บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode 280: Interview with Scott from Washington

--> 00:02:20.280 mind if I give a shout out to all the 38 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:21.520 Australians listening? 39 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:22.240 Absolutely? 40 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:25.800 How's it going, guys, hope you can hear me? Okay 41 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:27.719 with all the blood running to your head. 42 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.800 And we do. I think Australia is I think the 43 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:36.000 number three or four top listen to nation, you know, US, Canada, 44 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.719 England and Australia. I think we actually might even have 45 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.560 more in Australia than England. We have a huge listenership, 46 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:43.879 so big shout out right there. 47 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.400 Yeah, I've heard quite a few of them on here before, 48 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.800 so good stuff. I just wanted to say that I 49 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:54.879 feel honored to be on your podcast. I feel like 50 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.240 you do a great job and everything that you do, 51 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:02.080 and I feel like you've had a lot of smart 52 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.479 and courageous people on here. So it's just really cool 53 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.400 to be able to step on with you and kind 54 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:11.240 of have a conversation. This is probably the first conversation 55 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.960 that's more in depth that I've had with anybody about 56 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:22.080 flat Earth. So far, it's been with not people of 57 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:24.159 like mind, so it's cool. 58 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.520 Yeah, And that's something that I think people really appreciate 59 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.919 because for many of us, including myself outside of my wife, 60 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:36.240 not really able to have an in person conversation. Sure, 61 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.639 there's chat rooms and reddits and things of that nature YouTube, 62 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:41.639 but to be able to sit down and look at 63 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.439 somebody face to faith, even if it's not in person, 64 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:46.960 it's nice to have that kind of conversation. 65 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:48.479 Yeah. 66 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.159 Yeah, So tell us a little bit about your journey. 67 00:03:54.039 --> 00:04:01.080 So it's so. I'm forty two as born in on 68 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:06.080 June twenty first, nineteen eighty four. So I grew up 69 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:13.039 in Oregon, in Rogue River, which is about forty miles 70 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:20.279 north of the California border, and so grew up like 71 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:26.199 hunting and fishing with my family. My great grandfather had 72 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:30.360 a gold mine in the mountains between Oregon and California 73 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.399 where we'd go every summer and spend a lot of 74 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.600 time up there. All my family lives down there in Oregon. 75 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:45.879 So going through school, had a difficult time. There's a 76 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:49.879 lot of bullying. Never was a really good student. I 77 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.519 was basically a sea average. Never really questioned authority or 78 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.319 what I was being taught all the way through school. 79 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.879 So it's kind of hard for me to talk about myself. 80 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.800 I do have like a problem with ego, and I've 81 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.600 had to check that quite a bit, So like saying 82 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.360 the words I and me, it's it's it's not the 83 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:19.000 easiest thing for me just to be honest, but anyway, 84 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.399 I know this is how it kind of goes, so 85 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:26.879 I'll get through the me story. I've always been like 86 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:31.360 really creative. Like the the classes that I loved in 87 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:36.199 school were you know, artistic drama, you know, anything to 88 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:44.319 do with creativity. I really liked always loved reading, movies, games, 89 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:51.560 and my favorite genre is like sci fi fantasy type stuff. 90 00:05:54.120 --> 00:06:02.360 Grew up going to church in Calvary Chapel. I'd go 91 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:09.040 every Sunday with my mom learning the Bible, always always there. 92 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.399 And it's interesting that my pastor growing up, he was 93 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.839 a very solid man of the Bible, loved to teach 94 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:21.360 x you know, expositorily, if that's a word. But he 95 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:25.199 was also very interested in science and cosmology and space, 96 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:27.920 and he was always telling us like, you know, how 97 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.319 many earths can fit in the sun. We're just a 98 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.879 spec in a spec on a spec. The universe is 99 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.759 amazing and that's the way God created it. So I 100 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:42.720 kind of grew up learning that also. So anyway, yeah, 101 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:48.959 through school was difficult. I remember reading Fahrenheit four fifty 102 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.879 one when I was a freshman in high school, and 103 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:56.000 I really remember loving that book just the way it 104 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:59.519 was written, and that was kind of if I could 105 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:04.000 put up point on where my mind kind of opened 106 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:10.959 up into, like, Okay, things could be different than what 107 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:13.600 they are, I guess it would be kind of with that. 108 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:19.600 And because there was a lot of parallels the way 109 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:23.120 Ray

Bradberry wrote that book and what we see today 110 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:28.360 as far as like politics and entertainment and things like that. 111 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.439 So that was like a kind of a light bulb. 112 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.399 I guess you could say moment, if just a really 113 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:37.639 faint one, because I was just a freshman in high 114 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:42.000 school and I never questioned anything like I said. And 115 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.319 then in like ninety seven or ninety eight, I moved 116 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.959 up here from Oregon. I live about thirty forty minutes 117 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:55.959 north of Seattle, and my dad got a job as 118 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.279 a well he's always been a power lineman, but he 119 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.439 got a job up here, and so we moved up 120 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:06.439 when I was a sophomore in high school, and I 121 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:11.839 was a senior in high school when nine to eleven happened. 122 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:15.600 I remember seeing it on the TV in the morning 123 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.040 before I went to school, like seeing one of the 124 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.040 towers smoking, and then getting to school, I was in 125 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.879 my art class and seeing the towers fall. That was 126 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:30.720 a crazy morning. I remember all the kids around me 127 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:34.000 were just didn't really understand what was happening, and I 128 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:38.159 didn't either to a degree, but I knew it was serious, 129 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.799 but a lot of people were making jokes about it, 130 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:47.639 and I thought that was odd and sad, even as 131 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:53.320 a senior in high school. But after high school. Hopefully 132 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:57.000 I'm not being too long winded with this, but after 133 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:01.039 high school, I started working. I was a roofer for 134 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:06.399 a while, and I kind of got into a partying 135 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:18.919 phase and drinking a lot, and did construction for a 136 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:24.480 long time up until two thousand and eight. But yeah, 137 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:29.600 I was roofing and doing construction and you know, doing 138 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.279 the party scene and drinking. But I was also still 139 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:37.399 into church and really into music, playing bass on the 140 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.840 church's worship team kind of in that time frame. Not 141 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:46.600 always like overlapping, but played guitar on the worship team 142 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:49.759 in my local church for about eight years or so. 143 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.879 Always loved music. And then the housing crash hit in 144 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:00.919 two thousand and eight, and I went into manufacturing because 145 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.200 I couldn't get any work doing what I was doing. 146 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:09.159 And in that time I had a son with a 147 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.200 woman that I wasn't married to at the time, and 148 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.320 he was born in two thousand and nine, and a 149 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.799 couple of years after that, me and his mom got married, 150 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:30.519 and I remember one funny thing. I don't know if 151 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:35.120 it's funny, it's just poignant in my mind. We got 152 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:40.320 married and we had our honeymoon in Hawaii, and that 153 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:47.360 was in two thousand and nine, two thousand, right around there. 154 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.039 But on our honeymoon, we went and saw the movie 155 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:56.200 Contagion on our honeymoon, and I know, you bring that 156 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.679 movie up a lot, so I just, you know, that's 157 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.559 a a kind of a core memory in my mind, 158 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:04.840 like who goes to a movie on their honeymoon in Hawaii? 159 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:11.879 But we did anyway, So really the beginning of my 160 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:18.000 journey to the truth happened around COVID. My son was 161 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:23.600 diagnosed with Crohn's disease when he was four, and he 162 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:30.840 had a really difficult time in twenty twenty with his 163 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.000 digestive system and the Crohn's disease and he had a 164 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:39.080 flare up. So he was in the hospital right around 165 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.919 the middle to the end of COVID, probably closer to 166 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:48.919 the middle of COVID, and with with everything that they 167 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.919 had in place as far as being at the hospital 168 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:56.000 with somebody in Washington state, I don't know about other states, 169 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.559 but you could only have one person in the hospital 170 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:02.519 room at any given time. And he was in the 171 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:12.440 hospital for forty five days. So I would go to 172 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.559 the hospital with him on weekends, and his mom was 173 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:20.080 there with him on weekdays. So In that time, me 174 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:23.279 and him really bonded. I got him a PlayStation five 175 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.000 because we're both gamers, and we just like got real 176 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:33.120 close during that time. And at the same time, well, 177 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.759 he got out of the hospital, and it was right 178 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:44.240 around the time when they just started saying that it 179 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:49.080 was okay for twelve and over or anyway kids to

180 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.960 be able to get the shot, and through that ordeal 181 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.519 with him being a month and a half in the hospital, 182 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:02.879 I really wanted to reach the vaccine because I was 183 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:08.519 I was not like I had no idea about vaccines, 184 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:10.639 good or bad. Both my kids I have a daughter 185 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:15.120 also that's three years younger than him, but they were 186 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.919 all fully vaccinated when they were kids, when they were younger, 187 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:22.759 and then this one's comes along and a lot of 188 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:25.240 people are talking about it, so I decide, Okay, I'm 189 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.960 going to research this because he just spent a month 190 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:29.879 and a half in the hospital, so I want to 191 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.039 be sure that this isn't going to be something that's 192 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.120 bad for him. And in doing that research, I realized, Okay, 193 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.759 there's quite a bit of information that I had no 194 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:46.679 idea about concerning vaccines and what they actually are, which 195 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:53.960 I believe is you know, basically a weapon depopulation whatnot. 196 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.759 So you know, I told him, you're not getting the vaccine. 197 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.200 I told my daughter, you're not getting the vaccine. Told 198 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.840 my wife you're I don't want you to get the vaccine, 199 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:08.840 but she'd already taken one dose and said, basically, my body, 200 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:14.519 my choice. And that was kind of the anyway, I 201 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:21.240 got divorced after that during COVID. Uh so, yeah, that's 202 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.360 kind of what started me on the truth journey. My 203 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:28.480 friend I had a good friend named Tony who still 204 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:30.120 is a good friend. We don't keep in touch, but 205 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:32.720 he was the one that kind of started me on, 206 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:36.120 like you should look into these vaccines. And I was 207 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:41.399 trying to quit smoking at the same time, and I 208 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.039 was taking Chantics, which is made by Visors. 209 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.360 That's the one Ray Liotta was doing the advertisements for. 210 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:54.080 Right, I'm not sure. I hadn't really seen any advertisements 211 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.639 for it before that, but I just knew I wanted 212 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:58.559 to quit smoking. 213 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.440 So yeah, that was h The last thing he did 214 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:04.279 before he passed was those Chantis commercials. 215 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:05.200 Is that right? 216 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:05.519 Yeah? 217 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:11.519 Oh yeah, they I mean they help. Uh yeah. 218 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.399 I wasn't saying anything that. It was just interesting that 219 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.440 that's what he used to quit smoking. He he was like, 220 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:18.960 you know, smoking since he was twelve. 221 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.120 Okay, well, uh yeah, I took him quit smoking for 222 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.559 a while and then I started again. But that's here 223 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.080 an oder there. But yeah, my friend Tony, he was 224 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.840 telling me to not to look into the vaccines and 225 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.679 but he was also talking about like flat earth and 226 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:39.799 NASA at the time. But I wasn't ready to hear that. 227 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:42.000 Were you going to say. 228 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.120 Something, Oh, no, you're You're doing just fine. 229 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:50.720 Okay, hopefully I'm not being too wordy about uh yeah, 230 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:58.279 so uh, anyway, that'll happened. Got divorced. I had worked, 231 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:01.840 I had started working at both in twenty eleven, and 232 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:04.519 then fast forward to twenty twenty one, when all this 233 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:10.799 was going on. At Boeing, they were telling us that 234 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:18.000 you need to be vaccinated by December eighth, twenty twenty, 235 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.600 twenty twenty, or you're going to lose your job because 236 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.480 they had a contract with the government, right, And so 237 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.679 I knew I wasn't going to take it. And I 238 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.639 was fed up with taking putting on a mask every 239 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.600 day and wearing a mask in a manufacturing environment where 240 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:41.720 everybody's just real close together in airplanes, it just all 241 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:47.679 of it seemed very ridiculous to me. So I got 242 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:49.759 fired from Boeing because I told him I wasn't going 243 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.559 to put on a mask anymore. Also because I knew 244 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.759 I wasn't going to be taking the vaccine before the 245 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:07.720 end date. So I got walked out November of twenty twenty. 246 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.039 So yeah, that's how I quit my career at Boeing. 247 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.720 And then I feel like I'm all over the place. 248 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:25.599 But to get to flat Earth, Yeah, that was a 249 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.240 tumultuous time in my life. I feel that was really 250 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.599 the awakening to like what's going on in the world. Actually, 251 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:37.039 And like I said, my buddy

Tony was talking to 252 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.920 me about flat Earth and at that point I wasn't 253 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:45.119 ready to receive it or even look into it. I 254 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.920 just knew that, yeah, you were right on the vaccine, 255 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.759 so you're probably right on other things, but I'm just 256 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:57.920 not ready for that yet. But it was always in 257 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:04.039 the back of my mind. And anyway, fast forward a 258 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.039 little bit. I did two years of door to door 259 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.680 sales in between Boeing and where I work now, which 260 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:21.880 is SpaceX, and I started looking into flat Earth because 261 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:28.279 my son told me that his friend had told him 262 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:35.960 that I was crazy like conspiracy theorists about vaccines, and 263 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.680 he had told my son the term your dad's a 264 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:46.920 flat earth or somehow, and I'm like, why does he 265 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.160 think that I'm a flat earther. So that kind of 266 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:53.799 got me into like, Okay, I'm gonna look into this 267 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:57.279 just so I can say, yeah, you're I'm not a 268 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:01.759 flat Earth. So I started looking into it, and I 269 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:06.480 see things that I can't disprove and things that I 270 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:12.880 can observe, you know, in real life, in real time, 271 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.359 and it just all made sense and it kind of clicked. 272 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:20.839 And that was about four or five months after starting 273 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:25.599 at Startling at SpaceX. I worked for Startling but which 274 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:32.279 is part of SpaceX obviously. So yeah, I mean that's 275 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:37.279 kind of the journey. That's quite I started, Oh, go ahead. 276 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:39.279 That's gonna say. That's quite a journey. And you've touched 277 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:41.240 on many things, and I just want to kind of 278 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.039 go back and mention a few things before we continue 279 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:47.119 on first and foremost. I actually didn't read Fahrenheit four 280 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.920 fifty one until one of my first courses in community, 281 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.759 well wasn't community with my associates, where we read Fahrenheit 282 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:59.160 four fifty one, and it immediately you really understood. It's 283 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:03.000 a dystopian but I think it's also truth uh in 284 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.319 disclosure as well. I think there is coming a time 285 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.119 you just look at twenty twenty where if you're not 286 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.559 politically correct, you were shut down thought control, freedom of speech, control, 287 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:16.200 deep platforming. And that's why I always encourage everyone, if 288 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:18.480 there's a book that means a lot to you, you 289 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.519 better get a physical copy because to me, the firemen 290 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.720 who you know, came in and burned the books. It 291 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:29.000 was a literal sense in the fifties when it was written. However, 292 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.240 in this day and age, it's just a literal You know, 293 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.960 all these digital books on Kindle or whatever platform, they 294 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:36.880 can just be disappeared instantly. 295 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:43.160 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 296 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:45.119 What was the other one? 297 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:49.119 I don't have many all my books are digital. I 298 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:51.039 listened to a lot of books off of Audible. 299 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:52.200 Yeah, I do too. 300 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:57.119 And yeah, I actually started listening to your podcast like 301 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:02.839 a week after you stopped back in August. I think 302 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:07.359 it was yeah, yeah, I realized that you're I listened 303 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:11.400 to your last podcast in that at that time, and 304 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:13.839 I was like, oh man, I just started listening to 305 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.599 this and now it's gone, but I listened to that one, 306 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:19.160 and then I went back and I listened to all 307 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:24.200 the other interviews that you did, and yeah, when you 308 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:26.920 came back on, I decided, you know, I feel kind 309 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.599 of led to just hop on. You know. 310 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.799 Yeah. The older I get, the more that I have 311 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:37.200 these conversations and read and it's just the lie is 312 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.240 so big, and it really goes to show how important 313 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.079 the psychological warfare is against us to get people to 314 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:48.759 automatically defend something they have no knowledge of whatsoever. If 315 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:51.119 you walk up to somebody and you mentioned flat earth, 316 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.119 they laugh at you. But if you ask them the 317 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:56.880 most basic of questions of heliocentrism, they're clueless to it. 318 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:01.319 Yeah. Yeah, and the terrifications are huge. 319 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.119 I did a podcast two hours before we came on, 320 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:06.440 like ten o'clock this morning, just a thirty minute one 321 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.000 strictly from the Bible. And you know, I hear all 322 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.200 the time pastors, and again I'm

not questioning their heart. 323 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:14.279 They're good people, good servants. They preach to be a 324 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.119 Brian and you know, follow the word of God, test 325 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:21.480 everything against the word of God. Yeah. The Bible is 326 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:24.599 a geocentric book, period, flat out. End of story. It's 327 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:26.519 not even up for debate. So if we are going 328 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.319 to do those type of things, it's all or nothing. 329 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:38.920 Yeah, yep, for sure, what kind of side? Go ahead? 330 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:40.240 No, you go ahead. I didn't mean it. 331 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.640 I was just going to say I've listened to quite 332 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:49.480 a few books on audible since starting your podcast. Moon 333 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.640 Man by Bart Sebrell, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by 334 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:57.279 David McGowan, Great one, The Moth and the Iron Lung 335 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:02.160 Forrest McCready. The FLM Looked Like Clowns by Paul Stobbs, 336 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.119 one of the guys that came on your podcast. I 337 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:10.039 read his book Mark gober And Into the Upside Down Cosmos, 338 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:14.680 which was really really good. And I'm currently listening to 339 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:20.920 Dissolve Dissolving Illusions by Susan Humphrees. It's about vaccines. 340 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.759 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, that is something. 341 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:27.519 Go ahead. Sorry, there's just a little delay. It's not 342 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:28.200 me cutting you off. 343 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.799 Go ahead, Oh no, worries. There was one verse that 344 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:38.200 I wanted to share that I kind of feel helps 345 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:44.599 me with the truth journey, and it's First Corinthians one 346 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.960 twenty seven. For God to've chosen the foolish things of 347 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:53.119 this world to confound the wise. I just I feel 348 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:58.640 like a lot of flatters are scene is crazy and uneducated. 349 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:04.440 But that's not how I see it. It's people think 350 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:07.720 they're wise in their own eyes because they have gone 351 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:10.240 to college for four or five years and have spent 352 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:13.839 how knows how much on a degree. But you know, 353 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:20.400 I think true wisdom is just you know, comes from God. 354 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:23.920 So and I've asked God a couple of times, Lord 355 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:27.759 give me wisdom, Like when my son was just coming 356 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:29.920 out of the hospital and I was looking at the vaccines. 357 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.720 I remember praying, Lord,

just give me wisdom on this, 358 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.680 and he definitely did, so. 359 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.880 Amen to that. And that book by Suzanne Humphreys, what 360 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.960 a great book and one of the greatest lies. Is 361 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:47.000 this whole anti vaxxer movement just started like within the 362 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.599 last twenty or thirty years. It's been going on since 363 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.359 the early before this country was even formed. And I'm 364 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:58.160 trying to find There was a sermon from seventeen twenty two, 365 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:02.160 so three hundred year old sermon that was given by 366 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:09.680 Reverend Edmund Massey, and it was about how evil vaccines were. 367 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:16.440 It was entitled the Dangerous and Sinful Practice of inoculation sinful. 368 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:20.640 It's man's way, in Satan's way of saying that God 369 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.400 didn't create you perfectly. The whole thought of putting vitamin 370 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:25.880 K in a child before their body is ready to 371 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.400 adat to it, on and on and on. This isn't 372 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:30.400 anything new. This has been going on since the birth 373 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:35.880 of inoculations. And that's the thing. Whether you're anti vax 374 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:39.279 or and that's another term like flat earth, we're not 375 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:44.240 anti vax We're just we're fine. We don't need that protection. 376 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.640 If we need it, God would have given it to us. 377 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:49.960 And by the way, God put us here for x 378 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.119 amount of time as well. When God calls us home, 379 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:53.759 there's a reason for it. I know people don't like 380 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:59.319 to hear that, but that's the truth. It's so diabolical vaccinations. 381 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:01.559 And when you find out the truth about it, it's 382 00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.519 like flat earth, you feel fool. Do you feel angry 383 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.920 at yourself because my older children were vaccinated as well? 384 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:12.519 Praise the Lord. My grandchildren aren't their homeschooled healthy life. 385 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:14.839 You know, That's why I prayed today at the end 386 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.359 of the podcast I recorded earlier, I just pray for 387 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.799 the scales to fall from the eyes of men before 388 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:24.920 the tribulation comes, because there's a lot of diet Christians 389 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.200 out there, brother, who just think showing up to church 390 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.279 and checking the box is going to keep them prepared 391 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:36.599 enough against the spiritual warfare that we deal with every day. 392 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:43.400 Yeah, it's definitely an upside down that world that we 393 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:43.799 live in. 394 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:49.000 Yeah, what kind of I guess we'll start with vaccines first. 395 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.920 What kind of luck have you had giving that knowledge 396 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:54.920 to other people? Do you get shut down just as 397 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.079 quickly with flatter Earth and everything else. 398 00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.920 When it comes to a vaccine. I don't know. I'm 399 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:07.440 kind of uh, not really an extroverted person when it 400 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.640 comes to like bringing up subjects like that with people. 401 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.440 Normally I just keep information to myself. 402 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:24.680 Yeah, Yeah, it's it's not easy, especially with those type 403 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.279 of topics I said in the in the interview I 404 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.279 did with the Bad Takes, Folks, nobody wants to wake 405 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.599 up in the morning and and we're the title of 406 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.519 flat Earth or right, nobody wants to be mocked and 407 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.759 made a joked about. But at the end of the day, 408 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.880 if if i'm if I can prove something from the 409 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.279 Word of God, then you're you're not only mocking me, 410 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.359 you're mocking the creator as well. 411 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.920 Right. I liked what you said in your last episode. 412 00:27:54.519 --> 00:28:00.799 You said something about if you're really a uh, everybody 413 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:04.119 wants to be a Borean until they it goes against 414 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.759 your beliefs. Yep, yeah, I thought that was really good. 415 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.359 That's true, it really is. 416 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.480 And again, I know there's a lot of good hearted 417 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.160 pastors that use that term often. And then when you 418 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:20.240 show them something that isn't debatable that there's something in 419 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:24.160 there that and again that's the magic of the human psyche. 420 00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.400 Is it's so interesting? Why can't they see it? And 421 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.960 we were all there too? Is it like you, it 422 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.000 was planted there for a while and it just you 423 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.480 weren't ready to accept it. What is that block though? 424 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.720 Is it we don't want to be known as a 425 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.640 flat earther or because you would think we'd want to 426 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.000 know the truth, no matter how bitter it tastes. But 427 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.799 there are certain subjects people

refuse to look at. 428 00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:54.480 Yeah, it's true. Like I'll give breadcrumbs to people here 429 00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:59.680 and there, Like with the topic of vaccines, I have 430 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.599 hold my like close family and close friends about it obviously, 431 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:11.519 and I'd say most of them pretty much agree with 432 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:17.000 me now. But yeah, with the subject of flat Earth, 433 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.640 I tend to, you know, drop breadcrumbs, like they say. 434 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:29.680 I've had some extensive conversations with one of my good friends, 435 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.359 and you know, I've told my family about it, and 436 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:39.519 they I feel like I able to articulate what it 437 00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.279 is and I get like, provide the scripture to back 438 00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.960 it up, but they're just not ready, like I wasn't ready. 439 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:52.759 So yeah, it's like you tell someone and then God 440 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.759 will reveal it to him when he wants to reveal 441 00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:57.119 to them. 442 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:01.400 I guess, you know, sadly, I I've seen a lot 443 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.880 of pastors, you know, if you go to Protestia, that 444 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.200 they curate videos or harvest videos from these really out 445 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.759 of touch churches who believe a lot of the Bible. 446 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.960 They just don't really understand the world today. And you know, 447 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.799 this applies, but this doesn't apply. And that's such a 448 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.680 dangerous stance to take it. You know, everything is the 449 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.440 inspired word of God or it's not. And I'm just 450 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.480 seeing in this day and age, in twenty twenty six, 451 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.640 people just picking and choosing what they want. The people, 452 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.720 you know, saying things about Paul and what love is, 453 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.960 but not just it's really twisted to see how Satan 454 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.319 has infiltrated all of these churches. And I'm not here 455 00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.640 to say I'm the end all be all, but some 456 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:51.720 of these churches are just way out there. And I 457 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.480 can tell you by the amount of emails I get 458 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.359 from people who are so discouraged with the churches in 459 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.880 their area, I know it's not just me who struggles 460 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.319 with finding a good, solid church. 461 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:09.720 Yeah. Yeah, I've been trying to get plugged in with 462 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.839 the church. For most of my life. I was a 463 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.240 church every Sunday. I've just kind of gotten off track 464 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:23.319 with that just because of life. And but yeah, finding 465 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.079 a good church is a difficult thing to do. 466 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:28.799 Yeah, it certainly can be. Let's talk about if you can. 467 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.920 You know SpaceX that they have three divisions. They have 468 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.599 the space right, they have the star Link, which is 469 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.720 you know, internet satellite, and then they have the AI 470 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.200 as well, which you know, these data centers take up 471 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.920 a lot of resources as well. And I'm sure do 472 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.640 you see the compartmentalization like we see in these big 473 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.000 corporations like NASA or in the military, the compartmentalization there 474 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.640 as well. 475 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:06.799 Yeah, definitely, Like I go to work and basically, I 476 00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:15.039 see SpaceX and NASA is kind of pretty close. I 477 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.480 don't know the inner workings at the top, but you know, 478 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:21.880 I come to work to make a paycheck to feed 479 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.920 my kids. I don't know what's going on in the 480 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:32.559 upper boardrooms. Yeah, compartmentalization is definitely real. Like, I work 481 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:38.119 with a lot of good people that they come to 482 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.119 work and do the same thing that I do, just 483 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:46.839 to you know, take a paycheck home. It is interesting, 484 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.720 like we'll sit around the TV and watch launches, and 485 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.440 when I watch a launch like it, I can see 486 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.279 the crazy power of the rocketry. But then at a 487 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.920 certain point it cuts to the CGI and I'm just 488 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.960 watching a cartoon from that point on, So like I'll 489 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.000 look around. I don't watch the launch anymore. I look 490 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.039 around the room and watch the faces of the people 491 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:18.559 watching the launches. You know. 492 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.960 So yeah, sorry, go ahead. 493 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:30.759 It's definitely interesting with the neurolink, SpaceX and Tesla and 494 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:39.039 X and how they're all kind of converging. It's interesting 495 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:46.039 being working at a place like this and being somebody 496 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:54.960 that understands like real cosmology and the firmament, and it's 497 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.359 kind of like, what, why does God have me working here? 498 00:33:58.440 --> 00:33:59.119 At this time. 499

00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.319 Yeah, that's a great thought. 500 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:02.920 I don't know. 501 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.680 You know a lot of people, I get a lot 502 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.639 of emails, and I mentioned on that podcast yesterday. I 503 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.280 guess it was that that I did have a guy 504 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:15.320 who came on anonymously. I forget if he was NSA 505 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.360 or something like that, but he said that the these 506 00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.559 links were nothing more than bouncing off the firmament, and 507 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.039 that's something that I always I had always thought about. 508 00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.360 And I said, well, that makes perfect sense. I don't 509 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.199 know if that's something that you've ever thought about. 510 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:37.599 Yeah, I think that was really recent, wasn't it. Anyway, 511 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:43.519 I just heard something about, Yeah, the bouncing off the firmament. 512 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:48.199 I've looked a lot about, looked into a lot of 513 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:53.880 like Sadaloon type things. Sure, Echo one was the first one. 514 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:59.760 And yeah, I'm on YouTube a lot. There's a lot 515 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:09.360 of I watch a lot of early NASA, like Apollo eleven. 516 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:16.440 I watch a lot of that, the just the interviews 517 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:22.239 and the post mission press briefings and the crew before 518 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:28.000 the Senate, after the moon landing, the original so called 519 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:32.920 moon landing, and just watching their faces and seeing like 520 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.400 you know, there's deception, like once you understand once you 521 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.400 see it. You can see it in their face. Yeah, 522 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:48.320 you know. And yeah, it's crazy how much I think 523 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:55.280 NASA and Disney are connected because I love to go 524 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.760 back and watch There's this YouTube channel called Periscope Films. 525 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.280 Don't know if you've heard of it or not, Yes, sir, okay, 526 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.400 I'll go back and watch videos from the late forties 527 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.159 to the early sixties in that timeframe and the early 528 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:22.440 Disney television. There's there was one episode from season two 529 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:28.800 of the Early Disney television and it was called Man 530 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.519 on the Moon or. 531 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.559 Yeah, that's the one Warner von Brown had a part in, right. 532 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.239 Yes, And I watched that whole thing and it was 533 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.119 just like before the Apollo program. It was just set 534 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.079 in the stage for it. And it also like set 535 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.800 the stage for Apollo thirteen too, because there's a clip 536 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:55.760 in that episode where there's a a problem on the 537 00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:02.000 spaceship and it just looks so familiar like Apollo thirteen. 538 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.079 It was just like programming, getting the getting the country 539 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:11.599 ready for the Space program. I feel like, yeah, yeah. 540 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.440 If you check out that Periscope film, I'll try to 541 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:15.920 remember to put it in the show notes. They have 542 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.280 a YouTube channel that's dedicated to all of those old films. 543 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:23.039 They have the old eighties, drunk driving, Call to Action, 544 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.519 camping in Alaska from the sixties, a trip into the 545 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.559 Sears Service Department from nineteen sixty one. That they have 546 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.559 all kinds of neat stuff from back in the day, 547 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:39.800 and of course everything with NASA and Warner von Brown 548 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.079 and preparing your minds. They always prepare the mind so 549 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.639 when they pull the psychological operation, you're more apt to 550 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:48.159 receive it. 551 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:55.519 Yeah, like I said when I started, I really like 552 00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.880 to watch more. I really did like to watch movies. 553 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:05.199 Once you understand what the earth is and our creation 554 00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:10.960 and the lies being told to us, like the fact 555 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.280 that there's no space and nobody's been beyond the firmament, 556 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.760 and you understand the programming that comes through Hollywood, it 557 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:24.559 starts to become less enjoyable. Like it's hard to find 558 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.360 a movie I like to watch anymore. And I was 559 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.239 a huge movie buff. 560 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.480 Yeah, there's been one or two since twenty twenty that 561 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.400 the entire film industry since COVID has completely gone down 562 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.239 the toilet. But even films you looked upon as decent art, 563 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.719 now that you're awake and everything you look at it 564 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:48.320 as mockery. In many cases films I go back to 565 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.760 to watch to learn from, you know, like The True 566 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:55.440 Man Show and they live and like you mentioned before, 567 00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.119 what was that contagion and things of that, And then 568 00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.280 when that Spielberg movie comes out, you know, I'll rent 569

00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.840 it again so I can stop it. And I'm sure 570 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.119 there's a lot more symbolism that I didn't catch in 571 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:11.599 the theater, But that was one of the most open 572 00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:16.599 face slap insults that they're not even hiding their evil 573 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.920 anymore and people still don't understand it. I think that's 574 00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:20.960 the frustrating part. 575 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.840 Yeah. I meant to go see that one, but I 576 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.119 haven't gotten a chance to go take a look at 577 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:34.719 it yet. But yeah, yeah, I think it's crazy. One 578 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.760 of the like at the beginning of movies, they have 579 00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.480 a Universal Studio for Universal Real. 580 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:43.320 The globe planet. 581 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.719 Yeah, and that goes all the way back to nineteen 582 00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:51.280 twenty seven with the little airplanes lying around the planet. Yeah, 583 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:57.119 it's just crazy programming and it's generations long. And I 584 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:03.159 think there's an interesting thing thing about movies. Usually at 585 00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:08.760 the very beginning of movies, there's a something they'll like 586 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.880 sneak in some truth at the very beginning of movies 587 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:17.400 I've noticed. I can't think of a specific example at 588 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:20.719 the moment, but yeah, so the first part of. 589 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.920 The movie is like disclosure and then they cover the 590 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:28.159 rest of it with entertainment. Yeah, that makes sense. That's 591 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.280 their twisted way of saying they told us so, because 592 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.159 that's part of the magic with a case. They have 593 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.920 to disclose what they're doing to us, and we accept it. 594 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.760 And I've always said that we buy into our own demise, 595 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:47.280 we use their monetary system, just all of it. Yeah. 596 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:54.039 Yeah, one example of truth disclosed in a movie that 597 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.719 I came across as My girlfriend right now loves the 598 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:03.960 Wicked series and she's great. I love her to death. 599 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.320 But we went to the theater and saw that and 600 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.360 there's the it's the second one, Wicked two. There's a 601 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:17.519 song that the Wizard sings and I can't remember the 602 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.480 name of it off the top of my head, but 603 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.159 it's he's got a globe in his hands the whole time, 604 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.119 and he's like singing this

song about how history is 605 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:32.079 just what we want to say, or it's interesting. If 606 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.000 you get a chance, look that up. 607 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.400 That's a double whammy. You have the Globe, and then 608 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.679 you have them saying I am happy that more people 609 00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.559 are waking up to the textbooks mcgral Hill and Gaslainne 610 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:48.760 Maxwell's father, Rand mcgrawl hill, and Apolo Management. And when 611 00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.400 you find out who is creating these history books, like, 612 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.079 I was blown away. Pardon me, I mentioned I didn't 613 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.079 read for a night four fifty one until I got 614 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:03.119 into college. I had no inkling of what the USS 615 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:07.199 liberty was until it was history too, or some advanced 616 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.880 history class I took. It was a paragraph about it. 617 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.800 I was like, what the USS liberty? And then you know, However, 618 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.559 many years later, I'm interviewing these guys on my podcast 619 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.760 who were on the boat that day and describing it, 620 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.400 and I'm just They're like, yes, the US flag was there, Yes, 621 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.239 we called fifth Fleet, Yes they turned their back on us. 622 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.880 And it's just when you hear it from someone who 623 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.360 was there, and then you've read the history books and 624 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.440 you get fact check if you go on you know now, 625 00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.400 because if you google something, it'll take you straight to 626 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.760 their AI first the gatekeeping. 627 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.920 Yeah, the blue box, Oh my yeah, blue box. And 628 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.400 that's the problem. That's one of my silver bullets is 629 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:53.079 those blue boxes you you type something into YouTube and 630 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:56.039 if a blue box appears, maybe you should look into 631 00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:56.800 it a little more. 632 00:42:58.280 --> 00:42:59.719 The blue box on YouTube. 633 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.559 Oh yeah, the fact checking. 634 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:06.199 That's right, that's right. 635 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:10.119 Yeah, flat earth is an archaic whatever it says. 636 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.159 Yeah, so I'm clicking on flat earth right now, Let's 637 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.440 see what comes up. Ten deniable proofs the Earth is flat. 638 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.280 That's the very first one, beyond the veil. And then 639 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:26.280 you click on it. Of course it's got a ball. Yeah, 640 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:28.360 there's the there's the blue box. 641 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:34.039 Yeah. When I was first starting out trying to you know, disprove, 642 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.760 you know, just trying to trying to in my mind, 643 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:41.800 trying to figure out one way or the other, either 644 00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:44.800 it's a ball or it's not right. That's that was 645 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:50.360 one of the first evidences, was the censorship. I'm like, 646 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.320 why can't I find something that's not biased? You know, 647 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.039 why is it so difficult? The first one though, was 648 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:04.800 I got on there and I wanted to see like 649 00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:09.159 pictures and video of the planet, right, And so I 650 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.880 got on YouTube and I typed in live feed view 651 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:18.960 from the iss of the Earth, and I got on 652 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.719 there and I'm watching it. I'm like, okay, yeah, that 653 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.599 I don't see any problem with it. And then you know, 654 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.119 I'm watching it for about maybe not even ten minutes, 655 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.280 and part of the Earth comes into view in the 656 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.400 small area that they give you to see the Earth 657 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.559 because there's still like obstructions and stuff, which is crazy. 658 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.239 You should like, if it were real, you should be 659 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.119 able to have an unhindered open view of the Earth, right, 660 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.119 But it cuts out and it cuts back in and 661 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.760 it says it's offline. But anyway, I see this part 662 00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.719 of the Earth and it's cloud cover. And that's what 663 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.880 I found is the easiest way to see the CGI 664 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:10.920 is the stitching. And it's the easiest to see when 665 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:16.079 there's cloud cover because there's this line that goes across 666 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:22.719 the face of the Earth, and half the clouds look normal, 667 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.199 and then half the clouds they're like in a completely 668 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:30.679 different pattern, so you can tell it's stitching between the CGI. 669 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.760 And I was listening to the Joe Rogan podcast and 670 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.639 they pulled up It was so crazy because there was 671 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.679 a guy on there, I can't remember his name offhand, 672 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:46.599 but he was talking about flatter Earth and they ended 673 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.880 up pulling up a YouTube video of the ISS live 674 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:51.880 feed and they saw the same thing that I had 675 00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:56.239 seen like six months before, and the guy that's talking 676 00:45:56.280

--> 00:45:59.039 about flat Earth is like, what is that? What is 677 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.760 that line? That's the same thing that I was seeing 678 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.480 and thinking, So that was just kind of cool. I 679 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:11.480 have a roommate at home. His name well, I won't 680 00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.599 give you his name, but he's deaf and I'm starting 681 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:18.440 to I'm getting pretty good at sign language, and me 682 00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:22.119 and him will have pretty good conversations about flat Earth 683 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.320 and he's he's pretty much come around and like I've 684 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:32.519 had to tell him everything that I've been learning, like oversigned, 685 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.559 So it's been pretty cool. He's a good friend. But yeah, 686 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.000 I showed him that stitching line and the Earth was 687 00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.360 like talking to him about it and the moon landing 688 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.880 and all this other stuff. But yeah, have you. 689 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.239 Ever seen on Google Earth when they try to draw 690 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:54.840 like a circle around Antarctica? It just breaks? No, that's 691 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.320 pretty I haven't. And do you think there's anything to 692 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.199 to me? I think the reason they're in Antarctica is 693 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:03.440 that's the closest they can get to the firmament, But 694 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.360 do you think there's something too? There's more to the 695 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.199 North Pole And I'm just using that terminology, but the 696 00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:14.840 geocentric center of the Earth than we believe, whether it's 697 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.280 magnet something magnetism or something like that. 698 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:24.960 Yeah, I think so it's all just speculations. I'm I 699 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:26.519 don't have the ability to go there. 700 00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:27.239 Of course. 701 00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.679 I did think it was interesting not too long ago 702 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:36.239 that there's this thing on HBO or Discovery or something 703 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.760 like that. It was Will Smith and he goes from 704 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:45.679 pole to pole just watching that was interesting, Like they 705 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.039 try to make it look like he actually went to 706 00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.920 a South pole and he went to the North Pole 707 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.559 and it was just water and icebergs, and he's like 708 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.599 in a dive suit going under the water. He's like, 709 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.519 I'm at the North Pole. I don't believe it for 710 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.440 a second, But I do think it's interesting that you 711 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.199 can go on Google Earth and you try to look 712 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:11.960 at Antarctica and it's all blocked out. Yeah, too many 713 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:13.199 things stone add up. 714 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.559 Yeah, that goes back to us funding our own demise. 715 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:18.360 We are actively our taxpayer money is going to NASA, 716 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:24.199 which is honestly, you know, going back to the fifties 717 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.320 when they were trying to launch these rockets into the 718 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.320 firmament with Operation fish Bowl, and you know, I think 719 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.480 there was a lot more to World War Two than 720 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.400 what were led to believe. You know, Germany did have 721 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:40.440 that fleet of ships down at Antarctica. They said, Oh, 722 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.239 they were just down there getting you know, the whales 723 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.960 for the butter or margarine or whatever it was. There's 724 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.800 always more to the story and who knows. 725 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.440 Yeah, for sure. Antarctica came up in a discussion that 726 00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:02.559 I had with a bunch of friends not too long ago. 727 00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:08.159 It was actually a pretty interesting conversation. Uh, it was 728 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.320 kind of a god thing. Like I've been studying everything 729 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:19.559 to do with flatter since August of last year, and 730 00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:23.760 I've been just collecting information. Like we talk about movies 731 00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.239 and you've talked about the matrix before, Like if the 732 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.679 matrix were an analogy of my life, I feel like 733 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:37.039 COVID was waking up in the pod and then getting 734 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.199 turned onto your podcast is like jacking into the matrix 735 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:46.159 and just like getting information fed, you know, like learning 736 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.719 all this stuff, but you have to have an outlet 737 00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:56.760 and like constantly learning all all this stuff, like being 738 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.519 deep down in the rabbit hole for a long time. 739 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.239 I felt like I got to like tell this to people. 740 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:11.519 So anyway, the conversation about Antarctica how that came up is, 741 00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.920 I'm pretty big into pickleball. I don't know, have you 742 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:18.360 ever played pickleball. 743 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.719 Once or twice? I know it's huge, you know, down 744 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.679 in the Beach area especially, there's hundreds of pickleball courts 745 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:27.199 down there that even have Major League pickleball now. It's 746 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:28.000 a booming sport.

747 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.440 Yeah. So I'm a pretty avid pickleball player. I've played 748 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.280 in quite a few tournaments, like seven or eight now, 749 00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.360 which is kind of a small number to some people. 750 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:43.519 But I kind of coordinate WhatsApp group where I live 751 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.639 up here, and it's called the Bangers. So the Bangers. 752 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.599 A banger is basically a pickleball player that plays really 753 00:50:54.480 --> 00:51:01.480 kind of avidly and ferociously, doesn't any I have a 754 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.280 a WhatsApp group that's got about two hundred people in it, 755 00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:09.639 and I also have a separate men's pickleball group on WhatsApp. 756 00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:15.159 So it's just you know, WhatsApp is yeah messaging application. 757 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.519 So in order to get into this men's pickleball group, 758 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.039 what we do is it's me and two other guys 759 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.239 that are admin's of the group, and it's kind of 760 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:36.719 like a initiation process, I guess is what you could 761 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.400 call it. So we we just started doing this thing 762 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.199 called the Gauntlet of Questions. So in order to get 763 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.800 into this group and get voted in by the other members, 764 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.840 you have to, you know, receive the invitation, get it 765 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.559 into the group, and then answer all these questions. And 766 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.440 it's me that is asking all these questions, and you know, 767 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.559 basically for the majority of it is pickleball questions, but 768 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.360 then I'll throw in off the cuff other questions and 769 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.880 just for the heck of it, I felt led to 770 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.679 be like, okay, is the earth flat around? And this 771 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.239 new guy that got brought into the group, he immediately 772 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:24.920 clicked flat nice yeah, And I was just like, that's cool. 773 00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.920 And I know this kid, he's maybe eighteen or nineteen. 774 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:36.440 I met him a couple of times, played together. But 775 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.039 back up a little bit, before we did the questions, 776 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.400 we would have guys tell an embarrassing story to get 777 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.719 into the group. Well, his embarrassing story when he just 778 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.000 got into the group was that he got hit by 779 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:53.000 a nasty nelson by me, which a nasty nelson if 780 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.000 you don't know what that is. And pickleball, it's where 781 00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.159 you're serving and you don't serve it to the player 782 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.119 on the right, you try to hit the player on 783 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.480 the left right off the bat, and so his embarrassing 784 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.320 story was that he got hit by me and fell 785 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:11.599 on his butt. So anyway, hey, he clicks flat. I'm like, ah, 786 00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:15.920 that's cool, and he's you know, nobody says anything. There's 787 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.920 about thirty five guys in this group, and uh. Later 788 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.000 on in the conversation, after the questions are done, he 789 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.559 gets voted into the group. One of my other good 790 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.840 friends says, Okay, so if the Earth were flat, how 791 00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.039 come you can see different stars at southern latitudes? And like, 792 00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:36.079 so I'm like, I'm not just going to let this 793 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.239 kid stand on his own, so I click flat in 794 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:43.280 the same pole question and then it just turns into 795 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:48.840 this very large conversation that lasted two days. Is basically 796 00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:54.840 a flat Earth rounder a debate, and I felt shaky 797 00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:59.280 going into it, but it really like there was a 798 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:03.400 lot of questions and a lot of people were well 799 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:05.719 maybe one main guy he was just like, there is 800 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.199 not flat what about this and this and this and this, 801 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:13.360 you know, but it was just really cool to be 802 00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.480 able to like have a debate on flat Earth, and like, 803 00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:23.159 I feel like it's uh It wasn't a point where 804 00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.840 I was leaving breadcrumbs. It was just like I was 805 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.039 stating facts like you can see over the curve there, 806 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:33.440 you can't have gas next to a vacuum. But I 807 00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:36.440 was saying, like, oh, the other thing of one of 808 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.079 the guys in our group, he was flying for back 809 00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:43.679 home from San Diego to Seattle, and he's like, okay, well, 810 00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.079 I have a level on my iPhone. I'm just going 811 00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:49.000 to put it up to the window, and everybody was 812 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:50.760 able to see the bubble right in the middle or 813 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:53.679 the zero, whatever the level is on an iPhone. But 814 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.679 it was just really kind of cool. And he was 815 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.920 getting a little bit belligerent, like you still believe in 816 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:06.079 the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. Yeah, so I

you know, 817 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:12.599 I was very gracious and like, thank you, this is 818 00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.360 a great discussion. I'm having a lot of fun with it. 819 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:18.519 And at the end of it he said, Okay, no 820 00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:21.800 more nonsense. I'm out. I'm like, all right, I appreciate 821 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.039 the conversation. So it was really cool. 822 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:28.159 You were really challenging his beliefs and he got scared. 823 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.719 And that's when people they get into this weird fight 824 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:36.360 or flight thing. With the conversation that that's not even 825 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.199 physically threatening, it's mentally threatening. And they do the same thing. 826 00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.159 They throw a bunch of arrows at you and run 827 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.480 away because they've run out of retorts to you, so 828 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.960 that the easy way out is just to say, oh, 829 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.760 you're silly. You must also believe in the tooth Fairy 830 00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.599 and Santa Claus. I'm out of here, right, And that's 831 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.039 what people do. And you did the right thing by 832 00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:58.360 being gracious, not to you know, to pile on or 833 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:01.760 anything like that, because we have to be gracious, you know, 834 00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.719 we don't gloat about the truth. We're just telling the truth. 835 00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:09.960 Right, Yeah. Absolutely. And there were points where he brought 836 00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:14.679 up things that I, you know, questions that I didn't know. 837 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:21.239 Like he brought up okay, the stars in the southern 838 00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:24.360 latitudes and how they spin around a completely different point 839 00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.559 than Polaris, and another question about eclipses that I really 840 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:34.519 didn't know the answer to, and I wasn't afraid to 841 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.239 just be like, you know, the answer to your question 842 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.519 is I don't know. I can find out yep, you know. 843 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.480 And that's what science is about it. It's man making 844 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:47.000 up these you know, mathematical equations to make up for 845 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.159 things that they don't know. But the truth is, and 846 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.119 this is where you have to understand, there's a spiritual 847 00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:55.480 context to it. Is the Lord We're not going to know. 848 00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.719 To think that we can comprehend how God created the universe, 849 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.960 that that's really bold of us to think. Sometimes it's 850 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:05.360 okay to say I just don't know. 851 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:12.599 Yeah, and it's freeing you. I don't have to know everything, 852 00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:15.719 and I'm I'm cool with that. It's the guy is 853 00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.039 that I think they know everything. They get so upset 854 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.639 and they have to have an answer for every you know, 855 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.679 just you know, be humble, like there might be something 856 00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.159 that you don't know. And for me, yeah, there's definitely 857 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:36.239 things that I don't know. I you know, less than 858 00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:38.719 a year ago, I knew the world was a globe 859 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:44.159 and now no, it's not. So you just need to 860 00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.280 be humble and learn. 861 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.400 Has that helps you that the entire veil drop, Like 862 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:52.360 do you see everything for what it is now? Like 863 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.119 the sunglasses are on and you can just see the 864 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:56.039 world for what it is. 865 00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:05.639 Yeah, It's it's an amazing thing. Like to realize that 866 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:11.400 I've lived, you know, forty one years on this plane 867 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.760 and thought it was something when it's definitely not, and 868 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.239 it's it's really cool, Like I get that, Like some 869 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:30.480 people get really down when and kind of isolate a 870 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.079 little bit, and I was at that point too, like 871 00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:37.599 when I was just getting all this information and I 872 00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:42.800 was feeling like excluded. But you know, once you understand, 873 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:46.880 you know that God placed us here and that he 874 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.679 loves us and cares about us, and he designed all 875 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.559 of this for us, and like that was my mindset 876 00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:00.840 previous to understanding this. But you know, it just the 877 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.519 scripture comes alive in a whole new way, like you 878 00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.960 really focus on what you're reading a lot more. Yeah, 879 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:15.920 and yeah, it just it kind of becomes exciting also 880 00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:21.159 in the fact that you know, for the fourth first however, 881 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.239 long in my life, you know, life was just mundane. 882 00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.639 I hated school because I feel like in the back 883 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:30.280 of my mind, like I don't understand this and it 884 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.400 doesn't make sense to me. And now I look back, like, yeah, 885 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:37.519 it's because it was stupid, you know, the majority of 886 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:43.360 it besides reading, writing and arithmetic.

But like once you 887 00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:48.639 understand the real the reality of where we live, it's 888 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:54.280 life becomes a heck of a lot more interesting. I 889 00:59:54.320 --> 01:00:00.599 feel like and you know, like once COVID came and 890 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.960 I understood what the vaccines were and how you know, 891 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.840 Bill Gates and Pfizer and all these billionaires that want 892 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:13.400 to depopulate, you know, they're coming after people, and people 893 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:16.840 don't understand it. It's like, okay, yeah, we have an 894 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:22.000 enemy and there is evil in the world. So I 895 01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:30.719 don't know something about that just like fires up your heart, 896 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:31.320 you know. 897 01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.519 It really does. Do you think that they would be 898 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.800 able to pull that off again in our lifetime or 899 01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:38.519 do you think there's a reason they only try to 900 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:41.199 pull that off once every hundred years, like with COVID 901 01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:43.880 or a black plague or whatever. 902 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:48.159 If they tried it again. I don't have a lot 903 01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:51.679 of faith that people would stand up against it. I 904 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:57.119 know I would again, even though it was very difficult 905 01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.639 at the time and it took me a few years 906 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.400 to get back on my feet again. But uh, I 907 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:08.760 don't know. I don't It's hard to say what people's 908 01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:15.119 mindsets are anymore. Yeah, I don't know. 909 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:19.320 Yeah, what was it like? I think I'm sorry, go ahead, Oh. 910 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:26.199 I think prayers are ultimate weapon. Pray that people open 911 01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:28.360 up and understand what's really going on. 912 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.440 Paris powerful. We don't do it enough, that's for sure. 913 01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:36.840 When when you were you know, you'd mentioned you were 914 01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.880 escorted out of Boeing. How many other people do you 915 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.320 recall that that stood up and said no, thank. 916 01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:48.039 You, None, just you? Yeah, just me. I remember getting 917 01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:53.039 walked out of the factory. That factory is the biggest 918 01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.920 building in the world as far as square footage goes. 919 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:01.360 And I remember getting walked out two managers and two 920 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:07.400 union stewards and I smoked on my way out. It's 921 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.239 kind of like my Johnny Cash moment. 922 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:15.199 That's hilarious. Yeah, you know what,

that's interesting. You say 923 01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:18.920 that Boeing, you know, most of their money they get, 924 01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:22.320 I would venture to say, is from the military industrial complex. 925 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.880 Is that fair to say? 926 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:30.159 Yeah? I guess so. I don't. I haven't really looked 927 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:31.000 into that too much. 928 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:34.519 I pulled it up real quick. Lockheed Martiner and sorry, 929 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.400 Lockheed Martin is number one, Boeing is number three, is 930 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.440 the third largest defense contractor. So yeah, another one of 931 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.719 these companies who is funded through you know, constant war 932 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.719 that we've been in since you know, basically since we 933 01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.039 turned our money into play money. Now we have this 934 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.519 endless supply we can just go into debt forever. We 935 01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:57.679 can make all the tanks and planes that we want to. 936 01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:00.199 Who cares about the debt as long as we make that, 937 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.639 you know, quarterly interest payment. I didn't know that building 938 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:05.280 was the Was that in an Oregon? 939 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.960 No, that's up here in Everett, Washington. 940 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.519 Oh, okay, I've been there, I think twice in my life. 941 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:17.239 Most recent was twenty eighteen when my buddy twenty seventeen, 942 01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:20.320 twenty eighteen, my buddy were retired from what is that 943 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:22.480 JB Joint Base McCord up there. 944 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:25.000 Yeah, it used to be. 945 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:28.000 Called Fort Lewis. Flew into SeaTac We were up there, 946 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.360 saw the Tacoma Dome and hung out. There's very beautiful, 947 01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.719 which leads me to my next question. Do you guys 948 01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:35.280 get a lot of chemtrails up there? 949 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.320 Yeah? And it's generally rainy the next day. 950 01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:43.719 Yeah, we see the same thing that they'll spray and 951 01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.079 then it's always when the pressure changes and it feels 952 01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.639 like just like during Operation Popeye. They used to do 953 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.000 it before the precipitation and it would amplify it. 954 01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:56.679 Okay, Yeah, I see them every once in a while. 955 01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:00.599 I've seen pictures of it. Like crisscrossing the sky really bad. 956 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:05.400 But generally it's only two or three that I see 957 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:12.440 at the most in one day. But I noticed it. Yeah. 958 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.039 That the one thing I'm looking at your email, the 959 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.079 one thing we haven't mentioned yet. What do you think 960 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:18.039 the ISS is? 961 01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:28.280 Uh, well, if you're looking at it at night, I 962 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.679 think it's probably a high altitude plane with lights on 963 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:38.519 it going across the sky. I don't know, that's a 964 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.840 good question. I know there's nothing up in space because 965 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:46.880 nobody gets past the firmament. So the other interesting thing 966 01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.639 about the ISS is there's nothing that has been there's 967 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:55.519 no videos of it being built. It just appeared up there. 968 01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:03.159 And yeah, all this fake NASA videos of people floating 969 01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.039 on wires up there and the CGI stuff that floats around. 970 01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:12.840 It's just so crazy. Once you understand it and you 971 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:16.159 have eyes to see that stuff, and then you try 972 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.440 to tell other people about it and like, oh, you're crazy, 973 01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.159 Like just look at it, like look at it for 974 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:25.079 with an open mind. 975 01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:30.320 Yeah. I think one is the Lockheed U two. That's 976 01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.360 the one they call the Dragon Lady. I think that's 977 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:37.000 the one that can fly seventy thousand feet. 978 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:45.800 Yeah, and if you google it. 979 01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:47.920 The primary users is the CIA. 980 01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:58.400 So there you go, right, Uh one thing that uh 981 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:01.639 nobody else. Well, I'm sure it's been mentioned on here before. 982 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:05.320 But that old movie A Trip to the Moon. Have 983 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:08.679 you seen that obviously, I'm sure you have. Yeah. Yeah, 984 01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:14.719 that's a pretty crazy movie once you understand like what's 985 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.519 reality and you go back and watch that movie, kind 986 01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.480 of like the whole Disney thing. Yeah, like a bunch 987 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:26.920 of a bunch of wizards put together this insane idea 988 01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:27.760 of going to the moon. 989 01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:29.400 Yeah. 990 01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:35.519 Yeah, when you look into Freemasonry and Satanists and the 991 01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:40.559 evil that is trying to you know, confuse the world. 992 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:47.400 Yeah, I think that guy who produced it or directed it, 993 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.639 I think he was a French guy, but I think 994 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.920 he was also into magic and all that other stuff. 995 01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:55.159 Yeah, I have to go

back. 996 01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.800 And watch it. An old old movie. It was early 997 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:01.199 nineteen hundreds, but yeah, I need to go back and 998 01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:03.679 watch that for sure, and even look to see, you know, 999 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:07.119 who wrote it and all that other stuff. Because again, 1000 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:09.559 I think there was a book that came out in 1001 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:11.880 the late eighteen eighties that was one of the first 1002 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:13.880 thing to start planning the seed and then A Trip 1003 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.239 to the Moon. I think was the first, certainly was 1004 01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.000 the first kind of movie that planted that seed. 1005 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:24.039 Yeah, old movies are interesting, even around the world in 1006 01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:26.639 eighty days. Oh yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. At 1007 01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:29.920 the beginning, they're talking about how they're going to do 1008 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:35.159 this trip around the world, and they're arguing over whether 1009 01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:37.800 it can be done or not, and they're talking about 1010 01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:42.920 read look, study your globe. Yeah, study your globe. One 1011 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.239 other thing that I noticed it was interesting the other day. 1012 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:53.920 I was looking at presidential portraits and there's a couple 1013 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.639 that have a globe in them. I just thought that 1014 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:01.480 was interesting, just looking at different presidential portraits and what 1015 01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:05.480 they're holding and what's on their desks and other things. 1016 01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:10.079 So I did a podcast on this years ago. You 1017 01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:15.000 know Samuel Morse, he's the guy who created the Morse Code. 1018 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:19.079 You know BBBPP, that guy. Yeah, everybody knows him for that, 1019 01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:22.560 but they didn't know he was a hugely accomplished painter 1020 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:28.159 and he did a lot of paintings of presidents in 1021 01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:32.079 the I want to say the eighteen thirties to eighteen fifties. 1022 01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:36.399 I'll have to look it up. But there was also 1023 01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:43.079 another connection to him where he called out the Jesuits. 1024 01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.640 There was a very interesting connection there as well. 1025 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:57.960 Yeah, one thing also, I wanted to say, we're talking 1026 01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:01.880 about movies, have you ever seen the movie Enders Game? 1027 01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:05.600 That's very familiar. I'm sure I have, but I can't 1028 01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:06.760 picture it right now. 1029 01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:11.000 Okay, it's got Harrison Ford in it, and I can't 1030

01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:13.000 remember the name of the kid that is the main 1031 01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:20.079 character in it. But it's basically it was a Robert 1032 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.880 Robert Hyland book if I'm remembering that correctly. But the movie, 1033 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.880 you it's basically they get this kid who's really smart, 1034 01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:35.800 and they have to the point of the movie is 1035 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:39.520 they're training these kids to play basically a video game 1036 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:46.199 to destroy this alien culture on a different planet. And 1037 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:51.640 what they do is they they run them through simulations 1038 01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:59.800 like basically every foreseeable thing that could happen in this war. 1039 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:01.720 We're going to take you through it and see how 1040 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:05.640 you do and how you defeat it. It's basically endless simulation. 1041 01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:09.960 And then at the end of the movie, hopefully I'm 1042 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:16.159 not spoiling it for anybody, but it's like the last simulation. 1043 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:22.319 It's the hardest difficulty basically, and you have to take 1044 01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:26.920 out this alien planet and do your best try everything 1045 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:32.479 that we've taught you to do this and try to 1046 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:36.159 complete this last simulation. And at the end, the twist 1047 01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:38.920 is that it wasn't a swim simulation. It was real 1048 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:46.119 and the alien planet gets destroyed, and Ender at the 1049 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.880 end is like devastated because he just attacked and killed 1050 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.119 this alien species and he feels bad about it. But 1051 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:59.880 that makes me think of Mission Control and NASA and 1052 01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:03.079 how you look back at those videos and you watch 1053 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:06.079 the movies like Apollo thirteen and how all that went 1054 01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:12.119 Like it makes me wonder could it have been like 1055 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:16.880 they did so many simulations and test trends with Mission 1056 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:22.199 Control that they didn't realize like the last mission was fake? 1057 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:25.399 Because do you know what I'm saying. 1058 01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:30.479 Like a La Capricorn one, I haven't seen that. 1059 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:30.960 I need to. 1060 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:33.520 Oh yeah, you definitely need to. It's free. If it's 1061 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.680 still it's been free on YouTube for a while. Okay, 1062 01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.000 you can check it out. It's you know, these guys, 1063 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:43.319 I think it's very truth telling. They're but except of 1064 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:44.760 course they're not going to the Moon. I think they're 1065 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:47.239 going to Mars maybe, And you know, they get in 1066 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.920 their outfits and they wheel them out to the rocket 1067 01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:52.520 and the guy comes up in his cia looking suit. 1068 01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:55.600 Gentlemen come with me, and they're like, what, So it's 1069 01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.359 kind of them saying that, you know, Neil Armstrong and 1070 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:01.119 the guys truly thought up in to like the moment 1071 01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.640 they were about to board the capsule, that they were 1072 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.680 truly going to the moon. And I'm glad you mentioned 1073 01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:10.239 that because that is the older I get and the 1074 01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.680 more I have these conversations outside of the Bible, right, 1075 01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:17.920 that is one of the most telling things. Brother, if 1076 01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:22.119 you or I stepped on the moon, the first human 1077 01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.479 to step on the moon, you know how many endorsements 1078 01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.920 and TV shows and walking up and down the streets 1079 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:32.119 giving everyone high fives that that guy looked like it 1080 01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.800 was the worst day of his life at that press conference. 1081 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:39.000 Yeah, and for pretty much the rest of his life 1082 01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:42.960 after that too. I watched Sixty Minutes with Ed Bradley 1083 01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:47.039 with Neil Armstrong on it, and even at you know, 1084 01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:49.079 the end of his life. I don't know how old 1085 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:55.399 he was, seventy something, he just looked discouraged, like it 1086 01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:57.560 was so hard for him to keep the smile on 1087 01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:01.960 his face. That would be that would kind of be 1088 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.439 like a living hell, living a life for however many years. 1089 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.279 There's no other way to put it. You had you 1090 01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:13.560 played a part in perpetuating the biggest lie in human history. 1091 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:17.800 I mean he had to drik himself to sleep every 1092 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:19.199 night or else he couldn't. 1093 01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:24.600 Right, Yeah, that's crazy to think about. 1094 01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:27.680 Yeah, and I'm sure because didn't they I'll have to 1095 01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:29.800 go back. I don't remember the exact amount of time, 1096 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:32.239 but when they came back, they had to be I'm 1097 01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:35.640 an air quote here for the folks listening quarantining. Didn't 1098 01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:37.439 they have to be quarantined for X amount of days? 1099 01:13:37.439 -->

01:13:39.439 That was probably them standing over top of them with 1100 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:42.279 pictures of their family and their children at the park. 1101 01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:44.239 You know, you say one word, you see these kids, 1102 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:46.399 they'll they'll never see the lead of day again. 1103 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:52.279 Yeah. I remember watching a video They're in the quarantine 1104 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.640 tank and Richard Nixon is right there by the glass 1105 01:13:55.640 --> 01:14:01.840 talking to him. M hm that's right, My gosh. Yeah, 1106 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:06.479 it's just that's so crazy going back and watching those 1107 01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.760 like I had never seen them before. I never had 1108 01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:17.680 the the I don't know, the drive to watch anything 1109 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:19.760 like that because I never thought it was like I 1110 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:23.039 will always love Star Wars and Star Trek and but 1111 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:28.119 you know that kind of space in movies is a 1112 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:32.119 lot different than NASA's space. But yeah, going back and 1113 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.880 watching that, you can just it's like such bad acting. 1114 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:42.760 It's terrible. And somebody mentioned that, you know, imagine fulfilling 1115 01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:46.279 your childhood dream, yet you hardly ever want to talk 1116 01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:48.279 about it. That in itself says it all. 1117 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:56.800 Yeah, and watching the new Artemis two theater, that's that's 1118 01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:06.239 funny to me. Also, is it Christine McCulloch forgot her lines? Yeah? 1119 01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:13.199 Yeah, she did. Amazing. Man, this has been quite a conversation. 1120 01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:16.399 We're down to our last few minutes. Was there anything 1121 01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:19.359 else that you wanted to mention before we parted ways? 1122 01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.680 I'll give you. I have a list. I don't know 1123 01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:31.720 how many it is, but like silver bullets, yeah please, okay, Yeah. 1124 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.960 The top one was, well, I have on here the 1125 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:40.960 Life of Neil Armstrong. That's funny, we're just talking about it. 1126 01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:45.680 The Red Bull Jump. If you look and watch the 1127 01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:50.399 Red Bull Jump, a lot of people talk about how 1128 01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:54.079 the horizon like flip flops, how it's inverted and then 1129 01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:58.560 it looks round. But if you look at that video 1130 01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.760 at the earth under him, there's no water. It's all 1131 01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:11.159 just land. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, old films, the blue boxes. 1132 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:18.800 When you look up flat Earth or anything conspiratory on YouTube, 1133 01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:28.680 you get a blue Wikipedia box steering you away from truth. Yeah, 1134 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:32.880 no stars in all of the pictures of Earth from space. 1135 01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.079 And I put prayer as one of my silver bullets 1136 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:41.239 because I think that's the most effective thing that we 1137 01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:43.880 can do, is pray for the people that we're going 1138 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.920 to talk to or have talked to, you know, and 1139 01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.880 it you know, it's not a salvation issue, but like 1140 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:55.199 you say, and other people have said, it can keep 1141 01:16:55.279 --> 01:17:00.239 you from salvation if you're so far into pseudoscience that 1142 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:03.960 you can't believe that what the Bible says, you know, 1143 01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:07.119 like Dave Weiss was for a long time. 1144 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:08.199 Yep, great point. 1145 01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:15.680 Yeah. Yeah. In the Bible it talks about the water 1146 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:20.199 canopy of the firmament, and all the way growing up 1147 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:23.680 going to church, I was always told by pastors that 1148 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:29.359 that dissipated after the flood because the canopy came down 1149 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.319 and that's what flooded the earth. But it doesn't say 1150 01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.119 that in the Bible. It doesn't say that the firmament 1151 01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:41.279 left at some point, so we can conclude that it's 1152 01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:41.880 still there. 1153 01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:47.000 That's right, by the way, feeling s Bomgardner. He died 1154 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:49.319 last summer almost a year ago. 1155 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:52.000 Is that the red bull Jumper? Yeah? 1156 01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:56.520 Yeah, okay, Oh, I always thought that timing the July 1157 01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:00.560 seventeenth day, because I think the Apollo eleventh off about 1158 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.680 nine thirty in the morning on the sixteenth of July, 1159 01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:05.479 and then they say on the seventeenth it made the 1160 01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:09.960 correction steer or whatever, and then you know ly was 1161 01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:12.000 the July twentieth they landed on the moon, which is 1162 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:14.159 the two hundred first day of the year, which is 1163 01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:16.479 like event two oh one, and that number two o 1164 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.239 one is everywhere. But yeah, always found that interesting that 1165 01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:23.279 he died at such an early you know, he was 1166 01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.720 my age. 1167 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.479 Yeah. And artem is two taken off on April Fool's Day. 1168 01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:36.079 Yeah, that's right. Oh man, you can't make this stuff up.

Well, brother, 1169 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.680 this has been a tremendous conversation. I appreciate you taking 1170 01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:42.119 your lunch break with us and sharing your story. It's 1171 01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:45.399 been a wonderful conversation. As always, before we go, I'll 1172 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:46.479 leave the final word to you. 1173 01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:56.680 Uh. I guess I would just say keep your focus 1174 01:18:56.760 --> 01:19:05.439 on Jesus and truth is important and stay in prayer 1175 01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:09.439 and pray for the people that you talk to, and 1176 01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:13.239 let it not just be about flat earth but also 1177 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:19.640 salvation and share them the Gospel with people. And yeah, 1178 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.159 it's just been an honor talking to you, George. Thank you. 1179 01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.439 Likewise, Scotti, thank you, God bless you and your family, 1180 01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:29.199 and I appreciate you taking the time. It's been a 1181 01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:33.640 great conversation. And to all the listeners out there, we're 1182 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:36.399 ramping back up for the summer, so we have some 1183 01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:38.560 dates to fill in July or August. So if you'd 1184 01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:40.439 like to come on and share your story like Scotty 1185 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.399 did today, please reach out to us fe Files guest 1186 01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:45.840 at gmail dot com the links. I have a lot 1187 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.920 of links for this episode for sure, So thank you 1188 01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:53.279 all for your continued support. And yes, Scott's email address 1189 01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:54.800 will be in the notes as well in case you'd 1190 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.119 like to reach out to him. For Scott, I'm George. 1191 01:19:57.119 --> 01:19:59.000 God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel 1192 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:01.439 and Christ in your heart. And until we meet again, 1193 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.319 my friends, we will see. 1194 01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:30.680 The city stood before us in the morning, haze, ancient 1195 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:37.920 storms and dying gates crowd in all their ways, The 1196 01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.479 warriors watched from the. 1197 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:48.640 Battle and above, trusting in their strength instead. 1198 01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:50.560 Of God above. 1199 01:20:53.800 --> 01:21:00.960 The true bid had not sounded, the battle not begun yet, the. 1200 01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:04.039 Lord hadn't made a promise. 1201 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:07.520 Of the victory one. 1202 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:13.720 So we walked in silent circles beneath the desert sky, 1203 01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:17.920 believing what he told us. 1204 01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:20.960 The reason Usta was. 1205 01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:29.239 Round and around the walls we go, trusting what the 1206 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:30.800 Lord has. 1207 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:32.800 Spoken on by stone. 1208 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.760 No none could know the mighty gates. 1209 01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:42.880 Would soon be broken by sword, not bad, not by 1210 01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.119 power men command. 1211 01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:50.680 When the voice of God is heard, the strongest war 1212 01:21:51.760 --> 01:22:02.199 fall at his word. 1213 01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:10.840 For six long. 1214 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:16.039 Days we mounched her round without a single battle. Some 1215 01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.880 people marked from high above. 1216 01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:23.439 The faith kept moving out of love. 1217 01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:28.479 Then came the seventh rising sun, the day the Lord 1218 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:29.399 would finish. 1219 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:30.479 What he'd begun. 1220 01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:36.520 Seven times around we walked that ground, waiting for the 1221 01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:43.720 holy sun. Round, then round was we go, trusting what 1222 01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:47.760 the Lord has spoken on by stone. 1223 01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:52.399 No none couldn't know the landing gates would soon be 1224 01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.960 broken by sad. 1225 01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:59.920 And not by and not by power man command. 1226 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.720 When the voice of God is heard. 1227 01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:24.680 The strongest war all at his word. 1228 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:30.439 From bits cried. 1229 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:35.920 To the wind, the people shouted a loudest thunder. The 1230 01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:41.680 earth began to shake beneath and pull the mightiest city under. 1231 01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:45.399 What man had built with fear. 1232 01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:51.479 And pride could not stand. When God decided, every fortress, 1233 01:23:51.960 --> 01:24:04.600 every wall, must bow before the Lord. 1234 01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:10.520 Around them, round the world's vehago, following where he. 1235 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.560 Has led ourvery promise. 1236 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:14.319 He has made it. 1237 01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:19.680 Mighty hand will never fail us, not by sord and 1238 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:24.479 not by help, not by powerman command. 1239 01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:30.079 When the voice of Guy is heard, the strongest war. 1240 01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:48.199 Stall at his word, the loos came down? Who came down? 1241 01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:54.760 And every stone declared the sound. 1242 01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:09.720 The Lord Loone brought Jerry Cold down. 1243 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:20.960 You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. 1244 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:25.560 Just the facts, ma'am.