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464, episode 3 of... Turn down these lights, guys. Sex. A production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news, not through sex. It's not the deep dive I'm talking about. 00:03:10 Speaker 2: We've never had sex. 00:03:12 Speaker 4: We've never had sex. And it frightens us. 00:03:14 Speaker 2: We don't even know what that is. We just had the news. 00:03:17 Speaker 4: We have the news. And then we have on Monday mornings, icons. We have an episode called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. And we just dropped Mr. Rogers. Yay! And guess what? 00:03:31 Speaker 1: You can see the whole damn video on YouTube.com. 00:03:34 Speaker 4: You can see everything. Talk about you can see everything. Yeah, we did a YouTube version of that one. 00:03:38 Speaker 3: Mr. 00:03:38 Speaker 2: Rogers was like, I wouldn't deceive you, neighbor. 00:03:41 Speaker 4: He actually wouldn't. He really wouldn't. 00:03:44 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 00:03:44 Speaker 4: We found out some real dirt. This guy's a creep up and down. No, really wonderful guy. Anyways, you can go check that out on our YouTube channel. But right now, it is Wednesday, November 11th, 2026. Yeah. 00:03:59 Speaker 1: Some of you have the day off, maybe, but it's Veterans Day, which also means it's Armistice Day or National Origami Day or National Sunday Day. There are just a lot of things. Remembrance Day in the UK and Australia. 00:04:16 Speaker 4: But people are remembering. National, hey guys, 11-11 Day. 00:04:18 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:04:20 Speaker 4: You know when people people who like to point at the clock and say oh 11 11 yep yep yep yeah what's the thing ribbit ribbit rabbit what's that shit people say people i remember this was like a thing early on that i didn't know people did and they're like oh ribbit ribbit and i'm like rabbit rabbit or some shit do you know what i'm talking about. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: Nope No, not at all. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: Never mind. And frankly, I don't want to. Yeah, sorry. But anyway, yeah. 00:04:44 Speaker 2: Are we going to figure out you got bullied somehow? 00:04:47 Speaker 4: No, no, no, never. You know how people will, you say 11-11 and then they say ribbit ribbit and throw you in a pond? 00:04:54 Speaker 1: You know, they pants you and then they shave the back of your head, like just out of nowhere. 00:04:58 Speaker 4: You know, that whole thing. Well, shout out to our veterans. And what was the other thing? Sundays. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: Armistice? 00:05:06 Speaker 4: Sundays. And the war dead? 00:05:08 Speaker 2: How is Sunday day not on a Sunday? 00:05:12 Speaker 1: I think because they I don't know why it's kind of wild to be like, it's clear that like the 11th day of the 11th month is about like the wars. But I think there, I guess for whatever reason, Dairy Queen and Baskin Robbins were like. 00:05:25 Speaker 4: Hey, man, we got to get

in on this. 00:05:26 Speaker 2: We're at war, too. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: The Sunday war. Buy one, get one. Eleven right there. You see that? Boom. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. P. Did he? Courtesy of David Lesser in reference to the controversy of whether I pissed my pants while I was on a ride as an adult. He's not a Sean Combs apologist. P. Did he? I was very well done by that. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: You see how this looks, right? 00:05:57 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Which, he was a fan of the... You know, water sports. 00:06:06 Speaker 1: Well, I think also, if just to clear things up, Jack does have another podcast called Sean Combs, A Portrait of Innocence. 00:06:13 Speaker 4: That you should check out, too. That's right. 00:06:16 Speaker 2: Every week on Icons, he's pitching it. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: And for the fifth week in a row, we're doing Sean Combs. No. Thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. 00:06:28 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancashire, a.k.a. the Blasian spy who shagged me. I'm just thinking of that earlier when we were talking about Austin Powers and the whole Jensen Wong thing. 00:06:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. How about that? 00:06:40 Speaker 2: You've never had sex. 00:06:43 Speaker 1: That's why I have to bring it up in an Austin Powers-esque reference. 00:06:46 Speaker 4: Not sex. Oh, yucky. No. Miles' famous catchphrase, not sex. Shagging, baby. That's what I said. Shagging, baby? 00:06:56 Speaker 3: You did the Trump face while you did the Austin Powers voice. 00:07:02 Speaker 2: You're like, shagging, baby. 00:07:04 Speaker 4: Shagging, baby. Miles will be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests, a hilarious stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser, co-host of the podcast Millennial Mood Board. Yeah, yeah. One of our favorite guests, even though she keeps poisoning us. It's Polonium Pallaby Gunalen! 00:07:24 Speaker 5: Pallaby! 00:07:25 Speaker 2: Wait a minute. If Jack is here and Miles is here... And I'm here. Who's burning down your house? 00:07:32 Speaker 4: Who's alive? I don't like this. Wait a minute. 00:07:36 Speaker 2: Wait a goddamn minute. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: I don't like this oil. I don't like this at all. Anyway, how have you been? I've been good. How have you guys been? Chilling. Just, you know, taking in the blue waves. Just watching them come on in. 00:07:49 Speaker 3: Getting the dogs to shoot Kristi Noem back. 00:07:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Revenge tour. 00:07:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, luckily, you know, it's a moment to just go, oh, OK, well, maybe something will happen. 00:08:02 Speaker 4: Maybe, maybe. 00:08:04 Speaker 1: Let's stay tuned. Let's keep the pressure on, though. I think that's the big thing. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: At least I have seen people in real life be like, oh, like votes matter. And that's why the person who's challenging John Fetterman, the Palestinian man who's going to challenge him. I'm like, I have more

hope for that because I'm like, well, people now see that you can vote people in. 00:08:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, right. 00:08:25 Speaker 2: And so it's like proof of concept. 00:08:27 Speaker 4: And there's not this magical thing called electability that you always have to like this meta version of politics where you have to be like, OK, well, who do democratic leadership tell me I have to vote for? that's the person who is electable. Instead, you can just be like, well, those are the ideas that I actually think are good ideas. Yeah. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: Fantasy, fantasy football. 00:08:51 Speaker 1: If I was creating a nightmare candidate for John Fetterman to have to go up against, it would be a Palestinian American who's from Philly. 00:08:59 Speaker 4: And that's who Ahmed Moore is. 00:09:01 Speaker 1: That's also like B.B. 00:09:02 Speaker 2: Netanyahu's. 00:09:04 Speaker 4: Also from Philadelphia. 00:09:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, right. 00:09:06 Speaker 4: Exactly. All right. Well, Paula V, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are going to talk about, you know, the the state of the Democratic Party as you know, where it's settling in. It does seem like the Democrats are getting Mississippi of all places. And so we've got to take a take a beat here. The election's over and be like, what does this mean going forward for our guys, Schumer and Jeffries, our fearless leaders here? who uh steered steered the ship into this victory oh wait they had terrible instincts the whole fucking time yeah so i just i just want to talk you know why they should be replaced whether that's going to actually happen. 00:09:53 Speaker 1: You know those memes that happen on election day where they're like me voting in a blue state trying to take credit for the blue wave and it would be a person like pushing a train. 00:10:01 Speaker 4: As it leaves the station. 00:10:03 Speaker 1: That's what Schumers and Jeffries also did. Like with this, they're like, oh, yeah, you see that? Oh, yeah. 00:10:08 Speaker 4: Look at that thing go. Don't worry. Please forget that I met with Jared Kushner a few months ago. 00:10:14 Speaker 1: And we're like, you don't have to worry about anything about what that was. 00:10:18 Speaker 4: Yeah. Haley Stevens is going to flip at the end of the last, at the very end of the election. We're good, my man. 00:10:27 Speaker 2: I see Hakeem Jeffries in my dreams. 00:10:30 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about that very thing, her accent, because there are some videos circulating. Oh, I saw that. That would suggest that shit is, you know, we've seen some amazing, I talked about Hannah Imbender's amazing Haley Stevens impression that she did. seemingly after a few beers, she was like, all right, you guys asked for it and did it. And it was like better than expected. It turns out Haley Stevens was also doing a Haley Stevens impression because that's not how she actually talks. 00:11:02 Speaker 3: I've always said she's the Ariana Grande of my, of the sentence. 00:11:08 Speaker 4: Ariana Grande, you mean? We're going to talk about Jake Lang who got thrown out of multiple awards. celebrations over the weekend. 00:11:18 Speaker 2: And an animal adoption event. 00:11:21 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:11:21 Speaker 4: Did you see this? Yeah, that's what we're talking about. That he mistook for a furry convention. First Diwali celebration, then cat. Oh, okay. But yeah, this hell of a year where he's, you know, got his ass beat by Spider-Man earlier. And now he's just kind of roving, looking for kind of moment, places to embarrass himself. So we'll talk about that. 00:11:45 Speaker 3: He's like, A Boston guy trying. 00:11:48 Speaker 4: To start a fight. That might have been who tried to fight me in Boston. Probably. I don't know. 00:11:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. But then, like, real guys from Boston, they would have tried something. Not Jake Lang. He's just always like, what are you going to do, hit me? Slowly gets a boner, as he says that. And you're like, what the fuck? 00:12:05 Speaker 4: Very slowly. Jesus Christ. What the fuck is this? Yeah. We'll talk about all of that plenty more. But first, Paul D., we do like to ask our guests... What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? 00:12:17 Speaker 2: Oh, shit. I always forget this one. Okay, hold on. 00:12:20 Speaker 3: Well, I did just look up armistice because I couldn't remember. But you know what's funny? This was the second time I've looked it up in like three days because I read. And I was like, and I read and I'm stupid. So I constantly am looking up words. But that's like one of the words that we like never use anymore. 00:12:43 Speaker 1: Unless you're a history channel brain kid like me growing up and all you've been like, oh, my God, it's Armistice Day. It's all about the armistice. 00:12:51 Speaker 4: Yeah. Armistice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 00:12:55 Speaker 2: What is Armistice Day about? 00:12:57 Speaker 4: It ended fighting on the Western front of World War One. Yeah. 00:13:00 Speaker 2: Which. But a general. Okay. 00:13:02 Speaker 4: Okay. I think. But I mean, Armistice is just being like, hey, we're calling it quits on war. This is our peace treaty. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 00:13:10 Speaker 1: That's why I just remember it because of that speech on the 11th day of the 11th month at the 11th hour at a 7-Eleven or something like that. 00:13:19 Speaker 4: At a 7-Eleven. 00:13:23 Speaker 2: Armistice Day. 00:13:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:13:24 Speaker 4: Armistice Day. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: A.K.A. Slurpee Rule. 00:13:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:13:27 Speaker 4: Yeah. Pallavi, what is something you think is underrated? 00:13:33 Speaker 3: Okay, I had a whole mini adventure right before this pod. There was a possum that was on the street and it wasn't doing well. And I think rescue animal services

is... it's underrated because it's non-responsive in LA. Like I tried calling three to five different numbers and like they kept directing me to like different menus. And then what ended up happening was I waited out there and my cat rescue, shout out Delgado cat rescue, had someone come pick up the possum because no, and it had been there for a day apparently. And so I feel like this is, huh? 00:14:12 Speaker 1: Just chilling like sickly? 00:14:14 Speaker 3: No, it was breathing and it was just laid out. It was not doing well. But it had been there for a day, which is not humane. And they couldn't get anybody to go get it yesterday. So basically, I feel like a lot of animal rescues in LA end up dealing with other animals. This is not the first time she's dealt with a possum. Sometimes people just leave other wild animals outside her apartment door, and she has to deal with it. But I'm really hoping, like Nithya has talked a lot about animal funding and stuff so i'm like really hoping that this like the wildlife center and stuff has more field officers but that's that i literally was like like straw feeding water to this possum right before this pod i know i felt so bad it was i. 00:15:03 Speaker 1: Mean if that if that happens again just call my mom she will she will show up faster than the city if she hears a possum. 00:15:09 Speaker 3: Wait your mom does like animal rescue stuff I mean, she's big possum energy. 00:15:13 Speaker 1: She just like she takes care of the possums in her neighborhood. Like they all come to her yard to like live. 00:15:18 Speaker 4: That's so sweet. 00:15:20 Speaker 1: She's like a I keep saying she's a card carrying member of like the American opossum society. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: And she carries them like they carry their babies. She's got them all in her bag. 00:15:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's like, play dead. Hurry, hurry, hurry. How do you know that this is not just the best possum at playing dead of all time? Is that a question that comes into your head? You can tell. Went too hard on the dead. 00:15:43 Speaker 3: I did. I looked at it and I was like, oh, no, it's not playing dead. Because usually they'll be like... how they like make a face when they play dead. And this one was like too relaxed. 00:15:52 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 00:15:53 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: And it was like laid down. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:15:56 Speaker 2: It was like, please let's cut to the chase. You know what I'm doing? I know what I'm doing. Help me. 00:16:03 Speaker 1: Not a bit. 00:16:04 Speaker 4: This is not a bit. 00:16:06 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. This is like a standup comedian on stage. 00:16:10 Speaker 4: This isn't a bit. Seriously. Oh God. Yeah. What is it that you think is overrated, Pallavi? 00:16:18 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:16:19 Speaker 2: I am the biggest reality TV fan. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: The entire cast of Love is Blind, the men need to go to jail in Boston. So I think some reality shows get overrated at a certain point where Rob needs to be put in Arkham Asylum. John needs to go to jail. John's dad needs to go to jail. Scott needs to go to jail. 00:16:41 Speaker 4: Wow. 00:16:41 Speaker 3: There's just so many like we need to. It's overrated at a point where we're just watching men traumatize women on TV. 00:16:51 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 00:16:51 Speaker 2: And I'm like, everybody is like triggered. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: The producer was scared at one event because Rob was getting aggressive. And then at the reunion, I'm like, get the handcuffs out. These people are about to fight. 00:17:05 Speaker 2: What is going on? You know what I mean? It's just it's too much. I think I know. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: After the first season or two, they should just invent another show that people don't know about. So that, because once it becomes a hit and it's not like a competition show or it's not like campy, then if your people are trying to find love, then everybody's just trying to game the system. 00:17:27 Speaker 2: And then it's just like weird people on the show, you know? 00:17:30 Speaker 6: Right. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:17:31 Speaker 4: Like they're trying to launch their career. I feel like. 00:17:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:17:35 Speaker 4: In retrospect, reality TV has been like, you mentioned Arkham, like, What a run for reality TV creating villains. We got Trump, basically, from reality television. We got Spencer Pratt from reality television. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: Omarosa, remember her? 00:17:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. But going on to... They enter our... It's like the portal through which they enter our cinematic universe and then become fucking actual villains in some cases. Yeah. 00:18:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, very true. 00:18:11 Speaker 4: The Kardashians, your mileage may vary. Well, it depends on if you bought that Skims advent calendar. 00:18:16 Speaker 3: I think we need to shut some of it down. I feel like at this point, some of it's bad. 00:18:24 Speaker 2: I mean, does 90 Day Fiancé, do you ever get worried about that? 00:18:26 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 00:18:27 Speaker 1: There's been people who've been fucking charged with murder after. 00:18:31 Speaker 4: And you're like, oh, my God. 00:18:32 Speaker 2: Really? 00:18:33 Speaker 4: Yes, yes. There's one guy, Jeffrey. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: This is why I can't get into it. It's so, oh, my God. 00:18:40 Speaker 1: On 420 Day Fiance, Sophia and I are always like, oh, my God, dude. Like, these people don't vet anyone. Like, they're finding, like, actual people who are, like. 00:18:47 Speaker 4: But they want. Yeah, exactly. 00:18:49 Speaker 2: They want crazy. They get rewarded for it. 00:18:51 Speaker 1: It's because it's evolved a little bit, too. Because 90 Day used to be, like, a documentary about, like, international couples. And now, like, who are the most dysfunctional freaks we can put on camera that are just going to make people, like, puke while they

watch? And, like, it's just all about that now. And I kind of miss how, like, it used to just be about, like, oh, it's interesting to see people reconcile their cultural differences rather than like, oh, this guy looks like a Dateline episode about to happen. 00:19:17 Speaker 4: Right. Yeah. 00:19:18 Speaker 2: It's so Grazy. It's so crazy. 00:19:20 Speaker 3: And, like, on the Love is Blind version, there was, so it was Boston, and there was this one scene where Rob goes to bring Michaela, his partner, to dinner with his friends. And, like, one of the guys, Rob and Michaela, and one of the guys that's meeting is, like, already wasted at the beginning of the dinner and then is asking all these weird, like, sexual questions. And then the producers are like, hey, we can't let him drink anymore. And then rob gets pissed and he's like no get him another drink no and like that he's like messing with the producers and the camera operators like a woman and like it's scary to watch and then they go home together after like another blowout and it's like you shouldn't be sending any woman a home with this man like he should he needs to go straight to to like in the like i think a lot of women who watched it were stressed out and a lot of reality tv like a lot of my friends who watch are women you know and it's like this is this is uncontrolled in a way that like true crime stories like they're packaged a certain way yeah like in retrospect And this is like, oh, we don't know what's going to happen to these. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: People after this. Like part of this is happening in real time. 00:20:37 Speaker 4: What are you fucking talking about? 00:20:38 Speaker 1: Scott doesn't have a drinking problem. 00:20:41 Speaker 4: Literally. Give him another one. Literally. 00:20:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:20:44 Speaker 1: Like that's crazy when you see that kind of like group of addicts behavior where they're like, no, I can't admit that he has it. 00:20:50 Speaker 4: Then I have a problem. No, it's not fucking Scott. Yeah. Hell no. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: And then it'll cut to him being like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that. But, you know, my father died and blah, blah, blah. 00:21:01 Speaker 2: And men are supposed to keep it all in. Bitch, you did not keep it in. You threw it out. You threw it out. 00:21:07 Speaker 4: That was like last season. 00:21:09 Speaker 1: There was like that one dude who was like, yeah, man, like I'm really looking for like a woman to help bring me out of my shell. 00:21:15 Speaker 4: So then that can be now her new labor that she does. A therapist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:21:21 Speaker 3: Everybody's like love is blind should set people up like all the men up with the therapist and that should just be the episode on the. 00:21:29 Speaker 4: Other side of the pod. 00:21:31 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, let's go. 00:21:34 Speaker 3: You have to go on Love is Blind in order to get the mental health care you need. Right. 00:21:39 Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, Alyssa, I actually love you. Will you marry me? And she's like, oh, that's that's very kind of you. But yes, I will be your therapist. If you've gone through a few. 00:21:49 Speaker 2: Different ones in my culture, that's called transference. So, yeah. 00:21:56 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we will talk about the state of the Democratic Party. We'll be right back. And we're back. I do. Actually, to kick this off, can we just talk about Haley Stevens real quick? Because she was the chosen candidate. you know, chosen by the democratic leadership, the democratic leadership was fighting very hard to not have, uh, you know, very like any, anybody, but Abdul El-Sayed and they, you know, so they, they were like backing her, uh, spending so much money to get her into office. And, uh, Like, their argument has always been kind of implicitly, we know who's electable. We're going to, like, we'll take it from here, guys. Like, the one thing we know is, like, how to find these candidates. And, like, this candidate who... like had one sound clip where she was like, and we're going to do it with a little stick it to them. 00:23:12 Speaker 1: And we're going to, you know, here, I think like, let's play that clip. I think this is like when a lot of people, as that primary was heating up, they're like, this is who Abdul El-Sayed is going up against. And we're kind of laughing that here's her very, very, a prominent Michigan accent. 00:23:28 Speaker 5: I am going to be working on our behalf. I am going to be telling the stories on our behalf. And you better believe I'm going to be doing it with a little bit of joy, a little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy, and a little bit. 00:23:42 Speaker 2: Of stick it to them. Because that's the Michigan way. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: Hey, she sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon star. of like adventures of Marge Gunderson from Fargo. Like it's just like the most over the top, like Midwestern accent. Like people from Michigan don't talk like that. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: There's also like a drag queen moment where they talk about you're like, you're not a woman of integrity or energy or whatever. 00:24:09 Speaker 2: It sounds like the same kind of line. 00:24:11 Speaker 3: Right. 00:24:12 Speaker 4: Yes. And it's just so that is what they were like, you know, this is who we need to run. Like, just in retrospect, because like AES ran like an amazing campaign, like they threw so much fucking racism at him and he like didn't take the bait or when he did, he just like handled it incredibly well and just fucking owned whoever was bringing it in, like bringing that energy. And, like, meanwhile, the one that, like, Chuck Schumer and, like, you know, that the Democrats would have had, like, completely fell apart. Like, completely, like, buckled. Endorsed the Republican candidate. Was seemingly, possibly honeypotted. And she was also sitting on this scandal. Like, there's a video

now going around of how she actually talks. And she just speaks like a person. Yeah, this is her from 2018. Hey! 00:25:09 Speaker 2: Another great day in the doors. 00:25:10 Speaker 3: I think it's going to rain again. 00:25:12 Speaker 5: We had an awesome group out today all throughout Oakland County and Western Wayne. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: Go Stevens Train! Six days and counting to August 7th. 00:25:21 Speaker 4: All right. I mean, look. This is just white people code switching, okay? 00:25:26 Speaker 3: Yes! 00:25:27 Speaker 1: This is this is this is white people code switching to get an office. 00:25:31 Speaker 4: Barack Obama did it. A lot of people do it. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: And I think for her that consultants were like, lay it on thick, lay it on. 00:25:38 Speaker 3: No, it's insane, though, because like if she was brown, because when they heard Abdulaziz say his name, like it's actually supposed to be pronounced. 00:25:46 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:25:47 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, who the fuck is this guy? Like they were all freaking the fuck out. 00:25:54 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, he's just, like, he's, like, revealing to white people that they actually didn't get his name right. And he didn't have the energy to teach it to them, like, for a millionth time. And she's actually, like, her entire cadence and demeanor has changed. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: And they're like, this is fine. 00:26:09 Speaker 4: This is okay. But I do think, like, that would have been a liability. Like, that people were just like, no, you just, that's not actually how you talk. Like, that, among many other things, like, she would have gotten... rinsed in the election had the mainstream democratic party so i just think it's good context for the conversation around like schumer and jeffries and like you know who the long standing leadership of the party that is trying to take credit for this blue wave election where like all of the candidates ran on bernie sanders talking points yeah and like talking points That are specifically the things that Chuck Schumer and Kim Jeffries like stand against. Yeah. 00:26:53 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's why even, you know, right after the election, my big thing was like, what's a Schumer's Jeffries Congress going to do exactly? Because we know where they stand on the issues that were huge in this election. And right now, it seems like the groans are getting a little bit louder, but not really close enough to see something really destabilize their pursuit for Senate leader and Speaker of the House. I mean, Hakeem Jeffries, he's already got the backing of people like Mamdani and AOC, and seems like him becoming the first Black Speaker of the House isn't totally in jeopardy. Although with every day that passes, you're seeing more and more people be like, I can't back him for speaker unless he says something about Citizens United and aid to Israel in terms of like us not being a party to genocide. And they're now even Schumer, too. We're hearing more and more people like the incoming senators elect Peggy Flanagan, Troy Jackson, Abdul El-Sayed, Julianna Stratton, Adam Hamilton. They've all said they won't support Schumer. And, you know, the new kids, they can't afford that many. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: Right. 00:28:00 Speaker 4: How many? 00:28:00 Speaker 1: He can afford a few because I'd imagine, too, that I don't know. I mean, like it's it's it's hard. It's it doesn't quite feel like it's in jeopardy yet. 00:28:09 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Because it's it's just not there. 00:28:12 Speaker 1: It hasn't really reached the critical mass. And then a lot of the way that people are writing about it are like, hey, man, these senators elect like they're coming in with a lot of fire. But I think it also goes to show the range of Democrats that are entering the Senate that aren't into the idea of Schumer being leader, because Adam Hamilton, who's the senator-elect from Kansas, this is what he said, quote, a lot of people in Kansas feel, who may not know Chuck Schumer personally, who don't know him personally, but you know that they perceive him to be further to the left than somebody who's a divisive figure. So, That goes to show to some people, like a guy who, which makes sense, he won in Kansas, that his thing. 00:28:48 Speaker 4: Isn't like, he ain't going hard enough. He's like, I don't know, man. He's kind of too far left for my blood. 00:28:55 Speaker 1: But he's netted out to also being against him being leader. Now, maybe he's just saying that for, you know, for his constituents. 00:29:02 Speaker 4: Welcome to the tent, brother. 00:29:04 Speaker 1: But yeah i think it just goes to show the tent is ginormous. 00:29:08 Speaker 6: Filled with clowns oh sorry yeah i don't know so would love to see it needs to be decisive action right like like across the board this would be one of the things but like if if. 00:29:25 Speaker 4: It has to be jeffries and schumer then like i mean They still need to be completely out of step with what is happening once they start legislating. 00:29:37 Speaker 3: Who was the guy who went to visit? Kilmar in El Salvador? 00:29:43 Speaker 4: Chris Van Hollen. 00:29:45 Speaker 2: Chris Van Hollen, yeah. 00:29:46 Speaker 3: Didn't he mention that there's rumors around him? 00:29:50 Speaker 4: There are rumors about him. 00:29:51 Speaker 1: He hasn't said that he's running, but the rumors are heating up. 00:29:56 Speaker 2: Around Chris Van Hollen. But he's not declining, yeah. 00:29:58 Speaker 1: And, but, and again, another guy, I mean, he used to be like, he used to be in leadership at the DCCC. Like he's definitely part of the establishment, but maybe just has a little less baggage tied to him than Schumer does. I think going into this, which feels like a thing where they'd be like, okay, it doesn't have to be Schumer, but what about this other guy who will probably eight times out of 10 defend, you know, what needs to be defended in terms of the

status quo. But yeah, it's still very. 00:30:24 Speaker 4: Every day, there's just a little bit more happening. And I don't know. 00:30:27 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that more people begin to see that based on how wide-reaching this blue wave was and the issues that people are really talking about, that they can see like, okay, this maybe requires a different kind of leadership rather than the kind that has been delivering us L's for the past few cycles. 00:30:49 Speaker 4: Specifically what they ran against. The winning message is not what Schumer and Jeffries have ever stood for. It's what they've specifically been agents to fight against. 00:31:01 Speaker 3: They're trying to, like, And I saw Matt Iglesias is also posting about this a lot. They're trying to say that moderation has won. 00:31:08 Speaker 2: I know. 00:31:10 Speaker 3: But they're trying to rebrand it where it's very clearly not. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: What's happened and it's the. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: departure from all of the corporate money and Israel and all of that stuff that's, like, actually been galvanizing people to vote. But one thing that, like, really bothers me is that I feel like we keep... People, they try to play the moderation card, and then they also... With Hakeem Jeffries, I've been seeing some posts about it being anti-Black. And I saw this, too, with, like, Karen Bass in LA. I feel like a lot of the, like... identity stuff it can be used as like a shield and that's what they do when they like they run out of uh, reasons to, to, you know, like when they run out of valuable reasons of policy to like, not have these people in, but it's so frustrating because it like ends the conversation. And also there are like plenty of black people I would in like in Congress that I would rather. 00:32:10 Speaker 1: Be attacked against someone being critical of a record that is so in your fucking face that they should not be leading this new Congress. I mean, like, Hakeem Jeffries is out here actively saying he's like, the American people don't want us to get even. 00:32:27 Speaker 4: He's like, he's like, they want. It's insane. He's like, they want us to. I'm like, motherfucker, we do. 00:32:32 Speaker 1: That's exactly like, dude, all of that fucking pain that's been caused by the illegal actions of this administration need to be fucking addressed and like willfully ignoring. This is what I was saying even before. They are going to willfully ignore what the actual underlying message was in this election to try and be like, it's actually not about like rocking the boat, you know, really. It's like they wanted us back in power and they wanted stability or something or like. Like with Hakeem Jeffries, he's not trying to go after he's saying they don't want us to go after Republicans. They want us to like make things affordable. 00:33:04 Speaker 4: And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. 00:33:05 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out here who are like, dude, you need to fucking nip this shit in the bud and get the trash the fuck out of here. 00:33:10 Speaker 4: It's not getting even. 00:33:12 Speaker 2: Because it won't be affordable. 00:33:15 Speaker 4: It's not getting even. It's scorched earth to make it so that like people understand that you can't do this shit anymore. That was the problem after the first Trump administration is that they were just like. 00:33:25 Speaker 2: All right. 00:33:26 Speaker 4: Well, he's probably learned his lesson and January 6th was so bad and unpopular that he's done. The lesson goes further back, bro. Reconstruction. Yeah. We're just like, hey, man, you guys are sorry about that shit, right? All right. All right. Go back. 00:33:41 Speaker 1: Go back to the South and start putting in your fucking like draconian, you know, sundown laws and all of these restrictions on newly freed black people, because that's how you're addressing the loss of the Civil War, because no one actually addressed it in a legal way to be like, because of what I think only there's only like a handful of people that really saw like real legal problems after the Civil War. 00:34:05 Speaker 4: Everyone else got pardons. And so this is the exact same thing. 00:34:08 Speaker 2: We're like, dude, this is reimbursed for like the slaves that I lost. 00:34:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. What about my money? 00:34:14 Speaker 3: And again, it's also like all of this is tied together because like if you don't go scorched earth with these people, they're just going to try and continue to fill their pockets. They're going to try and continue to have like a war machine that increases gas prices and like destroys the economy for regular ass people. So it's like if you have to go to the root of the problem and the root of the problem are these fucking unfettered capitalists that just, you know. 00:34:39 Speaker 2: Try to. 00:34:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just like like it's such a smokescreen. And I don't think I don't think people are falling for it. I think people know. 00:34:47 Speaker 1: I think they said I think there's definitely a group of people who are fine with just being like, OK, blue team one. 00:34:53 Speaker 4: Great. 00:34:55 Speaker 1: I'm pretty insulated from the other issues that exist for other people in this country that. that enough to me will deliver me solace and peace looking at the future of the country. For everybody else who saw the ice raids, who saw this transphobic bullshit, who saw us going full anti-science and things like that, these are real fucking problems that have to get sorted out. And I think that's where I think people need to sort of dispel themselves of this myth or this weird belief that it's like, just because like, I mean, Chuck Schumer said he was going to fight and now he took credit and maybe he will deliver on that. 00:35:29 Speaker 4: I just that's not what it is. 00:35:32 Speaker 3: Do you think there's more like political literacy, though? Because I feel like with things like data

centers and people showing up to city council meetings and things like that, I feel like people are being forced to kind of reckon with their local politics at least a little bit more because it's coming. 00:35:47 Speaker 2: To their doorstep. 00:35:48 Speaker 3: So I feel like as a result of that, there is more ability to kind of parse and critically think through what blue means, you know? 00:35:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. 00:35:57 Speaker 1: Again, aside from Schumer and Jeffries being fixtures of the party and the establishment, and Jeffries literally being a hand-picked successor by Nancy Pelosi, and she did that in a way, too, to seem progressive. Because she also, I think, in a very cynical way, chose a black man to try. 00:36:17 Speaker 3: And act like Joe Biden. 00:36:18 Speaker 4: Yes. Like, yeah. 00:36:20 Speaker 1: And it's and it's and again, and people shouldn't get fooled by that stuff. I would love to see a black speaker of the House, of course. But I also want to see laws passed that are actually beneficial to all people in this country. And I don't I just don't want the warm, fuzzy feeling of like a historical event. appointment or something like that because that's. 00:36:39 Speaker 3: Not eventually a black person who is progressive can hold that like you want to see laws passed and and policies enacted so eventually someone who epitomizes the progressiveness of the aesthetic yeah actually like take that. 00:36:54 Speaker 1: Position jeffries can absorb like about 35 defections and still become speaker Schumer, according to his people, they have the votes already because it only has to be a simple majority within the Democratic caucus. 00:37:06 Speaker 3: What about the change.org petition? Do I need to sign that twice? How many times do I need to sign that? 00:37:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, right. 00:37:13 Speaker 1: Because I think bottom line, a lot of people saw this, what was happening with this administration. They went to vote for candidates who were saying things like, we want to end wars. We do not want to be a party to genocide. We want health care for all. We want to see these fascists properly dealt with. And again, a Schumer's Jeffries Congress will just give us this other moment where they're going to be like, guys, it's. 00:37:34 Speaker 4: Not about it's not about revenge. Come on. Yeah, it's about gas prices. People, American people want to move forward. That's how they're going to. And it's just like, yeah, I mean. you need to put them in the... Like, there's the political appetite for revenge, but there's also, like, a practical reason that you need to do that to make sure that this shit doesn't happen again and again, which... It's going they're going to sweep back to power if Schumer and Jeffries are the people who are dictating like the priorities of the Democratic Party. That is the future is another far right movement like that. Those are the options currently in America. 00:38:16 Speaker 3: And this is why I'm saying we need to go scorched earth on the love is blind Boston. 00:38:21 Speaker 4: To send a message. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: To know what they have done. 00:38:26 Speaker 1: You can't be a piece of shit out here, pal. But again, it's true though, right? Every time, every historian, economist will tell you, man, inequality is driving people to fascism. This is going to happen every time. And there's an opportunity to actually address inequality and get people's material conditions to improve. And we're not, I just, again, I have not seen anything out of the careers of these two guys that That suggests to me they are able to meet this moment, which is so, so fucking different than the 90s or the aughts or the 10s or the 80s or the 70s. This is a completely different moment. And look at the people that came in. 00:39:13 Speaker 4: And it's on. You have not seen results like this. Look what they were saying as they came in. Look what got them in here. Yeah. 00:39:20 Speaker 1: And to completely be like, oh, that's like one version, I think, of what people want. 00:39:25 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just realized that Nancy Pelosi putting in Hakeem Jeffries was another Kentucky. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: Cloth moment of her just doing it for the. 00:39:32 Speaker 4: Aesthetics of it. Just performative. And I think that's the thing, too. 00:39:36 Speaker 3: So crazy. 00:39:37 Speaker 1: Want to stay, they just want to see outcomes. Like how many people have to get killed in the streets, whether by ICE or the police for somebody to do something when people have been saying for decades, this is a problem. How many, how many more people have to die because of medical costs or, you know, CEOs are getting fucking murked in the street because nothing's getting done about it. Like these are problems that are just right there screaming at us all in the face. And we're going to have people being like, yeah, yeah, we're going to, yeah, that sounds like a problem that we'll be able to deal with. 00:40:06 Speaker 4: It's just not inspiring. 00:40:07 Speaker 3: Did you see there was a new congressperson named, well, now I just know his name is Matt because I can't remember his last name because in the video, he was like, please call me Matt. Don't call me senator or congressperson, whatever, because it's so, like they're all at, all the millennial congresspeople are at orientation right now, just collecting their syllabi and their disclosure forms and stuff. And he was saying like, oh, this is very much a bubble and people laugh at jokes that aren't funny and people are very subservient in this bubble. And like, I can totally see how people lose complete contact with the real world and real problems. And you can see that in like how these institutions, like they think it's so infuriating how much they think that they understand the common person's problem. What? 00:40:57 Speaker 4: Matt Little. 00:40:59 Speaker 2: Matt Little, yeah. 00:41:00 Speaker 4: I think from Minnesota.

00:41:02 Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, yeah. He's like, please keep calling. 00:41:05 Speaker 3: Me Matt because I just don't want to like fall into this hole or this trap of like not being able to relate to people who actually have real problems. Because I've heard this from Rashida Tlaib too. She's like, they think that there isn't real suffering there. Like they're so insulated from like common issues because they get these positions and then they feel like they won. 00:41:29 Speaker 1: Look at how Hakeem Jeffries dresses when he's in civilian mode. 00:41:33 Speaker 4: He's not around normal people. 00:41:35 Speaker 3: He's like walking out on a NBA basketball game, like with fashion. 00:41:40 Speaker 1: But I mean, like he's like washed undercover cop style. I'm like, no, bro, you have not been around normal. Are you still dressing like that, bro? Fuck that. And the other thing, too, is like there's a bunch of people who are coming into office. This is from Politico. Representative-elect Don Letten of Ohio said in a social media post that the senior members told him to vote for Jeffries regardless of whether the Democratic leader commits to addressing key issues. including a constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizens United decision and ending U.S. support for Israel and the war in Iran. This is what he said, quote, it's part of the stuff you see in the movies. It's a whole other thing when it's in person by people who actually care about you and are cheering for you, but expect you to wear the team jersey and be a good team player. 00:42:21 Speaker 4: And you are being a good team player by resisting that shit because that is not, that's going to do nothing but contribute to the rot and it's going to have the Republicans sweeping back before anybody is expecting. 00:42:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the idea of like, this is just more infighting. It's like, no, man, this is fighting for people's fucking lives because the other side, these people are being willfully ignorant about what needs to happen. And yeah, it's just wild when you see these incoming freshmen like, dude, they're already telling us to get the fucking line. 00:42:51 Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck is this? It's like, yeah, well, it's the machine. We need them to be... you know, traders to the, you know, power structure and just be like, look, look at this fucking memo. We just got you guys, you know, like they need to just be straight up, like sane eyes on the inside. 00:43:10 Speaker 3: Have you also seen, this is kind of like, like when people talk about being the only person of a certain ethnicity in a room or whatever, it's like, you're tokenized. If there's two of you or you're in competition, but if there's three of you, that's like when you get to start making actual changes and having your voice be heard and And I think part of the reason that people feel like these newcomers are feeling stronger and being able to air out this bullshit is because there are so many of

them. And I think that really is helpful to like prevent people from being sucked into the system because they're less likely to get like preyed upon if they have like other people supporting and being like, isn't this fucked up? 00:43:46 Speaker 2: The situation that we're all in. 00:43:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:43:48 Speaker 1: And the populism that they wrote in on too, where they're like, dude, I'm like, I'm meeting people in the streets in my district who need help. And I'm trying to be like, yes. I'm trying to be a vote to try and do that. Now, I'm sure many are just paying lip service to get elected. But there is a shift in sort of the backgrounds of these candidates who aren't just like, my daddy was also congressman in this same district 40 years ago. And it's people who are actually, you know, have a more of a like a sort of political worldview that isn't informed by just sort of like, you know, vote blue no matter who sort of bullshit. 00:44:24 Speaker 2: Right. 00:44:24 Speaker 3: And we also were going to lose some, like we lost Fetterman, like that's eventually going to happen and it's going to suck. But like, we've, we've had so many come in at the same time that it's like, what are you going to say? 00:44:37 Speaker 2: I saw the wheels turning. 00:44:40 Speaker 4: Hey man. 00:44:41 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:44:42 Speaker 4: Fetterman. I mean, I do think we've come a long way from like Fetterman being like, I mean, the guy wears Carhartt. You got to give it to him. We got to elect him. 00:44:51 Speaker 2: He's blue collar. 00:44:51 Speaker 4: It's more than an aesthetic. To like the guy in Maine who just won, who's like an actual blue collar person. You know, obviously they at first they tried to do a Fetterman with that one guy who was like a monster. And then like once he didn't work out, they got an actual blue collar guy in there. 00:45:08 Speaker 3: Or the fucking there was a guy who was like a Prada model and like and and he's beautiful. And people are like they like they still prefer him because they know the money or the aesthetics doesn't matter. 00:45:20 Speaker 2: As much as the policies, you know? 00:45:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll lack it. We'll laugh at Jake Lang. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. And, you know, everybody's trying to figure out where they stand in this new world after the big blue wave. And Jake Lang gets that this is a moment that he has to stand up and do his thing. This is the guy who... was what was he was protesting in Minneapolis yeah Minneapolis got duffed out by Spider-Man he gets hit every city he goes. 00:46:09 Speaker 3: To and then he came to another city and there were like multiple Spider-Men and he got scared like didn't come or something like that or right I mean he probably came but not in that way um. 00:46:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems like it seems like he rolls up and is like, oh, no, are you going to hit me? Oh, and yeah, just a little bit of horny. He's a little penis. So he recently tried to ruin a Diwali celebration in Seattle. And by going and just screaming, he had a group of protesters who who rolled with him. And with all kinds of screaming racism and anti-Hindu slogans with like placards. Very, what was that old church? Westboro Baptist Church. Yeah, Westboro. It's very Westboro Baptist. 00:47:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, like with having the most inflammatory shit on a sign. That he could possibly come up with. To be like, you're going to punch me, right? 00:47:09 Speaker 2: It's also like, dude, if you want Indian food, just ask. 00:47:12 Speaker 4: Like, I'm sure there's extra. Yeah, culturally. They'll be like, oh, you hungry, bro? 00:47:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:47:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude. Come on. He's like, what is this? So he was a January 6th rioter. That's like kind of how he was. He like one of the ones who got released by Trump or he he was in prison. He was in prison for four years before he got pardoned by Trump. Yeah. OK, so he's one of those. 00:47:34 Speaker 2: I think he got released by Trump. 00:47:36 Speaker 4: Yeah. He got a digital release. Sure. 00:47:42 Speaker 2: This man is 31? He looks 40-something. 00:47:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:47 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. Hate will age you. Hate will age you. Yeah, he's looking like, you know, a decade has passed since the Spider-Man video. 00:47:59 Speaker 3: Right. 00:48:00 Speaker 2: Wait, I just. 00:48:01 Speaker 4: Been a tough month. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: He's like, he's got a Jewish mother, but he's anti... He's renounced all ties to Judaism and Israel and is... posted himself burning a copy of the Talmud and the Quran and all this shit. But apparently Nick Fuentes has denounced him for having Jewish heritage. 00:48:18 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the guy's name is Nick Fuentes. What? What is happening? 00:48:23 Speaker 4: It's all. 00:48:24 Speaker 2: Why are all the white supremacists brown? What's going on? 00:48:27 Speaker 1: Nick Fuentes, denounce your last name. Yes, I'm now Nick Franklin. 00:48:31 Speaker 4: Thank you. So he then showed up at what he thought was a furry convention and started yelling at everybody for indoctrinating the youth with homosexual and transsexual ideas. Here's the thing. 00:48:45 Speaker 3: If he really wanted to fight furries, he would have gone to the fucking furry convention in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania represent. And he would have like fought slash fucked 5,000 furries. 00:48:55 Speaker 2: Okay. He didn't really want that smoke is what I'm saying. I don't think he did. 00:49:01 Speaker 4: It was literally a cat themed convention for cat lovers that happened to have a cat mascot out front, which makes me like, was he literally just walking past the, Like, is that how this came about? I mean, there were cameras, so maybe he was just, like, out for a troll, and... Yeah. 00:49:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:49:25 Speaker 4: People are, you can hear them like

audibly laughing at him in the video as he rants about furry orgies. And like, you can see that like, he doesn't, he doesn't know what's actually happening. He's like, yeah. And the fact that like the cat mascot is not sexual in any way, but, but clearly in. 00:49:45 Speaker 1: His eyes, it is person wearing person wearing animal costume equals furry and indoctrination. 00:49:50 Speaker 4: Although, you know, that, that, that, that outfit is pretty cool. Um, Here he is. He's pointing to the person in the costume. Just mocking. Kind of hitting the gritty, I think. Yeah. Now the sprinkler. 00:50:02 Speaker 5: Sprinkler. These people here, they dress up in these outfits and then they have sex with each other in these orgies. 00:50:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. 00:50:11 Speaker 5: Orgies. 00:50:12 Speaker 2: Orgies. Sex orgies. 00:50:14 Speaker 4: Bro, I sound so smart right now. 00:50:16 Speaker 2: They have sex with each other. He sounded like the other Nick. What's his name? 00:50:20 Speaker 3: The young dude who destroyed the daycare center operations in Minnesota. So many fucking illiterate Nicks. 00:50:30 Speaker 4: Nick Shirley. 00:50:32 Speaker 2: Nick Shirley. 00:50:32 Speaker 3: If it wasn't for fucking... streaming and phones being in our hands, this would just be a man yelling on a street corner. 00:50:39 Speaker 4: Like, why? 00:50:40 Speaker 6: Why? 00:50:40 Speaker 4: Like, his job is to just... Right, this is, yes, a disturbed person, right? Yeah. 00:50:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:50:46 Speaker 4: This is a convention for cats, said one of the staff. Yeah, right. 00:50:51 Speaker 1: For cats, yeah, well These cats. 00:50:54 Speaker 3: Are tripping And I fuck cats, and you guys are fucking cats So that's, if you're having a convention You're gonna be fucking these cats, right? 00:51:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, if this is just for cats And not furries, then why am I so horny? Answer me that. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: Why is my dick rising so slowly? 00:51:11 Speaker 4: Making a very slow Sad trombone sound. 00:51:17 Speaker 1: And that whole time he's wearing his dumb little tactical vest underneath his like long sleeve polo shirt. It just looks such a stupid outfit. But he's again, he's just out here because all he can do is just to be as inflammatory as possible. I think to the point where now it's like. I'm glad the response is that he's just getting laughed at rather than people getting like turned up because he's also trying to provoke people to be like, that's his whole thing. 00:51:41 Speaker 4: He's like, see what happens, man. I go out there. I'm saying the truth. And now people trying to knock me out because I'm against sanctuary cities. 00:51:47 Speaker 3: But also there's like children at a cat convention, right? Like what the fuck is he doing? 00:51:52 Speaker 4: That was his whole complaint. How could you possibly dress up as that incredibly hot cat when there are children here? 00:52:00 Speaker 1: It's just like a, Again, they don't give a shit

about kids. They don't give a shit about anything. This guy is just a grifter. He got out of prison. He's like, well, now I'm hopefully because I'm the apple of President Trump's eye, kind of, I can go out here and just do this dumb shit for just outrage clicks. And even that's dying off. And now he's just becoming like a lolcow person on the internet. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: This is like a thousand percent like why I would be terrified to have children. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: Like, what if you made that? You know what I mean? 00:52:34 Speaker 3: Sure. Like, what if that ended up being your kid and you're like, oh, God, where's my kid? 00:52:39 Speaker 2: Yours is like in med school. 00:52:41 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: Mine's outside yelling somewhere at an adoption event. 00:52:45 Speaker 4: He's actually working in the media. He's really, you know, getting a lot of traction doing. I actually can't tell you his name. I'm just glad he's outside. I actually can't tell you his name for reasons. That's crazy. This dude went to Jerusalem after his bar mitzvah. There's a photo of him at the Western Wall with his bar mitzvah certificate. And then I don't know when he maybe for the grift had to be like, I'm actually not. I hate my mom. 00:53:09 Speaker 2: That's so crazy. 00:53:10 Speaker 4: But there's just a lot. 00:53:10 Speaker 1: I mean, these people are all fucking broken, you know, and and clearly like I don't I don't think we would raise people that are this attention starved because I'm sure like everyone you say, hey, I love you. 00:53:22 Speaker 4: You know what? I love you. 00:53:23 Speaker 1: Hey, let me see that drawing. 00:53:24 Speaker 4: That's cool, man. Let me see your drawings. Oh, you're into this? Oh, yeah, I'd love to see that. He didn't grow up hearing that shit. 00:53:29 Speaker 2: Do you need mental health care? Let me provide that for you because you're my child and I love you. 00:53:34 Speaker 4: Okay, well, we didn't hear that with immigrant parents. 00:53:37 Speaker 2: We did not hear that with immigrant parents. We'd be gentle parenting the fuck out of them, right? 00:53:41 Speaker 4: My mom, what do you have to be depressed about? No, literally. 00:53:47 Speaker 2: Literally. 00:53:48 Speaker 4: Do you know how hard Japan was after the war? 00:53:51 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 00:53:52 Speaker 3: I saw this guy who was like pretending to be like his Indian dad. 00:53:56 Speaker 2: And he's like, burned out. Bloody burned out. 00:53:59 Speaker 3: What do you mean you're burned out? 00:54:03 Speaker 4: You think when. 00:54:04 Speaker 2: I came to this country, I was burned out? 00:54:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, no, I get it. And mom, that's what I'm saying. Don't you want better for the future generations? She's like, I don't know. I don't know what y'all are crying about. 00:54:16 Speaker 2: My mom's like, why are you giving your white therapist your money? 00:54:21 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 00:54:22

Speaker 2: My mom's sobbing. She's crying. She's like, I don't need therapy. Why do you need therapy? 00:54:29 Speaker 4: Pallavi, such a pleasure having you, as always, on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, see you, all that good stuff? 00:54:41 Speaker 3: I'm at PaulaVeganAllen everywhere. Please, please listen to the Millennial Mood Board podcast. I'm so proud of it. It's so fun. This week's episode was Dream Phone, and we give you an update on all the guys on the cards from the Dream Phone era. And you can join our Patreon as well. It's at Millennial Mood Board Pod everywhere. I also have Second Screens Comedy. Our next show is November 22nd at the Elysian Vault Room. It's going to be so fun. We encourage you to be on your phones and playing games and neurodivergent. And we hand out candy and it's basically a party. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: So come through. 00:55:19 Speaker 4: Amazing. Just the dream phone was that it was a game. 00:55:24 Speaker 3: It was like a board game where you had like, there's 24 different guys and you have to like make calls and figure out who likes you. 00:55:32 Speaker 2: And so, yeah, we looked up like, it's, well, there were four. 00:55:37 Speaker 4: Did they update it? 00:55:39 Speaker 2: And no, this was like, no, they did. 00:55:41 Speaker 4: Not update it. Oh no, there was Jamal. 00:55:46 Speaker 3: Jasmine's crush is Wayne. So Wayne, if you're out there, we need to find you. Cause she's very curious about. 00:55:52 Speaker 2: What's happened to you. Okay. 00:55:53 Speaker 4: I miss John. He's he's yeah. Okay. He's maybe biracial. 00:55:56 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:55:56 Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah. 00:55:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. So there were some, um, could. 00:55:59 Speaker 4: You imagine speculating what they're up to these days? 00:56:03 Speaker 3: No, we did the we did the there's a comedian named her handles at Hannah. And she has been investigating and going down like what has happened to all these guys. How old were they when they were photographed? Some kids, some of them were like 15, some were like 24. 00:56:18 Speaker 4: Oh, the actual model. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: The actual model. 00:56:22 Speaker 3: But they one interesting fact that you'll learn about if you go listen to the pod is it is they didn't know that they were going to be on this board game. And some people found out when they. 00:56:31 Speaker 2: Saw the commercial. 00:56:32 Speaker 3: So like they became the crushes of like all of these girls and they had. 00:56:39 Speaker 2: No idea they were going to, and they weren't, they were barely compensated, of course, you know? 00:56:45 Speaker 3: So it's, it's just interesting. Like we, every episode we talk about something different. The episode before that, I talked about Lance Armstrong and like that whole saga. And it was fucking insane. That was crazy, crazy to learn about. So it's really fun. 00:56:59 Speaker 4: Thanks. Cheat your way to the top, baby. Go check it out. Hell yeah. Live fraud. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? 00:57:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. So you were actually talking about reconstruction. 00:57:11 Speaker 3: Um, I have been reading the warmth of other sons by Isabel Wilkerson and it's really good. And it talks about the great migration. I'd never read it before. Um, and was trying to learn more about it. Um, but it, it's like, so, so incredibly well researched. Um, but it's kind of like this, we, I've never seen a book written like this before where it's like, feels like fiction and nonfiction. 00:57:35 Speaker 4: Like she interviews all these people. 00:57:38 Speaker 2: It's so interesting. 00:57:40 Speaker 3: But she has like all of these, you know, primary resources. And then she interviews, she goes through the stories of three different people throughout the Great Migration and like their individual stories. But she kind of tells their stories in like a kind of like a fictionalized way after interviewing them. But then she uses all of these, you know, like actual sources to kind of bolster like all of the claims that she's making and just in describing what happened during the great migration and like what prompted it and the effects and everything. So it's just like a really fascinating read. And I think it's like a part of history that people don't even understand. Like they don't even know the term great migration because they don't understand what happened. 00:58:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:58:21 Speaker 3: Cause it took place from like 1915 to 1975 or something like that. 00:58:24 Speaker 2: It was so big and it wasn't like led by a specific leader. 00:58:28 Speaker 1: Cause like my family went from Georgia to Chicago. And then Chicago to L.A., which because that was like sort of part of the next wave of a lot of black people going to like Oakland, Los Angeles, out west. 00:58:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:58:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:58:41 Speaker 1: And again, driven by the fact that like the South was too fucked up because they nipped. 00:58:45 Speaker 4: That shit in the bud after the Civil War. Exactly. 00:58:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And what I didn't realize was like how because like I have black friends who are like, yeah, our family was from Mississippi, but then we went to Chicago or whatever. And they like I didn't realize that it was all these train routes. Like it was whatever trains were available and you could like people could trace their ancestry like back along these train routes, which was so cool. 00:59:09 Speaker 2: I don't know. It was it was. just a really well written book. 00:59:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of like what station did they get on? And like, chances are, yeah, where you were living. 00:59:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really cool, because it's like so deeply reported, but it's telling the story of like, everyday people kind of, you know, like, you don't see that, like, it's usually like, and then, you know, they come into contact with like the president

or, you know, but it's just like really kind of street level, like what these people's lives were like in a, on a day to day basis. 00:59:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:59:38 Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me of like Alex Haley's roots a little bit, but like less fictionalized of their stories. 00:59:44 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 00:59:45 Speaker 3: Cause he talks about like actual people, but then he like paints their lives in a specific way, but she actually interviewed these people. So it's their, their real experiences through her amazing writing. 00:59:57 Speaker 4: Isabel Wilkerson. Great book. 00:59:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:00:00 Speaker 4: Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? 01:00:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Grey, talking about soccer on Ain't It Footy. And talking about 90 Day Fiancé and the potential murderers that are on every season of that show. 01:00:14 Speaker 3: So crazy. 01:00:15 Speaker 4: Yeah. With Sophia Alexandra, a work of media I'm liking. 01:00:23 Speaker 1: I don't have anything specific. So I would just say, you know, people just keep doing you. Look at something that you enjoy. 01:00:30 Speaker 4: There you go. I wish I had something better than that. But oh, wait. 01:00:33 Speaker 3: Chata. 01:00:34 Speaker 2: Chata the bear. 01:00:35 Speaker 5: Oh, wait. 01:00:35 Speaker 4: No, actually, no. What am I saying? I do have one. I didn't even look at my legs. 01:00:39 Speaker 1: This one's called Your Sleep Paralysis Demon is a White Guy from Northeast Philly. 01:00:43 Speaker 4: Dude, and I was like, yo, what do you keep staring at me for, dude? I don't care if we're a Sesame Place. I'll punch you dead in your jaw in front of your family. Punch you dead in your jaw in front of your family. 01:00:56 Speaker 2: That's just like the Boston thing. 01:00:59 Speaker 4: Oh, shit. So good. Oh, sorry. 01:01:01 Speaker 1: That one is from at Eddie Diesel. That's the same guy, Jack, who told the story about. 01:01:05 Speaker 4: Who did the Ryan Coop? 01:01:06 Speaker 1: No, who did the reverse Philly, like how you said he talked about what it was like for him to leave Philadelphia. 01:01:12 Speaker 4: And he's like, everybody's fucking nice. What the fuck is going on here? And I was coming from Nice World into Philly. And they were like, hi, nice to meet you. Head or gut? What? Oh my God. I think your fist touched my spine. 01:01:25 Speaker 3: I was going to say there was this one video I saw of like, I wish I knew the username, but it was like a haunted house, but it's just your family criticizing the Indian food at dinner. And it goes around to everyone and they're like, this isn't hot. 01:01:39 Speaker 2: What is this? Barely bland. 01:01:41 Speaker 3: Seasoning's bad. 01:01:43 Speaker 2: I could do it better. It was so triggering. 01:01:48 Speaker 4: You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. Blue Sky, Jack OB, the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore O'Brien. Uh, and for work of media, uh, go check out the warmth of other sun. So I'm going to piggyback on politics. It's a great book. 01:02:03 Speaker 2: So good. 01:02:03 Speaker 4: Go check it out. Go also check out Libby. If you don't, if you're not using your Libby app, the Libby app is so very cards. You get a library card, you have access to books on tape, e-books, and then you can manage your actual library books. But I use it a lot for research for the iconograph and highly recommend that app. That app. That app. Tap that app. Tap that app. Please, go tap it. It's the one app that I'd say deserves the... Everybody's always given five stars to all these fucking apps. Give that one five stars. Go check it out. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes. Footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, Surprise Chef. 01:03:07 Speaker 1: You know, one of has become one of my kind of favorite groovy bands out of Australia. 01:03:11 Speaker 4: They just go to good. They've got a good sound night. They've got a new album out. That's really good. 01:03:16 Speaker 1: It's called Frogs in a Pond. It's just like super like ice. 01:03:20 Speaker 4: It's smooth. It's got a little neck snap to it. 01:03:23 Speaker 1: And it kind of has like all these different vibes on the album. 01:03:26 Speaker 4: But this one track is called The Reno. R-E-N-O. 01:03:30 Speaker 1: It's by Surprise Chef. put it on, but put the whole album on. It's really great listening. Again, that album's called Frogs in a Pond by Surprise Chef. 01:03:38 Speaker 4: We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye! Bye! 01:03:56 Speaker 1: The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long. 01:03:59 Speaker 4: Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M. 01:04:03 Speaker 2: McNabb. 01:04:04 Speaker 1: Edited and engineered by Justin Conner.