บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Cornish Ghost Stories with The Alchemy Witch.

00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.360 Yeah, I wanna say Guineva Cove. 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:05.759 Guinevere Beach, which is Penzanceway. 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:13.920 So he went from being a man of the law to going to going against the law and just murdered people. 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:23.360 Yeah, and I guess it's that thing that even though he was a man of the law, that doesn't necessarily mean that he was a good man in the whole time he was in the magistrate, so it's it's that irony of yeah. 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:24.399 Abuse of power. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:24.800 Yeah. 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:25.439 Yeah. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:27.120 So who did he murder? 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:31.439 So the name Anne was mentioned, which could have been his wife. 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.240 So he was a magistrate in Bodmin. 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:37.839 Interesting. 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.480 So you can still hear him wailing. 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:53.680 Yeah, so on the stormy nights you can still hear his wails that like his soul kind of crying out in desperation from all the sort of treacherous, endless tasks that he was put through. 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.319 I guess his soul never got to rest. 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.480 I mean, you can't have your cake and eat it though, can you? 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:06.639 You can't like you can't be like, I'm gonna go and murder people, or but I don't want to go to hell for it. 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:24.639 And then, you know, what whoever it may be, whether it's the devil, a demon, or some sort of guardian of of so-called hell, goes, Okay, well, you know, if you don't wanna, you know, pay the price for the awful things that you've done, you can just do these endless tasks to stop yourself from going going to hell. 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:28.399 And then he's sort of wailing in the afterlife, going, Oh, it's not fair. 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:29.439 Tough shit. 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:30.720 Like, tough shit. 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.160 You don't get away with it that easy. 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:32.959 You can't have your cake. 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:37.439 And like thinking if he was a magistrate, like think about all the people he would have put away. 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:38.000 Yeah. 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:40.160 Whether it was rightly or wrongly. 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.800 Um, so yeah, there would have been a lot of karma on his plate to balance out. 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.560 Yeah, so he's he's down, his soul is down to fraternity. 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.199 Sounds like, yeah, but he'll never be resting. 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:55.680 So if you're down that way and you hear wailing, that that will be who you'll hear me. 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:58.480 He just let it go on a bit like fuck that guy. 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:04.240 That's a real real evil laugh. 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:05.279 Witches. 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:09.920 Cool, okay. 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:11.040 Who's next? 00:07:11.199 -->

00:07:12.160 Who else do you have? 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:16.560 I think one of the areas in Cornwall that fascinates me the most has to be the Borderman area. 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:23.920 Because obviously you've got the jail, but you've also got what used to be the asylum, which is now the mental health service, um, like mental health hospital. 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:29.680 But I've heard some incredible ghost stories from people that worked at the asylums out there. 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:35.279 Apparently, it was a very common experience that staff would walk down the corridors and you'd hear someone walking behind you. 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:36.000 It's very true. 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:44.160 And yeah, they'd look behind them, there'd be no one there to the point that this happened so much that staff would just stop turning around because they knew nobody would be there, that it would be a ghost. 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:52.800 Um, and then obviously, yeah, all the stuff at Baldman and just Baldwin in general has got some very intense, heavy energy different to Dartmoor energetically. 00:07:52.959 --> 00:08:03.120 I know when I went and I think we spoke about this in the last podcast actually, but I when I went to Baldwin jail as a child, had quite a personal experience there, which I think was my past life remembering something very traumatic. 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:10.560 And I know other people that have had similar experiences, and obviously the treatment of witches over there, it would resonate with some of us. 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:30.000 Because I think my I can't remember her name now, but I remember when you walk around Baldman jail and there is a story of the witch who basically cursed the jail, and they had I think it was then infested with crows, and it there would just be like hundreds and thousands of crows like flying around the prison, and that was her like last sort of hex onto the prison before they killed her. 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:34.720 Um yeah, I remember reading that as I went around the jail and just be like, you go get out. 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:35.759 I love that. 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:37.360 Just shit all over them. 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.080 It's funny you talk about uh the hospital. 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:45.759 When you say um, when you say the hospital, do you mean the hospital that's there now or the old one? 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:52.960 The old one, because yeah, I think some of the old one has now been turned into flats, which is quite interesting. 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.639 Um that's very common, you know. 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:57.679 Yeah, it is. 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:58.000 Yeah. 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:04.000 Whereas yeah, they've now redone up the new one and they've got more of a modern mental health facility now. 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:04.799 Yeah. 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.679 I used to work on mental health wards in Budmine Hospital. 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:09.440 Brave girl. 00:09:09.759

--> 00:09:14.480 Let me tell you, working on a night shift on an acute mental health ward during a full moon is no joke. 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:14.879 No. 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:16.879 You've got balls of steel, mate. 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:18.159 I that would not be me. 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.240 But like, I never experienced anything whilst I was working there. 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.519 As in like nothing, nothing I didn't see any ghosts. 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:27.600 I didn't like unsettling. 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:37.919 Nothing nothing unsettling, but you could definitely feel the there were just some things that you just your body just said no, we're not going that way today. 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:43.039 I mean, some of the wards were more intense than others, depending on how poorly people were. 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:53.840 Like, you know, some people were under a section, you know, where there were sections for like six months, and sometimes that section would be extended because they were so still so unwell, and they could be in a ward for like, you know, a year. 00:09:53.919 --> 00:10:08.320 And if that ward had seclusion rooms and going down the seclusion corridor, because when you work on a seclusion room, if someone's in seclusion, you kind of like it's there has to be someone on the other side monitoring them and writing down what they're doing pretty much every minute, or like every five minutes. 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:12.159 So it's whether they're just you know sitting on their bed, you know, what's their breathing rate like? 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:12.960 Are they conscious? 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:13.840 Are they sleeping? 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.039 You have to keep you just have to log everything that they're doing. 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:27.039 And so depending on how volatile that patient was, you know, depending on what sort of psychosis they were experiencing, or just perhaps they were just angry at the situation that they were in because it's a very frustrating situation. 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:40.720 Walking down that corridor, because the corridor where the seclusion rooms were on one of the walls, you'd need us, you'd have to swipe to get in because it was airlocked, and you would just feel the energy as soon as you walked through that door, it was like, fucking hell, I already don't want to be allowed here for the next hour. 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.480 Like, I don't you just had to just sort of suck it up and carry on. 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.600 But at night it was just as it was just a different cut of fish. 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:54.000 Like you just felt like the energy was just very oppressive and sometimes just quite sad as well. 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:57.039 And yeah, I didn't do many night shifts because I didn't like them. 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:58.799 I think that's it with places like this. 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:03.120 It's not always like malevolent spirits that are there to cause like havoc

or mischief. 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:08.799 It is just, yeah, the the trauma that these people went through, and it's it's that energy that's still lingering. 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:16.879 And especially when we talk about Cornish buildings, a lot of them are really thick with granite, which is such a hardy stone that holds everything in. 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:18.960 So that energy has nowhere to go. 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:20.799 It is literally trapped within those walls. 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:21.120 Yeah. 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.759 Um you get that you get t stone tape theory. 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:24.240 Yeah. 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:29.440 Which is really and that's like that, it holds that residual residual energy and like has it just echoing. 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:29.919 Yeah. 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:34.720 Like like it's on right, it's on like repeat that scenario or whatever happened. 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.200 And it does make you wonder, doesn't it? 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:48.799 Because say, like the mental asylum and stuff, if those if those souls have never had that chance to rest, it's yeah, it it just my heart goes out to them a little bit because it's like even after passing, it's like they've never been able to find that peace. 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.360 They're still playing out through their suffering. 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:52.000 Yeah. 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:58.159 Actually, I think this is what has really drawn me to kind of dabbling more with ghost work and like hunting. 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:05.759 It's a lot of the time these spirits just want acknowledging, just want someone to send them a bit of love and just to help them transition. 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:06.159 Yeah. 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:10.799 And let go of whatever it is that's keeping them attached to this physical realm. 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:16.159 So apparently there's tunnels under Bobman Hospital which lead back to the old hospital. 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:16.639 Yeah. 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.000 And we think that's quite common. 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:21.919 I mean, I think it's quite common for older hospitals to have tunnels underneath them. 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:26.879 I I suppose if a hospital, like an asylum back in the days, asylums were huge. 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:32.559 Um, because it was a place for people to go, you know, to get well and to get better and to feel safe. 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:33.679 It was that asylum. 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.799 So they'll have like, you know, buildings everywhere, farm shops. 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.320 It would be like, you know, it could be up to like three, four miles long. 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.799 So I think tunnels were really quite common and quite normal. 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.200 And also they also had that also have like the body shoots as well. 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:49.759 So, you know, then just tunnel bodies down certain tunnels, some to the morgue or, you know, to a chapel

of rest. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:57.919 But I think there are tunnels still from the hospital where it's currently at to, I mean, you can't go in them now, but to where I think it was. 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:12.240 But I knew I spoke to a lady who used to work on the inpatient wards when she was younger, and she just said she just experienced paranormal activity all the time to the point where it was just she just shrugged it off and was like, you know, that's that's part and part of the parcel. 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:29.039 But she said she remembers sort of sitting down, having a cup of tea, and the doorway in front of her had like stairs, so she could see some stairs in the doorway in front of her, and she just looked up and she just saw skirts, like Georgian or Victorian skirts, just sort of going up the stairs, like a fucking flower tomato thing. 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.159 And I was just like, wow, like that's amazing. 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:34.720 Scary, scary, but yeah. 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:44.240 I think it always amazes me when people sit because I don't see visual stuff, so when people have actually seen a ghost or like fragments or something moving past, I'm always like, oh. 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.879 Um but yeah, it's a sh it's a shame that those tunnels aren't open anymore. 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.720 Because what a I wonder if people do have access to them, because what an interesting bit of exploration that would be. 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.480 Well, I think I think the maintenance staff would probably have access to them. 00:13:58.720 --> 00:13:59.679 It'll be a health and safety. 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.200 It would be a massive health and safety. 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:02.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:09.759 I mean, and also I think because it's still an active hospital, they couldn't really they couldn't hold those tours because there are there are still very poorly people there. 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.639 Unless the hospital moves again, maybe they don't know. 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.879 But yeah, tours being turned into apartments is a really common, common thing. 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:22.000 And then you get some you get some mad go stories from the It's kind of like what do you expect? 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:22.720 You know? 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:29.360 It's like if you're gonna go and build on or next to a graveyard, you can't expect nothing to sort of, you know, happen. 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:30.000 Yeah. 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:38.720 I wonder if people moved and moved into these flats knowledgeable of the history of the site they're on, or if they just go in completely blind. 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:40.399 I think they go in completely blind. 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:51.200 Unless unless they are of a spiritual, ghost hunting, pagan, richy nature, you know, or they've grown up with ghost stories or they know about stone tape theory. 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:54.399 I think I think the majority of them are going, this looks awesome. 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.919 Like, yeah, let's move in, and things are going bump in the night. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.720 It's like it comes with a little extra. 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:05.200 What about you? 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:06.960 What's your favourite ghost story? 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.519 So, oh, this one's great. 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:10.080 Okay. 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.600 So I'm gonna read this out to you, and then I'm gonna tell you something about it at the end. 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:16.399 Right. 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:17.840 So, Warlegan. 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.960 Now, if anyone listens to Polark, they'll know the name Warlegging. 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:27.120 This is a Paul Dark watch is Paul Dark one idea, but Warlegin is actually a little hamlet in um on the Bodmin Moor. 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:29.360 And this is Ghost of Cornwall by Peter Underwood. 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:30.960 So he visited Warleggan. 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:42.799 Even the brilliant sunshine on the day I first visited the former rectory here could not dispel the gloom and apprehension and air of apathy that hung over the place like a heavy cloud of doom. 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:56.399 The last incumbent eccentric Reverend Frederick William Densham, who served the parish from 1931 to 1953, is thought to still haunt the house and grounds, so the rectory and the church. 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.799 The house has a very weird atmosphere. 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:07.039 He painted the interior rooms red, yellow, and blue, and he painted the interior of the church in the same glaring colours. 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:13.200 He built a barbed wire fence all around the rectory garden, which he guarded with fierce dogs. 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:21.679 He refused to hold services at times convenient for his parishioners, and generally he lived at odds with the local people. 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:29.759 After a church inquiry into his conduct in 1933, the church council resigned in a body and never went near the church again. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:38.879 Since no one went to his service, many entries in the service book read on the lines of no fog, no wind, no rain, and no congregation. 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:50.879 In what surely must have been genuine unhappiness and sorrow, he cut out figures in wood and cardboard and fixed them to the pews, and to them he preached and offered absolution. 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.799 He gave the rooms in the rectory biblical names. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:59.440 He painted large pink crosses on the doors inside the rectory. 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:11.279 He preserved an ancient hiding place in old cellars, and eventually he fell down the stairs and died because he could not reach the bell pole that would summon his servant, who was quartered in the stables. 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:22.480 Long before the Reverend Frederick Densham was here, a previous building had occupied the site,

lived in by Ralph DeTrimer, the tremor, who is thought to have celebrated Black Mass in the church. 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.720 Certainly he burned the host, a small wonder that Warlagin is haunted. 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:31.200 When I was there some years ago, the house was empty and the garden overgrown. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:32.960 Both are certainly haunted. 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:46.640 I was assured, and there are numerous accounts of the sad, dark figure of Frederick Densham walking where he used to walk, towards the empty church, on moonlit nights or up the drive to the locked and barred door of the empty rectory. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:53.119 Sitting where he used to sit and preaching where he used to preach in his torn cassock and dusty hat. 00:17:53.839 --> 00:18:02.640 I heard stories of many odd happenings, some possibly paranormal in origin, and of the strange individuals who are drawn toward Legan. 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.039 But they never seemed to stay very long in a place of ghosts and hollow memories. 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.720 So that was by Peter Underwood, his book, Ghosts of Cornwall. 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.920 My mum and brother lived in that rectory a few years ago. 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:14.640 Yeah. 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:16.960 Strapping. 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:26.799 My mum and brother moved down to Cornwall in 2016, and they moved to the rectory uh in Warleggan on Bobman Moor. 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:34.160 Now by that time it had been completely done up, the gardens, the house, it'd all been completely refurbished, it'd been turned into flats. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.519 So I think there were four flats. 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:35.759 Okay. 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:39.279 And one of the flats um was a permanent caretaker. 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:41.359 Uh, and it was just absolutely beautiful. 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:46.000 It still is beautiful, it's it's gorgeous, and especially like with what the current owners have done with the place now. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:52.880 So my mum and brother um moved into uh an apartment there, and it was um an apartment on the second floor, two-bedroom apartment. 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.039 And did they know the history before they moved in? 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:55.519 No. 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:56.000 No. 00:18:58.960 --> 00:18:59.279 No. 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.599 So they were there from 2016 to 2019. 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:09.039 And because then we all sort of moved to Launston and I came down, and you know, we've all been sort of in North Cornwall ever since. 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.039 But I would go down and visit. 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:14.799 So there's there's complete truth to this story. 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:25.039 The inside, the interior doors of the rectory um have got crosses, pink crosses painted on them, because the doors have that panel where it looks like a Christian cross. 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:25.279 Yeah. 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.559 So he did paint them and write biblical names on all of the interior doors, which was really creepy. 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.160 The church, which you can which you can access through the grounds. 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.400 It's it's just in complete disarray, like disarray. 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.319 It's um it's it's falling apart. 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:46.400 Like there's like a huge, huge like branch of ivy just sort of growing and tendrelling down from the bell tower. 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:52.079 Um it's beautiful, it's very beautifully eerie, but it's it's eerie. 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:52.880 I can't remember. 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.200 I think some of the cardboard cutouts were still there. 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:55.759 No way. 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.559 I think there were some there still, the wooden ones, maybe, or I might have just imagined it. 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:01.440 But I think, yeah. 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:08.319 So I would have visited in 2016 and 2017 and 2018, and um, I never liked being in there on my own. 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:22.240 So, like so you'd walk, you'd walk into like the kitchen living room area, it was all open plan, and then you had like um a bedroom off to the kitchen and the bedroom off the living room, and then on the other side of the living room, that was bathroom, and I just never liked being in there on my own. 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:23.680 I just didn't just didn't like it. 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:26.480 I just kind of felt like my back was up, like my hackles were up. 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:28.160 There was always something watching me. 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:33.119 Um, but I'd always try and shake it off because I just wanted to enjoy my time down there. 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.160 I didn't want to focus on whatever I was sensing. 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.599 I never slept well when I was there at all. 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:41.759 Your body telling you something. 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.920 Like I'd like I'd like share my mum's room and I just did not sleep well. 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:50.960 Like you know, I was like tossing and turning, I was always awake in the night, I was always in a light sleep. 00:20:52.240 --> 00:21:02.799 Mum's neighbours across the hall, and it was like an apartment across the wall, but they were a young couple and they I think it was getting towards the end of their relationship because suddenly lots of arguing between them started happening. 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:08.000 Lots really sort of upset the balance, and that's when things started to get very strange in the rectory. 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:13.599 Like my mum noticed that things would fall off the wall, but there was nothing open, there was no window open. 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:18.880 In order for something to fall off the wall, you'd have to like physically pick it up off the hook and then let it and then have it drop. 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:20.720 Yeah, there was no way to agree with that.

00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:30.799 Just things, unexplainable things like things being moved, but you never moved them, doors opening, but you know you closed it, lights being on, but you know you switched it off before bed, that sort of thing. 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:44.000 But the scariest thing is my brother woke up one night to a figure standing at the end of his bed, and that figure was in the figure of what looked like Reverend Frederick Denjam, because he looked scary. 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:54.559 So there's photos of him and he would wear a yeah, like a big cassock, he'd have two walking sticks that were canes, and he'd have like this really sort of wide brimmed hat. 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.759 But his face, I think he was a very, very thin man, his face was hollow, so like. 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:04.000 His cheeks were very hollow, his eyes were sunken and quite dark. 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:07.039 And the driveway up to the rectory, there's no lights. 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.079 It's so in when it's dark, it's fucking dark. 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:13.200 Like it is so it's like it's like black velvet, it's so dark. 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.920 You'd probably just have the light coming from the windows of the rectory. 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:22.319 So if you had someone in a like a long cassock and a wide-brimmed hat on two canes walking up the drive, like it'd just shit you up. 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:23.519 It would shit you up completely. 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:32.160 But yeah, my brother woke up to a figure at the end of his bed and he was like, I'm like, I think it shit him up, if I'm honest. 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.599 He doesn't even like to talk about it. 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.119 God, yeah, my body's gone cold just thinking about it. 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:46.160 It's like when you get a sleep paralysis demon and you see like a hat man or how much look how long after that did he move out? 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:48.079 I think they moved out pretty quickly after that. 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:55.200 I think but I think they were already in the process of of sort of getting the house, getting the mortgage in the house, and you know, signing everything off and completing. 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:56.240 But yeah. 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:59.839 I think they might I wonder if did they change bedrooms? 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:00.480 I can't remember. 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:05.039 I'll have to go back and ask my mum again, but I know that my brother doesn't like talking about it at all, at all. 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:12.079 My mum didn't experience anything like my brother did, but she felt felt felt it when it was the energy was off. 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:13.200 And yeah. 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.799 And apparently there's like a secret room that no one's found in the rectory as well. 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.880 Yeah, I'm gonna have to do some research into this and maybe go on and have a little note. 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:27.599 But

the foundation of the building, the actual foundation, is um around a thousand years old. 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:27.839 Okay. 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:30.319 So this is what the caretaker was telling us who lives there. 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:37.680 And then obviously prior to that, they had um uh that that gentleman who lived there who celebrated Black Mass. 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.920 So it's gonna do all of that energy there as well. 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:46.799 The bit I found interesting, it was a very random detail, but did it say that he painted it all red, blue, and yellow? 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:48.559 Three primary colours. 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:55.680 Yeah, so he painted I'm just from a psychological perspective, this man's behaviour is quite fascinating to me. 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:57.440 Red, yellow, and blue. 00:23:57.759 --> 00:23:59.039 Yeah, primary colours. 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:06.480 And he painted the interior of the church in the same colours with barbed wire fence all around the rectory garden and guard dogs. 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.680 And he, you know, he completely lived at odds with his parish. 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:22.000 So they all stopped going to church because they didn't because he just kept doing things his it sounded like it it was his way or or no one else's way, like his way or the highway. 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:30.960 And it's like you can't as a reverend and you're moving into a new parish, you can't then just sort of go and upset the balance and like change the status quo. 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:47.279 I mean it and then just have your service at inconvenient times when people work and people are busy and living their lives, you know, suddenly sort of social isolate themselves because he just wasn't willing to ban to meet the people of the community. 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.200 But you're meant to serve the people of your community when you bought an interesting revenue to range. 00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:54.720 Yeah. 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:56.640 Thank you for sharing that. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:57.680 Oh you're welcome. 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:06.559 I didn't I didn't enjoy being there, like I said, it was uh yeah, it always gave me the creeps, so I was gonna have money left. 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.440 Um do you want to talk about Dock Acre House? 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.680 Have you got any information on Dock Acre House? 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:32.160 Well, not so much Doc I'd probably let you talk Dock Acre House, but I was looking into it because I think I when I was doing some research into ghost stories, Launchdon came up as being this is debatable, but being the haunted capital of Cornwall, with Dockacre House and obviously all the air around the cattle being the oldest parts of the town. 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:32.400 Yeah. 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.920 So there is a lot of energy and a lot of history there, and there was a lot of work houses. 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.960 You had like

the witches tower where all the witches were burnt. 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:43.440 No witches were burnt at the witches tower, but that's a really common real common misconception. 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.720 People like to just sort of spin for a bit of a ghost story. 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:50.400 They were held at the witches' tower, they were and then they were sent away to trial. 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:52.480 There was no witches burnt to sell. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:52.880 Yeah. 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.519 No, so it's it's really common because a lot of people think that witches were burnt and they weren't. 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:59.440 Uh okay, that makes more sense. 00:25:59.680 --> 00:25:59.839 Yeah. 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.279 Dockacre Road was the one that kept propping up a lot. 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.039 Um, and obviously you've got Dockacre House, which is quite fit. 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.640 And the workhouse is next to Dock Acre House as well, it's just around the corner from it. 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:13.920 Yeah, there's a lot of energy in that area of town. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:17.279 Because yeah, I think it was a couple of weeks ago you told me the story of Dock Acre House. 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:17.839 Yeah. 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.119 And it is quite a cool one. 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.440 So I'm gonna let you share this because you know it better than me. 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:28.880 So Dockacre House is allegedly the most haunted house in Lawnston, and it's a very, very old house is lived in. 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:33.920 And I know the people who live there, but I won't won't mention their names because you know I want to keep their keep their privacy. 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:34.960 That's important. 00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:40.880 So yeah, it's got it's got a bit of a dark history to it, Dock Acre House. 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:48.160 Um it was lived in by a gentleman called Nicholas Hurl, and it said that Nicholas shot his wife Elizabeth. 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:52.319 Accidentally. 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:59.680 But a lot of people or design, a lot of people think it was on purpose, and he shot her on the staircase of Dark Acre House. 00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:02.880 So I think it was just still sort of isolating her from home. 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:10.400 But the second tread of the stair, because where he shot her, it left a bloodstain on the second tread of the stairwell, and that bloodstain stayed there. 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.359 You couldn't get rid of it, it was like an everlasting bloodstain. 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:18.319 Um, and they removed the treads to get rid of the bloodstain. 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:32.000 Yeah, so Nicholas Hurle was a barrister, and he was also the mayor of Lawnston twice, between 1716 and 1721, and he died in 1728 outside of Cornwall and Helmstead. 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:36.799 There are pastor portraits of both Nicholas and his wife Elizabeth that are still hung up in Dockacre house. 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:37.680 They're still there. 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.640 But it's not his wife that wants the house, is it? 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.519 They say that it's his steward that wants the house rather than hers. 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:48.400 Yeah, so it's interesting because, like you said, she was mad. 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.839 She had mental health issues, but back in the day she would have been, you know, seen as just a mad, a mad woman, you know, a lunacy. 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:58.799 And he locked her away in the small upstairs room and then proceeded to sort of systema systemically starve her. 00:27:59.039 --> 00:27:59.920 He would starve her. 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:05.519 Probably th he probably thought, you know, it would k it would starve the madness out of her, you know. 00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:10.079 There was no such thing as sort of like psychiatrists or antipsychotics or therapy back in those days. 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:17.839 So it was either Yeah, just starve the madness out of her, um, which is you know, it's it's torture, isn't it? 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.599 It's you're not only isolating someone, but you're you're also torturing them. 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:26.480 Um and they said he sort of overdid it with starvation. 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.880 Um and she was sort of really cl close to almost death. 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:34.079 So she was like completely like emaciated, really, really thin. 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.279 She was sort of her body was shutting down and she managed to escape her room and she was almost at the bottom of the stairs of that second tread. 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.519 Um and then apparently he accidentally shot her dead. 00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:51.920 Like, okay, Nick, sure. 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:53.359 All right, Nick, whatever. 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:53.759 Okay. 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:54.640 Yeah. 00:28:55.039 --> 00:29:08.319 So yeah, you would think that her ghost would be haunting the house because she was like a tortured and trapped soul, and you know, she she lived in she was basically imprisoned and starved and tortured, you know, during the times that she was the time she was on Earth. 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.880 But uh yeah, it's mainly his ghost that is apparently meant to be there and that he's been seen. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:23.920 He he is seen throughout the house, but but mainly in sort of like the main hall, which is interesting because he died like in Hampstead, which has got to be like 200, more than 200 miles away from Cornwall. 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:24.160 Yeah. 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.039 So clearly he had a connection to the house when he died. 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.039 And he died in 1728. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:30.880 That's interesting. 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:34.799 Yeah, but he is also credited with playing the flute. 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:42.319 That's I did the sort of lore around the houses is that if someone

hears a flute being played in the home, it's an omen of death. 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:48.319 Oh yes, so death is coming, like someone is gonna die, there a death is about to occur in the house. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.640 The flute is still there, I think. 00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:57.119 I believe the flute is there, it's it's sort of locked away, um, and it cannot be played by a mortal man, so that they lock it up. 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.960 I mean, I'd be like I wouldn't have it in the house, but it's still there. 00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:06.400 But yeah, and I think part of it had also been made into a walking stick as well. 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:12.880 But there's also an association with walking sticks and Dockacre house, which is really interesting. 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:20.400 The tradition is, and this isn't just sort of like, you know, in the books that I have, but also like, you know, just pe folk talk around town as well. 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:29.359 But whenever someone, whenever the house is handed over to a new owner, apparently, or allegedly, I'm not saying this is true, this is just sort of gossip and folklore. 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:39.759 Allegedly, there is a clause when you sign the papers that you are not allowed to remove the portraits and you're especially not allowed to remove the walking sticks. 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.319 And you said the walking sticks are kept up in the attic. 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:43.519 I believe so. 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:44.079 Yeah. 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.200 Yes. 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:52.720 So they're kept in a sack in the attic and they are sort of subject to paranormal supernatural interference. 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:53.200 Yes. 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.400 So if they what if they're not kept in a particular order, they rattle. 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:05.680 The walking sticks rattle, and you have to sort of and if they don't get put in the correct sequence, they rattle until they sort of order themselves into the correct sequence that they prefer to be in. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.400 So it's like they have their own little personality. 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:14.319 It's like they don't like being next to certain walking sticks, and it's like, I don't want to be next to the cane, I want to be next to the guy further up. 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:29.519 Even walking sticks have got a life, yeah, so yeah, uh there there is that, and then there's also they've also got like loads of other collections, like someone's just like a sword stick. 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:36.559 So you know how like in Victorian times you'd have like a gentleman walking and then he'd suddenly like pull a sword out of his cave and be like, yeah. 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.599 So there's one of those sort of sword sticks, which is very cool. 00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.799 Walk um a cane. 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.480 Stick with a detachable knob so you can secrete poison. 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:45.200 Wow. 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:50.079 Well that well, all of these walking sticks supposedly is Nicholas. 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:50.799 I don't know. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:51.519 I don't have any information. 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.519 Yeah, but the thing is, like, I don't know, what did they have? 00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:05.759 I mean, I would suppose they would have yeah, they back in the 1700s they sort of have like walking sticks with like swords hidden in them all, ways you can like have poisonous vials in a walking stick. 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.079 But I don't know if they were Nicholas's or not. 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:09.279 I'm not sure. 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.359 Yeah, it'd be really cool to read into the energy of those, wouldn't it? 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:13.839 Yeah. 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.359 And they also call the flute playing spirit the man in red as well. 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:19.279 Um, yeah. 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.039 Very interesting. 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.839 But I've I've I knew someone who worked in that house. 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.200 So they were like doing a bit of painting or decorating and building, like they were helping it being refurbished. 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:33.920 And they didn't they just didn't like it. 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:34.400 Yeah. 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.519 That it was just they don't believe in ghosts. 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.559 They don't, they're not, they're a very logical, rational person. 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.160 And even though they were like, I would never go back to that house again. 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:44.720 Never. 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:45.680 That's the same. 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.240 And I absolutely adore the people that uh brave enough to live with. 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:55.279 I I get some people are so into their ghost art, it just yeah, they've got nerves to steal. 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.720 I got the heebie jeebies just walking past it from the outside. 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:05.440 Yeah, because it's quite I mean, I think from the outside, the public, you you're only seeing like a part of the house. 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:18.319 It's the back of the house, really, that you're seeing, you know, so it's not it's not much to look at, but I think the front of the house, because it's also private and it's got a lovely driveway and there are gardens, I think it actually looks quite pretty from the front, but from what the public see, yeah. 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.880 And because of the because of the colour it's painted, which is like that dark mustard yellow. 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:23.359 Yeah. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:24.480 So it's eerie. 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:25.839 It's almost orangey, isn't it? 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.319 It's very, it is very eerie. 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.279 Yeah, hats off to the people that are living there. 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.039 I think they went in knowing as well. 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.480 Yeah, I

you've got to a place like that fly me, surely. 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:41.359 You think they went in knowing and going, okay, well we're gonna make it work. 00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:47.519 We're gonna make it work, and we're gonna make it work with the spirits and the sticks, and we're gonna lock that flute up. 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.279 Protections sound really high. 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:58.319 But yeah, then just around the corner from there, so like, I don't know, about maybe 300 yards is the workhouse. 00:33:58.480 --> 00:33:58.880 Yeah. 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.119 And that's got some energy to it. 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:01.839 Yeah. 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.559 The workhouse has got some uh well, all workhouses, as we know, have very dark history. 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:11.519 I went to go and view a property actually, because they're again they've all been turned to apartments. 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:12.000 Of course. 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:12.639 Of course. 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:14.320 So I went to go and view an apartment there. 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:20.639 I just no the apartment was lovely, and I'm and it had been made into an absolutely lovely home. 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.079 It was freezing. 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:28.559 It was freezing, and it was still quite warm when I went to and I just did not feel comfortable in there at all. 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:38.239 And there was uh there was an attic hatch in the living room, and I was like, absolutely not, yeah, yeah. 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.920 So it was like yeah, spooky. 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:52.400 It's a fascinating bit of uh yeah, history, Launchdon, like considering how long I've lived down here and how local Launchon is for me, and only recently yeah, sort of educated myself on all of this. 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:52.719 Yeah. 00:34:52.960 --> 00:35:09.039 It's not spoken about enough, and I just yeah, I think your book, what we were just looking through, like there is literally ghost stories for every part of there's obviously Bodmin, Bodmin Jail, Lan Hydrock House, Borventor, and which is uh Jamaicum Inn and Daphne de Maurier. 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:10.880 Boss Castle was there this morning. 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:22.559 So obviously you've got the Wit Museum of Magic and Witchcraft, which is gonna ho host a lot of paranormal activity with all of the stuff that they've curated and collected and exhibited over the years. 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:26.639 So that's gonna be like a a hotbed of paranormal activity and energy. 00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:33.039 Um but the Wellington Hotel uh is a 16th century coaching inn, and that's meant to be haunted as well. 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.480 One I really want to go to is it the Highwayman Inn on Dartmoor? 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.800 It's the one that's got like the big shoe outside of it. 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:42.480 That's meant to be quite a haunted part. 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.280 I wanna go have a little exploring there at some point. 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.679 Yeah, that would be good. 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.960 And just even like when you look at like the folklore and stuff, because one of my favourites is do you know the hairy hands? 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:54.639 Oh, loved that when I was growing up. 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.039 I think it's like near Princetown on Dartmouth. 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:08.400 Yeah, over to Princeton is you've just passed two bridges, and yeah, there's that like stretch of road, and every time I drive it, I grip my steering wheel and I'm just like gosh, yeah, because I remember reading that. 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:09.920 I think it was a motorcyclist. 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.079 It tended to be people on like push bikes or motorcycles. 00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:19.360 I think there was a few accounts of people in cars, but yeah, mostly seems to be motorcyclists. 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.079 It used to terrify me that story as a child. 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:23.199 It used to terrify me. 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:28.880 And then a couple of years ago, I went on a date to Princeton, and it just did not occur in my mind at all. 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:34.400 And I was like driving over Dartmoor in the dark, across those two bridges, across to get to Princeton. 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:42.960 And the whole time I was thinking, well, it'd be so awful if like someone in like a in like a hooded row just sort of walked out aerily across across like from my car. 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:44.400 Because my mind likes to do shit. 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:45.599 Yeah, what you're not the first one. 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.519 It's evil, and my mind is like it likes to just mess with me. 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:56.400 And it's you know, I'm just there on the way to on the way to the pub for a to meet someone for a drink, and my mind goes, let's fuck you up a little bit, shall we? 00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:05.440 Um, but then when I got back, I realised that I'd been driving on the road and every hands are, and I was like, never going back there again, ever. 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:06.320 I think so. 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.920 Um there's yeah, some great folklore around Dartmoor. 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.559 There's another pair of hands on Dartmoor ghostly hands that come out. 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:13.440 Yeah, they're blue. 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:14.480 Yeah, they're blue ones. 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:16.079 Well, I at least I think they're blue. 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.840 Yeah, there's another, but not hair, they're not hairy, they're just sort of blue, blue hands that come out. 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:20.559 Yeah, okay. 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:26.960 Dartmoor's got a whole, yeah, it's a whole hub of stuff on there, which is awesome. 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:27.360 Yeah. 00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:38.480 Yeah, there's just such height between the moors and just calling a joke, like we've just got so much height energy here, and then you throw

in all the quartz and like the energy from the actual like crystal that's in our rocks as well. 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.559 Yeah, amplifying it all in the ground that then holds it all in. 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.880 We've got so many ley lines running. 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:46.239 Yeah, yeah. 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:47.760 Um yeah. 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.519 I think it's something that needs to be a little bit celebrated more. 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.800 Um, because it is a huge part of Cornish history. 00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:04.239 Um we kind of push it aside because it's woo-woo and not logical, but I know, but then I think it's but then for Halloween, then for Halloween, everyone wants a fee. 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:16.400 You know, I get that Bobman jail um needs to cap needs to obviously capitalise, especially at this time of year, you know, and it and then it's like everyone's suddenly like, ooh, and then for the rest of the year they're like, nah, that's bullshit. 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.199 It's like you can't pick and choose when you want to believe. 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.000 Ghost stories aren't just for Halloween, they're not just for Halloween. 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:23.199 Yeah. 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:24.559 So what else do you have? 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.599 Cornish ghost stories, spoopy horn tales? 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.400 Jamaican being classic. 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.480 Because I did a little, I stayed there. 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.400 I don't see terrified myself, but um, yeah, that was quite an experience. 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:37.599 What happened there? 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:44.719 Thankfully, because I think the worst rooms at Jamaican, I think it's number four and number five, which is like the other end of the corridor to where we were. 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.440 So straight away I was like, well, at least I'm not in the worst room. 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:53.280 And but we stayed in the old bit of the Jamaica in, um, rather than like there's like the new side. 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.480 And we'd just like gone down to the bar area at night and we were I'd taken my dowsing rods down. 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:06.079 But while we were up in like the rooms, I connected in to a young female who we then found out the name was Hannah. 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.719 Um, and I knew she had like pigtails in her hair and like a little like dress on. 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:18.159 And there was like a moment when I had the dousing rods, and she was just like skipping and laughing around the room, and the dowsing rods were just spinning, like absolutely mental. 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:25.119 The energy was really cool, and we spent quite a lot of time with her, and she kind of just attached herself to us because she was like, Oh yeah, girl time, I want to come hang out with the girls. 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.559 Another old lady in our room, but she didn't want anything to do with us. 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.400 She was like, I'm here, leave me alone. 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:32.159 Like, I'll respect you if you respect me. 00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:33.599 So we were just like, Yep, that's fine. 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.239 And then in the evening we went down, sat in the bar. 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:43.920 And it got to about two o'clock in the morning, and we all saw this like shadow walk across the wall, and it headed towards the bar. 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:50.159 And as it got to the bar, all the bearing in mind this was like one of the stormiest nights we'd had that year. 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.800 So it was like the stormiest atmosphere was insane. 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.440 It was very, very creepy, very pathetic fallacy. 00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:01.280 But this shadow had gone towards the bar, and as it got to the bar, all the lights went and just like shut down. 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:08.639 And then we're sat there in the bar and pitched back, and we all just went, I think there was one friend who wasn't scared, and she was just looking at us all like, What's wrong? 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:09.920 We're like, No, that's it. 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.079 That felt like us being kicked out. 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:25.920 It was like until that moment, we'd felt welcome, and there was no like there was no heavy energy, like you could sense things, but we felt safe, we felt content, and that moment it just felt like it was them going, No, no, we want our bar back now, get the fuck out. 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:31.280 Yeah, so we didn't feel welcome, sort of beyond that point, and then yeah, we all kind of just went back up to our rooms. 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.639 But I was sharing a room with my friend who just like falls asleep in an instant. 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.000 So I'm lying there the whole night, just like like terrified. 00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:39.440 Were you in room four? 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.679 No, we were in I think it was room eight or nine, we were like the other end of the corridor. 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:53.840 It's like every time we'd have to go down the stairs, I'd look down the corridor towards like room four and five, and that entire corridor had a really eerie energy and like none of the lights were on, yeah. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.159 Like we'd all run down and just be like, with the water. 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:57.679 Did you have to did you have to go? 00:40:58.159 --> 00:40:59.840 Did you have to look at it in order to go? 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:06.719 Yeah, because we were on the left, so like your corridor would join up with that, they like join up and then both go down the stairs. 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:17.920 So like you can't, it's like dead in front of you, and you're trying not to look, but then you're also getting drawn into looking at the same time, but it had very heavy energy, and I was like, Yeah, I'm really grateful I wasn't staying in that bit of the building. 00:41:18.159 -->

00:41:22.639 And like outside you can hear horses' hoofs and like carts going past there. 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:31.920 Yeah, and but in the room we were staying in, there was like one corner of the room that was really cold, and we couldn't pin what it was. 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.599 We were like, What is that corner? 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:41.760 Yeah, and then it was when we went down to the museum the next day, and right underneath where that corner of our room would have been, there was a Ouija board. 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:49.840 And we instantly were like, That's what I was feeling feeling! Like not like, oh, that'll be it. 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:58.079 But then we were watching like the little video they do, and they were talking about Hannah and another ghost called Jack, and those were the two that we'd like kind of honed in on. 00:41:58.159 --> 00:41:58.320 Yeah. 00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:05.199 And then we'd watched the videos on them, and we were like, Yeah, that's unlike they brought up a picture of the little girl, and I was like, that's exactly what I saw. 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.159 Um, so yeah, that was quite affirming. 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.280 But we had Hannah and Jack, which were nice spirits. 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:18.000 I know there are a few malevolent ones there because it was just smugglers in, but overall it was quite a nice experience. 00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:21.679 It was just like, yeah, that two o'clock point came, and it was just like, yeah, get out of. 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:23.280 Yeah, yeah. 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:25.039 Interesting. 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:26.159 Yeah. 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:41.760 That is very I mean, I don't know whether I would I've been on ghost hunts, but I haven't experienced anything like that, like you have, like hearing hearing the horse hoofs and seeing the shadow and the lights immediately going down and you know, the unexplained cold spot. 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:43.840 I haven't experienced that on ghost hunt. 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:50.400 I sometimes wonder if I'm a bit sort of spiritually cop-blocked, like my spirit guides are like no no no no no no no. 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.480 Like she's not she's not looking at that, like you know, she's too fragile. 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:55.360 It's funny, isn't it? 00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:05.440 Because I do think we come into this this life with a bit of a contract around I don't when I say I see things, it's like I can mine's more of the clair cogniance and like clairsentience. 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:10.719 So I feel things and I can kind of use those senses to build up my own image, but I don't actually get the visual. 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.840 Whereas some people like, yeah, they all see ghosts or they'll hear things. 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.039 I think we all have different kind of contracts that we laid down. 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.679 I'm pretty sure I went, yeah, nah, I'm too much of a wimp. 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:21.119 Don't show me anything. 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:25.199 I don't want to see it, I don't want anything to touch me, I don't want anything whispering in my ear. 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.000 So instead I get it through different senses. 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:34.400 It's because yeah, if I was to see a ghost right in front of me, I'd probably just break down and then never explore that again. 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:40.239 So maybe it's something similar where it's just yeah, tapping into maybe a different way of communicating. 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:47.840 Because you definitely have like the heightened sensitivity for it, like the fact you're walking into places and you can instantly feel when something's off. 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:59.840 Yeah, but I don't I don't get the the visuals that some people get or like hearing and I would like that, but yeah, I just think my spirit guides like no, she's too. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.559 Fragile, but in a bad way, like a bomb. 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:03.440 She just woke up. 00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:04.639 It'd be really interesting. 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.440 So I might have to take you on a ghost tour now after some. 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.559 I'd love to see the Esther's methods because some people have to be. 00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:11.840 I love the Esther's method. 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.760 Oh my god, shall we talk about the Esther's method? 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.719 Is a relatively new method that ghost hunters use. 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.559 It was developed by a chap in America who was staying at like a hotel. 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.119 It was called like the Estes Esther's Hotel or something like that. 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:25.519 So it's named after the place that he was ghost hunting in. 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:33.280 And what you do is you put on a pair of noise-cancelling headphones so you can only hear what's in the headphones and a blindfold. 00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.920 So you're basically shutting down like um one sense and heightening another. 00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:40.000 And you have radio frequency. 00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.840 So you have like a radio frequency scanning through radio channels. 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:48.480 And as that's scanning through the headphones, the people around you are asking the spirits questions. 00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.360 And then whatever you pick up in the headphones, you speak out. 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.400 So then and then, but you don't know the questions that are being asked. 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.719 So you're just here, you're just saying what you're hearing through that radio frequency scanner. 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:05.440 And then people have said that, you know, the questions that they asked are usually answered because you become a conduit, basically. 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:06.719 I love it. 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.159 It's I've done it once. 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:11.920 Done it once, but it

wasn't, but I was in the wrong, I was in the wrong setting to do it. 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.639 Like I did it on a ghost hunt outside of Launston Castle, but I wasn't blindfolded. 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:17.679 I was stood away. 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.440 It was it was I was very cold. 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.440 I could still see the group in front of me. 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.480 They were noise canting headphones, it was quite windy. 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.119 So I would love to do do it properly. 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.800 We should have to book that and then get some, yeah. 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.920 I it's a really powerful method. 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:42.639 It's one that I found a little bit unsettled with, and I think it's just because I'm so sensitive to like noise, and it's just like the scrambling of all the things. 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.400 It's very like and then you'll just get like one word that comes through really clearly. 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:56.800 It would almost make me jump because it was just like, and then like a word would come and I'd be like, Yeah, and then it's I think it's also going with people that you have like full trust in because you are completely shutting down all of your representatives. 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:04.400 It's like you are not aware of what's happening around you, and you have to just have like a thing where someone will be like, When we're done, I'll touch you firmly on the shoulder. 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:04.800 Yeah. 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:10.320 Um, but yeah, in that moment you're just basically opening yourself up as a channel, as a condom, like you said. 00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:26.719 Um, but yeah, it seems to have quite effective results because we found that when we went ghost hunting, they didn't mind the dowsing rods, but they weren't a fan of like the modern technologies and all the like flashing light things like they didn't like REM pods. 00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:28.000 Yeah, and I was like, you know what I'm saying? 00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.400 If I was a ghost and someone was like, Oh, go up to the light and make it flash, I'd be like, fuck off. 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:33.280 Yeah, yeah. 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:34.639 Kick the cat ball. 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:35.760 I'm not a fucking cat. 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:41.360 But the access method, they seem to like that because it's a way that yeah, they can bring through actual verbal language. 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:42.159 Yeah. 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:43.679 So we have to give that a try. 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:48.159 I would like to see something move, you know, like an object move on its own, you know. 00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:51.760 Would you ever be Have you ever done a wheedy board? 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.679 Yes, I did one this year actually. 00:46:53.840 --> 00:47:00.480 It was really quite it was quite interesting because um I've always been against them because they get a bad rep. 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:01.679 They get a bad rep. 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:13.760 I've watched a lot of scary films, and then I remember my dad saying that he did one in his twenties and the glass shattered and that um they all ran out of the house and they were in like this abandoned house. 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:18.719 Oh, I don't know, in in in the 80s, abandoned house, got nothing else better to do with a few beers. 00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:19.840 Let's get out of Ouija board. 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.719 Apparently the glass shattered, but he could have just been saying that to scare me. 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:23.519 It worked. 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:30.800 I went on a ghost hunt about 10 years ago in Leicester and I watched someone get out a Ouija board and use it. 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.519 I I didn't I refuse to participate, I just watched. 00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:40.719 That was interesting, but yeah, no, I did one for the first time this year at the Whiteheart Hotel in Launston, which is very it's very, very haunted. 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:42.000 And the plant chair. 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:43.679 We used what the normal plant chair at first. 00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:44.960 It was okay. 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.679 Like we got a few yeses and no's and a couple of words spelt out. 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:55.280 Um we were actually we were with the Jamaican paranormal investigation team. 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:04.239 They were running the paranormal investigation at the Whiteheart, so they were very good at making sure that we firmly put in boundaries and broke off the connection, you know, once we were done. 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.280 And you know, sort of those sort of rules of keeping your hand on it. 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.599 If you're gonna take your hand off, then you say goodbye first. 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.639 But then we moved on to a planchette which had a pen in it. 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:25.760 So you can do it where you put a piece of paper on the table and you hold and you hold the planchette, and the planchette has a is on is on wheels and it has a pen in it, and we connected to a witch and she started drawing a pentagram, which was incredible. 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:26.880 It was incredible. 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:35.760 Now I know that people say that there's a lot of sort of um, what is it, it's a cognitive bias where you're sort of subconsciously collected either subconsciously. 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.719 Um, and you know, it could that could be a thing, you know. 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:51.199 It it all of the all of the things were there, it was a perfect recipe to, you know, we were ghost hunting, we were in a really haunted building, there's witches in Cornwall, you know, so it's it's can what's the word? 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.320 It's like has those sort of subliminal messages for very brutal. 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.440 But yeah, I didn't I didn't feel scared afterwards, like nothing like nothing followed me home.

00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.440 They were really shit hot on the protection. 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:07.119 Yeah, and I think this is it, as it's it's the protection side of it, and like you said, really making sure you've closed down afterwards. 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:13.599 And I think that's why there's so many negative stories out there, it's just because people haven't taken the appropriate hygiene with it. 00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:18.000 But yeah, I've always wanted to do one, but I know it's not something I want to sit and do alone. 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.960 No, I feel like you need another energy there to anchor you. 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.599 So I want to do it with someone who's had a bit of experience. 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.440 But yeah, it would be cool to have a little Yeah. 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.679 I mean, I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want you to do it with just me because I've only really done it the ones. 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:36.639 I would want a someone who's seasoned of us, yeah, who's also very good with that protection as well. 00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:41.760 Wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't trust just the time trust just the two of us. 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.519 They're the Ouija board honest. 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:45.599 Yeah, we don't bring insight home with us. 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.280 Yeah, I ain't got I ain't got I've not got the time for that shit. 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.079 Do you know what I mean? 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:54.400 Unless I want to bring a helpful spirit home with me that can, you know, clean whilst I'm out. 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:55.599 That'll be awesome. 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:56.320 Yeah, no. 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:56.960 Cool. 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.760 But what about you recently did a clearing. 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.679 Do you want to talk about that? 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.679 Yeah, that was an interesting one. 00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:10.239 So this I went round to a friend's house, and the first time I went round, we were very aware that there was a male spirit in her bedroom. 00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.880 But at the time her landlord was still living there, so there was another bedroom that we didn't have access to. 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:23.599 And after we'd sort of connected in with this male figure, we were then talking to the landlord and the neighbour, and they were like, Oh, that's interesting, because we've always picked up on a female energy. 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:25.199 And I was like, Okay. 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.239 And then the landlord moved out and we investigated the room that he had previously been in. 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.880 And straight away I was like, Oh yeah, no, there is a female energy. 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:33.119 Yeah. 00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.119 But they both reside in different bedrooms. 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:42.559 And we spent a bit of time sort of connecting in with that room and the energy in there, and there was the two back corners of the room were really heavy. 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:43.440 Yeah. 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:53.760 But we just sort of sat there for a minute and like I didn't do anything that day, and I went home and I sort of sat with it because I was like, Well, what's the relationship between the male and the female spirit? 00:50:53.840 --> 00:51:02.159 And clear as day, it came through because when we'd spoken to the male, he said that he carried a lot of like frustration and sadness. 00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:13.360 And the reason that he had struggled to sort of move over is because he felt like he spent his whole life doing everything he could to support his village, his community, and to do good things for other people. 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:18.000 And then when it came to the point in his life where he needed support, nobody was there. 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:27.440 Yeah, and there was this real like sadness, and then I got this real heaviness in my chest, and I was like, Oh, did you die of a heart attack? 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:35.599 And he showed me, and I could see exactly where the bed would have been in the room, and I could almost picture him laying in the bed, and I got a lot of information come through on him. 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.400 But then I was trying to make this piece together with this woman. 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:46.159 Um, and what came through really, really clear for me was what he was referring to when he said no one was there for me at the end of my life. 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:55.599 Like was actually his wife, or I don't know if they were married, but they were in a relationship, they were a couple, they might not I don't think they were married is what came through. 00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:02.719 But basically, she got ill and they spent their whole life, yeah, supporting everyone else, and in the time that they needed it, nobody was there. 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:08.239 And I got the sense because I spirit likes to sort of step into my body and make me feel what they're feeling. 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.480 I went really confused and disorientated. 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.679 My vision started to go, and it felt like I had dementia or Alzheimer's. 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.239 Oh gosh. 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:28.400 So I had the feeling that yeah, she slowly declined over years, and they were both just carrying this sort of like grief and heaviness and frustration and sort of being let down by people, and that's what was stopping them from being able to transition over. 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:52.400 But I was like, it's funny how you two are coming through in the same story, but I picked up on both their energies very separately, and then I was like, I have a feeling they're looking for each other, and as I said that, all of the hairs on my skin like stood up, and I was like, I think I'm onto something here, and I was like, You're both looking around the house for each other, and you're never gonna find each

other because it's almost like you're existing on separate timelines. 00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:55.840 Well, and as I said that, the dowsing rods went mental. 00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:01.760 Even my friend got it, and we both nearly like we were both like welling up, nearly crying, and I was like, Yeah, I've I've hit something here. 00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:07.360 And I was like, So I had to spend time with them both and sort of go, it's really, really crap what happened to you. 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.599 And I'm really sorry that nobody was there for you. 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:16.639 I spent some time just witnessing them, just giving them that love, and then explaining that actually like what they both wanted was to be reunited. 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:17.039 Yeah. 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.480 And in order for that to happen, they needed to let go of this physical route. 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:21.280 They needed to let go. 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:22.400 Some shamanic drumming. 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.119 My friend did some energy clearing, we opened up the window, and we've not felt anything in the house since. 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:27.599 Wow. 00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.920 So sad as at the same time. 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:30.639 Yeah. 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.400 Two spirits looking for each other in the same house. 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:36.719 Yeah. 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.159 They can't they can't find each other because they want to separate. 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:47.199 Because what I got was that he passed first, and then he passed knowing that he was worried about her and that no one was there to care. 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:53.199 So it's like his spirit sort of lingered round to keep a watch of her, but then she passed. 00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:59.039 Neither of them passed over fully, yeah, and they both just got stuck but in slightly differing. 00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:10.880 So it was, but yeah, that's the first time I've any ever done any like clearing and helping people move on, but it was just like the emotional responses that were coming through my body that I knew weren't my own. 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.719 And in all honesty, like we did declearing and I wasn't expecting it to work. 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:23.519 I was expecting to maybe have to come back and visit this a few times, but yeah, I suppose with my friends she's like, I I haven't had anything in the house since, and like we've gone back around the house. 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.559 I'm like, I can't feel like the energy is like lifted now, doesn't feel heavy anymore. 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:35.519 So it's giving me a bit of peace to think maybe yeah, they they've moved on and they're together now and then a happy afterlife. 00:54:35.599 --> 00:55:04.639 But but yeah, this is I think it's so funny because I grew up really fearful of ghosts, not wanting to dive into this realm because I was scared of it because you hear all of the demonic and like evil spirits, you hear all the bad side of it, but actually I think there's a real power in educating people on ghosts and how people's spirits do linger and why, and allowing people to actually help those spirits move on. 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:10.159 Another good deed from one human to another, even if they're not here living. 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:16.320 I've always always been drawn to ghosts and paranormal and supernatural, even though I was scared of it. 00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:18.639 And no, so it was like I was glad to punish them. 00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:39.039 I was like, it was gonna terrify me, but I was always that weird kid at school in the library's tiny little like haunted paranormal section, just looking like at pictures in books of you know, haunted places or people who have like had that more spontaneous human combustion that used to terrify me, but I'd still go and look at pictures of like a leg that was left over in some ash by the fireplace. 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.039 And then could I sleep at night? 00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:41.519 No. 00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.159 But in the daytime, it's fine, nothing happens in the day. 00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.199 Yeah, so yeah, scared of it, but always drawn. 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:49.599 Always drawn to it, which is weird. 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:50.159 Yeah. 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.280 Where would you like to ghost hunt next in Cornwall? 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:55.280 So I mentioned about the highwaymen in. 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:55.840 We actually did. 00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.280 Well, that's Dartmoor. 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.800 There's a couple of pubs on the Dartmoor that I do want to go to. 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.480 I the one you said in Launston. 00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.119 What would I not be interested to go there? 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.199 No, I just it slipped my mind now. 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:08.000 I don't know. 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.639 I'm more pubs, like hotels. 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:14.320 I don't think I will ever be ghost hunting at Bobman Gail. 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:15.280 No, there's too many. 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.599 There's too much dark energy, especially for people that have witch lineage. 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:20.320 Yes. 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.159 Just yeah, everything in my I just didn't feel safer. 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:29.280 Um yeah, anything with light, light, lighter energy. 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:30.719 Nothing too sinister. 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:32.000 You mentioned clubs. 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:33.840 There's a pub outside of Lawnston. 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.559 So there's a there's a village called Tregadillot, which is outside of Lawnston. 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.559 And there's a pub there called the Elliott Arms. 00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:41.679 Great wicked food, love it. 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:43.039 Haunted, really haunted. 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.840 Haunted by a few ghosts, I think. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.800 I

think that the bar is haunted by a little girl. 00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:56.960 And she'll come up and like, if you're sitting at the bar, she'll kind of like be by your bar stool or like try and hold your hand or like tug on your coat to get your attention. 00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:02.880 And then Pixie, who I had on the podcast a year ago, she was on the Onico Witch episode. 00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:16.000 Because she, you know, does ghost hunts and she's you know had experiences, and she went to the Elliot Arms with her with her paranormal group to do sort of an after-closing ghost hunt, and she sort of full-bodied apparition of a Victorian policeman. 00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:16.880 Wow. 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:18.320 Yeah, watching them. 00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:21.119 So there's like there's like a partition when you go in. 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:31.039 There's like lots of different rooms, and there's a partition, and one of the partitions has like um uh it has glass in it, like that mottled bold. 00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.159 It's not completely transparent, it's quite opaque glass. 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:34.639 Yeah. 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.840 But you could still make out people through the glass. 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:43.920 And she said that um they were all sat at this table and she looked up at where this partition was and she saw this Victorian policeman. 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.079 She looked away, she looked back, he was still there. 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:50.400 She looked away, she looked back, he was still there, and he was just curiously watching them all ghost her. 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:55.280 Like she didn't feel any sort of hostility or just he was just very curious. 00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:55.679 Yeah. 00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:57.760 Okay, I'll add that one to my lips as well. 00:57:58.400 --> 00:57:58.719 Yeah. 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.239 There's Rilla Mill. 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:01.760 Yeah, you've mentioned that before. 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.239 Yeah, we got nothing when we were at Rilla Mill. 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:10.960 It's always dis this is a hard thing, like, because you have to walk in with no expectations, but then you do get disappointed when nothing happens. 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.559 I didn't get terrified. 00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:14.880 Oh, I'm gonna sleep really well tonight. 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:21.360 I mean, the thing I've learned is I don't mind doing ghost hunts, but I don't think I will be staying overnight anywhere again. 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.360 Like, I just wanted to go home to my own bed. 00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:27.840 I was just lying there the whole night terrified to close my eyes in case something grabs my foot. 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:28.320 Yeah. 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:35.840 So this I this is why I tuck my quilt and my top sheet at the inside the bottom of the mattress by the footwell. 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.920 So nothing can hot, and that had this really thick duvet. 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:46.559 And I was trying to do that thing where like, yeah, I was trying to cover like every inch of skin with the duvet, but then I was also roasting. 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:46.800 Yeah. 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:48.239 So I was like, I can't. 00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:49.360 That's what they wanted. 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:50.639 That's that's what they wanted you. 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.280 They wanted they were like, let's sweat her out, guys. 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:53.840 Yeah. 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.199 Our friends were like, oh, we took the duvet out and just slept in the cover. 00:58:57.280 --> 00:58:58.880 I was like, that would have yeah, that was sensible. 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:13.280 Should have thought that Yeah, there's so many other there are I mean, I think one of the beautiful things about Cornwall is yeah, like you said, the land, there's just it's I mean, the whole of the UK, but I think particularly down here, the land is um full of ghosts. 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.719 The ghosts and spirits and mystical magical things. 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:18.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:23.679 Do you do you believe around this time of year that the paranormal activity does ramp up? 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.840 Or do you feel it a little bit more? 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:37.920 Interesting, because uh we were I was preparing for our Salmon workshop that's coming up, and I was doing some research into this because actually there's people that argue that the veil doesn't think that it's coming in. 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.960 Um that actually that was more of like a modern big sort of conception that came in. 00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:52.000 Um I think the veil I don't know if it's language is a hard one here. 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:57.039 I definitely think that there is a heightened intuition and sensitivity. 00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:03.599 I think Yeah, let's call it the thing of the veil, because things do seem to slip through more. 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:12.400 Do you think you'd be doing this as a collective unconscious, especially with how we are at Halloween that have have been how in the last sort of you know 200 years or so? 01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:25.760 You know, it's always been celebrated as you would you would carve a pumpkin to keep the spirits away on all Halloween's Eve, and you would you know you would dress up so the spirits wouldn't know that, you know, so the spirits couldn't take your soul, you'd dress up as something scary to scare the spirits. 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:33.119 So it was that thing of because it's like we were saying throughout all of this, we were kind of saying like ghosts come up more of the evening. 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:39.519 So like the sun, that solar energy kind of helps to protect us and like keep things warded off. 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.880 So when the sun goes down, you're preliminary betwixt. 01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:56.800 So it's like, is it because we're kind

of entering that darker seasons of the year, like the nights are now drawing in, and because the night's falling earlier that we then have more time in darkness to allow things to come through? 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:02.239 Um, it's a really interesting one in terms of like, yeah, is it an actual like scientific thing? 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:06.719 Does something actually physically change, or is it just our like collective consciousness? 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:08.159 Is it just tradition? 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.079 But there is definitely yeah, an energy this time of year, yeah, for sure. 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.800 Is our witches movie is it's a big one for us? 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:15.679 It is, yeah. 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.800 And we wait all year for it and then it's gone like that. 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:21.840 So yeah, yeah. 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.079 Have you got any other anything else? 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:26.719 Any of the ghosty ghost stories at all? 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:35.199 Um, White Lady of Roche Ro Roche Roche Roche Roche, see, but treating her like an outlaw, or he was like unlawful. 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:35.519 Okay. 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:45.440 Um, and basically she found out that the soldiers had killed her lover and she couldn't cope with that, and she threw herself off the rocks of Roch Rock. 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:52.800 And you can still hear her well, not hear her, apparently you see a glowing figure kind of going across the rocks down there. 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.000 You can still see her. 01:01:54.480 --> 01:02:05.280 So a ruined 15th century chapel set high among this rocky outcrop is reputed to be haunted by a ghost of a man who sometimes stares angrily from his lofty perch. 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:11.280 Certainly many visitors to the strange squat have reported seeing a shadowy figure moving along the rocks. 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:23.519 At first they thought a real person is up there casting a shadow, then they have realized that the shadow can be seen from different positions and from different directions, and that it resembles a men, man bent over and hurrying about the rocks. 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:31.360 Some people say the ghost is that of a minor, others say that he was a leper, and others again, since this is Cornwall, that he was a smuggler. 01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:37.920 A few visitors to this isolated place have remarked upon strange sounds they have heard apparently emanating from the chapel ruin. 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:45.840 A correspondent from Warminster has told me that we have her experience with a boyfriend in the days when visitors were allowed to risk life and limb on the rocks. 01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:52.000 The couple had discovered a place some years previously, and Mark, her boyfriend, loved it because it was so climbable and risky. 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:58.800 My informant Nicola tells me she was less keen and it always felt rather cold and deceitfully unsafe. 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:04.800 On this occasion they were they'd both climbed the first ladder and looking around, Mark decided he was going to go higher. 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.559 Nicola felt cold and called to Mark and said that she was going back to the car. 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:12.079 He replied and that he would be down in a few moments. 01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:16.880 After waiting some ten minutes in the car, Nicola thought she'd take a photograph of Mark on the rock. 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:20.639 She saw a figure in the window, so she took a couple of snaps and then waved. 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:26.400 There was no response to her wave, and then she saw Mark on top of the rock waving. 01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:31.280 She took another photograph and looked back to the window where the silhouette figure was still visible. 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:36.559 She soon realized it could not be a person because there was no flooring or ceiling behind the window. 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:44.880 She decided to join Mark, hoping he would tell her that there was someone else up there, but she felt a sudden and severe coldness, and she just could not climb the rock. 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.679 She called to Mark and he hurried back to the car. 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:51.199 When Mark joined her, he said that there had not been anyone else on the rock. 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:56.719 When the film was taken to be developed, Nicola discovered that each of the three shots of the Roche were blank. 01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:00.960 The camera was a basic one without a lens cap and so on. 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:02.800 So there's no reason why that should be. 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.960 All the preceding shots were fine and the subsequent shots that were taken were correct. 01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:11.760 So basically every picture that she tried to take off this figure just like came out completely blank. 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:13.760 Because that's a really common thing, isn't it? 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:20.079 That like it's just like, yeah, we aren't there's a lot of restrictions around us actually being able to capture and almost like evidence it. 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.400 That like overlap where science can't prove this sort of stuff. 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:37.360 But that's really interesting because when I originally read up on this story, it was called the White Lady of Roche Rock, and it talks about the priest's daughter, because I think that's the story that they actually they have it advertised in Bodman Jail. 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:38.880 That's one of the stories that's there. 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:46.000 So it's really interesting that actually there's dispution between whether it's a female or a male, because some people very clearly say a man. 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:50.719 But I've definitely read I've definitely read accounts of it being a female. 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.239 So have you been there? 01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:53.440 No, I've not.

01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:54.239 I've not. 01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:03.519 I would like to go, but it's just looking at it in pictures, I get a very I get a very eerie, desolate energy from it. 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:07.039 I'm gonna have to pull up an image now because I'm I need to let it refresh my brain. 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:15.199 I interviewed um a lady Nick Alvey, and she's she does folkloric and um she she loves going there. 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:19.360 She finds the the land fascinating and you're right though, even looking at it through images. 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.480 It's very sort of yeah, desolate and eerie and what an incredible place though. 01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.480 It gives very similar to um have you been to Brentor Church? 01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:30.400 I love Brentor, it's amazing. 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:31.679 That's an interesting one actually. 01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.079 Maybe that's one we'll have to visit. 01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:35.519 Yeah. 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.280 But yeah, I like the fact that people can't agree on whether it's a man or a woman. 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:42.159 Like you said, maybe maybe there's Yeah. 01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:42.800 Yeah. 01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:49.360 Like like like the clearing you did, there were two spirits there on two different timelines, so they're not aware of each other. 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:50.880 Just interesting. 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:58.239 Well, thank you so much for joining me and sharing some spooky stories for Halloween. 01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:59.760 And um yeah, I hope. 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.159 I hope my listeners enjoyed being a bit scared. 01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:03.519 A secret tonight, guys. 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:04.559 Yeah, don't have nightmares. 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.360 What was it, Daniel Roberts who says, don't have nightmares? 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:09.440 Oh Jenna, thank you so much. 01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:10.480 Um thank you. 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.920 I will put a link to Cornish Alchemy in the show notes as well. 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:18.159 Check out our and your alchemy, your alchemy works as well. 01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:23.199 People want to get in contact with you for a reading or an air some energy work. 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.360 How can they how can they do that? 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.679 All of my social media is jen.alchemywitch. 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:40.480 So you can contact me on Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, TikTok, um, or you can email Jen at the alch uh jen.alchemywitch at gmail.com. 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:41.760 Perfect. 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:42.320 All right. 01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:43.840 Well, um, I'll see you on Saturday. 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:44.559 Take shock. 01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:45.840 Hi everybody! Love you. 01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:47.599 Halloween Halloween. 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:59.599 I hope you all enjoyed listening to this special Halloween episode with Jenna and I. 01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:03.760 I have linked all of Jenna's social media details in the show notes. 01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:11.679 So if you are interested in booking a session or reading with her as the Alchemy Witch, you can find all of her details in there. 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:16.159 I've also got and linked our Cornish Alchemy project in the show notes as well. 01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:21.119 So our Instagram page, along with the events page on where we shall be holding our workshops. 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:28.880 Our next available event will be our Your Tide workshop on the 19th of December, as our Sawan workshop on Saturday has sold out. 01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:40.320 So if you are interested in seeing what sort of workshops we're going to be bringing and the things we're going to be doing, then please keep an eye out on our page and on the studio's website. 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:50.960 Okay, so let's look at our which weekly events continuing into Friday, Saturday, and Sunday for this Halloween. 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:53.840 So on Friday, October the 30th. 01:07:54.000 --> 01:08:04.719 If you missed a history of witchcraft, the lecture by Keith Wallace in Lisgard, he will be at the Interbodmin venue in Cornwall on Friday at 7.30pm. 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:10.159 So it will be a talk into Cornish charms, curses, and local witchcraft history. 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:14.559 A pop-up apothecary will be held at the old library in Bodman. 01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:25.760 The time will be from 10.30am and it will be an indoor family-friendly magical Halloween/slash apothecary gathering where you can make herbal tinctures and treats. 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:30.079 Also at Bodman Jail, there will be an afterdark paranormal investigation. 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.039 This will be from 8 pm at Bodman Jail. 01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:40.319 It is a semi-guided nighttime paranormal investigation inside the historic haunted museum, and this is for adults only. 01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:46.960 Then looking at Saturday, the 31st of October, the dark gathering is being held in Tintagil. 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.119 This is going to be the last dark gathering. 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.479 There won't be one held next year or for the foreseeable future. 01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:58.159 Maybe things might change, but if you haven't been and you really want to go, this is your last chance to get there. 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.920 So it starts at 2 pm and runs until around 8 pm. 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:06.640 You can park at the Mayfair Car Park, which is a central car park in Tintagil. 01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:10.159 And it is a festival that acts an event between worlds. 01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:16.239 So it combines English, Cornish, and Welsh folklore and customs to celebrate those ancestral connections. 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:22.000 And then finally, on Sunday, November the 1st, there will be a current and tide workshop. 01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:26.159 So it will be a day of working with the oldest currents of water magic. 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:30.239 That is at 10am, and the venue is at the Millpool Centre in Lou. 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:37.520 So it's a specialised spiritual and ritual workshop focused on water magic, mysticism, and the occult. 01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:44.079 And all of the links to these switch weekly events I have linked for you in the show notes. 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:48.159 That is everything I have for you for this episode. 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:52.880 Thank you so much for listening to the Cornish Witch Podcast. 01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:59.760 This podcast is an independent personal project created outside of my professional life. 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:17.359 It exists as a space for conversation with witches, spiritual practitioners, and those walking their own paths, sharing lived practice, ritual, experience, and folklore often rooted here in Cornwall and the land itself. 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:26.720 If you value these conversations and would like to support the continuation of the podcast, there is a voluntary link in the show notes. 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:31.760 Listening will always remain free and there is no expectation to contribute. 01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:39.359 Whether you support here, listen quietly, or carry these stories onward by sharing them with others, thank you. 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:43.920 Your presence honours the craft and keeps these tellings alive. 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:48.079 May these stories find you when they are meant to. 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.560 And until next time, may the path rise to meet you.