บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Talking Golf 07-07-25

they called it a trap draw, right is. 36 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:08.159 Knock it down, turning in. It's a drill that we 37 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:10.879 had with Steve. It's what he'll do when he's choking 38 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.960 to death, That's what he'll do. What's the coach's name? 39 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.120 Take you back a little bit to the AMFAM tournament. 40 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.360 This is right here, Dennis. Can we go to the 41 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:23.039 John Deere Classic. Apparently there's a new person running it. 42 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:27.800 They'll be there at least through I think it's twenty thirty. 43 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:31.039 So there was some thought at one point that that 44 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:32.759 tournament may not exist anymore. 45 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:34.719 I didn't know that John Deere's that's. 46 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:36.840 The point they said they were making the commitment to 47 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:38.520 the community, or yeah, you. 48 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.520 Know, we're good through that. Where are you going to 49 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.719 find a guy that's gonna like they do? I don't 50 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.520 know what you come up with three million bucks just 51 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.199 to have the event. Plus everybody comes there for a while. 52 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.479 It's got a great history. They do get some good 53 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:55.039 players there. It's a great community project, you know, no 54 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.639 different than here. The big winner here was Children's Hospital. 55 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:00.120 That's why we did it. 56 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:03.039 How about the concern of the condition of the golf course. 57 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:05.000 It looked a little rough down there, didn't it. 58 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.759 Well, you know you know how ours turned out here 59 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.319 after we got done. We tried to maintain it the 60 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.560 same way we did for the tournament, and with one 61 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.800 hundred degree temperature and that short cutting and stuff like that, 62 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.639 we experienced the same thing. Now we rally. Do we 63 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.520 did it right, but now next year we will do 64 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:28.280 the erification and that process to get it back right 65 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.199 away the week after the week after the turn. Yeah, 66 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.400 and it will not be cut at twelve or thirteen 67 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.840 for a tim stimspeed do otherwise you lose it, so 68 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.080 you have to really really be on it. But you 69 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:40.879 could see that it was stressed. 70 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.800 So let me ask you about there was an amateur 71 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.479 that won on the English and English golfer

Lottie Woade, 72 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.280 twenty one years old, won the Irish Open by six 73 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:54.520 shots over Madeleine Seikstrom, who we're going to have on 74 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.879 a show here right in the next couple of weeks. 75 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:57.080 Yeah. 76 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.240 Yeah, she had done some work here in practice. Here 77 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:04.199 she's the English golfer A Lottie Woad twenty one years 78 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.240 old that won as an amateur is the first in 79 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.039 three years as an amateur on the men's side of 80 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.199 the PGA Tour. The last amateur was Nick Dunlop. He 81 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:14.960 won in January twenty twenty four in the American Express. 82 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.120 Prior to him, the last am was Phil Mickelson back 83 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:22.079 in nineteen ninety one. Are the days of Amateurs? I 84 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:24.360 asked the question and I just said Nick Dunlop won 85 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.120 last year. But are the days of amateurs competing in 86 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:32.439 and winning tour events? Is that day come and gone? 87 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.079 It was more common in your era. 88 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:40.079 No, no such thing as an amateur. Okay, if you 89 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.480 take golf balls or bags or now they raise the 90 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.879 rates so you can take so much. So it's always 91 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:46.480 a compromise. 92 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:46.680 Ure. 93 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.319 What's going on? But what's going on in this amateur thing? 94 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.600 I mean I just had a We just had a 95 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:58.360 young lady play here today. She shut six under amateur player. 96 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.720 You know, I look at and we just had this 97 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.800 one fellow, my Larry teach him, trying to think of 98 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:07.199 his name, and they played an event someplace up here 99 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.399 in Milwaukee. And this guy was supposed to be a 100 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.319 good player, good pro. This guy beat him by six shots, 101 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:17.920 this amateur. So you've got these young guys that they 102 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:23.240 are conditioned and that's all they do is play golf. Sure, 103 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.040 you know, really, is there such a thing as an amateur? Yeah? 104 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.879 Other than not taking the purse, right, that's the difference 105 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.160 is they're not taking the wine. 106 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.120 They give first, so they give the purse to their 107 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.639 uncle or give the purse to somebody else. You know 108 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.759 that stuff has gone on forever. And I told you 109 00:05:37.839 -->

00:05:39.759 the story about this one kid that I tried to 110 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:44.199 recruit from up in Painsville, Ohio, and one of the 111 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.240 players on my team was from that same high school. 112 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.560 So when we were at Ohio State, I went up 113 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.480 to recruit him and we got in the car after 114 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.040 we got all done, he says, Coach, that guy really 115 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.279 liked you. He's you know. I said, well, then he'll 116 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.759 come to Wisconsin. No, I don't think so. He got 117 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:03.199 ten thousand dollars in the shoe from Oklahoma State. So 118 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.600 this stuff is going on well forever. You know that 119 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.879 shouldn't even know about. How do some of these people 120 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.199 out there wind up with a brand new John Dee tractor? 121 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.519 What do you think? Sure, two three hundred thousand dollars 122 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:14.680 and a guy can afford come out. 123 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:16.399 Okay, I want to go back to a previous part 124 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.199 of the conversation on Mike Small. 125 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:19.000 No, I don't want to leave that. 126 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:20.360 I'm just saying I want to go back to a 127 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:24.000 previous conversation. What makes a good golf coach? You did it, 128 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.040 and you had success for a bunch of years here 129 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:27.279 at the University of Wisconsin. 130 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:27.600 Wow. 131 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.920 And some would look at it as teaching, but I 132 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.079 have a feeling that you might look at it as 133 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:34.040 a combination of a number of things. 134 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.519 What makes for a good college golf coach. 135 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.120 After you get going, of course you'll recruit some people here. 136 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:43.120 But now he's really dedicated this. Now he wins. People 137 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:44.720 want to be part of a winning team, and the 138 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:49.600 biggest recruiter that you have is a player from your team. Sure, 139 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.680 and that's what he's got going. He's got that momentum going, 140 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:54.720 you know. I know we use the Steve a little 141 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.240 bit as being there and that sort of stuff, but 142 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.079 you know, there's a trust that has to exist between 143 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.839 the coach and the player. It takes seems like it 144 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.360 takes forever to get that takes you two seconds to 145 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.480 lose it. Just do something funky, especially on the on 146 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.759 the women's end. So and then and then production. Now, 147 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.319 the other part is is that he has a very 148 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:20.680 regimented go ahead. He's training people to go on to 149 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.240 the tour or another. So he has a very disciplined, 150 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.959 uh workout program six seven o'clock in the morning. And 151 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:32.720 then there's so much this and this golf is number one. Yeah, 152 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:34.759 we were a little bit different here. 153 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.319 You know, Yeah, because you coach both the men and 154 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:37.759 the women. 155 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.720 Yeah, yeah, there's a whole different story, two different There 156 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:44.839 are two different types of people, sure way too. The 157 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:50.959 women are so much better for some more supple, better concentration, better, uh, 158 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.560 better at everything except hand strength. So what we did 159 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:56.199 is we got the hand strength. You know, get the 160 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.639 get the racket ball with the string and it put 161 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.839 it on the just put it on their screen. Direction, 162 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.160 grip pressure, yeah right, and squeeze that. So you know, 163 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.399 but in his particular case, one, he can beat every 164 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.639 He's a good player, that's number one. So when he 165 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.399 walks out there and he starts talking about things, he 166 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.240 can play the game. And that's no different than when 167 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.279 I played with these guys or they were good, but 168 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.480 I didn't understand how you could shoot so high. We'd 169 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.399 go to Ohio State, I use their club and never 170 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:27.240 hit a driver, shoot seventy and beat everyone. Yeah, all 171 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.800 of a sudden, they get the idea about playing golf 172 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:30.879 versus hit. 173 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.919 You can do it, and they understand your acumen in 174 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.919 the game because that's different than other sports, right, I mean, 175 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.600 if you're a great basketball coach, doesn't mean that you 176 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:43.360 have to have played or I look at Kelly Sheffield, 177 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:47.480 the University of Wisconsin women's volleyball coach. Some people don't 178 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:51.159 know this. He never played, never played the game, and 179 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.080 learned to be a coach. And I always think this 180 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.000 about great coaches, whether it was Dick Bennett or Bo 181 00:08:56.159 -->

00:08:59.919 Ryan or Kelly Sheffield. In this case, Mark Johnson could 182 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.360 coach anything. I think a really good coach can coach 183 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:06.559 any sport. But in golf maybe it's a little bit 184 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:07.559 different because. 185 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.320 The coach in Indiana a good one. Oh he was 186 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:12.279 a six man on a team. 187 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.399 He never didn't start. 188 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:15.200 What about that. 189 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.279 Yeah, So there's things that they have and things that 190 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.840 they can do to produce the winner. They know what 191 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:23.679 has to be done, even though they couldn't do it, 192 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.039 you know, and my case, obviously we could do it. 193 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:29.919 They listen to what we have to say that they 194 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:32.200 can listen to anybody else, but Dallas, you know, come 195 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:33.799 back to what's what's going on here? 196 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:34.840 But you got to win. 197 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.399 Sure, that's what the deal is, that you gotta win 198 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.679 the way you coached in the days when you coach 199 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.919 the men and the women, with today's athlete would that 200 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.440 work today, that style of coaching or is there a difference. 201 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.919 No, they're all over here. I mean I got some 202 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:52.960 of the same guys here. This is where they come 203 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.480 because of what you know over time now about golf. 204 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.759 But you know, the disciplines are there. I look at 205 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.639 some of the guys here that come here that are 206 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.480 from Wisconsin now that are going to other places. People 207 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.240 who shoot, you know, fifty nine seventeen years old. I 208 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:15.600 mean really, well we have. We've had him since ninth grade. 209 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:19.840 He doesn't know any other way, but the good fundamentals. Yeah, 210 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.759 he doesn't know nothing else. I just saw him again today, 211 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.000 is you know, he doesn't know any other way to 212 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:26.799 hold it or any other way to make roofs. So 213 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.320 all of a sudden they get bigger. Now. What I 214 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:34.080 did notice, however, is the players burn out faster today. 215 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:37.879 Sure, you know, is that because of the how far 216 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.960 they're hitting the ball and the type of swing they have, 217 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:41.320 and then. 218 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:42.399 How much they have to play. 219

00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.320 That's it. How much they're competing. They're off and running 220 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.879 and you know, I don't know, this is not this 221 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.039 is not worth it. The other side is these kids 222 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:56.879 are graduating from from school with you know, potential high 223 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.320 paying jobs. Wait a minute, now, I'm going to go 224 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:01.639 over here and try to compete golf wise. So I'll 225 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.639 do this for a while, get this on my resume, 226 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.639 and then from the women's end, by the time they're 227 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:11.159 thirty thirty one, that maternal instinct takes over and they're 228 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.440 going to do something else. I look at them and 229 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:15.679 some of the foreign players when they get to be 230 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.679 twenty two, twenty three years old, they're done. Yeah, because 231 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:19.879 they've been doing this stuff. 232 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.480 We've see teenager you sports all over the place now 233 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:27.399 because of sports specialization, that's it they get. They get 234 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:31.759 burnt out earlier in sometimes it's late teens or early twenties. 235 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:33.320 But either way, all right, so this makes me a 236 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.799 little nervous. But I'm gonna ask you anyway. You brought 237 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:38.879 up Bobby Knight. Yeah, you got any story time on 238 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.799 Bobby Knight. I'm sure that your paths crossed because Bobby, 239 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.919 although you like to fish and hunt more, he did 240 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:47.840 like to be around a golf course. 241 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:50.799 I have a lot of them, Okay, because we've done 242 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.559 it well, can I went, I don't know. I went 243 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.320 to watch him. You know that he liked to hunt. Yeah, 244 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:59.200 and He did a lot of hunting with my friends 245 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.720 Jim Elmer, Lemon Okay, and remember when he got shot 246 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.559 and then when he came to the university out to 247 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:10.159 the fieldhouse, they were all dressed in orange. That's him 248 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.840 or my good friend the coach at the same time, 249 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.240 Sam Carmichael was his coach. Yeah, and he was telling 250 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.360 me about give it because he would teach Bob Knight. 251 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.279 So they got in a sand trap. Bob Knight got 252 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.320 in a sand trap and never stopped talking. He did 253 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.559 all the coaching, but then he would turn around and 254 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.440 he would give Sam, I don't know, fifty thousand for 255 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:33.879 a Christmas pressure every Christmas, right. 256 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.159 I've seen there's a YouTube video that's out there of 257 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.679 Bobby Knight for his TV show hitting trying to hit 258 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:40.399 a bunker shot. 259 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:42.399 Oh, he's funny, He's terrible. 260 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.159 They're all the outtakes. Oh you know of him, you know, 261 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:47.799 swearing and doing all the stuff. 262 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.840 You're not So you went to watch him play when 263 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:55.000 he was coaching the Olympic team. Sure, And so I 264 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:59.240 was standing there and there's two of us, Doug Balman 265 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.840 and I. Doug was and assistant was standing there and 266 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:03.080 he was out on the floor, and all of a 267 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.279 sudden he looks up. He says, who are those guys 268 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.480 way up there? And I just waved at him. So 269 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.080 he went on and then all of a sudden he 270 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.080 was turning. You know, he was had one leg crossed. 271 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.440 He was watching the basketball. So all of a sudden 272 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:18.960 he got up and he went out to the referee 273 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.039 because they had referees when they were doing that, and 274 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:23.320 he grabbed the referee's hand and he kept slapping his hand. 275 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:27.519 He said, this is a fuzzle. And then I was 276 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.799 trying to think of the big time center. Uh, he's 277 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.039 on TV all the time. 278 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.559 Well Bill Walton, who passed away. You're looking at somebody 279 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.039 thinking it's very popular guy. 280 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:41.840 He's out a big, big center of and oh come on, shack, 281 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:43.159 uh shack. 282 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:47.120 No, okay, a little older okay. 283 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.159 Anyway, he was sitting in a chair with his leg crossed, 284 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.759 watching the game. And I saw this guy coming out 285 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.320 of the locker room walking walk and walk away and 286 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:59.039 sat down and right next to Night he was talking 287 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.679 and all of the Sunday says, what the hell are 288 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:04.320 you talking about? Get out of here, and he kicked 289 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:08.879 them out. He's that way, you know, no doubt. 290 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.120 Do you want to hear another Bobby Knight's story, I've 291 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:14.879 got here, yeah, oh boy. Nineteen eighty three or nineteen 292

00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:18.480 eighty four, when I was on Channel fifteen, Indiana was 293 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.559 coming to town to play basketball. We worked at their 294 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:24.799 sid and set up an interview at the fieldhouse the 295 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.679 day they were practicing before the game. Yes, ID sports 296 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:32.519 information director said, you, guys, the camera guy go into 297 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.080 the building, go to the opposite end where they're shooting 298 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.919 free throws, set up, and then go back out of 299 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:39.200 the building and we'll come and get you. 300 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:40.039 Yeah. 301 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.679 So we set up, and then he came out and 302 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:45.840 he got us. And we're sitting there, two chairs, one 303 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.919 in each direction, and Bobby Knight's at the free throw 304 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:50.639 line watching his guys shoot. 305 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:53.200 Bartes Yeah, looks. 306 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.000 Over and glances a couple of times, and all of 307 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.080 a sudden, he comes and he sits down in the 308 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:01.960 chair opposite me. Yeah, And he looked at me and 309 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.600 he says, what the hell does a guy your size 310 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:05.799 and above basketball? 311 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:09.480 That was his opening line. 312 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.600 That was it, huh. But he stayed and he did 313 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:12.879 the end. 314 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:14.919 I folded like a cheap suit. 315 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:18.480 Oh. I asked about three or four questions and the 316 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.960 interview was over. Now twenty years later he'd got a 317 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:22.720 different answer. 318 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:23.279 Oh yeah. 319 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.200 The sid said he was actually in a very good 320 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.799 move and he was challenging you, and he said, if 321 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:30.720 you would have responded, he may have sat there for 322 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.600 a half all sure. 323 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.480 Yeah, he was I think toughness like toughness there. He 324 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:36.440 enjoyed it when people stood it. 325 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:38.440 He just caught me right. 326 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.480 Well, not too many years later, and then we'll take 327 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.440 a break because Gary Demato was coming up next. Not 328 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:45.679 too many years later. I did the same thing, but 329 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.440 it was in a group interview at the Fieldhouse. Yeah, 330 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:53.600 and a mutual at the time. Van Stout had asked 331 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.120 maybe the second question, and that was the end

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Newer used club shoes, bags, cart's apparel, ball. 398 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:18.880 You name it and they got it. Isn't that right, Joel? 399 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.160 Your game, your store always at the best price. 400 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:29.880 Back with you, It is Talking Golf, Mike Heller, Paul Brown, 401 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:32.799 Dennis Dizziani, and we welcome in Gary Demato, who is 402 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.480 a regular on this program. 403 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:36.440 You're lucky to have him, Happy to have you on. 404 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:36.880 Board with us. 405 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:38.880 You know, Gary, I was talking earlier on the show 406 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:43.079 about the English golfer Lottie Woade, who won on the 407 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:45.839 European Ladies Tour. She's twenty one years old and she 408 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.200 won as an amateur. What I failed to mention is 409 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:51.839 that the last or not the last, but one of 410 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.240 the great stories of an amateur was Lydia Coe who 411 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.920 won in twenty twelve on the LPGA Tour. She was 412 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.279 only fifteen year od old, and she went again in 413 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.039 twenty thirteen when she was sixteen. I just wonder in 414 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:07.799 the Times that you have covered the sport, the young 415 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:09.640 amateurs that you've covered. 416 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:12.119 Who are some of those maybe that stood out? 417 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.880 And we were talking earlier about amateurs not winning on 418 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.720 the PGA Tour, but Nick Dunlop did a year ago 419 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.240 in the American Express, and the last one was Phil 420 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:23.240 Mickelson prior to that in nineteen ninety one. 421 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:28.359 Yeah, I remember Lydia. I remember Lydia Cole very well. 422 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.759 When she came to a Black bol Front in twenty 423 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.000 twelve for the US Women's Opened. She was I'm not 424 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:35.960 sure at that point if she had won already or 425 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.839 if she was going to win later in the season, 426 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.839 but I interviewed her there because she was sort of 427 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:43.559 a sensation. She had, you know, come to America from 428 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:47.599 her native country of New Zealand, and you know, had 429 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:50.480 the big glasses on and just a precocist, you know, 430 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:54.240 young teenager who would go on to set the LPGA 431 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.039 tour on fire basically, and you know it's still playing 432 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.400 well all these years later. You know, the one person 433 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.799 I thought, you know, was going to

make it for sure, 434 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.119 and I know Dennis worked with him for a while 435 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:10.480 was Jordan Kniebrugi from Mekwan, who had that twenty thirteen 436 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:13.839 season when he basically went everything he entered, and you know, 437 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.000 a couple of years later he finished tied for sixth 438 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.680 in the British Open. And I'm kind of surprised that 439 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.039 we haven't seen his name you know on the PGA 440 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:23.000 tour by now. 441 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.240 Boy, are you waiting for a comment, Well, I'm just 442 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:29.599 curious we've had. 443 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:34.559 He was a very discussions, very exceptional player, and you know, 444 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:38.799 we spent a lot of time together and he did 445 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:44.759 everything right. He was common and dominated by his dad. 446 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:47.720 You get a guy like that, somehow or other, he's 447 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.119 going to take off. And of course then he got 448 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:51.920 a girlfriend and stuff. But even still he played really good. 449 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.599 In fact, I asked him, I told you know, I'll 450 00:21:55.640 --> 00:22:01.039 continue doing this, but you have to finish school. Oklahoma State. 451 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.359 You have to finish school. And he looked at me 452 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.880 and he says, not if I win the Open. That 453 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.599 was just before he went out play in the open. 454 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:11.599 Not if I win the open. It wasn't going to 455 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:14.319 finish school. But he's right about that. But I think 456 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:17.200 that you'll hear about him again. He'll come to his 457 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:20.240 senses before too long. Yeah, And uh, I think he 458 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:23.599 moved back. I think he moved back to he moved 459 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:25.759 back to Milwaukee. He's with some other guy. 460 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:29.720 Wasn't he with Marquette? Didn't he start coaching Gary with 461 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:32.000 Marquette or did he volunteer for a while. 462 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.559 He might have but he was with some other guy 463 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.200 because they wanted to have some kind of a tour, 464 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:40.880 which is like a third leg tour. Sure, and do 465 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.759 that here in Wisconsin. So he still has that drive 466 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:45.440 to do. But you'll hear about him again. 467 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.680 Gary, let me let me revisit a topic that we've 468 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:50.799 talked about a couple of times. But as we get 469 00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:54.319 deeper now than the final major championship of the season 470 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.720 will be the Open at Royal Portrush a week and 471 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.960 a half from now, but we're also then going to 472 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.279 inch up on the Ryder Cup, and there's been no 473 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.720 resolution or no conversation from Keegan Bradley as to what 474 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:11.319 he will do. He is currently ninth in the point standings. 475 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:14.759 The top six make it automatically and then after that 476 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:16.240 you get captain's selections. 477 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.039 Has your opinion on this changed at all? 478 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.799 And don't you think at some leve at some point 479 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.839 Keegan Bradley ought to make some proclamation or an announcement 480 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.319 that he will or will not make himself eligible as 481 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.119 a potential playing captain. 482 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:35.519 Well, yeah, I think he does have to say something 483 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.480 about that pretty quickly here. I mean, the Ryder Cup's coming, 484 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.599 you know, fairly two months away at this point, So yeah, 485 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:43.680 I think he should make some sort of announcement soon. 486 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:47.920 In my opinion, hasn't changed love. I love Keegan's you know, 487 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.440 spirit and his passion as it relates, especially for the 488 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.839 Ryder Cup. But I don't in my opinion, just my opinion, 489 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:58.279 I don't think he should be a playing captain. I 490 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:01.759 think it's there's too many things that do now for 491 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:03.880 the captain, and I know he's got assistance that can 492 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.160 help with everything, but it's such a pressure laden spot 493 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.599 and should they go over there and get hammered and 494 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.880 he plays, you know, what's the what's the story going 495 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.680 to be? You know, he shouldn't have been playing captain. 496 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:17.720 It cost them, you know, the Ryder Cup. That's what 497 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.440 the That's what the story is going to be. So 498 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:21.480 I think he should stick to just being a captain 499 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:22.079 in my opinion. 500 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.279 By the way, that the top six right now are 501 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:28.720 Scottie Scheffler, Xander Softley, JJ Spawn Russell Henley, Bryce and De'shambo. 502 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.079 Justin Thomas did any issue with Deshamba being on the 503 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:33.799 US Ryder Cup team. 504 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.279 Well, you know, I don't have really an issue for 505 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.640 all those guys because it's

golf, and I could really 506 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.559 care less. All I know is that there were things 507 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:43.880 done behind the scenes that had nothing to do with 508 00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:47.319 anything except for the money. Yeah, you know there. You know, 509 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.720 I think people you know will continue to watch golf, 510 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:53.799 but I'm having a hard time watching it. I don't 511 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:55.799 know half of the people that's on there, sure, so 512 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.680 it's hard to do that. Yet, when I look at 513 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:02.039 the scores, holy man, they're better than what they were before. Sure. 514 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.000 Now back on that amage, let me mention about that 515 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:08.039 ah amter thing is that it's such a closed shop, 516 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.400 the PGA tour. Yeah, all those tours are such closed 517 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.079 shops that it's difficult other than by invitation to get in. 518 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:20.759 If there was more of an open qualifying that these 519 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.799 diamateurs could play in. Because they're playing all the time, 520 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:27.720 a lot of them don't have family commitments. Money's not 521 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:31.480 the object. Hey wow, Yeah, so you know there'd be 522 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:31.880 more of that. 523 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.039 Gary, let me ask you a question, Tis, I would 524 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:35.799 love to get your thoughts on this as well. Gary, 525 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.680 you brought up off the air, he said, let's maybe 526 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.559 talk about the new private club that's going to be 527 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:45.000 built in ashepin, this industry has gone back and forth. 528 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.880 There was a golf boom in the late nineteen eighties, 529 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.759 early nineteen nineties, and then the game's suppressed. I mean 530 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.480 maybe they overbuilt. And now we seem gary to be 531 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.920 in an era in which we're seeing again the more 532 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:02.920 explosion in golf development. We see all of the work 533 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:06.200 done at Sand Valley, and now there's that new private 534 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.960 club near Ashappen that Karl Meyer is involved with. 535 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:10.119 Tell me what you know about that? 536 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.519 Well, yeah, actually, yeah, Carl Meyer, that was a different story, 537 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:20.839 but okay, yeah, but who's involved in that? In this 538 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.720 private club that's being proposed for Ashappen. The course will 539 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.559 be called Kettle Forge. It'll be a private club, and 540 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.079 the principals are Bill Koobley. He's a Monroe native. Not 541 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.960 sure if Dennis might know him, but he runs Landscapes Unlimited, 542 00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:39.839 the biggest golf course developer and construction company in the 543 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:43.440 world basically. And Bill came back and was working with 544 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.160 Bob Lang on Bob Lang's project to try to build 545 00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:50.319 a public course in town of Summit and wound up 546 00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:53.680 having some philosophical differences with Bob and broke off and 547 00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.319 found some different land near Ashapin and Brett Craig, who 548 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.799 former president of Transitions out to a guy who lives 549 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.039 in Delafield. Those two guys, Koobley and Brett Craig are 550 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.279 going to develop this high high, high end private club 551 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:12.039 near Ashipin. They're having a guy named Scott Hoffman. She'll 552 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.519 be the lead architect. But and maybe they'll want to 553 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.559 ask Steve about this when he comes on. They brought 554 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.759 in Steve Stricker as a player consultant. So I don't 555 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:22.519 know where all the money's coming from to build all 556 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:24.519 these golf courses, but it seems to be out there. 557 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.079 Just let me ask you, then, is the golf course 558 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:33.039 like these things that we're talking about. Is it economy driven? 559 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.519 Is it the growth of this game, the combination of 560 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.039 those It's. 561 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.480 Real estate around it to sell the real estate around it. 562 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.200 Then the out, because there has to be an out. 563 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.400 The out is then you sell the course to the membership. 564 00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:47.599 Sure, that's the out. 565 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.799 But in the meantime we have the person doing here 566 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.799 doing what's the name of our course here? 567 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:55.119 TPC Wisconsin. 568 00:27:55.240 --> 00:28:00.200 No, No, the business overhead Hawks Landing. Oh sure you're 569 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.359 going to build another course now? 570 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:01.960 Okay? 571 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:07.400 Out further west cross plaines out that area. And you know, 572 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.519 so it's on so many but now it's six hundred lots. 573 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:11.480 Well that's the. 574 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:12.960 I sell the lotside. 575 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.240 That's right the home site. So a lot of these 576 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.200 guys are developers. You know. You take a look at 577 00:28:18.200

--> 00:28:22.599 the courses in Madison, Wisconsin. How many of these courses 578 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.079 are moved by lots. 579 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.759 Sure, well all of them. 580 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.880 When you talk about Bishops and Bergamont and all of 581 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.119 the outer you know, Okay, it happened years ago about. 582 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.559 Old time courses. That happens. So that's the thing of 583 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.119 getting people involved. They're going to build this course, this 584 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.519 ultra private course now that's near Milwaukee that this course 585 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.079 is talking about. I think there's any private courses in Milwaukee, Dennis. 586 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.880 Do you see Steve doing things like that and in 587 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.480 a role like that where he's a player consultant. I 588 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.799 think that he's going to be asked about it because 589 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.279 he has that vision, that good thing. That's why we 590 00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.599 had him here to give us some things. And some 591 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.960 of the two weeks that he made really superseded that 592 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.640 business of the developer that we had who does courses 593 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.920 all over the world. So he's really good at what 594 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.640 he does. You know the fact that you know, they 595 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.640 get onto somebody like him, that's strictly a play for his. 596 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:20.759 Connection, right, Yeah, and that's okay. I mean, I think 597 00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.599 it's great that he has that opportunity to look towards 598 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.720 something like that, that's something that interests him. 599 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.960 Gary, let me I'm sorry, Paul, Gary, let me see 600 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.480 you up on the Karl Meyer because I misunderstood your text. 601 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.359 But to fill me in on what that storyline is. 602 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.920 Yeah, you know, there's a lot of great charitable causes 603 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.480 and events that happen in golf. We all know how 604 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.359 much money golf hrases for charity, not only on the 605 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.640 tour levels, but you know, you go down to the 606 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.359 all the mom and pop courses around the state and 607 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.839 around the nation really have charitable events, you know, on 608 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.599 their calendar, dominating the summer calendar. But a guy named 609 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.240 Karl Meyer plays Tunika Country Club on the fourth of 610 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.720 July every year. He's done it for eighteen straight years. 611 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.519 He plays one hundred holes. He's a member there. He's 612 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.519 off at you know, at dawn, play's till dusk, plays 613 00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:13.559 one hundred holes and single handedly raises money for a 614 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.720 charity called Higher Heroes USA, which places military veterans and 615 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:22.039 their spouses, helps them gain employment after their military services done, 616 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.079 prepares them for civilian jobs. And Carrol did it again 617 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.640 this past fourth of July, and over the eighteen years 618 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.319 he's raised all by himself one point nine million dollars 619 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.000 for Higher Heroes UF. I think's just phenomenal story, isn't it? 620 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.640 Oh? My god? Really, it is incredible. 621 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:41.839 We've talked to we just talked a week ago or 622 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.640 so about how this game is a great giveback game. 623 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:46.559 We're doing it with Derek a week ago. 624 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.440 Yeah, woy, what an incredible story. And you have that 625 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.680 in at Wisconsin Dot Golf. Did you guys put something 626 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:54.359 together there here? 627 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.799 Yeah, it's in my sweet Spot column which posts on 628 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.960 Mondays and posted earlier today on our our website, along 629 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.400 with the story I did on Kettle Forge the new 630 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:04.079 private club. 631 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.960 Sure Gary, have you ever covered the Open in all 632 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.440 of your years of coverage of golf? And if you did, 633 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:12.519 what was that experience? 634 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.400 Like I did? I covered the Open twice back when 635 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.240 I was at the Journal Sentinel and the paper was 636 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:19.319 spending money. 637 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.720 Hand over fit years ago. 638 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.440 Years ago. I covered two thousand and four at Troon 639 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.400 where Todd Hamilton won, and then the next year five 640 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:34.480 Nicholas's last Open championship and the one that Tiger Woods 641 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:39.839 won in that great season he had in five at 642 00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.720 that was at the Old Course. And what I remember 643 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.119 about the Royal suon was Skip Kendall, our good buddy. 644 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.039 Skip Kennel from Fox Point was I think either in 645 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.319 the lead or the co leader for thirty six holes, 646 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.559 and I thought, man, the Journal Center finally sends me 647 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.359 an Open championship, and Skip Kendl was gonna win. But 648

00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.519 he did not hold on the wind. He had a greed. 649 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.680 I think he finished like in the top fisteena that 650 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.759 one of his better, one of his better major championship finishes. 651 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.680 You have fun times over there, good stuff, Gary Dematto. 652 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.759 We always appreciate the time to spend with us. I 653 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:14.200 hope the rest of the week is great and we'll 654 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.319 look forward to visiting again next Thanks so much, Keke. 655 00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.880 Gary Demotto joins us weekly on the program. We got 656 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.559 a little lesson conversation. 657 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:23.160 When we come back. 658 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.519 We're going to talk about what you do when you 659 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.720 go to the range. Now that seems like an open 660 00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:27.480 ended question. 661 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.200 However, there is. 662 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.920 A plan that you have to have, and we'll we'll 663 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.680 dive into what the guy next to us understands about 664 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.680 having a plan when you go to practice. You have 665 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.880 a plan when you practice everything else. Why wouldn't you 666 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.599 when it comes to golf. We'll visit on that conversation 667 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.920 when we come back talking golf at TPC Wisconsin. 668 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.920 Thank you Wisconsin for supporting the twenty twenty five American 669 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.319 Family Insurance Championship. This year's events debut a new team 670 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.279 competition and a new location at TPC Wisconsin. Congratulations to 671 00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.680 the winning team of Darren Clark and Thomas Bjorn. The 672 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.480 pair shot thirty two under over the fifty four whole event, 673 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.119 securing the team title with a final round score of 674 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.039 seven under sixty four. Mark your calendars for the twenty 675 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.720 twenty six American Family Insurance Championship, which returns to TPC 676 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.480 Wisconsin June fifth through the seventh. Stay up today on 677 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.519 all things amfamchamp at AMFAM Championship dot com. 678 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.319 Sculpted by glaciers, played by champions. The University of Wisconsin 679 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.079 Golf Course University Ridge is open for play and awaiting 680 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.119 your arrival with more tea times open in twenty twenty five, 681 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.000 you can reserve your next round directly at University Ridge 682 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.720 dot com. Not enough time for golf? Enjoy

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Keller for Lombardi Lemanada. You know 717 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.079 this is my time of year, hitting the links, grilling out, boating. 718 00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:30.760 Better weather means Lombardi time. Lombardi Lemonada an Italian inspired 719 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.239 hard lemonade, locally owned and made with all natural ingredients, 720 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.000 none of those artificial sweeteners, and it goes great with 721 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:41.679 just about any summertime activity anytime anywhere. Loosen up by 722 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.719 picking up some Lombardi Lemanada today at your local festival 723 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.239 foods and make any time feel like summertime with Lombardi Lemonada. 724 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.599 Back on Talking Golf along with Mike Keller Dennis Dizziani. 725 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.039 I'm Paul Brown and Dennis. 726 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:03.599 There's a very intry articles in Golf Digs, the latest edition, 727 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.440 and they're talking about the practice range and how things 728 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.599 are changing. Because basically the article says that most golfers 729 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.079 go up there, they hit a bucket of balls, they 730 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.599 get some sense of accomplishment on something that they might 731 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.480 be doing better that will make them have better scores 732 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.800 than those kinds of things. But really the bottom line 733 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.079 is that probably a majority of people who go to 734 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.199 the range don't have a clue what they're doing other 735 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:35.360 than just hitting balls. 736 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.079 Would you agree with that? True? 737 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.000 That's what's happened. Look at the areas that we are 738 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.559 go to China or Japan, that's all they do is 739 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.760 do the range. There's not that's all they do is 740 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.559 do the golf. That's what's happening here. There's no golf 741 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:51.400 holes at some of the indoor facilities that I see 742 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.119 now they just hit balls. 743 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.159 So how does that player they talk about they need 744 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:02.000 training on getting an accurate seine of what the problem 745 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:03.400 is and what's the solution. 746 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.239 How do you go about doing. 747 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.440 Why don't you find somebody who knows something about golf? 748 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.159 And that's an issue that we've got. So many of 749 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:17.400 the PGA that we have now are really credit card collectors. 750 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.559 There's very few that I see that are players and teachers. 751 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.320 And that's what a PGA player used to be a 752 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.920 good player and a good teacher. And I think you 753 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.519 have to be a better than average player in order 754 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.960 to be a teacher. You have to learn the fundamentals, 755 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.239 and then you teach those fundamentals. Now there's so many 756 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.559 of those, and it can be complicated and stuff I had. 757 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.360 Some people aren't going to dive into it that way. 758 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.440 They're going to go there for the exercise, get the pizza, 759 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.599 get the beer, and it's another day. I hit balls, 760 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.800 and I hit them all over the yard. They're picking 761 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:51.519 balls up off of the interstate up here. 762 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:53.280 Yeah. 763 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.880 So, and there's a totally different level of the golf ranges, 764 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.400 which are you know, top golf and pin seekers, which 765 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.920 is in Madison and there is a market for that, 766 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.199 and that is an entertainment like going to a bowling 767 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.800 out absolutely to all which grows the game a little bit. 768 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:12.800 But in order to get better when you go to 769 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.599 a range, there has to be a plan. 770 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.199 Well, you have to be fundamentally correct. Unfortunately, this game 771 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.840 is complicated, right sure, and people aren't going to go 772 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.480 through it. And in the teaching process, how can I 773 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:31.119 make this uncomplicated? So so our deal is we do 774 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.199 a little bit a lot of times rather than standard 775 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.480 for one hour and take a lesson and you leave 776 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.199 there confused, especially in a female end. It's a little bit. 777 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:43.440 You teach them about how to hold the club. Okay, 778 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.679 then you go block this. You're talking about how does 779 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:51.320 this work? Hands are different than the core. The core 780 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:56.920 has five radial torque pieces to it. Radial torque is distance. 781 00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:58.760 I lose you guys yet not yet? 782 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:03.199 Yeah, okay, I have of those things. Yeah. The guy says, 783 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:04.639 oh what the hell is that now? 784 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:04.960 Oh? 785 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:10.719 It's left ankle, hips, backs and abs, shoulders, left arm. 786 00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:14.159 Those are the twisters. Those are the radio torque pieces 787 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.880

and you get those all together. How does this work? 788 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.280 So there we go, But you have to learn that 789 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.519 part of it. And some of the young people that 790 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:26.159 we have are good because they got it. They know 791 00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.119 every one of those things. Now we train them to 792 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.960 be their own best teacher. So when you're out there 793 00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:34.960 playing golf, which is different in hitting and things aren't right, 794 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:40.199 and because metabolism rate changes every day, it's different, you 795 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.840 better know what you're doing and what's causing. So we 796 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.760 have a thing that we call shape and trajectory and path. 797 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.679 Oh really, yeah. Shape and trajectory is in your hands. 798 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.639 If it's going crooked left or right with a big curve, 799 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.719 it's in your hands. Path is a relationship of your 800 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.639 shoulders to the line of impact your footwork. Now you know, 801 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.559 I know I lost ninety percent of who we talk 802 00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.920 to him, right, But you got to go through that 803 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.639 and then all of a sudden, Oh, people are not stupid, 804 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:11.519 you know, but they have to have a little bit 805 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:15.119 of confidence that who's telling them what to do, they're 806 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.000 going to do it. Yeah, and it's going to take time. Now, 807 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.119 the beauty part about this game is exactly that it 808 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.559 takes time, so you'll never stop learning. 809 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.760 Mike, you mentioned the facilities, and. 810 00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:32.199 They're very well equipped launch monitors. They have more information 811 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.679 on how to swing, how the ball reacts, how to 812 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.400 react to that, and that kind of thing. But what 813 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.000 it says is that doesn't account for golfers tendencies, and 814 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.440 they read what does that mean? 815 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.920 Well, it's what's the ball do? What's your ball doing? 816 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.920 Is it hooking? Is it's license it to the right 817 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.599 or to the left. And there's reasons for that in 818 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.199 the golf swing. You know, either your your arms in 819 00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.239 your your your hands, or the club that's moving faster 820 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.960 than your turn. They're really only is one one conscious 821 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.800 move in the golf swing. You have to make only 822 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.239

one shoulder that's it. Oh, well, you've been hanging over 823 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.280 with me and hanging around with me too. It's your 824 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:13.840 upper left quadrant. 825 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.320 That's for you upper right. 826 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:19.079 Well, yeah, don't he gets it. Upper left that has 827 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.440 to start to turn. That's the first seven vertebrae down. 828 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:26.599 That shoulder turn starts the action. If you keep on turning, 829 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.000 then your pecks and abs turn, And if you keep 830 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.960 on turning, then you're finally going to get your hip 831 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.800 to turn. Those are all resistors because on the way 832 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.079 to the other way, going back to the left, you 833 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.960 want your pecks and abs to go through before your shoulders. 834 00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.239 I want arm speed. Last I knew my arms were 835 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:48.920 hooked up to my shoulders. Right. That's but ninety of 836 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:54.320 the people whoever they start their core moves together. Hips, pecks, 837 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.400 and abs and shoulders all move at the same time. 838 00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.960 So don't get mad at me on this question. All right, 839 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.559 I'm going to preface it. Does it change? Do you 840 00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.920 have to teach older differently? 841 00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:05.719 Absolutely? 842 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:06.199 Right. 843 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.320 I mean if you're teaching somebody that's nineteen years old, 844 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:09.960 you're going to teach them a little bit different on 845 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.960 what moves and how it can move and how far 846 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.840 it can move. Then you do this somebody that's sixty one, but. 847 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.400 They're not going to shoot sixty five. Yeah, so what 848 00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.960 are you happy with? Correct, let's get down to that point. 849 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.960 If you get a guy who's eighty five or better, 850 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.119 he loves he loves it. So we have to do 851 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.280 some things. Okay, So we have to I can't turn 852 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.719 this hurts. That hurts. So you build things, and that's teaching. 853 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.800 You build things in here. Now, if you keep doing 854 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.199 the same bad things over and over and over and 855 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.920 over and over again, doing consistency, chances are to be 856 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:40.440 pretty good. 857 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:44.239 Do the same bad thing, bad things as long as 858 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:44.960 you're consistent. 859 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.039 Because we see people right

that will set up to 860 00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.199 hit the ball twenty degrees left of the fairway and 861 00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.480 they then play that fade back into the fairway. Or 862 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.960 my friend that I have who plays with a closed 863 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.239 dance and sets up to hit it over there when 864 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.119 he's going to hit it to the left of that 865 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.679 target by quite a bit right. And if you're consistent 866 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.079 with it, you can play with it. Not all the time, right, 867 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:08.760 but you can you can survive it. 868 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:11.039 I have those type all the time. They play with 869 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.239 the grip. You know, it's so far out of whack, 870 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.400 it's unreal, right, but they've got they've devised a way 871 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:18.559 how to change their plane on the way down and 872 00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.280 how to go ahead and hold on to it in 873 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.440 the strike zone, so they can play a little bit 874 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.199 and they get occasionally they get that shot that gets 875 00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:28.320 the back or that tol they get them back. But 876 00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.719 when you're dealing with a youngster starting out, you're teaching 877 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.960 them all those right fundamentals and he gets to understand 878 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.280 what's going on. I mean, the players that we have 879 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.840 here are some of these young guys, you know, I mean, 880 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.320 you know one boy shot fifty nine. Now you didn't 881 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.840 shoot fifty nine because you were playing with the bad 882 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.400 everything good everything, And we have other ones too. And 883 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.880 what's really good is you can it picks this up 884 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.519 better than anybody. Is the women, the young girls, yeah, 885 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.840 you know, and they are strong in the right place, 886 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:02.199 you know. 887 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:04.840 The fable between the ears sometimes, well. 888 00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.840 They're strong between the ears. But they got the glutes, 889 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.079 you know that, And that's the thing you get to use. 890 00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.599 See you can use your feet then how to play. 891 00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.719 So those are all things. Would you say the guy said, 892 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.199 well you got to use your feet like shooting a 893 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.599 free throw, you know, blows their mind. You But you know, 894 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.360 there are those people that are committed and they'll also 895 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:26.880 do go upstairs. We have a

guy right here goes upstairs. 896 00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.840 He picked up what seven or eight miles per hour? Yeah, 897 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.880 at least twenty yards picked up seven miles on his 898 00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:37.079 club at speed. It can be done. But that's a commitment. 899 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.840 But on the other side of it there, I think 900 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:42.360 everybody that plays the game, for the most part, they 901 00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:46.199 want to improve. But what you're saying is where do 902 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.000 they go and how do they get that? Because quite frankly, 903 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.039 the industry may not have enough people that are good 904 00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.599 at giving quality instruction and really understand what's going on. 905 00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:59.280 How do you handle that? Where do you go? 906 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.239 You got to find somebody, somebody who does it. There 907 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:05.360 are people who are really good at what we do, right, 908 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.880 but you know, oh boy, you know their prices are 909 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.719 getting up to one hundred and fifty bucks two hundred 910 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.880 bucks an hour. It's when I first started out, it 911 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.719 was thirty five bucks. That's it. Well, yeah, people, you 912 00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:20.559 know it was so bad that my blue pants used 913 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.280 to be faded. I was out there for so much. 914 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.400 But now they're not going to not go to invest 915 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.199 or the easier way. Let's buy a club. Sure, that's 916 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.119 the solution for a lot of Let's buy a club. 917 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:32.960 Let's go and do this here and well in the 918 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:34.280 industry has embraced that. 919 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:34.599 Right. 920 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.400 The industry makes a lot of money off of those 921 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.199 who think that the game gets better only with equipment. 922 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.800 Well, I have people who call. Obviously I teach, still teach, 923 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.519 but if there's no commitment there, then I don't really 924 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:47.199 want to do that. 925 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.079 Yeah, And I would go back to what you were 926 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.679 saying earlier, Paul, And that last question is that if 927 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.960 there aren't enough good tea. I think most people, not all, 928 00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.960 but most people are unwilling to invest in the lesson 929 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.079 correct And you're not going to this, you know, reiterate. 930 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.000 I've spent too much time around Dennis. If you don't 931 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.199 start with the fundamentals, you can't get home. 932 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:12.280 You have some good people in this city. Sure, we 933 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:13.039 had Mike, uh. 934 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:16.519 Last weekend. 935 00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.760 There's a young fellow, I don't know how young is anymore. 936 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:23.159 He's fits clubs over at Joel's place. 937 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.800 Yeah, VI tense and that Nevada Bob's. 938 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:26.119 Yeah. 939 00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:26.840 You know. 940 00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:30.719 There's some good people out there, you know. Uh, and 941 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:32.719 there are some better ones. You know. It all depends 942 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.039 what you want to do. And some people don't relate. 943 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.760 I mean, not everybody wants to take a lesson from me, 944 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:38.239 are you sure? 945 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:38.440 Kid? 946 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:40.440 And I wouldn't take a lesson from either, But some 947 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:41.320 of them will come there. 948 00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:42.880 He has a unique style, folks. 949 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.840 Yeah, well but here, Here's what I would say, is 950 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.199 that Dennis's style. Every time I've watched it's very positive. 951 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:55.239 It doesn't some coaches can occasionally get negative. Dennis is 952 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.480 He's a positive reinforcement teacher. When something good happens and 953 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.320 I watched and teach Jackson my son a little bit, 954 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.880 and Dennis has helped me. And when something good happens, 955 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.880 the smile and the laughter coming from this guy is 956 00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:10.360 a positive reinforcement. 957 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.000 Oh, you have to have an outcome. There has to 958 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.480 be a result, and we can't take forever to get 959 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.559 the result. Put this there. So then you start working backwards, 960 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.639 all the way back, giving him a hand drill, giving 961 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.039 him a foot drill. Well, I didn't know that. I 962 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.000 didn't know. That's all of a sudden. They can incorporate 963 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.719 all you switch it around and you incorporate so that 964 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.039 you meld your hand AGGX with your core because that's 965 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.440 the deal. You know, those are the two items that 966 00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:33.880 you have this. 967 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.519 So it's so deep and so complicated and also so 968 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:41.000 invigorating and fun. I mean, when you take a lesson 969 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.480 to find you know, you might only hit twenty percent 970 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.400 of those shots that

you wanted to hit, but those 971 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.880 twenty percent, yeah, brings you. Gives you the hope and 972 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.239 the idea that if I could just do that more consistently, 973 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.039 And when you do it the right way, then you 974 00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.280 go shoot, well, I can do that. I can find 975 00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.360 my way to do that more often come. 976 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.280 In to get their mug club, you know. And the 977 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.960 guy says, you know, I burdied sixteen and I birdied eighteen, 978 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:06.840 or I did this, or I did that. He's got 979 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:07.920 a smile from ear to ear. 980 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:09.880 Yeah, Wow, that's pretty good. 981 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:10.639 That's the payment. 982 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:12.199 Pretty good right there, that's the payment. 983 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.199 He saw something very interesting. We talk about distances on 984 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.639 the scramble here. On the fourth of July, in our group, 985 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.079 we had a five person scramble. 986 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.639 Yeah, on number two what is it for eighty? 987 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:26.199 Yeah? 988 00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:30.639 About we had one hundred and fifty six yards to 989 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.239 the pin on our second shot. Three of us scope 990 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.440 to thinking, No, it can't be that close. It was close, 991 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.280 one hundred and fifty six yards. 992 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:40.760 Well it's your t shot. 993 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:47.199 No, no, I was probably about one hundred yards back from. 994 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:48.119 That two shots. 995 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.960 But I mean it is incredible what some people are 996 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:52.760 the distance, asserting. 997 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.480 The calf both. My young guy, I tell you said 998 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:57.760 he was really upset I lost the long drive contest. 999 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.440 I said, you did. Yep, I lost by the yard, 1000 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.639 and I'm really pissed off. He says, you know about 1001 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:04.519 that right now? Nice, Well, how far as you hit it? 1002 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:10.119 He says, three forty says okay, three forty six, Well, 1003 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:10.880 are you kidding me? 1004 00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:12.920 We'll come back and wrap things up in a minute. 1005 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.960 This is talking golf at TPC Wisconsin. 1006 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.159 Your golf game need to pick me up. It's one 1007 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.239 stop shopping only in the Bada Bob. Joel and his 1008 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.440 crew can equip you, dress you, teach you. And here's 1009 00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.079 the best part. 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It's one stop shopping only 1062 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:07.840 in the batle bobs. 1063 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:08.800 Joel and his crew. 1064 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.599 Can equip you, dress you, teach you. And here's the 1065 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.000 best part. Doer use club shoes, bags, carts, apparel, ball, 1066 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:15.360 you name it and they got it. 1067 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:15.920 Isn't that right? 1068 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.599 Joel, your game, your store always at the best price. 1069 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.840 Back on talking golf along with Mike Huller, Dennis Isi, 1070 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.519 Yanni Claul around here. Dennis forgot about a minute and 1071 00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:32.360 a half. Well, in terms of getting better and playing golf, 1072 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:35.639 putting is an integral part of it. How about avoiding 1073 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.920 the three putt? What's the key to doing that? 1074 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.119 Well? You have to control distance. If in fact you're 1075 00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:44.400 breaking the putter, breaking your wrists and hitting the ball. 1076 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.039 If you're hitting the putt from behind, hitting it and 1077 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.880 you can hear the sound, you'll never control the distance, 1078 00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.400 and in a tight situation it'll be a flimsy You 1079 00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.639 have to be able to roll the ball. In other words, 1080 00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:59.159 put the putter on the back of the ball, and 1081 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.000 it's the forward movement of the putter. Now, I'll tell 1082 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.199 you what. There's a drill. You take your ball, take 1083 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.559 it about three or four feet from the hole. Put 1084 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.719 your putter down behind the ball. Now just move the 1085 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:14.039 potter head forward. You move the putter head forward, and 1086 00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.880 you'll notice that when you do that, the heel will 1087 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.960 go first and the ball will have a tendency to 1088 00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.840 feel like it rolls off the toe, top rolls off 1089 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:26.800 the toe. So roll the ball. Keep doing that. Roll 1090 00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.719 the ball, not hit the ball. Hitting the ball, doesn't 1091 00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:32.199 get it, and then it happens. Sometimes have a bad 1092 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.320 grip left hand, the right hand's on wrong. You got 1093 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:36.679 to get those on straight. But it's when you bend 1094 00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.360 the putter back with your hands and then you hit 1095 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.519 it with your hands. No, no wrist break to the right. 1096 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:50.360 That particular angle that your right wrist is in never change. 1097 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:51.840 It stays the same. 1098 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.159 It's interesting because and we don't have time for this, 1099 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.400 but and I think we've had this conversation in the 1100 00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.599 past that it used to be different. We used to 1101 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.559 watch many many players who would do it, would be 1102 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.320 very handsy in the way they put it. Because the 1103 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:06.440 greens were a lot slower. You had to hit the ball, 1104 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.079 had to hit the ball. Now you don't have to 1105 00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:09.559 just because the green speeds. 1106 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:11.440 Oh, you'd have to know the way back when you'd 1107 00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.000 have to have about a four foot back sea and 1108 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:15.000 then have it a role. 1109 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.639 Next week, I think Steve Strucker will join us. 1110 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.639 We had a well, he'll be on next week is 1111 00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.039 the plan now we figured that part out, okay, and 1112

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