บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ What is Wrong with Being Sexual?

talk about that more if we want. 75 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:03.639 And so I started to realize that in my past lives, 76 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:07.159 I was a priestess, so I was doing tontric work 77 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.439 with people. And then I started teaching these workshops on 78 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.520 how to do sacred spot massage, which is something that 79 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.839 you've already mentioned we're going to be talking about. And 80 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.519 then when I turned fifty eight, I said, you know, 81 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.720 this Tontraus stuff is really so much more of my 82 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.279 life purpose than being a you know, I'm a good therabiz, 83 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.920 I'm a good coach, but I know that that's really 84 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.480 why I'm here is to start to spread the word 85 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:37.680 more about tntra And so I said, well, I'm either 86 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:42.240 gonna do it or I'm not going to And I said, yes, 87 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.040 so here we are. I love it. 88 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.519 And because when we were first talking, you were also 89 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:51.600 talking about being so comfortable in your body, and I 90 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:52.959 remember having, you. 91 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:53.600 Know that similar. 92 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.519 I had grown up also in a household where my 93 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:59.399 mother was really comfortable with her body, but not comfortable sexually. 94 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:00.399 So and. 95 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.480 And they're totally different things, right, So walking my mother 96 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.279 walking around and opening the door half naked was never 97 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.639 an issue. You know, I'd be totally doing this as 98 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.160 she was there with her you know, little t shirt 99 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.920 and undors, the elevator door opened and people and I 100 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.399 was like, oh my god, I want to die now, 101 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:22.120 right twelve years old of course, but sexually she wasn't comfortable, 102 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.920 and so I was like you a very sexual being 103 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.199 at a very young age without any languaging around it 104 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:36.199 and no positive support around you know, coming out sexually. 105 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.480 So like for me, this I was just I think 106 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.040 rampant probably when I was young, not understanding what this 107 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.600 body is and having so many exquisite experiences and then 108 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.720 taking the time to become more conscious about it. And 109 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:51.839 I want to bring in the piece around like the 110 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:56.800 you know, stripping and so on, and the connotations that 111 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.399 people in the labels that people just throw onto what 112 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.759 it means to be a stripper, right, like and how 113 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.639 it's offen slashed, so take the floor. 114 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.199 Okay, So yes, I mean you might a lot of 115 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.959 people out there listening might know that the stereotypes are right, 116 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.639 you are you've got to be a single mother, which 117 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:19.600 I was actually, but also you must be a drug 118 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:25.040 addict if you're you know, being a stripper and promiscuous, 119 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:30.519 that for sure, and desperate, right, I wasn't desperate. I 120 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.360 wasn't really any of those things except for a single mother. 121 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:42.319 And so I also met other professionals like me who 122 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:45.199 were there for similar reasons. I used to work with 123 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:50.040 a nurse that did some dancing at night. Right, there's 124 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.839 so much stigma, so much shame. I even heard through 125 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.560 the grape vine at one point that people that you know, 126 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.879 I went to school with whever, like, oh you know, 127 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:02.720 did you hear about that, Maria Marloney, you became a stripper, Like, oh, well, 128 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.759 such a waste, you know, No, actually, you have no 129 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.079 idea how much power I had as a dancer. 130 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.360 Well, there's so much empowerment, and I think, you know, 131 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.079 dare I say every woman should try stripping at least once, 132 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.759 whether even if it's in her living room with her 133 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:26.120 guy or for herself around friends, just as a liberation, 134 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.920 or learned sensual dance just to get into the body 135 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:34.600 a little bit more, to feel comfortable in her own sexuality. 136 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:40.839 Who absolutely, And I know that that's a thing that typically, 137 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.079 you know, if someone is a woman, they have a 138 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:47.439 male partner, if they're heterosexual, the man. We really enjoy that, 139 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:49.560 and some men will mention it. And I've heard many 140 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.000 times from women like, oh my gosh, I can't even 141 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:55.759 imagine myself doing that, you know. And so as I 142 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.639 was getting ready to try my hand at dancing, I 143 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.199 went to one of those like amateur nights. 144 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.759 Right, So I just they just let me get up. 145 00:08:06.639 -->

00:08:10.439 On the stage. And friends that I was telling that 146 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.160 I was about to do this were saying, well, have 147 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.360 you practiced, And I said, no, practiced. If I practiced, 148 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.360 I'll get nervous. But so I just went up and 149 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.439 did it. And what I learned in that is that 150 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:29.079 I already knew how to be sexy. I already knew 151 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.920 how to move my body in a way that was natural, 152 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:34.240 that would be sexy. And so I think that's a 153 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.960 really key point for women that are listening out there 154 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.879 is like, you know, the truth is like if I 155 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:41.679 go out on the dance alort, I'm not even a 156 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:44.279 good dancer. But you don't have to be a good 157 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.960 dancer to like do a strip tease. 158 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:51.440 Even just being in your's it's being in your body, 159 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.759 being constable. It is your body first and foremost, because 160 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.159 it's true, I've seen women and meant for that matter, 161 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:03.600 but just you know, very very slowly not even really 162 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:06.200 be doing much right, but you can just feel the 163 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:11.360 whole embodiment of their energy as they move, and that's 164 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.559 so powerful. And that's and that to me is that 165 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.399 if you cannot do that, then the. 166 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:17.919 Question becomes why. 167 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.600 It's like what is going on for you that you 168 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:26.720 know you're not able to really fully express yourself? Which 169 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.440 you had this question in or this line in your 170 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.080 in your book, and it says what is wrong with 171 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.639 being sexual? And I love that because what is wrong 172 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:38.600 with being sexual? 173 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:44.360 You know, it's we've been told so many things about it, right, 174 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.960 especially as women. So there's totally different rules for males 175 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:53.720 or females. But if you're a female and you're sexual, 176 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.919 then the stereotypes are well, then you're you're over sexed, right, 177 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:04.000 people is to use that word promiscuous, right, Like, so 178 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.600 if a woman has a lot of partners, it's called promiscuous, 179 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:10.240 but if a man does, it's like cheered on and 180 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.480 told like, oh, they have a lot of experience, isn't 181 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:16.440 that great?

Right, So there's that that double standard. But yeah, 182 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.399 so much shame, like and then you know, if we 183 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.360 start to get into religion, basically we're gonna die and 184 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:27.679 go to hell. That's what's wrong, you know, right, And that's. 185 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.000 Such an extreme and I do feel like it lives 186 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:30.879 in our bodies somewhere. 187 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:32.440 I mean, I was never brought up religious. 188 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.399 My father's Jewish, my mother was Protestant, and I didn't 189 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.440 grow up with religion, although my grandmother took me to 190 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:42.679 church a couple of times, and I remember the feeling 191 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.039 of like, you know, those words, those wrathful words of 192 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.919 you're going to hell and these are the these are 193 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.960 the reasons you're as like. 194 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:52.039 I'm terrified. 195 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.919 I'm not sure around sex, but I did feel, I know, 196 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.320 I felt like a lot of shame around the out 197 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.559 of sexuality that I felt even as a young girl 198 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:06.200 and then growing up and then even in my marriage. 199 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.159 I remember I was like super sexual, super sensual, and 200 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:14.159 feeling like, oh, I need to dumb this down, I 201 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:18.799 need to mute this energy. This is not welcome even 202 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.679 in relationship, and that I think hits a lot of people. 203 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.279 It hits both men on their side really hard, and 204 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.440 it hits women as well. 205 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.840 Absolutely, yeah, I mean there is. And that's one of 206 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:34.600 the things that I was dealing with when I say 207 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.440 I was doing sacred work. At the strip club, men 208 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:42.200 would shame themselves by, for example, saying like when they 209 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.399 would sit down at the stage to come up to 210 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:49.600 see a dancer, they call that pervert room. So you know, oh, 211 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:53.720 he obviously must be a pervert if he's heterosexual and 212 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.279 he's interested in seeing a woman with her clothes off, 213 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.879 Like there couldn't be anything more normal. 214 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:04.559 Actually, yeah, And you even bring up, you know, and 215 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:11.360 you even bring up that it's it's an alternative to cheating, right, 216 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.559 that it's you know that it's an outlet for and 217 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:19.000 I know various men that you know are in long 218 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.879 term relationships that have no desire to cheat on their 219 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:25.759 on their partners and are very sexually repressed. 220 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:32.519 Absolutely. I actually had a customer who was there at 221 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.679 the strip club. He was in a very happy marriage. 222 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.679 His wife was extremely ill. I don't think, he said, 223 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.559 but I feel like she probably had cancer and she 224 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.080 wasn't able to be sexual with him for a period 225 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.120 of time. So he started coming into the strip club 226 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.799 and so he was getting some of his erotic needs 227 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:57.200 met through doing that. And we had you know, I mean, 228 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.080 he was he was a lovely gentleman. We had a 229 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.799 lot of fun. It was purely just fun. It wasn't 230 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.919 like we were doing anything close to having sex. And like, 231 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:10.519 that's a great alternative that he figured out for himself. 232 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:14.360 Yeah, because I think we underestimate how powerful and how 233 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.559 important sexual energy is in our life, and especially when 234 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:21.159 we're going through things that are very difficult, you know, 235 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:27.559 around death or just or death if I say death, illness, separation, 236 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:31.200 whatever it is that's going on, and how deeply that 237 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.200 impacts self worth, the need to be touched, the need 238 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:40.240 to seen, like and just very physical needs and desires. 239 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.519 Yeah, so this guy, you know, instead of burdening his 240 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.559 wife was saying like, hey, I know you're you know, 241 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.120 probably going through cancer treatments right now. Could you just 242 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.799 you know, give me a hand job? You know, like 243 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:59.159 that'd be so inappropriate, right, But so instead of burdening 244 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:03.320 her with his needs, he got them taking care of 245 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:06.440 in other ways. And yes, it was probably a good 246 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:11.240 outlet for him so that he could deal with some 247 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.200 of the emotions coming up around his wife's owns. 248 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:17.679 Yeah, because we think it's one or the other, that 249 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.440 it's exclusive. Oh, this person's going through an illness, I 250 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.879 must be there for them ten thousand percent in a 251 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.600 way that excludes my own needs and my own desires. 252

00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.120 And the truth is is that they're not mutually exclusive. 253 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.200 They're happening all at the same time. It's a very 254 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.840 you know, full, confusing, overwhelming. 255 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.159 Experience I imagine for most people. 256 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:42.200 And right, it's it's how do you deal with one 257 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.240 and the other? And I think there's there's something really 258 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.120 beautiful about being able to go and express or be 259 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:51.399 feel witnessed and seen. And like you said, is it 260 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.600 bad to go and look at Like, what's wrong with 261 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:56.039 going and seeing a bunch of beautiful naked women? 262 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.120 Right? Exactly, absolutely nothing. And you know a lot of 263 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.320 the guys there that was an unusual situation. But the 264 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.240 majority of the guys there were either single or they 265 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:12.279 were partnered, but they weren't getting their needs met at home. 266 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:17.200 We know that sadly, there are so many women that 267 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:21.639 have issues with their own sexual expression, that lose interest 268 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.960 in sex for various reasons, right for their because their 269 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.080 own trauma, because the relationship's not going well. There could 270 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.279 be many reasons. But there's so many guys out there 271 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.919 who are so lonely and in need to get some 272 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.080 of these needs met. Just to even sit and have 273 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.120 a real conversation face to face with a woman where 274 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.639 I am I was just like totally focusing on them 275 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.639 for a period of time, let alone the lap dance 276 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:55.639 like that was a gift. And again, yes, what is 277 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:59.080 wrong with the fact that these guys did that to 278 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.320 get some of their own It's meant because it's not 279 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:05.240 their fault that their wife's not interested in having sex 280 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:08.759 with them, but it's still the responsibility to take care 281 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:09.559 of themselves. 282 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:12.840 Agreed. And a couple of things come up for me, 283 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:16.120 which is one because you do bring in transparency right 284 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.840 like at what you know because you're you've been very 285 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:24.440 transparent about your life to everyone in your life and 286 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.840 which you know you hold yourself to the utmost integrity, 287 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.360 which I love, and then you have people coming in 288 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.080 who who can't. And so I want to talk a 289 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:42.200 little bit about like the difference between transparency and privacy 290 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.039 or discernment, because I think they're you know, and they're 291 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:50.080 fine lines. Right, there's a difference between lying, right, there's lying, 292 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.200 there's just like fighting, well, and do we want to 293 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.919 say lying, let's just say hiding, and then there is 294 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.679 transparency and discernment, that's right. 295 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.559 Yeah, you mean for these customers that were coming in. 296 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:08.160 Yeah, both for the customers and for you personally, Like 297 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.279 how do you how do you define them for yourself? 298 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:13.920 Because I know for me, the way I was brought up, 299 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.440 I was not allowed to lie, right, I was not allowed, 300 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:21.599 and so I was in I became an oversharer because 301 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.359 I wasn't allowed to keep anything for myself. And yet 302 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:27.359 I was still shamed for telling my truth. But I 303 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.960 think my truth came out more out of obligation rather 304 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.880 than from a sense of my own integrity when I 305 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:40.279 was younger, and today I'm actually working on discernment, which means. 306 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.279 Transparency, like to be open and honest. 307 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.200 Yet you know, I don't owe everybody everything, right as 308 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.039 long as I Yeah. 309 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:50.039 I tend to think about it in terms of, you know, 310 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:54.440 if I'm thinking of being transparent with somebody about something 311 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:58.680 you know, personal to me, what is my reason for 312 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:03.839 wanting to do that, and you know what might come 313 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.240 of it? So, for example, I didn't tell the whole 314 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.240 world that I was an exotic dancer. Thought wouldn't have 315 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:12.079 been necessarily a wise thing to do, but in some 316 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.359 cases it also wouldn't be a kind thing to do. 317 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:19.559 For example, I didn't tell my elderly Italian father thought 318 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.880 I was a stripper, right because that had no bearing 319 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:26.519 on our relationship at all, And I imagined that he 320 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.680 probably would have felt, you know, sad or worried about 321 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.640 me or disappointed or so, you know, those kind of

feelings, 322 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.480 and like what would be the point of that? Right? 323 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:42.240 So I think this this kind of stuff is extremely situational. 324 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.079 Yeah, and you but you did tell your husband, your 325 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.400 ex husband, sorry, your ext I did you did? You 326 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.680 came clean after around an affair, You came clean around 327 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:57.519 what you're doing, which and just which took a lot 328 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:01.359 of courage, you know, to be able to say, yeah, 329 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.119 I can hold space now for your feelings and your age. 330 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.359 You say it beautifully, just simply like, oh God, I 331 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.640 can hold this. It's not pleasant that I can hold Yeah. 332 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.799 I mean the thing that I had been scared of, 333 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.599 you know, basically since I met my ex husband, is 334 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.440 that you'd be really really mad at me. And he 335 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.720 was really really mad at me. And I think that 336 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.720 was empowering for me because I realized, like I didn't 337 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:31.319 actually disintegrate, nothing terrible happened when he was really really mad. 338 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.599 Yeah, that he could have his his emotion, he can 339 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:39.880 have his experience, and the fear, as say, challenging or 340 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.559 difficult as it is to hear it from someone else 341 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.799 or to be in that same space, is also more 342 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.079 than survivable. But by that time, let me see, you 343 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:51.599 probably did enough inner work to be able to hold 344 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:55.160 that inside yourself because you didn't make it about all 345 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.799 about you, like it didn't become about yourself worth, your 346 00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:58.519 self esteem. 347 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.759 That's right, that's right. Yeah. I mean I've had to 348 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.000 do a lot of work to get where I am now. 349 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.440 You know, some people look at me and they say, wow, 350 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.440 you have such a great life, and I say, thank you, 351 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.160 I know I do. And do you have any idea 352 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:17.559 how many hours of therapy I've done it to get 353 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.000 where I am now like just even to be as 354 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.400 normal as I am, which you know none of us 355 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:27.200 is completely normal, but you have no idea. And the 356 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:30.000 same thing for my current husband, he went through so 357 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:33.839 much therapy and we're so both so grateful that we 358 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:35.720 did all that because now we can be in this 359 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:37.680 healthy relationship. 360 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.799 Yeah, imagine that calling in? Did you call in your 361 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.119 husband your current for sure? 362 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:49.640 Yes? Yes, I went to When I went to life 363 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.559 coaching school, it was with Gay and Kathlyn Hendrix out 364 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:56.000 in California, and they, you know, they're known, especially Gay 365 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:59.960 for you know, helping with manifestation. So I took this 366 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.400 is like you know, two or three D course of 367 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.319 how to call in your partner. And so I wrote 368 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:10.319 on a piece of paper that I stuck upon the 369 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:14.559 refrigerator exactly what I was looking for, which is somebody 370 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:22.359 that meets me physically right, sexually, emotionally and spiritually. And 371 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:23.559 that's what I got. 372 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:29.039 Yeah, and I think, you know again coming back to 373 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:32.200 the to the sexual energy piece and clearing out a 374 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.319 lot of things that most people don't get because not 375 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:40.599 everybody gets to the sacred sexuality piece or the TNTRA piece. 376 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:42.680 I think contra takes it to a level that many 377 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.559 people don't necessarily go down that path. But having recognition, 378 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:50.880 the recognition that sex is divine, that there is a 379 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:55.279 sacredness to it, whether you are stripping, whether you're you're 380 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:57.960 whether you're the you are the stripper or the person 381 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:02.160 watching the stripping, or the showing up. I'm say with 382 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:06.039 laingerie under their coach right as a man, however, somebody 383 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:10.839 shows up that it's sacred because it's being expressed, and 384 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:15.160 yet we do so much taboo around it, so much 385 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.640 shaming still, And I just love your openness, right because 386 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.920 you're so open around like, anything goes as long as 387 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.240 it's you know, it's not harming anyone, and that's it. 388 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:30.920 You're in p Yeah, anything consensual between two adults is 389 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.160 okay by me. I had a client last week who 390 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:37.720 has a foot fetish, and he was like, you know, 391 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:40.680 thank you for not shaming me about it because I 392 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:44.880 had a partner and she was like, oh, that's

disgusting, 393 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.519 you know, And and he had shame about it, and 394 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:50.240 he was like, yeah, like I like, guys, you have 395 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.799 foot fetishes. I think it's awesome, you know what I mean, Like, 396 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.839 there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. You know, and I 397 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:59.519 think that that was healing for him because he had 398 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.680 had I mean, that's just it's not so uncommon that 399 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:05.680 guys have foot fetishes, and you know, and he had 400 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.200 a little wound there and so you know, these are 401 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.160 the kinds of this is the kind of healing that 402 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.119 people can get when they go to a professional like 403 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.400 you or me or you know. There's so there's more 404 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:20.160 of us out there now because it is becoming a 405 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:24.759 bigger topic, which is so wonderful. Yeah, it's so needed. 406 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.480 And it's you know, we say we never yuck somebody's 407 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:29.160 yum exactly. 408 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:30.039 Yeah, it's right. 409 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:34.119 Which I love that statement. And I'm like, because it's 410 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.200 funny because I'm the opposite of the foot fetish unfortunately, 411 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:39.400 like I've met and it comes from a real place, 412 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:42.599 like my feet used to just be you know, I 413 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.599 danced and they were horrible creatures, my feet, right, So 414 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.920 my shame was around, please don't look at my feet, 415 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:50.519 Please don't touch my feet. 416 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:51.799 They feel horrendous, like. 417 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.960 They're just so so it's understanding I think when couples 418 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.559 come in or not just couples, when we're looking at 419 00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:05.640 another human, actually to always approach someone with like real consideration, 420 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.160 even even if this is not your life partner, just 421 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:13.680 real consideration around their bodies and what they might be carrying. 422 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.000 Absolutely yes. And you know a lot of people will 423 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.480 say like, oh, women have so many hang ups about 424 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.559 their bodies, and it's true. And I happen to also, no, 425 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:28.480 because I've worked with plenty of men that men do too, right, 426 00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:33.119 it's not just the women who have this body shame. 427 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.160 Yeah, And we're right now, we're in the you know, 428 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.559 brush everything

off and you know, blur everything, and everything 429 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.839 has to be perfect. And you say, like you made 430 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:49.519 a conscious choice not to not to go into hyper 431 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.920 correction of everything that you showed up on the stage 432 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.720 as a natural body and looked around the room and said, oh, 433 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:59.279 you know, there's no such thing as ugly. Nobody has 434 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:04.880 like a completely ugly body, right, nobody has a perfectly 435 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:05.960 beautiful body. 436 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:11.400 That it's the combination. Absolutely yes. I think it's a 437 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.440 lot to do with like the light that shines from 438 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.920 within each one of us and how much we allow 439 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:20.400 that to show. I can tell you that I've seen 440 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:26.000 hundreds of women naked. I danced for eight years. I 441 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:28.759 didn't just stop after life coaching school, I used it 442 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:32.319 as a way to then open my private practice and 443 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:35.759 stop working for agencies. So you know, I did this 444 00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:39.200 for years. I say, so many bodies. There is definitely 445 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:43.039 no such thing as a perfect body. And you know 446 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:47.599 there's nineteen year old women with sagging, small breasts. There's 447 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:52.799 just everything you can possibly imagine. And yet you know 448 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.200 I don't have perfect body either. But I'll tell you what. 449 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.160 I got so many compliments on so many different parts 450 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.279 of my bodies, including things that I never would have 451 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.920 even thought about, like my ear lobes, that I say, 452 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.039 you know, it just really we're all good, We're all okay. 453 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.160 We don't have to have some kind of classically beauty, 454 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.359 classically beautiful body in order to be attractive to others. 455 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.799 And all we really have to do is what I 456 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.359 did at the club. And I think a lot of 457 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.119 the dancers didn't like me because I came in, I 458 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.160 was older, and I almost always made more money than everybody. 459 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.119 But my secret was I just was being myself. 460 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:36.599 Yeah, you just showed up authentically as opposed to eating 461 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.839 to cover it up with. And I'm not going to 462 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.440 say like fake breasts are bad, like it's whatever anybody 463 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:46.440 uses it's not

the point. It's that it's when we 464 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.480 get into a space that we are constantly fixing ourselves 465 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.160 on the outside as some kind of band aid for 466 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.200 the inside. And I'm not opposed to any kind of like, 467 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.599 you know, nip and tuck, whatever you like. That's fine 468 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:03.480 as long as it's coming from place of loving yourself 469 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.960 and knowing who you are fundamentally and not thinking that, 470 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.960 oh if I get that tummy talk now, I'm going 471 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:10.599 to be loved. 472 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:11.960 When I get that. 473 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.359 You know, chin done now, I'm going to be beautiful 474 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.680 and accepted as a you know, coming in as full body. 475 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.240 And I just I love that you kept everything like 476 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.920 you're like, yes, I just honor the natural of me, of. 477 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:28.680 Who I am. Yeah. Yeah, And people love authenticity, like 478 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:33.200 we never really have to do anything different than just 479 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.799 be who we are, right Like I'm here, okay, Yeah, 480 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.119 I have some makeup on because you know, I'm on cameras. 481 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:44.079 It's gonna look better. But I know that I'm beautiful 482 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.039 whether I have makeup on or not. And I've seen women, 483 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.400 I know, I know some women that honestly I think 484 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.599 look much more beautiful without their makeup. I agree. 485 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.039 Sometimes you're like, oh, I like you better without. 486 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like all we really how to do 487 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.519 is be ourselves, and they think that we can't very 488 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.759 often see ourselves through the eyes of others, because of 489 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.319 course we're who we are, right, so we're looking at 490 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:15.839 ourselves many times. So critically, they think that if most people, 491 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.359 men and women could really see themselves more objectively, it 492 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:24.440 would probably be able to see how attractive they really are. 493 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.640 And I think it's important to bring in the men because, 494 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:32.279 as you said, we take for granted, you know, messaging 495 00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:35.519 around women's bodies has been so out there and it 496 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.119 continues to be. Right now we're dealing with avatars. 497 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.599 And I hate all that. 498 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.960 You know, it was one thing and when things were 499

00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.039 airbrushed and you know, lenses, I just remember when cameras 500 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.599 still wise. 501 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:48.200 I don't know if I remember when, but. 502 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.680 Cameras definitely didn't show all of your pores, and cameras 503 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:52.880 definitely weren't. 504 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.559 Like zooming in on everything. 505 00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.240 There were. I mean, I think there was even a 506 00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.640 time when they put vaciline on the lens, you know, 507 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:05.200 for the Hollywood Yeah right, that very dreamy look to wow, 508 00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:10.400 you know, and we've gotten into hyperrealism, and it's really 509 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.240 damaging to women and and men. And I want to 510 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.319 talk a little bit about men because I think men 511 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:20.400 often also get the short end of like, oh, men 512 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.240 want women to be this, but we forget that men 513 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.200 also have insecurities they do that. 514 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:31.799 We don't talk about. Yeah, they have insecurities about their bodies, 515 00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:37.720 about their weight, sometimes about their stretch marks. Also, this 516 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.640 is not uncommon. I've had a number of men and 517 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.400 you might have encountered this too, who tell me that 518 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:47.440 they have so much insecurity about the size of their penis. 519 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.799 And some of these men do not have small penises 520 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.960 compared to like, you know, the average sized penis, which 521 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.519 is five point five inches. Some of these men have 522 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.319 direct penises that are bigger than that. But because they're 523 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.160 so used to watching porn, they think that they have 524 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:13.880 a small penis. Yeah, because it's so distorted in what 525 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:15.119 perfection is. 526 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.920 And so I'm going to call him now a friend 527 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:20.880 of mine, but he wasn't what I met him, because 528 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:22.920 he's the one who did the Great Wall of Volva 529 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.319 uh and and so, and he's done the Great Spice 530 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.559 of Life and so on, the Great Spice of Life. 531 00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:32.039 He had all you know, he had both women, women's breasts, 532 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:37.119 women's vlvas and penises and just the variety, and I 533 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.039 think there's it's so it was so eye opening for 534 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.640 me to see the library because I thought, you know, 535 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.640 and I come back to this, I've said it before, 536 00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.319 where I just thought there was something like so abnormal 537 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.599 about the way I was shaped or the way I 538 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.039 am and just trying to correct and trying to be like, 539 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.640 oh my god, what is the perfect baba looking like 540 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:03.680 CORIONI that it's got this perfect Barbie kind of thing, 541 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.680 those dimensions that actually make you fall to the floor. 542 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.039 Nobody's actually built that way and can and not have 543 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.880 back pain severely. Yeah, But also for ment to realize 544 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:20.359 like the variance of sizes, of shapes, of color of 545 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.720 like I mean everything mm hmm, and that it's all magical. 546 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.079 Right, exactly, it's all normal, it's all magical, it's all okay, 547 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.920 it's all lovable. Yeah, And that is so not the 548 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.440 message that we've been given about our own bodies and 549 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:39.240 our own genitals. So yeah, I'm glad you said the 550 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.799 word yoni. A lot of people, you know, in the 551 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:46.000 general public don't know what that means. So yes, it does. 552 00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.720 You know you were using the word volva. That's also 553 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.079 really good because there's been this misconsumption that a volva, 554 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.079 which is the exterior part of a female genitals, is 555 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.480 of avagina. Well, no, that's not a vagina. That's evolva, right, 556 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.640 it's the outer lips, the inner lips, the clitteras the 557 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:11.119 clitteral hood, that's evolva. Then the inner part of a 558 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.839 woman's sex organs is the vagina, and then there's the womb. 559 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:19.599 In all three of those together is what is a yoni. 560 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.200 And yoni means sacred space in Sanskrit, so that's a 561 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.160 ton tric term. People don't know it. And I love 562 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.240 using the word because I think it gets rid of 563 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.079 all the shame about those other words, right that they're 564 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.720 so stigmatizing, and people are so embarrassed and to say them, 565 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:37.720 and they're so weighted. 566 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.079 But I love it there way, And I know so many, 567 00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:45.119 you know, having done Laila Martin's and like just seeing 568 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.279 you know, the word pussy used with with such excuberance, 569 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.319 which I still love, like and

sometimes I use it 570 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:54.200 sometimes like oh yeah, pussy sounds delicious, and then other times, 571 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:54.599 like for. 572 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.559 Me, I do like I do like Yoni. 573 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.640 It feels like it's a really all encompassing it feels sacred, 574 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:03.799 feel beautiful. I don't know if I use lingam as much. 575 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.079 You know, I'm still I still play with like, oh, 576 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.200 what words feel good? But I like to just ask 577 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.279 someone else. But from there, I want to talk about 578 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:20.680 Yoni massage. And because the power of Yoni massage, yes, let's. 579 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.240 Talk about it. So so for decades I've been teaching workshops, 580 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.039 teaching couples. Usually sometimes I would get a throuble who'd 581 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.480 come to, like three people in a relationship together and 582 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:36.359 teaching either Yoni massage, which is you know, done on 583 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.480 someone with a female body, or linga massage, which is 584 00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.839 done on some with a male body. Right, Linga means 585 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.839 ones of light in Sanskrit. To me, that's so much 586 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.279 more beautiful than cock or you know, all these other words. 587 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:54.839 But I use them all and people think that they're 588 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.400 gonna come and they're going to learn this hot new 589 00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.759 technique that's going to really spice up their sex life. 590 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.599 And I don't tell them ahead of time that you know, 591 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:10.000 it's really a healing modality, it's really a spiritual practice. 592 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.639 Because they're going to sign up thinking it's this wonderful thing, 593 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.400 and it does lead to a lot more intimacy, and 594 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.519 it certainly can lead to a lot better sex. But 595 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:23.719 what it really is is it's a massaging of the 596 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:31.079 exterior and interior genitals. People have stuck energy in their bodies. 597 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.360 Everybody has it, right. It could be from it could 598 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.599 be from a rape, it could be from a car accident, 599 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.400 it could be from a bad divorce. Like everybody's got 600 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.280 some of these things that have happened to them in 601 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.000 their life. And the biggest place in the body for 602 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.519 a woman where she stores that energy is actually in 603 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:54.119 her womb. But if the G spot is massaged, yes 604 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.440 there really is such a thing as a G spot, 605 00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:00.800 then that releases the energy, that stuck energy. And so 606 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:08.239 when women have pain during penetrative sex, when women actually 607 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.480 get to the point where they can't even have anything 608 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.159 inserted inside of them, when women have numbness, when women 609 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.880 just don't feel much inside of their yonies, it's all 610 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.880 related to that stuck energy. And so the more that 611 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.039 that spot is massage, the more that stuck energy gets released, 612 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.679 and the more pleasure is then available. So I've been 613 00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:39.480 teaching these workshops. Like I said, then I met this 614 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:41.960 guy who signed up for a connection call with me, 615 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.159 decided not to work with me. I was potentially going 616 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.920 to teach him how to do ling a massage for himself. Well, 617 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.360 he did it on his own, and then he started 618 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.360 writing me these emails as if we knew each other. 619 00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:56.840 And I was really confused because it's already been two 620 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.800 or three years. And I was like, I'm really sorry 621 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.639 to have to say this, but who are you? How 622 00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:03.360 do we know each other? And he said, yeah, I 623 00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.880 did this connection call with you. Then I started doing 624 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.119 my ownly a massage and I'm having the most amazing experiences. 625 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.440 I'm just having one full body orgasm after another. And 626 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.519 this is what has happened as a result of me 627 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:19.599 continuing to give myself ling a massage every day for 628 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.760 a period of two to three years. So then I 629 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.440 was like, oh my gosh, we got to tell the 630 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:29.840 world about this. This is incredible, right, And that started 631 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.639 to tell the world about it. Then I started saying, ladies, 632 00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.800 you know, while I'm blogging, you gotta try this thing 633 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.920 this self. You only massage do it, And then I 634 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.159 thought to myself, I'm not doing it, so I should 635 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.519 probably be doing it if I'm telling other women to 636 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.000 do it. So unbeknownst to me, what I found out 637 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.880 through the experience is that when women have unbalanced hormones 638 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.239 because of perimenopause, menopause or

being postmenopausal like I am 639 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:04.039 because I'm sick now, it balances your hormones to give 640 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:08.199 yourself a yoni massage. And so I started to like, 641 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.599 I was having problems with not being wet enough, wetter 642 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:13.880 than ever before in my life. Now I've been doing 643 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.320 this practice every day for a year and a half, 644 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:21.320 started being less interested in sex because frankly, it wasn't 645 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.840 because my partner, but the sex wasn't as good because 646 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.000 my orgasms were kind of like a little blip instead of, 647 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.480 you know, instead of being the way they used to be. 648 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.599 And so all of these problems like got fixed by 649 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.760 doing the selfioning massage. And I think it's like, you know, 650 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.679 why do we not all know about this, right? Like, 651 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.880 and I know the answer, but really, shouldn't we all 652 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.360 know these things about our own bodies, Like, yeah, you 653 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.320 will have drops in certain hormones, but guess what, there's 654 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.039 a thing you can do that you can learn. And 655 00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:59.400 then you can do it yourself every day or as 656 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.480 often as you and it's free to practice. 657 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.920 It because it's free, it doesn't involve medication at your 658 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:07.639 own pace. 659 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.400 It's and it's such a discovery. 660 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.280 I think most women or many women don't don't even 661 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.280 know their bodies, like don't even know what they're capable of. 662 00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:24.000 And like moving through numbness isn't force or pain or 663 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:27.320 trying what you know and just and going and really 664 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.079 exploring the different parts and being able to be with 665 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.559 all of the sensations. And like you said, it's not 666 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.159 you think you're going into like session one and you're like, 667 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.840 I want to experience this, give me the magic pill, right, 668 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.360 exactly right, And I'm always like, you know what, it's 669 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:43.039 a journey. 670 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:43.599 It's not. 671 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.199 It's not like, yes, maybe tomorrow it's going to be explosive, 672 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.519 it's gonna be amazing. You're gonna have multiple organisms and 673 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.280 then you're gonna have like a day where it's not 674 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.920 because when our bodies cycle, and it is a learning 675 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.639 process of going, Oh, this area has been stuck for 676 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.360 so long, be it the the car accident, the sexual 677 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.360 assault or or whatever, or deep grief or whatever has 678 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.280 been stored in different parts of our womb. 679 00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:10.039 And I do. 680 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.119 And you reminded me. I said to you, I said, 681 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.360 you know, I'm I God. You've just inspired me to 682 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.519 do like the thirty day challenge or the succeed to 683 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:21.679 do the challenge, to do it every day for like 684 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.360 a solid practice of let's say, you know, let's say 685 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.880 ninety days, I'll hold myself accountable to that. I like 686 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.079 it so that it's because I too. I mean, this 687 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.159 is what I do for work. And do you think 688 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.719 I'm doing that every day? No, I'm helping others while 689 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:41.639 not like you know, being able to. It's the giving 690 00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.760 without being able to really come back and. 691 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.239 The importance of that. 692 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.119 And for men who never think to do this, because again, 693 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:53.960 men are just taught like you thrust one out, that's right, 694 00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:55.559 it's trust one out. 695 00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:56.079 It's good. 696 00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.960 Once you come, it's gone, and you know, and it's true. 697 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:03.239 They expend so much energy that after the words are 698 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:08.039 like I'm done, and then the disparaging part around women 699 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.199 where they're like, well I haven't even I haven't even 700 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.360 got started, right, And I find that that in between. 701 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.400 But also for men understanding that you don't have to 702 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.920 give all of your energy away that you can bring 703 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:24.199 in this beautiful practice and it it gives you those 704 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.400 full bodied orgasms, allows you to come literally to orgasm 705 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.960 over and over. And that orgasm is not the same 706 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:38.079 as ejaculation. Same thing for women, right, the orgasm versus peaking. 707 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.239 You know understanding that, yes, having a contraction is not 708 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:48.840 the same as having deep deep waves or ripples or energetics. However, 709 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.559 orgasms happen for you are not the same. 710 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.599 Yeah, I think you're really right in

saying that a 711 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.960 lot most people have no idea what their bodies are 712 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.800 capable of. I mean, I've been having good sex for 713 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.960 many years with different partners. Right I'm having the best 714 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.320 sex I've ever had, and my body is doing things 715 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.440 that I didn't even know it could do. And what 716 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.960 I elseo know about that is there's no end, right, Like, 717 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.679 it can just actually keep getting better and better and better. 718 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:27.079 And it's a myth that women have to kind of 719 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.960 like give up their sexuality at a certain age or 720 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.719 it's never going. 721 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.000 To be as good as it used to be. 722 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.360 Because why I know this now from my own experience, 723 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.039 not only can it be as good, it can be better. 724 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:41.960 And this can be the best sexual time of our lives. 725 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:45.880 Once we get you know, forty and up, it can 726 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:47.679 become the best time. 727 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.000 Which I love because you're sixty and to me, you know, 728 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.960 I was brought up again. Right you go to shrivel 729 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.159 up and die at forty, it's kind of what I was, 730 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.840 you know, like when you're forty, you're done. If nothing 731 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.760 great has happened in your life up until. 732 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:01.480 Then, forget it. 733 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:03.440 It's like, you know, you'd be lucky if you can 734 00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.639 hang on to your men, or like hang on to 735 00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:06.840 your partner. 736 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.880 Because your libido goes to die. And I think it's 737 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:10.480 so sad. 738 00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.000 I'm not going to name who, but I've got a 739 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.760 very special someone in my life who's you know, sixty 740 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.320 five now, I think, And it's experiencing the best sex 741 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.199 of her life with her partner. And so, you know, 742 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:31.320 I really encourage women, couples in fact, to re visit 743 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.800 that old decrepit belief system that has no use and 744 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.280 for men as well, right that all of a sudden, 745 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.679 because men's hormones change too. We think it's just women 746 00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.440 whose bodies changed, but men's bodies changed too, where erections 747 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.440 don't become the Norman just being able to sustain at 748 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.039 a level that they did when they're twenty right, bounce right. 749 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.400 Back, Yeah, that's right, like they used to be able 750 00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.360 to do. Actually, here's the other great news. Not only 751 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:03.599 does it well with sexual sacred spot massage helps women 752 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.199 with their sexual dysfunction and so many other things, it 753 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.679 also helps men with theirs. So you probably knew this, 754 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.079 but ling a massage which really for a man than 755 00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.400 the spot where the stuck energy is held as in 756 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.599 the prostate, right, So it involves an internal part of 757 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:26.159 the massage, and that actually massaging the prostate corrects a 758 00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:28.480 lot of the erectil problems that men have. 759 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.119 So now you are doing this right now, Like, I 760 00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.840 don't know how I feel about that's all right, I. 761 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.719 Know I know men and it's the same as with women. 762 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.519 Like some men don't experience much pleasure when they first 763 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.639 start having prostate massage, but over time they certainly can. 764 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.840 And I know men that can have orgasms from prostate massage, 765 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.119 but usually it's men who've had a lot of prostate massage. 766 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.920 So all that stuck energy is gone and there's nothing 767 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.480 left but pleasure. Yeah, they're able to release it. 768 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.280 Yeah, So what do you think in your journey that 769 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.119 you have learned the most, Like, what are some of 770 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.679 the really key parts for you? 771 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:22.760 I would say it's you know this phrase came to me. 772 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:26.559 I'm sure it was divinely guided. You know that God 773 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:30.960 or Goddess is pro sex. That's one really big book, right, 774 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.039 Like Goddess does not think sex is bad or evil. 775 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:41.400 She thinks it's wonderful. And in fact, I have this 776 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.000 friend who does some channeling, and years ago we all 777 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.280 used to get together. We'd have this meditation group in 778 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.960 my office and Sunday mornings, and afterwards she would channel 779 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.920 and very often we'd start talking about sex because that's 780 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:57.159 my thing. And through the channeling, the message was your 781 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.880 sexuality is your spiritual They're one and the same, right, 782 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.519 which is such

the opposite message. So that's one really 783 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.199 huge one. Also, we're all so much more awesome and 784 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:16.880 amazing than we think we are. And yeah, sex is 785 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.280 not over at forty fifty, sixty, seventy or eighty or 786 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.199 even ninety, like it doesn't have to be. And I 787 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.320 think that another big one is if you decide, if 788 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.599 you make the decision to say, well, you know, I'm 789 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.119 not really having sex, I'm not having good sex. But 790 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.880 I'm just gonna forget about that, Like you're cutting out 791 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.519 a huge part of the joy that's available to a 792 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.920 human being in their life as a human living on 793 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.199 this planet. Like that's one of the best things there is. 794 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.800 And if you start thinking, I'll just let it go, 795 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.000 there's something off about your thinking. 796 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.159 I agree, And I know we can't get into it 797 00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:01.480 too much today because as we urin in But you know, 798 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.840 one thing that strikes me in today's world is that 799 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:09.039 we're approaching a time where asexuality is a very popular notion. 800 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.360 And I've heard way too many people say, you know, 801 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.320 sex isn't important. Even when I was growing up. Oh 802 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.639 you know, I always knew. I always entered these relationships 803 00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:18.960 when I was young that it was like sex isn't important, 804 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.320 and it was so important to me. 805 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:22.960 And I was like, I guess not, But am I 806 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.639 missing That's funny? 807 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.280 Today I'm like, I'm like, no, we can be friends, right, 808 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.480 Like if sex is not important too, we can be friends. 809 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.800 We'd be great friends. But that's right, because it is 810 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.000 so much life for us. But as we enter as 811 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.639 we are in this age right now, I think it's 812 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:42.199 so sad that and I don't know what's going on 813 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.599 this this like there's a trend of a sexuality and 814 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.760 I don't I truly don't know if it's you know, 815 00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:51.559 something in the water food, or or that we've so 816 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.239 sexually shamed our children or you know that I mean 817 00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.440 just at such a core, deep level that our children 818 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.880 are growing up, or that there's so much fear in 819 00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.480 the world, the way the state of the world that 820 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:13.239 is literally cutting a new generation off from its life force, 821 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.239 which I'm like, we're breeding ourselves right out of existence, 822 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.719 or like I'm breeding ourselves right out of existence. 823 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.400 Yeah, now I've heard that too, that I've heard this 824 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.559 many times. I'm guessing it is really true. Yeah, there's 825 00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:30.280 a trend for that young people are having less sex 826 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:31.920 right than the. 827 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.320 Ray right, Yeah, we have another woodstock. 828 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.599 Like all we wanted to do was have sex as 829 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:41.559 much as possible. 830 00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.519 Yes, and now it's like it's almost like, ugh, are 831 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.079 you having sex again? To the parents. I don't know, 832 00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.079 That's what I'm imagining, all right. I want to make 833 00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.719 sure I get these questions in and that okay, that 834 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.280 everyone knows how to find you, and you're offering so 835 00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.000 question one, what is one truth? Your body has always 836 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:01.719 known that your mind took years to. 837 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.920 Catch up to. Oh my goodness. I think the truth 838 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:10.719 is that my body always knows, so the body doesn't lie. 839 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.559 Sometimes things would happen and my body would know, and 840 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.000 I would try to convince myself otherwise, But no, the 841 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.840 body does always know. Thank you. 842 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.800 What is the most intimate moment you've ever had that 843 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:24.400 had nothing to do with sex? 844 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.880 Oh my goodness, Wow, that's I would guess. It is 845 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:36.800 probably staring into the eyes of another person, like really 846 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.760 being present with my hat. Oh beautiful. 847 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.880 Yeah, it's scary, right, It's like just sitting there and breathing. 848 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.800 You're like, I don't know why I'm so scared right now? 849 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:50.199 Yeah? Yeah, I think it's like an instinctual thing. Mm hmm. 850 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:56.239 Thank you. If you could be remembered for one sensation 851 00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:57.920 you gave someone, what would it be. 852 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.400 For them to feel the physical penetration of my love 853 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:10.440 for them? Thank you? Ah. 854 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.880 If leisure were a language, what would your first word

be? 855 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:16.320 You be? 856 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.440 And if your erotic life had a title like a 857 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:26.760 novel or a film, what would it be called? She 858 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.320 kept going and it got better and better. What is 859 00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.920 one thing you've never said out loud. But you wish 860 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.239 someone would ask you. 861 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:41.519 About Oh, my goodness, I don't think there's a thing, 862 00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:50.079 because I'm so transparent that I've already told everyone prevede beautiful. 863 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.800 It's good. It means nothing has been left unsaid. Right, 864 00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:59.159 What part of your erotic self are you still afraid? 865 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.239 I'm not sure freight would be the right word for 866 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:05.360 you to bring to the light. Let's see, are you 867 00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.320 still inspired to bring to the light? 868 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.280 Oh? Probably some of my darker tendencies, like my sadistic 869 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.039 ones that you know, part of my brain is like, no, 870 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.239 you can't do that. That would be evil and bad. 871 00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.840 But oh so good, Yes, to throw that in there, 872 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:24.760 but's so good. 873 00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:27.280 Excuse me? 874 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.320 What dies in you when you pretend? And what comes 875 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.000 alive in you when you don't? 876 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:39.800 Oh? Like, my literal life force energy dies like who 877 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.440 I am at? You know, in my essence dies when 878 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:48.719 I pretend and my essence comes forth, you know, my 879 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:54.159 real exuberant life force energy comes forth when I'm real. 880 00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:56.360 Thank you. 881 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:02.119 Now finish this sentence. When I leave this life, I 882 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.280 want my skin to remember. 883 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.840 All the pleasure it has experienced. 884 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:15.840 Oh yes, please, And if the soul has a scent. 885 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:17.960 What does yours smell like today? 886 00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:19.480 Oh? 887 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:26.000 I want to say rose beautiful, Thank you, thank You're welcome. 888 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.679 So I'm just gonna yeah, that was so much fun. Yes, 889 00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:33.159 thank you. I want to just ask you if there's 890 00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.960 anything that you want to leave our audience with our listeners, 891 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.280 any pearls of wisdom and any offerings that you have. 892 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:47.280 Yes, absolutely so. I mentioned the the self study course 893 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.719 for women, right,

which is called the Lost Art, And 894 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.679 I call it that because Contra to me, is like 895 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.840 it's been lost to our world. People don't even understand 896 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.840 what it is really. They think it's all sexual and 897 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:03.920 it's really not. And I also understand that it's a 898 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.960 big jump, right and scary for women to just be like, yes, 899 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.960 I want to sign up, and you know, take Maria's course. 900 00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:16.320 It's eight modules, it all been professionally filmed. Right, You've 901 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.119 seen the class because I have. Yeah, that's wonderful. 902 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:23.039 Yeah it's and it's beautifully done and so clear and instruction. 903 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:29.119 I think for anyone who's just just who hasn't gone there, 904 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.199 I just really needs this clear map and guide. It's 905 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.119 it's perfectly and beautifully done. 906 00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:39.960 Thank you. So what I realized is that a lot 907 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:43.199 of women are not ready to just jump there, and 908 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.400 so I've made something that's like a baby step, because 909 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:49.039 that's what mostly we all need right when we're scared 910 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.159 to do something, is a baby step. And the baby 911 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.920 step is a five minute Yoni awakening ritual for those 912 00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:02.440 of us who have felt disconnected from our own yonies, 913 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:04.880 which can certainly happen later in life, but really it 914 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:08.519 could be for anybody. So it's a PDF that's like 915 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.360 educational and then it's a five minute video which is 916 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:15.119 really like a meditation, and it gives an opportunity for 917 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.639 the woman to with their own consent, to touch their 918 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.519 body in pleasurable ways and to touch theironi in pleasurable ways. 919 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.920 And almost nobody can say they don't have enough time 920 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.119 for doing a five minute practice. So if you do 921 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.400 want to find that, it's my website Maria Mrloni m 922 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.800 A r I A M E r l O n 923 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:43.559 I dot com slash ritual and it'll bring you write 924 00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.440 your page where you can sign up to have that 925 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.280 sent to you, and it's my gift to you. There's 926 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.840 no charge for it, and I hope that it will 927 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:56.320 re spark something in you because it really is worth it, right. 928 00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.400 And I would say to anyone who's like willing, you know, 929 00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.000 even just have the desire, even the little desire to 930 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.360 go full fledged like all in. It's it's you know, 931 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.360 the scariest part is saying yes to yourself and then 932 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.559 when you realize like, oh, this isn't scary, this is 933 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.840 something my body has been calling for. There's no like 934 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.280 you know, it's it's there to nourish you, and you 935 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:23.760 do it in such a safe and educated and very 936 00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:28.000 easy going easier right, It's just easy way, easy being. 937 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.519 And so yeah, I just highly recommend. 938 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:33.800 So thank you for being here. 939 00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.880 This was amazing, Yeah, absolute pleasure. 940 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.000 And for is there anything else you want to say 941 00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:41.760 before we go? 942 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.480 I think I've kind of probably said it all for 943 00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:46.960 the moment. 944 00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.760 Yeah, all right, I'm just going to. 945 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.920 Say goodbye to everyone. See you next week. 946 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.320 Thank you for joining us for this conversation with Maria, 947 00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:02.039 and yeah, see you next week, joh. Thank you for 948 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.599 listening to Skin and Soul with me, Gwenham. Join me 949 00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.159 Fridays at ten ampst on Transformation Talk Radio. Catch the 950 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:11.320 podcast anytime on your favorite platforms. You can follow me 951 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.039 on Instagram at Ubology ready to. 952 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:14.800 Take the next step. 953 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:30.760 Book a compatibilitycall with me at Gwenhemcarsley dot com.