บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Your Cholesterol Numbers Could Change with One Dietary Addition — Sam Wiley on What Plant Sterols Actually Do

00:05:12.480 stream and get high cholesterol in our blood. But if plant sterols are present 57 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.879 in the right form during that digestive process, yes we can, we can 58 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:26.199 eliminate cholesterol. It reduces the absorption of cholesterol because it's runs interference. I 59 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.639 mean, I'm not much one for sports analogies, but you know, it's 60 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:39.040 it's like kind of an offensive and a defensive you know, set of teams 61 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.600 on you know, a football team, right, So it's it's it's it's 62 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:50.240 running interference and pausing the cholesterol to not be absorbed into our bloodstream. So 63 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:59.879 what's interesting about plant sterils is they're not a novel substance. They're not They're 64 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:05.000 not something that we've never eaten before, or that we science just discovered and 65 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.560 that when you know, we could you know, that's created in a lab 66 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.319 or something and the science just discovered it, and maybe we could take it 67 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.360 as this beneficial effect. Plants stare also been in the human diet for ever, 68 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:26.240 as long as we've eaten plants. Yeah, anywhere we find fats and 69 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:32.720 oils in nature that are from plants, things like olive oil, things like 70 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:40.120 avocados, we find plants sterils. Right. It's just that in the Western 71 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:47.160 diet and the what's called the standard American diet, which is the sad diet, 72 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:54.639 bad diet. In the Western diet, our intake of plant sterols is 73 00:06:54.680 --> 00:07:00.399 only about three hundred to four hundred milligrams per day. Wow. That may 74 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:05.519 be enough for some, but for many who and many of us have high 75 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:15.079 cholesterol, whether through its genetic and our liver overproduces, or whether it's from 76 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:21.600 dietary sources, may be a relatively unhealthy diet m HM for many of us, 77 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.759 that three or four hundred milligrams. It's it's below the level that's recommended 78 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.759 by groups such as the National Institute of Health mm hmm. The National Institute 79 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:39.199 of Health has a Therapeutic Lifestyle Change the TLC guidelines that say you should get 80 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:46.079 two thousand milligrams. Wow, that's a big difference than the other. Yeah, 81 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:51.519 so that's your four hundred you know, that's that's five times yeah, 82 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:58.959 our typical intake or more six times what our typical intake for most people. 83 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:05.560 And so no, that's that's a recommendation. That's not a dietary recommendation for 84 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:13.879 everybody, right, that's a dietary recommendation specifically for people who have high cholesterol. 85 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.480 Right. And you know, and it says you should get plants. 86 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:24.519 Rails from a variety of sources, including food and supplements. But typically, 87 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:30.920 you know, we when we think about sources from food, a lot of 88 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.080 people will say, well, you know, I eat a salad and I'm 89 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.960 getting lots of plants and I eat a salad. I don't know about every 90 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:46.240 day, but most every weekday prepping the salad and having it ready and it's 91 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:52.759 something great to eat for lunch. And there's so many great phat and nutrients 92 00:08:52.799 --> 00:09:00.879 in a salad that has a diverse you know, basket of different fruits, 93 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.960 not fruits, but diverse baskets of different vegetables in the salad. But the 94 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:11.080 salad doesn't have much fat. Yeah. Typically when we eat a salad, 95 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:18.000 the only source of fat in our salad is the salad dressing. And the 96 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:24.519 salad dressing is made with vegetable oil, soybean oil. Yeah, and that 97 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:31.080 typically has no plant steriles. Soybean oils, corn oils, peanut oils, 98 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.759 pick and oil. They all have plant sterils. They all the plant makes 99 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:41.519 them. It needs them to make these different phytoestrogens that the plant needs in 100 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:50.440 order to be a fully functioned plant. But the modern food industry, a 101 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:56.200 big agribusiness, it refines the oils. It's you know, the the what 102 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:01.759 consumers have come to expect is you know, what used to be called the 103 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.360 Wesson cooking oil process, right, is refined, bleached, deodorized, clear 104 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:15.120 yellow oil, you know, and that's a soybean oil or a corn oil 105 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.399 that's been you know, it's light straw yellow in color. It's perfectly crystal 106 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:26.360 clear. It's bright, and the sterols and the vitamin eat are taken out 107 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:33.519 of those oils. Right, And so we've actually been you know, not 108 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:39.960 only has you know, modern medicine and science clinical research demonstrator over the last 109 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.399 you know, seventy five years or so that plant sterols are good improving metabolic 110 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.600 health and lowering cholesterol. We've also been systematically removing them from our diet. 111 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:56.960 Yeah, it's crazy. So so most people in the US haven't

really heard 112 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.679 of plant sterols and they're not very popular, but they're widely used in other 113 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:09.120 countries. Yeah, so the UK, many different parts of Europe, Australia, 114 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.120 plant sterils are much more common, much more widely used in functional foods 115 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:22.759 such as drinks or margarines or spreads. Right. So there's a lot that's 116 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:28.480 interesting about plant cereals. And I think one of the challenges that I've always 117 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.960 had when talking to me I've sold plants sterils for a long time, Yeah, 118 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.840 is really just getting people to know what the heck are they. Yeah, 119 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.639 you know, people I think are the United States, especially like when 120 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:48.159 I went to Europe, most of the food that was in Europe, a 121 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.960 lot of our American foods were banned. They wouldn't let them into Europe because 122 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:58.759 they were so unhealthy and and and so they banned them. Yeah, Europe 123 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:05.519 has a much stricter regulatory landscape for foods and for supplements. So there's a 124 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:15.039 there's a lot of formulations that we commonly eat in the US that just you 125 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.720 you know, the products, you have the exact same product, uh, 126 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.279 you know, candies or different kinds of you know, breakfast cereals or things 127 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:28.600 that that maybe kids eat, and you have the exact same product in the 128 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.960 U S and the and in the Europe. But it's a completely different formula 129 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.720 in Europe. Regulations are just that much stricter. So I think I think 130 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:46.240 when we we see with plants cereals, is the the limited amount of the 131 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:54.519 supplements the plant sereal supplements that are on the US market typically made from g 132 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:00.480 M O corn or soy sources. So you think about the high volume soybean 133 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.320 oil that's processed in this country, and you think about the hig volume soybean 134 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:11.679 oil that we consume. But in order to make that heat stable, you 135 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:16.120 know, clear bright, you know, perfect looking soybean oil, we have 136 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.960 to take all the cereals and the vitamin E out of it. Right, 137 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:28.039 and but then the same agribusinesses that you know refine them and make soybean oils, 138 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.080 they'd be happy to sell you the plant cereals back. And it's all 139 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:37.919 from say a GMO corn source or general source. So what's what's interesting

about 140 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.759 the product that we have called cardio Smile cardiosmile liquid plant sterils. It's not 141 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:48.759 only in a liquid nanodispersion form, so it's very easy use, it's very 142 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:54.799 highly absorbable. But it's it's from it's actually made from pine trees. It's 143 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.679 made from it's made from byproducts of the of the of the wool industry. 144 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.879 Okay, So when you think about when you think about the process of of 145 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:11.360 you know, processing pine trees in order to make whether it's lumber or paper. 146 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.000 Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of tree sap and there's 147 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:20.320 a lot of fat, fats and oils that the pine tree industry can get 148 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.919 out of a tree. And it's actually a really rich source of plant steriles. 149 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:33.480 And the you know the lob lolly and long leaf pines that are grown 150 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.159 throughout the American South, those aren't those aren't gm O plants. I mean 151 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.840 those are those are just natural pine trees growing all over the you know, 152 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.720 native species growing all over the US, and yeah, they make a great 153 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:52.240 source of non GMO pine pine stereles. I think a lot of people don't 154 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.559 realize that because if you look, you know, there are a lot of 155 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:00.919 products you know, you know, like yours that are made with different certain 156 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.720 wood and you know that comes from trees, and people don't realize the rich 157 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:11.879 amount of nutrients and benefits we our bodies can get from these products. Like 158 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.159 I know with with cardio Smile, it was I felt so much better, 159 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.240 even my digestive system it is felt like it was working better now, I 160 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:26.399 know for a fact, like many many people, you can see all different 161 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.879 forms on the market, and there are some that are in jelly form, 162 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.639 but I always feel like liquid is more potent, goes right into the body, 163 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.080 and I feel like it has a better effect. Do you have any 164 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:43.720 any any uh, I guess uh opinions of your own which because they have 165 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:48.000 like they have jelly forms of plant starls and then they have you know, 166 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.399 like we like you know, cardio smile is liquid, you know. For 167 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.879 me, I feel like it's more potent. But what's your opinion on on 168 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.879 the different types that they're out of the market that you're aware of. Well, 169 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:07.320 Well, plant plant sterils having been shown in people to lower cholesterol goes 170 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.000 back all the way to the early nineteen fifties. Okay, so it's there's 171 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:22.000 there's clinical evidence goes way way back. The form of plant sterols that exists 172 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:30.240 in nature is what's called the free sterol or just it's it's just a plane, 173 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.720 it's not you know, it doesn't have anything else because it's a there's 174 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:38.720 a hydroxyl group on the end of the sterol, and that hydroxyl group is 175 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:47.840 free. It's it's available. So plant sterols in nature are in this free 176 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:52.240 sterile form, and they've been observed for a long time that they're good at 177 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:59.200 lower cholesterol. But the challenge has always been in formulation. Plant sterols are 178 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:04.200 away axy, high melting solid. You know, think of a little bit 179 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:07.119 like almost like candle wax, but think of something that melts at a lot 180 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.640 higher temperature. Right, And so you can make you can powder them, 181 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.559 and you can make them into tablets, and they do work, but they 182 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.880 don't work very well. They're hard to break down into your body. You 183 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:23.440 need to get a high surface area of plant sterols in your intestine to block 184 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:30.119 all the cholesterol that your body's producing. Right, So you know there are 185 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:37.039 there were, and probably still are tablet based powdered sterile products on the market. 186 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:44.400 Yeah, and those don't work quite as well well. In the nineties, 187 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:52.880 scientists figured out that if you combine a plant steril with a fatty acid, 188 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:57.440 you know, fats and oils, vegetable fatty acid, you can make 189 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:06.160 what's called a sterile esterka. That sterel ester is superior to the free steryl 190 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.680 tablets or the powdered free steryls, but it comes with a lot of extra 191 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:18.559 so nearly half of the of the amount of the sterile ester is not the 192 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:23.599 steril that's doing the work, fatty acid, which is excess calories, which 193 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:27.720 is just fat that that is, it makes it easier to absorb, it 194 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:32.400 makes it better, easier to formulate with. That's the form most commonly that 195 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:37.960 was used in margarines. So steril ester is used in margarines in Europe and 196 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:45.079 steril esters are fine, but there in terms

of their applications, they're they're 197 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:51.680 limited primarily to soft gels or to things like margarines or yogurt drinks, and 198 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.119 those products can be great, they can be a great way to get plant 199 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:02.079 sterols and you die. But that the flip side is is that as we've 200 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:08.880 become a better educated society about natural products and and you know, we start 201 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:15.079 to think, you know, maybe maybe butter actually isn't so bad for you. 202 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.920 You know, maybe maybe coconut fat, coconut oils or or butter or 203 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:23.440 are actually pretty great choices. And maybe margarines made from soybean oils are not 204 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:29.559 actually that great. Right, And then not everybody wants to drink dairy, 205 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:33.400 right, So yogurt drinks, I mean people love. Some people drink you 206 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:37.200 know, yoga drink or something every day, but other people you know, 207 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.759 want to be plant based or want to be veg vegan, and doesn't work 208 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:51.160 for them. Right, So this leads us to the patented nanodispersion of free 209 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:59.240 steriles cardio smile. So so cardio smile is a labor of love of many 210 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:04.000 you know, more in a decade and a half at this point of research 211 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:18.920 of development of of patented manufacturing capability to make this sophisticated nanodispersion very small particle 212 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:22.400 size of plant sterils, but in the original free sterile form, So not 213 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:26.000 this tablet that that gets kind of stuck in your gut and you know, 214 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:32.200 you pass through and it doesn't really break apart and give you the the the 215 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:37.319 absorption benefit. Yeah, but this nanodispersion that can they can go into your 216 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:44.000 intestine and can really be a very effective at blocking cholesterol. Well, the 217 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:52.359 the the cardio smile nanodispersion format is this easy to use liquid and it it 218 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.880 really what's what's interesting is it's not just hey, it's not JMO. It's 219 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.839 not just that it hits this neat. It's neat easy to use. It's 220 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:11.119 actually been shown to be superior to other supplement forms of plant sterols, whether 221 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:17.559 free sterols in the tablet form, yeah, sterol esters in the soft tale 222 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:22.319 form, because it's been shown to lower triglycerides. So there was a there 223 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:30.880 was a twenty fourteen study at the University of Manitoba that gave people either plant 224 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:38.920 sterols in the form of liquid cardios mile or plant sterol esters and they had 225 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:45.200 similar results in lowering cholesterol, but in the plant sterol, but in the 226 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:53.279 cardiosmile group. It raised HDL and it lowered triglycerides. Oh really right, 227 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.839 and this is really interesting. So this is something that cardiosmile does that other 228 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:03.799 plant steril products don't. Historically, we're looking for a natural substance that lowers 229 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.960 triglycerides. It's really only ever been shown to be fish oil. Yeah, 230 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:18.440 And the most effective pharmaceutical products on the market that lower triglycerides are all basically 231 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:26.839 just really high strength fish oil. Right. Where's the ammerin the vasipa product. 232 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:32.920 Yes, that's just like it's ninety seven percent epa omega three fatty acid 233 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:41.079 and really good at lowering triglycerides. Conversely, a lot of people in the 234 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.119 United States, I mean not nearly as much as maybe some of us might 235 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.799 wish, but it's about ten or twelve percent of the population is pretty regular 236 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:56.279 about taking omega three fatty acids from fish oil. Yeah. And most people 237 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.240 I've you know, I used to run a fish oil company. I've been 238 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:06.160 in the Fischer oil business for a long time. Yeah. Most people will 239 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:10.400 take fish oil and they'll think, well, fish oil is good for my 240 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:15.480 heart. It is fish oil if they know anything about it lowers my triglycerides, 241 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:21.319 especially if I take quite a bit, it does. And fish oil 242 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:27.559 helps my cholesterol it does not. So it's something like one out of five 243 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:36.240 fish oil users think that fish oil lowers their cholesterol, right, And there 244 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:41.880 is evidence that fish oil is the Amega three fatty acids of fish oil, 245 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:51.759 probably mostly e bay does lower does improve the ld L particle size. It 246 00:23:51.839 --> 00:24:02.000 helps to make a healthier lipoprotein. That it's certainly that there's there's benefits other 247 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:06.359 than just a number. Yeah, like a Mega three fatty acids from fish 248 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:11.240 oil or from plant based sources help with that. Certainly. I wouldn't want 249 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:15.160 to give the impression that I don't think those are really important things to take 250 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.240 every day, because they are right. But most people who take a fish 251 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.599 oil supplement for

their heart, who are interested in a natural product, interested 252 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:30.240 in that natural solution for their health. I meet these people all the time 253 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.720 and they say, I don't know if I need plant sterols. I'm taking 254 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.640 fish all and that's good for my cholesterol. Yeah, well, it won't 255 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:47.079 lower your cholesterol. There's mountains of evidence on this front. So it's really 256 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:52.720 it's really plant sterols that are that beneficial substance that have been shown they can 257 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:59.720 be used alone, or they can be complementary to standard of care for people 258 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:06.599 who's still or you know, their doctors prescribing in the pharmaceutical intervention and they're 259 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:11.279 they're looking to maybe reduce the amount that they have to take in a day, 260 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:18.880 or they're looking to augment what they're taking with the pharmaceutical. So a 261 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.400 product like cartismus, it's easy to take the liquid, but it sees superior 262 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:32.279 results other over other supplements. I have it actually right here. That's one 263 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:36.839 of the products. Yep. Yeah, I like it a lot. I 264 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:38.960 feel like there is a lot of miss out there also. I think that's 265 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:44.480 why people get so confused because you hear a lot of If you ever read 266 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.640 some of the articles on the internet, there's a lot of controversy. Someone 267 00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:51.359 will say something, then another person will say something, and people get these 268 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.519 myths, like like you mentioned that omega three can actually help lower cholesterol when 269 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.160 it can't. You know, So it's like, you know, it will 270 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.960 help a certain form, but it's not going to lower your numbers like people 271 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:11.440 think it is. Yeah, and it's even it's even things like we would 272 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:19.119 all we would all we would often say that liquids are more observable. But 273 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.319 it is a little bit of a myth, right, because it really depends 274 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:32.519 on the substance the matrix. Yes, it depends on the kind of liquid 275 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.599 made, you know, just there's a lot of fixtures that go so as 276 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:44.440 an example, Omega three fatty acids. The exact same form of omega three 277 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:49.720 is whether it's a plant based ahi flower oil, whether it is a fish 278 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:56.200 oil. The exact same form that's put into a soft gail pill is the 279 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.519 same form that's put into a liquid corrible, right, So there's no difference 280 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:06.599 in your absorption of these two products. It's it's your soft tails disintegrate in 281 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:11.519 the gut really quickly because there's just gelatin and water. Right. So, 282 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.440 but there are you know, there's a lot of popular uh say, for 283 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:22.359 instance, some some companies make liquid iron supplements. There's a couple of prominent 284 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.519 companies that make really good liquid iron supplements, and those are far superior to 285 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:32.880 little hard tablets of you know, iron oxide that are you know, often 286 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:41.960 prescribed by doctors. So yeah, it's it's a it's a challenging landscape and 287 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.000 modernity to wade through, you know, all of the information that's at our 288 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.359 fingertips and to try to decide, you know, what is actually accurate, 289 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:55.799 right exactly if you have let's say, if you do use the plant style, 290 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.319 is it good to you combine it with maybe like a Reggy's rice or 291 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.720 is it like or is it is just effective you don't need to add another 292 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:10.759 supplement to have better effectiveness? Or it does does it help you can't? 293 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.559 You can use it in conjunction with the Reggie rice. The thing about Reggie 294 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:23.880 rice though, is is there's Reggie redd Ye rice. The primary components of 295 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:29.680 Reggie rice that actually do the cholesterol lowering effect, it's their statins, so 296 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.839 oh okay, are made in such a way that they're a natural product, 297 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:40.200 and they they fit the definition of the supplement not a drug, which there's 298 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.359 FDA, you know, with the passage of DHA in the early nineties has 299 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.720 a pretty pretty clear guidance on what that is. So you know, Reggie 300 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:53.880 rice products are not supplements masquerading as illegal drugs or anything like that. But 301 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.279 but the mechanism of action, the way that they work, it's the same 302 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:03.640 status prescriptions. Because I was going to ask you, because they say if 303 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.480 you put you can't, you shouldn't take more than twelve hundred milligrams because it 304 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:14.680 could cause joint pain. So it was So that's probably why because it's and 305 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.039 a lot of pharmaceutical companies when they're making statins they add yet reggie rice to 306 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.920 the ingredients. A lot of the companies, so they're known to put reggie 307

00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.480 rice in a lot of their in a lot of their cholesterol medications, in 308 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:36.599 certain medications too. Yeah, so Reggie's rice not a product that I personally 309 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:41.200 would take. Yeah, I didn't know that. That's very interesting. I 310 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:47.400 I don't know that there's really any significant difference or benefit over taking just a 311 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.640 statin. Okay, take a statin. I would just take a satin. 312 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.880 But I'm not a doctor. I don't give medical advice. I can just 313 00:29:52.880 --> 00:30:00.680 tell yeah, what's what's similar? I think? You know what what's interesting 314 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.599 about plant stereoals is is that it's a side effect. It's a it's a 315 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:14.720 zero or low side effect product. It's not because it's not it really, 316 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:21.920 we couldn't. We couldn't call plant sterils a nutrient because really, you know, 317 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.880 for for nutrition, it's the definition of a nutrients something we absorb, 318 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:32.400 right, It's something like, for instance, we need calcium for our bones. 319 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.119 We need d h A for our brains. You know, we need 320 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.200 omega threes into our cellular function, and we absorb them and we put them 321 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:44.559 in our body and we use them, you know in structural way. Well, 322 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:52.160 plant sterols are really probably closer to something like a fiber. Okay, 323 00:30:52.200 --> 00:31:00.000 I know miltary fiber is really really important and that you know, a healthy 324 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:06.319 lifestyle involves plenty of dietary fiber for for proper intestinal health. But at the 325 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:14.119 same time, it's not a nutrient. You're not incorporating fiber, right, 326 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:17.640 You're not building cells out of fiber. In fact, it's just the opposite. 327 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:21.759 It's it's there because it's helpful at eliminating things from our body. Right. 328 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.079 Plants sterils have that very similar kind of effect. It's it's not a 329 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:32.480 nutrient, yeah, it but it is important like fiber, right. And 330 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.920 by the way, fibers really could at helping to lower cholesterol. There's a 331 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:44.079 there. There is a a reasonable amount of coverage I think we've seen the 332 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:48.960 last few months on the Portfolio diet, and the Portfolio diet is a new 333 00:31:49.960 --> 00:32:01.680 clinically researched diet that has a bunch of practical dietary guidelines for lowering cholesterol. 334 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:12.720 It was recently endorsed by the American Heart Association. The Portfolio diet among

and 335 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:16.640 I don't know if I could recite off all the things that you eat. 336 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:23.079 It's kind of like a modified Mediterranean diet. But one of the things that 337 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:32.400 Portfolio Diet specifically recommends is intake of plant sterols from foods and sub And it's 338 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:42.559 not it's not a fad diet that was just created by happy influencers. It's 339 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:47.799 it's a clinic it's a clinically researched diet that's had a tremendous amount of study 340 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.400 and research behind it that just shows that if you eat the Portfolio diet, 341 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:58.960 you will be have a healthier, you know, better metabolic health and lower 342 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.240 cholesterol. And part of that is from the fibers and other things, and 343 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.680 part of that is from the plant sterols. Wow, that's very interesting. 344 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:13.400 That's very interesting. And I like the fact that you can you can really 345 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.440 if you uptake your intake on fiber, it could also help with your cholesterol. 346 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.759 And I like the idea that you also pointed out about red yeast rice. 347 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.799 I guarantee you thousands of people don't even really I didn't even realize that, 348 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:32.000 and I'm pretty much to up to date with all supplements and vitamins, 349 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.799 but that I didn't know that. I didn't realize that it basically works similar 350 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.160 to a STAT and once it gets into your body, and that's probably why 351 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.799 I like what I mentioned. It has some of the same effects and intelligent 352 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.359 don't take out you know, more than this milligrams and da da da, 353 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.039 because it works like a statin and that's what the side effects of STAT and 354 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:57.160 do it could cause joint pain and so forth. Yeah, it's it's surprising 355 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.599 how many read east rice products around the market. And I've always just thought, 356 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.679 I'm not entirely sure why this category exists, but I mean, there 357 00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:13.599 it is, probably exists because it does work. It's just that you know, 358 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.119 there's a certain number of side effects that that happened with it, and 359 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:21.880 you know, people are just not as clued into Yeah, no for sure, 360 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.199 because you know, they're thinking a natural supplement. They're thinking that it's 361 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.320 it's pure, it's natural, it's good for the body, you know, 362 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.559 but they're not they don't realize that it has it's pretty much

very similar in 363 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.119 lots of ways to a static you know. So that's a very good that's 364 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:44.800 good information to know. Yeah, I mean I I've been in the natural 365 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.039 products business a good bit of my career and I really like natural products. 366 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:54.679 I've always had a big emphasis on eating whole foods. Yeah, looking real 367 00:34:54.719 --> 00:35:01.840 food, not even junk food. You know. You know, it's it's 368 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:09.519 tremendously like the process of cooking your own food and sitting down with your family 369 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.360 once a day for dinner, and and you know, having the time where 370 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:21.000 everybody comes together and you eat something that you know some or all of you 371 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.679 have helped make. It's fantastic. And that that ties in with I like 372 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.039 to grow and I like to grow my own vegetables and my garden. Yeah. 373 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:36.119 Obviously I'm not a farmer, so vegetables you know, from from the 374 00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:40.159 store. But yeah, so I've been in the natural food business a long 375 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.039 time and I've always been a really big proponent of this, you know, 376 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.920 whole food, you know, high quality, natural, nutrient rich you know 377 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.920 food. You know food first, and then add in all the supplements that 378 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:58.800 we need that are that are missing from from the nutrients and substances missing from 379 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:04.480 our diet. I think lately the past five or six years, it's been 380 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:15.119 pretty concerning to me, the plant based craze where everything that's plant based must 381 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.840 be good. Yeah it's not. Yeah, it's not. You forget that. 382 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.840 There's all sorts of plants that we can't eat because they're poisonous. Yeah, 383 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.519 but those are in our food supply. But I think I've seen this 384 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.960 a lot in the supplement industry where just somebody assumes it's the it's called the 385 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:37.320 appeal to nature fallacy. Yeah, someone assumes that because it's a substance that 386 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.320 comes from a plant and that it's put into an extract, that it must 387 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:44.280 be good, it must be good for you, and it's you know, 388 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:52.159 people forget that, like well, I mean some plant based extracts are tremendously 389 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:58.760 impactful to health. Yeah, ashwagandha and holy basil, right, and forget 390 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.199 that. On the other hand, you know, Socrates famously committed suicide by 391 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:09.280 drinking

poisoned hemlock exact. Yeah, that's true. I forgot about that one. 392 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:20.559 The plant based movement, I like parts of the sentiment. You know, 393 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.599 there's there's aspects of it that I think, you know, getting people 394 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:32.239 to eat more plants and more vegetables. Is it's it's certainly, I mean 395 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:36.480 you can sign me on for that. I you know, I try to 396 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:44.559 vegetables and more of them in a great variety and diversity of them. But 397 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:50.599 but you know, the trend towards like making everything in a laboratory, it's 398 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.840 almost's almost like the it's almost like the natural products industry kind of lost its 399 00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:00.199 mind. Yeah, you know, I think it's starting to get it back 400 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:08.519 right with the with you know, the success of your organic foods movement and 401 00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:15.239 natural foods over the last twenty years or so, and some really like really 402 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:21.920 amazing companies that built you know, really successful businesses. Yeah, helped change 403 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.800 the food system. Then you see in you know the mid to late you 404 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:32.159 know, twenty teens, you see that heavy investment from venture capital, right 405 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.000 the things that it's like, wait a second, I thought we left left 406 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:43.000 the better living through science and you know, fake foods. I thought we 407 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.440 left that back in the seventies. You know, yeah, exactly. I 408 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.559 thought the natural foods industry kind of you know, that's what the health food 409 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:57.880 store was all about. You know, you know it's very true since you're 410 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.960 Alina and your fresh vegetable and your pod liver oil and all that stuff. 411 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.960 Right, But yeah, it's like we made this plant based burger in a 412 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:14.119 lab. Yeah. No, Oh my goodness. I see that all the 413 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:15.920 time. I go into food stores and it says plant based, and I'm 414 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.280 looking at it and there's nothing natural about this product in any ways, shape 415 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.760 or form, and it's like just shake my head. I'm like, oh 416 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.039 my goodness. And then people pick it up, they buy it, and 417 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.840 they think it's good because it says plant based. So immediately they think and 418 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:37.000 they're eating something healthy when there's nothing natural in that product whatsoever? You know, 419 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:45.639 the you know, and or more of a bag of Doritos it's plant 420 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:52.000 based. Yeah, it doesn't mean I let my kids eat doritos exactly. 421 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.840 Maybe once in a blue moon, right exactly. Oh my god, I'd 422 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:01.000 be three hundred pounds of eys Toritos every day. Now, when you're taking 423 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:07.920 a plant sterre, do you do you you take it before each meal or 424 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.440 can you just take it once a day? Like what's more? Like, 425 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.000 what's effective If you're trying to lose cholesterol and improve your heart your heart health, 426 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.119 is it good to have it before a meal? Or is it just 427 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.280 it's fine to take it in the morning or when you wake up and that's 428 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:29.760 all you need, or is it does it matter? So historically your typical 429 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:34.280 plant sterile formulation, if you take it on an empty stomach, it won't 430 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:39.039 do anything, okay, because you've got to be digesting things. Got This 431 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:45.599 is the critical Most of the cholesterol comes from your liver, right and your 432 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.679 secretes bile, which contains cholesterol. Right, You've got to have things digest 433 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:55.559 to really get that. That mechanism going, gotcha, Cardious smile has been 434 00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.000 shown to be effective even on an empty stomach. Oh really, but it's 435 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:06.559 better if you take it with food. And this you know, I'm not 436 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:14.519 a dietitian, so I, you know, a really well, really knowledgeable 437 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:19.400 dietitian could could go through a long list of this supplement should be taken with 438 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.320 food and this one should not go forth. So I can't give this like 439 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:32.480 broad sweeping advice, but I can say that a lot of nutrients and supplements 440 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.719 should be taken with food. It's not universal, you know, really you 441 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:44.079 should you should understand specifically for this product, you know, but so so, 442 00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:49.519 for instance, with Omega three fatty acids. Omega three fatty acids have 443 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:55.639 been shown to really their their best if taken with your fattiest meal of the 444 00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:02.639 day, as that fat that's in your diet usually it's your largest meal of 445 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.519 the day. But the other fat that's in your diet helps your body to 446 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:15.800 absorb the omega threes, the biological processes that you're using to absorb fat. 447 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:22.559 It's better if there's more fat in the mix with plant sterils. It's really 448 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:30.039 best if the plant sterils are

in your intestine at the same time that your 449 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.320 food is there, right because it's the cholesterol from your diet, from your 450 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:43.480 food and the cholesterol from your liver, and so you know, it's really 451 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.880 you can take plant cereals sort of before, during, and after, Okay, 452 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:59.400 you know, eating with cardios smile, it's pretty convenient to take added 453 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:04.119 to a bevy ridge are added to food. People will put it a smoothie, 454 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.559 they'll put in shake, that's what I do. Yeah, I mean, 455 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:15.679 they'll put it in in in just plain water, juice, coffee, 456 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.840 tea. The trick. The trick with cardio smile is because it is a 457 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:27.599 nanodispersion, it is a little bit sensitive to very high heat and vari acidic 458 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:35.039 environments. So if you put it in something like really hot coffee, it 459 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:39.159 can curdle and it's kind of unpleasant, yeah, clump, and it just 460 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:45.760 people go, oh, this is and and ac casion. Most fruit juices 461 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:51.000 and things that the pH isn't low enough to cause the problem. But you, 462 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.760 I don't know, if you have a really really acidic fresh squeeze orange 463 00:43:53.840 --> 00:44:01.119 juice, it may break the break the emulsion and cause But it's pretty versatile 464 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:07.199 with food. I mean I I often have it with just a small glass 465 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:15.239 of water during breakfast, right, so maybe I have a few eggs for 466 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:21.000 breakfast and have just cardi a smile on the bottom of a small juice glass 467 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.599 with a couple ounces of water. It doesn't really tak like much of anything, 468 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:30.679 so it hasn't it has land neutral taste. It it's easy to incorporate 469 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:37.280 into a broad things. And you know, one of my one of my 470 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:43.119 industry colleagues who really likes playing steriles, she really likes to put it in 471 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:50.679 her protein shakes. Both she and her husband say that it's the this actual 472 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:57.119 plant sterile content helps improve the texture of the protein shake and helps it be 473 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.599 less gritty. Inside. I felt like it did too. I did also. 474 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.480 Yeah, so you know you can get a add it to your approachein 475 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:10.159 shake and you can get you can get that texture benefit that has nothing to 476 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.880 do with health. It's just well it is more pleasant. Yeah, And 477 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.199 I think also with you have you have different flavors going on. You don't 478 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:21.239 taste anything, so it's like, you know, it's bland to begin with, 479 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.679 but you don't even know that you're and it's in the drink. You 480 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:28.559 don't even it doesn't even phase you that you're actually drinking it, if you 481 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.079 know what I'm saying. It's just you know, but it is so you 482 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.239 don't really you can take it. You can take it with your biggest meal, 483 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.800 but you don't have to take it like every meal like breakfast, lunch, 484 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:46.679 dinner, or is it better it's so so the the product is designed 485 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:53.079 to deliver two grams, which is the same as two thousand milligrams gotcha rams 486 00:45:53.159 --> 00:46:00.320 of plant sterols in a single stick pack. God gives you a full daily 487 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:06.000 intake of two grams. I got her, now, I understand. Yeah, 488 00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:07.159 And that's what we were talking about in the beginning of the conversation. 489 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.719 You need two thousand. Most people get like two or three hundred, and 490 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.400 they don't realize. So I understand that, so that one stick is actually 491 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.559 giving you a day's supply of what you should be taken for a plant starl 492 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:25.199 gotcha. Yeah, that's correct. So it makes it makes it easy to 493 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:35.119 use. And uh, you know, you know a good friend of mine 494 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:39.639 who's a dietician and a big advocate of supplements. Yeah, you know, 495 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:46.920 she always says that the most important time to take a supplement, Yeah, 496 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:53.320 is the time that you remember to take it. I like that. I 497 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.360 like her way. I think you yeah, so for I mean, you 498 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:05.880 know, for really experienced dietician perspective, I mean, you know, and 499 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.079 she'll, you know, she can dive into clinical science and you know, 500 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:15.000 produce a paper that will show that this product should be taken at this way 501 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:22.440 and this product over here should be taken that way, and there is truth 502 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.440 in these you know, these clinical findings. But the vast majority of the 503 00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:36.639 barrier for us achieving that improved health through supplementation with natural products that we have 504 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:43.519 to remember to take them exactly. I mean, the the I think the 505 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:49.800 technique that's been the most time honored for my family for my wife and our 506 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:55.800 three kids. Sometimes it's my wife, sometimes it's

me, but will lay 507 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:01.000 out little food prep cups. Good idea, Yeah, everybody's daily ration. 508 00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.320 And you leave it on the counter, and then you sort of know, 509 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.559 did you take yourself? You know it's there on the counter. It's got 510 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.400 to be put away, right, So yeah, you go chase down one 511 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.199 of the kids and go, hey, that's a great idea. Take this 512 00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.519 earlier and you didn't here it is and and you know, the same goes 513 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.800 for me. I mean it's sitting right next to the fruit and the fruit 514 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.840 basket, and I can look at it and think, oh, that's right. 515 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:30.639 I still haven't today, haven't I. So the time that you remember 516 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.360 to take it is the best time usually exactly. I have mine. I 517 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.519 keep it in the bathroom right on my toothbrush and everything. So then I 518 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.840 when I go in there and I'm getting ready in the morning, it's like 519 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.239 right in front of me. And I would have friends that come in my 520 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.800 bathroom and they tease me, they say, my bathroom looks like a pharmacy, 521 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:51.239 you know, But but I remember because it's like right in front of 522 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.000 the mirror, right in front of me, and it's like, so then 523 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.440 whiles I'm getting ready brush your teeth and that that it's like, Okay, 524 00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.639 the pills are right in front of me, My supplements are right in front 525 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.239 of me. I just take everything as I'm going along, and that's usually 526 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.039 I'm usually pretty good. There'll be days where I might forget one bottle, 527 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:07.440 but that at night time, by time get you know, I'll figure it 528 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.880 out most of the time that you know, But overall, it's like that 529 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.800 morning is when I kind of remember and go through it all. You know. 530 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.280 Yeah, that's it's really those everybody has. Everybody who's good at taking 531 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:28.039 their supplements has that system. Right. It's will be different for each of 532 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:32.239 us, but it's it's find a good system that you can work on where 533 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:37.079 you remember and it's it's visible or it's present. You know, often have 534 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.920 things, you know, it's people like to have everything put away and have 535 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.599 a clean, yeah, clean tidy house, but sometimes leaving things out on 536 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.960 the counter reminds you to deal

with it and right reminds you to prioritize your 537 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.280 health. Exactly. Now, if you had to take give a couple of 538 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.440 takeaways, a couple of things you like to emphasize to the listeners. What 539 00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:59.880 would you like to tell the listeners, you know, out of everything we 540 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.559 talked about that you thought were really important, what are certain things you'd like 541 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:15.440 to really emphasize. But I think that I would certainly emphasize that supplementation with 542 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:25.880 natural products with important nutrients and and other important substances are It's it's critical two 543 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:36.800 overcoming our our western diet. That plant steriles are pretty effective natural way to 544 00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:46.000 our body metabolize cholesterol and keep our cholesterol levels healthy. They're they're they're practical, 545 00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.920 they're affordable. We can get them in a variety of sources in our 546 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:58.320 diet. We can, we can get them through supplementation. We should. 547 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:02.679 We should when we're looking at things that are natural, we should look like 548 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:09.039 Reggie's rice. We should be aware of potential side effects that natural substances have, 549 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:15.559 because not not all natural products and not all natural substances are side effect 550 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:22.639 free, and and and you know, lastly, I think that establishing good 551 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:30.440 routines is really important. You know, I used to have I used to 552 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.000 run a fisher oil company, and I used to give away lots and lots 553 00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.000 of Fisher oil products to just I mean literally anybody. I mean, when 554 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.679 it comes to my work, do work in my house, Like give them 555 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:44.880 a bottle, you know, yeah, that ex driver gets a bottle. 556 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:50.000 Just everybody go to somebody's house for you know, dinner or something, bring 557 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:53.159 them some bottles of supplements. And I would meet somebody and they'd say, 558 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:58.760 oh, yeah, hey, I got that. I got that bottle of 559 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.360 fish all you gave me. And I'm going I saw you like three months 560 00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:07.599 ago or four out by now. It doesn't work if you don't take it, 561 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.840 you know, sitting it on the shelf and we're buried, you know, 562 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.960 behind your your you know, other stuff in your pantry, Like it's 563 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:21.639 not doing you any good exactly. That's funny, you know. So establish 564 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:27.239 those patterns and habits in order to make the supplementation regular, you know, 565 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:34.719 habitual. Can you tell us like the products that you sell again, so 566 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:42.119 everybody knows the different products that you have available. Sure, Cardio Smile Liquid 567 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:50.760 Plant Steriles for heart and metabolic health is our flagship product for cholesterol reduction, 568 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:57.360 and it comes in a thirty count box, so it's a thirty day supply. 569 00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:02.000 It has two thousand milligrams of plants arrels for each single sachet of liquid. 570 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:09.519 We also and cardio Smile is available either on Amazon or cardiosmile USA dot 571 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:15.159 com. We also have a product called Regenerative Omegas, which I didn't speak 572 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:22.079 about very much, but Regenerative of Omegas is a plant based Omega three supplement 573 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:28.000 made from Ahi flower oil. Oh wow, Ahi flower is a plant based 574 00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:36.360 Omega three six nine formula and that's available at Regenitive Omegas dot com or Amazon. 575 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:43.880 Wow. That's amazing, and so either going on the website or going 576 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.840 on Amazon, people could get access to these these supplements and plants. That's 577 00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:57.519 coracty whatever, whatever is the most convenient. Yeah, for shopping habits. 578 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.679 This has been great. Thank you so much, sound for coming on this 579 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:06.239 show. Is there anything else you'd like to say before we go or no, 580 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.480 thanks thanks for having me on. It's I'd love to talk about natural 581 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:13.960 products and supplements and plan steriles and it's always a really good time. So 582 00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.760 I really really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. Oh, thank you. 583 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.079 It's been a pleasure having you on this show. Thank you so much 584 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.079 for coming on. I hope to have you back on. Thank you so 585 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.000 much. You have a great day. Thanks you too.