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pick. 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:35.680 Like I just don't see now, maybe he's that sort of Nico Hesher tier center prospect, like that that kind of first overall pick. 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:40.639 But I think DuPont is more than say the Owen Power first overall pick. 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:47.040 Uh and I think DuPont's got a chance to have a really big year in college and and sort of just be the guy. 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:56.879 And the other element in this is that if there were challengers coming into this season, NHL Scouts felt, frankly, that it was the two Russians and the two Russian wingers. 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:02.879 And the reality is, because of their contract status, it it's just not in the cards. 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:09.120 Like, first overall is just not in the cards for those kids, frankly, I think no matter how well their seasons go. 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:14.800 And obviously Privilov's off to a bit of a weird start where he's just in the KHL, but he's not playing. 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:30.720 And Skortsov has had a couple of moments in the KHL and has put up a couple of points early on, but they they aren't, I don't think, without a just a monstrous season, and I don't think either of them are going to have that, or at least look at this stage like they're going to have that. 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:36.560 As a result, they just aren't going to have enough momentum to catch him. 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:46.720 And so you're it's going to have to, if it's going to be someone, it's going to be a Neuschwander or a Milan Sundstrom or uh someone who's who emerges that we're not quite there on yet. 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.480 Uh, I don't I don't think, frankly, any of those players have it in them though. 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.360 Like I don't think Carter Meyer, you go down the list, I don't think any of those kits are a real threat to Landon. 00:05:55.519 --> 00:06:10.399 So my guess would be that Landon kind of goes pole-to-pole, and that next June on draft day that it's Landon DuPont who's the first overall pick, barring a terrible college season, which with how effective he is and how consistently good he is, I don't think is in the cards. 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:17.279 There are there are nitpicks and criticisms of him and his upside that are real, but at the end of the day, he's going to have a very good year. 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:22.560 He's going to be in the limelight all year, and like McKenna, I think he'll he'll finish as the guy. 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:27.360 You mentioned DuPont probably running the gamut uh beginning to end. 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:33.600 In terms of defensemen, doesn't s this draft doesn't seem to be really rich in high-end D. 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:40.800 Uh is there anyone that you know in terms of defensemen that could potentially rise up a little bit maybe throughout the season? 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.519 No, I mean not at this stage. 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.959 After Landon, you're right to to sort of identify that it's a it's a weak D class. 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.360 Um now we've been spoiled a little bit. 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.040 I I sort of mentioned 2024. 00:06:53.120 --> 00:07:01.519 Obviously, in 2024, you had Naziv Boyam and Zayn Perek and Sam Dickinson and Anton Salayev and Carter Yakimchuk, and you go down the list, right? 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:08.079 Artie Levchanov, like there were five or six legit D in that age group, and that's they're there last year, same thing, right? 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:27.360 There was Albert Smitz and Keaton Verhoff and uh Carson Carls and Chase Reed and Daxon Rudolph and Malty Gustafson kind of emerged, and and there was just that sort of glut of okay, the typical draft class of five or six guys who have a chance to be top 10, top 15 picks. 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.199 This draft, you're not going to see. 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:38.800 I don't think at this stage it looks like you're going to see six or seven, even five uh D sort of in the top 15. 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.600 Malik Lou Telien is the most compelling from a physical tools standpoint. 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.519 Like Lee Talien has he's 6'3, he's athletic. 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:53.759 I worry a little bit with Malik about sort of between the ears and the decision making and the reads on the ice. 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:55.439 He's not the smartest player. 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:04.240 Um, and there are other layers to to Lee Tallien that I think just complicate him being a top, top, top pick. 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:10.480 But he's kind of the guy that people view, at least from a talent standpoint, as that. 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:24.560 Um I just don't know whether he'll put it all together enough to be a top five guy in the way that that all of those D I just mentioned were in the conversation for the top five, six, seven picks in their draft class. 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:32.080 Um and even if he does, that's still a weak draft class because normally there are four or five guys, as I mentioned, who kind of fit into that. 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:42.240 I'm a big believer in Brock Cripps, but how are we going to see uh another 5'11 guy go in the top 10 in a in a draft class? 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:42.879 I don't know. 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:52.639 Like we're we're two years removed from a draft class that saw zero, zero sub-six-foot defensemen drafted across 217 picks, right? 00:08:52.799 --> 00:09:00.960 So obviously last year that changed, and last year you had a few guys who were kind of in that that high end in Xavier Villeneuve and Tommy Blyle. 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.600 You had a few guys who were sort of in that high-end 511 stratosphere. 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.159 I think Crips lives in that. 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:16.799 But if even if you live in that stratosphere, if you're not Landon DuPont, it's hard to go at the tip tip top of the draft. 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.279 Like he I think Crips

probably ends up as a first rounder. 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:23.440 I think he probably doesn't end up as a top 10 or 15 pick. 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:28.879 Uh so the the I I just don't know who those who like who else is coming. 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:37.120 Like you look at Levi Harper and some of these other players who are good players, they're not going to be top pick, so I don't even think Levi Harper will be a first-rounder. 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:42.639 So uh, and I'm not a fan of Gutierrez, who kind of had first round buzz all of last year. 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:51.440 So I I don't know outside of Lee Talien and Cripps and and DuPont, I just don't know in this class who there is on the blue line to get excited about. 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:55.360 There are people who are excited about Cooper McCaslin, who's playing with the London Knights. 00:09:55.440 --> 00:10:01.120 There are others, there are going to be other D, there's going to be plenty of D taken in the first round, as there always is. 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:02.639 And those guys are going to emerge. 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:11.840 Boston Tate, I think, has a chance to be a first rounder, but doesn't have the sort of sexy offense that you need to be a high first rounder, right? 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:20.639 So uh I think about Boston Tate kind of the same way that I think about where Caden Gooley went and where Braden Schneider went in their drafts, right? 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.279 Like in the in the late teens, early 20s. 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.879 Um, I think there's a chance that Tate doesn't even go in the first round, frankly. 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:34.399 So uh yeah, it it's definitely uh a weaker overall D class than the last few years for sure. 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:39.519 Uh so I want to take it back to the strong European forward class that we have here. 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:44.240 Uh starting with the Russians, obviously we've got Skortsov and uh Privalov very high. 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:50.159 Kustavoy's making a case to be maybe a top 10, maybe even a top five forward in this entire draft. 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.840 Milan Sunstrom, Neuenschwander, as you've obviously mentioned. 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:01.519 Uh, what makes all of these forwards unique and kind of which of them do you feel like really gives you like a top three vibe from these guys? 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.000 Well, Skfortsov is the skill guy, right? 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:27.279 Like Neuschwander and Sundstrom are talented, but the the pure offense, the pure puck play, the one-on-one game, the breaking ankles, the sort of pull you out of your seat isn't isn't there consistently with with Sundstrom and Neuschwander, both very, very good players, I believe, belong right at the top of this draft after DuPont, sort of in that next tier. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:34.799 But Sportsov is the one who, from a pure skill standpoint, you watch and you say, okay, like that's that's high-end. 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:40.559 Now, is he is he Nick Ellers or is he something more than that, right? 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:44.559 Like, is he a true, true, true high-end skill guy? 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:53.360 Or is he a 6'1 lean skill guy who is going to have some some flaws and and sort of be a 60-point guy? 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:54.879 Can he be a point per game guy? 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:59.360 Like, that's the determination that teams will have to make on Svortsov over the course of this season. 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:06.399 Is he in that sort of Michikov, Demodov stratosphere that those two players were in, or is he a cut below that? 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:11.039 Um, that's what what we're going to figure, we're at we're going to find out this year with Svorsov. 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.759 But he's the one from a pure skill standpoint that that pops the most. 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:17.600 All of those other players are very good. 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:23.440 Like Sunstrom, the feat has been a bit of a talking point, like just the the overall pace. 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.600 Uh, Neuschwander is just a very good player. 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:28.240 Like, Neuschwander is just going to be a very good player. 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:32.480 He's just a safe projection to be a top six player in the league. 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.399 Um after that, you've got guys like Sammy Nelson. 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:39.519 Like Sammy Nelson's a very good player, Dima Jilkin's a very good player. 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:46.399 There, there are lots of very interesting players in this group, very compelling pro prospects in this group. 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.320 Skrortov is the one, I think, and Pustaboy fits into that same group. 00:12:50.399 --> 00:13:08.480 Um, but Skortsov is the one that that you think, okay, that he's he's got, and Privilov, frankly, although I'm I'm a little unsure about Privilov, uh, but Svorzov is the one where it's like, okay, he's got he's got that highlight reel quality in there uh in a way that some of these other forwards don't. 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.519 Moving on to Canada, they just won the Halenka Gretzky Cup. 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:17.039 Um, you know, pretty pretty stacked team, I guess you could say. 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:22.000 Any of the, you know, we talked a lot about the Europeans and the Russian contingency so far for this draft class. 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.000 Any Canadians that could uh move up the rankings based on uh Halenka? 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.320 Well, I thought Weisick was very good there. 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:29.600 He's off to a bit of a slower. 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:36.000 We're only a couple of games into his season in Guelph, but I I think he was scoreless over the weekend in his first two games of the season in Guelph. 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.200 But Weisik was a kid who had a lot of momentum coming out of it. 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:47.440 Um oddly enough, he's actually

a 2028, but Ben Veich had had a lot of momentum coming out of uh the Holinka. 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.799 Um there it was a very complete team. 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:56.480 In saying that, the the the star quality on that team was the 2028s, right? 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:04.960 Like it was Schultz and it was Pew, and uh obviously Landon was a big part of it, but Schultz and Pugh drove that team's off at least offensively. 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.559 And I like I thought Cam Warren was very good there. 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:13.440 Cam's a 2027, Cam's in this class, but he's 5'8, 5'9, right? 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.559 Like it's just it's hard for some of those guys to break through. 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:26.799 And I don't think Cam Warren is the Zach Benson or Vigo Bjork level of 5'8, 5'9, where it's like, okay, this kid's uh still a top 10 pick, right? 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:32.639 Uh could Cam Warren be a fringe first rounder, maybe, with a big season in North Bay. 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:37.200 Um, but a lot of the players on that team are just good players. 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:44.559 Like like Weisick's gonna be a first rounder, but he's not he's gonna be the first rounder in the projectable middle six player kind of way, right? 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:47.120 Like he's not a star prospect. 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.480 So, and a lot of those players, frankly, felt like that to me. 00:14:50.559 --> 00:15:04.159 Like a lot of really good players, workers, uh, guys who you enjoyed watching at the Hoinka, and guys who sort of made Canada proud with the identity of that team and sort of the way that they hunted and tracked pucks and all of that. 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:20.320 Um but outside of the 2028, I'm not sure there was like a true riser in that group, like a guy who's going to do what Caleb Malholtra did last year and go from projected third rounder entering the season to the third overall pick, right? 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:26.720 Do any goalies strike you as impressive at this early stage of the year? 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.720 Is there anyone you really got your eye on, or is this kind of a weaker class for goalies as well? 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.360 I like Eric II in the WHL. 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:42.240 Um, obviously played for China in the Division 1B uh men's world championships and led them to a silver medal there as a 17-year-old goalie. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:49.519 Was a very, very good goalie uh in the in the WHL last year and should be one of the top goalies in the WHL this year. 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:53.440 Um really sort of technically sound netminder. 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:54.320 He's got good size. 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.159 I think he's like 6'2, 6'3. 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.679 Um Tim Raz the Swede is good. 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:02.320 Uh it's super early, obviously, on the goalies. 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:07.200 Like I tend to not even put goalies on my lit on my list uh on the preseason ranking. 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.919 You would have noticed that there was no goalie, obviously, in the top 32 and and even in the honorable mentions. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:19.519 I will probably have four or five goalies in the honorable mentions of my top 64 that comes out uh sort of at the end of October. 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:23.519 Um there are there are a few decent goalies. 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:32.080 Two is the one, I'm not sure whether he's going to be viewed as the top goalie prospect in this draft class, but he's the one that I've uh sort of liked a lot. 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:38.480 Um And even if he becomes a mid to late round pick, like I think there might be something there for a team. 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:47.039 Um But there isn't, like, there's no there's no Sebastian Kosa, Jesper Wallsted, Yaroslav Askarov, I'll tell you that. 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.759 Like that that goalie is not in this group. 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:53.679 This time of year, some you know, early draft rankings are released. 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.679 Elite Prospects just released theirs, uh, top 64, I think it was. 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:05.920 In this draft class, you see any player that like you have an eye on that you think, yeah, they could be a riser, you know, in the vein of Seneca and Maholtra. 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:10.720 Is there someone that you you think, yeah, you know what, they they could possibly jump up this early on? 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:23.920 Not necessarily a riser, like it's just hard for this player to become a riser, but like my early fave one of my early favorites, if you will, like a guy that I anticipate that I'll just be higher on than the than maybe the consensus is Bosse Meyer. 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.359 Uh he's an 08. 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:26.960 Obviously, this is an 09 age group. 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:28.000 He's a late 08. 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.480 I expect that he'll have a real chance to be on the the Swedish World Junior team. 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:48.079 Um he was sort of banged up and not a part of it at uh uh at the World Junior Summer Showcase, but really, really, really uh like crafty, smart, obviously the captain of their U-18 team at U18 Worlds last spring. 00:17:48.240 --> 00:18:07.839 Um just a really smart, crafty player, can play center, can play the wing, can make plays, keeps his eyes up, uh, but just sort of knows where to be on the ice, he's got skill, um, but he's a 5'10, 5'11 guy and and uh won't be viewed as a premium guy in this class. 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:12.079 I I think he's like he's he's going to be in the teens on my list. 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:20.559 I would guess that he's not there uh when any when we see NHL Central Scouting's first list uh in early October when their preliminary ratings come out. 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:23.039 My guess would be he's not going to be an A-rated player. 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.000 Uh he'll probably be a B-rated player to start. 00:18:26.319

--> 00:18:29.680 Um, but I kind of view him as an A-rated guy, if you will. 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:32.000 So he'd he'd probably be my early guy. 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:40.160 I love Dima Dima Jilkin is has kind of been my guy in this class, but I don't think Dima's a a hidden uh hidden commodity at this point. 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:45.359 I think Dima is just a top ten guy in this class and and should be and will be. 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:59.519 Um But Dima was a guy last year that I would when early lists were coming out, he was very, very high on my list, obviously, and uh a guy that I kind of thumped for last year, and it seems like there's that's kind of where everybody is now on Dima. 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:01.599 Um so I'm I'm excited about Jilkin. 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:08.000 Jilkin's just a dog, like he reminds me of kind of the Zach Benson Vigo Bjork mold. 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:09.759 Nice. 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:16.400 Uh last question on my end, uh, I would say this is more of a selfish question because I haven't heard you say this guy's name. 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:21.920 And I was I was a big fan of his flink up performance, and I just I just want to know where you have Brock Anglin this year. 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.160 What are you thinking about his expectations? 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.160 And uh do you think he sticks it out at center? 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:28.480 Yeah, so I mentioned that sort of second tier. 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.240 He'd be in that second tier for me. 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:42.000 Like he he's in that group of Sammy Nelson and um maybe not quite where Carter Meyer and Neuschwander and and and those guys live. 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:54.240 Uh, but once you so maybe more of a third-tier guy, if you will, but I think Anglin belongs in sort of a 10 to 15 conversation in this draft class, maybe even like eight or nine on my list kind of thing at this stage. 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:55.759 I don't think he goes there. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.759 His profile just isn't a player that typically goes top 10. 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:06.000 Um, obviously Frank Nazar kind of is a close comp, and Frank did go top, did Frank go 11th? 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:07.839 I think Nazar went 11th. 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.519 Um so the that that's that's kind of the player type. 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:19.440 Elite skater, best skater in the draft, like world-class speed, uh, but can also rip it, has skill, makes plays. 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:21.920 The off-puck game came a long way last year. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:27.440 I know where they worked hard on on sort of the decision making and the off-puck play with him in Seattle last year. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:35.279 They penalty killed him a little bit last year, um, played him in some difficult matchups even as a 16-year-old, and he rose to the challenge most nights. 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:37.599 Now, this year he needs to take a step, right? 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:42.480 Like he needs to go out and have the 90, 95-point season. 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:48.880 And if he doesn't have that, then he will likely at his size, even with the skating, kind of slip in rankings. 00:20:48.960 --> 00:21:01.519 Like if you guys remember a year ago, Mathis Preston was kind of viewed as a a potential top 10, top 15 pick in last year's draft, and then he's a he's a second rounder at the end of it because he has a 60-point season instead of a 90-point season, right? 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:15.920 So Brock needs to when you're the when you're a 5'10, 5'11 skill guy with speed, you better produce because if you don't, people start to think about Fabian Liesell and and some of the guys that haven't worked in that profile, right? 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:20.480 And uh then suddenly you're a second round pick instead of a 10-15 pick. 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.599 So uh I I think he's got the ability to be that though. 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:27.279 Like I think he's got the ability to kind of go where Nazar did. 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:30.480 I have one more question actually for you. 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.440 We haven't mentioned the Enigma, Alexis Joseph. 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:35.920 What are your thoughts on him? 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:41.119 I mean, two really bad international showings with uh a league full of scouts watching, right? 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:46.799 And that sticks to you like glue, and it can be hard to shake it over the course of a season. 00:21:47.039 --> 00:22:08.559 Uh obviously, a year ago at U-17s, he was the best player on the ice, and scouts had their jaws on the floor watching this six foot four center go up and down the ice with speed and making plays and uh going between his legs, and like there were some real flashes at U-17s that made you think, okay, this kid might challenge, like this kid might be in the mix for first overall. 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.880 And then he had a good year in St. 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:11.359 John. 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.039 He was a point per game player on a poor team, and he had a good year. 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:20.240 And then at U-18s, he fell down the depth chart, and he eventually got scratched. 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:23.279 And then obviously at at Holinka, the same thing happens. 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:27.119 He starts in the top six, and late in the tournament, he's playing in the bottom six. 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:40.720 And the question and the challenge that I and others have had with Alexi over the last two international events with Hockey Canada is it's just a lot of gliding, a lot of standing still, a lot of watching. 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:45.440 He's just not as engaged and active as he should be off the puck. 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:51.440 And that's a big problem when you're that size, because at that size and with his skill level, you should be dominant. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:57.279 And if you're not dominant, then what happens to you is what happened to Ethan Belchez last year, right? 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:05.680 Where Ethan was once viewed as a top potential top five pick, even as early as the fall last year, when he got off to a great start in Windsor. 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:16.799 And then it just if if it's not dominant every night at that size, people start to think, okay, what's it going to look like in the NHL when everybody when the the size balances out? 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.720 So Alexi needs to have a huge year. 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.440 Him and Jamie Glantz uh should be a real pair. 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:26.000 Jamie Glantz is a legit prospect for this year's draft, who's playing on his line, obviously, in St. 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:26.400 John. 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:32.559 They should be an excellent line um in in in the queue. 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:41.039 Um, but I he's just I like I don't view him as a necessarily uh uh even a surefired top ten pick anymore. 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:47.440 And a year or ago, that was sort of that that if you told me that, that would have been a bit of a surprise. 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:48.960 Thank you so much, Scott. 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:50.960 I I really appreciate your time once again. 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.839 Uh thank you for getting into us with this draft class. 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.039 Uh it's exciting. 00:23:55.200 --> 00:24:09.599 It doesn't seem like obviously like the monsters that have been uh here for for years past, but uh I don't know for everything it's been saying, you've I you've taken the time to uh mention the 2028 class, which looks super exciting as well. 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:12.559 So that might kind of just hang over the balance with this here. 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:14.720 But uh thank you so much for joining us today. 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:16.079 Yeah, cheers, guys. 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:16.880 Yeah, thanks. 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:18.559 Have a good uh day.