บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode 265- Just When I Thought I Was Out, They Pull Me Back In!

00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:12.840 Nothing I do is particularly difficult. But one thing I 37 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.199 have realized is I've dug out my niche doing this. 38 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.400 I've found something that I'm decently good at. I've found 39 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:23.520 something that, you know, I've built something with. And you know, 40 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.360 when I was gone, so many people said to me, 41 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.199 you know, I'm so upset that you stop the show. 42 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:28.840 You know, I enjoy it, you know, I watch it 43 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.120 on YouTube or I check it out on iTunes or whatever, 44 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:34.400 and you know, I guess for me, I have a 45 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.840 game plan. You know, there are so many stories that 46 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.719 I still need to get into, so many stories that 47 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.120 pop up. You know. I feel like over the next 48 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.360 couple of years, you're gonna see some really interesting things 49 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.479 come out about the mafia, you know, whether it be indictments. 50 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:49.479 You know, there is still a mafia as we know, 51 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.759 and it is still active. And you know, to me, 52 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.120 I think the government's thought is they still want to 53 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:56.759 do what they can to bring it down. You know, 54 00:02:56.800 --> 00:03:01.120 will we see one lass indictment on some of these 55 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:04.560 guys that you're on YouTube now, right, you know, will 56 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.599 the Feds take a run at a guy like Joy Malino? 57 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.080 We'll see. I think there's still a lot of news 58 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:12.240 to be made. And what I'm finding is we have 59 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.800 a new frontier because it's not just mob informants that 60 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.759 have come out on social media. Now we start to 61 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.080 see that another person has joined and it's Tommy Petero, 62 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:27.039 which present a whole different side of things because we 63 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.240 had never really seen that. Right, this is a guy 64 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:32.759 who's doing life in prison. He's now on YouTube talking 65 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:36.120 to someone that says, it's his daughter about his life, 66 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.960 and it definitely provides a new wrinkle throw in. There 67 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.719 are still a lot of active things going on. You know, 68 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.879 we're seeing movement in this NBA poker gambling case, which 69 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.719 our show is partly about. Today, There's still things that 70 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.319 are going to go on and going to happen through in. 71 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:57.400 You know, I have a bunch of things that I 72 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:00.919 want to do from an interview standpoint, so I'm just 73 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.560 gonna kind of get to it, move past it. I stopped, 74 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:06.719 I took some time off. I had a great time. 75 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.000 You know. I went down to Atlantic City for two weeks. 76 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.120 I went out to Vegas for almost a week. You know, 77 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.400 I had my birthday. I had so many things that 78 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.839 went on. So it was nice to kind of get 79 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.600 away and not maybe worried about doing this show for 80 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:22.360 a bit. And I actually did this last year. If 81 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:28.360 you remember that said, you know, we're back. I think 82 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.639 the thing about Petera that that I will just comment 83 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.120 on before we get into the show is, look, obviously 84 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:38.480 it's a breach of America. You know, speaking to the 85 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.240 media is frowned upon, you know, and you can call 86 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.079 it what you want. Obviously, it's twenty twenty six. I 87 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.519 don't think the Banano crime family is particularly worried about 88 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.160 Thomas Peterra. Tommy Petera's never coming home. Obviously, a film 89 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.000 is about to be made about Petera. He has his 90 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.000 stories he wants to tell. I think he's probably at 91 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.439 this point an older, squirrely guy, and he just doesn't 92 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.680 really care what's really gonna happen, right, I mean, no 93 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.199 one's gonna do their bidding for the Banano crime family. 94 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:09.439 No one's gonna do anything that Tommy Peterra for being 95 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.079 real as well. I mean, Tommy Peterra is pretty old 96 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.800 at this point. It's not like he's, like I said, 97 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.839 ever coming home. He's seventy one years old. You know, 98 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.879 he's got what ten fifteen years left if that, and 99 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.040 it's all gonna be done in federal prison, you know, 100 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.639 if you can find a way to make a couple 101 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:31.160 of dollars get your story out. Look me, personally, I 102 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.639 don't see anything wrong with it. But again we also 103 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:40.040 have to ask ourselves from a mafia standpoint, is Tommy Peterra, 104 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:48.800 now should you be called an informant? No? But he 105 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.279 is breaching something you're not supposed to do. I think 106 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:58.160 this

has most to do though, with this film coming 107 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:04.279 out about tom starring Pete Davidson. Now I've talked about this, 108 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.959 I think, and I've heard Pete talk about it. He 109 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.759 seems like he has a lot of passion for this, 110 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:13.319 and I think anytime you put passion into something it 111 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.160 could be good. A lot of people will pooh pooh 112 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:18.800 it because they don't think Pete Davidson could act in 113 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.920 this way. You know, I didn't think Adam Sandler could 114 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:24.319 do a drama and he did it with uncut gems 115 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.759 and it was fantastic. I think it more has to 116 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.639 do though, with the fact that Philip Carlo is on 117 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.600 this project or involved with this project posthumously. Philip Carlo 118 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:39.720 died in twenty ten, but his books are going to 119 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:43.680 be featured and have something to do with this film, 120 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.279 and I think the thought is Tommy doesn't want that 121 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.439 story told by Philip Carlo out there. And if you've 122 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:55.680 watched some of the videos about Tommy from Tommy, he 123 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.959 discusses Philip Carlo He's not happy with the way he's 124 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.759 being portrayed. And I think again that goes back to 125 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:06.920 the film. I'm sure there will be people that wonder, 126 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.639 you know, how do I check out this Tommy Karate stuff. 127 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:15.439 It's a channel called Tommy Karate Petera Speaks, and you 128 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.079 could find that on YouTube. I don't believe it's anywhere else. 129 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:25.000 I will admit I did attempt to contact this person 130 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:30.759 about her father. I did not get a response. I 131 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.879 respect the fact that they want to just keep everything 132 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.519 their own IP. So yeah, as far as her, I 133 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.000 don't really care to interview her. I do want to 134 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:46.959 speak to him, but again, you know, I also will say, 135 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.839 like Tommy is calling out informants. You know, I've noticed 136 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.199 he hasn't called that John Gotti JUNR, which again, I mean, 137 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:57.600 this is kind of some of my problems. But we'll 138 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.399 kind of see where this continues. They haven't released video 139 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:05.040 and that involved Tommy in about three weeks. We'll see 140 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.360 if if they stop or what's gonna go on. But 141 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.600 at any rate, I hope all of you have had 142 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:14.120 a good couple of months. I have good to be 143 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:17.279 back and we're gonna turn up the volume. We're gonna 144 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.000 get back to some of the biographies, kind of really 145 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.399 expand on some of these folks. Today's episode, I really 146 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:27.360 wanted to share with all of you because I think 147 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:33.039 it's important. It's with a woman named Marissa. If you've 148 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:36.720 ever watched mob Wive, Mrisa was in season six. Marissa 149 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.799 is from Staten Island. She is currently in a relationship 150 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:45.440 with someone the government says is an active mobster. He 151 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.360 is a person who was involved allegedly in that NBA 152 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:51.960 gamble the case. His name is Thomas Gelardo. Her and 153 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.480 I talk about their relationship, him in his current life, 154 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.519 what he's up to currently in federal prison, and why 155 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:04.360 she is unhappy with Jerry Capecchi, the longtime and legendary 156 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:09.159 mob writer and reporter. She feels that he was regarded 157 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.840 in a way her boyfriend that he isn't. There was 158 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:17.879 a rumor that at one point Thomas Gelardo was going 159 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.559 to cooperate. Whether he is or he isn't. I'm not 160 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.320 going to really offer much of my opinion. This is 161 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.519 simply her opinion, I asked her. She expounded on it. 162 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.240 I discussed the fact that people say this and say that. 163 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:39.320 Do I think it's absolutely possible that Gelardo wavered with 164 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:43.960 flipping I bet he. I'm sure he sat down and 165 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:47.840 heard them out. Whether he agreed or didn't. That's not 166 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.679 I don't know. Capecie seems to think that he did 167 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.360 clearly though. On June eleventh, he did appear in court 168 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.559 and is going to continue to battle his case. Now 169 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:01.639 I don't think he's going to battle. I think he's 170 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:03.720 waiting for a plea and when he gets it, he'll 171 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.639 take it and he'll go to prison, and he's gonna 172 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:15.240 get five plus years. He is allegedly involved in a assault 173 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.720 involving these games, so he's going to get prison time 174 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:17.279 and he's going to go to the Feds for it. 175 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.679 That's as if he's allowed to

offer and get an 176 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:23.679 offer to plea. We'll see if he does. But I 177 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.600 thought this was a good interview versus an interesting person. 178 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:30.720 Definitely loyal, you know, I'll get for that, and you know, 179 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.039 in a world where it doesn't seem like there's much 180 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.240 loyalty left when it comes to women and their men, 181 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.519 she kind of is a throwback to the old woman, 182 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.759 you know, the old type of wife. So hopefully you 183 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.639 enjoy it. We'll be back next week with another episode. 184 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.360 I will always urge any of you that are listening 185 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:53.879 if there is an organized crime topic, you know, whether 186 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.360 it be the Mafia, black gangsters, whatever. If there's an 187 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:59.120 organized crime topic, guess that you have a connection to 188 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:01.879 be like an interview or just a topic you want 189 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.480 me to talk about here on the show. I'm always 190 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:09.720 open to folks interests. I've done many shows that people 191 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.840 have recommended or asked me to do. And yeah, all 192 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.200 you have to do is send me an email The 193 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:21.399 sit Down seven seven seven at gmail dot com. The 194 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:26.080 sit Down seven seven seven at gmail dot com. So, 195 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.080 without further ado, I appreciate you all having me back. 196 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:32.919 Hope you come back to listen week after week. And yeah, 197 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.600 here's my interview with Marissa on the sit Down. As 198 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:42.679 many of you know, over a year ago, multiple people 199 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:47.000 that the government say are connected to the Mafia were 200 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:51.399 arrested in a large case involving poker games and all 201 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:55.200 sorts of things in New York City. The FBI director 202 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.279 discussed it. He came out with a press conference, talked 203 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.679 about how it was a groundbreaking. Some of the people 204 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:06.360 involved we've heard before, people like Joe Lanni, Viggiario Junior, 205 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.759 all sorts of people, Ernie I, Yello, Joe Lanni, all 206 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:14.440 sorts of guys. One of the people arrested was a 207 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:20.080 guy that the government refers to as Tommy Juice, and 208 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:23.159 I got to know someone very close to him. And recently, 209 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.840 over the last couple of months, Gangland News and Jerry 210 00:12:26.919 -->

00:12:34.639 Kapisi put out a pretty questionable and controversial discussion about Gelada, 211 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:38.480 who has been in prison since his arrest last year. Today, 212 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:42.200 who she got in touch with me. His girlfriend, Marissa 213 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.879 is here and we're gonna talk a little bit about her, 214 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:49.960 about her relationship with Tom and about Tom's case. Marissa, 215 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.480 we've seen you before, Okay, if people have watched Mob Wives, 216 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.120 they saw you. In fact, you're doing some stuff with 217 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.960 Renee and those ladies. Now you and I have been chatting, 218 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:02.759 kind of got to know you a little bit. You're 219 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.840 not very happy with certain things. I think you're more 220 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.559 not happy with the way that your boyfriend is being 221 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.200 kind of pushed out there and how some people have 222 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.679 talked about him. I guess, first of all, thanks for 223 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:15.240 coming on with me. I've tried to get you on 224 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:18.159 for a while. You've been a little apprehensive just because 225 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.120 of the court cases stuff. Because right now your boyfriend 226 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.720 is in prison and he is fighting a case. So 227 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.399 thanks for coming on with me. I appreciate it and 228 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:27.799 thanks for having me, Jeff. 229 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:29.639 I mean, yeah, you know, the case has been going 230 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:36.039 on since late October, right about ten months, and there 231 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.399 was a write up about him from somebody who's supposed 232 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.399 to be relevant in the theme for a while now. 233 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.279 And I have a few things to say about it. 234 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.159 Well, we'll just say it. It was Jerry Kipishi. Okay, now 235 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.840 again I've talked to Jerry. I know Jerry, as MRSA said, 236 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.440 Jerry has been doing this for a long time. Jerry 237 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.759 is what most people what I would call the godfather 238 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:02.879 of this whole world? Is he older? Now? Sure? Has 239 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:07.039 he said and made assumptions in the past. Yes, a 240 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.480 lot of people will talk about the fact that Jerry 241 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.159 Kapeci has referenced people as being informants, and it's some 242 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:17.440 instances there isn't paperwork on it. So I said, before 243 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.000 we get into everything, you were on Mob Wives. Okay, 244 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:25.519 you've kind of been around these types of people for years. 245 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:30.200 I guess just kind of tell me how you met Tom. 246 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:32.399 You know what, what what do we need to know 247 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:34.279 about him? 248 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:35.200 How I met Tom? 249 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:40.759 Tom actually reached out to me after seeing me on TV. Wow, 250 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:47.200 Aaron yeah, tried a little bit to reach out. I 251 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:50.519 don't look at my messages or anything. Uh, he's seen that. 252 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:52.879 So he wound up reaching to a best friend of mine. 253 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:55.960 Reaching out to a best friend of mine, and my 254 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:57.279 friend was like, listen, this. 255 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:58.159 Guy hit me up. 256 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:00.399 You know, what do you want to do about I 257 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.080 was like, all right, screen him. So she screened him 258 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.600 for a couple of weeks, and then after a while 259 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:07.519 I was like, all right, I can talk to him. 260 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.679 And then I started talking to him and we've been 261 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:11.679 together ever since. 262 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:13.679 Now, how long ago was that? 263 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:15.759 Ten years? 264 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:19.159 Oh? Wow? Yeah, you were on that show a long 265 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:19.600 time ago. 266 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.759 It seems like, yeah, it actually aired ten years ago. 267 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:27.799 Yeah, okay, so did you You didn't know him obviously beforehand, 268 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.519 did you? I guess a lot. 269 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:36.320 We actually had mutual friends growing up. Supposedly I was 270 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:40.879 in one of his Hampton's houses one night, didn't even 271 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.080 know and uh, I don't know. I guess we weren't 272 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.519 meant to meet them, but we wound up meeting after 273 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:47.960 the show. 274 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:53.240 Yeah, so where are you from? Originally sat N Island? Okay, 275 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.679 so you know you obviously know about that type of world, 276 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:02.360 right or what they alleged he's a part of Did 277 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.559 you know that he was involved with crime? I mean, 278 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:09.399 obviously he's committed crimes, right, He's had cases involved. Did that? 279 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.879 Did you worry about that? Did that bother you? Did 280 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:12.600 you care about that? 281 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:14.840 No? I mean, listen where I come from. 282 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:22.080 You know it's very predominant, predominantly Italian, right, So, I 283 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:24.320 mean he was nothing more than a street. 284

00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.320 Guy like the rest of them, and that doesn't you 285 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:30.279 didn't care about that? No? Okay, you like that type 286 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:30.600 of guy? 287 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.919 Yeah, I guess so, I guess you could. I mean, 288 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.639 you know, it's the typical New York boy. 289 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:39.200 I'm just gonna be honest, Mersa. I mean, you're obviously 290 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.720 a beautiful girl. He's an attractive guy. You look good together. 291 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.200 I can't lie. I will say. I mean he sounded 292 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:48.720 quite he sounded quite persistent with you. You know, he 293 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:50.960 put in some time, put in some effort. You gotta 294 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:55.320 respect that, right. Yeah. So would you say, like your 295 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:58.279 relationship has it been pretty good? Has it been tumultuous 296 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.639 at all? You know, obviously those guys live common different 297 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:02.559 life in a way. 298 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.240 I mean, you know it was always a little bit 299 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:10.480 of toxicity, I guess, But I love me a persistent man. 300 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.000 Okay, So, as you said, he was arrested last year. Okay, 301 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.200 you know, obviously he's had things in the past that 302 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.599 these death You actually were a little upset at me 303 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:23.799 at one point when I did something on Tom obviously 304 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.039 I think you know what I'm talking about. 305 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:30.319 Yeah, like your first uh, I guess your first interview 306 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:31.240 about it, right. 307 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.839 Yeah, I did. Well. Look, I mean at one point 308 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.759 he was with another woman, or they say he was. 309 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.759 Yeah, it was an ex girlfriend from like twenty years ago. 310 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.799 Now they alleged that he was abusive. 311 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.880 No, in fact, I mean he literally was put in 312 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:54.319 jail wrongfully with that one, and he wound up beating 313 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:54.839 that case. 314 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.720 Right now, Remember a lot of the time they don't 315 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.960 ever bring that up, you know that they allege someone 316 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.480 does something, then they get that case beat in court, 317 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:03.559 and they don't want to bring it up all of 318 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:05.920 a sudden. But be that as it may, look, he's 319 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.839 had his issues. We've all had our issues. Right now, though, 320 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.240 Tom Gelardo, your boyfriend is in prison. He's one of 321 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.039 the only people being held in this case. And if 322 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.000 we're being honest, this is a fairly trivial case. It 323 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.359 involves poker games, alleged poker games. There's a little bit 324 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:24.640 of violence that they allege youent on, and that's one 325 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:26.559 of the reasons your boyfriend is in jail. One of 326 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.240 the things that they contend that he did was he 327 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:33.880 was involved in some violent acts. You also, and I 328 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:36.039 think we were probably right in this. You were a 329 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.480 little upset with some of the things that I said 330 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:42.279 in terms of some people have stated he was a 331 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.200 little ostentatious or gaudy with his spending of money. I mean, 332 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:49.119 do you do you want to get into his actual 333 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:50.319 case what exactly? 334 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:52.440 I mean, Yeah, listen, I'm not here to you know, 335 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.400 throw people onto the bus, name other people's names. I 336 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.920 was more or less pissed off about the gangland right up. 337 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.720 You didn't know much before me and you started speaking. 338 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:06.880 You know, you put that post up on Instagram, and 339 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:08.880 I you know, I just hate when his past gets 340 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.200 brought up because it's so irrelevant. 341 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.119 You know, but that's all you guys know. 342 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.559 And like you said, you know, no one talks about 343 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.480 how he was wrongfully accused in that case and he 344 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.759 actually beat it. I mean, if people do their research 345 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:27.279 in google that case, it will show that he he 346 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.960 did beat that case. And I hate when people just 347 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.480 go with the initial narrative, right because he's not a 348 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:36.680 bad guy. If he really was a woman abuser or 349 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:39.799 a beater, I really wouldn't be with him. I never 350 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:43.440 experienced that, So I just feel like, you know, a 351 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.359 tough guy, strong guy, a big guy, they get profiled, 352 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:50.119 and you know, I'm going to stick up for mine, right. 353 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:52.599 So most of what you were upset it maybe not 354 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.240 necessarily me because I didn't say it, but other people have. 355 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:57.759 I will tell you, and I told you this. There 356 00:19:57.759 --> 00:19:59.599 were people that I spoke to in the street, or 357

00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:01.240 people that say they're in the street or we know 358 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.240 that are in the street, that I know they a 359 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.119 led certain things. All he was moved and it all 360 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:10.319 led really to this this article by Jerry Kapisi at 361 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:16.400 Ganglin News where he essentially he doesn't come out and say, hey, 362 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.880 I think this happened. But there's the contention that the 363 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:25.559 reason your boyfriend was sent to another location was due 364 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.440 to him speaking to the police. 365 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.079 Let's get the story strat first. 366 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:32.799 He is one of two out of thirty four people 367 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.799 on this case that are in jail, one of two 368 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.039 that have been in for ten months, the only one 369 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:43.039 doing his time. If that man was out in the 370 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.440 second circuit, like APESHI said, right then, who am I 371 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:51.279 visiting every saturday? Who's behind those bars, who's behind that glass? 372 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.920 Who am I talking to on the phone every day? No, 373 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:55.480 he don't know what I mean. 374 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.839 Don't tell me where my man is because he's not 375 00:20:57.920 --> 00:20:59.519 in my bed at night. 376 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:01.960 And I just don't like the narrative. 377 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:07.079 I mean, you've got about six people who already took 378 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.759 a plate that doesn't ring a bill. You got people 379 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:14.480 who wore wires. There's no right up about that. There's 380 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:16.720 so much to talk about, But you're talking about the 381 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.640 one man that has been stripped from everything, including his family. 382 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:23.920 And I'm sitting here to set the record straight. My 383 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:27.000 man is not out. My man hasn't been out. My 384 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.240 man got denied bail five times. And I don't really 385 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.880 like the narrative. I mean, he didn't even say allegedly. 386 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.759 He said it with such emphasis, like he was so 387 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.720 certain on what's going on in my life that I 388 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.200 think it's disgusting. But why is there no right up 389 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.880 about anybody else? I mean, you got Hennen in New 390 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.319 York Times five page article. You got so much bullshit 391 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.119 out there, but you're talking about the one guy that's 392 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.279 behind bars right now. 393 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:54.720 Well, it don't makes sense to me. 394 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.240 For the record, this is one of my first videos 395 00:21:57.319 --> 00:21:59.559 back from I took a hiatus from doing this, as 396 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:03.680 you know. But look, I've absolutely talked very openly about 397 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.640 Shane Hendon being an informant. I've said that for months. 398 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.400 You have also, and from what I've heard from other people, 399 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:13.279 it's come out that other people are cooperating in this 400 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:17.759 case in terms of people involved with the actual poker themselves. 401 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.079 And you've mentioned you've seen that in discovery, right. 402 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.440 Yeah, there's a lot of discovery out I mean, at 403 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:27.599 this point, everybody seen the discovery, they know exactly for 404 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:29.880 the most part, who to point fingers at? 405 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:30.720 What's going on? 406 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:31.079 Now? 407 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:32.480 Why things make sense? 408 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:36.440 I'm sure there's a little bit more to come before 409 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.480 everyone gets a plea deal. You gotta understand, six people 410 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:42.240 already took a play. The rest of them are still 411 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:46.599 waiting for a plea deal. I mean, that doesn't say much. 412 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.279 Let me ask you so in this article, Okay, at 413 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.759 one point towards the bottom, specific details are hard to 414 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.039 come by, but sources say that about two weeks ago, 415 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.200 the four inmates were all placed in the shoe. Now, 416 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:05.960 the four inmates he's referring to are Tommy Angela Riggario Junior, 417 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:10.000 and two individuals connected to what they say is the 418 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:13.160 Gambino crime family. That they were all placed in the 419 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:17.240 shoe of the MDC because of a quote separation order 420 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:21.200 involving Gelato and the trio of Gambino family inmates. So 421 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:24.160 it's just say the Gambino gangsters remained in the shoe 422 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:28.400 when they were returned to general population. MDC officials turned 423 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.640 Gelato over to the US Marshals. Neither Agecy would disclose 424 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:36.079 any details about Juice's new found freedom. Okay, so is 425 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.279 there anything you know about those other people in this case? 426 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:41.799 Bottom line is you know they were all in the 427 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:46.839 same unit, and there was an order to separate all Italians. 428 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.839 Some are on

the case, some aren't on the case. 429 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.960 I think that was just a bullshit statement, But they 430 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.480 wanted to just separate them and put them. 431 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:57.319 In different units. 432 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:01.279 Now, MDC said that there was no room in the 433 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:04.200 other units, so they threw them in the shoe. What 434 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:06.400 I don't get is is you should have left them 435 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.480 where they were because they were in there for about 436 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.240 seven months at this point. 437 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.119 And what leave them where they are? 438 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.720 And then when there's an opening and other units move 439 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.880 them right? Why they all they threw them all in 440 00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:23.799 the shoe. I have no clue, but I mean you 441 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.839 threw them in the shoe. You revoked their rights, you 442 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.960 strip them from everything, and there was really no reason 443 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.519 as to why. You know, they couldn't get an answer, 444 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.799 lawyers couldn't get an answer, and it was just, Oh, 445 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:38.480 this is just the way it is, and you're going 446 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.559 to be here for a while now. I'm sorry, but MDC, 447 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:43.640 it's like a shithole. To me, it's like a third 448 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.440 world country. I couldn't believe how horrible that place was, 449 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.920 you know. I mean I had to visit him every Friday, 450 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.680 and witnessing this and then seeing him in the shoe, 451 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:53.839 it made me nauseous. 452 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.480 I mean, he was drinking water with his hand. 453 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.240 He wasn't allowed to have a raizor, I mean, and 454 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.599 it was just I can go on and on about 455 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:06.079 how bad the situation was. I just knew this isn't it. 456 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.279 You know, he's in here wrongfully as is. He should 457 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:11.079 be out on bail like everybody else. 458 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:13.000 But he's not. 459 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.359 And you just every month that I witnessed what's going on, 460 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.319 he's just getting treated worse and worse. 461 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:23.720 I mean, look, I've always said I do think there 462 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.079 are certain people that are of an Italian descent. And 463 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.720 look there's other groups as well that are profiled differently 464 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.720 than others in prison. Right, So for instance, like you 465 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:36.279 give certain people that like Paul Costellano, who is a 466 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:40.039 mob guy, was given bail even though he had murders 467 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.839 on his case. Right, your boyfriend allegedly was involved in 468 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.440 some poker games and maybe a dust up or two. 469 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.680 Do we even know why he's in prison still? It 470 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.480 is just because they say he's a violent guy. 471 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.559 Oh you know what, at first, that's what we were 472 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:01.599 really thinking, Like what okay? Originally, I mean, the judge 473 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:07.319 was just like, you have an arsenal of arsenal pocketnized 474 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:12.279 and paintball guns. This is it's like like like it 475 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.200 was a problem. We kept saying, or the lawyers kept 476 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.200 saying that it was legal. I don't understand what the 477 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.400 issue is, and the judge just kept saying, but their weapons, well, 478 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.839 if their weapons, I mean I could own them, you 479 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.119 could own them. Kids can buy them in stores. How 480 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.079 are they weapons? So that event really added up to 481 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.720 us up until the discovery that came out within the 482 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:34.640 last two months. 483 00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:38.720 And I really think I don't know. 484 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:39.279 I mean. 485 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:48.920 Between the Laire taps and the seven. 486 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:54.200 John Doees and obviously a lot of people chirping. 487 00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:00.000 That you're saying that there are seven informants in this case. 488 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.640 There are seven John does yes, right, I think that's 489 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.279 public knowledge. Yeah, And there are six people that took 490 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:09.880 early plea deals. 491 00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:13.440 Right, which again I just taking a plea right, Obviously 492 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:14.359 that's just a way. 493 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.720 To he can't take a plea deal in the first 494 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.440 couple of months on the case when there's thirty people 495 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.640 that didn't even get an offer, right, it doesn't make sense. 496 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.640 Well, look I have to ask them, I mean in 497 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.599 terms of being moved to the shoe like you were 498 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.559 obviously told us for a certain reason, for their retie 499 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.960 and whatever. I think a lot of people they'll have 500 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.839 to say, well, why did he get moved to, as 501 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.400 we know, a facility in New Jersey which is where 502 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:41.039 he is now. 503

00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.640 Completely fort for it, completely fought for it. 504 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.920 The lawyer fought tooth and out with the DA for 505 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.440 a couple of weeks about it, and usually the DA 506 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.039 will kind of like shut shit down if they didn't 507 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.559 think it was necessary. And uh, that was one thing 508 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:58.400 they didn't shut down, and they said, you know what, 509 00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.400 we're gonna We're gonna talk about this and revisit it. 510 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:05.200 We were pretty relentless with him moving into a better 511 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.880 type of atmosphere. I mean, he was wrongfully treated, and 512 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.319 by God's grace, we were able to move him. I mean, listen, 513 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:16.720 if for Jerio's lawyer or anybody else's lawyer fought the 514 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.359 fight we fought, they should have been moved as well. 515 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.240 I don't think anybody should be in that situation. 516 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:28.279 So obviously, again we go back to Kapechi. The assertion 517 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:32.279 was essentially that he was speaking to the Feds and 518 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.599 that's why they moved him. You're saying that's blatantly false. 519 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:38.240 And I also want to point out, and I'll give 520 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.200 you credit for this, I asked you to speak back 521 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.000 in early June, and you had mentioned to me like 522 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.200 there's court cases, and you told me you said, wait 523 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.440 till June. I think it was twelve June eleven. Yeah, 524 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.279 if he doesn't show or something looks weird, it will 525 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.799 come out then exactly. 526 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.920 If he really did do anything, anyone said, do you 527 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.079 think he'd be in court that just like a couple 528 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:02.880 of other faces that didn't show up that day. 529 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.160 And I have to say, look, I think Jerry gets 530 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.319 a lot of things right. Jerry is definitely good at this. 531 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:13.200 I've gotten things wrong, we all have. But he should 532 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:17.039 have re reported this when that happened, where he said, hey, 533 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:21.000 you know Tom showed up, probably wouldn't happened if he 534 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.119 was no good right said. 535 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.160 And I think that's what I wanted. I really wanted 536 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.839 him to just retract his statement. At this point, it's 537 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.599 okay to admit you're wrong, you know. Like my problem 538 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.160

is Ganglin's been around for so long and anybody who 539 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.079 reads those right. 540 00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.079 Ups are automatically going to assume that they're legit. Right. 541 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.119 I mean, even me, I've read up, I've read his stuff. 542 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.680 I'm not second guessing what he's writing. But this day 543 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.559 and age, or especially being in this situation and being 544 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.319 an insider looking out now versus an outsider looking in, 545 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.720 I'm like, oh shit, you're talking about my personal life 546 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.240 right now, and I know exactly what's going on, So 547 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.519 how fucking dare you talk shit like that in such 548 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:06.960 confidence and it's completely, like so completely far off from 549 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:07.640 the truth and. 550 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.359 Nauseated the shit out of me, and just the way the. 551 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.640 World's been going these days, it's like, Wow, you really 552 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:16.519 can't trust anything, you see, anything you hear. And I think, like, 553 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:20.119 that's such to have twenty years in this game, you 554 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:26.559 think you'd want to make sure everything you say and Dodd. 555 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.759 Longer than twenty years. He's been doing this for like 556 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:27.440 fifty years. 557 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.519 Well, you just took your fifty year career and you 558 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:31.160 kind of threw it. 559 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.240 Down the drain because now you're not even credible and 560 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.079 my eyes are anybody who knows my man in this situation. 561 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.400 You did say something very true. Look, the truth is 562 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.799 that if you read Ganglan now, the most most people 563 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.480 that read Ganglan are gangsters, right, people that are in 564 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.400 that life. They all read that stuff, and. 565 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:50.599 When you read it, you believe what the hell he. 566 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.720 Said for sure. Yeah, it's listen. I did think it 567 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:55.480 was a bit out of line. I'm not going to 568 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.400 tell you, Marisa, and I told you this straight up. 569 00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:58.960 I was honest with you when I spoke to you. 570 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.559 I heard some okay, but most of these people that speak, 571 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.319 they talk shit. You know. Some of the people that 572 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.839 told me this I think are credible. Some of them 573 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:13.240 not so credible. Uh. I've also learned that today's most 574 00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:16.480 of the people in that life are wash women. Now, Okay, 575 00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.759 they say things. Maybe maybe they're just jealous of him, right, 576 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.559 maybe they find you attractive and they're just jealous of him, 577 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.440 you know, and so they say some shit about him. 578 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.400 You know, I guess what's your overall thought on that world? Now? Like, 579 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.279 do you do you have anything to say on it? 580 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.960 What can I say about it? I mean, listen, there's like, 581 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.480 you know, the life. I mean, you know, people are 582 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:48.079 intrigued by it. Some people are disgusted by it. You know, 583 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.880 I've seen the good. 584 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.200 What are you you're intrigued? 585 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.400 I mean, I think it's just something that that I 586 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.119 was around in my life. That's all I knew. You know, 587 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.279 to me, this is just normal. But you know, I 588 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.920 just feel like, you know, these people, I don't want 589 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.200 to knock anybody, really, but this day and age, it's 590 00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.480 such a completely different world, and you know, half these 591 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.359 people just you know, they're not what it was. 592 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:21.359 Well, a lot of people like to talk. 593 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:26.039 Half these people are you know, labeled just because they're 594 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.000 yes man's I don't know. I mean, the only thing 595 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.559 I'm concerned of right now is just really him. 596 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.400 I know who he is, I know what he's not, 597 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.400 and I really wouldn't be with a punk. I wouldn't. 598 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.559 Okay, we look, I believe. I mean, I've spoken to 599 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.160 you a good amount. I believe that. So you're basically 600 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.279 saying and you would ask to speak to me, and 601 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:55.279 I told you, okay, we'll do it. And again we 602 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.680 waited just because you wanted to wait for certain things. 603 00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.680 But yeah, this is what I want to say, June. 604 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.799 I waited for June eleventh as much as I wanted 605 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.720 to talk to you the second that rite up came out. 606 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.839 But instead of like premeditating what was going to happen, 607 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.640 I just wanted people's heads to spin a little bit 608 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.680 and think what they wanted to think, because I said 609 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.960 to myself, if my man walks through those doors

at 610 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.839 June eleventh, everything you thought, everything you heard is going 611 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.359 to be thrown out the window, right, because if he 612 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.960 didn't walk through those doors, it maybe it made sense, 613 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.480 but he was the only one to walk out those doors. 614 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.319 Yeah, no, one hundred percent. So you know again, we 615 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.880 would assert that the thought that he was cooperating or 616 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.839 is cooperating at this point doesn't look like that's true. 617 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.599 And he's going to face the case. He'll either plead guilty, 618 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:43.759 he'll either go to trial. 619 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:49.359 And I think this, nobody's going to trial, right. You 620 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.720 don't win in the fence, and nobody's going to trial. 621 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.160 So we waiting for the play. 622 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.039 We're going to take the play, right and you know, 623 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.000 well it goes well for everybody come next year. 624 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.000 Right. So the truth is, you know, and you know this, 625 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.960 he's likely going to go to prison. Right. You seem 626 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.719 like a little woman, right, you seem respectable, and that's 627 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.239 just part of the game for you, right. Yeah. 628 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.760 I mean listen, at the end of the day, by 629 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.559 the time it's well said and done, I'd like to 630 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:20.360 think his time. 631 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:21.960 Is served, you know. I mean, he's ahead of the 632 00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.000 game right now. He shouldn't be in there. 633 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.239 But I'm trying to think of the positive out of it, 634 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:27.679 and you. 635 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:28.639 Know, time spent. 636 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.760 So you know, hopefully he is out by the time 637 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.039 he gets the plea or by the time they get sentenced, 638 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:39.119 or he has to serve. 639 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.199 A little bit more. I don't know. But you know 640 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.760 I'm here for the long haul. I can't. 641 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:49.360 I can't walk away from someone in this state. I 642 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.840 just can't do it. I love him, I've been hand 643 00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:52.559 through it all. 644 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.440 I gotta rock with him. 645 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:57.360 I think a lot of people will watch this and 646 00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.480 be respectful of that. You know, you're you're kind of 647 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.400 an old school type of woman. They don't have them 648 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.960 and make them anymore. What kind of guys tom like? 649 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:04.199 What? What? 650 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:05.800 You know? What's he like? 651 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.679 And he's like an old school kind of guy. I mean, 652 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.880 we're kind of like old souls, both of us. We're young, 653 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.920 but you know, been around the block and back and 654 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.039 have the same kind of morale and loyalty in that aspect. 655 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:24.599 You seem like the type of woman that if Tommy again, 656 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.639 he won't but if he were to get fifty years 657 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.679 you would. You'd be okay with that. And you just 658 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:29.400 say that. 659 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.119 I mean, I wout to be okay. I definitely be 660 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.920 kicking agreement. But I mean, what am I going to do? 661 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.079 Would I be crazy enough to wait? Probably? That's my guy? 662 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:39.239 What can I do? 663 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.159 Yeah? You know, And I will say and I don't 664 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.880 want to bring other people in this case up, but 665 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.719 I will and I did a video on a person 666 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.119 in this case, a guy called Joe Lannie, who is 667 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.280 a person who allegedly beaty woman and her husband in 668 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:58.159 a parking lot. And he was giving bail in this case. 669 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.920 So every scenario possible that you could think of someone 670 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.360 was probably going through or been through. 671 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.480 And everyone got bail. 672 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.639 Like everyone it's like really said that he got the 673 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.599 and stick of it, but he does. 674 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.239 Doesn't make sense to me. I mean again, I've been 675 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.639 around the block with this stuff, and like, look, the 676 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.000 other defendant in the case that's in prison Rugario. There 677 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.519 there was a contention that years ago he did threatn 678 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:28.480 a witness and and look they're always going to do 679 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.000 that when it comes to like witness intimidation. But I 680 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.039 mean again, like some of the people in this case 681 00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.760 are pretty bad people in terms of some of the 682 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.280 things they've allegedly done. Which by the way, Joe Lonnie 683 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.239 played guilty into that case, so that's a whole nother case. 684 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.119 So yeah, it's definitely weird. It's bizarre. I definitely feel 685 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.880 bad for the

guy. Look, if he did what he did, 686 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:50.519 like he'll have to pay for those crimes. 687 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.039 But but he's still out he's still with his family, 688 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.519 He's still able to breathe and do what he wants. 689 00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:57.440 And that's what kills me. 690 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:01.960 It's like, why wasn't my man given the same right 691 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.519 as everybody else, the same privilege as everybody else, you know, 692 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.840 I mean, he's not a flight risk. He knows how 693 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:13.000 to do his time. He's done enough time. He's not 694 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:13.519 one of. 695 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.440 The six that took an early play. 696 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.760 So to talk about him like he's one of them 697 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.480 made me nauseated. 698 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.960 You know. And you you know one other thing. I 699 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.760 do want to mention you you had said to me. 700 00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.320 And look again, a lot of this stuff is starting 701 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.599 to come out, like I've contended for like months and 702 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.320 since this came out, like it's pretty clear if you 703 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:36.639 look into these indictments, there are certain names that are 704 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.039 in all of them. They're not in prison. There's reason 705 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:44.760 for that, right, most notably mister Hennan. Right, there's a 706 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.320 guy in this case, Seth Trustman. Okay, if you know 707 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:52.639 anything about Seth Trustman, like I mean, we'll just say 708 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.719 it like and we're I don't want to be the 709 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.360 Kapeci type where we're just saying these things, but you 710 00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.599 have to just read through and all the this stuff 711 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.920 does come out eventually through attorneys and things. 712 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.599 So uh yeah, there's a lot to say about that. 713 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:06.760 I really don't want to throw anyone into the bus, 714 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:12.920 even though they threw my guy onto the bus. But yeah, 715 00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.760 a lot of people that I thought were solid were 716 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.000 not solid, probably the reason why this is all going 717 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:26.679 down to begin with. I just know that the one 718 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.440 that was solid is the one that's in jail. 719 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.079 Very good, and I'm glad you were able to give 720 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.960 your opportunity to speak. I will ask you one other question, 721 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:37.000 why speak to me? 722 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:39.559 I don't know. 723 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.480 I mean we went back and forth for a little bit. 724 00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.079 You know, you did your write up. We spoke briefly 725 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:48.360 after that. Uh you never really gave me like a 726 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.159 bad vibe. You know, we had a few conversations. I 727 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.440 felt comfortable and I said, you know what, out of 728 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.679 all the outlets that I had and the people that 729 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.519 wanted me to speak, I kind of felt comfortable talking 730 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:01.920 to you. 731 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.000 I appreciate it, and you weren't. 732 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.239 Biased like harpahe and. 733 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.159 Uh right, listen, I will say this, Mercia. 734 00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.519 The opportunity and you kind of saw the truth you've 735 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.559 read between the lines, and I respected that. 736 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.679 Thank you, and I know that you would have got 737 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:20.800 my voice out the right way. 738 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.760 And in the end we'll be a little larrogant. You 739 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.239 motherfuckers on here. No I ring bells. You know I 740 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.760 moved the needle. You know I get the word out. 741 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.039 Risa knew that too, and we thank her for coming 742 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.599 on here. I do want to shout you out, Mercy. 743 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.880 And you didn't ask me to like promo anything. You 744 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.920 were just like I want to speak, I want to 745 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:41.840 I want to tell my story. I think you're a 746 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.159 cool check. I'm happy for you. I hope you in top. 747 00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:50.079 Maybe you get married someday. Maybe you know what you 748 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.360 are doing. Are we still doing the Mob Wives tour? 749 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.239 Is that over yet or so? 750 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.039 We just did last two weeks. We hit up a 751 00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:02.719 few states, New York, Sylvania, Boston. So we just got 752 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.039 back from Boston. It was fun, you know. We got 753 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.079 more to come, more states to come, and hopefully in 754 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.480 talks of a new show soon. 755 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.960 I got to tell you, you know, and I've told you know. 756 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.599 Renee is not a big fan of mine, but others are, 757 00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.800 and I told them that was a great show, great idea. 758 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.039 I would love to watch it again. I watched it 759 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.079 when it was on. So, by the way, Johnny Bart 760 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.119 was at the Boston show, I believe he was. 761 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:30.719 Yeah,

yeah, Johnny's really cool. 762 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.480 Yeah he's been on this show. He's good dude. So yeah, 763 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.119 real quick, what do you do with that? You just 764 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:37.239 like have like a little talk. 765 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.480 We had like Q and a meet and greet. 766 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:43.079 We told we spoke about like behind the scenes, what 767 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:47.599 really went on during filming. You know, people see one 768 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.440 version on TV, but they don't really know what goes 769 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.920 on behind closed doors. So we kind of set the 770 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:55.760 record straight with a lot of things. 771 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.639 Well, maybe you can do me a solid. Maybe you 772 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.639 could talk to Renee for me at her on here. 773 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.480 I have some things I'd like to say to her. 774 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.960 We've been we've had a little contentious relationship over the years, 775 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:10.920 but you know, I heard I heard less. Nonetheless, I 776 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:16.000 wish Tom all the best. Obviously, he seems like he's 777 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.360 just gonna take what comes and that's that. I mean, 778 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.800 he's been in jail almost a year now. You know, 779 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.519 going to prison is not easy, and going to the 780 00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.800 prison that he's been at and the other prison, they're 781 00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.000 not exactly these ain't club fed. The MDC is a 782 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.079 shithole at every level, so ship. 783 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.360 Hole and you have to really experience it to know. 784 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.239 I swear I think that's the shoe gave me PTSD. 785 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.360 I was like, I never want to come up here again. 786 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.519 And I mean, I want to put in a perspective. 787 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.599 It's not like Tom is charged with a murder or 788 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:54.840 like violent arson or something. And again we're talking about 789 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.519 people who allegedly were running games, someone got into it 790 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.000 with someone else, Like we're not exactly talking about like. 791 00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:08.119 Listen, if you're not a pedophile and arson is a 792 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.119 killer whatever, I mean, you got to be on some 793 00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:14.320 top tier levels be put in that hole up there. 794 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:20.039 And this kid is like, it doesn't compare, it doesn't 795 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:21.599 compare to what all these. 796 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:22.159 Men were doing. 797 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.039 It doesn't the time does not fit the crime, and 798 00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:27.440 they just

throw the book at Italians and I'm kind 799 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.719 of looking at it like this is something like racial profiling, 800 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.039 Like I really don't like the way they treat Italians 801 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.239 because there's so many people out there that have done 802 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.840 so many worse crimes and like repeat offenders and they 803 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.719 just get out every time they do something. But meanwhile, 804 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.599 you're holding this poor guy that allegedly did something and 805 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.159 you're treating him worse than them, And it's just like 806 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.360 the justice system has to do better. 807 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.480 It has I think that's more what my problem would be. 808 00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.599 Like again, if he did what he did and we 809 00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:03.079 have to clear whatever, fine, But like I don't know 810 00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.719 if he should have been in prison this whole time 811 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.000 at least No, definitely not. 812 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.639 I mean, just like you said, there's people on this 813 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.000 case who there's. 814 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.440 Worst going on, right, oh for sure, just their home 815 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:15.599 and there I considered a danger. 816 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.960 Then why is mine? I don't get that well. 817 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.960 And that's the thing that I never quite understood about 818 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.599 the Feds because, like they contended during the Diddy case 819 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.079 that Diddy was this really bad dude, like real bad dude. 820 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.880 They gave him bail, right, So, like I guess, I 821 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.039 just don't quite understand how it all works. This is 822 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:39.039 a guy who allegedly tried to tamper with witnesses. This 823 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.199 is a guy who obviously is the flight risks. He 824 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:42.920 got all the money in the world and go anywhere. 825 00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.599 He gave him bail, you know, So it's it's weird. 826 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.320 One last question I just thought of it. I want 827 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.320 to ask you if, when, if and when Tom pleads guilty, 828 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:57.960 and Kapechi like, do you expect him to issue correction? 829 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.239 I mean, if he was a good journalist, he would 830 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.679 correct it, right. I mean, you don't just say something 831 00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:05.960 to say something and then walk away like you never 832 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:06.360 said it. 833 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:08.079 I mean there's, like I said, there's. 834 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.840 So much more to write up about that's really black 835 00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.199 and white right now on record in the discovery and 836 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:16.800 you're not even talking about who. 837 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.079 Wore a wire? Well, and I think Jerry does play 838 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.880 the game of like he asserts something, but doesn't that 839 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:26.280 exactly say it, but he asserts that something is going on. 840 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:29.679 So like, so you assert something's going on, but you 841 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.039 talk confidence about my man. 842 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:34.480 Well, but yeah, and that's my thing, Like he never 843 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:36.559 comes out and says like what he's saying, but he 844 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.159 kind of asserts it. So like when you read it, 845 00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.840 it's like, oh, he's definitely doing this, and people just 846 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.000 start talking. You know, it's I don't know, get I 847 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.360 get where you're coming from. For sure. Well, look, you 848 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.199 have to keep us updated. I mean I'll stay updated 849 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:51.800 on what's going on we are seeing. Please in this 850 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.400 case obviously, is you said people are deciding to not 851 00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.599 go to trial and uh, I'm sure Tommy will we'll 852 00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.320 figure it out. But nonetheless, I appreciate you joining me, 853 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.360 and yeah, anything else you want to say. 854 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.920 On it, Oh, just thanks for having me, you know, 855 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.199 thank you for letting me speak my peace. And you know, 856 00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.800 right the wrongs, I make them right, but I wanted 857 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:16.840 it on record. You know, my man is in fact 858 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.920 in jail. He's been doing his time since everyone got 859 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.000 picked up, and he's going to continue to do his 860 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:25.800 time until they play out. 861 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.360 I will say, young men, all you young men out here, 862 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:31.679 this is the kind of woman you want to get yourself. 863 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.320 One will speak by you, go to bat for you. 864 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.159 Listen to that good advice. Tom's got a good one 865 00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.719 at least when he comes home. Either way, MRSA, thank 866 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.679 you for joining me. I really appreciate you. Good luck 867 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.199 with everything whatever you do next. And yeah, I'll talk 868 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.039 to you soon, all right, Thanks Jeff, beautiful, Thank you. 869 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:58.719 Bye,