บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 034 - Lena Hedonista

Audience might like that shit. 00:04:17.259 --> 00:04:19.639 Well, my wife and I, or my ex -wife, excuse me, 00:04:19.660 --> 00:04:22.120 and I, we try to keep the kids off of social 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:24.819 media. True. We don't let the school put them 00:04:24.819 --> 00:04:26.860 on social media. I put them up a couple of times, 00:04:26.939 --> 00:04:29.420 but I generally don't do it because... Yeah. 00:04:30.500 --> 00:04:34.240 Weirdos up. Yeah, I trip out on big celebrities 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:35.819 that put their kids on social media. I'm like, 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:40.839 what? Are you just... Why? Yeah. Why do you want 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.199 everybody in the world to know what your kids 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:46.639 look like? I guess the Kardashians like made 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.560 it normal for like people to know every little 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:55.800 thing about, I guess like it just like with social 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.139 media in general, like it just seems to like 00:04:58.139 --> 00:05:00.759 back in the day, like if you had a favorite celebrity 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.420 actor, musician, whatever it was like, you had 00:05:03.420 --> 00:05:06.160 to go to magazines, watch some interviews, but 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.060 like now it's like, every little thing on this 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:12.660 person is online and just everybody's consumption. 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.879 Yeah. I have respect for the ones that don't 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:19.139 do that. It's like, yeah, you know, I mean, I'm 00:05:19.139 --> 00:05:21.899 talking like the major, major stars, like they, 00:05:21.939 --> 00:05:23.699 they don't, they don't need to do it. Right. 00:05:24.019 --> 00:05:26.740 Like Bobby De Niro, even though he sucks for 00:05:26.740 --> 00:05:28.620 most shit, I don't think he's on social media 00:05:28.620 --> 00:05:31.540 or I wouldn't get it. So he has a vaccine injured 00:05:31.540 --> 00:05:35.240 child, child vaccine, not COVID. And he was, 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:39.100 He's been vocal about it, but then he's gotten 00:05:39.100 --> 00:05:41.279 beaten down about it, too. So it's interesting 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.939 that he's so fucking Trump deranged. It's wild, 00:05:45.060 --> 00:05:48.339 man. He was on Bill Maher saying that if Trump 00:05:48.339 --> 00:05:49.939 gets elected, he's going to come after me. It's 00:05:49.939 --> 00:05:55.779 like, what are you talking about? Right. It's 00:05:55.779 --> 00:05:58.740 so fucking funny, man. Oh, guess who just texted 00:05:58.740 --> 00:06:03.819 me? Bobby, buddy. Anyway. Mr. Bobby, is he watching 00:06:03.819 --> 00:06:06.589 the show? Hey, Bobby. Yeah, I think he is. Hi, 00:06:06.790 --> 00:06:09.310 Bobby. Bobby's World. We're going to do it without 00:06:09.310 --> 00:06:14.069 you today. Send info. Oh, my God, this kid. I 00:06:14.069 --> 00:06:17.250 sent it to his Facebook. But, yeah, Bobby, don't 00:06:17.250 --> 00:06:18.990 worry. I'll send it to you now while we're live 00:06:18.990 --> 00:06:21.750 on the show, even though I already sent it to 00:06:21.750 --> 00:06:24.670 you. I don't have enough shit on our plate. Bobby! 00:06:25.470 --> 00:06:29.930 Holy test. Got to love that kid, because if not, 00:06:30.029 --> 00:06:32.129 I would not have to get a haircut, Chad. I would 00:06:32.129 --> 00:06:35.930 pull it all out. and uh when's the haircut coming 00:06:35.930 --> 00:06:39.389 man i know does that show you that like i'm just 00:06:39.389 --> 00:06:41.810 like so crazy busy that i can't even get a haircut 00:06:41.810 --> 00:06:43.670 oh is that what it is or are you like a chick 00:06:43.670 --> 00:06:46.709 and you're afraid to cut it off it's both how 00:06:46.709 --> 00:06:50.500 dare you call me out on this live I told you 00:06:50.500 --> 00:06:53.500 though, I've had dreams where I cut it off and 00:06:53.500 --> 00:06:55.899 then I wake up and I'm like, I check to see if 00:06:55.899 --> 00:06:57.860 it's there and I'm like upset that I had cut 00:06:57.860 --> 00:06:59.899 it off, but I'll get over it, dude. It's just, 00:06:59.959 --> 00:07:02.860 it's fucking too long. Two summers coming up, 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.439 going to be too hot. Right. I like some women 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:07.639 with short hair. Some of them look frigging hot 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:11.259 with short hair. Yeah. Some do, some don't, but 00:07:11.259 --> 00:07:13.660 it's interesting when you see it. Because to 00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:16.660 me, it's like they've cast off like social norms 00:07:16.660 --> 00:07:18.920 and like, fuck it. Like I'm just cutting my hair 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.100 short. And some of them are really beautiful 00:07:22.100 --> 00:07:25.060 with it, but this is my tea. Well, you know, 00:07:25.060 --> 00:07:26.540 it is, you're right about that. Some of them 00:07:26.540 --> 00:07:28.740 are, but it's like, they gotta be hot as fuck 00:07:28.740 --> 00:07:31.240 in the face to pull that off. You know, it's 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:35.120 like a chick who's a seven and then cuts her 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.279 hair probably can't pull it off. You're like, 00:07:37.339 --> 00:07:39.300 Oh shit, you just went down to a five lady. What'd 00:07:39.300 --> 00:07:42.560 you do? But a 10, a nine, you know, they do it. 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:44.779 And you're like, wow, this really accents her 00:07:44.779 --> 00:07:49.279 fucking eyes. And you know, There was a UFC fighter, 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:53.439 Rose Namajunas, or Namagunas, I think it's Namajunas, 00:07:53.500 --> 00:07:57.439 but she started off, she had long hair, beautiful 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.480 girl, and then just shaved it, and still gorgeous, 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:06.660 dude. Dude, if I was a woman UFC fighter, I'd 00:08:06.660 --> 00:08:08.879 shave all my hair off to fucking go fight, so 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.860 it wasn't something that was getting

in my way 00:08:10.860 --> 00:08:13.790 or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, because she was, I think 00:08:13.790 --> 00:08:15.329 that's what it was. She was like, I don't care 00:08:15.329 --> 00:08:17.089 about my looks or anything like that. It's like, 00:08:17.089 --> 00:08:19.629 this is what's more beneficial for me as a fighter. 00:08:19.750 --> 00:08:21.730 So she was like, boom, right away. Yeah, women 00:08:21.730 --> 00:08:23.430 fighters are interesting. That's an interesting 00:08:23.430 --> 00:08:27.089 breed of woman, man. Totally. In a good way, 00:08:27.170 --> 00:08:31.670 but like, talk about, you know, just, I mean, 00:08:31.689 --> 00:08:33.149 some of them go out there and get the shit kicked 00:08:33.149 --> 00:08:35.490 out of them. It's wild, man. Well, of course, 00:08:35.509 --> 00:08:38.009 now they're letting guys in, so it's fucking 00:08:38.009 --> 00:08:42.080 crazy. and you know it was crazy dude like when 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.899 the girls league first started off um you know 00:08:45.899 --> 00:08:48.919 uh coming out like ronda rousey was the big fighter 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.179 and she was like a big judo chick so it's like 00:08:51.179 --> 00:08:55.159 the fights weren't uh like too violent or or 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:58.340 like bloody but now some of these fights are 00:08:58.340 --> 00:09:01.600 like more bloody than the guys fights like they're 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.799 going at it yeah it's cool speaking of that you 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:06.879 know biden just came out and they're trying to 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:11.460 change title nine to allow trans kids to participate 00:09:11.460 --> 00:09:15.340 in sports like now if your school if your school 00:09:15.340 --> 00:09:19.019 decides that they don't want trans kids trans 00:09:19.019 --> 00:09:24.500 women men to participate in a sport right the 00:09:24.500 --> 00:09:28.519 federal government will sue the school so they 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.460 have they have completely just they're not protecting 00:09:31.460 --> 00:09:34.899 women at all anymore it's just wild to me it's 00:09:34.899 --> 00:09:38.580 insane I'm going to guess, Chad, that this is 00:09:38.580 --> 00:09:43.559 why the Lord didn't allow me to have kids as 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:47.100 of yet. Because if this was going on and I had 00:09:47.100 --> 00:09:50.659 to deal with it, I would be in jail for fucking 00:09:50.659 --> 00:09:54.279 murder for fucking a biological male fighting 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:57.600 my little daughter. Because I'm hoping my girls 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.220 have not run into it yet. They're 10. So thank 00:10:00.220 --> 00:10:03.840 the nothing wacky like that's happened. And when 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.490 I say wacky, I mean. kids you know trans kids 00:10:07.490 --> 00:10:10.870 or like it's just it's just like if your kid 00:10:10.870 --> 00:10:15.070 is effeminate or if the boy is effeminate and 00:10:15.070 --> 00:10:18.210 thinks thinks he's a girl you know let him dress 00:10:18.210 --> 00:10:20.710 as a girl but don't start giving hormones and 00:10:20.710 --> 00:10:24.289 fucking permanently altering his body until he's 00:10:24.289 --> 00:10:28.149 no longer able to reproduce and when he becomes 00:10:28.149 --> 00:10:31.370 an adult he will probably fucking regret that 00:10:31.370 --> 00:10:35.450 yeah and it's fucked up And there's no other 00:10:35.450 --> 00:10:37.190 country now in the world that's doing this. The 00:10:37.190 --> 00:10:39.730 United States is the last one. Bill Maher pointed 00:10:39.730 --> 00:10:41.629 this out. He's like, everyone wants to follow 00:10:41.629 --> 00:10:43.710 Europe and do what they're doing. It's like all 00:10:43.710 --> 00:10:47.289 the liberals he's talking about. Europe's like, 00:10:47.450 --> 00:10:49.049 fuck no, we're not doing this to kids. Are you 00:10:49.049 --> 00:10:53.429 crazy? This is insane. To transition kids, permanently 00:10:53.429 --> 00:10:56.110 alter their bodies, cut off their boobs or their 00:10:56.110 --> 00:10:59.649 dick or whatever they're doing. They're puberty 00:10:59.649 --> 00:11:02.669 blockers. They are basically castrating these 00:11:02.669 --> 00:11:06.419 people. and and making them sterile how do you 00:11:06.419 --> 00:11:09.080 think that's going to work out in life form you 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.259 know many before they're 18 to even make a decision 00:11:11.259 --> 00:11:15.279 about it right you can't drink can't smoke can't 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.919 get a tattoo but you can change your gender what 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.419 the fuck what how are we living through this 00:11:20.419 --> 00:11:24.179 insanity it's just it's it's it's it's wild man 00:11:24.179 --> 00:11:28.320 it's wild what's going on in this fucking world 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.519 Yeah, it's insane. Like, do you know how many 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.500 bad outfit -like style choices I had as a kid 00:11:35.500 --> 00:11:37.519 when I was able to start picking out my clothes 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.399 and stuff? Right. Yeah. You know, thank God I 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.139 didn't have all this shit in my brain. Like, 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:44.700 oh, well, maybe you're a girl and you want to 00:11:44.700 --> 00:11:47.120 cut off your dick because you're so easily led 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.379 into, like, you know, I saw other people wearing 00:11:49.379 --> 00:11:51.779 these stupid styles. Let me try it out. You know 00:11:51.779 --> 00:11:53.779 what I'm saying? And it's being done by adults. 00:11:53.980 --> 00:11:58.529 We should know better. Yeah. uh yeah it's wow 00:11:58.529 --> 00:12:01.789 it's i mean and as i always say trans people 00:12:01.789 --> 00:12:03.889 are great do your thing i have no problem with 00:12:03.889 --> 00:12:06.610 you 18 years old go do whatever the you want 00:12:06.610 --> 00:12:09.409 to your body great absolutely dress how you want

00:12:09.409 --> 00:12:13.429 love who you want bam bam bam just leave the 00:12:13.429 --> 00:12:17.549 kids alone bill maher he's he's i mean bill maher 00:12:17.549 --> 00:12:20.450 it's funny i keep quoting him because it's wild 00:12:20.450 --> 00:12:23.710 that he is kind of awake he's sort of awake on 00:12:23.710 --> 00:12:25.370 that many things but he was talking about how 00:12:25.370 --> 00:12:31.490 uh drag queen story hour for kids is not appropriate. 00:12:31.690 --> 00:12:33.809 And he doesn't even have kids. He's like, why 00:12:33.809 --> 00:12:37.029 is a five -year -old tipping a man dressed as 00:12:37.029 --> 00:12:38.950 a woman in front of a sign that says it's not 00:12:38.950 --> 00:12:46.190 going to lick itself? Right. Hey now. I cannot 00:12:46.190 --> 00:12:48.769 hear you. You might have to click the unmute 00:12:48.769 --> 00:12:52.149 button. Is it Bluetooth or something? I know 00:12:52.149 --> 00:12:54.169 you're on your phone. Yeah. Keep it going. We'll 00:12:54.169 --> 00:12:56.830 keep it talking. Oh, there you go. It says iPhone 00:12:56.830 --> 00:12:59.309 connecting to audio. So for the audience out 00:12:59.309 --> 00:13:04.210 there, this is Lina Hidenista, an OnlyFans model 00:13:04.210 --> 00:13:08.990 and social media influencer. She's our guest 00:13:08.990 --> 00:13:13.169 now, and she only has about 20 minutes. So if 00:13:13.169 --> 00:13:15.509 you see her, if we have to cut this short, you'll 00:13:15.509 --> 00:13:18.330 know why. Oh, look who's here, Chad. Bobby's 00:13:18.330 --> 00:13:22.750 also now. Bobby. It's coming. Bobby. Just in 00:13:22.750 --> 00:13:24.789 time for Lina, Bobby. Is that how it's working? 00:13:25.339 --> 00:13:29.299 Yep. When it rains, it pours. Lena, can you hear 00:13:29.299 --> 00:13:37.100 me? Maybe it's your iPhone. It would have been 00:13:37.100 --> 00:13:39.179 gracious too without technical difficulties, 00:13:39.259 --> 00:13:42.139 right, Chad? That's right. Hello? What's up, 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.539 Bobby? Please mute yourself. We're live, dude. 00:13:44.620 --> 00:13:47.840 You should know this by now. All right. Love 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:52.019 that. Thank you. Love you, Bobby. Love you, Bobby, 00:13:52.059 --> 00:13:56.230 so much. uh let me see if i could like control 00:13:56.230 --> 00:14:02.070 her thing so uh ask to start video and then uh 00:14:02.070 --> 00:14:06.470 there's that but yeah so lena i'm not like do 00:14:06.470 --> 00:14:08.830 you have us on through bluetooth in your car 00:14:08.830 --> 00:14:11.750 uh is it just through your phone because it's 00:14:11.750 --> 00:14:16.769 not showing me a uh a yes now i can oh there 00:14:16.769 --> 00:14:21.210 we go guys, and then they wouldn't give me audio. 00:14:21.309 --> 00:14:25.269 I'm so sorry. I'm sorry about that. I'll let 00:14:25.269 --> 00:14:27.669 you take care of that later if you know what 00:14:27.669 --> 00:14:31.990 I mean. So I was letting the audience know, Lena, 00:14:31.990 --> 00:14:34.610 that you had like 20 minutes. I don't know what 00:14:34.610 --> 00:14:36.409 this put us at, so if you need to jet because 00:14:36.409 --> 00:14:37.870 you're in the middle of a shoot, we'll understand. 00:14:37.889 --> 00:14:40.409 We can do the 20. We're all right. All righty. 00:14:41.210 --> 00:14:43.610 So what up, girl? That's Chad. I'm sure you know. 00:14:44.710 --> 00:14:48.149 Nice to meet you, Lena. How are you? Hi. Nice 00:14:48.149 --> 00:14:51.799 to see you. So we had a question for you. One, 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.539 do you want to let the audience know your OnlyFans 00:14:55.539 --> 00:14:58.940 page so they can go check you out? Yeah, sure. 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:03.259 I mean, the more the merrier. Lena Hedonista, 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.080 H -E -D -O -N -I -S -T -A. Okay, good. I spelled 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.200 it right. It's just me. It's just me. I'm a one 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:15.679 -woman band. Oh. We have it listed good in our 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:19.899 title then. Lena, I was talking to people. They 00:15:19.899 --> 00:15:22.080 kind of were wondering, like, what goes on on 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.860 your OnlyFans channel? Not on OnlyFans in general, 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:29.120 but are you banging people? Are you doing solo 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:33.460 shows? What do we do on there? It's definitely 00:15:33.460 --> 00:15:37.019 a one -woman band, so it's just me. Picture bundles, 00:15:37.019 --> 00:15:42.960 videos of me either by myself or with silicone 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.240 co -stars, if you will. I also like to do... 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.059 cosplay um i wish i could do more of it i'm i'm 00:15:50.059 --> 00:15:51.860 trying to do more i'm actually trying to transition 00:15:51.860 --> 00:15:54.620 my page into a vip and just let it all hang out 00:15:54.620 --> 00:15:57.279 charge a little bit more months but um i've done 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:01.440 like naughty maid bad secretary barbie gone wild 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:05.919 yeah i like cosplay i like to dress up i'm i 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.519 was born on halloween so you know oh nice do 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:11.679 you do like full wigs and all that stuff okay 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.509 so I got razed so hard for this, but I did it 00:16:15.509 --> 00:16:17.710 on purpose. I bought this cheap blonde Amazon 00:16:17.710 --> 00:16:19.769 wig for Barbie gone wild. Cause it was supposed 00:16:19.769 --> 00:16:21.929 to be like, and I'm allowed to say this. I grew 00:16:21.929 --> 00:16:25.149 up in a trailer. So nobody gets after, um, trailer 00:16:25.149 --> 00:16:28.309 trash Barbie basically. So I got this really 00:16:28.309 --> 00:16:32.850 gaudy cheap, like $15. Looks like a dead animal. 00:16:33.129 --> 00:16:35.429 Like somebody died a dead animal, like on top 00:16:35.429 --> 00:16:37.590 of my head and nobody would let me live it down. 00:16:37.649 --> 00:16:40.210 But I

was like, people it's called comedy. Look 00:16:40.210 --> 00:16:44.320 it up. Yes. Exactly. If anybody wants to buy 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:46.259 me an expensive wig, they can buy me, like, a 00:16:46.259 --> 00:16:48.700 $200 wig. I'm good. You can buy it for me anytime. 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.440 Some of them are very expensive. What do they 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.659 call the gentlemen that take care of the ladies 00:16:55.659 --> 00:16:58.340 like that? And sugar daddies. Sugar daddies, 00:16:58.340 --> 00:17:02.159 if you're out there. Well, I mean, I'm ready 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.000 to start polling and, like, asking people what 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:06.680 kind of new toys they want me to get. My toys 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.900 died. oh my goodness my co -stars shit the bed 00:17:09.900 --> 00:17:13.559 they died so i need to get new co -stars and 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:16.559 so i'm going to be putting up a post of my potential 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.559 co -stars if you will and i'm gonna ask anybody 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:21.579 like to vote on which one is tipped by which 00:17:21.579 --> 00:17:25.339 one you want me to get and then hold that whole 00:17:25.339 --> 00:17:27.099 pool of money i'll use to get whatever one gets 00:17:27.099 --> 00:17:30.220 the most now your co -stars that died do they 00:17:30.220 --> 00:17:32.940 just need new batteries or is it like you wore 00:17:32.940 --> 00:17:35.940 the fucking motor out because uh i mean And I 00:17:35.940 --> 00:17:38.119 think I wore them puppies out. I don't know. 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.400 There was a lot of hard work, okay? I'm not gonna 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:43.220 lie. Hardest working bitch in the room. HBIC, 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:45.160 head, bitch, and turd. I was gonna say, you're 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.640 like a long -term tester for the toys, huh? Yeah, 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.039 probably, because I did it so... I only had the 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:56.779 OnlyFans since last August. And it was like... 00:17:57.740 --> 00:17:59.380 no frame of reference some of these things you 00:17:59.380 --> 00:18:01.519 really don't have the foresight for you have 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:05.019 to learn as you go along and i learned that the 00:18:05.019 --> 00:18:07.759 half -life of toys on amazon is really not that 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.500 long because it is a rechargeable one it's like 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:12.420 the wireless where you plug it where it's got 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:15.339 like the little magnetic and um and honestly 00:18:15.339 --> 00:18:18.000 they just don't live up to their expectations 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.240 they can't hang with me okay They can't hang 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.240 with your stuff. They don't last, man. They're 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:26.660 out. They're passe. I need new co -stars. Is 00:18:26.660 --> 00:18:29.019 there like a professional band, a brand, like 00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:32.039 a pro series for these things? I mean, maybe, 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.339 but I think I was like dipping my toe in the 00:18:34.339 --> 00:18:37.579 OnlyFans pool. And so up front, there just wasn't 00:18:37.579 --> 00:18:40.859 this huge unmasked investment. As I went along 00:18:40.859 --> 00:18:42.599 and I figured out the things that I wanted and 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.519 needed. It's like creating a grocery list of 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.079 naughty shit. And that's what I do. I go, look, 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.440 okay, I need a tripod. I just got like two wireless 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:52.279 mics I haven't tried out because I'm like a techno 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.799 tard. But like you just start thinking of all 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:56.460 these things that you need and like co -stars, 00:18:56.460 --> 00:18:59.420 which is just not in the forefront of my mind. 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.400 And then I'm like, bitch, what are you going 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:06.460 to do on this page? It's you. I'm not very creative. 00:19:07.109 --> 00:19:09.529 It sounds like you're evolving the OnlyFans from 00:19:09.529 --> 00:19:11.910 how you started it to kind of how you're working 00:19:11.910 --> 00:19:14.369 it, which is kind of cool. There's a metamorphosis. 00:19:14.549 --> 00:19:17.450 Yes, there is a metamorphosis for sure. Like 00:19:17.450 --> 00:19:20.470 anything. Do you have a manager or anything? 00:19:20.569 --> 00:19:23.210 Because I've heard some girls, like maybe the 00:19:23.210 --> 00:19:26.269 bigger ones, like have managers and do all the 00:19:26.269 --> 00:19:29.680 posts for them and stuff. make the content. I 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:31.920 edit the content. I do all of the posts. I answer 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.240 everything. If you're talking to me, you're talking 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.160 to me. You're not talking to somebody on behalf 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.599 of me. You're actually talking to Lena. I make 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.700 it very personal, but it is a lot of work. It's 00:19:42.700 --> 00:19:45.319 a lot. And then I think some of those women maybe 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.339 catch a break mentally. from not dealing with, 00:19:48.460 --> 00:19:50.339 you know, it's like almost like customer service. 00:19:50.380 --> 00:19:52.599 So I work in customer service. So you're dealing 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:54.099 with people, you have like the good, the bad, 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:56.299 the ugly, like the best of people, the worst 00:19:56.299 --> 00:20:01.319 and the crazy. So I get all of it. What's the, 00:20:01.460 --> 00:20:04.180 have any wacky fans, I guess they would call 00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:06.019 them on only fans. Like, is there like a wacky, 00:20:06.019 --> 00:20:07.980 I mean, don't mention names or anything, but 00:20:07.980 --> 00:20:10.839 I would never give anybody away because different 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.720 strokes for different folks. And I respect people's

00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.779 privacy and right to entertainment. Good to know 00:20:15.779 --> 00:20:17.720 for what I'm on here. I'm a professional, okay? 00:20:18.299 --> 00:20:21.660 But I will say, if you want to know, for example, 00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:24.779 some of the more off -the -chart, outlier kind 00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:27.200 of things, there is one person that comes to 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.819 mind, and he got banned from OnlyFans. Not me. 00:20:31.579 --> 00:20:35.000 He was acting like really out of pocket, according 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.200 to OnlyFans, which I think is a little tyrannical. 00:20:37.380 --> 00:20:39.900 They literally watch all your stuff, so I'm like 00:20:39.900 --> 00:20:44.859 on parade. But this guy, he basically... His 00:20:44.859 --> 00:20:47.960 kink was you and this is not like this person 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:49.559 out of the ordinary But some of the stuff he 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:51.900 did was a little out there for me. Anyway, my 00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:54.819 taste. Um, he liked to be demeaned He liked to 00:20:54.819 --> 00:20:56.819 be put down and I consider myself a nice person 00:20:56.819 --> 00:20:59.579 but I could be a bitch if I have to be and if 00:20:59.579 --> 00:21:02.759 it's getting somebody in the mood then I'm I'm 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:05.059 here to support you, you know within reason so 00:21:05.059 --> 00:21:09.420 he wanted me to insult him he would Send me videos 00:21:09.420 --> 00:21:11.779 of him, and I'm like, okay, I can't sit around 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:13.500 just watching you jerk your gherkin. You have 00:21:13.500 --> 00:21:16.500 to tip. I can't sit here and watch your homemade 00:21:16.500 --> 00:21:20.539 porn all day. I'm one person with a finite amount 00:21:20.539 --> 00:21:23.180 of time. Anyway, he would tip me very well. I 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:25.480 have nothing bad to say about him. He never disrespected 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:28.599 me. He used to call me goddess, and he would 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:31.700 be like, oh, goddess, please look at this video 00:21:31.700 --> 00:21:35.019 of me. tip me and I would watch the video and 00:21:35.019 --> 00:21:37.200 then he would tip me again to make my own video 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.000 back maybe like five minutes and basically like 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:41.799 I love comedy I want to do stand -up like John 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:43.480 knows like I would roast the shit out of them 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:46.480 and and it was never from a bad place but it 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:49.279 was definitely super rotten and funny and he 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:50.859 just fucking loved it and he ate it with his 00:21:50.859 --> 00:21:52.539 phone but some of the things he would he would 00:21:52.539 --> 00:21:55.539 show me um I don't know how graphic I can get 00:21:55.539 --> 00:21:59.319 here but like he would his dick in a toilet seat 00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:02.569 Wow, it was hard to watch. Okay, it was just 00:22:02.569 --> 00:22:05.710 violent and that's what I was like If I had a 00:22:05.710 --> 00:22:08.309 day, I just imagine my fit being slammed. I'm 00:22:08.309 --> 00:22:09.609 like, I don't want to go for a mammogram I'm 00:22:09.609 --> 00:22:11.309 like, no, no boo boo. What are you doing? But 00:22:11.309 --> 00:22:14.029 that was the thing then he sent me a video of 00:22:14.029 --> 00:22:16.809 someone shoving and I'm OCD as fuck I don't even 00:22:16.809 --> 00:22:19.269 wear shoes in my house. He sent me a video someone 00:22:19.269 --> 00:22:23.190 shoving a shoe smearing it all over his face 00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:26.069 and it triggered my OCD so badly I had to smoke 00:22:26.069 --> 00:22:30.809 my THC vape. I was so neurotic because I'm so 00:22:30.809 --> 00:22:33.990 neat and clean and then the video back just flowed 00:22:33.990 --> 00:22:36.750 like lava because I had a lot of shit to say 00:22:36.750 --> 00:22:41.230 about how repulsed I legitimately was. Chad, 00:22:41.309 --> 00:22:44.150 what do you chalk that dude's behavior up to? 00:22:44.289 --> 00:22:48.930 My dick hurts if you fucking blow it on the window. 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:54.099 Like, for him. They hurt. Well, I mean, have 00:22:54.099 --> 00:22:56.619 you ever seen sounding where they put metal rods 00:22:56.619 --> 00:22:59.180 in their dicks? In the pee holes? That's a thing. 00:22:59.339 --> 00:23:00.819 Like, I don't fucking understand it. I mean, 00:23:00.819 --> 00:23:03.240 I know people get suspended from hooks and stuff. 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:05.700 Like, they're a piece of fucking meat. Yeah, 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.839 I don't know what that is. You know in the universe, 00:23:08.980 --> 00:23:11.279 if it could be thought of, that some crazy motherfucker 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.819 has done it. So I fully believe, full circle, 00:23:14.940 --> 00:23:17.019 that there's a guy out there who hangs from his 00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:20.309 penis. Find the lie. Oh, I would probably venture 00:23:20.309 --> 00:23:24.410 to say that. Yeah. It's like Murphy's Law. I 00:23:24.410 --> 00:23:27.630 don't care to see it, but I'm telling you, that 00:23:27.630 --> 00:23:29.509 guy's out there. Before you got into this, Lena, 00:23:29.529 --> 00:23:31.269 I was going to make a joke, like saying to you, 00:23:31.289 --> 00:23:33.569 like, oh, can you, like, come kick me in my balls, 00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:35.170 like, you know, as a joke. And then you got into 00:23:35.170 --> 00:23:36.490 this, I'm like, my balls. I'm sure there are 00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:38.970 dudes that like that, too. So I consider what 00:23:38.970 --> 00:23:41.930 that guy wanted the online version of a dominatrix. 00:23:42.849 --> 00:23:45.049 Yeah. Oh, absolutely, yes. He wanted to be dominated, 00:23:45.089 --> 00:23:49.240 demeaned, belittled, embarrassed. his mother 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:53.440 whatever gets your rocks off man yeah his mother

00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:55.779 must have not showed him love or fucking something 00:23:55.779 --> 00:23:59.319 i mean you know i as an empath i try not to get 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:01.920 into the psychology of it because then you really 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.099 go down a rabbit hole i don't need to know why 00:24:04.099 --> 00:24:07.839 you're a fucking crazy person in bed i only need 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.160 to know what you like within my boundaries to 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.599 Give it to you. I aim to please, but I always 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.079 maintain that sense of a boundary. I'm never, 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.319 I'm never going to not be me. Like I think some 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.319 people may be where they kind of go down the 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.960 rabbit hole too far is they start selling pieces 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.759 of their consciousness or their comfortability, 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:28.319 like their boundaries for the almighty dollar. 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.140 And it's just, I'll put it this way. Nothing 00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:33.680 I do in my video is anything I wouldn't be into 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:38.589 in real life. So, like, there's not, I say, like, 00:24:38.650 --> 00:24:39.869 I would joke around, there's not enough money 00:24:39.869 --> 00:24:41.329 for me to stick anything up my ass. You're on 00:24:41.329 --> 00:24:47.849 the wrong. Sure. So, Bobby coming in fucked her 00:24:47.849 --> 00:24:53.789 up. But, Bobby, stop fucking around, dude. Sorry, 00:24:53.809 --> 00:24:56.450 Lena, let me see. If you could start your video 00:24:56.450 --> 00:24:59.549 again or something, because you're frozen on 00:24:59.549 --> 00:25:01.890 our screen as we were getting to good parts here. 00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.589 I don't know if you're in a bad. or if that was 00:25:06.589 --> 00:25:08.369 Bobby coming in that did that. I'm going to blame 00:25:08.369 --> 00:25:11.109 Bobby, Chad. You know, I think that's what we 00:25:11.109 --> 00:25:15.150 got to do here. That's what we do. Yeah. I'm 00:25:15.150 --> 00:25:17.029 going to try and stop your video and see if you 00:25:17.029 --> 00:25:20.990 can restart it. So don't bear with us, please, 00:25:21.069 --> 00:25:23.750 audience out there. As we're getting to the fun 00:25:23.750 --> 00:25:26.250 stuff, of course. I was going to say, like, a 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:29.170 lot of very successful and very powerful men 00:25:29.170 --> 00:25:32.029 like to be dominated by women. Right. They will 00:25:32.029 --> 00:25:35.740 seek out dominatrixes and, like, you know. because 00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:38.039 they don't have that in their life. No one's 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.839 telling them what to do, basically. That I could 00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:44.779 get, but slamming your dick in the toilet, I 00:25:44.779 --> 00:25:48.680 don't understand. It's fucking wild. Yes, she's 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.640 back. Yeah, the slamming

your dick in the toilet 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:56.099 is wild. A dirty shoe on your face is wild. Did 00:25:56.099 --> 00:25:57.539 you ever hear that guy that's on Howard Stern? 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.279 He likes women to puke on him? Yes, Jeff the 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:06.369 Vulture. So, Lena, I'm going on your OnlyFans. 00:26:06.390 --> 00:26:08.490 Chad, we're going to, so, I mean, we might scrap 00:26:08.490 --> 00:26:10.990 this whole The Gracious 2 thing and do The Gracious 00:26:10.990 --> 00:26:15.230 OnlyFans, and I can't believe they get access 00:26:15.230 --> 00:26:18.490 to all her content, the owners of that, and, 00:26:18.509 --> 00:26:20.609 you know, could do that. Like, that seems like 00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:22.549 they shouldn't be able to look at all that, you 00:26:22.549 --> 00:26:25.089 know? Well, I think they monitor it to see, I 00:26:25.089 --> 00:26:26.970 guess, because there are some kind of standards 00:26:26.970 --> 00:26:29.890 on OnlyFans. We can't hear Lena right now, I 00:26:29.890 --> 00:26:34.140 don't think. No, Lena, can you hear us? Lena, 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:38.559 Lena, Bobina, Banana, Fana, Fofina. Me, Ma, Momina. 00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:44.380 La, la, la, la, Lena. Yeah, no problem. Take 00:26:44.380 --> 00:26:48.599 your time. Take your time. So yeah, normally 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:50.039 she would have been, for the audience, so they 00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.619 know, she would have been set up for this like 00:26:52.619 --> 00:26:55.039 differently, like in her home setup, but she's 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.599 out doing a shoot. So that's why she had to come 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.740 to us on an iPhone. And I figured. Better to 00:27:00.740 --> 00:27:04.299 have this than to not have her on at all because 00:27:04.299 --> 00:27:07.259 we're interested in OnlyFans models and social 00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:11.579 media influencers and all that jazz. Can you 00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:19.480 hear us, Lena? Technical difficulties. Yeah. 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.180 What do you know? Can you hear us? Can you talk? 00:27:25.059 --> 00:27:29.240 Lena? Is this a fake video? Now somebody else 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.099 is... coming into this room is this bobby again 00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:34.859 like from a different now it's like i'm getting 00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:37.359 numbers i'm just gonna admit it and see what's 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.799 going on this show is as it is already so is 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.480 that you lena can we can you can we hear you 00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:48.559 no he can't can't hear dang it oh so i wonder 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.220 who this is chet some i'm gonna let this person 00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:53.640 in because the only person i've sent this link 00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.960 to is um is hey lena i think we can hear you 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.640 now So my phone overheated sitting in the window. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:06.759 Oh, my gosh. I'm trying to get this. Oh, my God. 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.119 Why is it asking me to leave the meeting? Why 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:10.960 is life so hard today? I'm on the struggle bus. 00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:13.160 Hold on a second here. I'm going to ask you to 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.519 start the video. I think what happened here, 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.099 Lena, is your audio is coming through on a phone 00:28:18.099 --> 00:28:20.500 number and your video is coming through on an 00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:25.740 iPhone. So we're good now. Okay. Oh, my God. 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.460 It's cutting out. Can you see me? Yes, we can 00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:33.220 see you. So my phone was sitting in the window 00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:36.779 and the sun was shining on its back of the back 00:28:36.779 --> 00:28:38.900 of the phone and it just hit the bed. It was 00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:42.579 like too hot. Sorry about that. That's alright. 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:48.000 iPhones do it. I love that you're in a car sweating 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.819 for us and you didn't turn on the air and everything. 00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:53.039 Thank you for that. We feel... I didn't originally, 00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:56.059 but now I have the fucking air on because the 00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:58.440 phone was... Everything just got so hot. It's 00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.619 just me, boo -boo. Hey, hey. Hey, now. Everything 00:29:01.619 --> 00:29:04.119 got so hot in here. I was like, what the fuck? 00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:07.240 The hotness is emanating from you. Sorry. I literally 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.359 had to blast my air conditioning and put my phone 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.559 up against it. So it's... Well, Lena, let's get 00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.480 serious stuff here. I don't know if you know 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.759 this, but Chad and I are newly, well, I'm really 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.000 newly, but Chad's a single guy as well. And we're 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.279 down to hang out with OnlyFans ladies. So if 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.440 you want to get some friends together and let 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.480 them hang out with a rock star and a lonely old 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:38.000 me. Lonely old me. Got it. I mean, if I had some 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.380 OnlyFans friends, I have a couple friends, but 00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:43.609 they're not. I'm the only one. How cool. I'm 00:29:43.609 --> 00:29:46.589 the only crazy one with an OS. So like, you know. 00:29:46.769 --> 00:29:48.769 Oh, that was a question I wanted to ask for you, 00:29:48.789 --> 00:29:52.130 Lainey. Like, do you promote your OnlyFans page 00:29:52.130 --> 00:29:55.130 to like people you grew up with and friends like 00:29:55.130 --> 00:29:57.190 that? Or like, are you trying to steer away from 00:29:57.190 --> 00:30:01.730 like friends and family knowing about it? I don't 00:30:01.730 --> 00:30:04.109 hide my life. I made it a point. I told myself

00:30:04.109 --> 00:30:06.609 from the very beginning that when I do a shit, 00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:09.029 I own it and I'm not going to hide my life for 00:30:09.029 --> 00:30:14.880 anybody. I'm a very open, comfortable with myself 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.019 kind of person. If I have to hide myself, I'm 00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:20.720 not going to do something. But that does bring 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.480 up an interesting point. So I have a Facebook. 00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:25.339 It's not my original Facebook. I call it like 00:30:25.339 --> 00:30:28.059 my burner or my page. And everyone was like, 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:30.940 don't use Facebook. Well, guess what? A huge 00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:34.180 chunk of business came from Facebook. So fuck 00:30:34.180 --> 00:30:37.480 that terrible advice. Second of all. I did have 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.420 that hiccup point in the beginning where everybody, 00:30:39.579 --> 00:30:42.220 my name was in everyone's mouth. And I was like 00:30:42.220 --> 00:30:44.660 the Hester Prynne with the scarlet letter. And 00:30:44.660 --> 00:30:47.460 I was like, yo, fuck you guys. Don't look. Know 00:30:47.460 --> 00:30:50.519 what I am. I'm a grown adult. My mother has passed 00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.400 away. I have no children, no spouse. I do what 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.140 the fuck I want to do when I want to do it. So 00:30:57.140 --> 00:30:59.079 the way I said to people was, if you want me 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.400 to block you, I'll block you. If you don't want 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:06.039 to look, don't look. Like, look or don't. So 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.099 there are some people, though, that just could 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:11.019 not fucking help themselves. And they just immediately 00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:12.940 got blocked. There was no more conversating. 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:16.180 There was no more, hey, like, I don't like what 00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:18.920 you're doing. It was just goodbye. You're the 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.000 weakest link. And they're gone. So I don't generally 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.880 invite and want to tell everybody that I know 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.480 about it. But I guess to clarify, I don't hide 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:33.799 a thing about myself. I guess what I was asking 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.900 is because, again, so I've never been on OnlyFans 00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:40.420 to check it out, but I would if, like, I knew 00:31:40.420 --> 00:31:42.660 somebody I went to high school with was, like, 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.500 on OnlyFans. Like, I think I would go on and 00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:47.380 subscribe to her channel and see, like, what 00:31:47.380 --> 00:31:50.000 was doing. So I have this suspicion that there 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.720 are people that, and I'm sorry, my face is so 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.799 red today, this fucking heat. I do have suspicion. 00:31:57.690 --> 00:32:00.450 thank you i do have suspicion that there are 00:32:00.450 --> 00:32:02.049 some people on there that i don't really know 00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:04.589 whom they are not everybody will put their name 00:32:04.589 --> 00:32:07.589 it might be like whatever character like string 00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:10.130 of characters that only fans has assigned and 00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:12.460 then some people do nicknames Some people put 00:32:12.460 --> 00:32:15.380 their name, which I'm blown the fuck away. I'm 00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:17.980 sorry. Like, if I had an OnlyFans, like, on the 00:32:17.980 --> 00:32:20.819 other end, I'd have some funny, stupid name. 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.720 I don't think I'd be having my first, middle, 00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:24.819 last name. Like, why don't you just put your 00:32:24.819 --> 00:32:26.680 date of birth, your social security number? Like, 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.339 shit. Yeah, that's pretty wild. But there are 00:32:29.339 --> 00:32:32.839 some people that I, okay. This is the cringiest 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.259 one for me. Uh -oh. Because this is somebody 00:32:35.259 --> 00:32:39.980 that's, like, a family friend. He doesn't live 00:32:39.980 --> 00:32:42.259 here anymore. It was my old chiropractor for 00:32:42.259 --> 00:32:46.599 like 20 years. And super supportive of what I'm 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.680 doing. He's moved out of state, but he still 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:51.500 sees me on social media and he'll text me, ask 00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:54.279 how I'm doing. This is like when my neck got 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.039 messed up, like the first person that was able 00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.299 to help me. So he became like a family friend. 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:03.400 And it's very weird. It's very weird for me. 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.059 I appreciate the support, but it is very strange 00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:11.150 for me. To have someone like that, that has known 00:33:11.150 --> 00:33:16.230 me so long. All of my shit. And getting feedback. 00:33:16.589 --> 00:33:19.450 Getting feedback. I'm putting two and two together. 00:33:19.569 --> 00:33:22.109 You go in for a back crack. Then this guy goes 00:33:22.109 --> 00:33:24.630 on your OnlyFans account and starts slamming 00:33:24.630 --> 00:33:26.470 his dick in the toilet and putting the shoe on 00:33:26.470 --> 00:33:29.829 his face. I got it. I know what it is. You know, 00:33:29.849 --> 00:33:31.930 it's like, who is the bad man? I've never seen 00:33:31.930 --> 00:33:35.029 the two in the same room. That's right. Right. 00:33:35.390 --> 00:33:38.839 I love it. I don't know, man. There's this video 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.920 going around of an Australian OnlyFans chick 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:42.839 and she was talking about how she figured out 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.759 that her stepdad was watching her and tipping 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:53.119 her and shit. That's a wrap for me, bro. That's 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.700 a no for me, dog.

That's a no for me. What a 00:33:56.700 --> 00:34:00.819 sort of father, man. He's just supporting his 00:34:00.819 --> 00:34:05.980 stepdaughter. That really is... imitating art, 00:34:06.059 --> 00:34:08.179 when you think about it, it's like Pornhub in 00:34:08.179 --> 00:34:12.440 real life. Yeah. I feel like your stepdad going 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.360 into a strip club, seeing his daughter on there, 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.340 and then fucking throwing dollar bills at her. 00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:23.800 Come on, dude. You're fucking weird. That's a 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.940 no for me, dog. Better her than me, man. Better 00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:30.019 her than me, because I would be very tactful, 00:34:30.059 --> 00:34:32.280 but I would be like, I don't... I can't have 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.840 you there. You got to go, bro. You got to go. 00:34:35.219 --> 00:34:37.880 The end of the story was that she wrote him back 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.579 and confronted him and her and her sister were 00:34:40.579 --> 00:34:42.860 like, we're going to tell mom or you're going 00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:46.340 to tell mom about it. That was the end of the 00:34:46.340 --> 00:34:47.800 story. I was like, ooh, that's fucking crazy. 00:34:48.019 --> 00:34:50.539 That was not a good day in that house. I'm not 00:34:50.539 --> 00:34:53.980 telling mom. I'm going to show my face again. 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:57.909 That is not like... Pornhub because that's not 00:34:57.909 --> 00:35:00.889 how it would have ended on Pornhub. It would 00:35:00.889 --> 00:35:04.090 not have ended like that. That is the antithesis 00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:08.809 of what it would have been on Pornhub. I know 00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:11.349 you have to jet in a couple minutes or so. Do 00:35:11.349 --> 00:35:13.429 you want to promote some of your other social 00:35:13.429 --> 00:35:15.769 medias? Again, tell the audience you're only 00:35:15.769 --> 00:35:18.190 fans so they could go there, subscribe, check 00:35:18.190 --> 00:35:22.010 her out. I've seen stuff she's posted on Facebook 00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:24.730 that she blurs out, and they're good, folks. 00:35:24.889 --> 00:35:27.650 So if you're fans of nudies and all that stuff, 00:35:27.769 --> 00:35:29.909 I'd go on there and check her out. Meow, meow. 00:35:30.190 --> 00:35:33.610 Do you like cosplay? Do you like cosplay? I do 00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:37.690 appreciate that. So the short answer is Meta 00:35:37.690 --> 00:35:41.150 nuked my Instagram, like two of them, and one 00:35:41.150 --> 00:35:42.489 of them was the Lean Ahead of Me. It's the one 00:35:42.489 --> 00:35:45.090 I guess I was coming in too damn hot. TikTok 00:35:45.090 --> 00:35:47.869 nuked me too. I have to sit down and redo these 00:35:47.869 --> 00:35:51.610 things and behave this time. Bad Lena. Bad girl. 00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:56.510 But I do, the page is Lena Hedonista. And I'm 00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:58.369 not as active, but I need to

get back into it. 00:35:58.389 --> 00:36:00.829 The Twitter is Lena, I believe Lena underscore 00:36:00.829 --> 00:36:07.750 Hedonista. Is that Bobby? Do it yourself, Bobby. 00:36:08.750 --> 00:36:12.920 Oh my God. I got to turn my volume down. Eric 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:14.440 is sitting down. I couldn't hear a one word. 00:36:14.500 --> 00:36:16.780 That was that. I'm sorry. Yes. That wasn't your 00:36:16.780 --> 00:36:20.300 fault. That was our young Bobby who unmuted himself. 00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:24.199 Yes. So Lena, here's what we'll do then. Since 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.659 you got your social medias all over the place 00:36:26.659 --> 00:36:28.480 right now and crazy and you're doing this shoot, 00:36:28.579 --> 00:36:30.920 we're going to have you on again. Once you have 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.079 your, like maybe everything under Lena. I'm going 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.400 to be a good little girl. I'll work on it. Yeah, 00:36:37.420 --> 00:36:40.480 please. Because we want, we want our audience 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.309 to go there and let us know. What's going on 00:36:43.309 --> 00:36:46.409 on that OnlyFans page? And, you know, maybe, 00:36:46.550 --> 00:36:48.750 I know because you can't, like, save stuff. Maybe 00:36:48.750 --> 00:36:51.309 they could, in person, show us a picture and 00:36:51.309 --> 00:36:55.130 we could see the goods. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, 00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:58.070 I mean, I'm always taking feedback. I will say 00:36:58.070 --> 00:36:59.929 the complaint jar is gone, though. It's been 00:36:59.929 --> 00:37:01.929 replaced with just shoving it up your ass. No, 00:37:01.949 --> 00:37:05.010 I'm just kidding. But I do like constructive 00:37:05.010 --> 00:37:07.869 feedback. Constructive. With somebody being like, 00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:11.489 I don't like the shape of your tits. Bro, let 00:37:11.489 --> 00:37:15.559 me see your balls. I do like constructive criticism. 00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:18.360 I'll leave it with that. Constructive, thoughtful, 00:37:18.579 --> 00:37:22.119 sincere, useful criticism. If your comments have 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.239 to tell me that you think my ass doesn't look 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:28.559 the way you like or my tits, well... I'm going 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.559 to tell you what that is. I grew on myself. What 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.139 do you want me to do about it? I'm going to tell 00:37:34.139 --> 00:37:36.829 you what that is. It's all natural. Exactly. 00:37:36.829 --> 00:37:39.530 And so your head rests normal. Those are guys 00:37:39.530 --> 00:37:42.650 who can't fuck you in real life. And they're 00:37:42.650 --> 00:37:44.969 jealous of that fact. They're going to sit there 00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:47.590 and try to degrade you because they're probably, 00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:50.469 you know, in a basement somewhere jerking off 00:37:50.469 --> 00:37:54.750 the fucking, you know, you. It's like, bro, you 00:37:54.750 --> 00:37:56.929 wish those Gollum hands were touching these pits. 00:37:57.070 --> 00:38:03.920 Okay. I do. Look out. Precious. All right. It's 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.159 really lovely, and I hope that we can do it again. 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:07.920 And next time, I promise to have my audio not 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:09.559 as jacked up. See, it made me do two things. 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.820 I thought I was just going to sign in, and life 00:38:11.820 --> 00:38:14.260 was going to be easy. It fucked with me. It will 00:38:14.260 --> 00:38:16.699 be next time. I'll make sure to tell you how 00:38:16.699 --> 00:38:18.260 to do it the right way. I think I lost you again. 00:38:18.940 --> 00:38:21.719 Lost you? Okay. Thank you for coming on, Lena. 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.719 You were awesome. We will have her on again, 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:27.420 folks. Peace in the Middle East. Enjoy your show. 00:38:27.420 --> 00:38:29.039 Thank you, Lena. Take care. Nice to meet you. 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.210 Deuces. Deuces. Bye. Later. All right, so that 00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:37.010 worked for a little bit. I'm going to remove 00:38:37.010 --> 00:38:40.349 the phone so we don't have the audio. Do not 00:38:40.349 --> 00:38:43.090 report to Zoom. Good. All right, so now it's 00:38:43.090 --> 00:38:47.090 just the gracious two with you guys. I got it. 00:38:47.329 --> 00:38:51.769 Bobby is here and late. Bobby, don't come on 00:38:51.769 --> 00:38:53.429 yet because I'm mad at you. We're going to have 00:38:53.429 --> 00:38:55.849 you come on at the end a little bit, but just 00:38:55.849 --> 00:38:58.409 to let you know, when you do come on, I got some 00:38:58.409 --> 00:39:02.170 ungracious words for you to chastise a little 00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:05.230 bit. Can't always be gracious. God damn it. Yeah, 00:39:05.269 --> 00:39:09.809 I know. We got to change the name. But Chad, 00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:11.969 we were getting to such good stuff when we were 00:39:11.969 --> 00:39:17.369 ending that Instagram show about that death of 00:39:17.369 --> 00:39:18.969 a dictionary. Before that, when you guys were 00:39:18.969 --> 00:39:21.329 public affection, you had that eight track thing. 00:39:21.849 --> 00:39:24.409 Yeah, there were two. There was Proverbs of the 00:39:24.409 --> 00:39:26.829 Company and there was Divided Mind, Divided Planet 00:39:26.829 --> 00:39:30.280 were the two EPs that we made. And I just, I 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.179 cannot remember the songs that are on those. 00:39:32.579 --> 00:39:35.960 If anybody has access to one of those, let me 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:41.340 know. Yeah. Cause so again, I was a big fan of 00:39:41.340 --> 00:39:45.480 your band all the way since I think 94, maybe 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.019 even nine, no 92. I think the first time I was 00:39:48.019 --> 00:39:51.820 able to hear pain lies on a Riverside. And of 00:39:51.820 --> 00:39:53.760 course, once throwing copper came out, you were 00:39:53.760 -->

00:39:57.699 then my favorite band. But I never heard about 00:39:57.699 --> 00:40:01.139 this. eight -track cassette or whatever it was 00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:03.000 that you guys did with Public Affection before 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.460 Death of a Dictionary. Yeah. I'm pretty sure 00:40:06.460 --> 00:40:08.579 there's probably songs that are on Death of a 00:40:08.579 --> 00:40:13.199 Dictionary on those two EPs, but for the life 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:14.760 of me, I cannot remember what the fuck is on 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:18.780 those. Yeah. And then once you guys came out 00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:21.079 with the album Mental Jewelry, you basically 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:26.300 forgot about all those songs that were on the 00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:29.119 Death of a Dictionary and earlier. and really 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.280 started playing you know well good pain made 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.539 the cut from that's the dictionary to uh mental 00:40:34.539 --> 00:40:38.079 jewelry yes right but like if i look up concerts 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.019 from back in the day like i'm not seeing like 00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:41.559 you know i'm seeing a bunch of mental jewelry 00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:43.380 stuff on there and then some stuff that's going 00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:45.980 to be on throwing copper but like you know i'm 00:40:45.980 --> 00:40:49.380 not seeing paper flowers in concert and yeah 00:40:49.380 --> 00:40:51.360 i think at the time we were just concentrating 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.139 on the new stuff that we had written we felt 00:40:54.139 --> 00:40:57.429 it was more it was better and more powerful than, 00:40:57.429 --> 00:40:58.989 than the stuff that was on death of dictionary. 00:40:59.449 --> 00:41:04.469 Right. You know, went with that. Dude, I'm going 00:41:04.469 --> 00:41:06.409 to blow some smoke up your ass because I have 00:41:06.409 --> 00:41:09.269 to. And it's true. Like that shows like what 00:41:09.269 --> 00:41:12.130 a fucking great band you guys were that like, 00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:15.530 you could just scrap like an album like that 00:41:15.530 --> 00:41:18.210 and really not pull from it and play it in concert 00:41:18.210 --> 00:41:20.849 and stuff anymore. And just then write all this 00:41:20.849 --> 00:41:23.389 new music that, you know, Of course, the fans 00:41:23.389 --> 00:41:25.869 considered better, but you yourselves were, I 00:41:25.869 --> 00:41:27.730 guess, more proud of and stuff like that. That's 00:41:27.730 --> 00:41:32.010 just a huge feat for such young gentlemen. I 00:41:32.010 --> 00:41:36.469 appreciate that. We had to play those songs, 00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:39.670 the Death of the Dictionary stuff, a lot to get 00:41:39.670 --> 00:41:43.050 signed. We played CBGB's many, many, many, many 00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:45.510 times, played 930 Club many times, Chameleon 00:41:45.510 --> 00:41:49.469 in Lancaster, and we played all that stuff because 00:41:49.469 --> 00:41:52.199 we were playing it for... We did private showcases. 00:41:52.260 --> 00:41:55.059 We had a great story. Two great stories were 00:41:55.059 --> 00:41:56.760 doing private showcases before we got signed. 00:41:56.980 --> 00:41:59.139 So we were playing for record companies. We played 00:41:59.139 --> 00:42:03.539 for Seymour Stein. He was the big guy at Sire 00:42:03.539 --> 00:42:06.320 Records at the time. Okay. And he was like a 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:10.099 legend in the business. And he fucking fell asleep 00:42:10.099 --> 00:42:13.019 on us while we were playing. We did a showcase 00:42:13.019 --> 00:42:16.039 just for him. It was him and our managers and 00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.530 us in the room fucking playing. And we look over 00:42:18.530 --> 00:42:20.010 and we're fucking jamming out and all of a sudden 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:22.070 he's just asleep. And we're like, okay. So we 00:42:22.070 --> 00:42:24.909 just kind of stopped and started packing our 00:42:24.909 --> 00:42:28.110 shit up. But then we saw him years later once 00:42:28.110 --> 00:42:30.070 we were signed and throwing copper come out and 00:42:30.070 --> 00:42:32.769 we were like, hey, man. He's like, I didn't fall 00:42:32.769 --> 00:42:33.849 asleep on you. What are you talking about? He 00:42:33.849 --> 00:42:35.269 fucking denied it. We're like, what are you talking 00:42:35.269 --> 00:42:37.829 about? It's hilarious. And then we did a showcase 00:42:37.829 --> 00:42:43.489 for Disney Records. And this is in 89, 90. And 00:42:43.489 --> 00:42:45.750 we did this in New York. And we did the showcase. 00:42:47.050 --> 00:42:50.630 The Disney had a record label. Okay. And after 00:42:50.630 --> 00:42:53.030 we did it, they came back to us and they said, 00:42:53.090 --> 00:42:55.550 we think you guys should be a boy band. We think 00:42:55.550 --> 00:42:57.070 you should guys that all start learning how to 00:42:57.070 --> 00:42:59.409 dance. You're all pretty good looking guys. You 00:42:59.409 --> 00:43:00.889 should learn how to dance and sing. And we were 00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:06.409 like, fuck you. Thank God. It's like, come on, 00:43:06.429 --> 00:43:09.030 man. Yeah. And then, and then you look back on 00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:10.789 what's happening in Disney and Nickelodeon and 00:43:10.789 --> 00:43:12.250 all this shit. You're like, oh yeah. So you could 00:43:12.250 --> 00:43:15.190 fucking molest us and shit. Yeah. No, thanks. 00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:18.739 How fucking funny. So what you said there is 00:43:18.739 --> 00:43:21.239 so crazy poignant and stuff for like the trajectory 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.880 you guys went on. Like if that guy didn't fall 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.260 asleep, of course he would have fell in love 00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:28.360 with what he heard and probably signed you guys 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.360 and shit could have been different. And then 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.340 if you were stupid enough to listen

to fucking 00:43:33.340 --> 00:43:36.659 Disney and fucking, you know, do that thing again, 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.840 maybe this doesn't all happen. And you're a boy 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.440 band fucking getting blown by Walt Disney himself. 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:47.429 Yeah. Oh my God. That's insane, dude. That's 00:43:47.429 --> 00:43:51.230 funny. Wild story. Yeah. It's funny how things 00:43:51.230 --> 00:43:55.329 work out like that. Uh, other stuff, uh, from 00:43:55.329 --> 00:43:57.369 here. And this is, this is from, uh, somebody 00:43:57.369 --> 00:43:59.949 who's, uh, in the gracious audience, but of course 00:43:59.949 --> 00:44:02.329 has been fan fans of your band for a very long 00:44:02.329 --> 00:44:05.610 time. Um, I think we kind of touch on this a 00:44:05.610 --> 00:44:07.730 little bit where you said kind of CT has like 00:44:07.730 --> 00:44:10.260 the masters, everything, but He said, please 00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:14.099 remind Chad that the studio recordings of new 00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:18.119 city change and more have not been leaked or 00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.559 released. Some of us have been waiting 25 years. 00:44:20.780 --> 00:44:25.860 Just saying, is there any way though? Like, are 00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:28.280 there, first of all, recordings of new city and 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.539 change like that? Do you know? We recorded those 00:44:30.539 --> 00:44:32.420 for distance to hear. Yeah. We recorded everything, 00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:34.860 all those songs for distance to hear. Wow. It 00:44:34.860 --> 00:44:39.380 was. So that was kind of the beginning of the 00:44:39.380 --> 00:44:42.860 fallout between Ed and Chad. And those songs 00:44:42.860 --> 00:44:46.380 were guitar ideas that Chad had come to practice 00:44:46.380 --> 00:44:49.019 with, and we made them into songs, and they were 00:44:49.019 --> 00:44:53.519 fucking cool songs. And Ed was in New York. He 00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.579 was the only one doing mixing or mastering at 00:44:55.579 --> 00:44:59.320 the time, so he was the one selecting the songs 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.239 on the record. This was the first time that the 00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:03.179 whole band wasn't involved in the process. Go 00:45:03.179 --> 00:45:06.280 figure. And so the record became more of all. 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.360 the songs that he wrote instead of, and some, 00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.380 there was a couple of ideas that made it through 00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:14.039 that were from the band, but like most of it 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.920 was the stuff that Ed brought to the band, which 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.559 was fine. It was a great record. I think it's 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.039 fine, but it was a bit, it would have been a 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.420 more rocking record if the Chad Taylor stuff 00:45:23.420 --> 00:45:26.679 would have been put on. Yes. Yeah. So it's almost 00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.900 like we're the distance

of here. Then you almost 00:45:29.900 --> 00:45:32.619 had like a full nother albums worth of songs 00:45:32.619 --> 00:45:35.579 that were basically scrapped and not. you know, 00:45:35.579 --> 00:45:38.300 put on anything else except for overcome that 00:45:38.300 --> 00:45:42.519 went to five, uh, problem, but like, you know, 00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:46.739 new city change. Um, there was a bunch on there 00:45:46.739 --> 00:45:48.500 cause you, you played the bet and freedom concert. 00:45:48.579 --> 00:45:50.199 So I got to hear those. And then I was at your 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.699 stone show in 98. And again, everything that 00:45:53.699 --> 00:45:55.539 you played that night, except for like three 00:45:55.539 --> 00:45:59.860 songs were all new and they were, they were fucking 00:45:59.860 --> 00:46:03.300 rocking songs. And then of course the distance 00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:05.639 to here is one of my top albums as well for you 00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.219 guys. But, uh, it was just a different, a totally 00:46:08.219 --> 00:46:10.440 different vibe from what I heard at those shows 00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:12.820 to, to what was released. And that's amazing 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:15.679 that you can have all these songs that are banging, 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.920 like a really book, another like album that would 00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.159 have been like up in your top, you know, three, 00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:23.539 four or five albums and just, they're not out. 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:25.739 Like they're just sitting somewhere. Yeah. They're 00:46:25.739 --> 00:46:29.760 in archive and universal. The masters are, um, 00:46:31.150 --> 00:46:34.269 And we've never tried to do, I don't think to 00:46:34.269 --> 00:46:36.389 this day, we've ever tried to do like a B -sides 00:46:36.389 --> 00:46:39.610 album, like all the B -sides, leftover tracks 00:46:39.610 --> 00:46:43.190 from all the first four records. Yeah. Because 00:46:43.190 --> 00:46:46.250 there's quite a few. Yeah. And they're all fucking 00:46:46.250 --> 00:46:50.130 good. You only did it with Hold Me Up. Right. 00:46:50.409 --> 00:46:53.110 Yeah. That was on something re -released. Do 00:46:53.110 --> 00:46:57.130 you know this, Chad, too? Kevin Smith, the director, 00:46:57.329 --> 00:46:59.329 he does Clerks, Mallrats, and all that stuff. 00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.139 originally had Hold Me Up in Mallrats. It was 00:47:04.139 --> 00:47:05.960 going to be on the soundtrack to that, but I 00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.619 guess you guys or the record company wouldn't 00:47:08.619 --> 00:47:12.400 release the copyright. I don't know how that 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.360 works, but basically couldn't use it. But in 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.079 one of the deleted scenes from that movie, he 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:22.860 had a studio copy of that, quality copy of it, 00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:25.199 that was actually put in the movie and cut into 00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.119 it, but they deleted the scene, I guess, because 00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.559 he couldn't get the rights to it. So my question 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:34.289 to you is, How the fuck did he get a studio copy 00:47:34.289 --> 00:47:36.429 quality of that from back in the day when you 00:47:36.429 --> 00:47:39.869 guys didn't release the thing till way long after? 00:47:40.030 --> 00:47:42.389 I don't know. I have no idea unless he knew someone 00:47:42.389 --> 00:47:47.110 at Universal. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Because 00:47:47.110 --> 00:47:49.449 I think Universal produced those movies or something. 00:47:50.210 --> 00:47:52.610 It could be that or he just knew somebody in 00:47:52.610 --> 00:47:53.949 the music department saying, hey, give me that. 00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:56.440 wow i've heard about this live track you know 00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:58.659 hold me up guys had they could have given a copy 00:47:58.659 --> 00:48:03.159 of it that way yeah um i was gonna say uh yeah 00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.579 so zach and mary made a porno that's you know 00:48:05.579 --> 00:48:07.840 hold me that was kevin smith too right that's 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.940 yep he finally got the song in a in a in a movie 00:48:10.940 --> 00:48:14.119 yeah i don't know why we denied that back in 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.159 the day i'm not sure but you know we did for 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.530 some reason And you know what, though? The way 00:48:19.530 --> 00:48:22.070 he used it in Zack and Miri is better than how 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:23.750 he had it in there. I think he just wanted it 00:48:23.750 --> 00:48:25.610 in Mallrats because he loved you guys and loved 00:48:25.610 --> 00:48:28.429 that song. But the way he had it in Zack and 00:48:28.429 --> 00:48:30.269 Miri where they're starting off like fucking 00:48:30.269 --> 00:48:32.309 slow making out and then they start to fucking 00:48:32.309 --> 00:48:34.650 like this, like the song starts out slow and 00:48:34.650 --> 00:48:38.030 then starts rocking. It was better like and related. 00:48:39.269 --> 00:48:41.989 But I agree with that. It's just funny because 00:48:41.989 --> 00:48:44.929 like back in the mid 90s and stuff, you you were 00:48:44.929 --> 00:48:47.869 trying to be. like you want to keep your cred 00:48:47.869 --> 00:48:49.730 and try to be cool and so you didn't want to 00:48:49.730 --> 00:48:52.269 put out too much too much fucking music you don't 00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:54.269 want to put in the movie sometimes unless it 00:48:54.269 --> 00:48:56.349 was like really appropriate and like the lead 00:48:56.349 --> 00:48:58.809 single of the record that's how that's how it 00:48:58.809 --> 00:49:00.429 was back in the days like you didn't want to 00:49:00.429 --> 00:49:03.730 have like you didn't want to take you know sponsor 00:49:03.730 --> 00:49:07.170 dollars like we famously turned down like Bud 00:49:07.170 --> 00:49:09.789 Light was gonna know those Budweiser wanted to

00:49:09.789 --> 00:49:13.230 pay us like half a million dollars to brand our 00:49:13.230 --> 00:49:16.849 whole tour and have Budweiser in all the venues 00:49:16.849 --> 00:49:19.710 and blah, blah, blah. And we said no. We wanted 00:49:19.710 --> 00:49:22.050 more money, but we said no. And then so they 00:49:22.050 --> 00:49:24.010 just went back to all the venues and did the 00:49:24.010 --> 00:49:26.750 deal with them. We're like, fuck. Of course. 00:49:26.849 --> 00:49:29.710 Stupid. Shady. But back in the day, like I said, 00:49:29.829 --> 00:49:33.349 bands didn't do that. Right. You didn't take 00:49:33.349 --> 00:49:36.590 money from these big companies because you were 00:49:36.590 --> 00:49:39.909 like, that's fucking not cool. Right. But that's 00:49:39.909 --> 00:49:42.190 unheard of now. If someone offers you money, 00:49:42.269 --> 00:49:44.440 you're like, yeah, take it. We should have, but 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:46.719 whatever. You know what, Chad, though? Like, 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.980 you guys were kind of, like, cool to stick to 00:49:48.980 --> 00:49:51.679 your laurels or whatever on that point because 00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.679 a lot of bands spoke like that. Like, even Nirvana. 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:56.679 Like, he would say, like, I don't want to do, 00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.159 you know, I don't want to be in the spotlight 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.579 and blah, blah, blah, blah. But yet, he did every 00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:02.820 interview under the sun. Like, there was me at 00:50:02.820 --> 00:50:06.159 MTV. things of them. So like you guys really 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.139 walk that walk to where you're like, you know, 00:50:08.139 --> 00:50:10.199 we talk, we turned down a shit ton of press. 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:11.920 I mean, all the time we turned down the cover 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.519 of Rolling Stone like four times. Insane. Because 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.219 Gary Kerfurst was our, was our record company 00:50:17.219 --> 00:50:19.719 president, later became our manager in the 2000s, 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.079 but before he passed away, but he, he, he, he 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.599 hated the press because he thought, he thought 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:27.559 the press was all about making money off the 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.219 band. Right. So they, they would use you to sell 00:50:31.219 --> 00:50:34.119 their magazines. right but in the end it's like 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.380 live is not a big as big a name as say pearl 00:50:37.380 --> 00:50:39.800 jam or smashing pumpkins or nirvana for that 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.599 matter not because i mean obviously those bands 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.840 are huge and amazing but we just we we did less 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.260 press than them like we did less press than all 00:50:48.260 --> 00:50:50.739 of our contemporaries at the time because gary 00:50:50.739 --> 00:50:53.159 kershaw's like don't do their fucking rick

you 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.789 know their cover fuck fuck span and fuck you 00:50:55.789 --> 00:50:58.090 know, like Rolling Stone, we're waiting or we're 00:50:58.090 --> 00:51:00.230 waiting to do it until the fans voted on. That's 00:51:00.230 --> 00:51:01.530 how we got on the couple of Rolling Stone because 00:51:01.530 --> 00:51:04.969 the fans voted. But I mean, we could have done 00:51:04.969 --> 00:51:07.389 it a lot of times and been, I think a bigger 00:51:07.389 --> 00:51:11.510 household name at the time. For sure. Well, cause 00:51:11.510 --> 00:51:14.550 here's what it is. Like, so even like, like you 00:51:14.550 --> 00:51:16.670 guys sold 25 million records, you know, back 00:51:16.670 --> 00:51:18.449 then, you know, whatever, something like that. 00:51:18.510 --> 00:51:22.210 Yeah. That's huge. Those are huge numbers. So 00:51:22.210 --> 00:51:25.800 it's like, your fans knew you and stuff like 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.019 that but like the i guess it wasn't out to like 00:51:29.019 --> 00:51:31.320 some other people because i'd be like yo do you 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.639 know live and they'll be like no and then i'll 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:35.980 play them lightning crashes i alone all over 00:51:35.980 --> 00:51:38.059 you the dolphins cry and they're like oh shit 00:51:38.059 --> 00:51:41.059 of course i know them but like but so it's like 00:51:41.059 --> 00:51:44.400 think about what your fan base would have been 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.380 if you did you know that uh you know all those 00:51:47.380 --> 00:51:50.500 press releases and stuff like that like People 00:51:50.500 --> 00:51:52.440 got to know you because your music was great 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.480 and stood and resonated with them. But think 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:59.039 about how hugely popular you guys could have 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.500 been if, you know, if you didn't do all that. 00:52:02.019 --> 00:52:04.519 Sure. And even on throwing copper, like after, 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.719 after lightning crashes, we didn't officially 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.780 put out all over you, just all the radio, a lot 00:52:10.780 --> 00:52:12.420 of radio stations in America just started playing 00:52:12.420 --> 00:52:15.699 it spontaneously and it became its own hit, but 00:52:15.699 --> 00:52:18.780 we never. promoted it or put it out made a video 00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:20.960 for it because that was again gary kerfuss going 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.239 you've saturated enough let's save it for the 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.460 next record in hindsight i don't know if that 00:52:26.460 --> 00:52:28.539 was the best thing to do or not but it's you 00:52:28.539 --> 00:52:31.079 know it's what happened i mean it's kind of the 00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:33.820 same thing with not the same thing but like we 00:52:33.820 --> 00:52:37.559 notoriously and infamously turned down president 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.760 clinton to play at the white house because at 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:41.679 the end of 95 because we were just fucking tired 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.860 literally that's that's what there was a reason 00:52:43.860 --> 00:52:45.239 we're like we're fucking tired we're going home 00:52:45.650 --> 00:52:47.210 Amazing. Because it was right at the end of the 00:52:47.210 --> 00:52:50.130 tour. We had played our last show at the Spilly 00:52:50.130 --> 00:52:53.570 Spectrum, like the penultimate thing that we 00:52:53.570 --> 00:52:56.469 could do in Pennsylvania to be like a big band. 00:52:56.969 --> 00:52:59.730 And we were just like, didn't even celebrate. 00:52:59.829 --> 00:53:01.809 We were like, I'm fucking done. I'm going home. 00:53:02.010 --> 00:53:04.409 Because we were on tour for like 18 months solid 00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:06.550 for that record. Yeah. With no breaks, barely 00:53:06.550 --> 00:53:09.329 any breaks. We kept begging our management for 00:53:09.329 --> 00:53:11.429 fucking breaks. We were fucking tired. Sure. 00:53:11.469 --> 00:53:13.750 We were 24, but we were still like, Jesus Christ, 00:53:13.849 --> 00:53:16.829 we'd be killed out there. Yeah. But, you know, 00:53:16.829 --> 00:53:19.530 and then we were offered a famously offered a 00:53:19.530 --> 00:53:22.869 huge arena tour, like beginning in 96 to go out 00:53:22.869 --> 00:53:25.869 and do that. We made a lot of money, but we turned 00:53:25.869 --> 00:53:30.110 that down. And as I have always said, like David 00:53:30.110 --> 00:53:33.210 Sestak and Peter Freeman were good managers, 00:53:33.349 --> 00:53:36.889 but they were not. I don't think in my mind they 00:53:36.889 --> 00:53:40.329 were capable of dealing with the size band that 00:53:40.329 --> 00:53:42.889 we became. Right. One hundred percent. And they 00:53:42.889 --> 00:53:45.139 could have been like. Get on a fucking private 00:53:45.139 --> 00:53:48.760 jet. Go to a fucking island. Relax for two weeks. 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.719 Right. You have the money. You can fucking pay 00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.800 for it. Just go and get out of this. And then 00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.440 come back and do an arena tour and make $30 million. 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.900 Whatever it was. It was a fucking huge offer. 00:53:59.739 --> 00:54:02.340 That should have been done. But it wasn't. But 00:54:02.340 --> 00:54:05.519 it's okay. I don't blame them. It's just they 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.179 didn't know. And the force of the four of us 00:54:09.179 --> 00:54:11.300 telling them no was like, we're like, fuck you. 00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.039 We're not doing that. We're not doing it. I don't 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.079 care what you say. And that's how we that's the 00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.599 mindset that we were like a team that was unbreakable. 00:54:17.699 --> 00:54:19.920 Yeah. So the four of us were like, fuck, no, 00:54:19.980 --> 00:54:22.219 we're not doing that. Then you could barely have 00:54:22.219 --> 00:54:24.880

anyone tell us what to do at that point. But 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:28.800 whatever. So so so again, a bunch of it's like 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.820 a double edged sword because, you know, all that 00:54:31.820 --> 00:54:34.099 again, you did have a lot of commercial success, 00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.619 but it seemed like your fans of your band were 00:54:37.619 --> 00:54:40.789 like you were their number one band. So it was 00:54:40.789 --> 00:54:43.650 cool to go to your concerts because it was all 00:54:43.650 --> 00:54:46.710 like -minded people like that really had this 00:54:46.710 --> 00:54:49.190 huge love for your band and like they were your 00:54:49.190 --> 00:54:51.210 favorite band. I've been to plenty of concerts, 00:54:51.409 --> 00:54:54.829 Pearl Jam included, you know, where it's, there's, 00:54:54.909 --> 00:54:57.250 you know, some of those fans there, but majority 00:54:57.250 --> 00:54:59.449 of them are just music fans and they're going 00:54:59.449 --> 00:55:01.889 to a Pearl Jam concert. It's not like they're 00:55:01.889 --> 00:55:05.889 going to see their number one band. So like your 00:55:05.889 --> 00:55:08.010 fans, there's a lot of camaraderie there and 00:55:08.010 --> 00:55:10.320 like a lot of community. Who knows if that would 00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.780 have been the case had all, you know, everybody 00:55:13.780 --> 00:55:16.579 jumped on the bandwagon and stuff like that. 00:55:16.659 --> 00:55:18.980 So you got to take the good with the bad, I guess. 00:55:19.300 --> 00:55:24.099 Sure. Yeah. I agree. Because let's face it, folks, 00:55:24.219 --> 00:55:27.619 what better band came out of the 90s? Like, yeah, 00:55:27.659 --> 00:55:29.760 there's so many that I love and stuff like that, 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.679 but nobody fucking captured what you guys did 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:34.760 and, like, you know, kind of came out of nowhere. 00:55:34.860 --> 00:55:37.579 Like, they give a lot of credit to, you know, 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.289 Nirvana for... coming on the music scene and, 00:55:40.309 --> 00:55:43.030 and, and changing it and get rid of that hairband 00:55:43.030 --> 00:55:45.769 stuff. But I give just as much credit to you 00:55:45.769 --> 00:55:48.070 guys for like what you did to like alternative 00:55:48.070 --> 00:55:51.349 rock music and stuff like that, because you were 00:55:51.349 --> 00:55:53.210 your own sound. It wasn't like me. Yeah. Maybe 00:55:53.210 --> 00:55:55.789 you drew influences from, from, from other bands 00:55:55.789 --> 00:55:58.130 and stuff like that, but your sound was totally 00:55:58.130 --> 00:56:01.070 unique. You know, starting off with a pain lies 00:56:01.070 --> 00:56:03.030 on the Riverside where you started off with the 00:56:03.030 --> 00:56:04.949 drum beat and stuff like that. Like you don't, 00:56:04.949 --> 00:56:06.809 you didn't really hear stuff like that coming 00:56:06.809 --> 00:56:10.570 from bands and, and, Ed's voice being so unique 00:56:10.570 --> 00:56:14.090 and the guitar parts and Patrick's bass. You 00:56:14.090 --> 00:56:16.710 guys had lightning in a fucking bottle, man. 00:56:16.789 --> 00:56:21.750 It was cool to see. I appreciate that. I'm impressed 00:56:21.750 --> 00:56:23.650 with the band that are still doing Pearl Jam. 00:56:23.889 --> 00:56:26.010 It's still all the original guys, except for 00:56:26.010 --> 00:56:29.750 the drummer, obviously. Got Matt Cameron filling 00:56:29.750 --> 00:56:32.769 in there, which is great. Got Smashy Pumpkin 00:56:32.769 --> 00:56:35.250 still out. The bass player, Darcy's not with 00:56:35.250 --> 00:56:37.619 them, but she was a mess. oh yeah and we have 00:56:37.619 --> 00:56:40.199 green day those guys are still kicking ass dude 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:43.699 weezer i mean great black rose dude got just 00:56:43.699 --> 00:56:46.739 black crows yeah stp still doing it they have 00:56:46.739 --> 00:56:49.239 with a new singer obviously it's just you know 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.400 um it's and even even though i'm not in live 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:54.559 it's great to see that you know live is continuing 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.719 it still has legs and popularity and people still 00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:01.250 want to go see it so it's great yeah I mean, 00:57:01.250 --> 00:57:03.849 it'll never die down. I mean, again, you guys 00:57:03.849 --> 00:57:06.210 have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall 00:57:06.210 --> 00:57:08.610 of Fame one day, because although they've missed 00:57:08.610 --> 00:57:11.090 out on so many bands that belong there, like 00:57:11.090 --> 00:57:12.730 Howard talked about it this year, he's like, 00:57:12.809 --> 00:57:16.369 they're inducting Sinead O 'Connor into it, but 00:57:16.369 --> 00:57:18.690 the Black Crows aren't in it? Like, what? Right, 00:57:18.690 --> 00:57:22.889 yeah. Yeah, you can do that all day with bands 00:57:22.889 --> 00:57:24.590 that should be in it that aren't in it yet, and 00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:28.090 whatever, yeah. I kind of wonder what the, it 00:57:28.090 --> 00:57:31.090 must be something to do with a political process. 00:57:31.269 --> 00:57:33.250 Like you have to blow somebody who's in that 00:57:33.250 --> 00:57:35.650 organization to like, you have to play ball with 00:57:35.650 --> 00:57:38.949 them, uh, in order to get all those, all those 00:57:38.949 --> 00:57:41.170 fucking words, the Grammys, all that's all fucking 00:57:41.170 --> 00:57:43.809 political horseshit. Because I remember, you 00:57:43.809 --> 00:57:46.329 know, at the height of throwing copper, like 00:57:46.329 --> 00:57:48.150 we had the biggest record in America and like 00:57:48.150 --> 00:57:51.599 we didn't. get nominated for any Grammys because 00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.719 we found out that like the record company wasn't 00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.280 doing all the political work behind the scenes. 00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:57.920 They got, they got to fucking

talk to the people 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.139 and do schmooze and all this bullshit. It's funny, 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.119 man. It's pretty funny. And you know, like MTV 00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.739 movie or music awards at that point, you know, 00:58:06.739 --> 00:58:11.159 we famously lost to a TLC. Don't go changing 00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:13.920 waterfalls. I was crying that I wasn't really, 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.389 but I'm like really fucking TLC over this. great 00:58:17.389 --> 00:58:20.030 motherfucking band are you shouting me but it 00:58:20.030 --> 00:58:22.110 just showed the writing was on the wall where 00:58:22.110 --> 00:58:25.849 mtv was gonna go and get away from real music 00:58:25.849 --> 00:58:28.369 real music videos and become reality tv because 00:58:28.369 --> 00:58:32.449 they're doing stupid shit like that uh but throwing 00:58:32.449 --> 00:58:35.150 copper chad that was uh that was a thing like 00:58:35.150 --> 00:58:38.710 so i'm guessing when it was first came out it 00:58:38.710 --> 00:58:40.670 didn't hit the stratosphere like it eventually 00:58:40.670 --> 00:58:43.349 did but it's like a crazy stat like that that 00:58:43.349 --> 00:58:46.519 was like on the for like a certain amount of 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:49.219 weeks before it went to number one. It was on, 00:58:49.300 --> 00:58:51.460 yeah, 52 weeks before it went to number one. 00:58:52.179 --> 00:58:54.340 Amazing, dude. That was the longest climb that 00:58:54.340 --> 00:58:57.380 had happened at that point. It took a year to 00:58:57.380 --> 00:58:59.599 go number one. That was the longest any record 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.380 had ever taken to go number one. And then you 00:59:02.380 --> 00:59:04.980 fucking did it. Yeah. And because, you know, 00:59:05.019 --> 00:59:09.219 we put out so many drama in April -ish of 94, 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:11.920 I alone throughout the summer, and then lightning 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.440 crashes came out. I think the beginning of 95 00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:18.480 or something. Yeah. And, um, yeah. And then you 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:20.480 were rolling stones artist of the year in 1995 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:26.360 too. That's well, yes, exactly. Yeah. So what 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.719 did that, do you remember what that felt like? 00:59:28.860 --> 00:59:31.539 Like, cause all your hard work had basically 00:59:31.539 --> 00:59:34.659 now paid off. Like in other words, what you guys 00:59:34.659 --> 00:59:37.079 have been doing since grade school, you know, 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.360 into high school, whatever, like now you have 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.449 the number one album. in the country like what 00:59:42.449 --> 00:59:44.530 did you like do you remember having that feeling 00:59:44.530 --> 00:59:47.210 did it did it resonate to you at the time or 00:59:47.210 --> 00:59:50.030 were you just kind of yeah i mean i remember 00:59:50.030 --> 00:59:52.230 being very excited about it obviously it's like 00:59:52.230 --> 00:59:55.150 your record went number one it's like fuck man 00:59:55.150 --> 00:59:59.349 so it was very cool um but again as i said we 00:59:59.349 --> 01:00:01.070 were you know we were in this touring bubble 01:00:01.070 --> 01:00:05.989 and like just constantly on the road and like 01:00:05.989 --> 01:00:09.429 we didn't it was i say we're in this bubble it's 01:00:09.429 --> 01:00:11.480 like you didn't kind of realize how big you were 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:13.840 right i always tell the story i didn't know how 01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.420 big the band was until we i went home for christmas 01:00:17.420 --> 01:00:24.719 in 95 and 95 and uh i went to my cousin my mom's 01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:26.880 cousin's house who we you know even to this day 01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:29.400 they still go there christmas eve and if i'm 01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.079 home i'll go there and bob and judy's house what's 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:36.159 up bob and judy and uh and uh so we had been 01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:39.369 to this party i had been to this party probably 01:00:39.369 --> 01:00:42.670 23 years, you know, something like that. However 01:00:42.670 --> 01:00:44.610 long they were doing the party, whatever. Right. 01:00:44.809 --> 01:00:46.889 And it's just all like friends and family and 01:00:46.889 --> 01:00:49.090 a couple of friends of the family, whatever. 01:00:49.570 --> 01:00:53.670 And that fucking year I went, I went in there 01:00:53.670 --> 01:00:56.090 and I like, all of a sudden I get cornered in 01:00:56.090 --> 01:00:58.590 this back bedroom with all like my cousins and 01:00:58.590 --> 01:01:00.070 like all their fucking friends. And I'm just 01:01:00.070 --> 01:01:03.489 like, what the fuck is happening? And that's 01:01:03.489 --> 01:01:05.130 when I know I was like, Oh shit, this thing is 01:01:05.130 --> 01:01:08.880 like, bigger than i thought it was like these 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.579 are all my my relatives now are like look at 01:01:11.579 --> 01:01:15.280 me like i'm like different and right this this 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.579 rock star guy i'm like it's me hello hello i 01:01:19.579 --> 01:01:23.940 didn't change yeah same guy I guess for the younger 01:01:23.940 --> 01:01:26.179 audience out there that like grew up on cell 01:01:26.179 --> 01:01:27.280 phones or something like, what are they, what 01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:28.579 are they, what do they mean by touring bubble? 01:01:28.659 --> 01:01:30.780 So in other words, they were out touring like 01:01:30.780 --> 01:01:33.360 crazy hotels, you know, tour buses, stuff like 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.619 that. And you didn't have all the access you 01:01:35.619 --> 01:01:38.320 have to now, like where you could get news and 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.599 see things and get Google alerts on yourself. 01:01:40.699 --> 01:01:44.039 Like, so they were just, you know, going through 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.860 it and didn't realize

like all the fucking success 01:01:46.860 --> 01:01:49.829 that built through there. And, you know, like 01:01:49.829 --> 01:01:51.969 Chad just said, once he got back home and fucking 01:01:51.969 --> 01:01:53.969 realized like, you know, his cousins and their 01:01:53.969 --> 01:01:55.849 friends, they all wanted a piece. He's like, 01:01:55.909 --> 01:02:00.369 Oh shit. But that's so far into this new generation. 01:02:00.369 --> 01:02:02.530 Like how didn't. Right. Yeah. Cause yeah, it 01:02:02.530 --> 01:02:04.369 was like, yeah, you didn't have social media. 01:02:04.469 --> 01:02:06.989 You didn't have YouTube. You didn't have, you 01:02:06.989 --> 01:02:09.630 didn't have a phone. You just, you, you got paper, 01:02:09.690 --> 01:02:11.750 like your manager, you send you charts and go, 01:02:11.789 --> 01:02:14.210 Oh, your song is number this number of this, 01:02:14.369 --> 01:02:16.230 you know, this week. Oh, great. Okay. Yeah. The 01:02:16.230 --> 01:02:19.320 records. Climb into number 25. Holy shit. That's 01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.340 amazing. And then you just move on. But you were 01:02:22.340 --> 01:02:24.920 too busy trying to sleep and fucking wake up 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.360 and play a show the next day. So you just didn't 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.900 realize or we didn't realize how how big it was. 01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:35.980 Amazing. Yeah. What is what is like tour life 01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:38.639 like on a bus like that? Can you can you sleep? 01:02:39.070 --> 01:02:42.349 like you know comfortably like is it uh you know 01:02:42.349 --> 01:02:44.150 once you got like a nice tour bus i'm talking 01:02:44.150 --> 01:02:45.690 about like in the early days when you guys were 01:02:45.690 --> 01:02:47.050 in that van and stuff but like once you guys 01:02:47.050 --> 01:02:49.090 got the nice tour bus and stuff like that like 01:02:49.090 --> 01:02:52.210 is it comfortable to sleep uh in that kind of 01:02:52.210 --> 01:02:55.550 way or is it i was i liked it because i like 01:02:55.550 --> 01:02:57.510 to sleep with a little bit of noise so like a 01:02:57.510 --> 01:03:00.070 fan or something so you have the bus hum yeah 01:03:00.070 --> 01:03:02.650 um so yeah i slept well on tour buses all the 01:03:02.650 --> 01:03:08.440 time yeah and were you guys like i know I've 01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.119 met you guys a couple of times backstage and 01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:12.619 stuff like that. I would see Ed with like a beer 01:03:12.619 --> 01:03:14.539 and stuff like that. Patrick would be fucking 01:03:14.539 --> 01:03:17.019 in closet smoking with my mother and stuff like 01:03:17.019 --> 01:03:20.659 that. Did you guys get into like any heavy partying 01:03:20.659 --> 01:03:23.260 after shows or was it kind of just like meet 01:03:23.260 --> 01:03:25.539 some fans and like back to business and go to 01:03:25.539 --> 01:03:27.599 bed? Like, or did you guys get to sew some Royal 01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.699 Oats? During, during like 90, but during the 01:03:30.699 --> 01:03:34.820 nineties, no, not, not a whole lot. And I, I 01:03:34.820 --> 01:03:39.070 was, with a girl pretty much and she came my 01:03:39.070 --> 01:03:42.530 girlfriend like 93 to you know i was with her 01:03:42.530 --> 01:03:44.969 until we got married 96 and i've got divorced 01:03:44.969 --> 01:03:50.289 in 2000 -ish 99 something like that and uh so 01:03:50.289 --> 01:03:52.809 i was not participating in a lot of that i mean 01:03:52.809 --> 01:03:54.690 have a drink and stuff after the show but right 01:03:54.690 --> 01:03:57.190 i was trying to be a you know faithful husband 01:03:57.190 --> 01:04:02.050 but um so there so i got divorced from her and 01:04:02.050 --> 01:04:05.420 then there was a period where before i met my 01:04:05.420 --> 01:04:09.960 second wife in 2002 ish, there was like a two 01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:14.699 year period where we were all fucking just having 01:04:14.699 --> 01:04:17.900 a great time being rock stars. So yes, that's 01:04:17.900 --> 01:04:21.480 what I like to hear. And I was, I was, I was 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:23.019 the only one not married. So I was like, I'm 01:04:23.019 --> 01:04:26.019 fucking doing it. Let's, let's go have fun. Let's 01:04:26.019 --> 01:04:28.659 get, so that, that's, that's, we would, so that 01:04:28.659 --> 01:04:30.760 two, 2000, we did that four with the counting 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.340 pros and the co -headlined and, and, and, uh, 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.760 Adam Duritz and I got into this tradition where 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:41.840 we would swap spots. They would go on last or 01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.840 we were going last. So whoever was going on before 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.019 the other, I would walk out and give them a Red 01:04:47.019 --> 01:04:48.699 Bull vodka. That was the fucking drink of the 01:04:48.699 --> 01:04:52.039 tour, Red Bull vodka. So I'd give him one, and 01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:53.880 then he'd come out and give me one, and then 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.500 we'd party afterwards. We had a great time. That 01:04:56.500 --> 01:04:59.320 was fun. That's a great, that was a good time 01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.539 to kind of be, have your little single moment 01:05:01.539 --> 01:05:04.800 too, because that was a big tour and big audience 01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:07.539 and stuff like that. So yeah, that was a good 01:05:07.539 --> 01:05:08.719 time. That's where we met Chris Shin because 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:10.599 he was in a band called Unified Theory, which 01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:15.039 was the guys from, was Chris Thorne and - Oh, 01:05:15.059 --> 01:05:17.599 Bly Melon. What's the bass player's name from 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:20.320 Bly Melon? Brad Smith, where the, you know, the 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:22.460 current bass player for Unified Theory, Chris 01:05:22.460 --> 01:05:24.880 was a singer and Dave Kruzan was the drummer 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:28.159 from Pearl Jam.

So that's where I got to hang 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:33.139 out with Dave and met Chris. And Chris Thorne 01:05:33.139 --> 01:05:36.719 is from Dover, Pennsylvania. So when we did the 01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:40.119 tour with Blind Melon and Big Audio Dynamite 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:44.719 and PIL in 92, was that? That was our first tour. 01:05:44.860 --> 01:05:46.579 Blind Melon opened up the whole thing. And so 01:05:46.579 --> 01:05:49.039 we got to hang out with Chris Thorne and stuff. 01:05:49.539 --> 01:05:52.920 And then he toured with you in 98 or something. 01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:54.699 Yeah, he played a little bit with us for a little 01:05:54.699 --> 01:05:58.980 bit. Unified Theory, though, back to that. That 01:05:58.980 --> 01:06:01.099 was a great record, man. That was a great band. 01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:03.579 I liked that record a lot. I was just going to 01:06:03.579 --> 01:06:05.679 say, it seemed like it's almost an all -star 01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:08.219 band, and I really didn't know of them until 01:06:08.219 --> 01:06:11.480 you guys did live with Chris Shin, and then I 01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.500 heard a song from them that I loved, but I never 01:06:13.500 --> 01:06:15.639 went back to check out that album. But I hear 01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.559 all these legendary people that were in it. I 01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.920 wonder what happened there and how they didn't, 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.619 because it seems like that should have been a 01:06:23.619 --> 01:06:27.019 big -ass band. I mean, it's the classic, as far 01:06:27.019 --> 01:06:28.880 as I knew, what they told me is like the great 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:30.780 record company just wasn't supporting them for 01:06:30.780 --> 01:06:33.579 whatever reason. Yeah. You know, that's, that's 01:06:33.579 --> 01:06:35.460 the thing about you can make a great record and 01:06:35.460 --> 01:06:37.519 you can be the best band in the world. But if 01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.980 it ever, all these little things have to come 01:06:39.980 --> 01:06:42.260 together from success, it's not just about being 01:06:42.260 --> 01:06:44.320 a great band and being persistent and having 01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.500 the great music. Then you, back in those days, 01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:49.760 anyway, you had a record company in the, so you 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:51.980 could have the best fucking record in the world 01:06:51.980 --> 01:06:53.400 and give it to those idiots. And they're like, 01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.769 eh. Yeah. And if they don't believe it and back 01:06:56.769 --> 01:06:58.449 it, they don't put the money towards it. Like, 01:06:58.449 --> 01:07:02.630 it's, you know, dead on arrival. Right. And record 01:07:02.630 --> 01:07:04.929 companies used to literally, and they probably 01:07:04.929 --> 01:07:07.110 still do this, they would pay for a recording, 01:07:07.250 --> 01:07:10.650 you know, pay $250 ,000, $500 ,000 to make a 01:07:10.650 --> 01:07:12.610 record, and then they'd just fucking shelve it 01:07:12.610 --> 01:07:14.989 and not put it out. And you can't do anything 01:07:14.989 --> 01:07:17.289 about it. And they would just take the write 01:07:17.289 --> 01:07:19.349 -off as a company. Like, oh, write -off $250 01:07:19.349 --> 01:07:22.030 ,000. Wow. And their record's sitting in a vault. 01:07:22.130 --> 01:07:23.829 You can't get a hold of it unless they give it 01:07:23.829 --> 01:07:27.449 to you, which is not very often. So it's like 01:07:27.449 --> 01:07:30.730 almost now, since you don't have to be beholden 01:07:30.730 --> 01:07:33.230 to them, if you're a really good marketer and 01:07:33.230 --> 01:07:36.809 you use social media properly, there is a way 01:07:36.809 --> 01:07:38.670 to get your music out there and in front of the 01:07:38.670 --> 01:07:41.050 masses now where you don't have to be dependent 01:07:41.050 --> 01:07:44.349 on this record company to do it for you. Yeah, 01:07:44.349 --> 01:07:47.210 it's definitely a long, hard journey, but people 01:07:47.210 --> 01:07:49.210 are doing it. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. 01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.800 There's bands I'm hearing that are independent, 01:07:52.059 --> 01:07:55.360 so to speak, and kind of doing their thing. Yeah, 01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:57.980 I mean, there's way more ways to make your music. 01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.639 You can buy a computer like I'm on right now 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:03.780 and fucking make a record on it with Pro Tools. 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:08.179 Right. It's amazing. It is. I mean, back when 01:08:08.179 --> 01:08:11.119 we were coming up making our own demos, like 01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:13.579 I said, Divide of Mind, Divide of Planet, Primers 01:08:13.579 --> 01:08:17.220 of the Company, we were making on an 8 -track 01:08:17.220 --> 01:08:19.869 cassette recorder. We had eight tracks. That's 01:08:19.869 --> 01:08:21.869 all you had. You could maybe bounce some stuff 01:08:21.869 --> 01:08:25.130 onto two tracks. You were very limited on the 01:08:25.130 --> 01:08:27.170 amount of instruments you could put on it. Plus, 01:08:27.229 --> 01:08:30.789 it's on a cassette. That's not a very dense format. 01:08:32.489 --> 01:08:34.569 Nowadays, you can make a whole record on your 01:08:34.569 --> 01:08:36.409 computer. You can have unlimited tracks. You 01:08:36.409 --> 01:08:38.329 can put on many vocals and whatever the fuck 01:08:38.329 --> 01:08:40.390 you want and mix it on there. They have mastering 01:08:40.390 --> 01:08:43.149 programs. That was stuff that you didn't have 01:08:43.149 --> 01:08:45.390 access to. You had to make a record, figure out 01:08:45.390 --> 01:08:47.699 how to do that, and then have a guy mix it. and 01:08:47.699 --> 01:08:51.100 then have the master guy master it. But you don't 01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:53.079 need all those steps anymore. Those people still 01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:55.739 exist and they're still working, but the majority

01:08:55.739 --> 01:08:57.920 of people can just make the whole record, start 01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:02.119 to finish, on a computer, and then you have YouTube, 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.840 social media, and all these outlets to put it 01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.840 out. You've got to get above the noise and above 01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:11.819 the static, but you have way more access to platforms 01:09:11.819 --> 01:09:13.880 to put your music out now than just the major 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.810 labels. Right. And as long as you have like that 01:09:17.810 --> 01:09:19.770 good music recorded, like, cause you can now 01:09:19.770 --> 01:09:22.890 pay for ads on social media, pay for ads on Hulu 01:09:22.890 --> 01:09:26.109 and it's not crazy expensive. So it's like there 01:09:26.109 --> 01:09:28.470 there's even that Avenue, as long as your music 01:09:28.470 --> 01:09:30.670 holds up, like you could get it out without, 01:09:30.729 --> 01:09:32.390 you know, having to, you know, if you don't know 01:09:32.390 --> 01:09:35.630 how to do all the, you know you know, marketing 01:09:35.630 --> 01:09:37.850 on, on the social media and stuff like you could 01:09:37.850 --> 01:09:40.529 actually pay and get the ads out there and get 01:09:40.529 --> 01:09:42.800 music out there that way. So it's. the money 01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.319 you would have paid to record and go to a studio 01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:47.199 and do all that, you can now use for your marketing 01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:50.119 budget, which is kind of cool. Yes, absolutely. 01:09:50.579 --> 01:09:54.619 So you guys got your own 8 -track recorder and 01:09:54.619 --> 01:09:56.880 learned how to use it, and that's how you recorded 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.380 the first thing? Yeah, I think, I forget who, 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.939 was it Chad or Patrick? I forget who had the 01:10:02.939 --> 01:10:06.760 8 -track recorder. But yeah, just figured it 01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.079 out. That means then if you guys were coming 01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.500 up today, then that same... person or group of 01:10:12.500 --> 01:10:14.500 people would have probably figured out how to 01:10:14.500 --> 01:10:16.819 do it on the computer and been able to record 01:10:16.819 --> 01:10:19.579 that way. Yeah, Chad and Patrick were way into 01:10:19.579 --> 01:10:21.520 recording. They loved the recording stuff and 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:26.239 learning all the effects and the boards and all 01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:28.920 the stuff. So I'll give them credit where credit's 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.039 due. They were the two guys in the band and loved 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:33.260 all that stuff. I was not really into it. I was 01:10:33.260 --> 01:10:35.819 just, you know, just tell me what to fucking 01:10:35.819 --> 01:10:38.720 record, baby. Fuck yeah. Mic my shit up and let 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.649 me do it. and get it you guys did man like what 01:10:42.649 --> 01:10:45.289 again just the magic you guys did and the four 01:10:45.289 --> 01:10:47.630 of you having the same passion the same vision 01:10:47.630 --> 01:10:50.770 and implementing it and this person's better 01:10:50.770 --> 01:10:53.149 at this like the recording side and this person's 01:10:53.149 --> 01:10:55.970 better at speaking to the cameras and this person's 01:10:55.970 --> 01:10:57.989 better at laying down it like it just worked 01:10:57.989 --> 01:11:01.710 out seamlessly and as a fan of yours and this 01:11:01.710 --> 01:11:06.050 band I would tell people all the time My favorite 01:11:06.050 --> 01:11:07.909 band is The Best because they're never going 01:11:07.909 --> 01:11:10.229 to break up. They're four fucking friends from 01:11:10.229 --> 01:11:16.510 childhood. They'll never have any issues. I would 01:11:16.510 --> 01:11:18.189 have never thought that either, but hey, here 01:11:18.189 --> 01:11:24.189 we are. I just heard Ed on SiriusXM on Lithium. 01:11:24.229 --> 01:11:26.170 They do a show called On the Road or something. 01:11:28.369 --> 01:11:32.350 That's funny. Was he naked on the toilet? No, 01:11:32.350 --> 01:11:34.590 no, no, no, no. It was great to hear him tell 01:11:34.590 --> 01:11:38.970 the story about our green van. And he told it 01:11:38.970 --> 01:11:40.529 accurately, which was great. And it was just 01:11:40.529 --> 01:11:42.850 kind of nostalgic for me to remember the green 01:11:42.850 --> 01:11:46.250 van and driving to fucking gigs and outrun the 01:11:46.250 --> 01:11:49.250 cops in it and shit. Yeah. You know, that kind 01:11:49.250 --> 01:11:52.270 of stuff. Hell yeah. The fucking good old days. 01:11:52.289 --> 01:11:55.090 And then we graduated. We told the story. He 01:11:55.090 --> 01:11:58.600 told the story where we got... uh signed and 01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.640 then we went on tour for mental jewelry and we 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:02.939 did that big audio dynamite tour it was called 01:12:02.939 --> 01:12:05.939 120 minutes tour and we were able to get a bus 01:12:05.939 --> 01:12:10.460 and we got this old shitty bus is an eagle and 01:12:10.460 --> 01:12:13.579 what he forgot to tell in his story was that 01:12:13.579 --> 01:12:17.159 we nicknamed the bus the bus evil which is lifestyle 01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.939 backwards how funny so we put that in the there 01:12:19.939 --> 01:12:22.380 there's a little window in the front it used 01:12:22.380 --> 01:12:24.159 to be in the front of the buses where they tell 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.649 you the location and where you're going So we 01:12:26.649 --> 01:12:29.170 put evil in there. And then the bus tried to 01:12:29.170 --> 01:12:31.770 kill us because it was leaking carbon monoxide 01:12:31.770 --> 01:12:35.909 through a hole back in the back lounge. There 01:12:35.909 --> 01:12:38.090 was like this little separation between where 01:12:38.090 --> 01:12:43.369 the floor met the one wall. And it's all black 01:12:43.369 --> 01:12:45.050 around

the hole. And I was back there one day 01:12:45.050 --> 01:12:47.550 going, dude, there's fucking exhaust coming in 01:12:47.550 --> 01:12:49.329 here. No wonder we can fucking sleep on this 01:12:49.329 --> 01:12:52.069 bus like no one's business. We're fucking dying 01:12:52.069 --> 01:12:55.899 slowly. I'd almost pass it out. So Ed did not 01:12:55.899 --> 01:12:57.640 include that part in the story where we nicknamed 01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:59.260 the bus evil and then it fucking tried to kill 01:12:59.260 --> 01:13:01.319 us. We're like, we're not doing that again. That's 01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:04.300 hysterical. And then also people like driving 01:13:04.300 --> 01:13:05.920 in front of you, if they're looking in their 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:07.939 rear view mirror, it probably says live, right? 01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.460 Because it's mirrored. So, right. Yes. Yeah. 01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:13.220 How fucking cool, man. That's a cool part of 01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:15.279 the story that, uh, you know, wasn't, would have, 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:16.899 but you heard it here, folks on the gracious 01:13:16.899 --> 01:13:21.760 too. So, uh, which, um, Oh shit. I had something. 01:13:22.539 --> 01:13:25.479 that I wanted to say to that, but my fantastical 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:28.140 brain. Sorry. Oh, I know what happens. Not, not 01:13:28.140 --> 01:13:30.880 you, me. If I interrupt you, it's because I don't 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.560 want to forget what I'm fucking about to say. 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.640 So I did the same thing. Yep. And that's why 01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:37.279 I need to start taking an alpha brain, fucking 01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:40.520 Joe Rogan stuff. I want to try it too, dude. 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.279 I just heard that target has it like in there. 01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:45.930 Cause like I'm. Ordered something from on it 01:13:45.930 --> 01:13:48.029 years ago. And like, I've been on their fucking 01:13:48.029 --> 01:13:50.329 mailing list ever since. And they barred me with 01:13:50.329 --> 01:13:52.649 shit. So it's like, I didn't want to order something 01:13:52.649 --> 01:13:55.930 again. Yeah. Do you want to try it? It's in target 01:13:55.930 --> 01:13:58.250 now. So, uh, I'm all about supplements. I've 01:13:58.250 --> 01:14:00.210 been taking supplements for years and years. 01:14:00.310 --> 01:14:02.909 I take, you know, joint supplements. I've been 01:14:02.909 --> 01:14:05.210 taking, uh, like the whole, the big rate right 01:14:05.210 --> 01:14:09.489 now is NM, NMN, which is a precursor precursor 01:14:09.489 --> 01:14:12.989 to NAD, which you need to survive. You produce 01:14:12.989 --> 01:14:15.689 less of it after you're 40. Everyone's taking 01:14:15.689 --> 01:14:17.989 this NMN stuff. I've been taking that for 10 01:14:17.989 --> 01:14:21.409 or 12 years already. There's another thing called 01:14:21.409 --> 01:14:24.090 resveratrol, which is also an anti -aging thing, 01:14:24.170 --> 01:14:26.869 which is the stuff that's in red wine, like in 01:14:26.869 --> 01:14:30.369 grapes. They usually combine these two supplements 01:14:30.369 --> 01:14:31.930 together. I've been taking those for years and 01:14:31.930 --> 01:14:36.710 years. What else? I'll take fish oil. I'll take 01:14:36.710 --> 01:14:40.789 a whole stack of shit. What do you do? Fish oil 01:14:40.789 --> 01:14:43.500 pills? Yeah. Yeah. I don't drink fish oil. Fuck 01:14:43.500 --> 01:14:47.239 no. Don't you burp that up? Like I tried that 01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:51.199 and I could taste it like an hour. I would only 01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.279 take fish oil stuff when I eat. I would take 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:56.979 it before I eat and then put it underneath the 01:14:56.979 --> 01:14:59.060 food. Yeah. Otherwise you don't want to take 01:14:59.060 --> 01:15:01.199 that on empty stomach. That's disgusting. Oh, 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:04.239 Hey, so I never knew how to do it. Probably good. 01:15:04.300 --> 01:15:05.539 Now I'm going to start taking that. Cause there's 01:15:05.539 --> 01:15:07.180 a lot of shit in there that your body needs. 01:15:07.710 --> 01:15:10.430 Yeah, it's great. It's omega or mega, mega five 01:15:10.430 --> 01:15:12.930 fatty acids. Great for your brain part. Yeah, 01:15:12.949 --> 01:15:15.989 absolutely. But anyway, so I've been taking tons 01:15:15.989 --> 01:15:18.149 of supplements and why not try another one? I'll 01:15:18.149 --> 01:15:21.449 try an alpha brain. Yeah. Nootropics. Yeah. And 01:15:21.449 --> 01:15:23.630 those, those work. I mean, from not just from 01:15:23.630 --> 01:15:25.510 the on its side, but I've heard a lot of people 01:15:25.510 --> 01:15:28.050 that take the, like whatever some of the mushrooms 01:15:28.050 --> 01:15:29.989 are and stuff in there that it really does. The 01:15:29.989 --> 01:15:32.229 nootropic in there is like really good and potent. 01:15:33.670 --> 01:15:36.390 Gary Brekka, Chad, you know, the guy that was 01:15:36.390 --> 01:15:41.579 on Rogan. My parents just went and did GaryBrecker 01:15:41.579 --> 01:15:43.579 .com and they're doing the test and they're going 01:15:43.579 --> 01:15:46.020 to see what they need their body to methylize 01:15:46.020 --> 01:15:48.000 and all that stuff. Yeah, I want to do that. 01:15:48.020 --> 01:15:49.600 I definitely want to go on his site and do that. 01:15:49.699 --> 01:15:51.619 It's like $500 for the test or something like 01:15:51.619 --> 01:15:55.279 that. A lot of people have the motherfucker gene 01:15:55.279 --> 01:16:01.140 which is MTHFR and that actually my ex -wife 01:16:01.140 --> 01:16:07.520 had that genetic I guess it's genetic abnormality 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.939 so if you have that gene then it's just there's 01:16:10.939 --> 01:16:12.819 certain things that it messes up in your body 01:16:12.819 --> 01:16:17.020 but um my kids probably have it too but it's 01:16:17.020 --> 01:16:19.800 all right it's amazing that the

these doctors 01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:23.659 would rather not have your body actually naturally 01:16:23.659 --> 01:16:25.680 methylize and all that stuff and have you just 01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:27.380 i don't know western medicine they give a fuck 01:16:27.380 --> 01:16:29.460 they just want to give you drugs that's it right 01:16:29.460 --> 01:16:32.060 i'm not trying to cure shit right they want to 01:16:32.060 --> 01:16:35.000 give you drugs and It's just ridiculous what 01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.119 Western medicine is. Not all doctors are like 01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:40.100 that, but a lot of them are. Yeah. Like, oh, 01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:42.300 you have a headache? Well, fuck it. Just take, 01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:44.060 you know, who cares why you have the headache? 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:47.100 Just take aspirin to get rid of it. Right. Okay. 01:16:47.579 --> 01:16:50.920 Right. And it's like, you almost don't want to 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:52.600 blame it on the doctors. Like, you want to take 01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:55.020 the, like, less evil side and say, like, they're 01:16:55.020 --> 01:16:57.399 just not, you know, they're being, they're not 01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.720 doing their continuing education or they're being 01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:03.939 educated wrong by whatever. i mean at this point 01:17:03.939 --> 01:17:06.000 you know they should be some of the smartest 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.560 people in the room so they should start to figure 01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:12.279 this out and actually help nations like that 01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.680 some of them like i said some of them do some 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.680 of them are actually will learn stuff and figure 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:20.340 out stuff like you know when when we were uh 01:17:20.340 --> 01:17:23.260 you know our kids were born we didn't vax them 01:17:23.260 --> 01:17:26.819 right away we waited a long time Good. Because 01:17:26.819 --> 01:17:29.260 we read all about vaxes and like, you know, why 01:17:29.260 --> 01:17:32.760 does a newborn have to get a hepatitis B fucking 01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:36.699 shot right out of the womb? It's a sexually transmitted 01:17:36.699 --> 01:17:40.800 disease. Why are you giving hepatitis B to a 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.720 newborn? Right. What the fuck? Makes no sense. 01:17:43.899 --> 01:17:46.279 But like I was going to say is that doctors in 01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:50.039 medical school, they learn very little about 01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.840 vaccines. So they're not vaccine experts by any 01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:55.119 means. Right. Most of them. I mean, some of them 01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.619 that have gone on to figure it out and like actually 01:17:57.619 --> 01:18:01.100 do research, read shit, which is against the 01:18:01.100 --> 01:18:03.659 left law at this point. Don't learn about anything. 01:18:03.859 --> 01:18:06.640 Fuck you. Now, how dare you? If you learn about 01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:07.880

something, you're going to figure out we're lying 01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:11.920 to you. So don't do that. But anyway, it's interesting 01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:13.520 because they were like, well, listen to my doctor. 01:18:13.619 --> 01:18:15.180 Well, your doctor is not an expert. Your doctor 01:18:15.180 --> 01:18:17.939 is being fucking paid by drug companies to administer 01:18:17.939 --> 01:18:20.439 the vaccines to your child. That happens. That's 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:23.340 what happens. They paid extra to give your kid 01:18:23.340 --> 01:18:26.399 vaccines. And what is it now? Like I think when 01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.640 we were kids or I think it was like eight different 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.340 vaccines you got, like now it's like 40 something 01:18:32.340 --> 01:18:34.720 that they give these kids. No, no, no. It's 76 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:40.479 is the full schedule. Dude. Yeah. That's it's 01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:44.039 nuts. That's crazy. And you know, it all exploded 01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:46.939 after they passed the vaccine act and what the 01:18:46.939 --> 01:18:50.399 86 and you know, in, in the vaccine act, they. 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:55.600 The vaccine manufacturers wanted immunity because 01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.319 they say and they admitted in the Vaccine Act 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:06.300 that our products harm people. Crazy. They admit 01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:08.659 it, but now they have full immunity. And so it's 01:19:08.659 --> 01:19:10.420 like, and you know all these drug companies, 01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:13.100 they get sued constantly for their drugs, killing 01:19:13.100 --> 01:19:15.479 people, injuring people, but they got it all 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:18.460 right on vaccines with no oversight. Yeah, I'm 01:19:18.460 --> 01:19:21.279 sure it's fine. Don't worry about it. And then 01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:23.520 you have COVID vax and people still believe, 01:19:23.619 --> 01:19:26.039 no, that's not hurting anybody. No, that's bullshit. 01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:30.439 That's conspiracy theory. We know somebody relatively 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:34.880 close to Chad's age that took the vax and now 01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.140 has that, you know, you know, have something 01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:39.979 to help their heart go. So it's like it happens. 01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:44.619 It happens. Yeah. Are we ready? Are we ready 01:19:44.619 --> 01:19:47.800 for Bob A's world, Chad? Sure. Let's do Bob A's 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:50.590 world. Bobby, come on and unmute yourself, you 01:19:50.590 --> 01:19:57.189 son of a B. What do you mean, son of a B? Gee, 01:19:57.289 --> 01:19:59.729 let me think. Bob, what time does our show start 01:19:59.729 --> 01:20:04.270 every Tuesday? I was in the middle of an Ethereum 01:20:04.270 --> 01:20:07.390 trade, and I couldn't do anything with my internet 01:20:07.390 --> 01:20:10.170 connection. That was the problem. I'm sorry about 01:20:10.170 --> 01:20:13.369 that. No, shit happens. We love you. But can 01:20:13.369 --> 01:20:16.890 you just for... For just in the future, if that 01:20:16.890 --> 01:20:19.270 happens, like go to a neighbor's phone, like 01:20:19.270 --> 01:20:22.909 just so I'm not worrying fucking about what's 01:20:22.909 --> 01:20:28.909 going on. I really love you for that. I wanted 01:20:28.909 --> 01:20:33.409 to talk about a couple of things. Decentralization, 01:20:33.409 --> 01:20:38.090 I think that's the key to like many of our problems. 01:20:38.949 --> 01:20:43.680 The voting problem. pretty much all of our problems 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:47.779 really could be helped with, like, decentralization. 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:51.060 Because when you centralize any kind of authority, 01:20:51.500 --> 01:20:56.100 it's going to end up in the wrong hands. You 01:20:56.100 --> 01:20:59.020 end up being abused, absolutely. For sure. Like, 01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:02.479 absolute power creates absolute corruption, and 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:04.340 that's without a doubt. You know, we've seen 01:21:04.340 --> 01:21:06.739 it throughout history. We've seen it throughout 01:21:06.739 --> 01:21:10.729 history. It's something that will... Definitely 01:21:10.729 --> 01:21:14.109 keep happening. Right. That's something that 01:21:14.109 --> 01:21:17.310 we have to do. We have to change that. That's 01:21:17.310 --> 01:21:19.729 how you get Democrats waving Ukrainian flags 01:21:19.729 --> 01:21:22.449 on the floor of the people's house. Saying, hey, 01:21:22.550 --> 01:21:24.470 give them $60 billion. Fuck what's happening 01:21:24.470 --> 01:21:28.510 here. It is. Yay! It is. Now we're giving them 01:21:28.510 --> 01:21:31.430 another $60 billion. And look at the people here. 01:21:31.569 --> 01:21:33.430 They're just pouring. After the vote, they're 01:21:33.430 --> 01:21:36.069 up there waving their Ukrainian flags. Yay! We're 01:21:36.069 --> 01:21:40.939 so great! Yeah. It's really unbelievable. Decentralized 01:21:40.939 --> 01:21:43.760 currency. Obviously, Bitcoin is the big major 01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:45.779 player, but there's a bunch of them out there. 01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:50.859 Bill Hines has said several times they should 01:21:50.859 --> 01:21:53.720 make voting on the fucking blockchain. Exactly. 01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:58.479 Everyone has a phone. If you don't have a phone, 01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.539 I don't want to tell you, but basically everyone 01:22:00.539 --> 01:22:05.020 has a phone. Exactly. It's foolproof. You're 01:22:05.020 --> 01:22:07.340 not going to be able to fucking... Do fake votes 01:22:07.340 --> 01:22:09.420 and all this shit. You get one vote per phone. 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:13.819 It's connected to you. Boom. On blockchain. But 01:22:13.819 --> 01:22:16.880 that could make a fair and unstealable election, 01:22:17.140 --> 01:22:21.859 Chad. Right. And then, of course, that's probably 01:22:21.859 --> 01:22:25.800 racist to the left. Yeah, right. Because

they'll 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:27.100 be like, black people don't have phones. And 01:22:27.100 --> 01:22:28.340 then they'll go to Harlem and interview black 01:22:28.340 --> 01:22:29.640 people and they'll be like, I have a fucking 01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:30.979 phone. What are you talking about? It's the same 01:22:30.979 --> 01:22:34.710 thing with licenses. It's funny because the poor 01:22:34.710 --> 01:22:38.090 people that they say are poor or whatever, I'm 01:22:38.090 --> 01:22:41.050 not trying to hit on anybody or anything. Trust 01:22:41.050 --> 01:22:46.630 me. They'll have the top -notch phone. They'll 01:22:46.630 --> 01:22:52.489 have a phone with 17 cameras. It's crazy. It's 01:22:52.489 --> 01:22:56.649 so bad. But you'll get liberals. It's like the 01:22:56.649 --> 01:23:00.670 hidden racism of liberals. It's like, well, black 01:23:00.670 --> 01:23:02.590 people can't get licenses, so they can't vote. 01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.279 what the fuck are you talking about? Like, who 01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:09.279 doesn't have a fucking ID? Yeah, it is. It's 01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:13.319 really, they're showing how stupid they are. 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:17.380 And we need to move above that. We definitely 01:23:17.380 --> 01:23:20.739 need to, as a collective, we need to move above 01:23:20.739 --> 01:23:23.220 that. We need to move above that. And it's not 01:23:23.220 --> 01:23:26.000 hard to move above that because the level of 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.510 stupid they're on is like another level. It really 01:23:29.510 --> 01:23:33.750 is. Speaking of levels of stupid, Bobby, I have 01:23:33.750 --> 01:23:37.909 to bust your balls here for a minute. Chad probably 01:23:37.909 --> 01:23:40.689 knows where I'm going with this. Last week or 01:23:40.689 --> 01:23:42.789 the week before, you came on and did a very good 01:23:42.789 --> 01:23:47.930 diatribe about the eclipse with the fear -mongering 01:23:47.930 --> 01:23:49.649 that they were all putting out and all that stuff. 01:23:50.170 --> 01:23:55.329 As Bobby said, nothing happened. Yep. I had to 01:23:55.329 --> 01:23:58.610 go to the fucking dentist that day, people. It 01:23:58.610 --> 01:24:03.050 didn't save you. No, but, but, but Chad immediately 01:24:03.050 --> 01:24:05.369 when we were done, he, we, uh, text to call. 01:24:05.449 --> 01:24:07.050 I don't remember, but he goes, wait a second. 01:24:07.409 --> 01:24:10.149 How is Bobby, uh, talking about the eclipse, 01:24:10.210 --> 01:24:13.250 but he believes in the flat earth. And I was 01:24:13.250 --> 01:24:17.369 like, good fucking question. I was more about, 01:24:17.390 --> 01:24:19.489 I was more asking like how, what are the mechanics 01:24:19.489 --> 01:24:23.859 to you of the eclipse? in within your flatter 01:24:23.859 --> 01:24:26.220 theory theory and i'm i wasn't saying to make 01:24:26.220 --> 01:24:28.220 fun of you i'm i'm asking like what you think 01:24:28.220 --> 01:24:30.619 about that how does

the eclipse work in your 01:24:30.619 --> 01:24:33.520 theory of flatter to be honest with you i don't 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:36.500 think the moon passed the sun i don't think it 01:24:36.500 --> 01:24:39.720 was the moon that passed the sun okay that caused 01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:43.399 that that what we saw i don't think it was Was 01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:47.880 it a satellite? Was it a... I have no idea. It 01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:51.479 could be the sky is a simulation as far as I'm 01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:54.840 concerned. It really could be as far deep as 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:58.899 that. You know, I question, and until I have 01:24:58.899 --> 01:25:01.680 the answer to everything that I look for the 01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:05.100 question, I will continue to question, and I 01:25:05.100 --> 01:25:09.399 will not buy any bullshit that's fed to me. By 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.260 this propaganda, because that's all it is, is 01:25:12.260 --> 01:25:15.520 propaganda, is that they're pushing. Okay, so 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.319 now I think my brain is understanding a little 01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:21.899 bit more. So it's not that you 100 % believe 01:25:21.899 --> 01:25:24.500 that the Earth is flat, but you also don't 100 01:25:24.500 --> 01:25:28.920 % believe it's round, and until you have definitive 01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:32.680 proof of either... Exactly, of course. Okay. 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:38.670 Of course. Cuckoo! No, but I'm with you, dude. 01:25:38.729 --> 01:25:40.390 I get what you're saying. They've fucking lied 01:25:40.390 --> 01:25:44.609 to us for so long that it's like, maybe, but 01:25:44.609 --> 01:25:47.890 I promise you this, Bobby, this is the one thing 01:25:47.890 --> 01:25:52.289 that they got right, you know? And it goes back 01:25:52.289 --> 01:25:55.829 to before there was a U .S. government and fucking 01:25:55.829 --> 01:25:59.210 Galileo, like, you know, he knew what was up 01:25:59.210 --> 01:26:02.199 and all that jazz. Oh, you know what that makes 01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:06.279 me think of? The three -body problem. I'm watching 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:08.000 that right now. I don't know what's going on 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.180 in it yet. I recommend everybody watches that. 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:13.399 It's such a great show. I don't know what's going 01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:16.899 on in it yet, but it's really good. And the books, 01:26:17.100 --> 01:26:20.640 they put it into a show and it's incredible how 01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:23.520 they put it into the show. They really did a 01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:27.220 good job with it. I think I'm on episode three. 01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:31.979 I can't tell. Even in episode three, I can't 01:26:31.979 --> 01:26:33.680 tell exactly what the fuck is happening, but 01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.819 it's a great show. Did you see the ship part 01:26:35.819 --> 01:26:41.520 yet? The ship part? No. Oh, wow. In your mind, 01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:46.840 this is going to

be fucking blown. Is the ship 01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:50.140 part, Bobby? No, the ship. Ship, ship, ship. 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.760 All the ships that we're seeing. Yeah, right? 01:26:54.390 --> 01:26:57.949 Should we have said spoiler alert? That doesn't 01:26:57.949 --> 01:27:00.850 really give any. No, that's not. That's not too 01:27:00.850 --> 01:27:04.329 much. That's not. That's not a spoiler. Because 01:27:04.329 --> 01:27:06.329 Bobby's done this to me before, Chad, where, 01:27:06.430 --> 01:27:08.630 you know, oh, you got to watch this thing. And 01:27:08.630 --> 01:27:10.369 then, you know, we're talking. And then, like, 01:27:10.409 --> 01:27:12.750 before our conversation ends, he divulges, like, 01:27:12.810 --> 01:27:16.810 a real sick twist. You fucking ruined it for 01:27:16.810 --> 01:27:21.869 me, dude. But I don't mind. I love our young 01:27:21.869 --> 01:27:26.899 Bobby. Yeah, so Bob, our guest will be on again. 01:27:27.340 --> 01:27:30.760 We had Lena Hedonist on. You came in during the 01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:33.520 middle of it. Yeah, yeah, she seemed really awesome. 01:27:33.619 --> 01:27:37.539 Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. And the audience 01:27:37.539 --> 01:27:40.539 knows, Chad knows, and I know, and I think you 01:27:40.539 --> 01:27:42.699 know, but we're doing Bob A's World at the end 01:27:42.699 --> 01:27:45.659 of every episode that we can, especially ones 01:27:45.659 --> 01:27:47.359 we have time for, which, you know, we'll try 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.819 to make time for every episode because I love 01:27:49.819 --> 01:27:54.020 your brain, dude. I love your brain. I hate your 01:27:54.020 --> 01:28:01.319 punctuality and your attendance. Bobby, why don't 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.359 you tell the audience where they could go and 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:05.500 check out some of Bobby's world when he's not 01:28:05.500 --> 01:28:08.279 on the gracious to again, your Twitter and whatnot 01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:11.140 or Instagram. You could actually just go to my 01:28:11.140 --> 01:28:15.159 YouTube. Just go to Robert Hayes on YouTube and 01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:18.539 you'll see New York City and you'll see my my 01:28:18.539 --> 01:28:21.680 photo, you know. Yeah, I don't have a problem 01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:24.340 with putting my information out there. They already 01:28:24.340 --> 01:28:28.579 have it. Yeah, exactly. Don't worry. Yeah, for 01:28:28.579 --> 01:28:31.159 real. Before you think too hard, what's your 01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:35.979 social security number? Go. How do you spell 01:28:35.979 --> 01:28:41.199 your last name, Bobby? H -A -Y -E -S. All right. 01:28:43.470 --> 01:28:45.789 I'm going to look you up on YouTube. I think 01:28:45.789 --> 01:28:47.510 I follow you, but I'm going to make sure and 01:28:47.510 --> 01:28:51.609 follow you. Yeah, you're one of my friends. Okay, 01:28:51.649 --> 01:28:53.229 cool. Yeah, well, I was looking. So I put in 01:28:53.229 --> 01:28:54.930 Robert Hayes, and the second thing that comes 01:28:54.930 --> 01:28:59.630 up is Robert Hayes serial killer. On YouTube. 01:28:59.829 --> 01:29:03.029 Like, what the fuck? That's not you. That's my 01:29:03.029 --> 01:29:06.310 alter ego. That's his father, Chad. You just 01:29:06.310 --> 01:29:09.390 outed him. His father is your serial killer. 01:29:11.149 --> 01:29:14.229 No, I'm just kidding. Oh, Chad, I got great stories 01:29:14.229 --> 01:29:17.289 about Bobby's grandmother. I'm going to real 01:29:17.289 --> 01:29:21.550 briefly. Her name was Julie. And I've known Bobby 01:29:21.550 --> 01:29:25.569 since fifth grade. And about seventh grade, we 01:29:25.569 --> 01:29:27.810 started to have some sleepovers at his grandmother's 01:29:27.810 --> 01:29:31.510 house in Carlstead. And she would let us drink. 01:29:31.609 --> 01:29:34.170 She would let us smoke some weed. She was a real 01:29:34.170 --> 01:29:38.600 older lady. She was. She was great. But here's 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.720 the crazy part, Chad, is she also liked her drink. 01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:44.060 You know, she didn't smoke or anything. But so 01:29:44.060 --> 01:29:46.159 at like three o 'clock in the morning, we'd ask 01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:49.680 her to take us to fucking White Castle. And this 01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:53.039 chick was a scary driver, dude. I'm talking like 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:57.079 eyes wiping some mirrors off. Yes, eyes wiping 01:29:57.079 --> 01:30:00.500 mirrors off. Dude, it was crazy. But she's no 01:30:00.500 --> 01:30:01.939 longer with us. But I just wanted to give her 01:30:01.939 --> 01:30:04.460 a shout out because she was a cool lady and showed 01:30:04.460 --> 01:30:06.560 us a lot of love. And we had a lot of fun at 01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:10.989 that house. Absolutely. Yeah, my dad's mom. Oh, 01:30:11.529 --> 01:30:14.010 that sounds like it. My dad's mom was a drinker, 01:30:14.010 --> 01:30:16.869 and we would go there for Christmas every year, 01:30:16.890 --> 01:30:18.810 Christmas Day, after we opened all of our gifts. 01:30:19.210 --> 01:30:22.470 And you didn't know if it was going to be, like, 01:30:22.569 --> 01:30:25.310 if you'd get sweet Grandma Gracie or if you got 01:30:25.310 --> 01:30:27.989 drunk Grandma Gracie, the shit would blow up. 01:30:28.010 --> 01:30:30.229 The whole house would go fucking nuts. And there 01:30:30.229 --> 01:30:32.840 were many years where... Like, my brother and 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:35.060 I were ushered out by my mom and dad, like, okay, 01:30:35.079 --> 01:30:37.500 time to go. Close your eyes, earmuffs. It was 01:30:37.500 --> 01:30:40.579 going off, man. It's crazy how they ushered in 01:30:40.579 --> 01:30:43.699 alcohol and they took weed away because weed 01:30:43.699 --> 01:30:47.500 would have been such a better thing for society 01:30:47.500 --> 01:30:51.520 to have for the past 70 years instead of alcohol. 01:30:51.699 --> 01:30:56.420 It's so crazy. They made a whole world of

monsters, 01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:58.920 really. Well, you know why, Bobby, right? Because 01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:02.819 alcohol is actually a poison to your body, and 01:31:02.819 --> 01:31:06.800 the herbal marijuana that grows from the ground 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:09.880 is actually a medicinal healing property. Exactly, 01:31:10.020 --> 01:31:13.239 yeah. So that's why. It wasn't no big conspiracy. 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.239 They don't want you. functioning on all levels 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.500 they don't want you doing things that can lower 01:31:18.500 --> 01:31:21.720 stress and make you a free thinker they want 01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:24.500 you to put some poison in your body become addicted 01:31:24.500 --> 01:31:27.460 to it and then just go through life and do the 01:31:27.460 --> 01:31:30.640 motions and absolutely little fucking whatever 01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:35.250 you already know it And with that, folks, the 01:31:35.250 --> 01:31:38.710 gracious to Mr. Jack Gracie and myself would 01:31:38.710 --> 01:31:41.869 like to bid you guys a do. We will see you again 01:31:41.869 --> 01:31:44.449 soon. We'll be doing another Instagram live only. 01:31:44.510 --> 01:31:47.109 You guys see how we do it now. I think we kind 01:31:47.109 --> 01:31:49.649 of go on and post a couple hours before we do 01:31:49.649 --> 01:31:53.010 it to kind of let you know. And it's a fun. I 01:31:53.010 --> 01:31:54.890 got to start posting before we go on. I keep 01:31:54.890 --> 01:31:57.420 forgetting. I'm just ready to go. but I kind 01:31:57.420 --> 01:31:59.319 of like the way it is happening. Like the people 01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:01.939 who were in the know or just see the live notification, 01:32:02.060 --> 01:32:04.439 they come on, they chat with us and we never 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.399 know who we're going to get. We never know what 01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:09.579 questions are going to be asked. Yeah. Bill told 01:32:09.579 --> 01:32:11.920 me that you can have up to like 10 people on 01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.460 the, on the, on the cast. So we'll let it, we'll 01:32:15.460 --> 01:32:18.159 let it, if more people want to come on next time, 01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:20.640 just let us know. Now we know you can let in 01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:22.680 fucking up to 10 people. So great. Let's have 01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:26.039 a party chat. Hell yeah. We might be all fumbling 01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:28.560 over each other, but who cares? It's a fun show. 01:32:29.500 --> 01:32:32.500 Go check out Chad's YouTube page. A lot of great 01:32:32.500 --> 01:32:36.859 videos on there. And again, follow us everywhere 01:32:36.859 --> 01:32:39.979 you can. Please like, share, and follow. We appreciate 01:32:39.979 --> 01:32:43.539 you guys out there with us. We love you for taking 01:32:43.539 --> 01:32:45.720 this journey with us. A lot of cool shit coming 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:51.680 up. And what else? I think that's it for me. 01:32:52.039 --> 01:32:56.159 Show 34 in the can. Three and four is seven. 01:32:57.039 --> 01:32:59.939 What was it? Three and four is seven. That's 01:32:59.939 --> 01:33:01.899 a lucky number. That's right. That's a lucky 01:33:01.899 --> 01:33:04.800 number. All right. Later, ladies and gentlemen. 01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:07.239 I'm going to stop this and then just hold on, 01:33:07.340 --> 01:33:09.119 guys. Bye.