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There we go. Are we working? It's, we're up and running.
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It has been a while. So we had to, uh, there's a little bit rusty.
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There's a little bit rusty. There's a little bit of a hiccup to get the audio recording going.
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We did a test. We did a test audio and that worked out fine.
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I was just spitting truth bombs.
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That's not going that far. Just spitting facts and podcasts,
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but we are so thrilled to be back.
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It of course you know it's been very difficult
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for us to be away yeah but that's just
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life you know yeah that's life it's life it
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is what it is i was sick ronnie is sick we're in very close quarters so we're
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probably just passing it back and forth to each other that's all right yep we
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share a mic we share a microphone here on the biggie and ronnie show done podcasts
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before where everybody has their own mic.
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I've done podcasts before where we're all in different cities.
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You know, and this is just another one of those aspects of, like,
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we just try to keep it simple.
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You know, we try to keep it simple. I'm simple. Ronnie is simple.
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Until someone sponsors us. Yeah.
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Then we can take it to the next level. Well, and there are certain things, too.
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Like, you know, I remember in the past setting up, like, a multi-microphone system.
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Right. And we were dealing with something before we came on the air,
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where I was like, we couldn't figure something out.
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You know, it was like Zoolander where we were slapping the computer.
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But it's like, finally, after about three minutes, they're like,
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just Google it. Because Google has answers for everything.
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Googled it, got the answer immediately. And that's what it would be with the,
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you know, setting up a second mic.
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You know, I don't remember, but it'll be a 15 second Google session.
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Yep. Uh, and, and then we'll have it. And then we can sit at least like on opposite
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sides of the table instead of sharing a corner. And we don't have to leave our houses.
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We would, I mean, we, so much time for activities.
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So, of course, you know, Tigers baseball is technically back,
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you know, spring training, got some games under their belts.
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So we'll get to that, obviously, in the third session, you know, here.
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But we just, you know, the last couple shows, we just kind of do what we want.
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But we follow a pretty, you know, basic structure.
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We're going to be opening up a pack of baseball cards. You heard.
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Ronnie's got some, is it 2025 that you got there? It's 2025. In series one.
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That's exciting. Major League Baseball. Can I squeeze the pack?
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It's a jumbo pack. It is a jumbo pack. A jumbo pack out of the hobby.
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Yeah. Doesn't feel like anything thick in there, which I usually say is a good thing.
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Usually, I don't think there's anything thick in the 2025s. Yeah,
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you know, I even, I pulled that numbered, I pulled that numbered, who was it, Devers?
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Yep. And it was a relic card, and I didn't even know that I had pulled a relic card.
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No, it's crazy. Like these new relics are super thin now.
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Well, it's probably because of the freaking, the fanatics jerseys that are paper
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thin. You know, that's a good point.
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That's a good point. But it's funny too. People used to get mad at people in
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stores if they would like squeeze the packs because they were looking for relics.
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If I'm squeezing a pack and I feel a thick card, I'm putting it back.
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I'm like, I'm searching. I don't want it. I don't want those freaking relics.
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Most of them are like three bucks. Even if you get a star.
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Right. You know, we pulled, again, we say, we've been doing a whatnot show.
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Yes. We've been doing a whatnot show, RG Collier 11, right? 10. 10.
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RG Collier 10. It's not my name, so I don't remember it, you know?
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But we've run a couple shows. It's been a lot of fun.
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I had a point there. Oh, we talk about on that how we both really love the 2024 holiday cards.
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But like, even within that, you pulled like Julio Rodriguez relic. That's like a $2 card.
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But you know, you pull a Julio Rodriguez with the hidden elf or the hidden snowman.
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Now you got yourself a card. Yeah. Yeah. Five, 10 bucks.
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I've been telling my kid for ages, take better care of your cards.
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You know, you got
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to take better care of your cards. And of course they're,
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they're falling down cracks and getting knocked off tables. And And,
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you know, we have cards everywhere, but myself, personally, I take really good care of them. Right.
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But I knew, you know, he had some cards that he wasn't keeping a really good
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eye on. And I finally made him pick them up, and guess what was in there?
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What? Hidden Elf Shohei Otani. Ah! You know? It's like, come on, kid.
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So he was like, well, that's my card. I'm like, I could have at any point picked
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it up off the floor, and you would have had no idea. Yeah.
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So, I let him trade, you know. Usually, I make sure he gets...
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By far the better end of the raid. In this instance, I was like, mm-mm.
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I said, you pick a card or two that you want, and I'm taking that Shohei,
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and I sold it already, you know, 15 bucks. You did? Mm-hmm.
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I have a stream? No, I put that one on eBay. Okay. Yeah.
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Ronnie is fully invested in whatnot. I am. And I think it is.
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It's the platform of the future.
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I'm just so embedded in both Tom C and eBay that, and you know,
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we, we lament that our whatnot, we're not quite to where we can sell like big money cards.
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Right. And just send it out for $2. Yeah.
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So, you know, I'm willing to, I'm willing to sell a $15 card for four.
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Right. Just to get exposure, you know, but some of the cards that I still,
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and I would have moved the Shohei
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on whatnot for sure, but I knew I could sell it same day on eBay too.
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But yeah, I think eventually everything that's on eBay and check out my cards will come back to me.
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And once we get more comfortable with the store and once we get more comfortable
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with starting bids as comps and things like that, but we also need more people in our streams.
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So, you know, we've got probably 150 followers right now. 150 followers.
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Our room usually, like a full room for us is like 20, 25.
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Yep. Standard is right around 10 to 12. Yep. We need more than that to start
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throwing up our big money cards. Yeah.
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But, you know, with the podcast, you know, this was sort of just something.
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We're like, hey, we like talking about sports. Let's do a podcast. So we did.
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I'm always buying cards. Ronnie is really buying cards.
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He kind of picked up right where I left off. I was in a really hot and heavy
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through about Christmas.
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And then I kind of looked at what I had spent versus my return and it didn't
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dissuade me or anything. I just said, okay, I need to take a little bit of break, catch up.
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You know, my son benefits a ton from the baseball cards.
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I was like, I need to spend a little bit of this discretionary income on my daughter.
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So just been trying to balance things out. Plus, I've got a lot of cards that
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I had put into grading and things like that where, you know,
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now instead of buying, I'm actually sort of reaping the benefits of previous purchases.
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So I'm ready to open some cards. You're ready to open up some cards.
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Yeah, it is. Now, the AI is just going to edit that out. I still love it, though. Yeah.
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Such an easy, easy open for the, you know, you and my son, you just,
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you love a nice, easy open pack.
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Should we sweat the nice card? Don't sweat the technique.
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Or just go through them all. Yeah, let's just kind of power through it.
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Let's just go through them. Just peeking. Randy's peeking.
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All right, we got Justin Henry Malloy on the rookie card. Jay Hen.
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He's a stud. Yeah, Tanner Beebe from the guards. Didn't we sign him?
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No, we didn't. No? It was Alex Cobb. I thought we signed someone else,
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too. I'm not saying you're wrong. No, I don't think we got B.B. Okay.
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I knew we got Cobb. Don't get me wrong. O'Neal Cruz.
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O'Neal Cruz, all right. Pirates.
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Hurston Waldrop. Who? Rookie Card. Braves.
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Jake Cave for the Rockies. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Michael King of the Padres.
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Rockin' that absolutely gorgeous teal and pink. Yep. And this is the last season
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for that. So I don't know why.
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That should, I would almost want that to be there every day.
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That's probably my favorite uniform in all of sports. Exactly.
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I'll probably go looking for some relic cards that have those colors in it. Yeah.
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And I've always, I want a Padres hat and I've always wanted like the old school one. Yeah.
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But heck, this might be the hat to get to do the Padres thing.
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I always felt like you're allowed a Padres hat. I've said it before,
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because the Tigers beat them in the World Series.
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So it's like you can commemorate the World Series, but also,
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like, your team is still the daddy. So you can rock that hat.
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What else you got there, fella? Orovis Martinez, the Blue Jays,
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the rookie card. Fun. Fun.
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Colt Keith. I'm the rookie cop. The Colton Keith? The new first baseman for the Detroit Tigers?
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That's actually a nice shirt. I love rookie cup cards, especially like,
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I mean, way back in the day with like your 1962, like your Billy Williams around Santo rookie cups.
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Not every rookie gets a rookie cup card. I think people don't realize that.
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So you have to earn it and good for Colt Keith. Matt Chapman, other giants.
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Matt Chapman. He's a great player.
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Carlos Navarez, rookie. You can shove it. Yankees suck.
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This one is a, oh, National League leaders and wins.
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Three players. Can you name the three players that won? With most wins? Yep.
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In the National League? Yep. Chris Sale. Yep.
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What team is the next one? Phillies. No. Then the Cubs.
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Shota Imanaga. Yep. Phillies was Zach Wheeler. Zach Wheeler.
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Number two. I did all right. I did all right for not giving a crap about the
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National League. Ronald Acuna Jr.
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Stud. Have a lot of these. I buy into a lot of braids. Yep. Yeah.
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I always get the braids somehow in a randomization. My son is always like,
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every time he pulls it, he's like, Ronald Acuna.
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I'm like Acuna every time. Like tuna. Exactly. Rice Hoskins.
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One of the brewers. Reese Hoskins.
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Corey Seager. Sniff right into
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the microphone if you can I will next time Hopefully AI takes that out,
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Corey Seager Very nice This is a 40 card pack by the way Yeah this is a big
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Jumbos are big But sometimes it's just fun to hear your favorite player's name
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This is a National League San Diego Padres This is after a walk-off win It looks
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like it's a team card It's a big celebration.
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Matt Schumann The Athletics
the
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uh sacramento athletics for now athletics games
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and tampa bay games are gonna be so wild yeah i
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was watching when i was watching the tigers play the yankees in
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the uh in spring training i was like oh my gosh that that field has no foul
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territory no foul territory there's like three feet of it down the through the
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infield and then like six inches in the outfield it's bonkers. Those would be nuts.
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Jake Berger out of the Marlins. Jake Berger?
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David Festa rookie card.
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It's the Minnesota Twins. Lame. Ooh, yeah. He's hurt too.
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Uh-oh. Matt Veerling. Matt Veerling. We're going to talk about Matt Veerling
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in the third and final segment.
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A couple other Tigers who are down and out.
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Lamonte Wade Jr. Great name.
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I can hear the rain outside. Nope. I can hear that.
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Ronnie's got the old school sickness. He's boiling water on the stove.
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Just going to get some moisture in the air. I dig it.
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Zach D'Azenzo. Rookie God. Astros. Astros.
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Seth Brown out of the A's.
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Nick Gordon. Marlins. Yeah. Oh, Marlins, they just did like team report cards, right?
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I think the Marlins were like the favorite place for people to play.
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I thought that was absurd.
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Who wants to play there?
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Not me. We got a call to the hall, Babe Ruth. The Babe Ruth?
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Yeah. George Herman Ruth.
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Cool. No number or anything in there? No number. Still cool? Mm-hmm.
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Brandon Lowe out of the Tampa Bay Rays. Brandon Lowe. He's a baller.
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That's a ball player right there.
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Rhett Lauder of the rookie cut. I think people are pretty high on him.
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Rhett Lauder is going to be a stud. People are chasing him left and right.
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Good for him. Yeah.
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Chase him and grab him by his ponytail.
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Jared Kalenic. He just looks cool making that catch. I mean,
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look at those cleats, too. Easy peasy. What a guy, yeah.
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What a shirt. It looks like the Stars and Strikes. I dig it. I dig it, man.
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Joey Ortiz on the Bucky Cup. The Milwaukee Brewery.
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Very nice. I have like more of two of those. Did you know that the Brewer's logo is an M and a B?
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It took you me 40 years of my life to watch this video.
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I remember somebody saying to me, like, yeah, you know, kids,
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when they see the FedEx logo, all they see is the arrow. And I was like, the what?
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I was like, if you can read, you don't see the arrow. Or I can't read, you see the arrow.
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So there are some hidden logos out there.
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And, yeah, Ronnie was a lot excited one day to tell us about the MB and the
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Brewers logo. I was a barrel of the Denver way or not.
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Toronto blue Jays. Lucas.
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We got another team card here. Boom. Seattle Mariners. Why are you so mad at the Mariners?
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I always felt like the Seattle teams have always been like, cause they're on the West coast.
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You know, it's like they don't feel like the enemy.
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Cause even as a kid, you never even watch your team play them or go into bed before it starts.
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I always felt like the Mariners especially with Griffey and then like the Sonics
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with Sean Kemp like man those were those were some cool teams back in the day
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and that's cool so don't boo my Seattle Sonics or my Seattle Mariners or my
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Super Sonics yeah I miss the Sonics oh man,
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alright we got Tanner Huck yeah we got him isn't he from Grand Rapids is he?
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No No. Collinsville, Illinois. The Red Sox do have a pitcher in their organization who's from GR.
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Thought it might have been him. Jeff McNeil.
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Metropolitans. The Metropolitans. Another Nick Gordon. Hey.
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Exact same card? Exact same card. I did hear some people complaining about the,
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like, correlating with, I think that's the right word.
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That like some people were opening up the early packs of 2025 and they were
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getting like five or six of the same player.
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So we're doing okay with just two. That's two Nick Gordons. Did you tuck the
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good cards into the back? I did.
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I thought I saw you do that. I get it. Yeah, well, you're making this part long. I'm sorry.
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We're talking about the players. They need to know about the player.
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We're really just saying their name because there's so many.
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I don't want to offer too much. Taj Bradley.
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Tell us all about Taj Bradley. I'm just kidding. People were kind of hot on him too.
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It's funny. Anybody who's in the major leagues, people were high on at some point.
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Another team card. Something Eddie Reds. All right. You see Ellie in there?
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You got Ellie in it. Backwards hat. Nope.
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Celebrating. Giddy up. I like it. I'm about about it.
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Nick Lodolo, Cincinnati Reds.
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Bryson Scott. That's a cool-looking card. Yep. Second baseman.
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Nice little action piece.
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Ben Rice. It's another guy that people are high on. It's on the rookie card.
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Ben Rice can get bent and so can the rest of the Yankees. How about that?
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How about them apples? All right.
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Andres Jimenez. The Guardians. Guardians. They're going to be trouble this year.
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They are going to be trouble. Ugh, that was an awful card. Oh, no.
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This is Adele Amador on the 35th anniversary rookie card for the Rockies.
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With that 1990 Tops look.
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Yeah, that does feel kind of like a bust. No, but I don't remember if these
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are numbered on the back.
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I think it depends on the color. Yep.
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Okay, so... Ooh, what's the money card?
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Drew Romo on the, looks like a rainbow foil. It does look like a rainbow foil. Rookie card.
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All right. People high on him?
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People aren't very high. The Rockies, period. Right.
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So, back-to-back cards is a two, quote-unquote, high-dollar card. Yeah, yeah.
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It was a letdown. How was a letdown? It was a letdown. But you know what?
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We got to spend time together looking at baseball cards, talking to our friends,
00:18:23.661 --> 00:18:24.781
listening to the podcast.
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So it's not a total loss. Plus, did you buy this or did you win it?
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Actually, I did buy this one. You bought this one? Yeah.
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Well, it took a little bit of a loss for sure.
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Yeah, but... But who knows?
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Drew Romo, he might turn into the next big thing. Well, the problem,
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the thing with the jumbo packs from the Hobby Box...
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They, uh, even like the regular, you know, 14 card packs from the hobby box,
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they're the ones that are going to contain the relics, autos,
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the low numbered serial number cards.
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So, so me and the kid, we picked up three packs the other day of the 2025.
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We got two of the big, the jumbos and those are like 11 bucks each.
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Right. And then we grabbed a hanger for 16, right? that came in like the paper,
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like the cardboard packaging.
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And like the two jumbos had nothing.
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Right. And the hanger with the, in the cardboard had three or four cards.
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I was like, ah, I should have just, I'm not buying those jumbos anymore.
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I'm buying hangers. Right.
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And most people like hate hangers. Most people like hangers are the biggest bust out there.
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But, yeah, I mean, sometimes that's just what going through And this is,
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again, the point, you know Was that maybe a little boring?
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I don't think so If you're listening to this podcast, you know what we do You
00:19:49.994 --> 00:19:55.714
probably don't think so But one of our points is, like, every single person whose name we just read,
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Has their name on a bubblegum card. Exactly. You got your picture and your name on a bubblegum card.
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That matters. And I forget that sometimes even when Ronnie reads a name and I go, next.
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Like, that defeats the purpose, right? I don't want our listeners ever to get
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bored, but it is a little bit of a roll call of, like, these people have accomplished something.
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And everybody, you know, when we read off any tiger's name, we get excited.
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And we've got listeners from across, not just across the country, but around the world.
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So we have to remember that our, our Rockies fans, listeners get excited when,
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I mean, if I'm listening to this podcast and they're like, Oh,
00:20:39.083 --> 00:20:41.823
when's so Perez? I'm like, Oh my dude.
00:20:44.623 --> 00:20:48.303
So, you know, it's, it's funny, you know, there's the purpose of the show and
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we try to stick to it, try to keep it exciting and entertaining.
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But also we want to kind of be true to true to what we do and just say it is
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it's about giving these guys some name recognition and you know i don't have
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my name on a bubble gum card no i'm gonna have my picture on a bubble gum card
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i do yeah you know i technically do too but not,
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not officially licensed yeah yeah yeah i do have one that i got taken at comiskey
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park where i'm rocking a white socks jersey and a white socks batting helmet
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i was talking about my little league.
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Pictures this is what this is what bugged me about getting my
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when i was getting that picture taken i'm left-handed right and they put a bat
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in my hand and they made me hold it like i was right handed and i switched it
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and i was like no i'm left-handed and they were like no and they switched it
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back to right-handed and then on the back of the card it says hits right throws
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right and i'm I'm like, I don't.
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I mean, that's another reason to hate the White Sox, really.
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But my first Tigers game that I ever went to was actually at Tiger Stadium. So...
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There's a little bit of trivia for you. I picked out of Ronnie's,
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I went into Ronnie's box of treasured baseball cards, and I picked for him the one player, one card.
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That's why they picked the other one. Well, you know, like I said,
00:22:16.153 --> 00:22:20.033
the other one, I thought the other one was the love of my life.
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And then I saw this one, and I was like, nope, you know what, we're going on.
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Tell us a little bit about that one. So this is from the 2024 Taps Gilded Collection.
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It is a nice thick card.
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They are. A gold border. Almost looks like a picture frame.
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Then inside the picture frame is another picture. And it's of Keith Hernandez
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with the World Series trophy.
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Number 50, 47 out of 50. And it's autoed. Tell us about that auto.
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This auto is on card, and it's one of the most beautiful autos I have seen on
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any baseball card or football card, any card period.
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It's not exactly like, it's not fancy. It's not flourish.
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It's perfect penmanship. Yes. You can read every letter.
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I don't think I've ever seen an autograph before where you can read every single
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letter, first name, last name.
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And it looks just freaking terrific and for this to be 47 um and a 50 card,
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why like i mean he wrote that 50 cards that same way he had to do that a bunch,
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so yeah and he's sitting there with next to his uh world series trophy,
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i'm not sure which one because he won two yep but keith hernandez is one of
00:23:49.593 -->
00:23:58.313
those guys is he's never on my list of like the absolute most deserving players,
00:23:58.313 --> 00:24:04.793
not in the hall of fame, but he is on a lot of people's lists and I never,
00:24:05.373 --> 00:24:07.153
I don't poo poo that.
00:24:07.513 --> 00:24:12.893
Right. Right. Like if somebody has him on their list, I'm like, yeah, fair.
00:24:13.173 --> 00:24:18.773
That's a good choice. He, he really is deserving and we'll talk about his numbers a little bit.
00:24:20.080 --> 00:24:25.380
But, yeah, I mean, he has a war of 60.3, right?
00:24:25.820 --> 00:24:30.880
They're significantly lower wars in the Hall of Fame. Right.
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:37.400
Again, for perspective, Lou Whitaker, 75.1, also not in the Hall of Fame.
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:44.060
But let's just talk about some of Keith Hernandez's numbers here. His nickname is Mechs.
00:24:44.800 --> 00:24:47.920
I don't think I've ever heard Keith Hernandez referred to as Mechs.
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.820
But that's what baseball reference tells me
00:24:50.820 --> 00:24:54.080
and who am I to question baseball reference so
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60.3 war lifetime batting
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average of 296 but let's take a look at some of the times he led the league
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he led the league in runs in back-to-back years 79 and 80 so 79 he had 116 runs
00:25:11.100 --> 00:25:14.640
1980 he had 111 That led the league.
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He led the league in doubles in 79 with 48.
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He led the league in walks in 86, one of his World Series years.
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94 walks in 86.
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Then here's some of the more fun stuff. 1979 batting average 344.
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That's a monster. That's a huge year. That is absolutely monster.
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And then 1980 on base
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percentage 408 led the league but the
00:25:44.120 --> 00:25:47.960
previous year his on base percentage was 417 but
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.880
that didn't win that didn't lead the league so and he was intentionally walked
00:25:51.880 --> 00:26:00.040
the most times in 1982 with 19 so he won the goal he won the mvp in 79 well
00:26:00.040 --> 00:26:07.060
earned just had a killer year with the runs and the batting average and getting over on them doubles.
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.820
That's terrific. But yeah, I just looked at this car. It's got that gold.
00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:14.580
I mean, it looks like it's made of solid gold. Right.
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And it's like darn near a quarter inch thick.
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.840
How much you think...
00:26:20.648 --> 00:26:25.368
The case for this is, like, if we were to buy a case of, like,
00:26:25.448 --> 00:26:30.548
Tats Guilden collection, like, it's a higher end.
00:26:30.768 --> 00:26:34.408
I would think so. I'm not 100% sure. I don't know.
00:26:34.688 --> 00:26:38.388
You know, there's some stuff when I'm at the hobby shop, the LCS,
00:26:38.748 --> 00:26:43.428
you know, I sometimes look in the case at, like, you know, you'll see these
00:26:43.428 --> 00:26:47.848
really high-end things like you're finest and you're cosmic and you're pristine.
00:26:47.848 --> 00:26:54.668
And then your other product where you have the retail and the hobby and the,
00:26:54.788 --> 00:26:58.408
I forget what the other one is. You know, it's all these different crazy prices.
00:26:58.708 --> 00:27:06.708
But some of these, like, super unique auto cards come in a box where you're
00:27:06.708 --> 00:27:08.748
legitimately buying one card.
00:27:08.948 --> 00:27:11.568
Right. So it's a guaranteed auto.
00:27:12.008 --> 00:27:16.348
And you're paying, like, you know, in some cases you're paying, like, 80.
00:27:16.348 --> 00:27:20.828
And in some cases you're paying like 250 but you're gonna get one autograph
00:27:20.828 --> 00:27:25.728
card and i don't know if this is one of those i don't know what the cards that
00:27:25.728 --> 00:27:28.868
come out of those boxes necessarily are.
00:27:29.948 --> 00:27:33.348
And again like if you buy this product are
00:27:33.348 --> 00:27:36.128
all the cards that thick and some of them.
00:27:36.128 --> 00:27:39.228
Are just autoed and numbered or is it.
00:27:39.228 --> 00:27:42.508
Like a standard set and then bam there's this
00:27:42.508 --> 00:27:46.448
obvious gold fat card
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i just don't know i don't know
00:27:49.168 --> 00:27:52.508
and again especially with this being like a 2024 product you
00:27:52.508 --> 00:27:55.808
know i've been i've i've toyed with modern cards
00:27:55.808 --> 00:27:59.088
for a long time right but my my life's work
00:27:59.088 --> 00:28:01.748
is vintage so i can answer a lot
00:28:01.748 --> 00:28:05.328
more questions about vintage than i can about modern
00:28:05.328 --> 00:28:08.388
cards and even though i'm pretty good at identifying modern
00:28:08.388 --> 00:28:11.408
cards it wasn't until this past year that
00:28:11.408 --> 00:28:14.848
i started like ripping open boxes and
00:28:14.848 --> 00:28:18.708
a ton of packs and things like that so but it's
00:28:18.708 --> 00:28:21.948
a beautiful card love keith five cards see
00:28:21.948 --> 00:28:25.308
okay five cards for a thousand dollars so
00:28:25.308 --> 00:28:28.208
similar to what i was talking about but at
00:28:28.208 --> 00:28:31.228
least that's not wally world okay and
00:28:31.228 --> 00:28:34.068
so this is honestly if you paid a thousand dollars to get
00:28:34.068 --> 00:28:36.948
five cards you would not be happy with the keith
00:28:36.948 --> 00:28:39.828
hernandez no so that's why i still think is the
00:28:39.828 --> 00:28:42.568
smartest thing to do with your money is to
00:28:42.568 --> 00:28:45.388
go buy the cards you want exactly you know i was
00:28:45.388 --> 00:28:49.148
at the card shop with my son and the owner lou
was
00:28:49.148 --> 00:28:52.628
walking past and there's a card that my kid has been looking at forever it's
00:28:52.628 --> 00:28:58.628
an adley rushman numbered really low number they're asking like 35 bucks for
00:28:58.628 --> 00:29:05.588
it and he had probably like 20 worth of packs in his hand and he was like Could
00:29:05.588 --> 00:29:08.728
I get this card if I put the packs back?
00:29:09.048 --> 00:29:14.108
And because the investment was so much better, even if he was going over his
00:29:14.108 --> 00:29:17.948
money, I was like, I told him yes. I was like, because I just...
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.280
I think that, you know, it's smart. You're going to get home.
00:29:22.560 --> 00:29:26.000
I mean, if you spent $35 and pulled that card.
00:29:26.280 --> 00:29:30.740
Right. That's like the luckiest you'll ever be. Right. And everything else will
00:29:30.740 --> 00:29:32.740
be trash. So just buy the card.
00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:35.920
Buy the card. And that's what I was saying to Lou too. And I said to Joe,
00:29:36.060 --> 00:29:39.240
I was like, hey, the owner came over here to open the case. You're going to have to buy it.
00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:44.060
And he didn't. He went with the packs. And guess what? He pulled nothing.
00:29:44.660 --> 00:29:48.260
Exactly. I mean, you're disappointed a little bit. Not even,
00:29:48.260 --> 00:29:51.360
like, a colored parallel that wasn't numbered.
00:29:52.560 --> 00:29:57.840
No autos, no patch, no color variant, no nothing.
00:29:58.840 --> 00:30:04.060
And, again, you know, it is fun to open. It's fun to open. So,
00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:05.440
you know, I didn't make fun of him.
00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:08.740
I didn't say, I told you so. You know, he made his choice.
00:30:09.540 --> 00:30:13.220
But, you know, I guarantee he, you know, when he looks back,
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.820
those cards are really just going to get thrown away.
00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:19.820
And said wouldn't it be nice to have a nice
00:30:19.820 --> 00:30:22.960
numbered adley rushman it would be yeah and
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.860
i would have felt better about trying to think do i have a
00:30:25.860 --> 00:30:28.960
numbered adley rushman i don't even know if i have oh i do actually
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.980
i don't think i do at this point
00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:38.520
i've got like some i think i've got some god i don't even know some refractors
00:30:38.520 --> 00:30:45.400
99 is that the pristine oh yeah that's sharp bring that over here with the mini
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:50.320
diamonds cool thanks oh no no no we like to give each other cards,
00:30:51.100 --> 00:30:57.660
not that nice of cards oh ronnie was open up we were opening up a pack of cards a blaster box,
00:30:58.377 --> 00:31:02.577
And we didn't talk about this, right? No, we haven't. We were talking.
00:31:02.737 --> 00:31:05.177
Could have made that the card. We'll do what we want.
00:31:05.497 --> 00:31:09.597
Right. Do what we want. So we were going back and forth, opening it.
00:31:09.657 --> 00:31:13.937
You know, it was his purchase. So I was like, I open them, but whoever pays for them keeps them.
00:31:14.937 --> 00:31:19.457
And, you know, I felt bad because it was a decent box, decent blaster box.
00:31:19.797 --> 00:31:25.477
But I was opening up the last pack, and it had a really killer hit.
00:31:26.137 --> 00:31:28.957
And so I was like I wasn't exactly sure how to handle it
00:31:28.957 --> 00:31:32.477
right because like I didn't want to steal his thunder I
00:31:32.477 --> 00:31:35.437
didn't want to make like too light of it I wanted I
00:31:35.437 --> 00:31:38.337
wanted to be I want to try to recreate that
00:31:38.337 --> 00:31:42.097
special feeling of opening you
00:31:42.097 --> 00:31:44.817
know getting a hit getting a big hit so I
00:31:44.817 --> 00:31:47.757
actually just I just slid it I just slid it
00:31:47.757 --> 00:31:50.797
under the pile of cards that I had and then
00:31:50.797 --> 00:31:53.897
we talked about the blaster box and there were some other cool cards
00:31:53.897 --> 00:31:56.657
and we're like oh yeah that's not bad you know
00:31:56.657 --> 00:32:00.117
that's not a bad blaster box right and ronnie's
00:32:00.117 --> 00:32:03.357
like oh i just wish i could get like that like that
00:32:03.357 --> 00:32:06.037
big hit like that chase card and i'm just sitting there
00:32:06.037 --> 00:32:09.337
smiling like an idiot and so like i
00:32:09.337 --> 00:32:12.517
don't want him i don't want him to act like he was super disappointed in
00:32:12.517 --> 00:32:15.797
the blaster box because it was it was about what you usually pull
00:32:15.797 --> 00:32:18.577
yeah but it was like a little bit slightly a little bit better even
00:32:18.577 --> 00:32:21.677
better right there are some decent cards in that i.
00:32:21.677 --> 00:32:24.717
Think we even sold on whatnot for a couple bars here and
00:32:24.717 --> 00:32:27.677
there so yep and so after after
00:32:27.677 --> 00:32:30.537
the dust had settled a little bit i i came
00:32:30.537 --> 00:32:33.197
clean and i said you know i was
00:32:33.197 --> 00:32:36.737
basically like you know i pulled something i was
00:32:36.737 --> 00:32:39.757
like what and i said you know and i explained to him basically what
00:32:39.757 --> 00:32:42.557
i just explained now i held it up to him handed
00:32:42.557 --> 00:32:47.497
it to him it's a jackson merrill like aqua
00:32:47.497 --> 00:32:55.517
sparkle number to 75 so jackson merrill coming off his rookie year i mean he's
00:32:55.517 --> 00:33:00.597
one of those last year's rookies yep people are talking about mvp in the next
00:33:00.597 --> 00:33:07.137
year or two that's how good he is so to pull a rookie card of his number to 75 that's,
00:33:07.657 --> 00:33:13.277
that's one you dream about and i sort of you know i felt bad that it was a pack that i opened.
00:33:13.977 --> 00:33:19.257
You know so i i tried i
tried to get clever with it and you know he gets to
00:33:19.257 --> 00:33:23.957
keep it at the end of the day anyway so it's that's what really matters but
00:33:23.957 --> 00:33:27.317
i thought i was just trying i tried to find a way to add a little bit of extra
00:33:27.317 --> 00:33:29.217
fun to it if you want it's up on
00:33:29.217 --> 00:33:33.577
ebay if you want it it's up on ebay he'll send you an offer for 55 five.
00:33:34.314 --> 00:33:39.714
Yep, that's the lowest I'm going. Yep. So we opened up some cards,
00:33:40.174 --> 00:33:44.174
right? We talked about basically two one-player, one card. Yep.
00:33:44.434 --> 00:33:47.694
I made you look at all my higher-end cards. We could.
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We're not going to. Join us on WhatNot to take a look at these high-end cards and save some of those.
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You know, next week if we don't have a pack, sometimes it's fun to just go through cards.
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Go through four or five. Absolutely.
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Yeah, the one player, one card. You know, I had one ready to go,
00:34:07.574 --> 00:34:10.554
too, but I was like, I knew. Once you've seen that.
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Ronnie's been purchasing, like, mad, and we're at his house,
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so I was like, why am I going to bring a card into his, you know, 400 brand-new cards?
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But I did have one ready, and I'll have it ready for next week if I need to,
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but Tigers, spring training.
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Pitchers and catchers have been there for a while. A lot of the Tigers showed
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up early, too, Even the position players. They're ready to go. Ready to run it back.
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It was, they had just an incredible, unexpected run last year.
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Got to the playoffs. Won a playoff series. Almost won a second playoff series.
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Everybody was like, oh, you got to do something big in the offseason. I kept saying, why?
00:34:53.114 --> 00:34:59.014
You did it. You put the pieces to the puzzle together in spite of A.J.
00:34:59.354 --> 00:35:05.494
Hinch. who we're ready to just kind of let bygones be bygones. Yep.
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You know, we've shared what we dislike about him.
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You know, but at a certain point, you can't really, like, you can't prove a negative, right?
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And whatever crazy, seemingly idiotic things he was doing last year,
00:35:17.534 --> 00:35:21.714
he got them to the second round of the playoffs and almost won.
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And great. I couldn't have asked for more. Exactly.
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So I'll try to give him a little bit more grace this year.
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Hopefully, you know, and injuries and things like that are going to play a role.
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So, you know, we signed 30, mid-30s starter, you know, for what,
00:35:43.028 --> 00:35:44.608
10 or 15 mil? Not that much.
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You know, that was Cobb. And a lot of people knocked that signing,
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and I was like, that's exactly what we need. Yeah.
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Now he's injured, you know. But we have got... But he was injured coming into the season.
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He wasn't ready yet. I mean, he definitely hurt himself.
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They were expecting him to be ready to go. and
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he's not so you know the other thing that i
00:36:08.968 --> 00:36:12.388
found funny too is that you know jackson
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job right his first two his first
00:36:15.128 --> 00:36:18.048
two starts people were like oh well you know that solves
00:36:18.048 --> 00:36:21.428
the rotation problem it'll be casey mize and
00:36:21.428 --> 00:36:24.448
you know they wrote him off and then his
00:36:24.448 --> 00:36:27.348
third start they're like well you can pretty much
00:36:27.348 --> 00:36:30.408
guarantee that jackson job will be the rookie of the year this
00:36:30.408 --> 00:36:33.728
year and i'm like how do these people like
00:36:33.728 --> 00:36:36.928
have jobs right you know it's like don't get
00:36:36.928 --> 00:36:40.048
and the answer is you say insane things
00:36:40.048 --> 00:36:44.288
and people click on your articles that's the whole point of what they do exactly
00:36:44.288 --> 00:36:49.508
so there's no news anymore there's just clickbait and so you try to like wrap
00:36:49.508 --> 00:36:53.868
your mind around it though and that's kind of what we try to do is you know
00:36:53.868 --> 00:36:58.928
take all the nonsense and distill it down into, like, what you need to know.
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So, like, Matt Veerling. Matt Veerling's injured, right?
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He might be ready by opening day. He probably won't be. Rotator cuff is his issue.
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Jace Young was going to be the starting third baseman anyway, right?
00:37:13.108 --> 00:37:17.908
We were trying to get Alex Bregman. Bregman did not want to play for the Tigers.
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Tigers gave him the best money, the best years. They offered him everything.
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I'm not mad at him. his numbers in Comerica Park not great.
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Probably would never have been great so once
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we don't get him they start talking about Nolan Arenado I was like cool I'd
00:37:37.168 --> 00:37:43.188
let Jace Young develop for a year or two Nolan Arenado wouldn't wave his trade
00:37:43.188 --> 00:37:49.088
clause because he said Detroit wasn't contender so now I hate Nolan Arenado screw you punk.
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Don't tell me that the Tigers aren't a contender Did you see that Stan
Tanner
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did an interview about how he was the second choice?
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I didn't see that. I seen it, but I didn't read it. I was hoping you read it.
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No, shoot. Could have given me a heads up. I'm sorry.
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I do know how to read. But the problem is we always send each other stuff.
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It's true. I just, every time.
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That's why this time I was like, you've probably seen it. I sent it to Ronnie.
00:38:18.588 --> 00:38:21.948
He's like, yeah, I just read that. He sends it to me. I'm like, I just read that too.
00:38:22.548 --> 00:38:25.988
But it is, it's so exciting when you send something and they're like,
00:38:26.128 --> 00:38:28.328
oh, cool. And you're like, oh, sweet. You haven't seen it yet.
00:38:29.390 --> 00:38:34.790
So, Matt Veerling, I mean, to me, he was kind of the anchor for the Tigers last year.
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So, it's a little bit of a bummer that he's not playing right now and that he
00:38:39.210 --> 00:38:41.550
probably won't be there for opening day.
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Parker Meadows, you know, Parker Meadows was someone who everybody had incredibly
00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:48.990
high expectations for this year.
00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:52.610
Talking about platinum gloves, talking about, I mean, you've got to win the
00:38:52.610 --> 00:38:56.710
gold glove first. But, you know, he's a platinum glove caliber outfielder.
00:38:56.990 --> 00:39:01.950
He's hitting, he's base running, everything. I mean, true five-tool player with
00:39:01.950 --> 00:39:03.790
just incredible range in the outfield.
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He's got a nerve issue in his bicep, and it's really just a wait-and-see thing. Yeah.
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The doctor said it's as likely to resolve itself in two weeks or six weeks or more.
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Right. Pretty much the nerve just has to start firing again.
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What did they say? He stretched it too far or something?
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It was something weird. I'd never heard of it. It's a little bit of a fluke
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injury. You know, you can't necessarily even say he did anything wrong or the
00:39:30.710 --> 00:39:31.810
staff did anything wrong.
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I mean, sometimes it's just bodies are a fickle thing. They can betray you a little bit.
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But again, we worry about it. Those were two pieces, huge pieces for the Tigers.
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But either one of them could be back within, if not opening day,
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you know, within the first week.
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So it's not, it's not something where we're ready to write them off or,
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you know, say the Tigers season is a bust or anything silly like that,
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but it definitely sucks that they're injured and that they're not,
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especially Parker who hasn't played like a full season.
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If we could have gotten him a full spring training and then a full season,
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that would have been huge.
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But, you know, even if he's not ready for opening day, guess what?
00:40:15.541 --> 00:40:20.901
I've always said the full season for the modern MLB is like 120 games.
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You're not wrong. And I don't know how I feel about that.
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You know, it's protect your assets, get more longevity out of them.
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Or, you know, do you need to go, you know, just have them freaking pound it
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out until they, you know, have no tendons left in their knees. Right.
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You know, all that stuff. But we were talking earlier, you know,
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I keep seeing these articles and you want to love this.
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Like you want to agree, but you just have, we're too, you just have too much
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brains to let it be the case.
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We're talking about like the Tigers fleeced the Dodgers on the Jack Flaherty trade.
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It's like, it was fine. It was really, I think, an example of absolutely everybody winning.
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It's like that Jared Goll, Magic Staff retreat.
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And as much as you want to say, look at everything we got in return,
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we don't have a Super Bowl ring.
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You know, so we trade Matthew Stafford. It was a good trade.
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We got a lot of pieces that we needed.
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Stafford won a Super Bowl. Stafford won a freaking Super Bowl.
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You know, Jack Flaherty, he wanted to stay.
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We traded him to a team that he helped win the World Series.
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Granted, we got Trey Sweeney and we got, it was Lorenzo.
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Lorenzo. and that's awesome speaking of Lorenzo.
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I'm so confused by our catching situation right now. Well, the Tigers are confused
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by our catching situation too.
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Because, like, I'm so happy that Jake Rodgers is going to be the guy going in.
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But, like, Jake Rodgers might be the odd man out at some point,
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whether it's this year or next year.
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Right. And, I mean, I think that's it. I think Jake Rodgers.
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I already thought that Dylan Dingler was probably going to be a number one catcher
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by the end of the season. Yeah.
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I think he's just better offensively. And Jake Rogers, I mean,
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he's not old, but he's getting up there and he's really sort of taking on that
00:42:17.611 --> 00:42:21.191
role of being Tarek Skubal's personal catcher, you know?
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So Jake Rogers will catch every Tarek Skubal game and he did last year and then
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he can catch some other games and Dingler can play.
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And yeah one of the craziest things though is
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when you're when you're low level you know
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your your you know your class a type guys
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start turning into superstars it's not a problem right but it shuffles up what
00:42:45.871 --> 00:42:50.791
you thought your roster was gonna look like i thought i had some maronzos but
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i don't know if i have any his cards right now but i've seen some like his first
00:42:55.071 --> 00:42:56.251
Bowman's and stuff. Yeah.
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He is a skinny dude in his first Bowman's. You look at him now, he is a thick boy.
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He's like the opposite of... He's like a Victor Martinez.
00:43:05.811 --> 00:43:11.031
Jason Dominguez. Jason Dominguez was thick as... Thicker than a snicker, they say.
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But I was watching him play in the Tiger Spring training game,
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and I was like, dude was looking svelte.
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Like, he trimmed up real nice, so people are kind of down on him right now.
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Well, He has not been doing very well.
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And, I mean, in left field, too, man, he just let that ball,
00:43:28.631 --> 00:43:30.011
it just fell right next to him.
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It's a new position for him. They're like, well, that's the Tampa Bay Sun. I'm like, it's the Sun.
00:43:37.291 --> 00:43:44.391
It's a new position for him. And Al Kaline would have beat him with a wet towel
00:43:44.391 --> 00:43:46.851
after that game because his hole,
00:43:46.851 --> 00:43:52.591
he would make everybody just stare into the Sun until you catch it.
00:43:52.591 --> 00:43:56.971
You know, just as there's no excuse, there's going to be sun during the game.
00:43:57.231 --> 00:44:00.611
So catch it during practice. Like there is no excuse. Yeah.
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So, yeah. But, again, that trade for Jack Flaherty, I'm like,
00:44:04.709 --> 00:44:06.509
let's just not oversell it. Right.
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We got some good pieces back, and we have Jack Flaherty back,
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but we're paying him more money, and he got himself a World Series ring.
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So let's not laugh at the Dodgers, who, by the way, are spending
the way you're supposed to spend.
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You know, I had texted Ronnie, and it was just a visceral reaction,
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you know, And I was like, I said, oh, my God, like these the Dodgers are ruining baseball.
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You know, I'm like the Dodgers are ruining baseball. I'm so pissed because,
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you know, with all this deferred money and they're spending billions.
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And I'm like, it just isn't fair. And I didn't come to the realization on my
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own. I'd like to be able to say that I did.
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But I read an article where the guy was like, stop dogging the Dodgers.
00:44:52.509 --> 00:44:56.609
They're doing what you want your team to do. You make money.
00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:59.729
Spend money invested in your team.
00:45:00.009 --> 00:45:06.649
They're like, be mad at the idiot owners who are pocketing these hundreds of
00:45:06.649 --> 00:45:11.129
millions, if not billions and not putting a good product on the field.
00:45:11.469 --> 00:45:17.109
And I just had to like, kind of hang my head and be like, I had it completely wrong.
00:45:17.369 --> 00:45:21.209
And a lot of it is. Yeah, you're right. It is. A lot of it is deferred.
00:45:21.989 --> 00:45:26.409
I think show Hayes. It was like, he was making 2 million for like two seasons.
00:45:26.409 --> 00:45:28.829
Yeah. Then it was jumping up to $68 million.
00:45:29.269 --> 00:45:34.409
So it's not like they're deferring the whole contract than worrying about paying
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the other $600 million over a billion years.
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And I don't care what it is. If it's legal, do it. Yep.
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Do it. You know, at first glance, you might be mad. You might think it should be illegal.
00:45:47.289 --> 00:45:51.709
You're probably just mad because it's not your team. If the Dodgers are your
00:45:51.709 --> 00:45:55.689
team, you're laughing every day. Just living the good life.
00:45:56.848 --> 00:46:01.268
But, you know, I think what—I'm curious, what do you think for the Tigers,
00:46:01.428 --> 00:46:03.688
right? Do they recreate what they did last year?
00:46:03.788 --> 00:46:06.528
Do they improve on it? Or do they take a step back?
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I don't think they take a step back. I think they might be much of the same. Mm-hmm.
00:46:11.748 --> 00:46:13.248
Anjuries are determined.
00:46:15.308 --> 00:46:21.048
Riley Green's got to stay healthy. Yeah. I don't know why, like,
00:46:22.128 --> 00:46:31.668
Detroit sports has that knack for injuries, whether it's just piss-poor strength
00:46:31.668 --> 00:46:34.568
and conditioning coaches or just freak accidents.
00:46:34.808 --> 00:46:38.148
Right. I wonder that, too, often. you know
00:46:38.148 --> 00:46:41.548
it's like and then you want to say like even
00:46:41.548 --> 00:46:44.648
freak accidents like could they
00:46:44.648 --> 00:46:48.968
be prevented with a different strength and conditioning you know type some of
00:46:48.968 --> 00:46:53.048
them i think can some of them can't be like a different strength and conditioning
00:46:53.048 --> 00:46:57.488
coach isn't going to keep you from running into a wall right you know but you
00:46:57.488 --> 00:47:01.548
know could it prevent other things maybe like the small stuff for sure But, like,
00:47:02.508 --> 00:47:06.108
let's use Aiden Hutchinson as an example. Brickin' a leg.
00:47:06.928 --> 00:47:11.308
I don't – no coach. Only coach is going to prevent that is probably the head
00:47:11.308 --> 00:47:18.428
coach that says, I like your engine, but we need to harness it a little bit.
00:47:19.668 --> 00:47:26.688
And you don't need to go 100% when we know it's – Right. The ball is going to run away from you.
00:47:27.228 --> 00:47:33.708
Yep. With our pitching staff, I don't know. Like, I never seen a pitching staff
00:47:33.708 --> 00:47:35.468
go down like that before. It was weird.
00:47:35.808 --> 00:47:38.908
And now, all of a sudden, coming into this year, we have too many pitchers.
00:47:39.188 --> 00:47:42.328
How does that happen? I don't know. I mean, we did good, right?
00:47:42.328 --> 00:47:44.268
We got Flaherty back. We've got Scooble.
00:47:44.728 --> 00:47:48.928
Cobb was a good signing. He's not out for the year. No, no, no. Cobb will come back.
00:47:49.468 --> 00:47:54.588
Casey Mize, I've got high hopes for Casey Mize. Who else is in the mix?
00:47:54.848 --> 00:47:56.428
We talked about Reese Olsen, right?
00:47:57.108 --> 00:47:59.588
Jackson Jobe is for sure in the mix.
00:48:00.328 --> 00:48:06.368
I wouldn't be mad if he got beat out, right? Right. If he wins the position, give it to him.
00:48:06.648 --> 00:48:10.788
If he's the fourth or fifth best starter, bring him on.
00:48:10.948 --> 00:48:13.208
I know the other day when he had asked me if I was watching,
00:48:13.288 --> 00:48:15.508
I wasn't, like, I was out and about. Yeah.
00:48:16.008 --> 00:48:19.608
By the time I got home and turned it on, like, he was already out of the game. Yeah, exactly. Dang it.
00:48:20.268 --> 00:48:23.868
But, like, from what I've seen, like, he pitched well. He looked real good.
00:48:24.288 --> 00:48:29.348
Very good. And he probably, I mean, he's probably going to win the fifth spot. He probably should.
00:48:29.988 --> 00:48:33.108
If he got beat up, I wouldn't be mad. Well, that's the thing.
00:48:33.248 --> 00:48:37.208
Like I said, if you get beat out, that's the... But I won't be happy if he's
00:48:37.208 --> 00:48:40.968
clearly the fourth or fifth best starter, and they go, ah, we're going to start
00:48:40.968 --> 00:48:43.708
him in AAA. Which is the history of the time. I know.
00:48:44.508 --> 00:48:51.408
So I'm leery of that. Just trying to think. You know, we've got Foley's coming back, right?
00:48:51.568 --> 00:48:55.148
So we've got
our closer. Right. Yeah.
00:48:55.687 --> 00:49:00.407
A couple good guys in the bullpen. Who's going to – Jace Young.
00:49:00.547 --> 00:49:05.787
I mean, I think Jace Young is a – we should have two of the favorites for rookie of the year.
00:49:05.927 --> 00:49:09.247
If Jackson Jobe comes right out of the gate as a starting pitcher,
00:49:10.027 --> 00:49:14.587
absolutely you got to think he's – and he's the odds-on favorite right now.
00:49:15.127 --> 00:49:19.727
Jace Young is really in that spot where I think it's a good bet to place because
00:49:19.727 --> 00:49:23.167
it's like his odds are like twice as high as Jobe.
00:49:23.307 --> 00:49:26.167
Right. And I think he's just as likely to win it. I mean, you're going to be
00:49:26.167 --> 00:49:32.307
the everyday third baseman for a team that's in, hopefully, contention.
00:49:32.747 --> 00:49:40.967
I really just hope our—the only really big move I wish we would have made was a new hitting coach.
00:49:41.707 --> 00:49:44.407
But see, I'm not even mad at the hitting coach. Now that—I mean,
00:49:44.507 --> 00:49:48.007
here, you know that Javi Baez is an idiot.
00:49:48.247 --> 00:49:52.647
Right. And we learned that Spencer Torkelson is a freaking idiot.
00:49:53.187 --> 00:49:56.527
Idiot. I've only got my vocabulary only goes so deep.
00:49:57.767 --> 00:50:02.027
They've got like the best hitting machine in the majors.
00:50:02.647 --> 00:50:06.347
And he comes out there and says, boy, I don't use that. I can tell.
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I can tell. No, you can't.
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You can't tell. Maybe you could tell in college. Maybe you could tell in college
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and make that adjustment off the way the ball came off your bat or about how big you whiffed.
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There's just too many stretches of games like where we are so hot and cold,
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and a lot of times it can be cold, and we're losing games that we probably should win.
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And some of the games that we're winning, you're just way too close.
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Like, we're not, we'll get three runs in the first inning, and guess what?
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We'll go through that whole stretch in between.
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Yeah, but I think, like, hitting coaches is really tough because anyone who
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is good enough to be an incredible hitter doesn't need to come back and coach, right?
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Right. It's like I saw the Pirates picked up Daniel Vogelbach.
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Like, did you ever look at Daniel Vogelbach and go, I want that guy teaching
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my guys how to hit? But, like, I mean, I know he's not their hitting coach.
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They have a really good hitting coach. But they picked him up as,
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like, an assistant. And he's working on
the hitting and stuff.
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And it's like, that's what you get. I mean, Marcus Thames.
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Marcus Thames is one of, you know, he's with the Yankees forever.
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I think he's with Minnesota now.
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Like, Marcus Thames was, he could hit some home runs. He wasn't an all-star.
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No. He wasn't a superstar.
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You know? And so it's like, how do you decide who your hitting coach is going to be?
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You know? And I'm always torn by that. Is it some guy who's sitting,
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watched analytics his whole life and never played the game?
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Well, I told you this. Maybe. I told you this last year, though.
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I wasn't listening. My problem is when you have a hitting coach at the same
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age as a lot of your players or maybe only two years older than some of your
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oldest players, I think to me that's a problem.
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Right. Because he is not a leader.
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I don't want to see him as a leader. How do you have Mickey on your team and
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then have a 36-year-old, you know, triple-A bust as the hitting coach?
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Just don't talk to Mickey. Right. Like, I get that for sure.
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So, my two big things is, in order for us—I can't talk about your two big things on the air.
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In order for the Tigers to be better than what they were, it's health and offense.
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Can Colt Key step up and be the hitter that they think he is? Yes.
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Can Gleyber Torres hit at Comerica Park? He better.
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And can Riley Green win the batting title?
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Stay healthy, Riley Green can do anything. I think Riley Green,
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this could be the year where Riley Green goes after the batting title.
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I like what I seen last year. He did.
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He has an eye for a ball that I have not seen since Tony Gwynn. I'm going to say Mickey.
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They're very similar. Riley Green wasn't striking out because he was reaching like Javi Baez.
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I can only hear that name so many times in the day before I just shut down.
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But, I mean, I do want to see other people step out. I want to see Jace have a good year.
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I don't need him to hit 300. No, I'm going to hit 260.
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Hey, he can hit 240 with a little bit of power. I'd be happy.
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Trey Sweeney, same thing.
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Trey Sweeney can hit 220 if
he's got a good grub and steals some bases.
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Get Carpenter hitting bombs for us. We need him. Carpenter can rake. That's for sure.
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But we can't just have too many of our players batting right around 220.
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That's true. That's Trey Sweeney, and that's it. He's the one player I've got
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to reserve that for. Jake Rogers is going to be that guy, though, too.
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Jake Rogers can be better, but Dylan Dingler will have to balance that.
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I mean, I'll look more at the catcher position than, you know, individual there.
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It's like the first year in a
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while that I'm not really worried about pitching. Pitching has been fine.
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You think Tarek Skubal can repeat? I think so. I agree.
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From what I've seen a little bit of the spring training, he's fine.
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He's so freaking intense.
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He is fine. He is fine. I mean, we brought back freaking, what's his name? Chafin?
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Chafin. Yeah. I know he's in the mud, but he's going to be out.
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He'll be out for sure. He'll be up in the second week in the eighth, but he'll be back up.
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The last two years, I've been furious when we've traded him because he wants to be with us.
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His family's in Ohio.
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He's like, he keeps every offseason. He comes trucking back to Detroit.
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And, you know, he looks like that, like, redneck type of, but he's,
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you know, and he might be, but he's a smart guy.
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He's funny. you know i love he's always wearing
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he's got the girl dad shirt t-shirt that he
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wears he's got the field starter t-shirt that he wears
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like he's just a good time never mad
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at him like even if he has a bad outing you're just like yeah and he's got that
00:55:22.626 --> 00:55:26.986
sort of todd jones look to him so we're kind of used to like exactly you know
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seeing him run out there maybe get rocked a little or keep us on our toes we
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have one of the best pitching coaches too in the league guaranteed like you
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know i wasn't hot on Chris Federer early on.
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Yeah, you know, his resume wasn't really there, but then he had to prove to us that he did.
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I mean, I liked him at Michigan. Of course. I liked him when he was coaching at Michigan.
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I was hot on him then. I was like, yes. I mean, yes.
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I watch college baseball. I love college baseball. College baseball,
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it's your first chance to see.
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These prospects that are up in the major leagues. Hey, I've got one of my BFFs,
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the University of Florida. So it's like I knew Wyatt Langford before anybody knew Wyatt Langford.
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I knew Jack Caglione before anybody else knew Jack Caglione.
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You know, so, again, I don't watch a ton of the baseball, but that's,
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you know, and then he's the middle, the ding of the metal bat, too.
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It's so intense. It gives me like, it actually gives me like nails on a chalkboard. Oh, really?
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In like a good way. Maybe like kind of like when you climb the rope in gym class,
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you know, it just gives you a little funny feeling.
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I don't hate it, but it does to me. It just feels off.
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Like it's the crack of the wooden bat. But even the crack of the bat isn't number one for me.
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Number one for me is the pitch into the catches, man.
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That sound just I could fly away I could fly away on that sound you know what
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it does to me we already talked about gotta keep it clean,
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gotta keep it PG we are really right we're at 59 minutes and 50 seconds so we
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are gonna call it a show I'm Big E this is the Big E and Ronnie show Ronnie, see ya peace.