บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ GHOSTS, CRYPTIDS, AND FAERIES WITH JAMI AMD JENNY KING

00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.000 And I was like, Oh, that's in here. 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:27.759 In here, yeah. 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:42.160 We had our yoga mat, and I put my yoga mat down in the in the one room, and it was a display case with prisoners display like it was a display, and then there was the electric chair that they called Old Sparky. 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:42.959 Okay. 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:48.959 I let Jetty sleep next to Old Sparky and lay next to the display case. 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:49.600 Yeah. 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:54.399 And I remember this, it it's paranormal, but it's a weird kind of paranormal. 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:55.040 Yeah. 00:05:55.279 --> 00:06:08.160 We were laying on the ground, we had just laid down to go to sleep, and I put the covers over my head, and at that point, I went from being on the ground to above myself, and I'm looking down at our body on the ground. 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:08.879 Uh-huh. 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:18.639 And two men walked into the room, and they and I asked them, I'm I'm looking down at my body, and I said, Can you what is your intention? 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.680 And like what I what you would think. 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:35.120 They looked up, like they looked up, which I would say it's almost like they were looking at my consciousness, and they were just curious, and then they stepped over Jenny's head, and they into the other room, and they went down this flight of stairs. 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:42.000 And then at that point, I came back down into my body, and I took her, and I said, Jenny, was there anyone in the room? 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:42.560 Uh-huh. 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:47.120 And I said, Yeah, I said there was I just somebody stepped on my pillow. 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.279 I felt like somebody almost like a pillow with a pair of boots on. 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.040 Oh, oh wow. 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.000 Oh man, wow. 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:56.639 Yeah. 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:01.920 And then we went into Scott's office and I said, Scott, can you tell me answer a question for me? 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:09.279 I said, I know you wanted us to stay in this room because there's a lot of paranormal activity, but can you answer this one question for me? 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:11.839 Was there a flight of stairs in that other room? 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:12.399 Yeah. 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.319 And actually, Jamie, there was. 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:19.759 He said it was an exit for the warden and his family in case there was a riot. 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:25.279 So there's a display case that they would move and they would go down, like they would go down this flight of stairs. 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.519 So it was kind of validating in that sense. 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:29.120 Like, yeah. 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:39.439 And I think our perspective as volunteers and tour guides is a little bit different than other people that go into a location because we're not necessarily ghost hunting. 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:40.000 Right. 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.600 They're giving historical tours and we're talking about the history. 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:49.920 So when stuff happens that we can validate from historical information, it's really, it's really neat. 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:50.560 Yeah. 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:51.759 Oh, absolutely. 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:52.240 Yeah. 00:07:52.399 --> 00:08:04.079 So so what made you guys want to explore the paranormal a little bit, you know, further than you know, simply being a tour guide at a at a haunted location? 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:05.040 Hmm. 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:13.839 Well, I think um we've always been seekers and and wanting to know what is the unknown and different aspects of it. 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:22.639 Um, I think we just kind of got into it because somebody we know also was a paranormal investigator, yeah, and like to go ghost hunting. 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.000 So then we were like, hey, let's we like this, let's do it. 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.399 It was it wasn't like we didn't think it was too weird or we weren't scared. 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:30.800 Right. 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:36.639 Maybe Jenny's her perspective's a little different, but for me, I lost both my parents. 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:41.120 So losing a relative, losing a parent is very different. 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:48.240 So I had extremely interesting experiences after my parents died that I explained. 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:58.080 And I don't want to say it was haunted, but I want to I want to explain it more like it was something letting me know that there's something beyond who we are and this life live here. 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:02.480 So just interesting things happened to me after my parents died. 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:10.399 Like uh my father, this is really strange, but one of the last movies that I watched with my father was a movie called Harry and the Hendersons. 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:10.879 Okay. 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:18.559 And I went into like this deep depression, and I remember Jenny said you need to get back out and do the things that you used to do. 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:19.679 So we went on this hike. 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:29.120 Yeah, we were on we went on a hike, and this hike, I had what we had what we believe was a Bigfoot experience. 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:36.720 And like days afterwards, I kept replaying it in my mind, and I I didn't think about that movie that I watched with my dad. 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:37.600 Yeah. 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:40.799 It can't it hit me when I was driving in my car. 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.480 I'm like, the last movie that I watched with my dad was Harry and the Henderson. 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:45.279 Oh wow. 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:50.240 Too weird, too synchronistic, you know, like there was too much to it. 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:58.240 And then even after my mom passed away, I had really strange

things happen that made me think that the paranormal is more normal than we realize. 00:09:58.480 --> 00:09:58.720 Yes. 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:00.000 Oh, yeah, I love that. 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.320 The paranormal more normal than we realize. 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:03.840 Yeah, no, I love that. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:04.720 That is awesome. 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:05.440 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:06.000 Wow. 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:06.559 Wow. 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:07.039 Yeah. 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:08.720 And I've never thought about that. 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:09.440 Yeah. 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:20.799 But it but it truly is because honestly, it's you know, there it's beings living kind of like how we are in another dimension or another, you know, another realm. 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:26.879 I mean, yeah, I mean, because you know, we're we're not the only dimension or realm here. 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:29.679 Absolutely not. 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:30.399 Yeah. 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:56.159 So um, and I know uh you guys uh talked a little bit about earlier about some of the experiences that you had as uh tour guides in uh at Haunted Hillview and uh in a couple other places, but um but what was the paranormal experience that had the most impact on you, would you say? 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.120 Like in a good way, a bad way? 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.960 Well, the one I just mentioned was in a bad way, yeah. 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:05.679 I'll say, wow, yeah. 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:06.720 I don't know. 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:16.720 I've had some experiences um where we went uh to a location and a girl hung herself because she got pregnant by the husband. 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.559 There was a husband and wife that had this home. 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:28.480 This is like I think in the late 1800s, but she got pregnant, so she hung herself in the attic, and we went to the attic to investigate, and I remember I just started crying. 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:29.039 Yeah. 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:30.960 And I'm like, why am I crying? 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.799 But then I realized I was feeling her pain. 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:40.000 That's the first time I that this was years ago, was the first time I experienced that. 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:45.279 Where I could feel that was in towards Pittsburgh, like down there at that one. 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:46.960 I can't even remember the name of the place now. 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:47.279 I'm sorry. 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.159 That was almost like we've been doing this for a long time, really. 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:58.080 Like yeah, but I certainly remember that feeling of pain and how she felt and why she did. 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.240 Oh my gosh, yeah. 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.480 Wow, yeah, yeah. 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.240 What about you, uh Jamie? 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:14.720 For me, I think just the opportunity of being a tour guide in those locations, you really start looking at it in a different way. 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:24.960 Like I have a curious mind, and I think that when I'm looking at the paranormal, I think in terms of energy, and that building, I would say I would say the two buildings are very different. 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:25.360 Yeah. 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:41.519 Interact with us, and it literally we didn't have to be working as tour guides, we could just be in the building cleaning and things would happen. 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:54.240 Um, and then I that that took me to start questioning a lot of things as more like energy, and even now to this day, I don't really call it ghost hunting, I call it like interacting with energy, and I call it contact. 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.240 Okay, that's what I do. 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:06.879 Like, we really we started kind of a series of our our own experiments with nice thing, like like you like you had told at the beginning that um research the bae, right? 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:15.679 True, I thought, you know, if we've had a ghostly experiences, if we've had what we believe to be a bigfoot experience, then can we call the face? 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:22.480 We started going out into the woods and doing that kind of stuff that's like contact, and I call it contact. 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:57.919 And then you're connecting right, and Jenny and I both like after my parents died, I ended up going to grief counseling, uh-huh, and it was her cousin that was the grief counselor, and she we started talking to her, and we started this group called the Free Thinkers, and she had people that would come into this group, and they had all facets of paranormal experiences, and we all sat around and we fed off of each other's energy and parked about it, and we did little field trips with people, and we also got connected with um a woman who's a preacher who had believed she was abducted. 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.279 Oh wow, that's super interesting in itself. 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:08.720 So, you know, we went on this little field trip with her, and it we started doing this thing called C SETI, which is based off of Dr. 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:15.120 Steven Greer's protocols of making contact with ETs using human-initiated contact. 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:15.519 Okay. 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.399 I expected probably not to have anything happen. 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:28.480 You know, just thinking, you know, like I'm gonna watch this lady what she does, and her meditation she goes through that's based off of his protocols. 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:29.200 Yeah. 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:46.639 And literally the first night that we were there, and it's like a field, it was like a field trip for us with a group of people from that free thinker group, and we went into this meadow and we were doing the meditations, and we were putting out human intentions of making contact with ETs. 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:53.759 Okay, and we packed up the night, like we had nothing happen

in the sky, and I thought this is kind of a bust, but it's super interesting. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:54.240 Right. 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.840 We're leaving and we were packing up our chairs. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:00.240 This light appeared above our heads. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:19.120 Oh wow, shined down on us, illuminated the ground around us, and we all stood there like really happening, like really yeah, and then it just took off, like it took off, like not like an airplane would take off, but just super like in and out, like a light that just goes off. 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.639 Wow, it was really funny. 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:33.679 These are things that make you question how we interact with the world around us and how we have tensions and our heart space, like all of that. 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:38.960 So, like, yeah, that's how I view everything now is energy, energy, yeah. 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.360 And our thoughts our thoughts are a highway, mm-hmm. 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.879 And you probably already know all of this, you are, I'm sure. 00:15:48.480 --> 00:16:00.639 No, but it's still it's interesting to like hear hear other people talk about it because you know, and and that's the thing, and you can always, even if I already know about it, like you can always add a fresh perspective to it. 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:19.519 And yeah, I I do believe too, like, yeah, our thoughts are definitely highways and that we're all kind of interconnected in a way, and especially, you know, and and as they say, like children typically are the most like psychic, the most psychically sensitive. 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:49.600 Um, but then it's it's like as we grow and get into adulthood and have all of this, you know, I will, I'm gonna say garbage from all of like the media and you know, just you know, people telling us how things are supposed to be, and people, and and a lot of people just kind of like without knowing it, willingly giving away their power to these entities, these other, you know, like conglomerates and oligarchs and all of that. 00:16:49.840 --> 00:17:00.399 And and and and and that, and and and then, and especially if you, you know, and and nothing against like, you know, I don't know. 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:09.839 I don't won't know if I want to say nothing against religion because some of us have some like religious trauma right here, but like, um but it's like but but that's the thing though too. 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:18.400 And then you're like saying that um that like, oh, like if you your psychic abilities are bad or wrong and all that stuff. 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:35.839 And it it took me quite some time because I've always been very sensitive to spirits and other entities and thoughts and all that stuff, and um you know, but and it but it took me for quite some time to just embrace that again as as as part of me, you know. 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:46.400 So, so like what are your thoughts on that of how like when we

grow up and depending on how you grow up, you know, it's um sometimes, yeah. 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:54.640 I mean, in fact, I'd say the majority of the time people lose that those psychic, you know, the their their natural gifts. 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:59.920 Yeah, but it's it does happen because when we're kids, we're so open. 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:00.480 Yeah. 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:08.880 Because we don't, you know, have those filters or that programming quite yet to tell us how to be or how not to be. 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:09.920 Right, yeah. 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:16.640 Yeah. 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:25.359 And that's that's a shame that you know we have that programming that you know as you're talking, I kept thinking about structure. 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:32.160 So, like we're building structure of religion, it's it's uh principles that you learn. 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:47.759 And then to me, it's about uh unlearning all of that and just basically going back to who you are as a human being, and how do you move through the universe, not just the world, the universe and the cosmos, yeah that way. 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:57.440 Like, you know, we I wake up every morning, it's and I ask the universe to show me something that will make me go, wow, you know, like something really minute. 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:06.799 But I find out in in my day, I'll find out that I've had this wow moment, and to me, like like I think people have lost curiosity. 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:28.640 It's an important thing to have, like, especially in the paranormal field, keep that curiosity and like the I've had I've had this like real hunger for the paranormal, for it to be taken seriously, and there are different factions of like you know, like science, like science, different scientists that are studying it. 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:29.759 But are they truly? 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:49.839 And I think to myself, there's so many people that I've met yeah whole life experience with the paranormal and the people that come into these buildings that we've met, people that we've met at Bigfoot conferences, people at the UFO conferences that really have valid things to say, and like yeah, you can learn a lot from people if you just learn to listen. 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.160 So we become really good listeners. 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:58.960 Now you don't seem so crazy or weird when you're talking about it because more people are open to it. 00:19:59.200 --> 00:19:59.839 Yeah. 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:00.960 Yeah. 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:19.440 Now, what are your thoughts on um, because I know I I want to touch on this a little bit too when you said our thoughts are our pathways, and like are you talking about how um even if just subtly we're sending like communication to each other telepathically all the time? 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:25.519 Um, and you know, and then you get into the whole thing with like manifestation and all of that. 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:27.440 What are your thoughts on those? 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:35.680 Yes, I mean I think we energetically we are communicating with each other all the time, even if you're not saying anything. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:44.640 Yeah, grocery store, and if you get close to someone, your energies are mingling, you are gonna pick up on certain things. 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:51.200 I'm sorry, I'm moving the camp for the I that is definitely yes. 00:20:52.079 --> 00:21:08.160 Not to say anything, like sometimes you can feel something from someone, yeah, you know, you don't even know them, you know, and it could be good or bad or indifferent or whatever, but I mean, for me too, I grew up kind of like um like this hippie lifestyle. 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:10.799 My parents were like Johnny Cash and Jude Carter Cash. 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:12.000 Oh, that's awesome. 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:13.599 I love it. 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:27.680 I had like this musical background, and I had brothers and sisters, so I hung out with my hippie sisters when I was younger, and I grew up with like almost like this cult like smoke marijuana and praise Jesus. 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:33.759 Like they were we would go to this Jesus revivals where it was like Woodstock. 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:40.720 Oh I literally at that point, when I was a little kid, rejected a lot of it and thought, This is all crazy. 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.839 Like, why are we praying to this God that we don't know? 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.079 And uh I questioned a lot of religion. 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:52.640 And then as I got older, I realized, you know, like it's energetic, and I think all of that stuff is personal for us. 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:53.359 Right. 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:59.680 What became more important to me was uh the 12 universal laws, and I started studying the law of nature. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.839 And I think those are they have more power for me than anything. 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:05.279 Yeah. 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:16.880 Yeah, like like which um which of the universal laws would you say um had the biggest impact on you, or is there one that you tend to practice more than others? 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.440 Um you know, I think the law of polarity. 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.000 So the law of polarity is really an interesting one. 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.480 Like we always think about different when really there's more similarities. 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:28.880 So that would that would always struck with me. 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:34.319 And just manifesting in general, like literally how to manifest. 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:43.039 Like I think some people are natural at it and some people have to work at it, but I think it's part of that whole 12 universal laws. 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:45.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:23:06.079 Because and and I'm because I'm sure we've all had that, you know, even just the little experiences of oh, you're thinking about somebody that you

haven't talked to in a while, and oh, they come up on your like for you page on like Facebook or Instagram, or they actually do reach out to you or send you a friend request or something. 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:09.839 And I mean, I'm sure we've all even just had little things like that happen. 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:20.960 And you're just like, oh wow, I was just thinking literally just thinking about that person the other day, and and then here they are, and or or sometimes because that's the thing too. 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:34.079 Um, a lot of people kind of treat manifestation as something you just start doing when you're doing it all the time, and you can manifest both the good and the bad, you know. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.480 So it's hard to like, did I manifest this? 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.839 Like it was the thinking, the thought process that I was going through. 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.519 Like, if I'm at work and something bad happens, I'm like, maybe I created that. 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:53.359 Like, we I think that you know, like I'll really I'm gonna say this like one of the most important things that happened to me was that whole grief counseling. 00:23:53.519 --> 00:24:09.680 It's hard for me to say that losing my parents was one of the best things that happened to me, but it changed my life in a very profound way where I started seeing the in a different way, and it opened me up more to life than I was living with my parents here. 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:25.279 And I don't know where I'm going with this, but for me, that's where it really started when I lost that I really cared about, so then I really started focusing on what is life and how are we living, and all the stuff beyond who we are, and oh, I know where I was going. 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:30.160 So the free thinkers with the uh grief counseling, Jenny's cousin helped me in so many ways. 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:31.279 She's a psychologist. 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:32.319 Oh wow. 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.599 But we really started doing um different things with remote viewing. 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.119 Like she's like, if you want to connect with your parents, I can connect you with your parents. 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:55.680 We started doing remote viewing, and had a remote view the location where my parents were, and I'm not even joking, things would happen in my house that I just couldn't explain that were it's my parents, and I'm like, it's so strange. 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.200 But it was during a remote view session with her cousin. 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.039 Yeah, wow, and I had no idea what remote viewing was before that. 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:28.079 Yeah, yeah, but but it got you in touch with um, you know, with people you probably wouldn't, you know, be able to talk to physically, but you you can talk to them, you know, in your like mentally from your spirit, from from your soul, from I mean, from your energy. 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.839 I mean,

there's so many different ways to to communicate. 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:46.880 And yeah, and the thing too is it's like, and I've I've just seen so many just synchronicities and so and have had like just way too much experiences happen again, both good and bad. 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:54.079 I mean, even like the bad stuff that happened, when I sit down and think about it, I was like, oh yeah, I did have that fear. 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.200 Oh yeah, I was kind of dwelling a little bit on that. 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.079 And and then, and yeah, like lo and behold, it happened. 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:07.440 So uh, so so it I mean, and it's not to say that, you know, oh, everything bad that happens to you is your fault. 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:12.960 But if but the thing, but there's a difference between I think cause and fault. 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:21.200 Whereas if you I mean, because a lot of people, it's like if you're if you're not aware of how you're thinking, I mean, like that's not your fault. 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:26.000 You didn't know, but now that you're aware, you can get control of that. 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:27.279 Right. 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:37.519 I mean, I think I think we're board creators, so I think that board creators who are creating everything that exists in our life, like the good, the bad, and those are all labels too. 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:42.240 Like we label things bad, but it doesn't be that it's how we perceive. 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.079 Yeah, that's this is true. 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:52.319 This is how it is, it's how you perceive it, and and sometimes things show up to show you something about yourself. 00:26:52.799 --> 00:27:16.960 Like, you know, like I I had an experience recently where on on the surface it was bad, but then I was like, okay, no, like where after I sat down and thought about it, I was just thinking, okay, you know, this is a and it and it came to me like this is a representation of where maybe I haven't been doing things to my fullest potential. 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:25.839 And this is and this was kind of like sent to me as a wake-up call, like, hey, you're capable of even more than what you've been doing. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:39.680 So it so sometimes that, you know, sometimes things like that will happen in order to kind of nudge you in a direction that may be like even more beneficial to you. 00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:46.640 And maybe you'll take chances and try things that maybe you would not have otherwise. 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:53.599 But since you had that experience, and that you now you're just like, oh wow, yeah, I am capable of more. 00:27:54.240 --> 00:28:12.079 You know, yes, it's a learn learning, a lot of learning and healing and when yeah, yeah, yeah, and healing, it's it's definitely like, yeah, healing, shadow work, all that stuff. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.839 It's uh really important. 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:23.839 It's not always fun because you do have to

face parts of yourself that you know, maybe you might be like, ew, I don't want to face that. 00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:36.240 But if you truly want to grow and evolve, sometimes you have to face like the the bad, you have to face the good, the bad, and the ugly parts of yourself and release them, alchemize them. 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:46.559 It's hard to look at like look at yourself and say, I create good or bad, you know, like literally we should be able to critique ourselves more than anyone else. 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:57.599 Like I don't judge people because I have never walked in their shoes, but you know, it's it's part of who we are, and like we're both sort of self-deprecating, so we make fun of ourselves a lot. 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:21.599 Yeah, uh yeah, but yeah, but it's really like cool, like once you really start to realize that you know you do have way more control over your life than the powers that be would want to probably want to have you believe. 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:34.079 So yeah, but um, but we uh talked a little bit about the uh the paranormal as well as you know, you mentioned like Bigfoot and cryptids and and fay folk. 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:47.119 So have you ever had any type of experiences with cryptids or fairies or uh any any of those uh anybody from those other realms? 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.519 Yay! What have you had experiences with? 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.599 I don't know if you want to talk about your okay. 00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:58.480 Well, I'll say this. 00:29:58.559 --> 00:29:59.039 I'll say this. 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:10.160 When I was 17 years old, uh-huh, the very first cryptid experience, but I was with my twin sister, and we were driving in Greenville, Pennsylvania, across this one-laying bridge. 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:21.920 Yeah, and I stopped the truck, it was my grandfather's truck, and I stopped because there was a little creature at the side of the riverbank, and it was like its little hands were curled like this. 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:35.279 Oh wow, it was standing upright, and it had no fur on it, and it had these ears that stuck straight up with like lines and ridges, oh big eyeballs, and I'm like, we were both looking at it, and I'm like, Jody, what is that? 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:36.960 Like we couldn't figure out what it was. 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:56.079 Yeah, and you know, like it was 1987, so in 1987, you didn't have the internet, so we were looking, we were looking in uh encyclopedias and stuff, and I'm like, maybe it's a Taswanian devil, but you know, to this day I still don't know what we saw, but it was definitely definitely strange. 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:57.119 Like, I don't know what it was. 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:08.799 Maybe I would say like chupacabra type thing, but the very first thing, and then you know, like as life goes on, we've had more uh on the paranormal ghost hunting. 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:19.440 We've seen I don't know how many apparitions and like full-body apparitions or herd with our own ears, like herd things or lots of that going on. 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.640 A Bigfoot encounter in Pennsylvania that you know, like we heard a vocalization. 00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:25.920 Oh wow. 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.799 We don't know I can't say for sure, but it's what got us into the Bigfoot whole phenomenon. 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.559 Yes, and what we heard was this vocalization that we later found out was identical to the Ohio Howl. 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:39.920 And you could feel it in your body. 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:45.519 Like if if you're a guest, if you're if your audience doesn't know who what the Ohio Howl is, they should look it up. 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:57.599 But it's one of the most well-recorded uh vocalizations of a Bigfoot and a case, Ohio, which is only about 40 miles from where we live, and it's I love what we heard. 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:10.400 You know, we interview people now that have had encounters, so like we're meet people that have had experiences with cryptids, and we've that are really interesting. 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:11.519 Yeah, that is interesting. 00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.480 Like Dogman, which I don't want to see Dogman. 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.319 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:17.839 Oh gosh, no. 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:29.839 I casted a print at Shirago Reservoir, and the Dogman, North American Dogman Association asked me to cast it, and I I went out in the middle of the night to cast this print that I found. 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:30.559 Uh-huh. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:31.599 I have it. 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.559 I'll show I'll show you. 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:33.279 Oh, yeah. 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.279 Oh, I think it's I think it's close by. 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:37.680 Yeah. 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:38.319 Okay. 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.000 But yeah, that's yeah, that's the thing, like um dogman. 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:45.359 Like, what is dogman? 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.920 Like, yeah, me it's a werewolf. 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:48.559 I don't know. 00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:49.519 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.440 I mean, that that seems to be the most simple explanation for for it. 00:32:53.599 --> 00:33:00.319 So this pass that I cast at Shenaigo Reservoir, oh, actually pretty big. 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.079 Yeah, look at that. 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:05.519 Yeah, yeah. 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:11.039 I I recommend watching the video version of this podcast so you can see just how how large that is. 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:11.680 Yeah. 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:12.799 Wow. 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.240 Yeah, there it is. 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:18.559 But that was at Shenago Reservoir outside of Sharpsville, Pennsylvania. 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:31.200 And you know, like we've met people over the years that have had Bigfoot cast, and I've casted prints that I you know, I would say could be Bigfoot, but I just I we cast, so just keep

casting. 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.039 I mean, we did have where there were only two prints, of course. 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:35.920 There's only two. 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:37.920 There's not gonna be any more. 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:38.799 There's only gonna be two. 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.200 Yeah, of course, yeah. 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.039 Hopefully not. 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.119 So yeah. 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.519 And you try to step, you we couldn't do it. 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:56.160 Running, we did we couldn't get that stride that it had yeah, so that was pretty fascinating. 00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:58.160 Yeah, oh, I'm sure. 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:06.799 Yeah, and as far as the Faye, which that's exciting because Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that because yeah, I'm I'm all all into that, so yeah. 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:15.440 So, you know, like people can make fun of you when you're doing this stuff, and it's literally like we have zero Fs to give about it because we're just do us. 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:23.039 I we had Jenny and I had talked and we're like, you know, if we believe in all of these other things, can we believe in the Faye? 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.280 Like, can we believe that there are fairies and there's the Faye realm and these things exist? 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.360 Like, our on our bucket list is to go to Iceland and Scotland. 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:35.039 We want to go do a tour of the Fae in those countries. 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:36.719 Yeah, yeah. 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.320 But we decided one day that we were just gonna go out and use the protocol of Dr. 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.960 Stephen Greer, which is codes and frequencies and meditation. 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:54.320 So we went out, we decided we were gonna do a meditation, play some Celtic music, maybe play some music in general. 00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:01.280 We have our plant this plant wave that you connect to plants and you can hear the sounds that these plants make. 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:03.199 Yeah, I love that. 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.360 And then we took photographs. 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:20.480 We were just trying to take photographs, and in a few of the photographs we have, we have what looks like a very like a like wow, light, like different kind of colors of light, but it was it's like yeah, very cool. 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:30.239 Then there was another time where I went out and I was meditating in this area where I really go, and I did this meditation, and I sat there and I was just looking out at the lake. 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.719 The lake was in front of me, and all of a sudden this light appeared on me. 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.920 It was like this purple little light, yeah, moving, and I was like, What is that? 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:40.960 And I said, Who are you? 00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:42.159 I said, Who are you? 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:48.159 And this little light, it looked like there were little wings,

and it like did little wings. 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:49.840 Oh my gosh, yeah. 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.400 Are not exactly what we imagined them to be. 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.920 I think they can afford in any way that they feel comfortable. 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:02.559 Yeah. 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:21.199 Well, that's the thing too, because a lot of the time when people think of like fairies, they think of like, oh, like little pixies and and and and just all of uh cause because obviously movies in Hollywood have depicted fairies uh in a certain way, like your tinkerbells and all of that. 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:47.440 But Faye, I mean, they there are so many different races of Faye, there are so many different like genuses of, I mean, cause because you you have, yeah, you do have your little pixies, but then you also have like your your Dullahan, which is basic like your your headless horseman who you know who basically will drag you away with his spinal cord whip. 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.960 So yeah, and and that's a that's a f member of the Fae. 00:36:53.119 --> 00:37:01.360 So yeah, but like um what are like what are some of your thoughts on like the different um races and genuses of the Fae? 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:04.159 Oh, I think it's very fascinating. 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:10.239 Yeah, even like you know, Jenny Greenteeth and which you know out of that one because my name's Jenny. 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:16.079 But um I mean it's like it goes back to like Toatha David, um all of that stuff. 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:17.760 Yeah, from Ireland, yeah. 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:23.920 They're very Earth-based, like almost like elementals, and they're very Earth-based. 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:30.400 And I think Sasquatch Bigfoot could always could also be considered the Fae. 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:31.039 Yeah. 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:32.000 It really could. 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.639 Like you look at indigenous cultures, yeah. 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:41.679 Pennsylvania has great indigenous stories where the native tribes will tell you their stories, and I'm like, that's the fee. 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.400 Like a lot of what they tell is almost very fee-like. 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:50.079 Yeah, yeah, like even like the Wendigo, like what are your thoughts on that? 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.440 Like, do you think they could fit into like the Fey category? 00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:00.559 Yes, because there's Fey that are not just cute and fun and you know, friendly. 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:05.920 There's Fey that you know just aren't bad or good, but they're right. 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:23.039 I mean, you probably know more than we do with the Fey because we're we're just we just like to experiment and contact them, like but things with associated, and we've had some things that were not so positive, but I've even heard that the Fey were extraterrestrial. 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.920 I've heard that theory too, that yeah, they're they're extraterrestrial. 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:33.760 I tend to think most of them are interdimensional, then more interdimensional than anything else, but I don't know. 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:40.400 Hey, I think anything is possible at this point because there's just so much out there. 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:49.840 Maybe the gift that my parents gave me with like my losing my parents was that we're on this planet a short amount of time. 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:51.119 So why not? 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:52.800 Why not just research the fame? 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.920 Why not go out and try to contact extraterrestrials? 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:05.360 You're welcome to be that person, you know, like like everybody's going to their nine to five job doing whatever, but um just do it, just go out and experiment. 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:09.920 Like I mean, there's no harm in it, yeah. 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:19.280 I think I don't think what are your um thoughts on the stories about people that have been taken to the fairy realm? 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:33.840 And they they spend like maybe what they think is just a couple of hours there, and then but then when they come back to the human world, because I think what happens is um from what I've read is that the Faye will ask, Do you want to stay or do you want to go back? 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:42.880 And if you choose to go back, um people will find that no, they didn't just spend a couple of hours, it's actually been a couple of years. 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:44.960 So, what are your thoughts on those? 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:46.719 I've not actually heard that. 00:39:46.800 --> 00:40:02.480 So yeah, I have heard that, and it's it's fascinating because I've also heard that with extraterrestrials or going interdimensional, where think they're only gone for so long, but they come back and it's a lot like a lot longer. 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.639 Yeah, that makes sense. 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:10.000 Like if you're going to another dimension, you're going to a different reality, it's somewhere else. 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:16.400 It could time is going to be different because our time is very linear and it's a certain way, yeah. 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.679 To be the same somewhere else in another density. 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.679 I mean, I feel like we've all, if we really thought about it, have had missing time, whether it be in the woods. 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:28.400 Like I've interviewed people that have had missing time in the woods. 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.400 Like they they went. 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:42.400 Um even we were driving one time and we were we knew where we were going, we were going, we knew how long it would take us, and then our clock said it was like what it was in the car. 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:46.719 We were in the car, and we're like, something's not right. 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.960 And then we're on this road that we thought we knew

where we were going. 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:52.880 And like, how long have we been on this road? 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:58.239 And we don't do we're not doing drugs, like none of us do drugs. 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.719 Give that disclaimer, yeah. 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:04.239 It would be Jenny. 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:06.000 She's great. 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:08.480 I don't know. 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:15.599 I think that I think that as human beings, we we think they these things might not be possible, but they really are probably possible. 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:22.079 And if if people listen and hear people's stories, they would find out this weird missing time and stuff. 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:23.360 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:36.639 And like like what are your thoughts on, you know, speaking of missing time, on us having like different timelines and collapsing timelines, and like what are your thoughts on that? 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:38.559 Steve would be the one to ask that. 00:41:38.880 --> 00:42:17.679 Okay, so Jenny, what are your thoughts on uh you because uh because I know like I've been studying like the theory where um we have an infinite amount of timelines and your thoughts, again, going back to how your thoughts can create your your reality and and where where you go, depending on your state of mind and what you're doing, you can go on like a like a real like one specific timeline that will take you to your purpose or what whatever you want or what you want to be doing, but then you have another timeline that can like take you down to maybe where you don't want to be. 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:32.239 And then there's collapsing timelines where once you get back on the path that you you know you want you want to be on, you basically it the that old timeline, that old not so good timeline suddenly collapses and disappears. 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:37.119 I mean, there's all different um explanations about it, but yeah, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.840 Yeah, we I think you just explained it very well. 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:57.840 He was saying Christine's a good one for that because she's really but I do think that you will have um a path where you think yeah, this is the path that I'm supposed to go on because programmed and conditioned a certain way to go on this path. 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:10.320 Yeah, but it you're being drawn somewhere else, it's over here because this is this is where your purpose is, or this is where I do believe that, yes. 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:27.039 Yeah, yeah, it's so it's so fascinating though, but but to me, that's just like a reminder of once you get a hold of this stuff, like you really can, you really do have more control over your life than you think. 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:33.920 You don't have to wait for somebody outside of you to give you the okay to do something. 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:39.199 Yeah, you you can just do it, especially if you were born with certain gifts. 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:42.800 And I mean, it's and that's the thing. 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:50.960 You know, like I said, it's like you have and I reiterate more control over yourself and your life than you think. 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:58.559 So permission, you know, like being curious is a great point. 00:43:58.639 --> 00:43:59.599 One of the most important things. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:56.880 we should have as human beings just be curious it be open be weird be weird be weird yes yeah be curious be open be weird and get in touch with your inner child like what what made you what made you happy as a child that maybe you lost along the way and that you want to that you want to get back i mean that that's something to think about too and maybe what what was suppressed because we all have something that was suppressed while we were growing up I don't think anybody's immune from that um and it and if there is somebody who was I want to meet them because because I want to have a talk I want to have a little talk with them but um but yeah but like but what was suppressed what what did you think what what what path did you maybe take because you thought it was more acceptable and and and and these are the questions that everybody should be asking of themselves. 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:52.480 So yeah I think for me I had like this I had open heart surgery recently okay yeah they stop your heart and they collapse your lungs but after when I came out of that um open heart surgery one of the very first things that I heard was my mom's voice and she's been gone for some years but yeah it's it took me on a direction too like you know this whole paranormal stuff and everything it took me on a direction of like what about my life is different than other people and I thought there's really not a whole lot that's different but you know what excites me now what and listening to the burns like I just absolutely love it like I didn't do when I was a little kid I didn't pay attention to nature and I was doing that and like you know that's healed me in so many ways just like nature and listening to being able to identify trees and birds like it's fun. 00:45:52.719 --> 00:47:26.079 Yeah yeah well no because it's it's kind of the same for me when because I had um an ankle injury uh back in winter of 2024 and it was one of those things where it ended up actually being a good thing because like in the moment when you're sitting in the ER and you're you're hearing that like yeah your ankle's pretty much shattered you're gonna need uh PT and I you know I was working in the fitness industry at the time too so I so I was just like this was like my worst nightmare but what but what it ended up doing was it ended up giving me number one much needed time off to really think because I had been tiring myself out with stuff that really didn't serve me and that this really gave me time to sit and think and you know and and the whole the whole ordeal ended

up working out really really well for me and it ended up you know better than I thought it was and you know but it was one of those things where it was like kind of getting back to our conversation from earlier what we were mentioning is something that happens that in the moment it might seem like a bad thing but then when you step back and you're just like okay no this is going to somehow I'm trusting I'm trusting that this is going to work out to my benefit. 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:32.079 And and it did and the timeline shift really if you think about it. 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:49.280 Yeah oh yeah absolutely I can see a huge timeline shift because I'm doing stuff now that had I kept on that path I mean yeah I might have still been able to do some of it but I wouldn't be able to do everything that I'm doing right now. 00:47:49.440 --> 00:48:15.840 I I wouldn't have had all the doors open to me that I've had that I've had since then so it's one of those things where you you just have to sometimes you just have to trust the process and and just just trust that yes somehow this is going to work out to my benefit and it's really going to be a test in my resilience. 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:32.639 And I will say I mean so some people might argue it was the uh the drugs because I had to have surgery to to fix the ankle and everything. 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:41.039 But um but I know some people might argue that it was the drugs but like I I had a couple of spiritual experiences in that hospital. 00:48:41.119 --> 00:49:53.840 So it was like but that that really now that I look back on it I was like okay wow that makes sense you know yeah yeah I feel like if people looked at the nature of who they are in like an accident that you had or like heart surgery you could you could almost transmute it into something positive for yourself like you could look at it why did this happen to me but really it's it's a path it's a direction it's a take it yeah yeah absolutely absolutely and um what was the place that places that you visited that seem to have the highest activity of paran like whether it's paranormal fae whatever Hillview Manor Wow I mean like as far as the paranormal would be but the shenango where we do a lot of investment is like okay so Jenny's been to Sedona she's been out to these energetic portal places but tonight Shenango Reservoir where we research is very much an energetic place for us and I have so many things happen there. 00:49:53.920 --> 00:50:15.360 Yeah but human as far as haunted locations 100% is always on it has a story to tell yeah I I remember this too like I went to school in Europe and um the Czech Republic and Slob are two locations that are very very paranormal to me like I felt like I felt like I had lived there. 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.079 Yeah like I mean I I felt like I'd lived there in another life and it was so familiar to me. 00:50:21.760 --> 00:51:02.880 Yeah wow cool and um people looking into exploring the paranormal or cryptids or anything like that um like what advice would you have for somebody looking to get into it or maybe get into it a little bit deeper than they are I don't know for me it's again just be yourself be weird like have fun with it like have a some sometimes people get so serious about what they're doing then they get hard on themselves because they're trying to be to a certain way or too serious or you know just have fun with it. 00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:04.559 Just explore and have fun. 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:11.519 And I would say don't go into it expecting that you're gonna have answers because you're gonna have a lot more questions than you do answers. 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:22.960 Yeah don't be afraid to fail like if like if you feel like you're failing and you're not capturing evidence look at it more like not for the evidence but for the experience. 00:51:23.280 --> 00:52:35.840 Yeah experience more just like when I said I wake up in the morning and I say I ask the universe to show me something it always does like maybe and think of it more in the terms of energy rather than ghost like try to connect or make contact with whatever that is that's there that you're trying to connect with yeah yeah because I was um talking to another team of ghost hunters that I um had on this show and they they basically said you know talk to them like you're talking like just to a friend yeah yeah because sometimes you have like these people that try to be edgy and they go in and they're obnoxious and rude and they try to provoke this like the spirits that way and it's just kind of like I mean which that that's the thing if you wouldn't want somebody talking to you like that then don't talk to anybody like that whether they're here physically or spiritually I mean we've seen a lot with groups that came into Hillview and Mansfield like you're you look at it you're like wow I would not do that that way right it's it's basically just energy so that energy the way you want to be reciprocated. 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:54.960 Yeah yeah and I say this like I think with with that type of work you want to establish intelligence so always kind of look at something in a way that you they already know the answer and then try to establish if they they can figure it out like it's like math problems and stuff. 00:52:56.239 --> 00:53:14.559 But make it personal too I mean I think a lot of people fear the paranormal because they don't know what what's out there and there's gonna be something negative attaching but I rarely see that like I've seen it on a few occasions but if you come in with a light surrounding you I think you're gonna be fine. 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:22.239 Yeah yeah and I know a lot of people like they do like protection prayers and stuff like that before doing that. 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:43.519 Because sometimes you you never know what you're going to run into because dealing with the paranormal it can be you can be dealing with residual energy you

can be dealing with a human spirit that is still lingering around or you can do be dealing with a malevolent spirit that really doesn't really want to do anything good. 00:53:43.679 --> 00:54:18.159 They just they they just want to destroy everything so I mean I think it is important to take those precautions like no matter no matter where you're going uh especially if you're doing some type of an investigation um but but what are your what are your thoughts on uh the paranormal like being like residual energy human spirits lingering or malevolent spirits or do you think they're just it's kind of like a combination of all of the above hmm I think there's um different like we were talking about like um veils of R. 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:24.079 Like there's so many different layers to it I think yeah that could be all of it. 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:24.960 It could be all of it. 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:32.800 I mean I'm gonna say I think it's all of it but I also think that I think that things are trying to c make contact with us when we don't even know it. 00:54:32.960 --> 00:55:19.199 I think that if our consciousness is connected with something we're gonna make contact and there is residual energy which is like part of a building but I always tell people this building has a story to tell you just have to listen and you have to so paying attention is really the key to all of it and certain people I've noticed this that certain people and the individuality that they are attract more than other than others like it it has to do with people too yeah yeah no I agree I agree so so um I you guys recently did the event at Haunted Hillview Manor at HillCon. 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.000 So do you have any other events coming up? 00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:29.760 Oh I don't not this year I don't think yeah I mean I told Jenny actually I just told Jenny that I wanted to take a break from everything. 00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:46.960 So this was the last we were going to do was your podcast and oh okay well I'm honored so um yeah I think next year we have we're just gonna be mintable because I think that we really want to do more research and do more stuff with our friends that we like to do stuff with. 00:55:47.119 --> 00:56:24.000 Oh or going to events to see our friends see them speak or see them yeah I mean next year we're gonna be at the central Pennsylvania Bigfoot thing with Christine she's gonna be there it's okay yeah Clearview Pennsylvania I think clear county clearfield county and then like Jenny and I also do we uh we do our own little C Seti type things where we meet up with people and we Skywatch we try we do those sometimes at Hillview but like if anyone contact us and say would you like to we would like to join you people are more than welcome. 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:27.039 Yeah because there's gonna be less mosquito soon. 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:44.000 Yes this is true you know how huggy and that's all we have the mosquitoes around and if anybody at the Faye with us you're more than welcome too yeah I'd love to I'd love to come and yeah do some Faye watching with you guys. 00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:57.360 That would be awesome yeah yeah yeah let me know yeah just let me know when hey I'll I'll hey as long as I don't have anything on my schedule I will be there to do some like fee hunting or fee watching. 00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:04.800 I want this to happen but I feel like one day Jenny and I are gonna go to Iceland or we are definitely going to do a Faye thing there. 00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:25.920 Ooh I love it what a film it let's do it yes I love it yeah absolutely but um and where if people wanted to find more about your work uh where can they find you or like contact you or or anything I guess Facebook. 00:57:26.239 --> 00:59:54.639 Yeah I mean Facebook um Jamie and Jetty King we're oh I have my own page he has his page and I mean Instagram um it's Pennsylvania Bigfoot Field Evidence it's uh it's a huge name you'll find me on there I'm pretty sure because I have a lot of stuff on there yeah we have a page for our CS our C SETI which we call it contact so it's a contact series where we're contacting ETs oh um spirits ghosts whatever it's it's just called contact oh okay okay yeah cool I will put those yeah in the description of this episode so yeah and so yeah if you uh yeah definitely uh want to uh learn more about their work definitely look them up on Facebook and Instagram and uh check them out at uh Christine's uh next event so yeah do you guys um have any anything that you anything uh final that you want to say oh just thank you very much for having us on the show it was a pleasure meeting you at Christine's event and you know like I did a little I researched you so I was like listening to your music and I think you have a beautiful voice and I love thank you so yeah thank you so much thank you uh yeah and I'm glad you enjoyed the music and all of that so all right well thank you guys again for coming on and thank you um everybody for listening we get um more listeners each week and there's a new episode that drops every Friday and we're going into spooky season with this one so yeah so I'm really excited about that but once again thank you Jamie and Jenny King and thank you yeah big shout out to uh Christine for bringing uh some of us weirdos together and yeah so but um and again thank you everybody for listening and until the next episode wherever you are stay safe stay fierce but of course stay spooky a little bit