บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Inside Jubilee's Surrounded: When They Silence Us, We Speak Louder

00:04:22.550 Yeah, honestly, I didn't really have any sort of really negative reaction. 00:04:22.550 --> 00:04:28.610 Good, there was, like some like people dming me a lot of them were chasers. 00:04:28.630 --> 00:04:29.052 I'm gonna be honest. 00:04:29.072 --> 00:04:36.454 Oh well, girl, you got an offer for five thousand dollars let's be clear, honey you're sexy and gorgeous, so I I understand that. 00:04:36.836 --> 00:04:43.387 Yes but I did have a couple and honestly I would say the ones that hurt the most were from the left over the right. 00:04:44.269 --> 00:04:48.206 I have to agree with you Sometimes that hurts deeper. 00:04:48.206 --> 00:04:55.310 The left can be so cruel, even though we are on allegedly the same side. 00:04:55.310 --> 00:04:55.680 How did? 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:56.524 What did you experience? 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:03.725 I had like a lot of people from the left just kind of like discussing like my ability to be on Jubilee, like why I even went on. 00:05:03.725 --> 00:05:06.588 They're like you shouldn't have gone on in the first place, yada, yada, yada. 00:05:06.588 --> 00:05:10.226 And like I didn't even really know anything about Jubilee, I think I watched maybe two episodes. 00:05:10.226 --> 00:05:11.944 I was like I don't even know what this is. 00:05:11.944 --> 00:05:16.242 This is just like a media thing and like I've had a weird sort of housing situation. 00:05:16.242 --> 00:05:23.653 So I was like any way to get like extra money and like see people in my community and kind of make connections because I'm new to the city, like I'm going to take it. 00:05:23.653 --> 00:05:25.415 So that was like the main reason I took it. 00:05:25.415 --> 00:05:33.411 And even when I was on there, like I'm not a debater, it's not something that I was trained for, that I really had a lot of knowledge on. 00:05:33.411 --> 00:05:36.730 But I still think I did a pretty good job for what I had to work with. 00:05:36.750 --> 00:05:43.670 So yeah, especially the part when you were like, so wait that was your first and apparently yeah, I've never debated anyone before. 00:05:43.889 --> 00:05:44.170 Yeah. 00:05:44.451 --> 00:05:44.752 Okay. 00:05:44.952 --> 00:05:47.819 Neither have I, and especially the part when you were doing this, that or whatever. 00:05:47.819 --> 00:06:02.488 And apparently a certain Gen Z-er YouTuber who's a grifter, who used to be a leftist but all of a sudden is now somebody on the right, made a comment about that, which was really interesting, and so here's the tea y'all. 00:06:02.488 --> 00:06:17.420 So I'm on YouTube minding my own business, scrolling through, scrolling through, and I come across this video that our biggest hater to the show, amala I call her Ekbunami, but it's Ekbunobi Made a whole reaction. 00:06:17.740 --> 00:06:19.867 Never going to get the girl's name right. 00:06:20.961 --> 00:06:22.286 Made a whole reaction video. 00:06:22.286 --> 00:06:23.565 We need some sound effects. 00:06:23.565 --> 00:06:26.887 Where are our sound effects at On page? 00:06:26.887 --> 00:06:27.810 Okay, hold on. 00:06:27.810 --> 00:06:31.706 And what I do at Actually? 00:06:31.706 --> 00:06:36.286 Oh, Our biggest hater made another video about us. 00:06:36.286 --> 00:06:37.829 Hi Amala, how you doing girl? 00:06:37.829 --> 00:06:44.206 Hey Amala, Hi Amala's followers, because I know y'all coming over here to look lurk and everything Y' else smelling like low self-esteem and baloney. 00:06:44.206 --> 00:06:54.829 But apparently she made this video about us in our debates and so we have a few clips here and I thought it was important for us to react to it Now. 00:06:54.829 --> 00:06:56.533 Y'all being here is just a coincidence. 00:06:56.533 --> 00:07:03.004 She made that video a long time ago and y'all were the ones that came through, and so why not just react to the video? 00:07:03.004 --> 00:07:11.266 And so let's go ahead and start playing these clips and you guys give y'all opinion and we'll just go from there. 00:07:11.266 --> 00:07:12.228 See what's given. 00:07:12.870 --> 00:07:24.747 Okay and agree on what the facts are of the topic that you are discussing, and not a single individual so far that we've gone through in this video out of the three has met him on a fact that he's given and said you know what? 00:07:24.747 --> 00:07:30.521 That's true, except the person who said it's not happening but they deserve it. 00:07:30.521 --> 00:07:36.122 That was where, uh, he was met on a fact, and even then we couldn't find common ground on the issue, true. 00:07:36.122 --> 00:07:37.466 What about the two-spirited people? 00:07:37.766 --> 00:07:37.906 what? 00:07:37.906 --> 00:07:39.630 What is the two-spirited people? 00:07:39.732 --> 00:07:41.887 in the indigenous community they are. 00:07:42.490 --> 00:07:43.915 He's baiting this individual. 00:07:43.915 --> 00:07:45.321 Of course he knows what a two-spirit is. 00:07:45.663 --> 00:07:48.877 I don't want to get into semantics, but oh, so you admit he's baiting that? 00:07:48.877 --> 00:07:54.341 Glad you saw that the fact is that there has always been trans people do you know where the phrase two-spirited came from? 00:07:54.642 --> 00:08:04.095 I don't, it came from light and it came from the third annual inter-tribal native american first nations gay and lesbian americans conference in 1990? 00:08:04.095 --> 00:08:05.420 And why did you act like you didn't know what two-spirit was? 00:08:06.208 --> 00:08:07.480 I just don't think that that's true. 00:08:07.540 --> 00:08:07.821 It's true. 00:08:07.862 --> 00:08:12.529 The woman who coined that term Fact check, even fact check by Jubilee, true 1990. 00:08:12.529 --> 00:08:23.889 It's kind of like when people are like when you go to school and everybody's meant to believe that Kwanzaa is this super huge holiday and you leave and Amala definitely goes off topic I don't want to hear her voice anymore. 00:08:23.928 --> 00:08:25.011 How do you feel about

that? 00:08:25.011 --> 00:08:25.892 I paused it. 00:08:25.892 --> 00:08:26.413 I don't know. 00:08:26.904 --> 00:08:27.920 I think what she had to say. 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:29.785 I think it was more important at the end of it. 00:08:29.785 --> 00:08:36.668 But anyways, stassi, yeah, so far listening to that, cause somebody like Amala don't stay on topic or damn. 00:08:36.668 --> 00:08:39.226 So like what's your reaction. 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:40.946 So I like this. 00:08:40.946 --> 00:08:46.471 I like this is like one of the biggest things I got comments about, like specifically on the TikTok and all that stuff. 00:08:46.471 --> 00:08:50.157 It was about not knowing the definitions of two-spirited people. 00:08:50.157 --> 00:08:57.453 So from my experience, I was sitting in front of somebody who I knew was going to have a definition. 00:08:57.453 --> 00:09:06.412 I also didn't want to misrepresent so like why would I sit there and when it's clearly over my head, try to explain it? 00:09:06.412 --> 00:09:10.764 I didn't want to disrespect anybody, so I just kind of conceded to that. 00:09:10.764 --> 00:09:11.605 But it wasn't. 00:09:11.605 --> 00:09:14.731 I mean, I was non-binary for a long time. 00:09:14.731 --> 00:09:15.953 That's where I started. 00:09:15.953 --> 00:09:20.371 Yeah, that's where I started my journey about like three or four years ago. 00:09:20.371 --> 00:09:29.703 So that was a very large part of my identity and I did do a lot of research and did the two-spirited community and whatnot. 00:09:29.703 --> 00:09:34.884 So it it just really went over my head and I don't think that it's a big talking point. 00:09:35.206 --> 00:09:39.783 Yeah, and they get the reaching Cause, josh, who was on there, who they edited out completely. 00:09:39.783 --> 00:09:43.392 I was just going to say I wish Josh was here yeah. 00:09:43.392 --> 00:09:45.195 We're going to still get Josh on the show. 00:09:45.275 --> 00:09:46.899 I've talked to Josh already about being on the show. 00:09:46.918 --> 00:09:47.299 Josh is phenomenal. 00:09:47.799 --> 00:10:05.902 Yeah, josh does great work, but Josh literally sat in the seat for two minutes, explained what two-spirit was and got up and left and you can see Josh right behind Michael and the thing is, people still found, tried to find flaws in it, in it, and it's like y'all don't want to get educated. 00:10:05.902 --> 00:10:10.823 I think we just need to wake it up like I'd rather have much more respect for you when you tell me that. 00:10:10.903 --> 00:10:24.227 I just don't want to hear it yeah, exactly, and I think that that was the part that really frustrated me is that there was an entire clip after, like I was making eye contact with josh as it was happening, like I was getting that support from him in the moment. 00:10:24.227 --> 00:10:33.330 So it just was a lot for me in terms of that narrative, because I didn't want to misrepresent a community. 00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:35.745 That's why I didn't

speak on it and Michael Knowles did. 00:10:35.745 --> 00:10:38.043 And that fact check. 00:10:38.043 --> 00:10:40.308 Am I allowed to cuss on here? 00:10:40.509 --> 00:10:41.731 Yes, you're absolutely Bullshit. 00:10:41.731 --> 00:10:44.403 I think so too it was absolute bullshit. 00:10:44.605 --> 00:10:50.294 I agree, I have a native background my mother's from Oklahoma, my grandfather's from Oklahoma. 00:10:51.020 --> 00:10:52.484 My grandmother lives in Oklahoma. 00:10:52.484 --> 00:10:53.846 I'm Cherokee and Choctaw. 00:10:53.846 --> 00:10:54.508 I'm Cherokee. 00:10:54.548 --> 00:10:56.251 Oh, so yeah, yeah, black. 00:10:56.272 --> 00:10:57.094 Cherokee and Choctaw. 00:10:57.094 --> 00:11:09.772 The cheekbones everything Like my, Like my cheekbones are fake, but you look good though, girl. 00:11:09.772 --> 00:11:10.554 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 00:11:10.554 --> 00:11:13.423 We're a little slow on the sound effects today, y'all, so please forgive us. 00:11:14.063 --> 00:11:18.592 But you know, the whole thing just like pissed me off a little bit because it's like the term was created. 00:11:18.592 --> 00:11:22.500 Yeah, they have always existed and it's like it was a term as a blanket statement. 00:11:22.500 --> 00:11:25.971 There's over 130 tribes that have gender variants. 00:11:25.971 --> 00:11:33.870 You can't just say like, you know, this is what it is and a lot of the terms that they called the people to were slurs from white people. 00:11:33.870 --> 00:11:42.130 That's why they created the term two spirit, because it was going to all encompass and bring more positivity to, like our being. 00:11:42.130 --> 00:11:42.831 You know what I mean? 00:11:42.831 --> 00:11:44.835 I didn't know that. 00:11:44.835 --> 00:11:47.285 Yes, god, you better say that. 00:11:47.285 --> 00:11:50.265 It really like pissed me off that he tried to do this whole little thing. 00:11:50.265 --> 00:11:57.610 Like we needed a term, we needed a way to connect to everyone in our communities who are native, who are already marginalized. 00:11:57.610 --> 00:11:58.783 That's why it was made. 00:11:58.924 --> 00:12:04.505 Well, and that's why I said I'm not getting into the semantics of it, because that is a semantic, like I'm not getting into the semantics of it because that is a semantic. 00:12:04.505 --> 00:12:07.712 Like the two spirited people, like you said, have always been here. 00:12:07.712 --> 00:12:12.072 There is documentation. 00:12:12.072 --> 00:12:14.696 The definition he gave me was trying to throw me off Cause. 00:12:14.696 --> 00:12:15.596 What am I going to say to that? 00:12:15.596 --> 00:12:19.051 I made it very clear when I walked in that I wasn't a debater. 00:12:19.051 --> 00:12:21.033 I'd never sat in a debate before. 00:12:21.033 --> 00:12:22.865 I wasn't there to debate the second. 00:12:22.904 --> 00:12:44.241 He walked in and mason had informed me who it was, why, like come on, because a lot of it what people don't know and shane's been in our in episodes as well too it's a lot of blind debating, so you're going in somewhere where you just don't know, you just don't know, michael knowles, no like, got to prepare his question, yes, and gets to do that. 00:12:44.241 --> 00:13:24.039 And a lot of the guests on that side, especially conservative folks- and liberal too, because Sam Cedar was on there and did a fabulous job. 00:13:24.059 --> 00:13:24.681 Here's the thing. 00:13:24.681 --> 00:13:26.535 What is it that Dean guy? 00:13:26.535 --> 00:13:28.175 I saw him on a live. 00:13:28.175 --> 00:13:30.036 I've seen him say a lot of problematic stuff on a live. 00:13:30.036 --> 00:13:31.335 We can even talk about that for a moment. 00:13:31.335 --> 00:13:43.775 But that Dean guy he said on a live that like jubilee didn't give him the same background questions when he did like a 20 versus one, uh versus uh. 00:13:44.377 --> 00:13:55.500 Conservatives himself yeah where he was, the main guy I think I heard he didn't get the same support that, like ben shapiro and michael knolls and all these other guys are getting where, like they're getting the video before it even airs, and stuff like that. 00:13:55.809 --> 00:13:58.238 Yeah, because Michael had a completely different clip even of me. 00:13:58.238 --> 00:13:59.563 I got posted on the Daily Wire. 00:13:59.563 --> 00:14:02.995 Oh wow, I don't know, if you guys saw that they posted me just my clip. 00:14:02.995 --> 00:14:03.918 I don't watch that trash. 00:14:03.918 --> 00:14:04.940 Yeah, I don't either. 00:14:04.940 --> 00:14:09.521 Unfortunately, I was flooded in the comments, like people DMing it to me and tagging me on Twitter. 00:14:20.429 --> 00:14:21.813 It was a completely, completely different clip than jubilee had made. 00:14:21.833 --> 00:14:22.295 It had the jubilee text. 00:14:22.295 --> 00:14:22.656 Yeah, so clearly. 00:14:22.656 --> 00:14:23.218 He had access to the videos. 00:14:23.218 --> 00:14:24.823 Yeah, he misgendered me in the video which they all run to misgendering. 00:14:24.823 --> 00:14:25.304 But, scarlet, guess what? 00:14:25.304 --> 00:14:26.809 Miss ekbu nami has something to say about you. 00:14:27.892 --> 00:14:30.660 So you already, oh god we about to get into it. 00:14:30.660 --> 00:14:37.440 So if we're gonna think about women getting rapes in bathrooms, right, it's a small percentage of trans people that are doing it. 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:42.682 I'm not denying that that's happening, because it is a reality and it's an awful thing for women to have to go through. 00:14:42.849 --> 00:14:43.875 I can appreciate that. 00:14:43.875 --> 00:14:49.801 So now you have a trans person saying yes, there are people with trans identities who go on to sexually assault women. 00:14:49.801 --> 00:14:52.135 Not the very least I can commend that admission. 00:14:56.209 --> 00:14:57.899 But then what are we doing about the men that are the 93 percent of sexual? 00:14:57.919 --> 00:14:58.362 violence towards women?

00:14:58.362 --> 00:15:01.574 No, hopefully arresting them and putting them in prison and what are you doing before that? 00:15:01.694 --> 00:15:12.356 why are men the highest percentage for this, if it's such a bad thing for trans women to use the bathroom when a very, very, very small amount of women are being raped by? 00:15:12.677 --> 00:15:16.329 you know, two issues can exist at once, and we can do work on both of those issues. 00:15:16.409 --> 00:15:20.089 Oh, my god, you can't say that and then not actually have the nuance of what you're actually saying. 00:15:20.089 --> 00:15:23.098 It's like you run into the point and you miss it we'll refer to them also. 00:15:23.198 --> 00:15:30.795 Sexually assault and rape women doesn't mean we don't address the fact that, uh, transgender identifying individuals are also doing the same thing. 00:15:30.855 --> 00:15:38.748 We can do two things at once you don't have this energy cis men, but you have this energy for trans women, because it's just misogyny layered as some weird thing. 00:15:38.748 --> 00:15:41.413 Because you want to be a pick me, and this is all this is. 00:15:41.413 --> 00:15:43.458 This is all this is. 00:15:43.458 --> 00:15:45.121 No, I'm tired of her. 00:15:45.442 --> 00:15:53.183 The woman's bathroom, you can call law enforcement or security and say, hey, a man just came into my bathroom. 00:15:53.183 --> 00:16:07.711 But now, with this legislation, you cannot do that if we're going to have protections for men identifying as women these bathrooms one day she's going to realize it and it's unfortunate because it's going to be some bad experience she has and she's going to see why we say the things we say. 00:16:07.732 --> 00:16:12.070 I think we try to enforce our laws and protect people from this is a cis men problem. 00:16:12.190 --> 00:16:14.775 It's cisgender men that are attacking women. 00:16:14.775 --> 00:16:22.016 These kinds of violent crimes, compared to most of them, don't even get more than two months, if they even get the DNA to prove it, like they have no idea what a victim is. 00:16:22.089 --> 00:16:23.215 This is one area I've experienced. 00:16:23.215 --> 00:16:25.315 We don't need to allow them to do that. 00:16:25.315 --> 00:16:26.299 It's a needless risk. 00:16:26.299 --> 00:16:30.140 It's based on a false view of reality and claims of rights. 00:16:30.829 --> 00:16:32.572 I'm so over it, ok. 00:16:32.572 --> 00:16:34.535 So who wants to say some shit? 00:16:34.535 --> 00:16:37.600 Because I'm so over it, I don't even want to hear that. 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:38.982 Who wants to take the mic? 00:16:38.982 --> 00:16:39.483 I'll take it. 00:16:39.483 --> 00:16:40.670 If you want, go for it. 00:16:40.710 --> 00:16:44.534 Honestly, it was really dumb of her to be like some trans people transition to rape. 00:16:45.516 --> 00:16:48.663 Girl get fucked, respectfully get fucked. 00:16:48.663 --> 00:16:53.574 I didn't want to sit there and be like no trans person is ever raping somebody. 00:16:53.574 --> 00:16:58.868 I didn't want to say like they were a cis man, like dressed as a woman, because, like I don't know who they are. 00:16:58.868 --> 00:17:03.567 I'm not going to validate or invalidate their transness, so there's a possibility, it could happen. 00:17:03.567 --> 00:17:14.343 So we'll just say it happened and like call it a day, even though we know from like our lived experiences that, like trans women are the least likely to sexually assault another woman of any kind. 00:17:14.343 --> 00:17:18.079 So I was like like all right, here we go, we're gonna, we're gonna start with this. 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.699 And then you know she's talking about the whole bathroom sign things, and I love when they do this. 00:17:21.739 --> 00:17:54.685 they leave out the clips like of michael being like well, it doesn't really matter about the signs because a man could just walk in, but she's not going to talk about that no, no, it's because she doesn't have the intellectual capacity to talk about that or or she's trying to create the narrative purposely, because that's what she does to feed her audience, I mean it's wild because I got sent actually your clip of that by somebody from the right and they had sent me a newspaper article of some like gay couple like assaulting a kid and I just went onto Google and I looked up church member assaults child. 00:17:54.685 --> 00:18:02.930 Oh my God, 50 different articles came up, and so I sent him like five and I'm like that's fine Quote, scarlett, that's how you have to do it Like. 00:18:02.950 --> 00:18:04.275 That's how you have to do it. 00:18:04.275 --> 00:18:06.630 It's interesting, yeah, yeah, she. 00:18:06.630 --> 00:18:14.016 Well, she naturally spews hate and then I think she weaponized her base to go out and attack us, because they attack us all the time. 00:18:14.016 --> 00:18:18.519 And you know she, blair White and Buck Angel are no different, just three grifters, you know. 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.022 In my opinion, yeah, and so you know. 00:18:21.142 --> 00:18:22.983 There's some grifters on the left though, too. 00:18:22.983 --> 00:18:23.703 Yeah. 00:18:24.264 --> 00:18:27.027 I think in one of Buck's videos he called me a grifter. 00:18:27.027 --> 00:18:31.837 Good luck, I'm getting booked on your platform and on the liberal ones. 00:18:33.570 --> 00:18:33.911 Wait, wait, wait. 00:18:33.911 --> 00:18:34.794 Didn't he talk about your titties? 00:18:35.075 --> 00:18:35.154 too. 00:18:35.154 --> 00:18:39.355 Yeah, buck Angel was talking about my titties on Pierce Apparently. 00:18:39.355 --> 00:18:41.701 I had this moment where I was just doing this. 00:18:41.701 --> 00:18:43.965 I wasn't intentionally trying to do that or whatever. 00:18:43.985 --> 00:18:44.690 Yes, you were bitch, Don't lie. 00:18:44.850 --> 00:18:47.125 But they just naturally called it that way. 00:18:47.125 --> 00:18:47.668 They're distracting. 00:18:47.668 --> 00:18:47.909 I'm sorry.

00:18:48.510 --> 00:18:51.124 Get out of my face, buck. 00:18:51.144 --> 00:18:54.658 Angel Jesus, yeah, jesus yeah, um, I thought he was supposed to be sex positive too. 00:18:54.658 --> 00:18:56.955 What happened to that little hypocrisy there? 00:18:56.955 --> 00:18:59.144 And well, I don't even know who buck angel is. 00:18:59.144 --> 00:19:00.390 Yeah, most people don't anymore. 00:19:00.390 --> 00:19:04.505 Yeah, he was a character fighting for his life, so you know respectfully. 00:19:04.545 --> 00:19:13.873 He laid on his back for 20, 30 years as a character in porn and he got retired out, in my opinion, by younger trans masculine content creators. 00:19:13.873 --> 00:19:14.964 Shout out to all the trans masculine content creators. 00:19:14.964 --> 00:19:16.853 Shout out to all the trans masculine content creators. 00:19:16.853 --> 00:19:18.256 Shout out fans. 00:19:18.256 --> 00:19:32.520 By the way, we love y'all and porn hub y'all porn hub, everything, and so I feel hashtag ftm if you need to search yeah, I feel that he, I feel that he projects I feel like he projects a lot because he was the man with the pussy. 00:19:32.561 --> 00:19:32.741 That's. 00:19:32.741 --> 00:19:33.834 That's what he was. 00:19:33.913 --> 00:19:41.634 Yeah, named in porn I'm not lying one of the first trans masculine people that I saw, and I saw him on the playboy channel when he sat down on the couch. 00:19:41.634 --> 00:19:44.586 I don't remember the episode, somehow I was like 12 watching. 00:19:44.728 --> 00:19:48.298 They used to make him like a character he walked out like it too. 00:19:48.378 --> 00:20:00.946 He would be like I'm a man with a pussy and but in a way, like he used to do it, empowering, like I even kind of looked up to him because I was like, oh, like yeah, fuck, yeah, I'm a man with a pussy. 00:20:00.946 --> 00:20:08.744 But now it's turned into this weird ass, like same way Joe Rogan just went off the deep end. 00:20:08.744 --> 00:20:09.875 I don't know. 00:20:09.875 --> 00:20:14.922 It's like white men get older and they just get angry. 00:20:14.922 --> 00:20:16.898 I hope Blossom slapped me if that happens to me. 00:20:17.038 --> 00:20:18.043 Oh, I would definitely slap you. 00:20:18.043 --> 00:20:18.645 Slap the shit out of me. 00:20:18.686 --> 00:20:20.692 I would slap the hell out of you, slap the shit out of me. 00:20:21.596 --> 00:20:25.076 We got to get it Like Slap the entire hell out of you. 00:20:25.076 --> 00:20:27.016 You just pressing any button over there. 00:20:27.056 --> 00:20:29.333 I know, we're trying to get them all. 00:20:29.333 --> 00:20:29.854 It's just me. 00:20:29.935 --> 00:20:34.226 And and so y'all Missing said a lot about me. 00:20:34.226 --> 00:20:35.429 I'm going to play the whole clip. 00:20:35.449 --> 00:20:35.730 Go for it. 00:20:35.769 --> 00:20:52.025 Because I actually have a lot to say to Amala, because Amala has said a lot about me in these last two years and I think there are some things I'm going to address for the first time here on the Transparency Podcast show that I have not addressed in the last two years that she and I have been debating you guys are actually dating. 00:20:53.173 --> 00:20:53.796 No, I'm just kidding. 00:20:55.710 --> 00:20:55.890 April F's. 00:20:55.890 --> 00:20:57.093 She could never, she could never. 00:20:57.093 --> 00:21:01.942 And so let's all hear y'all what Miss Thing had to say about me. 00:21:01.942 --> 00:21:02.824 Let's hit the road. 00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:19.644 So Michael Knowles was featured on Jubilee's Surrounded series, where he went head to head with 25 LGBTQIA plus activists, and, of course, he brought up the issue of transgenderism and trans ideology, as he has a now infamous quote about transgenderism. 00:21:19.644 --> 00:21:24.265 And he actually went head to head with three trans individuals, one of whom we recognize on this channel. 00:21:24.265 --> 00:21:30.101 So I figured no better day than today to react to Michael Knowles going head to head with these individuals. 00:21:30.101 --> 00:21:31.571 So let's get right into it. 00:21:31.971 --> 00:21:37.513 My next claim is that transgenderism should be eradicated from public life entirely. 00:21:39.115 --> 00:21:43.747 Here come the Nazi allegations you want to eradicate people. 00:21:43.826 --> 00:21:44.568 He is one. 00:21:44.889 --> 00:21:46.794 Yeah, fucking acknowledges he's a Nazi. 00:21:46.794 --> 00:21:47.757 I understand that, yeah. 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:49.802 Literally just. 00:21:52.731 --> 00:21:53.754 You see all of us face. 00:21:53.754 --> 00:21:55.920 They hate when I come, they hate when I'm there. 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:56.401 I see that. 00:21:56.441 --> 00:21:57.283 I think of the fan edit. 00:21:57.283 --> 00:21:59.435 She heard her as powerhouse the blossom. 00:22:02.782 --> 00:22:03.163 Go ahead. 00:22:03.163 --> 00:22:04.554 I want to know. 00:22:05.778 --> 00:22:06.260 Go ahead. 00:22:06.260 --> 00:22:08.470 I want to know you came to the chat. 00:22:08.590 --> 00:22:09.614 Amala, you know you love her. 00:22:10.998 --> 00:22:23.137 The argument, and of course we know Blossom on this channel, because on this channel, because you're a fan at this point, okay blossom brings problems everywhere she he goes and is always trying to start drama and tell some lies. 00:22:23.137 --> 00:22:28.635 If you guys can go check out our previous videos on blossom and the drama that took place on this channel if you want to know more. 00:22:28.635 --> 00:22:34.298 But I digress, let's get into these arguments your ideology around transgenderism, something that doesn't exist. 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.095 It just sounds more like conservative propaganda. 00:22:36.095 --> 00:22:40.053 So I kind of want to know a little bit more about what you're trying to communicate. 00:22:40.314 --> 00:22:47.898 Okay, I think for all of history, everywhere, people have understood the human person to have something to do with his body.

00:22:47.898 --> 00:22:50.672 So, like your body has something to do with who you are. 00:22:50.672 --> 00:22:54.224 Now there is an alternative view, which is called Gnosticism. 00:22:54.224 --> 00:22:56.592 It's a view that our bodies don't really have. 00:22:56.592 --> 00:22:59.062 So, to be clear, that is not true. 00:22:59.162 --> 00:23:00.467 I've looked it up myself. 00:23:00.467 --> 00:23:01.250 I have no connection. 00:23:01.250 --> 00:23:02.332 He lied about this. 00:23:04.036 --> 00:23:20.245 Bodies, and I see in the transgender ideology a kind of Gnosticism that says that you could look like a man, you could have a man's genetics, you're going to have a man's genitals, you could have have a man's everything, but if you feel on some deep level you are really a woman and I don't think that's. 00:23:20.245 --> 00:23:21.832 He knew way too much about leather stuff. 00:23:21.832 --> 00:23:29.074 The social effects of that are really bad because it leads to the uh, depriving women of their legitimate rights. 00:23:29.074 --> 00:23:36.541 In some cases it leads to rapes, notably in the last few years, and it also leads to women losing their sports competitions. 00:23:36.622 --> 00:23:43.632 and there's, I see an uncomfortable face in fifth place that is a complete lie, amala, because you're just as dumb as he is. 00:23:43.632 --> 00:23:44.654 That's a complete lie. 00:23:44.654 --> 00:23:45.376 No, don't stop it. 00:23:45.376 --> 00:23:46.419 Don't stop it. 00:23:46.419 --> 00:23:48.894 I want, I want to play this out. 00:23:48.913 --> 00:23:55.138 I have a lot to say about this, so it's bad for everyone and it's not grounded in reality oh, I don't even think you understand what you say. 00:23:55.199 --> 00:24:02.615 sometimes I don't think you even understand what you say because when we talk about these rape cases of women in the restroom, they're coming from cis men like you. 00:24:02.615 --> 00:24:04.317 No no that's not true. 00:24:04.337 --> 00:24:05.950 Do not interrupt a black woman when she's speaking. 00:24:06.633 --> 00:24:09.253 I'm just trying to correct you Do not interrupt a black woman when she's speaking. 00:24:09.253 --> 00:24:10.695 I would never interrupt a black woman. 00:24:10.695 --> 00:24:12.378 Woman, oh no, our clip got tiny. 00:24:14.020 --> 00:24:24.608 it still counts, okay, as a trans man, size doesn't matter you are going around, you're spewing that rhetoric, weaponizing this rhetoric against trans people. 00:24:24.608 --> 00:24:28.678 We, as trans people, exist. 00:24:28.678 --> 00:24:32.832 We are one percent of the population and there is a lot of power in the trans identity. 00:24:32.832 --> 00:24:36.058 Because you are sitting here spewing something to me that doesn't really? 00:24:36.078 --> 00:24:36.259 exist. 00:24:36.259 --> 00:24:37.643 I'm not spewing anything, I'm just stating facts. 00:24:37.931 --> 00:24:39.255 I have lived experience. 00:24:39.255 --> 00:24:41.039 You don't and you never will. 00:24:41.100 --> 00:24:49.410 But I mean, I would OK, we really got off the topic here, because the topic was women being raped by transgender identifying individuals. 00:24:50.073 --> 00:24:50.957 That was not the topic. 00:24:51.370 --> 00:24:52.491 That was not the topic. 00:24:52.692 --> 00:24:55.634 Thank you for saying that she's a liar and a drifter. 00:24:55.656 --> 00:25:02.384 We can go through a litany of stories of transgender identifying individuals assaulting women and young girls. 00:25:02.384 --> 00:25:04.746 A litany, oh, hold on, check this out, please. 00:25:04.746 --> 00:25:07.580 You can check out her X feed if you want to find story after story. 00:25:07.830 --> 00:25:11.334 We've covered on this channel different stories Track all that, but not any of these cis men. 00:25:11.334 --> 00:25:12.096 All that, but not any of these cis men. 00:25:12.115 --> 00:25:13.861 Attacking women and men. 00:25:13.861 --> 00:25:19.716 If you want to look up one story just right now by going on Google, type in the name Hannah Tubbs. 00:25:19.716 --> 00:25:20.778 Okay, stop it right there. 00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:36.419 Okay, so I wanted all that to play out for a specific reason, okay, so the case that she's talking about apparently this individual did sexually assault a 10-year-old in the bathroom. 00:25:36.419 --> 00:25:41.823 However, they transitioned later, so it was after. 00:25:41.823 --> 00:25:54.217 So the transition and the name change and everything happened after I was just reading about it and what it was was they were a juvenile at the time and so so what like 16 or something? 00:25:54.310 --> 00:26:03.699 Yeah, but they just got convicted of this at age 28, a few years back, and so they decided to charge them as a juvenile, not as an adult. 00:26:03.699 --> 00:26:06.218 Now I do have a rebuttal to that. 00:26:06.218 --> 00:26:16.797 If we're going to talk, if that's going to be Amala's talking point, let's talk about the cis women who have had sex with underage boys while teaching them in school. 00:26:16.797 --> 00:26:20.257 I actually have a case right here, and it was actually a Lifetime movie about it. 00:26:20.257 --> 00:26:22.250 Let me refresh some memories right here, shit. 00:26:22.270 --> 00:26:23.584 I can't even say too much, honey, you already know. 00:26:23.584 --> 00:26:24.170 I can't even say too much. 00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:25.414 I went to sleepaway camp. 00:26:25.414 --> 00:26:26.238 Let's just say that. 00:26:26.831 --> 00:26:27.913 That's who I'm talking about. 00:26:27.913 --> 00:26:28.958 You better talk about it. 00:26:28.958 --> 00:26:41.499 Come on, we about to get it with miss amala. 00:26:41.499 --> 00:26:41.783 Let's, let's get into it. 00:26:41.783 --> 00:26:42.267 Should I really talk about? 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.097 blossom I can tell you as a very presently queer young person. 00:26:43.990 --> 00:26:44.438 There was a lot of older women that came after me. 00:26:44.438 --> 00:26:44.987 Oh

yeah, 100, I believe you. 00:26:44.987 --> 00:26:45.794 That were way too, and we're talking about mary k. 00:26:45.794 --> 00:26:45.978 How do you pronounce her last? 00:26:45.978 --> 00:26:55.880 Name letourneau letourneau yeah, yeah, so she was the one that had sex with her her sixth grade student and actually had kids with them later on it was a subject of the movie called. 00:26:56.842 --> 00:26:59.649 All-American Girl when he was in high school, with her yeah. 00:27:00.090 --> 00:27:02.057 And then she passed away a few years ago. 00:27:02.057 --> 00:27:15.041 And so what Amala is trying to say, in my opinion, is you're trying to weaponize an entire group of people like trans women for this one story, but are we not weaponizing cis women for her story? 00:27:15.041 --> 00:27:17.553 No, that's what I'm not understanding. 00:27:17.553 --> 00:27:18.095 We're not doing that. 00:27:18.095 --> 00:27:29.474 And so for you, amala, to sit up there and try to weaponize a group of people who had nothing to do with that, yeah at all who will also say boys will be boys for cis men when this stuff happens, or you know what? 00:27:29.653 --> 00:27:31.578 oh, it's not that big of a deal. 00:27:31.578 --> 00:27:48.923 But when trans people which also another point it still wasn't a trans person Technically, if we're going to play the technicality and the semantics that they love to play the semantics of it is, this person did this as a minor pre-transition, right? 00:27:48.923 --> 00:27:52.096 So technically, in that identity they were a cis person doing this. 00:27:52.096 --> 00:28:03.297 And now you've taken that narrative to twist it Just so again you can once again create this one more statistic because you guys reach every which way on the internet to find the one time it happens. 00:28:03.678 --> 00:28:10.253 But you have thousands, hundreds of millions of cases of rape from cisgender men. 00:28:10.253 --> 00:28:21.510 And again, most people know my case, my, you know, I'm going to say suspect in my case, with DNA found and everything that happened to me, blossom. 00:28:21.510 --> 00:28:35.543 You know the whole story, right, I had to change my employment and move and my whole life and lost more than I'm even ready to talk about on the podcast yet. 00:28:35.543 --> 00:28:53.571 But, right, and the way that especially sexual violence happens from cisgender men and the way the system is set up for them to just basically get away with it because, even if I'm sorry, scarlett- Please keep continuing. 00:28:54.093 --> 00:28:54.614 I'm fine. 00:28:54.614 --> 00:28:56.711 You need to share your story. 00:29:00.266 --> 00:29:06.448 I've told it a lot and I so I'm a little numb to it at a certain point, because I've used it to help people, empower them. 00:29:06.448 --> 00:29:16.326 With the activism that I've done, I've literally changed laws for this, but, like what happened to me, I was able to change all that stuff my personal justice. 00:29:16.326 --> 00:29:26.731 That person got to live their life and is living their life and walking on the streets and and and didn't just harm me, harmed another person who killed themselves. 00:29:26.731 --> 00:29:35.635 There was so much in my case that I never got justice part of the reason why I even started this podcast, because I feel like I lost my voice through all of the struggle that I went through. 00:29:35.635 --> 00:29:41.151 Um, and it was part of my healing process and that's why I you know, even though we made the joke in the beginning blossom. 00:29:41.151 --> 00:29:46.448 I really do love you and I love our partnership and the things we've been through together, like, oh I love. 00:29:46.589 --> 00:29:48.413 Oh, you already know I love you. 00:29:48.894 --> 00:30:09.936 I, I genuinely love you from the bottom of my heart what amala is doing is amazing is is is like as someone who's actually like, and not only that, like when my story popped off, everybody's story of what happened to them in in the areas they came to me flooding, and there's so many stories of sexual violence and majority of those stories are cis gender men. 00:30:09.936 --> 00:30:17.312 Gay or straight doesn't matter, it's cis gender men that are doing this and there's no energy. 00:30:17.312 --> 00:30:21.233 It's like you say you care about women's sports but you can't name the top five basketball players. 00:30:21.968 --> 00:30:23.884 She can never give reputable resources. 00:30:23.884 --> 00:30:29.018 If you ever listen to Amla's videos, I've called her out many times of this and I'm a firm believer. 00:30:29.018 --> 00:30:35.397 That's why she had me on her podcast with Buck Angel, because I called her out about not having reputable resources. 00:30:35.397 --> 00:30:41.051 I'm sorry, jk Rowling, giving opinion pieces is not reputable Girl, please. 00:30:41.051 --> 00:30:42.238 I tried to google. 00:30:42.238 --> 00:30:44.869 I can't these cases that she speaks so much about. 00:30:44.869 --> 00:30:45.832 I couldn't find nothing. 00:30:45.832 --> 00:30:58.076 The whole thing michael was telling me about the narcissist, whatever it's, something dealing with plants and photosynthesis, with the venus fly trap I saw nothing on what he was saying and almost like that's that's. 00:30:58.076 --> 00:31:01.633 That's not a lie, because y'all like to grift. 00:31:02.215 --> 00:31:03.177 Because she's not going to check her. 00:31:03.285 --> 00:31:10.718 She's not going to check anything, and the people that follow her, that love her and support her or whatever like that, they fall for it and that's on them. 00:31:11.025 --> 00:31:16.317 But sometimes that plays to their advantage because, like Scarlett said, she's experienced the left harming her. 00:31:16.457 --> 00:31:16.758 Yeah. 00:31:16.985 --> 00:31:18.733 So it's like where's the nuance? 00:31:18.733 --> 00:31:25.074 Where do we find, how do we actually support people that are in these spaces? 00:31:25.074 --> 00:31:26.945

Because a lot of these people are like, oh, I care about a survivor, I care about this. 00:31:26.945 --> 00:31:31.893 You know, I had reached out to so many people influencers back when I was. 00:31:31.893 --> 00:31:37.552 Nobody gave a shit until I really reached a certain threshold, and even then they were still like oh, good job. 00:31:38.065 --> 00:31:53.690 You know, and there was not the resources and, surprisingly, people that are extremely problematic, that would get canceled on the internet, like I was telling scarlet before we were shooting, were some of the most helpful people to me and reached out to me and checked up on me and made sure I was okay, you know. 00:31:53.690 --> 00:32:02.638 So it's like we have to create a nuance and a space for people to grow and have conversation, because I understand mistakes can be made, like no trans person is perfect. 00:32:02.638 --> 00:32:10.858 Let's be 100% real and that's why I understand why you were giving that to Michael when you had that, because you were trying to in a debate. 00:32:10.858 --> 00:32:17.174 You're trying to concede in some sense so that there is a middle ground, so you reach a point of communication where you guys understand each other. 00:32:17.174 --> 00:32:23.368 But with this Jubilee production and it happens quite often is like they clip, farm it and then you get pasted. 00:32:23.368 --> 00:32:26.049 As you know this person who thinks this way. 00:32:26.049 --> 00:32:29.211 You don't know what two-spirit is, even though that's your near-lived experience. 00:32:29.672 --> 00:32:41.499 Blossom is the angry black woman, every chance that they can get and it's like how many times are you going to see the conversation around trans people and not just get tired Like we've got? 00:32:41.499 --> 00:32:44.921 And I know it's cliche, I know Laverne Cox said it, but I'm going to say it again. 00:32:44.921 --> 00:32:48.003 I've already said it before we are focusing on the wrong 1%. 00:32:48.343 --> 00:32:57.216 No, and I even going back to what you said about Mary Letourneau, I at my high school there was a teacher that was having sex with an underage student. 00:32:57.216 --> 00:33:07.969 Her daughter was actually her, his daughter was actually her, his boyfriend so they were together. 00:33:07.969 --> 00:33:08.311 It was so fucked. 00:33:08.311 --> 00:33:09.234 So it's not like this is just like a one time. 00:33:09.234 --> 00:33:11.381 And there was another teacher at a high school near me that did the same thing and they were both women. 00:33:11.381 --> 00:33:12.664 So like it isn't just trans people and it's not just men either. 00:33:12.966 --> 00:33:19.139 Yeah, so I don't like the over generalization of like, oh, it's just trans people that are going out. 00:33:19.139 --> 00:33:21.972 Girl, when I go to the bathroom, I'm walking in to walk out. 00:33:21.972 --> 00:33:22.936 I need to pee. 00:33:22.936 --> 00:33:24.950 Get me out of there, like god. 00:33:25.170 --> 00:33:30.328 It's so frustrating right, but people like Amla don't want to have a genuine conversation. 00:33:30.328 --> 00:33:31.451 Yeah, right, you know. 00:33:31.451 --> 00:33:46.539 And so there was one more piece and I really wanted to react and this one may be a little bit longer because I have a lot to say because she wanted to know what's the difference between a man and a trans woman, and so we're going to. 00:33:46.561 --> 00:33:47.305 There's a lot of differences. 00:33:47.305 --> 00:33:48.850 Can we touch on the last subject before you go? 00:33:48.891 --> 00:33:49.010 there. 00:33:49.010 --> 00:33:49.974 Yeah, go for it, go for it. 00:33:50.045 --> 00:33:55.856 So the one thing that I thought was kind of interesting was like Blair White reacted to me and like she said I looked over glazed. 00:33:55.856 --> 00:33:58.986 And like what she said, you looked over glazed. 00:33:58.986 --> 00:34:03.431 Yeah, she said like my brain looked calcified or something, but I wanted to touch on that. 00:34:03.451 --> 00:34:04.552 Get out of here. 00:34:04.552 --> 00:34:06.054 That's her upper top lip move. 00:34:06.054 --> 00:34:11.679 I have not seen Blur White's upper top lip move, in my opinion, in so long. 00:34:12.581 --> 00:34:13.661 How dare she come for you? 00:34:13.661 --> 00:34:14.485 Absolutely not. 00:34:14.485 --> 00:34:15.490 There was a reason for that. 00:34:15.490 --> 00:34:18.818 And like, going back to like your story, I had a similar experience Like when I was a minor. 00:34:18.818 --> 00:34:19.757 I was fiercely sexually assaulted. 00:34:19.757 --> 00:34:19.703 I had a similar experience Like when I was a minor. 00:34:19.703 --> 00:34:24.275 I was fiercely sexually assaulted and nobody cared because I was a boy. 00:34:24.275 --> 00:34:29.451 And they were like that doesn't happen to boys and like men don't do that and like that was. 00:34:29.451 --> 00:34:32.018 You know, it was a Christian person, and so I was like they don't do that. 00:34:32.018 --> 00:34:42.039 And so when I was having that conversation with Michael, I was very like not present because of the way he was downplaying like the seriousness of sexual assault. 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.821 Yeah, I was like, yeah, I'm like you can see how I'm reacting to it now. 00:34:45.821 --> 00:34:50.650 I'm like if I were to continue to like show any emotion with him, I would have had the same reaction. 00:34:50.670 --> 00:34:52.971 Yeah, you would have pulled a. 00:34:53.031 --> 00:34:54.094 Ben Shapiro. 00:34:54.134 --> 00:34:56.270 Nice to meet you I loved that. 00:34:56.404 --> 00:34:57.227 That was my favorite. 00:34:57.227 --> 00:35:06.658 But I also experienced sexual abuse at the hands of a director and I wasn't even looked at, even though I was showing clear signs that I was being um abused. 00:35:06.658 --> 00:35:09.527 Yeah, nobody cared because I was a little boy and I was 16. 00:35:09.527 --> 00:35:16.811 So they're like oh, no, little boys can, at 16, are gonna

get assaulted and not talk about it, and it very much so does happen. 00:35:16.851 --> 00:35:25.068 Yeah, like, yeah, so you were seeing all of you guys are, oh my gosh I don't even fit the male gaze, so they don't think that like I could even be assaulted. 00:35:25.068 --> 00:35:30.810 They're just like, oh, that's a dyke woman, like that's how they see me, and they're like who would want to have sex with that? 00:35:30.870 --> 00:35:32.715 but like yeah, check my ds, all right. 00:35:32.715 --> 00:35:36.821 So let's squeeze this in really quickly, y'all, because I got one more thing. 00:35:36.821 --> 00:35:37.905 Oh no, we got plenty of time. 00:35:37.945 --> 00:35:40.090 make sure I paid extra for a long episode today. 00:35:40.090 --> 00:35:42.717 Don't worry, daddy's got you Do we have time. 00:35:42.717 --> 00:35:44.169 We got hella time. 00:35:44.169 --> 00:35:46.047 Listen, keep it going, keep it flowing. 00:35:46.047 --> 00:35:46.951 I like the conversation. 00:35:47.384 --> 00:35:51.172 I'm like oh my gosh, y'all have to forgive me today because I'm so anxious to do this. 00:35:51.172 --> 00:35:57.074 I've been studying, practicing, because it's time to hear my side of the story. 00:35:57.074 --> 00:36:06.004 So let's just play this last clip from miss ekbu nambi oh, I'm just, I'm just trying to correct. 00:36:06.445 --> 00:36:09.511 Well, I would never, I would, I would never interrupt a black woman. 00:36:09.511 --> 00:36:09.992 Thank, you. 00:36:11.034 --> 00:36:13.286 I would never interrupt a black woman. 00:36:13.286 --> 00:36:15.110 Think about me as a black. 00:36:15.130 --> 00:36:15.893 That is your trademark. 00:36:15.893 --> 00:36:16.134 I love it. 00:36:16.134 --> 00:36:16.654 I am not a. 00:36:16.815 --> 00:36:18.065 It is when they hate it. 00:36:18.065 --> 00:36:19.589 It's harmful that you are going around. 00:36:19.589 --> 00:36:23.157 You're spewing that rhetoric, weaponizing this rhetoric against trans people. 00:36:23.217 --> 00:36:23.763 Weaponizing facts. 00:36:23.985 --> 00:36:25.411 Transgenderism does not exist. 00:36:25.411 --> 00:36:27.190 We, as trans people exist. 00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:34.819 We are 1% of the population and there is a lot of power in the trans identity, because you are sitting here spewing something to me that doesn't really exist. 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.789 I'm not spewing anything, I'm just stating facts plainly, I have lived experience. 00:36:37.931 --> 00:36:43.786 You don't, you don't and you never will, but I mean I would, I would. 00:36:43.786 --> 00:36:45.446 Okay, we really got off the top okay, this is where we did. 00:36:45.446 --> 00:36:48.891 I push the same button again you might have pushed the same by transgender identifying individuals you're supposed to hit three. 00:36:48.931 --> 00:36:49.833 That's not true. 00:36:49.833 --> 00:36:50.635 In fact it is. 00:36:50.635 --> 00:36:53.009 Oh, it is three who are raping these women. 00:36:53.009 --> 00:37:00.932 Okay, now you

can go through a litany of stories of transgender identifying individuals assaulting women and young girls. 00:37:00.932 --> 00:37:03.137 Jk Rowling has done extensive work on this topic. 00:37:03.137 --> 00:37:06.153 You can check out her X feed if you want to find story after story. 00:37:06.273 --> 00:37:06.995 Fictional writer. 00:37:07.705 --> 00:37:12.304 All different stories of transgender, identifying individuals, attacking women and men. 00:37:12.304 --> 00:37:18.024 Someone who writes about wands is your point of reference, just right now by going on Google, type in the name Hannah Tubbs. 00:37:18.044 --> 00:37:19.426 Pretty much just stole Star Wars with wands. 00:37:19.507 --> 00:37:23.751 A male who assaulted a young girl, a little girl, sexually assaulted. 00:37:23.751 --> 00:37:28.077 That little girl went on to identify as transgender. 00:37:28.077 --> 00:37:30.120 Has the whole name changed to? 00:37:30.181 --> 00:37:30.520 Hannah. 00:37:30.864 --> 00:37:33.114 So we can substantiate these claims. 00:37:33.114 --> 00:37:44.750 Now Blossom is going to make the argument that there are cis men who are weaponizing the trans identity in order to assault women, and I in no way deny that that is a fact that there are, men may actually agree on oh, look at that. 00:37:44.789 --> 00:37:47.335 You actually one thing you convinced her. 00:37:47.335 --> 00:37:55.413 Look, she's changing watch, she's going to be on the podcast and we're all going to be hugging once it's in the future thing again between a cis man and a transgender woman even blair white. 00:37:55.433 --> 00:38:02.565 She's going to come to the podcast to watch what the difference is between those two individuals, and you can't give me a difference because let's pause it. 00:38:02.565 --> 00:38:03.025 I do. 00:38:03.025 --> 00:38:06.092 If you've gone through the medical, stop it that's where I wanted to do that at. 00:38:06.694 --> 00:38:10.149 yeah, no, so I actually can appreciate amla for saying this. 00:38:10.149 --> 00:38:14.147 You know there are many differences between trans women and cisgender men. 00:38:14.147 --> 00:38:22.681 One really has to do with gender identity and let's be very clear cis men do not have a gender identity problem with With trans women. 00:38:22.681 --> 00:38:30.778 There is an incongruency of some sort, and so trans women depending on what that looks like transition off of that. 00:38:30.778 --> 00:38:37.625 Now, some trans women transition physically, some just do it emotionally, spiritually, mentally, like. 00:38:37.625 --> 00:38:43.798 There are so many different ways of doing that and we have to remember the transgender community is on a spectrum. 00:38:43.904 --> 00:38:54.972 There's so many different things, and I find it crazy that you would even ask me that, amala, when you're a debater yourself and you can't even look up that information. 00:38:54.972 --> 00:39:00.411 There are so many reputable resources, which I'm actually going to give you some that talks about gender identity. 00:39:00.411 --> 00:39:19.225 One reputable resource, in my humble opinion, is the 2012 book Introduction to Behavioral Science and Medicine that says that, with exceptions, gender identity develops surprisingly rapidly in early childhood years and, in the majority of instances, appear to become at least partially irreversible by the age of three and four. 00:39:19.507 --> 00:39:35.352 Drop the fact, even the National Public Institute of Health talks about gender identity, and so there's a lot of reputable resources for gender identity, and I think what you try to do is you want to try to look at things from a practical point of view. 00:39:35.352 --> 00:39:49.388 All y'all want to talk about is biological sex, but let's also talk about the women, because I think in your because we didn't watch the whole video and I kind of wish we did I love you to death, but amala talked about when you were doing this part, or what or whatnot. 00:39:49.388 --> 00:39:55.194 They were talking about michael, no saying oh, you can tell a trans woman when you see one, absolutely not. 00:39:55.274 --> 00:40:09.668 That's not necessarily true, because that's why ben shapiro said bro and here's the thing some cis women like amala can experience transphobia the same way we can, because when we talk about genetics I've talked about this on pierce morgan everybody act like they don't want to hear me. 00:40:09.668 --> 00:40:24.717 There are some cis women amani, khalif naturally have higher testosterone levels, like her and who had to experience that transphobia and we're seeing videos of cis women being accused of being trans in the bathroom- Transvestigated. 00:40:24.884 --> 00:40:33.299 And being attacked and harassed because of what Amala and Michael Knowles and Blair White and Chuck Angel are pushing on the internet. 00:40:33.299 --> 00:40:40.669 In our humble opinion, like cis, women are being highly affected by that, and followed by men. 00:40:40.931 --> 00:40:43.891 Security, like following them into the women's press room. 00:40:43.951 --> 00:40:55.697 Conversations are cumulative, and that's the thing that these folks don't quite understand is that they're creating the narrative on the internet and it's like we as a human society, conversations are 100% cumulative. 00:40:55.697 --> 00:41:00.407 So if we're all having this conversation and there's a bunch of people that are creating this narrative. 00:41:01.449 --> 00:41:03.777 Of course it's going to start creating this idea. 00:41:03.777 --> 00:41:05.271 It's like I see a red car. 00:41:05.271 --> 00:41:08.614 You're going to start always seeing a red car if you're always looking for a red car. 00:41:08.614 --> 00:41:19.216 It's that whole theory and it's like you're perpetuating that to then create a narrative about trans people, while the percentage of trans people to even exist is still 1%. 00:41:19.216 --> 00:41:37.114 Meanwhile, you have an entire huge

system set up for all of these other people to cause abuse and you're just silent on it and, if anything, you find ways to co-sign it in ways and be like, oh again, not so bad, not so hard, or I can see how that happened, or this, that and the other, but you don't have that grace for trans people. 00:41:37.114 --> 00:41:38.096 Check out the loophole. 00:41:42.724 --> 00:41:43.908 I'm going to tell you what Amala and them are doing. 00:41:43.908 --> 00:41:55.809 They're trying to take trans people who don't transition physically but more socially, mentally and other things, and trying to stick cis men raping people and all of a sudden identifying as trans afterwards into that and trying to make a talking point. 00:41:55.809 --> 00:42:01.652 I've heard it with Michael Knowles, I've heard it with Blair and I'm like okay, so I'm catching the loopholes. 00:42:01.652 --> 00:42:04.929 Now I'm catching what y'all are trying to do and that's not okay. 00:42:04.929 --> 00:42:10.511 A lot of these cis men are doing it just because they're despicable and disgusting, but it's not coming from trans women. 00:42:10.511 --> 00:42:18.094 Trans women are an identity and this whole thing around transgenderism being an ideology how are we an ideology when we're sitting right here in front of you? 00:42:18.094 --> 00:42:18.725 That makes no sense. 00:42:18.725 --> 00:42:19.067 In front of you. 00:42:19.067 --> 00:42:22.192 That makes no sense, and Michael and Amala are too dumb in my opinion to see it. 00:42:22.212 --> 00:42:23.414 I was trying to explain it in my debate too. 00:42:23.414 --> 00:42:24.136 I was trying to explain it. 00:42:24.136 --> 00:42:26.889 Yes, you were Like hello, I have lived experience. 00:42:26.889 --> 00:42:28.574 I'm sitting in front of you as a trans woman. 00:42:28.574 --> 00:42:30.349 I have that experience. 00:42:30.349 --> 00:42:36.748 You cannot sit here and tell me that it's just an ideology. 00:42:36.748 --> 00:42:38.569 What happens to the woman? 00:42:38.609 --> 00:42:39.911 Yeah, what does he think? 00:42:39.911 --> 00:42:41.852 And here's the thing Amala and Michael. 00:42:41.873 --> 00:42:42.692 You're just going to disappear. 00:42:42.873 --> 00:42:45.394 They play off of trans issues. 00:42:45.394 --> 00:42:52.960 They play off of making content and debates on trans issues, issues that they don't even exist, I'm sorry, issues that they don't even live. 00:42:52.960 --> 00:43:02.454 They do not live these experiences and, amala, grifts of trans issues all the time and I'm going to check you issues all the time and I'm going to check you because we need to really talk about this whole thing. 00:43:02.454 --> 00:43:08.371 With me appearing on the podcast with Buck Angel, this is the part I've never addressed in two years. 00:43:09.565 --> 00:43:11.251 Now, as y'all know, Get the tea. 00:43:11.311 --> 00:43:17.135 It's hot, let's get ready, yeah, so my first Jubilee debate was called trans women versus conservative women. 00:43:17.135 --> 00:43:27.348 That's where I met Amala and I've met other people there, and so a lot was edited out, but me and Amala were the ones going back and forth, like I have to admit, like in that debate I thought she was really good. 00:43:27.348 --> 00:43:28.352 You know what I mean. 00:43:28.352 --> 00:43:29.107 To keep up with me. 00:43:29.167 --> 00:43:43.649 I thought we were just having yeah, we were sparring pretty well and she worked at this particular platform, which we will not name, or whatnot, and so, cause I didn't know who she was, and so in that video I asked, do you have any resources? 00:43:43.649 --> 00:43:48.152 Because she was talking about bone density and she tried to reverse the question back to me. 00:43:48.152 --> 00:43:50.953 She was like do you know the amount of bone density? 00:43:50.953 --> 00:43:51.634 Da-da-da-da-da. 00:43:51.634 --> 00:44:01.379 And I was just like no, I don't, because I'm not going to listen to that, because it's not real and it's not true, because everybody has different body chemistry. 00:44:01.379 --> 00:44:02.280 Yeah, I know 100%. 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:07.303 And you don't know somebody's chromosomal account, somebody's bone density level, the size of somebody's heart and lungs. 00:44:07.503 --> 00:44:09.004 Yeah, my feet are bigger than Blossom's actually. 00:44:09.004 --> 00:44:09.524 Yeah, they actually are. 00:44:09.524 --> 00:44:11.673 I'm a size 14 in men's and she's like damn. 00:44:11.924 --> 00:44:18.250 But conservatives play off of that talking point and they've tried to make it into something, and so that was that. 00:44:18.250 --> 00:44:24.411 Now Amala, at the end of that episode, asked me verbally if I would come on her podcast with other trans women. 00:44:24.411 --> 00:44:31.210 I thought it was okay because we had just debated with other trans women, and I want you to understand something this was my first debate. 00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:33.764 That debate that we're talking about was my first debate. 00:44:33.764 --> 00:44:45.866 Technically, this was my second debate, but I don't include this in my accounts of debates and so I came there and so I was like, let me just be open, honest. 00:44:45.866 --> 00:44:46.688 We had a good conversation on set. 00:44:46.688 --> 00:44:48.612 Me and the ladies got along why not? 00:44:49.254 --> 00:45:02.736 So a couple of days before, amala sends me a text message saying that Buck was going to be on there Now for me, I got upset because I was just like these aren't the trans women that you verbally told me. 00:45:02.736 --> 00:45:06.829 However, this is what she keeps villainizing me for and criminalizing me for. 00:45:06.829 --> 00:45:17.634 I did say okay, I'm still going to come, even though it was not originally what she said, and you have to remember I'm a new debater at this time. 00:45:17.634 --> 00:45:21.474 I wanted to be kind, I wanted to be nice. 00:45:21.474 --> 00:45:30.891 I said okay, but that still does not

take away from the fact that you told me verbally that it was going to be other women, trans women, on your podcast. 00:45:31.071 --> 00:45:32.973 And Amala, you know you said it. 00:45:32.973 --> 00:45:34.815 You said it verbally to me. 00:45:34.815 --> 00:45:38.657 So while you're lying to your base, won't you actually tell them the truth? 00:45:38.657 --> 00:45:46.573 It does not take away the text message about buck, does not take away from what you told me verbally about it. 00:45:46.573 --> 00:45:54.886 So we get to the podcast and we I was greeted okay, she was bootlicking the Buck Angel. 00:45:54.886 --> 00:45:57.107 They were worshiping Buck Angel like nobody's business. 00:45:57.107 --> 00:46:02.707 But that was my first time meeting him and, ironically, me and Buck were great on set. 00:46:02.707 --> 00:46:03.790 We did not argue. 00:46:03.790 --> 00:46:06.228 It wasn't no snootiness or whatever. 00:46:06.228 --> 00:46:11.755 So for us to kind of be mortal enemies after it is what it is Because he's two-faced. 00:46:11.775 --> 00:46:12.798 Because he went behind your back. 00:46:12.798 --> 00:46:14.304 Exactly he's very two-faced. 00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:18.742 What did he do? 00:46:18.742 --> 00:46:24.141 Uh, oh gosh, so it was funny because I didn't catch this to like this uh, the debate with blair that we did so when we were on set. 00:46:24.141 --> 00:46:38.539 Um, I did remind him that he called a black trans woman a monkey yeah, ashley mary preston, yeah, yeah, um, and so I didn't mention the name there, but he pretty much got canceled after that. 00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:40.404 But he got, so canceled he's like what? 00:46:40.404 --> 00:46:44.722 That is a lie that he came to a protest and everybody's like why the hell are you here? 00:46:44.722 --> 00:46:45.123 And he. 00:46:45.123 --> 00:46:47.007 They made him leave because they were. 00:46:47.067 --> 00:46:56.819 Yeah, it was bad yeah, so he, he's like in person community, not online like real life yeah, he's a compulsive liar and being there with on that set with amala. 00:46:56.919 --> 00:47:08.842 It's funny because amala made this slick comment about um, her producer being there by the computer in case she needed to look up anything, because it was a jab at me for telling her where are your sources for what you're saying? 00:47:08.842 --> 00:47:10.608 Because I wanted to look up these sources. 00:47:10.608 --> 00:47:12.181 Like I'm a debater, I'm a researcher. 00:47:12.181 --> 00:47:18.173 If you're gonna spew statistics and spew things to me, you should be able to tell me where you're getting it from. 00:47:18.173 --> 00:47:22.750 Amla never does that, buck Angel never does that, nor Blair White does that. 00:47:22.879 --> 00:47:24.204 Jubilee doesn't even do it Realize. 00:47:24.204 --> 00:47:25.469 We don't know until it's produced. 00:47:25.469 --> 00:47:26.161 I need to know. 00:47:26.181 --> 00:47:33.024 That's how I found out that Michael Knowles was spewing bullshit

to me in a debate, and so we debated. 00:47:33.024 --> 00:47:34.406 That was that. 00:47:34.406 --> 00:47:39.594 I am still entitled to my personal experience and my personal feelings. 00:47:39.594 --> 00:47:48.471 Now, the fact that Amla does not like that and calls it lying, that's on her, and you know, I want to say something else to Amla and I'm going to wrap this up. 00:47:48.471 --> 00:47:49.538 I'm going to truly wrap this up. 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:51.748 No, feel free, because she's been coming for you for a few months. 00:47:51.839 --> 00:47:52.764 Yeah, because here's the thing. 00:47:52.764 --> 00:47:58.424 She was on Piers Morgan morgan um a while ago and they were talking about dei um. 00:47:58.424 --> 00:48:04.088 I think she was on her with mark lamont and everything or whatever, and amala was talking about dei needs to die. 00:48:04.088 --> 00:48:05.934 Well, amala, check this, clap back. 00:48:05.934 --> 00:48:09.724 Weren't you the dei higher at a certain platform? 00:48:09.724 --> 00:48:14.321 Before they candace owens your ass, damn before they candace owens you out. 00:48:14.321 --> 00:48:21.188 And now you're at home making videos damn making your content from videos because you had a producer there, the white guy. 00:48:21.188 --> 00:48:21.809 Where is he? 00:48:21.849 --> 00:48:25.268 wait, and it's a verb now yeah, they can. 00:48:25.288 --> 00:48:27.616 This owns you there because they wanted to remind you. 00:48:27.616 --> 00:48:29.181 You are still in fear. 00:48:29.181 --> 00:48:32.786 You are deemed inferior as a black person. 00:48:32.786 --> 00:48:35.029 Sometimes she's identified as a black person. 00:48:35.029 --> 00:48:36.332 Sometimes she's identified as a mixed person. 00:48:36.332 --> 00:48:39.485 Other times she's identified as a black person and she's entitled to that. 00:48:40.460 --> 00:48:46.391 But here's the thing, and we talk so much about who was assigned what at birth. 00:48:46.391 --> 00:48:58.262 Just like Amla cannot help that she has a black father and a white mother, that's assigned to her, trans people cannot help what they were assigned before, the incongruency. 00:48:58.262 --> 00:49:05.324 And so this whole thing about biology, biology, biology again, y'all don't want to talk about genetics, like y'all. 00:49:05.324 --> 00:49:07.009 Y'all don't want to do any of these things. 00:49:07.009 --> 00:49:11.389 But and let me also make this clear she also said this, I think, about all of us. 00:49:11.389 --> 00:49:16.205 She said no matter how much hormones you take, the surgeries you have, you will never be a woman. 00:49:16.205 --> 00:49:17.288 Let me check you on that. 00:49:17.288 --> 00:49:26.992 Let me make it very clear the amount of hormones and amount that I do to my body to transition is not a threat to cis women and it's none of your damn business. 00:49:26.992 --> 00:49:33.433 I am not out here trying to be a threat to cis women because I want to live my life in transition. 00:49:33.433 --> 00:49:37.230 I am not out here trying to take up anything from anybody. 00:49:37.230 --> 00:49:43.088 I'm not trying to take up space from anyone, since women deserve a seat at the table as well as trans women. 00:49:43.088 --> 00:49:44.725 Trans women are a type of women. 00:49:44.725 --> 00:49:54.632 Trans is adjective okay, trans is an adjective and it describes the type of woman that it is, and so this whole ideology that y'all are trying to spew is crazy to me. 00:49:55.080 --> 00:49:57.469 All I saw online in your video was jealousy. 00:49:57.469 --> 00:50:08.625 I saw a lot of projection and I feel like you feel threatened by trans women, and that's not on us, that falls on you. 00:50:08.625 --> 00:50:13.010 I think those braids you had in your hair are screwed in a little too tight to your brain. 00:50:13.010 --> 00:50:17.144 To be quite honest with you and I say that with love and respect I'm you and I say that with love and respect. 00:50:17.144 --> 00:50:23.323 I'm gonna actually say that with love and respect here, because the thing is, you never talk about anything else. 00:50:23.464 --> 00:50:25.352 All you want to do is grift to trans issues. 00:50:25.352 --> 00:50:27.019 You will never be a trans woman. 00:50:27.019 --> 00:50:33.896 You will never, ever in your entire life, be a trans woman or experience what we face. 00:50:33.896 --> 00:50:35.561 You are in a place of privilege. 00:50:35.561 --> 00:50:43.828 You are so lucky as a cis woman that you don't have to go through the harassment and the discrimination and the violence that we, as trans people, go through. 00:50:43.828 --> 00:50:47.443 It doesn't matter if you're a trans man or a trans woman or a non-binary person. 00:50:47.443 --> 00:50:53.446 You are in a place of privilege where you can sit behind your little funky camera and say these things about trans people. 00:50:53.446 --> 00:50:56.753 But the reality of it is I cleared you in the first debate. 00:50:56.753 --> 00:51:02.669 I annihilated you and destroyed you in the first debate in my humble opinion, and you've never been able to get over it. 00:51:02.669 --> 00:51:04.927 But after this, I'm done with you. 00:51:04.927 --> 00:51:09.826 I pay you to dust Dust and I want you to know that. 00:51:10.179 --> 00:51:37.902 And so that is my truth, that is my experience, and I am not backing down from it anymore I wish amala, instead of sending her base to weaponize us in the comments or whatever, how about you actually engage in a respectful dialogue with trans people and not buck angel, not blair white, not a trans conservative, because trans conservatives are oxymoron and those that follow you, I think, are lost in the sauce per usual and cause? 00:51:37.902 --> 00:51:40.870 Some of those people actually did write to me in the DM. 00:51:40.870 --> 00:51:45.840 They were talking about you and I in particular, something about us being emotional. 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:46.882 Well, here's the thing.

00:51:46.922 --> 00:51:48.123 They said we were all emotional. 00:51:48.123 --> 00:51:50.023 Yeah, Even say that, but but but what's? 00:51:50.063 --> 00:51:50.784 but here's the thing. 00:51:50.784 --> 00:52:01.051 What's wrong with being emotional when you have an administration that's attacking trans people, that's sitting up there trying to eradicate trans people by saying that on our passports you can only be male or female? 00:52:01.051 --> 00:52:03.413 There is nothing wrong with showing emotion. 00:52:03.413 --> 00:52:08.717 A lot of y'all don't have the emotional capacity and the emotional intelligence. 00:52:08.717 --> 00:52:10.760 That's the problem here. 00:52:10.781 --> 00:52:19.103 It's powerful to be able to express emotion and even at time like at times empathy within a conversation to somebody that doesn't deserve it. 00:52:19.103 --> 00:52:19.605 I was. 00:52:19.605 --> 00:52:33.663 I at some point just kind of put my hands down with michael and was free of that, or even like I saw a bunch like the one that really got me was chloe cole she had a lot to say about me on twitter did. 00:52:33.683 --> 00:52:34.364 Did she really and? 00:52:34.444 --> 00:52:34.645 she did. 00:52:34.645 --> 00:52:35.245 Now, who was this? 00:52:35.586 --> 00:52:38.850 She's a very, very, very prominent detransitioner. 00:52:38.850 --> 00:52:41.153 That was mentioned in my debate with Michael Knowles. 00:52:41.173 --> 00:52:42.375 Conservative propaganda. 00:52:42.940 --> 00:52:44.966 Detransitioners are not real, didn't she like testify? 00:52:44.966 --> 00:52:45.969 They're conservative propaganda. 00:52:45.969 --> 00:52:46.640 Did she testify? 00:52:46.640 --> 00:52:47.602 That makes like a whole bunch of money. 00:52:47.682 --> 00:52:54.797 So essentially she has come from what I saw, because I didn't know who she was before it was told to me, um, in the debate. 00:52:54.797 --> 00:53:04.013 She is somebody who was transitioned as a minor, had surgeries as a minor and obviously was a product from. 00:53:04.013 --> 00:53:11.940 She clearly wasn't trans and I don't feel that detransitioners represent the trans community they don't. 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:12.902 And here's the thing, though. 00:53:12.902 --> 00:53:15.009 Minors can't have surgeries. 00:53:15.048 --> 00:53:23.050 You have to be a, she has claimed that she got a her breasts removed as a at what age? 00:53:23.050 --> 00:53:24.032 But at what age? 00:53:24.032 --> 00:53:32.906 I I don't know exactly what age, but I know that she claimed she was a minor because a minor is such a spectrum it is well yeah, because they'll cut it off at 16. 00:53:32.906 --> 00:53:34.269 I'm thinking it was 16. 00:53:34.269 --> 00:53:36.775 Okay, so it just it was. 00:53:36.775 --> 00:53:37.757 What'd you say? 00:53:37.877 --> 00:53:55.971 I said it's usually 16, but it's not just like oh, I want surgery, you don't have to have a parent and guardian sign off on it, and then it's a whole process which conservatives never mention them the mental evaluation that we have to have, the physical evaluation and the the doctors coming in and psychiatrists coming in, therapists coming in saying are you sure this is what? 00:53:55.991 --> 00:53:57.293 you want to do Especially. 00:53:58.059 --> 00:54:00.786 That was like Kim Petras' surgeon was even like. 00:54:00.946 --> 00:54:05.768 I didn't want to operate on her until I talked to her and I was like, oh, she has this fierce track record of being trans. 00:54:05.768 --> 00:54:06.844 Like it's fine. 00:54:06.844 --> 00:54:09.047 And she's so happy right now, so like that's how it worked. 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.169 And I think the transitioners are nothing more than conservative propaganda that Blair and Buck have actually tried to amplify. 00:54:24.169 --> 00:54:24.748 I don't know, I just I will tell you I actually, uh, I'm gonna get them on the podcast, it's. 00:54:24.614 --> 00:54:27.865 I've been talking to some detransitioners that are actually positive, they're not always negative. 00:54:27.865 --> 00:54:28.152 There's a few out there. 00:54:28.152 --> 00:54:29.514 There's a group there is like and like. 00:54:29.514 --> 00:54:35.394 They are supportive but, people like Chloe Cole, who do come from like a very right link. 00:54:35.394 --> 00:54:36.338 She she's friends with Michael. 00:54:36.358 --> 00:54:36.500 Knowles. 00:54:36.500 --> 00:54:39.890 It feels like it's tell me how do they all know each other? 00:54:39.890 --> 00:54:43.129 So that's like that's the thing people are not noticing. 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.719 It's like funny how he was talking about how they were all together the night before in my debate. 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:48.765 It's like, oh so what are you guys doing? 00:54:48.765 --> 00:54:50.168 Like, what were you planning? 00:54:50.188 --> 00:54:50.951 What's the key. 00:54:50.991 --> 00:54:51.480 Yeah, what's the? 00:54:51.520 --> 00:54:51.661 key. 00:54:51.661 --> 00:55:15.489 So it just was very upsetting to me because I one I have never, ever before Jubilee, spoken about anything to do with detransitioners and so to have somebody weaponize their experience against me, who has been experiencing this like guys I'm talking like was a child and was expressing that I was a girl Like you, don't get to come at me because you had your bad experience. 00:55:15.489 --> 00:55:18.513 That has nothing to do with mine or yours. 00:55:18.513 --> 00:55:20.623 However, what was it? 00:55:20.623 --> 00:55:20.984 20? 00:55:20.984 --> 00:55:23.871 20 years, seven years, it's like that, I'm sorry. 00:55:23.871 --> 00:55:34.231 Like just because I was the one that got up there and had the rage, bait, click shit that you had got were able to use to pay your right there yeah, further your platform. 00:55:34.460 --> 00:55:37.149 Doesn't mean you're right on YouTube I'm done. 00:55:37.339 --> 00:55:38.706 It just was really frustrating. 00:55:39.040 --> 00:55:40.426 You're welcome,

Amala, by the way. 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.404 So it just was a lot they get paid for a few days? 00:55:44.565 --> 00:55:45.087 No for sure. 00:55:45.087 --> 00:55:47.819 I mean Blair White platform. 00:55:47.879 --> 00:55:49.266 Without us, they wouldn't have content. 00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.030 Fuck Angel and Blair's YouTube numbers are tanking. 00:55:53.030 --> 00:55:54.164 I noticed that too. 00:55:56.259 --> 00:55:57.021 Amala's is too her tiktok. 00:55:57.021 --> 00:55:57.904 She doesn't make content as much anymore. 00:55:57.924 --> 00:55:58.686 I couldn't even find her tiktok. 00:55:58.686 --> 00:56:00.300 I was going to go find it and it couldn't. 00:56:00.300 --> 00:56:01.342 I couldn't find anything. 00:56:01.342 --> 00:56:04.530 It all just looked like fan pages yeah, fan page girl. 00:56:04.550 --> 00:56:07.425 So, scarlet, you've been a little quiet over there. 00:56:07.425 --> 00:56:08.509 I have a question. 00:56:08.509 --> 00:56:17.453 Okay, how do you feel in hindsight, even though the michael noel situation was interesting, uh, would you do it again? 00:56:18.054 --> 00:56:23.472 no, no baby I would never I would never work for jubilee again. 00:56:23.472 --> 00:56:32.192 Um, I talked to like three or four producers about my experience and the runaround was just not very good for me like what the answer they? 00:56:32.232 --> 00:56:46.369 gave and also, just like the left's reaction, I was like, baby, you don't need it, then you don't need it like if this is how you're gonna more about that, because several what's been happening on the left, because I'm personally missing this, so what's yeah? 00:56:46.409 --> 00:56:49.245 well, harry sisson's getting canceled, and I might be getting canceled too. 00:56:49.445 --> 00:56:52.502 I don't know well, they can't counsel me because I'm in syndication. 00:56:53.524 --> 00:57:20.063 They basically were so mad and like saying that like I represented the trans community as like a fool, pretty much by going on Jubilee and like I we kind of talked about it a little bit how like there's so many different types of trans people and I feel like my type of trans was like different from either of yours, which isn't a bad thing, but like that's why I wanted to get into it, because I'm so tired of like, when people think of me and see me, they're like, oh, you're like Blair White and I get it all the time. 00:57:20.063 --> 00:57:21.547 Oh, do you know Blair White? 00:57:21.547 --> 00:57:22.250 Do you know Brandy? 00:57:22.250 --> 00:57:24.422 I'm like no, baby, I'm not like that at all. 00:57:24.422 --> 00:57:27.724 Like please, don't like make that connection. 00:57:27.724 --> 00:57:30.248 And so that was why I wanted to get into activism. 00:57:30.268 --> 00:57:49.174 Because I'm like I'm tired of going out in public and like people assuming I'm just some conservative, like trans person, because I fit their idea of beauty or whatever they're looking for, and that a lot of that has to do with

living in Ohio, like it's being possible in Ohio is like you're to go like all the girls any any way to get past. 00:57:49.174 --> 00:57:55.929 Well, we're going to go for it, because you are so stigmatized and so just like fucked around in public for no reason. 00:57:55.929 --> 00:58:01.852 My first job I had, um, I barely could even get it and somebody was like oh, you're a tranny huh. 00:58:01.852 --> 00:58:13.245 Like literally five seconds into work and I was like, um, they always clock it like I guess diva, like okay, shut the fuck up like employment I think is the hardest place to not get clocked. 00:58:13.286 --> 00:58:18.094 It's like fuck, I have to work with this person, or even like when kids come in and then they're like, hi, what are? 00:58:18.114 --> 00:58:19.283 you, I'm like ah. 00:58:19.283 --> 00:58:21.364 I get so nervous. 00:58:21.364 --> 00:58:35.202 I'll never forget I was in Applebee's in Long Beach and it was a bunch of kids having a birthday party right behind me, and so when I got up, all the kids went oh, she's tired, and before they started clocking tea I had to hurry up and get up out of there. 00:58:35.202 --> 00:58:37.123 I was like, let me go get up out of here. 00:58:37.123 --> 00:58:39.724 They're going to start clocking the tea Stop. 00:58:39.965 --> 00:58:40.505 No, they will. 00:58:40.505 --> 00:58:41.346 They're the first ones. 00:58:41.346 --> 00:58:42.547 And it's ruthless. 00:58:42.547 --> 00:58:46.408 It's like what Worst than any conservative I've ever met in my life. 00:58:47.108 --> 00:58:54.292 I'm like the day before my FFS thought I was looking so picky. 00:58:54.292 --> 00:58:55.432 I had heels on. 00:58:55.432 --> 00:58:57.293 I was like we're about to get searched tomorrow. 00:58:57.293 --> 00:59:00.194 Like, yes, got me, got me so good. 00:59:00.194 --> 00:59:01.295 I'm so shocked. 00:59:01.295 --> 00:59:04.677 The mom was fierce, though she was like Timmy, shut up girl Like be quiet. 00:59:05.297 --> 00:59:06.277 Oh my gosh. 00:59:06.277 --> 00:59:18.924 So because I know we're going to wrap up things, so've been open about it on your Instagram. 00:59:18.944 --> 00:59:20.588 Talk to us about what's going on and how people can support you. 00:59:20.588 --> 00:59:21.449 Yeah, so I lived in Ohio. 00:59:21.449 --> 00:59:36.243 I was from Ohio and my chosen family moved down to LA a couple years back and I had a housing crisis two of them actually in Ohio and I was just sleeping from friends to friends, trying to make it work and going to my job, and nothing was really working out for me. 00:59:36.243 --> 00:59:39.956 So I texted my mom and I was just like sleeping from friends to friends, like trying to make it work and like going to my job, and it just nothing was really like working out for me. 00:59:39.956 --> 00:59:41.882 So I texted my mom and I was like what do I do? 00:59:41.882 --> 00:59:43.306 And she was like you can come live with us. 00:59:43.306 --> 00:59:46.586 So I was supposed to come down here eventually, but I'm just here so early. 00:59:47.489 --> 00:59:55.851 And the point of like, when I was homeless, I racked up huge amounts of debt because I was trying to stay in Ohio and like keep my job. 00:59:55.851 --> 01:00:01.201 I had a really, really good job. 01:00:01.201 --> 01:00:02.043 It was like the best job I've ever had. 01:00:02.043 --> 01:00:03.750 It was practically salaried, like I'd never gotten an opportunity like that before. 01:00:03.750 --> 01:00:07.344 And then, you know, I moved here and like I could not get anything. 01:00:07.344 --> 01:00:08.166 I'm like. 01:00:08.166 --> 01:00:11.581 I've worked for several companies and I was like, can I just have a referral? 01:00:11.581 --> 01:00:12.443 Like whatever. 01:00:12.443 --> 01:00:13.806 I couldn't get anything. 01:00:13.806 --> 01:00:19.907 And so I've like been dabbling with, like hustling and just like trying to find any way to get anything. 01:00:19.907 --> 01:00:26.480 Um, and it lucked out that one of my old managers finally made a call for me and she was like girl, like come back and work for this company. 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:28.706 And so I finally got something that works. 01:00:29.407 --> 01:00:34.627 And then before that I did have a job, but like they cut my hours to five hours a week and I was driving. 01:00:34.627 --> 01:00:36.090 It was like what'd you say? 01:00:36.090 --> 01:00:36.992 I said what the fuck? 01:00:36.992 --> 01:00:49.744 Yeah, and so it was like a part-time job and it was good at first and I was driving like an hour to get to work and like I serviced several stores and it was a great place to work, like I really loved it. 01:00:49.744 --> 01:00:53.108 But they just like couldn't keep clients an hour. 01:00:53.108 --> 01:00:54.350 Like that's literally my gas. 01:00:54.350 --> 01:00:55.031 You know what I? 01:00:55.071 --> 01:00:57.654 mean yeah, and you put up a GoFundMe. 01:00:57.754 --> 01:00:58.255 Yeah, I do. 01:00:58.539 --> 01:00:59.946 It's on your IG, right? 01:00:59.946 --> 01:01:07.353 So y'all, if you're on IG, please go to Scarlett's IG page and donate to her GoFundMe, please. 01:01:07.353 --> 01:01:24.663 Helping a trans person is the greatest gift that you can give anyone, and so we definitely want you to become housed and we definitely want you safe and so y'all, anybody that's watching this, please like, go and donate to Scarlett like she's a wonderful also sugar baby available. 01:01:24.702 --> 01:01:25.907 Link in bio for Scarlett. 01:01:25.907 --> 01:01:27.270 You know Shane as well. 01:01:27.270 --> 01:01:28.851 You want to send me money? 01:01:28.851 --> 01:01:29.940 Venmo's in bio. 01:01:29.940 --> 01:01:33.245 No, I did get offered $5,000 this week why you didn't take it. 01:01:33.245 --> 01:01:37.956 We live in listen, I'll tell you this we're in California $5,000 this week why you didn't take it. 01:01:37.956 --> 01:01:38.198 We live in. 01:01:38.198 --> 01:01:39.765 Listen, I'll tell you this.

01:01:39.765 --> 01:01:40.754 We're in California. 01:01:40.754 --> 01:01:42.123 My wife said to take it. 01:01:42.123 --> 01:01:44.143 I might, who knows, we'll find out. 01:01:44.143 --> 01:01:45.308 This is why I love his wife. 01:01:45.399 --> 01:01:48.083 Shout out to Nicole Hi, nicole, sweetie, how are you? 01:01:48.083 --> 01:01:55.889 Hey, baby, I always say this to Shay she's the more reasonable one, she's the more reasonable one. 01:01:55.909 --> 01:01:56.558 She's the more reasonable one. 01:01:56.558 --> 01:01:58.846 What did you say earlier off set about that kiss? 01:02:00.129 --> 01:02:05.070 Oh yeah, so me and Shay were coming up with a skit, and Nicole already knows it. 01:02:05.070 --> 01:02:14.342 I'm going to tell my man about it because I have a partner too, and so my man, my man, my man, my man. 01:02:14.342 --> 01:02:23.090 And so Shay, I think, kissed me on the jaw and I was just like, oh my God, I just started laughing and kicking. 01:02:23.090 --> 01:02:26.114 I was like, oh my God, I see why Nicole has been around for 20 years. 01:02:26.114 --> 01:02:32.948 I see exactly why, In my head, we're like besties and so I'm just like oh. 01:02:33.129 --> 01:02:34.454 I got a kiss from my best friend. 01:02:34.515 --> 01:02:35.480 It was so nice and so kind. 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:36.965 You felt the bass in that kiss, don't you? 01:02:37.027 --> 01:02:38.021 Yeah, I was just like. 01:02:38.021 --> 01:02:45.993 Shay is such a hot boy, I understand why the girls crave him and all the things, or whatever. 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.809 When I get enough followers, more stories will be told, but I just can't tell it yet. 01:02:49.809 --> 01:02:50.291 Okay. 01:02:52.100 --> 01:02:54.607 So are we winding down Solomon? 01:02:54.607 --> 01:02:55.870 I think we are, Are we? 01:02:55.890 --> 01:02:56.011 done. 01:02:56.011 --> 01:02:58.961 So are we winding down? 01:02:58.961 --> 01:02:59.202 Uh solomon? 01:02:59.202 --> 01:02:59.563 I think we are. 01:02:59.563 --> 01:03:00.565 I think we're done, I think yeah. 01:03:00.565 --> 01:03:02.331 There's one more thing I want to ask before we go to uh stassi. 01:03:02.331 --> 01:03:07.925 I want to ask you first um, what advice, because I'm sure jubilee is going to probably cast maybe somebody else. 01:03:07.925 --> 01:03:15.090 Uh, what advice would you give that new queer person that's never debated before, so they can go in there and kick ass? 01:03:15.090 --> 01:03:22.663 What would you tell them to to do for jubilee, especially if they're going to face somebody like michael knolls, because we know how the girls like to tussle over there. 01:03:22.683 --> 01:03:29.261 So yeah, um, I would just say, like, don't go in with any expectations. 01:03:29.261 --> 01:03:36.192 I think the way that you and I walked in was very like, great, like not everybody can be blossom like. 01:03:36.251 --> 01:03:38.494 That's true, that like stance like I. 01:03:38.754 --> 01:03:39.701 I don't like I. 01:03:39.701 --> 01:03:50.639 I have a very different delivery than you, yes, a very different delivery than you, and I think it's important to spread awareness to that diversity among trans women and all trans people. 01:03:50.639 --> 01:04:00.895 Um, but just I, I mean be prepared to like it's easy, like the hate is a lot, and I am open to working with Jubilee. 01:04:00.895 --> 01:04:11.847 So I don't have anything planned as of yet, but I don't know how open I am to going back and doing like a debate of that type with, like somebody like Michael Knowles ever again. 01:04:11.888 --> 01:04:19.509 That was a lot, yeah, so absolutely, I think, with me, cause this is something else that came up in all my videos, or whatnot like. 01:04:19.509 --> 01:04:21.577 Why does jubilee keep bringing me back? 01:04:21.577 --> 01:04:24.971 A lot of y'all in the comments in our video many people. 01:04:24.971 --> 01:04:27.118 They were like raise your hands if you want to vote. 01:04:27.118 --> 01:04:28.020 Blossom out of jubilee. 01:04:28.020 --> 01:04:28.782 They were over. 01:04:28.782 --> 01:04:30.587 That video got almost a hundred. 01:04:30.647 --> 01:04:44.679 It almost got a hundred thousand likes yeah, and so here's the thing I love it that they bring me back, because what it is is I give a defense to the bullshit that these conservatives try to bring at me. 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:49.760 It's like you gotta have somebody on the office and the defense in order for it to be a good debate. 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:56.105 So I'm the missing piece and I think that's why I was on pierce and, by the way, scarlet was supposed to be on pier with me. 01:04:56.547 --> 01:04:57.681 But they dropped. 01:04:57.822 --> 01:05:04.391 for some reason, they dropped her and I wanted to also make sure that I mentioned that I was very pissed but I felt like I handled it very well. 01:05:04.391 --> 01:05:06.645 You know, riley can kick rocks. 01:05:06.645 --> 01:05:09.540 She's mad about winning fifth place with a trans woman. 01:05:09.560 --> 01:05:13.405 She's hooping and hollering crying, four other cis women placed ahead of her. 01:05:13.405 --> 01:05:14.808 Yeah, exactly, very clear. 01:05:14.868 --> 01:05:36.111 But but I, I definitely will go back on jubilee because it's attracting more attention from other people, because here's, looked at, our michael noel's video reached out to you and I, and then the project that I'm doing that's coming out, because at the taping, at the time of taping this, it'll be out tomorrow, so and so it's with a prominent celebrity. 01:05:36.111 --> 01:05:55.408 Um, we debated, but they're watching stuff like this and so for me, jubilee is pushing me more into mainstream, absolutely and I and I love that and the thing is it's kind of like jubilee has the power to be a platform where debaters who just love debating can come together. 01:05:55.951 --> 01:06:12.078 I feel like they have the capacity and the power to be more truly in the middle,

like have the conservative sponsors come in, do their thing, the liberal ones come in and do their thing, because with Sam Seder coming in, the comment section shifted completely. 01:06:12.219 --> 01:06:13.605 Well, the progressive episode. 01:06:13.605 --> 01:06:15.115 I was in too, we kicked ass. 01:06:15.062 --> 01:06:16.007 We fucking kicked ass. 01:06:15.953 --> 01:06:16.561 And I think this is where I was in too. 01:06:16.509 --> 01:06:20.103 We kicked ass, we fucking kicked ass, and I think this is where I was trying to communicate this with you. 01:06:20.103 --> 01:06:24.485 I think Jubilee has a swing audience where the pendulum can swing their way. 01:06:24.565 --> 01:06:26.907 I think us going on there is affecting it. 01:06:26.907 --> 01:06:38.972 Yeah, and I do think conservatives tend to put a little bit more resources into them and I think that's what we're picking up on yeah, Because if the left was a little bit more supportive, because, again, like we're problematic with a purpose, that's. 01:06:38.972 --> 01:06:41.326 That's the famous quote that I said. 01:06:41.385 --> 01:06:51.164 By the way, you know, make sure, problematic with a purpose, problematic with a purpose and going into that space, I agree with you too, because you know in that progressive episode that I just did. 01:06:51.164 --> 01:07:00.847 You see, it's so funny that it's like these cis men and they're just like rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, like fucking dogs on each other, and then you just go hey, shane, like, hey Drake, I hear you like him young. 01:07:00.847 --> 01:07:03.367 Anyways, I had to. 01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:17.471 It felt like that moment for me because I think that was in part two no, no no, you have to watch part two because that's really I was very channeling Kendrick in that like you can even see me in part one where I'm kind of just like because I'm reading the room the whole time. 01:07:17.511 --> 01:07:34.824 I wanted you to speak more in part one but I did it on purpose because a a lot of the gentlemen I've had the Ben Shapiro like fame, let's be real like I got a lot of clout of that and there were some new debaters in there and I'm not one like I don't need to be that influencer that's on every single thing. 01:07:34.824 --> 01:07:39.693 Like people want to put me on 100, but I also like to see all boats rise, so I like to see other people come in. 01:07:39.693 --> 01:07:48.860 And oliver came in and I heard some of the stuff he was saying and I was like you know what I would actually might prefer a cis man saying this, because it could be more impactful than a trans man. 01:07:48.860 --> 01:07:54.210 Because people did say in the comments, like I thought shane was a woman, oh, ha ha ha, 25 versus 24. 01:07:54.210 --> 01:08:00.208 And they kept trying to like read me on on, uh, even like body stuff, and they were like, oh, I would never want his body. 01:08:00.208 --> 01:08:01.319 First of all, you couldn't have it. 01:08:01.339 --> 01:08:02.101 Yeah, and I. 01:08:02.101 --> 01:08:03.405 Here's the thing I did get on. 01:08:03.405 --> 01:08:04.387 I love my bestie. 01:08:04.387 --> 01:08:17.233 I did get on him because I was just like you know, two moments can be running concurrently with each other, yeah, and the thing is because of what's happening with the trans community don't ever, ever, silence your voice to give somebody else that space. 01:08:17.233 --> 01:08:19.849 I think both of y'all should have been able to say what you need to say. 01:08:19.849 --> 01:08:21.971 Shane has a lot. 01:08:21.971 --> 01:08:28.048 Shane just has a great heart and great spirit, but the thing is they need to hear it from a trans. 01:08:28.048 --> 01:08:33.226 I know they need that trans masculine voice and you are the best. 01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:34.224 Well, I read them in the room. 01:08:34.224 --> 01:08:34.887 In my opinion, you are the best. 01:08:34.887 --> 01:08:35.310 Well, I read him. 01:08:35.310 --> 01:08:37.582 In my opinion, you are definitely I read him in the room represents. 01:08:37.622 --> 01:08:47.170 You are the best representation and I know that you can always do it and I just I told them this more in privately, like don't you ever silence your voice? 01:08:47.170 --> 01:08:49.784 I know you want to give up the space I never want to take up too much space. 01:08:49.805 --> 01:08:51.409 You know what I mean, because men can do that. 01:08:51.450 --> 01:08:59.667 You know what I mean white so trans, we get that, but in this moment in time, under this administration, you do not know I'm ready to kick ass. 01:08:59.728 --> 01:09:01.913 I brought you not have to give up your space. 01:09:01.913 --> 01:09:04.387 Yeah, particularly to a cis man. 01:09:04.387 --> 01:09:06.695 Yeah, yeah, that I can understand. 01:09:06.695 --> 01:09:10.085 If it was another trans person, that okay, I understand that. 01:09:10.085 --> 01:09:14.121 Yeah, but to a cis man, no, you're gonna have more moments than ben shapiro. 01:09:14.121 --> 01:09:15.887 I've had so many moments. 01:09:15.887 --> 01:09:17.322 I've done the cnn town hall. 01:09:17.322 --> 01:09:18.003 I had a moment. 01:09:18.003 --> 01:09:19.627 Caitlyn jenner was a moment. 01:09:19.627 --> 01:09:29.345 Uh, this, this pierce morgan, the project, I did like I'm and this is what I'm trying to tell you you're not gonna stay on just one moment no I know that it's to both of y'all too. 01:09:29.646 --> 01:09:36.909 We're gonna have so many more moments, so go out there, share your voice, show your beauty, your heart, be yourself. 01:09:36.949 --> 01:09:53.105 Let's all be expressive well, I want to say one more thing, blossom, because just to add to the point, with oliver and I will say this is a trans man on set, both sides, even though there was a fight and everything and all of the things that happened and all the mess, please watch it both, both parts, and try to yeah it's out now. 01:09:53.164 --> 01:09:53.385 Both.

01:09:53.385 --> 01:09:55.911 Both parts are out now so you can watch the fight. 01:09:55.911 --> 01:09:56.653 You can see everything. 01:09:56.653 --> 01:09:57.985 You can watch my read. 01:09:57.985 --> 01:10:05.405 You'll see me like kind of in the background, just kind of sitting there like a mob boss, watching these guys say the most problematic shit and just making faces at them. 01:10:07.244 --> 01:10:22.384 In that episode I was able to point out the hypocrisy that a lot of these traditional men are not even fulfilling the promises that they're making traditional women, like if you've made an agreement as a man, hey, I want you to be traditional, you stay home, you raise the kids, I take care of the finances. 01:10:22.384 --> 01:10:30.908 And the point that they were making was like well, if the finances aren't doing so, well, actually, uh, you know what she needs to step up. 01:10:30.908 --> 01:10:41.288 So it creates a space for a lack of accountability for men and to to me, as I've gotten deeper and deeper into this red pill you know content to learn how it works. 01:10:41.288 --> 01:10:44.082 I'm trying to deconstruct it and help guide these guys. 01:10:44.082 --> 01:10:46.327 In the same way, hasan is trying to bring them back. 01:10:46.327 --> 01:10:48.612 Um, I've really learned. 01:10:48.673 --> 01:10:49.601 Like what was that? 01:10:49.601 --> 01:10:54.045 There's a quote from white lotus, don't mean to quote it, but like it was really recent. 01:10:54.045 --> 01:11:06.186 It's like these men are fighting for the rights to be babies, because the only person on this planet who can go and do things and not be accountable and be accepted is babies. 01:11:06.186 --> 01:11:30.621 So it's like you can't sit there and say I want to be a man, I want to step up, I want to be a leader and all this bravado in this episode and then turn around and be like, actually, if I'm not going to be a leader and I'm not paying her bills, I still own her, she's prop and like they talked about women like property, like you can see me just slap my face so many times because it's like that's not how relationships work, like with one thing I've ever learned as a man because you said the gender roles break down. 01:11:31.021 --> 01:11:33.384 You cannot control women, you're right. 01:11:33.404 --> 01:11:34.704 You do not control. 01:11:34.704 --> 01:11:35.485 If anything. 01:11:35.485 --> 01:11:45.436 My wife shows up with me because she makes a choice, because I make choices that she likes the choices I make as a man and she respects those choices. 01:11:45.436 --> 01:11:47.664 I don't own her. 01:11:47.664 --> 01:11:50.771 Even 20 years being with her, she doesn't own me. 01:11:50.771 --> 01:11:56.052 We are equal human beings and that's why we work together in the way that we do. 01:11:58.222 --> 01:11:59.023 And I don't lie to her. 01:11:59.143 --> 01:12:09.001 don't you know like lasted, yeah, like you tells you something you can't lie to women, you can't do these things, you can't create this violence for women and then sit there and turn around and go. 01:12:09.001 --> 01:12:10.443 Why are we lonely? 01:12:10.443 --> 01:12:13.068 Because your guys are being assholes. 01:12:13.068 --> 01:12:16.855 Like it's not that hard to be kind to women. 01:12:16.855 --> 01:12:24.548 It's trans women, it's all the same fucking thing, like when people try to say what's the identity of women? 01:12:24.548 --> 01:12:25.395 What is a woman? 01:12:25.395 --> 01:12:31.450 First of all, we never asked what a man is, clearly, and they always try to skate that question because they don't want to define what a man is. 01:12:31.450 --> 01:12:37.341 They want to again push it back on a woman. 01:12:37.360 --> 01:12:39.726 To me, in my own personal opinion, um, because I've been around trans women, cis women. 01:12:39.726 --> 01:12:41.429 Women have an energy to them. 01:12:41.429 --> 01:12:43.573 Men have an energy to them. 01:12:43.573 --> 01:12:51.882 It's just a frequency that comes off and then non-binary people can be in the middle of that frequency in certain spectrums. 01:12:51.882 --> 01:12:53.384 That's how I see things. 01:12:53.384 --> 01:12:57.590 Not everybody has to see it that way too, and I totally respect if you can't see how I see things. 01:12:57.590 --> 01:13:01.376 But I can just like blossom, you give feminine. 01:13:01.376 --> 01:13:02.002 You know what I mean. 01:13:02.002 --> 01:13:04.353 You're not giving truck driver, you know what I mean. 01:13:04.353 --> 01:13:09.347 Like you're giving exactly you know, and it's like shit. 01:13:09.407 --> 01:13:16.932 I can look at a gay man and be like I could top you because you've really femme, because I'm very masked, because I'm on the other side of that spectrum. 01:13:16.932 --> 01:13:28.869 I'm attracted to the yin and yang of that, but it's like I think it's really important for men to have these conversations and I think to your point about letting Oliver have that moment. 01:13:28.869 --> 01:13:33.351 I was OK with it and I'm still OK with it because of the brotherhood that I've experienced on that set. 01:13:33.351 --> 01:13:37.530 Those guys were like fans of me. 01:13:37.530 --> 01:13:37.730 They're. 01:13:37.730 --> 01:13:39.747 They love that I took ben shapiro down. 01:13:39.747 --> 01:13:42.317 Uh, they got excited when they saw me. 01:13:42.317 --> 01:13:43.802 They're like oh shit, shane's here. 01:13:43.802 --> 01:13:46.132 One of the guys, the, the gay guy. 01:13:46.132 --> 01:13:50.329 That was like I'm traditional on the red side, I forget his name I forget his name the bald one. 01:13:50.550 --> 01:13:58.248 He came over in the dressing room and he was like listen, I know we're not on the same side, but I'm such a fan of yours so it's like there was brotherhood. 01:13:58.248 --> 01:14:10.702 And, as a trans man, like we don't see that we don't see trans men genuinely put into male spaces and dabbed up and respected, and I'm

willing to go into those spaces. 01:14:10.702 --> 01:14:23.005 I'll kick your ass at basketball, I'll kick your ass at golf, I'll race you at mario kart, I'll do all that dirt bike bullshit and know, just give me the opportunity to show up and have trans masculine voices in those spaces. 01:14:23.005 --> 01:14:25.972 And I do appreciate how those guys treated me on set. 01:14:25.972 --> 01:14:31.421 And one more thing, scarlett, because we didn't pass it to you what would your advice be for folks on Jubilee? 01:14:31.801 --> 01:14:37.084 Yeah, just to stay calm as possible and kind of know I mean, you can't really know what you're going to go into. 01:14:37.084 --> 01:14:52.833 So I kind of wish I would have watched some more conservatives, like before I went to kind of see what their talking points were going to be, because, like I didn't really know where it was going to be and then it was the exact opposite. 01:14:52.853 --> 01:14:59.958 So I was like, oh well, here we go, but yeah, just being calm and not even really addressing like the hate. 01:14:59.958 --> 01:15:00.618 Afterwards. 01:15:00.618 --> 01:15:03.548 Like there were some comments that I was like, girl, this is making me laugh. 01:15:03.548 --> 01:15:06.985 People kept saying did you edit your Adam's apple out of your pictures? 01:15:06.985 --> 01:15:11.921 And I was like huh, I was like no baby. 01:15:12.722 --> 01:15:14.884 Girl, you were flawless when you did this. 01:15:15.045 --> 01:15:17.527 I was like Listen, they call me fat, but never ugly. 01:15:17.648 --> 01:15:20.471 They told me I looked like Ricky Lake. 01:15:20.471 --> 01:15:23.314 I said, bitch, fuck you. 01:15:23.394 --> 01:15:25.056 I did, guys, I said I love her. 01:15:27.260 --> 01:15:28.520 I was like but Ricky Lake is the bomb, she's my hairspray queen. 01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:31.405 I'm like that's a half of it and you think I look like a girl. 01:15:31.405 --> 01:15:38.011 Sometimes those comments do read and I'm like, damn, that was good. 01:15:38.011 --> 01:15:40.124 I know Somebody also commented Optimus Prime and that got me going. 01:15:40.124 --> 01:15:41.842 You know that song, Optimus Prime. 01:15:42.264 --> 01:15:43.167 It just killed me. 01:15:43.167 --> 01:15:44.130 It was really funny. 01:15:46.275 --> 01:15:49.662 So, ladies and gents, we have run out of time. 01:15:49.662 --> 01:15:54.150 I want to thank both of y'all so much for coming on the podcast. 01:15:54.150 --> 01:15:55.703 We both appreciate you so much. 01:15:55.703 --> 01:15:56.831 Thank y'all so much for coming on the podcast. 01:15:56.831 --> 01:15:57.456 We both appreciate you so much. 01:15:57.456 --> 01:16:05.466 Thank y'all so much for taking your time to come spend it here at the transparency podcast show, which, by the way, please subscribe to our channel if you have not already. 01:16:05.466 --> 01:16:08.502 Make sure you hit the like button down below, so that way you know. 01:16:08.502 --> 01:16:10.047 I'm sorry, it's a subscribe button. 01:16:10.047 --> 01:16:11.952 Make sure you hit the like button too. 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:12.240 Hit it all. 01:16:12.240 --> 01:16:12.682 Hit the like button. 01:16:12.682 --> 01:16:13.163 We need monetization. 01:16:13.163 --> 01:16:14.006 Yeah, hit the like button. 01:16:14.025 --> 01:16:14.267 Hit it all. 01:16:14.287 --> 01:16:16.212 Hit the like button we need monetization more. 01:16:16.273 --> 01:16:17.697 okay, hit it, even if you hate us. 01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:20.548 The comments are going to be flooded with hate you get paid either way. 01:16:20.548 --> 01:16:26.369 Make sure you hit the subscribe button down below, so that way you'll know when me and Shane are on the air. 01:16:26.369 --> 01:16:30.891 And don't forget to take a little time to enjoy the Transparency Podcast Show. 01:16:30.891 --> 01:16:31.119 We.