บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ TMP345 ANTHONY DONADO MAKES IT EASY

of people are pulling for Iran against the United States. It's crazy, man. Crazy. Going nuts. Yeah. 29 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:53.000 They're always a tough team. But do you remember about two World Cups ago, one of the players for Uruguay bit another player? 30 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:54.000 Yeah. 31 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:55.000 Remember that? 32 00:02:54.000 --> 00:03:01.000 Yeah, yeah, I remember his name. He was. That's why I Love him so much, I think I can't remember the guy's name, but, yeah, he bit the guy. 33 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:10.000 Yeah, it was like a Tyson on a soccer field. He just bit the guy. I forget his name, too, and I forget who they were playing. But that was about two World Cups 34 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.000 ago, I think so. Yeah. 35 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:12.000 Yeah. 36 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:16.000 And he's been known to do it. He had done it before. It was not his first bite. 37 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.000 Yeah, it's one of his moves. 38 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:23.000 And he was apparently one of their top players or something. I don't know. Defenders or whatever. I don't know. 39 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:27.000 So we got to watch out for that. The young Uruguayan soccer players, for some 40 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:40.000 reason, you know, they won. They won. They were like the Cinderella team that won back in the 30s or something. Right. And they've never won since. But they always seem to get there, you know, they always seem to be in the Cup. 41 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:43.000 They're scrappy. They're always scrappy. 42 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:59.000 They're scrappy. Like Italy. Italy hasn't been in it since, like, 2012. They haven't even qualified because, you know, there's like, four years of qualifying for these teams to get in, because you have every country in the world trying to qualify for these 48 spots. 43 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:00.000 Okay. 44 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:22.000 You know, and look at the Cape Verde. They. They. They held Spain to Nasina yesterday. And this. This is a little island nation of about 250,000 people that qualified. They're ranked 67th in the world. And they tied the number two team in the world, Spain, which they celebrated like, they just, you know, won. 45 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.000 Won the whole thing, huh? 46 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:25.000 Yeah. And it was, like, amazing. 47 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:26.000 All right. 48 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:30.000 You know, crazy drama there. Yeah. A little island off the coast of West Africa. 49 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:34.000 I'm missing out on it all. I can't, can't, can't. 50 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:41.000 Of course, you know, I. I have to watch it in the Spanish language because it's so much funner and more exciting to watch it in the Spanish, 51 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.000 they call it better. It's just. It's just so. 52 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.000 It's just exactly. 53 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:46.000 There's. 54 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:50.000 There's inflection in that voice. Whereas Amer. It's just so. So blase and homogenized. 55 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:51.000 Right. 56 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:52.000 Watching an English person do it. 57 00:04:52.000 --> 00:05:08.000 Right. Exactly. Where, you know, it's like, oh, what a gold for that. For the English, you know, where it's like, you listen to in Spanish. I mean, it's just like. It's just like crazy. Going nuts. But even, like the leading up, this stuff, you know, it's just what they're talking about. 58 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:09.000 Yeah. 59 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:17.000 You know, Anyway, so that's what I'm watching. I'm excited about it. I'm missing a great game right now for it, you know, which I. Hopefully I'll be able to get home and watch the end of it. Yeah. 60 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:18.000 You know, this thing's last. 61 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.000 I'm trying to watch it all. 62 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:21.000 Okay. 63 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.000 Because it only comes around every four years. 64 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:24.000 Yeah. 65 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:34.000 You know, and you got to remember, the United States wouldn't even be in it if they weren't hosting the. The. The cup. They get an automatic entry because they host it. 66 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.000 Well, FIFA is very, very corrupt, is it not? 67 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:37.000 Yes. 68 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:38.000 The whole organization, it's. 69 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:39.000 It's all. 70 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:47.000 I think it's run by a bunch of money. Oh, yeah, it's the Illuminati. It's what. It's their guys. They just call it FIFA. 71 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.000 I think it's a lot of. A lot of oil money. 72 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.000 Well, it's very. You know, people get into it, man. 73 00:05:53.000 --> 00:06:15.000 All right, well, you know, God bless them. Glad they're having something they can enjoy now. I don't know. Some other news going on here, and I know I was out of town this weekend. I was up in Tennessee playing a few dates, but apparently I missed the. The annual naked bike ride, which we seem to always mention on this podcast at. Annual event. 74 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.000 It's so stupid. 75 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:17.000 Did you attend? 76 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:32.000 No, I didn't. That shit. Oh, well, you know, it's the only. It's the only time, you know, people on bicycles don't get hit by cars for some reason. It is this bike race or this bike run, whatever they call it, usually 77 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:43.000 for things like that. It may sound alluring. Ooh, naked bike ride. But there's usually only about two or three people that you'd actually want to see naked doing it out of the 500. 78 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.000 Oh, yeah. No, I think you want to put your eyes out. 79 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.000 Yeah. Most of the time it's like, oh, my goodness. Yeah. 80 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:53.000 Well, what's it. There's

naked, there's good naked, and there's bad naked. And that's definitely. 81 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:54.000 Exactly. 82 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.000 Because that's definitely bad naked, you know. 83 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:56.000 Right, right, right. 84 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:01.000 People there and all that. It's always the ugliest and fat as fucks you ever want you anyway, you 85 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:06.000 have to be like, how often do you ride your bike? Really? Like, look at you. 86 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.000 Sure. 87 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:17.000 Exactly. Is this the only day of the year? But, yeah, so it's. They get some exercise out of it. No, I didn't go to that, man. I don't need that in my life, man. 88 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:35.000 Well, did you see this item in the news? This was in Brazil I believe, had a woman. You know, people go on vacations, they get talked into, you know, doing something exciting, you know, free diving, or in this case, the bungee. Bungee jumping. 89 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.000 It's not bungee. It's rope swinging. 90 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:38.000 It's. 91 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:39.000 Well, I don't know. Is that. 92 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:48.000 Is that what it was? Yeah, that's what it was, what they call it, because I actually read even more about that. There's actually an international organization for bungee jumping. 93 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:49.000 Okay. 94 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:55.000 And they're saying this is giving us a bad name because it wasn't bungee jumping what they were doing. It's rope swinging. 95 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:27.000 Well, so I'm sure everyone's seen the video by now, but in case you haven't seen it, there, the person's being filmed from behind and you can see the whole thing on the camera. And I guess they couldn't see, but as soon as they showed it on television, I noticed right away there's no rope attached to her. And this poor woman, they just launch her off the side of this 130, 30 foot high bridge and she just sails down unobstructed, you know, and they 96 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:36.000 forgot the rope, forgot to hook her up. It was three guys. It was like they were going, I thought you were supposed to do it. No, I thought you. No, that wasn't me. You're supposed to do it. I did the last time. 97 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:45.000 It goes back to my rule of thumb that, you know, there's certain things you just don't do because. Why, what could. What could the possible upside be of it? 98 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:52.000 You know, it's like jumping off of bridge with the rope. That's. There's very few upsides. Like. 99 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:53.000 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 100 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:55.000 I don't know. Some adrenaline for a second. 101 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:58.000 Supposed to be terrifying. I'm sure it was terrifying. 102 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:59.000 Yeah. 103 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:00.000 But. 104 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.000 Yeah, for a lot of people, the last. 105 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.000 The last thrill. Last. 106 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:08.000 Well, it's like always, the only people that are going to win are the lawyers. The lawyers will win. 107 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:09.000 Sure. 108 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:20.000 Sure, they'll win. You know, but. Yeah, those South Americans, they're crazy people, man. They should have been at the World Cup. Why are they throwing. Why are they jumping off bridges, man? Man, they should be at the World cup supporting their team. 109 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.000 Yep. 110 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:22.000 You know. 111 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:23.000 Okay, well, you have anything else there, man? 112 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.000 Yeah, I got plenty. 113 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.000 Okay. 114 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:36.000 While you were gone, I. I saw this thing. You know what do you usually tip when you go to a restaurant? You try to do the 20%. 115 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.000 Sure, sure. 20%, 25. 116 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:43.000 Being. Being an ex waiter, I might push it up a little bit, But I have 20% for sure. 117 00:09:43.000 --> 00:10:03.000 Yeah. Okay, so you're an ex waiter. This waiter, in some town, I think it was in Ohio or maybe Pennsylvania. And it was apparently a $200 bill. And the customer left a $50 tip, which is 20%. 118 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.000 Yeah, 25%. 119 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:12.000 20, 25%. And the waiter looked at him and goes, I'm not taking this. 120 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:13.000 What? 121 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:17.000 I want $85. What? And the, the woman was like, that's 122 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:18.000 not really the way it works. 123 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:35.000 Yeah. He goes, I want $85. 200. And that's like a 42% tip. Jeez. 40. And it was this big thing and basically the woman, the customer just said, well, if you don't want it, I'll take it right back. Sure, put it back in her pocket. Right. 124 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:36.000 Yeah. 125 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:36.000 You. 126 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.000 I don't have to give you nothing. 127 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:43.000 I don't have to give you anything. Really. Yeah. But this guy, this waiter, he. He refused a $50 tip, man. 128 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.000 You know that. Yeah, I could be mentally ill. I don't know. 129 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:52.000 Maybe it's just like, I don't know, whatever became of it, there was no real resolution to it. Like, did. 130 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.000 Oh, there was a resolution. He got nothing. 131 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:17.000 Yeah. But did he get fired? I know it went on online. The woman was interviewed by all those magazine shows and stuff. It's just like, who's going to say no to 50 bucks? Yeah. An idiot. This guy's an idiot. I hope he got fired. I hope he's washing dishes now, you know, but anyway, that happened. I thought that was crazy. Going nuts. 132 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:18.000 Yeah. 133 00:11:18.000 --> 00:12:08.000 And

then over, I think it was about two weeks ago, there was a guy, speaking of 42%. He was, he was celebrating his 42nd birthday and apparently it was a whole day long party. He's celebrating his 42nd birthday. This is in Orange County, California, you know, which is kind of a crazy area of California. He got, he was drinking and apparently witnesses said he had two quarts of Jack Daniels. He drank two quarts of Jack Daniels. And then this is at his own birthday party. His family's there visiting. Family and friends are visiting. And he comes out of his bedroom with guns and just starts shooting everywhere. Fortunately for him, he didn't kill anybody. 134 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:09.000 Wow. 135 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:34.000 They ran like crazy. And then he was still in the house. The family called the cops on him. Later, about 20 minutes later, the cops are coming. 20 minutes. A helicopter, a sheriff's helicopter is coming overhead to check out the scene. He gets on like his balcony and starts shooting at the helicopter. Jeez. So one night of partying for this guy, one drunken Night. Now he's facing up to 24 years in prison. 136 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:35.000 Oh, I'll bet. 137 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.000 You know, so. 138 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:37.000 Yeah. 139 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:44.000 Yeah. I never was a Jack guy, really. You know, Jack and coke once in a while in my younger days. But at 42, you got to move on. 140 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:45.000 Yeah, exactly. 141 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:46.000 Yeah. 142 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.000 I'm having one right, Jack? 143 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.000 Right now. 144 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.000 You don't have any firearms. 145 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:55.000 No, I have no firearms, and I'm only having one. I'm not gonna drink two bottles of it. 146 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:56.000 Right, right. 147 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:00.000 That's. That's the whole. That's the whole thing. Like, drinking it kind of responsibly if you're gonna. Yeah. 148 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:10.000 I never understand people that get a good head of steam with the booze and think, oh, this will be a good time to pull out the guns. 149 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:11.000 Exactly. 150 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:12.000 Yeah. 151 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.000 It's like. I don't know. I don't know what. How that. 152 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:19.000 Knives. Okay. Well, not guns. Well, yeah, you know, you could break out the knives. 153 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:30.000 Being from a rural south southern Louisiana town, I had a lot of friends that like the. The whole get. Get drunk and pull out the shotguns and let's shoot things. 154 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.000 Oh, geez. No, that's. You're asking for trouble. 155 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Yeah. Yeah, I did. It was. It was. It was nothing but trouble. As a matter of fact. 156 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.000 Yeah. 157 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:47.000 Manny was talking about something last week where the. The forest rangers were. A show where they were arresting drunk hunters. 158 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:55.000 Yeah. It's called Drunk Louisiana. It's a hunting show. It's a cop show where they. They bust drunk Louisiana hunters. 159 00:13:55.000 --> 00:14:11.000 That's probably every single one of them. I don't know. A hunter that doesn't get loaded. You know, it's not. They don't. It's. It's weird. It's weird. It's like. Yeah, it's like that. It's like their thing. I'm gonna go sit up in a stand with a gun. I better bring a bottle of bourbon. Right, Because. 160 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.000 Just to stay warm. 161 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.000 To stay warm. 162 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:14.000 That's what they say, right? 163 00:14:14.000 --> 00:15:13.000 Yeah. That's crazy. Also in the news, and they're doing it now at our former place, New Orleans Athletic Club, that we used to do this show at. It's a new aerobics kind of thing, and it's catching the nation by storm. And they're even offering it where I go. My club. It's where you put. You get a pack, maybe two packs of post it notes, and you write things that you want to get rid of in your life. You know, you want to get rid of your. Whatever, you know, your sugar. You don't want to Eat sugar anymore. Right. You know, resolutions and stuff. Or maybe things. Affirmation stuff and things like that. And you write them on these post it notes and then you stick them all over your body. You stick them all over your body and then they put on this aerobics music and you dance and you. You dance and you dance and you do all these exercises until every post it note falls off your body. 164 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:14.000 Okay. 165 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:27.000 And they're offering it at my place, and I tried to sign up for it, but they looked at me and they said, you're gonna need more than one pack of post it notes because they know me there. 166 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:28.000 Right. 167 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.000 But apparently it's taken the country by storm. 168 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.000 I hadn't heard of that. 169 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.000 Oh, yeah, you can YouTube it. It's crazy going on. Yeah. 170 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:38.000 Did you say that you could wear clothes that were like three sizes too big? 171 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.000 Well, I don't know. 172 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.000 You cover me with as many of them as you want. 173 00:15:43.000 --> 00:16:10.000 I mean, I saw footage of it. There was girls, like, in aerobic outfits, and there was girl. People just wear. It was mostly girls and people wearing just sweatpants and sweatshirts and stuff. And it was funny to watch because some of these post it notes flew off of these people really fast. And some of them, for some reason, didn't fly off at all. And they were moving just as fast. They were doing the same moves and stuff, but they just weren't coming off. So I don't know if that says anything about these people. 174 00:16:10.000 -->

00:16:15.000 Like, I would be interested in the naked post it note of Robi's class. 175 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.000 Okay, well, would you. 176 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.000 That's better than the bike ride. 177 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:24.000 We already discussed that nakedness could be. Could be a real deal. Have a lot of downsides to it. 178 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.000 I would like to. The naked drunk hunting. 179 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:31.000 Ah, yeah, that's. That's a winner. 180 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.000 All right. Shooting people on bikes. 181 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.000 Couldn't. No concealed weapons there. 182 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:48.000 Yeah. So that's a big thing that's happening now. Other than that, I'm. I'm just all hyped up about everything else except that. And I got world fever on my mind. Fever. 183 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:57.000 Well, we got. I have one more. One more piece of information before we get to the guest here. You know, we've had the. The ongoing saga of the phrase welcome in. 184 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.000 Oh, yeah. 185 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:23.000 And so since we've spoken about it on the show, now we're hearing more troubled listeners weighing in, bringing examples of people using that phrase welcome in. Like when you go into. To a restaurant or something. You know, it's a new thing that I started hearing in the last year. Or so where they start saying welcome in. Weird phrase. 186 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:28.000 Very. As a. As the. As the ex matra. D. It's just welcome, welcome. 187 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:44.000 Right, right. But no, now it's. It's a new thing. And so the Eddie V, our longtime patron and and troubled listener, weighed in. He said he heard. Heard it in a Walgreens in Flowwood, Mississippi. Somebody said, welcome in. 188 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:48.000 Well, I heard it. Well, that tracks. Chase bank commercial. 189 00:17:48.000 --> 00:18:00.000 Well, that, that. And then he said. Then he sent me the, the, the link of, of he had taped it off his television where it's. Yeah, Chase Bank. And, and the woman banker says welcome in to Chase. 190 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:05.000 Ben, did I tell you I was at Martin's Winery? And the girl said that. 191 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.000 Said that to you? 192 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:11.000 Yeah, I told you that already. And then it's not a motel. We're not a motel here. 193 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:35.000 Then, since then, an article and Apple News appeared tracing the origins of the phrase welcome in. And they say it maybe was somewhere floating around in the south or something in the early 2010s. But then in the aftermath of the pandemic that recent, huh? Yeah, it's. Well, I mean, it's. 194 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:36.000 They're saying it's a Southern thing. 195 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:37.000 Well, they're. 196 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.000 Yeah. 197 00:18:37.000 --> 00:19:06.000 Saying possibly, you know, they're trying to find the first iterations of this showing up somewhere and that. Yeah, possibly somewhere in the South. But then it got, you know, got into the hospitality industry and maybe somebody wrote articles about it or something promoting this and, and starting post lockdown that it has become more universal that people are using this in the hospitality industry. Welcome in. Strange. 198 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:10.000 I think next time someone says it to me, I'm going to tell them to shut the up. 199 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:11.000 That's one way to stop it. 200 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:12.000 Shut the up. 201 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:14.000 That's one way to stop it for sure, you know. 202 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.000 All right. 203 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:21.000 I don't know if the Southern thing works for me because usually we make things simpler. We don't add a word. 204 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.000 Yeah. 205 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:24.000 If you can get away with saying welcome, you don't say welcome in. 206 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 Yeah. 207 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 Because you have to say more. 208 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.000 That doesn't sound like. 209 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:27.000 That doesn't track. 210 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:33.000 New Orleans. That's what this article I was reading was. Was suggesting that. Well, somewhere else. 211 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.000 Yeah, it's. But, you know, I got one more thing. This Friday is Juneteenth. 212 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.000 Oh, yeah. 213 00:19:39.000 --> 00:20:10.000 Yeah. And you know, it's. It's a great holiday, you know, all that. And I was thinking about how long it took for them to get this federal holiday and stuff like that. And then I started thinking back about MLK Day and, you know, we Always talk about Florida and Arizona, right? You know, being the freaky states and stuff like that. And then I realized that Arizona was the last state to get on board to make it a federal holiday for. 214 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.000 For mlk. 215 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:31.000 Yeah. For MLK Day. I think to myself, boy, boy, you've got to be really fucking racist not to want a paid holiday. Yeah, yeah. You know, you really have to be racist to say. Say, you mean I don't have to go to work and you're gonna pay me, right? That MLK guy. No way. 216 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:32.000 Sure, sure. 217 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.000 You know. 218 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.000 Well, I guess they're committed. 219 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.000 Yeah, well, they. They finally passed it right on. 220 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.000 I think they like to drink when they hunt in Arizona, too. 221 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:47.000 Okay. Yeah, I could say that. It's not. There's not a ton of people in Arizona. It's a lot of empty space, right? 222 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.000 I. I think so. Desert. 223 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:50.000 Desert, yeah. 224 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:51.000 Yeah, yeah. 225 00:20:51.000 --> 00:21:01.000 I do love the desert, but in. Only

in small doses. Can't take the dry heat. People. People seem to love it, but not me. Well, can we get to our guest here? 226 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.000 You like the humidity heat? 227 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.000 I do like the humidity, yeah. 228 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.000 I like it to feel like the womb. 229 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.000 Yes. 230 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:12.000 I want to be 98.6 degrees and about 98% humidity. 231 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:13.000 Yeah. 232 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.000 I want to feel that's like. I've never left the womb. 233 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:21.000 I don't like to change my underwear every day down here. You have to with this humidity, man. 234 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.000 Oh, yeah. 235 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:26.000 You know, I'd rather have that dry heat going through my balls. 236 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.000 No, no, no, I don't care. 237 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:31.000 It dries out your skin. Look at this. Not a wrinkle. 57 years old. 238 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:33.000 That's right, baby. Soft. 239 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:35.000 It just stays. It's just like. 240 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:36.000 You're only 57. 241 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.000 Yeah, I'm only 57. 242 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.000 You'll get them. Don't worry about it. You already went bald. 243 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.000 I know. Yeah, exactly. 244 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.000 You already has. 245 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.000 Nothing to do with the humidity, though. Well, let's get our guest in here. 246 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:49.000 All right. 247 00:21:48.000 --> 00:22:17.000 Well, it's a guest I've known for, for a good long time. He's a terrific drummer, guitar player, songwriter, singer. He plays with bands such as Narcissi, the Bonapartes, the Low Amps. Did a lot of jobs with the great John Sinclair, also with Carlo Ditta, and has a band up there in a beat of where he lives, the Abitols. And he's also an artist and a sausage maker, and. 248 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:18.000 That's right. 249 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.000 So we're going to get into all that, find out. Maybe find out how the sausage is made before it's all. 250 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.000 Oh, absolutely. 251 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:30.000 So we're going to get into all that and more. But without further ado, the great Mr. Anthony Donato. Welcome, Anthony. 252 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.000 Well, thank you for having me, y'. 253 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:32.000 All. 254 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:37.000 Yeah, yeah. Glad you could do it. And you, you brave the potential 255 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.000 tropical storm? Yeah, yeah. 256 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.000 Forming out in the Gulf. You came, came down from Abita. 257 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:46.000 Being from south Louisiana, we don't really, you know, tropical storm, like, okay, I can make it to the store. 258 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.000 Yeah, it's not no big deal. 259 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:49.000 Yeah, right, right,

right. 260 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.000 Tell us, tell us a little bit about your background. You're not from New Orleans. 261 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:57.000 I am not from New Orleans. I'm from a little town called New Iberia, Louisiana. 262 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.000 New I. 263 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.000 About two and a half hours west of here. 264 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:05.000 Okay. Now, the Donato family been in. Been in New Iberia for some time. 265 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:50.000 No, not at all. My dad was from Brooklyn and my mom was from north Louisiana. And when my dad got out of Korea, he went to broadcasting school. And they said, hey, if you make it through this program, we promise you you will get you a job. And he was like, cool, I'm making the three. He's like, he's, you know, he said only like 40 of the guys, it's like only about 12 of them made it through the whole program. And he's like thinking, boy, yeah, I'm going to 30 Rock. I'm gonna be working in Manhattan. This is gonna be so cool. And they're like, hey, congratulations. They hand him his degree and, oh, by the way, your job is in New Iberia, Louisiana, at knir. And he's like, where is that? Like, he had no idea where Louisiana was, I don't think. And he ended up down here. 266 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.000 Huh. So he must have liked it, huh? 267 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.000 I think so. I think he did. Yeah. 268 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.000 Right on. So did he. Was that a long time career for him? 269 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:15.000 Yes, yeah. He was in radio for decades. And it was kind of cool because he's kind of like a little. He was not kind. He was a local celebrity because in the 60s, radio in south Louis, not everybody had TVs, everybody had a radio. So my dad was still in the radio was still kind of the main. The big dog. 270 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.000 So he was playing music or doing news or doing everything. 271 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:31.000 He was doing everything and that. And at that time, he was more. More the on the air guy. Like, he was. He went into like sales and managing the stations and all that stuff. But as a younger man, he was a dj, he was the news guy, he was the weather guy. 272 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:32.000 Right. 273 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:34.000 He did like the, you know, he 274 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.000 would go in hurricanes, doing AM and fm. 275 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.000 If you had fm, yes, they had fm. 276 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.000 Really? 277 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:46.000 He was working at a AM station, but he has worked. He did work at FM stations too. 278 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:47.000 Huh. 279 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.000 So that your whole time. Time growing up, he was. That was his business that he was in? 280 00:24:50.000 --> 00:25:09.000 Yeah, yeah, he was. And he like. And he would. He. For a long time. He did a lot of the commercials too. And like my. At 5 years old, I did my first commercial for a local eatery

called Cornies. And I was like, I like Corny's hot dogs and corn dogs. And that was my line. 281 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.000 Just a radio commercial? 282 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.000 Yeah, radio commercial. 283 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:17.000 Nice, nice. So did the. Did. Were you bitten by the showbiz bug early on? 284 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:49.000 Maybe. I don't. I don't really. I like that. I like doing the radio stuff, but like as far as music and Stu, I didn't have. I went to a little bitty school. Didn't have much of an arts program or anything like that. I thought music musicians were like magic, you know. I don't know how they do that. I love music. We always played it. But I was like. It was just like this foreign entity of. Wow. And then a buddy of mine learned how to play the drums and I was like, well, if that guy can do it, geez. You know. And he like. And I got him to show me a little. I like the simplest drum beat. And I kind of went from there. 285 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:57.000 Huh. Well. So down in New. New Iberia, did they have a lot of local bands playing? They have. 286 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:23.000 Oh yeah, yeah. That was. They were like, you know, in high school we had the heavy metal bands. My buddy that taught me how to band called Keystone and they would do like Rush covers and they'd, you know, all these heavy metal or more. Even more heavier heavy metal kind of stuff. And I can remember, yeah, it was pretty vibrant, you know. Like a bunch of the VFW halls around New Iberia were full of little rock bands. Just about any weekend on any given weekend, you know. 287 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:28.000 Right. Because there wasn't like a ton of stuff to do. So if you put on a show like that probably. Probably be pretty well attended. 288 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:38.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And. And the people, it. It's a fun. The people there like to party, you know, so if you give them a little chance to, they'll take full advantage of it. 289 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:49.000 Right Now, I'm assuming since your dad was from Brooklyn and he sent down here, he didn't automatically become like a drunk hunter. It was tired. None of that was around? 290 00:26:49.000 --> 00:27:18.000 No, no, no, it was around. But I can remember him telling me like the first Time. Like, the dudes, they're like, hey, Mal, come hunting with us. And he's like, I've never been hunting. What do you do? And they're like, well, you got to get up at like 3, 4 o' clock in the morning. And he's like, okay, that's X. They're like, well, then it's going to be really cold, so you're going to need some really warm clothes. He's like, ah, cold, huh, X? He's like, where are we going? We go out into the marsh. Oh, cold, wet out in the marsh. No, I don't enjoy you boys. Yeah. 291 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.000 What's the upside? 292 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.000 All right, the drinking, I guess to 293 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.000 get away from your family or something. 294

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:32.000 I don't know. That may have good that you never really got introduced to that. I mean, he didn't. I guess he just wasn't turned on by. 295 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:37.000 No, no. And he, he had been like a. He was a combat veteran, so he didn't want to play with guns anymore. 296 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:38.000 He was like, yeah, sure. 297 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.000 Not enough of that, boys, I'll have fun. 298 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:47.000 Like, he was. Korea, you said yes. Okay, Korea. So, yeah, that was. Yeah. Okay, now what about like fishing did he get. 299 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.000 Oh, yeah, he loved that. 300 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.000 He loved fish. 301 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:54.000 He loved fishing. We had a boat. We usually had a boat around and he would drag us out there. 302 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.000 And how many of you, your mom and your. How many kids? 303 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.000 I had one brother and one sister. They're both older than me. 304 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.000 All right, so the fishing was there. 305 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:04.000 Fishing was definitely there. 306 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.000 Okay, now, being from Brooklyn, does he 307 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.000 or did he like, had no idea how to fish? 308 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.000 Well, yeah, but. 309 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:19.000 Yeah, probably had no idea how to fish. But he tried, he tried the bodies. 310 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:31.000 But I mean, did he get into to automatically, like? Because I'm sure being at a radio station and having to promote businesses and stuff, he's having to go to the hot dog eating contest or across eating 311 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:35.000 contest and he would cover those. He would go and he was the guy. 312 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.000 Did he like that? Did he like crawfish? 313 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.000 Oh, he, he was all right. He ate it. He wasn't like crazy about or anything, but he was fine with it. 314 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.000 Yeah, but he liked the local color aspect of it. 315 00:28:46.000 --> 00:29:06.000 Yeah. And he, and he had fun with it. You know, he realized he was the Brooklyn kid and like, he made it work for him. He said the first thing he ever did, like, he got to New Iberia and they sent him to a livestock auction. And the main guy that they hired to call the livestock auction was Paul Harvey. 316 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.000 Oh, wow. 317 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:32.000 And his first show was Paul Harvey was doing it, and he was. The guy in the pit. Is that. Paul Harvey would be like, okay, I'm going to throw it down to Mal in the. In the pit, like, with the Animals. And my dad just was like, hey, yeah. Oh, you know, he was just, you know, like, Brooklyn Kid Fresh, never seen a pig. Was like. Just like. And he said, paul Harvey and I had a blast because he played into it and I played into it, and we just had fun with it the whole day. 318 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:44.000 Nice. Well, so are you leaving? Going out, like, to New Orleans to see. See shows as a. As a high school student or in 319 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.000 high school, we could hit. We. I would hit Lafayette. 320 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.000 Okay. 321 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.000 There was this place, the Grant Street Dance Hall. 322 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.000 Oh, sure. Yeah. Played there many times. 323 00:29:51.000 --> 00:30:04.000 I think I made fake IDs to go and see the blue runners and dash rip rock there. When I was in high school, there was another little place that came along called Jerry's, and they would pull in kind of the punk bands. 324 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.000 What year is this? 325 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:13.000 86, 85, 86, 87. Somewhere in there. Didn't start hitting New Orleans, really, until I went to college. 326 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:18.000 Okay, now, were you starting to. You're playing drums already by the time you're going to see these shows? 327 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.000 No, no, no. 328 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.000 Okay. 329 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:30.000 I started playing in college. Really. And that was just very, like. Just with partners. There was no bands. I was not in a. There was nothing organized or anything like that, so. 330 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.000 So you escaped New Iberia by going to lsu? 331 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:34.000 Yes. 332 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.000 And what did you go to school for? 333 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.000 I went to school to go to school. 334 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:40.000 Okay, sure, right. 335 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.000 I saw Animal House when I was, like, in fifth grade, and I was like, I want to go to college. 336 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:45.000 Yeah. 337 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.000 So that's the way I kind of handled it. 338 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.000 All right. 339 00:30:48.000 --> 00:31:00.000 But I did really learn how to work bureaucracy. You know, I could write. They would. You know, they tried to throw me out. And I would write a letter to the. To the board of supervisors, and they would be like, oh, it's cool. You can stay. 340 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.000 What school is this? 341 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.000 Lsu. 342 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.000 Oh, lsu. 343 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.000 Yeah. 344 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.000 Yeah, that's. That seems about right. 345 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.000 Yeah, it was. It was pretty cool. But I had. 346 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.000 I. 347 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:19.000 Pretty good writing skills. Like, I tested out a freshman English, so I could. I had. I had a little bit of, you know, they could see that I was like, oh, this kid's not completely, you know, potential. Like, he's got a little potential. 348 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.000 He's not saying welcome in. 349 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.000 No, I did not say welcome in. 350 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.000 Saying welcome, yes, you're smart.

351 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:32.000 And I learned. I learned the grammar. I remember thinking that was Important like where to put the commas and the periods and all that. That's like. 352 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.000 Sure. 353 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.000 Writing punctuation. Punctuation. 354 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:40.000 Here at the. At the two lane over here. Yeah, right. You know. 355 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.000 You know, stay right on the mic, man. 356 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.000 Professors and stuff like that, you know? 357 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:46.000 Yeah. 358 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:50.000 My grammar is just awful, you know, So I thank goodness for. For the spell check. 359 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The most useful class I ever took was called business writing or business. It was something like that, but it just taught you how to pre. 360 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.000 How to. 361 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:07.000 How to write a letter. Like, where your name goes, where the business name goes, where your name goes, how you started, how you ended. 362 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.000 Where is it? The same way on the computer, though. 363 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:16.000 That must be. It's different now because this was all, like, typewriters and hand. You know, your hand sign and all that. 364 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.000 Liquid paper. 365 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:24.000 Yeah. I'm part of the old school. It's all obsolete now. So whatever I learned is probably completely useless. 366 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:25.000 Right. 367 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:37.000 Unless I'm, like, gonna go back to the typewriter, which fonts. And who's gonna open up an envelope? What. What company still accepts, like, paper letters? Like, it's all emails now. Right. You can't really mail a letter to anybody now. 368 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.000 I had to head to mail. 369 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.000 Unless it has anthrax in it. 370 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.000 Yeah. 371 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.000 To mail a certified letter to a tenant trying to evict the other day. 372 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:48.000 So that's. That's touchy, huh? 373 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:49.000 Still got to do it. 374 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:49.000 Yeah. 375 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:58.000 It's the first one I've ever had to do that with. This guy's going bad on me. Good tenants go bad. Well, so. So you graduate from LSU or. 376 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:09.000 Yeah, I think that the unit. The institution and I decided that there was no longer a future. Yeah. Not. Not a. Yeah. I had done everything I had meant to do there. 377 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:15.000 I understand. Manny and I had similar experience in college. So from there, you don't go back to New Iberia. 378 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:25.000 You go to New Orleans. Bright lights, big city, New Orleans. Right into the Quarter. Got a place in the Quarter. Got a job at the rib room. Oh, and started working. 379 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.000 Just started bitching about tips. 380 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.000 Working as a waiter. Working. 381 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.000 Yeah. Waiter. As a waiter. 382 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.000 There's a rib room still here? 383 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 384 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.000 Where is it? 385 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.000 At the Omni Royal Orleans. It's the restaurant in there. 386 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.000 Oh, right, right, right. 387 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.000 And it's impressive, dude. 388 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.000 Is it? 389 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.000 Yeah. 390 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:53.000 They have prime rib lunches, Dude. They have a whole wall of prime ribs on our rotisserie. Own rotisseries. Just like. And I was like, yeah, this is going to be a good place to work. 391 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.000 So you had an apartment there in the French Quarter? 392 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.000 Yes, I have a little apartment in the French Quarter. 393 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:01.000 That's when. And. And what year was this? It's probably early 90s. 394 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.000 Early mid-90s. Yeah. 395 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.000 Okay. Crack 394 apartments were still relatively cheap. 396 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:23.000 Yes. I never paid more than $425 a month for an apartment in the French Quarter. And I was in the French quarter. I paid 375 in the French Quarter. And when I got evicted from that one, not that I was a bad tenant, but I was loud, I guess, from my neighbors. 397 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:24.000 Okay. 398 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.000 And then I went to middle Loud in the Quarter. 399 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.000 How did you get evicted for that? 400 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:33.000 I don't know. I don't know how you do that, but I did it. 401 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.000 Now you're. You're playing drums at this point, right? 402 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.000 Not yet. 403 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:38.000 No. Okay. 404 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:41.000 Not yet. I. I mean, I kind of know he's eating ribs. 405 00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.000 Okay. 406 00:34:41.000 --> 00:35:25.000 So I started playing drums. I moved to Mid City. Like, I gotten thrown out of the place on in the Quarter and I went to my buddy, the, the manager. I was working at a place called the Crescent Brewhouse. And the guy that was managing was moving back to Florida. And he's like, hey, man, I gotta. I'm. My pad in Mid City on Morpaw is gonna be open. You want it? And I was like, absolutely, dude, I need a house. I was kind of couch surfing and I move into the place. And speaking of that first show in, in the Grant Street Dance Hall, I get in touch with the landlord. He's like, oh, yeah, I'll be over there at the, at the other table. Antenna. It's a shotgun half. You know, we had half a shotgun. He's like, just knock on the other guy's door. And I knock on the other guy's door and it's Rob Savoy. 407 00:35:25.000

--> 00:35:26.000 Oh. 408 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:33.000 And I was like, hey man, you play for the Blue Runners? And he was like, yeah, I did. And I was like, yeah, it's nice to meet you. Whatever. So I lived next door to Rob Savoy for years. 409 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.000 Nice shout out to Rob Savoy. 410 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:36.000 Yeah, absolutely, man. Great guy. 411 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:46.000 Had many invitations to the show buddies. He has cooler heads prevail. He says, yeah, with my job, my job, I really can't. 412 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.000 Yeah, he's got a stake. 413 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.000 What does he do? 414 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:56.000 He works for Jazz Fest. He does a lot of the booking and stuff, but it's a high profile gig. He's a respectable guy. 415 00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.000 Another bass player looking man. 416 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.000 Let me tell you that. 417 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.000 He does a terrific job. 418 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.000 He's a fun neighbor too. Yeah, he was with he was with Cowboy Mouth. Most of the time I was living with him. 419 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.000 Okay. 420 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:29.000 And he would be like, hey, like Jazz Fest mornings, I'd be out on a stoop. He's like, you're going out? I was like, nah, I don't think so, man. I was like, I wouldn't mind going to get some lunch out there. He's like, hey. I was like. And he would come back and slap an all access pass on me. Oh, nice. Go get some lunch, bro. And he's like, you got to go in the Music street gate. I'm like, right on. Mosey on in. Do what I want to do. It's like, have a brass pass before. Brass. 421 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:39.000 Sure, sure, sure. Well, well, I was asking you earlier today, like, what some of the. The bands that you'd, like, played with, and you mentioned this band. Soup Chain. 422 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.000 Soup Chain. That's the first one. 423 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.000 Now, did it have the guy named Soup Chain? 424 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.000 Yes. Yes. 425 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.000 So. 426 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.000 Well, we were Manny. 427 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:47.000 It was his alias. 428 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:55.000 Manny. And I remember. I don't even know what his real name is, and don't tell me, but Manny and I remember Soup Chain from. You can tell me from the Circle Bar days. 429 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him. 430 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.000 He was. He was there. So you played in a band with him? 431 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.000 Yes. 432 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.000 Well, that must have been an experience. He's quite a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 433 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:17.000 Soup Chain was. Is. He was nuts. He was a really genuinely nuts guy, but super fun to play with because he was not quite the Jay Holland of. 434 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.000 He's. 435 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:24.000 He's not quite had. He didn't have Jay.

As many moves as Jay Holland has, but he had some great guitar moves. 436 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.000 Okay. 437 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.000 And a great player. 438 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:26.000 Narcissity. 439 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:33.000 Jay Holland from Narcissi is by far the finest guitar move. Like w. Just performer. 440 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.000 He'll do things that. 441 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.000 That. 442 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:41.000 Not only have you never seen anyone do this. You think, how did he even think that up? 443 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:42.000 Yes, yes. 444 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:45.000 Like, how did that ever occur to him? You know, like we've seen. 445 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.000 Would make you giggle. Jay Holland kind of makes you go, huh? Wait a second. 446 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000 So who else was in that Soup Chain band? 447 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:59.000 This guy named Alan Lef Floor, who I think plays for a guy named Jordan Thibodeau now. Cajun guy out of Lafayette. 448 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:04.000 Oh, I know Jordan Thibodeau. I just. I just was in. In Hawaii with him. 449 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 450 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:06.000 He's. He's terrific, man. Jordan. 451 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:11.000 I have not seen him or heard him play, but I think Allen is playing with. His name's Alan LaFleur. 452 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:42.000 Oh, man. Yeah. Jordan's Powerful man. He, he just came and performed by himself on fiddle and singing and he play the, the song on and then he would sing a couple of choruses acapella and then back to the, to the fiddle. And the audience at the Big Island Jazz and Blues Festival was wrapped. You could hear a pin drop as he was doing this, man. He followed like a all star jazz group with John Patitucci and all these heavy dudes, you know. 453 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.000 And he goes up with his fiddle 454 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:50.000 and there was not a dry seat in the house after that. And I was watching the, the chicks watched Jordan. I was like, holy cow. 455 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.000 Oh yeah. 456 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.000 They were pissing in their pants. 457 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's an older crowd. No, no, no, they were, they were getting. 458 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:22.000 I remember when I lived at the Circle Bar, I lived on the top floor of the Circle Bar and I didn't have to get up every morning around 7 to go to work. And every morning I'd get up, I'd look out the window, at least Circle. And I'd see Soup Chain on his bikes. Bicycle school. So he's coming back from the methadone clinic. Yeah, I knew, I was like, he's coming back from the Method and I'm up. So he was kind of like my alarm clock. 459 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.000 Yeah. 460 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.000 Yes. 461 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.000 Yeah. 462 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.000 Like clockwork, right? 463 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.000 Yeah, exactly. Well, it's time for me to get going. 464 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:35.000 I gave him a few rides to the methadone clinic. He was the first kind of the guy with that addiction problem that I had to deal with. 465 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:39.000 Right, yeah. The methadone addiction or the other, the other addiction. Yeah. 466 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.000 He was much better on methadone. 467 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:45.000 Yeah. Well then you get hooked on that though. 468 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.000 Yeah. Liquid handcuffs they call it. 469 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:54.000 He's, he is doing fine. He's clean and sober now and he's on back on the west coast. He was from the west coast. 470 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.000 Okay. 471 00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:01.000 He only split there because he had some, well, drug related legal problems. 472 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.000 Sure. 473 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.000 That's why he was Suit Chain. It was his alias. 474 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.000 Right. 475 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.000 And then he, once he got that straightened out and moved back out there. 476 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.000 Now I, I lucky him. 477 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:22.000 I understand that my old, old collaborator Alex Chilton produced a record on you guys when you were living at that Maripa house. 478 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.000 Yeah, he did, man. It was amazing. 479 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.000 Well, he always misfits, you know, so see him taking, taking to liking the soup change. 480 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:42.000 Yeah. The first show I ever played it was a. Was at the Mermaid Lounge. And the first show I played New Orleans was at the Mermaid Lounge and I opened it open for Alex and, and John Sinclair's band. 481 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:43.000 Oh okay. 482 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:57.000 At the time, the Blue Scholars, they were on the bill, right? And I ended up playing with both of those dudes, which is kind of funny. I had never. I would never imagine me playing with those guys at the time I played that gig because it was like, I was very rudimentary with little. 483 00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.000 Little did you know, A little bit. I know you're gonna cross paths. 484 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:17.000 I was gonna cross paths with both of them again. Alex was a lot sooner than. Than John. Alex was immediate. Like, that first show, I can remember Alex, like, walking by to put his stuff by and looking at me while I was playing, going and giving me a little head nod, kind of shaking his finger at me, like, yeah, man, you got it. You're in there. 485 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:18.000 I know you're doing that. 486 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.000 Yeah, yeah. 487 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:38.000 And he was. And then I can remember getting a call from Soup Chain at work, and he's like, hey, man, can you come play a show at the Mermaid tonight? And it was already like, 10:30 at night. I was like, well, what time? He's like, whenever you get here, just get

here as soon as you can. I was like, okay. By the time I get there, it's like midnight. There's only one person in the place, and it's Alex. 488 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.000 Okay. 489 00:41:39.000 --> 00:42:02.000 And we set up and we play a show for him and. And the bartender, and he's having a blast. He's cackling us, and he's just. Yeah, he's just. And we're having a blast, and we're just having fun. And. And after that, like, I saw him at the. He lived in the same neighborhood as I did, and I saw him at Whole Foods one day where the Cansecos is now. There used to be a Whole Foods? 490 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.000 Sure, yeah. 491 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:20.000 And he's like, hey, man, I want to record your band. And I was like, really? And I was like, yeah, okay, let me talk to the guys and see what. And eventually it was, you know, they cool. He came into my house and in our front room with my four track. My tact cassette. Four track. 492 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.000 Four track, yeah. 493 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:22.000 And recorded us. 494 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:26.000 And you're still working at the rib room at this time? 495 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:33.000 No, I had moved on from the rib room and had. By this time, I was probably in my eighth or ninth restaurant job. 496 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.000 Okay, sure. 497 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:47.000 So I worked. I worked the waiter waiting tables because I would go out and play rock shows at night and sometimes miss a shift or whatever. I was right. An irresponsible young man. But, you know, you live and learn 498 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:48.000 the time to do that. 499 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:49.000 Yeah. 500 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:54.000 Well, Manny, I think it's about that time. Why don't you tell the troubled nation what's going. 501 00:42:54.000 --> 00:43:15.000 Hey, listen, we gonna take a break. The nation knows what to do. And we'll be right back. 502 00:43:15.000 --> 00:44:34.000 They threw me in the next night when I thought it was over. You threw me out to dogs. They were getting their nails cut. Your parasite slipping into the river. You're dealing turned savior and indeed giver. You threw me in a mess snake. You throw me a nasty snakes. You set you free. You want to be just a little mixed up. You're a parasite slipping into the big one. You're a dear turned slave idea giver. You turn me out of nasty snake. 503 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:53.000 And we're back, lesbians, back with Mr. Manny Chevrolet. I am Renee Coleman, back with our guest, Mr. Anthony Donato. Now, Anthony, I know you know you were a podcaster for a while, so you understand how these things work. You know, this is a listener supported operation here. 504 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.000 Absolutely. 505 00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:05.000 Troubled Men podcast. 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Tell your enemies too. I'll be out on the road with the Iguanas and also Sunny Landreth all summer long. You can find those dates in the link I have to the iguanas.com dates page, as well as my. The Renee Coleman Facebook page, which I post all of my dates there. And yeah, you can find me. I'll be all over the place. That's Northwest, Northeast, Midwest. And it's a. Enough of that. Back to our guest, the great Mr. Anthony Donato. Now, Anthony, so we were talking about, you know, you playing with Soup Chain. And. And I think is it. Was it right about this time that you. That you meet Jay Holland? How do you get involved in. In Narcissi? 516 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:19.000 Yes. I had met Jay Holland by this time from playing at Juan's Flying Burrito. I think his. He had a man called Dentist Team 517 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:20.000 Thompson. 518 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.000 I just saw Austin Thompson in. In Nashville. 519 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.000 Oh, how is he? 520 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.000 He looks great. He's six years clean and sober. 521 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.000 Nice. 522 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:34.000 And now it's good because. Because, you know, some people, even when they're totally sober, seem kind of drunk. 523 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.000 Yeah. 524 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:40.000 You know, he. He's the tame. He seems a little loopy, you know, but it's good in a good way. 525 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:48.000 But when he was drunk, he

seemed just dry and. And simply fine. Like I never could. I never like, gee, Austin's really drunk. I've never. I never had that. 526 00:47:48.000 --> 00:48:02.000 Well, anyway, so he was. He was looking great. He was there with his. His. His lovely partner, companion, wife, whatever she is. And yeah, it's great to see him. So. So Dentine. So you. You met Jay Holland? 527 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.000 I met Jay Holland and still get dentine gum. 528 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.000 I don't see. 529 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.000 Huh. 530 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.000 No, I think that's gone. 531 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.000 Really? 532 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.000 Yeah. 533 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.000 That's a shame. 534 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:15.000 I think you can still get a blackjack gum. 535 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:16.000 You want. 536 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:16.000 You can if you want it. 537 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.000 Exactly. 538 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.000 I mean, it's weird. 539 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.000 What about Trident? Can you get Trident? 540 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.000 Yes, absolutely. 541 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.000 Is it still around? 542 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.000 It's still around. 543 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:24.000 See it? 544 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.000 Okay. 545 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:32.000 My daughter gets it. I only know that because, like, she goes to. I give her a ride to work and she'll pop some mint like a gun. It's usually Trident, so I'm like, oh, 546 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.000 good to like the cinnamon tray. 547 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.000 That's the main one. 548 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.000 Yeah. Yeah. I don't chew gum anymore, though, so. 549 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.000 Yeah, it's bad for your teeth, I think. 550 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:43.000 It's really bad. 551 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:44.000 Yeah, it's a lot of sugar. 552 00:48:44.000 --> 00:50:15.000 Yeah. So back to Jay Holland and Narcissi and how that all happened at the time. And Alex actually maybe kind of plays into this a little bit too. I seen Dentin. I knew Jay Holland. I knew that his drummer from Dentin had moved away and I was like, jay, man, we should jam. And he kind of was like, h. Maybe so, man. I don't know. And he was like, almost blow me off, but not quite. And I was playing a show at the Matador with this band called Maria and the Aftermath. I was playing drums for. And I can remember being on this is. This is my favorite Alex story. I was like. I remember playing that gig, being on stage, playing, and, like, just getting, like, smattering. Just no. No reaction from the audience whatsoever. And I'm like, why am I doing this? Why am I playing music? This makes no sense. I'm not making any money. This is blah, blah. And we start another song, and I see this guy come popping out at the end of the bar, and it's Alex. And he, like, jumps up on stage and starts. He grabs a tambourine and starts playing tambourine with me

with the. To the song. And Jay Holland is in the audience, and. And. And I'm like, hey, man, Alex, thanks for. Thanks for showing up. Appreciate it, you know? And he's like, man, you're a great drummer. You make any band sound good. And he just starts pumping my ego. And, like, I hang out with him, and he's talking to me at the bar, and I think, Jay can hear all this, or at least he sees Alex get up and chant with me. And I think that made Jay go, oh, I think I'm gonna grab that guy. 553 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.000 Okay. 554 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:20.000 While he's. He's just offered. He wanted me. He wanted to play with me, so let's see what he can do. 555 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:21.000 Alex Jones gave you some credibility. 556 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:26.000 Yeah, I think he still gave me tons of credibility with the hipsters, for sure. 557 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.000 Right on. 558 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:29.000 Because I didn't have any before. 559 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:35.000 Well, that's the thing about Alex is he didn't care what anybody else thought about something. If he liked something. 560 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:36.000 Yes, He. 561 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:49.000 That's all. All the convincing he needed, you know? And yeah, he would. He would like stuff that a lot of other people Not. Not saying you, but a lot of other people would think was, like, corny or. Or bad. And he. And he. 562 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.000 Bad? Yeah, people thought I was bad, that's for sure. 563 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.000 Cared. 564 00:50:53.000 --> 00:51:10.000 He saw it in me. He saw something. He just. Like, I can. That first man soup chain. Those dudes were always like, you need to take a lesson. And Alex was like, they're idiots, dude. Don't listen to the word they say. Listen to nothing they say. Really? And he was, like, looking at me, you know, dead eye, like, boom. Like, I'm not gonna do this if you listen to them. 565 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:11.000 Okay. 566 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:38.000 But basically, when he was recording us, they made me go and take a lesson. Like, you got to go take a lesson. We'll pay for it. So I went to Ray Fransen's and took a lesson. And I told Alex that right before we recorded. And he, like, dropped everything and said, you got to forget everything they told you or I'm leaving. And I was like, okay, cool, man. And he hated those other dudes because of that. I remember him looking over at him like, what are you, stupid? You have a piece of clay that you can mold into anything, and you're going to go tell him to go to a. 567 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.000 You're going to ruin this lesson. 568 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.000 Yeah, you're going to ruin this guy. 569 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:47.000 Okay, so back to Jay Holland. And so. So Jay Holland now is taking you seriously. 570 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:48.000 Yes. 571 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.000 But he wasn't formed yet, right? 572 00:51:49.000 --> 00:52:04.000 No, no, not yet. And then after that, very shortly after that show, Jay Holland got in touch with me and we went up to his jam room and the. The two lane. The two lane. He had one in that building off yes. 573 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.000 Yeah. Old Fountain Blow Hotel. 574 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:47.000 And we kicked like three songs immediately. Pow. Like, it happened. And it's like, all right, this is going to work. And we had the energy. Just the two piece, two pieces energy. And then we had a show scheduled, and Jerry went to a crawfish boil, like the night before, or like a. It may have been not the night before, but a few days before. He's at a crawfish boil and he cut his finger and he was playing. I guess it was the finger, the thumb or something. Something that he played the bass notes with. He had a whole rig split. Like he would play. His bass springs were split into basics. And he was. He had this very complicated rig. And once he couldn't play the bass parts with his thumb, that's when he called Bill and was like, hey, I need a bass player. 575 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:48.000 Okay. 576 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:53.000 And that's when the. And he came in. And that's when Narcissi, Bill. Yes. 577 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:57.000 And you guys have been a stable trio for what going on? 578 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:04.000 We were active for a long time. We kind of. We're not that active right now. We play every once in a while. But. 579 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.000 But I just saw you. You. 580 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:06.000 Yes. 581 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.000 Played the past to Chaz Fest. 582 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:09.000 Chaz Fest? Yeah. 583 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:27.000 Because. Because they're keeping us alive. Narcissi was always a closer. A closer for. For Chaz Fest. You're one of Alex McMurray's favorite bands, as. You are one of my favorite bands, as there's only A couple of bands I'll leave my house to go see, and Narcissus is one of them. 584 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:28.000 That's awesome. 585 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:52.000 And because as we were talking before about Jay Holland, like, you know, you. You've seen people do guitar heroics, but you've never seen. I've never seen someone, like, stick the headstock of the guitar down there and then. And then unbutton his shirt and rebutton it with the guitar under the shirt. Yeah. And then all the time, while the song is still going, yes. 586 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.000 And everything's nothing. Everything's musical. 587 00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:06.000 You and Bill are still playing away, and Jay is playing shit that's musical through his shirt, and you're going, how is this guy stabbing with his fingers through his shirt? And it still is musical. 588 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:19.000 You gave him the highest compliment I've ever heard anyone give somebody. And you said, jay, I've been in show business for over 35 years. I've seen you three times, and every time I've seen seen you, I've seen something I've

never seen before. 589 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:20.000 Yeah. 590 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:25.000 No, and that sums up Narcissi. You're gonna see something you haven't seen before if you come and see us. 591 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:36.000 Yeah. No, it's. It's something to behold, man. Now, I was. I was disappointed. This last Chaz Fest is. You guys got on kind of late and you only had, like, a 15 minute set. 592 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:37.000 15 minutes. 593 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:42.000 I think I missed, like, the first seven minutes of it because I didn't realize you were out there. I thought you're gonna start inside. 594 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:50.000 Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah. I don't know. I don't get much information from Jay before gigs. He's like, just show up, man. And I'm like, yeah, cool. All right, fine, I'll show up. 595 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.000 What kind of music is Narcissi? 596 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:53.000 It's rock. 597 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:54.000 Just rock. 598 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.000 Rock. 599 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.000 Yeah, rock. 600 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:58.000 Kind of psychedelic trash guitar rock. 601 00:54:58.000 --> 00:54:59.000 Yeah. 602 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.000 Jay's a great guitar player. 603 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:06.000 Has cool, funny songs. Songs like I Hate the South. 604 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.000 Yeah. 605 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.000 It's one of his big hits. 606 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:34.000 That's the. That's the other funny thing about Narcissi. I never listen. I couldn't understand the lyrics when we're practicing because we practice at ungodly levels of volume. So the. And once that we recorded the record, I like to listen to it. I'm like. And I'm laughing. I'm like, jay, those are great lyrics, dude. That's so funny. I'd never even. I could never even heard them before. Like, every time we play, it's so loud, all I can hear is just kind of. 607 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:45.000 Sure, sure, sure. Now, speaking of Jay Holland, you and I did one of these Jay Holland birthday lock in sessions. 608 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:46.000 Yes. Out at Studio in the Country. 609 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:59.000 Right, Right. Where we showed up on Friday, stayed Friday night, all through Saturday. And we would go into the studio, and he'd have you, me, and Sage 610 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:03.000 Moss, maybe Davey Easley was there. Am I right about that? 611 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:10.000 Could have been. You might have been there. And then. And then Jay wouldn't even play guitar. He would just walk around, he'd come in and say, he's, like, producing. 612 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.000 He's just Mr. Producing. 613 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:28.000 Like, well, not even producing in terms of record producing. He would, like, give you the parameters for an improvised scene. Like, not improvised music scene, but like a stage scene. He would give you some direction, say, okay, and. And then. 614 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:29.000 Yes. 615 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:35.000 Wrap it up at the end and kind of do something. What is this? I don't. I don't even know what you're trying to prompt me to do. 616 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:43.000 He's got the most. He's got a very unique way and ingenious way of doing things, I guess. I mean, it usually comes out pretty good. 617 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:48.000 And. And the stuff that. That he. That he gleaned from that. That session sounds great. 618 00:56:48.000 --> 00:57:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He usually has it right on. He's in one of the teams. We did on that second Narcissi record. He learned. He. He sang a lyric, and then he played it backwards, and he learned how to sing it backwards, and then he sang it backwards, and then he turned the tape around. 619 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:16.000 Then he turned the tape around so it sounds like. It sounds like David Lent. It sounds like Blue Velvet. And when you're. 620 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.000 I mean. 621 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:20.000 I mean, Twin Peaks, when you're. When you're in the. The Red Lodge. 622 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:31.000 And he sang and he was like. And then when he turned it around, he's like, please come by, or whatever. The lyrics, it was awesome. 623 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:42.000 Oh, man. He's a mad genius. So. So you're playing with Narcissi, but. But that's not the only band you've played with. You. You play in all kind of bands. The Bonaparts. 624 00:57:42.000 --> 00:59:21.000 The Bonaparts are me and my friend Katie. And Katie's also friends with Jay Holland. And we've been writing. We started writing songs because we booked a trip to Europe in the late 90s. Like, we got some tickets to Amsterdam, like, round trip for 400 bucks. And we were working at the Pizza Kitchen uptown, both of us and another waitress that worked there, and we were all like, we're going fucking. We're going to Europe, we gotta go. We're young. Whatever. Let's go do it. So we took off and we. When we were saving money to do that, and instead of going out, we would go back to her house or my house, and we would write songs. We'd get like, a. Some, like, Miller cheap Miller Ponies, and we would write songs and we start. And then I don't know who it was, but we told somebody about it, and they're like, oh, come and play with us. And we're like, yeah, sure, whatever. We'll come out and play. And we never ever asked for a gig. We never, never looked for a gig, but for some reason, people kept asking for. So we dressed. I dressed as Napoleon, she dressed as Josephine, and we did. We wrote these goofy country songs and we played. We did it up. We played the whole thing, and it was awesome. And we just. People. Once we started it, it was kind of sort of steamrolled and people. We got weird offers. Like, our best gig ever was at a wedding. They hired us to come and stand at the. The shot luge. You know how they have, like, an ice fountain and we pour a shot of liquor down it and

whatever they've been. And they paid us to sit at the ice luge at the ice shot thing and insult everybody that came up and did the thing. And it was one of the best nights of my life. It was awesome. 625 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.000 Like, I just had to drink it. 626 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:35.000 I just make. To make fun of everybody that walks up and get. And tries to. They're like, yeah, do it. Nope. And they're like, no parameters. There's a really nice wedding. Like, it's very. They're like. You say whatever you want. Don't worry about it. And we're like, ah, okay. 627 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:36.000 So what'd you say? 628 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:40.000 All kinds of stuff. We did whatever we wanted. Exactly. We said whatever we wanted. 629 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:41.000 For any of it? 630 00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.000 God, no. I was drinking. The. I was drinking. 631 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:44.000 You were drinking out of the fountain, of course. 632 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:45.000 Yeah, absolutely. 633 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.000 A pig's trough. 634 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:56.000 It was. That's a good way to describe it. It was like bridesmaids and me and every other kind of conundrum that was there. 635 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.000 Right. 636 00:59:56.000 --> 01:00:00.000 Sucking booze off of this ice tit. 637 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.000 Now, at some point, you. 638 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:03.000 You. 639 01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.000 You hightail it to the North Shore. 640 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:27.000 I do. That was right after Katrina, actually. We were looking at a house that was right by the 17th Street Canal, as a matter of fact. Really contemporary. It's a beautiful place. Super contemporary. In the lakefront. Like, gorgeous. We're like, ah, we want it. We want it. And then. Yeah. Oh, man. 641 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.000 Man. 642 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.000 Well, you. You lucked out by not having purchased that. 643 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.000 Yes, yes. And I'm serious. We were like a week away. 644 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:33.000 Oh. 645 01:00:33.000 --> 01:01:19.000 Like, we made an offer. They're like, yeah, blah, blah, whatever. It was working. Like the, the wheels were going and then kaboom. And then I went to. I was, I went to a buddy's house. And after that, all that came again. After we got back from all that, after the post K, I went to a crawfish boil in a beat at a friend's house and he had just a little, like a, like a Xerox, like a little runoff of a, of a sign that said house for sale, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, dalton is. His name is Dalton. I was like, dalton, whose house is this? It's my in laws house, man. It's a block away. I was like, I want it. He's like, it's already under contract. I'm sorry. And I was like, like, damn, man. I was like, all right, I bet if something happens, I'll let you know. And about a month later, he called me and said, that deal fell through. If you want that house, come look at it. 646 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:20.000 Nice. 647 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:32.000 And we went and took it. When we bought it, it was, it was a good deal. I mean, we got so much more for our money. Yeah. Be the Springs. It's like Mayberry. My. I had young kids. 648 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:39.000 Like, my brother in law had a, A very successful cafe there for. For a while. Beta Springs Cafe. 649 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 650 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:41.000 He. And he. 651 01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:42.000 Is he now in Gentili? 652 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:43.000 Yeah, he was. 653 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:44.000 He was. Okay. 654 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.000 Stephen. 655 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.000 Yeah, I know Stephen. I know Stephen. 656 01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.000 One of the. Yeah. Most annoying people I've ever met in my life. 657 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:51.000 Okay. 658 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.000 It's my brother in law. 659 01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:54.000 Yeah, yeah. 660 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:56.000 Herbert. Stephen Herbert. 661 01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.000 I didn't know his last name. I knew he was the guy that had the cafe. Yeah. 662 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.000 He talked your ear off, huh? 663 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 664 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.000 He talks everyone's. 665 01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:09.000 Yeah, that was the one bad thing about, like, I wish you would have spent half as much time in the kitchen. 666 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:10.000 Exactly. 667 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:12.000 Other than out. Out in the thing talking to people, you know. 668 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.000 Well, that's funny. 669 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:30.000 Well, now, so. So once you get up there on the North Shore, it's a, It's a smaller group, but it's, you know, everybody and they have a bunch of musicians that, that live up there. You fall into this, this cliff with the great Carlo Deda. 670 01:02:30.000 --> 01:03:14.000 I did. Luckily, I've met that dude. And it was a. I was interviewing for a job, which I got. I was working for James Michalopoulos. He had a restaurant in Covington called Etois for a little while and it was beautiful. It's like walking into one of his paintings, he had it all crooked. He was like. It was the, it was the most. It was the best looking room on the Gulf Coast. Like, it was gorgeous. It was a gorgeous restaurant. And I'm in, I'm in actually in interview with James. Like, we're sitting at the table. He's got his chefs bringing stuff out to us. And Carlo walks up and James goes, oh, Carlo, this is Anthony, he's an Italian drummer. And Carlo goes, oh, I've been looking for a good day. Go drummer, bro. Give me your number. And that's how it all started. 671 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.000 So he throws words like that around. Yeah, without. Without thinking. 672 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:34.000 Yeah, he does. He does throw lots of words around. Out making. As a matter of fact. Yeah, he. I think he. We coined

the phrase zago because we have Ricky come and play accordion with us. So we play. We're playing Zo. 673 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:51.000 I hadn't heard that before. That sounds like Carlo. Yeah, you know, I know Carlo from the West Bank. I remember when my father playing Timberlane Country Club when they were the, the. The Dita family were members there and his dad, Jay Ditta was a big shot. 674 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:52.000 Oh, yeah. 675 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:59.000 Show up and would. I remember his dad sitting in with my father's band singing the Way We Were. No, my Way. 676 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:00.000 Nice. 677 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:05.000 Where he changes the words to I Did It My Way. 678 01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:11.000 I've heard Carlo describe his dad as the Tony Soprano of Gretna. He really many times. 679 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:20.000 He was that big kind of dude, like that big personality, friendly guy. But you would, but scary too. Like you wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of it, man. 680 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:21.000 Exactly. 681 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:41.000 But, but yeah, did a concrete, you know. And so, so then, then I, I actually worked with Carlos, starting on the Guitar Slim junior Record, which wound up being a Grammy nominated record. And then I, I play. He used me on the, the Willie deville Victory Mixture record. 682 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:42.000 That's his gold record. 683 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was. That was a terrific record. Had, you know, everybody from Dr. John, Alan Toussaint, Eddie Bowe, another guy that lived up there on the North Shore. Billy Gregory played. 684 01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:14.000 Oh, I love Billy Gregory. I got to play with Billy many times with Carlo. And that man was incredibly interesting. Has never. He could, he could talk. Like we would pick him up, man, in Lacombe. Like he lived in Lacombe, had a house in the com. We pick him up in Lacombe to go to a gig at Three Muses. Or somewhere on Frenchman. 685 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.000 He would talk the entire time. 686 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:20.000 The entire time. Like, we get about halfway across the causeway, Carl would be looking back at 687 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.000 me like, is he gonna stop? 688 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:27.000 What's gonna happen here? And he just. He could not. And. 689 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:28.000 But. 690 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:32.000 And player. My God, Billy was such a. Like, he was just outstanding. 691 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 692 01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:39.000 I loved the. Yeah. Everything he did, and he loved playing with me. He was like, man, I love playing with you. 693 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:45.000 And I was like, it's easy, cuz it's. It feels good. You don't. You don't make it hard when it doesn't need to be hard. 694 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:46.000 Yeah. 695 01:05:46.000 --> 01:06:02.000 And. And because of that quality, I think that's why you play in so many bands. Because, like, well, let's get Anthony. He's not going to torture us. It's not going to be a struggle. And. And so through. Through Carlo, he, you know, he had this associate. Carlo Ditta had this association with John Sinclair. 696 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:07.000 Yes. And John. And I got to play with John many times, and the. 697 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:13.000 The only time I got to play with John was right before the Pandemic hit. And. And you and I were on the. 698 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:14.000 I. 699 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.000 You. You and I played together there. 700 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. North Shore. St. John's Coffee House, I think it was. Yes, it's kind of a. Kind of a cool room. It was awesome. I remember that show. I think my band might have opened up. I think the low amps may have opened. 701 01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:33.000 Low amps? Did. It did open up. Yes. But that was a thrill for me to. To get to actually play a gig with John Sinclair. 702 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:34.000 Isn't it not. Isn't it cool? 703 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:45.000 And. And, you know, we. We were trying to do a podcast with him right as the Pandemic was starting, and because. Because Carlo had it all lined up, and then it's like, no, everything got shut down. 704 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:53.000 So, you know, while I was playing for him, Robert and I interviewed him for Abida Springs Radio. 705 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:58.000 Okay, so. Yes, you and Robert Snow, Sidney Snow's son. 706 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.000 Yes. Another bass player extraordinaire. 707 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:02.000 Great bass player. 708 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:55.000 We did a little podcast thing called Beta Springs Radio. And when I was playing with John, we had it going on, and I was like, hey, John, you think we could interview? He's like, yeah, just come by Carlos and do it. And we. I remember setting up and John kind of rolling his eyes because we did it very minimalistically with a phone. And he, of course, was kind of professional at it because he's got a whole network set up. So it. The. The interview started really kind of weird. Like, Carlo was talking a Lot. And the phone fell and all this stuff happened. And then we got. Everything started straight, and I kind of pulled it back into, like, talking to John. And he and Robert started talking and they started talking about the MC5 and how people wouldn't want. He. Like, people. They wouldn't want to open. They didn't want mc5 opening for him anymore. And because they were blowing people off the stage. 709 01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.000 Follow them. 710 01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.000 Yeah. And then John. 711 01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:01.000 John. For those who don't know, John Sinclair was the manager for the MC5. 712 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.000 Yes, yes. Amazing band of Detroit from the 60s. 713 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.000 And. 714 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:11.000 And then, you know, he managed the Stooges, Iggy

and the Stooges, which was kind of a junior band to the MC5. 715 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:21.000 And that. A story he told me was on that interview was that Blood, Sweat and Tears, the guys from Blood, Sweat and Tears called him and said, hey, we're coming through Detroit. We need an opener. Not y'. 716 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:22.000 All. 717 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:33.000 We don't want MC5. We want somebody else. You got friends, you know, anybody. And John's like, yeah, I know a band called the Stooges. They'd love to open up for you. 718 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:34.000 They had no idea. 719 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000 And you just sent them another one that was. 720 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:41.000 No. No picnic to follow. Just exactly. You made me. 721 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.000 So. 722 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:45.000 So I bet they didn't. I don't know if they called him anymore. 723 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:50.000 Yeah, we don't need any more suggestions. 724 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.000 So. 725 01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:54.000 Man, it's a. It's a. It's a rich scene over there. It's crazy. 726 01:08:54.000 --> 01:09:20.000 And surprisingly, surprisingly rich. When I moved over there, like, I mean, I've been in the city for almost 20 years, and, like, I'm thinking, oh, man, this is gonna be. This is gonna be a drag, you know, kind of. But. But I'm like, My kids. I've got. It's gonna be like Mayberry. My kids would skateboard at school, you know, ride their bikes to school and stuff. And it was just, like, so cool. It was just very, very naked. 727 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.000 They would ride naked if they wanted to. To. Yeah, yeah. 728 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:26.000 If they wanted to. And I put clothes on them once they got there, but. 729 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:27.000 Wash the seats. 730 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Sometimes. Sometimes. 731 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.000 Anyway, sure. 732 01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:49.000 But. But. And then once I met Carlo and I started meeting other people up there, it was like, wow. Holy cow. This is like. I mean, it's as talent rich as this beautiful city is, too. Yeah, it's not per capita. I think it's just a talent per capita. 733 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 734 01:09:50.000 --> 01:10:00.000 And then I started meeting, like. Like, even further, like Folsom. Like, I met a trumpet player, this old British guy. At Folsom. I can't remember his name to save my life, but he's incredible. 735 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.000 Yeah. 736 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:09.000 Like he just sat in. But he plays in New Orleans all the time. He's got a steady somewhere. And I was like, wow. And you live in Folsom? Like that's like. 737 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.000 Yeah. 738 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:18.000 A lot of people that. That New Orleans seems too dangerous for them or something or they just. They like the country. A lot of people like to be around the woods. Not me. 739 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:20.000 Yeah, 740 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:25.000 but a lot of people like that kind of thing, you know, it's worth. Worth them taking a 30 minute drive. 741 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:36.000 Yeah. But I don't know that I like the. I like Abita because it's like kind of still a city. Kind of still. Like I live in a Brooklyn without the people. 742 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:37.000 Yeah. 743 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:45.000 I can walk to my doctor, my dentist, a store, several restaurants. You know, there's just several amenities. I'm in downtown, like right in. 744 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.000 Okay, downtown. 745 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:51.000 And I'm telling you, downtown, small town is the way to go. 746 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:53.000 Yeah, I could see that. Like you said Mayberry. 747 01:10:53.000 --> 01:11:00.000 Yeah, it's Mayberry. It's got pretty much the amenities of a large city with maybe not so much of the selection. 748 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.000 You're known as the goober. 749 01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.000 The goober. 750 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:04.000 Yeah. 751 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.000 I don't. Maybe. I don't. Hope not. But maybe. 752 01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.000 Or you're Floyd the Barber. 753 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.000 I'm not Otis. I used to be Otis. 754 01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:13.000 Used to be Otis. 755 01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:17.000 I maybe used to be Otis, but I'm not Otis anymore. I'm like the stoner Otis. 756 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:18.000 Okay. 757 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:26.000 Is what I am in Abita Springs. I'm like the guy that's good. Yeah, yeah. I'm the stoner Otis. I don't drink anymore too much. But except tonight. 758 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:49.000 Just one. One to get you started. One or two to get you started. Well, we're kind of on the downslip of the podcast. But you know, one, one thing that you know again, you know, Alex Chilton is one of those people that will show up in your life and then keep coming up in your life. And in many ways you actually backed up Alex Chilton on his final set in life. 759 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:50.000 Yes. 760 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:58.000 Which my wife was there at the big top and saw that set and I was, I was out of town or something. She said, oh, I saw Alex play today. 761 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:26.000 Jay Holland kind of started that whole thing. There was a. I think a earthquake in Haiti or something like that. And he's like, hey, man, we should do something for them people in Haiti. And I was like, what do you want to do? He's like, I don't know. Some Kind of show or something. And I was like, I'll see who I know. I'll call. Maybe I'll call Alex and see what if he'll do it. And so I did. He was the first person I called. I say, hey, Alex, we want to do a benefit for Haiti. He's like, yeah, man, I'm in. I was like, what songs you want to do? He's like, I don't know. We'll wing it. Don't worry about it. 762 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.000 Yeah. 763 01:12:27.000 -->

01:12:41.000 And I was like, all right, cool. And I'm down with that. I'm completely down with that. Yeah, no problem, bro. So he comes in, and then he, like, he gets there, and he's like, who's the bass player? And I'm like, it's my buddy Trey. And he's like, can he read? I was like, what do you mean? 764 01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:42.000 Can you read? 765 01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:51.000 Yeah, he can read. He's illiterate. What do you mean? He's okay. Read music. He's like. I was like, I don't know. I never asked him. So he was. He was kind of adamant about his bass player reading. Be able to read what? 766 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:53.000 Like, Alex had charts? 767 01:12:53.000 --> 01:13:02.000 I guess so. I guess so. But we were doing, like, Ernie Kato tunes. And I'm like, dude, you don't need to chart that, bro. We know it. It's like, I. I'd played that song. I played all those songs, like, 100 times. 768 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.000 Never seen Alex pass out charts before. 769 01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:05.000 Whatever. 770 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:06.000 Sure. 771 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:53.000 Yeah, exactly. So, dude, like, this is like, Alex is. And we're playing, and he turns around to me. He's like, hey, man, try hitting the snare on the 2 and the bass on the 4. And I was like, you want me to count, man? He wanted me to play a shuffle, and I was like. And because he asked me that, and I was like, you, bro? And I just completely torched the next song. Like, we played that song. He wanted to shuffle. I said, oh, you want to shuffle? And he was like, I was torturing him. Like, I was just around torturing him. He's like, look. Looking back at me, like. And then the next tune, he's like, all right, let's do boom. And I pop into that exact shuffle that he wants. And he's like. He just turns around, looks at me, and gives me this shitty. And grin, like, okay, you got me. 772 01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.000 All right. 773 01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:12.000 Well, that's. That's right up his alley as far as the sense of humor. Yeah. And because he liked to do that to people, too. Yeah. Yeah. I could see why you guys got along yeah, but sadly, Alex played that show and, what, like, two or three days later, passed away. 774 01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:13.000 Passed away. He was cutting his grass. 775 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:15.000 Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. 776 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:16.000 It is. 777 01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:29.000 You know, I've. I've heard that gig referred to over the years by a bunch of different people, you know, did they like the world at large? Well, not. Not people that weren't there, but just people referring to that gig. 778 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:30.000 Yeah. 779 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:32.000 So that performance looms in. 780 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:33.000 In. 781 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:58.000 In it. Does it? I think that Keith Spira wrote about it in his book Groove Interrupted. I think I got a phone call from a friend one day and was like, hey, man, you're

in a book. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, I'm reading Keith Spir's book. There's, like, a chapter about you and Alex Chilton. And I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that. He interviewed me about that after his death, and I told him about that show, and that's the way he kind of wrote about that show. 782 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.000 Same chapter. So you have things coming up in the future? 783 01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:16.000 I do. I've been painting. My grandmother was an artist. I grew up around artists. I grew up in art studios. I got thrown out of my first. Only art classes I've ever taken. F5. I got thrown out at 5. 784 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000 Okay, like the one drum lesson you took? 785 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:31.000 Yeah, yeah, because I got thrown out of five because the guy who is actually now a very successful artist, he let me drink coffee. So I'm like five years old, and I drink, like, four cups of coffee. 786 01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:33.000 All the sugar, sausages. 787 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:34.000 Oh, we'll get to that. 788 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000 We'll get to that. Couple minutes. 789 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:37.000 Oh, I am a. 790 01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:38.000 Okay. 791 01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:39.000 That's what I do now. I'm a sausage maker. 792 01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.000 Yeah. What's the name of your company? 793 01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:44.000 T Rays Sauce, Buddha and Cracklin. 794 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:45.000 Where can we. 795 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.000 It's on Mandeville. You can find us on Facebook. 796 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:51.000 Facebook. Or anything like that. 797 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:55.000 No, no, we gotta. We've got a. A place. We got a. 798 01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:56.000 We gotta come to you. 799 01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:02.000 Yes. You play lunches every day, like, at Roses or. No, Not Rouses. 800 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000 That's a whole different ball game or boutique operation. 801 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:18.000 It is. It is. It's all our own. It's our own stuff. We're like, the best Stop. Or somebody like that. Or like, we do our. We do Buddha, we do head cheese. We do, you know, all the Cajun sausages on Dewey. Hot sausage, smoked sausage. 802 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:19.000 It's all pork, though. 803 01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:26.000 All pork? Yeah, all pork sausage. We make Italian Picarlo. You know, he comes and gets some Italian sausage. 804 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.000 I don't like the hog heads. Yeah, it's like. 805 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:33.000 No, it's okay. It's a. It's a. It's. It's a. Yeah, yeah. 806 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:34.000 It's like a pork jello. Yeah, yeah. 807 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:35.000 Disgusting. 808 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:35.000 Yeah. 809 01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:36.000 Yeah. 810 01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000 It's a acquired taste. 811 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:39.000 Yes. Yeah. Not for. 812 01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.000 And luckily, they're the. A lot of people

have acquired the taste. Our hog. 813 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:45.000 What's the name of the company again? 814 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:55.000 T Rays, Budin and Cracklins. It's in. It's on Highway 59 in Mandeville. You can get all your Cajun charcuterie needs. 815 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.000 Well, I'll promise you one thing. I'm never going to go. 816 01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.000 Okay. 817 01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.000 Okay. 818 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.000 But you don't go to the north, shorty. 819 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:02.000 No, I don't. 820 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.000 You're afraid of that place. 821 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:04.000 Like, it's. 822 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:05.000 He barely comes here. 823 01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:06.000 Yeah. 824 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:07.000 Yeah. 825 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:07.000 Well. 826 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:09.000 So you have an art show coming up, though, just to plug that? 827 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:10.000 I do. 828 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:21.000 On the way here, I was like, I don't have a show to push. So I stopped in at the Pizza Kitchen at Carrollton, at the Riverbend there. My friend Rob, who owns the place, I used to work there for years. 829 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:22.000 Okay. 830 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:47.000 And I'm like, hey, man, I'm going to do a podcast, and I don't have a show to push, and I want to put some art up in your restaurant. And he said, I would love that, Anthony. I got one more artist after this. How about Labor Day? So Labor Day, somewhere around Labor Day, L.A. pizza Kitchen at the Carrollton Circle there at Carrollton, where the river bend. The Riverbend. That's it. Thank you. The Riverbend. The Riverbend. The Pizza Kitchen at the Riverbend. I will have an art show up somewhere around Labor Day. 831 01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:48.000 Lpk. 832 01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:49.000 Lpk, baby. 833 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:51.000 That's it. Well, that sounds fabulous. 834 01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:52.000 Nice. 835 01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun. It's fun being me. It really is. 836 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:57.000 That's great. 837 01:17:57.000 --> 01:17:58.000 It's. 838 01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:01.000 It's. It's fun for us to watch you being here. We're all enjoying it. 839 01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:02.000 Great. 840 01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.000 I hope we're happy to hear you. And we're not, though. 841 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:06.000 Okay. 842 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.000 Yeah. Yeah. You should be. 843 01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:09.000 We're all being ourselves. 844 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:10.000 Yes. 845 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:10.000 Yes. 846 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:15.000 As it should be. Well, Anthony, what a fun time, man. Thanks so much for. I'm glad we were finally made. 847 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:16.000 Yeah. 848 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:24.000 Able to make this happen. You've been in the book for so long. Cannot tell you. As always on the Troublemen podcast, we like to say, trouble never ends. 849 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:28.000 But the struggle, Anthony, always continues. Good night. 850 01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:29.000 Yes, it does. 851 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:30.000 Good night. 852 01:18:30.000 --> 01:20:31.000 Super fun. The Global Watchdogs finally won one. They're gonna dig up a great big hole Nowhere to go. Super fun we got a real life super fun home we're gonna dig up a great big hole Gonna roll it all, you know Gonna cover it up with a great big tar but why the bunny's go. The great wood hair there.