บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode 24 Adam Likes Indiana Jones

00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:31.120 But anyways. 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:34.959 Well, yeah, I mean that that does uh that does have some merits with it. 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.839 But you know, with Indiana Jones, you you you kind of look at things. 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:46.160 I mean, you you have you have magic, um, you have interdimensional aliens, you have time travel. 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:53.600 I I think you know it it makes a pretty solid case for um you know Indiana Jones. 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:57.920 You know, it first and foremost, it is it's an action series. 00:05:58.240 --> 00:05:59.759 It's an action franchise. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:16.720 But you know, you take a look at all the different elements that are incorporated in it, and this is because, you know, just recently uh I started going back and I watched um Raiders of the Lost Dark and then Temple of Doom, and then I just watched um Last Crusade yesterday. 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:27.600 Depending on how well how far you want to go down, technically you gotta watch Temple of Doom first, because Temple of Doom is takes place before Raiders of the Lost Ark. 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.399 Even though the movie was made after. 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:48.399 If you it all goes like at the very beginning of the movies, they're like, um oh, what was the first like you know, South America 1936 is beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark, but then Temple of Doom is Shanghai 1934. 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:53.920 Temple of Doom is actually a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark. 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:55.040 Interesting. 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:55.360 Yeah. 00:06:55.519 --> 00:07:00.319 I'll be honest with you, um, I have no idea how much Indiana Jones I've seen. 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:04.399 I know I have seen quite a bit of the first three movies. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:11.519 I know I've seen I mean I um Which I what's the what's the one with the Nazis at the faces melted? 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:13.519 Oh, that is that's Raiders of the Lost Ark. 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.120 I know I've seen most of that one. 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:15.680 Yes. 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:25.199 And I know I've seen other than the newest one, Dial of Destiny, I've seen clips from all of them or most of all of them. 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:29.120 But you know, it whenever you go down, I mean there's there's five movies. 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:36.639 Of course, you know, because there was such a long hiatus, um Last Crusade came out in '89. 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:46.160 And then we didn't have another Indiana Jones for, you know, twenty some years, uh, until they decided to do it again. 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.480 And I mean, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, it did have some good merits. 00:07:50.560 --> 00:08:00.560 It was an Indiana Jones film, but I it you know, I think a lot of fans would probably agree with me that if you had to rank the five of them, that one's probably the bottom. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:07.279 And then depending on how you look at Dial of Destiny, um, you know, that's a little bit different. 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:12.160 I'm kind of conflicted about Dial of Destiny uh as an Indiana Jones film. 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:32.960 It's it's a it's almost like it's two films, because if you if you watch the movie the whole way through, the first, like, I think it's like 15-20 minutes is whenever you have Harrison Ford actually, you know, during World War II, he's an OSS agent uh working with the Americans and the British government. 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:44.639 And that whole entire sequence on the train and it's the very end of the war, is this a classic Indiana Jones going back to the original three. 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:54.960 And then Dial of Destiny and then the rest of it kind of takes a different turn to where you have a little bit more of a modern take on what Indiana Jones is. 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.240 It's all one movie, but it almost seems like two movies to me. 00:08:58.559 --> 00:08:58.879 Okay. 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.480 Even though everything, of course, ties together. 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.919 So I'm sorry, I just because I a genuine question. 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:14.480 Because I'm looking at um, just like I I just typed in Indiana Jones on Google and the AI overview popped up. 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:19.519 Is every is every movie, is the bad guy Nazis? 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:20.080 No. 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:20.480 No? 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:26.159 I was one here it says Soviet plot, but in every in the description for the other. 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:28.559 No, I mean you have the Nazis. 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:32.320 You have the Nazis prominent in three of the movies. 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:43.279 They are the main antagonist, as well as Balloch, who's the French archaeologist who's like Indies nemesis and um Raiders of the Lost Ark. 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:47.600 Um, because, you know, that's he's there. 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:57.759 So that yeah, the Nazis are there in that one, and then Last Crusade, again, with Finding the Holy Grail, the Nazis again are the main antagonist. 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:11.360 And then it's kind of interesting because Dial Destiny, the Nazis are the antagonist for the first 20 minutes, and then you have a Nazi. 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.559 I wouldn't say he's he's not really an archaeologist. 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:26.559 I can't exactly describe his character, but you know, he's someone who definitely drank the Kool-Aid, and he wants to be able to bring, you know, the Third Reich back in some form. 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:33.360 So it's really only one Nazi with his henchmen the the entire rest of the movie. 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:42.879 Yeah, you could say that, yeah, the Nazis are the bad guys in the uh Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, the antagonists are, you know, the Soviets. 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.879 Because the movie the movie takes place in the 1950s. 00:10:47.120 -->

00:10:51.600 So in the 1950s, who were the antagonists at everything that the Americans did? 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.200 It was the Soviet Union. 00:10:53.440 --> 00:11:08.240 I thought that kind of played in real well because, you know, after a certain point, there's only many times that Indiana Jones can uh you know foil the Nazis' plan to take over the world, so let's let's have someone else give it a go. 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:19.360 Uh then in Temple of Doom, which I feel is a it's it's a very good movie um with the original three. 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:20.960 Um kind of hard to say. 00:11:21.039 --> 00:12:00.159 I mean, yeah, the original trilogy of Indiana Jones is um the antagonist takes place in India, and it's with Kali, who I think is kind of the god of death, and then um, you know, there's a whole cult that follows Kali, and they pull people's beating hearts out of their chests, they put them in pits of lava, they steal children to mine for the Sharkara stones, which are supposedly meant to give whoever has them like immense power to take over the world and all kinds of stuff like that. 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:09.519 I mean, essentially everything comes down to there's always one person in every Indiana Jones movie that wants to take over the world in some way, shape, or form. 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:21.200 And then Indiana Jones just kind of gets involved, becomes a fly in the ointment, and at the end saves, you know, saves humanity from whatever they want to do. 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.120 I mean, that's what it comes down to. 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:30.480 Now, again, uh, you know, if you you know, getting into things, um, there's one episode of Big Bang Theory. 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:32.080 I don't know if you've ever watched Big Bang. 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:33.360 Oh, I've watched a lot of it. 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:33.759 Okay. 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:39.679 So there's the one episode, I think it's it's in one of the middle to later seasons, I think season six or seven. 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:40.799 I can't I can't. 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:54.639 Is it is it the one where they talk about how uh whichever movie it uh is it where they're like if Indiana Jones wasn't there, that the movie would have played out exactly the same with Dead Nazis. 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:55.120 Okay. 00:12:55.279 --> 00:13:00.399 Yeah, that was they were making fun of um Raiders of the Lost Ark. 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:05.600 That and you know, it's kind of annoying because I watched that movie. 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:16.559 I I'm sorry, I watched that episode, and then I did exactly what the characters in Big Bang Theory did for probably like four days afterwards, like, well, you know, if Indiana Jones had a done Oh no, never mind. 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:30.399 But yeah, if the whole point of Raiders of Lost Art is the Nazis are want to find the Ark of the Covenant so that they can unleash it and destroy any army that opposes them. 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.759 Hitler is this is what Hitler wants. 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.399 He's into the occult, which is true in real life. 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:45.919 He was very much into all these ancient Aryan artifacts and everything that would give him and his the Nazis some kind of a boost. 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:54.799 But yeah, if they would have found the Ark, taken it to the island, opened it up, it would have ended the exact same way. 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:59.759 Now, the only thing I could think of is okay, so who would have found the Ark next? 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:07.279 Because after after everyone in the island is vaporized by the Ark, who would have found it and what would they have done with it? 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:16.720 Because it would have just been sitting on this stone bench on this island in the Mediterranean for God knows how long, because the Nazis had a submarine base there. 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.679 So you think, okay, so they would have won and like, okay, so what happened? 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:23.440 You know, these guys never called back the last time that we we rang them up. 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:26.559 So would they have would that have continued things? 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:34.159 Now, obviously the movie ends, and I think Family Guy makes fun of it um quite a bit. 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:45.759 Is the arc, you know, the the arc, it it's constantly taken and put into a room for storage and forgotten about for a couple thousand years. 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:57.679 Um though I do like in each in in most of the Indiana Jones movies, like I, you know, just re-watching Last Crusade, they mention the Ark. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:02.080 It's on it's inscribed in a tomb under the city of Venice. 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:08.639 And then in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, they just so happen to find themselves in the same warehouse that the U.S. 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:25.120 Army stored the Ark in, and whenever they're when they're doing the chase in the beginning of the movie, um the Russians are after Indy, run into a whole bunch of boxes, and in the corner of one of the boxes that gets broken open, you see the ark. 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:34.879 And that's the last time, you know, it's so it it's it's fun that the the writers constantly are going back to you know the the the arc itself and everything. 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:35.360 Okay. 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.080 Um I'm not sure if it's mentioned in Dial of Destiny. 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:47.840 Um it might be in some obscure way, because if one thing that I've learned with anything that George Lucas does or Steven Spielberg is they like their Easter eggs in movies. 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.039 Uh so I'm sure there might have been something. 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:55.600 You know, when you were talking about um craps. 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:56.960 I apologize I apologize. 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:07.519 I what uh the one with the the cov the the cov the covenant the

one the one where Indiana Jones, if he wasn't there, yeah, Raiders Raiders have lost the Raiders. 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:14.320 I think I think the problem with that is that you have Harrison Ford, so you just gotta have him, and you gotta have him. 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.639 If you get Harrison Ford, you use Harrison Ford. 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:17.120 Yeah. 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:24.159 Um so so when you were talking about uh Temple of Doom is the one with like the heart ripping. 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:24.799 Yes. 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:42.720 So you'd be surprised, very rarely can I not um connect everything to Star Wars or Star Trek, but I recently realized you know when you were talking right now, I just thought it was worth mentioning that so the kid, because isn't that the one where they had the little boys with them? 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:43.919 Yeah, in Temple of Doom. 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:48.080 He grow when he he is in Loki. 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:49.200 Yes. 00:16:49.600 --> 00:17:05.279 And then I don't know the character's name, but there's the one like just like random like desk guy who um like in the first season he opens the drawer and he's just got it's just full of like infinity stones that he's using as paperweights. 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:07.359 I don't know if you know who I'm talking about. 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.279 I I haven't actually watched Loki. 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:10.880 Oh well I I apologize. 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:17.200 Well, either way, then this doesn't matter as much, but that guy is the voice of uh Rutherford on Star Trek. 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:17.759 Oh, Loki. 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.480 Just because we literally just talked about it, and he is one of my favorite characters on that show. 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:39.039 But, anyways, um you know you know you're talking about Indiana Jones, and like I'm just trying to think about all the things I recognize him from because I have not like I said, I I'm no I'm not an expert, I don't know a lot of this stuff, but there was a you ever see the robot chicken sketch? 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.240 So they redid the end of Lost Dark. 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:51.839 You know, the thing opens, all the all the Nazis melt, and Indiana Jones sitting there with the girl tied to the post. 00:17:52.400 --> 00:18:04.480 And you know, you know, close your eyes, keep your eyes closed, and the zon the the ghosts show up and start like antagonizing them, like, oh we're not ghosts, open your eyes, we're not gonna open our eyes. 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:18.720 Finally the ghosts are like, you know what, screw this, and they leave, and then they're just those they're sitting there with their eyes closed, they're just they're just like, We know you're still there, so we're just we're just gonna keep our eyes closed. 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.960 And I don't uh just a stupid thing. 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:29.039 Well, and I think that kind of shows, you know, whenever your movies are that good and popular, that everyone else is gonna try to make fun of them. 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:29.680 Oh yeah. 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:38.240 You know, I I know Family Guy did it, I know Robot Chicken did it, uh, I mean, there's other ones in Star Wars. 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:40.160 I do have a Star Wars connection. 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:53.440 Well, there there's I mean there's overlapping because they were, you know, even though Indiana Jones was after Star Wars and everything, whenever it came out, I mean you still had George Lucas involved in a lot of the same riding team and everything. 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:59.359 But it was in Oh, it was in uh Raiders of the Lost Ark. 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:09.599 In the Egyptian Temple where the Ark is the well of souls, one of the two of the hieroglyphs was R2D2 and 3C3PO. 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:10.319 Oh, okay. 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:25.200 So they that was like one of the Easter eggs that they had in, and I think there was something in one of the Star Wars, I forget series or movies, but there was something from Indiana Jones. 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:46.480 I I'm completely blanking at this point on it, but yeah, there's there's definitely a lot of cross-references that they they like to hide things in the movies, which I think is really cool because you you watch the movie just to watch the movie, and then you go back and you like do a deep, like forensic watch of it to see, okay, what did they include from what um in it. 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:52.240 And usually, or you could just get online and Google it and YouTube because someone's already come up with everything on it. 00:19:52.480 --> 00:20:01.200 Um I did I did see, I do know of two I mean they're they're not canon, but who cares about canon? 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:07.039 Um two Star Wars books, well comic books that reference Indiana Jones. 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.039 The first one was just a like a silly, silly thing. 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:24.880 It was um there was a there was a series called Star Wars Infinities, and basically it was the original trilogy, except something was different in each one. 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:26.079 So it gets derailed. 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:28.480 Like one, the Death Star doesn't blow up. 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:34.319 One, Luke dies before he goes to Endorb, or uh uh Dagobah, etc. 00:20:35.039 --> 00:21:03.279 But there there was a there is a shot that um it must have came out around the same time as Indiana Jones, because like there's a scene with uh uh uh Han is on Dagobah with Luke and they're just chatting about whatever Star Wars stuff, and a snake comes at Han Solo, and he just snatches it, and he's like, Stupid snake, I ain't afraid of snakes, because he's not because Han Solo is not Indiana Jones. 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:03.839 No, he isn't. 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:10.000 Even though they are very kind of similar, um, but I don't know enough. 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:24.559 But then also,

um, there was actually, I don't know if it was like a what if, but there was another story where Han Solo crashed the Millennium Falcon on Earth. 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:32.480 Like he like it was just an unknown planet, crashes, turns out to be Earth, galaxy, or you know, long time ago. 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.519 And Indiana Jones finds the Millennium Falcon. 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:37.359 I mean, it's just dismantled, fallen apart. 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:37.599 Right. 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:43.519 Finds Han Solo's decomposed body and is like, oh, I betcha this is a story. 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:49.359 And then it turns out that Chewbacca, who survived the crash, becomes Seswatch. 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:50.559 Okay, yeah. 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:51.599 Yeah, I just I don't know. 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:52.799 I thought it was interesting. 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:54.319 It's an interesting. 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:59.359 Um, another another thing, um I didn't realize that there. 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:05.599 That there is like real life connections with the crystal skulls. 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:07.359 Did you know about this? 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:10.799 Um, not ringing a bell. 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:18.079 Uh I'm not super familiar with the history, but apparently, like that though that that is a thing. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:28.640 Apparently, over the years, I'm not sure how many, people have found actual like crystal skulls throughout the the world. 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:35.759 And I only know about this because Dan Aykroyd has his own crystal skull vodka. 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:36.240 Okay. 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:52.880 And he talks about it in like the like the advertisement for it that like he based the skull bottle off of the crystal skulls that were they I guess I don't know how many they've uncovered, but they've shown up all over the world. 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:54.319 Just just I don't know. 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.480 I I didn't know if you knew about that or had anything to do with it. 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:56.960 No, I didn't. 00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:58.480 You're the history guy. 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.759 No, I didn't which which is kind of funny you brought that up. 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:05.519 Did you know that Dan Aykroyd actually had a cameo in an Indiana Jones movie? 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:06.160 I did not. 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:07.680 He did, Temple of Doom. 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:08.160 Okay. 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:12.000 He was on screen, I think, for like maybe 20-30 seconds. 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:12.720 Nice. 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:13.279 Yes. 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.839 But yes, Dan Aykroyd did have a uh a cameo in Temple of Doom. 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:18.480 Oh, okay. 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:20.799 I I was hoping you were gonna say Crystal Stone. 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:21.440 No, no. 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:27.119 I was hoping you were you were like, oh yeah, he was just sitting there just doing shots of Aja. 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:28.000 No, no, no. 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:38.559 Now, I will miss I I it's been a very long time and I never quite finished it, but there it was a TV series for Indiana Jones. 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.640 It was called The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:59.119 Edutainment, you got um, and that was because it was taking place when Indiana Jones was a teenager, which we see a little bit of that, because one of the reason I there's a lot of reasons why um Indiana Jones and Last Crusade is my favorite favorite Indiana Jones movie. 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.200 And I'm gonna kind of go into that real quick. 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:15.279 Is it opens up whenever Indiana Jones is a teenager and he's a Boy Scout, and they do such a great job of scouting like early on, like this is 1912, is when it takes place. 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:21.119 So scouting just you know, it's only you know two years old at that point. 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:25.680 And the uniforms and everything and how the troop works. 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.880 I mean, it's it's a real quick glimpse, and the reason they had that is because Steven Spielberg is an Eagle Scout. 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:45.039 He's stepped away from the organization in more recent years, but you know, he created the movie Making Merit Badge and was very much so it made sense that you know his involvement in it would have translated to scouting being in that movie. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.359 So it's one thing that I really liked. 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:49.839 Movie Making Merit Badge? 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:50.640 Yes. 00:24:51.119 --> 00:25:01.440 I sorry, I I know very I I was sorry, I was a uh Cub Scout, and I never got like what is it the Weebolo badge, so I never got to move on. 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:06.400 And so sorry, I I know that they have a million badges, but yeah, it's like 120 something. 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.039 They make one for everything, yeah, just about. 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:10.079 Alright, fair enough. 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:26.079 Yeah, but yeah, no, it's um, and then the chemistry between Sean Connery and Harrison Ford in that movie, because you know, Sean Connery plays Henry Jones, Indy's father. 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:32.720 Um and the thing is they're only I think they're less than a decade apart in age. 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:41.119 So for Sean Connery to be playing Harrison Ford's father um is kind of interesting, but it just it works fantastically. 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:48.079 Um the dry wit and humor that he brings, um, the on-screen kind of back and forth. 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:56.319 It's it's it I think it's one of the best father and son on-screen relationships. 00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.160 Because it's what you would think. 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:18.559 Like, okay, like there's there's obviously, even though there's a disconnect with them, Indiana Jones loves and respects his father, and Henry Jones, Sean

Connery, he loves Indiana Jones because he's his son, and he's always like, I've always tried to raise you how I felt was right, kind of deal. 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:29.839 And that's you know, that's kind of like a subplot in the movie, is that you know, they're going on this adventure together, and they're kind of closing in old wounds and getting to know each other again. 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:56.400 And at the end, they're you know, they're they're the the bat the battering bantering between them is more just like it's good bantering rather than at the beginning of the movie whenever Indiana Jones is kind of like unloading, like, well, you know, you you sat and researched the lost grail, you know, the the lost grail all my childhood. 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:06.640 You never played ball with me, you never went on scouting trips with me, you never did any of this, and he's like, Well, I kind of let you do whatever the heck you wanted, and you're getting mad at me for this. 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.240 Um so But parent parents always screw up. 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:11.119 Yeah. 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:37.759 But yeah, I think you know, if you go through you, and I'm gonna go through, yeah, Raiders of the Lost Ark, you have um the Ark of the Covenant, who ties into religion and Old Testament and all that stuff, as as you know, a power that different civilizations used on each other before the Egyptians took it out of the uh Temple of King Solomon and took it back to Egypt. 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:49.680 And then, you know, because it's such a great power, you know, it basically hid itself for thousands of years before the Nazis and Indiana Jones go and find it, and then it gets lost again. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:28:08.240 Temple of Doom is very it's again it has a religious tie-in with um and I don't think it's direct with I mean it's definitely part of the Hindi uh religion uh and culture and everything in India, um, but and and Buddhism and everything. 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:30.000 Well, maybe not so much that, but um, but you know, how the cult was forming that okay, we have to get these stones to take over the world, and you know, we're going to allow the god of death to, I don't know, just he's the power behind all this stuff. 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:42.240 Then you got Last Crusade, where Hitler is obsessed with finding the Holy Grail, as well as Walter Donovan, who is an American but also a closeted Nazi and everything. 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.759 Um, he wants it for immortality. 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:54.000 Now, kind of a plot point in this is they expect um, okay, so if you drink from the Holy Grail, you become immortal. 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:54.799 You can't die. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:55.920 You live forever. 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:05.119 But if the grail or you leave where the grail is, then it kind of voids everything. 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.960 Like you still might live longer, but you're not immortal anymore. 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:20.240 So it's kind of like, okay, so they're at the very beginning of the movie, like, okay, so if the Nazis get a hold of the grail and live forever, but it's like, how are they going to live forever whenever they can't stay in the temple? 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:25.680 Oh, so it has to stay, because that was going to be my next question was can you take can you take the grail somewhere else? 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:35.519 Pick because I'm because I'm just saying, like, if you if you know it's like I could take the grail and then indulge in Pizza Hut, I'd be fine spending the rest of my life there. 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:37.039 Well, or Dave and Buster's. 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:37.839 That is true. 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:54.319 I mean, you could do that, um, but no, the grail has to stay where it is, where the the three knights, the three brothers who have been guarding it, well, guarded it for a while, two of them left, and then one stayed to guard it for the rest of his life until someone came and defeated him. 00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:59.119 Crystal Skull uh is all about knowledge. 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:15.359 Uh, because the this race of alien interdimensional aliens, I make sure that I emphasize that because that was all about like they're not from they're not aliens from another world, they're aliens from another dimension in Indiana Jones. 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:29.039 Um, but they have been accumulating all this knowledge for many, many lifetimes, and the whole point is the antagonist, I forget her name, um, but you know, she's the main Soviet character. 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.119 She's Joseph Stalin sent her to get all this stuff. 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:47.519 Um, to for her to be accumulating take learn to take all this knowledge and learn it herself to become like this immensely like powerful being who knows everything, which it overloads and kills her in the end. 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:47.839 Okay. 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:48.400 Okay. 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:56.799 And then Dial of Destiny is it's a little bit different because you have the time travel element, and of course, they keep you guessing through the entire movie. 00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:18.880 There's a lot of misdirection and everything until they they show up at this battle between it's an ancient, it's it takes place in ancient Greek, uh, between two of the city-states that are fighting one another, and then all of a sudden, you know, you have a um uh aircraft with the all these you know former Nazis in it show up. 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:34.880 And their whole thing is they were gonna the whole point of the movie was to use the dial to go back to sometime in the 1930s and find a way for the Nazis not to lose World War II. 00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:42.799 And they end up overshooting by a couple thousand years, um, and go back to ancient Greece and everything. 00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.240 Um so that's kind of interesting. 00:31:46.480 --> 00:32:01.599 You have a lot of

uh, you know, with the characters, like I thought Henry Jones was a great character in um Last Crusade, Salah, who's in Raiders of the Lost Ark, Last Crusade, and is in a little bit of Dial of Destiny. 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:11.200 You have Marion, who's Indy's love interest from Raiders, uh, comes back in Crystal Skull, and she has a very small part in Dial of Destiny. 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:23.759 Um, I do like, well, not like I'm that's it sounds kind of cruel of me, but um, you know, you have Sean LeBeef plays in um Kingdom the Crystal Skull, completely annoying character. 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.599 He kind of plays like a 1950s American greaser. 00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.960 Think of like the Fawns, but not as cool. 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:38.079 Was that but anyway, it well, you're thinking about they they kill him off in Dial Destiny because they just didn't want to bring him back. 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.119 So sorry, because I was thinking I've been thinking about actually Shia LaBeouf since we talked about this. 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:51.359 Sorry, when you mentioned the the movie, because uh because this was like when Transformers was at its peak, right? 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:53.039 This is right around. 00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.400 2008 is when Crystal Skull came out. 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:56.960 Okay. 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:03.599 So it was post-Transformers, and I think this was one of the last things he did before he completely went off the rails. 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:13.839 Well that that's what I was gonna say was that I because I know he had a like a breakdown because that happens to a lot of child actors. 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:21.359 But um that's sorry, that's uh that's what I was I was because we because when you're when you're like, oh, they killed him off, probably off-screen, I imagine. 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:22.000 Yeah, they did. 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.200 Yeah, because yeah, didn't want to touch that with a 30. 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:37.920 Yeah, yeah, no, because uh they kind of at the end of the at the end of uh Crystal Skull, they kind of set it up where maybe if they did another movie, he would take more of a lead role as Indiana Jones Jones's son. 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:38.559 Okay. 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:45.440 But because everything that happened off screen, they're like, oh yeah, he he died in Vietnam. 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:46.960 Okay, alright. 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:48.960 That's all that's always great. 00:33:49.200 --> 00:34:01.599 Yeah, because I mean the last movie, because you you have the um the first movie takes place in, I think, 35, 30, 34 or 35, um, and then the last movie takes place in 1969. 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:34.159 So, you know, we have Indiana Jones for 34 years of his life, and at that point he he kicks the Nazis' butt twice, um, he completely up-ends an ancient religion in India, is able to stop the Soviet Union from attaining ultimate knowledge, and yeah, he gets to go back

and see an ancient battle of in Greece while at the same time screwing up the plans for the Nazis to go back and essentially, hey, here's all this technology and we know what's gonna happen. 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:40.880 So, hey, Adolf, you might not want to do X, Y, and Z, and by the way, here's a nuclear weapon to help you too. 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:42.960 Um, kind of deal. 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:47.440 So, but yeah, everything goes awry, and because of you know, stuff. 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:58.559 I think the um they they always they just wanted to do the original three Indiana Jones movies, and then they kind of branched out um Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was kind of hit or miss. 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.519 I mean the reviews of it were so so. 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.119 Um I think it's like a lot of things, you either liked it or hated it. 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.039 This is the TV show you're talking about? 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.920 This is a TV show, and that was that was in the 90s. 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:11.679 And that and that's and that's the problem. 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:29.599 You have that whenever you try to do a series on everything, because you're not you're not gonna get the actors, so it's gotta be either new characters or you know, younger actors, and and then like you know, if it's aimed towards kids, it's also gotta be kind of educational. 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:30.960 And that's the problem, you know. 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.679 That's well, Indiana Jones is educational because it's not history, it's about archaeology. 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:42.400 Um, I think a lot of it is whenever I watched Indiana Jones as a kid, I really sparked my interest in history. 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.880 So I think a lot of that goes along with that. 00:35:45.119 --> 00:36:10.079 Um then the two newer movies, um, you know, I think they tried to stay as um, you know, they tried to keep Indiana Jones as Indiana Jones as much as they could, but you still had to play to a new audience, and you had to kind of wait, you know, kind of figure, okay, so you can't you can't really do the same thing, but you can't really do something too different. 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.280 Um you know, it's kind of my view on it. 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:22.000 And you know, Crystal Skull was it was a miss, but uh Dial Destiny, you know, would I rank it up there with the first three? 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.079 Probably not, but close. 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:38.079 You know, I could talk about this a little bit longer, but uh I you know I think I I kind of hit the highlights of what I wanted to um with how you know with the franchise and it's it's this is it's a little bit different than we've talked about. 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.920 Yeah, right in in the past. 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:41.119 No, no, I like it. 00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:51.360 And you know, like we said at the beginning, you know, I've kind you we you originally when we started this, we talked about like originally, I know we first talked about like just doing Star Wars. 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.519 Then we were like, how about Star Wars and Star Trek? 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.519 Then how about just science fantasy? 00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.559 But at this point, um like I said, just do anything. 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:05.599 Open like while you were talking, I actually I thought of what might be a fun idea for an episode or a couple episodes. 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.519 Sean Connery movies. 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:07.920 Ooh. 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.400 Because when you when you said Sean Connery, the first thing I thought of was League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:16.159 Ooh, yes, it's a good movie. 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:16.960 Good movie. 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.400 Um which I know was not received well. 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.679 It's kind of become a cult classic, I think. 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:33.280 Yeah, it's kind of one of those movies that you know it it's aged very well, and I I it was I think it was Sean Connery's last uh the last time he appeared on screen. 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:33.920 Oh really? 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.760 Okay I think I think it was his last movie. 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:42.400 Because I I saw his I I recently learned that apparently like that movie, and we can another time. 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:42.719 Yeah. 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:50.559 But apparently he signed on to that movie blindly because he was just trying to get in on a franchise because apparently he missed. 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:56.400 Like apparently, I uh so like he was offered the role of Morpheus in The Matrix. 00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.559 He was like, no one's gonna wanna no, this I don't get it. 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.480 Then it was for a while a big hit. 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:02.800 Yeah. 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:08.639 I want to say also I heard he was offered Gandalf in Lord of the Rings, maybe, or something else like that. 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:16.079 He was like, he was like, no, and then so so when they did Leave Extraordinary Gentleman, he was like, This is my franchise, and then they did one. 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.320 He kind of was he was James Bond for six films. 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:21.360 Oh, that's true. 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:38.800 Yeah, I mean he he did kind of have a franchise for a while because he had um he was in five five Bond movies, and then they tried George Lazenby, who completely flamed out after the movie was made, and then they brought Sean Connery back for another one. 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:48.159 And then there was the weird Bond um Never Say No or Never Say Never, it's something like that. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:39:04.079 But it was it's a Bond movie, but it's not considered part of the franchise because of some legal dispute with the script, and some a guy was able to make a Bond movie because of some legal dispute at one point. 00:39:04.239

--> 00:39:29.599 But yeah, because also that family, um sorry to get off track, but also because I'm pretty sure it was the Bond franchise that like the family that created them, or like the guy the the family of the creator has such a tight grip on it that like that's why like there's so few because or not because they they are very picky about who gets to do what and how they use the character. 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:30.239 Yes. 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:36.320 Um yeah, because you you because you Ian Fro Ian Fleming wrote the the Bond books. 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:58.719 Um but then it was uh I forget his for Broccoli was the one that's the family that took you know, made the movies, they have very tight grip on anything that comes out with Bond, from who plays Bond to what the storyline is and everything. 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:03.199 That's why and I think that's why we haven't seen a Bond movie in years. 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:14.000 Because I know also I thought that I thought that like Amazon was trying to buy it or buy the rights to it from them, but I don't I don't know. 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.000 Sorry, that was just kinda offhand. 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:17.679 But yeah, I or I don't know. 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:19.679 Uh just just a thought I had. 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:27.360 Because that was uh, you know, two three things I wanted to talk about shortly before we call it. 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:32.320 Anybody who's listening, please send in ideas. 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.480 I mean, we're open to just about anything. 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:46.079 Um I know that um my buddy Chris sent in a request for a superhero episode. 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:57.760 Um I think I'd like to find like a couple of good map pairings and just do one episode because I don't, you know, rather than trying to like make one fight a whole thing. 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:04.719 Um I know my dad, when he did a couple episodes with me, he had some ideas for an episode. 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:27.199 But yeah, I just I don't you know, I I I really want I really I I really I I I don't know if it's just if I'm doing a bad job at promoting or if it's what we're putting out, or just I I I I I would love any input. 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:33.760 Like anybody who's listening, I mean if you're if you fell off and you're not listening now, but just like like like like what is it? 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:44.400 Like like Haley last night informed me that apparently I need to adjust the audio because the intro and outro apparently someone shouting and is startling. 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.400 Um I don't know. 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:56.480 I just I I I I I would love genuinely anybody, you know, anything, and just have something, something constructive in it. 00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:13.119 You you call me, you know, call me all the names you want, you know, oh he's an idiot, fake fan, doesn't know Star Wars, doesn't know this, but also if you could if you could extend the music or if you could anything. 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:20.639 Well wait well I think what Tom is just trying to say is we we really are open to any kind of feedback that any of our listeners have. 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:44.480 And I think the other thing that I would ask is whatever um streaming service or platform that you listened on, make sure you hit that like button or whatever is comparable to it, just so that you can, you know, it helps our algorithm uh to get us out there and share us on any kind of social media that you have just to get the podcast out there a little bit more. 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:55.760 Um and yeah, like I said, you know, like Tom and I, we were definitely open to feedback, and I really hope that uh you will reach out to us with some um with any suggestions that you have. 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.639 So at this point, Tom, why don't you go ahead and take us out? 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