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a co-worker and make them judge you. 43 00:01:45,073 --> 00:01:48,106 These are things ~ we would love for you to do, 44 00:01:48,106 --> 00:01:50,468 but no, really, thank you all for doing that. 45 00:01:50,468 --> 00:01:52,319 We're climbing. I mean, granted, 46 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:54,791 I don't know how many liberal podcasts there are, 47 00:01:54,791 --> 00:01:57,513 but you gotta figure there's a couple hundred at least. 48 00:01:57,513 --> 00:02:00,016 Yeah, right. 49 00:01:58,212 --> 00:02:01,496 For sure. We're we're coming for Ezra Clyde's spot. 50 00:02:01,646 --> 00:02:03,697 yeah. Al Franken was high on the list. 51 00:02:03,697 --> 00:02:05,259 We're coming for him. He's funny, 52 00:02:04,958 --> 00:02:07,792 Yep. Nice guy, actually. 53 00:02:05,259 --> 00:02:06,259 but we got 54 00:02:07,625 --> 00:02:11,586 Not good dude, but anyways, ~ yeah, 55 00:02:11,586 --> 00:02:12,596 that I thought that was pretty cool. 56 00:02:12,596 --> 00:02:15,137 That's the first time I've ever seen us appear on any list, 57 00:02:15,137 --> 00:02:16,878 period. So good 58 00:02:15,924 --> 00:02:16,924 Yeah, that's great. 59 00:02:16,878 --> 00:02:21,319 news, yeah. But before we get into the list and all the midterm stuff 60 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:23,289 and everything like this, I was wondering, 61 00:02:23,289 --> 00:02:27,320 Rick, so I'm a registered so we both live in Massachusetts. 62 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,821 I'm a registered unenrolled or independent. 63 00:02:29,821 --> 00:02:31,352 Like I'm not registered as a Democrat. 64 00:02:31,352 --> 00:02:32,642 Are you registered Democrat? 65 00:02:32,792 --> 00:02:34,200 No s the same, unenrolled. 66 00:02:34,212 --> 00:02:37,092 Unenrolled, yeah. So I'm sure like the same as you then, 67 00:02:37,092 --> 00:02:41,645 like I get kind of an interesting spattering of political ads and like it's 68 00:02:41,645 --> 00:02:46,058 not just one or the other, it's kind of like a cocktail of nonsense. 69 00:02:46,058 --> 00:02:47,908 Is it the same with you? Like it's random. 70 00:02:48,058 --> 00:02:49,058 Yeah. 71 00:02:48,469 --> 00:02:52,291 Which is interesting, yeah, 'cause I don't just get flooded with act blue stuff like 72 00:02:52,291 --> 00:02:54,803 ~ a lot of our dem friends do. 73 00:02:54,803 --> 00:03:00,788 But one piece of mail that I've been getting recently and really f 74 00:03:01,261 --> 00:03:03,273 Just only really started to stop and think about it. 75 00:03:03,273 --> 00:03:06,656 Is anti Andrea James mailers. 76 00:03:06,656 --> 00:03:09,198 Have you gotten any of that? Do you know who Andrea James is? 77 00:03:09,348 --> 00:03:10,989 I've read something about this. 78 00:03:10,989 --> 00:03:13,136 I don't think I've received any. 79 00:03:13,286 --> 00:03:17,980 Interesting. So Andrea James is the socialist candidate of Massachusetts running 80 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:20,342 for governor. So there's Mara Healy, 81 00:03:20,342 --> 00:03:22,003 the current governor, the

Dem, 82 00:03:22,003 --> 00:03:25,330 Mike Minogue, the Republican, Minogue Menog, 83 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:27,247 whatever. And then Andrea James, 84 00:03:27,247 --> 00:03:32,591 the socialist candidate. She is not even remotely in the conversation for winning, 85 00:03:32,591 --> 00:03:35,153 right? I don't think she's polling well, 86 00:03:35,153 --> 00:03:37,394 even a little. I mean, no one I 87 00:03:37,072 --> 00:03:38,072 Right. 88 00:03:37,394 --> 00:03:38,565 don't think she's at the debates. 89 00:03:38,565 --> 00:03:40,297 She hasn't really participated. 90 00:03:40,291 --> 00:03:41,291 No, 91 00:03:40,732 --> 00:03:46,281 and Minogue isn't polling well either full in comparison to previous Republicans, 92 00:03:46,281 --> 00:03:49,477 so it's seen as a lock for a Healy's reelection. 93 00:03:49,627 --> 00:03:51,820 Exactly. And Healy is in you know, 94 00:03:51,820 --> 00:03:53,892 she's pretty good. She's not like incredible. 95 00:03:53,892 --> 00:03:56,234 She's not bad. She's good yeah. 96 00:03:56,234 --> 00:03:57,576 You know. I it's not surprising. 97 00:03:57,576 --> 00:04:00,109 She'd have to get a really charismatic competitor, 98 00:04:00,109 --> 00:04:02,942 I think, to like really be threatened and Monog you know, 99 00:04:02,942 --> 00:04:04,934 it's not he's not nothing. He's nothing. 100 00:04:04,648 --> 00:04:05,648 So I 101 00:04:05,189 --> 00:04:09,590 I've heard a theory about what you're these ads that you're talking about. 102 00:04:09,330 --> 00:04:11,291 Well, can I show you? I have one of the 103 00:04:09,590 --> 00:04:11,174 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 104 00:04:11,291 --> 00:04:15,284 mailers. So this is the mailer I got. 105 00:04:15,284 --> 00:04:19,026 And what it says, there's a there's a timeline here. 106 00:04:19,026 --> 00:04:22,548 And it says when it comes to Massachusetts politicians, 107 00:04:22,548 --> 00:04:25,150 nobody is further left than Andrea James. 108 00:04:25,150 --> 00:04:29,772 And then there's a timeline and it shows ~ Michelle Wu, 109 00:04:29,772 --> 00:04:31,623 the mayor of Boston in the middle, 110 00:04:31,623 --> 00:04:34,995 progressive Democrat, which I'd say not really. 111 00:04:35,145 --> 00:04:38,107 Then we have Mara Healy, says Beacon Hill Democrat, 112 00:04:38,107 --> 00:04:39,649 which I didn't even know was a term, 113 00:04:39,649 --> 00:04:43,341 but interesting. And then it says it shows Andrea James and 114 00:04:43,341 --> 00:04:47,804 it says radical socialist. And then in the a box over to the left in the blue, 115 00:04:47,804 --> 00:04:51,037 it says Andrea James radical agenda. 116 00:04:51,037 --> 00:04:54,170 It says, loves taxes, hates ice, 117 00:04:54,170 --> 00:04:57,252 mandate electric, 118 00:04:57,252 --> 00:04:59,864 ban gas, support felons. 119 00:05:00,014 --> 00:05:04,075 Attack Israel, freeze rent, burn corporations. 120 00:05:04,075 --> 00:05:08,536 Not as not that doesn't go as hard as I think they thought it would when 121 00:05:08,159 --> 00:05:09,159 No. 122 00:05:08,536 --> 00:05:10,777 they wrote that. But here's what's really funny, 123 00:05:10,777 --> 00:05:13,198 and I can't show it because it has my address. 124 00:05:13,198 --> 00:05:17,599 But it says Andrea James loves socialist socialism so much she's known 125 00:05:17,599 --> 00:05:19,570 as the Massachusetts mom Donnie. 126 00:05:19,570 --> 00:05:24,482 And it's a picture of her and Zoran with a bunch of love candies on it. 127 00:05:23,976 --> 00:05:24,976 Ha ha ha. 128 00:05:24,763 --> 00:05:25,843 So yeah, so anyways 129 00:05:26,013 --> 00:05:27,544 Before we get into the theories, 130 00:05:27,544 --> 00:05:32,819 this is paid for by Massachusetts First Independent Expenditure Political Action 131 00:05:32,819 --> 00:05:35,401 Committee. So Mass In First Independent PAC. 132 00:05:35,401 --> 00:05:39,214 It's interesting on the ad it says the top five donors of the PAC on it, 133 00:05:39,214 --> 00:05:40,655 which I like that little feature. 134 00:05:40,655 --> 00:05:43,267 We have Robert Nooner, David Weber, 135 00:05:43,267 --> 00:05:45,429 Arthur DeMoules. And that 136 00:05:44,991 --> 00:05:45,991 Wow. 137 00:05:45,489 --> 00:05:49,042 that name might ring a bell to our Massachusetts listeners, 138 00:05:49,042 --> 00:05:50,073 but for those who don't know, 139 00:05:50,223 --> 00:05:52,326 Demoulas and the Demoulas brothers. 140 00:05:52,326 --> 00:05:55,338 Those are the former at least owners of Market Basket, 141 00:05:55,338 --> 00:05:58,892 a a local grocery chain. ~ so anyways, 142 00:05:58,892 --> 00:06:02,376 yeah, so to your point, I was wondering why I was getting these ads. 143 00:06:02,376 --> 00:06:06,271 So I was goo I went down the rabbit hole of all the conspiracy theories of this. 144 00:06:06,271 --> 00:06:07,533 But yeah, why don't you talk? Yeah, 145 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:08,644 tell us tell us about it. 146 00:06:08,794 --> 00:06:15,098 So I I would have to look up the political affiliation of that pack 147 00:06:14,957 --> 00:06:16,835 Republican. Yeah. 148 00:06:15,098 --> 00:06:16,889 and those donors. But yeah, the 149 00:06:16,929 --> 00:06:21,921 the theory has been that people that want Mike Minogue, 150 00:06:21,921 --> 00:06:28,005 the Republican, to win, are putting out these ads that are made to seem like they're 151 00:06:28,005 --> 00:06:31,227 attacking James. That's her name, 152 00:06:31,227 --> 00:06:33,108 right? ~ 153 00:06:31,531 --> 00:06:32,531 Yeah, Andrea Jams, yeah. 154 00:06:33,468 --> 00:06:34,909 but they're actually 155 00:06:35,059 --> 00:06:40,625 Trying to convince left wing people to vote for her over the Democrat Healy. 156 00:06:40,625 --> 00:06:45,771 To siphon votes off of Healy. So Republicans are paying for these ads that 157 00:06:45,771 --> 00:06:51,616 are kind of attacky but also kind of positive about the socialist in order 158 00:06:51,616 --> 00:06:53,118 to wean votes off Healy. 159 00:06:53,268 --> 00:06:56,831 Exactly, which I think

is this box's point of view. 160 00:06:56,831 --> 00:06:58,532 I think that's exactly what's happening. 161 00:06:58,532 --> 00:07:01,654 Loves taxes, hate ice, supports Velen, 162 00:07:01,654 --> 00:07:04,686 attack Israel. Like those aren't like one to one. 163 00:07:04,686 --> 00:07:06,578 Yeah. Like 164 00:07:05,766 --> 00:07:06,766 Yeah, and I I 165 00:07:06,868 --> 00:07:11,094 I've s I've heard of another one that was even slightly more positive where it's 166 00:07:11,094 --> 00:07:14,088 like I agreed with almost every bullet point on it. 167 00:07:14,088 --> 00:07:15,088 Like it was like 168 00:07:14,346 --> 00:07:15,346 Yeah. 169 00:07:14,929 --> 00:07:18,985 Medicare for all mentioned and stuff like that. 170 00:07:19,135 --> 00:07:21,309 Totally. And I mean 171 00:07:20,809 --> 00:07:22,050 And Healy Healy 172 00:07:22,050 --> 00:07:24,811 is not seen as a left wing Democrat, 173 00:07:24,811 --> 00:07:26,754 by the way. ~ she's seen 174 00:07:25,952 --> 00:07:26,952 No, and 175 00:07:26,754 --> 00:07:31,017 as kind of a moderate. So it that's w kind of explains the strategy. 176 00:07:31,167 --> 00:07:35,361 Without a doubt, and that's what this little timeline spectrum thing shows of, 177 00:07:35,361 --> 00:07:39,074 you know, her on the right and James on the left. 178 00:07:39,074 --> 00:07:42,958 It's it's it's something else, 179 00:07:42,958 --> 00:07:44,760 man. It's a it's a funny move. 180 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,321 It's an interesting play. It won't work. 181 00:07:47,321 --> 00:07:51,556 I d but it would maybe work more if it was 182 00:07:51,706 --> 00:07:53,947 Close. Like it was like 30, 30, 183 00:07:53,947 --> 00:07:55,238 32 or something. You what I mean? 184 00:07:55,238 --> 00:07:56,598 Like there were it was like very, 185 00:07:56,598 --> 00:08:02,641 very tight. But you gotta have the person pull a little higher than Andrea James is, 186 00:08:02,641 --> 00:08:06,403 I think, for this to matter. The other and the gap between Healy and Minogue 187 00:08:06,403 --> 00:08:10,765 to be smaller. A little disrespectful to our man Joe Tashey or Tashe 188 00:08:10,915 --> 00:08:15,237 not getting any of these attack ads because he's also a socialist running 189 00:08:15,237 --> 00:08:18,329 for senator. They're not even trying that. 190 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:17,159 Yeah. 191 00:08:18,643 --> 00:08:21,731 The dude, the guy running against Marky's not even trying. 192 00:08:21,731 --> 00:08:25,671 That's a sad campaign. Not even making an effort. 193 00:08:25,821 --> 00:08:29,163 Yeah, this this mailer stuff, it's an interesting tactic too, 194 00:08:29,163 --> 00:08:32,124 'cause we'll talk about the Alaska drama, 195 00:08:32,124 --> 00:08:34,265 ~ that we touched on last week, 196 00:08:34,212 --> 00:08:35,212 Yes. 197 00:08:34,265 --> 00:08:35,265 but there was 198 00:08:34,765 --> 00:08:36,806 a there was a big update in the story. 199 00:08:36,806 --> 00:08:43,630 And this is a similar type of thing of real sleazy tactics 200 00:08:43,630 --> 00:08:47,972 that may be legal or maybe illegal, 201 00:08:47,972 --> 00:08:50,027 depending on exactly what happened. 202 00:08:50,177 --> 00:08:55,799 Exactly. And what's so weird about it is Andrea James I don't know anything about 203 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:59,301 her. I've never heard a peep about her outside of these attack ads. 204 00:08:59,301 --> 00:09:02,403 And it's like is she AI generated? 205 00:09:02,403 --> 00:09:08,056 Like is she real? No, but it's just it's also funny that Zoran, 206 00:09:08,056 --> 00:09:11,328 you know, he his face is on this ad, 207 00:09:11,328 --> 00:09:13,119 which just shows you how much, 208 00:09:13,119 --> 00:09:15,260 you know, recognition he has now. 209 00:09:15,476 --> 00:09:17,098 just in general as a politician. 210 00:09:17,098 --> 00:09:20,642 He's gotta be now one of the most famous politicians in the world now that they 211 00:09:20,642 --> 00:09:25,645 can slap his face on things and they expect the average person to know who that is. 212 00:09:25,795 --> 00:09:30,282 And I think that's one of the bigger points that makes it obvious about what's going 213 00:09:30,282 --> 00:09:32,275 on is like he's so popular 214 00:09:32,539 --> 00:09:33,539 Yeah. 215 00:09:33,157 --> 00:09:36,501 among anybody to the left. So like 216 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:37,070 Totally. 217 00:09:37,283 --> 00:09:41,359 obviously James would love to be associated with him. 218 00:09:41,509 --> 00:09:44,001 She would love the nickname Massachusetts Mom Donnie. 219 00:09:44,001 --> 00:09:46,063 That's a that's a that's a huge compliment. 220 00:09:44,058 --> 00:09:46,508 Right. Yeah. 221 00:09:47,204 --> 00:09:50,066 but yeah. Anyways, I just thought that was interesting 'cause we don't 222 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:53,019 get so much drama in the Massachusetts political scene. 223 00:09:53,019 --> 00:09:56,382 You know, things are usually pretty I don't know. 224 00:09:56,382 --> 00:10:00,005 It it it it requires some big event to make it really popular. 225 00:10:00,155 --> 00:10:04,268 Say this midterm, the more drama is about the questions. 226 00:10:04,268 --> 00:10:05,909 There's nine ballot questions, 227 00:10:05,909 --> 00:10:08,171 which is a ton for Massachusetts. 228 00:10:08,171 --> 00:10:11,433 ~ only time I've had a two page ballot, 229 00:10:11,433 --> 00:10:14,375 like I filled out my absentee ballot and it was two pages. 230 00:10:14,684 --> 00:10:15,684 Interesting, yeah. 231 00:10:16,577 --> 00:10:20,809 because the Senate and governor elections are gonna be such landslides that 232 00:10:20,809 --> 00:10:24,432 I feel like a lot of at least I've been getting all these spam texts about 233 00:10:24,432 --> 00:10:27,164 the questions. ~ so what 234 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:27,113 Totally. That has been the most. 235 00:10:27,314 --> 00:10:30,256 We'll touch on some of those next week after the election. 236 00:10:30,406 --> 00:10:32,347 Definitely. Yeah, last thing on

this. 237 00:10:32,347 --> 00:10:36,778 I was walking around with Hannah yesterday and she got one of those texts 238 00:10:36,928 --> 00:10:39,219 and it was like, Happy Halloween. 239 00:10:39,219 --> 00:10:43,411 You know what's really scary? Seven out of ten Massachusetts politicians 240 00:10:43,411 --> 00:10:46,932 are running unopposed. Like like make sure you vote. 241 00:10:46,162 --> 00:10:48,849 I got that I got that one. Yeah, 242 00:10:46,932 --> 00:10:50,033 You got that one? You got the you know what's really scary? 243 00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:50,674 yeah, yeah. Yeah. 244 00:10:50,834 --> 00:10:53,535 I was cracking up at that. You know what's really spooky? 245 00:10:53,535 --> 00:10:56,456 Hey, you know what? It is a little spooky. 246 00:10:56,456 --> 00:10:58,547 Fair enough. It that is a ridiculous 247 00:10:58,255 --> 00:10:59,255 Yeah. 248 00:10:58,547 --> 00:10:59,547 stat. 249 00:10:58,977 --> 00:11:01,508 But yeah, this is it, guys. Vote, 250 00:11:01,508 --> 00:11:07,460 vote, vote, vote. This is the most important midterms of our lives. 251 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:12,151 Likely to be the most important midterm for the near future. 252 00:11:12,151 --> 00:11:16,833 I mean for a very long time. If there's ever been a moment to go vote, 253 00:11:16,833 --> 00:11:20,463 it is now. I don't care if you are grumpy, 254 00:11:20,463 --> 00:11:23,204 go vote. This is 255 00:11:23,354 --> 00:11:25,677 Please, God. Just just go please vote. 256 00:11:25,677 --> 00:11:30,253 That's all I can ask. this is not the one to be making a stand and not voting. 257 00:11:30,253 --> 00:11:32,156 Please, God, go vote. Don't write Mickey 258 00:11:31,697 --> 00:11:32,697 Yeah. 259 00:11:32,156 --> 00:11:34,228 Mouse in. Don't write, you know, 260 00:11:34,228 --> 00:11:37,983 whatever. Tony Hawk is pres. Just go in there and vote. 261 00:11:37,983 --> 00:11:38,983 Please, God. 262 00:11:39,083 --> 00:11:44,897 Yeah, get out there and don't trust if you're liberal or anti Trump, 263 00:11:44,897 --> 00:11:49,080 don't trust the polls that Democrats are gonna win a bunch of these races 264 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,235 by plus two, 'cause we've seen that be completely wrong every time Trump 265 00:11:54,235 --> 00:11:59,530 is involved in an election. And obviously this election's almost entirely about 266 00:11:59,530 --> 00:12:02,262 Trump, even though he's not technically running. 267 00:12:02,412 --> 00:12:04,633 Exactly. In all walks of life. 268 00:12:04,633 --> 00:12:06,693 I mean, if you're Republican listening, 269 00:12:06,693 --> 00:12:08,755 if you're independent, if you're Democrat, 270 00:12:08,755 --> 00:12:14,728 just vote. My God, vote. Because if you think this is a good way to run a country, 271 00:12:14,728 --> 00:12:17,811 regardless of party, then I guess you're good. 272 00:12:17,811 --> 00:12:19,432 Stay at home. But if you're not, 273 00:12:19,432 --> 00:12:23,174 please, Lord, vote for any amount of change. 274 00:12:23,174 --> 00:12:26,216 I'd say two things about this midterms before I go. 275 00:12:26,366 --> 00:12:30,757 This is not only the most important in terms of just the day-to-day lives 276 00:12:30,837 --> 00:12:33,418 of the average American, which is obviously priority one, 277 00:12:33,418 --> 00:12:39,040 it's also the most important in terms of indicting the American political system 278 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,160 in a lot of ways. I think, you know, 279 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,071 we're gonna talk about the Israel prime minister election that happened this week. 280 00:12:45,071 --> 00:12:50,182 Th if we continue along this path and we vote to continue along this path, 281 00:12:50,182 --> 00:12:51,432 it is hard to 282 00:12:51,582 --> 00:12:55,270 you know, have much sympathy for this country in a lot of ways. 283 00:12:55,270 --> 00:12:59,771 And I just feel like that's a major undertone of this entire election. 284 00:12:59,921 --> 00:13:05,217 Yeah, definitely. This is the last chance to show that Trump 285 00:13:05,217 --> 00:13:08,120 is not totally representative of the United States. 286 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,013 Yeah. 287 00:13:08,868 --> 00:13:10,259 And that matters a lot. 288 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:13,890 Yeah. So one thing that I've already seen, 289 00:13:13,890 --> 00:13:16,831 so early voting has been casted, 290 00:13:16,831 --> 00:13:18,632 like you said, absentee ballots, 291 00:13:18,632 --> 00:13:24,285 early voting. So around forty five million have already been casted. 292 00:13:24,285 --> 00:13:27,685 ~ so people are saying they're enthusiastic. 293 00:13:27,685 --> 00:13:32,698 Gallup polls are saying more peop people are feeling the urge to vote than normal. 294 00:13:32,698 --> 00:13:33,698 That's good. 295 00:13:33,568 --> 00:13:36,829 And so it's basically half and half, 296 00:13:36,829 --> 00:13:40,090 half male and half in person early voting so far. 297 00:13:40,090 --> 00:13:43,401 All the polls are showing Democrats doing well. 298 00:13:43,401 --> 00:13:48,112 Kalshi, who, by the way, recently hired a former Obama executive, 299 00:13:48,112 --> 00:13:50,683 so they're they're certainly thinking the Democrats will win. 300 00:13:50,683 --> 00:13:53,223 Gross, by the way, just gross that that's a thing. 301 00:13:53,223 --> 00:13:57,114 Give the Democrats a ninety one percent chance of winning the House and 302 00:13:57,114 --> 00:13:59,245 a sixty five percent chance of winning the Senate. 303 00:13:59,395 --> 00:14:03,698 ~ I will say this, and this is one of the things that I'm sure a 304 00:14:03,698 --> 00:14:05,059 lot of our listeners feel like. 305 00:14:05,059 --> 00:14:07,200 So now that I we have our X account, 306 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,542 which by the way has like no followers, 307 00:14:08,542 --> 00:14:10,093 please go follow it if you're listening. 308 00:14:10,093 --> 00:14:13,747 The I'm on X now more Twitter, 309 00:14:13,747 --> 00:14:17,160 right? And what a

hellscape that place is. 310 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,514 What an absolute mine of Russian bots and trolls and 311 00:14:21,664 --> 00:14:24,845 Just one of the worst places in the world is on a Twitter feed 312 00:14:24,186 --> 00:14:25,186 Yeah. 313 00:14:24,845 --> 00:14:26,566 currently, and of course I'm on it. 314 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:31,317 And so I'm seeing a lot of people reporting about the demographics 315 00:14:31,577 --> 00:14:35,799 of early voters saying, look at how many Latino voters are voting, 316 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:38,420 and you know, they didn't vote in the 2024 election, 317 00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:40,441 and now all of a sudden there's these people voting. 318 00:14:40,441 --> 00:14:43,332 And so this is the narrative that I guarantee you. 319 00:14:43,332 --> 00:14:47,794 Hey, how come in this district that voted Republican in 24 now all of 320 00:14:47,794 --> 00:14:50,165 a sudden is overwhelmingly blue? 321 00:14:50,315 --> 00:14:53,807 Something must be up. That's gonna be the narrative that the Republicans 322 00:14:53,807 --> 00:14:55,808 are gonna use. And I just wanna say, 323 00:14:55,808 --> 00:14:58,459 if you're a Republican and you're listening to that, 324 00:14:58,459 --> 00:15:02,231 please realize how dumb they think you are to believe something like that. 325 00:15:02,231 --> 00:15:04,543 That means that people are saying, 326 00:15:04,543 --> 00:15:06,894 A, they're not willing to change their mind, 327 00:15:06,894 --> 00:15:11,047 because obviously we have two years of feedback to change the opinion of something. 328 00:15:11,047 --> 00:15:13,968 But two, and this is the one Rick I wanted to talk about. 329 00:15:14,118 --> 00:15:17,421 Is that there's this implication that it's illegal immigrants that 330 00:15:17,421 --> 00:15:20,123 are changing the vote. Like that's what they're trying to imply. 331 00:15:20,123 --> 00:15:22,583 Which is so funny because basically, 332 00:15:22,583 --> 00:15:24,875 if you talk to any Republican whatsoever, 333 00:15:24,875 --> 00:15:28,448 the only positive thing that they will say that Trump has done 334 00:15:28,488 --> 00:15:31,320 is secure the southern border and they've stopped immigration 335 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,062 and the immigrant stuff because they're so into ice and they're so into 336 00:15:35,143 --> 00:15:37,094 the border and illegal immigrants and blah, 337 00:15:37,094 --> 00:15:40,136 blah, blah. But apparently they did such a good job stopping it, 338 00:15:40,136 --> 00:15:41,237 but not good enough. 339 00:15:41,387 --> 00:15:45,052 that it's having this major impact on votes? 340 00:15:45,052 --> 00:15:46,975 Like it's total bullshit. Like 341 00:15:46,654 --> 00:15:47,654 Right. 342 00:15:47,135 --> 00:15:50,680 like use your brain, folks. It's obviously lies. 343 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,866 One week you say none he got rid of all of them and now they're all voting? 344 00:15:54,866 --> 00:15:56,899 Like it's ridiculous. But 345 00:15:55,212 --> 00:15:56,212 Yeah. 346 00:15:56,899 --> 00:15:58,121 anyways, what do you think about all this? 347 00:15:58,271 --> 00:16:01,083 Yeah, it's it it is absolutely ridiculous. 348 00:16:01,083 --> 00:16:04,505 It's just like those border patrol ads we talked about last week where it's like 349 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:06,216 Donald Trump secured the border, 350 00:16:06,216 --> 00:16:08,127 but there's more work we could do. 351 00:16:08,127 --> 00:16:09,127 Donate 352 00:16:08,305 --> 00:16:09,305 Yeah. 353 00:16:09,067 --> 00:16:11,018 to secure the border back. It's like, 354 00:16:11,018 --> 00:16:12,409 what? He's had six years. 355 00:16:12,945 --> 00:16:14,039 Yeah. ~ 356 00:16:14,991 --> 00:16:20,674 yeah, it's it's so annoying and I've been thinking about this there 357 00:16:20,674 --> 00:16:25,537 was recently these polls done on they asked people 358 00:16:25,687 --> 00:16:31,639 what percentage of high school athletes are trans and they found I forget 359 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:34,579 if it was like registered Republicans or like people that watch 360 00:16:34,579 --> 00:16:39,471 Fox News or something said five percent on average. 361 00:16:38,433 --> 00:16:40,351 Yep. It's unbelievable. 362 00:16:39,471 --> 00:16:40,631 One out of twenty, 363 00:16:40,871 --> 00:16:44,752 which obviously it's like there's like ten in the whole country. 364 00:16:44,747 --> 00:16:45,747 In the whole nation. 365 00:16:44,752 --> 00:16:46,253 It's like point ~ 366 00:16:46,253 --> 00:16:48,333 one or whatever. but that's similar. 367 00:16:48,333 --> 00:16:52,594 Like I bet, you know, if you poll people what percentage of votes 368 00:16:52,744 --> 00:16:55,055 were cast by undocumented immigrants, 369 00:16:55,055 --> 00:16:58,466 some people would be like, I don't know, 370 00:16:58,466 --> 00:17:02,768 five percent, three percent, which would mean millions and millions of people, 371 00:17:02,768 --> 00:17:09,402 obviously. but it's just it's like even when these right wing media networks 372 00:17:09,642 --> 00:17:13,464 aren't expressly lying and saying that, 373 00:17:13,464 --> 00:17:18,406 all they're doing is covering all day this as a major issue. 374 00:17:18,556 --> 00:17:21,329 So that's gonna make when people are asked to give a number, 375 00:17:21,329 --> 00:17:23,383 them give a number like five percent. 376 00:17:23,532 --> 00:17:27,535 Totally. And partly it's because people just don't understand s what that even means 377 00:17:27,535 --> 00:17:29,727 when they say I mean, very famously, 378 00:17:29,727 --> 00:17:33,238 I don't know if you saw this clip this week where Dan Oravoski, 379 00:17:33,238 --> 00:17:36,841 the ~ a c ~ ESPN commentator for football, 380 00:17:36,841 --> 00:17:39,383 like NFL football, went on the Pat McAfee thing. 381 00:17:39,383 --> 00:17:41,995 And I don't watch that show, but I saw the clip going around social media 382 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:45,207 of him going, Do you guys know what

a percent is? 383 00:17:45,207 --> 00:17:48,219 I just found that out today. It means one out of a hundred. 384 00:17:48,219 --> 00:17:50,010 That's what per s percent. 385 00:17:48,650 --> 00:17:49,650 No way. 386 00:17:50,998 --> 00:17:53,740 And and he's like, they're even Ma Hecafee's like, 387 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:58,283 yeah, dude. And they talk about it like for like five minutes. 388 00:17:58,283 --> 00:18:01,594 Like what a percent means. And so remember that, 389 00:18:01,594 --> 00:18:03,806 folks. This isn't the brightest. 390 00:18:03,806 --> 00:18:08,078 No, but you're right. I think even people who know it's not 391 00:18:08,078 --> 00:18:12,892 an issue would overestimate the counts just because of exactly what you described. 392 00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:16,804 Like, we did a the an episode on this. 393 00:18:16,954 --> 00:18:21,695 last year about what is the percentage of non immigrant non US citizens 394 00:18:21,695 --> 00:18:23,276 who have voted in an election. 395 00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:25,447 And since nineteen eighty two, 396 00:18:25,447 --> 00:18:31,518 there's the percentage of people who are non US citizens who have actually casted 397 00:18:31,518 --> 00:18:37,889 a vote. It's point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero five percent of votes. 398 00:18:37,889 --> 00:18:42,671 Only ninety nine cases in the last fifty years, 399 00:18:42,671 --> 00:18:43,671 basically. 400 00:18:43,653 --> 00:18:47,786 Or 45 years have said, have voted. 401 00:18:47,786 --> 00:18:50,919 So only 99 people ever. I think people think it's like, 402 00:18:50,919 --> 00:18:53,331 yeah, tens of thousands every cycle, 403 00:18:53,331 --> 00:18:56,774 not 99 in the last 40 plus years. 404 00:18:56,774 --> 00:19:02,718 It's so not a real issue. It's so much more likely that 405 00:19:03,018 --> 00:19:04,829 a Siamese twin. 406 00:19:04,979 --> 00:19:07,601 commits a homicide. You know what I mean? 407 00:19:07,601 --> 00:19:08,601 Like like like 408 00:19:07,956 --> 00:19:08,956 Yeah. 409 00:19:08,551 --> 00:19:12,314 like some ridiculous thing. Like it's it's lightning strikes, 410 00:19:12,314 --> 00:19:18,488 shark attacks. Like these are so significantly more common than voter fraud from 411 00:19:18,628 --> 00:19:24,642 non-citizens. Like this is so not an issue whatsoever in any circumstance. 412 00:19:24,642 --> 00:19:28,824 And it's true though. So here's the thing I wanted to ask you before 413 00:19:28,824 --> 00:19:30,135 we get more into the news. 414 00:19:30,285 --> 00:19:33,065 So obviously Tuesday is the election night. 415 00:19:33,065 --> 00:19:36,340 We are going to be live streaming at least for an hour. 416 00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:39,783 Eight PM Eastern time. Rick and I are hitting live. 417 00:19:39,783 --> 00:19:41,975 Where can you view us? YouTube, 418 00:19:41,975 --> 00:19:43,426 Instagram live. 419 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:45,540 E Ever heard of him? 420 00:19:45,888 --> 00:19:50,412 Yeah. Maybe the biggest platforms in the world where none of you actually listen 421 00:19:50,412 --> 00:19:52,113 to the show. and maybe Twitch too. 422 00:19:52,263 --> 00:19:54,163 Check out Twitch. We don't even have a Twitch account. 423 00:19:54,163 --> 00:19:56,155 We're gonna have to make one. But definitely YouTube, 424 00:19:56,155 --> 00:19:57,837 definitely Instagram, live, maybe X, 425 00:19:57,837 --> 00:20:01,339 Twitter. but yeah, so please tune in so we don't feel depressed. 426 00:20:01,339 --> 00:20:04,371 8 p.m. Eastern. I will send out notes about that. 427 00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:06,172 But yeah, eight PM Eastern, live stream, 428 00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:08,122 election night. Be there or be square. 429 00:20:08,122 --> 00:20:13,966 But no. What I was gonna ask is obviously they're gonna start. 430 00:20:14,116 --> 00:20:16,338 Saying shenanigans. No matter what happens, 431 00:20:16,338 --> 00:20:18,139 this is gonna be conspiracy one-on-one. 432 00:20:18,139 --> 00:20:20,101 If Democrats do well, if Republicans do well, 433 00:20:20,101 --> 00:20:23,284 basically I can see no outcome that doesn't cause drama. 434 00:20:23,284 --> 00:20:27,757 If Republicans do well, people are gonna say it's Elon Musk meddling with machines. 435 00:20:27,757 --> 00:20:30,889 This is the gerrymandering, there's gonna be a whole litany of things. 436 00:20:30,889 --> 00:20:32,710 And obviously, if Democrats do well, 437 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:34,922 Republicans are gonna say illegal immigrants and blah, 438 00:20:34,922 --> 00:20:36,023 blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. 439 00:20:36,023 --> 00:20:38,965 Their stuff. Both probably ridiculous. 440 00:20:39,115 --> 00:20:43,056 I mean, obviously I believe Elon and them more likely because they're 441 00:20:43,056 --> 00:20:47,657 are currently running the government and Elon is a psychotic person with technical 442 00:20:47,657 --> 00:20:51,967 chops. But even still I don't think that's honestly likely an outcome. 443 00:20:51,967 --> 00:20:56,737 So I guess my question is is is Trump's damage done here? 444 00:20:56,737 --> 00:21:00,499 Like is there a way for this midterm to go through that could make 445 00:21:00,499 --> 00:21:04,930 you breathe a sigh of relief? Or do you think no matter what happens, 446 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:06,190 this is gonna be crazy? 447 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:11,762 Yeah, no matter what happens. I I think I'll breathe a sigh of relief when they 448 00:21:12,183 --> 00:21:15,934 become senators and reps in January because 449 00:21:15,075 --> 00:21:16,075 Yeah. 450 00:21:15,934 --> 00:21:18,085 there's going to be a lot of lawsuits. 451 00:21:18,085 --> 00:21:23,667 especially in the states that Trump feels like he deserves to win, 452 00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:27,169 which it's a sliding scale. 453 00:21:27,169 --> 00:21:28,960 I mean he thinks he deserves to win everywhere, 454 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,451 but like Alaska, Iowa 455 00:21:31,601 --> 00:21:35,473 Michigan to a smaller extent.

Yeah. 456 00:21:33,756 --> 00:21:35,497 South Carolina, Texas 457 00:21:35,653 --> 00:21:37,114 South Carolina, of course. Yeah. 458 00:21:37,114 --> 00:21:39,435 all the states that Trump has won, 459 00:21:39,435 --> 00:21:42,396 especially the states he's won multiple times, 460 00:21:42,396 --> 00:21:46,959 sometimes three times. I just think he's going to do everything possible 461 00:21:46,959 --> 00:21:52,091 to not certify those votes. And I definitely think ~ yeah, 462 00:21:52,091 --> 00:21:57,724 Ohio, Texas, Alaska, South Carolina are the biggest ones where it looks like 463 00:21:57,724 --> 00:21:58,724 the Democrats 464 00:21:58,795 --> 00:22:03,019 have a chance. and Trump thinks of those as red states. 465 00:22:03,019 --> 00:22:04,580 So he's not going to be happy. 466 00:22:04,730 --> 00:22:09,784 And Mike Johnson will obviously speaker house Mike Johnson will corroborate anything 467 00:22:09,784 --> 00:22:14,486 Trump says. Which I saw some people send me stuff on Instagram about Mike Johnson 468 00:22:14,486 --> 00:22:17,439 being like, you know, I'm not worried at all. 469 00:22:17,439 --> 00:22:21,561 We're gonna beat the polls as kind of proof that they've got like rigging going on. 470 00:22:21,561 --> 00:22:23,072 And I I get where they're coming from, 471 00:22:23,072 --> 00:22:25,063 but no, I think Mike Johnson's just a kook. 472 00:22:25,063 --> 00:22:26,945 Like I don't think he's a normal man. 473 00:22:26,945 --> 00:22:29,497 He's a little he's a little little bizarre. 474 00:22:29,647 --> 00:22:33,258 I will say though that if Democrats do well in those states, 475 00:22:33,258 --> 00:22:38,600 they will say, How is it possible that a Democrat could do well in Georgia, 476 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,552 in Texas, in this? You're telling me for the first time ever they're gonna 477 00:22:42,552 --> 00:22:44,272 win you know what I mean, especially in Texas. 478 00:22:44,272 --> 00:22:47,323 And to that I say, yes, this is the worst the country's ever been. 479 00:22:47,323 --> 00:22:48,633 Like 480 00:22:48,347 --> 00:22:49,347 Right. 481 00:22:48,693 --> 00:22:54,176 like this is the worst. Every single promise you promised has not come true. 482 00:22:54,176 --> 00:22:55,176 Every single one. 483 00:22:55,384 --> 00:22:57,706 The only one you could say is ramping up ice, 484 00:22:57,706 --> 00:23:00,459 I guess. If you were like, I really wanted to see more ice, 485 00:23:00,459 --> 00:23:03,802 then yes. But everything else, 486 00:23:02,331 --> 00:23:03,331 Right. 487 00:23:03,802 --> 00:23:04,802 no. 488 00:23:04,293 --> 00:23:11,138 Yeah, he he's the most unpopular president in recent history, 489 00:23:11,138 --> 00:23:16,793 with the debatable exception of George Bush's W Bush's last few months when 490 00:23:16,793 --> 00:23:19,165 the economy was in a full blown recession. 491 00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:24,469 That's the only time. so it totally makes sense that Democrats would do well now. 492 00:23:24,469

--> 00:23:28,152 obviously the opposition party usually almost always does well 493 00:23:28,472 --> 00:23:29,723 in the midterms anyway. 494 00:23:29,873 --> 00:23:36,303 But you combine that with Trump just completely imploding and it makes total sense. 495 00:23:36,453 --> 00:23:41,056 Yeah, the war, the prices, those two alone I think will bury him. 496 00:23:41,056 --> 00:23:44,733 The tariffs, the lack of anything good. 497 00:23:44,733 --> 00:23:48,922 I think people caring about AI and data centers will get people to vote more, 498 00:23:48,922 --> 00:23:50,974 just people who are caring about that. 499 00:23:50,974 --> 00:23:53,826 Ice killing Americans, not great, 500 00:23:53,826 --> 00:23:56,058 Bob. I think these things are not good. 501 00:23:56,058 --> 00:23:58,240 But I I will say we talked about it last week. 502 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,922 It's the war and the price effects of the war. 503 00:24:01,128 --> 00:24:03,863 that will ultimately be the undoing of everyone. 504 00:24:04,013 --> 00:24:05,013 Definitely. 505 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:07,739 I saw a theory online that after the midterms, 506 00:24:07,739 --> 00:24:13,470 because of course they've paused bombing on Iran and so forth s until after 507 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,370 the midterms, which is ridiculous, 508 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:17,651 by the way. Just just absolutely ridiculous. 509 00:24:17,651 --> 00:24:22,983 And th I saw some reporting that they're gonna restart after the midterms 510 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:25,984 to try to blame the war on Democrats somehow. 511 00:24:25,984 --> 00:24:29,736 Like to like do that. Could you see that being kind of a thing? 512 00:24:29,736 --> 00:24:30,736 Or I mean 513 00:24:30,366 --> 00:24:32,792 The American people will buy a lot of nonsense, 514 00:24:32,792 --> 00:24:35,680 so I I I worry that they could pull that. 515 00:24:34,455 --> 00:24:37,206 They will, but I think that that might be a stretch. 516 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,965 You think so? 517 00:24:38,427 --> 00:24:43,628 That might be a stretch. I do think we're gonna see more and more fake leaks about 518 00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:46,840 JD Vance wanting to end the war and him 519 00:24:46,466 --> 00:24:47,466 Yes. 520 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,491 not being supportive of it in general to set up his presidential run. 521 00:24:51,491 --> 00:24:53,012 I think that's gonna become a lot more. 522 00:24:53,162 --> 00:24:59,749 I agree. ~ I do wanna say I wanna get your temperature on some some of these races. 523 00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:02,827 I wanna temperature check with Rick. 524 00:25:02,562 --> 00:25:03,562 Hot. 525 00:25:03,028 --> 00:25:08,311 Yeah. Do you think what do you think's more likely? 526 00:25:08,311 --> 00:25:13,244 Darlene Graham, obviously relative of the late Lindsay, 527 00:25:13,244 --> 00:25:18,238 who is now no longer with us, losing in South Carolina? 528 00:25:18,388 --> 00:25:21,676 Or James Tallerico winning in Texas. 529 00:25:21,676

--> 00:25:24,606 W if you were Vegas, what do you think would be more likely? 530 00:25:24,756 --> 00:25:27,257 Talarico winning, I think, is definitely more likely. 531 00:25:27,257 --> 00:25:28,257 I think 532 00:25:27,472 --> 00:25:28,472 Really? 533 00:25:28,238 --> 00:25:33,801 yeah, I think that's the general like a lot of polls have Talarico 534 00:25:33,801 --> 00:25:39,283 up by three percent. And there was one poll that had Graham tied that came 535 00:25:39,283 --> 00:25:41,203 out recently, which made all the news. 536 00:25:41,203 --> 00:25:47,076 But the polling averages still have Graham up by like one and a half to two percent. 537 00:25:46,393 --> 00:25:47,393 Yeah. 538 00:25:47,226 --> 00:25:50,881 It is funny though, because I do think those are the two worst Republican candidates 539 00:25:50,881 --> 00:25:54,225 on the national level. Darlene Graham is so bad, 540 00:25:54,225 --> 00:25:58,120 but Ken Paxson is unbelievably bad. 541 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,633 And Mike Rogers is pretty terrible in Michigan. 542 00:26:00,633 --> 00:26:02,456 Those are like the big three, I think. 543 00:26:01,870 --> 00:26:02,870 Yeah. 544 00:26:02,606 --> 00:26:08,261 Graham and Paxton seem both really corrupt and really dumb. 545 00:26:08,261 --> 00:26:11,844 Yeah, they have that that perfect 546 00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:09,725 Yeah, they have the unique 547 00:26:11,844 --> 00:26:17,689 combination of like like they should win these elections easily if they 548 00:26:17,689 --> 00:26:19,600 had like average intelligence, 549 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,443 but there's just clearly something missing there. 550 00:26:22,593 --> 00:26:26,464 And they're just they're just so bad at politics. 551 00:26:26,464 --> 00:26:29,505 they're they're horrible on in just in general. 552 00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:32,676 Yeah, I think that will also get overlooked. 553 00:26:32,676 --> 00:26:36,187 To some extent, I will be so I mean if either one of them go blue, 554 00:26:36,187 --> 00:26:38,858 I'll be so happy. Obviously it'd be a huge deal. 555 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:42,099 But I do think it it should remember in the calculus, 556 00:26:42,099 --> 00:26:43,909 both on the Republican and Democrat side, 557 00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:49,621 that this is against the absolute worst candidates you could possibly imagine. 558 00:26:49,771 --> 00:26:52,064 any degree of competent candidate, 559 00:26:52,064 --> 00:26:54,237 if it was Cornyn or Lindsay himself, 560 00:26:54,237 --> 00:26:55,669 this wouldn't even be a discussion. 561 00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:56,669 I don't know. 562 00:26:56,044 --> 00:26:59,482 Exactly. It's the combination of Trump's unpopularity, 563 00:26:59,482 --> 00:27:03,472 the Democrats picked pretty good candidates in these swing states, 564 00:27:03,472 --> 00:27:05,848 and the Republicans picked really bad candidates. 565 00:27:05,998 --> 00:27:08,919 Yeah, and actually Trump picked the really bad candidates. 566 00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:10,249 This is Trump's fault. I mean, 567 00:27:10,249 --> 00:27:15,781 Trump outed Cornyn in Texas and obviously appointed through McMaster or whatever, 568 00:27:15,781 --> 00:27:19,502 the Darling Graham without even a proper primary, 569 00:27:19,502 --> 00:27:23,512 effectively. So yeah, this is a disaster on his fault. 570 00:27:23,512 --> 00:27:26,242 if they lose these, it's completely Trump's fault, 571 00:27:26,242 --> 00:27:28,003 not just because of his unpopularity, 572 00:27:28,003 --> 00:27:30,333 because of his political meddling. 573 00:27:30,483 --> 00:27:36,595 Totally. And and what you've seen too is Republicans their ads 574 00:27:36,595 --> 00:27:40,076 in the past month don't mention Trump anymore. 575 00:27:40,076 --> 00:27:42,857 They've removed him from TV advertisements 576 00:27:42,970 --> 00:27:43,970 Yep. 577 00:27:43,857 --> 00:27:46,538 because they just don't want to be associated with him. 578 00:27:46,538 --> 00:27:50,970 And I really think for the first time since Trump entered politics, 579 00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:53,650 he is a clear net negative on 580 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,944 his appearances with these candidates, 581 00:27:55,944 --> 00:27:58,249 especially someone like Mike Rogers, 582 00:27:58,249 --> 00:28:00,533 who is trying to distance himself, 583 00:28:00,533 --> 00:28:03,539 but then the next day he's at a rally hugging him. 584 00:28:03,539 --> 00:28:04,539 Like it's 585 00:28:03,814 --> 00:28:04,814 Yep. 586 00:28:04,602 --> 00:28:05,602 it's not good for him. 587 00:28:05,531 --> 00:28:10,604 No, yeah, and it's funny because the tariffs too 588 00:28:10,604 --> 00:28:15,867 are really uniquely terrible for the Republicans because so many states 589 00:28:16,227 --> 00:28:22,620 in the north and the center of the country rely on Canadian and Mexican inputs 590 00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:24,571 and and obviously trade with China, 591 00:28:24,571 --> 00:28:25,932 even though they don't like to admit it, 592 00:28:25,932 --> 00:28:29,282 whether it's soybeans or car parts or whatever. 593 00:28:29,282 --> 00:28:30,282 So 594 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:36,053 They have just gotten so stomped by these trade wars and these tariffs that it's 595 00:28:36,053 --> 00:28:38,594 just uniquely hurt farmers. Like, 596 00:28:38,594 --> 00:28:43,137 you know, you know, it's pretty rare for repo because usually Republican policy just 597 00:28:43,137 --> 00:28:47,609 cuts taxes for rich people and then they get richer and the benefits don't 598 00:28:47,609 --> 00:28:49,650 get trickled down and the wealth gap grows. 599 00:28:49,650 --> 00:28:53,902 But like things aren't necessarily directly bad for Republicans, 600 00:28:53,902 --> 00:28:58,595 like in the moment. Whereas this is direct policy attacking 601 00:28:58,745 --> 00:29:02,617 conservatives or con tr traditionally conservative demographics in a 602 00:29:02,617 --> 00:29:04,478 way that is just not typically seen. 603 00:29:04,478 -->

00:29:08,520 You just don't typically see them closing rural hospitals and raising 604 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,023 the price of manure. Like in the same in the same breath. 605 00:29:12,023 --> 00:29:17,356 It's like a very bizarre policy that has like been really bad for their base. 606 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:19,647 Yeah. And it's interesting because, 607 00:29:19,647 --> 00:29:24,451 a big industry in Maine where there's a big election is lumber. 608 00:29:24,451 --> 00:29:30,119 And lumber's been so hurt because the Canadian tariffs, 609 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:36,744 but also because of how much oil prices factor into trucking when you're dealing 610 00:29:36,744 --> 00:29:40,457 with these massive amounts of lumber across country lines. 611 00:29:40,457 --> 00:29:41,618 And 612 00:29:41,768 --> 00:29:44,756 Troy Jackson is a lifelong lumber guy. 613 00:29:44,756 --> 00:29:45,756 That 614 00:29:44,836 --> 00:29:45,836 Yeah. 615 00:29:45,498 --> 00:29:46,498 was his career. 616 00:29:46,409 --> 00:29:47,409 He's a lumberjack. 617 00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:52,860 It's a it's a pretty crazy lumber lumber Cinderella lumber story. 618 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:56,704 The biggest news though of the week on the midterm and the ads has 619 00:29:56,704 --> 00:29:58,085 to be what's going on in Michigan, 620 00:29:58,085 --> 00:30:01,629 So I wanted to show the ad before we really got into it. 621 00:30:01,629 --> 00:30:04,311 have you seen the ad? Because I hadn't s I haven't seen the ad. 622 00:30:04,311 --> 00:30:06,236 The one that Stevens is mad about? 623 00:30:06,055 --> 00:30:07,055 Yes, yes. 624 00:30:06,236 --> 00:30:08,122 ~ 625 00:30:08,122 --> 00:30:10,157 I don't think I've seen it. I've read about 626 00:30:09,357 --> 00:30:10,357 Neither have I. 627 00:30:10,157 --> 00:30:11,157 it. 628 00:30:10,307 --> 00:30:13,388 I've read about it too. So for those who aren't in the know, 629 00:30:13,388 --> 00:30:18,149 so this week, Cenk how do you say his last name? 630 00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:19,879 Cenk. So 631 00:30:18,472 --> 00:30:20,137 I don't know. I'm going with Jack. 632 00:30:20,239 --> 00:30:25,701 Cenk Cenk, who is the founder of this political news site, 633 00:30:25,701 --> 00:30:29,802 I guess, The Young Turks. And for those who don't know who that is, 634 00:30:29,802 --> 00:30:34,854 you know, good for you. I would say he's been on the he's been on the internet 635 00:30:34,854 --> 00:30:36,474 for a very long time. So this dude 636 00:30:36,624 --> 00:30:40,349 He's been in the news doing this crap since we were in high school at least, 637 00:30:40,349 --> 00:30:42,071 but probably longer than that. 638 00:30:42,071 --> 00:30:43,071 Like 639 00:30:42,414 --> 00:30:46,200 He's like one of the OG political YouTubers and podcasters. 640 00:30:46,350 --> 00:30:49,631 Definitely. And the uncle of Hassan Piker, 641 00:30:49,631 --> 00:30:51,662 who of course has been in the news for a while, 642 00:30:51,662 --> 00:30:54,142 that that is a big reason why Hassan's even popular, 643 00:30:54,142 --> 00:30:59,483 his relationship to Cenk. So Cenk is an interesting guy 'cause 644 00:30:59,664 --> 00:31:04,815 he he's kind of what people caricaturize Hassan Piker as, 645 00:31:04,815 --> 00:31:08,346 where he really does only really talk about Israel stuff, 646 00:31:08,346 --> 00:31:10,727 like basically forever. And 647 00:31:10,877 --> 00:31:13,598 His whole thing has been around this for a while. 648 00:31:13,598 --> 00:31:18,000 Now, he's not so progressive, but he's is about Israel. 649 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,696 He's politically savvy, but not super savvy. 650 00:31:21,696 --> 00:31:25,620 I don't know. He had gone really out of favor up until recently. 651 00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:29,782 He's really made a comeback on the shoulders of Hassan. 652 00:31:29,782 --> 00:31:31,873 Would you agree with this kind of characterization? 653 00:31:32,023 --> 00:31:33,023 Yeah, for sure. 654 00:31:32,939 --> 00:31:37,141 he's I wouldn't call him a real factor until recently. 655 00:31:37,141 --> 00:31:38,501 He's kind of been on the side. 656 00:31:38,501 --> 00:31:42,982 If anything, I think he was really on the down like dropping up until very recently. 657 00:31:42,982 --> 00:31:45,213 So anyway, Cenk's back in the news, 658 00:31:45,213 --> 00:31:48,704 because he created an ad to support Abdul. 659 00:31:48,704 --> 00:31:53,272 And this is also a confusion that I think a lot of people have because someone like 660 00:31:53,272 --> 00:31:54,983 Abdul, someone like Troy Jackson, 661 00:31:54,983 --> 00:31:56,494 they'll say something like 662 00:31:56,644 --> 00:32:00,698 I don't pay for PACs, right? I don't accept donations from corporate PACs. 663 00:32:00,698 --> 00:32:05,361 But then people see ads that are run for them by PACs and they go, 664 00:32:05,361 --> 00:32:07,553 hey, wait a minute. I thought they said they don't take PAX. 665 00:32:07,553 --> 00:32:11,637 You can't control if another group pay runs an ad for you, 666 00:32:11,637 --> 00:32:15,611 you know? And that's different from accepting donations from them. 667 00:32:15,611 --> 00:32:17,453 It's a it's a different relationship. 668 00:32:17,453 --> 00:32:18,884 But I understand the confusion. 669 00:32:18,884 --> 00:32:21,626 So anyway, Cenk ran an ad for Abdul. 670 00:32:21,776 --> 00:32:26,860 And this ad caused major drama because it was very aggressive against Israel. 671 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:28,982 And a lot of the discourse online was: 672 00:32:28,982 --> 00:32:31,404 is it anti-Semitic? Is it not anti-Semitic? 673 00:32:31,404 --> 00:32:34,467 Abdul has distanced himself from the ad. 674 00:32:34,467 --> 00:32:39,130 These freaking young Turks and co have really caused a lot of drama for poor Abdul. 675 00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:42,142 Like over the last few years. They probably have helped them too, 676 00:32:42,142 --> 00:32:45,365 but really, really drama, especially around Israel. 677 00:32:45,365

--> 00:32:48,007 I'm wondering if deep down he's like. 678 00:32:48,157 --> 00:32:49,648 Can these guys please shut up? 679 00:32:49,648 --> 00:32:54,451 Because they've definitely kept Abdul in the the news in ways that 680 00:32:54,451 --> 00:32:57,444 I'm sure he doesn't love, but obviously they've helped too. 681 00:32:57,444 --> 00:32:59,666 So I wanted to go find the ad. 682 00:32:59,666 --> 00:33:02,667 Before I played it. I always look on YouTube to try to find it, 683 00:33:02,667 --> 00:33:04,618 because, you know, I want to find it. 684 00:33:04,618 --> 00:33:07,670 So I typed in on YouTube, 685 00:33:07,670 --> 00:33:11,083 Israel ad chink to see what what 686 00:33:11,233 --> 00:33:13,034 comes up. And I wanted to show this. 687 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:17,545 This was cracking me up, the YouTube search results before I play the ad. 688 00:33:17,545 --> 00:33:22,236 Is all young Turk comments where he goes, 689 00:33:22,236 --> 00:33:26,988 Israel first panics over genius ad from Cenk himself. 690 00:33:26,988 --> 00:33:30,740 Cenk triggers Israel first with genius ad. 691 00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:34,001 With voters. Cenk for America. 692 00:33:38,693 --> 00:33:43,608 Jank triggers people. Israel supporters panic. 693 00:33:43,608 --> 00:33:47,262 The amount of clickbait that he has posted 694 00:33:46,272 --> 00:33:47,272 Yeah. 695 00:33:47,262 --> 00:33:52,407 and the amount of times he's called himself a genius on his own ads 696 00:33:51,054 --> 00:33:52,079 Yeah, that's wild. 697 00:33:52,407 --> 00:33:55,149 is so arrogant. He's such a piece of crap for this. 698 00:33:55,149 --> 00:33:57,392 I and no matter what you think about the ad, 699 00:33:57,392 --> 00:34:02,587 this is just the f engagement farming that he's doing here is just ridiculous. 700 00:34:02,737 --> 00:34:05,932 That's the reason I've never been able to stand him is he is 701 00:34:05,932 --> 00:34:07,675 so cocky and condescending. 702 00:34:07,825 --> 00:34:12,678 It's so, so ridiculous. But the benefit of this is of course, 703 00:34:12,678 --> 00:34:15,550 we can find the ad because he's trying to blow it up. 704 00:34:15,550 --> 00:34:20,793 Cenk for America ad. He's also calling the ad the Cenk for America ad, 705 00:34:20,793 --> 00:34:24,795 which is is crazy. This isn't about Abdul. 706 00:34:24,795 --> 00:34:27,666 This is about Cenk's ego. I think that's fair to say. 707 00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:29,507 Whether you want to call it anti Semitic or not, 708 00:34:29,507 --> 00:34:32,753 this is I don't know about the intentions of this ad, 709 00:34:32,753 --> 00:34:33,764 based off of this 710 00:34:33,914 --> 00:34:36,155 So let's let's watch it. It's a minute long. 711 00:34:36,155 --> 00:34:39,957 ~ so yeah. We'll talk about the outcries of this, 712 00:34:39,957 --> 00:34:44,610 but the larger themes before we get into the details more is that people 713 00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:46,171 are saying this ad is anti Semitic. 714 00:34:46,171 --> 00:34:50,433

Now, as our resident resident Jewish person on the show, 715 00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:54,685 you'll be the judge of that. You'll speak for the the nation. 716 00:34:54,685 --> 00:34:57,867 No. But yeah, 717 00:34:57,867 --> 00:35:01,408 let's see, because I feel like we we we have a pretty good unbias. 718 00:35:01,408 --> 00:35:02,408 Like we're not 719 00:35:02,096 --> 00:35:04,408 trying to defend anything. We we we'll call it like we see it, 720 00:35:04,408 --> 00:35:08,081 right? Like, yeah. We call balls and strikes over here at 721 00:35:08,081 --> 00:35:09,743 the Lonely Liberal podcast. But yeah, 722 00:35:09,743 --> 00:35:10,743 let's play. 723 00:36:12,685 --> 00:36:14,192 Uger, I guess is how you say his last name. 724 00:36:14,192 --> 00:36:17,919 ~ 725 00:36:17,338 --> 00:36:18,338 Yeah, it 726 00:36:18,070 --> 00:36:23,100 is he running for president? I d I don't really why why why is 727 00:36:21,827 --> 00:36:22,827 No. 728 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,694 his name so prominent? 729 00:36:26,351 --> 00:36:30,475 Jank for America? That's his super pack. 730 00:36:30,475 --> 00:36:34,338 So Abdul has said he doesn't agree with the ad. 731 00:36:34,338 --> 00:36:38,902 The big reason that this is in the news is that rat Haley Stevens. 732 00:36:38,902 --> 00:36:43,896 No. Haley Stevens, you know, I thought of her pretty neutrally. 733 00:36:44,046 --> 00:36:45,857 even after the election. Like, 734 00:36:45,857 --> 00:36:47,718 you know, she seemed like a nice enough woman. 735 00:36:47,718 --> 00:36:50,518 I didn't like the way she took super PAC money. 736 00:36:50,518 --> 00:36:52,759 I didn't agree with her. Obviously we like Abdul. 737 00:36:52,759 --> 00:36:55,379 But what she's done this week is disgusting, 738 00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:58,891 I think. So she's brought in a ton of attention to this ad, 739 00:36:58,891 --> 00:37:04,302 specifically begging Abdul to condemn it and basically calling Abdul like 740 00:37:04,302 --> 00:37:06,322 not for Jewish people. ~ 741 00:37:06,472 --> 00:37:10,836 Haley Stevens' fiance has said he's voting for Mike Rogers because of this 742 00:37:10,876 --> 00:37:15,950 ad and Abdul's lack of condemning anti-Semitism and stuff like that. 743 00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:19,102 So I guess before that, I think that's awful. 744 00:37:19,102 --> 00:37:21,464 Doesn't she understand the stakes at hand? 745 00:37:21,464 --> 00:37:25,226 Mallory, the other candidate who dropped out of the race, 746 00:37:25,226 --> 00:37:28,819 said it great. I don't know what the hell Haley is doing right now. 747 00:37:28,819 --> 00:37:32,102 Three days out, doesn't she understand the stakes of this country? 748 00:37:32,252 --> 00:37:35,245 Agreed with Mallory there. I like Mallory a lot. 749 00:37:35,245 --> 00:37:36,846 She would be a very good candidate, 750 00:37:36,846 --> 00:37:38,408 basically, in every normal. Anyway, 751 00:37:38,408 --> 00:37:39,909 nevertheless. The question is: 752 00:37:39,909 --> 00:37:42,712

I want to ask you a very loaded question. 753 00:37:42,712 --> 00:37:45,775 One, is this ad anti-Semitic? And two, 754 00:37:45,775 --> 00:37:47,897 what the hell is Haley Stevens doing? 755 00:37:47,897 --> 00:37:50,019 Rick go. 756 00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:52,851 I would not say it's anti Semitic. 757 00:37:52,851 --> 00:37:58,103 It's v aggressive. It's very aggressively anti Israel, 758 00:37:58,103 --> 00:38:04,586 obviously, but I don't necessarily think it crosses a line. 759 00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:08,168 obviously 760 00:38:08,318 --> 00:38:13,350 The reason we don't have single payer healthcare in the US 761 00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:17,632 is not because of how much money we give to Israel, 762 00:38:17,632 --> 00:38:19,042 right? Like we give way 763 00:38:18,347 --> 00:38:19,347 Hundred percent. 764 00:38:19,042 --> 00:38:23,294 too much money to Israel. But you can't just say, 765 00:38:23,294 --> 00:38:25,895 if we just stopped giving that money, 766 00:38:25,895 --> 00:38:29,557 we'd have money to transform our you know what I mean? 767 00:38:29,557 --> 00:38:30,977 Like it's not it's not 768 00:38:29,867 --> 00:38:30,867 Hundred percent, yeah. 769 00:38:31,818 --> 00:38:33,638 the amounts aren't equal there. 770 00:38:33,638 --> 00:38:37,300 ~ but that's not really what the ad says, 771 00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:38,300 right? 772 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:40,001 Like the it kind of implies that, 773 00:38:37,985 --> 00:38:39,835 Kinda says that though. Yeah. 774 00:38:40,001 --> 00:38:41,001 yeah. 775 00:38:41,021 --> 00:38:45,622 Which I think was is how Stevens interpreted the ad. 776 00:38:45,622 --> 00:38:51,283 so I would not say it's necessarily anti Semitic. 777 00:38:51,283 --> 00:38:55,604 I don't think it would have been a good idea for Abdul himself to run this ad, 778 00:38:55,604 --> 00:38:58,764 which he did not. and he said he didn't agree with it. 779 00:38:58,764 --> 00:39:02,165 I think Stevens is trying to sabotage his campaign, 780 00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:04,666 but she's too much of a coward to say 781 00:39:04,816 --> 00:39:08,707 I'm voting for Mike Rogers, so instead she's saying my husband is voting 782 00:39:08,707 --> 00:39:13,168 for Rogers and by the way, Abdul should condemn all this anti Semitic stuff. 783 00:39:13,168 --> 00:39:18,190 which is Rogers' biggest attack line is that Abdul is a Muslim who hates Jews. 784 00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:24,790 So I think she's totally trying to sabotage the Abdul campaign and wants Mike Rogers 785 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:29,401 to win. But she doesn't want to torpedo her democratic political career 786 00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:30,591 by officially 787 00:39:30,741 --> 00:39:31,849 Endorsing Rogers. 788 00:39:31,999 --> 00:39:37,801 Exactly. And it just shows you that her alliance is not to any of the beliefs, 789 00:39:37,801 --> 00:39:41,492 I think, of the damages that Trump has done and like wanting to remove that. 790 00:39:41,492 --> 00:39:46,012 Because what Mike Rogers would mean isn't about Mike Rogers versus Abdul. 791 00:39:46,012 --> 00:39:50,282 It's about the agenda that the GOP has been pushing forward over and over 792 00:39:50,282 --> 00:39:54,012 and over again and the destruction that it has caused locally, 793 00:39:54,012 --> 00:39:56,203 nationally and globally, you know, 794 00:39:56,203 --> 00:39:57,843 in every capacity you can imagine. 795 00:39:57,993 --> 00:40:01,264 Yeah, she's a piece of work. I don't like this whatsoever. 796 00:40:01,264 --> 00:40:03,235 She's a snake for this big time. 797 00:40:03,235 --> 00:40:05,546 I totally agree with you. About the ad, 798 00:40:05,546 --> 00:40:07,587 yeah, I don't like this ad at all. 799 00:40:07,587 --> 00:40:09,588 not because I think it's anti Semitic, 800 00:40:09,588 --> 00:40:11,979 but because I think it's stupid. 801 00:40:11,979 --> 00:40:16,720 I I think it's dumb. it's the same logic that Republicans use about foreign 802 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:21,191 aid and how we shouldn't be giving foreign aid to people because it's could 803 00:40:21,191 --> 00:40:22,262 be used to helping 804 00:40:22,412 --> 00:40:24,683 American whatever, roads or whatever. 805 00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:29,177 Now, of course, it's way more morally sound to give aid than weapons, 806 00:40:29,177 --> 00:40:33,551 especially when the country you're giving weapons to is committing mass atrocities 807 00:40:33,551 --> 00:40:35,863 of murder and all the stuff that Israel is doing. 808 00:40:35,863 --> 00:40:37,784 So I'm not trying to say it's one-to-one, 809 00:40:37,784 --> 00:40:40,527 but the logic is similar and wrong, 810 00:40:40,527 --> 00:40:41,768 like you said. it's just wrong. 811 00:40:41,768 --> 00:40:43,620 It's just not how spending works. 812 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:45,512 It's also ridiculous to 813 00:40:45,662 --> 00:40:49,625 The reason why I think I can see the anti Semitic claim a little bit 814 00:40:49,775 --> 00:40:53,758 is that there is this implication that Americans are responsible 815 00:40:53,938 --> 00:40:58,721 for the genocide that's happened in Gaza in a way that isn't fair. 816 00:40:58,721 --> 00:41:01,953 You know, by buying a banana, you're not fucking, 817 00:41:01,953 --> 00:41:03,514 you know, helping a 818 00:41:03,193 --> 00:41:04,193 Right. 819 00:41:03,514 --> 00:41:06,526 genocide. And that's kind of what that ad implies. 820 00:41:06,526 --> 00:41:08,598 That by participating 821 00:41:08,748 --> 00:41:13,725 you are kind of a cog in the wheel and you should feel a little bad for doing that. 822 00:41:13,725 --> 00:41:15,989 And that's not true. 823 00:41:14,521 --> 00:41:16,294 And and also Israel 824 00:41:16,334 --> 00:41:19,099 isn't the reason eggs are expensive either. 825 00:41:19,249 --> 00:41:24,393 No, no. Like that's not the reason the appr the the weapon funding isn't going 826 00:41:24,393 --> 00:41:26,454 towards bananas or eggs. 827 00:41:26,004 --> 00:41:27,004 Frame. 828 00:41:26,454 --> 00:41:28,314

Like it's just it's really dumb. 829 00:41:28,314 --> 00:41:33,768 It's just a really dumb ad that you could make that case a lot stronger. 830 00:41:33,768 --> 00:41:35,909 Like the point that the ad was trying to say, 831 00:41:35,909 --> 00:41:39,961 which is we are spending way too much money on funding Israel, 832 00:41:39,961 --> 00:41:41,982 which is true and we totally agree with. 833 00:41:41,982 --> 00:41:45,004 And that Israel is doing bad things, 834 00:41:45,004 --> 00:41:46,535 which is true, you know. 835 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:53,562 genocide. It's not true to say the price of eggs are going up because of that. 836 00:41:53,562 --> 00:41:54,562 You know? 837 00:41:54,484 --> 00:41:55,484 Right. 838 00:41:54,928 --> 00:41:56,891 And I I do think that you would say, 839 00:41:56,891 --> 00:41:58,534 well, why would you say that? Right? 840 00:41:58,534 --> 00:41:59,534 Like if you weren't 841 00:41:59,516 --> 00:42:03,062 like hateful and I guess the argument because you're just dumb and Cenk 842 00:42:03,062 --> 00:42:05,415 is dumb and he's not good, you know? 843 00:42:05,415 --> 00:42:08,088 But it's a bad ad. He shouldn't have done this. 844 00:42:08,088 --> 00:42:11,012 If Abdul loses, I blame Cenk now. 845 00:42:11,012 --> 00:42:13,366 I don't know. What do you think? 846 00:42:11,832 --> 00:42:12,832 Yeah. 847 00:42:13,433 --> 00:42:18,278 It no, I totally agree. It's a dumb ad and it's just it's clickbaity. 848 00:42:18,278 --> 00:42:23,342 even the fact that the guy swears in it is clickbaity for a political ad, 849 00:42:23,342 --> 00:42:25,424 he knew it was gonna create controversy. 850 00:42:25,574 --> 00:42:27,776 Who do you think if Abdul loses, 851 00:42:27,776 --> 00:42:29,557 which would suck, we love Abdul, 852 00:42:29,557 --> 00:42:31,754 friend of the show, Abdul, I'll say it. 853 00:42:31,754 --> 00:42:34,766 He's my favorite candidate running right now in these midterms. 854 00:42:34,766 --> 00:42:35,766 I w 855 00:42:34,939 --> 00:42:35,939 Mm-hmm. 856 00:42:35,507 --> 00:42:38,358 I if I had to have any one of them become a senator, 857 00:42:38,358 --> 00:42:40,130 it would be him. He's my favorite one. 858 00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:42,752 I think he's the smartest. I think he's the best equipped for it. 859 00:42:42,752 --> 00:42:46,434 I think his he seems just like a great guy in every sense of it. 860 00:42:46,434 --> 00:42:48,864 I l I really enjoy him. If he loses, 861 00:42:48,864 --> 00:42:50,495 who would you blame more? 862 00:42:50,645 --> 00:42:52,777 Between Haley Stevens and Cenk. 863 00:42:52,777 --> 00:42:55,359 Like who has more blood on their hands in this case? 864 00:42:55,359 --> 00:42:59,012 Because on one hand you have Cenk running this ridiculous ad three, 865 00:42:59,012 --> 00:43:04,147 four, five days out, right? And like causing drama for no reason other than 866 00:43:04,147 --> 00:43:05,808 potentially to build his own brand. 867 00:43:05,808 --> 00:43:07,420 But then you have

Haley Stevens, 868 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:11,804 a sitting congresswoman actively sabotaging her own party. 869 00:43:11,804 --> 00:43:14,676 My gut is Haley, is the more at fault here. 870 00:43:14,676 --> 00:43:18,269 But I do think Cenk has more reach than Haley in a w in a lot of ways. 871 00:43:18,419 --> 00:43:19,419 But I don't know. What do you think? 872 00:43:19,492 --> 00:43:25,636 Cenk has more reach, but Haley gives Rogers such a good attack line 873 00:43:25,636 --> 00:43:31,601 in the last week, which is his former primary opponent that he barely beat 874 00:43:31,681 --> 00:43:38,157 is coming out against him in the last moments because Abdul 875 00:43:38,157 --> 00:43:43,712 is anti Semitic when it's just this is Rogers has been arguing that the whole time. 876 00:43:43,712 --> 00:43:46,434 And the timing of it is 877 00:43:46,584 --> 00:43:49,416 also unbelievable because the primary happened months 878 00:43:49,416 --> 00:43:54,619 ago and this Stevens thing 879 00:43:54,619 --> 00:44:01,094 the the stuff about her husband supporting Rogers was its own news story that came 880 00:44:01,094 --> 00:44:06,217 out like three days before Stevens then came out and said 881 00:44:06,584 --> 00:44:11,060 I still support Abdul but he has to condemn these ads and all this stuff. 882 00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:14,863 Stevens just sucks. 883 00:44:15,013 --> 00:44:16,013 She sucks. 884 00:44:15,034 --> 00:44:16,065 She absolutely 885 00:44:16,065 --> 00:44:22,142 sucks and for her i it really points 886 00:44:22,142 --> 00:44:23,803 to you know right. 887 00:44:24,165 --> 00:44:26,437 She's a c piece of crap. She's she sucks. 888 00:44:26,477 --> 00:44:30,421 Like this is such a pe this is such an awful thing to do given the stakes 889 00:44:30,421 --> 00:44:32,849 of the election. Like she's such a monster. 890 00:44:32,849 --> 00:44:34,766 I I'm I'm just gonna go out and say, 891 00:44:34,766 --> 00:44:37,339 like, fuck this girl. Like, are you serious, 892 00:44:37,339 --> 00:44:40,551 dude? Like, you can't shut your mouth for one week? 893 00:44:40,551 --> 00:44:43,424 I mean, d do you understand what's on the line here? 894 00:44:43,424 --> 00:44:45,796 Like, why are you dring bringing attention? 895 00:44:44,234 --> 00:44:47,667 Right. Especi especially 896 00:44:45,796 --> 00:44:46,817 Like, it's awful. 897 00:44:47,667 --> 00:44:51,891 when it's not about anything Abdul did or said. 898 00:44:51,263 --> 00:44:52,574 And he didn't pay for the ad. 899 00:44:52,594 --> 00:44:55,736 I could see if it was his ad. I could see if he was in the ad. 900 00:44:55,736 --> 00:44:58,128 I could see if he was the one making the banana remark, 901 00:44:58,128 --> 00:45:00,099 right? This is ridiculous. 902 00:44:59,046 --> 00:45:00,046 Right. 903 00:45:00,099 --> 00:45:06,332 And like, also, also, and this is the thing that's so horrible about all of this. 904 00:45:06,332 --> 00:45:09,285 And this is again the hypocrisy that constantly happens. 905

00:45:09,285 --> 00:45:12,467 I'm, you know, married to a Jewish woman. 906 00:45:12,467 --> 00:45:15,139 You're Jewish. We obviously don't like anti-Semitism. 907 00:45:15,139 --> 00:45:19,042 We're all very sensitive to that as what it represents and what it means, 908 00:45:19,042 --> 00:45:20,042 of course. 909 00:45:19,642 --> 00:45:24,734 But why is no one sensitive to all the anti-Muslim and Islamophobic kind 910 00:45:24,734 --> 00:45:29,015 of crap that just gets pumped at us on such a daily basis? 911 00:45:29,015 --> 00:45:35,047 I mean, no one is asking any of these people to condemn the horrible comments that 912 00:45:35,047 --> 00:45:38,578 Abdul has to deal with about being Muslim literally daily. 913 00:45:38,578 --> 00:45:43,390 I mean, this week, freaking Kid Rock tells Baylmar that. 914 00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:46,482 Abdul was like the nine eleven hijackers. 915 00:45:46,482 --> 00:45:51,875 You know I mean? And this just rolls off the back of the entire country. 916 00:45:51,875 --> 00:45:54,957 And if like, you know, I don't even know what the equivalent would 917 00:45:54,957 --> 00:45:59,869 be in an anti-Jewish way, but like the level of sensitivity we'd have 918 00:45:59,869 --> 00:46:03,211 as a nation towards something agree equally egregious, 919 00:46:03,211 --> 00:46:06,082 but for the other group, would be really bad, 920 00:46:06,082 --> 00:46:08,954 as it should be. But like, I just don't I don't know. 921 00:46:08,954 --> 00:46:11,266 It makes me upset that like we don't 922 00:46:11,418 --> 00:46:17,531 have to like, we never ask people to condemn these anti Islamic things. 923 00:46:17,531 --> 00:46:22,372 And if Haley Stevens really cared about like equality, 924 00:46:22,372 --> 00:46:26,824 like she should be more outraged about that than she is about Cenk being 925 00:46:26,837 --> 00:46:28,715 a freaking phony or whatever. 926 00:46:28,865 --> 00:46:34,381 Right, and like Trump calling Abdul a jihadist last week, 927 00:46:34,381 --> 00:46:39,296 like that should be disqualifying from Mike Rogers because he's still campaigning 928 00:46:39,296 --> 00:46:40,296 with Trump, 929 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:41,470 Yep. 930 00:46:41,008 --> 00:46:44,452 and that's such a direct connection to the candidate, 931 00:46:44,452 --> 00:46:47,215 and so much more direct than this. 932 00:46:47,365 --> 00:46:52,988 Literally, Abdul and the news talked more about Hassan Piker saying 10 years 933 00:46:52,988 --> 00:46:56,970 ago or whatever, America deserved 9-11 or something like that. 934 00:46:56,970 --> 00:47:01,412 Or he didn't even say that, but something to the in the worst interpretation, 935 00:47:01,412 --> 00:47:04,474 something like that. That got weeks of news coverage. 936 00:47:04,474 --> 00:47:07,346 Abdul had to denounce it time and time again, 937 00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:09,327 had to distance himself from Hassan, 938 00:47:09,327 --> 00:47:12,529 which he has effectively done since those remarks came to light. 939 00:47:12,529 --> 00:47:13,920 Whereas to your point, 940 00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:16,521 Trump, the president of the United States, 941 00:47:16,521 --> 00:47:21,204 called the guy running for Senate a freaking jihadist, 942 00:47:21,204 --> 00:47:24,983 and he would be the only senator who'd have to go through a metal detector when 943 00:47:24,983 --> 00:47:27,238 he goes through into the Capitol building. 944 00:47:27,238 --> 00:47:29,639 Mike Rogers, no comment. No news story, 945 00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:31,680 nothing. It's fine. It's totally fine. 946 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,824 And it just the double standard we have for people who are Muslim or people 947 00:47:36,824 --> 00:47:39,085 who are Arab is just so awful. 948 00:47:39,085 --> 00:47:40,686 It's it's just it's I 949 00:47:40,871 --> 00:47:44,218 I don't get it. I don't get why we just do not seem to care. 950 00:47:44,368 --> 00:47:49,791 Yeah, it's so awful, but it's like you completely lose hope in 951 00:47:49,791 --> 00:47:54,673 the Republican Party regarding these issues based on Trump's behavior over 952 00:47:54,673 --> 00:48:00,676 the last ten years. But it's rea so when s somebody like Stevens, 953 00:48:00,676 --> 00:48:04,298 a Democrat, feeds into the whole double standard, 954 00:48:04,298 --> 00:48:05,719 it's extra frustrating. 955 00:48:05,903 --> 00:48:08,764 A hundred percent. And that's when we we should hold them to 956 00:48:08,764 --> 00:48:12,036 a different standard because they are pretending to be moral. 957 00:48:12,624 --> 00:48:13,624 Right. 958 00:48:14,037 --> 00:48:17,098 Haley Stevens pretends to be a moral person. 959 00:48:17,098 --> 00:48:20,329 And you know, we've been critical of Obama sometimes, 960 00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:24,431 but I'm being really glad that he's been campaigning hard with Abdul. 961 00:48:24,431 --> 00:48:27,363 We w we need to give him some props for that. 962 00:48:27,363 --> 00:48:29,323 I we we were we were like where is he? 963 00:48:29,323 --> 00:48:32,614 He showed up the last few weeks and big shout out to them. 964 00:48:32,764 --> 00:48:35,664 Speaking of him, of course, last week we didn't talk about it because 965 00:48:35,664 --> 00:48:38,546 it happened right on Sunday or Saturday night. 966 00:48:38,546 --> 00:48:43,996 ~ he called he said that Trump Trump has made the White House look like 967 00:48:43,996 --> 00:48:47,197 if Saddam Hussein opened up a cheesecake factory. 968 00:48:47,197 --> 00:48:51,988 And of course, Trump got mad at the Cheesecake Factory comparison, 969 00:48:51,988 --> 00:48:54,228 not the Saddam Hussein comparison, 970 00:48:54,228 --> 00:48:55,839 which was really funny. And Obama, 971 00:48:55,839 --> 00:48:57,059 of course, has latched onto that, 972 00:48:57,059 --> 00:48:59,249 which is great. I think the Daily Show did too. 973 00:48:59,249 --> 00:49:00,649 Super funny that. 974 00:49:00,799 --> 00:49:02,954 That just shows you who Trump is as a guy. 975 00:49:03,104

--> 00:49:06,096 Super funny. And I don't know if you know Pablo Torre, 976 00:49:06,096 --> 00:49:07,317 the sports 977 00:49:06,744 --> 00:49:07,744 No. 978 00:49:07,397 --> 00:49:12,131 he he's a sports journalist, who's gotten a lot of news for like uncovering like 979 00:49:12,131 --> 00:49:14,133 scandals in the NBA and stuff like that, 980 00:49:14,133 --> 00:49:16,444 but he dabbles in politics too. 981 00:49:16,444 --> 00:49:20,309 And he had a segment where it was talking about one of the Republicans 982 00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:25,374 who went on Fox News to be like acting all offended about the Cheesecake Factory. 983 00:49:25,566 --> 00:49:27,838 Being like, I remember when I was seven, 984 00:49:27,838 --> 00:49:32,152 you know, the Cheesecake Factory was the place we would go for special occasions. 985 00:49:32,152 --> 00:49:36,476 And it turns out he was like twenty eight when the Cheesecake Factory opened 986 00:49:36,672 --> 00:49:37,672 Ha ha ha. 987 00:49:37,157 --> 00:49:38,157 in his state. 988 00:49:38,698 --> 00:49:41,591 Like it's not even close. It was like decades later. 989 00:49:41,741 --> 00:49:42,900 It's funny 'cause 990 00:49:43,050 --> 00:49:47,892 And I by the way, I was at the Cheesecake Factory two weeks ago and looking 991 00:49:48,052 --> 00:49:51,043 at the design, ~ 992 00:49:50,608 --> 00:49:51,608 Well, 993 00:49:51,249 --> 00:49:54,231 me and you have gone to the Cheesecake Factory many a time. 994 00:49:54,231 --> 00:49:56,722 You know, we we have one in our town. 995 00:49:56,722 --> 00:50:00,215 The thing about the Cheesecake Factory that has always cracked me up about 996 00:50:00,215 --> 00:50:02,556 the decor is the Egyptian theme. 997 00:50:02,556 --> 00:50:03,727 Why is 998 00:50:03,267 --> 00:50:04,267 Totally. 999 00:50:03,727 --> 00:50:08,771 it Egyptian? I have never understood that type of theming for a place that sells 1000 00:50:08,771 --> 00:50:11,873 cheesecake. I yeah, 1001 00:50:11,873 --> 00:50:14,295 I mean, I love the Cheesecake Factory's Cheesecake. 1002 00:50:14,295 --> 00:50:16,076 I don't like the Cheesecake Factory 1003 00:50:16,486 --> 00:50:18,607 As much I know you like the Cheesecake Factory. 1004 00:50:18,607 --> 00:50:22,679 I like it. I don't love it. My big beef with it is that it is kind 1005 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,979 of expensive for what it is. And I also just don't like the big, 1006 00:50:25,979 --> 00:50:28,100 big menu. It freaks me out too much. 1007 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,451 I'm like, how the hell can you Yeah, 1008 00:50:28,392 --> 00:50:29,392 I love the big menu. 1009 00:50:29,451 --> 00:50:31,261 you love the big menu. I don't like the I'm like, 1010 00:50:31,261 --> 00:50:32,582 how the hell can you make all this? 1011 00:50:32,582 --> 00:50:34,902 You love the big menu. You're a big menu guy. 1012 00:50:35,052 --> 00:50:37,798 Yeah. I've always been a Cheesecake Factory guy. 1013 00:50:37,948 --> 00:50:39,792 Yeah, you love I I I like it too. 1014

00:50:39,792 --> 00:50:41,947 I mean their cheesecake is legitimately good too. 1015 00:50:41,947 --> 00:50:43,912 Like I I'm a big cheesecake guy. 1016 00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:44,411 Yeah. The Obama joke was great. 1017 00:50:44,561 --> 00:50:46,806 Yeah, he's hilarious. And Trump is so funny, 1018 00:50:46,806 --> 00:50:47,806 he doesn't even care. 1019 00:50:47,064 --> 00:50:48,064 And like there 1020 00:50:47,636 --> 00:50:51,190 there are a lot of gold pillars in the Cheesecake Factory. 1021 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:52,938 Yeah. 1022 00:50:51,458 --> 00:50:53,049 It's very golden, yeah. And 1023 00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:54,589 I was I said this the other day, 1024 00:50:54,589 --> 00:50:59,490 I we we I was in DC last week and you do see a lot more gold painted thing 1025 00:50:59,490 --> 00:51:01,872 he definitely has done that. He's so tacky. 1026 00:51:01,872 --> 00:51:04,312 But we should talk about Alaska. 1027 00:51:04,312 --> 00:51:08,014 So last week we talked about the drama of the two Dan Sullivans. 1028 00:51:08,014 --> 00:51:10,740 Now there's the Republican Dan Sullivan, 1029 00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:12,831 there's the independent Dan Sullivan, 1030 00:51:12,831 --> 00:51:17,363 and then there's the Democrat who I'm actually blanking on her name. 1031 00:51:17,163 --> 00:51:18,163 P Peltola. 1032 00:51:17,363 --> 00:51:18,363 Right. Volto 1033 00:51:18,274 --> 00:51:19,274 Volto, thank you. 1034 00:51:19,274 --> 00:51:21,325 So we were talking about the differences, 1035 00:51:21,325 --> 00:51:25,638 how it's Daniel J versus Dan something or whatever, 1036 00:51:25,638 --> 00:51:27,399 and how they're not involved. Well, 1037 00:51:27,399 --> 00:51:33,583 more reporting this week from the New York Times came out that says that maybe like 1038 00:51:33,742 --> 00:51:37,346 they wanted the can the the other Dan Sullivan to run. 1039 00:51:37,346 --> 00:51:40,328 There might be some shenanigans with this Dan Sullivan. 1040 00:51:40,328 --> 00:51:42,750 But what what's going on? You're our Alaska, 1041 00:51:42,750 --> 00:51:44,701 our Alaska field reporter. 1042 00:51:44,851 --> 00:51:46,449 It's no good. It's no good. 1043 00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:48,988 So tell us, what hap what's going on with these Sullivans? 1044 00:51:49,184 --> 00:51:54,705 So, like last week we covered this where Trump was saying 1045 00:51:55,506 --> 00:51:58,487 if the Republican incumbent Dan Sullivan loses, 1046 00:51:58,487 --> 00:52:04,108 we're not going to certify the votes because the only way he'll lose 1047 00:52:04,268 --> 00:52:09,079 in Alaska is if people get confused and vote for the independent Daniel J. 1048 00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:16,031 Sullivan. And we thought that was bullshit because the Alaskan Supreme Court already 1049 00:52:16,031 --> 00:52:18,322 ruled that the independent Daniel Sullivan 1050 00:52:18,472 --> 00:52:21,704 went through all the legal steps to be on the ballot. 1051 00:52:21,704 --> 00:52:26,927 So you can't just take off the ballot or decertify the results. 1052 00:52:26,927 --> 00:52:33,491 ~ but unfortunately the d th if this New York Times report 1053 00:52:33,491 --> 00:52:38,574 is true, ~ various members of her campaign, 1054 00:52:38,574 --> 00:52:45,298 lawyers, senior aides, and employees at the D S C C 1055 00:52:45,448 --> 00:52:50,972 the s Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee allegedly recruited 1056 00:52:51,052 --> 00:52:57,676 the independent Daniel Sullivan to be on the ballot to do exactly what Trump 1057 00:52:57,676 --> 00:53:02,200 accused them of doing. So not 1058 00:53:00,486 --> 00:53:01,486 Not great, Bob. 1059 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:07,964 great. so I haven't the the time said it relied 1060 00:53:07,964 --> 00:53:13,207 on twelve sources. it's not good. 1061 00:53:13,207 --> 00:53:14,207 And 1062 00:53:13,582 --> 00:53:14,582 No. 1063 00:53:14,178 --> 00:53:18,372 If this is true, it may be illegal 1064 00:53:19,373 --> 00:53:24,098 and possibly Peltola should not be Senator if she wins. 1065 00:53:24,098 --> 00:53:26,440 Now obviously it depends on 1066 00:53:26,590 --> 00:53:31,764 Did she know that somebody was recruiting him for the to be this spoiler candidate, 1067 00:53:31,764 --> 00:53:37,218 right? And it depends on like it just depends on the details, 1068 00:53:37,218 --> 00:53:40,520 right? And that's why like I like Trump is calling on her to drop out, 1069 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,433 and I don't think she should drop out because I think this should 1070 00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:47,976 be litigated in court where you can actually see the sources and the details. 1071 00:53:47,976 --> 00:53:54,371 but it would be a violation of campaign law to 1072 00:53:54,521 --> 00:53:58,980 for the Democratic candidate to recruit an independent with the same name 1073 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,867 to sabotage the Republican. assuming it was 1074 00:54:01,572 --> 00:54:02,903 Yeah, that that ain't great. 1075 00:54:03,028 --> 00:54:04,601 actually coordinated. 1076 00:54:04,751 --> 00:54:07,792 Well, if it was coordinated definitely and also, 1077 00:54:07,792 --> 00:54:11,793 you know, we have to h give her the Elizabeth Holmes treatment of like, 1078 00:54:11,793 --> 00:54:13,984 can she really play ignorant? You know what I mean? 1079 00:54:13,984 --> 00:54:15,915 Like if you run if you're on the ticket, 1080 00:54:15,915 --> 00:54:19,366 you kinda have to eat the sin of your campaign to some extent, 1081 00:54:19,366 --> 00:54:21,307 even if you didn't really know or whatever. 1082 00:54:21,307 --> 00:54:24,579 Yeah, not great. And i i it it's a great example though 1083 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:30,511 of how I feel about the Democratic Party in general, 1084 00:54:30,511 --> 00:54:32,272 in that obviously 1085 00:54:32,722 --> 00:54:37,415 in this situation, we have to not have Republicans be in office. 1086 00:54:37,415 --> 00:54:41,807 And the Democrats are are really are the lesser of two evils, 1087 00:54:41,807 -->

00:54:45,059 you know? But that gulf is bigger than people like to assume. 1088 00:54:45,059 --> 00:54:46,670 That's what I always say and I I think that. 1089 00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:51,962 The the truth is though that the Democratic Party needs an entire refresh. 1090 00:54:51,962 --> 00:54:55,083 You know? Like it needs a complete refresh. 1091 00:54:55,083 --> 00:54:56,083 And 1092 00:54:55,974 --> 00:54:57,885 A lot of people get mad when we talk about, 1093 00:54:57,885 --> 00:55:00,121 the institutionalists or whatever, 1094 00:55:00,121 --> 00:55:01,772 the corporate Dems and stuff like that, 1095 00:55:01,772 --> 00:55:03,543 because they say, come on and it's true, 1096 00:55:03,543 --> 00:55:06,153 the Democratic Party is not a coordinated group. 1097 00:55:06,153 --> 00:55:09,004 The DNC is not this master puppet masters. 1098 00:55:09,004 --> 00:55:11,405 if they were, they'd be doing a lot better than they currently do. 1099 00:55:11,405 --> 00:55:15,366 they're not a good group. That be and so like it is it two things can be true. 1100 00:55:15,366 --> 00:55:17,246 Like one is that the 1101 00:55:17,396 --> 00:55:20,778 individual Massachusetts Democratic parties and all these different things. 1102 00:55:20,778 --> 00:55:25,030 They're not like this master web in the way that they are sometimes accused of. 1103 00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:29,313 It is also true though that for just too long they have just been run 1104 00:55:29,393 --> 00:55:35,076 so poorly and it allows for stuff like this to creep in in a way that wouldn't 1105 00:55:35,226 --> 00:55:39,299 if they were a better organized and better positioned bunch. 1106 00:55:39,299 --> 00:55:43,601 They need a total refresh. And my hope would be that twenty twenty 1107 00:55:43,751 --> 00:55:47,897 six, we can get the Democrats into the other branches of government 1108 00:55:47,897 --> 00:55:51,503 and in twenty twenty eight we can begin the rebuilding of what it means 1109 00:55:51,503 --> 00:55:53,606 to be a Democrat in the country. 1110 00:55:53,606 --> 00:55:57,913 Because yeah, the party itself is just busted in so many ways. 1111 00:55:58,063 --> 00:56:02,265 Yeah, and all the reports say Schumer plays this massive role 1112 00:56:02,366 --> 00:56:05,388 in like recruiting white Democrats run for Senate. 1113 00:56:05,388 --> 00:56:10,842 Of course, you always see his willingness to endorse centrists early 1114 00:56:10,842 --> 00:56:14,034 and fight tooth and nail in the primary against progressives. 1115 00:56:12,491 --> 00:56:13,491 Ha ha ha. 1116 00:56:15,756 --> 00:56:21,480 the frustrating thing about this though is that let's say this New York Times report 1117 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,021 never came out, right? 1118 00:56:23,171 --> 00:56:26,634 Peltola, because of how unpopular Trump is, 1119 00:56:26,634 --> 00:56:32,879 and how big of a thing oil prices are in Alaska and everything else, 1120 00:56:32,879 --> 00:56:38,344 like this was a race that six months 1121 00:56:38,344 --> 00:56:41,687 ago the Republican incumbent was a big favorite to win. 1122 00:56:41,687 --> 00:56:47,031 And Peltola climbed her way to it being a tie in the polls. 1123 00:56:47,031 --> 00:56:49,673 And even some polls have her up. 1124 00:56:49,673 --> 00:56:51,425 So it's like 1125 00:56:51,575 --> 00:56:53,977 She didn't need this dumb 1126 00:56:53,230 --> 00:56:54,230 No. 1127 00:56:54,298 --> 00:56:57,801 Daniel J. Sullivan thing. Right. 1128 00:56:56,443 --> 00:56:58,497 Shenanigans. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 1129 00:56:57,801 --> 00:56:58,862 Like that's 1130 00:56:58,903 --> 00:57:03,547 like she didn't need that, and it's probably going to cost her the election now. 1131 00:57:03,547 --> 00:57:09,393 ~ just what what a stupid move if she was ac if the New York Times report 1132 00:57:09,393 --> 00:57:10,393 is accurate. 1133 00:57:10,114 --> 00:57:11,986 Yeah, and I I I believe them, you know, 1134 00:57:11,986 --> 00:57:16,159 off the jump. Yeah. So i i i it's it's a s it's a sad state of affairs. 1135 00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:18,491 Yeah, speaking of Schumer, this week, 1136 00:57:18,491 --> 00:57:22,205 you know, Trump said he'll accept the results if they're honest elections, 1137 00:57:22,205 --> 00:57:23,986 which is so awful that he says that. 1138 00:57:23,986 --> 00:57:25,577 When have they not been honest? 1139 00:57:25,577 --> 00:57:28,170 We're honest when you win, not honest when you lose. 1140 00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:30,692 He's a piece of shit. I thought this was interesting. 1141 00:57:30,692 --> 00:57:34,686 So this week Chuck Schumer has launched a quote unquote war room. 1142 00:57:34,836 --> 00:57:38,158 To guard against efforts to steal the election, 1143 00:57:38,158 --> 00:57:41,351 Semaphore reports. What what does that mean? 1144 00:57:41,351 --> 00:57:46,024 What what what is a war room and what does it mean? 1145 00:57:46,024 --> 00:57:48,565 What what is what what is that t what is he talking about? 1146 00:57:48,565 --> 00:57:50,316 Like what like do you know what that means? 1147 00:57:50,316 --> 00:57:51,857 Launching a war room? 1148 00:57:52,007 --> 00:57:55,547 No, I just picture I I mean I just picture a bunch 1149 00:57:52,827 --> 00:57:55,299 Neither do I. ~ Yeah. 1150 00:57:55,547 --> 00:57:59,207 of aggressive lawyers scowling around a table. 1151 00:57:59,357 --> 00:58:01,838 He said, Why did I launch it? He says, 1152 00:58:01,838 --> 00:58:05,009 Trump is, quote unquote, directing a government wide effort 1153 00:58:05,009 --> 00:58:08,571 to prevent Americans from voting and to change any results he doesn't like. 1154 00:58:08,571 --> 00:58:11,332 We cannot just sit back and wait for him to concede. 1155 00:58:11,332 --> 00:58:15,844 But what what does that mean? Like they're all gonna get together and grumble? 1156 00:58:15,844 --> 00:58:16,844 Yeah. Like what 1157 00:58:17,905 --> 00:58:23,326 What? I g I I just I just like the to me this feels kind 1158 00:58:23,326 -->

00:58:25,597 of like classic Schumer, you know, 1159 00:58:25,597 --> 00:58:28,137 where we're gonna file an affidavit, 1160 00:58:28,137 --> 00:58:30,937 like we're gonna gather the, you know, 1161 00:58:30,937 --> 00:58:35,207 whatever like like like a some procedural thing that doesn't seem 1162 00:58:35,207 --> 00:58:39,359 to scratch any ish. Like, if you think there's a legitimate chance that Trump 1163 00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:42,009 is gonna actually try to meddle with the election, 1164 00:58:42,009 --> 00:58:45,180 creating a war room seems like maybe not. 1165 00:58:45,418 --> 00:58:47,761 the right approach? Like let us know. 1166 00:58:47,761 --> 00:58:48,778 Yeah. 1167 00:58:48,194 --> 00:58:49,194 Yeah, I don't know 1168 00:58:48,787 --> 00:58:51,912 if renting out a We Work conference room is gonna do it. 1169 00:58:50,912 --> 00:58:53,145 ~ Are 1170 00:58:53,145 --> 00:58:56,619 they all gonna go on exercise bikes and just fucking sweat it out? 1171 00:58:56,619 --> 00:58:58,101 Like w 1172 00:58:56,737 --> 00:58:57,737 Yeah. 1173 00:58:58,122 --> 00:59:00,637 like yeah, I just I don't know what that means. 1174 00:59:00,637 --> 00:59:03,548 I I it made me upset, actually. 1175 00:59:03,548 --> 00:59:05,831 I saw that news and it made me feel bad. 1176 00:59:04,750 --> 00:59:05,750 Well, it's 1177 00:59:06,475 --> 00:59:11,929 it's very Hagseth language. Like let me inject this militaristic language into this 1178 00:59:11,929 --> 00:59:12,929 thing. 1179 00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:15,791 And it makes me worry that there's some sort of legitimate risk. 1180 00:59:15,791 --> 00:59:20,753 You know, like why would he say that out loud if he wasn't somewhat worried about 1181 00:59:20,753 --> 00:59:24,834 it? And it seems like he's trying to get ahead of the press to seem like he's being 1182 00:59:24,834 --> 00:59:28,936 proactive about something. But but proactive about what? 1183 00:59:28,936 --> 00:59:31,253 And is this even really proactive? 1184 00:59:31,253 --> 00:59:32,967 Like I just feel very confused. 1185 00:59:32,967 --> 00:59:36,498 I feel very something about this really rubbed me the wrong way. 1186 00:59:36,648 --> 00:59:38,971 And made me like really uncomfortable. 1187 00:59:38,971 --> 00:59:43,666 Increased acid reflux. The acid reflux meter went up reading that. 1188 00:59:43,053 --> 00:59:44,053 Yeah. 1189 00:59:44,497 --> 00:59:51,212 Yeah, I don't know if it matters if the people fighting Trump's election bullshit 1190 00:59:51,433 --> 00:59:53,187 are in the same physical room. 1191 00:59:53,337 --> 00:59:57,432 Yeah. I don't I don't know. And also like what are they doing? 1192 00:59:57,432 --> 01:00:00,004 How what fighting again, like what does that mean? 1193 01:00:00,004 --> 01:00:01,416 Like what are we talking about? 1194 01:00:01,416 --> 01:00:03,527 What what are you doing? Do something. 1195 01:00:03,527 --> 01:00:08,080 We got coffee and we went into a conference room and we just frowned for 1196 01:00:08,566 --> 01:00:09,566 Right, like when 1197 01:00:09,467 --> 01:00:14,000 I hear War Room I always think of the famous photo of Obama and Hillary 1198 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,292 and all of them watching the Bin Laden attacks. 1199 01:00:16,292 --> 01:00:18,474 Where they're all around that table. 1200 01:00:16,682 --> 01:00:18,704 Which of course Trump did the war room 1201 01:00:18,944 --> 01:00:24,449 with Operation Hammer Strike or whatever in Mar-a-Lago with the curtain the 1202 01:00:21,832 --> 01:00:23,872 Yeah. Right. 1203 01:00:24,449 --> 01:00:25,790 their ad hoc war room. 1204 01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:28,995 So is is that what they're gonna like they're gonna watch this and just 1205 01:00:28,995 --> 01:00:32,720 be like Alaska went blue, Trump's launching the attack. 1206 01:00:34,471 --> 01:00:35,552 all right, file 1207 01:00:36,146 --> 01:00:37,146 Yeah. 1208 01:00:36,453 --> 01:00:39,365 file the paperwork, Joe. Like 1209 01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:39,639 Yeah. 1210 01:00:39,365 --> 01:00:41,236 what is it gonna actually look like? 1211 01:00:41,236 --> 01:00:45,489 Cause this week a federal judge found that the DOJ and DHS 1212 01:00:46,449 --> 01:00:50,653 had officials quote unquote engaged in a campaign to intimidate, 1213 01:00:50,653 --> 01:00:56,476 threaten, and coerce election workers and has barred them through november 1214 01:00:56,476 --> 01:00:57,476 sixteenth. 1215 01:00:57,247 --> 01:01:02,550 Because of this bid that the DOJ has put to look at 20,000 California ballots. 1216 01:01:02,550 --> 01:01:07,472 Now, this 20,000 California ballot has gotten a lot of publicity because what 1217 01:01:07,472 --> 01:01:11,134 it is is the DOJ says there are 20,000 people who are registered 1218 01:01:11,134 --> 01:01:13,414 who aren't citizens who are registered to vote. 1219 01:01:13,414 --> 01:01:18,096 Early screenings have showed that at least 25% of the people are registered to vote. 1220 01:01:18,096 --> 01:01:19,707 They don't even exist as people, 1221 01:01:19,707 --> 01:01:22,079 rather, sorry. So they're just f fiction. 1222 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,280 They're not even in there. So 1223 01:01:24,430 --> 01:01:27,914 That doesn't mean that they're done and the rest are actually illegal immigrants. 1224 01:01:27,914 --> 01:01:28,914 Like that doesn't mean anything. 1225 01:01:28,795 --> 01:01:33,580 It's just showing that off first glance they've made up twenty percent of the names, 1226 01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:39,545 period. So yeah, anyways, I does feel like something's gonna happen. 1227 01:01:39,545 --> 01:01:41,918 I don't know, I don't feel good about this whatsoever. 1228 01:01:42,068 --> 01:01:47,001 Definitely. I mean Trump is in his full like Mad King era and this is like 1229 01:01:47,001 --> 01:01:50,063 the this midterms are like the troops at the gates, 1230 01:01:50,063 --> 01:01:51,314 like ready to 1231 01:01:50,908 --> 01:01:51,908 Yep. 1232 01:01:51,314 --> 01:01:55,386 overtake him, and he's

gonna yell like burn it all to the ground. 1233 01:01:55,386 --> 01:02:01,680 I don't think Trump can psychologically handle losing the Senate. 1234 01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:04,608 Do you think there will be big protests Wednesday? 1235 01:02:04,608 --> 01:02:07,446 One way or the other, or do you think they'll be delayed if any? 1236 01:02:07,596 --> 01:02:14,179 Probably delayed. I'm more worried about there being a lot of razor close elections. 1237 01:02:14,179 --> 01:02:19,621 And so there'll be all these lawsuits about recounts before they'll even 1238 01:02:19,621 --> 01:02:24,343 be finalized and then you'll have the next wave of BS lawsuits, 1239 01:02:24,343 --> 01:02:25,724 you know. 1240 01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:26,500 Totally. 1241 01:02:26,431 --> 01:02:31,871 And th they'll try to point to some of the results not being done by, 1242 01:02:31,871 --> 01:02:33,969 you know, not Tuesday night, you know, 1243 01:02:33,969 --> 01:02:35,865 Wednesday, Thursday, wh whatever, 1244 01:02:35,865 --> 01:02:39,036 and try to use that as an excuse to something being, 1245 01:02:39,036 --> 01:02:41,358 you know, suspicious, which is total BS. 1246 01:02:41,358 --> 01:02:43,650 Yeah, it's funny how this is now in vogue. 1247 01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:45,391 So of course, like I mentioned off the top, 1248 01:02:45,391 --> 01:02:48,104 Israel had their elections this week. 1249 01:02:48,104 --> 01:02:51,436 ~ Netanyahu's block, so the way they do it's like 1250 01:02:51,618 --> 01:02:53,708 not the it's not one to one in the US. 1251 01:02:53,708 --> 01:02:57,070 They're these political blocks and that's how they they choose it. 1252 01:02:57,070 --> 01:02:59,290 It's more par parliamentary in that way. 1253 01:02:59,290 --> 01:03:03,340 So Netanyahu's block has fifty three seats, 1254 01:03:03,340 --> 01:03:07,230 eight short of a majority. The Arab parties did really well. 1255 01:03:07,230 --> 01:03:09,592 They won a record of nineteen seats. 1256 01:03:09,592 --> 01:03:14,843 And Netanyahu trotted out the whole line that they were stealing the vote. 1257 01:03:14,843 --> 01:03:18,481 Which of of course i it's just such a bad look. 1258 01:03:18,693 --> 01:03:22,384 I feel like anyone who's saying that they're stealing the vote when you're losing 1259 01:03:22,384 --> 01:03:24,605 is a sign that you're a mad king, 1260 01:03:24,605 --> 01:03:28,716 right? And so it's just once again, 1261 01:03:28,716 --> 01:03:34,248 just an absolute embarrassment for democracy in general that every time 1262 01:03:34,248 --> 01:03:40,451 the person who is suspected to have lost claims that they were unfairly beaten. 1263 01:03:40,451 --> 01:03:41,451 It's just embarrassing. 1264 01:03:41,501 --> 01:03:47,123 Yeah, it keeps happening and it's always tr the Trump allies that do it. 1265 01:03:47,123 --> 01:03:53,564 Like Netanyahu and in Braz Brazil just had an election where 1266 01:03:52,624 --> 01:03:53,624 Mm-hmm. 1267 01:03:54,225 --> 01:03:58,426 Flavio Bolsonaro lost and he's claiming it was a rigged election 1268 01:03:58,596 --> 01:03:59,596 Mm-hmm. 1269 01:03:59,206 --> 01:04:03,097 and his father was president from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three, 1270 01:04:03,097 --> 01:04:08,729 Yair Bolsonaro. And when he lost he claimed it was fraudulent. 1271 01:04:08,729 --> 01:04:09,849 He's a close friend of Trump. 1272 01:04:09,989 --> 01:04:13,291 He's currently in jail for election fraud himself, 1273 01:04:13,291 --> 01:04:16,883 I think. So, yeah, Lula won a fourth term. 1274 01:04:16,883 --> 01:04:21,276 And Lula is an old it's kind of funny because it does mirror the Biden Trump dynamic 1275 01:04:21,276 --> 01:04:24,838 a little bit, because Lula's like this old geezer who probably shouldn't 1276 01:04:24,838 --> 01:04:29,609 be running for anything. And Bolsonaro is related to a fraudster 1277 01:04:29,890 --> 01:04:32,891 and like just cheats and lies and it's just a terrible guy. 1278 01:04:32,891 --> 01:04:35,142 Trump called it another rigged election. 1279 01:04:35,292 --> 01:04:39,923 And the State Department immediately granted all of the Bolsonaro's visas. 1280 01:04:39,923 --> 01:04:43,605 Which dude, the US is such a scummy country nowadays with Trump. 1281 01:04:43,605 --> 01:04:46,635 Like it's just unbelievable how horrible it is. 1282 01:04:46,635 --> 01:04:50,507 The the margin on that Brazil election was four million votes, 1283 01:04:50,507 --> 01:04:52,627 which is slim, you know, in a big country, 1284 01:04:52,627 --> 01:04:54,978 but not nothing. Yeah. You know. 1285 01:04:54,978 --> 01:04:58,368 It's also funny, Bolsonaro left the country, 1286 01:04:58,368 --> 01:05:01,699 which is a rare move if you think you're 1287 01:05:01,849 --> 01:05:06,787 rightfully won an election. Just doesn't seem like what I would do if 1288 01:05:06,787 --> 01:05:08,292 I thought I was gonna be the president. 1289 01:05:08,442 --> 01:05:13,486 Isn't it so depressing that he chooses the United States to flee to instead 1290 01:05:13,486 --> 01:05:17,609 of a famous right right instead 1291 01:05:14,156 --> 01:05:15,715 Russia, where they used to flee. 1292 01:05:17,609 --> 01:05:24,125 of like countries with dictators that they're friends with or neutral countries with 1293 01:05:24,125 --> 01:05:30,009 no extradition policies, like instead they're they just are friends with Trump close 1294 01:05:30,009 --> 01:05:32,331 enough, so this has become a place they can flee to. 1295 01:05:32,331 --> 01:05:34,413 And apparently 1296 01:05:32,588 --> 01:05:33,610 Yeah, it it's 1297 01:05:34,673 --> 01:05:38,086 Flavio's brother already lives in the US the past few years. 1298 01:05:37,452 --> 01:05:38,452 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're 1299 01:05:38,203 --> 01:05:42,736 they're all hiding here. It's it's very similar to Argentina. 1300 01:05:42,736 --> 01:05:45,208 It's it's similar to how the US meddles with all these things. 1301 01:05:45,208 --> 01:05:47,179 It's it's terrible. I mean

Yeah, 1302 01:05:47,179 --> 01:05:52,442 it's funny. It's these midterms will be an indictment on a lot of things. 1303 01:05:52,442 --> 01:05:55,044 In a lot of ways. Not just the American sentiment, 1304 01:05:55,044 --> 01:05:59,096 but specifically this claim that democracy was on the ballot. 1305 01:05:59,096 --> 01:06:03,330 I think that that was the big claim that Democrats made in twenty twenty four. 1306 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,001 You know, obviously we've watched Trump do everything in his power 1307 01:06:07,001 --> 01:06:12,274 to erode the American institutions to try to keep things legal, 1308 01:06:12,274 --> 01:06:15,345 right? He he just simply does not care about the law. 1309 01:06:15,345 --> 01:06:19,006 And we've seen the way he's eroded so many of these systems. 1310 01:06:19,006 --> 01:06:22,887 If the midterms hold and go well, 1311 01:06:22,887 --> 01:06:25,878 not just by being democrats, just that feel fair and just, 1312 01:06:25,878 --> 01:06:29,609 it will be really nice to just see the American system withstand. 1313 01:06:29,759 --> 01:06:33,742 very much wanna be dictator. If they don't 1314 01:06:35,523 --> 01:06:37,814 we will no longer be, you know, 1315 01:06:37,814 --> 01:06:41,997 a liberal democracy. Right? Like so it's it's a pretty controversial moment 1316 01:06:42,017 --> 01:06:44,759 in American history that I yeah, 1317 01:06:44,759 --> 01:06:48,481 I just I just this is so depressing that we even have to talk about this stuff. 1318 01:06:48,481 --> 01:06:50,052 I've never had to talk about this in my own life. 1319 01:06:50,202 --> 01:06:54,914 Right. Yeah, and Democrats winning would just go such a long way. 1320 01:06:54,914 --> 01:07:00,008 Just like the walloping in two thousand six went such a long way to 1321 01:07:00,008 --> 01:07:02,980 be like we're done with George W. 1322 01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:04,061 Bush. Like this 1323 01:07:03,687 --> 01:07:04,687 Yeah. 1324 01:07:04,061 --> 01:07:07,423 would really say we're done with Trump. 1325 01:07:07,423 --> 01:07:12,356 Even though Trump would still be able to do a lot of damage in two years 'cause he's 1326 01:07:12,356 --> 01:07:15,509 done a lot of damage without Congress already, 1327 01:07:15,509 --> 01:07:17,490 even when he's had support from them. 1328 01:07:17,490 --> 01:07:18,871 So like 1329 01:07:19,021 --> 01:07:20,422 Some people are saying, you know, 1330 01:07:20,422 --> 01:07:23,514 this would end effectively end Trump's presidency. 1331 01:07:23,514 --> 01:07:28,197 Like I'm not that optimistic. He's still gonna ICE is still gonna be 1332 01:07:28,197 --> 01:07:31,329 all over the place. Right. 1333 01:07:28,563 --> 01:07:31,568 And sign every illegal executive order that he can under the sun. 1334 01:07:31,568 --> 01:07:33,070 He still has control over the military. 1335 01:07:33,070 --> 01:07:34,070 Yeah, yeah. 1336 01:07:33,435 --> 01:07:37,621 But like how we're perceived internationally, 1337 01:07:37,621 --> 01:07:41,880 I think it would signal like Americans are finally fed up with him, 1338 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,880 which would be great. 1339 01:07:42,153 --> 01:07:43,153 It would be 1340 01:07:42,633 --> 01:07:44,794 a Victor Orban moment when they kicked him out, 1341 01:07:44,794 --> 01:07:47,294 you know, of Hungary and they said no more, 1342 01:07:47,294 --> 01:07:51,885 you know. It it would be something along those lines where it would just mean a lot, 1343 01:07:51,885 --> 01:07:56,626 I think. To to to to to to to to people, 1344 01:07:56,626 --> 01:08:00,067 you know. 'Cause it it would make me feel better too, 1345 01:08:00,067 --> 01:08:03,568 just in general about the nation and just like my fellow countrymen, 1346 01:08:03,568 --> 01:08:07,689 you know, like like in a way. I just hope that this doesn't 1347 01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:09,761 'Cause this will be a real indictment of the system. 1348 01:08:09,761 --> 01:08:13,764 And it also will be a a brew real proof that our our systems are really strong, 1349 01:08:13,764 --> 01:08:17,156 you know? If we can oust wannabe fascists, 1350 01:08:17,156 --> 01:08:21,079 I think, and wannabe authoritarians or whatever you want to call them in a way, 1351 01:08:21,079 --> 01:08:23,591 people who've been stealing so much money from us. 1352 01:08:23,591 --> 01:08:28,555 Like s that's what's like the the personal profiteering that these people have been 1353 01:08:28,555 --> 01:08:31,127 doing, the laws that they've been breaking, 1354 01:08:31,127 --> 01:08:35,020 the lack of respect they had for the dem the whole country. 1355 01:08:35,170 --> 01:08:38,193 The citizens, it's just it's it's that stuff. 1356 01:08:38,193 --> 01:08:42,989 I'd like to see that that stuff gets you defeated because if it doesn't, 1357 01:08:42,989 --> 01:08:43,989 right 1358 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,772 We will never stop, I don't think. 1359 01:08:45,772 --> 01:08:49,105 'Cause it will give if Republicans do well this midterm, 1360 01:08:49,105 --> 01:08:52,678 it basically says to them they can do whatever they want and they will never lose. 1361 01:08:52,678 --> 01:08:55,700 Because if this isn't enough, the lying and stealing, 1362 01:08:55,444 --> 01:08:56,444 Mm-hmm. Right. 1363 01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:56,700 then 1364 01:08:56,341 --> 01:08:57,972 what is? Right? Like I mean 1365 01:08:57,648 --> 01:08:58,648 Yeah. 1366 01:08:57,972 --> 01:09:00,254 what what what else couldn't they do? 1367 01:09:00,254 --> 01:09:04,047 And I yeah, I just think Yeah, 1368 01:09:04,047 --> 01:09:06,529 yeah, yeah. Please God. I will 1369 01:09:05,812 --> 01:09:06,812 Yeah. 1370 01:09:06,529 --> 01:09:08,491 cry on TV if this doesn't happen. 1371 01:09:08,631 --> 01:09:09,631 Cry on the stream. 1372 01:09:09,675 --> 01:09:11,406 Literally, I think I would literally cry. 1373 01:09:11,406 --> 01:09:14,437 ~ some other things that I wanted to get to, 1374 01:09:14,437 --> 01:09:16,078 and this is a big piece of news. 1375

01:09:16,078 --> 01:09:18,529 So this week, just last night, 1376 01:09:18,529 --> 01:09:24,652 a federal judge in Miami dismissed Trump's ten billion defamation lawsuit 1377 01:09:24,832 --> 01:09:28,293 of the Wall Street Journal about the Epstein birthday card. 1378 01:09:28,293 --> 01:09:31,574 Remember that little nugget? If for those who don't remember, 1379 01:09:31,574 --> 01:09:35,354 the birthday card of the nude woman and all those creepy, 1380 01:09:35,354 --> 01:09:37,245 cryptic comments about 1381 01:09:37,480 --> 01:09:42,622 women and young girls and Trump signing his thing on the woman's crotch 1382 01:09:42,622 --> 01:09:44,223 in the thing. It's just really weird. 1383 01:09:44,223 --> 01:09:46,274 yeah, he says that it's totally dismissed. 1384 01:09:46,274 --> 01:09:49,975 This is for good. He said the lawsuit was grasping at straws, 1385 01:09:49,975 --> 01:09:54,407 quote unquote. This basically confirms that that is Trump's card, 1386 01:09:54,407 --> 01:09:56,658 right? His story that this was fake, 1387 01:09:56,658 --> 01:09:58,639 that it wasn't him who signed it. 1388 01:09:58,639 --> 01:10:00,620 He doesn't draw remember that little nugget. 1389 01:10:00,770 --> 01:10:02,231 That little chestnut of a lie, 1390 01:10:02,231 --> 01:10:05,952 I don't draw. Which is talk about grasping at straws. 1391 01:10:05,952 --> 01:10:08,943 So he did the card, right? Like that that's what this says, 1392 01:10:08,943 --> 01:10:13,375 I think. And so that's another thing that's surprisingly not on the ballot here 1393 01:10:13,375 --> 01:10:14,816 is his connection with Epstein. 1394 01:10:14,966 --> 01:10:18,338 Yeah, totally. And I think like the lawsuit, 1395 01:10:18,338 --> 01:10:20,509 because it was dismissed with prejudice, 1396 01:10:20,509 --> 01:10:24,771 like prevents him from filing future claims. 1397 01:10:24,771 --> 01:10:27,732 Not all future defamation claims related to Epstein, 1398 01:10:27,732 --> 01:10:34,105 but some of them. which is good in that that doesn't 1399 01:10:34,105 --> 01:10:37,147 happen unless it's, you know, 1400 01:10:37,147 --> 01:10:39,498 very likely that these reports were true. 1401 01:10:39,648 --> 01:10:42,760 Mm. A hundred percent. And I think they are. 1402 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,031 That's what I I mean, I 1403 01:10:43,367 --> 01:10:44,367 Of course. 1404 01:10:44,031 --> 01:10:47,964 of course. And so who would have thought that this wouldn't even be a 1405 01:10:47,964 --> 01:10:50,175 top five issue come the midterms? 1406 01:10:50,175 --> 01:10:51,857 If you had polled us a year ago, 1407 01:10:51,857 --> 01:10:53,678 you we would think it'd be at least top five, 1408 01:10:53,678 --> 01:10:59,604 right? That Trump is almost certainly now more aware of the Epstein things that he's 1409 01:10:59,604 --> 01:11:02,406 ever let on based off of these rulings. 1410 01:11:02,406 --> 01:11:03,837 Then it just doesn't seem to matter. 1411 01:11:03,987 --> 01:11:07,690 Yeah, it is interesting how the Epstein issue has kind of disappeared. 1412 01:11:07,690 --> 01:11:10,653 I've been thinking about it 'cause I've been getting this TV ad. 1413 01:11:10,653 --> 01:11:13,395 I think it's for one of the New Hampshire races, 1414 01:11:13,395 --> 01:11:19,890 where it's a really aggressive ad against the Republican featuring Epstein 1415 01:11:19,890 --> 01:11:25,365 victims ~ speaking about the assaults and saying, 1416 01:11:25,365 --> 01:11:29,518 How could this person vote against the release of the Epstein files? 1417 01:11:29,518 --> 01:11:32,331 And like I feel like a year ago 1418 01:11:32,481 --> 01:11:35,553 We were like, this is gonna be the central thing in the midterms. 1419 01:11:35,553 --> 01:11:39,595 Like this is gonna be in all of the ads is Trump and Epstein. 1420 01:11:39,595 --> 01:11:42,136 But you're just not seeing it as much. 1421 01:11:42,136 --> 01:11:45,458 And sadly, 1422 01:11:45,458 --> 01:11:50,130 I think it's because people care more about the price of gas than they 1423 01:11:50,130 --> 01:11:54,963 do with the president being a credible rapist and best friends with 1424 01:11:54,963 --> 01:11:57,604 the most infamous pedophile ever. 1425 01:11:57,604 --> 01:11:59,655 So 1426 01:11:59,004 --> 01:12:00,004 Yeah, I mean 1427 01:11:59,655 --> 01:12:00,986 so like Democrats 1428 01:12:01,136 --> 01:12:03,897 have decided just to run on the economic stuff. 1429 01:12:03,897 --> 01:12:07,038 which is kinda sad, 1430 01:12:07,038 --> 01:12:10,670 but like in the end, you know, 1431 01:12:10,670 --> 01:12:14,281 the results will matter, so who knows if that's the right strategy. 1432 01:12:14,281 --> 01:12:20,284 But I was expecting Epstein to be more of an issue in the midterms than it it is. 1433 01:12:20,434 --> 01:12:22,925 Yeah, the Republicans spoke w they said we don't care. 1434 01:12:22,925 --> 01:12:24,695 That that that's what that 1435 01:12:23,715 --> 01:12:24,715 Friday. 1436 01:12:24,695 --> 01:12:30,257 is. I mean, all those years and years of Epstein mongering and, 1437 01:12:30,257 --> 01:12:32,888 you know, conspiracy discourse, 1438 01:12:32,888 --> 01:12:36,899 even when they ended up being right about the conspiracy in a way, 1439 01:12:36,899 --> 01:12:43,080 they still ended up not actually caring about the victims and the affiliation 1440 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,460 of the major political leaders. 1441 01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:46,631 That that just didn't care. Like I 1442 01:12:46,811 --> 01:12:48,432 I I do think that that matters. 1443 01:12:48,432 --> 01:12:51,775 I think, you know, we get a lot of listeners who I'm sure listen to a 1444 01:12:51,775 --> 01:12:55,017 lot of other podcasts, right? ~ podcast people like podcasts. 1445 01:12:55,017 --> 01:12:58,169 So I'm sure there are a lot of people listening who are conservative, 1446 01:12:58,169 --> 01:13:02,592 who listen to conservative podcasters who have been talking about Epstein 1447 01:13:02,592 --> 01:13:03,873

for years and years and years, 1448 01:13:03,873 --> 01:13:08,706 you know. And I I d I just wonder I just ask you to think about like 1449 01:13:08,706 --> 01:13:10,318 if they don't care about it anymore, 1450 01:13:10,318 --> 01:13:13,470 even with more evidence being out than ever before, 1451 01:13:13,470 --> 01:13:14,861 then did they ever care? 1452 01:13:15,011 --> 01:13:18,233 And were they not just riling you up to vote right? 1453 01:13:18,233 --> 01:13:23,197 Right. Like I mean, have respect for yourself and your own brain, 1454 01:13:23,197 --> 01:13:25,829 right? Have respect for your own brain. 1455 01:13:25,829 --> 01:13:29,022 That's what I I I I I think that's like a theme of this show. 1456 01:13:29,022 --> 01:13:31,434 And you might say, I have respect, 1457 01:13:31,434 --> 01:13:32,434 that's why I'm turning it off. 1458 01:13:32,324 --> 01:13:34,416 Fair enough. But but 1459 01:13:33,893 --> 01:13:34,893 Right. 1460 01:13:34,416 --> 01:13:38,039 yeah, like I just it's crazy. ~ some other things, 1461 01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:39,670 this news. Well, on that note, 1462 01:13:39,670 --> 01:13:44,063 House Judiciary Democrats released an Epstein report citing eleven women. 1463 01:13:44,213 --> 01:13:46,654 Five of them who alleged Trump assaulted them. 1464 01:13:46,654 --> 01:13:48,685 the White House has said that is not true. 1465 01:13:48,685 --> 01:13:51,145 But again, just no news really about that. 1466 01:13:51,145 --> 01:13:54,197 Not really playing a role. Just kind of interesting. 1467 01:13:54,197 --> 01:13:58,889 ~ Pete Heggseth he fired the joint staff's top planner, 1468 01:13:58,889 --> 01:14:01,130 Lieutenant General Brett Sylvia, 1469 01:14:01,130 --> 01:14:07,393 because he claims that Sylvia failed polygraphs and leaked classified information. 1470 01:14:07,393 --> 01:14:09,204 Other sources say it's not true. 1471 01:14:09,354 --> 01:14:11,697 I wanted to get your temperature on polygraphs in general. 1472 01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:15,948 You're a true crime guy. I kinda thought polygraphs were kind of dismissed 1473 01:14:15,948 --> 01:14:19,163 as kinda being bunk. Why are they so in the news again? 1474 01:14:19,163 --> 01:14:22,928 I feel like I've been hearing more about polygraphs than I have in a long time. 1475 01:14:22,584 --> 01:14:23,584 Yeah, 1476 01:14:23,184 --> 01:14:25,706 I I'm not a fan, but 1477 01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:26,159 Right? 1478 01:14:26,326 --> 01:14:32,249 and I think in terms of the courts they have been dismissed 1479 01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:35,071 for the most part. You can't use them as evidence. 1480 01:14:35,071 --> 01:14:37,002 I know they've been in the news. 1481 01:14:37,002 --> 01:14:39,753 Abdul had a good line, you know, 1482 01:14:39,753 --> 01:14:42,115 about a lie detector recently. 1483 01:14:42,115 --> 01:14:48,408 you know, saying I wish I could hook Trump up to a lie detector it was 1484 01:14:48,408 --> 01:14:51,300 in it was in response to the metal detector comment. 1485 01:14:50,946 --> 01:14:51,946 Yeah, yeah, 1486 01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:53,441 yeah. I w I wish I could get him to a lie detector. 1487 01:14:51,730 --> 01:14:53,551 And Abdul and Abdul was like, I 1488 01:14:53,551 --> 01:14:55,252 wish I could give him a lie detector. 1489 01:14:55,252 --> 01:15:00,085 Question number one, Epstein, which I thought was pr like it 1490 01:14:57,314 --> 01:14:59,602 Yeah ~ 1491 01:15:00,085 --> 01:15:06,920 was a great lie. ~ but yeah, these things should absolutely not be relied upon, 1492 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,432 especially when it comes to who is trustworthy within the Pentagon. 1493 01:15:10,582 --> 01:15:15,304 It's it's so it's really like we've gone back to the eighties. 1494 01:15:15,304 --> 01:15:16,304 Like 1495 01:15:15,708 --> 01:15:16,708 Right. 1496 01:15:16,975 --> 01:15:20,136 I feel like I'm watching an old documentary about, 1497 01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:22,878 you know, whatever. Like y you know what I'm saying? 1498 01:15:22,878 --> 01:15:27,770 Like just like stuff that is like so obviously outdated and 1499 01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:31,162 so obvious like not a thing. 1500 01:15:31,162 --> 01:15:33,583 Like, you know what I mean? That's worth like talking about anymore. 1501 01:15:33,583 --> 01:15:35,424 But la I wanted to close on this. 1502 01:15:35,574 --> 01:15:38,125 Abdul, who we love, I like I said earlier, 1503 01:15:38,125 --> 01:15:41,216 he was on Hassan Minaj's podcast this week, 1504 01:15:41,216 --> 01:15:46,619 and I thought his explanation of how Trump is an idiot 1505 01:15:46,769 --> 01:15:53,732 was the best and most concise slamming of exactly how I feel about Trump 1506 01:15:53,732 --> 01:15:58,644 and fans and these guys. I feel like he nailed it in such a perfect 1507 01:15:58,644 --> 01:16:03,567 and succinct way that a way I am simply roughly not able to do it so quickly. 1508 01:16:03,977 --> 01:16:05,608 Have you seen this clip going around? 1509 01:16:05,608 --> 01:16:07,800 It went around a little bit and 1510 01:16:07,603 --> 01:16:08,603 No. 1511 01:16:08,501 --> 01:16:13,754 it's just Abdul totally nailing exactly how I feel about Trump 1512 01:16:13,814 --> 01:16:17,857 and diagnosing the situation in a way that I think is completely right. 1513 01:16:17,857 --> 01:16:20,269 Let me just play this clip really quick before we get out of here 'cause 1514 01:16:20,269 --> 01:16:21,300 I just thought it was so good. 1515 01:16:21,375 --> 01:16:22,375 Here we go. Ready? 1516 01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:35,295 Right? I feel like that's exactly right. 1517 01:17:35,295 --> 01:17:39,552 It's just a s very succinct way of explaining like how this has happened. 1518 01:17:39,702 --> 01:17:44,596 A hundred percent. And it's so refreshing to just a Democrat with balls, 1519 01:17:44,596 --> 01:17:47,068 you know what I mean? It really 1520 01:17:45,564 --> 01:17:46,927 Totally, totally. 1521 01:17:47,068 --> 01:17:49,200 is what has been missing for ten years. 1522 01:17:49,586 --> 01:17:52,378 Just he's an idiot. He's just an absolute idiot. 1523 01:17:52,378 --> 01:17:54,439 I just don't think he's smart. 1524 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,500 Like like I don't like when people say Trump is really playing chess 1525 01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:01,062 and it's this actual th outrage machine. 1526 01:18:01,062 --> 01:18:04,694 I don't buy that whatsoever. I think he's an idiot and all he's good 1527 01:18:04,694 --> 01:18:06,385 at is getting attention. Period. 1528 01:18:06,385 --> 01:18:09,276 That's it. I I think Abdul's completely correct. 1529 01:18:09,276 --> 01:18:12,729 And yeah, I just I really, really hope Abdul wins. 1530 01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:16,801 Please God. He would be so nice to see him try it into the c he would really reek. 1531 01:18:17,005 --> 01:18:20,160 Wreck havoc there. I can see why they don't want him there actually. 1532 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,402 Like he'd be a real pain. 1533 01:18:21,552 --> 01:18:24,506 yeah. I it would be just amazing. 1534 01:18:24,506 --> 01:18:25,927 I would be thrilled 1535 01:18:25,026 --> 01:18:26,026 It w ~ 1536 01:18:25,927 --> 01:18:30,827 if he wins. It would be I would pay more attention to him in the center than 1537 01:18:30,827 --> 01:18:31,827 to anybody else. 1538 01:18:31,624 --> 01:18:33,275 Definitely. But all right, that's it. 1539 01:18:33,275 --> 01:18:37,536 Remember, live stream on eight o'clock Tuesday Eastern time. 1540 01:18:37,536 --> 01:18:40,167 You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, 1541 01:18:40,167 --> 01:18:42,839 X for the two people who probably watch there. 1542 01:18:42,839 --> 01:18:47,519 And potentially Twitch. So I'll I'll post about it on the Instagram 1543 01:18:47,519 --> 01:18:49,171 and Twitter and stuff. But yep, 1544 01:18:49,171 --> 01:18:52,030 live stream, baby. Be there or be square. 1545 01:18:52,461 --> 01:18:53,461 Let's go. 1546 01:18:52,971 --> 01:18:54,391 Let's go with it. See ya.