บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The Oldest Algorithm - A Lantern at the Rail

with horns standing near the altar, holding a 71 00:05:26.620 --> 00:05:30.459 magic lantern. Through it, the figure showed each of them 72 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:37.110 something different. Their favorite games, books, hometowns, families, friends, and 73 00:05:37.269 --> 00:05:41.589 even sinful scenes. Don Bosco said the device distracted them 74 00:05:41.670 --> 00:05:43.810 so much that it kept them away from the sacraments, 75 00:05:44.089 --> 00:05:47.600 especially communion. The Dream is recorded in Volume 8 of 76 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:52.019 Father G.B. Lemoyne's Biographical Memoirs of St. John Bosco, and 77 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.579 anyone can read it for themselves. And, of course, that's 78 00:05:54.610 --> 00:05:56.730 going to be linked down below. As you would expect, 79 00:05:56.790 --> 00:05:59.410 all the sources are always going to be linked. in 80 00:05:59.430 --> 00:06:01.389 the description box below. If you want to follow up 81 00:06:01.449 --> 00:06:03.920 on me and kind of check on these ideas, then you're, 82 00:06:04.069 --> 00:06:06.160 you're in the right place. That's exactly the point of 83 00:06:06.220 --> 00:06:09.259 doing this. And, uh, talking about these ideas together is 84 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.439 to share where the, this stuff came from. And, uh, yeah, 85 00:06:12.540 --> 00:06:14.600 that's what's going on today. That's where we start. And I'll, 86 00:06:14.740 --> 00:06:16.540 let me, let me dig up the full poem for 87 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.399 you here. And we'll read the thing in its entirety, 88 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:22.079 because that's the weird part is, uh, that was the brief, 89 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:24.000 but actually I'll read it when we come back after 90 00:06:24.050 --> 00:06:25.089 the break, because we're going to take a break in 91 00:06:25.110 --> 00:06:27.480 just a second here, but it's sorry for starting late, uh, 92 00:06:27.850 --> 00:06:31.689 windows update. Hopefully everything's working. Test one, two. Can you 93 00:06:31.730 --> 00:06:35.629 guys hear me out there? Yes, I hope. I mean, 94 00:06:36.050 --> 00:06:39.029 everybody hasn't left, so I hope you're hearing me. But yeah, 95 00:06:39.069 --> 00:06:41.370 so I had to go through and, you know, juggle 96 00:06:41.410 --> 00:06:44.240 all the stupid things that break when a Windows update happens. 97 00:06:44.269 --> 00:06:46.240 But I'll leave it there. I'll leave it on the 98 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.639 spooky images of this entity. But so it got me 99 00:06:49.660 --> 00:06:51.839 thinking a lot of directions. Fine on Discord. Thank you 100 00:06:51.860 --> 00:06:53.339 for that. It got me thinking in a lot of 101 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.379 directions and specifically the idea of contact through dreams and 102 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.120 not just, you know, we've talked about tandem dreaming in 103 00:07:00.139 --> 00:07:02.889 the past. Can you actually meet somebody else from the 104 00:07:03.149 --> 00:07:07.730 human world in your dreams somehow in some capacity or elsewise? 105 00:07:07.750 --> 00:07:11.379 Can you can you meet entities in your dreams that 106 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:14.439 are not human at all? Maybe we call them dream 107 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.519 natives or whatever these mythologies kind of look like or 108 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.279 feel like. Because, of course, the feeling aspect of this 109 00:07:21.339 --> 00:07:23.839 comes in heavy when you talk about these ideas. And 110 00:07:23.860 --> 00:07:26.959 our intuition certainly plays when you're talking about the dream 111 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.569 realm because it's as yet unmapped, let's call it that. 112 00:07:30.990 --> 00:07:34.250 But anyway, so that's where we start. And we're talking 113 00:07:34.430 --> 00:07:37.529 contact in your dreams. And specifically, too, the weird part 114 00:07:37.550 --> 00:07:40.069 about this dream that I... Not just that the entity 115 00:07:40.089 --> 00:07:41.870 and the children and the, you know, the whole bit 116 00:07:42.410 --> 00:07:47.370 of the space, the space is the weird part. They're 117 00:07:47.410 --> 00:07:50.939 in church. Has anybody ever had dreams of church? I 118 00:07:50.980 --> 00:07:53.379 was just asking Mrs. Strange this before we started and 119 00:07:53.420 --> 00:07:56.120 she couldn't remember, but I mean, you know, we don't 120 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.259 really go to church. So, you know, have mercy on 121 00:07:59.300 --> 00:08:00.980 our souls and all the rest of that. And I mean, 122 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.720 you guys out there, but I don't either. I don't 123 00:08:04.740 --> 00:08:07.879 remember having a dream about church ever at all. Although 124 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:09.540 I do dream, you know, not as much as I 125 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.180 should or probably could. So anyway, just just a couple 126 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:14.500 of questions to start. And I'm calling this tonight a 127 00:08:14.540 --> 00:08:17.529 lantern at the rail, the oldest algorithm. And we're going 128 00:08:17.550 --> 00:08:20.290 to get into some nostalgia stuff and some other wild 129 00:08:20.329 --> 00:08:22.870 and weird tales that kind of fit into this, because 130 00:08:22.889 --> 00:08:25.889 that's really what we do. And just just to reiterate, 131 00:08:25.970 --> 00:08:28.089 all the disclaimers do apply. There's no truth to be 132 00:08:28.129 --> 00:08:30.230 found here. This is just ideas. This is just people 133 00:08:30.269 --> 00:08:33.610 talking about things. mythology and folklore and some of these 134 00:08:33.649 --> 00:08:36.049 old things that really don't get talked about as often 135 00:08:36.090 --> 00:08:36.649 as they should. 136 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:37.120 Okay. 137 00:08:37.169 --> 00:08:39.799 In my opinion, look, my humble opinion, I'm just one guy. 138 00:08:39.820 --> 00:08:43.240 So there is no truth here. It's just a conversation

139 00:08:43.299 --> 00:08:45.799 about wild ideas by dark of night. If you're here 140 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:48.600 for truth, you're certainly in the wrong place. That's that. 141 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.179 I hope you guys are doing well tonight. We're going 142 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.480 to get a quick break in this case. It will 143 00:08:52.500 --> 00:08:55.559 be the stoic minutes. Don't go anywhere. More trouble blinds 144 00:08:55.580 --> 00:08:57.440 in just a moment. Once again, sorry for starting late 145 00:08:57.779 --> 00:09:00.480 windows update. You can stuff it. You never know when 146 00:09:00.500 --> 00:09:01.960 it's going to sneak up on you and force you 147 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:05.470 to do it. But there you go. The software cost 148 00:09:05.490 --> 00:09:07.990 it tonight. Anyway, be right back. More Troubled Minds in 149 00:09:08.009 --> 00:09:11.210 just one moment. Don't go anywhere. 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The 158 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.860 happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts. 159 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:49.659 Focus on what you can influence. 160 00:09:49.700 --> 00:09:54.139 Cultivate a positive mindset and let go of what you 161 00:09:54.179 --> 00:09:55.370 can't change. 162 00:09:56.970 --> 00:09:58.230 Find your inner strength. 163 00:09:59.029 --> 00:10:03.429 Live each day with it. courage, wisdom, justice, and moderation. 164 00:10:04.269 --> 00:10:11.799 Embrace the Stoic virtues and find peace within. The Stoic Minute, 165 00:10:11.820 --> 00:10:14.059 brought to you by Jack in Oregon. 166 00:10:16.190 --> 00:10:19.370 Welcome back to Troubled Minds. I'm Michael Strange. Let us continue, 167 00:10:19.409 --> 00:10:21.490 shall we? Okay, so we're talking about this again. His 168 00:10:21.529 --> 00:10:25.220 name is St. John Bosco in this strange dream. Now, 169 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.639 I'm going to read you the dream as translated from 170 00:10:27.700 --> 00:10:31.679 Italian in full. Okay, translated from Italian to English. I'm 171 00:10:31.700 --> 00:10:33.259 going to read this in full so you guys know 172 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.100 exactly what we're working with. And there might be some 173 00:10:35.139 --> 00:10:37.700 tidbits in this that stand out maybe more to you 174 00:10:37.740 --> 00:10:39.659 than they did to me. And as usual, we are 175 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.009 taking your calls tonight if you want to be part 176 00:10:41.029 --> 00:10:42.990 of the conversation. Love to have you guys jump in 177 00:10:43.029 --> 00:10:45.389 here because that's really what makes this show go. It's 178 00:10:45.750 --> 00:10:49.600 powered by you. And the number to call is 702-857-6939. 179 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.820 Click the Discord link at troubledminds.org. We'll put you on 180 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.139 the show. It's as easy as that. Here's the dream. Now, 181 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.860 this is the recounting of, again, one John Bosco, St. 182 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:05.509 John Bosco, of this particular dream he had translated from Italian. Begin. 183 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:10.409 I dreamed I was in church. The church was packed 184 00:11:10.429 --> 00:11:13.929 with boys, but few were going up to the Holy Communion. 185 00:11:15.019 --> 00:11:18.610 Along the altar rail stood a man, very tall and 186 00:11:18.690 --> 00:11:23.490 very black, with two horns sprouting from his head. He 187 00:11:23.570 --> 00:11:26.710 held a magic lantern in his hand and showed different 188 00:11:26.750 --> 00:11:34.460 things to different boys. To one he showed recreation time, 189 00:11:34.940 --> 00:11:38.120 full of games, and drew him into his favorite pastime. 190 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.799 To another he showed games already played, the losses he'd taken, 191 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.960 and his hope of winning next time. To this one 192 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:49.799 he showed his hometown, with its walks, its fields, its house. 193 00:11:51.419 --> 00:11:55.059 To some he showed their studies, their books, the ranking exams. 194 00:11:55.820 --> 00:11:58.480 To some, the fruit, sweets and wine they had stashed 195 00:11:58.500 --> 00:12:02.220 in their trunks. To some, their relatives or friends, or 196 00:12:02.259 --> 00:12:06.159 something worse, their sins, and the money they hadn't turned in. 197 00:12:07.409 --> 00:12:10.460 So few went to the sacraments. Some saw the outings 198 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:13.919 and the holidays, and setting everything else aside, stopped to 199 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:18.779 gaze at the old companions of their fun. And he 200 00:12:18.830 --> 00:12:21.889 continues writing, Do you know what this dream means? It 201 00:12:21.909 --> 00:12:24.289 means the devil does everything he can to distract boys 202 00:12:24.370 --> 00:12:27.529 in church and keep them from the holy sacraments. And 203 00:12:27.590 --> 00:12:31.889 boys are such suckers that they stand there watching. My sons, 204 00:12:33.009 --> 00:12:35.600 we have to break this lantern of the devil. Do 205 00:12:35.620 --> 00:12:38.590 you know how? take a look at the cross and 206 00:12:38.649 --> 00:12:41.090 think that staying away from communion is the same as 207 00:12:41.129 --> 00:12:45.600 throwing yourself into the devil's arms.

Now, of course, you know, 208 00:12:45.620 --> 00:12:48.840 there's going to be a little bit of a hyperbole here. He's, 209 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.139 you know, you gotta, you gotta be a little doom 210 00:12:51.179 --> 00:12:53.639 preachy to get people to go sometimes. And, you know, 211 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.659 and children are not the best attendees when it comes 212 00:12:56.700 --> 00:12:59.679 to church. And, you know, at least for myself, I 213 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.169 can speak for myself. I was not enthused to go 214 00:13:02.210 --> 00:13:04.769 to church when I was a young man. Now, Beyond that, 215 00:13:04.889 --> 00:13:07.769 the weird part about this, or this stacks weird parts, 216 00:13:08.090 --> 00:13:11.350 is very specifically that we have this entity that's keeping 217 00:13:11.389 --> 00:13:14.029 them at bay, okay? It's keeping them from doing what 218 00:13:14.049 --> 00:13:16.250 they should be doing in the place in which they're 219 00:13:16.269 --> 00:13:18.919 doing it, which is, you know, the sacraments, the prayer, 220 00:13:19.059 --> 00:13:23.480 all the things, following along, paying attention to, again, what's 221 00:13:23.500 --> 00:13:28.789 the guy's name? John Bosco. And instead... This devil, whatever 222 00:13:28.830 --> 00:13:30.730 this entity is, if you want to call it the devil, 223 00:13:30.769 --> 00:13:33.889 it's devil-shaped for sure. It's sort of the devil meets Slenderman, 224 00:13:33.950 --> 00:13:38.629 as I suggested. But also, he's showing them images of 225 00:13:38.690 --> 00:13:43.919 nostalgia spaces with what appears to be described as a 226 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:48.840 magic lantern or, in modern parlance, a cell phone. I mean, 227 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.759 look at this thing that clearly the image here was 228 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.750 done to look exactly like that. And I was looking, 229 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.049 you know, back to, they had magic lanterns back in 230 00:13:57.070 --> 00:13:59.610 the day where this was, you know, in the 18th century, 231 00:13:59.649 --> 00:14:04.149 they did exist then. But beyond that, you know, certainly 232 00:14:04.210 --> 00:14:07.059 cell phones didn't. And, and I don't know. So, so, 233 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.600 so that's where we begin now, lots of things here, 234 00:14:09.779 --> 00:14:11.980 and we can start with just the basic questions about dreams, 235 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.059 because this is a dream. This is a sort of 236 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:18.700 a prophetic dream. Because it stacks it. There's a second 237 00:14:18.740 --> 00:14:21.320 version and a third version that come years later to 238 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.889 the same man. And so that's where we start. What 239 00:14:23.909 --> 00:14:25.549 do you know about the dream space here? And is 240 00:14:25.610 --> 00:14:28.409 it is it possible that information can come through somehow 241 00:14:28.809 --> 00:14:32.750 from some other

entity, some some some what would you 242 00:14:32.769 --> 00:14:36.919 call it? Some influence from somewhere else? That's what I'm 243 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.080 thinking about. That's what's on my mind tonight. And that's 244 00:14:39.100 --> 00:14:42.139 where we begin, because this is a creepy, spooky story 245 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:46.000 that I had never heard. And I'm always interested in 246 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.879 learning more things and chasing down some of these ideas. 247 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:52.570 And certainly there are troubled minds themes here. So, well, 248 00:14:52.750 --> 00:14:54.309 welcome and let's do it. If you want to be 249 00:14:54.350 --> 00:14:57.649 part of the conversation tonight, give us a call at OneMoreTime702. com. 250 00:14:58.019 --> 00:14:58.220 857-6939. 251 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.639 You can click the Discord link at TroubledMinds.org. We have 252 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:03.659 one caller on hold. I see you there, so hang tight. 253 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.220 We'll get to you momentarily. But James beat you, so 254 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:10.029 let's go to James Salcido. What's up, brother? Salcido Paranormal, 255 00:15:10.049 --> 00:15:11.429 you're on Troubled Minds. How are you? Let's hope there's 256 00:15:11.450 --> 00:15:13.110 no echo. If not, I think I know how to 257 00:15:13.149 --> 00:15:13.440 fix it. 258 00:15:13.529 --> 00:15:13.830 Welcome. 259 00:15:13.889 --> 00:15:15.389 How are you doing tonight, sir? And go right ahead. 260 00:15:17.110 --> 00:15:19.370 I'm okay. Hopefully you can hear me. I do hear 261 00:15:19.389 --> 00:15:19.710 an echo. 262 00:15:19.860 --> 00:15:24.559 Okay, cool. I can fix that. That was the Windows reset. 263 00:15:24.700 --> 00:15:28.289 Sorry about that. One moment, please. let me fix this 264 00:15:28.549 --> 00:15:31.269 okay hold on guys the last time i didn't know 265 00:15:31.309 --> 00:15:33.809 how to fix it because it was a new new 266 00:15:33.850 --> 00:15:35.649 thing i know how to fix it this time so 267 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:40.220 one momento all right right about there all right try 268 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:47.399 now james okay uh still there oh really okay uh 269 00:15:47.460 --> 00:15:51.759 about that try that okay and it's better Okay, perfect. 270 00:15:51.820 --> 00:15:54.330 And you're sounding a little more crispy as well. 271 00:15:54.570 --> 00:15:54.870 Welcome. 272 00:15:55.009 --> 00:15:57.090 Sorry for the jumping through a couple hoops. You're on 273 00:15:57.129 --> 00:15:58.870 Troubled Minds. What do you know about this? Is this 274 00:15:58.929 --> 00:16:02.309 one you've heard of? The old St. John, what's his name? 275 00:16:02.330 --> 00:16:02.470 St. 276 00:16:02.509 --> 00:16:05.299 John Bosco here. It's brand new to me. So I'm 277 00:16:05.419 --> 00:16:07.139 kind of taking a little leap of faith here to 278 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:08.700 hope I can kind of get through this tonight because 279 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.970 I don't know a ton about this story. But it 280 00:16:11.090 --> 00:16:13.929 certainly stood out for a bunch of reasons when I 281 00:16:13.950 --> 00:16:16.080 just read through it the first time. I was like, damn, 282 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:19.320 we got to touch on this because why not? But 283 00:16:19.340 --> 00:16:21.580 do you know about this? And of course, what else? 284 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.179 What do you got to start? Go right ahead, sir. 285 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:25.580 Yeah, and I hadn't heard of this. 286 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:31.070 I haven't. And partly because I think I've always tended 287 00:16:31.110 --> 00:16:34.190 to look more into broader topics. 288 00:16:35.610 --> 00:16:36.889 Not so much like. 289 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:44.039 Any kind of specific religion or religious-oriented material. So that's 290 00:16:44.059 --> 00:16:46.580 probably why I haven't really come across this yet. Nothing 291 00:16:46.620 --> 00:16:51.210 against it, just not what I've been looking into. But yeah, 292 00:16:51.289 --> 00:16:53.909 it's a fascinating thing. I did want to comment, and 293 00:16:53.929 --> 00:16:57.929 I think I mentioned this before, on the cell phone aspect. 294 00:16:58.730 --> 00:17:00.929 I have seen one in a dream once, but it 295 00:17:00.990 --> 00:17:04.690 didn't act the way that it should have. And that dream, 296 00:17:04.710 --> 00:17:07.960 I think it's because it was a visitation from a 297 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.839 loved one who was sort of producing the experience or 298 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:16.920 directing it. And the image on the cell phone screen 299 00:17:17.619 --> 00:17:19.940 was not necessary, or at least maybe they didn't think 300 00:17:19.980 --> 00:17:22.779 it was necessary. Or they didn't know how to project 301 00:17:22.859 --> 00:17:24.720 it or how to make it appear in my mind 302 00:17:24.740 --> 00:17:25.579 to me. 303 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.440 But I have had that happen once with that. 304 00:17:28.460 --> 00:17:29.660 It still worked. 305 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.680 I could still hear sound through it. But the screen 306 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:34.279 never lit up. 307 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.509 Yeah, which is in and of itself weird. So let's 308 00:17:38.549 --> 00:17:40.349 add that wrinkle, too, because we haven't talked about it 309 00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:42.839 since we did that show. Have any of you had 310 00:17:42.900 --> 00:17:46.480 a dream where a cell phone presented itself? And as 311 00:17:46.539 --> 00:17:49.259 James is describing, did it work properly if you saw it? 312 00:17:49.289 --> 00:17:51.230 Because the article we did, I'll see if I can 313 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:54.410 pull it up as we go, which inspired that older show, 314 00:17:54.470 --> 00:17:56.769 was that people are not seeing the cell phone in 315 00:17:56.789 --> 00:18:00.390 their dreams. Even though it sort of dominates our waking life, 316

00:18:00.490 --> 00:18:03.470 why doesn't it present itself in such a massive way 317 00:18:03.509 --> 00:18:06.039 in our dream space? It was kind of a mysterious 318 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.500 thing that, you know, the dreamologists or whatever the hell 319 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.500 you call those guys actually couldn't figure out. And that's 320 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:13.420 still probably ongoing. Sorry to interrupt. 321 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:13.819 Go ahead, James. 322 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:15.940 What else you got? No, it's fine. 323 00:18:16.299 --> 00:18:19.220 I do have more, but I'm happy to sit back 324 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.160 now and just sit in for the show and talk 325 00:18:22.180 --> 00:18:22.660 when there's time. 326 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.180 We got tons of time. Got about five minutes. If 327 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.099 you have four minutes before the bottom of the hour. 328 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:28.599 So just to get us back on the clock. So 329 00:18:28.619 --> 00:18:30.200 if you do have more, we certainly have time. 330 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:30.400 Go ahead. 331 00:18:31.700 --> 00:18:34.380 Yeah, well, I could just describe that experience real quick 332 00:18:35.309 --> 00:18:38.309 because it is fascinating to me. It was after my 333 00:18:38.589 --> 00:18:41.589 grandma had passed away, just not long after at all. 334 00:18:42.690 --> 00:18:45.160 And I had this, what I thought was a dream 335 00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:49.259 at first, even though it felt really vivid, of being 336 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.880 in the house that used to belong to my grandparents. 337 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:55.660 At the time, my older sister and her family were 338 00:18:55.700 --> 00:18:58.589 buying it. And so there was a transfer of stuff 339 00:18:58.630 --> 00:19:02.349 that was coming in and going out, from my grandparents' 340 00:19:02.369 --> 00:19:04.869 stuff going out to my sister's family's stuff going in. 341 00:19:05.450 --> 00:19:08.779 But in this dream, I was sitting in the living 342 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:12.039 room and all their furniture was My grandparents' furniture was 343 00:19:12.059 --> 00:19:15.599 still there, but all of their belongings, all the things 344 00:19:15.660 --> 00:19:18.819 that they would have on the tables and everything, that 345 00:19:18.859 --> 00:19:22.049 was all gone, except for my grandma's cell phone that 346 00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:27.049 was sitting on the living room coffee table. And it 347 00:19:27.750 --> 00:19:30.250 started making a sound like it was ringing, like it 348 00:19:30.670 --> 00:19:34.240 was getting a call. And I picked it up, but 349 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:37.950 the screen never lit up. I just put it next 350 00:19:37.970 --> 00:19:41.269 to my ear and said, hello. My dad, who is 351 00:19:41.329 --> 00:19:43.930 very much still alive, said, we'll be there. 352 00:19:43.809 --> 00:19:44.230 In a minute. 353 00:19:44.650 --> 00:19:46.069 I said, okay. 354 00:19:46.130 --> 00:19:48.789 I put the phone back down on the table, and 355 00:19:48.890 --> 00:19:51.900 family started pouring in. and all family that is very 356 00:19:51.940 --> 00:19:57.640 much alive, until my grandma walked in into the house. 357 00:19:58.579 --> 00:20:01.880 She walked in without any difficulty, even though she didn't 358 00:20:01.940 --> 00:20:05.380 have the cane or a walker that she had to 359 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.730 use for the last 15, maybe 20 years of her life. 360 00:20:09.470 --> 00:20:12.650 she walked in without any difficulty at all. And I 361 00:20:12.690 --> 00:20:16.480 could just sense it was her. Everything else, all the 362 00:20:16.539 --> 00:20:19.119 rest of my family, that was just images and sounds. 363 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:24.440 But I was sensing, picking up on her presence. And 364 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.710 so everyone else just bowed into the house, and several 365 00:20:28.730 --> 00:20:30.990 people went back to the kitchen, almost like they were 366 00:20:31.410 --> 00:20:34.589 getting ready to make food for a gathering, which would 367 00:20:34.609 --> 00:20:38.880 have been normal. And and we just all went to 368 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:41.509 the dining room and she sat in her favorite chair 369 00:20:41.769 --> 00:20:44.329 and looked all around and was looking at everybody. But 370 00:20:44.349 --> 00:20:46.759 she kept looking back at me as she was smiling 371 00:20:46.779 --> 00:20:50.170 at everybody. And I just kept on doing that until 372 00:20:50.210 --> 00:20:52.599 everything faded away, and I just woke up, of course, 373 00:20:52.819 --> 00:20:55.640 crying because it was just after she had passed. But 374 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:59.160 I was not sad so much. I was just happy 375 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.700 that she was okay. And that phone was her cell 376 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:06.380 phone that she had gotten. She had been given by family, 377 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:10.019 I don't know, 10 years or so before she had passed. And, 378 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.400 of course, she was very new to those kinds of devices. 379 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.700 She never had one until that phone. And she never 380 00:21:17.740 --> 00:21:21.700 even had a computer until that phone. So she was 381 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:25.319 still getting used to it, I think, in her time 382 00:21:25.339 --> 00:21:28.619 that she had with it before she passed. So, again, 383 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.799 it's a phone, but it's also odd because it feels 384 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.829 like it was just part of the dressing for the event. 385 00:21:37.089 --> 00:21:39.569 Yeah, and that right there, I want to point this out, too. 386 00:21:39.630 --> 00:21:41.490 I'm reading some of the chat as you go, hence 387 00:21:41.509 --> 00:21:43.869 my weird response time. But Matt's also said this, too, 388 00:21:43.910 --> 00:21:45.670 and I want to add this to what you're

describing. 389 00:21:46.150 --> 00:21:48.109 So Matt, he says, whenever I have a dream about 390 00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:51.049 a cell phone, it doesn't work right. And so we 391 00:21:51.089 --> 00:21:52.670 have a theme here. We already have a theme before, 392 00:21:53.170 --> 00:21:55.599 before we even got anywhere, really. I mean, when that's 393 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.059 absolutely amazing that same thing happening to James here in 394 00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:02.890 the same space. I mean, it's, um, This is weird. 395 00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.170 This is where we begin, okay? And great stuff, James. 396 00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:06.890 Can I take a break? And you're welcome to sit 397 00:22:06.950 --> 00:22:09.509 as usual, and we'll talk to you momentarily here. But 398 00:22:10.369 --> 00:22:15.079 fascinating experience, fascinating dream, and the weirdness of not just 399 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.140 the family coming and going, grandma, all the rest of 400 00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:19.980 the stuff with technology, but the thing not functioning properly. 401 00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:22.450 Is that what goes on in dreams with cell phones? 402 00:22:22.710 --> 00:22:24.150 Have you guys ever dreamed of a cell phone? And 403 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:26.190 we'll start there, too, because I think it's, like I said, 404 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:29.019 highly fascinating when you get to this stuff. But as usual, 405 00:22:29.059 --> 00:22:30.640 if you want to be part of the conversation, give 406 00:22:30.660 --> 00:22:33.859 us a call at 702-857-6939. You can click the Discord 407 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:35.599 link at TroubledMinds.org. We'll put you on the show. It's 408 00:22:35.619 --> 00:22:38.799 as easy as that. Tonight, I'm calling it a lantern 409 00:22:38.859 --> 00:22:41.269 at the rail. I'm the oldest algorithm. And we'll talk 410 00:22:41.289 --> 00:22:44.869 about that algorithm when we come back. The algorithm. Shout 411 00:22:44.910 --> 00:22:48.430 out Mike in Colorado. The wild part is, well, there's 412 00:22:48.490 --> 00:22:50.630 a lot. So what do you know about dreams? What 413 00:22:50.650 --> 00:22:52.980 do you know about entities and content? Is it possible 414 00:22:53.019 --> 00:22:57.420 that the dream realm is something other than very simply 415 00:22:58.259 --> 00:23:00.579 an overactive mind at work? One more time. 416 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:00.670 702-857-6939. 417 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:02.329 This is Troubled Minds. I'm Michael Strange. Be right back. 418 00:23:18.509 --> 00:23:21.609 You're tuning into Troubled Minds, the show where mystery knows 419 00:23:21.670 --> 00:23:25.869 no bounds. Stay tuned for revelations that'll keep you questioning 420 00:23:25.930 --> 00:23:27.490 the fabric of reality. 421 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:51.140 Candles burned in turin town the church was full the 422 00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:54.029 boys knelt down but. 423 00:23:53.950 --> 00:23:58.549 At the rail where the bread was laid a tall 424 00:23:58.569 --> 00:24:03.250 man waited in the shade two horns rose from his 425 00:24:03.329 --> 00:24:06.369 midnight hair. 426 00:24:06.220 --> 00:24:14.609 A lantern swinging in He showed one boy the games 427 00:24:14.650 --> 00:24:16.329 he played The. 428 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:20.859 Bets he lost, the bets he made He showed one 429 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:26.599 boy his mother's door The fields he walked the year 430 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:31.799 before He showed the one hidden in the chest. 431 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:36.289 The coins he kept, the sins unconfessed. 432 00:24:35.430 --> 00:24:38.509 And every life. 433 00:24:37.829 --> 00:24:43.589 Was a different life Every child saw his own delight 434 00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:49.250 And nobody rose and nobody went. 435 00:24:48.470 --> 00:24:52.329 Up to the rail where the hour was spent. 436 00:24:52.589 --> 00:24:54.950 Where will your eyes go first? 437 00:24:56.329 --> 00:25:01.559 When the lantern starts to blow He never lays a 438 00:25:01.900 --> 00:25:11.359 hand on you He only lets you know Every friend 439 00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:17.369 you left behind Every summer gone to dust Where will 440 00:25:17.509 --> 00:25:23.109 your eyes go first When the light is made. 441 00:25:22.589 --> 00:25:23.390 For us. 442 00:25:26.730 --> 00:25:31.410 The desert monks knew him at noon when the sun 443 00:25:31.569 --> 00:25:33.930 stood still like a nailed down moon. 444 00:25:35.190 --> 00:25:41.480 He called them to the window. 445 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:55.900 Welcome back to Troubled Minds. 446 00:25:57.009 --> 00:26:00.559 I'm your host, Michael Strange. We're streaming on YouTube, Rumble, X, Twitch, 447 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.960 and Kik. We are broadcasting live on the Troubled Minds 448 00:26:04.019 --> 00:26:07.279 Radio Network. That's KUAP Digital Broadcasting out of Las Vegas, Nevada. 449 00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:12.759 And of course, 88.4 FM, Auckland, New Zealand. Tonight, in 1865, 450 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:14.960 a priest told a room full of boys in Turin 451 00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:17.880 about a dream. A tall horned figure stood at the 452 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.859 communion rail holding a magic lantern, and he showed every 453 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:25.059 boy something different. Their games, their hometowns, their secret money, 454 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.500 their old friends. Almost nobody went up to the altar 455 00:26:30.059 --> 00:26:33.420 in the dream. Now, we're talking about a lot of things. Now, specifically, 456 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.240 prophetic dreams comes to mind as part of this, but 457 00:26:36.660 --> 00:26:39.690 entity contact in some way. Now, if we talk about 458 00:26:39.730 --> 00:26:43.970 the unseen realm and these influences, as I like to 459 00:26:44.009 --> 00:26:48.549 call them, control mechanisms, influences that are not just human influences. 460 00:26:48.589 --> 00:26:51.410 Of course, we have tons of those

swirling around us 461 00:26:51.589 --> 00:26:55.130 all the time. But beyond that, the next level becomes 462 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.220 and it's been heavily debated. And, you know, we talk 463 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:01.160 about spiritual wars and things like this. But maybe just 464 00:27:01.220 --> 00:27:06.059 maybe there are entities at at play or at war 465 00:27:06.259 --> 00:27:08.519 with for our minds and our hearts and our souls. 466 00:27:08.700 --> 00:27:11.059 And this is where this really becomes an interesting tidbit, 467 00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:14.079 because if again, John Bosco, let me read you a 468 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:16.579 little bit about John Bosco, by the way, because there's 469 00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:19.680 a there's an important part here. He was he was 470 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.829 a good man. Listen to this. So here we go. 471 00:27:23.069 --> 00:27:25.369 Popularly known as Don Bosco. So he was an Italian 472 00:27:25.410 --> 00:27:29.829 Catholic priest, educator and writer. While working in Turin, where 473 00:27:29.950 --> 00:27:33.380 the population suffered many of the ill effects of industrialization 474 00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:38.460 and urbanization. Another liminal time, right? So we're kind of 475 00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:40.740 moving into one of those, aren't we? He dedicated his 476 00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:44.119 life to the betterment and education of street children, juvenile 477 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.730 delinquents and other disadvantaged youths. He developed teaching methods based 478 00:27:47.809 --> 00:27:50.829 on love rather than punishment, a method that became known 479 00:27:50.890 --> 00:27:55.390 as the Cilician Preventivist System. Okay, so that's an important 480 00:27:55.430 --> 00:27:57.549 part to lay down as part of this, because he 481 00:27:57.609 --> 00:28:00.630 isn't just some rando. He's working with the people that 482 00:28:00.650 --> 00:28:03.759 need it the most, the people that society has left behind, 483 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.490 that their parents have left behind. Like I said, if 484 00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:11.490 you've ever worked with any children in any capacity, it's 485 00:28:11.549 --> 00:28:13.349 difficult to begin with. But then when you work with 486 00:28:13.369 --> 00:28:15.829 the ones that have been sort of left and are 487 00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:20.099 lashing out because for a lot of reasons, maybe they're undiagnosed. 488 00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:22.700 We have autism today. They didn't even know what that 489 00:28:22.740 --> 00:28:24.980 was back then. There's so many different things to look at. 490 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.200 ADHD is... And I'm not saying any of that stuff 491 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:31.480 is even relevant here. I'm just saying that we're diagnosing 492 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.740 things that they had no idea about back in the 17th, 18th, 493 00:28:33.740 --> 00:28:34.180 19th century. 494 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:34.259 So. 495 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.440 Just as an example. But so Don Bosco again. So 496 00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.079 he's a Saint Don Bosco or John Bosco. They call 497 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:48.309 him Don for the endearing term. But his name is John, 498 00:28:48.349 --> 00:28:51.089 John Bosco. And so that dream, again, was a church 499 00:28:51.130 --> 00:28:53.609 full of young people, this tall black figure with horns. 500 00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:56.690 He's shining this magic lantern at these children and he's 501 00:28:56.730 --> 00:29:00.049 distracting them. And they're becoming distracted from the lessons, from 502 00:29:00.089 --> 00:29:04.259 the sacrament, from actually prayer and being close to God, 503 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.119 for lack of a better term there. And look, I 504 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:10.240 don't know what this means, other than like I'm talking 505 00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:13.640 about when we discuss dreams and prophetic visions and maybe 506 00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:17.849 contact to these entities through. And this weird cell phone device, 507 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.880 the cell phone-like device that's showing these children different things, 508 00:29:20.940 --> 00:29:23.650 there's a lot to unpack just in the dream itself. 509 00:29:24.089 --> 00:29:28.269 But like I said, this dream recurred two and three 510 00:29:28.329 --> 00:29:31.589 times in different ways with the same entity showing up 511 00:29:31.650 --> 00:29:36.049 doing different things. So dressed differently and presenting differently. So 512 00:29:36.329 --> 00:29:37.569 we'll talk about that as we go. But what do 513 00:29:37.589 --> 00:29:39.470 you know about this? Do you think it is possible 514 00:29:39.490 --> 00:29:42.960 to contemplate? have an entity contact us from the other 515 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.599 side of the dream realm or from within the dream realm? 516 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:47.809 We've talked about this a lot and I know, but 517 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.309 it is one of those things that everybody is fascinated 518 00:29:50.349 --> 00:29:53.970 with because people, everybody has dreams in some capacity that 519 00:29:54.210 --> 00:29:56.869 There's lucid dreamers every single night. There's some people that 520 00:29:56.910 --> 00:30:00.690 dream sporadically, but everybody dreams. And that's why this is 521 00:30:00.750 --> 00:30:02.829 one of those ones that kind of hits hard because 522 00:30:02.869 --> 00:30:05.730 this guy was doing God's work literally out there helping 523 00:30:05.779 --> 00:30:09.339 disadvantaged youth. And beyond that, he's having these dreams about 524 00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:15.140 these entities trying to keep the youth from actually locking in. Yeah, 525 00:30:15.700 --> 00:30:17.819 that's where we start. Anything else to add, James? And 526 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.480 we'll go to the phone call. Thanks for being patient, friends. 527 00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:22.640

You're on Troubled Minds. Welcome back. And sorry to space 528 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:23.900 case you there at the end. I was just reading 529 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.869 some chat and got a little sidetracked. But welcome back. 530 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.589 How are you feeling? Hope everything's well. And go right ahead. 531 00:30:28.609 --> 00:30:28.990 What else you got? 532 00:30:30.569 --> 00:30:31.069 That's fine. 533 00:30:31.170 --> 00:30:31.609 You're fine. 534 00:30:32.029 --> 00:30:33.670 My voice is trying to go out of me, but 535 00:30:33.769 --> 00:30:37.609 other than that, I have come across accounts from people 536 00:30:37.650 --> 00:30:43.420 before who have said they've seen shadow figures or the 537 00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:47.099 same figure that they don't recognize in their dreams, like 538 00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:51.130 a regular looking person, but Someone they don't recognize at 539 00:30:51.210 --> 00:30:55.309 all in their dreams before. I've come across that in, again, 540 00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:59.259 the research I've done for finding reports of anomalous experiences 541 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:00.619 for the podcast I do. 542 00:31:01.460 --> 00:31:02.809 And so it is a phenomenon. 543 00:31:02.829 --> 00:31:04.009 I don't know. 544 00:31:04.650 --> 00:31:07.140 I've never come across anything like that where there's this 545 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.000 entity trying to distract anyone or get anyone to pay, 546 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.480 basically like having a device that tries to get their attention. 547 00:31:16.059 --> 00:31:19.519 But I have come across the pattern of people seeing 548 00:31:20.099 --> 00:31:22.220 unrecognized figures in their dreams before. 549 00:31:23.069 --> 00:31:23.269 Yeah. 550 00:31:23.470 --> 00:31:25.309 And that's that's one of the big ones, too, is 551 00:31:25.349 --> 00:31:27.670 that not just that, like I said, this this weird 552 00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:30.599 melding of the slender man meets meets the devil. 553 00:31:30.660 --> 00:31:30.819 Right. 554 00:31:30.859 --> 00:31:33.640 Sort of a silhouette aspect. It's a lot. It's a lot. 555 00:31:33.700 --> 00:31:35.289 And you talk about these entities and all the things 556 00:31:35.309 --> 00:31:37.859 you're describing to you. As usual, how do you define 557 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.349 these things and how much of this is real? And 558 00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:42.569 when I talk about this stuff, too, and I think 559 00:31:42.609 --> 00:31:45.170 about these ideas, I certainly think about the influence it 560 00:31:45.210 --> 00:31:49.109 has on ourselves in our mind space, in our mind's eye. And, 561 00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:51.759 you know, let's say, for instance, as just a thought experiment, 562 00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:53.119 don't do this because I don't want you to do 563 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.759 this or be bad. Don't be bad, people. Be good. 564 00:31:56.660 --> 00:31:58.460 But if you're always like the devil, the devil, the devil, 565 00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:02.279 the devil, certainly the devil creeps in. Like even if 566 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.799 you don't believe the devil is real, it's irrelevant. You 567 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.680 start to sort of embody the archetype of the devil. 568 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:12.240 Like he's with you. He's watching. He's encouraging you to 569 00:32:12.309 --> 00:32:14.670 do bad things or whatever. You see what I mean? 570 00:32:15.089 --> 00:32:19.029 So we have this ability as humans to delude ourselves 571 00:32:19.089 --> 00:32:20.589 in a lot of ways. And like I said, throw 572 00:32:20.609 --> 00:32:22.390 the spirituality out of it and look at it just 573 00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:25.450 from the materialist side there. We can do this anyway. 574 00:32:25.650 --> 00:32:27.779 We don't need a devil. We can just conjure one 575 00:32:27.819 --> 00:32:29.759 on our own. And so that's why I like to 576 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:31.660 think about these ideas and sort of break them down 577 00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:33.829 and not to discount the fact that the devil may 578 00:32:33.849 --> 00:32:35.970 be real. Look, I'm down with that, too. I think 579 00:32:35.990 --> 00:32:40.430 there's probably a lot that backs that up in the 580 00:32:41.089 --> 00:32:43.950 historical record, but also not. So it just depends on 581 00:32:44.329 --> 00:32:46.750 what you believe, how you believe, and how we have 582 00:32:46.769 --> 00:32:48.589 these discussions. So that's why I like to break it 583 00:32:48.609 --> 00:32:50.569 down and kind of look at things separately. And then 584 00:32:50.609 --> 00:32:53.940 also then bring them back together because... And regardless of 585 00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:56.059 what you do believe, we're still dealing with the devil 586 00:32:56.099 --> 00:32:58.559 here in some capacity. So I don't know. What do 587 00:32:58.579 --> 00:33:01.660 you know about this? Not just strange dreams, prophetic dreams, 588 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.460 the idea of meeting entities, being influenced by entities from 589 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.829 the dream realm. And this weird story about John Bosco 590 00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:12.170 having this dream in church where the youth are being, 591 00:33:13.589 --> 00:33:20.009 interestingly enough, they're being distracted by nostalgic images of their 592 00:33:20.049 --> 00:33:23.829 own lives. Isn't that isn't that wild? Anything else, James? 593 00:33:23.849 --> 00:33:24.309 We'll go to the call. 594 00:33:26.259 --> 00:33:28.900 Yeah, no, it seems it seems like one of those 595 00:33:29.819 --> 00:33:33.099 best ways to get someone's attention is with that nostalgia. 596 00:33:33.740 --> 00:33:36.470 I mean, what does that remind us of anything today? 597 00:33:37.329 --> 00:33:38.150 Or everything today. 598 00:33:38.250 --> 00:33:42.180 Everything today. Exactly. Everything today. Every damn thing we do 599 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.380 is

like is a remake of something because they want 600 00:33:46.420 --> 00:33:48.460 us knuckleheads to go back and buy the ticket, even 601 00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.779 though they did it 10 times worse. And many of 602 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.859 us knuckleheads do go buy the ticket. Anyway, let me 603 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.920 hear your thoughts on this. I'm calling this the oldest algorithm, 604 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.069 a lantern at the rail. 605 00:33:56.769 --> 00:33:56.900 702-857-6939. 606 00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:01.029 Click the Discord link at TroubleMinds.org. I think you should 607 00:34:01.049 --> 00:34:02.789 be good, James. Just hang tight until we get through 608 00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:03.869 the call. Let me know if you can hear them 609 00:34:03.890 --> 00:34:05.829 when they come on. What's up? What's your first name? 610 00:34:05.849 --> 00:34:07.529 Where are you calling from? You're on TroubleMinds. 611 00:34:08.210 --> 00:34:08.590 Go right ahead. 612 00:34:09.329 --> 00:34:11.090 I don't hear anything. Sorry about that. I'm going to 613 00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:12.389 hang up on you. If you call back, I'll go 614 00:34:12.789 --> 00:34:14.969 right back to you right away. But I'm not sure 615 00:34:15.030 --> 00:34:15.469 it's working. 616 00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:16.079 Hold on. 617 00:34:16.099 --> 00:34:16.659 Can you hear this, James? 618 00:34:17.460 --> 00:34:17.679 Yes. 619 00:34:18.019 --> 00:34:19.440 Okay. So if you can hear that, that means we 620 00:34:19.460 --> 00:34:23.110 should hear them coming through. That's the same channel, so 621 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.449 I think it's a bad connection. Call back, and we'll 622 00:34:25.469 --> 00:34:27.889 put you on the show. Sorry about that. The technology 623 00:34:27.929 --> 00:34:33.030 does have a mind of its own sometimes, and that's that. 702-857-6939. 624 00:34:33.230 --> 00:34:36.159 Click the Discord link at TroubledMinds.org. Algorithm on the phone line. 625 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.500 Thank you. The smart guy pops over to test the 626 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.380 phone line. Are you there? Oh, you're on Troubled Minds. 627 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.619 How you doing, brother? Pretty good. I hear you loud 628 00:34:42.659 --> 00:34:43.440 and clear. Can you hear him, James? 629 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:44.119 Yes. 630 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.099 Perfect. Thank you for testing the phone line. Algo was 631 00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.039 on the Discord and was like, hand up. And he's like, hey, 632 00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:51.400 I'm going to just call the phone line. Appreciate it, brother. Welcome. 633 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.400 What do you got on this? Tons of ways to 634 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.380 take this as usual. That's how we like to do it. 635 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:57.920 Thank you for calling in and testing the phone line 636 00:34:57.940 --> 00:35:00.039 and proving that it actually works. What you got? 637 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.300 Go right ahead, sir. I, as a. 638 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.539 Child, I had reoccurring, not good dreams, but reoccurring dreams. 639 00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:09.489 I've had dreams interrupted where I woke up and then 640 00:35:09.510 --> 00:35:13.730 I fall back asleep and the dream continues. So dreaming 641 00:35:13.809 --> 00:35:17.739 is not a new phenomenon to me. The explanations of 642 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.719 the dream books I find silly and nonsensical and ways 643 00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:25.639 to sell books because I can't even imagine they could 644 00:35:25.699 --> 00:35:29.239 know what my dream meant because they don't know my life. 645 00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:32.769 So I kind of throw that aside. All that being said, 646 00:35:32.789 --> 00:35:38.650 that amazing story you told really tripped my trigger for 647 00:35:38.710 --> 00:35:45.389 simulation theory in the way that all of the... stuff 648 00:35:45.449 --> 00:35:48.030 is out there it seems which is why it repeats 649 00:35:48.090 --> 00:35:54.369 a lot we keep focusing into a certain version of 650 00:35:54.469 --> 00:35:57.559 it so it keeps coming back into us i think 651 00:35:57.619 --> 00:36:01.380 it's a choose your own experience interactive like that one 652 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.559 video game i think i can't remember what it was 653 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.820 something quest then i had this goofy guy in the 654 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.070 80s it was a cartoon and the controls are really 655 00:36:10.110 --> 00:36:12.329 slow but if you went the wrong way you died 656 00:36:12.369 --> 00:36:13.750 if you went the right way you got to continue 657 00:36:13.769 --> 00:36:18.440 the game And so if it is a simulation of 658 00:36:18.539 --> 00:36:21.940 sorts and all of this energy is out there waiting 659 00:36:21.980 --> 00:36:25.440 to be brought to us, that photograph on the right 660 00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:29.840 with the demon with the pocket computer and the children 661 00:36:29.860 --> 00:36:35.880 is like completely representative of what I think our society 662 00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:40.739 is experiencing right now. And I mean, that's my jumping 663 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.460 off point. The second thing I have is nostalgia programming 664 00:36:43.659 --> 00:36:49.059 is the most powerful programming, according to the MKUltra documents 665 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:53.219 and different things I've researched and read. So be mindful 666 00:36:53.260 --> 00:36:58.329 of nostalgia programming. If it rings to you and you think, oh, man, 667 00:36:58.389 --> 00:36:58.969 I long. 668 00:36:58.769 --> 00:37:03.429 For that, it might be programming. It might just not 669 00:37:03.510 --> 00:37:07.800 be a cool nostalgia trip. So everybody be wary. And 670 00:37:07.929 --> 00:37:10.139 I guess the final thing that I would say about 671 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.880 all this is I totally appreciate that you have. 672 00:37:12.820 -->

00:37:15.880 A show about this. A lot of people are leery 673 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.039 of talking about dreams and I'm super excited to talk 674 00:37:19.059 --> 00:37:19.920 about dreams all the time. 675 00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:24.070 Yeah, no, glad to have you. And I, I, I 676 00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:26.929 can tell from your energy from, from how you're speaking here. And, 677 00:37:27.010 --> 00:37:30.690 and this, this is wild though, because it, and a 678 00:37:30.730 --> 00:37:33.289 very good point, Saul, and I want to echo what 679 00:37:33.309 --> 00:37:35.449 you're saying there regarding this is, it seems to be 680 00:37:35.489 --> 00:37:37.789 a sign of the times and, And even into the 681 00:37:37.849 --> 00:37:41.360 simulation theory bit, because if, again, so let's detach from 682 00:37:41.380 --> 00:37:43.400 reality for a second. Let's just sort of put up 683 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.400 our mind space in simulation and say that there is 684 00:37:46.460 --> 00:37:50.199 some sort of bleed through in the computer space, the 685 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:54.119 compute space of our living life and our dream life. 686 00:37:54.500 --> 00:37:58.019 And maybe even they're separate computations, but there is some 687 00:37:58.179 --> 00:38:00.900 entanglement there that we deal with and we catch these 688 00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:03.960 images that come through. And in this particular case, this 689 00:38:04.019 --> 00:38:08.329 is an old story from 1865. that is very poignant 690 00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:11.269 of exactly what's happening today. Like you're describing this, this 691 00:38:11.429 --> 00:38:16.389 entity that's showing these children, this like a mind brainwashing device, 692 00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:19.800 like mind control device that looks exactly like a cell phone. 693 00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.840 I mean, he called it a magic lantern in his 694 00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:25.599 description from the dream, because of course there were no 695 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:27.280 cell phones. So what do you, what do you call 696 00:38:27.340 --> 00:38:31.039 a cell phone beaming nostalgic images into people's heads when 697 00:38:31.059 --> 00:38:32.849 you don't know what it's called? In this case, it 698 00:38:32.929 --> 00:38:36.110 turned into a magic lantern and this nostalgia programming, dude. 699 00:38:36.849 --> 00:38:39.469 That's very well said. And I'm going to quote a 700 00:38:39.550 --> 00:38:42.570 very wise man. His name is Mike. He lives in Colorado. 701 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.400 And he always says when he calls in, shout out 702 00:38:45.460 --> 00:38:49.059 Mike in Colorado, he always says, control your mind or 703 00:38:49.179 --> 00:38:51.840 someone else will. And this is a perfect example of 704 00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:55.719 that because nostalgia programming does draw you back to places 705 00:38:56.260 --> 00:39:00.519 which are not always healthy. And I appreciate you pointing 706 00:39:00.539 --> 00:39:02.969 that out. And for jumping in here, Firestuff as always, brother, 707 00:39:03.010 --> 00:39:04.590 what else you got? If anything, all yours. 708 00:39:05.699 --> 00:39:07.940 You know, all of that said, I don't know that 709 00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.239 I have a whole lot more other than I hope 710 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:16.360 everybody who listens to the broadcast, and I think most 711 00:39:16.409 --> 00:39:21.530 people understand you're on an exploration mission, a seven-year mission 712 00:39:21.570 --> 00:39:25.230 to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly 713 00:39:25.250 --> 00:39:26.949 go where no podcaster goes before. 714 00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:27.530 But. 715 00:39:28.889 --> 00:39:32.159 As we go through the things we're going through from 716 00:39:33.019 --> 00:39:36.679 what seems to be not a great future for a 717 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:42.000 lot of people, all of that stuff can change tomorrow. 718 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.659 It can always be better. It doesn't have to be, 719 00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:49.030 I'm pretty black pilled for people that know me, but 720 00:39:49.090 --> 00:39:53.690 I'm always hopeful because I do know that we as 721 00:39:53.969 --> 00:39:56.630 men and women of this realm are probably one of 722 00:39:56.650 --> 00:39:59.369 the most masterful creations that we could even imagine, even 723 00:39:59.429 --> 00:40:02.639 if it is a simulation and God is a computer 724 00:40:02.659 --> 00:40:07.860 program or whatever a person thinks that It's not bad. 725 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.940 It doesn't have to be bad. Yes, there's bad things 726 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:15.079 and bad things happen all the time. But overall, if 727 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.500 you set your mind to a place where you're going 728 00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:20.449 to make it and it's going to be good, then 729 00:40:20.489 --> 00:40:22.769 guess what? You're going to make it and it's going 730 00:40:22.789 --> 00:40:23.150 to be good. 731 00:40:24.670 --> 00:40:24.949 Amen. 732 00:40:25.449 --> 00:40:28.329 Even look, even, even Dr. Black pill can slip a 733 00:40:28.349 --> 00:40:30.730 white pill from time to time. And, and, and this is, 734 00:40:30.730 --> 00:40:33.559 this is the best part about that is, is manifesting 735 00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:36.940 that future is it's, it's about you. And look, I'm 736 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.679 not saying that all positive thoughts only lead to positive things. 737 00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:44.949 You know, nostalgia is a positive emotion, but as you described, yeah, 738 00:40:44.989 --> 00:40:46.829 it can be used against you. And so this is, 739 00:40:46.849 --> 00:40:49.469 this is, this is the point. And so do manifest, 740 00:40:50.789 --> 00:40:52.829 the best is going to happen to you. Because if 741 00:40:52.869 --> 00:40:55.409 you don't allow for the possibility of it and even 742 00:40:55.469 --> 00:40:58.820 repeat the possibility, certainly it

won't. So I think all 743 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.480 that is incredible and on point and something we need 744 00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:04.519 to hear today because these are trying times, are they not? 745 00:41:05.420 --> 00:41:08.019 They seem to be, yeah. More so for people that 746 00:41:08.059 --> 00:41:12.650 don't have any kind of foundational belief of what they're 747 00:41:12.690 --> 00:41:15.989 doing here and why they're here. And that doesn't mean 748 00:41:16.030 --> 00:41:19.449 religion and that doesn't mean God. It can, but it 749 00:41:19.489 --> 00:41:23.199 doesn't have to. If a person doesn't have those things, 750 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:27.400 I think it's even harder because it's crazy AF out there. 751 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:32.739 Just every day there's 15 things that are insane that 752 00:41:32.860 --> 00:41:35.539 don't resonate to anything that we knew in the past. 753 00:41:36.269 --> 00:41:38.309 Like the simulations cracked or broken. 754 00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:39.690 The code's repeating. 755 00:41:39.809 --> 00:41:43.079 It's on fast forward and we can't find the remote. 756 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.500 There's just like a whole bunch of stuff going on. 757 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.440 And it's scary and it's hard. And I think we're 758 00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:51.579 all in it together if we understand we're all in 759 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:52.280 it together, you know? 760 00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:52.969 Amen. 761 00:41:53.349 --> 00:41:53.650 Amen. 762 00:41:53.710 --> 00:41:56.670 And that's the point. Don't forget it. Things are scary. 763 00:41:56.710 --> 00:42:00.409 Things are accelerating. But find a base, whatever the base is. 764 00:42:00.769 --> 00:42:02.449 Find a home base you can kind of retreat to. 765 00:42:03.010 --> 00:42:06.519 and center yourself, whether that's a meditative state, whether that's prayer, 766 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.920 however you do those things, do those things because you're 767 00:42:09.940 --> 00:42:11.599 going to need them. We are, we are coming into 768 00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:14.559 trying times. It is trying times now. It is accelerating. 769 00:42:14.739 --> 00:42:17.699 And so, well said all that. I appreciate you very much, brother. 770 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.630 All right, my friend, keep, keep it up and we'll 771 00:42:20.650 --> 00:42:21.369 talk to you next time. 772 00:42:21.710 --> 00:42:25.590 Thank you very much. Always a pleasure. Mike in Colorado, Algorhythm, 773 00:42:25.630 --> 00:42:26.969 as you know him. Thank you for the call. Have 774 00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:29.800 a fantastic night. And please give him a follow. Look, 775 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:31.639 this is why we do this. We talk to people 776 00:42:32.059 --> 00:42:35.440 to get these ideas together. And look, wildly enough, you 777 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.960 know me, I like to look at all the possible angles. 778 00:42:38.059 --> 00:42:40.539 I didn't even consider simulation theory

tonight as part of this. 779 00:42:41.139 --> 00:42:43.780 But you see, there are angles of these things leaking 780 00:42:43.860 --> 00:42:46.500 in as part of these stories. And again, I'm not 781 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.159 even saying the story is true or the story is 782 00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:50.989 false or anything. Look, I'm not making claims here. I'm 783 00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:52.860 not saying we live in a simulation. I'm saying once 784 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.400 you open the possibility. suddenly things start to take on 785 00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.039 different forms. And that's really what this is all about. 786 00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:02.760 Please give Mike in Colorado, a good friend for a 787 00:43:02.780 --> 00:43:05.820 long time, an old buddy at this point in the 788 00:43:05.900 --> 00:43:09.610 trenches doing streams and talking about these wild ideas. And 789 00:43:09.650 --> 00:43:11.969 even Dr. Darkpill can slip you a white pill from 790 00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.110 time to time. Troubleminds.org forward slash friends. Scroll down just 791 00:43:15.150 --> 00:43:18.210 a little bit. And it's under... Actually, it's right at 792 00:43:18.230 --> 00:43:20.610 the top. Don't even scroll down. Right at the top. Algorithm. 793 00:43:20.650 --> 00:43:22.070 It's right there right above my head if you're watching 794 00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:25.000 the stream. Fire call. And yes, all of that plays. 795 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:28.000 And this is all important. And we're going back to 796 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.179 this story once again, if you're just joining us, this 797 00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:33.420 story of St. John Bosco, the apostle of youth. And again, 798 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.360 by all accounts, historically, he was a good man. He 799 00:43:35.409 --> 00:43:38.050 wasn't collecting kids to do terrible things to them. He 800 00:43:38.070 --> 00:43:40.170 was trying to get them out of the streets and 801 00:43:40.210 --> 00:43:41.210 put them back on track. 802 00:43:41.710 --> 00:43:41.949 Okay. 803 00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:44.630 And look, I'm not so cynical that I want to call, 804 00:43:44.690 --> 00:43:47.889 you know, every, every historical figure that worked with children, 805 00:43:48.329 --> 00:43:51.630 a monster. I'm sure there's some. But I'll take this 806 00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:53.190 at face value. And I'm not going to dig any 807 00:43:53.230 --> 00:43:56.349 deeper than necessary here for the sake of the conversation. 808 00:43:56.389 --> 00:43:59.710 But I know you know what I know that you 809 00:43:59.750 --> 00:44:01.789 know what I'm thinking. But I'm not going to do that. 810 00:44:01.909 --> 00:44:03.349 I'm not going to do that right now. We're going 811 00:44:03.369 --> 00:44:06.289 to white pill this. And instead, hey, look, reaching out 812 00:44:06.349 --> 00:44:09.840 to the youth is good. And, you know, the Big 813 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.159 Brothers program, you know, just had

an idea anyway. Lots 814 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:18.550 of really good stuff here, because this is what the 815 00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:20.889 basis of reality is about. What do you believe? Do 816 00:44:20.909 --> 00:44:23.170 you believe the dream realm is just simply a figment 817 00:44:23.190 --> 00:44:26.969 of our imagination, an overactive, resting mind? Or do you 818 00:44:26.989 --> 00:44:30.260 think it's something deeper? Because this individual got these dream 819 00:44:30.340 --> 00:44:37.679 impressions of this devil-like entity distracting children with nostalgic propaganda 820 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:39.480 from going to church. 821 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:40.760 Hmm. 822 00:44:41.780 --> 00:44:45.019 The plot thickens. And of course, there are additional dreams 823 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.239 and additional angles, which we'll get to as we go tonight. 824 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.559 That's what we do. Open it up to the entire 825 00:44:49.699 --> 00:44:52.559 lexicon of folklore and mythology and look at this through 826 00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:55.030 a different lens. And that's the point. Thank you again 827 00:44:55.050 --> 00:44:57.070 to Mike in Colorado for testing the phone line. It 828 00:44:57.110 --> 00:44:58.690 does work. So if you want to call into the 829 00:44:58.730 --> 00:45:03.610 phone line, you're welcome to 702-857-6939. Click the Discord link 830 00:45:03.650 --> 00:45:06.849 at Troubleminds.org. James, anything to add? We got about four 831 00:45:06.869 --> 00:45:08.489 or five minutes left. If you got anything, if not, 832 00:45:08.849 --> 00:45:11.090 I certainly can add some other things because there's a 833 00:45:11.110 --> 00:45:12.300 ton of stuff here. Welcome back. 834 00:45:13.070 --> 00:45:15.949 Yeah um i don't know if you probably didn't get 835 00:45:15.969 --> 00:45:18.309 to see when i said uh i could hear uh 836 00:45:18.849 --> 00:45:20.889 algo there was no echo. 837 00:45:20.670 --> 00:45:25.030 For me oh yeah yeah yeah so yeah okay so 838 00:45:25.050 --> 00:45:27.860 we're fixed so we're don't touch anything mike everything's fixed 839 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:28.980 okay don't touch. 840 00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:33.420 Don't don't don't say we're fixed i'm just saying. 841 00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:35.800 Okay perfect and i didn't i didn't i didn't click 842 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.460 or unclick anything after he left so Okay. So we're good. 843 00:45:38.500 --> 00:45:40.260 So I'm going to take notes on exactly how it 844 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.130 should be. This is, this is how I usually do it. 845 00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:45.429 Like I'll, I'll stress test everything audio wise, and then 846 00:45:45.449 --> 00:45:47.210 I'll just keep like a, like a sticky note of 847 00:45:47.250 --> 00:45:49.469 like how it is, but then when something changes, there's 848 00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:52.130 new audio plugins or something like a virtual audio cables, 849 00:45:52.210 --> 00:45:54.510 it messes everything up. Then I have to go back 850 00:45:54.550 --> 00:45:56.449 to square one and start over. So here we are. 851 00:45:56.829 --> 00:45:59.780 I'm going to take notes. Don't jinx us, James. Thank 852 00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:02.079 you for pointing that out. A few minutes left. If 853 00:46:02.099 --> 00:46:03.659 you got anything to add to what Algo said. 854 00:46:04.510 --> 00:46:06.650 Yeah, great call. Great to hear from him as well. 855 00:46:08.309 --> 00:46:13.269 And yeah, I think the fascinating thing about dreams and 856 00:46:13.329 --> 00:46:19.449 about just, again, reports of people's experiences is that, and 857 00:46:19.469 --> 00:46:21.250 I can't remember if I brought this up on these 858 00:46:21.289 --> 00:46:23.949 shows before or not, I have come across posts from 859 00:46:23.989 --> 00:46:28.039 people who have said, hey, I've seen the sky change 860 00:46:28.099 --> 00:46:32.539 color and I've seen lines appear, like a grid line, 861 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.210 like again, like the holodeck from Star Trek, a piece 862 00:46:37.230 --> 00:46:40.389 of it appearing in the sky for a time and 863 00:46:40.409 --> 00:46:42.190 then fading out and going back to normal again. 864 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.159 Make of that what you will. 865 00:46:44.420 --> 00:46:46.780 I have no idea what that is for sure, but 866 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.699 it's just fascinating, the possibilities there. And when it comes 867 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:56.829 to dreams, I mean, it seems like there's so many 868 00:46:57.590 --> 00:47:02.579 other anomalous experiences people can have while they're dreaming. And 869 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.420 that is something I know we've talked about before, but 870 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:08.860 I do think there are just regular dreams that we 871 00:47:08.900 --> 00:47:13.510 have that are just us, just ourselves, no other outside contact, 872 00:47:14.230 --> 00:47:18.329 no nothing else. But I also feel like there's just 873 00:47:18.969 --> 00:47:22.730 so many weird experiences people have, and I've had with them, 874 00:47:22.969 --> 00:47:26.280 with dreams that turn into, I don't know what else 875 00:47:26.300 --> 00:47:31.179 you'd call them, something else. And yeah, I've just had 876 00:47:31.219 --> 00:47:34.659 so many of those myself. that I think all that 877 00:47:34.739 --> 00:47:38.860 is out there, including possibly other entities. I had a 878 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.179 week once a while ago where I had just every night, 879 00:47:43.260 --> 00:47:44.940 four or five days in a row, five, six days 880 00:47:44.980 --> 00:47:47.679 in a row, where every time I went to sleep 881 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.409 at late night, early morning, I had nightmares. It was 882 00:47:52.429 --> 00:47:57.369 just nonstop nightmares. And I hardly ever get those. I 883 00:47:57.409 --> 00:47:59.409 hardly ever get bad dreams that are that bad to 884 00:48:00.269 --> 00:48:06.329 where

it's... I wake up so quickly and so I 885 00:48:06.369 --> 00:48:09.519 had a feeling like there was someone or something that 886 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.539 was doing that to me and as I said before 887 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.920 I ended up putting a couple different kinds of quartz 888 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:19.579 crystals under my pillow because I just had a feeling 889 00:48:20.219 --> 00:48:22.710 that's what I had to do and it stopped it 890 00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:26.210 and I don't know how or why but the point 891 00:48:26.250 --> 00:48:29.469 for that is not so much the solution but the 892 00:48:29.489 --> 00:48:31.550 problem it was a problem and I feel like it 893 00:48:31.590 --> 00:48:32.369 was not just me. 894 00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.139 Yeah, I remember that. I remember we were talking about that. 895 00:48:35.619 --> 00:48:38.039 This was a couple, a few years back, maybe, but 896 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:39.300 you and I were talking about that when it was 897 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.500 going down. And I think I even suggested, you know, 898 00:48:42.739 --> 00:48:45.480 I've read if you put some crystals under the pillow, right? 899 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.929 Like something like that. And I think amethyst, they say, 900 00:48:47.949 --> 00:48:51.969 is the dream crystal, I believe. Anyway, I'm exposing myself 901 00:48:52.010 --> 00:48:54.030 as a crystal nerd here, but I'm not that deep 902 00:48:54.070 --> 00:48:56.570 into it. But I think we did, right? Like you 903 00:48:56.610 --> 00:48:58.170 kind of went through that experiment and it did kind 904 00:48:58.210 --> 00:49:00.510 of cleanse some stuff. That's wild, man. 905 00:49:00.590 --> 00:49:00.789 Yeah. 906 00:49:02.010 --> 00:49:02.780 Yep, it was. 907 00:49:02.860 --> 00:49:05.050 It was amazing. And I've never had to do that 908 00:49:05.070 --> 00:49:06.010 before or since. 909 00:49:06.929 --> 00:49:09.050 So that's another reason why I feel like there was 910 00:49:09.070 --> 00:49:11.690 something going on there, you know, that was just that 911 00:49:11.809 --> 00:49:12.250 one time. 912 00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:15.710 Amen. Amen. Great stuff. What do you guys think? So 913 00:49:15.750 --> 00:49:18.289 we're talking dreams tonight, but not just dreams like you think. 914 00:49:18.309 --> 00:49:23.889 This is not your granddaddy's dream. These are dreams wherein entities, 915 00:49:24.929 --> 00:49:29.349 however you define them, might bring a message through. Now, 916 00:49:29.369 --> 00:49:34.349 we're talking about St. John Bosco, founder of the Salesian Society, again, 917 00:49:34.389 --> 00:49:39.809 by historical accounts, a good man, helping people. underprivileged youth 918 00:49:39.909 --> 00:49:42.250 is what the modern term would be. But he had 919 00:49:42.269 --> 00:49:45.170 this dream about this entity that came into the church 920 00:49:45.329 --> 00:49:49.519 and was broadcasting through some magical lantern into the faces 921 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:54.179 of the children nostalgia propaganda to keep them from God 922 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.230 and the sacrament itself. So what the hell's going on here? 923 00:49:57.250 --> 00:49:59.429 What do you know about dreams? How weird does this get? 924 00:49:59.829 --> 00:50:02.210 And have you ever heard of St. John Bosco? Be 925 00:50:02.829 --> 00:50:04.860 right back. More Troubled Minds on the way. Do not 926 00:50:04.909 --> 00:50:06.679 go anywhere. Nobody online. If you guys want to jump 927 00:50:06.699 --> 00:50:08.380 in here, thank you to Algo for the call. Thanks 928 00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:09.679 to James for being the glue of the show. Be 929 00:50:10.099 --> 00:50:13.179 right back. More Troubled Minds in just one moment. 930 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.480 This is Troubled Minds. Your host, Michael Strange, the master 931 00:50:28.579 --> 00:50:33.159 of the mysterious, is here to guide you through. 932 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:44.989 The shadows of the unexplained. 933 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.510 Welcome back to Troubled Minds. I'm your host, Michael Strange. 934 00:50:49.530 --> 00:50:53.639 We're streaming on YouTube, Rumble, X, Twitch, and TikTok. We 935 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.079 are broadcasting live on the Troubled Minds Radio Network. That 936 00:50:56.139 --> 00:51:00.760 is KUAP Digital Broadcasting out of Las Vegas, Nevada and 88.4 937 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.920 FM Auckland, New Zealand. Tonight, we're going deep, deep into 938 00:51:04.940 --> 00:51:08.360 the memory banks of history and talking about one St. 939 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.280 John Bosco in 1865 who had a strange dream. He 940 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.539 was in church with a lot of young people and 941 00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:19.219 a tall black figure with horns was standing near the 942 00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:22.980 altar with a magic lantern. What was this entity doing 943 00:51:23.019 --> 00:51:27.719 with the magic lantern? He was just literally shining propaganda 944 00:51:28.110 --> 00:51:30.309 into the heads of these children that should have been 945 00:51:30.789 --> 00:51:35.730 paying attention in church. It was nostalgia spaces of all 946 00:51:35.769 --> 00:51:39.710 manner of things. Games they would be playing, games they lost, 947 00:51:40.250 --> 00:51:44.090 money they had made, on and on, right? But, he says, 948 00:51:44.130 --> 00:51:46.289 Don Bosco said the device distracted them so much that 949 00:51:46.329 --> 00:51:50.659 it kept them away from the sacraments, especially communion. Now, clearly, 950 00:51:50.780 --> 00:51:52.380 if you're trying to get kids in church, this would 951 00:51:52.420 --> 00:51:55.329 be weighing heavily on your mind. But when we talk 952 00:51:55.349 --> 00:51:59.050 about dream entities and actual influence of the human mind space, 953 00:51:59.610 --> 00:52:02.230 I do wonder how much of this actually clicks. And again, 954 00:52:02.269 --> 00:52:05.130 the

description of this thing is very Slenderman meets the 955 00:52:05.150 --> 00:52:09.500 devil himself. And this magic lantern he described as part 956 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.800 of the dream looks very much through the mind's eye, 957 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.820 of course, because nobody had an actual drawing. But it's 958 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:18.599 a cell phone. It's showing you whatever you want. 959 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:20.659 Weird, right? 960 00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:24.159 It seems very, very for the times. And don't forget, 961 00:52:24.179 --> 00:52:27.000 the weird part about this, well, one of the weird parts, 962 00:52:27.019 --> 00:52:29.300 because there's a lot of them, is very simply that 963 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.059 he was not just a good man like I described, 964 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:33.360 you know, when the population suffered many of the ill 965 00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:38.219 effects of industrialization and urbanization, a liminal time, he was 966 00:52:38.340 --> 00:52:42.320 helping street children, juvenile delinquents, and helping them not just 967 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.530 find God, but find purpose. And that was very well 968 00:52:45.570 --> 00:52:48.730 said by Algorithm when he called in. Purpose is incredibly 969 00:52:48.780 --> 00:52:51.920 important for people because otherwise, what are we doing? What 970 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.340 are we doing and what is your purpose here? If 971 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.820 you can't answer that in a sentence or two, maybe 972 00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.179 it is time to find Jesus. And I mean that 973 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:02.630 in the nicest way. I'm not trying to be a 974 00:53:02.670 --> 00:53:06.170 punk or a jerk or anything. I'm just suggesting we 975 00:53:06.190 --> 00:53:09.650 should have a purpose. And that's what brings me back. 976 00:53:09.670 --> 00:53:11.610 That's why I'm here. James, anything to add? And we'll 977 00:53:11.630 --> 00:53:13.809 go to Derek in Massachusetts. Welcome back. Thanks for being patient. 978 00:53:13.969 --> 00:53:15.230 And what you got? 979 00:53:16.250 --> 00:53:19.239 Yeah, I think purpose is a good way to put it. 980 00:53:19.250 --> 00:53:22.429 I hadn't thought of it that way, but yeah, that 981 00:53:22.469 --> 00:53:23.789 works for what I do as well. 982 00:53:24.030 --> 00:53:27.010 So great calls. Looking forward to Derek and all the rest. 983 00:53:27.579 --> 00:53:32.219 Amen. And purpose is good. Find your purpose. And here's 984 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.239 an interesting conundrum, too. If you're struggling to find purpose, 985 00:53:36.860 --> 00:53:40.440 look to your nostalgia space, right? Because it feels comfy. 986 00:53:40.949 --> 00:53:43.230 It's where you came from and it's, it's where your 987 00:53:43.269 --> 00:53:48.159 most formative feelings actually adapted and made you who you are. 988 00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.920 It's why I'm here. Look, this is a nostalgia space 989 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.380 for me, not just the art bell vibe, but beyond that, 990 00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.510 the D and D vibe and mythology. And this is, 991 00:53:57.550 --> 00:54:01.050 this is where I came from. And so you recognize 992 00:54:01.090 --> 00:54:03.449 that it doesn't always have to be a trap. It 993 00:54:03.469 --> 00:54:04.829 could be something incredible. 994 00:54:05.550 --> 00:54:05.909 There you go. 995 00:54:06.269 --> 00:54:07.530 If you want to be part of the conversation, give 996 00:54:07.570 --> 00:54:12.500 us a call, 702-857-6939. Click the Discord link at TroubledMinds.org. 997 00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:14.539 We'll put you on the show. Just like this, let's 998 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.400 go to Derek in... It's just going to get... I 999 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:22.210 did it again. Massachusetts. The Night Stalker. As we just 1000 00:54:22.250 --> 00:54:23.989 get weirder and weirder and weirder. 1001 00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:26.840 I like that one too, though. You're going to combine 1002 00:54:26.860 --> 00:54:27.780 that one with the beat now. 1003 00:54:27.980 --> 00:54:28.380 Yeah, right. 1004 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.219 Kind of a mashup. 1005 00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:29.820 Totally. 1006 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.619 Derek in Massachusetts as Terrence McKenna comes on to rap. Perfect. 1007 00:54:35.619 --> 00:54:37.730 Welcome back, brother. Glad to hear your voice. Thanks for 1008 00:54:37.750 --> 00:54:40.349 popping in here. What do you know about this? This 1009 00:54:40.449 --> 00:54:43.210 is an oldie but a goodie. And I literally just 1010 00:54:43.230 --> 00:54:45.010 learned about this today. So, like I said, don't hold 1011 00:54:45.050 --> 00:54:47.639 me accountable for not being an expert. But St. John Bosco. 1012 00:54:48.329 --> 00:54:51.710 And this weird entity with the actual, what's it called, 1013 00:54:51.730 --> 00:54:54.909 the magic lantern. And the nostalgist, man, there's too much 1014 00:54:54.949 --> 00:54:57.739 going on here that's too much trouble of minds. Welcome, brother. 1015 00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:58.500 What do you got? Go right ahead. 1016 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.800 Yeah, there's a lot. I never heard this story before. 1017 00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:05.179 I only know Bosco from his more popular chocolate syrup 1018 00:55:05.460 --> 00:55:09.980 that everyone knows. You know, the St. John Bosco chocolate syrup. 1019 00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:13.289 Small joke, but yeah. I was going to go into 1020 00:55:13.889 --> 00:55:17.469 the magic lantern of the Green Lantern War and stuff. 1021 00:55:17.860 --> 00:55:21.199 Before the Green Lantern Corps was created and they turned 1022 00:55:21.219 --> 00:55:24.079 the Green Lanterns into space cops and stuff, it was 1023 00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.340 originally just a magic lantern that this guy found. It 1024 00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.360 was like a space rock he molded into this magic 1025 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.260

lantern and then it creates these constructs based on the 1026 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.960 will of the person. Whatever the mind's eye sees then becomes, 1027 00:55:35.900 --> 00:55:38.599 then just pours out of this magic lantern and it's 1028 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.739 used to fight people and stuff. It's kind of the opposite. 1029 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:48.059 positive constructs and positive illusions in order to fight evil. 1030 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.969 This demon thing in the story is using it as 1031 00:55:50.989 --> 00:55:54.170 the opposite, kind of evil constructs in order to entrance 1032 00:55:54.630 --> 00:55:57.949 good people into doing bad stuff. But then I got 1033 00:55:57.969 --> 00:56:00.030 off of that, and I decided to talk more about 1034 00:56:00.050 --> 00:56:04.090 the algorithm aspect of it. We talked about this before, 1035 00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:09.820 but at least an esoteric interpretation of the origin of 1036 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.800 the word algorithm is based on Al Ghul, the demon star. 1037 00:56:14.539 --> 00:56:19.820 In Batman mythology, Ra's Al Ghul is called the demon, 1038 00:56:21.050 --> 00:56:23.690 with Al Ghul being the demon star, the winking star, 1039 00:56:24.349 --> 00:56:27.230 and algorithm being based on that. So we talk about 1040 00:56:27.250 --> 00:56:31.769 all the time this kind of algorithmic driven decline of society. 1041 00:56:31.789 --> 00:56:35.599 People can just get... Time sucked, mind sucked by looking 1042 00:56:35.619 --> 00:56:38.099 at their phone and then all the brain rot stuff. 1043 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.010 And no, brain rot is not immediately associated with the algorithm, 1044 00:56:42.050 --> 00:56:44.849 but it's being caused by just getting your brain sucked 1045 00:56:44.909 --> 00:56:47.829 out through just constant scrolling. And the algorithm is feeding 1046 00:56:47.869 --> 00:56:50.599 that scroll constantly. And the hate clicks, the time sucks, 1047 00:56:50.619 --> 00:56:53.190 the clickbait, the thirst traps and stuff, it's like the 1048 00:56:53.269 --> 00:56:56.210 algorithm is acting as some kind of digital siren just 1049 00:56:56.230 --> 00:57:00.349 taking you down to the digital depths of your own shadow, 1050 00:57:00.409 --> 00:57:03.039 you know? That it's kind of acting the same way. 1051 00:57:03.380 --> 00:57:05.659 It's kind of a modern day interpretation. I think that's 1052 00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.980 basically what you're talking about, how it's the oldest algorithm 1053 00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:14.360 and it's kind of just showing us the... weird shadows 1054 00:57:14.449 --> 00:57:16.480 of our own mind and using it to kind of 1055 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.199 distract us completely. And it's doing a great job with it. Yeah. 1056 00:57:19.219 --> 00:57:21.539 A hundred percent. And very well. So with the sirens, 1057 00:57:21.699 --> 00:57:24.559 because that was, again, the sailors were terrified of the 1058 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:28.019 sirens because it wasn't necessarily sort of the seduction aspect 1059 00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.820 of it. It was the fact that they could, they 1060 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.780 could make them insane and literally drive them into the 1061 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:37.199 rocks themselves by disorientation, by, you know, just this other stuff, 1062 00:57:37.219 --> 00:57:38.980 you know, the sirens call was one of those things 1063 00:57:39.019 --> 00:57:40.780 you hear it and you're like, Oh crap, we're done for. 1064 00:57:41.179 --> 00:57:47.219 And suddenly, uh, A very talented Mariner is suddenly in 1065 00:57:47.260 --> 00:57:50.840 disasterville because just one siren's call takes them off of 1066 00:57:50.860 --> 00:57:53.179 their game so much because they know what comes next. 1067 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.900 And it is Davey Jones' locker, as we've talked about 1068 00:57:55.940 --> 00:57:57.539 quite a lot in the past. But yeah, Firestar, brother, 1069 00:57:57.659 --> 00:57:57.860 go ahead. 1070 00:57:57.940 --> 00:57:58.260 It is accurate. 1071 00:57:59.219 --> 00:58:03.530 And they know, at least like Odysseus and the Odyssey, 1072 00:58:03.550 --> 00:58:06.809 they know to not look. They know to not listen 1073 00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:08.670 and to cover their ears and kind of stuff, to 1074 00:58:08.710 --> 00:58:11.070 not pay attention to those things. But then once it 1075 00:58:11.110 --> 00:58:13.659 comes around, they can't help themselves. They're still like, I 1076 00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:16.099 need to do it. And how often do you catch yourself... 1077 00:58:16.579 --> 00:58:19.360 you know that you're just like doom scrolling. You know 1078 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.559 that you're just losing time and losing all this stuff 1079 00:58:21.900 --> 00:58:25.079 by just mindlessly scrolling your phone. But constantly I'm finding 1080 00:58:25.099 --> 00:58:27.139 myself just picking, like anytime a commercial pops up or 1081 00:58:27.179 --> 00:58:29.699 anytime there's kind of a lag in anything, I find 1082 00:58:29.739 --> 00:58:31.719 myself reaching for my phone and I got to stop 1083 00:58:31.739 --> 00:58:34.619 myself being like, why? I was just holding it. Like 1084 00:58:34.619 --> 00:58:37.070 10 minutes ago, I just scrolled. I just finished my, 1085 00:58:37.110 --> 00:58:39.130 like I just got to the end of my newsfeed metaphorically. 1086 00:58:39.170 --> 00:58:41.130 Like there's nothing else that's going to pop up there 1087 00:58:41.170 --> 00:58:43.369 in five minutes. Why did my mind just go, why 1088 00:58:43.389 --> 00:58:44.789 did my hand reach over to that phone? And I 1089 00:58:44.829 --> 00:58:47.579 got to like, use just mindfulness to kind of stop 1090 00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:50.780 myself from doing it but that's it's it's really a 1091 00:58:50.780 --> 00:58:53.969 dark thing um but to the nostalgia aspect of it 1092 00:58:54.489 --> 00:58:59.110 um uh like randomly

the algorithm popped up or fed 1093 00:58:59.150 --> 00:59:01.670 me today and i love how it's called like this 1094 00:59:01.730 --> 00:59:04.110 is coming up in regular conversation not just conspiracy and 1095 00:59:04.170 --> 00:59:08.369 esoteric talk but people describe your newsfeed as the algorithm 1096 00:59:08.789 --> 00:59:11.400 fed me blank it feeding me this. It feels like 1097 00:59:11.420 --> 00:59:15.239 some kind of animal farm. We're just being fed this, like, 1098 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.380 we're just pigs in a trough being fed just this 1099 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.550 empty calories of just nothingness in order to just occupy 1100 00:59:21.650 --> 00:59:25.409 our minds for who knows what. But today it fed 1101 00:59:25.449 --> 00:59:28.210 me a meme and I just scroll past it. But 1102 00:59:28.230 --> 00:59:30.550 just remind me when you talk about the show that nostalgia, 1103 00:59:30.570 --> 00:59:32.389 I think it was Freud or Young or something like that. 1104 00:59:32.409 --> 00:59:35.989 Some psychologist said that nostalgia is like a sign of 1105 00:59:36.130 --> 00:59:39.889 a collapsing civilization and stuff. And I just scroll past it. 1106 00:59:39.889 --> 00:59:41.699 I didn't look at it at all. But you're talking 1107 00:59:41.739 --> 00:59:44.840 about this kind of negative nostalgia. And I consume a 1108 00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:47.739 lot of content, but I feel like since the pandemic, 1109 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.420 maybe I've just been consuming primarily nostalgia content. And a 1110 00:59:51.460 --> 00:59:53.869 lot of, sometimes I got to like, even that's almost 1111 00:59:53.889 --> 00:59:57.760 too painful for me. And I call it like painful nostalgia, um, like, 1112 00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.980 or nostalgia with like a G, like a, like a 1113 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.550 gnosis nostalgia, um, where it's like a painful twinge to it. 1114 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:06.500 And I looked, uh, I looked up for like painful 1115 01:00:06.539 --> 01:00:10.449 nostalgia or nostalgia traps a minute ago. And this came 1116 01:00:10.469 --> 01:00:13.670 up in a psychological science.org article. In the 17th and 1117 01:00:13.750 --> 01:00:16.690 18th century, nostalgia was viewed as a medical disease, complete 1118 01:00:16.730 --> 01:00:20.409 with symptoms including weeping, irregular heartbeat, and anorexia. By the 1119 01:00:20.449 --> 01:00:23.750 20th century, nostalgia was regarded as a psychiatric disorder with 1120 01:00:23.769 --> 01:00:26.719 symptoms such as insomnia, anxiety, and depression. And it wasn't 1121 01:00:26.739 --> 01:00:30.000 until recently that scientists decided to look at it as 1122 01:00:30.539 --> 01:00:34.219 possibly a positive thing. But just to have a weaponized 1123 01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:38.289 form of nostalgia and kind of creating some kind of 1124 01:00:38.389 --> 01:00:41.110 malaise in you, some kind of like, I don't know, I'm... 1125 01:00:41.110 --> 01:00:44.809 36

and i'm getting like hit by this nostalgia like 1126 01:00:45.170 --> 01:00:47.679 the 90s kids are obsessed with nostalgia like it pops 1127 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.579 up constantly in my feed and it hurts me now 1128 01:00:50.619 --> 01:00:52.519 it's like it had this weird painful twinge and i 1129 01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.219 don't know it's like it's uh i can see how 1130 01:00:55.260 --> 01:00:58.239 it could be used kind of as this like representation 1131 01:00:58.260 --> 01:01:01.219 that you're talking about and kind of a um a 1132 01:01:01.260 --> 01:01:04.340 good distraction or like a good method of distraction if 1133 01:01:04.380 --> 01:01:06.719 you wanted to like kind of take people like take 1134 01:01:06.739 --> 01:01:09.280 people's attention away i'm rambling but anything about that no. 1135 01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:11.440 You're good yeah and that's that's really the point here 1136 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.840 is that so that that oldest algorithm is the distraction 1137 01:01:14.860 --> 01:01:17.110 space and recognize that it can it can come from 1138 01:01:17.389 --> 01:01:19.710 you know if you're if you're seeking purpose like we 1139 01:01:19.750 --> 01:01:23.690 were describing there that it can come from jogging you 1140 01:01:23.730 --> 01:01:25.889 from the purpose and it doesn't necessarily have to be 1141 01:01:25.929 --> 01:01:27.610 you know the devil made me do it or this 1142 01:01:27.630 --> 01:01:30.530 you know this entity with the the spooky things and the, 1143 01:01:30.670 --> 01:01:32.710 you know, the, the, the, the cell phone shining it 1144 01:01:32.769 --> 01:01:35.429 on you, whatever this thing was, a magic lantern. It doesn't, 1145 01:01:36.090 --> 01:01:39.039 it matters less because it's, it's really under your control. 1146 01:01:39.099 --> 01:01:42.719 It's under my control, your personal control. And so we're, 1147 01:01:42.900 --> 01:01:45.260 we're basically fighting with ourself. And when you, when you 1148 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:48.059 say the devil made me do it, the old trope 1149 01:01:48.099 --> 01:01:50.360 of the devil on one shoulder, the angel on the 1150 01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.269 other is constantly trying to guide you through the, just 1151 01:01:54.309 --> 01:01:57.489 the ridiculousness of what life is in itself, just dealing 1152 01:01:57.510 --> 01:02:00.159 with other people all the time. But on top of that, 1153 01:02:00.179 --> 01:02:06.639 any distraction at all is devoid of purpose. Because like 1154 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.989 you said, it's basically empty calories of content. And so 1155 01:02:10.030 --> 01:02:12.769 we do this. And many of you know, like you said, 1156 01:02:12.789 --> 01:02:16.949 the thirst traps, I try very hard to keep bikini 1157 01:02:16.969 --> 01:02:19.130 pics out of my feeds and stuff because the second 1158 01:02:19.150 --> 01:02:21.820 you click on it, it's crazy. The second you click 1159 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:26.480 on one

Salma Hayek thing, just suddenly the whole Google 1160 01:02:26.500 --> 01:02:28.400 feed is just showing you like, I'm like, who are 1161 01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.039 these people? I'm like, oh, those boobs are nice. You 1162 01:02:31.059 --> 01:02:32.719 know what I mean? It's just like, here we go. 1163 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.900 So now you have to go scrub the whole feed again. 1164 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:36.659 You're just like, come on, stop it. So I try 1165 01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:38.920 very hard to just keep that stuff out because the 1166 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.139 second you let it in, it's a flood. And the 1167 01:02:41.179 --> 01:02:43.550 second it's a flood, now it's a challenge and you 1168 01:02:43.570 --> 01:02:46.429 get distracted, stupid, and it's just like, we're human. And 1169 01:02:46.489 --> 01:02:48.769 it's like, come on now, stop it. But this is 1170 01:02:48.809 --> 01:02:51.789 the point is that we are kind of stuck. And 1171 01:02:51.889 --> 01:02:55.110 based on that algorithmic influence that you're describing, that I'm describing, 1172 01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.590 And look, why aren't we pushed into the algorithm? We 1173 01:03:00.630 --> 01:03:05.130 talk about so many incredible things that nobody touches. Thank 1174 01:03:05.170 --> 01:03:06.889 you to Algo for pointing out, you know, we are 1175 01:03:06.929 --> 01:03:09.710 the podcaster going where no podcaster has gone before. That's 1176 01:03:09.750 --> 01:03:12.849 the point of this. Like we're taught, we're pressing the 1177 01:03:13.010 --> 01:03:17.469 envelope of what modern society is and looks like. in, 1178 01:03:17.590 --> 01:03:20.889 in conversation. And, and well, you know, we get, you know, 1179 01:03:20.909 --> 01:03:22.590 you get a new follower here or there. I mean, 1180 01:03:22.630 --> 01:03:25.550 like what the hell is going on? Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, 1181 01:03:25.590 --> 01:03:25.949 go ahead. 1182 01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:27.760 Go ahead. But like to that point, like there's, there's 1183 01:03:27.780 --> 01:03:30.039 a lot of like dark tech, dark tactics you can 1184 01:03:30.059 --> 01:03:32.119 then use to try to get yourself into that algorithm. 1185 01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.139 And people are using it all the time by using 1186 01:03:34.179 --> 01:03:38.489 these like ridiculous thumbnails of like people's faces. Uh, like 1187 01:03:38.510 --> 01:03:41.760 today in the nerd world, uh, yesterday whatever it was 1188 01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.780 days are all blurring together james gunn was fired um 1189 01:03:44.820 --> 01:03:46.840 so now it's all kind of the snyder people are 1190 01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:48.460 in a tizzy just the gun people are in a 1191 01:03:48.500 --> 01:03:52.179 tizzy there's a war amongst the superhero dc world and 1192 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:55.570 stuff so all the thumbnails become just ai pictures of 1193 01:03:55.630 --> 01:03:58.730 james gunn red face and crying or like people fight 1194

01:03:58.750 --> 01:04:01.389 like like jack snyder punching james gunn and some kind 1195 01:04:01.409 --> 01:04:04.329 of like picture or whatever and or or the other 1196 01:04:04.349 --> 01:04:07.239 version of that is just like showing a girl in 1197 01:04:07.260 --> 01:04:11.239 a bikini on these pictures or or like pushing the 1198 01:04:11.300 --> 01:04:13.400 fights and stuff that they use the lowest common denominator 1199 01:04:13.420 --> 01:04:16.519 that they use these like sticky things like a hate 1200 01:04:16.579 --> 01:04:19.320 click like a rage bait like a thirst trap and 1201 01:04:19.340 --> 01:04:21.769 these things in order to get your attention so you're 1202 01:04:21.789 --> 01:04:23.369 like well what am i like who cares if i'm 1203 01:04:23.409 --> 01:04:24.630 doing it i mean i got to try to like 1204 01:04:24.989 --> 01:04:27.070 get some get some clicks here somewhere so whatever i 1205 01:04:27.110 --> 01:04:28.909 mean who cares if i'm using a little bit of 1206 01:04:28.929 --> 01:04:30.969 a rage baby thumbnail whatever it's just i'm just one 1207 01:04:31.010 --> 01:04:33.030 person i'm trying to get in the algorithm and that's 1208 01:04:33.090 --> 01:04:42.329 fine but if crank it up and I'm sure people's 1209 01:04:42.369 --> 01:04:46.389 rage bait and hate clicking like stuff is more potent 1210 01:04:46.409 --> 01:04:48.710 than it was a few years ago because as the 1211 01:04:48.769 --> 01:04:51.139 climate changes you have to stick out more and more 1212 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.480 and just this weird doom loop you know and like 1213 01:04:55.019 --> 01:04:57.139 another type of doom loop would be the nostalgia doom 1214 01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.000 loop and people like pointed Hollywood being like they're not 1215 01:05:00.019 --> 01:05:05.260 making anything new and I don't know. What's the cause 1216 01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:07.429 of that? Is that because everything's a reboot and a 1217 01:05:07.429 --> 01:05:11.050 remake and stuff? And why is that? Is that because 1218 01:05:11.269 --> 01:05:13.989 people aren't happy in the current time? So then they're 1219 01:05:14.010 --> 01:05:16.989 chasing these past pleasures and these past moments where they 1220 01:05:17.010 --> 01:05:20.360 felt happier. And then in that chase to the past, 1221 01:05:20.500 --> 01:05:23.500 ignoring the present, which then in turn makes the present worse. 1222 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:26.139 So then you look to the past further and then 1223 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.539 ignore the present more and then look to the past 1224 01:05:28.579 --> 01:05:30.460 further and it just creates this doom loop where where 1225 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:35.050 you're ignoring the present and it's correct. Like, I don't know. Um, 1226 01:05:35.650 --> 01:05:37.730 the church would say you're, it just creates this doom 1227 01:05:37.750 --> 01:05:40.110 loop where you're like denying yourself the Holy spirit or whatever. 1228 01:05:40.139 --> 01:05:42.119 That's not where I'm going, but that's just how I'm 1229 01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.179 sure it was framed back in the day. 1230 01:05:45.380 --> 01:05:48.840 And I can see that, too. Like, not a religious guy. Again, 1231 01:05:48.860 --> 01:05:53.119 you know, more spiritual than religious, sort of detached from 1232 01:05:53.139 --> 01:05:56.550 those control mechanisms. But I see it, you know, like 1233 01:05:56.610 --> 01:05:59.670 I said, you all need to find Jesus. And I mean, 1234 01:05:59.750 --> 01:06:02.570 like I said, I don't mean to be disrespectful with that. 1235 01:06:02.940 --> 01:06:07.530 I'm saying that purpose is important. And if Jesus is purpose, 1236 01:06:07.550 --> 01:06:10.769 then by all means, go get it. Like go, absolutely 1237 01:06:10.809 --> 01:06:12.909 go get it. And so it does like, that stuff 1238 01:06:12.929 --> 01:06:15.110 doesn't bother me. And I get that. It's so polarized 1239 01:06:15.150 --> 01:06:18.090 today that the second you say you invoke Jesus, people 1240 01:06:18.110 --> 01:06:21.570 get mad. Or the second you don't, people get mad. Look, 1241 01:06:21.590 --> 01:06:24.670 I don't care. Get mad. You have, you have my 1242 01:06:24.730 --> 01:06:27.489 official permission to just get mad, but recognize it has 1243 01:06:27.530 --> 01:06:28.949 nothing to do with me. It has everything to do 1244 01:06:28.989 --> 01:06:31.429 with you if you're mad. So just stop being mad, 1245 01:06:31.489 --> 01:06:33.489 you know, like, and I know it's easy to say, 1246 01:06:33.989 --> 01:06:37.510 when we're doom scrolling and the doom is again, accumulating 1247 01:06:37.570 --> 01:06:40.389 as part of this, this process. But Hey, I mean, 1248 01:06:40.429 --> 01:06:43.929 purpose is good. Purpose is good, man. Look, look, you 1249 01:06:43.949 --> 01:06:46.199 have a purpose here. I have a purpose here. James 1250 01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:48.340 has a purpose. All the amazing people that are part 1251 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.659 of this, there's a purpose here, but you recognize what, 1252 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:55.559 where that purpose comes from. It comes from an unyielding 1253 01:06:55.780 --> 01:06:58.679 effort to press that purpose forward. You have, you have 1254 01:06:58.699 --> 01:07:00.300 to have a vision. You have to have faith in 1255 01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.389 the vision. And look, I could do all the dirty 1256 01:07:03.449 --> 01:07:05.309 tricks you're describing. I was talking about this a couple 1257 01:07:05.329 --> 01:07:06.760 of shows ago. I don't know if you've been listening, but... 1258 01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:11.099 the dumb YouTube, you know, Oh, like the, like this 1259 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.909 type of stuff, like the YouTube face and like the 1260 01:07:14.110 --> 01:07:17.610 dirty tricks and the, you know, like the, why? Like, 1261 01:07:17.849 --> 01:07:19.190 like really sweating, whatever. 1262 01:07:19.250 --> 01:07:19.510 Yeah. 1263

01:07:19.550 --> 01:07:22.050 So you stand out, but then the people that come 1264 01:07:22.090 --> 01:07:25.130 are like, Oh, you know, a boomer slop or what, 1265 01:07:25.150 --> 01:07:26.869 you know, and they could, because, because they want like 1266 01:07:26.949 --> 01:07:29.860 a 12 second dopamine hit because that's what they're used 1267 01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:31.699 to when they get that type of thumbnail. Like you 1268 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.099 can play those dirty tricks, but do they last i 1269 01:07:35.139 --> 01:07:37.920 mean you know they certainly brain rot everybody but anyway 1270 01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:40.139 i digress but go ahead sorry about. 1271 01:07:40.019 --> 01:07:46.809 That again those things are small in or like are 1272 01:07:46.869 --> 01:07:49.090 fine in like these small cases and stuff but then 1273 01:07:49.550 --> 01:07:51.989 so like you can be you can just justify it 1274 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.139 yourself well i gotta try to compete or what's a 1275 01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:56.619 small thing or just what's a little bit provocative of 1276 01:07:56.659 --> 01:08:02.639 a thumbnail what's YouTube feed or whatever. Just every single thing. 1277 01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:07.159 And there's an entire economy of nerd content where they're 1278 01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:11.690 just targeting those people. And it's all images like that. 1279 01:08:11.730 --> 01:08:14.670 It's all kind of hate, rage bait stuff mixed with 1280 01:08:14.829 --> 01:08:17.930 the occasional cleavage pick and stuff tossed in there. It's 1281 01:08:17.949 --> 01:08:21.329 really some really siren stuff. Which is the religious thing. 1282 01:08:22.550 --> 01:08:24.850 I think that's kind of the metaphor that can be 1283 01:08:24.949 --> 01:08:27.039 used with the Holy Spirit. I was listening to Grant 1284 01:08:27.060 --> 01:08:30.439 Morrison talk about this. But he's like... The point, kind 1285 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.659 of the origin of the Holy Spirit is that we're 1286 01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.449 surrounded and it ties into the muses and where ideas 1287 01:08:36.470 --> 01:08:40.850 come from and stuff, but like that witchcraft or spellcraft 1288 01:08:41.189 --> 01:08:44.689 and these rituals and trying to invoke entities is that 1289 01:08:44.729 --> 01:08:49.569 there's like, quote unquote, spirits or energies or like intelligences 1290 01:08:49.689 --> 01:08:52.949 all around us and when you're trying to like talk 1291 01:08:52.989 --> 01:08:55.350 to Hermes or talk to these ancient gods or whatever 1292 01:08:55.630 --> 01:08:58.789 you're essentially clearing the room of anything besides these energies 1293 01:08:58.970 --> 01:09:01.300 to try to like get a jolt of the hermes 1294 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:02.979 energy if you're trying to like be a writer or 1295 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:04.680 something like that or these different types of energies if 1296 01:09:04.699 --> 01:09:08.119 you want to do a task but he's like that's 1297 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:10.819 kind of an active process but if you're in a 1298 01:09:10.859 --> 01:09:13.640 passive process these energies are coming in and out of 1299 01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:15.729 you all the time whether you like it or not 1300 01:09:16.270 --> 01:09:20.399 so you have to kind of being mindful or being 1301 01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:23.960 active or like guarding yourself in that process was equated 1302 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.850 with the Holy Spirit that to choose what you want, 1303 01:09:28.510 --> 01:09:31.449 what kind of news or what kind of inspiration is 1304 01:09:32.229 --> 01:09:35.840 the word that you want in you. or it'll be 1305 01:09:35.859 --> 01:09:39.199 chosen for you that like you that you're constantly being 1306 01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:42.430 divinely quote-unquote inspired by these energies all of the time 1307 01:09:42.829 --> 01:09:45.670 so unless you choose the quote-unquote holy spirit just for 1308 01:09:45.689 --> 01:09:49.310 the metaphor then these other spirits these other distractions these 1309 01:09:49.390 --> 01:09:52.090 other forces will come and take you to places that 1310 01:09:52.409 --> 01:09:56.380 you might not necessarily want to go um i don't 1311 01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:57.800 know it's kind of the kind of the armor of 1312 01:09:57.859 --> 01:09:59.949 god thing you talk about a little bit Yeah, no. 1313 01:10:00.100 --> 01:10:02.619 And I think it's incredibly important. And it plays whether 1314 01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.539 you're talking about AI psychosis, whether you're talking about purpose, 1315 01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.520 whether you're talking about any of this stuff, like, like, Hey, 1316 01:10:08.619 --> 01:10:10.340 if you, if you feel, if you sit in this 1317 01:10:10.420 --> 01:10:13.079 world and you feel like you don't belong here, you're 1318 01:10:13.100 --> 01:10:15.380 doing something wrong. There's something out of alignment because I 1319 01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:17.840 promise you, and I keep saying this, this is your 1320 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.779 world too. You're here and you belong here. You're here 1321 01:10:20.819 --> 01:10:23.539 for a reason. So if you are fumbling, trying to 1322 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:27.020 find that reason, Hey, come hang out. Come talk to us. 1323 01:10:27.550 --> 01:10:31.210 I'm not saying there's a miracle cure here, but also 1324 01:10:31.550 --> 01:10:33.550 there's a lot of purpose going around. There's a lot 1325 01:10:33.569 --> 01:10:36.229 of ideas. There's a lot of things that we recognize 1326 01:10:36.270 --> 01:10:39.869 together and can combat together as a group. It's important. 1327 01:10:39.890 --> 01:10:41.869 This stuff is really important. So do find that armor 1328 01:10:41.890 --> 01:10:45.649 of God, however you find it. And just because the 1329 01:10:45.729 --> 01:10:48.109 AI tells you something, don't take it as truth because 1330 01:10:48.149 --> 01:10:49.850 it still

hallucinates quite a bit. 1331 01:10:50.670 --> 01:10:52.550 Yeah, and try to be mindful of the fact that 1332 01:10:52.569 --> 01:10:58.140 there might be these like horned metaphorical demons around with 1333 01:10:58.180 --> 01:11:00.890 these metaphorical magic lanterns all around trying to get your 1334 01:11:00.899 --> 01:11:03.880 attention so that if you're not actively paying attention to 1335 01:11:03.899 --> 01:11:06.380 where you're paying attention i mean like a better word 1336 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.649 to where your attention goes and it's more easily like 1337 01:11:09.770 --> 01:11:12.270 gobbled up so i watch so much tv and i 1338 01:11:12.310 --> 01:11:14.050 watch so many movies and stuff and i know all 1339 01:11:14.090 --> 01:11:17.850 the negative aspects of hollywood but the way i kind 1340 01:11:17.890 --> 01:11:19.970 of like justify it to myself is that well you 1341 01:11:19.989 --> 01:11:23.520 can be passively watching and then all these like rituals 1342 01:11:23.569 --> 01:11:26.539 and these like subliminal messages and stuff will just like 1343 01:11:26.579 --> 01:11:28.119 flow right into you but if you at least if 1344 01:11:28.140 --> 01:11:35.960 you're aware that it's into your head, then maybe you 1345 01:11:35.979 --> 01:11:37.560 can try to avoid it a little bit. That's the 1346 01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:43.439 exoteric versus esoteric interpretation of it. But to the magic 1347 01:11:43.470 --> 01:11:46.909 lantern thing, to the lantern magicka part of the write-up, 1348 01:11:47.390 --> 01:11:52.930 it reminded me of like the idea of Hollywood and 1349 01:11:52.949 --> 01:11:56.359 like a magic wand and stuff. So when I looked 1350 01:11:56.439 --> 01:12:00.399 up Lanterna Magica, it's obviously Latin for magic lantern. It's 1351 01:12:00.420 --> 01:12:03.039 an early type of image projector that served as a 1352 01:12:03.100 --> 01:12:08.319 direct historical precursor to modern cinema. So modern cinema, Hollywood 1353 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:13.010 is a massive distraction. And like esoterically, they talk about 1354 01:12:13.310 --> 01:12:16.430 Hollywood as the wood of the holly tree being used 1355 01:12:16.590 --> 01:12:21.369 for magic wands. Um, so the, uh, and I just looked, 1356 01:12:21.430 --> 01:12:23.850 I asked the AI to help me, um, like give 1357 01:12:23.869 --> 01:12:25.609 me the rundown for the wood of the Holly tree thing. 1358 01:12:26.170 --> 01:12:31.279 So Holly is, uh, Lex, um, Aquifolium was sacred to 1359 01:12:31.300 --> 01:12:34.340 Druids in, uh, in Roman Saturnalia. It's wood was considered 1360 01:12:34.380 --> 01:12:36.539 one of the best for making magic wands along with 1361 01:12:36.619 --> 01:12:39.279 Oak and Willow because it's pale, hard and evergreen. It 1362 01:12:39.300 --> 01:12:41.739 stays alive in winter when other trees look dead. A 1363 01:12:41.779 --> 01:12:44.649 magic wand is just a tool for directing attention and will, uh, 1364 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.430 So a wand made of Hollywood is a tool to 1365 01:12:47.510 --> 01:12:51.550 fascinate or entrance. And then the Latin word fascinum means 1366 01:12:51.850 --> 01:12:56.909 both spell into fascinate. So fascinum, also fascinus, is a 1367 01:12:56.949 --> 01:13:00.850 Latin word meaning an amulet, a spell, witchcraft, or a 1368 01:13:00.930 --> 01:13:03.770 phallus-shaped charm used in ancient Roman religion. So this phas, 1369 01:13:03.829 --> 01:13:06.250 like a magic lantern, this thing that the demon had, 1370 01:13:06.670 --> 01:13:10.289 would be an example of a fascinum, some kind of amulet, spell, 1371 01:13:10.750 --> 01:13:13.109 piece of magic, a piece of witchcraft, or whatever, anything 1372 01:13:13.149 --> 01:13:18.079 to entrance and distract. So Hollywood, therefore it's a forest 1373 01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:21.180 of wands pointed at the audience to entrance or distract. 1374 01:13:21.779 --> 01:13:24.079 And then Hollywood uses like mass media in terms like 1375 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:29.569 program or broadcast, like spellcast, um, in order to entrance 1376 01:13:29.630 --> 01:13:33.590 and to, to fascinate stuff. So, um, I don't know 1377 01:13:33.609 --> 01:13:36.170 where I'm going with that other than like just giant 1378 01:13:36.590 --> 01:13:38.960 magic lanterns all over the place. And we have a, 1379 01:13:39.270 --> 01:13:42.359 like the Hollywood, like the cinema one, the mass media 1380 01:13:42.420 --> 01:13:43.880 one has been going on for a hundred years, but 1381 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:48.079 now we have these even more powerful magic lanterns. 1382 01:13:48.380 --> 01:13:51.640 Now they call it IMAX. They've pumped it up to 1383 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.859 4k and increase the light, the light power by 10 1384 01:13:54.859 --> 01:13:56.510 X and it's now called IMAX. 1385 01:13:57.289 --> 01:13:59.720 Yeah. And gave us, gave us pocket ones that have a, 1386 01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:02.039 have these magic lanterns in our, in our own homes, 1387 01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:04.220 all over the place and in our pockets and everywhere. 1388 01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:06.600 We can't, we can't, we can't, uh, go down the 1389 01:14:06.619 --> 01:14:09.180 street without seeing it like 10 different types of magic 1390 01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:12.319 lanterns at all times. Crazy world. Like I would have 1391 01:14:12.340 --> 01:14:13.779 been a Bosco would have been, would have been a, 1392 01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:15.689 we've been screaming. 1393 01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:19.189 Oh yeah. He's rolling in his grave. That's absolutely for certain. 1394 01:14:19.270 --> 01:14:21.350 He's like, that, that was in my dream. 1395 01:14:22.189 --> 01:14:22.550 Yeah. 1396 01:14:23.010 --> 01:14:24.409 And everybody has one in their pocket. 1397 01:14:24.449 --> 01:14:25.010 Yeah, totally. 1398 01:14:25.090 --> 01:14:25.369 Totally. 1399 01:14:26.020 --> 01:14:26.979 That's all I got, though. 1400 01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:27.579

You're the best. 1401 01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:27.939 You're the best. 1402 01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:29.739 I'm glad to hear your voice. Thanks for popping back 1403 01:14:29.779 --> 01:14:32.460 in here. You're the best. Always a pleasure. Derek in Massachusetts, 1404 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:34.100 The Night Stalker. Please give him a follow. You know 1405 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:36.899 how to do that. I say it all the time. 1406 01:14:37.060 --> 01:14:39.159 Let's help our friends. That's what this is all about. 1407 01:14:39.590 --> 01:14:44.510 Growing together, sharing ideas, sticking our neck out for society, 1408 01:14:44.550 --> 01:14:46.949 for ourselves. Like I said, this is your world, too. 1409 01:14:47.850 --> 01:14:50.880 In your world, you should be following Derek in Massachusetts, 1410 01:14:50.939 --> 01:14:53.939 The Night Stalker. Troubleminds.org. Scroll down just a little bit. 1411 01:14:54.390 --> 01:14:57.789 It's a, it's under N follow Night Stalker. It's right there, 1412 01:14:58.109 --> 01:15:00.149 right above my head. Please, please give him a follow 1413 01:15:00.189 --> 01:15:02.329 in all the places. And, uh, he's got a YouTube channel. 1414 01:15:02.350 --> 01:15:04.800 It's free. Did I mention it's free? Did I mention 1415 01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:07.560 it's free? Please go give Derek a follow. Like I said, 1416 01:15:07.579 --> 01:15:09.159 at this point, if you're, you've been listening to the 1417 01:15:09.180 --> 01:15:11.260 show for a long time and you're not following all 1418 01:15:11.300 --> 01:15:15.060 these amazing people, Derek included Derek specifically, he just called, please, 1419 01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.039 please do it. You're hurting my feelings. Don't, uh, don't 1420 01:15:18.060 --> 01:15:20.970 hurt my feelings. It's a, it's a bad thing. I, um, 1421 01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:24.680 Mike with his feelings hurt is not where you want 1422 01:15:24.699 --> 01:15:27.960 to be. In any case, we're talking, look, this is 1423 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.119 weird because it's, we're talking not just dreams. We're talking 1424 01:15:31.140 --> 01:15:33.739 the nostalgia space. We're talking again, the armor of God. 1425 01:15:33.779 --> 01:15:37.250 We're talking, find Jesus, but not in the way you think, 1426 01:15:37.289 --> 01:15:39.689 but also maybe, you know, you don't have to be 1427 01:15:39.729 --> 01:15:42.189 religious at all to say the term and the Christ 1428 01:15:42.250 --> 01:15:45.930 consciousness certainly plays here, but we're talking about purpose and 1429 01:15:45.949 --> 01:15:49.579 what purpose means to you. And again, Don't forget, this 1430 01:15:49.739 --> 01:15:52.439 is your world, too. We're talking about St. John Bosco, 1431 01:15:52.500 --> 01:15:55.859 founder of the Salesian Society. By historical accounts, a good 1432 01:15:55.899 --> 01:15:58.260 man helping the youth, the troubled youth of the world. 1433 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:00.890 What do you know about it? And how weird does 1434 01:16:00.939 --> 01:16:04.409 it get when you talk about dream incursions, entities from 1435 01:16:04.430 --> 01:16:08.529 the other side, and distractions of the cosmic sense? This 1436 01:16:08.590 --> 01:16:11.090 is Troubled Minds. I'm Michael Strange. Be right back. More 1437 01:16:11.170 --> 01:16:12.489 on the way. Do not go anywhere. 1438 01:16:24.449 --> 01:16:28.430 This is Troubled Minds. Your host, Michael Strange, the master 1439 01:16:28.470 --> 01:16:30.909 of the mysterious, is here to guide you through the 1440 01:16:30.949 --> 01:16:32.119 shadows of the unexplained. 1441 01:16:46.260 --> 01:16:51.020 Welcome back to Troubled Minds. All the places, all the things, yada, yada. Troubledminds.org. 1442 01:16:51.500 --> 01:16:53.579 That's where you find all the information about what we're 1443 01:16:53.619 --> 01:16:56.060 doing here. You can follow the sub stack from there. 1444 01:16:56.750 --> 01:17:01.489 Check out over 1,200 episodes. Can you believe we're at 1,200 episodes? 1445 01:17:01.590 --> 01:17:07.310 My God. That's almost embarrassing. Eight years now? I lost count. 1446 01:17:07.500 --> 01:17:09.840 Are we coming up on 10? I don't know. 1,200 1447 01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:16.039 episodes of TroubledMinds.org. It's all there. And check out TroubledMinds.tv 1448 01:17:16.220 --> 01:17:19.760 as well. Lots of things happening. Tonight we're talking, look, 1449 01:17:19.899 --> 01:17:23.449 I'm calling this, what am I calling this? The oldest algorithm, 1450 01:17:23.810 --> 01:17:26.930 a lantern at the rail. And we're basing this on 1451 01:17:26.970 --> 01:17:30.270 the dream that one St. John Bosco had, where he 1452 01:17:31.010 --> 01:17:36.800 envisioned this entity that's Slenderman mixed with the devil. just 1453 01:17:37.380 --> 01:17:40.460 shining this magic lantern as he described it, because there 1454 01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.260 were no cell phones back then, but a very cell 1455 01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:47.060 phone-like device shining it into the faces of children as 1456 01:17:47.100 --> 01:17:51.060 they were in church, blocking them from the sacrament itself. Now, 1457 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.239 like I said, you don't have to be religious to 1458 01:17:53.300 --> 01:17:55.960 understand the implication of what this is and what this means, 1459 01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:01.260 because clearly the distraction space from purpose itself is what 1460 01:18:01.300 --> 01:18:03.539 we're talking about. But not just that, the dream realm 1461 01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:10.539 is Now, looking at this as hindsight 2020, was this 1462 01:18:10.779 --> 01:18:15.819 thing we're looking at a prophetic dream? Because I wonder. 1463 01:18:16.590 --> 01:18:19.649 It seems very cell phone-esque when we're talking about this 1464 01:18:19.710 --> 01:18:24.369 magic lantern as described. And again, back to the terminology 1465 01:18:24.390 --> 01:18:27.529 of the day, it had been invented around this time

1466 01:18:27.770 --> 01:18:29.729 and it had been in limited use, so the term 1467 01:18:29.770 --> 01:18:32.720 magic lantern was actually a thing. Links in the description 1468 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:35.060 if you want to fact check me on that. But 1469 01:18:36.420 --> 01:18:40.859 this happened in his dreams. And it was not specifically 1470 01:18:41.060 --> 01:18:43.789 the magic lantern of the technological space of the time. 1471 01:18:43.810 --> 01:18:49.949 It seemed almost cell phone-esque. Broadcasting propaganda into the faces 1472 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:55.140 of children to distract them from purpose itself. Weird, right? 1473 01:18:55.979 --> 01:18:56.279 Or nah. 1474 01:18:56.619 --> 01:18:56.939 I don't know. 1475 01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:00.180 You tell me. Jameson, anything to add to what Derek 1476 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.079 said there? Or any ideas that you have? Welcome, and 1477 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:05.020 thanks for being patient and cool and chill and the 1478 01:19:05.060 --> 01:19:07.500 best as you are. What do you got for us tonight? 1479 01:19:07.539 --> 01:19:07.720 Go ahead. 1480 01:19:09.550 --> 01:19:10.289 No, you're the best. 1481 01:19:10.529 --> 01:19:13.470 But also Derek is the best. But, you know, great call. 1482 01:19:13.489 --> 01:19:17.250 I'm joking, but not joking. But great call from Derek. 1483 01:19:17.390 --> 01:19:20.270 And I thought he was going to say Bosco Sticks 1484 01:19:20.289 --> 01:19:23.489 when he mentioned Bosco. He has another reference to that 1485 01:19:23.510 --> 01:19:24.880 name because that's the only place I've ever heard of 1486 01:19:24.939 --> 01:19:29.899 them before. It's kind of like bread, cheese stick things, 1487 01:19:29.939 --> 01:19:36.779 which are just... They're sirens in their own way, unfortunately. But, yeah, 1488 01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:40.520 it's just really... I think that the prophetic dream thing 1489 01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:44.560 is a thing that people experience. I know I've had 1490 01:19:44.619 --> 01:19:47.170 dreams of places I've been to before. Well, no, I've 1491 01:19:47.189 --> 01:19:49.970 been to... I've had dreams before of places I've been 1492 01:19:50.050 --> 01:19:53.890 to in the dream, didn't recognize it, went there in 1493 01:19:53.930 --> 01:19:56.409 person months or years after the fact. 1494 01:19:57.310 --> 01:19:58.189 So there's some. 1495 01:19:58.369 --> 01:20:00.729 Again, just another example of one of the weird things 1496 01:20:00.789 --> 01:20:04.770 that people... And I've heard similar cases before, experiences before. 1497 01:20:04.869 --> 01:20:08.739 So another example of how weird... um the dream space 1498 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:09.899 can be but that's it for. 1499 01:20:09.819 --> 01:20:14.479 Now absolutely you're the best and uh dreams like like 1500 01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:16.739 i said you we dreams into anything and suddenly a 1501 01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:20.899 compelling narrative presents itself what do you know i'm calling 1502 01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:23.560 it a lantern at the rail the oldest algorithm and 1503 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.100 of course that would certainly just be the distraction space 1504 01:20:26.810 --> 01:20:29.430 very simply if you want to you know look at 1505 01:20:29.470 --> 01:20:31.090 all look at all these words go read the write-up 1506 01:20:31.130 --> 01:20:34.340 it's actually very good But, you know, words, words, words, 1507 01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.020 what do they say in Beavis and Butthead? You know, 1508 01:20:36.050 --> 01:20:38.229 they look at a thing and go, words, words, words. 1509 01:20:38.270 --> 01:20:41.590 But very simply, the distraction space is the oldest algorithm. 1510 01:20:42.270 --> 01:20:49.630 And distracting you from what? From what? Clearly, we stated 1511 01:20:49.689 --> 01:20:53.500 it several times tonight, your purpose. So what is your purpose? 1512 01:20:53.739 --> 01:20:58.920 Have you asked yourself what that is? Have you revisited recently? 1513 01:20:58.939 --> 01:21:01.380 Yeah. 1514 01:21:01.710 --> 01:21:04.289 I think it's important. Like I said, I make 40 1515 01:21:04.289 --> 01:21:06.869 cents a show or something. So I'm not here to 1516 01:21:06.909 --> 01:21:08.750 get rich and famous and laid and all the things. 1517 01:21:09.550 --> 01:21:12.329 I'm not expecting to be Leo DiCaprio on a yacht 1518 01:21:12.369 --> 01:21:18.649 with supermodels. I'm doing something a little different. I think 1519 01:21:18.670 --> 01:21:20.909 it's important. Do you? 1520 01:21:20.930 --> 01:21:22.409 702-857-6939. 1521 01:21:23.750 --> 01:21:26.640 Click the Discord link at TroubleMinds.org. We'll put you on 1522 01:21:26.649 --> 01:21:28.569 the show. It's as easy as that. Let's go to 1523 01:21:28.609 --> 01:21:30.409 Joe in Florida. What's up, brother? You're on Trouble Minds 1524 01:21:30.430 --> 01:21:32.670 with Mike and James. How are you, sir? Welcome. Go 1525 01:21:32.710 --> 01:21:32.970 right ahead. 1526 01:21:33.210 --> 01:21:33.710 Good evening. 1527 01:21:33.869 --> 01:21:34.810 Can you guys hear me okay? 1528 01:21:35.050 --> 01:21:35.310 Yes, sir. 1529 01:21:35.489 --> 01:21:35.890 Loud and clear. 1530 01:21:37.409 --> 01:21:41.170 Good topic. A little bit late to the show. Great call, Derek, 1531 01:21:41.409 --> 01:21:44.829 and all the other calls. I had seen something a 1532 01:21:44.850 --> 01:21:47.390 couple of weeks ago on this Father Bosco, I believe. 1533 01:21:49.789 --> 01:21:52.609 First off, you know, we were talking about simulation theory earlier. 1534 01:21:52.630 --> 01:21:54.449 Big bang. 1535 01:21:55.369 --> 01:21:58.399 We've all said it before. there was a Big Bang, 1536 01:21:58.869 --> 01:22:04.449 whether it was electronic, like turning a TV on, or, 1537 01:22:04.729 --> 01:22:08.430 you know, in space, however you define it, it's possible 1538 01:22:08.449 --> 01:22:15.590 that all probabilities in this timeline have already

occurred. So 1539 01:22:16.550 --> 01:22:19.850 some people have deja vu, or they might see possible futures, 1540 01:22:21.340 --> 01:22:25.659 like this priest. But it's very interesting, the black screen 1541 01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:31.069 mirror We've talked about all those things. What I find 1542 01:22:31.109 --> 01:22:33.670 kind of funny is I've been reading, it's a very 1543 01:22:33.729 --> 01:22:37.890 dry reading, but it's a book called We Have Been Harmonized. 1544 01:22:39.010 --> 01:22:41.029 Probably should have read it eight or ten years ago 1545 01:22:41.050 --> 01:22:46.800 because it's about China in a surveillance state. And I'm 1546 01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:50.060 about halfway through the book and started getting into the 1547 01:22:50.100 --> 01:22:54.520 cell phones and the cameras. And even I highlighted it. 1548 01:22:57.180 --> 01:22:59.939 places where if you go to the public restroom it 1549 01:23:00.050 --> 01:23:05.949 only the toilet paper dispenser only allows a certain amount 1550 01:23:05.970 --> 01:23:09.189 of toilet paper if you can't do your thing with 1551 01:23:09.220 --> 01:23:11.539 that you've got to wait nine more minutes. 1552 01:23:13.420 --> 01:23:19.680 Dear god you just described my my purgatory The endless 1553 01:23:19.699 --> 01:23:24.020 drippy ass and the toilet paper dispenser that makes you wait. 1554 01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:26.279 Well, you know, and when you go to Japan, almost 1555 01:23:26.340 --> 01:23:30.689 every place has a bidet. That's a whole other ecological thing. 1556 01:23:31.090 --> 01:23:34.029 But while I was reading the book, laying in bed, 1557 01:23:34.050 --> 01:23:38.770 the literal digital cage, we always hear about it. We've 1558 01:23:38.810 --> 01:23:41.569 talked about it here. But literally in my head, I 1559 01:23:43.109 --> 01:23:47.510 pictured a digital cage and In China, you know, they're communists, 1560 01:23:47.569 --> 01:23:51.750 not communists. Maybe they're godless or they're not. But the 1561 01:23:51.789 --> 01:23:57.569 worship in China is the government, one party. And reading 1562 01:23:57.590 --> 01:23:59.600 the book with some of the perspectives from Chinese people 1563 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:03.760 was very, very interesting. So, you know, I'm reading this 1564 01:24:03.779 --> 01:24:06.699 book yesterday and I'm like, oh, my God, it is 1565 01:24:06.739 --> 01:24:10.000 a literal digital cage. And then I thought about it. 1566 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:15.239 It's happening here. And we always talk about who's going 1567 01:24:15.260 --> 01:24:19.119 to be in charge of that digital cage. And I 1568 01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:22.420 think to myself, which we've all seen it, Terminator, all 1569 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:28.060 those things, but maybe these evil gods are going to 1570 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:30.319 manifest through the leadership that's here if you want to 1571 01:24:30.340 --> 01:24:34.260 believe that it's a god or just the archons or 1572 01:24:34.300 --> 01:24:37.850 people who are living here that are just bad people, narcissists. 1573 01:24:38.819 --> 01:24:41.930 But what happens if they decide to, you know, just 1574 01:24:41.970 --> 01:24:44.970 like the Truman Show, They decide that, hey, my car's 1575 01:24:44.989 --> 01:24:46.890 not going to start today, and I'm going to have 1576 01:24:46.909 --> 01:24:51.289 these issues. And then we talk about feeding on the loosh. 1577 01:24:51.869 --> 01:24:56.130 I know Derek mentions that a lot. So now you do, 1578 01:24:56.189 --> 01:24:59.319 it starts to get past this point of going back 1579 01:25:00.140 --> 01:25:02.859 where you can't go back. You know, right now we 1580 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:06.020 could put the phone down, okay? I could put my 1581 01:25:06.060 --> 01:25:09.880 phone down and not look at it. That's not always 1582 01:25:09.939 --> 01:25:12.699 for me because I'm on call a lot. So really 1583 01:25:12.739 --> 01:25:16.340 the phone stays with me almost all the time. But 1584 01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:19.920 when I'm not on call, like tonight, by the way, 1585 01:25:19.939 --> 01:25:24.510 went to go see Godzilla. It's pretty good. And it 1586 01:25:24.550 --> 01:25:26.470 was nice. I came out relaxed. I wasn't all nervous. 1587 01:25:26.489 --> 01:25:28.090 I didn't have to look at the phone. I didn't 1588 01:25:28.109 --> 01:25:30.449 have to do anything. I was able to focus on 1589 01:25:31.149 --> 01:25:36.479 something on the big screen and enjoy myself. But all 1590 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:39.760 these things feed emotion. You don't look up. You don't 1591 01:25:39.819 --> 01:25:46.289 get in touch with yourself. time goes by, you know, 1592 01:25:47.069 --> 01:25:49.569 what was the movie? Good luck, have fun, don't die. 1593 01:25:50.170 --> 01:25:51.939 In the beginning of the movie, if you didn't see that, 1594 01:25:53.460 --> 01:25:56.100 the main guy, you know, the main character goes, you 1595 01:25:56.140 --> 01:25:58.079 used to get up in the morning, you check your Facebook, 1596 01:25:58.100 --> 01:26:01.140 you check your phone, and you were done. But it 1597 01:26:01.180 --> 01:26:02.859 got to a point in the future where you just 1598 01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.409 stay there looking at it. And Hey, nothing got done. 1599 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.180 And we were just trapped. Start fighting with people you 1600 01:26:09.220 --> 01:26:14.659 don't know over nonsense. That's the ultimate distraction. And this 1601 01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:16.380 is the thing, too. Like I said, and I point 1602 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:19.189 this out a lot. I try to be as apolitical 1603 01:26:19.229 --> 01:26:21.829 as possible. But in the political space, this is exactly 1604 01:26:21.869 --> 01:26:23.989 what they're doing. They want us to fight over the 1605 01:26:24.050 --> 01:26:26.670 nonsensical stuff because the thing that makes the most sense 1606 01:26:26.710 --> 01:26:28.869 that we all agree on,

they don't want us talking 1607 01:26:28.890 --> 01:26:31.409 to each other and agreeing on. That's the whole game. 1608 01:26:31.489 --> 01:26:34.130 That is the entire game here and fits into exactly 1609 01:26:34.149 --> 01:26:35.609 what we're talking about tonight. Sorry, go ahead, yeah. 1610 01:26:35.909 --> 01:26:38.630 No, no, you're exactly right because what I'm saying is 1611 01:26:39.350 --> 01:26:42.449 the truth doesn't come out because everybody's an expert. Does 1612 01:26:42.470 --> 01:26:44.590 that make sense? I'll give you an example of that. 1613 01:26:45.090 --> 01:26:49.649 I'll see posts on Facebook, on my local town feed, 1614 01:26:50.100 --> 01:26:55.199 need a funeral director, need this, need that. And I 1615 01:26:55.220 --> 01:26:58.079 don't ever tell people where I work. I just give 1616 01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:01.779 them the facts. But you'd be surprised about how many 1617 01:27:01.819 --> 01:27:05.760 people go, go get the cremation for $ 600. And it's like, 1618 01:27:05.859 --> 01:27:09.399 that's not what they're asking. But everybody's an expert. So 1619 01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.760 the shame about this is, I'm the one that's a professional. 1620 01:27:13.220 --> 01:27:15.359 But guess whose opinion you're not going to get? My 1621 01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:20.840 opinion anymore. So the truth, which might be from me 1622 01:27:20.859 --> 01:27:24.100 and my industry, or from you and your industry, or 1623 01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:27.479 from James and what he does, you may not get 1624 01:27:27.550 --> 01:27:30.430 it because... Everybody else is an expert out there. 1625 01:27:31.029 --> 01:27:34.399 Yeah, the false expert. The phony expert. Yeah, the phony expert. 1626 01:27:34.409 --> 01:27:37.100 Yeah, they're all phony. They're phony experts. You know, they're 1627 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:38.060 absolutely phony experts. 1628 01:27:38.100 --> 01:27:38.800 You know, I'm. 1629 01:27:40.380 --> 01:27:42.880 Here in Florida right now. You know, there's a big 1630 01:27:42.899 --> 01:27:47.949 political thing with the taxes and the governor. And I 1631 01:27:48.130 --> 01:27:52.189 was on Facebook posts saying this was not a citizen's initiative. 1632 01:27:53.729 --> 01:27:57.109 So this is going to screw us. It's not a 1633 01:27:57.140 --> 01:28:00.340 citizen's initiative, and he was making a big homestead exemption 1634 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:03.260 because housing prices. So he was giving everybody a big 1635 01:28:03.300 --> 01:28:05.939 tax break. You don't do that out of the goodness 1636 01:28:05.979 --> 01:28:10.199 of your heart. Well, it came out that he didn't 1637 01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:13.119 expect it to pass. The only reason why he did 1638 01:28:13.140 --> 01:28:16.189 it was to get a certain segment of the voting 1639 01:28:16.529 --> 01:28:19.770 party to come out and vote. And they voted for it. Now, 1640 01:28:19.810 --> 01:28:23.109 guess what? It's going to be in the Florida Constitution. 1641 01:28:23.890 --> 01:28:26.119 And Now we have to figure out how to pay 1642 01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:28.479 for things in small. And then here's the other thing. 1643 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.470 If you're a small county, you might have to let 1644 01:28:31.510 --> 01:28:34.029 a data center come in so they could fund you 1645 01:28:34.130 --> 01:28:36.050 and give you property tax revenue. But that's a whole 1646 01:28:36.130 --> 01:28:39.670 other thing because people don't bother to do the research. 1647 01:28:40.010 --> 01:28:43.170 see the headline and they just fucking go. I'm so 1648 01:28:43.229 --> 01:28:47.310 aggravated with it. I'm sorry. But seeing dreams, getting back 1649 01:28:47.329 --> 01:28:51.810 to all of that. Yes, the algorithm, the phones, they're 1650 01:28:52.189 --> 01:28:54.510 going to keep us trapped. And we know with flock 1651 01:28:54.529 --> 01:28:58.329 cameras and all of that, that digital cage is here 1652 01:28:58.449 --> 01:29:03.909 or already coming. And maybe that pastor was either really 1653 01:29:03.949 --> 01:29:06.829 intuitive Or he did speak to somebody. I think it's 1654 01:29:06.850 --> 01:29:11.710 probably a combination of both. You know, I've had dreams. 1655 01:29:12.329 --> 01:29:16.260 I've kept some dream journals on my phone. But there's 1656 01:29:16.270 --> 01:29:17.699 some that I don't need to tell you that I 1657 01:29:17.699 --> 01:29:19.859 don't need to write down. But like I dreamt that 1658 01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:22.739 I met my wife before I ever met her, before 1659 01:29:22.779 --> 01:29:25.640 I ever knew her. And I just told her that 1660 01:29:25.659 --> 01:29:30.529 after like 15 years of luckily being married. Well, 16 years. 1661 01:29:30.909 --> 01:29:32.470 I told her that this past year. She was, you 1662 01:29:32.489 --> 01:29:33.689 had a dream of me? I said, yeah, it had 1663 01:29:33.729 --> 01:29:37.270 to be you because you fit what I was seeing 1664 01:29:37.310 --> 01:29:41.340 in my dream. And that was years down the line 1665 01:29:43.500 --> 01:29:47.439 after I had my first girlfriend that died. 1666 01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:49.060 Back in 1993. I'm pretty sure you've told me this before. 1667 01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:52.239 Yeah, I'm sure. I saw her standing on the beach. 1668 01:29:52.270 --> 01:29:52.779 She was really. 1669 01:29:54.930 --> 01:29:56.850 And where I live, there was not really a beach. 1670 01:29:57.010 --> 01:29:59.750 So it's like I'm in Pinellas County. So we have 1671 01:29:59.789 --> 01:30:02.689 all the beaches, Clearwater, St. Pete, all of it. And 1672 01:30:02.750 --> 01:30:05.810 I saw her there. Or the image of that, I 1673 01:30:05.829 --> 01:30:09.680 didn't see, I don't usually see faces, but you know, 1674 01:30:09.689 --> 01:30:11.640 you have a dream and you're like, I know that 1675 01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:13.659 was my father. Or I know that was this dead person. 1676 01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:15.159 You just

have that feeling. 1677 01:30:16.069 --> 01:30:16.250 Right. 1678 01:30:16.609 --> 01:30:18.770 So that's where that kindred soul comes, because we could 1679 01:30:18.789 --> 01:30:21.510 probably be when we come back, we probably have different faces. 1680 01:30:22.130 --> 01:30:27.489 But it's that soul. It's that feeling. It's that, you know, familiarity, 1681 01:30:27.550 --> 01:30:32.310 familiarity that you get. But but yeah. So the thing is, 1682 01:30:32.390 --> 01:30:35.020 is how do you tune into it? I've tried lately 1683 01:30:35.060 --> 01:30:38.239 at night, but I haven't been able to. And I'll 1684 01:30:38.260 --> 01:30:40.439 be honest with you, the last few nights I've been 1685 01:30:40.460 --> 01:30:42.500 very nervous. And I think it is because of the phone. 1686 01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:46.130 I've got a lot of funerals scheduled. But there's definitely 1687 01:30:46.170 --> 01:30:48.770 some kind of energy that is kind of dragging me 1688 01:30:48.789 --> 01:30:49.750 down a little bit lately. 1689 01:30:50.130 --> 01:30:51.630 I'll tell you what it is. I know what it is. 1690 01:30:51.649 --> 01:30:54.149 You ready? 1691 01:30:54.289 --> 01:30:54.529 Go ahead. 1692 01:30:55.029 --> 01:30:55.210 Yeah. 1693 01:30:56.130 --> 01:31:01.970 I think, so you were at, let's call this a 1694 01:31:01.989 --> 01:31:08.659 Ghostbusters episode. You were at ground zero of Boomerville's dying. 1695 01:31:10.250 --> 01:31:13.149 And it's, it's, it's going to amplify. Like we are, 1696 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.960 we are in the space of the boomer generation, the 1697 01:31:16.020 --> 01:31:20.300 largest by number generation. They're in that, they're all in 1698 01:31:20.340 --> 01:31:23.640 that pocket and they're all again, you know, everybody has 1699 01:31:23.659 --> 01:31:26.369 to go at some point. And, and you are literally like, 1700 01:31:26.909 --> 01:31:31.750 it's like, like a landslide of death. And not, not 1701 01:31:31.789 --> 01:31:34.310 trying to be morbid, just trying to point out the obvious. 1702 01:31:34.569 --> 01:31:36.390 And so I think you are literally standing at that 1703 01:31:36.430 --> 01:31:39.770 crossroads right now and feeling it before it happens. Cause 1704 01:31:39.949 --> 01:31:41.659 it's going to happen, dude. Like if it's not now, 1705 01:31:41.739 --> 01:31:43.300 it's going to be a year from now, two years 1706 01:31:43.340 --> 01:31:44.539 from now, three years from now, and you're going to 1707 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:45.750 have so much work. You can't handle it. 1708 01:31:46.420 --> 01:31:49.199 Well, it's funny you say that just because last week 1709 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:52.390 we had a girl that used to go to the club. 1710 01:31:53.390 --> 01:31:58.239 She did go to the club and she, You know, 1711 01:31:58.270 --> 01:31:59.930 when you could tell she like she would walk in. 1712 01:32:00.069 --> 01:32:01.789 I never said a word to this. She was way 1713 01:32:01.829 --> 01:32:04.270 above my league. But she would walk into the room. 1714 01:32:06.510 --> 01:32:09.890 And again, never spoke a word to her. But I 1715 01:32:09.930 --> 01:32:12.729 could just tell that this person was special. Like you 1716 01:32:12.750 --> 01:32:17.300 could just tell. And I only let my feelings known. 1717 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.340 Like I had other friends like, who is that? Because 1718 01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:23.319 she just seems and they would tell me. Well, last week. 1719 01:32:24.489 --> 01:32:26.880 there was a bank robbery. My mom comes out. She's like, Oh, 1720 01:32:26.899 --> 01:32:28.439 there was this bank robbery. It was a shootout. And 1721 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.100 I kind of, I kind of blew it off. Well, 1722 01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:34.319 one girl got shot and it was that girl. So 1723 01:32:34.340 --> 01:32:38.479 that was the first one. And to see all of my, 1724 01:32:38.500 --> 01:32:41.159 I didn't go to the club last week because I 1725 01:32:41.220 --> 01:32:43.340 knew that emotionally that energy was going to be draining 1726 01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:46.180 to me because I do it all the time. Right. 1727 01:32:47.579 --> 01:32:50.479 And then literally like four days later, the light guy, 1728 01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:54.670 this guy, Richard, we love him. Uh, He was taking 1729 01:32:54.689 --> 01:32:57.560 care of this girl that was not doing well. She 1730 01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:00.760 died in the hospital. So two in one week, it 1731 01:33:00.779 --> 01:33:06.479 were affecting my friends. And then I had some pretty 1732 01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:09.470 sad stories come through the funeral home. Like literally yesterday, 1733 01:33:09.489 --> 01:33:13.449 I had a woman pretty much crying to me about 1734 01:33:13.510 --> 01:33:16.750 how her sister's house got stolen by a guardian. Just 1735 01:33:16.810 --> 01:33:17.770 weird stuff. But anyway. 1736 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:24.520 We do. 1737 01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:27.600 It's draining. And usually I'm okay with it. Usually I'm 1738 01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:30.180 fine with it. But I think these last two weeks 1739 01:33:30.300 --> 01:33:32.850 I've been eaten up by it. And that's probably why 1740 01:33:32.859 --> 01:33:36.449 I'm going to go play ice hockey tomorrow. And go 1741 01:33:36.470 --> 01:33:38.710 have lunch with a friend. Maybe go to a strip 1742 01:33:38.729 --> 01:33:41.069 club for an hour. And then have my doctor's appointment 1743 01:33:41.109 --> 01:33:43.710 in the afternoon. And say, fuck it. That's it. 1744 01:33:44.189 --> 01:33:48.359 Hey, stop it. Stop it. Hey, we're on the precipice 1745 01:33:48.420 --> 01:33:53.720 of radio bill. Stop with the F-bombs. Hey, you're a 1746 01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:56.340 little too comfortable up in this hizzy. Settle down. 1747 01:33:57.100 --> 01:33:58.779 You know, it usually don't cost, but it's been rough. 1748 01:33:59.020 --> 01:34:01.829 That's okay. I understand. You are, like I said, at

1749 01:34:01.850 --> 01:34:05.750 the crossroads of this deluge, the incoming deluge. It's not 1750 01:34:05.770 --> 01:34:08.029 a good place to be. I mean, you know, like 1751 01:34:08.090 --> 01:34:10.630 business is booming, but when business is death, that's just, 1752 01:34:10.829 --> 01:34:14.289 I mean, you're, you are, uh, sort of being drawn in, 1753 01:34:14.649 --> 01:34:16.850 in a lot of, a lot of ways in a moment. 1754 01:34:17.069 --> 01:34:20.710 And I understand. So, so, uh, I forgive you of course, but, um, 1755 01:34:20.890 --> 01:34:22.489 you know, fire stuff. I appreciate you being here. What 1756 01:34:22.529 --> 01:34:23.270 else you got for us tonight? 1757 01:34:24.069 --> 01:34:27.979 Um, that's it. You know, it's interesting. Try to write 1758 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:30.569 your dreams down. Uh, I used to be scared and, 1759 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:32.180 you know, when I try to sleep on my back 1760 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:35.220 sometimes and I will get lucid dreaming, I'm trying to 1761 01:34:35.260 --> 01:34:38.689 get back into that. And that's what I think everybody 1762 01:34:38.710 --> 01:34:40.289 should try. I mean, what else are we doing? 1763 01:34:40.710 --> 01:34:40.930 Right. 1764 01:34:41.310 --> 01:34:43.710 Spend 20 minutes nodding off. Try to see if you 1765 01:34:43.729 --> 01:34:47.939 can answer yourself a question or, you know, see the future. 1766 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:48.979 So. 1767 01:34:50.939 --> 01:34:51.600 I'll leave you with that. 1768 01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:54.680 Do the best. Appreciate you. Thanks for staying up late 1769 01:34:54.699 --> 01:34:58.260 with us. And thanks for enduring the political swings that 1770 01:34:58.300 --> 01:35:03.819 we're all dealing with. And I know you're over there and. Well, 1771 01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:08.079 we'll reconvene at some point. You, sir, do your best. 1772 01:35:08.100 --> 01:35:11.100 And this one goes out to you, by the way. 1773 01:35:12.899 --> 01:35:17.350 The whole space of finding purpose and finding the armor 1774 01:35:17.390 --> 01:35:21.140 of God for the coming onslaught. you are standing in 1775 01:35:21.180 --> 01:35:23.779 that space. So this, this whole one, we, we, we 1776 01:35:23.819 --> 01:35:27.140 dedicate to Joe tonight because there's going to be, he's 1777 01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:29.039 got a lot of work coming. And like I said, 1778 01:35:29.060 --> 01:35:31.600 I'm not trying to be morbid. I promise you. Like I, I, 1779 01:35:31.810 --> 01:35:34.550 I'm just recognizing, like I said, I've had some in 1780 01:35:34.609 --> 01:35:36.890 my family, we've, we've had some heavy losses this year 1781 01:35:36.930 --> 01:35:40.270 from the boomer generation and they are the largest generation. 1782 01:35:40.390 --> 01:35:43.159 And so it's going to come in a, in a, 1783 01:35:43.449 --> 01:35:46.399 in a flood. And I'm not happy. There's nothing good 1784 01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:49.890 about this. It's just that Joe is literally a funeral director. 1785 01:35:49.909 --> 01:35:51.329 If you don't know, if you're, if you, if you 1786 01:35:51.369 --> 01:35:53.970 haven't been following the mythology of troubled minds, as we've 1787 01:35:54.010 --> 01:35:56.869 built it over the years, Joe is a funeral director. 1788 01:35:57.390 --> 01:35:59.529 And so he's when things like this happen and he's 1789 01:35:59.550 --> 01:36:02.109 got some COVID stories, by the way. So, you know, 1790 01:36:02.310 --> 01:36:05.569 all kinds of stories, all kinds of stories. So, I mean, 1791 01:36:06.270 --> 01:36:08.760 when this stuff happens, he's at the crossroads of it. 1792 01:36:08.949 --> 01:36:12.960 And so a prayers for you and the fam. And just, just, 1793 01:36:13.060 --> 01:36:17.119 just remember, remember, Remember the purpose. Whatever the purpose is, 1794 01:36:17.140 --> 01:36:19.359 go back to the nostalgia space in the safest way, 1795 01:36:19.579 --> 01:36:22.050 not the darkest way. And you're the best, bro. I 1796 01:36:22.069 --> 01:36:22.710 appreciate you being here. 1797 01:36:23.609 --> 01:36:25.390 Have a good night, guys. Everybody have a good week. 1798 01:36:25.569 --> 01:36:28.310 And hug your loved ones and friends. 1799 01:36:28.810 --> 01:36:29.130 Amen. 1800 01:36:29.590 --> 01:36:29.909 Amen. 1801 01:36:30.090 --> 01:36:32.880 Because you never know. You never know. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. 1802 01:36:32.899 --> 01:36:33.819 That is true. 1803 01:36:34.470 --> 01:36:34.750 Amen. 1804 01:36:34.930 --> 01:36:36.670 You're the best. Have a great night. Appreciate you very much. 1805 01:36:36.689 --> 01:36:39.449 He's a shout out. Kelly was the first guy to 1806 01:36:39.470 --> 01:36:41.829 call us and call us back. Joe was the second 1807 01:36:41.850 --> 01:36:43.850 guy to call us and then continue to call us back. 1808 01:36:43.890 --> 01:36:46.289 These guys have been friends for years. Literally. I'm not 1809 01:36:46.329 --> 01:36:49.229 kidding you. Like, is it eight years? I don't know. 1810 01:36:49.250 --> 01:36:50.909 I lost count eight years, nine years. 1811 01:36:50.989 --> 01:36:51.350 I don't know. 1812 01:36:51.489 --> 01:36:55.569 Like, Hey, the mission is incomplete. And so the years 1813 01:36:55.840 --> 01:37:01.939 matter less because the future is what's important. Yeah. Hey, 1814 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.039 I'm at the oldest algorithm. A Lantern at the Rail. 1815 01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:07.279 Lots of things here. Like I said, if you're interested 1816 01:37:07.300 --> 01:37:10.260 in a larger narrative, there is a larger narrative. Go 1817 01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:13.850 read the write-up. Words, words, words, Beavis and Butthead style. 1818 01:37:14.289 --> 01:37:16.029 Always cracked me up when they were like, you know, 1819 01:37:16.149 --> 01:37:17.510 gave them a book and they just flipped it and 1820 01:37:17.529 --> 01:37:19.670 were like, words, words. I didn't read a single word 1821 01:37:19.689 -->

01:37:25.609 of it. But you can. Go check it out at TroubledMinds.org. 1822 01:37:26.170 --> 01:37:29.229 Click the newsletter link on the top. You can join 1823 01:37:29.260 --> 01:37:31.420 it for free. If it pops up and says, pay money, 1824 01:37:32.310 --> 01:37:33.909 you can also say, Nope, I'm going to join it 1825 01:37:33.930 --> 01:37:34.229 for free. 1826 01:37:34.369 --> 01:37:34.670 It's free. 1827 01:37:35.210 --> 01:37:37.350 So if you want to support the show, you can 1828 01:37:37.369 --> 01:37:39.560 also say, yep, I'll, you know, kick in nine bucks 1829 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.619 a month or something, whatever. James, anything to add? Lots 1830 01:37:42.659 --> 01:37:45.279 of things in play here. Lots of ideas swirling. And, um, 1831 01:37:45.979 --> 01:37:47.180 I don't know what to make of it other than 1832 01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.520 I feel like we're on the tip of the spear 1833 01:37:49.539 --> 01:37:53.760 of the energy space. And, uh, you know, uh, ego wise, 1834 01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:57.840 you know, whatever, like, uh, I don't know, but, uh, 1835 01:37:58.250 --> 01:38:00.550 beyond that, I think that there's a lot of things 1836 01:38:00.590 --> 01:38:04.569 we talk about that nobody else talks about. And so, yeah, let's, 1837 01:38:04.770 --> 01:38:06.350 let's wind this down. Thanks for being here, brother. You're 1838 01:38:06.369 --> 01:38:06.630 the best. 1839 01:38:08.229 --> 01:38:08.430 Yeah. 1840 01:38:08.470 --> 01:38:09.510 No great calls from everyone. 1841 01:38:10.590 --> 01:38:12.770 I'm not, I mean, not coming up with a lot 1842 01:38:12.789 --> 01:38:14.649 more than just like I said earlier, there's so much 1843 01:38:14.710 --> 01:38:20.140 to do with dreams. The, the, the devices and, and the, 1844 01:38:20.939 --> 01:38:24.260 the images and all that, that is fascinating to me. 1845 01:38:25.180 --> 01:38:29.930 Sort of, It's not even just like it was a 1846 01:38:29.970 --> 01:38:34.369 lantern showing images random images to all these people in 1847 01:38:34.409 --> 01:38:37.760 that dream it was specific so it was showing them 1848 01:38:37.909 --> 01:38:42.979 again that mirror aspect but also it was not just 1849 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:46.680 a regular mirror in that it wasn't just showing them 1850 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:48.939 themselves at the moment as they were and I know 1851 01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:52.659 this is getting way deep into details into a dream, 1852 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:56.680 but it was showing them nostalgia, and it was showing 1853 01:38:56.699 --> 01:39:00.979 them things that, again, made them feel certain ways. 1854 01:39:01.979 --> 01:39:03.779 And that, again, to me is. 1855 01:39:04.539 --> 01:39:09.710 What I'm wondering is if the implication or the meaning 1856 01:39:09.770 --> 01:39:14.609 was that this magic lantern, whatever it was, was showing... 1857 01:39:15.609 --> 01:39:18.930 possibly the worst, or at least what this entity thought 1858 01:39:18.970 --> 01:39:24.489 was the worst aspects of these people. The most evil 1859 01:39:24.569 --> 01:39:28.039 aspects of it, or the most sort of negative aspects 1860 01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:32.300 of these people. And for some people, there wasn't much negative. 1861 01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:36.319 It was pretty plain. But, yeah, I'm just really curious 1862 01:39:36.340 --> 01:39:39.029 about that as well, as far as how much of 1863 01:39:39.109 --> 01:39:41.829 it was a mirror and how much of it was actually. 1864 01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:45.239 Not a mirror. It was a transfer of some kind. 1865 01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:50.380 Yeah, recognized, too, when you talk about the algorithm. Shout out, algorithm. 1866 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.619 What's up, Mike in Colorado? But when you talk about 1867 01:39:53.649 --> 01:39:56.609 the actual algorithm itself, it is kind of a mirror. 1868 01:39:57.390 --> 01:39:59.510 And we talked about sort of the ugly face, you know, 1869 01:39:59.529 --> 01:40:04.630 the YouTube face or whatever. These types of things, like 1870 01:40:04.670 --> 01:40:07.810 the dirty tricks people play to kind of get what's 1871 01:40:07.850 --> 01:40:11.819 called CTR, which is click-through rate. There's I mean, there 1872 01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:13.779 are there are tricks people are using. And it is, 1873 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:17.000 you know, I mean, I think I think probably at 1874 01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:19.520 some point I'll go through and do like the modern 1875 01:40:19.619 --> 01:40:23.329 alchemy bit of what this looks like in the digital space. 1876 01:40:24.010 --> 01:40:26.210 But if you can game the the click through rate, 1877 01:40:26.289 --> 01:40:29.050 which means that the percentage of people that see the 1878 01:40:29.069 --> 01:40:33.689 thumbnail that actually click it. you basically won the game. 1879 01:40:34.029 --> 01:40:37.090 And this is why things are just getting more and 1880 01:40:37.109 --> 01:40:40.170 more ridiculous. And you see that like the really big 1881 01:40:40.229 --> 01:40:43.810 faces and the, once again, the YouTube face, the, Oh, 1882 01:40:43.829 --> 01:40:47.430 I'm shocked. Everything's insane or cracked. I've said this before, 1883 01:40:48.029 --> 01:40:50.409 but it is sort of modern. 1884 01:40:50.430 --> 01:40:56.729 I don't know about alchemy, but modern. How would you 1885 01:40:56.770 --> 01:41:01.189 say like, I mean, the brainwashing comes after the click, 1886 01:41:01.229 --> 01:41:03.630 but the click itself is sort of the sorcery that 1887 01:41:03.649 --> 01:41:04.270 draws you in. 1888 01:41:04.869 --> 01:41:08.329 It's the, you know, like, oh, this is my jam. 1889 01:41:08.970 --> 01:41:11.399 This guy is really shocked that it says that this 1890 01:41:11.449 --> 01:41:15.260 is the most crack thing you've seen in this decade. 1891 01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:20.880 I mean, it's definitely a draw in the human space 1892 01:41:21.739 --> 01:41:25.720 and a

manipulation. And by the way, too, I've been 1893 01:41:25.739 --> 01:41:30.020 thinking about this a lot. Sidebar. People that wear suits, 1894 01:41:31.020 --> 01:41:34.770 think about this, like rewind your life when you were 1895 01:41:34.810 --> 01:41:38.789 like 20 years old. And the suit was the sort 1896 01:41:38.810 --> 01:41:40.789 of signal to the world that you were ready to 1897 01:41:40.829 --> 01:41:41.369 play ball. 1898 01:41:42.750 --> 01:41:42.949 Right? 1899 01:41:42.970 --> 01:41:45.399 You, you wear the suit, you put the tie on, you, you, 1900 01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:49.659 you know, you, uh, yeah, you're, you're in the business, 1901 01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:53.039 you're in the business swing. But now all I see 1902 01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:55.380 is it's like the, the jester suit. It's like the clown, 1903 01:41:55.399 --> 01:42:00.090 the clown outfit. Because you see all the worst people 1904 01:42:00.130 --> 01:42:04.029 in the world, and what are they wearing? Suits. Like 1905 01:42:04.210 --> 01:42:06.729 it's supposed to fool us at this point. Like, hey, 1906 01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:09.439 maybe in 1982 it would fool us. Like, hey, I've 1907 01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:13.460 arrived to play ball. I'm old enough to buy a 1908 01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:18.239 fitted suit, a tailored suit. Oh, yeah? Now you're just 1909 01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:20.520 exposing yourself as a clown, sir. And by the way, 1910 01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:22.960 the people out there that wear suits for their jobs 1911 01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.489 and stuff, I'm not coming at you, bro. but you 1912 01:42:26.510 --> 01:42:29.369 get what I'm saying. Like suddenly, like the signs are 1913 01:42:29.390 --> 01:42:33.750 all there. Hey, I show up in a black t-shirt 1914 01:42:34.270 --> 01:42:38.199 and I'm ready to play ball. Anyway, don't forget the 1915 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:40.579 armor of God, whatever it looks like to you, wear it. 1916 01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:42.739 Final thought, James, let's get out of here. 1917 01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.180 Well, I did remember something that Derek reminded me of 1918 01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:50.020 earlier is that lately I've been, um, I had been 1919 01:42:50.510 --> 01:42:57.189 watching this, uh, again, nostalgia, the, uh, Justice League, DC 1920 01:42:57.229 --> 01:43:00.350 Comics Justice League cartoon series from the late 90s, early 2000s. 1921 01:43:01.329 --> 01:43:05.029 And I found myself watching that like three or four 1922 01:43:05.090 --> 01:43:09.529 episodes at a time and didn't realize it until I 1923 01:43:09.970 --> 01:43:12.170 started noticing, wow, my eyes are bothering me more. 1924 01:43:12.770 --> 01:43:13.489 Why is it happening? 1925 01:43:14.689 --> 01:43:15.250 Nostalgia. 1926 01:43:16.210 --> 01:43:19.380 Because I remember that series so well and I enjoyed 1927 01:43:19.409 --> 01:43:23.500 it so much. And it was available to me with 1928 01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:27.489 commercials And so I was checking it out. And so 1929 01:43:27.510 --> 01:43:29.949 I had just, I got way down on that. And 1930 01:43:29.989 --> 01:43:32.229 now I just watched one or two when there's time 1931 01:43:32.289 --> 01:43:37.880 between things. And, uh, so they got me, but, uh, 1932 01:43:38.539 --> 01:43:40.159 you know, I fought back, I guess you could say. 1933 01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:41.079 Yeah. 1934 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:44.220 Well, just, just take back your cognitive Liberty. That's what 1935 01:43:44.260 --> 01:43:46.800 this is about. That that's look, and that's the entirety 1936 01:43:46.819 --> 01:43:49.489 of this entire, like if you go back 1200 episodes, 1937 01:43:49.510 --> 01:43:52.649 that's what we're always talking about. If there's one singular theme, um, 1938 01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:55.819 about all the things we could discuss, it's about that. 1939 01:43:55.939 --> 01:44:02.180 It's about your cognitive liberty. Do you actually press forward 1940 01:44:02.220 --> 01:44:04.260 who you are and who you want to be? Or 1941 01:44:04.340 --> 01:44:07.840 are you living someone else's dream because you've been told 1942 01:44:07.939 --> 01:44:12.149 that's the dream you should live? It's a simple concept, 1943 01:44:12.899 --> 01:44:19.210 but recognize how deep these ideas go and how tentacled 1944 01:44:19.250 --> 01:44:24.909 they are into our minds, our hearts, and our souls. 1945 01:44:26.369 --> 01:44:30.630 Please do me a favor. Follow our friends. Follow James. 1946 01:44:30.729 --> 01:44:34.170 Go buy his books. Let's get together and talk about 1947 01:44:34.210 --> 01:44:37.270 these ideas. Absolutely. I appreciate each and every one of 1948 01:44:37.289 --> 01:44:40.399 you being here, staying up late with us. Untethering your 1949 01:44:40.449 --> 01:44:43.800 mind from the people wearing suits that are ready to 1950 01:44:43.899 --> 01:44:49.979 deal business. And instead, considering what's possible outside the paradigm 1951 01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:57.779 of of natural thought unnatural thought uh i don't know 1952 01:44:58.770 --> 01:45:00.489 i'm not sure i'm gonna have to think about that 1953 01:45:00.569 --> 01:45:03.810 one deeply i'll write a whole thing on it but 1954 01:45:04.350 --> 01:45:09.149 you get my point it does not matter what somebody 1955 01:45:09.229 --> 01:45:13.000 tells you to do when you want to do what 1956 01:45:13.020 --> 01:45:20.000 you want to do it's good this is good think 1957 01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:24.699 about it deeply look i do every single day Every 1958 01:45:24.739 --> 01:45:30.590 single day. Why am I here? What is my purpose? 1959 01:45:32.810 --> 01:45:36.430 How are we going to get through this together? Every day. 1960 01:45:38.010 --> 01:45:41.380 And what do I do? I come up with fantastical 1961 01:45:41.409 --> 01:45:45.800 stories to talk about. But recognize what's happening as we 1962 01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:50.239 weave those narratives, the counter narratives into those

stories, the 1963 01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:56.420 oldest stories even. I'm telling you, there's some power here. 1964 01:45:56.439 --> 01:46:00.090 And don't forget, as I always say, this is your 1965 01:46:00.149 --> 01:46:06.310 world too. If you want to help us, help our friends. Troubleminds.org 1966 01:46:06.329 --> 01:46:13.750 forward slash friends. Go follow James. SalcidoParanormal.com. S-A-L-S-I-D-O Paranormal.com. Go 1967 01:46:13.789 --> 01:46:17.069 check out his website. Absolutely amazing stuff over there. He's 1968 01:46:17.109 --> 01:46:21.829 written books. He's done over a thousand podcasts. Years of work. 1969 01:46:22.050 --> 01:46:26.789 He's a paranormal expert with Troubleminds. And, dare I suggest it, 1970 01:46:27.590 --> 01:46:31.520 the most comprehensive paranormal archive on the internet. If you're 1971 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:34.279 into this stuff and you're not following James, you're doing 1972 01:46:34.300 --> 01:46:34.600 it wrong. 1973 01:46:34.619 --> 01:46:35.920 Do it. 1974 01:46:36.300 --> 01:46:37.720 Salcido Paranormal. I'll show you. 1975 01:46:37.739 --> 01:46:38.100 Let's go. 1976 01:46:38.180 --> 01:46:41.399 Let's go straight down to the thing. Scroll down. Troubledminds.org. 1977 01:46:41.439 --> 01:46:46.430 Follow James right there. Where's the James link? There it is. 1978 01:46:48.029 --> 01:46:48.390 Boom. 1979 01:46:48.670 --> 01:46:53.869 Oh, there's a link tree. Takes you to Salcido Paranormal.com. 1980 01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:58.979 Help our friends. Go spend some time. If you want 1981 01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:00.579 to help us, help our friends. Go spend some time. 1982 01:47:00.619 --> 01:47:02.279 Make some accounts in the places you don't have them 1983 01:47:02.319 --> 01:47:05.779 and follow these people and encourage them. Help them. 1984 01:47:05.810 --> 01:47:07.789 Network. 1985 01:47:09.050 --> 01:47:11.829 Talk about ideas. Get each other on each other's shows. 1986 01:47:11.890 --> 01:47:13.250 And I know a bunch of that has happened. And 1987 01:47:13.270 --> 01:47:16.409 I'm extremely proud to be in the middle of a 1988 01:47:16.930 --> 01:47:20.119 bunch of that. If you want to help us directly, 1989 01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:22.739 spread the word. Let people know a conversation is happening, 1990 01:47:22.760 --> 01:47:23.960 but we're not going to tell you who to vote for. 1991 01:47:24.810 --> 01:47:28.239 Every single conversation does not devolve into some binary political 1992 01:47:28.260 --> 01:47:31.819 nonsensical slap fight. 1993 01:47:36.180 --> 01:47:36.520 That's it. 1994 01:47:37.260 --> 01:47:40.920 Troubleminds.org. Click the support link. There's buy me a coffee. 1995 01:47:40.939 --> 01:47:43.939 There's all this stuff there. Troublefans.com. If you like the merch, 1996 01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:47.199 buy the hats, buy the shirts. Like I said, I'm 1997 01:47:47.220 --> 01:47:50.380 not here as a carnival barker to try and whip 1998 01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:52.810 up some money out of nothing. I'm here to whip 1999 01:47:52.909 --> 01:47:58.789 up some inspiration out of desperation in a fading society 2000 01:47:59.090 --> 01:48:02.930 that need not fade. Thanks for being here. Thanks for 2001 01:48:02.949 --> 01:48:05.850 being cool and chill. Thanks for hanging out. As we finish, 2002 01:48:05.869 --> 01:48:08.979 this one goes out to Joe in Florida. Be sure, 2003 01:48:10.020 --> 01:48:15.260 be strong, be true. Thank you for listening. From our 2004 01:48:15.300 --> 01:48:18.720 troubled minds to yours, have a great night.