บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Tangled in ‘Big Letters,’ Quick Wit & Designer Discounts (with Michelle Collins)

listen to you, I'm just like, she comes up with stuff so fast. 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:45.199 You need your own show. 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:50.159 I know you have your own show, but we need you, as Brian Safe said, we need you on daytime every single day. 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:51.039 Oh my God. 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:52.159 Okay, you know what? 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:52.879 I'm warmed. 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:53.520 You're right. 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.439 I'm sorry I was too quick. 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:00.159 Quickest way to my heart is just complimenting me so graciously. 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:08.240 And that is so sweet of you to say, you said 20 years, and I felt like I was in like a Spielberg film of some sort of like horrible flashback. 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.080 Like, how has it been 20 years? 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:14.400 Well, I think starting with Best Week Ever Day is you being on TV. 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:20.639 I started VH1 in 2026 or 20, I wish, in 20, it doesn't even exist anymore, 2006. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:22.720 I should add for those listening, it is early. 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:24.800 I'm at my parents' place in Miami. 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.439 So, you know, I'll I'll I'll get into it. 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:28.639 But that was such a nice intro. 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:32.000 And also you named two of my favorite people on earth, Brian Staffee and Danny Pellegrino. 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.480 And another one I'm actually interviewing later today who also adores you, Matt Rogers. 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:37.680 Oh my God. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:38.639 Another one. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:39.839 He has my whole heart. 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:41.759 I mean, I just love those boys so much. 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:56.639 And, you know, how lucky are we to even be able to like know these people and actually know them personally because they have so many fans who obviously love their comedy, but I can vouch that they all the names you've mentioned are just like the loveliest, most open-hearted, kindest people. 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:57.920 So I'm I'm thrilled for you. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:04:58.800 Tell Matt I say hi. 00:04:59.040 --> 00:04:59.839 And beautiful company. 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:06.319 Yeah, when I started this podcast, I made a dream guest list with about 20 names and you are were like right up there, and so was Matt. 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.079 So it's incredible to have two of them today. 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:14.959 And I've knocked a few of them off, uh like Rosie O'Donnell and um Ross Matthews and some people, but I'm just so excited to speak with you. 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:16.240 So we're gonna cover a lot. 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:22.800 I want to talk about your upbringing, comedy, the new tour, the In Big Letters tour, and we'll see how much we get to, but there's a lot to cover. 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:23.600 Okay, let's go. 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:29.600 And I'm gonna try to answer some ask some questions that you haven't been asked because I know you speak a lot and you're on air every single day. 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.839 I can answer them, but you can ask me anything you like. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:32.399 Go for it. 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.279 Born in Miami, lived in New York for many years. 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.399 I remember in the pandemic, you would have that show with Adam Rip on. 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:41.680 You would do your Instagram and you have that big staircase behind you. 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.560 But first I want to start off with where is your home right now? 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:50.399 Because I feel like you've been traveling the globe for the last five or six years, and I can never really pinpoint where you're settling down. 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:51.680 Are you just a nomad? 00:05:51.920 --> 00:06:06.800 It's a question a lot of people ask, and I'm always like, I guess it makes sense to ask because it's an interesting facet of my life at the moment, but also kind of, you know, I find it's a when I answer it, people go, oh, like the the tone people say when I tell them currently what my status is. 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:08.000 So I moved to Europe. 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:12.160 This was like now three years ago, probably, and I loved living there. 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:16.160 I was living in Amsterdam, but you know, my work is here, my friends are here for the most part. 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:27.120 So I came back, and the truth is, given what I do, I have work opportunities in New York, I have work opportunities in LA, and especially when I'm on tour, you know, I'm bouncing from city to city. 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:31.199 So the truth is this I don't necessarily want to move back to New York or LA. 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:39.360 I will go back to a city if work comes through for me in one of those places, then, you know, it opens me up to being able to like move where I need to move. 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.000 But at the moment I'm in Miami, which is where I was born and raised. 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:45.279 So Miami is where, like you could call it my base at the moment. 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:49.600 But yeah, I was in London last month for work, working with BBC for like three weeks. 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:55.120 So, you know, it allows me not to pay double rents, which for me is a cost-cutting measure. 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:56.160 So I enjoy it. 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.600 And you get a lot more family time because you're with your parents right now, right? 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:02.399 Well, right now, but that's changing within probably two weeks. 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:02.639 Yeah. 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.480 I'm only like just because that sounds, and again, it's a loaded question. 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:08.720 And even to open with it, we'll unpack later. 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.759 But I'm here for like three days before going on tour. 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.399 So it's

my storage is here, you know, not in their house. 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.279 Obviously, I have a separate unit, but I am staying, but it's not healthy for me. 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.920 So that is shifting extremely soon. 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:26.160 But listen, it's free to stay here for three, four days versus throwing money at some residents in for four days and then moving on. 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:27.439 So, you know, it works for me. 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:29.680 I love seeing all your your content with your mom. 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:30.639 I think she's hilarious. 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.160 I love that you guys are so close. 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:32.800 Thanks. 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:33.120 Yeah. 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.839 I want to go back to Michelle in the 90s. 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:37.040 We're we're similar in age. 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:38.240 We're just a couple years apart. 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.800 What were the 90s and early aughts? 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.199 Describe Michelle in those days. 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.519 Oh, um, this is a very serious interview. 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:46.720 Describe Michelle in those days. 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:51.519 Well, I was in high school and college, you know, I went to high school here in Miami, North Miami Beach. 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.279 And um, I was funny. 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:54.720 Like I just, what did I do? 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:56.319 I was in speech and debate in high school. 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:57.600 I love talking about forensics. 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.600 I don't know if you did anything like that, Kyle, because I know you're also pursuing your own hosting dreams. 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.319 But uh yeah, it was a lot of fun. 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:05.279 I had great friends. 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:11.199 I'm actually seeing my one of my dearest friends from high school later today for lunch at Bell Harbor because we're ladies who lunch now. 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.040 So nice to have friends for, you know, 35, however many years. 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:16.399 But that was me. 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:21.120 And then I went to college in New York and I was uh at Barnard College, highly controversial school. 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.360 It's uh in Morningside Heights. 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.600 And listen, I was just always this person. 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.560 Like I always loved to make friends talk to people. 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:33.519 You know, I mean, I was tall, I was loud, I love to sing, I love musical theater. 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:38.480 And so that is pretty much many of the facets of my personality kind of unpacked for you, I think. 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:42.159 Were you always told that you were so quick-witted and sharp? 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:43.519 Did you realize that in a young? 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.639 Because then you are like, Yes, I have always been told. 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.159 It kind of

intellectualizes it in a way that makes me uncomfortable, to be honest. 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.480 But did you did you understand that that was a skill? 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.000 Like it was a comedic skill. 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:57.840 Yeah, I mean, I think, well, sure, right? 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.159 Like if someone's a good singer, they know that they're a good singer. 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:01.600 Like it's something, it's not even a skill. 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:02.879 It's like I enjoy doing it. 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.960 I believe I was put here to do this, you know? 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:11.039 So I was just pursuing what made me happy, and that was like acting, singing, doing comedy, those kind of things. 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:20.720 But stand-up really only started, and I always give her credit for this because uh the one of the funniest people I've literally ever known in my life, Chelsea Peretti, was in my improv group at Barnard. 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:22.480 I mean, it was uh called Six Milk. 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:28.399 So it was like the Columbia University group that they just took pity on us, women's college girls, and like allowed some of us in. 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.120 And Chelsea was really the reason why I started doing stand-up. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.360 So she always gets my flowers for that. 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:38.480 Did it start as a like a random open mic or did you write a full five minutes to get on stage? 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:39.039 What do you mean? 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:39.919 What was your first time? 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:40.639 I don't know. 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.840 I mean, I I'm sure it was some shitty, I think it was like in a basement. 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:45.840 I feel like there was like a Vietnam vet there. 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:47.200 And I'm not saying that for laughs. 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:52.960 Like genuinely, I remember there being like one guy who looked like Lieutenant Dan and like two other people, and I was like, let's do it, you know? 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:54.320 And it was fun back then. 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.679 I mean, I I don't know what the underground scene in New York is like these days. 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:02.399 I'm sure it's probably 10 times better, but this was like back when UCB was a big thing, you know. 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.399 So it was uh no, I I at the time used to like write my jokes out. 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:12.879 Now I much prefer to get up and have like ideas in mind, but like kind of uh perform on the fly. 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:13.840 For me, it's more enjoyable. 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:15.200 Yeah, I was we mentioned it. 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:16.639 I was a big VH1 boy. 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:17.440 Best week ever. 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:19.440 You were the managing editor for several years. 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:25.360 What were uh, I guess if you could pinpoint some some really big highs and the the lows of

that era for you? 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:26.639 I enjoyed it every week. 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.039 It was a different era having those like recap shows. 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:29.919 Yeah, I don't know. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.360 I don't want to like focus on the negative. 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.279 I feel like that was one of the best jobs I've ever had. 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.039 I was so lucky to work in media and I loved the people I worked with. 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.519 I'm still very dear friends with many of them. 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:45.919 I consider probably some of my closest friends in New York, including my friend Norman Baker, who I'm sure you know, who was Wendy's producer for many years. 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.000 I'm at Norman working at Best Week Ever. 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.480 It was like one of the best jobs I've ever had. 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:58.399 I mean, it was at a time when we were allowed, you know, the time of Perez Hilton, we were never vicious like Perez was, because I never found Perez funny. 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.039 I mean, we our goal was to be funny about celebrities. 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:07.679 So anyone who remembers the show Best Week Ever, you know, we were giving Britney Spears shit and like, you know, it was at the time she shaved her head. 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:08.559 I mean, now I cry. 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:09.279 I love Britney. 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:10.639 I'm the number one Britney fan. 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:14.080 So I look back thinking, like, wow, we were so harsh. 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:28.159 But I actually kind of miss those days because I do think we held celebrities accountable in a different way than we do today, where today it seems like there's like no humor revolving around celebrities, which I think is really dangerous because we give them a little bit too much power, in my opinion. 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:28.720 I agree. 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.399 I've spoken with some comedians who were regulars on like the Chelsea Lately show. 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:40.159 And they were like, it was such a different time, and the the comedy was maybe considered mean uh nowadays, but like no one had a problem with it back then. 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:43.600 So it's weird to backtrack 20 years later and be like, oh, that was unacceptable. 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:45.600 It was it was a different time, but I I enjoyed it. 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.200 Yeah, that's everything in comedy, right? 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:52.159 Like you can rewind the clocks and people are pissed, and it's like sometimes they're right to be, you know. 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.919 But again, we live in like current times, so I don't know how to put it. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:56.320 But yes. 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.879 I mean, luckily none of those archives exist, thank God. 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:00.000 So not that we did anything. 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.759 Again, it was like for a network station. 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.360 So we were not Perez, but we were definitely giving them shit in a way. 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:12.480 But I gotta say, like it was, I couldn't imagine a better job to like sharpen your comedic skills than being able to like be funny every day and write about these people, you know? 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:13.200 I agree, yeah. 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:13.840 I enjoyed it. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:22.960 And then throughout it all, were you the comedian that would like at night, after your day job, go and work your stand-up sets in different clubs and show up at the comedy cellar and stuff like that? 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:33.519 No, I mean, first of all, I should add that before I worked at and I want to just apologize in advance because this feels like James Liptany, and I I can tell that I'm not being funny on this podcast because it's a little AE biography. 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:35.759 So I'm just letting everyone know I am a funny person. 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:36.960 No, you're hilarious. 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:38.960 It's making me very serious. 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:46.879 It's making me very serious because I'm like unpacking my career in a way that feels like a little self-serious, and I want people to know that's like so not who I am at all. 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:51.519 So please understand I am I'm just being a guest and I'm answering questions. 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.360 But anyway, um, I worked as a legal secretary for I want to keep it light and fun. 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:02.639 You know, I worked at as a legal secretary for many years after graduating for college, and that job really allowed me to do stand-up because I was done at 5 p.m. 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:03.440 every single day. 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:04.480 So 5 p.m. 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:09.919 I would leave and I never did the clubs, which I was always more like the alt scene of comedy. 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.279 I mean, there was a place at the time called Rafifi, I think on 11th Street. 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:23.600 And so that really allowed me, but I never did, to be honest, I regret it a little bit not being more in like the comedy seller side of stand-up because I think that it's how do I put this? 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:36.960 Like there's a certain level of skill you get when you go to stand-up comedy clubs where the audiences are like less supportive, I would say, than they're at, let's say at a Joe's pub, which is where I normally perform, where it's like warm and inviting, you know. 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:38.159 I don't know how to put it. 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:46.080 I was just always kind of doing the more storytelling side of stand-up than like male-dominated side of stand-up. 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.559 Because those clubs for me were very male. 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:57.919 And, you know, if you weren't like some skinny girl with, I'm not trying to denigrate any woman who performs there because they're

better than me, okay, but I'm just saying that it was oftentimes hard. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:05.120 And I had this happen to me early in my career where if, you know, sexually you didn't satisfy someone, you were not going to move up in those ranks. 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:06.639 I learned that kind of early on. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:10.559 And that just was not I I if you saw these men, you would get it. 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.559 Like it's just it was not worth it to me. 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.240 Too many fedoras, you know what I mean? 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.240 I had a fedora-free policy in my apartment. 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.080 So that's where we were at, you know, and I never, I never did the comedy cellar in my life. 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:21.279 I would love to, by the way. 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.559 It's uh I one of my dreams actually to perform there, honestly. 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:35.840 Well, it reminds me, I interviewed Kathy Griffin a couple weeks ago, and she said like 20 years ago, she played her first show in DC, and it was like one of those basement, the DC improv shows, and she did the two shows a night, so like five shows that week. 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:38.320 And she was like, That I realized I didn't like clubs. 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:39.600 It was very male-dominated. 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.200 It was hard to like find your footing. 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.279 And she was like, I prefer a theater, something a little more her people. 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:49.120 And that was actually one of my next questions because you you've always been like that. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:50.480 You like your residencies. 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.720 Even when you came to DC, you played the Birchmere, not like the improv or one of the comedy clubs. 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.279 Like such a great dinner theater type of place. 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:00.639 So you've always that's always been your scene, and not doing five shows in a weekend. 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:01.519 Definitely not. 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:07.440 And and again, I envy comics who do do that because I do think that it is, it creates a different performer. 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.279 Like you're a little bit more maybe defensive. 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:14.159 You get heckled more often, you know, those kind of things, which do make you, I think, a more confident performer. 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:15.600 But by the way, love the Birchmere. 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:16.720 Were you at that show, Kyle? 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:17.360 I was. 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:19.039 Kyle is a real fan. 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.399 He's passed my test. 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:24.480 You shouted out all the gleep heads. 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:25.440 I did. 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:25.919 I did. 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:26.720 Remember how many? 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.399 Um, weren't there a lot of like uh not endometriosists? 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:30.879 What is the word? 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:31.600 Etymologist? 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.919 Like there was some, there was some kind of scientist. 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:36.879 Like high-end, really smart people in that audience. 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.000 Disease specialists. 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.159 It was like all the DC disease specialists were there. 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.679 I was like, is there something I should know? 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:53.840 But I also think, and Kathy is a great example of this, that when it comes to our audiences, which are mostly women and gay people, it just feels like warmer when you go into a place like the Birchmere or a Joe's pub. 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.639 It's a little bit pay perhaps more high-end, a little more elegant. 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.240 You know, I wear gowns in my show. 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.720 I just can't picture myself in a gown at the comedy cellar. 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.840 I mean, maybe it's been done, but it just doesn't gel for me, you know? 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.600 So that's that's where it falls. 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:07.840 But yeah, it's um something I do wish I had done. 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:08.960 Thank you for sharing that. 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.919 And thank you for for dealing with my highs and lows. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:13.200 I say we go deep and shallow. 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:20.639 So I am a journalist, so I was like, I didn't want to catch you off guard at 10 in the morning with like and came in so hot. 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:22.720 I'm like, okay, you know, my parents are listening to every word here. 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:24.559 So it's they're literally back there. 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:29.120 No, and of course I know you're the most hilarious, but I I get serious sometimes too. 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:29.919 But we'll lighten up. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:30.159 Thank you. 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:31.360 No, and I love being serious. 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.240 I just want people to know, like opening with that, like it's, you know, this is I I don't take myself that seriously. 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:44.639 Like it's kind of humiliating having to unpack your comedy career when it's like I there's so many more great things to do in my life. 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:46.320 Like I look back, I'm very lucky. 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:47.279 Don't mistake me. 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:54.080 I'm just saying, like, I, you know, the reverence uh is hard for me to kind of sign on to because it feels a little bit like scary to do that. 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:54.960 But yes, anyway. 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:56.320 Well, I revere you. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.080 Uh and I love you for it, Kyla. 00:16:58.240 --> 00:16:58.799 It's why I'm here. 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:00.320 Let's get to your new tour. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:01.039 Yes. 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:02.639 Uh, I'm really excited about it. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:04.000 In big letters tour. 00:17:04.160

--> 00:17:05.759 You're going to several new cities. 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:07.200 So I saw your last tour. 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.519 Is it similar in that you I know you love visuals, incorporating slideshows? 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:12.880 You sing sometimes. 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:14.400 Tell us about the doom material. 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:14.960 Yes. 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.160 So I did you see the show with the childhood slides? 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:18.960 Were you with that one? 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:20.319 Or are you with the last last tour? 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:21.920 When I came to DC, probably. 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.039 In DC. 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.319 And then yes, I also saw you when you toured with Queer Eye. 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:28.079 Oh, that was a fun show. 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:29.599 They're the they're so sweet. 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:31.039 We had a great time on that tour. 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:35.680 Um, so the new tour and the new show, which I have done in LA and New York already. 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:39.599 Yes, I do use slides because I have debilitating ADHD. 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.960 It's one of the, like, and again, you can see everything was hard for me. 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.680 Like three hours in that theater, I was just like, we need to end this. 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.279 This just can't be my life. 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:52.640 So I need the slides to kind of keep me in line with like the outline and the stories I'm telling. 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.400 Plus, I have it as visual punchlines. 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:57.200 This show is like, I would say, more personal than the last one. 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:03.839 I discovered a lot of childhood photos and teenage photos because a lot of people wonder like, how does a woman like myself get made? 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.599 How does this golem get shaped? 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.400 You know, what factory settings went into this? 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:21.519 And a lot of those pictures, which were honestly hard for me to kind of go through because, you know, I think everyone has stuff in, if you're a comedian, especially, you have things in your childhood that like you feel shame about, or in my case, I was bullied growing up, you know. 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:26.319 So looking back at those photos from these times wasn't easy because I hate to say it. 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:27.599 Sometimes I side with the bullies. 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:28.400 I'm like, you know what? 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:29.039 I get it. 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:29.920 We're right. 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:30.880 The bullies were right. 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:32.000 I'll say it here on your show. 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:42.720 So I sh I talk about that a little bit and kind of talk about shame and uh bodies and just weight and a lot of, I mean, it sounds so like Kathy comic strip as I'm talking. 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:43.440 I'm like, what? 00:18:43.519

--> 00:18:44.400 I'm changing my show. 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:44.799 That's it. 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:46.000 Changing the tour. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.039 No, but I also tell funny stories just uh in life in general. 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:53.519 A lot of audience work, no, nothing mean per se, but it's a lot of callbacks. 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:54.400 It's very quick. 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:56.319 I don't really breathe when I perform. 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.559 And I don't think I realized that until I recorded my shows in LA and I was watching the footage. 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.839 And I was like, how do people even understand what I'm saying? 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:14.079 Like, I speak so quickly because my thoughts are running so fast from the adrenaline of just being up there and keeping tabs on every single thing going on in the audience. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:21.680 And I think if you have ADHD, you know, and especially combined with whatever traumas I'm dealing with, you know, we're following everything in the room. 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:28.480 There is like not one a noise in the background, a light flickering, whatever it is is going to be incorporated into that show. 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:29.839 And it's a mile a minute. 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.640 So know that if you come see me, it's sort of relentless, but I I think it's enjoyable. 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.559 And for those who like quick things, you know, I think you'll get a kick out of it. 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:39.039 You will. 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:39.680 It's so quick. 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:45.920 I remember in the shows I saw, you would you'd do callbacks to like audience members from 10, 15, 20 minutes ago and checking in. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.799 It was this how it was all just kept in your brain, everything throughout the room. 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:49.920 It's it's it's a big scale. 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:56.559 It's a true men, it's um taking advantage of my mental illness, and I'm not that's the most serious thing I'll say on your show. 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.119 And, you know, listen, but it's I love it. 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.559 Like, listen, I love podcasting, I love live TV. 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:05.119 I mean, it it has a lot in common with live television, right? 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:09.359 Because it's like you are on the spot, it's happening now, everything matters. 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:16.160 And to me, like walking that tightrope of being on stage or being on live TV is it doesn't get more exciting for me. 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:16.799 I love that. 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.880 So I love performing and I recommend you go to Michelle CollinsComedy.com. 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:24.160 Uh, I'm in, I think, 10 cities, possibly adding more. 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:26.559 We're performing in San Francisco, which is exciting. 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:37.279 And funny enough, Brian Safi is opening for me in Philly, in Buffalo, and then

my friend, also genius Dylan Carlino, will be with me in Atlanta and Houston, which is on December 29th. 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:38.480 So just fun. 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:39.279 Come and hang out. 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:42.319 I think I'm gonna go to the Philly show because that's the that's the closest to DC. 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:43.759 It's see, it's only a two-hour drive. 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:44.319 So I'm gonna go back to the city. 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:46.240 Well, off record, I'll give you tickets. 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:50.319 But um, tell your listeners to buy the tickets and they're not expensive and come get drinks. 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:51.519 Plus, the crowds are fun. 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.759 Also, my can I say something in all seriousness? 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:54.799 I want to get this on record. 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:56.319 This is gonna sound very cocky. 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:02.799 My fans are so good looking that sometimes I go on stage and I'm like, why is this not? 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.240 Is this like sponsored by Grindr? 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:05.440 Like, what's going on here? 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.680 Some of them I go in and I'm hot, like they're so hot, it's distracting. 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:11.920 And I'm like introducing people to other people. 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:18.000 So if you're single or perhaps in a loving relationship and just want to know what's out there, come to the shows just to get a peek. 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:21.759 Cause Kyle, I mean, if you'll add to that stock in Philly, I'm telling you. 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:23.119 Well, thank you. 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.960 And it's obviously a diverse crowd, but there are many gay men in your crowds. 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:28.799 I I mentioned many at the top of the show. 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:33.920 Like, can you just talk about your relationship to the LGBTQ community and specifically gay men? 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.160 Cause I feel like any gay men that I talk to that says they love you, then I love them. 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:39.440 That's my kind of gay man. 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:40.240 You know what? 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:59.759 I think that there, and I'm gonna actually this is gonna sound terrible, but I'm gonna bring the bullying conversation kind of back into this because I think that when you're a child who has overcome things or were not popular at a certain time in your life, it creates sensitivities and humor that I don't think people who did not expect. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.759 Experience that can relate to. 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.279 And for me, I was tall, I was loud, awkward. 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:06.960 I changed schools in the fifth grade. 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.039 I had a lot going against me, cut my hair short. 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:10.079 We talk about that in the show. 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:10.799 Shorter than this. 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:11.920 This is like Rapunzel. 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:12.480 You should see. 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:13.519 Don't ask. 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:15.440 I mean, don't even ask. 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:17.519 I look like Regis Vilman, okay, in the sixth grade. 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:19.920 And I'm like, it's weird that people didn't like me. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:31.279 But I do think that that kindness, I think it is actually like an inherent kindness and dare I say people-pleasing thing too, in a way that really it's the warmth that I just love. 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.519 And I will say that I am so lucky. 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.920 And I literally thank, I'm not religious, but I will sound so religious. 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:49.920 I like thank God that these are my fans and that this is what I've been given in my life because and it goes not just gay men, the entire LGBTQIA plus community and and the women who also are fans, they bring their husbands. 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.680 And I will say the husbands enjoy the show. 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:53.359 The straight husbands will enjoy it. 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:55.359 They're just not, they don't know about me. 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.039 Like they're not exposed to me in any way. 00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:58.720 So they're sort of like on the outs. 00:22:58.799 --> 00:22:59.920 But I'm very lucky. 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:02.319 And I um I don't know what else to say about it. 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:03.680 It's just they're the funniest people. 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.319 Like you want to know who's funny and look at who gay men find funny. 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:07.839 That's gonna be your tell. 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.000 And so it's uh makes me feel good. 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:10.319 Yeah. 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:13.119 How often are you generating new material? 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:22.240 Are you a big journaler, writer, keeping stuff on your notes app, or is it it's a lot of it is off the cuff, obviously maybe bullet points, but are you not a long form writer in that sense? 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.480 No, Kyle, I'm sure not. 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:31.200 Um, as you know, I record four to five episodes of my podcast a week, which is and edit them and publish them. 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:36.640 Like I'm essentially working in a me sweatshop, like a sweatshop that I made for myself about me. 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.240 It's kind of like hell. 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:58.559 So the amount of material and content that I have to spew on my podcast kind of undercuts my stand-up a little bit because sometimes there are stories that I just know will be fucking great on stage, and I have to like bite my fist to not tell it on my podcast and hold it for stage because one thing with me is that once I tell it on the podcast, it's done. 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:00.400 I I have to have new stuff. 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:04.400 I really don't like retelling stories unless they're your true classics. 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:05.839 Like I don't

like to revisit. 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:10.079 So, and truth be told, I have a terrible memory, so I usually forget them anyway. 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.160 So, leading up to a show, I usually tell stories that happen in the weeks leading up. 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:18.160 Like I'll open each city with new stuff, perhaps from that city. 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:26.240 They're TJ Maxx, I'm a big bargain person, you know, like their Nordstrom rack, whatever it is, and uh then lead into kind of the bigger stories. 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.640 But yeah, I don't, I never write stuff. 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:30.480 It kind of takes the fun out of it for me. 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:31.519 And that's pretty rare. 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.880 It's pretty brilliant because you're generating new material every single day. 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:41.279 You could easily cull through a week's worth of podcasting, be like, this will be in the new set, new set, but you're just you forget about it. 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.799 But it's at least it's all on audio we can go back and visit because it's so funny. 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:45.599 All of that every day. 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:47.200 I'm like Beethoven. 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:53.519 Like, once I go, they're gonna blow the dust off of those old like episodes and be like, she was a genius. 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:54.960 Like that's my hope. 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:58.960 Because it's not happening now uh live, but yes, it's it's a lot of stuff. 00:24:59.119 --> 00:24:59.599 But it's fun. 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:00.799 I love doing the podcast. 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:02.000 You have to come co-host, by the way. 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:02.960 I don't know why that's not happened yet. 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:04.160 Oh my gosh, I would love to. 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:04.559 Yeah. 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:06.480 What about life on the road? 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:09.119 Because you've toured, you've toured with queer eye yourself. 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.680 Are there any comforts or practices to keep saying? 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.200 Are you the type to just go airport, hotel, venue? 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.960 Are you traveling in a van, a bus? 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:17.839 That's so funny. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.119 Can you imagine me on a bus? 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.519 I can you literally imagine me on a bus. 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:23.920 Like, I I and I love the bus. 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.160 You know, in London, I'm the biggest bus head. 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:32.880 Like I I love, and I'm so annoying on the bus in London because you know they say it's such a polite city, despite all the phone theft. 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.359 And every time I get off the bus, I go, thank you, driver. 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:37.039 I'm so unbearable. 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.720 Like, but that's what they do. 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:42.160 They say thank, especially the older generation, they always say thank

you to the driver. 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:46.400 And I'm you've never seen a more annoying person than me going, thank you, driver, and like the door is closed. 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:48.000 They speed off, mud hits me. 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:50.559 Anyway, I do not take a bus. 00:25:50.720 --> 00:26:03.039 In this case, I'm taking flights, and I'll tell you, Kyle, and this is something I'm embarrassed to admit, but I am so close to hitting the top tier of United status next year. 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:04.079 This close. 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:06.480 And the one thing that's holding me back are the legs. 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:14.880 Like you have to, I've never been this close, and so now that's how I'm trying to learn about how am I gonna get to this one case status, which is the nirvana of United Status. 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.039 And you have to just basically take connections. 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.160 Like every flight, you gotta connect in Houston and take the connection. 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:28.799 So something about this tour that I think people should know is your girl is on connections, missed connections, New York Times connections, every leg of the race. 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:30.799 I'm in an amazing race nightmare. 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:32.000 Will they lose my bag? 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:34.720 Which, you know, I have some props, as you know, in my show. 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:36.480 Maybe, maybe they will lose my bag. 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:37.200 We'll see. 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:43.039 But uh I am flying on United essentially to every single city. 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:50.240 And then the other thing is, you know, I didn't know this, but a lot of Troy and comics, what they'll do is they'll book like the cheapest hotel because they're just like, well, you know, otherwise you lose money. 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.039 Why pay 500 bucks a night to make a thousand? 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:54.480 Like, doesn't make sense. 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:57.440 I am not a snob with hotels at all. 00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.519 In fact, I love like a good airport hotel. 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.759 Something about me, I need a good bed, good lighting, and a full-length mirror. 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:04.319 That's it. 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.960 I don't need all, you know, Mumford and Son's interior decoration. 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:14.160 I don't need pipe exposed pipes, like I don't need any of that stuff or like Soho 50 shampoos, none of that. 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.799 But I also am not gonna stay in a day's end, unfortunately. 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.039 So I don't I hope that no one who works there is listening to this. 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:25.039 But yes, I so I'm doing like slightly nicer, shitty hotels, if that makes sense. 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.279 And yeah, it's gonna be draining. 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.480 I'm nervous on an energy level and also keeping up with the podcast. 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.759 Like I'm nervous about what this is gonna take out of me, but I've done it before. 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:34.559 I'll do it again. 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:38.480 I'm really excited Brian and Dylan are coming to some of the shows, and I'm excited to see everyone there. 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:39.920 Like it's that's when it's fun. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.119 The show itself is the best part. 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.759 It's the travel that makes it, you know, draining and hurt. 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.279 Yeah, it's gonna be great. 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:50.480 And then you you mentioned like shittier, nicer hotels, but yeah, you love to shop also. 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:51.200 You just mentioned it. 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.039 Like you're a huge department tour person. 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.039 You're not a big spender in that sense. 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:56.240 You're not shopping upper class. 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.480 So it sort of goes along with the hotels, right? 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:00.799 Yes, that's a wonderful point, Kyle Ridley. 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:01.599 It is true. 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:05.039 I am a I'm a designer discount person. 00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:05.680 Yes. 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:12.160 So I love, like, well, they closed them now, but I love that last call, Neiman Marcus, which are now done. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.839 So now it's moved into off-fifths. 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:15.279 They all know me here in South Florida. 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:22.000 There's not an off-fifth that my size 11s have not trounced through like truly like storming Normandy. 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:28.000 I go into those stores with a goal, and I'll be honest, is that they have so much merchandise now that I'm overwhelmed. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.279 And I am someone who's, by the way, some of the racks, I'm six foot one, right? 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.079 Talk about getting underarm, like working this part. 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.960 I'm moving gowns, beaded, Oscar de la Renta's, and they're like higher than my head. 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.720 And I'm going, how is a woman who's like normal five, five, how are they looking at this stuff? 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.359 I don't understand the physics of how they shop. 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:46.880 That being said, I do love it. 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.640 I have an addiction to discount shopping. 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:49.839 It's what gets me out of the house. 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.160 I go to TJ Maxx, I go to Home Goods. 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.039 Is it healthy? 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.519 I really don't know if I'm ready to answer that, to be honest. 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:56.799 I really have to think that over. 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.440 Probably not. 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.960 Well, I've been listening to you for years, and it seems to come up every single week on the show, every city you're in. 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.279 So are you constantly

purging and donating and just replacing? 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:08.160 I am, yes. 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:09.519 I donate a lot, which I do love. 00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:10.480 I'm not a hoarder. 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.319 That should be, I don't think I am. 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:13.279 I love getting rid of stuff. 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.759 In fact, I have a bag behind me that I'm taking today to donate. 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:17.279 So I get rid of things. 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.759 But also let me add that I'm not like a normal person. 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:20.960 Like I have to have looks. 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.920 If I'm doing something on camera, I need on-camera things. 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.680 If I'm photographed, you need dresses for that or looks for that. 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:29.119 I'm traveling a lot. 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.880 I just feel like I need more things than a regular person, I think. 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:33.839 Maybe I'm crazy. 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.680 Maybe that's all women, especially, who do that. 00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.880 But, you know, I'm always looking like I'm doing watch what happens in the upcoming weeks. 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:46.400 And like I like to get looks in advance so that I'm not scrambling two days beforehand finding some slut dress to impress Andy with, you know. 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.000 So I think I have a good one this time. 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:48.799 But it's just fun. 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:49.440 I enjoy it. 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:50.720 It's a way for me to unwind. 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:52.079 It doesn't cost me that much money. 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:53.519 Like I'm fairly good about it. 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.920 Sometimes I'll sell the stuff on the real, real, make money. 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.519 Most of the time I lose money, but you know, it's like the stock market with stuff basically. 00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:01.279 Are you a Marshalls fan? 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.079 That's a really hard one to answer. 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.400 Because I know here's the crazy thing about Marshalls. 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:07.920 I could talk about this all day. 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:09.279 You really opened up a can of worms. 00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:10.559 Big mistake, by the way. 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:17.279 I know that it's the same owners as TJ Maxx, but I cannot, for some reason, get into Marshalls. 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.880 And I know that in some cities in America, Marshalls is the better version, like TJ's is beneath and Marshall's is better. 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:25.039 You tell me what city that is, and I will test it. 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.839 But I'll tell you that here in South Florida, I don't remember the last time I bought anything at a Marshall's. 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.079 It's a terrible thing to say because it's the same distributor. 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.200 It's like the same pot. 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:33.839 I get it. 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.119 I just don't like Marshalls. 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:35.920 I don't know what it is. 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:36.799 Why is that, Kyle? 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:37.440 Are you not in the middle of the case? 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:37.839 I don't know. 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:39.599 I prefer Marshall's to TJ Maxx. 00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.359 I think maybe in DC or Maryland, Virginia area, it might be the switch. 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:44.319 I don't know what it is. 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:45.759 Like, I mean, listen, I'm not gonna lie. 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.920 Did I get swindled by a TJ's this week? 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:48.400 Yeah. 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.079 I went to the one at Saugrass. 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.640 I saw a bag of treats called Jingle Crunch, and it looked like this is true. 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.319 It's in the other room. 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.480 There were six bucks a bag. 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.160 I'm telling you this to warn your listeners, and it looked so I was so hungry too. 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.359 You know when you're hungry and you're in that aisle full of stuff made God knows where. 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:10.160 And I bought three bags of Jingle Crunch because my thinking was the line was wrapped to the door. 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:15.119 I thought, if this is delicious, I'm gonna regret not having pulled in more jingle crunch. 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:16.000 So let me buy them. 00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.960 So I bought three bags, cracked it open, inedibly bad. 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.440 Gave one to the doorman of the building, one of the new ones. 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:22.160 I hope that. 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:24.559 And then I have one. 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:25.920 I told my mom, like, give it to someone. 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:28.480 I don't know who to give it to, but it's not good, so don't buy it. 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:29.519 Okay, moving along. 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:31.759 Moving along, and we're gonna go back to your career. 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.160 Uh, I love how you like to keep positive though. 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.920 You even if there are negative experiences, you you tend to, I'm the same way. 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.279 I like to remember the positive. 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:42.160 But you've worked with some really you've worked with icons. 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.680 I know I'm gonna touch on two right now. 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.640 You were a writer on Kathy Griffin's Bravo Talk Show. 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:47.759 That's 2012. 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.240 You were also a regular on the Wendy Williams show. 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:58.480 Anything that you learned from those two, Queens, and specifically writing for Bravo back in the day, because that was I remember those two seasons, and I love seeing you on that show. 00:31:58.720 --> 00:31:59.039 Thank you. 00:31:59.119 --> 00:31:59.359 Yes. 00:31:59.519 -->

00:32:13.599 Well, I worked on the first season of that show as a writer, and Kathy was very generous letting me be a guest on that show because initially when we launched it, which I thought was such a funny idea, and I hope she doesn't mind me saying it here, because in case it gets stolen, but it's, you know, whatever it is. 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:19.920 Initially the idea was that she would have just regular people on as guests, like it would be a late night show, but she would have civilians on. 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.920 And I I still think this is brilliant. 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:23.599 I don't know why this kind of hasn't been done. 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:30.319 I guess Ellen kind of did that when she would have games, you know, you pull people up from the audience, but literally celebrating someone as a guest on a show. 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:33.200 There was a guy who worked at the Santa Monica DMV named Jerry. 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:35.119 I only met him one time. 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.839 He is one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.400 He had a backwards Kang all hat on, read me to filth over my license plate. 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:43.440 Now I'll never forget it. 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:44.640 And we laughed and laughed. 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.359 And I remember I worked at Kathy and I was like, we gotta get Jerry on the show. 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.519 Jerry will kind of, you know what it reminds me of? 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:51.359 Uh, you saw Conan on Subway Takes. 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.240 It went viral. 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:58.000 And this woman, this woman went viral because I she's a bar owner, I believe, I think in Brooklyn. 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:04.799 But she was just a civilian who was, dare I say, funnier than Conan, rolled in, was like, you never see your kids, like this and that. 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:06.640 I'm not gonna repeat the whole exchange. 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:13.759 Most of the people in our lives, like just walking, are funnier than the professional comedians and cooler and more fun to be around. 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.599 So I'm all about celebrating those people. 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:25.279 I think Wendy was too, actually, because Wendy's audience, she was so blessed with the most fantastic audience, I think, who were so supportive of her and just got her. 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.480 Like they got that she was complicated and troubled and had overcome and made mistakes. 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.119 I mean, listen, I Wendy is one of my great idols in my life. 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:34.400 She's made plenty of mistakes. 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:39.119 She's done things that maybe I wouldn't personally do, but she was so herself. 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.480 She was so authentic. 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.240 And like you can't fake that. 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.240 I don't really know anyone who's doing it. 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:51.200

Maybe Drew Barrymore in a very different chapter, like a different department of pureness, because Wendy had a dark side, as we all know. 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.880 But yeah, God, I just miss that kind of a personality on TV. 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.079 Just like truly authentic and shady and funny. 00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:58.960 And that was funny. 00:33:59.039 --> 00:33:59.759 And Kathy, too. 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.799 Listen, Kathy is one of the reasons I'm a comedian. 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.279 And I'm sure you know because you grew up loving her too. 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.400 Like she's one of the greatest storytellers of our lifetime. 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.159 And I want to thank her here just for giving me that opportunity to work with her. 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:17.679 Cause I was very, I was hired by her personally, and I was very, very flattered by that and very excited to work with her. 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.519 So, Kathy, if you hear this, thank you. 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:20.400 Send her my love. 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:25.760 And similar to you, always, she's always generating new material and gets to cities early to generate new material. 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:27.199 It's yeah, it's a big skill. 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.159 No, she's a genius. 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.119 But Wendy, listen, I Wendy is like, I'll just put it this way. 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:39.360 Wendy has always supported me and has literally had no reason to, other than us being the same height, which is a big part of it, I think, because there's so few of us out there. 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.360 But I really, uh, really want to see her back. 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.280 And I just I adore her. 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:45.760 Adore. 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:46.320 Yeah. 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.360 Will you watch the new documentary being created? 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.079 You know, I maybe I guess I will. 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:53.599 I mean, I'm not gonna be on it. 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:54.719 Like, will I watch it? 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:56.639 If people are talking about it, yes. 00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:05.440 It kind of reminds me of like that Mary Cosby documentary that came out that like no one really watched because the truth is we love Mary so much that we're kind of like, can't we just have this? 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:06.800 Can't we just like Mary? 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.119 Like, I'm sure everyone has shit. 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.840 Like, and no one really talked about that documentary. 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.000 And I sort of think the same thing will happen with Wendy. 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:21.119 Like, I don't know, I think people just really hope for the best and see that she kind of got a raw deal in some senses, and we'll see about that. 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:21.679 I agree. 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.719 I love Mary too. 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.679 She's just to see what she's become of the last few years. 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:27.360 She's like the most powerful woman there. 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:27.599 Yeah. 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.840 Imagine her being the most sane. 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.000 Like, she's like, and poor Mary. 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:36.000 I mean, this season is so hard for her, but um, no, I I love her and I love that show. 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:36.480 Let's be honest. 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:37.840 Stronger than ever. 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.679 All right, here we go. 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:46.239 I do need to talk about how I fell in love with you mostly because I would DVR every single day watching you on the view. 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.119 Yes, 2015 to 2016. 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.119 You are on the panel with Whoopi. 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.440 It almost was like 2015 to 2015, funny enough. 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.599 But let's go with 16 for this podcast. 00:35:57.760 --> 00:35:58.079 Go on. 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:04.320 You were the 15th co-host, you, Whoopi, Joy, Paula Ferris, Raven Simone, and Candace Cameron Beret. 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.159 You were not part of the 25th season. 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.239 By the way, I want, just before we even get into this conversation, um, two things I'll say. 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.719 I love Whoopi, so that can be an overarching umbrella to this conversation. 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.039 And also, I don't watch the show. 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:18.880 So that's not shady. 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:20.960 And I always say that people think that sounds shady. 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:25.440 That's coming from an authentic place of I was blessed to have that job. 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:28.800 We can talk about it and you can ask me anything you want, but I was blessed to be there. 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.199 I I'm a pri I've always been a price is right girl. 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.440 I've always been a game show person, and that's just who I am. 00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.159 I watch British trivia shows literally every single day. 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.440 I put my VPN on, I watch Jeopardy, Wheel, Price. 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:40.480 I love game shows. 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.400 So I just want people to know, like, yeah, I I didn't watch the 25th season. 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:45.679 I wouldn't have anyway. 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.119 Listen, even if, but like I didn't watch it just because I don't watch that show. 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:50.480 So, but anyway, ask away. 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.079 So I can't really speak to any of that stuff. 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:52.480 Yeah. 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.079 I don't watch either anymore. 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.199 I stopped many years ago, but I did watch every episode that you were on. 00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:58.159 Thanks, babe. 00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:58.800 That's nice. 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:06.639 Uh and it's always in the news, but yeah, I remember that 25th season, and I I

remember they had past co-hosts like film videos of and you were in a different city, right? 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.480 Paris or something if you filmed, oh my god, I filmed the the quickest. 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.480 They were like, it was the first time I'd really heard from them in however many years, I guess five years. 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.360 And you know, listen, people please her, that's me. 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.199 And you know, I never spoke negatively about that show. 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:22.400 I could have, I didn't. 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.960 And so I was like, this is the olive branch we need. 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.199 And so I filmed in front of the Eiffel Tower at the super chic restaurant. 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:33.760 By the way, I remember a way to connect with the people, a way to connect with the average American. 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.760 I was like, let's do it in front of the Eiffel Tower. 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.119 But I was with my friend Lucas. 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:38.079 Hi, Lucas. 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:40.400 If you hear this, he is like the chicest person I know. 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:41.599 You would shit for him. 00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.239 He is so elegant and gorgeous in every way. 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:48.480 And he was my filmographer at this restaurant, no pun intended, called Giraffe. 00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.159 This is all true, you can Google it. 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:55.360 And we filmed me in front of the Eiffel Tower, and I thought, oh, I didn't know what they were going to use it for. 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.199 And I thought, well, I want to make it good for them to show them that like it's all good. 00:37:59.280 --> 00:37:59.840 You know what I mean? 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.159 I know that this is like the gauntlet, I get it. 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:08.880 And then I think I was like a one-inch size postage stamp in the very first episode's opening credits. 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.000 And I was like, you can't even see the Eiffel Tower back there. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:13.519 But yes, anyway, go on. 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:14.800 Oh my gosh. 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:15.519 All right. 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:24.880 Well, a lot has been made this year because it's the 30th season, and I had Rosie O'Donnell on my show, and she hinted that a lot of the hosts were gonna be back, and it became this big hoopla. 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.320 You did a video, page six. 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.079 A lot of outlets covered it. 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.519 Now, so far, Raven, Sherry, Lisa Ling have been back. 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:35.280 Candace Cameron was asked, but she said she didn't want to leave the state. 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:36.400 Uh interesting. 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.079 You don't expect to be asked. 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:39.280 You've said they're not going to. 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.599 No, listen, here's the truth, and this is real. 00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:45.440 First of all, I saw the video that you posted with Rosie, and I thought, oh, that's funny. 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.239 Because I here's the the honest to God truth. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.000 Like, I don't take it that seriously. 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:51.360 I know a lot of people really do. 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:52.079 I really don't. 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.679 And it's so funny because the comments are like, have some self-respect. 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.000 It's like, I'm doing this because I have self-respect. 00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:58.960 I don't think people get it. 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:00.000 Like, you know what I mean? 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.519 Like, I wouldn't be if I was truly still hurt by them or whatever. 00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:04.559 I'm so sensitive. 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:05.840 I would not be posting these things. 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:06.559 Please believe me. 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.039 I'm doing it because like I don't really care, is the truth. 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.039 And not shaming them. 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.480 Congrats on the 30th year. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:12.880 I get it. 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.800 But like, how am I supposed to care after 10 years of like essentially radio silence? 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.239 It's like, well, I get it. 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.159 You know, no hard feelings on my end. 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:20.960 Ish. 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:22.639 Um, ish. 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.480 I'm sure there are people there who don't like me. 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:25.360 I mean, who knows? 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.800 But, you know, I uh I saw the Rosie Cliff and I thought, oh, I knew I was going on tour. 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.559 I was in, God, I'm unbearable. 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.599 As I'm talking about myself, I'm like, I am genuinely the worst person. 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.679 I was in Milan, Italy in August. 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:48.320 And actually, I was going to meet Whoopi, funny enough, in Sicily, but then Mount Aetna, uh, cano blocked me and I couldn't get there because none of the flights are taking off. 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:55.519 But anyway, um, I I posted it because also because I knew at the time I was gonna see Whoopi like, and I love her, and she's like almost family to me. 00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:57.199 I mean, I love her family so much. 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.239 And frankly, if that's what I got out of this show, lucky me. 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.440 Like, who's luckier than that? 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:08.159 I mean, that I'm not stepping on at all, and I don't want that to be misconstrued because that is like such an important thing to me, and I I just adore them so much. 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.000 So I thought I'll make this video, it'll be fun. 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:11.519 And can I say something, Kyle? 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.880 Congrats to you for getting that clip with Rosie and

for getting her on your show. 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:20.400 And also, I would like some flowers too for getting it on the radar that this fucking reunion was even happening. 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:29.039 Because without this clip, I'm like, all these people reached out going, you know, we didn't even know it was the 30th anniversary until we saw the news covering you talking about it. 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:30.480 And I'm like, thank you very much. 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.800 So this is where the hubris shows through. 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.760 But yeah, you know, I posted that and then I saw that that got pickup. 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:49.280 And once we announced my tour, I was like, if the only thing I get out of being a view co-host for 97 seconds is that I can piggyback off of this anniversary year in any way to get a little bit of buzz, why shouldn't I do that? 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.079 I mean, that's I think that's like totally normal in this day and age. 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:53.920 So I posted another funny little video. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.360 I happened to be in London, England at the time, and I posted it. 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:02.719 And um, and it got picked up by page six, which, you know, I love getting picked up by page six. 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:03.679 I mean, who does it? 00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:05.199 It's so chic, it's so fabulous. 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:05.679 So, you know. 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.960 I'm still holding out hope because I think it's it's obviously more the fans that care. 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:16.960 It's I know it's brushes off your shoulder, but I just think we want you deserve more respect because we've been following you for so many years, and you were so dynamic on that show. 00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:18.159 That's how I fell in love with you. 00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:25.280 And that's really why I want them to acknowledge you because there hasn't been that many hosts over 30 years, and it wouldn't be hard to just have you back at the table. 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:26.159 You're hilarious. 00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:30.159 You're in the zeitgeist, you're touring, and people know who you are. 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:31.360 It's just like she's hilarious. 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:32.000 Put her back on. 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:33.280 I have just I don't understand it. 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:34.639 I don't think your fans understand it. 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:35.840 Well, I'll say this. 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.440 Thank you for saying that, first of all, and I just adore you so much. 00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.920 And for the fans, I'll go in two seconds. 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:48.159 They can put me in one of those hideous dresses they had me in 10 years ago, those matte jersey, Ralph Loren, knee length, whatever. 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.400 It was the only thing I think they could find that fit me at the time. 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.400 They can throw me in one of those and wheel me out, and I'd be happy to do it. 00:41:54.559 --> 00:42:03.760 Um, so yeah, for me, it would be great if yes, yes, no, no, I genuinely am spiritually free from the confines of this show. 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:05.519 And I really, genuinely mean that. 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:10.800 Um, which is why I do like having fun with them on it on Instagram, because like I know they're not gonna respond to me. 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.559 You know, so it's like whatever. 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.400 Like, you know, and it's all in good fun. 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.960 I don't think I've done anything that's like super bitter or anything else. 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:18.480 It's just kind of like to me, it's funny. 00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:20.480 And you're clearly allowed back at ABC. 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.480 I mean, you were just at dancing with the stars. 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:23.519 Oh my God. 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:23.920 I know. 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.800 Well, my friend Julia is crushing it there. 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:28.960 My God, her New York Times thing. 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:29.199 Yes. 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.280 No, I love, and by the way, love ABC. 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:31.840 And you know what? 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:32.960 Can I just put this out there? 00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:34.079 Forget the view. 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.039 I would like to be asked to do celebrity wheel of fortune or regular. 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.280 They don't even have to call me a celebrity, just wheel me out. 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:39.840 I mean, my God. 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:42.559 Oh my god, or Jeopardy. 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:43.920 So I just want to put that on record. 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:44.960 It's a true dream for me. 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:45.599 Anyway, go on. 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:46.559 Flip it. 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:48.400 Uh obviously, yeah. 00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:50.719 You host your podcast every single day. 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.719 You hosted Sirius for many years. 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.320 Uh with was it with Andy? 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:55.440 It was the last year. 00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.719 They kept kind of moving me stations because I was on uh stars at first, and then they closed that down. 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:01.920 They moved me to something else. 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.480 And then my last year I was there, I was on Andy. 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.039 And let me also just say, loved working in Sirius. 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.719 I don't have a bad thing to say about it, genuinely. 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:10.960 It's just the media landscape always changing. 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:17.119 When you sign on every day to do your podcast, do you arrive with just a clear head and no notes? 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.440 It's really just all off the cuff for the full hour. 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:20.400 What do you want me to say? 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.920 I mean, you don't wake up or you go to bed and be like,

we're gonna talk about that tomorrow. 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.119 It's because it that yes. 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:34.719 I mean, listen, for example, I had something happen to me just this morning, and I already recorded today's episode, but I know that come Thursday I'm gonna be I'm hosting a gala in Bermuda this weekend, please. 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.159 And so I'll be live from Bermuda this week. 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:43.840 And I have a very funny story, actually TJ Maxx related, that will be opening my show. 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:45.519 But you know, my show is very Seinfeld. 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.880 It's like things that happen to me during the day, uh, human interactions, the way other people behave. 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.079 I'm fascinated by that. 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.559 So I'd say like 30% of the show is that. 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.760 Then we talk Bravo, obviously, and my co hosts every day bring some funny things, but it's you literally never know. 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.039 Know what you're gonna get with my show. 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:07.440 Yeah, and a lot of it is about your interactions with people because you are would you call yourself, I guess, a people person or extrovert? 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.800 Because you love talking to people in line and just getting to know them and pick their brain. 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:11.920 Heaven to me. 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.119 Heaven to me. 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.320 Listen, I don't even know where to begin. 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:17.760 I truly love interaction. 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:18.960 I love interacting with people. 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:28.159 I'm an extrovert introvert, which is, and I'll be honest, actually, going back to your first question about being with my parents, not having a space of my own at the moment is slowly killing me. 00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:34.400 Like I need to be able to come home, be by myself, you know, watch my game shows and like shut down a little bit. 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.119 But I really love, I like making people smile. 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:38.239 I mean, I'm not coming through. 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:43.440 I always say with the Karen haircut, I call it the reverse Karen because I'm like, call the manager, I'm gonna compliment you. 00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.679 You know, that's like that's my haircut. 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.480 But um, I I enjoy making people's day and like bringing a little sunshine. 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:51.599 I love complimenting people. 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:53.039 I know that's really needy too. 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.079 I know that that like I get more out of it than they do in a way. 00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:00.159 But for example, if I see people working hard at their job, any job, I acknowledge it. 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.079 I go, I just I see you and just thank you. 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:03.920 Cause I don't think a lot of people stop to do that. 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.119 And there are a lot of people working for very little money who are working their fucking asses off, pardon my language. 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.320 And so I like to acknowledge that. 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.320 But maybe that makes me some sort of savior complex. 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:13.199 I don't know what I'm saying. 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:16.400 I just think be nice to everyone, be kind, and hope to get it in return. 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:17.360 Beautifully said. 00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:17.840 Thanks. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:22.239 Now, I feel like you should have several comedy specials because you're always generating material. 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.199 Are you gonna record this new hour? 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.119 Like you should be on streaming and have five under your belt by now. 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.199 Kyle, you're my only friend and congratulations, you're my new agent. 00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.280 I was waiting to tell you that. 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.679 I did actually record my shows in LA and thank God they were very funny. 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:44.320 I did wear a gown from um the Gwyneth Paltrow goop collection. 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.840 That is not, I wish I were kidding. 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:46.960 That is a true statement. 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.320 And I only noticed later on that it had a weird fold by the vagina. 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.000 So I'm parsing through how I'm gonna work around the fold. 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.320 It's not actually of my body part. 00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.639 It's like the way it pleats looks like that. 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.800 And I'm like, but that's me. 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.480 Like I'm never gonna have something go perfectly. 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:04.480 Something will always go wrong, something will be off. 00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.880 So uh we will definitely be releasing clips from that and hopefully turning that into something more. 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:10.320 But but thank you for saying that. 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:11.199 Can I be honest? 00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:29.679 I think that a lot of streamers are not comfortable with a comedian like myself when so much of it, unless you're like Matt Reif, I hate to invoke his name here, but I don't think they're comfortable, especially with a woman, of giving them the reins of freedom to be off the cuff and not know kind of word for word what's gonna happen. 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:35.440 Like have that safety net of material is that's maybe my own opinion, but from just my experiences. 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:35.760 But yeah. 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:36.079 Yeah. 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.519 Well, I've had well, Kathy and Phoebe Robinson and Heather Shaw. 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.360 Like a lot of comedians now are just putting their stuff on YouTube, their specials on YouTube. 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.480 It seems to be the way to go to own it and not have to deal with all the

network notes. 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.559 So once this tour is done, that's something we're gonna look into just because I don't want to like waste it just yet. 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:58.480 I want people to get it live, obviously, but it's something we're looking into, not to say it's for sure gonna happen, so still come to see the show live. 00:46:58.880 --> 00:46:59.519 Of course. 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.559 And over the years, you've also mentioned a lot. 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:04.559 Jokingly, you're like, I'm saving it for the memoir. 00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:05.679 I'm saving it for the book. 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:07.039 Is that coming? 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:08.639 Do you think you have a memoir in you? 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:09.599 Because we're waiting. 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.800 I have so many memoirs in me, Kyle, that I'm busting at the damn seams. 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:21.199 Here's here's like the sad truth about I okay, there is a very, I'm not gonna name him, but there's a very, very lovely guy. 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.199 I hope he hears this, who reaches out to me every three months, being like, please write your book. 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.000 And he works in this world and he's like, please write it, please write it. 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:32.559 And I'm like, listen, part of my charm is my severe mental illness. 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:33.599 I mean, that's just real. 00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.920 I'm I'm not medicated, I'm not an Adderall. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.519 I had Kelty Knight who just released a great book called The Fuck Them Theory. 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:40.480 Let's plug Kelty. 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:47.360 Kelty did my show, and she's just started Adderall, she's a little younger than I am, and was like, it changed my life. 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:48.480 It's why I wrote the book. 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.679 And can I be honest, I cannot find a quack doctor to give it to me. 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:52.239 And I need it. 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:57.360 Like I'm textbook ADHD from a young age, you know, like it is what it is. 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.000 It's part of, I think, why my comedy operates the way it does. 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.840 But I would like to write my book one day, Kyle. 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.679 So if any psychiatrists are listening, any quack doctors, reach out to me because I need that script. 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:10.400 I listened to that episode. 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.480 It was you're like asking questions. 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:13.280 That was very funny. 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.280 And she got diagnosed late, yeah. 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:16.400 She got exactly. 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:27.039 But a lot of women are not diagnosed young because we I hate to say it, but I mean I think that a lot of women who have this are smarter or we're just, you know, the brain is working completely differently than like a normal human brain. 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.599 And so we're like gifted kids and put in these smart classes and everything else. 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:36.079 But at this age, especially combined with other hormonal things, it's not a good combination. 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:37.920 And it can be, I think, quite overwhelming. 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.079 So yes, I'm working on it, Kyle, but thank you. 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:41.920 I'll ask you for a quote for the book cover. 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:42.559 So get ready. 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:43.199 I'll do it. 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:43.440 Yeah. 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.199 She dedicated her book to Adderall. 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.760 I remember She's hilarious. 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:48.480 I love Kalty. 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:48.719 Yeah. 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:49.840 Okay, a couple more things. 00:48:50.000 --> 00:49:01.119 Now I just want to get into every episode I ask all my guests the tangle, what they're currently tangled in, that they're loving, immersing themselves in, binge watching, reading, and then something annoying that they're working to get untangled from. 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:01.679 Ooh. 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:03.039 Oh, this is too deep for me. 00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:03.519 Okay, wait. 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.320 And this is pop culture or this is anything in life. 00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:07.280 Anything in life. 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.199 Well, obviously, you've touched on a lot of it. 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.239 You need to like move out of your parents' place and get your own space. 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.440 That's past tangling. 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:14.400 That's I don't even know the words. 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:15.840 Someone get Roger out here. 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.400 Like, that's an entwinement that uh yeah. 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:19.039 Let's see. 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:25.360 Well, I'm tangled in You know, I mentioned game shows earlier, and I do watch this British game show every single day. 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.320 They did bring it to the US, and actually, our friend from The View, who's lovely, Sarah Haynes, hosted it. 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.119 But I am addicted to the British version called The Chase. 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.159 I don't know if you've heard of the show or watched the American version. 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.320 I can't go a day without watching that show. 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:42.000 I actually, it's like how Rain Man had to watch Night Court or People's Court, whatever it was. 00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:43.360 You know how he was like People's Court. 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:48.239 If I don't see The Chase, if there's not a new episode, my skin, I'm like, I can't breathe. 00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:49.920 I need my quiz show. 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:50.960 It's like really sick. 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:55.360 And I don't know why it is, but I it's my soothing self-care kind of a place. 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.199 But what else am I really tangled in?

00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.079 Are you still doing the British podcast or the recaps? 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:00.320 Okay. 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:01.039 Yes, yes. 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:02.960 Uh, on the box for the BBC. 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.920 That's what I was in London working on an upcoming special for them, actually. 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:07.360 Uh, that's I love them. 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.519 They are, I just love English people. 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:10.000 You know what? 00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:11.519 Untangle me from English people. 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:12.320 This would be great. 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.039 Because so far I haven't gotten a visa to like live there. 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.800 I would move to London tomorrow. 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:20.800 And actually, this is another thing about where I'm living, is like I don't really want to live in New York. 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.239 I don't really want to live in LA. 00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:26.239 I'm from Miami, so it's very familiar to me, but do I really want to live in Miami? 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:26.559 No. 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.280 So I'm figuring out where I actually want to live. 00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:33.360 And until I do that, I'm just gonna be this sad girl at like a courtyard inn. 00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.039 But yeah, what am I tangled in? 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:36.320 I'm still answering your question. 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.440 Is it mainly reality TV or are you doing much scripted? 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:47.679 I just started the show War on um, I think it's on HBO with uh Sienna Miller, and it's pretty good. 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:49.840 I'm only one episode in, it's actually London-based. 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:55.840 So if you've never been to London or want to relive your heyday there, they're at some fantastic locations and it's a beautiful show. 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.280 But I'm reality all the way. 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.079 I watch um I'm into traders. 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.639 Uh, I cannot wait for the upcoming celebrity traders with our friend Casey Wilson on it. 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:06.880 Johnny Sibylli, like Bianca Del Rio. 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.519 I mean, it's every great person in the world is on this season. 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:10.400 Casey Wilson. 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:11.440 Wilson's book right here. 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:12.320 Oh my God. 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:13.599 What a great book, huh? 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:14.480 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.840 She shouldn't, I should text Casey and be like, Casey, how'd you do it? 00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.440 Casey and I, and she's uh talked about this on stage with me. 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.039 We also were both on Well Butrin. 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.960 That hasn't been enough to get me to write the book. 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.960 So I need to know what extra sweet sauce she had to do that. 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.280 Um Are

you watching all the housewives? 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:32.400 We have so many on right now. 00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:34.079 I'm watching Potomac. 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:39.119 I'm a little behind on Potomac, but uh Potomac, Salt Lake, New York is fantastic this season. 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.480 The new the new girls, yeah. 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:41.360 I'm loving it. 00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:45.119 And I'll tell you, I also love that Carol Radziwell, and I'm happy she's back. 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:46.159 I love her. 00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:52.159 When I interviewed, I interviewed Brittany Bateman a couple weeks ago, and she said her best friend is actually Haley from New York. 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:52.880 You're kidding. 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:53.280 Yeah. 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.360 They became best friends in the last year. 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:56.639 Well, okay. 00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:01.679 You know, I met Britney at BravoCon with Jared, and couldn't have been a nicer lady. 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.760 I mean, just really being serious, because a lot of those women, especially there, they get tired, this and that. 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.360 She was super friendly and very sweet. 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:08.639 I love Haley on the show. 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.920 I think Haley and Carol are why that show is good because they're funny. 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.199 You know, this is my point. 00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.880 You have to have a funny person on Housewives for the season to work. 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.679 So Potomac, I mean, everyone is pretty much funny on Potomac. 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.519 Like, you got Karen and Giselle there. 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:22.480 That's I'm happy. 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:23.039 We're good. 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:23.519 Go on. 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.360 My claim to fame is because I produced morning shows in DC for a long time. 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.400 I was the very first person to ever put Stacy Rush on camera. 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:31.440 You're kidding. 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.960 Yeah, she did like lifestyle mommy segments, yes. 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.719 And then she moved to traffic and then she went to QVC and yeah. 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:39.280 Wow. 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.360 Well, you have an eye for beauty because she's just one of the most beautiful women to ever walk the earth. 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.840 So, like, you know, you did the right thing. 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:46.559 She seems nice. 00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:47.360 I like Stacy. 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:48.480 She is nice, yeah. 00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:48.960 She's very nice. 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:51.519 And you're a big Salt Lake, Salt Lake girl. 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:53.280 Who's who's your favorite on Salt Lake? 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:54.960 Oh gosh, that's a tough one. 00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:02.480 You know, I love Bronwyn, but I'm seeing, I know he made a face because he you can't hear the face he made, but I saw it happen. 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:12.320 Here's the thing, and I I've met Bronwyn and she's very sweet, but we see this phenomenon happen a lot, and I'm not gonna name other names, of fan favorites who morph. 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:20.239 Something happens, it gets to the head, the ego gets full, and it's almost like, and I understand this psychologically, but it's almost like they can't stay normal. 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:28.639 All of a sudden, they lose the thing that was attractive about them, which is like being us and being one of us in that room. 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:33.679 And sometimes the egos get a little big, and I'm just hoping like we all wanted Bronwyn to leave Todd. 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:38.480 So I don't want to say, oh, my favorite version of Bronwyn was when she was with Todd because that's like anti-woman. 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:39.599 I don't want to say that. 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.119 But I just hope she keeps a level head, is what I will say. 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.199 Um, and and stays true to herself. 00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:45.519 Yeah. 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.719 I had Britney and Heather Gay on my show, and they both said Bronwyn will likely have the hardest time at the reunion. 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:51.679 She has the most to answer for. 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.679 You know what though, I see it this season. 00:53:53.760 --> 00:54:03.440 I I think that I what I hope isn't happening is that she thinks she's better than the other women, even whether that's true or not, it's not a good energy to bring into that room. 00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:11.760 And it's it actually, even if that's true and she's doing 50 million things and this and that, as the viewer, we don't want to see her lead with that because it feels icky, you know? 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:13.760 So I hope that that's not what's happening. 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:14.559 But I don't know. 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.519 So I mean, hypocrisy and yeah, I don't know. 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:18.480 I mean, she's pretty much. 00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:22.079 I downloaded that song, The Hypocrisy, and it's great 39 seconds. 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.000 By the way, it's one of the catchiest songs of the year. 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:28.320 I mean, we're not giving that song its flowers. 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.199 It's good. 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:29.840 Sorry. 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:30.480 It is good. 00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:34.079 I what I thought was funny is though is she released the single, It's just Lisa Parlow. 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:35.360 There's no Meredith credit. 00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:36.559 She's not in the song. 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:37.920 No, that's hilarious. 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.960 There's no manipulation, it's just her saying hypocrisy and bullshit. 00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:41.760 I'm bored. 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.119 Wait, I'm crying because I literally thought Meredith was the pitbull of that song.

00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:46.559 You know, where she's like on it, but not. 00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:48.480 You know, she's like in the part of it. 00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:50.960 Uh before we wrap up, you are in Florida. 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.960 Are you watching The Golden Life? 00:54:53.440 --> 00:55:00.559 Kyle Ridley, man of my dreams, sweetest podcast host I've ever met in my life, who's made me I'm getting Bronwyn head right now. 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.159 I'm leaving this podcast like Bronwyn. 00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:03.760 Like, I'm perfect. 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:05.920 I am not watching The Golden Life. 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:06.559 I'm sorry. 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.719 I and I love Luann especially. 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.559 I know Luanne, she's great, funny. 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:12.320 I just can't do it. 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:13.599 Love Dorinda. 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.519 You know, I like these girls, some of them. 00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.360 I just don't I don't have it in me. 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:17.920 Are you watching? 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.719 I watched the first episode and it was actually it was kind of sad. 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:26.400 Uh I liked a lot of the women, but the the state that Sonia is in right now is uh is a bit sad. 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.000 She seems to be really stuck in the past. 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:37.039 I'm sorry, now Sonia has been in that state for the past decade, and I actually think that she's one of the big reasons that that cast stopped working. 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:46.559 And uh like listen, alcoholism allegedly, because I don't want to, you know, uh I'll say that alcoholism for many housewives has been a recurring issue. 00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:51.679 It is something that, I mean, look at Shannon who had the I only bring her up because she has like legal things with the drinking. 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.519 I don't think it's an attractive quality. 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:58.320 And if you actually look at the ones that are on now, none of them are like drunks like that. 00:55:58.400 --> 00:55:59.760 And it makes for a better show. 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:03.119 I mean, you can just do so much until you have someone in the bushes again. 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:09.119 I don't find it funny, and especially at a certain age, my mother always said, Kyle Ridley, there's nothing uglier than a drunk woman. 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:11.760 And understandably, she hates Sonia. 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:12.960 And that's what I'll say about it. 00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:14.880 Like it, the act is old for me a little bit. 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:15.760 Well, it's really old. 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:26.159 If you watch the first episode, which she says she's sober for like six months, but they keep showing her drinking and she's slurring and she keeps saying this is virgin, this is a mock tail, and it she's out of it. 00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:27.760 It's it's a little sad. 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:28.639 We'll see what happens. 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:34.800 Um, before we go, I'd have two things, two people that always come up on my show, and I know you're fans of both. 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:35.119 Ooh. 00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:39.039 Alanis Morissette, my number one uh idol of all time, have tattoos of her. 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:39.920 You've seen her live. 00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:40.960 I saw you post about her. 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:42.159 Yes, I have plenty of tattoos. 00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:43.679 I'm going to see her next month in LA. 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:44.719 So cute. 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:45.760 Okay, I love that. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.119 Your relation to her. 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:48.639 I know you've posted about seeing her live. 00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:50.400 I've seen Alanis twice. 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.280 One time was at this is a great story. 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.920 So one time, I think, meanwhile, everyone's like falling asleep. 00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.960 I was studying abroad in Budapest, Hungary. 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:06.320 And to paint how old I am and also how sweet life happened to be, it was the summer before 9-11, upcoming title of my memoir. 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:07.360 It was 2000. 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.760 She did that world tour, and that's how big of a fan I am. 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.880 The summer before um we turned to 9-11. 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.880 That's my upcoming book title, anyway. 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.199 So I was in Nuremberg, Germany. 00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:18.880 Great place for a Jewish girl to be. 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.280 And I convinced two friends of mine to come with me. 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:22.480 And we had never camped before. 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:23.679 You know, I'm from Miami Beach. 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:24.800 Like, we don't camp in Miami. 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:25.360 It's swamp. 00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:26.480 We can't camp here. 00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:27.920 And so I was like, we'll be fine. 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.519 We'll bring um a hoodie and a pillow, and we'll be totally fine. 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.280 Like, no problem for this three-day festival. 00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:33.920 We get there. 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:38.639 It is people have generators, they've got IKEA builds under these massive tents. 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:39.920 And I'm sorry, I'm gonna say it. 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:41.039 Germans are assholes. 00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:42.639 We were sleeping on wet ground. 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.679 I woke up one morning, my hoodie was full Kenny from South Park. 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:47.119 It was just this was open, okay? 00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:49.280 To a man flicking cigarette butts at my head. 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:50.719 This is a true story. 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.039 That was the weekend I saw Alanis. 00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.519 And the reason we went is because Radiohead was there, and I still do

and loved Radiohead. 00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:59.679 So I was like, I dynasty Radiohead live. 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:00.559 So we saw them. 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.480 And my friend was like a big tool fan, she, which is not for me, but she went to see Tool. 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.159 But Alanis Outcast performed, I remember, and it was an amazing lineup. 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:09.360 Like it was just unbelievable. 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.599 And Alanis was one of the highlights of that weekend. 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:12.480 And then we had to sleep. 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.960 There was a torrential rainstorm in Nuremberg. 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:19.199 So we had to sleep in the nonstop internet tent, which caved in from the rain. 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.199 So this is how my weekend in Nuremberg went. 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.119 But Alanis was a true highlight, yes. 00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:25.280 Well, she's still spinning on stage now. 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:25.519 Yeah. 00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:28.960 She's, I gotta say, then I saw her in Amsterdam like last year, I think. 00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.840 And she's what, seven millimeters high? 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:33.199 I mean, she's so petite. 00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:34.880 Yeah, she's five, too. 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:35.840 She's teeny. 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:40.639 Her voice, one of the greatest talents, literally, of her lifetime. 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:45.519 I mean, she can bring a roof down every song you know, which is crazy because you think, oh, she's got a couple hits. 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:46.079 No, no. 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:47.920 Literally every single song is famous. 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.719 I mean, she is just an icon and you have great taste. 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.480 You made me feel again better about myself. 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:53.119 So thank you. 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:54.000 Oh, thank you. 00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:57.519 And the last, she always comes up and she's hopefully gonna come on the podcast soon. 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.239 Uh, Lisa Coudreau, were you of come the comeback fan? 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.559 I think anyone who loves the comeback is my type of person. 00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:05.920 So I'm a like comeback fan as of late. 00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:09.519 I only watched it maybe three years ago, and I love Mickey. 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:11.679 Mickey for me is the reason why that show is funny. 00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:15.039 Like every anytime he was on screen, I was on the ground. 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:22.159 Um, but I would say I don't have like a comeback obsession like I do with like a Seinfeld or some other shows of that ilk. 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:24.480 So uh, but I I think she's great. 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:25.760 I'm a big lease ahead. 00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.360 I mean, I love her, but I don't have I probably the same level of passion for her as you do. 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:30.480 I will be up front. 00:59:30.559 -->

00:59:30.639 Yeah. 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.000 Michelle, this has been such a pleasure. 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:32.639 That's it. 00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.679 I mean, my I am gonna I am gonna drive up to Penn. 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:37.599 I'm gonna drive up to Philly in December. 00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:38.559 That'll be such a fun night. 00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:42.559 And knowing that Brian Safe, who was on my show a few months ago, I didn't know he was opening. 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:43.760 So that would be so fun. 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:44.239 I know. 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.920 I have to change the poster, but um just I'll I'll give you tickets. 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.320 But tell your listeners like, don't buy tickets. 00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:51.920 How could I make you buy a ticket? 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:53.840 Can you imagine if I said you're gonna pay for tickets? 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:57.599 Like, listener, can you even imagine after this hour that I've spent with this lovely fan? 00:59:57.840 --> 00:59:59.679 Oh, wait, are you are you singing this time? 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:01.199 I know you like to sing sometimes. 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:01.519 Okay. 01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:03.280 Oh, I'm singing cabaret. 01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:19.199 I am singing a Beyoncé cover, and I'm ending with a Whitney cover that I'm gonna be very upfront may not stay in because shockingly I'm not professionally trained, and the past couple times I've sung it, I had to like take the day off my podcast because I had like no voice left. 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.119 But my God, do I give it my all Kyle? 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:21.599 I really do. 01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:22.480 So yes, come to the show. 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:26.159 You do, it's always a nice surprise because people probably don't know that you you're a great singer. 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:26.960 I love to sing. 01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:28.880 Yes, Michelle CollinsComedy.com. 01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:31.199 I really want to be like stunt casted in something. 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:37.119 So Mama Morton, Madame Thenardier, Christine, Phantom of the Opera, like some kind of stunt casting. 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:38.159 You could be the genie. 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.400 They've made women are doing being genie now. 01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:41.679 Sherry Shepherd is the first. 01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:42.480 I saw that. 01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:44.000 Yeah, but doesn't she sing a lot in it? 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:45.199 Or is that not a big singing part? 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:46.079 It's more like dance. 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:46.719 I couldn't dance. 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:47.360 That's the problem. 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:48.800 Sherry is a better. 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.079 I think that she's more, I think she gives more than I do, Sherry Shepard. 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.119 Could you do you, you'd be fine doing eight nines, eight, eight shows a week. 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:56.159 I I don't think

I would be. 01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:57.360 No, I'm being serious. 01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.320 That no, I'm like dead serious. 01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:06.800 For example, Bo and Yang, who are who I love with my whole heart, who's an O'Mary, I'm like, how is he doing this? 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.599 I don't understand how people do this many shows per week. 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:18.559 It just see, just like I compliment the Newark, New Jersey, Jersey Mike's employees, I'm gonna comment Bo and Yang for their hard work, their dedication to their craft. 01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:20.400 They're incredible people all around. 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.159 And um, thank you so much for having me. 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.239 And yeah, MichelleCollinscomedy.com. 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:27.440 But Kyle, you're by the way, also congratulations on your new gig. 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:28.320 Oh, thank you. 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:28.880 I'm having fun. 01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.360 Yeah, I'll show clips of this on my new TV show too. 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:31.840 They're letting me. 01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:32.480 Will you? 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:33.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.400 You splice it into me being like, I hate the view. 01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.719 I never want to be on that show. 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:41.119 No, no, but you mentioned that. 01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:42.800 I could see you on Broadway. 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:43.840 Maybe it's just a one-off. 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.159 I I remember you did the one-off on the view. 01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:48.239 Oh my god, that was my last episode. 01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:49.280 That was my last episode. 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:54.880 Wait, we're talking about um Ursula, or we're talking about when I sang in the karaoke contest. 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.000 Because those are two different things. 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:59.519 I remember you showed it in your your show at the Birch Mirror. 01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.000 You showed a clip of you being dressed up at the as as the View. 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.039 They took you to Broadway. 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.639 Oh my god, wicked. 01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:05.679 I forgot about that. 01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:06.559 That, oh my God. 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:07.760 Well, that was in my last tour. 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:11.360 I told the show, the story about how they put me in my least favorite musical ever made. 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:12.320 I was like, thanks. 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.960 Anyway, yes, like the least flattering costume. 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:16.400 Yeah, that's what they did. 01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:17.519 And God bless them for it. 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.239 Yeah, they should have me back just to put me in another hideous thing. 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.639 I don't know why they're not taking advantage of this. 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:24.559 Like they could easily humiliate me. 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:25.840 I know

they like doing that. 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.039 So call me back. 01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:28.079 Let's go for it. 01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:30.480 Anyway, this has love to them. 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:33.519 Love to Wendy and Kathy and all your beautiful guests. 01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:34.320 And Rosie. 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.800 And Rosie knows you now, didn't she message you? 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:37.519 She did. 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:42.480 Rosie messaged me after going, I'm not going to do my impression, but she was like, you know, I don't know what I was saying. 01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:43.679 Like, I was just talking. 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.199 And I took that opportunity. 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:52.239 She never wrote me back, but I was like, I would be remiss if I didn't open this DM by telling you how much I love another steak out, which is one of my favorite comedies. 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.800 And if you've never seen it, listener, you're only hurting yourself. 01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:56.960 She is so funny in that movie. 01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:58.400 And she never wrote back. 01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:59.280 Have you seen it, obviously? 01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:00.000 Yes, I've seen it. 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:00.320 Isn't it? 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:01.599 It's with Emilio Esteves. 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:02.159 Sure is. 01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.760 And Richard Dreyfus and a big old dog named Archie. 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:08.400 Dennis Farina. 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:09.679 It's one of the funniest movies. 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.000 If you've never seen Another Steak Out, I talked about it on my pod. 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:14.960 People watched it and DM'd me being like, you never steer us wrong. 01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:15.840 I'm telling you. 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:16.639 Brilliant. 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:18.159 Michelle, thank you. 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:19.280 Kyle, this was a pleasure. 01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:20.159 Thank you for having me. 01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.679 Sorry, it opened a little serious, and but we got there, and I knew we would. 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:24.639 No, I knew it too. 01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:26.480 I I as soon as I clocked it too. 01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:27.519 I was like, I'll lighten up. 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:28.320 I'll work on it. 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:28.880 It's early. 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:31.119 I was like, Kyle, it's me. 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:31.920 Okay. 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:32.880 All right. 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:34.880 Adore you, love you, guys. 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:38.400 Thank you, Michelle. 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.239 Make sure to catch her on tour, the big letters tour. 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:41.519 She's heading all around the country. 01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:42.639 She's fantastic live. 01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:43.360 You're gonna love it. 01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:44.800 I will be at the Philly show. 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.159 Maybe I'll see you there. 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:48.480 Now let's get to today's Tangled-in song. 01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:49.840 What song am I tangled in? 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:56.559 You know, I cannot go without mentioning my favorite all time, Alanis Morissette, who just released her first Christmas album. 01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.039 It's called Good Weather for Immaculate Conception. 01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:04.320 I am loving this album, and I wasn't sure that I would like truly love a Christmas album by her, but I love everything she does. 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.480 And she has such a unique way of putting her spin on anything that she does. 01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:15.920 And I just want to reiterate that this is such a gay, LGBTQIA plus friendly celebration of a Christmas album. 01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:16.960 It's not religious. 01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:32.159 You know, some of the songs obviously mention Christ and birth and religion, but I love how she filled the album with guest spots with LGBTQIA plus voices, including Trans Voices, UK, Brandy Carlisle, Joy Aladokun. 01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:36.000 Sorry, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly, but also Amethyst Kia. 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:40.400 She also has collaborations with Steve Martin and Martin Short. 01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:48.320 She has two original songs on there, To an Empath at Christmas time and Christmas on the Dance Floor, which needs to be a staple in clubs. 01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:49.280 I'm hoping it will be. 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:49.920 It should be. 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:51.840 I think I've already seen some remixes of it. 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.320 I am always gonna love what Alanis Morissette does. 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.320 I love that she's so in the zeitgeist right now. 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:57.440 People are appreciating her. 01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.079 I've been loving her for 31 and a half years now. 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:05.280 But fame always goes in waves, and she's on a crest right now of a big wave, and I love it. 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.960 And that is why I'm going to Los Angeles and I'm gonna see her live on my birthday. 01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:11.039 She also has a Joni Mitchell cover on there. 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:19.679 She sings River, Silent Night, Oh Holy Night, Merry Christmas with Martin Shorts, Beautiful Star of Bethlehem with Brandy Carlisle. 01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:21.599 I really love Mama Mary. 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.119 I had never heard that song, and it really gets you going. 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:29.280 It's like a gospel, upbeat, chanting type of song. 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.039 I uh been blasting it. 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:32.239 Make sure to check it out. 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:36.400 I'm hoping she does some Christmas performances of the song since we know we have a couple months. 01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:42.239 It's a joyous album, but it's also a sad album, as Christmas music can tend to be, and she says those are her favorites. 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:50.000 Like she always found a tinge of sadness in a lot of the holiday music that she listened to growing up, and this showcases all sides, all parts. 01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:54.320 All right, my friends, I will be back next week for a recap of my Los Angeles trip. 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:56.239 We have fantastic guests on the way. 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:57.199 I love you guys. 01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:58.880 Make sure to like, rate, and subscribe. 01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:00.400 Leave a comment if you will. 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.159 I will see and speak with you soon. 01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:04.719 Until then, you take care of yourselves.