บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ DEMONIC OR DIVINE? The Controversial World of Psychic Mediums

between. 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:01.120 So let's get started. 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.080 Last night I went to this ghost tour. 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:17.120 It was just interesting because you're going throughout these old buildings, and the tour guide is telling us about, you know, this person died under these circumstances and this happened. 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:23.439 And I thought to myself, are these people that have passed on, are they tormented? 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:24.560 Are they stuck? 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:26.159 Are they confused? 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:32.400 Because a lot of it was almost like people had reported it as bad energy or negative energy. 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:40.240 There was one in particular where it was like an apartment and they had several tenants throughout the years in this apartment. 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.120 And a gentleman had died in that apartment. 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:49.280 They didn't say how he died or anything like that, but it was a long time ago, like in the 20s or 30s. 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:50.080 Oh, wow. 00:03:50.319 --> 00:04:09.919 And they had experienced the same type of things where like they would have a dish or a glass on the counter or their nightstand and it would be pushed off and shattered to the floor, or they would have picture frames on the walls that they would leave and come home and they would all be on the floor and shattered. 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:11.199 Certain things like that. 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.599 And I got to thinking, like, how sad. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:14.800 What is that? 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.399 Is it that they can't move on? 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.839 Is that they're stuck here? 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:21.279 Is this their sort of version of hell? 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.199 So there's earthbounds. 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:23.519 Okay. 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:27.439 So earthbounds are spirits that have not crossed over to heaven. 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.279 They, I guess you could say, yeah, they're stuck here by choice. 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:32.800 They could be stuck here by choice. 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:37.839 They could be stuck here because they feel like they need to do some more work. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.160 They feel like they weren't ready to die. 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:45.199 They got they died too quickly, they were taken out of their body too quick, and they missed the light. 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:50.079 It could be a lot of different reasons of why they are here still. 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.199 Most of them is because they don't want to move on. 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:59.920 They want to stay where they're at, especially if they're attached to a home, attached to a family, attached to something. 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.240 They feel like they need to still be here. 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.759 Some don't even know that they died until it's been a while. 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.639 And then they realize, oh

my gosh, I'm I'm not alive, you know. 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.480 So it just depends on the spirit. 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:19.519 I can only speak at them by experience and what I know, but I do know that there are some spirits that are not trying to scare you, but there is a frequency thing. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:26.959 And so if they're trying to get your attention, they could knock over a frame and it, you know, so they're trying to get your attention. 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.199 A lot of them are not trying to scare you. 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:54.399 Um, but then saying that, I'm gonna sound like I'm contradicting myself because then there are some spirits that do have a negative energy to them and they do, you know, want you out of their home or they don't like the energy that you bring in, you know, and so it just depends on where it's at and what what the spirit, what their intentions are, or no intentions, if that makes any sense. 00:05:54.720 --> 00:06:02.480 So if somebody thinks there's an energy or a spirit in their home and they want it gone, what do you recommend that they do? 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.600 Can you walk us through the steps of what you would suggest? 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:06.639 Sure, yeah. 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:10.160 The first thing is there there is a spirit universal law. 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.519 When you tell the spirit to leave, they literally have to go. 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:14.399 They have to leave. 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.800 That doesn't mean that they leave the house forever, but they have to leave you alone. 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:20.480 So that's the first thing I try. 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:22.160 I'm just like, nope, you're not welcomed here. 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.000 You know, I usually say thank you. 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:25.279 Thank you for coming. 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.439 Thank you for showing up and letting me know that you're here, but I'm gonna need you to leave. 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.199 I don't, I don't want you here. 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.120 This is your time is gone here. 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.439 And I literally talk to them like that. 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.120 That's the first thing I do. 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:40.399 Then I go around and I do a sage. 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.560 Um, so I'll sage the whole entire house. 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.600 I'll do Palo Santo, which is also known as Holywood. 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.639 I will go ahead and do either Palo Santo or Sage. 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:53.360 White Sage, um, you could do Mugwart sage, you could do Nak Chamna sage. 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.759 I mean, there's hundreds of different sages, but the intention is what is there. 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:01.600 The white sage is, I mean, you just that's all you really need. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:08.000 And then you go through the whole entire home and you clear the energy of anything that's negative. 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:15.920 If you have any of their possessions in the home and they could be folding on, so like antiques, that's a big one. 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.959 I won't let an antique in my house, even if I cleanse it. 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:20.240 Nope, not coming in. 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.639 I can still feel the people attached to it. 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.279 So I won't even go into an antique shop. 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:26.639 I hate walking by them. 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:29.759 No, it just short circuits me. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:43.279 So that would be another thing if you bring a piece in from another home, even if it came from like a really high vibe energy, those pieces in homes have energies that people are connected to or energies that are stuck to it. 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:47.600 So it could be generations stuck to this piece, you know what I mean? 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:52.399 So it could be a base, it could be a shelving unit, it could be anything. 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:56.879 I would stage all that too, all your furniture and everything. 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:05.680 If you have a negative or you're concerned you have a negative, you can get these little charcoal discs and you can light those. 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:13.439 And if it smells like sulfur, then you probably have something more negative in your in your space that should take care of it. 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:26.399 Another thing I do is above all my doors, I have a white selenite stick, and I stick that above all my doors that clears any energy walking in and out of my rooms or space wherever you're at. 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.560 Another thing you could do is put salt on top of your door frame. 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:36.720 It can be um Himalayan salt, sea salt, black salt's the best, um, and table salt. 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:37.919 I mean, you can use that too. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.240 You can use pepper if you don't have anything. 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:41.600 Pepper works too. 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:48.080 And then outside my home, I go around with salt all the way around, and that clears energy as well. 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:49.919 So there's there's a lot of different things. 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:55.440 You can have a medium come in like myself, and you could have them come in, feel it out. 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:56.399 Are they negative? 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:57.519 Are they positive? 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:04.000 We can see if they're ready to cross over and if they're willing to cross over, we can try to help them cross over. 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.279 I've been successful and I've been unsuccessful with that. 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.279 So it's really up to the spirit. 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:12.720 What if somebody has an urn in their home? 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:15.200 Well, the energy is in there. 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:26.000 So again, if the person is of love and light, it's probably not gonna affect anything, but their ashes will pull their

spirit right into that home. 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:26.960 Absolutely. 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:28.559 A picture can do it. 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.039 You calling their name can do it. 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.320 So it's like, you know, when you say, Don't summon, right? 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:38.000 If I talk about my dad or my sister, I feel them, I hear them. 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:38.879 I instantly. 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:40.639 It's like a phone call, you know. 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:48.080 So you can totally bring anybody in just by calling their name, by looking at a picture, holding their ashes. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.759 I mean, if the spirit wants to come and visit you at that moment, they'll come. 00:09:52.240 --> 00:10:07.840 If somebody is having a recurring energy or feeling a spirit in their home, if they don't want it there anymore, and if they discovered, well, oh my gosh, I just realized I had a picture of me and my grandfather in my house. 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:09.440 What do they do with that? 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.039 They take it out, they take it out and frame and put it away. 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:13.759 What do they do? 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.120 No, not necessarily. 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:20.000 You just have to communicate with the spirit and just say, Hey, grandpa, I'm glad you're here, but stop scaring me. 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.840 Or, you know, like, hey, grandpa, I'm really happy that you're here. 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:24.960 I love this picture of us. 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:26.159 They don't want to get rid of it. 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.399 You just have to talk to them and tell them what you want. 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:35.200 If you don't want them hanging out, you just say, Come and peek in on me and then be gone, you know, or sage the frame. 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:36.960 I mean, you could do anything like that. 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:38.639 You're just clearing the energy. 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:42.080 Spirits don't want you to be afraid of them unless they're a negative spirit. 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:51.279 Most spirits of our loved ones, they're literally there to watch over us, to be with us, to support us, to let you know that we're there. 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.320 So they make it very well known that they're there. 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.159 They want you to know that they're there. 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:59.919 So when you're thinking about someone that passed away and your thoughts, guess what? 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:01.360 They're actually visiting you. 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.639 When something reminds you of them, they're doing that. 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.480 They don't want to be a secret. 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:13.440 So if you are uncomfortable with that, which is totally fine, you just have to tell them, please look at me from afar. 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.919 Don't come in my home, don't scare me in my home. 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:16.879 And they won't. 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:17.600 They won't. 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:24.240 Here's the thing with spirit: they don't know half of the time that they're scaring you, they don't know half the time that they're making those noises. 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.519 It's all energy, it's all a frequency. 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:32.879 So sometimes they are very unaware that they are moving something. 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:39.679 They could just be walking by and their frequency moves it and they didn't even realize they moved it. 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.720 Have you ever felt like somebody touched you? 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:43.519 Yes. 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:44.159 Yeah. 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:50.000 So sometimes they're just putting their hands on you or just letting you know, like, hey, I got your back or whatever. 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:54.000 And their energy, your frequency and their frequency matched. 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.519 And so you're like, oh my gosh, I swear to God, somebody just touched me. 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.519 They didn't even know they probably touched you. 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:02.320 They were touching you, but didn't know that you could feel them, you know. 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:04.799 So, because they're just an essence of energy. 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.519 I've experienced that many times myself. 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:14.559 And and I know we talked about this before on our last episode that we did together, but my dad passed away a few years ago. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:20.080 There's been times where maybe I'm having a bad day or I'm feeling kind of depressed, and I'll find a dime. 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:28.879 And we've talked about ways that people who have passed can communicate with us just to kind of say, hey, I'm here, or give a little bit of encouragement. 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:35.679 What are some other ways that people can sense their loved ones giving them a message? 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:37.519 Your typical signs, right? 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:40.720 So, like music on the radio that reminds you of them. 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.639 All of a sudden you're on social media and their picture pops up. 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:45.840 That's them doing that. 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:52.000 You know how that happens a lot, where all of a sudden you get a picture of the day or something that can happen. 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:53.840 Mostly it's telepathic. 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.039 So they're in your thoughts. 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:59.600 Dimes, feathers, butterflies, animals are huge. 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.159 They really work through animal energy. 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:07.120 So, like whether that's a bird, a deer, you know, anything like that that would represent. 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.720 So anytime I see like a deer, I instantly think of my grandpa because he loved to deer hunt. 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.519 That was always like a big joke because he never really deer hunted. 00:13:15.600 -->

00:13:17.279 He just said he did, you know, that kind of thing. 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:17.600 Yeah. 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.919 So and he loved deer, right? 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.759 So the other day I was driving and there was a white-tailed deer. 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.039 And so we used to have a cabin on white-tailed trail. 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.879 And I haven't seen a white-tailed deer in I can't tell you how long. 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:39.039 And it literally was running with me with my car, and it stopped, and then it went in front of me, stopped and looked at me, and I was like, Oh my god, grandpa. 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.840 And the other thing is the first person that pops into your thoughts that has passed. 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:53.039 So, like if you see a feather and then somebody that pops, like, say your grandmother or something, that is them telling you, yes, this is me. 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:55.200 So they make it no secret. 00:13:55.440 --> 00:14:08.879 For instance, one day, I don't know if I share this with you, but one day I was sitting outside on my deck and a hummingbird came and sat on my knee and then literally touched down, took up and said, Hey, Kirst. 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.840 And that's how she used to say my name, hey Kirst. 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.399 And I was like, Oh my god, you're a hummingbird. 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:21.519 And so now I see hummingbirds and Jody pops into my thoughts and I know it's her, or I'll see a dragonfly and I'll hear Joe. 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.320 And I'm like, Oh, she's both, you know. 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.000 So they can be more than one thing, too. 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:28.480 Okay. 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.240 Dreams, dreams, dreams, dreams is another one. 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:33.840 So that's huge. 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.039 And and that's when you get like a real live visit. 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.080 They come into your dreams. 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:40.320 That here's what can throw people off. 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:45.600 Sometimes you could be having a dream, makes no sense, right? 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:58.320 But you see them, or you don't really see them, but you can feel that they were there, you know, or somebody you're you feel like you're talking to like your dad, and but it doesn't look like your dad. 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:06.480 But you know when you wake up, you're like, I swear to god, that was my dad, but it didn't it didn't look like my dad, it didn't sound like my dad, it was still your dad. 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:19.360 So it's again, it works on on what you're dreaming, where your frequency is, where their frequency is, and it's like you it has to match perfectly sometimes to you know get that image of them. 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.960 And they will present younger, sometimes they present older. 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:40.720 I don't know if I've shared this with you before, but a lot of times in a reading, when um

somebody will come through, I know that they passed maybe in their 60s, 70s, but they're presenting to me maybe in their 30s or 40s, and that can be really tricky because I'd be like, oh, there's a young presence coming through. 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.919 And I'm like, no, they're presenting young. 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:53.200 And so spirits a lot of times will take on the age that they felt the most vibrant, where they were the healthiest, where they were the happiest in life. 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:54.480 So they will come through. 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:59.759 So that can be confusing too if you can actually sense or feel them or see them in a dream. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.879 I think it's interesting because we as human beings, we live in a 3D world. 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:09.840 We can't conceptualize that a spirit isn't bound by time or space. 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.440 We're bound by our bodies, right? 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:12.480 Until we pass. 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:18.159 So is what you're saying that a spirit can take on many different forms? 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:26.639 Like your sister could go into that hummingbird and and give you a sign, or is she just sending the hummingbird as a sign to you? 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:29.039 She's pretty much sending the hummingbird as a sign. 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:29.519 Okay. 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:36.399 So it's not like you're saying that hummingbird is my sister, she's reincarnated into this hummingbird. 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:37.600 No, no, no, no, no. 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:38.320 Not at all. 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:39.679 Thank you for clearing that up. 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:40.559 Thank you for clearing that up. 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:42.639 Yeah, a representation of them. 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:43.919 Yes, thank you. 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:49.600 Because here's the thing you cannot reincarnate in the same lifetime. 00:16:49.919 --> 00:17:00.799 Okay, so uh, you can have people come in your life and even like say a a nephew or a grandchild or a great grandchild, and you're like, oh my gosh, I swear to God, that's my dad. 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:10.000 They cannot reincarnate in the same lifetime because they have to go and do work and they have to make new soul contracts, and they got a lot of lessons to learn, right? 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:23.599 So before they even come back, they gotta do some work, but they can throw like their loves, their likes, their characteristics, their personalities through other family members, even dogs, even cats. 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:28.000 Like sometimes we're like, I just spread a gut, you're my dad, you know, to my cat. 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.759 And I'm like, I know you're not though. 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:30.480 You know what I mean? 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:30.880 Yeah. 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:45.519 So the spirits can really train, if you will, like that's a terrible word to say, but they really can train other humans or other animals to

represent them or to remind you of them through characteristics, personalities, etc. 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:56.720 So this right here is a very interesting subject to me because talking about soul contracts, I've listened to people like Dolores Cannon. 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:58.720 I don't know if you're familiar with I love her. 00:17:59.200 --> 00:17:59.440 Yes. 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:00.319 Love, yes. 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:16.559 So listening to her talk about soul contracts, and it's very interesting to me that the concept of we're basically with a group of people that we've agreed to come and do this journey with, right? 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:17.119 Yeah. 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:31.839 And it's it's funny because I have heard people say, like, somebody in the family will pass away, like an older individual, a grandfather or grandmother figure, and then somebody will get pregnant, like almost within the a month or so. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.519 And they're like, oh, that's probably grandma or that's probably grandpa. 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.039 But you're saying they can't come back in the same lifetime. 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:48.319 So does that mean that everyone within your group, so to speak, has to pass before a new, like you come back with a new group? 00:18:48.799 --> 00:19:01.440 You could come back with the same group because from my knowledge of it, is in my experience, when you pass away, if you haven't learned your lessons, then you're gonna come back and you're gonna learn them harder. 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:13.039 Now you're as a different person, you can be oh, yeah, a different you could be a male, you could be a female next lifetime, you could be the mother, and then your mother could be your daughter. 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:25.119 So, yeah, so your soul group is sometimes in another lifetime, you're gonna have the same group come with you because you guys haven't learned your lessons with each other, so you got to come back and relearn them with each other. 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:26.960 But you guys could change roles. 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:37.680 I could come back as a female, I could come back as another intuitive, I could come back, but my husband might be different, or my daughter may be different, or my parents may be different, right? 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:52.000 Okay, so this is super interesting to me, just to interject this really quick, because as I have deconstructed the traditional view of God that was branded by Christianity, right? 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.960 Which they give you this totally male figure that's in the sky. 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:11.039 Now I know Catholics believe Mary and all of that, but like evangelical Christianity believes that it's a male figure wholesale, that's it, full stop, no female deity whatsoever. 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.400 Well, I have changed my view on that. 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.680 I believe that God is both male and female. 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:30.240 And so, in the sense that we are created in the image of God, and if God is indeed both genders or no gender, I don't even know what the term would that be, like non-binary. 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:30.799 I don't know. 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:48.640 But essentially both a male and the female energy, then it is possible for us to return in a different life or in a past life be a different gender because it's all fluid in within the spirit, right? 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:50.240 Within the spirit world. 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:51.039 Okay. 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:51.839 Yeah. 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:59.039 So some feminine men in this lifetime, they could have been a female in the last lifetime or two lifetimes ago. 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.039 I'm not saying that's what's happening, but it could, it could totally be that. 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:08.480 I know that I had a lifetime, it was I don't know how many lifetimes I had so many. 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:20.319 Um, but I was a male, and you know, so I had to learn the lessons of what my soul contract was as a male, and in this lifetime, I'm learning it as a female, right? 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:27.519 Okay, so how can somebody figure out or find out what their past lives were? 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.720 So usually past life regressions. 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:32.799 So you could go into a hypnosis. 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:42.559 There's a hundred different ways to find your past life, but the main thing is like a hypnosis, like Doris Canon was used to do. 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:53.599 So you would go into a hypnosis, into it's called past life regression, and they can take you as far back as your first lifetime if you're if you're able to get there. 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:59.519 Like I have um a very, very, very talented astrologer that works for me, and she actually trained. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.079 Under the Dolores Canon system. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.720 But Allie, and she's amazing. 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:06.880 And she will take you back. 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.799 And you'll get the good stuff and the bad stuff in those past lives. 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:18.000 And remember, the reason we are here for having a human experience, our soul is having a human experience to learn lessons. 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.319 So I mean this sound really corny right now, but just think of Earth as a school. 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:23.839 So we're here. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:26.720 Every single person in our life is serving a purpose. 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.000 And we pick that. 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:32.640 So if you picked divorce, you pick that for a reason to learn from it. 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.119 If you picked disease in your life, you pick that to learn from it. 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:45.519 You picked your mom and your dad, and you picked them because you came here to learn a certain lesson from them. 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:46.720 And you did. 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:56.960 You pick

your husband, your kids pick you, you pick your career, you pick your exit date, you pick how you're gonna die, who's gonna be with you, and the time, all of it. 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:13.359 You it's already set, it's already set, and so if once you pass, then you go in life review, and you have to look at all those lessons that you learned and all the lessons you didn't learn, and then you re-encontract to come back for another lifetime. 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:28.000 But here's the kicker that from my experience, what spirit has told me is that if you don't learn the lessons in this lifetime and you recontract the next lifetime, the lessons are gonna be a little bit harder each time. 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.440 So that's why we're always like, oh my God, learn your lessons. 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:33.599 You don't want to come back and do it harder. 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:38.799 If somebody were to have a session with you, would you be able to tell them? 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:40.799 Because, okay, let me back up. 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:45.359 So I had a friend who introduced me to um a medium. 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:46.319 This was years ago. 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:51.279 She says, I went to this medium, she's an older woman, she's been doing this for years, she's awesome. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:56.000 And you know, of course, never going, never talking to a medium before, coming out of Christianity. 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:57.519 I'm super skeptical, right? 00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:59.759 I'm like, okay, you know, what's the gig? 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:00.160 Right. 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:00.559 Right. 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.079 And she's like, I'm like, well, maybe she would look me up on Facebook and find out information before our session. 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:09.039 She's like, no, she doesn't even want to know your name beforehand. 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:09.440 Right. 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:10.799 So I'm like, okay, cool. 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.279 I'm not gonna give her any information. 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:17.920 Even when I go in, I'm not gonna tell her anything that I want to know or anything. 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:19.599 She did ask my name when I got there. 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:23.119 So I told her my name, and then she started doing her reading. 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:29.519 And it was just interesting because my husband's family was coming through. 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:32.319 And I'm like, why are they coming through? 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:43.359 He wasn't there, so they wanted me to deliver a message for them that we were going through something pretty crazy at the time with his family. 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:49.839 And they wanted, you know, his grandmother specifically wanted me to deliver this message to my husband. 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:51.759 And it was just like, wow. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:25:01.839 Well, my friend that took me to the medium, she said that after she got up her session, that the medium told her

that she was on her last life. 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.720 And I thought, well, how would she know if she's on her last life? 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.039 And I didn't know how to feel about that. 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.079 Are you able to tell if somebody's on their final life? 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:19.759 Like they've learned pretty much all the lessons, and this is the final lesson, the final countdown, if you will, that this is it. 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:21.279 What are your thoughts on that? 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.880 So, in my experience, and I've been reading for a long time, and my I'm in my 50s. 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:31.920 So, if that tells you something, um no, I've never been told. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.440 I know I do past lives. 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.119 I can tell you how many lives you've had. 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.279 I can give you the picture, I can tell you the whole gamut. 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:47.839 Um, I can pretty much tell you how many lessons you've learned in this lifetime, but they've never ever shared with me that this would be your last because that's just not how spirit works with me. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.279 So I'm not saying she's wrong. 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:50.480 I would never ever do that. 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.039 Everybody connects differently and has a different superpower, I call it, a different gift. 00:25:55.200 --> 00:26:02.559 Um, but I never personally have experienced being telling somebody that they're in their last life. 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:03.759 So okay. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:04.960 Hopefully she is. 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:06.799 Hopefully she is, but yeah. 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.720 So what does that mean at that point? 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.480 If somebody is indeed in their last life, what does that mean for them? 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:14.400 Do they become a spirit guide? 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:15.440 Do they become an angel? 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:16.799 What does that look like for them? 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:28.720 Well, that depends on what they decide to do once they so they finally they're they're free, they're literally free, they're not coming back for any more lifetimes, and so they can have eternal life, you know, in the afterlife. 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:33.680 So if they choose to become someone's spirit guide, then that's what they'll create. 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:38.240 If they want to be an angel, they'll go into training, obviously, and they could try to be an angel. 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:42.079 But it's literally means like you've done everything you possibly can. 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:47.039 You can finally have afterlife, freedom, peace, and do whatever you want. 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.920 They don't have to come back and learn any more lessons. 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.240 So no more lives for them. 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:58.720 I love the concept of having a birth angel, is that what you call it? 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:05.680 A birth angel or like a spirit guide or a spirit team that kind of goes through each life with you. 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:14.640 How can somebody tap into that if they're really struggling and they're like, I do not know what to do, I need some guidance? 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:19.599 Now, there are certain people that would be like, Well, you would just pray to God and ask for guidance. 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.440 And sure, um, if people believe that, then they would do that. 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.279 Is it kind of the same thing? 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:30.480 Like you're just sort of asking for guidance from the same entity, really. 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:35.920 Yeah, because everyone's born with a spirit guy, and everyone's born with uh a birth angel and a birth guide. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.599 And there's a hundred guys that come with it and a hundred angels that will come too. 00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:50.799 So there's a there is a session that I I do because I think it's very powerful, and I feel like it it it solidifies that you are actually communicating with your angel and or your spirit guide. 00:27:50.960 --> 00:28:00.400 And so I would take you into a meditation and walk you through it and to help you guide you to get to meet your angel or your spirit guide. 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.640 So you could do it through meditation. 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.960 I've heard people do it through hypnosis. 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:17.440 You can just say, hey, angel, I need your help, and then ask them questions and then trust what you get, you know, trust the information that comes to you or the feeling or the signs. 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:28.799 But in my personal experience, I think it's more powerful if you actually take the moment, go into a meditation or have someone guide you into a meditation and actually meet them. 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:32.640 And the way that I do it too is I take I set it up for you. 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.519 I visit I do a visualization meditation. 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.599 I'm in the meditation with you, I'm in the background, so I don't interfere. 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.799 So then when you come out of it, I can be like, okay. 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.640 And then I ask you, and the questions just boom, boom, boom, boom. 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.559 And I'll be like, Yep, I felt the same. 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.000 Oh, nope, I seem the same. 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:55.279 I can I kind of help you give you confirmation, I guess is the best way to say it. 00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:01.119 So if a person comes in to do that, are they like lying on the floor or are they sitting? 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.839 Are they whatever you're comfortable with? 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.960 So if you feel like you're gonna get more comfortable, then I put them on my massage table and get it super, I get it dark. 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.480 I have this music on, I do the whole thing to get them

super relaxed. 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:18.319 Or some people don't want to lay down because they're scared they're gonna fall asleep, even though I'm talking in the background. 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.319 Um, so they sit, you know, so it's really whatever you're comfortable with. 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.839 I've had somebody say, you know what? 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:24.880 I can't do it in the spa. 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:26.319 I have a spa and I have a studio. 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.880 I'm like, let's walk down to the studio, let's go. 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:35.519 And so we went into my meditation yoga studio, got them super cozy, comfy, and they had a very good success. 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.440 And I had the singing bowls going and the whole thing because that's what they needed. 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.319 They resonate with sound, and I was like, let's do it. 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.240 The hard part is trusting. 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:44.720 Okay. 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:50.400 So when your guides, your angels talk to you, it's literally seconds that they answer you. 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:56.960 So, like, if you do ask a question, boom, the answer comes sometimes before the question's even done. 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:04.160 But our ego, our brain, our logical side of us gets in the way and says, Oh no, that can't be the right answer. 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:05.440 Oh no, I'm going crazy. 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.519 Oh my god, no, that didn't really happen. 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:09.359 But it really did happen. 00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.240 It's just going back into the whole trusting. 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:13.839 So, and that's the hard part. 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:17.200 And I always say, listen, your ego is gonna stop you. 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.680 It's your naysayer, it's your negative voice that comes to you all the time. 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:30.240 Your, I call it your woo-woo, your woo-woo brain or your angel or your spirit guide, whoever you're connecting with, they're supportive, they're loving. 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.480 They only put you on the right path. 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.799 They're not here for any agenda, but to make your life easier and happier. 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.720 That is literally what they're there for, to guide you, support you, and love you. 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.759 And so when it comes in, it's like go, go, go within seconds. 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:47.039 You just have to trust it. 00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:48.400 And that's the hard part. 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.680 I always tell my husband, don't put it out into the universe. 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:58.319 He'll say something, sometimes like a negative thing, he'll say, and I'll say, do not put that out to the universe. 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:04.079 So let's talk about that for a second, because I do think there is something to be said for that. 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.319 Speaking things into existence. 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.079 Have you experienced that? 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:21.680 And if you have, what do you recommend for people who maybe are in a negative space, they're they're having a negative mindset about a certain situation and maybe changing that mindset to speak something more positive into existence? 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.400 So I call it the self-talking solution. 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.160 Okay, it's the hardest thing to do. 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:31.440 But I always say when you say something negative, you instantly chase it with something positive. 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:37.440 And so instead of saying, like, oh, I'm never gonna get that job, you say, uh-uh, uh, cancel, cancel, delete, delete. 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.640 I am gonna get that job. 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:39.920 It's just in timing. 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.799 So you have to constantly retrain your brain. 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:54.559 And it's very difficult, especially if you've had this type of mindset your whole life or if you're around other negative people, it's they're like you become a sponge sometimes to other negative people. 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.519 And so I always do affirmations. 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:01.599 I am positive, I am happy, I am safe, I am worthy, I am. 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:02.559 I do those. 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.920 And so when you constantly tell yourself something over and over again, you start to believe it. 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.720 And that's what you have to start doing for yourself. 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:18.160 So, and then the other thing I say is say, okay, so would you tell your children to talk like this to themselves? 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.440 Would you tell your best friend something like this? 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.839 Would you tell your husband, your coworker, whatever? 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.279 And if they say, no, no, then why would you say that to yourself? 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.039 Why would you say that to yourself? 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:34.960 And you'll hear me say all the time, like if somebody says something, or even if myself, I'll say, Oh gosh, I'm never gonna get that. 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:40.720 I'll go, oh no, no, cancel, cancel, delete, delete, because the universe is always listening, always listening. 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:47.359 And it is true, words are vibration, and vibration is what makes things go. 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:48.960 It's an energy, right? 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:54.799 And so if you're gonna talk in a low vibration, you're gonna get you're gonna, you literally are gonna attract it. 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.359 So when people say, Oh my god, I have no luck at all, well, what are how are you talking to yourself? 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.519 What are you doing to change it? 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.759 And do you even recognize it? 00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.559 Because most people don't even recognize it, you know. 00:33:06.720 -->

00:33:16.799 So, and then some people, I have found in my experience working with people, it's a safety net for them because it helps them stay from not getting disappointed. 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.480 It helps them so like if they're always like, Oh, I'll never get back. 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.799 Oh, I have the worst luck always. 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.519 Uh nothing's ever gonna happen, good for me. 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:29.200 That is their protection, and people don't realize that. 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:34.880 But it was, it's like one day I was working with somebody, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's how you protect yourself. 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:41.119 So the shoe doesn't always drop for you, or you don't get disappointed, or you don't get let down. 00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:50.720 And so now I can honestly say it's been about a year and a half to two years, probably closer to two years, and I never hear one negative thing out of their mouth anymore. 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.279 Their life has completely changed. 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:59.279 They got the dream job, they finally found the husband, they're finally pregnant after trying so much. 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.720 They are happy, they literally are walking on sunshine. 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.519 It's a totally different person, and it's just beautiful. 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:13.360 But it took a lot of work on their part, and then I was helping them just to keep them on track, you know. 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.280 But it starts with you a hundred percent starts with you. 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.400 You can change everything if you allow yourself, nobody can change it for you, right? 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:30.880 So if you always want to stay in the negative, you're gonna get negative and you're gonna attract negative people in your life, and you're gonna attract bad luck. 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:36.079 So I would always say to myself or say to other people, why do you feel you need bad luck? 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.079 Why do you feel like you can't? 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.079 So it goes back to the worth. 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.320 That's exactly what it goes back to. 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:48.159 So why do you feel like you're not worthy of that job, or why do you feel like you're not worthy of that relationship? 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.519 What makes you feel that way? 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:54.320 And then I turn it back on them to let them go deeper into them to work on them. 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.519 It's not, it's not the people or the situations around them, it's them. 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.480 They're creating that by their thoughts, their words. 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.960 So think of words like a spell, right? 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:05.599 Exactly. 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:12.559 So every time you throw a word out, good, bad, or indifferent, you are literally casting a spell, you know. 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.000 You really truly are. 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.840 And I don't know if you've ever heard of the the four agreements book. 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.000 No, amazing book, and they talk about that. 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:28.239 There's uh four agreements that I live my life by, and it's being impeccable with your words. 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:39.199 So they talk about the words that you say is like casting a spell in a sense, so it's all vibration, it's about not making assumptions, always doing your best, not being judgy. 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:45.440 And so those are like this book is a game changer for anybody that wants to read it. 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:53.199 You should read it, but those words are constantly throwing out universe listen, and it's gonna come back. 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.119 So be careful what you say. 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.719 Oh, and it's not just words, it's your thoughts too. 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:00.960 Our thoughts are powerful too. 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.760 So, in that our thoughts keep us on a low vibration or a high vibration. 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.519 So, words and thoughts keep us. 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.840 So, I always want to be up here, right? 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:18.079 Because the when you're up here, you're gonna attract better things, you're gonna attract better situations, better people, you're gonna attract what you really want. 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.920 You are a goal setter, your intentions, your manifester, you gotta stay up here. 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.320 You're down here, it's not gonna happen. 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.079 I totally agree with you on that. 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:30.559 I've experienced that myself firsthand many times. 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:46.880 So, within the same vein that we're on with casting spells, I find it interesting because again, coming from that former Christian lens of saying prayers for people, both good and bad. 00:36:47.199 --> 00:37:02.079 I was raised in a church that would pray good things for people, but would also pray that God would bring about destruction to people's lives if they weren't living the way that they felt like they should be living. 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:08.079 And um, now that I'm out of that, I think that is casting a spell. 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.400 To me, it's no different than witchcraft or something like that. 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:19.119 And I think that people should be careful when they do things like that. 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:28.639 Because isn't it kind of the old rule of if you send a negative energy out towards somebody else that it could boomerang back to you? 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:29.599 Absolutely. 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.559 Yeah, absolutely. 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.960 It is not our job to interfere with people's lives, right? 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:42.960 And so if you are trying to interfere in a negative way or sometimes even a positive way, it it is boom, it's gonna come back to you. 00:37:43.119 -->

00:37:45.840 It's not, it's not our responsibility, it's not our job. 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:56.159 And us as humans, we want to take control over things and we we think we know what's best for others, or we think we know what that person should or should not be doing. 00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:03.920 And so when you are literally saying negative things towards them or being like, Man, I wish, I hope to god they don't get that da-da-da-da. 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:04.880 You know what? 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:10.400 You just boomerang back at yourself, so you better cancel that because it will come back. 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:11.519 I do believe in that. 00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.320 I've seen it, it's even happened to me early on. 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.480 We get caught up, right? 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:35.519 So when we're talking to people and you're just like having a conversation, and the one person could start, you know, talking about somebody else, and then everybody just is talking and getting involved in it, and you don't even mean to, but whatever you agree to or whatever you said, you better be careful with that. 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:36.880 I had a rule. 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.639 I I used to work at a salon, and if anybody started talking about anybody, I was out. 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:48.239 I didn't care if I was mid biting a sandwich or what, wrap that baby up, out the door. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:48.719 I was. 00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:57.599 I never wanted to be involved in that because I never wanted it to come back on me just by association and or energetically coming back on me. 00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.079 If I would have said, Oh yeah, I know. 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:02.480 No, no part of it. 00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.679 I wouldn't, yeah, and I still don't like that. 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:12.559 I mean, you're gonna talk and you're gonna talk smack about people once in a while, but then you gotta be really careful because they will come back. 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:12.960 Yeah. 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:14.480 I believe in that 100%. 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:25.840 If somebody believes that somebody has, you know, prayed against them, cursed them, I see it as one and the same, or is directing some kind of negativity towards them. 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:31.119 What steps could they take to protect their peace, to protect themselves? 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:38.239 Or does that require a spiritual practice, or can just setting boundaries or disengaging from the person be enough? 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.719 Um, I definitely set boundaries. 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.159 Um, definitely you can disengage with the person too. 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.119 I mean, it's whatever you feel resonates with you. 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.920 You know, I'm not a person to burn bridges, I'm not a person to cut people off in my life. 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.440 I don't care what you've done to me, I don't, that's not part of me, right? 00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.360 So, but I do put a huge healthy boundary up. 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.199 And so that protects my peace. 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:07.199 And I always tell people whatever you do, protect your peace. 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.679 And how you have to protect your peace, every single other person individually is different, how they have to protect their peace. 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:19.039 You know, some people have to cut off communication, that's the only way they can do it. 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:20.239 Then that works for you. 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:20.960 That's great. 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.440 Some people just put up a boundary, some people just say, Oh, no, I'm sorry. 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:27.039 I should have never said that. 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.320 Sorry, universe. 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:29.199 I take it back. 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.480 I'm so sorry. 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.360 Little things like that, just being apologetic and grateful can really change the energy. 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.119 So if somebody is like, I'm doing all the things, Kirsten. 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:48.719 I'm I'm speaking in a positive way, I'm putting positive things out into the universe, but I feel like I've got a curse over me. 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:54.000 Like somebody is projecting some kind of negative curse or energy towards me. 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:55.760 What can they do? 00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.840 Uh, so first of all, that is very common. 00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:01.920 People can throw energy at you. 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:08.960 The thing that I've learned with curses and all that kind of stuff, if you don't believe in it, it's not gonna stick. 00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:09.440 Okay. 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.639 So if you give it energy, it's gonna stick. 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:23.679 But the one thing that I do is I ground myself, I shield myself, and I ask my spirit team to protect me from any negative energies that are coming or directed at me or talked about me. 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:32.639 And then I put myself in a white light and say, no, nothing that anybody says, does, or tries to project on me can allow to happen to me. 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:35.119 And the basically thing is because I don't believe it. 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.360 I'm not gonna, you there not everybody's that powerful, right? 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.639 You're giving them power, so take their power away. 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.639 Don't believe in it, they can't. 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:53.039 And if you stay positive, if you keep walking on sunshine doing your thing, their negativity is not even gonna touch you. 00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:58.000 It can't possibly touch you because you're way up here and they're way down here. 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:03.039 And the only time it can bring you down or you feel like somebody's cursing you is because you're allowing it. 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:07.599 Can't can't happen unless you

unless you let it. 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:11.039 So you just have to stay on a different frequency. 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:15.280 It's almost like um tuning into a radio station, right? 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:23.440 Or a channel, a TV channel, where you're just like you're turning the knob to something different, you're on a different channel than they are. 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:24.159 Yep. 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.800 Yeah, it's exactly that's the best way to say it. 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.159 Do you know how people try to throw crap at me all the time? 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.840 Oh, I'm sure. 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:38.000 And I know people do the same for me just because they disagree with this podcast and what I'm doing here. 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:43.760 Um, I I know that people are praying against me, sending a curse and all of that. 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.039 I I know that. 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.440 But again, it it doesn't affect me. 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.239 It hasn't affected me, but I just know. 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:57.119 Yeah, and I have people, I mean, I've actually had someone come to me in my face and say, Oh, I just I wish you would just like foul. 00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.280 I just wish you would just not do well. 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:04.079 And I just looked at me and said, That will never happen because I'm not giving you the power. 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:08.880 I'm I feel bad that you feel that way, but I I didn't even know this person. 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:10.000 That was the kicker. 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.199 I couldn't, I couldn't have pointed them out in the lineup. 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:14.239 I didn't even know their name. 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:20.159 And I just said, Well, that's unfortunate that you feel that way, but that will never happen because I don't give you that power. 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:31.039 And then then I also told myself, well, if you know anything about spiritualness or anything, you know, if somebody is living up here and you're living down here, look at the gap in between. 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.559 That's a huge gap. 00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:39.119 You gotta come up, up, up, up, up, up, up to get me, or I gotta go down, down, down, and you're not bringing me down. 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.360 So just think of it like that. 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:42.800 Look at that big gap. 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.039 That takes a long time to get up here. 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.159 So they can't reach you unless you let them. 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:59.440 I think a lot of people have some misconceptions about what uh a medium is or a spirit intuitive is versus. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.679 Somebody who identifies as a witch and practices witchcraft. 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:05.119 Would you agree with that? 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:05.920 A hundred percent. 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:06.960 Do you get that a lot? 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.440 Like, are people are you a witch, Kirsten? 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:10.400 All the time. 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.480 And I, you know, I love like witchy stuff, but I'm not a witch. 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.639 I mean, well, we're all a witch in a way. 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:24.000 I mean, anybody that works with herbs, candles, oils, I mean, that's part of witchery, but there's good and there's bad. 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:25.840 No, but I'm not technically a witch. 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:26.079 No. 00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:27.920 But yes, everybody thinks I am. 00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:29.360 Everybody thinks I am. 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.400 And they'll be like, like the other day, they said, What are you dressing up for? 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.639 And I said, Well, I'm gonna dress up what everybody thinks I am. 00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:35.760 I'm gonna be a witch. 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.199 Because everybody keeps telling me I'm a witch. 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:42.800 So I guess I'll dress up as one of them, but I'm gonna be a cute witch. 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.800 So yeah, I get that all the time. 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.400 And now it's fun for me. 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.360 I just play along with it, you know, because witches don't scare me. 00:44:51.519 --> 00:45:03.599 If you burn a candle, if you work with herbs, whether you cook with them or you put them in your candles, if you set intentions, that spells prayer is spells. 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:09.199 I mean, so if you go into the religious, like Catholics and all the religion, what do they do? 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.119 We sage, right? 00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:15.039 They do the frankincense and they do some of them do sage. 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.599 Same thing, they light their candles, they worship, they light a candle. 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:29.760 You know, you can go in the back of the Catholic church and you can light a candle for somebody, you can light a candle for I mean, so we're all witches in a way, if you think about it. 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.639 It's your intention, whether you're good or whether you're bad. 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:38.559 So if my mom was making potpourri back in the 80s and 90s, she doesn't even realize she's a witch. 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:40.800 She's a witch. 00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:43.119 Because that's what witches did. 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:52.400 They made potions, they made potpourri, they made special herbs for illnesses, they made for food, they for for baths, potions to hurt you. 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.920 I mean, it's all the same, it's all the same. 00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:56.800 So think of this. 00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.960 So we have you cook in a pot, right? 00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:04.639 You put water in it, you know, you might put some herbs, you might put your food in there, and you're stirring that stuff up. 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:06.079 That's a cauldron. 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:08.800 If you think about it, it's no different, you know.

00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:10.239 It just makes me laugh. 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:35.199 But yeah, and I often wonder, and I and I've I've heard some people say that, you know, um, Christianity really demonized women back in the day because women were healers, they were herbalists, they were the midwives of the town, and they were doing all of those things, and they've been demonized over centuries to think that it's a bad thing, and it's really pretty common. 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:49.920 And it's just so funny the correlation between it's not funny, haha, it's it's funny ironic that people don't see the similarities between traditional Christianity and worship rituals that go on in Christianity. 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.039 Even like I was raised independent fundamental Baptists, okay? 00:46:53.519 --> 00:47:02.079 We didn't drink actual wine for communion, but we drank grape juice and we ate a wafer or a cracker, whatever. 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.039 And the whole thing is symbolizing cannibalism, if you think about it. 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:15.199 So you're you're consuming the blood in the body of Jesus Christ, essentially, is what you're thinking. 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:26.480 And to me, it's like when I think of like a Satanist or an occult practice, I think blood sacrifice, I think cannibalism, I think all of these things. 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:38.719 And it's like, well, wait a minute, we need to step back and look at what we're teaching within Christianity with these rituals that we are basically doing the same thing. 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:39.440 Yeah. 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:40.800 I mean, we really are. 00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:42.320 Yeah, we really are. 00:47:42.559 --> 00:48:04.000 So I think when people think about mediumship within Christianity, within that lens, they're always thinking about something evil or demonic because, well, I think one, when people can't explain something or something doesn't fit within their paradigm, of course, they want to make it seem like it's bad. 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:17.199 So, what would you say to somebody that's listening that is a Christian that identifies as a Christian that says, well, I would never visit a medium because I believe that's demonic. 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.320 It's opening up a realm that I don't want to be a part of. 00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.000 What would you say to that person? 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.960 First of all, I respect their opinion. 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:31.679 Um, I always tell them you don't have to understand what I do, but I ask you to respect it because God made me. 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.199 So God made me to be a medium. 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.760 And if you think about it, priests go and they do exorcisms. 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:46.000 They can go into someone's home and they know that there's a dark spirit or a negative spirit or something along that line. 00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.599 So, does that mean that you're not gonna go get a sermon

from them now? 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:54.320 And they'll even say, like, your loved ones are with us, our angels are with us, and this and that. 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:55.440 That's no different. 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:06.719 That I mean, they sit there on the podium and say that, you know, at some churches, and and they'll be like, We are around guardian angels and this and that, and our loved ones are always around us. 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.679 So why is it bad to get a message from them? 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.280 But when I was younger and really opening up, I would ask those questions. 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:16.960 Now I I don't care. 00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:22.000 I don't care because like the only thing I can tell them is like, hey, I respect your opinion. 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:23.440 I'm sorry you feel that way. 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:25.119 Just know that God made me. 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:27.920 So let's talk to God about it. 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:29.760 And they'll be like, really? 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.599 I'm like, I mean, I was born this way. 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:35.280 I've had this gift since I was two. 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.639 Do you think that everybody is born with a gift? 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:55.039 Not necessarily saying that everyone uh is able to talk to deceased loved ones, but saying is everyone now I know, and I don't know all the terms, I know there's like clairvoyant, clairsentient, yeah. 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.360 There's like cyber sex, yeah. 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:13.760 So do you think everyone is born with one of those gifts, but then maybe doesn't realize it, or once they get to a certain age, it sort of goes away because they never tapped into it, or yeah, every single person is born with some sort of well, we're all born with the third eye, right? 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:20.000 So that's clairvoyance, that is your sight, and another thing, everybody has gut instincts, right? 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:21.760 So that would be claircenthia. 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:23.920 That's you feel, right? 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.119 So everybody has you can feel you walk in a room, you can feel you go in, you get the chills, right? 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:33.440 So everybody is born with some sort of psychic ability 100%. 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:39.840 You can't be alive and not have some sort of psychic ability because we see things, we feel things, we know things. 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.519 Sometimes you just know things now. 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.840 Does everybody have all five or six? 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:44.480 No. 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.639 Does everybody have at least one? 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:47.840 Absolutely. 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:54.000 Most people are feelers, that is the most common one that would be called being empathic. 00:50:54.400 --> 00:51:01.199 There isn't anybody that I haven't met that wasn't empathic because that's that's your sensor, that's your body. 00:51:01.360

--> 00:51:03.199 I always say my body's a compass. 00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:08.079 Have you ever just like you walk in a room and you instantly are comfortable or you're not, right? 00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.920 So most everybody is definitely has the gift. 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:13.599 Can you enhance it? 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:14.639 Absolutely. 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:15.519 Should you? 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.639 I think you should, because it only helps you through life. 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.119 It's your truth tell, right? 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:28.079 So our brain and our experiences and our belief systems get us all up whack. 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:29.039 They really do. 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:37.119 But if you just trust yourself and you just listen and let yourself feel, you are gonna have a better path. 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.480 You it because that's what it's designed to do, is put you on a better, safer, happier path. 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:49.679 But then we let this belief system get in and we let people chatter and are no, I wouldn't do that if I were you. 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.360 Why would you even do that? 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:53.760 Why do you know? 00:51:54.639 --> 00:52:07.840 So much power to our ego brain, and we give so much power to our belief system, and we give so much power to the people, our peers, but the all we have to do is push it aside and come back in. 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.639 All the answers are always inside of you. 00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:15.199 Every answer you've ever wanted is sitting right here. 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.800 You just have to trust it, you just have to listen. 00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.760 And people are like, Well, how do you listen? 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.519 Well, you you ask, you talk to yourself and be like, Hey, should I do this? 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.440 Yes, should I go down that trip in July? 00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:32.719 No, okay. 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:34.480 Do I have the money for this? 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:35.039 No. 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.719 Can I trust this person sometimes? 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.360 Oh, sometimes, okay. 00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:42.960 Why sometimes? 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:48.800 And then allow your body, allow yourself to show you and then trust it. 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.360 Trust, trust, trust, trust, trust, trust. 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:52.480 That's the hard part. 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.800 Yeah, and they always say trust your gut, right? 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.320 That's the that's playing. 00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.639 So your gut is your intuition, so your gut is your psychic part. 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:02.880 So that is literally your intuition. 00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:07.360 So when we say trust your gut, that's your intuition, that's what you need to trust. 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:08.239 Absolutely. 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.679 Isn't the gut where your solar plex is located? 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:14.480

Like that that particular chakra. 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.599 Yeah, that's your life force energy right there. 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:19.920 Right here is your life force energy. 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:21.920 And this is what keeps you. 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:22.960 That's your compass. 00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:31.199 You ever go somewhere and all of a sudden you your directions say turn right, but you're like, no, everything my body's telling me to turn left, that's your intuition. 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:32.239 That's your compass. 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.920 And then you do it, and you're like, oh my god, I'm so glad I did that. 00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.360 That's your intuition. 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:38.400 Absolutely. 00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:55.679 So I want to talk about remote viewing because I think it's interesting that our government has actually funded remote viewing research specifically during the cold war, and also programs including with Stargate and all of that. 00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:01.039 Do you think that intelligence agencies know something that the general public don't? 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:05.920 And is remote viewing the same as what a psychic medium does? 00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.039 So, yes, I do think they know more than that, they're sharing. 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:17.440 And then remote viewing for each person can be a little bit different, but it can be on the same realm of what a medium can do. 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.559 But you don't have to be a medium to remote review, though. 00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:21.360 That's the thing. 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.880 You don't have to have any psychic power to do it. 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:39.440 You have to be able to step away from your own self and get out of your own way to be able to take you into a space so you can literally go and remote review someone and see what you want to see. 00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:45.039 And that's why, because a lot of the military, none of them are psychics over there, right? 00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:52.239 And they're been able to remote review for decades, but they use a pattern, okay? 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:58.960 So they use like coordinates and numbers and stuff in order to remote review. 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.440 Me personally, when I do it and other psychics, we don't use any of it. 00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:04.639 I don't, anyways. 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:09.920 I just use my intuition and I open up my third eye and I'm like, take me what I need to see. 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:11.360 This is where I want to go. 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:15.599 This is who I want to remote and show me everything you possibly can. 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:17.760 And that's personally how I do it. 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.320 Does everybody have that superpower to do that? 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:20.800 No. 00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:22.079 Do a lot of people? 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:22.800 They can. 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.639 You can train yourself to do it. 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:25.440 Absolutely. 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.519 The key, trust and get out of your own way. 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.719 Don't try to analyze it, don't try to control it. 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.840 You gotta literally be free to do it. 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:46.880 So are you putting yourself in a meditative state and then sort of having an out-of-body experience if you're remote viewing, or yes, that's what you're doing? 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:47.199 Okay. 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:48.079 Yep. 00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.960 Kind of like um some people call it trance. 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:56.400 Um, but in trancing, you're just letting the information come through and you're it's talking through you. 00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:59.920 But you got to get into like a really like get out of your own way. 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:06.960 That's what I mean by that, is you got to get into a space where you can literally allow yourself to travel, basically. 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:17.199 When I remote review, when I first started, I had to do like full-blown, oh, get a meditative, like really let myself, you know. 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.280 And now I can do it like that. 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:25.679 But I've been I've trained myself to do it like that because a lot of times if I'm in a session, people are like, oh, I really want to. 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:26.880 So I'm like, you know what? 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.559 Let me just go remote review this real quick. 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:38.159 And that's usually to find missing people or missing things, or doing um my um forensic uh mediumship. 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:41.199 I use remote reviewing for that, those types of things. 00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.440 Um, that's pretty much what I use it for. 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.000 So you've done forensic mediumship. 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:47.920 I love forensic mediumship. 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:49.440 This is so interesting to me. 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:56.320 Okay, because I I watched a documentary once about this girl, and I cannot remember her name. 00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:01.599 It was, I I feel bad that I can't remember her name, but it started with an A and her last name started with a P. 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.000 Um she went on this road trip with this guy. 00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.000 They were living out of this van. 00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:09.760 There's a Netflix documentary on her. 00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:11.760 Anna? 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:12.960 I think it's Anna. 00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.280 Anna's but the last name starts with a P. 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:15.840 Yeah. 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:16.079 Yeah. 00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:17.840 And they never found her body. 00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:24.320 Well, they used a remote viewer to basically solve the crime, like where she was, where her body was, and everything. 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:34.559 So when you say you do forensic mediumship, does that mean that you're

helping people figure out what happened to their loved one if they've died in a tragic way? 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:35.280 Yes. 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:44.079 Missing people, missing animals, crimes, murders, suicides, whatever, whatever they need, whatever they are looking for. 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.559 Um, it is a very, I absolutely love doing it. 00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.400 I would love to do that like every day, but I'll tell you, it's it's heavy work. 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:53.199 It's heavy. 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:59.280 It can be very um heartbreaking, you know, but it's so rewarding at the same time. 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:00.159 You know what I mean? 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:10.320 So, like when you can give closure, when you can give, you know, like, hey, look, this is where so and so is, or hey, this is what I found, absolutely is so rewarding. 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:11.840 That's why I love it so much. 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:17.360 Because it really does help give closure and it takes down people, the the bad people. 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:27.199 And sometimes it's to the point where you can even, it's I gotta be you gotta be so careful because like there's such a huge responsibility with it. 00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:37.679 But like there was one particular reading I was doing, and I literally described the person that hurt her son, and that can be dangerous, right? 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:50.960 So, like if that person ever found out that I pretty much was able to sketch him out and she turned it into the authorities, and he found out that some chick from Michigan, you know, because they were in Florida, that can be dangerous, right? 00:58:51.199 --> 00:59:04.000 So I'm very careful with it, but especially when I do any kind of forensic, I will not do it in my business because I don't want to put anybody in danger that works for me or comes in or anything. 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.000 Have I ever had any issue with that? 00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:12.159 No, but my gut keeps telling me to be careful, so I'm just careful with it. 00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.800 I have worked with police, I've had worked with FBI, all of that. 00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:20.239 But yeah, I would love to do more of it, to be honest with you. 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:21.440 That was my next question. 00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.000 I was gonna ask you if you ever worked with law enforcement. 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:25.119 That's really cool. 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:25.840 Mm-hmm. 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:41.519 Yeah, I work more with the private families of where there's cold cases, there's a lot of cold cases that I work with, and that one can be really tricky, especially with the remote reviewing, because a lot of it is like it's so much time has gone by, right? 00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:48.960 So it's like taking you way back into there was one and it was 1991 or 92. 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:54.960 So I had to go way, way back, and that one we we we ended up solving, so that

was exciting. 00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:56.480 That was super, super exciting. 00:59:56.639 --> 01:00:01.920 Yeah, there's a trial so I can't talk about, but yeah, there, yeah, there's like a big it, yeah. 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:12.719 We solved that one, and that was at a cold case for years and years and years, and we were able to narrow it down enough to finally get some closure on it. 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:13.519 Wow. 01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:44.000 Do they allow you to take the witness stand and say I haven't had that, I don't want that, but if I have to to to make everything defend, yeah, but I mean, I'm a psychic, so you know, then everybody likes that, but um yeah, but at the same time, it's like the government's using remote viewers to find out information about other governments and solve crimes and do all of this stuff, so there's obviously something to it, yeah. 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:45.519 There is something definitely to it. 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:46.639 No, I haven't yet. 01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:54.079 Now, this trial I could because this was pretty big one, and they're like in the midst of it right now, but I haven't heard anything. 01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:57.119 So but I would do it if I had to. 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:07.519 But here's the thing I don't remember my readings, so I have to record them, or I have to have somebody write them, or I have to write them as soon as I'm done because I channel it. 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:14.880 So even if they put me on the stand, it's like I have to go back and re-listen, or I have to, you know what I mean? 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.199 Because it's not for me to remember. 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.039 I don't want to remember that stuff. 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.599 I can you imagine all the readings I do? 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.039 And no, I can't. 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:27.199 That would be a lot of energy to carry around with you. 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.239 Yeah, and I do you ever feel like after you do a reading, do you ever feel really heavy? 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:37.119 Like you just need to sage yourself, like you're just like sometimes, yeah. 01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.760 Sometimes it's really heavy or very emotional. 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:49.840 Then yeah, I take a minute, and I always give myself 10 to 15 minutes in between clients to regroup, re-re-cleanse the room, and because I do it one right after another, boom, boom, boom, boom. 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:55.440 I like it like that, but I do try to take time in between because I want to be fresh for the next person. 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:59.599 I just take a minute, go outside, or do whatever I gotta do, say whatever, you know. 01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:03.199 I slop all the time, I'm constantly slopping. 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.320 I'm just sloughing just all the energy off of me. 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:15.760 So, what is the top two or three things that people typically come to you for when they want a reading? 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:16.960 Yeah, definitely. 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:18.719 Oh, you mean like the subject matter? 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:24.800 Yeah, like what what are the top two or three things that people are always wanting to know about when they come from reading? 01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:26.639 Okay, so mediumship for sure. 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:28.880 So connecting with loved ones, that's a big one. 01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:34.400 And then everybody always wants to know about love life, finances, um, and career. 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:35.280 Those are the three. 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:38.480 And then I have a I do a lot of past life actually. 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:44.800 So because the way I do past life, it's basically how is it affecting your life? 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:57.440 So if you have patterns and these patterns are not you keep recurring them, I instantly go back to a uh the try to go as far back as I can to pick up the first pattern where it started. 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:02.480 And then what I try to do is I try to heal it so you can start moving forward. 01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.599 So that's another big one that people come to me for. 01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:14.639 So, what would that look like in a session when somebody comes in and you're establishing this is a pattern from your past lives and this is why this is happening? 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:16.639 What does the healing look like? 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:21.039 So we usually can't do it in that session because they're there for reading. 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:25.119 So then I read both them and I have them come back and they do energy psychology. 01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:37.199 So what we do is we go in and we do this process called tapus acupuncture technique, and we get to the root of the of the issue of why this pattern keeps coming back from whatever lifetime to this lifetime. 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.480 And then we go in and I always say, I'm cutting it. 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.760 So basically, there's neuroplasticities in your brain. 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.239 So there's certain pressure points right here. 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:48.559 So it's like a PTSD loop. 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:52.239 So I go in as if I'm hypnotizing you, but I'm not hypnotizing you. 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:53.519 You're fully awake. 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:59.119 Then so we go into, we hit the same neuroplasticities of hypnotizing you. 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.559 We remove it, and then I check on you. 01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.079 We remove it through 12 to 15 statements. 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.360 And there's certain words that I use, there's certain things that I use. 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:11.199 I use your words, your emotions. 01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:13.039 I talk as if I'm you. 01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.199 You're just there doing your thing, right? 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.239 And then once we remove it, I check on you. 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:19.039 How are you doing?

01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:19.840 Da-da-da-la. 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:31.199 I look at your energy, I can tell instantly if you're resisting, I can tell if things have popped off of you, and then we replace it with how you want to live your life from here on out. 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:32.559 And it works. 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.199 You would not believe how quick it works. 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:40.480 So you could go years and years and years of talk therapy, which I think is I think everybody should do that. 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.719 But you could go years and years and years and never get anywhere. 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.760 You can fix it just like that. 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:56.159 Give me an example of something that somebody came in for that it really reversed the issue that they were having. 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.960 Um, let's talk of constant abuse. 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:03.760 So they are attracting the same type of like narcissistic abusive relationships. 01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:12.800 They are attracting, so they would get rid of one relationship, and then they thought they found, oh no, this guy is totally different, or this girl's totally different. 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.880 Come to find out, it's the same person, just different face, different gene, right? 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:27.280 So, and then they get rid of that relationship, and then another one, and then they would have like a coworker, or they would have a best friend, or one of their parents was a narcissist. 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:36.880 And so I'd be like, Okay, so you're surrounded by narcissists, so you have to learn, you can have them in your life, but you gotta learn how to function and not be shattered. 01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:47.599 So, as a healer, when I look at you, I instantly know if you've been in a narcissistic relationship because your energy is shattered around you, and I'm like, here we go, instantly. 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:49.519 So that would be an example. 01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:59.760 So we would go in, we would figure out what the attraction is to the narcissist, and it's usually from a parent because you always end up with one of your parents, you always marry. 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:03.360 Or you start dating one of your parents that you have not learned from. 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.800 And so we, I'm always like, oh, it's your mother. 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:07.280 Okay. 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:08.159 All right. 01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:12.559 So then we go in and then I figure out the relationship between you and your mother. 01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:21.519 So then I kind of like go backwards until I figure out the root of why you are constantly attracted to narcissistic behavior. 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:22.960 And then we work on that. 01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:24.239 Then we cut it all out. 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:25.440 Then we replace it. 01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:26.800 How do you want to live your life? 01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:29.280 And then I let you go for about two weeks. 01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:30.320 I have you come back. 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.039 I have to check on you because we're like an onion. 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:34.559 We're layers, right? 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:42.159 So we peel some layers and then we have to make sure did one of those layers need to be revisited, or did a new layer pop up? 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:49.760 And if nothing, then we just then they leave or we do a healing, or if there's something, then we boom, we hit it again, or we hit something new. 01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:52.639 And it's amazing how it works. 01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:59.519 That sounds similar to what I experienced because after my divorce, I was going to therapy. 01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:00.880 That was my biggest thing. 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:05.760 Like, why do I keep going into these patterns with these relationships? 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.199 The same type of guy who's abusive and narcissistic. 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.880 And so she actually recommended that I go see a hypnotherapist. 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:17.840 And I tell people that hands down was the cure. 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.480 That was that was what snapped me out of it. 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:27.599 I can explain a little bit about the session of what happened and what he was saying to me, but I can't explain what happened to me. 01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.960 It just snapped me out of whatever pattern I was in. 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:32.000 So it does work. 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:33.119 It does work. 01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:33.679 It does. 01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:42.000 So of everything that we discussed today, what do you think people misunderstand most about the spiritual world? 01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:44.400 That is scary. 01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:47.199 They're so worried that their loved ones aren't good. 01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.719 Like they still think they're sick or they still think that they're mad. 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:57.679 Like say there was animosity between you or one, or they just were always mad or something along those lines, right? 01:07:57.920 --> 01:07:59.119 It's not like that up there. 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:06.400 So once they go through their life review, they have to let all that go so they can move into what we call like heaven, if you will. 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:08.159 So they have to let all that go. 01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:10.639 So it's so peaceful on the other side. 01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:16.159 And they're not that mean, nasty person that they might have been living. 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:26.800 So that is confusing to people because I'll be talking to them and I'm like, okay, when they were alive, they talked like a truck driver, right? 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:28.079 F, F, F, F, F. 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:32.159 I said, but over there, they're not talking to me like that. 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:37.359 But I just want to let you know that if they were sitting in front of

you alive, every other word would have been this. 01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:42.079 Or when they were alive, they, you know, were not good to you. 01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:44.079 They were mean to you, that type of thing. 01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:53.439 And so I feel like people think that when people die and there was an animosity between, they're still mad at them or they hold a lot of guilt for some reason. 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:55.359 And it's not like that anymore. 01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:57.039 That's not like that when they get up there. 01:08:57.279 --> 01:08:58.880 It literally is peaceful. 01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.279 Because then heaven wouldn't be peaceful. 01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:10.079 So if spirits took all the problems with them, it wouldn't be happy, it wouldn't be peaceful, they'd still be sick, they still be, and that's not how it is. 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:11.439 That's what spirits tell me. 01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:12.720 It's that's not how it is. 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:37.279 That's encouraging though, because I think it's interesting that if maybe somebody died suddenly, or maybe somebody wasn't able to make amends with a person that passed away and they have regret or shame or guilt attached to the thought of that person because they were like, Well, I never got to apologize, or we never got to clear the air, or we never got closure. 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:41.600 You're saying that those individuals, it's all let go. 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.279 Like it's once you pass over, none of that comes with you, right? 01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:46.640 None of it comes with you. 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:52.239 No, none of it comes with you because then heaven wouldn't be happy, heaven wouldn't be peaceful. 01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:55.039 It would be no different than if they were still living here. 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:55.920 And they grow. 01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.039 When you pass, it's like you let go of that body. 01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:00.880 So that body's gone. 01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:03.119 And now you're like this essence of energy. 01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:04.640 So you can be all over. 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:08.560 You can you can create your heaven any way you want to create your heaven. 01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:14.399 So if you used to be a fisherman and you want to fish every day of your life in heaven, go for it, go fish every day. 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.760 I mean, they can change their heaven the way that they want it. 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:26.720 If they want to still hang out in your house and watch you make dinner like they used to, or watch a program that you guys used to, they're gonna do that. 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:28.239 So they're free. 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.079 They literally are free. 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.039 And when you connect with them, it's amazing. 01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:41.760 Especially like I was in a reading the other day, and it this poor man, he was so tortured living, he was just so tortured, right? 01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.680 He just had a really hard life, really, really hard life. 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:55.840 And when I told his wife how free and happy and peaceful, that he never knew that before, he never knew what any of that meant because he had such a tough life. 01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:58.079 She just cried of happiness. 01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:03.680 Like, oh, finally, he finally gets to be relieved. 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:19.760 He struggled his whole life, and she said it just made her feel good, knowing that he's finally peaceful, and he was, you know, and when you instantly connect them, you instantly feel this, oh, I can't wait to get up there, you know, like this is so great up there. 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:21.439 Like, we live in shit, right? 01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:21.840 Yeah. 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:36.159 So if someone that's listening is questioning everything that they were taught about spirituality or religion or even the paranormal, what would you want them to take away from this conversation? 01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:49.039 Be open and really ask yourself, not what you're taught, not what you read, not what you, but ask yourself, do you really believe everything that you hear? 01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:58.800 And why wouldn't you want to keep yourself open to the infinite possibilities of so many positive things that are around you? 01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:04.640 It's so much bigger than we are ever been taught or ever been told. 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:10.399 And it's exciting to me to be able to jump into that and explore that. 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:11.920 And wouldn't that be fun? 01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:19.279 Wouldn't that be exciting for them to really open themselves up and know that you're not alone, you're never alone. 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:37.359 And it's not a scary thing, it's a beautiful thing, it's a comforting thing because I feel and the work that I do, I feel like they're almost everybody I see on a daily basis, they're living, they've got family, they've got friends, they they've got a like, but they're so lonely. 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:53.520 And when you open yourself up to a bigger world, to the universe, to whatever you want to call it, whatever makes flowers grow for you, whatever that is for you, for the first time ever, you're gonna walk in your life and not be lonely. 01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:55.039 You're not gonna be lonely. 01:12:55.199 --> 01:13:09.439 I used to be so lonely, and I have so many people around me, but when I connected with my angels and my guides, and I connected to spirit, and I allowed myself to be who I'm authentically was supposed to be, I'm not lonely. 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.760 And it is an amazing feeling. 01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:17.359 I love people to experience that, and spirits are not scary, they're not. 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:31.279 They want you to know that they're there for you, and they want you to know that even though they're this far away and that's as

far as they are, they're that close to you, and that they will always support and love you, even if you didn't have a great relationship. 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.680 That's not how they are on the other side. 01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:36.960 Now, the paranormal, that's a little that can be tricky, right? 01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:44.720 So if there is some bad spirits, which there are, then you just get professional help to get rid of them. 01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.520 The key though is you're the powerful one. 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:51.760 We are the powerful ones, and we don't know that, we don't realize that. 01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.000 But the law, the universal law is they have to leave. 01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:58.079 If you say go, they have to go. 01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.159 You're the one that holds the power. 01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:01.199 You really are. 01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:03.520 You just gotta let yourself know that. 01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:13.600 Well, I don't know about you, but I think conversations like this are exactly why it's important to step outside of our own echo chambers every once in a while. 01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:24.399 Whether you walked away from this conversation feeling validated, skeptical, intrigued, or left with more questions than you started with, I hope you took something away from it. 01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:26.239 And maybe that's the point. 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:28.800 Again, we don't have to agree on everything. 01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:35.119 We don't have to share the same beliefs, experiences, or interpretations of the world to have meaningful conversations. 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:37.760 I'm not asking you to change your mind. 01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:47.600 I'm simply asking you to stay curious, question the narratives you've inherited, and be willing to consider a perspective that might look completely different from your own. 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:53.600 A huge thank you to Kirsten for joining me today and being willing to have this conversation. 01:14:54.159 --> 01:15:03.119 And if you're interested in experiencing a reading with Kirsten for yourself, she offers both in-person and virtual sessions through the Revive Wellness Spa. 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:11.680 You can find her and book a session by visiting www.revive mindbody soul.com. 01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:17.199 But I'll have that link along with the other resources we discussed in the show notes for you. 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:24.880 And before you head out, if you enjoyed this episode, please take a second to like, follow, and subscribe to the podcast. 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:32.800 Share it with someone who loves a good conversation, isn't afraid to question the status quo, or might just need to hear a different perspective. 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:44.000 It genuinely helps the podcast grow, gets these conversations in front of more people, and allows me to continue bringing you guests and topics that challenge the way we think. 01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:50.079 You can also find me on social media where the conversations definitely don't stop when the microphones turn off. 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.479 All of those links are in the show notes. 01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:56.880 And remember, you don't have to accept every narrative you're handed. 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:03.680 You're allowed to question it, challenge it, and decide for yourself what you believe. 01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:13.119 Until next time, stay curious, keep asking questions, think for yourself and never stop searching for the truth. 01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:20.399 The answers may not always be comfortable, but the pursuit of truth is always worth it. 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:22.399 Thank you for listening. 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.840 Before we close out, I just want to share a quick reminder. 01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:33.760 The stories told on this podcast are personal experiences and perspectives. 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:42.319 They're shared to create awareness and connection, not as medical, legal, or mental health advice. 01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:48.479 Some of the conversations here focus on abuse, trauma, and other heavy topics. 01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.920 So please take care of yourself while listening. 01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:57.279 It's always okay to pause, skip an episode, or step away if you need to. 01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:07.840 And if anything we talked about brings something up to you, we encourage you to reach out to a trusted professional or support resource. 01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:10.800 You don't have to carry any of this alone. 01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:12.720 Thank you for listening.