บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Vel Nine Interview

we we would get permanent markers and we would go into the bathroom and like start striking up, and it was just like the funniest shit because we didn't know what we were doing, but that was just our our like original, like genuine introduction into the act of graffiti, and I I love that it was just like it was just us figuring it out, it wasn't necessarily like oh, like somebody putting it on. 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:15.279 It definitely wasn't no man a dude putting us on, but it was just so cool that it got to be like genuine and it got to be ridiculous because it was new, you know. 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:24.800 Yeah, and so so yeah, I credit a lot of like who I am today from from my childhood and like how I was raised, and I'm very grateful. 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:26.560 I'm from Baldwin Park, California. 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:37.360 It's like this little cut off the 605, and um, you know, that that definitely made me who I am today. 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:43.680 I mean, you've been doing graffiti for a minute, so when I first met you, that's all we did was draw on books. 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:44.480 Yeah. 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:46.879 And and Velle didn't talk at all. 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:48.800 She just did graffiti. 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:50.319 I didn't even know she could talk. 00:06:50.480 --> 00:07:00.240 I thought she had like some kind of like disease or some kind of or she was just mad or I don't know, but I never heard her speak. 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.120 So, but she was always hitting the books. 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:08.560 And that was back like Ooh, like 2020 that what year was that? 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.199 Fuck, that's that had to be like 20. 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.480 That was I mean that had to be like 2010, 20. 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:16.560 No, that had to be like 2011. 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.480 That was probably like 2010, 2011. 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:19.759 It was a while ago. 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:32.959 Because uh I think I had like it took me damn near, after I met you, it took me damn near like two years, I think, before I actually started uh um making music. 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:38.639 Yeah, because when I when I when I used to go to June Bug's house, and I'd be like, where's Belle at? 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.360 They'd be like, oh, she's in the studio with Yoshi. 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:41.600 Yeah. 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:42.720 And I'm like, what? 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:43.600 Yoshi? 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.360 And I was like, okay, and they were like, yeah, she she makes music. 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:48.560 I'm like, okay. 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:57.839 And then and then you blessed us with that cipher, and I was like, man, that's the dopest female I've ever heard in my life. 00:07:58.160 --> 00:07:58.720 Ever. 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:00.000 Hands down. 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:19.839 So how important is it for for women to do graffiti, for women to be in MCs, for M for women to be uh important figures and express themselves through hip hop? 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:29.120 I think it's important for for people to express themselves and what what you're born is what you're born, you know. 00:08:29.439 --> 00:09:06.960 Um I never really looked at it as like a female MC or a female graffiti writer, although I do totally like fall into the category of women writers because even though the two crews I'm from or was from at that time were very male-dominant crews, I really only painted with my homegirls, and that's just because like I'm a writer, and then after being a writer, I just so happen to be a chick. 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:27.919 So all my friends are girls, and all the girls I kicked it with all wrote, and so like our girls' night out was like go into the freight yard, you know, but it wasn't like oh I'm I'm a woman and I'm gonna do this because I'm a woman, like that was a just a fact after the matter, or um, you know what I mean? 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.919 Like it was it wasn't like the first part of my definition, yeah. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:40.320 Like the first part of my definition or my description or however you describe me is an artist, you know? 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:44.799 So I tend to be around other artistic people. 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:51.120 Um with rap, I definitely don't fall into like the woman category. 00:09:51.200 --> 00:10:39.519 I'd say I never thought about myself as a a female um MC, it was just straight like I'm a I do graffiti, I'm an artist, I come from this culture, I taught myself how to freestyle, and what I rap about is real, and it was just genuine, and there's nothing wrong with female um MCs, but I feel like there's such a like there's such a like emphasis on the word female when really it's like what's the difference between you and I, you know, yeah, other than our like inside organs and and how like you know I could I could birth a child, which is great, yeah. 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:49.279 But other than that, like I think an artist is just an artist, and it's like how how fucking crazy are you compared to me? 00:10:49.440 --> 00:11:03.440 I don't know, like but I love don't get me wrong though, like I I love being a woman and I love that I get to create with other women and that are like equally if not even doper than I am. 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.159 That's like fucking sick as fuck. 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:13.840 And um, but I I think what I love creating about the with the women that I create with is it's never an emphasis on on being a woman, you know. 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:17.440 We don't sell sex to like get our point across. 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.919 The point is just fucking thrown across the room. 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.320 So I love this. 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:30.080 I think it's No, I love the way I love the way you think and I love the way you you speak right now. 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.360 Like you you you give me a lot of game. 00:11:33.919 -->

00:11:40.240 So like as an artist, I feel like you know are you just you're not just an artist, but you so much more than that. 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:47.679 But when I was walking over here, I was listening to your music, I was just like, damn, Vel's a she's a healer too. 00:11:49.120 --> 00:12:03.519 So I mean, I mean a lot of people see you on the on the gram or through the social media and the concerts, but who who is a real Vale? 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:13.759 Because I see you folding up clothes, yeah, and I see I love being like for lack of better term, like domesticated. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:31.440 Like I think it's like when I it's so funny that you even mentioned that because I do feel like I'm I'm this whole like this huge entity, and being an artist, even though I'm I'm truly an artist, like being an artist is even like not even the full picture, you know. 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:54.320 It's like I was raised by my grandmothers, I was raised by my fias, I was raised by my mom, like taking care of your home is probably the most important part of your mourning because it sets the precedence for the rest of the day, the rest of the week, the rest of the month, the rest of the year. 00:12:54.639 --> 00:13:18.559 I love like being able to have a home and taking care of it and showing like I think maybe what seven years ago I did not display as many like motherly nurturing uh behaviors, whereas now like I love it. 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:26.480 I'm I don't I'm not a mom to a human child, but I'm a mom to three animals, and these bitches be keeping me on my toes. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.320 And I I get to have my own like big beautiful space. 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:42.480 I love my I love my home, like I love being a partner, I love being a friend, a girlfriend, I love being a daughter, I love be I love being an aunt. 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:46.480 Being a Thea is like probably the best thing that's ever happened to me. 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.480 And I guess that does go back to like being a woman, you know. 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:57.039 I just don't really correlate needing to be an artist and a woman at the same time, but I I do exist as both. 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:57.759 Yeah. 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:04.720 Um you know, I'm a little bit older now, and so like I've got to experience so much in my life. 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:11.360 I feel so grateful for I've gotten to like go to so many countries, so many states, just to just to be an artist. 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:19.279 And um, but my favorite thing is when I get to come back home, you know, because like nothing feels as great as home to me. 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.759 Like, I love I have the travel bug. 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:22.720 I love leaving. 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:24.159 Yeah, I love leaving. 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.720 I'm damn near leave for like three weeks, but after that I'm like, all right, I want to go back home. 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.360 Like, I love taking care of my space. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:38.080 It it just sets it's it's uh it's like a I get to be in my own world. 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:39.919 I really am like a homebody too. 00:14:40.000 --> 00:15:16.000 Like, but that comes after you're like you know a decade and a half of being outside after a while, like you start to appreciate being in your like safe space, like not to sound like so cliche, but there really is like a safe space and then and taking care of like your mind, like I really this this like last five years really was like a turning point for m for me like mentally and it was like okay cool I know how to like I I mastered being an artist although you never master it, there's always learning, yeah. 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:29.919 Um I mastered like how to be a um an entertainer, but like who am I like who is like who is Val, you know? 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:36.720 And I I I I had to go through a lot to kind of figure that out. 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:51.120 There was a lot of dark moments in the last few years, specifically probably the last five years, and um and then they and the light would come and then I would be the light would stay on and then boom it would turn off again. 00:15:51.360 --> 00:16:26.720 So it was a it was a lot of like discovering and rediscovering, learning and unlearning that I had to do that I'm still doing and that I'll have to do for the rest of my life in order to feel content as a as a human because that's who I need to take care of first, is like who I am as a human in order to even like be able to show up as all the other descriptions as an artist, as a as a a partner, as a friend, as a daughter, like I'm not gonna be able to show up who I am if I can't even show up for myself. 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:38.639 So, um, and a huge part of that was like dealing with um who I am sober and that journey that I'm taking now. 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:48.399 And it's a journey that I've tried to do over and over, but now I'm realizing like there was no way that I'd be able to do it without a s a solid community. 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:59.279 So why why the um so I've been I've been on the gram, hashtag sober life, I'm I'm for it, but like what what inspired that? 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:37.279 You know, I feel like even though like I wasn't someone who is um you know abusing substances every day, it was more that like I was using them when I didn't I couldn't process like certain emotions and I knew that once I realized I was doing that like I had to stop because if I can't process my emotions like sober or without substances, like I would have to rely on them for the rest of my life, and that's that's something that I never wanted to do. 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:48.480 I grew up with in a household in the alcoholic household, not necessarily directly to my parents growing up, but you know, my family, they've always abused substances. 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:57.519 Um and even like so like when I say like a hundred

percent sober, I mean like I don't I'm not smoking weed anymore. 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:06.240 And for the first time since I'm since I've been 13 years old, since since the age of 13, like this is the very first time I haven't smoked weed. 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:17.680 And although I wasn't like rolling up backwards and fucking puffing like you know, bong hits all day, like I would smoke every day, at least once. 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:26.559 And not only that, I would do artistic things I would have to smoke before, before during, before and during. 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.400 So I decided to cut everything out. 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:51.599 It was kind of like the noise was too loud and I needed to cut the noise because I just didn't feel good, and I was letting like the excuse of needing to process my emotions in order to like drink or smoke, and I didn't want to do that anymore because I knew what I was doing wasn't working. 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:52.079 Yeah. 00:18:52.640 --> 00:19:29.440 So I cut the noise and I was fucking so scared because I thought I was going to like I thought I was going to lose my creative spark, specifically from not smoking anymore, because I have been smoking so much and I've always smoked while being creative, but that's actually like the complete opposite of what happened, like it feels like a cloud has kind of been lifted from from my head space, and I just feel so clear-minded that and uh you can hear it in my music. 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:34.319 I like to use a lot of things that like I'll say one bar and it really means like three different things. 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:53.440 Now I can say one bar and it'll say it'll mean ten different things because my mind is like it's so clear, like it's almost like being on acid, like where I can like look at something and I dissect it so much, like it's now impixelated into small, tiny, fucking atom-sized squares. 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:55.279 And I didn't think that would happen. 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:56.160 I thought the opposite. 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.400 I thought I was gonna become dull. 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:09.839 I thought things were gonna lose its color, and like, no, it's actually giving me an opportunity to see life and face it um forward, you know. 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:21.680 And um, but again, like having a community and and engaging and um with other people who are on the same journey as me, that's the only way I'll be able to get through this. 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:30.079 Um so I never asked you this, but I don't know if anyone ever asked you this, but what does the name Vel come from? 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:35.519 I I hear Vel 9, I see Vela right here, you drawing, like, where does that come from? 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:42.720 Well, my my first like real name in in graffiti um was Vela, yeah. 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.359 I write something else now, but I'm not gonna say it at all. 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:45.920 Okay. 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:50.960 But uh yeah, I mean it was it was um Vella. 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.599 I got it actually that name it I got it in like eighth grade. 00:20:53.680 --> 00:21:00.319 Okay, which will which is a true testament to how fucking real what I'm telling you is. 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:14.720 Like, nah for it wasn't no actually it must have been I was probably 14 years old, so I think I was um a freshman, or it was like the summer in between eighth grade and freshman year, but basically, yeah, it was that fucking long ago. 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.680 And um, I would just that's that's what I wrote. 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:19.200 Vella V-E-L-A. 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:55.839 I would sometimes add a H at the end, like to make it five letters because I wanted to balance out like the middle letter, and and that's what I ran with, and um I don't remember who but at some point someone shortened my name from Vella to Vel, and then um yeah, then when I started rapping with Yoshi and the homie High and like all my my homies from the valley, like that's just what it became. 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:57.440 It it became Vel. 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:09.440 And then um I needed uh A name to put on for the the Cypher effect video that I did, but I mean I should I didn't fucking know I didn't have a rap name, I didn't even have a rap song. 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:14.559 So my homies in the valley they had a a rap group, it was called Super Friends. 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:15.039 Okay. 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:25.759 It was like a super villain theme, which was so uh it's always my favorite theme in hip hop like MF Doom, mad villain, like that's my favorite theme in hip-hop. 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:30.079 It's like her like superhero slash super villain. 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:37.119 So they were called super friends, and I don't remember I think I was just like bouncing names with one of my homies one time. 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:44.799 Shout out to my homie Skeprock, and and somehow Vel the Wonder Um popped up. 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.480 It was kind of like a like Wonder Woman play, you know. 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.720 Although I'm not I'm not even really like a wonder Wonder Woman fan, to be honest. 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:53.680 I was like Catwoman. 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:57.519 Well, I like Catwoman, but I don't even like Catwoman. 00:22:57.599 --> 00:22:58.319 I like Batman. 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:09.279 So it's like it goes back to that, but um it was a playoff of just the Wonder Woman name, so Vella Wonder popped up, and I was like, alright, fuck it, I'll put that. 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:12.559 I really didn't think it was gonna like that was gonna be my rap name. 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:16.000 It just kind of like it was my whole rap career is a fluke. 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.240 I mean, I mean why what? 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.960 I mean, I don't I don't mean to get out topic, but why Batman? 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.400 Uh out of all of Superman

why Batman? 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:25.279 Or is it a big thing? 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:39.279 I think because I like No, I think it's because like Gotham City is sick as fuck, and he he didn't like he wasn't he was like a real human being, you know, like like um Superman. 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:44.960 I love Superman, but like you know, he he was like smoking kryptonite or whatever. 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.240 Like I he was punching through fucking walls. 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:52.880 Like Batman was a real human, like that flooded a souped-up car. 00:23:53.519 --> 00:24:13.440 You know, he had like some wings that helped him glide, but like he didn't have like real like powers that were not real to other humans, so maybe it was like the twist on him being like a real human, and then I just love Gotham City, and I I also love the like the the other super villains in Batman. 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:25.119 Yeah, like I fucking love Joker, I love the penguin, Catwoman, like I just feel like the the um the empire of Batman was always my favorite. 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.200 It's just fucking it's super sick. 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:27.680 Alright. 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:28.960 You're gonna get the group? 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:40.400 Okay, and um, yeah, um so so then Vel the Wonder happened, and um they put it on the the Cypher effect. 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:41.839 I don't know what the fuck I was doing. 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:46.480 You know, that was my very first time looking into a camera was that video, yeah. 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:47.519 How'd you feel? 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:53.599 Fucking scared shitless, like you could tell, like I didn't know what I was doing. 00:24:54.079 --> 00:25:01.200 Mind you, when I showed up to that rooftop, like there was eight girls, uh, including myself. 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:08.720 Those other seven girls, they had already been making music, they all knew each other, they had been you making music for like five plus years. 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:37.279 Yeah, I was the only outsider, I was the only one who's never made music, who no one else knew, and probably the only um you know started graffiti writer into rapper, but uh after the after I I did it, like there was a few of them that came up to me and they're like, You're dope as fuck, like um, shout out to Gavlet. 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:43.920 I remember her telling me like you're a f uh a breath of fresh air, which is like really nice to hear, you know. 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:52.079 And yeah, after that, it went on YouTube and then boom, it just fucking it it was like it was a fluke. 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:59.039 The whole fucking thing just it was like well what do they say when the when it starts rolling down the hill and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:00.880 That's pretty much Avalanche. 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.839 Yeah, that's pretty much like how it happened. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:11.519 Like, I remember looking at the

comments, and YouTube was like barely getting its feet at that time, too. 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.839 Well, it had been a thing, but real at that time it was really popping off. 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:34.319 And um, I remember looking at the comments, and I didn't know what the fuck to do because again, like I'm just some fucking kid, like writing and fucking smoking weed and black booking and freestyling, like I really had no direction at that time, yeah. 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:38.559 And um, all the comments were like bell, bell, bell. 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.119 Like, I was like, what the fuck? 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.880 Am I gonna get in trouble for this shit? 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:44.000 Like, what is this? 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:50.160 And I I remember showing my dad, and my dad was so proud, he was so happy. 00:26:50.559 --> 00:27:01.200 You didn't take her, he was so proud, he was just like, damn, like this is my daughter, and it was cool after that. 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:09.279 The name stuck, everyone loved the name, but then I had to start figuring out how to be like Vel the MC, you know? 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:16.079 Yeah, and so I started making music, but I didn't even know how to write like a 16. 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:25.440 Like my first thing I ever recorded was like 11 bars, and it was all I used to talk about in the beginning was graffiti because that's all I knew. 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.640 And I remember somebody was like, All you rap about is graffiti. 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:29.599 I'm like, Well, what the fuck? 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:34.240 I'm not gonna rap about like no big booty hoes, like I'm gonna rap about what I actually do. 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:35.279 Yeah, yeah. 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:44.559 And um, yeah, after that, it just kind of like it it I really give it up to my higher power because it all fell into place for me. 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.839 I that was that was like 2012. 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:56.799 I think the first show I headlined was in 2012, and like people be rapping for years before they get a headlining show, you know? 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:20.640 And so like I I got to like I got a foot, I got a a foot up in the game from God, and after that I was I had already by 2014 I was on warp tour and I was doing warp tour and I got to travel with DJ Lala and the homie the hip hop kid, and but I got I'm glad I still got to do it like out the mud style. 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:36.640 Like we still had to drive our own whip and and drive like eight to twelve hours overnight and really like drag our merch from like a mile long in the heat and like I didn't get I didn't get walked into it. 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:41.119 I still had to like crawl through the mud, but I got the chance to, you know. 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:50.640 I'm always so grateful I got the chance to like to crawl through the mud to be able to to say all the things that I've done like today. 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.559 And um,

yeah, it was it was great. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:29:28.240 No, um I'm real proud of you because it's like I heard about the shows, like you, you know, in the bay, opening up for like, you know, B40 and a bunch of a lot of big name artists, and I was just like, when I heard about it, when I see you doing it, it just made me smile because it's like this was this little Vale that wasn't even talking that I met, like she was like this little girl, and now she's coming out of the graffiti culture out of that circle and evolved. 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.200 I mean, came so much more and still evolving. 00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:45.839 So to me, you're a living legend because I know there's still more evolution in you, still more growth, still more words, a lot more medicine for you to give to the people, and I'm I'm excited to see where you go. 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:50.480 Um, but with the graffiti, like what it what is graffiti though to you? 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:52.400 Like what is it, what does it do for you? 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.640 Was it what does it represent? 00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:01.759 Um I see you doing graffiti right now, and I'm like, damn, she still got it. 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:02.720 You know what? 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.079 I'm even like fucking way better than I've ever been. 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:16.880 Like I'll show you some of the shit we were painting, but um I okay, so I remember like a long time ago one of my homies was like only toys retire. 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:35.200 And uh and uh I just kind of knew like you know, graffiti's always just gonna be part of my lifestyle, and and that's just because it was from it it started like as a child for me and everything. 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.240 I love graffiti. 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.480 I love I even love just fucking gang strike-ups, you know. 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:49.359 I love seeing like neighborhoods, like that's such an LA thing, like like for sure, bombing and color schemes and wild stocks. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:31:08.079 That's very New York, but like neighborhood fucking cholo tags, like that's LA, and I love that we got to like come from that and you know put your putting your name somewhere, like it's just a rush and seeing your name. 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:28.640 My favorite thing is like going to go back to the countries that I've visited and like seeing old tags and like seeing stickers, you know, like going to going to driving up to the bay for a show and stopping in every bathroom to catch a scribe of the mirror, and it's like I already have two scribes up here. 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.279 Like one says 2014, the other one says 2018. 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:34.960 Like, what am I gonna add? 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.160 A 25? 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.920 Like to. 00:31:38.160 --> 00:32:14.640 I just like driving across the country to go to different states to perform and getting to like put your name up in these nasty ass bathrooms or like next to

gas stations or like catching um daytime fills in an abandoned building off the five freeway just because you can like like I'm not I'm definitely not out here trying to be like oh I'm up, I'm up, like I'm all city, but like I'm also always going to be a writer, like I'm never not gonna be a writer, I'm never not gonna wanna not pay my name, you know? 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.119 You know, and um I don't know. 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.240 I just I love like I love art, I love color schemes. 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:35.119 When I got to go to Europe for the first time and I came back, that was when I decided I was no longer going to outline in black or white because of how inspired I was from the color schemes that they use. 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:54.079 So now instead of outlining in black, I'll uh I'll outline like midnight blue or like aubergy purple or like really like dark red burgundy, and um it just brings more like it brings more life to shit and the act of spray painting. 00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:05.200 Fuck I love painting, I fucking love spray painting, like yeah, I like drawing on canvases and I like I like using acrylic to paint, but like nothing feel nothing feels better than like using aerosol. 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:12.960 And I remember being so young, I was so little, I was probably like 14 years old when I watched some OG ride, I don't even remember his name. 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.880 Me and my homie went to go paint with some OG and I watched him clean up. 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.079 That was the first time I realized, like, oh, you could clean up, like it was so cool. 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:38.240 It was what it was just watching him like cut back and like making the lines crispy, and then I remember the first time I watched somebody paint, which basically was like backwards, in order to save yourself from having to clean up so much. 00:33:38.400 --> 00:34:02.480 So, like you do your fill, and then you you add, I usually do my fill, and then I'll do the background, and then I'll do the 3D, and then the last thing I do sometimes I'll even do the highlight, and then the last thing I do is outline because then like boom, I just layered all on top of each other, and the outline really needs to be like the nicest looking thing. 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:10.320 And I've I've got you can ask anybody who knows me who sees me painting, like I have can control like a motherfucker. 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:11.760 Okay, I do. 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.519 I I love that about myself. 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.960 I won't say I'm the best writer, I won't say I have the best style, yeah. 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:38.079 I won't say I have the best anything, but I do have fucking can control, and I take pride in that, and um, I just like I really love like color schemes, I love doing backgrounds, I love filling in these crazy feels, like when I started painting with my girlfriends a lot more, we would start doing just like sick ass productions, you know. 00:34:38.719 --> 00:35:00.239 Shout out to my homegirl Lakes, my homegirl T's Raquel, Key, Venus, fucking Queens in New York, Claw Money in New York, like it's just fun painting with girls because we're just some fucking couple of bitches hanging out. 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:08.639 Just talking so much shit, but also like laying a fire ass production in the back. 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:09.760 That's what's up. 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.239 My homegirl Kessra, my homegirl Whims. 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.119 Yeah, I got homegirls like all over the US that paint. 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:16.719 So, man. 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:17.920 It's fun. 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.280 So what's the average night? 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.960 I mean, like, with you, like you you watch TV more or you listen to music more? 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.199 I like podcasts. 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:26.960 What podcasts are you listening to right now? 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:27.840 Oh my god. 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.159 Anything that has to do with murder and death. 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.679 No, I'm just kidding. 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.079 I love pop crime podcasts, of course, because I don't know. 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:41.599 I felt I my sister's the one that got me into podcasts, and she got me into like a crime podcast. 00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:48.000 It was like the first podcast I ever listened to, and now I damn near know about like every serial killer in in US history. 00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:48.559 Okay. 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:57.039 Sometimes I'd be like going down the serial killer um like spiel, and I'm like, wait, people probably looking at me so sketchy right now. 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.000 But um, let me see. 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:06.880 I mean, I don't really watch TV as much because it's just not like time to like ever watch TV. 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.400 There's always something to do. 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.400 Yeah, I like going to the movies because the movies remind me of my childhood. 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.480 My dad used to take us to the movies. 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.880 We'll go to the movies at like Saturday morning and we'll stay all day watching like three movies. 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.039 We'll just go to a one theater. 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.039 Shit, what is the last movie I saw? 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:26.400 Don't say Superman. 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:27.280 Fuck no. 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:36.400 I was probably terrifier high key, even though that was no no, I couldn't be terrifier because I've definitely seen seen movies after that. 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:45.199 Oh, I think it was the latest Wicked, which I do love Wicked because because in um I used to be in like um in like uh what is it called? 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.320 Musical theater. 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:46.719 Yeah. 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.519 So I mean I have a music background other than rapping from when I was little. 00:36:51.599 -->

00:36:52.400 I would like sing. 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.039 I was like part of like my elementary choir. 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.920 I did I did middle school choir, did high school choir, like so you can sing. 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.199 I mean I wouldn't I never call myself a singer, but I have like I can hold a melody, you know. 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:05.760 Okay. 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:14.000 Um, but it just but it does come back to like I do have a musical background, you know, other than just rapping. 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:18.559 And so like I like um I I really love like Broadway. 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:26.320 Like I've I've seen Wicked on Broadway, I've seen The Lion King, I seen um a Bronx Tale. 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.079 I like shit like that. 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:44.159 Like I like uh I remember and I think it's because when I was really little, my elementary school, they took us to go see uh, you know how they do like the government just be like paying for shit for like um poor kids to go and do cool shit they'd never be able to do with their parents. 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.719 So they took us to go see the LA Orchestra. 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:47.199 Okay. 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.880 And I remember thinking like this is so fucking sick. 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:59.440 Like, I wanna be like, I wanna be around this, like so that was really like uh my introduction to like classical music. 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.239 So I think that's why I like Broadway so much. 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:02.719 Okay. 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:13.519 So I like to do I'll go do anything or like my one of my favorite things to do is um go watch movies, like they'll have a lot in LA. 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:22.880 I think one of the last ones I saw was um Nightmare Before Christmas, but while they're playing it on the large screen, the orchestra is playing the music in black. 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:24.960 I love shit like that. 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:40.079 I've seen Frankenstein like that, like anything like real classic and music and um just like entertaining and educational at the same time, like that's that's what I want to surround myself with. 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:52.480 If I get to have kids, you know, God willing, like I'm gonna make sure these these motherfuckers are all up in that shit because it's it's real like educational and it's like it's so art forward, you know. 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.039 You don't play any instruments? 00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:56.559 No. 00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:58.480 God did not give me that ability. 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.480 I like to fuck around with the percussions. 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:12.960 I like like drumming is probably the thing that I would um if I had to like if I if I had the time, which I always have the time, but if I got to like really dedicate myself, I would definitely be a drummer. 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:18.880 Just because it reminds me of punk rock music and I have a lot of aggression. 00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.480 So as a drummer, yeah. 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:27.199 What's your um you don't have to speak on this, but I like the way you think, I like the way you talk. 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.559 Cause like you just not the average. 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:44.960 I'm not trying to like like blow your head up or anything like that, but I'm just saying, like, your energy, like the way you are, you're not no average girl, and you have different thoughts, your heart's built different, it got a different shape. 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.599 So it's like, what's your stance on all this immigration shit going on right now? 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.280 Like, how how you feel about it? 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:54.400 What's your perspective? 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.519 I mean, it's I mean, fuck ice all day. 00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:58.880 For sure, definitely. 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:00.239 It's fucking terrible. 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:12.480 It's it's terrible that I mean I spend so much of my time in downtown and shit just like really took a a turn for the worse, you know? 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:19.519 And I I just like I'm so baffled that we live in a time that this is even happening. 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:20.400 Oh, right. 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:30.880 Yeah, it's fucking it feels like our amendments are being ripped right from us and the hard working classes being removed from our homes. 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:33.440 It's a terrible thing to happen. 00:40:33.599 --> 00:41:08.559 Even like with you know, because I'm like first generation, I come like from a family that's first generation, second generation, like I don't I'm lucky that I'm lucky in the sense that I pass as someone who doesn't have to be um you know asked about my my immigration status, but there's like cousins of mine that are first generation that have to ride around with their birth certificate in the car because they're terrified, you know, of being taken away from their homes. 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:16.800 Like a lot my all my grandparents have passed away, and um a lot of my aunts and uncles have passed away. 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:20.639 Or also I probably feel scared for them too, you know. 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:43.840 But it's even more than just beyond my family, it's like the temperature of of our city and LA has dealt with that so much and so hard, it's even hard to think about it on a broader spectrum where like it's not just Los Angeles, like it's in Pomona, it's in San Bernardo, it's in Chicago, it's in yes, it's in other states. 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:55.119 Like and um I mean p politically and our government has been fucked for a while. 00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:07.679 And I don't I I wish I had like more answers on how we could change that, but I mean right now I think we're just trying to keep our head above the water, you know. 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:09.199 I think you are the answer. 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:22.159 I think I think that you

give us the medicine to keep our heads up and stay positive and stay strong, you know. 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:31.679 You give us, you know, you remind us what we learn through your stories, through your experiences, and and knowing that we're not alone, we're a part of a bit a larger community. 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:32.639 Absolutely. 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:47.360 I do really lean on my community for so much, so I love giving back because it really is like what I can what I can like what God can give me, like, I want to be able to provide for others too. 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.159 I really am like a hundred percent for a community. 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:56.000 So I do try to do things that are like really community involved and and also giving back to the community. 00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:18.000 I I participated in a lot of events that um that the prophets were send uh giving back to uh families that needed uh legal aid with immigration and you know I I mean I might be just be one person, but I feel like if one if every single one person showed up, then we that's how we could make a difference. 00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:19.280 Sure. 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:31.599 So what's the um if there was one thing, one message that you can give to the people of the world, what would that message be? 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:37.760 Um don't give up before the miracle happens. 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.400 Ooh, that's that's a bar. 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:46.480 I got to hear that from other people, and it and I at first when I heard it, I didn't understand what it meant. 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:54.800 And now I'm really realizing that like it's like you you really have to believe in yourself. 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.840 Not even like not even in an unrealistic way. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:21.519 But as in a human way, like just keep showing up for yourself and and lean on your community and lean into your higher power and fulfill your day with purposeful things, even if it's just one thing, because I I know what like depression feels like. 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.760 Depression could take away everything from you. 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:24.239 Yeah. 00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:55.360 I've been in this home that we're sitting in right now, so depressed that n no light came through the windows, even though like the curtains were open and the windows were open, it was so dark, and I had to do so much um soul searching and and figuring out what it is that I needed, and really it was removing all of the um everything that was bad, you know. 00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:00.400 And now like there's so much light. 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.960 I'm figuring out how to direct it and also how to give it back to other people who who need it. 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:13.599 Like I get to feel some of this light, so like let me let me help someone else who needs a little bit of shine on them. 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:21.760 And um, yeah, I think it's like this what we do in this life, like it's gonna be a lifetime journey. 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:26.000 It's not just like, oh, I'm gonna get to this milestone and then I'll be good forever. 00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.119 Like, no, it really is because life doesn't stop. 00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.960 You don't get to just somewhere in life and then life it stops and then that's just where it's at. 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:34.559 Like, no, things happen. 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:58.159 And when when things when good things happen, when bad things happen, when life just happens, like processing your emotions and and figuring out how you're gonna get through them instead of avoiding them really is um a huge part of getting through what we call life. 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.920 And there's always a miracle waiting for you. 00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.920 So I would say don't stop, don't stop before the miracle hinders. 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.440 Uh damn, okay, shit. 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.280 That was hella powerful. 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:13.440 I haven't even smoked either. 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.480 I'm just like running off vibes right now. 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:18.480 Wow. 00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:19.440 Okay. 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.800 I'm gonna wrap this up with two basic questions. 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:28.239 Um I'm really I really want to hear this. 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:33.599 Um top five greatest MCs of all time. 00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:34.159 I knew it. 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:35.199 Dead or alive. 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:35.920 I knew it. 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:37.280 I knew it. 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.440 Um let's do it, let's do it live. 00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.719 We already know the dead take up like top five MCs that are alive. 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.159 That are alive. 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.519 If they exist. 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.360 Okay, um blue. 00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:56.559 Blue, okay. 00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.119 Yeah, blue is he's one of my favorite MCs. 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:04.960 Just cause like below the heavens, not only that, like everything that he spits up to date is is grand. 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.039 Love blue. 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:17.920 Um see, cause then it's like, are we talking like hip hop? 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.920 Are we talking like grimy rap? 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.159 Well, like all categories, like Bahamadia, love Bahamadia. 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.719 She's like probably my favorite female MC. 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:36.480 Um you gotta put your partner in there. 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.039 Cyrillus is the best. 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.199 I always say he's better than me. 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.119 I always say he's better than me, and then he'd be like, You're better than me. 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.199 I think it's a it's great to be able to like um play off of each other. 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.119 Yeah, you guys are beautiful together. 00:47:53.519 --> 00:48:03.119 Cause uh when we f

first started um dating and we're making music together, and he sent me a song and I was like, damn, this motherfucker's bitting. 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:03.440 Yeah. 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:06.400 Well, I gotta come just as hard if not harder. 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:08.880 So that was fun. 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.079 So yeah, I would say definitely like I'm for sure put me and him on the list with that's just me. 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:14.880 Yeah. 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:22.079 We're gonna we're gonna push rough ruffle some feathers with that button, but shit, I'm I'm here all day. 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:36.639 And then I guess if I was to say one more I really like this cat SD NAC, but just cause he be bring he be rhyming some like most ridiculous off the wall shit. 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:43.440 And I like um it reminds me of like it reminds me of if uh rap was uh graffiti. 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:51.679 I know this just sounds probably even crazier than I'm trying to explain it, but like if rap was graffiti, it'd be a m uh it'd be a grimy motherfucker. 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.360 And so like he raps like that, you know, just like grimy and like I like that shit. 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:09.840 I'm real like positive and and um forward thinking and and try to be graceful, but at the end of the day, like I'm still just some like grimy kid that's just trying to I don't know man. 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.920 You kinda uh you're not average, you know, nah nah nah nah. 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:14.480 I don't know. 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:24.880 I think it's just uh yeah I'm well I mean I I get to feel lucky for for what I've come from and and what I've got to accomplish and what I'm gonna get to do, so I don't know man. 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.239 You're the trophy wife. 00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:30.159 So I got one qu one last question for you. 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:38.880 Um might be a little different, but if you can use your love to change five things in the world, what would you change? 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:40.320 If I could what you said? 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:43.599 If you can use your love, use my love to change five things in the world. 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.360 Like your heart, you got a different heart. 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:50.960 So if you can use your love to change five things in the world, what would that be? 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.440 Fuck, that's a crazy one. 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:55.519 Cause I feel it. 00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:02.079 When you talk, when you spit, when you draw, I feel your love. 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.639 But can you articulate that? 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.679 What would you change with that love? 00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:10.800 Mmm. 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.800 That's so like so that's so broad. 00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:20.480 It's like I mean, cause the whole world is the whole world, but I mean like what what comes to mind? 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:25.679 If I could like change anything, I wish that families would stop being ripped apart from each other. 00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:27.440 That's probably first and foremost. 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:28.000 Okay. 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.800 Because it's such a huge thing, not in not only in the US, but like across the world, you know. 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.440 Um I think family is probably the number one thing in this world. 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:45.360 So if I could like keep families together, that would be that would be the number one thing. 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:53.119 Um I wish I wish I could provide a loving shelter for every dog in this world. 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:53.679 Okay. 00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:57.199 That's some love right there. 00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:58.079 That's some love. 00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.320 Even if it was like just a place for all the strays to go. 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.039 For real though, because I went to the shelter to volunteer. 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.440 They wouldn't let me volunteer because I had a felony. 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.440 But like, it is like that. 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:10.239 I don't know if you know that. 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:11.679 You got a felony, you can't volunteer. 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:18.480 So, like, I I went with my daughter because she wanted to volunteer. 00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:20.639 They still won't let me need a shopper room. 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:21.039 Yeah. 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.239 They still won't let me do that because I had a felonies. 00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.199 But we walked through there and that's just crowded. 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:27.599 Yeah. 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:33.599 They got like hundreds of dogs like in cages like these, like, in in in the building. 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:33.840 Yeah. 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.320 They don't even have enough room for their own kennel. 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:36.559 Yeah. 00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.639 They got them in cages, it smells horrible. 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:39.039 Oh, yeah. 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.599 And they're just like, we need people to come get these dogs. 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.480 It's mostly pit bulls and huskies. 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.400 Yeah, we have my girl's a pit bull. 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:57.760 She's an American bully, but like she's basically a pit bull breed, and I always feel like so scared for her, you know, because and she's a baby, she's like the little little Frenchie. 00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:58.960 That's what you gotta watch out for. 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:00.239 She's the ink biter. 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.639 The pit bull, she's super sweet, man. 00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:07.360 And so I have I have a very soft spot for for animals. 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:15.119 For all animals, really, but like dogs, I mean, I've just I'm a dog, I've been a dog mod my whole life, so Okay. 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:24.159 And then um I think the if I could change another thing, it would be the the school to prison pipeline, you know? 00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:40.320 And how a lot of a lot of children end up just being like led straight to to to jail and incarceration or or group homes and because of how our system is set up, you know. 00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:47.920 I think I think nurturing children is the first way that we can start becoming nurturing adults. 00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:48.559 Yeah. 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.880 Um you're gonna be a good mom, yeah. 00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:52.000 Thank you. 00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:53.920 One day maybe. 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.280 Umb me to the baby shower. 00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.119 I'm I'm bringing all kind of diapers. 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:04.719 Um the the writer in me is like, make a canvas for the kids. 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:15.039 Um I think also like children in that need to be adopted. 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:18.480 Like, I wish that all the kids could be taken care of. 00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:35.039 I know there's such a a huge problem in like the foster care system and and also like being taken advantage of and if we can like find every child a deserving parents, that would be wonderful. 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:37.920 So that's four, right? 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:39.679 I think that's four. 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:41.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:41.760 That's four. 00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:52.400 The fifth one, the fifth one, fixing our um fuck, there's so much. 00:53:52.880 --> 00:54:03.920 But I would say like, because I want to say like making food accessible and free, but also making it healthy, and then that leans into having free health care. 00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:05.199 Okay, okay. 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:11.760 So I think really just nourishing every human and giving them the opportunity to receive free health care. 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:12.400 Okay. 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:13.440 Yeah. 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:14.719 Fuck yeah. 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:15.840 You're good. 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:24.960 Man, I got to, I mean, I've been seeing you for a minute, but I never really got to talk to you and hear you and listen to you. 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:32.639 It's always been with other people or at the end of a show, or so this is my first time hearing you. 00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:41.760 I hope everybody that listens to this interview got to learn a little bit more about Vale and how superhuman she is and she's on that goddess level right now. 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:46.880 So um thank you for listening and um thank you, Val. 00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:47.920 Thank you. 00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:50.000 You're dope. 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.719 Um ain't no other it's no other woman like like Vail. 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.440 Promise you, when you meet her, it nah, it's nobody like her. 00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.239 So take care everybody. 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:03.519 Thank you.