and and topless tequila their topless dancers buy almost tequila 02:15:41.714 --> 02:15:44.357 [UNKNOWN]: Rust many weekend shows is essentially all you can work. 02:15:44.377 --> 02:15:45.499 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, have you looked at his cage match? 02:15:45.539 --> 02:15:48.162 [UNKNOWN]: It is ridiculous. 02:15:49.283 --> 02:15:52.987 [UNKNOWN]: Most of the shows he works don't even make it to cage match, right? 02:15:54.449 --> 02:16:01.297 [UNKNOWN]: The point you're making and that I agree with is that if you wanted Marty Skurl banished from wrestling you got one you got it 02:16:02.418 --> 02:16:02.978 [UNKNOWN]: You won. 02:16:03.118 --> 02:16:03.579 [UNKNOWN]: It's over. 02:16:03.759 --> 02:16:04.579 [UNKNOWN]: You won that battle. 02:16:04.859 --> 02:16:07.921 [UNKNOWN]: He is banished from wrestling. 02:16:08.001 --> 02:16:08.441 [UNKNOWN]: He works. 02:16:08.821 --> 02:16:13.104 [UNKNOWN]: Remember, he worked at Bar Show in some Caribbean island last year. 02:16:13.124 --> 02:16:15.525 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for all Caribbean wrestling, I think. 02:16:15.565 --> 02:16:16.945 [UNKNOWN]: You're, you're, you're, you're companies. 02:16:17.246 --> 02:16:17.786 [UNKNOWN]: Was it AC? 02:16:17.866 --> 02:16:18.406 [UNKNOWN]: I think it was. 02:16:18.466 --> 02:16:18.967 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 02:16:19.007 --> 02:16:20.067 [UNKNOWN]: He's ACW adjacent. 02:16:20.087 --> 02:16:25.230 [UNKNOWN]: Because that's who, that's who sponsored the, uh, topless dancers' bottle was to Kila show that I went to. 02:16:25.270 --> 02:16:29.592 [UNKNOWN]: He worked for ACW, but he also worked just some random bar show in like, 02:16:31.993 --> 02:16:39.299 [UNKNOWN]: Um, he works like micro Indies in Eastern Europe, like these, these are the kind of shows he's working. 02:16:40.020 --> 02:16:43.183 [UNKNOWN]: If you wanted Marty squirrel banished from wrestling, you got it. 02:16:43.843 --> 02:16:46.546 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, what are you going to do? 02:16:46.566 --> 02:16:48.267 [UNKNOWN]: There's still going to be people who are going to book them. 02:16:48.908 --> 02:16:51.590 [UNKNOWN]: No one of any consequence is going to book them. 02:16:52.210 --> 02:16:53.732 [UNKNOWN]: He's not

going to make his way back in. 02:16:54.512 --> 02:16:55.593 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah. 02:16:55.633 --> 02:16:59.136 [UNKNOWN]: And also, I want to point out that if you go through a heat-up card, 02:17:00.494 --> 02:17:03.017 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it's not exactly. 02:17:03.057 --> 02:17:04.218 [UNKNOWN]: There's a couple of guys. 02:17:04.498 --> 02:17:07.241 [UNKNOWN]: It's the all-crewian wrestling of Japan currently. 02:17:07.382 --> 02:17:11.346 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there are a couple of people on the heat-up show that might be, uh, 02:17:13.600 --> 02:17:17.323 [UNKNOWN]: Marty finds some, some, some, solace, uh, we've come to eat that. 02:17:17.363 --> 02:17:19.165 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, come rotary with them, yeah. 02:17:19.205 --> 02:17:24.890 [UNKNOWN]: There's a couple of, uh, not salacious individuals on the, uh, on those heat up shows. 02:17:24.910 --> 02:17:28.133 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe we don't get upset about, uh, heat up, that was impromptu news. 02:17:28.153 --> 02:17:29.435 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was the fact, one week later. 02:17:29.455 --> 02:17:29.875 [UNKNOWN]: That's great. 02:17:29.895 --> 02:17:30.315 [UNKNOWN]: There you go. 02:17:30.656 --> 02:17:31.256 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 02:17:31.276 --> 02:17:32.678 [UNKNOWN]: So, um, 02:17:33.398 --> 02:17:39.764 [UNKNOWN]: I always like to put y'all on the spot, but how do you story it in the party scroll either as soon as you're Marty scroll You're like what is he doing to me? 02:17:39.904 --> 02:17:49.272 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I believe I believe the fifth isn't about hangman I don't want to talk about hangman and Marty again, so Maybe he can get hang or booked and heat up. 02:17:49.372 --> 02:17:50.813 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe he can't go up. 02:17:50.873 --> 02:17:55.777 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah Click that Get rid of your cancel 02:17:59.535 --> 02:18:12.547 [UNKNOWN]: Well, you don't want to watch Coach you can't a moto and hangman page on the latest flagship rich crates pitched hangman page working a heat-up show I guess coach you got a motor I would watch that match. 02:18:12.607 --> 02:18:13.969 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's match sounds fucking awesome. 02:18:13.989 --> 02:18:14.149 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:18:14.409 --> 02:18:14.929 [UNKNOWN]: I'll watch it. 02:18:14.949 --> 02:18:15.250 [UNKNOWN]: Why not? 02:18:15.650 --> 02:18:19.193 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't seen con kind of multiple work Yeah, I don't know if he's any good anymore, but 02:18:20.755 --> 02:18:22.916 [UNKNOWN]: I bet you know, I'm going to go on a limit. 02:18:22.936 --> 02:18:23.577 [UNKNOWN]: I bet he's grumpy. 02:18:23.797 --> 02:18:25.518 [UNKNOWN]: So, um, that's for sure. 02:18:26.278 --> 02:18:29.260 [UNKNOWN]: It's certainly going to be grumpy, but yeah, I haven't watched him fucking forever. 02:18:29.280 --> 02:18:32.121 [UNKNOWN]: You never pitched him for one of your tiger mask black tiger robots. 02:18:32.141 --> 02:18:32.461 [UNKNOWN]: It's not a call. 02:18:32.481 --> 02:18:33.382 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd never called go to him. 02:18:33.402 --> 02:18:46.949 [UNKNOWN]: You didn't pitch, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to him, go to 02:18:48.152 --> 02:18:48.713 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, all right. 02:18:49.733 --> 02:18:51.274 [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, I, yeah, whatever. 02:18:51.535 --> 02:18:51.795 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 02:18:52.375 --> 02:18:53.516 [UNKNOWN]: Um, okay. 02:18:53.536 --> 02:19:00.321 [UNKNOWN]: So let's let's let's let's do one G1 climax on the final daily G1 audio. 02:19:00.361 --> 02:19:02.003 [UNKNOWN]: I did to their night 17. 02:19:02.163 --> 02:19:04.705 [UNKNOWN]: I did about 15 minutes of the best audio in my life. 02:19:05.265 --> 02:19:09.866 [UNKNOWN]: breaking down the semi-final that they went with and the four people that advanced. 02:19:10.466 --> 02:19:13.787 [UNKNOWN]: So a decent chunk of our audience has already heard my thoughts. 02:19:13.847 --> 02:19:22.288 [UNKNOWN]: So why don't you go first and talk about what you think of the semi-final, the first of all, who advanced, out of each block? 02:19:23.068 --> 02:19:26.269 [UNKNOWN]: And you don't have to review anything because we've done all that behind the paywall already. 02:19:26.289 --> 02:19:30.450 [UNKNOWN]: If people are looking for G1 reviews, five dollar tier, nightly G1 audio, 02:19:31.530 --> 02:19:32.150 [UNKNOWN]: It's all covered. 02:19:32.190 --> 02:19:34.951 [UNKNOWN]: Rich did Chicago and then night 13 and 14. 02:19:34.991 --> 02:19:44.375 [UNKNOWN]: I did the rest The block finals shows are up there, but we'll do some, let's do some big picture as we head into the center of finals In finals. 02:19:44.735 --> 02:19:53.478 [UNKNOWN]: I gave a lot of my thoughts already and I'm gonna end up just repeating myself if I go first So I think people want to hear what you think about the this semi-finals that a new Japan is going 02:19:53.638 --> 02:20:06.289 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah and I sort of on the night I did the 1314 in a combo and I sort of talked about the potential scenarios that could play out here in these finals and who I would make go through on the semi finals and I'm pretty happy with with all four. 02:20:06.470 --> 02:20:08.431 [UNKNOWN]: Now I haven't loved Kelm Newman. 02:20:08.612 --> 02:20:10.553 [UNKNOWN]: I'll start with Kelm Newman because since he's the first guy I'm looking at here. 02:20:10.593 --> 02:20:12.915 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't been enamored with Kelm Newman's G1. 02:20:12.935 --> 02:20:17.620 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of crowd brawling for me, a lot of kind of chicken shit heels stuff for me. 02:20:17.660 --> 02:20:20.102 [UNKNOWN]: I get what he's doing and I understand but it hasn't 02:20:20.502 --> 02:20:27.929 [UNKNOWN]: It hasn't really landed with me all that much,

and obviously I'm a huge fan of counting him and people know that we've been putting him over pretty much the stay one since we first later eyes on him. 02:20:27.949 --> 02:20:30.251 [UNKNOWN]: We were like, this guy's going to be a dude, so just get ready for it. 02:20:30.872 --> 02:20:32.093 [UNKNOWN]: And I've liked a lot of his stuff. 02:20:32.133 --> 02:20:41.081 [UNKNOWN]: I have not enjoyed much of his G1, so I'll be curious to see if we get a real proper semi-final match here. 02:20:41.121 --> 02:20:45.245 [UNKNOWN]: If we get a little too much crowd-drawing, a little bit too much of trying to cheat, a little too much of. 02:20:45.565 --> 02:20:52.372 [UNKNOWN]: You know, underhanded tactics, I would like to avoid that in a G1 semi-final, unfortunately with this year's G1, I don't know that we're going to avoid that. 02:20:53.033 --> 02:20:55.535 [UNKNOWN]: Rho, Rho, you are, I have adored his G1. 02:20:55.816 --> 02:20:58.679 [UNKNOWN]: The flip side of that is I thought Rho, you as had an incredible G1. 02:20:59.377 --> 02:21:07.599 [UNKNOWN]: And he's a guy, him and ol like Bolton are two guys that their stock has risen tremendously for me with this G1. 02:21:07.660 --> 02:21:20.123 [UNKNOWN]: Roy, oh, you guys, a guy I've always thought it was like kind of, you know, a little bit behind the ape all in terms of some of these other guys in his generation, now that this G1's over, I'm like, no, he is absolutely a guy that can be in the mix and should be in the mix. 02:21:20.723 --> 02:21:22.064 [UNKNOWN]: And the thing that I love about him, 02:21:23.002 --> 02:21:24.042 [UNKNOWN]: something I love about progressing. 02:21:24.563 --> 02:21:25.603 [UNKNOWN]: You get a simple move over. 02:21:25.823 --> 02:21:31.506 [UNKNOWN]: You just get one simple move over and he's gotten the side headlock to be the most over-move in New Japan for Wrestling right now. 02:21:31.606 --> 02:21:38.109 [UNKNOWN]: And that is a testament to hard work, a testament to just establishing it and just going out from day one and just establishing that. 02:21:38.129 --> 02:21:39.629 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to make this one move work. 02:21:39.649 --> 02:21:47.913 [UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, I know that you talked about that in one of your G1 reviews, you know Paul Hayman's always mentioned that and a lot of, you know, old wrestlers have always mentioned that and Paul Hayman used, you know, Mark Henry doing a headlock. 02:21:48.353 --> 02:22:04.903 [UNKNOWN]: I can make Mark Henry's headlock, the most dangerous moving wrestling, because as long as you just have a guy put it on and you have people self-porting, you have people eventually to work, the dumbest move, the simplest move will match, and it's like so often in today's wrestling, it's like, well, how can I do five different flips, and then do a cutter, how can I do? 02:22:05.303 --> 02:22:11.606 [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, guys, sometimes just get the fucking simple shit over in wrestling, and that's going to

go away further than all these flippy-do things. 02:22:11.626 --> 02:22:12.407 [UNKNOWN]: We always talk about well, last 02:22:15.048 --> 02:22:16.709 [UNKNOWN]: The you got the hidden blade like that's the movement. 02:22:16.729 --> 02:22:18.730 [UNKNOWN]: That's a simple ass move of fucking elbow to someone's head. 02:22:18.750 --> 02:22:36.896 [UNKNOWN]: That's enough to end it and then you put him in this flippy do fucking stormbreaker bullshit that half the time looks Gart leg garbage like don't do that just keep the simple movements over and it'll work and I think Rojo you a getting that side headlock over has just been awesome to watch As as a story throughout this G1 and man he fucking locks that thing in and crowds are going nuts now. 02:22:36.936 --> 02:22:41.238 [UNKNOWN]: I mean that that again just awesome to see him do that and I've really been impressed by his G1. 02:22:41.258 --> 02:22:41.378 [UNKNOWN]: So 02:22:42.418 --> 02:22:45.781 [UNKNOWN]: From a personal standpoint, I would prefer OUO go through. 02:22:45.821 --> 02:22:49.244 [UNKNOWN]: I think OUO would get into the finals is gonna mean a little bit more for him. 02:22:49.844 --> 02:22:55.409 [UNKNOWN]: Versus Newman, who has won the title already, has already kind of been established as a champion. 02:22:55.509 --> 02:22:57.211 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that he necessarily needs it as much. 02:22:57.251 --> 02:22:58.692 [UNKNOWN]: Now they're gonna tell us some story. 02:22:58.812 --> 02:23:02.597 [UNKNOWN]: with Will Osprey, obviously with Cal Newman and at some point, that's going to come to a head. 02:23:02.637 --> 02:23:09.245 [UNKNOWN]: So I get why you would want Cal Newman in the finals, but I would really like to, you know, reward OUI think, not don't think OUI was going to win. 02:23:09.526 --> 02:23:12.590 [UNKNOWN]: Give you who I think is going to win here in a second or who I would book to win. 02:23:13.111 --> 02:23:16.452 [UNKNOWN]: But I think what he was, has earned that opportunity to be at least in the final. 02:23:16.472 --> 02:23:18.893 [UNKNOWN]: And that establishes him as a guy who's in the mix. 02:23:19.133 --> 02:23:21.174 [UNKNOWN]: Not quite there yet, but in the mix. 02:23:21.234 --> 02:23:23.814 [UNKNOWN]: You and Laura, he's a guy who I want to a little bit more. 02:23:23.834 --> 02:23:25.835 [UNKNOWN]: I talked about that in my 13 and 14 reviews. 02:23:26.155 --> 02:23:27.636 [UNKNOWN]: There's just something missing with the guy. 02:23:27.676 --> 02:23:28.916 [UNKNOWN]: Like, he's technically sound. 02:23:28.936 --> 02:23:30.297 [UNKNOWN]: He's got the look. 02:23:30.757 --> 02:23:33.138 [UNKNOWN]: It's all there, but it just doesn't, I don't know. 02:23:33.158 --> 02:23:34.438 [UNKNOWN]: It just doesn't all kind of come together. 02:23:34.458 --> 02:23:37.499 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't all click, and I just don't see it for him as a Tippy Tippy Top guy. 02:23:37.959 --> 02:24:03.429 [UNKNOWN]: So I would be fine with him losing and I want you

to sue you to go into that G1 final and I want you to sue you to win the G1 final because I expect his show to uminote to win this year's G1 and and go on and face Suji at rest a kingdom or or if they were to do some king of processing thing or whatever I kind of expected that to be you know what was gonna happen Obviously he got hurt that didn't happen you move away and you pivot and I think this year is the best year since you don't have it An obvious definitive 02:24:04.029 --> 02:24:07.932 [UNKNOWN]: this is the guy who's going to challenge for the title at Russell Kingdom. 02:24:07.952 --> 02:24:19.101 [UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, sometimes you'd watch a G1 and throughout the entire G1, you knew, okay, this guy's probably this is the guy that's going to win and he's going to go to Russell Kingdom and he's going to face O'Cotta, he's going to face Tanahashi, he's going to face Omega, whatever it might be, face Nito, or whatever. 02:24:19.661 --> 02:24:24.185 [UNKNOWN]: There's not one of those guys that's kind of a wide open field, and I think that's the best time to have Suji, 02:24:24.765 --> 02:24:43.149 [UNKNOWN]: win this whole fucking thing as the champion because you now have a couple more months to build up for rest of kingdom you have a couple more title defenses you can do in between then you don't have a guy right away that I think you're circling and saying this is the dude who's gonna be you know challenging for the title at rest of kingdom so if figure out who that's gonna be over the next couple months you figure out who gets the momentum you figure out who's 02:24:43.549 --> 02:24:45.551 [UNKNOWN]: who's looking good, who's the crowds connecting with. 02:24:45.611 --> 02:24:47.192 [UNKNOWN]: And it could be a number of different guys. 02:24:47.392 --> 02:24:50.234 [UNKNOWN]: We might, it might be one of these other three guys. 02:24:50.274 --> 02:24:52.416 [UNKNOWN]: It might be Chotumino when he's ready to go. 02:24:52.476 --> 02:24:56.979 [UNKNOWN]: Like, I just think this is the best year to establish Suji if you're trying to make him into like the guy. 02:24:57.960 --> 02:24:58.820 [UNKNOWN]: And clearly they are. 02:24:59.081 --> 02:24:59.801 [UNKNOWN]: He's the champion. 02:24:59.821 --> 02:25:02.363 [UNKNOWN]: He brought back the world, you know, titled he brought back the lineage. 02:25:02.623 --> 02:25:04.745 [UNKNOWN]: He talks about New Japan for wrestling over and over and over again. 02:25:05.465 --> 02:25:07.007 [UNKNOWN]: And I think he's had a very good G1 as well. 02:25:07.167 --> 02:25:08.548 [UNKNOWN]: I would like for Suji to be 02:25:09.188 --> 02:25:13.350 [UNKNOWN]: I think the first guy since Ken's case to sock you or whatever, back in, I don't even remember 2000's. 02:25:13.370 --> 02:25:14.371 [UNKNOWN]: It might have been in 2007. 02:25:14.771 --> 02:25:15.451 [UNKNOWN]: I forget it. 02:25:15.471 --> 02:25:16.072 [UNKNOWN]: 2004, 2007. 02:25:16.092 --> 02:25:20.314 [UNKNOWN]: I forget when it was that

he won the G1 of Champion, I would have you to suit you do it. 02:25:20.334 --> 02:25:21.935 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a good time to do it. 02:25:21.955 --> 02:25:28.618 [UNKNOWN]: You establish him now clearly a little bit above the rest of his class, and I don't think that's a problem because now the rest of these guys are hunting. 02:25:29.218 --> 02:25:31.359 [UNKNOWN]: to get there and get their shot and go to rest of Kingdom. 02:25:31.379 --> 02:25:34.741 [UNKNOWN]: So that's that's the way I would book it and it's a good some of my final. 02:25:34.761 --> 02:25:36.422 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's no render eats us, so that's good. 02:25:37.063 --> 02:25:37.803 [UNKNOWN]: It could have been worse. 02:25:37.823 --> 02:25:43.786 [UNKNOWN]: There was some dangerous, you know, I'm not in Love account moving being in there, but I still think he's going to have a pretty good performance. 02:25:43.887 --> 02:25:47.148 [UNKNOWN]: And yeah, I'm I'm ultimately happy with these these Final Four. 02:25:48.009 --> 02:25:54.993 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't been totally happy with the G1 in full, but these Final Four do give me some hope and they should be two great matches and I think 02:25:55.533 --> 02:25:58.034 [UNKNOWN]: whoever it is in the in the final should be a tremendous match as well. 02:25:58.054 --> 02:26:03.795 [UNKNOWN]: As long as we don't get too bogged down, I would count Newman, you know, crowd brawling and heel stuff, so. 02:26:06.396 --> 02:26:14.558 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that the big thing for me is this is what we've been asking, Do you plan to do for a number of years? 02:26:14.578 --> 02:26:16.779 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, there are three years to relate to it, but at least they're doing it. 02:26:17.599 --> 02:26:23.141 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you got three semifinalists from that same class of dojo. 02:26:24.133 --> 02:26:34.722 [UNKNOWN]: with Suji, OE1, Umura, and then Calum, Newman, obviously, the young Guy Jin who's already been an IWGP champion. 02:26:35.383 --> 02:26:42.630 [UNKNOWN]: So we're here, and we had a situation where Shingo and Haruki Goto and Zaxi Virginia, they were all limited before their final match. 02:26:42.730 --> 02:26:43.510 [UNKNOWN]: I love that too. 02:26:43.570 --> 02:26:45.172 [UNKNOWN]: They got all those guys out of the mix. 02:26:46.546 --> 02:26:51.010 [UNKNOWN]: yeah and it just they finally have kicked the door in with this they should have done it year sooner. 02:26:52.110 --> 02:26:59.016 [UNKNOWN]: Gato is a very slow and deliberate booker as we know but now you know we see if it's too late. 02:26:59.776 --> 02:27:02.298 [UNKNOWN]: They they have to create a meaningful star. 02:27:02.438 --> 02:27:05.761 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Yota Suji has been any kind of 02:27:07.140 --> 02:27:08.741 [UNKNOWN]: I think Yota Suji has hit a ceiling. 02:27:09.421 --> 02:27:12.242 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Yota Suji will ever be more popular than he already is. 02:27:12.782 --> 02:27:13.903 [UNKNOWN]: He's not a business mover.

02:27:14.443 --> 02:27:15.804 [UNKNOWN]: He's been a business sustainer. 02:27:16.344 --> 02:27:17.985 [UNKNOWN]: New Japan business isn't going down. 02:27:19.465 --> 02:27:21.926 [UNKNOWN]: Largely built around Yota Suji on top. 02:27:21.966 --> 02:27:23.127 [UNKNOWN]: I hesitate to call him an ace. 02:27:24.287 --> 02:27:27.329 [UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, there's something to be said for that. 02:27:27.869 --> 02:27:30.230 [UNKNOWN]: And that's something else I talked about on the audio today. 02:27:31.030 --> 02:27:34.112 [UNKNOWN]: That the easiest thing for a booker to do is to tank business. 02:27:34.312 --> 02:27:34.972 [UNKNOWN]: That's easy. 02:27:35.865 --> 02:27:39.087 [UNKNOWN]: The hardest thing for a booker to do is grow business. 02:27:39.307 --> 02:27:40.468 [UNKNOWN]: That's very hard. 02:27:41.089 --> 02:27:43.490 [UNKNOWN]: But it's also not easy to sustain business. 02:27:44.011 --> 02:27:51.156 [UNKNOWN]: When you don't have a legitimate ace, when you don't have a legitimate top of the card star, to keep things afloat. 02:27:52.096 --> 02:27:56.019 [UNKNOWN]: But Suji's already into his 30s. 02:27:57.160 --> 02:27:59.782 [UNKNOWN]: I see him having a ceiling that he's already hit. 02:28:00.582 --> 02:28:02.164 [UNKNOWN]: So the question is, can they create 02:28:03.578 --> 02:28:09.045 [UNKNOWN]: a real business moving star out of O-E-Y or U-O-Mora or when show to Umino comes back or whoever. 02:28:10.146 --> 02:28:10.707 [UNKNOWN]: Can that happen? 02:28:11.107 --> 02:28:17.475 [UNKNOWN]: This is a step towards that because now you have situation where, look, Suji's not winning this tournament. 02:28:18.245 --> 02:28:20.787 [UNKNOWN]: We know that. 02:28:22.147 --> 02:28:30.112 [UNKNOWN]: The question is, well, yeah, I guess if Omino was going to win, and you still want to get to Omino versus Suji, but on paper, he shouldn't win. 02:28:30.132 --> 02:28:33.174 [UNKNOWN]: So then the question becomes, who does he lose to and when? 02:28:33.214 --> 02:28:41.560 [UNKNOWN]: Does he lose to O. 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O 02:28:42.221 --> 02:28:51.206 [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, you're right, if, if, if their plan winner got heard on the first night in Chicago, and they want to retain what they, their plans for it, then I guess, so you can win. 02:28:51.226 --> 02:28:51.986 [UNKNOWN]: That's the easiest path. 02:28:52.046 --> 02:28:53.327 [UNKNOWN]: That's my answer. 02:28:53.347 --> 02:28:54.928 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's also a feather in his cap as well. 02:28:54.948 --> 02:28:57.589 [UNKNOWN]: If you're going to push this guy as, you know, one of your tippy top stars. 02:28:58.030 --> 02:28:58.710 [UNKNOWN]: It's a good time to do it. 02:28:58.930 --> 02:29:08.556 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right, it could be another thing to help his reputation and his prestige to have him win the G1 as the champion and then pick his own opponent, right, and all of that. 02:29:09.096 --> 02:29:14.019 [UNKNOWN]: But to me, I see it more of an opportunity to get OERU a more over a little bit more. 02:29:14.619 --> 02:29:18.121 [UNKNOWN]: And like you said, with the side headlock gimmick is a nice little step there. 02:29:18.882 --> 02:29:19.062 [UNKNOWN]: Look. 02:29:20.242 --> 02:29:24.249 [UNKNOWN]: You're going to have to keep trying with these guys. 02:29:24.329 --> 02:29:26.994 [UNKNOWN]: Look, I think Oleg Bolton, they did some nice steps with him. 02:29:27.094 --> 02:29:27.976 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he was great. 02:29:27.996 --> 02:29:29.298 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he had a fantastic show. 02:29:29.358 --> 02:29:32.884 [UNKNOWN]: His stock has risen 10 times for me in this tournament. 02:29:34.810 --> 02:29:43.417 [UNKNOWN]: And I think that they planted seeds with Utah ice with the underdog gimmick and fighting until he's literally can't fight anymore because he's knocked out, right? 02:29:43.798 --> 02:29:47.101 [UNKNOWN]: They at least did something narrative-wise with Utah ice. 02:29:47.841 --> 02:29:58.530 [UNKNOWN]: Even if in my opinion towards the end, he became kind of like the fucking, wily coyote in some extent, where it became cartoonish with him getting knocked out every match. 02:29:59.712 --> 02:30:05.445 [UNKNOWN]: But that's just, you know, with that gimmick and the way he carries himself right now, he's always gonna be a little cartoonish, right? 02:30:05.926 --> 02:30:07.630 [UNKNOWN]: But they planted some seeds with him at least. 02:30:08.331 --> 02:30:09.414 [UNKNOWN]: So I think that, 02:30:10.445 --> 02:30:31.372 [UNKNOWN]: uh... this was the first g one r i can definitively say that they took giant steps forward with the generation of talent that they needed to take giant steps forward with doesn't guarantee success doesn't guarantee that they're gonna get one of these guys over at a meaningful level but my god was a nice to see you got a fucking try and it's been it's nice that they're fucking try and finally 02:30:32.548 --> 02:30:36.709 [UNKNOWN]: and man was in a relief when Renne reads a loss to Gabe Gay. 02:30:37.049 --> 02:30:41.170 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was a relief because you don't, you didn't want him in the semi-final mix. 02:30:42.130 --> 02:30:43.490 [UNKNOWN]: That was my form. 02:30:43.610 --> 02:30:45.090 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was, that was my fear. 02:30:45.130 --> 02:30:51.831 [UNKNOWN]: Is that's a nice, easy, you know, story to tell, as he gets in that semi-final and somebody, you know, and of course he wasn't going to get to the final. 02:30:51.851 --> 02:31:00.393 [UNKNOWN]: Somebody was going to beat him, but just the very thought of him taking up one of these spots in the semi-final, just bothered me a lot and I'm glad that he got out of there. 02:31:01.055 --> 02:31:02.655 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 02:31:02.935 --> 02:31:06.836 [UNKNOWN]:

So yeah, it's an encouraging semi-final. 02:31:08.157 --> 02:31:12.978 [UNKNOWN]: And now we see, look, I hope Suji doesn't win. 02:31:14.398 --> 02:31:19.840 [UNKNOWN]: But you lay out a very compelling reason why he could. 02:31:20.200 --> 02:31:21.380 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it'd be a disaster. 02:31:22.380 --> 02:31:24.621 [UNKNOWN]: But we've kind of elevated him already. 02:31:25.521 --> 02:31:26.621 [UNKNOWN]: Let's elevate someone else. 02:31:31.049 --> 02:31:34.712 [UNKNOWN]: Well, then use that as an opportunity to do something with someone else. 02:31:35.652 --> 02:31:38.214 [UNKNOWN]: I say, all right, we had to rip up that script. 02:31:38.535 --> 02:31:43.879 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of times, in pro wrestling, good things happen when you have to change course, due to something out of your control. 02:31:45.360 --> 02:31:46.821 [UNKNOWN]: You could look at this company. 02:31:47.021 --> 02:31:48.122 [UNKNOWN]: And that's what you're talking about. 02:31:48.162 --> 02:31:49.703 [UNKNOWN]: Seriously, like that. 02:31:49.783 --> 02:31:56.768 [UNKNOWN]: So anyway, that'll be your semi-finals and final, tens on retirement, semi-finals on the 15th. 02:31:57.850 --> 02:32:01.914 [UNKNOWN]: And then the next night, the G1 finals, and I'm sure we'll cover all that next week. 02:32:02.074 --> 02:32:08.340 [UNKNOWN]: Yep, yep, we'll be on top of it next week for sure, but that is the G1 semi finals and finals. 02:32:08.400 --> 02:32:14.786 [UNKNOWN]: And again, daily G1 audio is over, that is done, and we're going to cover those shows next week on the flagship. 02:32:14.806 --> 02:32:15.827 [UNKNOWN]: So both those will be reviewed. 02:32:16.755 --> 02:32:24.119 [UNKNOWN]: And talked about extensively so there you go and the 10s on retirement match, of course, and then whatever else they book on those shows, probably should be some newsworthy shows. 02:32:24.339 --> 02:32:25.840 [UNKNOWN]: So probably a bunch of stuff happened on those. 02:32:25.860 --> 02:32:29.422 [UNKNOWN]: All right, let's get, let's get Noah. 02:32:29.762 --> 02:32:31.063 [UNKNOWN]: We're, we don't have much longer time. 02:32:31.083 --> 02:32:32.804 [UNKNOWN]: So let's talk about processing Noah here. 02:32:33.324 --> 02:32:39.468 [UNKNOWN]: The big news out of Noah legacy rise from the August 9 show is that Tetsuya, Nito is your brand new. 02:32:40.228 --> 02:32:46.513 [UNKNOWN]: GFC, heavyweight champion, defeating Shane Hayes to in the main event of that show to win the title. 02:32:46.533 --> 02:32:49.015 [UNKNOWN]: Joe, would you think of Naito versus Shane Hayes? 02:32:49.035 --> 02:32:50.596 [UNKNOWN]: And what do you think of Naito getting melted up? 02:32:51.216 --> 02:32:53.818 [UNKNOWN]: And you're right, they've had about 47 legacy rise shows. 02:32:53.858 --> 02:32:58.142 [UNKNOWN]: Right, you're all like all their shows are going to be in the next night for fuck's sake. 02:32:58.302 --> 02:32:59.202 [UNKNOWN]: Which I haven't watched yet. 02:32:59.823 --> 02:33:00.804 [UNKNOWN]: But I heard that the, 02:33:02.457 --> 02:33:13.604 [UNKNOWN]: I heard that the show, the next night in Corrican, with the Ata Kai Fujimura and the Junior Tactical Match, I heard that show was pretty good. 02:33:13.664 --> 02:33:15.806 [UNKNOWN]: Let me see if, okay, I'm not, not by the way. 02:33:16.346 --> 02:33:19.568 [UNKNOWN]: They have had 12 Legacy Rye shows this year. 02:33:19.728 --> 02:33:20.529 [UNKNOWN]: No, you're not kidding. 02:33:20.569 --> 02:33:22.510 [UNKNOWN]: No, they think they've used this a lot. 02:33:22.650 --> 02:33:23.771 [UNKNOWN]: They used this a lot. 02:33:23.791 --> 02:33:25.932 [UNKNOWN]: I thought I was like, am I just being weird about this? 02:33:25.992 --> 02:33:28.354 [UNKNOWN]: No, they have had 12 Legacy Rye shows this year. 02:33:29.383 --> 02:33:35.724 [UNKNOWN]: So anyway, we're not going to talk about night two, which had the junior stuff on it. 02:33:35.744 --> 02:33:37.944 [UNKNOWN]: And also, I'm unspoiled on that. 02:33:38.044 --> 02:33:40.005 [UNKNOWN]: So if the chat can chill out for me. 02:33:40.445 --> 02:33:41.905 [UNKNOWN]: Actually, I just won't, the chat can do it. 02:33:41.925 --> 02:33:43.005 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to tell what the chat would to do. 02:33:43.445 --> 02:33:44.286 [UNKNOWN]: Chat, do what you want. 02:33:44.326 --> 02:33:46.586 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to not, I'm going to close that tab. 02:33:46.986 --> 02:33:50.467 [UNKNOWN]: Because that was the final of the 200 tournament wrapped up there, right? 02:33:50.487 --> 02:33:52.007 [UNKNOWN]: It's the final of the 200 tournament. 02:33:52.227 --> 02:33:57.148 [UNKNOWN]: It's the junior tag title match, and it's the junior, and eta, and food you're more at my mind. 02:33:57.208 --> 02:33:57.508 [UNKNOWN]: I should. 02:33:58.548 --> 02:34:03.969 [UNKNOWN]: So I was planning on watching that and maybe doing a plus, but if you're going to watch it too, maybe I don't know, we'll figure that out. 02:34:04.009 --> 02:34:07.910 [UNKNOWN]: But the point is I haven't seen it yet, and I don't want to be spoiled, so I'm going to stay out of the tab. 02:34:09.711 --> 02:34:14.252 [UNKNOWN]: So if I say anything about the first show that contradicts what happens on the second show, that explains it. 02:34:14.272 --> 02:34:16.373 [UNKNOWN]: I haven't watched it yet, and it sounds like you haven't either. 02:34:17.813 --> 02:34:19.633 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so the first night drew 1589. 02:34:19.834 --> 02:34:25.275 [UNKNOWN]: I think that out drew the cork in G1, if I'm not mistaken, cork in G1 did. 02:34:26.671 --> 02:34:28.114 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, let me see, I have it right here. 02:34:28.774 --> 02:34:32.780 [UNKNOWN]: Um, I thought I had it here, I don't have it. 02:34:32.981 --> 02:34:35.244 [UNKNOWN]: I think it did a little bit less, but either way. 02:34:36.847 --> 02:34:40.913 [UNKNOWN]: Tetsu Yonato, you asked me to feed Shane Hayes for the GHC title. 02:34:42.059 --> 02:35:01.859 [UNKNOWN]: I thought that it was

the absolute best you're going to get out of current to tattoo your NATO and I thought that I am confident enough in what I saw to call it a good match but I think the good voters of Cage Match are out of their fucking minds with the rating that this match has in an 8.75, not a fucking chance. 02:35:01.979 --> 02:35:02.600 [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't that good. 02:35:03.260 --> 02:35:20.581 [UNKNOWN]: it was a good match is that what it's still at 8.75 now it's way higher than that if you use a go that's so I think some reasonable either that are Jordan Grace really hates Shane haste and maybe that it's really it's that's that's so inside that I'm not even gonna but anyway 02:35:23.103 --> 02:35:24.163 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a good match. 02:35:24.243 --> 02:35:28.905 [UNKNOWN]: I think you're not going to get anything better out of modern Tetsu Yenaito. 02:35:29.665 --> 02:35:31.966 [UNKNOWN]: I cannot believe they put this title on him. 02:35:32.526 --> 02:35:37.288 [UNKNOWN]: They lost the tag titles, and we were sitting here talking about, all right, well, it's time to scoot L.I.J. 02:35:37.348 --> 02:35:38.428 [UNKNOWN]: out of here, right? 02:35:38.728 --> 02:35:39.849 [UNKNOWN]: They're not helping business. 02:35:40.349 --> 02:35:42.029 [UNKNOWN]: Naito is completely fucking washed. 02:35:42.750 --> 02:35:47.451 [UNKNOWN]: They turn around, and they put their fucking world title on them two months later. 02:35:47.471 --> 02:35:50.212 [UNKNOWN]: And we talked about this scenario happening in that conversation that we had. 02:35:50.232 --> 02:35:52.253 [UNKNOWN]: We're like, oh, they're just as likely to put the world title on. 02:35:53.430 --> 02:35:54.171 [UNKNOWN]: I'll be there. 02:35:54.911 --> 02:35:57.273 [UNKNOWN]: Unfortunately, Option B occurred. 02:35:58.034 --> 02:35:59.215 [UNKNOWN]: The match, you know, the match is good. 02:35:59.655 --> 02:36:07.081 [UNKNOWN]: Shane Haste, I thought, didn't awesome job getting a passable, a good match even out of night. 02:36:07.101 --> 02:36:09.463 [UNKNOWN]: So I do not think this was a great match. 02:36:10.844 --> 02:36:13.025 [UNKNOWN]: But it wasn't, it was a good match. 02:36:13.366 --> 02:36:16.188 [UNKNOWN]: And NATO wins the belt. 02:36:16.248 --> 02:36:20.271 [UNKNOWN]: I think Shane Haste, the story of his reign is that he is a pretty 02:36:22.237 --> 02:36:29.901 [UNKNOWN]: And if you give a good wrestler something meaningful to do that he could sink his teeth into, um, sometimes you get their best efforts. 02:36:30.722 --> 02:36:33.383 [UNKNOWN]: And Shane Hayes had become very lazy. 02:36:34.064 --> 02:36:42.548 [UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes obviously two years ago when he was finishing up with New Japan was just goofing around, um, not taking it very seriously. 02:36:43.409 --> 02:36:48.492 [UNKNOWN]: It seemed like he was a guy who was just willing to collect checks for the rest of his career for anyone who would be willing to employ him. 02:36:49.348 --> 02:36:50.408 [UNKNOWN]: But they

brought him in. 02:36:50.829 --> 02:36:52.889 [UNKNOWN]: They obviously laid out a plan to put this title on him. 02:36:53.349 --> 02:36:55.230 [UNKNOWN]: And he worked his ass off in this title ring. 02:36:55.650 --> 02:37:00.152 [UNKNOWN]: So sometimes it's a matter of giving someone a reason to be motivated. 02:37:00.892 --> 02:37:09.455 [UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes knew he was never getting pushed to New Japan and his effort matched what he felt, his effort matched what he knew his ceiling was, right? 02:37:09.796 --> 02:37:16.198 [UNKNOWN]: So it's like this promotion, they were going to belt him up, given the responsibility of putting Tetsuya Knight to over. 02:37:17.604 --> 02:37:45.589 [UNKNOWN]: They even built in a new Japan storyline how he beat Tetsuya Naito and a G1 but never got a title shot right and it was still bitter about that Which was a nice storyline touch and They go out there and have a good match and I guess if you're Noah I guess there's no harm in trying this it is Tetsuya Naito for fucks sake I just don't think there's much juice left to squeeze But I will gladly come on here and eat my words if they run some bigger buildings with this guy and he fills them up 02:37:46.980 --> 02:37:50.368 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's impossible, but from what I've seen he hasn't met much. 02:37:51.090 --> 02:37:56.263 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not hopeful that that's gonna be the case, but I guess I could see why they're giving this a try. 02:37:57.746 --> 02:37:58.847 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm kind of the same. 02:37:59.667 --> 02:38:03.950 [UNKNOWN]: It's, it's Noah, so I don't have really many, like, I'm not angry about this at all. 02:38:03.970 --> 02:38:05.551 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's fucking Noah, man. 02:38:05.571 --> 02:38:13.956 [UNKNOWN]: We talked about this two months ago, like they just do the weirdest shit that you could, whatever the weirdest thing you can imagine, that's probably what they're gonna choose and this is of course is what they choose here. 02:38:14.436 --> 02:38:14.897 [UNKNOWN]: And I get it. 02:38:14.937 --> 02:38:21.441 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's not a whole lot of money guys up and down the roster because they're really terrible at getting the most out of their wrestlers on the roster. 02:38:21.901 --> 02:38:23.882 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not surprised they went this way with Naito. 02:38:25.383 --> 02:38:26.723 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll see if it means anything for business. 02:38:26.783 --> 02:38:27.323 [UNKNOWN]: I doubt it. 02:38:27.343 --> 02:38:34.985 [UNKNOWN]: I mean he hasn't meant anything yet Maybe people were people waiting for him to be the champion and then they're gonna all of a sudden start coming to watch him I mean the crowd was hot for him on this night. 02:38:35.105 --> 02:38:35.765 [UNKNOWN]: No doubt about it. 02:38:35.805 --> 02:38:40.446 [UNKNOWN]: The crowd was way into it this night Are they gonna sustain is that gonna be something people want to see for a while? 02:38:40.466 --> 02:38:43.047 [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna want to watch tattooing a night they'll title the fences all the time. 02:38:43.067 --> 02:38:47.388 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know and and you know The match itself 02:38:48.498 --> 02:38:51.861 [UNKNOWN]: I think nighto looked fine in it now. 02:38:51.901 --> 02:38:53.363 [UNKNOWN]: He's been disastrous lately. 02:38:53.383 --> 02:38:58.027 [UNKNOWN]: He's looked like, oh my god, this guy just needs to like never wrestle again at some points this year. 02:38:58.367 --> 02:38:59.108 [UNKNOWN]: This was not that. 02:38:59.188 --> 02:39:00.930 [UNKNOWN]: He was fine, but I do think 02:39:02.755 --> 02:39:06.616 [UNKNOWN]: that this was an all-time all-time great performance by Shane Hayes. 02:39:06.716 --> 02:39:09.977 [UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes was fucking tremendous in this match. 02:39:10.137 --> 02:39:17.279 [UNKNOWN]: And when you wrestle against Naito, and this was true of guys wrestle in Naito two and three years ago that you got to do a lot of that work. 02:39:17.319 --> 02:39:20.460 [UNKNOWN]: If you want to make the destino look good, you got to make it look good. 02:39:20.720 --> 02:39:41.676 [UNKNOWN]: Will Osprey learn that if you want to when he had to literally work with, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, 02:39:46.880 --> 02:39:50.161 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yeah, no, and he's he's not as bad these days. 02:39:50.201 --> 02:39:53.822 [UNKNOWN]: This is what he was literally unconscious in that day that match, but he's not far off. 02:39:53.882 --> 02:39:56.263 [UNKNOWN]: No, he's night dough is real rough real real rough. 02:39:56.303 --> 02:39:58.143 [UNKNOWN]: Now he got himself into a little bit better shape. 02:39:58.463 --> 02:39:59.504 [UNKNOWN]: He lost a little bit of weight. 02:39:59.804 --> 02:40:02.665 [UNKNOWN]: He looked okay here, but I think this is an all-time great shame. 02:40:02.685 --> 02:40:13.168 [UNKNOWN]: Hayes performance and I think this was a guy who, you know, like you said, the effort levels clearly risen for him recently, being in the spot and getting the strap and being, you know, in these main events or whatever. 02:40:13.188 --> 02:40:14.428 [UNKNOWN]: And I think this match, he definitely 02:40:14.828 --> 02:40:18.350 [UNKNOWN]: you could tell took to heart and it's like I'm in court and all made of any answers to your night dog. 02:40:18.670 --> 02:40:21.973 [UNKNOWN]: I got to bring a fucking 110% to this one and he absolutely did. 02:40:21.993 --> 02:40:23.934 [UNKNOWN]: I thought haste was phenomenal in this match. 02:40:23.954 --> 02:40:27.736 [UNKNOWN]: This is the best I've ever seen Shane Hayes work even even against

his prime. 02:40:27.756 --> 02:40:30.058 [UNKNOWN]: I think it was the best Shane Hayes match I've ever seen in my entire life. 02:40:30.698 --> 02:40:34.881 [UNKNOWN]: With that said is everybody else going to give that 110% effort against night dog. 02:40:35.041 --> 02:40:42.645 [UNKNOWN]: That's why I worry about that's what I'm struggling to figure out is this is a nice novelty to have night dog win this title and who else do you have? 02:40:42.726 --> 02:40:42.886 [UNKNOWN]: But 02:40:43.873 --> 02:40:57.344 [UNKNOWN]: how often is he going to wrestle often is he going to defend this title how well can he wrestle against you know is he going to wrestle merifuji and like that's not going to I don't think that's going to look very good at all and like so that's what I'm curious I I you know I'm more than willing to give it a shot but 02:40:58.595 --> 02:40:59.215 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not too hopeful. 02:40:59.275 --> 02:41:02.277 [UNKNOWN]: This is going to be a business mover, and I'm not too hopeful. 02:41:02.317 --> 02:41:05.938 [UNKNOWN]: This is going to be, you know, critically, very good either, because I just don't think night. 02:41:05.958 --> 02:41:07.339 [UNKNOWN]: So I've got it anymore. 02:41:07.779 --> 02:41:12.101 [UNKNOWN]: Even down a couple pounds and even, you know, trying a little harder, because he's the champion. 02:41:12.161 --> 02:41:14.422 [UNKNOWN]: I, I don't know, he just physically can't do it. 02:41:14.602 --> 02:41:16.083 [UNKNOWN]: So I'll be very curious. 02:41:16.903 --> 02:41:21.585 [UNKNOWN]: What, what he, you know, what is couple first defenses look like and, and, and, you know, how he looks in the ring. 02:41:22.386 --> 02:41:23.846 [UNKNOWN]: They put this title on Muto. 02:41:24.366 --> 02:41:24.526 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:41:24.887 --> 02:41:26.147 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 02:41:29.645 --> 02:41:30.505 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know who's worth. 02:41:30.745 --> 02:41:31.986 [UNKNOWN]: Muto had to be worse, right? 02:41:32.486 --> 02:41:34.327 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Muto was capable of a match just good. 02:41:35.087 --> 02:41:36.908 [UNKNOWN]: Um... Oh, Muto was worse. 02:41:36.988 --> 02:41:37.248 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:41:37.428 --> 02:41:38.108 [UNKNOWN]: Muto was worse. 02:41:38.128 --> 02:41:38.388 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:41:38.428 --> 02:41:39.869 [UNKNOWN]: He wasn't capable of a match just good. 02:41:40.049 --> 02:41:40.269 [UNKNOWN]: No. 02:41:40.389 --> 02:41:40.809 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no. 02:41:41.509 --> 02:41:49.012 [UNKNOWN]: This is like the guy who modeled himself after Muto completely following his footsteps in so many ways, it's, it's, it's crazy. 02:41:49.977 --> 02:41:52.399 [UNKNOWN]: Um, we don't probably call them and said, go to know where those guys are idiots. 02:41:52.519 --> 02:41:53.820 [UNKNOWN]: I'll fucking give you this time. 02:41:53.860 --> 02:41:55.902 [UNKNOWN]: Mark, they're still paying you, they'll pay you a lot. 02:41:55.922 --> 02:41:56.863 [UNKNOWN]: They'll give you the title. 02:41:56.883 --> 02:41:58.204 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're fucking idiots, man. 02:41:58.404 --> 02:41:59.064 [UNKNOWN]: They'll give you this time. 02:41:59.084 --> 02:41:59.805 [UNKNOWN]: They'll give you the title. 02:41:59.825 --> 02:42:00.746 [UNKNOWN]: They'll give you the title. 02:42:00.966 --> 02:42:03.087 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can work those guys like a fiddle. 02:42:03.628 --> 02:42:05.229 [UNKNOWN]: That no-sawa total pushover. 02:42:06.010 --> 02:42:08.792 [UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, I mean, you're probably not wrong. 02:42:08.812 --> 02:42:10.333 [UNKNOWN]: That's probably exactly what went down. 02:42:11.174 --> 02:42:13.055 [UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. 02:42:14.603 --> 02:42:16.584 [UNKNOWN]: his title matches are probably going to be terrible. 02:42:16.724 --> 02:42:21.227 [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't expect this kind of performance from him on a regular basis, obviously. 02:42:22.728 --> 02:42:23.809 [UNKNOWN]: I could see why they're trying it. 02:42:24.429 --> 02:42:29.593 [UNKNOWN]: I have to watch this stuff, so I wish they wouldn't try it, but this is what it is, you know. 02:42:29.653 --> 02:42:37.118 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's good for him for still getting booked and, you know, making decent money and 02:42:40.287 --> 02:42:43.609 [UNKNOWN]: And while his body can still do something, I guess. 02:42:44.049 --> 02:42:44.930 [UNKNOWN]: It does something. 02:42:46.731 --> 02:42:47.691 [UNKNOWN]: Those testimonies, man. 02:42:47.711 --> 02:42:52.154 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, and Shane Hayes is like, I got him, I got him, he hit him. 02:42:52.354 --> 02:42:54.335 [UNKNOWN]: I got you, I got you, I got you. 02:42:54.355 --> 02:42:55.856 [UNKNOWN]: I got you, I got you, look. 02:42:56.236 --> 02:43:07.643 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like, it's like when a dad is wrestling his kid in the yard and doing all the work, right, get up for the kid, take a big bump and make sure that it's, yeah, that's kind of like what this was. 02:43:11.084 --> 02:43:15.827 [UNKNOWN]: Bare Fuji vs. Kenton, national title now this, obviously. 02:43:15.847 --> 02:43:20.390 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, your grandfather's not your grandfather's Kenton. 02:43:20.651 --> 02:43:22.032 [UNKNOWN]: It's a mirror Fuji, I'll tell you that. 02:43:22.152 --> 02:43:31.238 [UNKNOWN]: No, but I tell you what, my take on this is that for what they are today, it was good for what they are now. 02:43:31.398 --> 02:43:35.841 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, as long as you understand that you're not getting as long as you understand what they are now. 02:43:37.182 --> 02:43:38.103 [UNKNOWN]: And I think, 02:43:39.232 --> 02:43:43.315 [UNKNOWN]: They both understand who they are now, and they didn't try to do too much. 02:43:44.135 --> 02:43:49.678 [UNKNOWN]: They didn't try to recreate fucking 2006, Buddha can haul, because they know they can't. 02:43:50.439 --> 02:43:54.782 [UNKNOWN]: And they wrestled like who they are today, and they had a good match for who they are today. 02:43:55.802 -->

02:43:59.865 [UNKNOWN]: And I have similar thoughts on Kenta that I hadn't shamed hasten that. 02:44:00.930 --> 02:44:08.335 [UNKNOWN]: Look, we all know there's situations with Kenta, where he doesn't give a shit, where he's lazy, where he's gonna go through the motions, where he's gonna goof off. 02:44:08.956 --> 02:44:12.898 [UNKNOWN]: The last two years or so in New Japan, they've got a team in with Chase Owens. 02:44:13.679 --> 02:44:22.065 [UNKNOWN]: He's goofing around, he's not working hard, he's power walking to the ring in his final wrestle kingdom in that Rambo, just being silly, because he's not taking it seriously. 02:44:22.565 --> 02:44:26.448 [UNKNOWN]: That annoys, it's how your New Japan run, annoys me, more and more, as time goes on. 02:44:27.505 --> 02:44:39.643 [UNKNOWN]: fang revives, you know, he, he just, he, uh, now he had his moments, I mean, that latter match or whatever with Tana Hashi, which was nasty, it was almost good for all the wrong ways, because they named each other. 02:44:40.524 --> 02:44:43.388 [UNKNOWN]: But, um, but anyway, he's another guy who, uh, he's 02:44:44.105 --> 02:45:03.493 [UNKNOWN]: Noah brings them in and we went and look we've all seen kenta American nindi matches that all have the cheap finish where you know He's like hitting somebody with a brief case or using the foreign object to enroll ups and hole in the tights He's just his effort levels are gonna match what he perceives because when when Noah brought him in That first night we're like holy shit. 02:45:03.574 --> 02:45:04.954 [UNKNOWN]: He's like channeling old kenta. 02:45:05.434 --> 02:45:06.315 [UNKNOWN]: He's not goofing around 02:45:07.147 --> 02:45:09.328 [UNKNOWN]: He looks dead serious about this. 02:45:09.508 --> 02:45:12.289 [UNKNOWN]: He's not the same physically, but he's the same mentally. 02:45:12.969 --> 02:45:14.569 [UNKNOWN]: I think he respects these letters. 02:45:14.949 --> 02:45:17.170 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's obviously not the same company. 02:45:18.311 --> 02:45:20.651 [UNKNOWN]: And it's the same company in name only. 02:45:21.431 --> 02:45:27.553 [UNKNOWN]: But this is a guy who picked up some fucking chairs in his life to continue the theme of this show for this company. 02:45:28.574 --> 02:45:31.615 [UNKNOWN]: And he's in there against a guy he respects in Marifuji. 02:45:32.215 --> 02:45:33.815 [UNKNOWN]: They're intrinsically linked forever, 02:45:36.522 --> 02:45:49.491 [UNKNOWN]: And he has taken everything he has done in Noah's seriously, and he has worked within his current modern capabilities, and he's not going to be able to go out there and have matched it a year. 02:45:49.531 --> 02:45:50.512 [UNKNOWN]: He can't do that anymore. 02:45:51.100 --> 02:45:59.926 [UNKNOWN]: But he could do this, and he could have those kind of matches he had against like Kano and his brief GHC title run, which were perfectly fine matches for who he is today. 02:46:00.546 --> 02:46:09.892 [UNKNOWN]: And that's what I thought this was because I think he takes working in Noah for those letters, even if it's not for Masawa, even if it's not for the same people he used to work for. 02:46:10.653 --> 02:46:16.476 [UNKNOWN]: I think he respects the letters because he very clearly is in a different mind 02:46:17.528 --> 02:46:21.480 [UNKNOWN]: mind space that he was in for 90% of his new Japan run. 02:46:22.230 --> 02:46:36.358 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, and I think that's pretty obvious that he, he, at least, I think in his mind, he understands that he has a legacy with this company, whether or not it's, you know, the same company like you said, but I think those letters and his name, I feel like he thinks that that, you know, he can't go there and dog it. 02:46:36.378 --> 02:46:39.520 [UNKNOWN]: He can't go there and play around and fuck around or whatever. 02:46:39.540 --> 02:46:44.762 [UNKNOWN]: He, I think that's too much respect for his upbringing and his legacy in that company to, to go around and fuck. 02:46:44.782 --> 02:46:46.884 [UNKNOWN]: Because, yeah, there's, there's never been, I don't, 02:46:49.505 --> 02:46:49.906 [UNKNOWN]: that's it. 02:46:49.946 --> 02:46:56.663 [UNKNOWN]: No, he's not he's taking this very seriously and look, he's not trying to be 2006 Kentha. 02:46:57.545 --> 02:46:58.528 [UNKNOWN]: He knows he can't be that. 02:47:00.021 --> 02:47:09.386 [UNKNOWN]: But, and Mara Fuji too, look, I thought they worked a very smart match, and it held my attention, and I thought the work for who they are today was very good, and it hid their weaknesses. 02:47:09.466 --> 02:47:10.047 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 02:47:10.987 --> 02:47:13.869 [UNKNOWN]: And they're pros, and they're able to do that if they want to do that. 02:47:14.569 --> 02:47:17.311 [UNKNOWN]: And Mara Fuji has been very disinterested at times too. 02:47:17.931 --> 02:47:24.795 [UNKNOWN]: It's almost like he's being forced at gunpoint a lot of the time to go work in Noah, because he doesn't want to, he's in pain, and it's been that way for a long time. 02:47:25.475 --> 02:47:48.355 [UNKNOWN]: But I think that they took this match seriously and that as good a match as they were going to be able to have in the spot they were in and and the current physical spot that they're in I mean so I enjoyed it from that perspective but with both of these guys and when they wrestling each other you're going to have to come in with those eyes you have to. 02:47:49.967 --> 02:48:02.573 [UNKNOWN]: So, Mara Fuji wins, he successfully defends the national title, and I guess we're going to talk about the N1 later and all of that stuff. 02:48:02.613 --> 02:48:05.474 [UNKNOWN]: So, any other thoughts on Mara Fuji and Kenta? 02:48:05.818 --> 02:48:08.041 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not really I think like you said it. 02:48:08.381 --> 02:48:12.245 [UNKNOWN]: I was I was pleasantly surprised about it because I thought I was going to be like, oh, man, it's so sad. 02:48:12.265 --> 02:48:15.749 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to

watch these guys, but then it was just like, oh, I'm watching these guys. 02:48:15.769 --> 02:48:20.555 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, wrestle and match that they would wrestle, you know, 20 years after their their great matches. 02:48:20.595 --> 02:48:20.875 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I. 02:48:21.856 --> 02:48:29.638 [UNKNOWN]: it would be ridiculous to expect them to do anything close to what they could do 20 years ago, uh, today after all that they've done in this business since then. 02:48:29.678 --> 02:48:32.199 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I was pleasantly surprised that they kept it pretty simple. 02:48:32.239 --> 02:48:34.840 [UNKNOWN]: They, they, you know, I will say the crowd. 02:48:34.920 --> 02:48:38.641 [UNKNOWN]: It didn't seem like the crowd really cared enough about it and that kind of annoyed me. 02:48:38.681 --> 02:48:40.782 [UNKNOWN]: I was like, man, this, this, this, but new crowd now. 02:48:40.942 --> 02:48:48.444 [UNKNOWN]: It's, and that's exactly what I was like, man, the generation has turned over so much that this is fucking kenta in mirifuji in this ring and it's like, 02:48:49.199 --> 02:48:54.401 [UNKNOWN]: They just kind of saw it as I said, these two guys didn't feel like a big moment and a big match. 02:48:55.221 --> 02:49:09.827 [UNKNOWN]: But why would it, you know, given that it's been all those many years and the crowds turned over and, you know, new fans probably have no concept of how great these guys were and how linked they were throughout history, but no, it was good enough match, good enough match for sure. 02:49:10.785 --> 02:49:27.996 [UNKNOWN]: When they wrestled on the Marifuji 20 or 25th anniversary show, whatever that was in like 2013, 14, whatever year that was, and it was Hadeo Atami working Marifuji, they tried to do their old match to some extent, and they did okay. 02:49:28.036 --> 02:49:29.117 [UNKNOWN]: The match was pretty good. 02:49:30.778 --> 02:49:32.199 [UNKNOWN]: They don't even bother trying that now. 02:49:32.519 --> 02:49:37.282 [UNKNOWN]: Nor should they, because it would have been, look, Langput this show, this is the best way I can put this show to people. 02:49:39.268 --> 02:49:45.923 [UNKNOWN]: And we'll talk about some of the other card stuff in a minute, but the top of this card could have been an absolute fucking disaster, and it wasn't. 02:49:47.446 --> 02:49:49.030 [UNKNOWN]: I thought both matches were pretty good. 02:49:50.222 --> 02:49:56.168 [UNKNOWN]: and there was a real chance that both of these matches could have been embarrassing levels of terrible. 02:49:56.808 --> 02:49:57.569 [UNKNOWN]: But that didn't happen. 02:49:57.989 --> 02:49:59.631 [UNKNOWN]: So they're pretty good. 02:50:00.011 --> 02:50:04.516 [UNKNOWN]: And for that, I thought as a whole, this card was pretty, is pretty fun watch. 02:50:04.536 --> 02:50:05.597 [UNKNOWN]: Did you watch the whole thing? 02:50:05.677 --> 02:50:05.997 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I did. 02:50:06.017 --> 02:50:09.500 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it was interesting with

the 200 match and I watched it. 02:50:09.560 --> 02:50:10.261 [UNKNOWN]: I've never been asked you. 02:50:10.561 --> 02:50:14.365 [UNKNOWN]: What do you think of the 200 concept now that you've seen it in action? 02:50:14.783 --> 02:50:19.106 [UNKNOWN]: I would like it a little bit more if it was five minute matches. 02:50:19.166 --> 02:50:26.892 [UNKNOWN]: I think the 200, you know, the three minutes and 20 seconds is way too limiting, way too limiting. 02:50:26.972 --> 02:50:36.199 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's really, really hard to have, it just, these matches feel like gimmick matches as opposed to, and you might say a five minute time limit, that's a gimmick match, too. 02:50:36.239 --> 02:50:36.660 [UNKNOWN]: But I think 02:50:37.583 --> 02:50:46.487 [UNKNOWN]: I can understand I can I can believe that these people can wrestle a five minute match and get in the ring and say, okay, look, I'm going to do whatever I can to win this match and less than five minutes. 02:50:46.908 --> 02:50:48.628 [UNKNOWN]: Because that's kind of what the whole idea supposed to be. 02:50:48.648 --> 02:50:55.672 [UNKNOWN]: We talked about this last week when we were previewing the show is that it doesn't bother me knowing that there might be, you know, 02:50:56.212 --> 02:50:58.315 [UNKNOWN]: playing a basketball game and it's game to five or whatever. 02:50:58.335 --> 02:51:02.480 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're gonna bust your ass and try to get those five points as quickly as possible It's if it's a game to 16. 02:51:02.580 --> 02:51:04.603 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got a little time to fuck around a little bit. 02:51:04.623 --> 02:51:05.804 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah until we're up to 10. 02:51:05.864 --> 02:51:09.829 [UNKNOWN]: It's like whatever But I can I I had trouble 02:51:11.060 --> 02:51:23.347 [UNKNOWN]: thinking of this is anything but a gimmick because it was just like so short and the fucking clock was up there right away and it's making buzzing sounds and it's turning over and it just felt little too fast, little too fast. 02:51:23.367 --> 02:51:26.428 [UNKNOWN]: Now it's a little too late to change it because they've already made the branding it's already ready to go. 02:51:26.908 --> 02:51:29.550 [UNKNOWN]: I just think this thing would have been a little bit better as like, I don't know. 02:51:30.243 --> 02:51:36.270 [UNKNOWN]: the GHC 500 tile or whatever, you know, just the three minutes is a little, little too short in my mind. 02:51:36.290 --> 02:51:45.640 [UNKNOWN]: But I, I appreciated the attempt and I think it was a fun little thing to do, but you're going to really, like, you're only going to be able to tell like a couple different stories in three minutes and they ran through. 02:51:46.612 --> 02:51:47.993 [UNKNOWN]: basically all of them on this first night. 02:51:48.013 --> 02:51:49.173 [UNKNOWN]: You had two time limit draws. 02:51:49.193 --> 02:51:53.935 [UNKNOWN]: You had a guy trick a guy into getting a count out and then you had a guy blitz a guy and get the win. 02:51:53.975 --> 02:51:55.916 [UNKNOWN]: Like that's kind of all you're gonna get. 02:51:55.936 --> 02:52:00.097 [UNKNOWN]: And I think with a five minute time limit, you maybe have a little bit more wiggle room to tell a real story in a match. 02:52:00.557 --> 02:52:01.798 [UNKNOWN]: Three minutes, you really do not. 02:52:01.958 --> 02:52:02.558 [UNKNOWN]: You have nothing. 02:52:02.718 --> 02:52:03.299 [UNKNOWN]: It's so quick. 02:52:04.659 --> 02:52:13.322 [UNKNOWN]: To your point of, it's not, it's hard to suspend disbelief that you can beat someone in two minutes and what is it three minutes in 20 seconds? 02:52:13.342 --> 02:52:14.303 [UNKNOWN]: It's three minutes in 20 seconds. 02:52:14.323 --> 02:52:14.463 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:52:15.850 --> 02:52:17.331 [UNKNOWN]: They only had one guy win. 02:52:18.232 --> 02:52:23.196 [UNKNOWN]: They did two time limit draws and they did a guy sneezed his way to what count out. 02:52:24.376 --> 02:52:27.118 [UNKNOWN]: So they kind of agreed with you, right? 02:52:27.219 --> 02:52:30.041 [UNKNOWN]: Cause they didn't have guys beat each other. 02:52:30.788 --> 02:52:37.449 [UNKNOWN]: You know, so, uh, look, I, I got a took an actual, I think it was a junior, uh, have you a beat in a junior, right? 02:52:37.489 --> 02:52:38.730 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know about it. 02:52:38.750 --> 02:52:39.210 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 02:52:39.930 --> 02:52:51.433 [UNKNOWN]: And, and that, the others, they did the gimmick count out were Hayata beat, Massica, to me, of I count out, and then there's a tricking him on going outside in it, because they have a five counts, and then kicked him and then ran into the ring. 02:52:51.453 --> 02:52:52.813 [UNKNOWN]: And that's how he once said it. 02:52:52.833 --> 02:52:55.053 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was like, yeah, banana peel count out when. 02:52:56.094 --> 02:52:57.694 [UNKNOWN]: And then the other two were the time limit draws. 02:52:58.954 --> 02:53:05.298 [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, the one where like Kano is like working for the sub-at the end, that's what he's trying to get us a vision on. 02:53:05.438 --> 02:53:09.601 [UNKNOWN]: And I have to say, I enjoyed the concept. 02:53:09.861 --> 02:53:10.682 [UNKNOWN]: I like it a lot. 02:53:12.002 --> 02:53:13.123 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's something different. 02:53:14.024 --> 02:53:22.049 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's something fun to break up some of these shows with something that just gets in and gets out. 02:53:22.229 --> 02:53:26.472 [UNKNOWN]: I think the fans, I was really trying to get, you know, pay attention to the fans. 02:53:27.568 --> 02:53:29.369 [UNKNOWN]: I think it put the fans on edge. 02:53:29.609 --> 02:53:33.192 [UNKNOWN]: They were locked into these matches because they knew they could end it at any time. 02:53:34.292 --> 02:53:36.394 [UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't know if I'm gonna be into this long term. 02:53:36.514 --> 02:53:39.696 [UNKNOWN]: I think you made a good point about there's only so many different stories you

could tell. 02:53:40.216 --> 02:53:42.318 [UNKNOWN]: How many times can someone get a cheap count out when? 02:53:43.158 --> 02:53:46.280 [UNKNOWN]: How many times can you go to a draw before people just wanna see people with? 02:53:46.320 --> 02:53:46.741 [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean? 02:53:46.761 --> 02:53:52.564 [UNKNOWN]: There's only so much you could do with the concepts from a finished standpoint for now I'm enjoying it. 02:53:52.745 --> 02:53:56.347 [UNKNOWN]: And I think it added a lot of cool variety to the show. 02:53:57.498 --> 02:53:58.238 [UNKNOWN]: Let me put you this way. 02:53:59.619 --> 02:54:10.622 [UNKNOWN]: I like to this show a lot more because these four matches were on it rather than if these four matches were replaced with two six man tags with guys that just aren't doing anything important. 02:54:10.762 --> 02:54:11.182 [UNKNOWN]: Right, right. 02:54:11.202 --> 02:54:11.923 [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean? 02:54:11.963 --> 02:54:13.343 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, singles matches. 02:54:13.363 --> 02:54:23.186 [UNKNOWN]: I'll always prefer a good singles match with, yeah, because there's a scenario where Kiyomiya and Alpha Wolf and Kendo and all these guys are just in meanly six man. 02:54:26.347 --> 02:54:34.530 [UNKNOWN]: we get white raven squad versus the fucking team 2,000 players for the thousand time and yeah, like this is greatly preferable to that. 02:54:35.390 --> 02:54:36.750 [UNKNOWN]: So I really enjoyed it. 02:54:36.991 --> 02:54:42.052 [UNKNOWN]: So what the fuck are they doing with the time limit draws though in terms of how this tournament's going to work? 02:54:42.152 --> 02:54:53.456 [UNKNOWN]: Like I don't, I'm afraid to look forward because I don't want to get spoiled and you know, from that standpoint, that I wonder about because these were quarter final matches because it's an eight man tournament. 02:54:54.593 --> 02:54:55.553 [UNKNOWN]: But only two people won. 02:54:55.793 --> 02:54:59.734 [UNKNOWN]: So did Hayata and Tetsuya Endo have just like, did they go right to a final? 02:54:59.974 --> 02:55:00.674 [UNKNOWN]: Is that what they're doing? 02:55:00.694 --> 02:55:07.776 [UNKNOWN]: I'm a, let me see if it, let me see if it, let me see if it, I think you're gonna get spoiled, but I think that they are. 02:55:07.996 --> 02:55:09.316 [UNKNOWN]: I think that they are so soon. 02:55:09.496 --> 02:55:11.017 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because when it's time, let me draw your route. 02:55:12.137 --> 02:55:12.757 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 02:55:12.997 --> 02:55:13.757 [UNKNOWN]: You're just completely out. 02:55:13.818 --> 02:55:18.219 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm looking at the card from the next night and it's just, yeah, it's Hayato and Endo in the final. 02:55:19.439 --> 02:55:19.899 [UNKNOWN]: I like that. 02:55:21.127 --> 02:55:21.567 [UNKNOWN]: I like it. 02:55:21.728 --> 02:55:22.909 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, of course, you know it's mad. 02:55:22.989 --> 02:55:23.950 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, can I was mad? 02:55:23.970 --> 02:55:25.131 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know it's real mad. 02:55:25.231 --> 02:55:28.433 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's like, they're like, I'm drawing you're out and can I was like, no, no, no, no, no more time. 02:55:28.453 --> 02:55:29.454 [UNKNOWN]: And they're like, no, that's it, brother. 02:55:29.494 --> 02:55:30.796 [UNKNOWN]: No, that's it, you don't get more time. 02:55:31.056 --> 02:55:33.718 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I wouldn't have been mad if they had in more time because that's the whole point. 02:55:33.818 --> 02:55:35.079 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it could I was like two more minutes. 02:55:35.099 --> 02:55:35.760 [UNKNOWN]: What am I in there like now? 02:55:35.780 --> 02:55:37.662 [UNKNOWN]: Get the fuck out of the ring brother and he's like, that's bullshit. 02:55:37.942 --> 02:55:38.622 [UNKNOWN]: This is, I don't know. 02:55:38.642 --> 02:55:39.263 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't all, yeah. 02:55:40.024 --> 02:55:42.085 [UNKNOWN]: It can I was the perfect guy in a fucking that way, too. 02:55:42.146 --> 02:55:42.846 [UNKNOWN]: He's always annoyed. 02:55:43.767 --> 02:55:47.951 [UNKNOWN]: So that was kind of, yeah, no, I'm endorsing this concept for now. 02:55:48.830 --> 02:55:49.270 [UNKNOWN]: Is that fair? 02:55:49.550 --> 02:55:49.890 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:55:49.990 --> 02:55:50.211 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah. 02:55:50.271 --> 02:55:54.212 [UNKNOWN]: I think like in six months we're going to be like, oh god, another countout. 02:55:54.232 --> 02:55:55.273 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:55:55.593 --> 02:55:56.713 [UNKNOWN]: Another time limit draw. 02:55:57.093 --> 02:55:59.454 [UNKNOWN]: But right now it is a nice change of pace. 02:55:59.935 --> 02:56:00.775 [UNKNOWN]: It's a nice change of pace. 02:56:02.589 --> 02:56:07.153 [UNKNOWN]: All right, so anything else on this show you want to discuss or do you want to just jump right into the M1. 02:56:07.273 --> 02:56:08.293 [UNKNOWN]: Again, top to bottom. 02:56:08.854 --> 02:56:12.176 [UNKNOWN]: I thought this show was easy to watch the tags. 02:56:12.276 --> 02:56:14.138 [UNKNOWN]: None of the tags overstayed their welcome. 02:56:14.698 --> 02:56:20.142 [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, the 200 stuff didn't either, and I thought the top of the card over delivered big time. 02:56:21.043 --> 02:56:22.985 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I liked most of everything that I saw in the show. 02:56:23.005 --> 02:56:25.547 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the opener was obviously you're just every. 02:56:26.567 --> 02:56:27.708 [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't want team. 02:56:27.728 --> 02:56:28.688 [UNKNOWN]: No, I want they did. 02:56:28.948 --> 02:56:30.249 [UNKNOWN]: They're on a nice little win streak here. 02:56:30.409 --> 02:56:31.569 [UNKNOWN]: They're on a nice little win streak here. 02:56:31.589 --> 02:56:53.679 [UNKNOWN]: I thought the The kid like O's and and and Booshy way to say that was that for a tag that sucks because it was like a lot of gimmick and a lot of like it was like five minutes Yeah, it was like goofy shit like we had a hadlock sequence where everybody in the match isn't a

hadlock or whatever So that was whatever Crazy living off the fumes of ECW Super with his super effin crazy shirt 02:56:54.931 --> 02:56:57.813 [UNKNOWN]: No, it's the crowd of all of you. 02:56:57.833 --> 02:57:02.918 [UNKNOWN]: They had the young boys in there too, though, which was interesting to, you know, see the work of weird match like this. 02:57:02.938 --> 02:57:04.399 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I thought the show was good. 02:57:04.479 --> 02:57:07.181 [UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a nice easy watch for me. 02:57:07.521 --> 02:57:09.203 [UNKNOWN]: And was it, you know, what happened? 02:57:09.223 --> 02:57:11.364 [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't bogged down by team 2000, actually. 02:57:11.484 --> 02:57:21.392 [UNKNOWN]: I think I've realized that like how refreshing it was to not hear that music and be like, oh, no, you know, it's just, God, if you watch enough wrestling across this world right now, 02:57:22.113 --> 02:57:28.135 [UNKNOWN]: And I know people have been, you know, because you've been talking about it with the G1 reviews and, you know, there's people give to trust me. 02:57:28.155 --> 02:57:35.878 [UNKNOWN]: If you watch all this shit as much as we do, there's nothing that infuriates you more than, like, here comes a bunch of heels to mock a match up. 02:57:35.898 --> 02:57:38.719 [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's, and they're all doing the same shit. 02:57:38.819 --> 02:57:40.300 [UNKNOWN]: They're all just doing the same fucking gimmick. 02:57:40.360 --> 02:57:43.201 [UNKNOWN]: Team 2,000X is not doing anything that much different than the House of Fucking Torture. 02:57:43.221 --> 02:57:45.022 [UNKNOWN]: And it's just like, I don't want to see this anymore. 02:57:45.062 --> 02:57:45.462 [UNKNOWN]: I'm done. 02:57:46.283 --> 02:57:47.464 [UNKNOWN]: But you didn't have that on the show. 02:57:47.604 --> 02:57:48.644 [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't bogged down by it at all. 02:57:48.664 --> 02:57:49.505 [UNKNOWN]: So that helps that help. 02:57:49.525 --> 02:57:50.005 [UNKNOWN]: That's true. 02:57:50.205 --> 02:57:51.506 [UNKNOWN]: There wasn't you're right about that. 02:57:51.907 --> 02:58:00.312 [UNKNOWN]: I guess just quickly, I like the angle they did with Ata, because it is a preview match for the match that we're going to have the next night. 02:58:00.672 --> 02:58:02.693 [UNKNOWN]: Ata, he tagged with Daiki Otashima. 02:58:02.713 --> 02:58:03.274 [UNKNOWN]: That's my boy. 02:58:03.994 --> 02:58:17.137 [UNKNOWN]: vs. Fujimura and Masayoka, and they did a real quick double count out, and then they restarted the match, and then I ate to just when Apeshit would a chair just started beating the fuck out of the team 2000, next guys with the chair. 02:58:17.558 --> 02:58:19.738 [UNKNOWN]: So the point where even Otashima was like, calm down. 02:58:19.798 --> 02:58:20.638 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's all right. 02:58:21.719 --> 02:58:23.859 [UNKNOWN]: This is at a hand, like you got to relax. 02:58:23.899 --> 02:58:29.641 [UNKNOWN]: So that was, I thought that was a really hot angle to set up the title match that happened the next night. 02:58:29.761 --> 02:58:29.961 [UNKNOWN]: So, 02:58:30.801 --> 02:58:35.244 [UNKNOWN]: All right, do you want to talk about this, uh, let's do one one and one brackets. 02:58:35.264 --> 02:58:36.385 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's finish out. 02:58:36.405 --> 02:58:36.866 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry. 02:58:37.006 --> 02:58:37.706 [UNKNOWN]: All in London. 02:58:37.726 --> 02:58:38.967 [UNKNOWN]: We'll have the only time to talk to you. 02:58:39.147 --> 02:58:40.929 [UNKNOWN]: Talk about you in the future. 02:58:40.989 --> 02:58:42.470 [UNKNOWN]: So I got the the blocks. 02:58:42.510 --> 02:58:45.932 [UNKNOWN]: And I have them with their nicknames as well as they were listed. 02:58:46.033 --> 02:58:47.013 [UNKNOWN]: I know is website. 02:58:47.434 --> 02:58:49.295 [UNKNOWN]: And there are some incredible ones here. 02:58:49.335 --> 02:58:50.996 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know any of this yet. 02:58:51.337 --> 02:58:51.917 [UNKNOWN]: So this is new. 02:58:51.937 --> 02:58:52.137 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:58:52.217 --> 02:58:52.497 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 02:58:52.577 --> 02:58:55.420 [UNKNOWN]: So September 12th is when the n1 victory begins. 02:58:56.420 --> 02:58:57.160 [UNKNOWN]: You're a block. 02:58:57.180 --> 02:58:58.781 [UNKNOWN]: You're a blocker in the end. 02:58:58.801 --> 02:59:00.041 [UNKNOWN]: You're a blocker in the end. 02:59:00.121 --> 02:59:00.762 [UNKNOWN]: One victory. 02:59:01.622 --> 02:59:02.862 [UNKNOWN]: The Prince of Madness. 02:59:03.203 --> 02:59:04.223 [UNKNOWN]: Kaito Kiyomiya. 02:59:05.523 --> 02:59:06.344 [UNKNOWN]: Prince of Madness. 02:59:06.364 --> 02:59:07.164 [UNKNOWN]: The Prince of Madness. 02:59:07.344 --> 02:59:07.884 [UNKNOWN]: You know this one. 02:59:07.904 --> 02:59:08.865 [UNKNOWN]: Mr. Smackdaddy. 02:59:08.985 --> 02:59:09.825 [UNKNOWN]: Yoshiki and Amura. 02:59:09.845 --> 02:59:11.405 [UNKNOWN]: You know about that one. 02:59:11.486 --> 02:59:12.106 [UNKNOWN]: One that I love. 02:59:12.206 --> 02:59:13.486 [UNKNOWN]: Hearts on fire. 02:59:13.626 --> 02:59:14.327 [UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes. 02:59:15.147 --> 02:59:16.907 [UNKNOWN]: Hearts on fire. 02:59:17.228 --> 02:59:17.968 [UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes. 02:59:18.588 --> 02:59:18.848 [UNKNOWN]: What? 02:59:20.169 --> 02:59:22.549 [UNKNOWN]: I thought you said hearts of fire. 02:59:22.589 --> 02:59:23.690 [UNKNOWN]: No, hearts on fire. 02:59:26.290 --> 02:59:31.276 [UNKNOWN]: Hart's on fire like the rocky four like training montage yes Hart's on fire. 02:59:31.316 --> 02:59:36.383 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah Okay, you think the shane is like, I don't know if I can hurt some fire or something like that. 02:59:36.403 --> 02:59:37.064 [UNKNOWN]: We'll put in there. 02:59:37.104 --> 02:59:37.764 [UNKNOWN]: What do you thank you? 02:59:39.399 --> 02:59:41.421 [UNKNOWN]: What's your nickname is like, I have to have a nickname. 02:59:41.441 --> 02:59:43.423 [UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, he's like, I don't know if I can hear it's on fire or something.

02:59:43.443 --> 02:59:46.445 [UNKNOWN]: They're like, I call it probably just watch Rocky Horror Rock, right? 02:59:46.465 --> 02:59:51.130 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, uh, in Siberia with the logs on his back, like four inches through the snow. 02:59:52.151 --> 02:59:54.633 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's on fire. 02:59:54.673 --> 02:59:56.274 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's why he texted wife. 02:59:56.334 --> 02:59:59.437 [UNKNOWN]: She was sleeping because it was Japanese time and he's like, how long when you need it? 02:59:59.457 --> 03:00:00.578 [UNKNOWN]: They're like, uh, next hour. 03:00:00.638 --> 03:00:01.959 [UNKNOWN]: He's like, uh, it's on fire. 03:00:01.979 --> 03:00:02.580 [UNKNOWN]: I'm about that. 03:00:02.990 --> 03:00:06.531 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like Dennis Conjury saying, I don't know, how about midnight express? 03:00:06.691 --> 03:00:07.912 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what do you want to theme to be? 03:00:07.952 --> 03:00:10.292 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm just talking to the theme for midnight express, I don't know. 03:00:10.432 --> 03:00:14.894 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the most I kept one of those iconic wrestling teams in history, yeah. 03:00:15.474 --> 03:00:17.615 [UNKNOWN]: Asked Dennis Conjury, oh, I don't know, what do you want in team name to be? 03:00:17.635 --> 03:00:19.435 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't know what you're saying, I don't know what you're saying. 03:00:19.455 --> 03:00:21.836 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you're saying, I don't know what you're saying. 03:00:21.876 --> 03:00:23.477 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you're saying, I don't know what you're saying. 03:00:23.497 --> 03:00:25.197 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you're saying, I don't know what you're saying. 03:00:25.217 --> 03:00:26.998 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you're saying. 03:00:28.402 --> 03:00:30.763 [UNKNOWN]: The rest of it's just shrugging his shoulder down. 03:00:30.783 --> 03:00:31.083 [UNKNOWN]: Whatever. 03:00:31.703 --> 03:00:32.644 [UNKNOWN]: I don't go make it. 03:00:32.724 --> 03:00:33.884 [UNKNOWN]: It's going make it. 03:00:34.744 --> 03:00:36.505 [UNKNOWN]: If it works for Dan, it's it works for me. 03:00:37.905 --> 03:00:40.726 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, right. 03:00:40.846 --> 03:00:44.528 [UNKNOWN]: Passion general, you can, you know, passion general. 03:00:45.008 --> 03:00:46.428 [UNKNOWN]: Passion general. 03:00:47.549 --> 03:00:49.869 [UNKNOWN]: It sounds like a character from like a romance novel. 03:00:50.130 --> 03:00:51.090 [UNKNOWN]: Passion general. 03:00:51.130 --> 03:00:52.290 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it grows restore. 03:00:52.990 --> 03:00:54.571 [UNKNOWN]: She's got a crush on the passion general. 03:00:55.411 --> 03:00:55.811 [UNKNOWN]: The beast. 03:00:58.681 --> 03:01:05.064 [UNKNOWN]: Nice and classic you don't have to you don't even ask him you just know it's the beast Yeah, you don't even get eight cast Fujita matches all right. 03:01:05.104 --> 03:01:06.384 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:01:06.424 --> 03:01:07.125 [UNKNOWN]: Wow Hey 2026. 03:01:07.205 --> 03:01:08.505 [UNKNOWN]: I'm I'll take eight cast. 03:01:08.525 --> 03:01:10.246 [UNKNOWN]: Well, the sheema's not in the block. 03:01:10.286 --> 03:01:10.946 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not interested. 03:01:11.086 --> 03:01:11.286 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:01:11.346 --> 03:01:11.806 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's true. 03:01:11.887 --> 03:01:16.849 [UNKNOWN]: He did not make it in Because I awful will for the multi-man ladder match. 03:01:16.869 --> 03:01:17.829 [UNKNOWN]: That's right. 03:01:17.969 --> 03:01:24.452 [UNKNOWN]: South East Asian standout Chen Who South East Asian standout Chen? 03:01:24.472 --> 03:01:26.313 [UNKNOWN]: I feel like that's Snoop Dogg. 03:01:26.393 --> 03:01:26.953 [UNKNOWN]: I give who 03:01:28.461 --> 03:01:31.182 [UNKNOWN]: I'll be former Dante Chen you remember Dante Chen. 03:01:31.202 --> 03:01:32.923 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, all right. 03:01:33.003 --> 03:01:39.606 [UNKNOWN]: Dante Chen of a sure of NXT fame Level up. 03:01:39.646 --> 03:01:39.946 [UNKNOWN]: Hold on. 03:01:39.986 --> 03:01:42.587 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, did you call him southeast? 03:01:42.627 --> 03:01:43.528 [UNKNOWN]: No stand out. 03:01:43.548 --> 03:01:48.070 [UNKNOWN]: That is his name calling him that that is his nickname quote South East Asian standout Chen 03:01:48.570 --> 03:01:50.231 [UNKNOWN]: Well, now we're going to have to call him that forever. 03:01:50.451 --> 03:01:51.391 [UNKNOWN]: The Southeast Asian thing. 03:01:51.411 --> 03:01:52.171 [UNKNOWN]: Standout Chen. 03:01:52.191 --> 03:01:52.351 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:01:52.471 --> 03:01:57.393 [UNKNOWN]: Whenever Dante Chen comes up on the show, which I'm guessing might not be too frequently in the future. 03:01:57.413 --> 03:02:04.455 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think we have to worry about that much, but if we go back on, you know, we're watching our NXT level up rewatch in 10 years. 03:02:04.875 --> 03:02:07.576 [UNKNOWN]: He has to be referred to as Southeast Asian standout Chen. 03:02:07.676 --> 03:02:07.816 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 03:02:07.956 --> 03:02:08.916 [UNKNOWN]: It's just Chen. 03:02:09.256 --> 03:02:09.756 [UNKNOWN]: Just Chen. 03:02:09.816 --> 03:02:10.036 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:02:10.096 --> 03:02:11.737 [UNKNOWN]: Southeast Asian standout Chen. 03:02:12.077 --> 03:02:13.157 [UNKNOWN]: So his name is just Chen. 03:02:13.317 --> 03:02:14.118 [UNKNOWN]: Not Dante Chen. 03:02:14.138 --> 03:02:14.578 [UNKNOWN]: Just Chen. 03:02:17.243 --> 03:02:19.325 [UNKNOWN]: It's like the generic boss in a bad intention. 03:02:19.405 --> 03:02:20.546 [UNKNOWN]: That's something, man. 03:02:20.826 --> 03:02:22.748 [UNKNOWN]: A streets of rage carry a boss. 03:02:22.768 --> 03:02:22.928 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:02:23.209 --> 03:02:23.549 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:02:25.391 --> 03:02:25.611 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:02:27.192 --> 03:02:28.213 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's fucking shun. 03:02:31.456 --> 03:02:36.501 [UNKNOWN]: The godfather, Takashi Sugira, oh, so I was going to be Kamal Mustafa. 03:02:36.601 --> 03:02:36.781 [UNKNOWN]: No. 03:02:36.801 --> 03:02:37.522 [UNKNOWN]: The

godfather. 03:02:37.562 --> 03:02:38.823 [UNKNOWN]: That would be interesting. 03:02:38.843 --> 03:02:40.985 [UNKNOWN]: But now he's coming down with the hose. 03:02:41.595 --> 03:02:55.468 [UNKNOWN]: there's there is an era of no one that would not have been that unlikely well more all Japan all Japan had their weird like all Japan like when you had that weird deep like d-lo brown I think d-lo brown it like an extensive run in all of a sudden it's a mall and like what are we doing here? 03:02:55.488 --> 03:02:57.830 [UNKNOWN]: uh... and then the lunatic wolf alpha wolf 03:02:58.750 --> 03:02:59.971 [UNKNOWN]: rounds out your A blocker. 03:03:00.171 --> 03:03:03.593 [UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to be in a more ashamed haste. 03:03:03.733 --> 03:03:08.176 [UNKNOWN]: You can, you know, Casper Gita, Chen, Siguera, and Alpha Wolf is your A blocker. 03:03:08.196 --> 03:03:08.556 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 03:03:08.576 --> 03:03:09.337 [UNKNOWN]: I think it at block. 03:03:09.717 --> 03:03:10.177 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 03:03:10.237 --> 03:03:10.818 [UNKNOWN]: Matches there. 03:03:10.898 --> 03:03:14.300 [UNKNOWN]: I'm fired up about 10 versus Casper Gita. 03:03:14.340 --> 03:03:15.641 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's, that's going to be you. 03:03:16.441 --> 03:03:17.222 [UNKNOWN]: No, what's that about? 03:03:17.342 --> 03:03:18.602 [UNKNOWN]: That's going to be a match for sure. 03:03:19.543 --> 03:03:21.164 [UNKNOWN]: B block, quote, Mr. 03:03:21.244 --> 03:03:21.764 [UNKNOWN]: Pain in the 03:03:30.695 --> 03:03:32.676 [UNKNOWN]: He's probably mad that that's his nickname. 03:03:32.696 --> 03:03:33.817 [UNKNOWN]: He's mad that he's coming out here. 03:03:33.837 --> 03:03:34.798 [UNKNOWN]: He's mad that he's wrestling. 03:03:34.818 --> 03:03:36.559 [UNKNOWN]: He's just like fucking Mr. 03:03:36.599 --> 03:03:36.779 [UNKNOWN]: Pain. 03:03:36.839 --> 03:03:37.079 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 03:03:37.500 --> 03:03:39.241 [UNKNOWN]: Black Sun, Kenta. 03:03:40.702 --> 03:03:42.043 [UNKNOWN]: Black Sun, Kenta. 03:03:42.063 --> 03:03:45.025 [UNKNOWN]: Big, big death care for cutie fan, Kenta. 03:03:45.225 --> 03:03:47.747 [UNKNOWN]: Black, black whole sun, little soundgarden. 03:03:47.767 --> 03:03:49.768 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe he's a soundgarden guy. 03:03:49.788 --> 03:03:50.889 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe he's a death care for cutie guy. 03:03:50.909 --> 03:03:51.509 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what it is. 03:03:53.130 --> 03:04:06.073 [UNKNOWN]: can't a black son uh... the elegant avenger tetsuya endo i hope he goes over fucking eight the elegant avenger at the fuck at a uh... the elegant avenger uh... the passion boss 03:04:06.997 --> 03:04:12.639 [UNKNOWN]: But I was so yeah, now that is a, that when you're done with the passion general, and you're like, what's part two? 03:04:12.679 --> 03:04:13.960 [UNKNOWN]: It's the passion boss. 03:04:14.000 --> 03:04:15.380 [UNKNOWN]: It's a passion boss, yeah. 03:04:15.400 --> 03:04:16.381 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you want sure. 03:04:16.681 --> 03:04:17.681 [UNKNOWN]: You want some passion? 03:04:18.041 --> 03:04:19.722 [UNKNOWN]: You get the fucking passion boss. 03:04:20.142 --> 03:04:21.603 [UNKNOWN]: Fabio in like a nice business. 03:04:21.643 --> 03:04:22.683 [UNKNOWN]: You don't even have a right. 03:04:22.703 --> 03:04:25.244 [UNKNOWN]: Right, the passion boss. 03:04:25.284 --> 03:04:27.865 [UNKNOWN]: This one's very, I think disrespectful. 03:04:28.526 --> 03:04:31.087 [UNKNOWN]: The former O'Wadassan is back as Couga. 03:04:32.167 --> 03:04:34.468 [UNKNOWN]: Couga, KOU GA. 03:04:36.352 --> 03:04:38.773 [UNKNOWN]: his nickname is quote, the work in progress. 03:04:38.813 --> 03:04:39.813 [UNKNOWN]: That doesn't see it. 03:04:41.214 --> 03:04:42.514 [UNKNOWN]: Now he came from progress. 03:04:42.574 --> 03:04:43.474 [UNKNOWN]: Remember his is his. 03:04:43.694 --> 03:04:44.075 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 03:04:44.715 --> 03:04:45.175 [UNKNOWN]: I get it. 03:04:45.315 --> 03:04:50.557 [UNKNOWN]: But also like the work in progress, I feel like he should be a finished, like the finished product should be what it, right? 03:04:50.577 --> 03:04:51.557 [UNKNOWN]: Like the finished product. 03:04:53.015 --> 03:04:54.635 [UNKNOWN]: Well, there'd be an honest about it. 03:04:55.576 --> 03:04:56.616 [UNKNOWN]: It's a work of progress. 03:04:56.876 --> 03:05:00.897 [UNKNOWN]: It's an interesting way to promote Pro Wrestling, but they're just being, I'm like, ah, we don't know about this guy. 03:05:01.417 --> 03:05:06.918 [UNKNOWN]: We know he could beat Gene Money, but we're not sure how he could stack up to the competition here in Pro Wrestling, Noah. 03:05:08.218 --> 03:05:13.660 [UNKNOWN]: He really gave it to Karen Noar, but we're not sure how he did do against but I was slowly at the passion boss. 03:05:13.820 --> 03:05:14.780 [UNKNOWN]: So, mm-hmm. 03:05:15.478 --> 03:05:20.020 [UNKNOWN]: We'll see, the franchise, Titus Alexander, Titus Alexander, get a nice little booking here. 03:05:20.040 --> 03:05:21.621 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, come in here. 03:05:22.061 --> 03:05:23.202 [UNKNOWN]: I guess from Marvelous. 03:05:23.222 --> 03:05:25.843 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know that there's no Marvelous representative here. 03:05:25.863 --> 03:05:26.723 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:05:26.743 --> 03:05:30.585 [UNKNOWN]: The chairman, Masa Kittimia, last year's winner, right? 03:05:30.965 --> 03:05:31.585 [UNKNOWN]: And the real level. 03:05:31.605 --> 03:05:33.426 [UNKNOWN]: Rolling him last year's winner or the chairman? 03:05:33.446 --> 03:05:35.287 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, the last year's winner is my note. 03:05:35.327 --> 03:05:36.888 [UNKNOWN]: He's the chairman, Masa Kittimia. 03:05:37.364 --> 03:05:39.204 [UNKNOWN]: is La Parca insulted by this. 03:05:39.865 --> 03:05:42.425 [UNKNOWN]: I would be if I was the one who would share that. 03:05:42.445 --> 03:05:44.526 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely. 03:05:44.586 --> 03:05:45.926 [UNKNOWN]: And the real rebel Ozzawa. 03:05:46.426 --> 03:05:48.007 [UNKNOWN]: David Finley, oh, OK.

Yeah. 03:05:48.107 --> 03:05:49.107 [UNKNOWN]: Like rebel. 03:05:50.527 --> 03:05:51.628 [UNKNOWN]: We need a rabble. 03:05:52.708 --> 03:05:53.788 [UNKNOWN]: We need a rabble. 03:05:53.868 --> 03:05:59.129 [UNKNOWN]: I wish God damn I wish David Finley was unfucked in the end one and not on AEW. 03:06:00.850 --> 03:06:03.911 [UNKNOWN]: That could have a boring ass match with Jay White. 03:06:04.991 --> 03:06:05.371 [UNKNOWN]: God. 03:06:05.837 --> 03:06:07.357 [UNKNOWN]: fucking cares about David Finley. 03:06:07.377 --> 03:06:08.818 [UNKNOWN]: That's the best ol' B-block. 03:06:08.838 --> 03:06:09.198 [UNKNOWN]: That's it. 03:06:09.238 --> 03:06:09.938 [UNKNOWN]: That's B-block. 03:06:09.958 --> 03:06:10.478 [UNKNOWN]: So A-block? 03:06:10.498 --> 03:06:30.081 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 03:06:34.470 --> 03:06:39.826 [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's not exactly the the the 2016 G1 B block, but I mean it's 03:06:41.902 --> 03:06:44.082 [UNKNOWN]: Someone's gonna look at up now and maybe that block stunk. 03:06:44.323 --> 03:06:45.363 [UNKNOWN]: I'm just taking this thing. 03:06:45.383 --> 03:06:46.283 [UNKNOWN]: No, dude, those are three ones. 03:06:46.363 --> 03:06:48.263 [UNKNOWN]: Man, I was, I was, I did the flagship plus. 03:06:48.283 --> 03:06:50.984 [UNKNOWN]: Yesterday, I did like this day and wrestling history in his August 12th. 03:06:51.444 --> 03:06:53.164 [UNKNOWN]: And like there was like four fucking incredible matches. 03:06:53.204 --> 03:06:56.485 [UNKNOWN]: You had a write up about O'Cotta, time of how she's time limit draw. 03:06:56.505 --> 03:06:57.125 [UNKNOWN]: That was awesome. 03:06:57.145 --> 03:06:58.845 [UNKNOWN]: I read it pretty much for Baitham. 03:06:59.266 --> 03:07:00.486 [UNKNOWN]: Bravo to you, great work there. 03:07:00.846 --> 03:07:06.407 [UNKNOWN]: But like going back, it was like all four of these years all had and I was like, oh my God, like look at these G1 shows. 03:07:06.587 --> 03:07:07.328 [UNKNOWN]: It's absurd. 03:07:07.348 --> 03:07:14.112 [UNKNOWN]: Like I know that this was a good G1, but it's like, God damn it, I shouldn't have done that because I was like, oh look at what these were. 03:07:14.172 --> 03:07:15.333 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're never gonna go back to that. 03:07:15.613 --> 03:07:17.054 [UNKNOWN]: And we shouldn't compare it and I get it. 03:07:17.114 --> 03:07:18.275 [UNKNOWN]: I understand it, but G's. 03:07:18.315 --> 03:07:19.316 [UNKNOWN]: Time march is right. 03:07:19.336 --> 03:07:20.517 [UNKNOWN]: It's, it's correct. 03:07:20.677 --> 03:07:23.539 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, listen, I tried to warn people in real time. 03:07:23.559 --> 03:07:27.542 [UNKNOWN]: I said you better appreciate the time and speed it weren't because it does not last. 03:07:27.682 --> 03:07:32.565 [UNKNOWN]: I've seen too many times where these promotions, it can't, it cannot last forever. 03:07:33.266 --> 03:07:34.307 [UNKNOWN]: We were so, 03:07:35.007 --> 03:07:37.008 [UNKNOWN]: fortunate to have it last as long as it did. 03:07:37.348 --> 03:07:39.248 [UNKNOWN]: All right, you want the 2016 B-Blocka? 03:07:41.129 --> 03:07:45.671 [UNKNOWN]: I feel like NATO was always anchoring the B-Block like in a yearly basis. 03:07:45.731 --> 03:07:48.251 [UNKNOWN]: Well, he was anchoring this one too much, but he was in the B-Block. 03:07:48.432 --> 03:07:50.312 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was always in the fucking B-Block. 03:07:50.332 --> 03:07:51.953 [UNKNOWN]: All right, what was the B-Block? 03:07:52.193 --> 03:07:52.953 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, Kenny Omega. 03:07:54.153 --> 03:07:55.494 [UNKNOWN]: 2016, Tetsuya, Naito. 03:07:56.774 --> 03:07:57.875 [UNKNOWN]: Katsuyiko, Nakajima. 03:07:57.895 --> 03:07:57.975 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm. 03:07:59.935 --> 03:08:00.456 [UNKNOWN]: Torruyano. 03:08:04.922 --> 03:08:08.385 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, he had a five-star match, he had a five-star match with Knight to one guy. 03:08:08.405 --> 03:08:09.906 [UNKNOWN]: Damn, right, you did. 03:08:09.946 --> 03:08:11.107 [UNKNOWN]: 2016 Ketsur is Shabbada. 03:08:11.888 --> 03:08:12.108 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:08:12.549 --> 03:08:21.196 [UNKNOWN]: Evil, Tomuyaki Hanma, usually Nagada and Yoshi Hashie was your pre-broken neck Tomuyaki Hanma. 03:08:21.236 --> 03:08:22.297 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, still pretty fucking good. 03:08:23.238 --> 03:08:24.699 [UNKNOWN]: Eugene Nagada, who's the other guy? 03:08:24.899 --> 03:08:25.460 [UNKNOWN]: Yoshi Hashie. 03:08:26.416 --> 03:08:27.077 [UNKNOWN]: All right, fuck him. 03:08:27.397 --> 03:08:30.781 [UNKNOWN]: All right, there's only three shitty wrestlers in that entire block. 03:08:30.901 --> 03:08:31.582 [UNKNOWN]: That's a good block. 03:08:32.182 --> 03:08:36.928 [UNKNOWN]: And if you had knights where they were wrestling each other, man, you were in business. 03:08:37.028 --> 03:08:38.389 [UNKNOWN]: Holy shit, look at that block. 03:08:39.310 --> 03:08:40.712 [UNKNOWN]: That's when Dr. Gima beat. 03:08:42.125 --> 03:08:43.185 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, hold on. 03:08:43.565 --> 03:08:44.686 [UNKNOWN]: No, not could you, man, never mind. 03:08:44.726 --> 03:08:48.287 [UNKNOWN]: I was thinking of the year Marifuji Beetle Cotta. 03:08:48.327 --> 03:08:53.328 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was, that might have been 2015 or 14. 03:08:53.428 --> 03:08:54.509 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I forget. 03:08:54.529 --> 03:08:55.349 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe 14, maybe 14. 03:08:55.369 --> 03:08:56.949 [UNKNOWN]: Might have been the same year, might have been 16. 03:08:57.369 --> 03:08:58.510 [UNKNOWN]: Actually, might have been the other block. 03:08:59.470 --> 03:08:59.890 [UNKNOWN]: Let me see. 03:09:00.430 --> 03:09:01.431 [UNKNOWN]: I'm maybe going to see the block. 03:09:01.491 -->

03:09:02.851 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, there you go, block, yeah. 03:09:03.051 --> 03:09:03.751 [UNKNOWN]: There is. 03:09:03.871 --> 03:09:04.071 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 03:09:04.512 --> 03:09:05.892 [UNKNOWN]: My God, it was that you won great. 03:09:06.868 --> 03:09:07.349 [UNKNOWN]: He'll look at the name. 03:09:07.369 --> 03:09:14.658 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he talked about Kodo, Okada, Tanashi, Bad luck, Fowley, Mirafuji, Togumakame, Tamatanga, Senada, Ishii, and Tansan. 03:09:14.698 --> 03:09:17.021 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, Ablaka, not very great, but okay. 03:09:17.522 --> 03:09:20.806 [UNKNOWN]: Ablaka is really, I mean, still good block. 03:09:20.826 --> 03:09:21.888 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it wasn't the beat block. 03:09:22.108 --> 03:09:26.212 [UNKNOWN]: Here are all the wrestlers that are fucking phenomenal all-time great for wrestlers. 03:09:26.532 --> 03:09:26.993 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 03:09:27.413 --> 03:09:40.005 [UNKNOWN]: Herokigoto, Okada, Tanahashi, Merifuji, Ishi, Kenyomega, Tetsuya Naito, Katya Yukonakajima, Big Mike Michaelog and I know I know, but at that time he fucking rocked. 03:09:40.345 --> 03:09:42.187 [UNKNOWN]: We're talking ball here, you know, saying it. 03:09:42.467 --> 03:09:48.170 [UNKNOWN]: Ketsur is Shibada and Yujinagada and and I'll do Honorable mentioned for totally Akihon, but still in 26. 03:09:48.190 --> 03:09:49.951 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll fucking that command man. 03:09:49.991 --> 03:09:53.514 [UNKNOWN]: Hama was great before the broken with that fucking attack the head I oh man. 03:09:53.614 --> 03:09:57.336 [UNKNOWN]: God is matches worth just fucking on fire Dad, please don't catch it. 03:09:57.436 --> 03:10:00.898 [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna hit this fucking thing and the crowd just live in and die in my every little head, but yeah 03:10:01.620 --> 03:10:19.247 [UNKNOWN]: Listen, remember when is the lowest form of conversation, but, but, but, but that shit was great, I mean, you know, it's just, um, you'd come out of a G1 in that era with like, fucking 44, like four and a half star math. 03:10:19.287 --> 03:10:24.009 [UNKNOWN]: You used to say like people would do like, who's your wrestle with here and they're like, no stop, I'm not talking about it until after the G1. 03:10:29.249 --> 03:10:33.451 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, I'm not trying to bag on modern New Japan, but that's not the case anymore. 03:10:33.511 --> 03:10:37.332 [UNKNOWN]: You have to wait for the G1 to like start talking awards. 03:10:38.172 --> 03:10:40.233 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man, just a different listen. 03:10:40.693 --> 03:10:42.674 [UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of unfair to this generation. 03:10:42.754 --> 03:10:44.035 [UNKNOWN]: Of course, yeah, they can't live up to that. 03:10:44.335 --> 03:10:45.655 [UNKNOWN]: You can't, you can't live up to it. 03:10:46.075 --> 03:10:53.518 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, to have two straight generations of that quality is fucking impossible, you can't. 03:10:54.219 --> 03:10:56.059 [UNKNOWN]: So they have to be their own wrestlers. 03:10:56.079 --> 03:10:57.660 [UNKNOWN]: They have to carve out their own style. 03:10:59.340 --> 03:11:01.842 [UNKNOWN]: And I think that they took steps to do that this year. 03:11:03.183 --> 03:11:10.709 [UNKNOWN]: They can't try to have the same kind of epics that that generation of wrestlers had because they're incapable of achieving it. 03:11:10.829 --> 03:11:12.670 [UNKNOWN]: No, and some of those guys are special. 03:11:12.710 --> 03:11:20.496 [UNKNOWN]: And I think with the benefit of hindsight, now we see just how special Kenny Omega was and just how special O'Cotta was and just how special night to was and just how special Tana Hashi was. 03:11:21.016 --> 03:11:22.177 [UNKNOWN]: Like that, that's eshi. 03:11:22.217 --> 03:11:24.819 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are all time all time all time guys. 03:11:24.899 --> 03:11:25.540 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can't. 03:11:26.084 --> 03:11:41.331 [UNKNOWN]: there were g ones in that era where there would be guys like a bushy and shabata where they had no chance to fucking win they were going to go four and five but they were going to have seven four star matches yeah and they were just also rants in the fucking tournament like you know it's uh... 03:11:42.640 --> 03:11:47.323 [UNKNOWN]: It's just, yeah, it's unfair in a lot of ways, but it is what it is. 03:11:47.363 --> 03:11:51.566 [UNKNOWN]: These guys have to, they got to be their own thing, have their own kind of matches. 03:11:52.386 --> 03:12:00.031 [UNKNOWN]: The only wrestlers in this year's G1, who were capable of working that kind of style is to cash in a go-to, because he's still hanging around. 03:12:00.111 --> 03:12:10.658 [UNKNOWN]: People like that, Zach Saber Jr. could have hung with those guys before, and he got there at the tail end of it, but he was still in pro wrestling, Noah in 2016, teaming with Ogawa and doing shit like that. 03:12:11.687 --> 03:12:23.374 [UNKNOWN]: Like, there's a couple guys, but it was just, you know, a whole different thing and it's probably not the worst thing that this era is going to carve out their own style and be a different thing. 03:12:26.023 --> 03:12:33.125 [UNKNOWN]: It was just a perfect time of place for guys, yeah, it was special and I tried to tell people in real time look enjoy this while you have it It doesn't last forever. 03:12:33.245 --> 03:12:41.268 [UNKNOWN]: It can't last forever and it lasted like almost a full decade, which is incredible and we should be grateful and it's one of the greatest 03:12:42.088 --> 03:12:45.090 [UNKNOWN]: time in places of any wrestling promotion of all time. 03:12:45.231 --> 03:12:53.877 [UNKNOWN]: 2012 to 2012 until NATO vs. Kenta at new beginning 2020. 03:12:54.278 --> 03:12:55.859 [UNKNOWN]: That I just a special time in place. 03:12:56.359 --> 03:13:00.703 [UNKNOWN]: That can never be probably never be replicated again in the same way. 03:13:03.125 --> 03:13:03.606 [UNKNOWN]: So there you go. 03:13:03.646 --> 03:13:05.407 [UNKNOWN]: That is it for the

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