บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ When Debates Get Personal: Blossom's History with Amala

00:01:41.248 Now you can go through a litany of stories of transgender identifying individuals assaulting women, women and young girls. 00:01:41.248 --> 00:01:43.471 Jk Rowling has done extensive work on this topic. 00:01:43.471 --> 00:01:46.474 You can check out her X-Feed if you want to find story after story. 00:01:46.635 --> 00:01:47.316 Fictional writer. 00:01:48.183 --> 00:01:49.777 Different stories of transgender. 00:01:49.777 --> 00:01:52.721 Identifying individuals, attacking women and men. 00:01:52.721 --> 00:02:04.076 If you want to learn more about this story, just right now by going on Google, type in the name Hannah Tubbs and you'll find a male who assaulted a young girl, a little girl sexually assaulted. 00:02:04.097 --> 00:02:08.289 That little girl went on to identify as transgender. 00:02:08.289 --> 00:02:13.445 Has the whole name changed to Hannah, so we can substantiate these claims. 00:02:13.445 --> 00:02:21.385 Now Blossom is going to make the argument that there are cis men who are weaponizing the trans identity in order to assault women, and I in no way deny that. 00:02:21.385 --> 00:02:23.264 That is a fact, that there are men who are trans. 00:02:23.264 --> 00:02:24.507 The one thing we may actually agree on. 00:02:24.546 --> 00:02:25.068 Oh, look at that. 00:02:25.068 --> 00:02:27.623 You actually One thing you convinced her. 00:02:27.623 --> 00:02:35.060 Look, she's changing Watch, she's going to be on the podcast and we're all going to be hugging once it's in the future, the obvious difference between a cis man and a transgender woman. 00:02:40.903 --> 00:02:41.685 Even Blair White. 00:02:41.705 --> 00:02:44.046 She's going to come to the podcast too, watch, and you can't give me a difference. 00:02:44.046 --> 00:02:44.447 Let's pause it I do. 00:02:44.467 --> 00:02:45.168 Let's stop it here I go. 00:02:45.187 --> 00:02:46.408 That's where I wanted to do that at. 00:02:46.408 --> 00:02:47.909 Yeah, no. 00:02:47.909 --> 00:02:50.491 So I actually can appreciate Amla for saying this. 00:02:50.551 --> 00:02:54.474 You know there are many differences between trans women and cisgender men. 00:02:54.474 --> 00:03:02.242 One really has to do with gender identity and let's be very clear Cis men do not have a gender identity problem. 00:03:02.242 --> 00:03:11.091 With trans women, there is an incongruency of some sort, and so trans women depending on what that looks like transition off of that. 00:03:11.091 --> 00:03:17.953 Now, some trans women transition physically, some just do it emotionally, spiritually, mentally, like. 00:03:17.953 --> 00:03:24.150 There are so many different ways of doing that and we have to remember the transgender community is on a spectrum. 00:03:24.150 --> 00:03:35.307 There's so many different things and I find it crazy that you would even ask me that, amala, when you're a debater yourself and you can't even look up that information. 00:03:35.307 --> 00:03:40.746 There are so many reputable resources, which I'm actually going to give you some that talks about gender identity. 00:03:40.746 --> 00:03:59.526 One reputable resource, in my humble opinion, is the 2012 book Introduction to Behavioral Science and Medicine that says that, with exceptions, gender identity develops surprisingly rapidly in early childhood years and, in the majority of instances, appear to become at least partially irreversible by the age of three and four. 00:03:59.828 --> 00:04:15.671 So even the National Public Institute of Health talks about gender identity, and so there's a lot of reputable resources for gender identity, and I think what you try to do is you want to try to look at things from a practical point of view. 00:04:15.671 --> 00:04:23.853 All y'all want to talk about is biological sex, but let's also talk about the women, because I think in your, because we didn't watch the whole video and I kind of wish we did. 00:04:23.853 --> 00:04:23.005 I love you to death, because I think in your, because we didn't watch the whole video and I kind of wish we did I love you to death. 00:04:23.005 --> 00:04:29.067 But Amala talked about when you were doing this part or whatnot. 00:04:29.067 --> 00:04:34.185 They were talking about Michael Ngo saying oh, you can tell a trans woman when you see one? 00:04:34.185 --> 00:04:35.490 Absolutely not. 00:04:35.490 --> 00:04:37.139 That's not necessarily true, because here's the thing. 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:38.384 That's why Ben Shapiro said bro. 00:04:38.605 --> 00:04:49.966 And here's the thing Some cis women, like Amala, can experience transphobia the same way we can, because when we talk about genetics I've talked about this on Pierce Morgan Everybody act like they don't want to hear me. 00:04:49.966 --> 00:05:05.201 There are some cis women who naturally have higher testosterone levels, like her, who had to experience that transphobia, and we're seeing videos of cis women being accused of being trans in the bathroom, transvestigated of cis women being accused of being trans in the bathroom. 00:05:05.136 --> 00:05:13.459 Transvestite and harassed because of what amala and michael knows, and blair white pushing on the internet on the internet. 00:05:14.021 --> 00:05:36.033 In our, in our humble opinion, like cis, women are being highly affected by that yeah and followed by men security, like following them into the women's conversations are cumulative, and that's the thing that these folks don't quite understand is that they're creating the narrative on the internet and it's like we, as a human society conversations are 100 cumulative. 00:05:36.033 --> 00:05:44.067 So if we're all having this conversation and there's a bunch of people, that are creating this narrative of course it's going to start creating this idea. 00:05:44.088 --> 00:05:45.651 It it's like I see a red car. 00:05:45.651 --> 00:05:48.944 You're going to start always seeing a red car if you're always looking for a red car. 00:05:48.944 -->

00:05:56.225 It's that whole theory and it's like you're perpetuating that to then create a narrative about trans people while you're. 00:05:56.225 --> 00:05:59.535 The percentage of trans people to even exist is still 1%. 00:05:59.535 --> 00:06:07.651 Meanwhile, you have an entire huge system set up for all of these other people to cause abuse and you're just silent on it. 00:06:07.651 --> 00:06:17.411 And, if anything, you find ways to co-sign it in ways and be like oh again, not so bad, not so hard, or I can see how that happened, or this, that and the other, but you don't have that grace for trans people. 00:06:17.411 --> 00:06:18.415 Check out the loophole. 00:06:21.785 --> 00:06:22.848 I'm going to tell you what Amala and them are doing. 00:06:22.848 --> 00:06:36.134 They're trying to take trans people who don't transition physically but more socially, mentally and other things, and trying to stick cis men raping people and all of a sudden identifying as trans afterwards into that and trying to make a talking point. 00:06:36.134 --> 00:06:45.250 I've heard it with Michael Knowles, I've heard it with Blair and I'm like okay, so I'm catching the loopholes now I'm catching what y'all are trying to do and that's not okay. 00:06:45.250 --> 00:06:50.831 A lot of these cis men are doing it just because they're despicable and disgusting, but it's not coming from trans women. 00:06:50.831 --> 00:06:58.415 Trans women are an identity and this whole thing around transgenderism being an ideology how are we an ideology when we're sitting right here in front of you? 00:06:58.415 --> 00:07:03.738 That makes no sense and michael and amala are too dumb in my opinion to see it my debate too. 00:07:03.778 --> 00:07:07.221 I was trying to yes, you were like hello, like I have lived experience. 00:07:07.261 --> 00:07:08.942 I'm sitting in front of you as a trans woman. 00:07:08.942 --> 00:07:10.663 I have that experience. 00:07:10.663 --> 00:07:18.891 You cannot sit here and tell me that it's just an ideology, and if you plan on removing that ideology out of the woman, what happens to the woman? 00:07:18.891 --> 00:07:20.235 Yeah, what does he think? 00:07:20.235 --> 00:07:24.012 And here's the thing amala and michael you're just going to disappear they play off. 00:07:24.052 --> 00:07:25.720 They play off of trans issues. 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:33.266 They play off of making content and debates on trans issues, issues that they don't even exist, I'm sorry, issues that they don't even live. 00:07:33.266 --> 00:07:38.757 They do not live these experiences and amala griffs of trans issues all the time. 00:07:38.757 --> 00:07:45.555 And I'm and I'm going to check you because we need to really talk about this whole thing, with me appearing on the podcast with Buck Angel. 00:07:45.555 --> 00:07:48.694 This is the part I've never addressed in two years. 00:07:49.906 --> 00:07:51.572 Now, as y'all know, Get the tea. 00:07:51.572 --> 00:07:52.875 It's hot, let's get ready, yeah. 00:07:53.305 --> 00:07:57.432 So my first Jubilee debate was called Trans Women Versus Conservative Women. 00:07:57.432 --> 00:08:08.521 That's where I met Amala and I've met other people there, and so a lot was edited out, but me and Amala were the ones going back and forth, like I have to admit, like in that debate I thought she was really good. 00:08:08.521 --> 00:08:08.942 You know what I mean. 00:08:08.942 --> 00:08:09.425 To keep up with me. 00:08:09.485 --> 00:08:23.968 I thought we were just having yeah, we were sparring pretty well, and she worked at this particular platform, which we will not name or whatnot, and so, cause I didn't know who she was, and so in in that video I asked do you have any resources? 00:08:23.968 --> 00:08:28.447 Cause she was talking about bone density and she tried to reverse the question back to me. 00:08:28.447 --> 00:08:31.274 She was like do you know the um, the amount of bone density? 00:08:31.274 --> 00:08:31.925 Dah, dah, dah, dah dah. 00:08:31.925 --> 00:08:36.413 And I was just like no, I don't, cause I'm not going to listen to that, cause it's not real. 00:08:36.413 --> 00:08:41.884 And it's not true because you just everybody has bought different body chemistry. 00:08:41.884 --> 00:08:47.596 I know a hundred percent and you don't know somebody's chromosomal account, somebody's bone density level, the size of somebody's heart and lungs. 00:08:47.817 --> 00:08:49.311 Yeah, my feet are bigger than blossoms. 00:08:49.311 --> 00:08:51.953 I have a size 14 in men's and she's like damn. 00:08:52.245 --> 00:08:58.533 But conservatives play off of that talking point and they've tried to make it into something, and so that was that. 00:08:58.533 --> 00:09:05.315 Now Amala, at the end of that episode, asked me verbally if I would come on her podcast with other trans women. 00:09:05.315 --> 00:09:11.535 I thought it was okay because we had just debated with other trans women, and I want y'all to understand something this was my first debate. 00:09:11.535 --> 00:09:14.131 That debate that we're talking about was my first debate. 00:09:14.131 --> 00:09:24.835 Technically, this was my second debate, but I don't include this in my accounts of debates and so I came there, and so I was like, let me just be open, honest. 00:09:24.835 --> 00:09:26.412 We had a good conversation on set. 00:09:26.412 --> 00:09:28.913 Me and the ladies got along why not? 00:09:29.565 --> 00:09:43.058 So a couple of days before, amala sends me a text message saying that Buck was going to be on there Now for me, I got upset because I was just like these aren't the trans women that you verbally told me. 00:09:43.058 --> 00:09:47.155 However, this is what she keeps villainizing me for and criminalizing me for. 00:09:47.155 --> 00:09:56.850 I did say OK, I'm still going to come, even though it was not originally what she said, and you have to remember I'm a new debater. 00:09:56.850 --> 00:10:01.809 At this time, I wanted to be

kind, I wanted to be nice. 00:10:01.809 --> 00:10:11.852 I said okay, but that still does not take away from the fact that you told me verbally that it was going to be other women, trans women, on your podcast and amala. 00:10:11.852 --> 00:10:15.142 You know, you said it, you said it verbally to me. 00:10:15.142 --> 00:10:18.971 So while you're lying to your base, won't you actually tell them the truth? 00:10:18.971 --> 00:10:26.910 It does not take away the text message about Buck, does not take away from what you told me verbally about it. 00:10:27.287 --> 00:10:32.559 So we get to the podcast and we're I was greeted. 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.201 Okay, she was bootlicking the Buck Angel. 00:10:35.201 --> 00:10:37.423 They were worshiping Buck Angel like nobody's business. 00:10:37.423 --> 00:10:43.023 But that was my first time meeting him and, ironically, me and Buck were great on set. 00:10:43.023 --> 00:10:44.105 We did not argue. 00:10:44.105 --> 00:10:46.543 It wasn't no snootiness or whatever. 00:10:46.543 --> 00:10:52.307 So for us to kind of be mortal enemies after it is what it is, because he's two-faced. 00:10:53.756 --> 00:10:54.639 He's very two-faced. 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:55.263 What did he do? 00:10:55.263 --> 00:10:57.466 Oh gosh, is what it is, because he's two-faced, he's very two-faced. 00:10:57.466 --> 00:10:57.809 What did he do? 00:10:57.809 --> 00:10:58.113 Uh, oh gosh. 00:10:58.113 --> 00:11:04.437 So it was funny, because I didn't catch this to like this uh, the debate with blair, that we did so when we were on set. 00:11:04.437 --> 00:11:18.855 Um, I did remind him that he called a black trans woman a monkey yeah, ashley mary preston, yeah, yeah, um, and so I didn't mention the name there, but he pretty much got canceled after that. 00:11:18.914 --> 00:11:20.177 But he got so canceled. 00:11:20.217 --> 00:11:20.720 He's like what? 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:25.057 that is a lie that he came to a protest and everybody's like why the hell are you here? 00:11:25.057 --> 00:11:25.438 And he. 00:11:25.499 --> 00:11:37.134 They made him leave because they were yeah it was bad yeah, so he, he's like in-person community, not online like real life yeah, he's a compulsive liar and being there with on that set with amala. 00:11:37.235 --> 00:11:49.158 It's funny because amala made this slick comment about um, her producer being there by the computer in case she needed to look up anything, because it was a jab at me for telling her where are your sources for what you're saying? 00:11:49.158 --> 00:11:50.923 Because I wanted to look up these sources. 00:11:50.923 --> 00:11:52.495 Like I'm a debater, I'm a researcher. 00:11:52.495 --> 00:11:58.489 If you're gonna spew statistics and spew things to me, you should be able to tell me where you're getting it from. 00:11:58.489 --> 00:12:03.066 Amla never does that, buck Angel never does that, nor Blair White does that. 00:12:03.195 --> 00:12:04.519 Jubilee doesn't even do it Realize. 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:05.783 We don't know until it's produced. 00:12:05.783 --> 00:12:06.476 I need to know. 00:12:06.496 --> 00:12:13.340 That's how I found out that Michael Knowles was spewing bullshit to me in a debate, and so we debated. 00:12:13.340 --> 00:12:14.721 That was that. 00:12:14.721 --> 00:12:19.909 I am still entitled to my personal experience and my personal feelings. 00:12:19.909 --> 00:12:28.765 Now, the fact that Amla does not like that and calls it lying, that's on her, and you know, I want to say something else to Amla and I'm going to wrap this up. 00:12:28.765 --> 00:12:29.860 I'm going to truly wrap this up. 00:12:29.955 --> 00:12:38.740 No, feel free, because she's been coming for you for a few months, yeah because here's the thing she was on Piers Morgan morgan um a while ago and they were talking about dei um. 00:12:38.740 --> 00:12:44.403 I think she was on her with mark lamont and everything or whatever, and amala was talking about dei needs to die. 00:12:44.403 --> 00:12:46.250 Well, amala, check this, clap back. 00:12:46.250 --> 00:12:50.039 Weren't you the dei higher at a certain platform? 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.655 Before they candace owens your ass, damn before they candace owens you out. 00:12:54.735 --> 00:13:01.504 And now you're at home making videos damn making your content from videos because you had a producer there, the white guy. 00:13:01.504 --> 00:13:02.144 Where is he? 00:13:02.184 --> 00:13:05.583 wait, and it's a verb now yeah, they can. 00:13:05.604 --> 00:13:07.932 This owns you there because they wanted to remind you. 00:13:07.932 --> 00:13:09.495 You are still in fear. 00:13:09.495 --> 00:13:13.102 You are deemed inferior as a black person. 00:13:13.102 --> 00:13:20.163 Sometimes she's identified as a mixed person, other times she's, in that um, identified as a black person and she's entitled to that, yeah. 00:13:20.163 --> 00:13:26.744 But here's the thing, and we talk so much about um, who was assigned what at birth. 00:13:26.744 --> 00:13:31.339 Just like amla cannot help that she has a black father and a white mother. 00:13:31.339 --> 00:13:32.640 That's assigned to her. 00:13:33.081 --> 00:13:38.577 Trans people cannot help what they were assigned with before, the incongruency. 00:13:38.577 --> 00:13:42.730 And so this whole thing about biology, biology, biology. 00:13:42.730 --> 00:13:45.639 Again, y'all don't want to talk about genetics, like y'all. 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:47.325 Y'all don't want to do any of these things. 00:13:47.325 --> 00:13:51.705 But and let me also make this clear she also said this, I think, about all of us. 00:13:51.705 --> 00:13:56.542 She said no matter how much hormones you take, the surgeries you have, you will never be a woman. 00:13:56.542 --> 00:13:57.602 Let me check you on that. 00:13:57.602 --> 00:14:07.327 Let me make it very clear the amount of hormones and amount that I do to my body to transition is not a threat to cis women and it's none of your damn business. 00:14:07.327 --> 00:14:13.749 I am not out here trying to be a threat to cis women because I want to live my life in transition. 00:14:13.749 --> 00:14:17.566 I am not out here trying to take up anything from anybody. 00:14:17.566 --> 00:14:20.325 I'm not trying to take up space from anyone. 00:14:20.325 --> 00:14:23.403 Cis women deserve a seat at the table as well as trans women. 00:14:23.403 --> 00:14:25.041 Trans women are a type of women. 00:14:25.041 --> 00:14:34.947 Trans is adjective okay, trans is an adjective and it describes the type of woman that it is, and so this whole ideology that y'all are trying to spew is crazy to me. 00:14:35.395 --> 00:14:37.784 All I saw online in your video was jealousy. 00:14:37.784 --> 00:14:48.961 I saw a lot of projection and I feel like you feel threatened by trans women, and that's not on us, that falls on you. 00:14:48.961 --> 00:14:53.326 I think those braids you had in your hair are screwed in a little too tight to your brain. 00:14:53.326 --> 00:14:57.379 To be quite honest with you and I say that with love and respect I'm you and I say that with love and respect. 00:14:57.379 --> 00:15:03.639 I'm gonna actually say that with love and respect here, because the thing is, you never talk about anything else. 00:15:03.779 --> 00:15:05.668 All you want to do is grift to trans issues. 00:15:05.668 --> 00:15:07.335 You will never be a trans woman. 00:15:07.335 --> 00:15:14.206 You will never, ever in your entire life, be a trans woman or experience what we face. 00:15:14.206 --> 00:15:15.876 You are in a place of privilege. 00:15:15.876 --> 00:15:24.163 You are so lucky as a cis woman that you don't have to go through the harassment and the discrimination and the violence that we, as trans people, go through. 00:15:24.163 --> 00:15:27.759 It doesn't matter if you're a trans man or a trans woman or a non-binary person. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:33.761 You are in a place of privilege where you can sit behind your little funky camera and say these things about trans people. 00:15:33.761 --> 00:15:37.068 But the reality of it is I cleared you in the first debate. 00:15:37.068 --> 00:15:43.001 I annihilated you and destroyed you in the first debate in my humble opinion, and you've never been able to get over it. 00:15:43.001 --> 00:15:45.263 But after this, I'm done with you. 00:15:45.263 --> 00:16:04.173 I pay you to dust Dust and I want you to know that you