บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Down The Ultimate Conspiracy Rabbit Hole: Portals, Alien Bases & Forgotten History

in and you are somewhere else, there's belief that they go to the inside of the Earth. There's belief that they go to other planets. There's beliefs that they go to other states. There's beliefs that they just sit right there. These portals could mean a lot of different things, right, So it could also be to underground civilizations, it could be to alien bases, to spiritual realms. This belief is pretty widespread on what the portals mean. A lot of people seem to think that if you stumble upon an arch or a cave or two trees that look a little suspicious, walking through a potential portal. Now on the even creepier side of this is that people have stumbled upon staircases out in the wide open that look completely abandoned, and people say not to go on those staircases because they do lead somewhere. Now to is that scientific proof evidence? There really isn't any. There is a whole belief in the that came out about this was the Missing four one one series by a man named David, And I haven't really deeped dove that side, but there is map connections where people have reported going missing where these potential portals lay. And that's why there's a lot of just more mystery per se around this it's also connected to Bigfoot sidings. There's a lot of people that believe Bigfoot is actually an interdimensional being that's traveling through these portals to different places, which is why nobody's ever caught it. 00:08:10 Speaker 2: Is a time traveler, a furry time travel. 00:08:13 Speaker 1: Or an alien, and he's utilizing these which is why nobody can ever place him. He knows how to travel through these dimensions and portals. So that's the base of this belief. How do you feel there are portals and there are these interdimensional spaces in national parks? 00:08:29 Speaker 2: I want to go find one? 00:08:31 Speaker 1: Would you go in one? If it means you never came back? 00:08:34 Speaker 2: At could jump in? You me, Remy Hazel jump in and we. 00:08:39 Speaker 1: May never come back. We never know what's on the other side. 00:08:41 Speaker 2: We've been watching a lot of Star Trek and good things happen when you go through a portal. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: Right, right, So why this might hold some evidence. So obviously national parks are huge. Not a lot of people live in them. You have workers that live in them. You also have employees of national say you have volunteers. And when I say workers, there's people who will live at campsites to help with that and they're like for a season, and you can only live in a national park if you were living there before it became a national park, which there's not a lot of that. So population small, that means a lot of things can happen undetected. They're really difficult to search because they're full of whether it be caves, difficult terrain, geothermal activity. There's just a lot of landscape around there that just makes it hard to navigate certain things. Right. And with the connection to the missing for one one missing cases and people never being heard from. There's even a report of a guy who went missing in one national park and showed up on the completely other side of the country and another national park and he has no idea how why. People have reports of time being lost, that they were one place and now all of a sudden hours have passed and they have no idea what happened. So so these are all reports similar to people talking about being abducted by alien seeing aliens. So that's why the belief is hard to understand and hard to say if it's true or not, because we don't know that portals are real. 00:10:15 Speaker 2: So you experience it exactly, don't knock it till you try it. 00:10:19 Speaker 1: So there's also this other idea around it too, is that these portals lead to underground bases in tunnel systems where there's like Area fifty one, Doulce Base, Mount Shasta. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing those names correctly. Those are some examples. Doulce Base people think is a joint human and alien underground facility that's beneath this mesa in Mesa Mesa in New Mexico, which, okay, so this is the legend behind it. It originated in the nineteen seventies. They think that extra terrestrials and government agents conduct genetic experiments on humans and animals inside guide of this multi story subterranean complex. So there was a guy who believed he intercepted communications from alien spacecraft communicating with a secret facility near the Colorado New Mexico border. There's even these particular papers from Dulce. Papers described the seven story underground laboratory where humans and aliens are working together. Though some of the stories claim a war broke out between the two factions in the late nineteen seventies, and there were locals along with researchers who have pointed to stories of cattle mutilations, glowing crafts, strange lights over the area, and alleged sightings of biological creatures. So a lot of things happening in this particular area connect to that story that this is a possible existence over there. Okay, do you think that there is a world in which humans have already discovered another life aliens, extraterrestrials, and there is a group of them that are or at once we're working with them. 00:12:10 Speaker 2: There are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on planet Earth. Yeah, I think we have no idea what's going on. And if there is other civilizations, are they way more advanced, are they less advanced? We don't know, And that's okay, that's what science has to prove it, right, So it's like, maybe there is and maybe aliens are here. Do I think so? I think it'd be pretty cool. 00:12:45 Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: And life is still going on, so I think that's awesome. So yeah, sure, if you need a yes or no answer, yes, it's possible. Remy is my source. 00:12:56 Speaker 1: And honestly, then it also connects to the bigfit theory with some of them, that the interdimensional is connected

to this underground area and that was one of the creatures that was created. It's more, it could be just a one person, it could be a few of them that were created. Who knows, but they do all connect and there is a lot of connections here that place to whatever it is definitely being something that we are not familiar with. Yeah, I don't know. How else do you explain people going missing, time being lost? A lot of people love to contribute anyone who's had a different experience than as crazy as that's not possible, that couldn't happen. But again, if somebody were to come to me and say that, I'd be like, tell me more, how did that happen? What do you remember? Because I think the moment you start to question everything is when your whole world opens up to possibilities. If you don't question anything, you never evolve, right, And so to evolve we have to question. We have to understand, you have to believe it to be true. But to question something is to have knowledge. 00:14:04 Speaker 2: I want to question that guy that ended up across the country, right, that's a fascinating story. 00:14:09 Speaker 1: And I haven't gone down in a deep wormhole on the Missing for one one series. I need to get some more research and evidence. So there's also another part to this. There are these things called lay lines, and this all started with a man named Alfred Watkins in the nineteen twenties. He noticed, you'll love this, that ancient sites in England lined up geographically, like standing stones, burial mounds and all these basis of history lined up with lay lines that are invisible energy lines that criss cross the earth in certain sacred sites. So these lay lines could be connected to said portals, which has now evolved. This theory that he had has now obviously evolved into the portals and the interdimensional sides. But there is this belief of lay lines that connects a lot of things, and that's energy, and energy is a lot of things that we don't understand yet. 00:15:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I've heard of lay lines before. And how certain I think Stonehedge is on one, it's where three lay lines cross. And yeah, there's different sites that just happen to be on these. 00:15:18 Speaker 1: Energy And you go back to when I catch some of his glimpses of the documentaries that he's watching about history and ancient sites and people going to explore them, and I have a feeling you might be walking us down there, which is that aliens are connected to a lot of that, or just people maybe even more advanced civilizations than we thought. It's a really interesting theory that there could be more advanced civilizations than us that came before us, and it could also be connected to a lot of that. And honestly, a lot of indigenous cultures believed a lot of things about earth and ground and animals and nature, and quite frankly, I think they were very smart and a lot of what they were doing. They were one of the first people to understand a lot of this stuff. And

so if we kind of go back to those ideas and beliefs before people were swayed in each direction or the other because of technology, because of the industrial revolution, because of how we evolved, then I feel like we should be trusting some of the people who maybe saw things that we did not see, or saw before they got hidden, or saw things that happened that they couldn't explain at the time, but they found ways to explain them through sacred sides or burial grounds or whatever. And I think that's a really interesting idea to walk down. 00:16:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and right into my next one, did you It was perfect? The show that you were talking about is my favorite show. I can't stop watching. I've probably watched it through twenty times. There's two seasons, and it's kind of my Some people watch Friends, some people watch The Office, No what Gilmore Girls, I love Gilmore Girls, yep, or Gray's Anatomy. People have their show they go back to. I go back to Ancient Apocalypse with Graham Hancock. He I just absolutely love. I love how he tells his stories, I love the content. So it's my all time favorite show right in this moment. So basically, in Ancient Apocalypse, he is trying to prove that there were sophisticated civilizations that were not necessarily more advanced than we are now, but they're more advanced than we would think hunter gatherers were. And these civilizations lived before the Last Ice Age, so we're talking like thirteen thousand years ago, so ten thousand BC somewhere in there. So a couple things that two of my favorite I'm gonna show two of my favorites. I could go episode by episode because I love every place he goes to. But my favorite by far is called Go Becky Tempi, and it's in Turkey and it was found a farmer he was working on it's this big hill on his land and he came across some stones and stuff and they started digging. And now it's a museum. It's an outdoor museum and it has these giant megalists with all kinds of carvings on them that align with the stars. And it's just like all this stuff that if you gave me my lifetime to try to figure out what the stars are doing and then create a site to show that and carve and these megalists are tons and tons like heavy, heavy material. How did they get him lifted? It's absolutely fascinating. So I love go Becky Tempe. The structures date back to ten thousand BC, and it's just it's the question of how, like, how did a civilization twelve thousand years ago figure out all this stuff? How the stars align and different animals and there's images where it definitely looks like something's coming down from the sky and it's people with oblong heads and just stuff that makes you think. And then the second one is this one's more just how did humans produce something like that? And it's an underground city and it's called darren Coou And again cool this guy was remodeling his home and he knocked down a wall and he found the entrance to a tunnel, and that tunnel led to an underground city. In thisunderground city is built like an ant farm. It can house twenty thousand people and it has let's see, it's eighteen stories. Yeah, I can hold twenty thousand people. It had living quarters, stables for livestock, communal kitchens, wineries, oil presses, schools, and chapels all underneath the ground. 00:20:25 Speaker 1: And how they didn't have the technology. Again, I talk about the Industrial Revolution that created a lot of just industrialize things that we use in machinery and everything. They didn't have any of that. None of that was created as far as we know, right, as far as we have been told in history of what we have found from archaeologists and whatever, that stuff didn't exist to create such an elaborate thing underneath the ground. They think about they wouldn't have even had shovels for what we know, or traditional shovels or anything even manually to do that, or did they? 00:21:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, just my stone tools and I'm going to dig out a city in rock and be able to create all these different rooms. They dug deep enough to get to the water table underneath, and that created ventilation, so they have ventilation cylinders that go all the way up, and so they were able to have fire underground. Obviously it's big enough for livestock to go around. Absolutely fascinating. They don't even know how old it is, just because they carved into rock. They didn't. There's nothing to date the rock right because it's just the rock. So it's and different civilizations have writings saying that they use the facility, but no one ever has talked about when it was made. So it's fascinating stuff. And a guy was just remodeling his house and they had an entire underground city. That city also has tunnels that lead to other underground cities that aren't as big, that span for miles, and they're going to other underground cities. How would you know which way to take your stone tools and start carving into the wall to get to another I just absolutely fascinating. 00:22:28 Speaker 1: And how did you know that it was okay to do that? How did you did somebody first create the first one? They're like, oh, I can live down here, I'm fine. Oh how did they know that they could keep digging, and they would be safe to go dig. Everything we've learned about science is the earth, the mantle, the crust, the talking about the earth. How do we know where that begins and ends? Especially back then? I assuming they don't know about those things at least again what we've been told. No, I just think we don't give a lot of credit to what happened before us. 00:22:58 Speaker 2: No, And again I think we do know. And it's so fun to figure out. And it's okay to say that we don't know. You don't have to have the answer. 00:23:07 Speaker 1: No, how cool that there was people once upon a time who were on this very floating rock in space who dug an underground world and lived there and lived an entire life down there. 00:23:21 Speaker 2: And another

piece to that is why why would you go underground? Were you hiding from something? 00:23:29 Speaker 1: Was it unsafe to be living above? 00:23:32 Speaker 2: Was it too hot? So they were like being in the ground is going to be cooler. Like why every other civilization built up right, huts and teps and whatever? They went down, And it's just why? 00:23:50 Speaker 1: And was it created later? Was it from somebody from somewhere else who came here and created that? And they were hiding? So people wouldn't find them, but then something happened and they're not there anymore. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: Fascinating story. 00:24:05 Speaker 1: So Darren so fascinating. We'll have to hopefully visit one day if we can go on there. 00:24:13 Speaker 2: And Darren coo you is in Turkey as well, so we'll just we'll hit Becky Tempe and then we'll hit Darren Ko. 00:24:19 Speaker 1: We can make that happen for you, babe, do some history traveling. Speaking of TV shows, this is one of my theories around movies and TV shows that they are made up by people who have either experienced said movie tv show in their life or in a past life, and or our government's way of mixing up the truth. So either we don't believe something when it comes out, or we're skeptical when something does come out. So we're a little bit more questioning than really knowledgeable, if you will. So there's this belief that some writers director aren't inventing the stories, but they're remembering real experiences, using hidden knowledge they may have and disclosing that information through a way of a movie or a TV show. Now, if we really talk about reincarnation as well, which is gonna be my next conspiracy theory, that we'll get into that maybe some of these creators have actually experienced said life in a different life, in a different dimension, different timeline, and they're remembering pieces of it to piece together a story that they create for us to consume. So a lot of examples that people mention potential that they are connected and wound up in this is like the Matrix, Interstellar, Stranger Things, Close Encounters of the Third kind, Contagion, Black Mirror, and like We've been talking a lot about Star Trek because I've been binge watching it. He's also been binge watching it with me. I've got him in on it now. Yes, long live and prosper vulcans. But you want to talk about something that's crazy. The Hubble Telescope just celebrated finding it's six thousand, six thousandth planet, six thousand planets out there in space that up until the Hubble was even created about I don't know, like thirty years or so ago now that we didn't even know were out there. We knew about our galaxy, we knew about the systems that are in our galaxy, but six thousand planets and we know nothing about what is on them, what could potentially be on them, Is their life on them? Is there other species, other existence of things? Is there other ways to live in an atmosphere that we just believe you can't live in because

are everything carbon based? And this theory of star trek really connects to two. Is there somebody who has seen what that could look like with all those six thousand planets and traveling into space and going to different planets, and that's what it looks like, is a lot like exploration and star trek, And so it could also be on the flip side, that's the one that I really believe in. But I also don't put up past Sadly, our government to be doing predictive programming where whether it's the government, elites or insiders, anybody with higher power to be revealing the truth about the world before they happen in real life, to either prepare us or deter us from figuring out the real truth. So it's almost as if TV's shows or movies could be the original form of AI has been introduced. Now we question everything, what's real, what's not real. There was a purpose behind that, and obviously with technology evolving, it creates more questions, more lack of understanding, more lack of wanting to explore the knowledge for ourselves. And so you think about AI and how it's making everybody question everything now, I think TV shows and movies and forms of entertainment we're also doing that, you know what I mean. It's the original form of is this actually possible? Is this true? And we don't know it? So I think it could certainly be a bit of both. If I were to gamble on whichever theory I would weigh down, I think it's both. I think you could take a lot of things. I had a guy on here that came on the podcast and he was a hypnotherapist hypnosis a lot of what we know, and he was talking about how a lot of his work has really been people believing it's a joke because of movies and TV shows. It's really been stereotypes in movies or TV shows it's magic or not possible, or making people do silly things, when really hypnosis is you attaching to your subconscious mind. It's an actual practice that can help you better understand yourself. But why have we been taught that it's this magic, gimmicky thing that can't possibly help you? Why why have we been talking about Yeah, just like being conditioned, Yeah, to be seeing things in a way that we are being to to see them for a specific reason. So thoughts, give me your thoughts on this particular conspiracy theory. 00:29:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I have some questions for Michael Bay. I'd like to know if he knows how to make a transformer? 00:29:14 Speaker 1: Right? Is there a planet of transformers out there? 00:29:17 Speaker 2: I don't know. We're gonna have to ask mister by. 00:29:20 Speaker 1: Highly possible if you think about Earth and Earth being one of the one of six thousand planets out there that we have life here, and we've created technology, and technology has evolved, and we have robots. So why is there not a belief that there's not another planet out there that evolved even further past the technology to create robots that have evolved. No. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: I believe it was last week we landed a probe on an asteroid that had all the basis for water and it was a carbon based rock and it came from somewhere. That's what you need for life like. 00:30:00 Speaker 1: For life like us though. Yeah, right, And that's what's always interesting to me that people we say in some of the planets that we've explored so far, NASA and our space programs have been able to understand so far is that they don't have a basis for a life that's like us. But who's to say all life is like us? 00:30:21 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be carbon based, it doesn't need water. Yeah, who knows. 00:30:25 Speaker 1: If we were created in this way to be able to sustain this particular atmosphere, what's to say that somebody else hasn't been created to sustain another particular. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: Atmosphere, methane atmosphere. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: Who knows? And it start with dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were here, So think of potentially different creatures in other worlds being that, And maybe there's a world where dinosaurs evolved. Who knows. There's six thousand legit planets in the entire that space that we know about at this moment in time. I'm sure there's thousands more that we have not discovered. And so I think there's all kinds of options and realities and transformers. And I'm gonna say a spoiler here about Project hell Mary to give you a break to pause this really quick if you don't want the spoiler, But Rockies in the world could be rock aliens. Yeah, if you've watched it, Okay, you can continue I'm not going to do any more spoilers, but there's so many just variations of what that could look like. So we've painted certain pictures of aliens, of UFOs, of extraterrestrials, and we have no idea what any of that could possibly look like. But I think TV shows and movies help us to potentially understand that better. I think that's all a really very real possibility. 00:31:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. I Robot another movie I have not seen, but I've heard that one's very thought provoking and seemed like one of those movies that the director pushed a narrative that you would be like hm, and they opened our minds to a different thought. And now we're numb to it a little bit, right, And so slowly you watch movies, you watch TV shows, you read books, and all of a sudden it seems more normal. And then we just had the I'm not even talking about this today, but the Miami alien incident, just. 00:32:34 Speaker 1: A Miami alien incident. 00:32:36 Speaker 2: A couple weeks ago, there were claims so at a Miami mall, there was the entire Miami Police Department was deployed to the Miami Mall. People were saying that there were nine to ten foot beings walking around the mall. 00:32:57 Speaker 1: Okay, but I remember about this, but I don't feel like it was it was like a month ago. 00:33:02 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:33:02 Speaker 1: It's as all hard to tell with social media because timelines are all funky. But I do remember reports of this, and then it got scraped from the internet. 00:33:10 Speaker 2:

Got scraped from the internet, right, and no one really knows. But then someone figured out that, and this is another rabbit hole. We won't go down it, but Miami is the alternate coordinates to Antarctica. Longitude and latitude are switched, and Antarctica has all kinds of stuff going on that we won't go down there, but which. 00:33:38 Speaker 1: I want to go to Antarctica one day. 00:33:40 Speaker 2: By the way, you can't because it's closed off. 00:33:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can. There's explorations that go there. 00:33:47 Speaker 2: Maybe around it you can't. 00:33:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I'm sure there's particular places you can't go because of the ecosystem. They say. 00:33:53 Speaker 2: I would love to talk more about that, but we can't do that on this podcast. 00:33:57 Speaker 1: Okay, But the. 00:34:00 Speaker 2: The whole idea was this whole thing about aliens being at the Miami Mall, and then it just goes away. Yeah, we're now in tune because of Star Wars and Star Trek and all alien encounters, no one kept researching it, no one kept looking for it. We're all conditioned because and if you. 00:34:22 Speaker 1: Keep reading or you talk about it, you say, hey, this is possible. People are like, you're crazy, you're cuckoo, you have your tinfoil hot on. It can't possibly be real. But again, I state that there are six thousand planets that we know about. And if you don't believe that one of those six thousand planets, like us, we are what we think, one in a million. This planet is one in a million, or one in a billion, or one in a trillion, whatever you want to say, that there is not a possibility that one in those six thousand also has it, or more than one. 00:34:52 Speaker 2: In those crazy Neil de gross Tyson says that if we are one in a million, then it is scientifically inaccurate to say that we are alone. 00:35:06 Speaker 1: True. And he's the goat, so he knows everything and d my whole another one who I feel like he just knows things. He's been right into some things. 00:35:14 Speaker 2: I Love Cosmos was my show before Ancient Apocalypse. I Cosmos. Bring it back to the streaming, Bring it back. I want to watch it. 00:35:26 Speaker 1: I need to watch it with you. 00:35:27 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's so good. 00:35:31 Speaker 1: So we need to get into our last two. Okay, let's get into yours. Does it relate to anything that we were just talking about. We're going on a different rabbit hole. 00:35:38 Speaker 2: It's in the same realm. 00:35:40 Speaker 1: All conspiracy theories are technically in the same realm. But right, take us down there. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: So this is a question again of how okay, so we start in Egypt. You know, I love Egypt. I love Egyptian culture. I love that we don't know again, this is a very common thing. I just I love that we don't understand completely. But the pyramids, the way they lived their life, their after life, mummification, just everything is fascinating to me. So on this idea of ancient human history and how they did different things. There were vases that were found in Egypt, and this was a couple of years ago, so this isn't brand new stuff. But they were so smooth that engineers knew that they had to study them. They found them and it was like, okay, this is not just a regular vase, right, So they they decided to study how precise they truly were so at first, the first step was they used mechanical devices and so kind of these metal rings that would go around the sides of the vase, and it was showing a zero percent imperfection with mechanical devices. How okay? And these are made out of granite. Okay, So this is a hard rock. This isn't a soft rock that you could sand down. 00:37:04 Speaker 1: This is whittler. 00:37:06 Speaker 2: You can whittle it, just a whittle wittow. So after the mechanical devices and after seeing no imperfections, they used laser technology. So they started mapping them using lasers. Okay, zero percent imperfections using lasers, okay. 00:37:26 Speaker 1: Okay, And refresh me on the history. When were Egyptians around? What year? What decade we're looking at? 00:37:33 Speaker 2: We're looking at three three to four thousand years ago? Okay, I want to say it thirty four hundred. It's funny. I'm obsessed with it. But and that should be a very easy answer. But yeah, so we're three to four thousand years ago, right, which, like when. 00:37:49 Speaker 1: You say it like that doesn't feel like that long ago. But three thousand and four thousand years ago was a long time ago to have something like this exists. How exactly how exactly? 00:38:01 Speaker 2: So after the laser test, they took it one step further and they put these vases in CT scans. Okay, set scans. If you were to take a human hair and set it on its side, they are precise. If you were to split that human hair into a thousand pieces and take one of those strands, that's how precise CT scans are. Okay, it's called a micron micron something, right, So this is the most precise you could possibly be. Right. So in the granite with the CT scans, they found zero percent imperfections. These vases are up to airplane quality. Okay, So the smoothness that needs to be on the panel of an airplane is what these granite vases that we are supposed to believe were made with stone and copper tools have a zero percent imperfection rate. 00:39:12 Speaker 1: And how many vases like this still exist? 00:39:14 Speaker 2: They have hundreds of thousands of these vases. 00:39:19 Speaker 1: So not only are these zero imperfections, and they've been creaty with this, but they've also withstand the test of time, which shows you the quality ye of them. It didn't degrade over the course of history. That's thousands of years old, and they still exist exactly. 00:39:34 Speaker 2: Correction, these artifacts are supposedly from six thousand to three thousand BC. Okay, so we're looking five to eight thousand years ago. 00:39:43 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, still a long time

ago, all right. 00:39:46 Speaker 2: And this is where it gets a little bit crazier. So not only are they that smooth, the pattern they used is based on sacred geometry called radial transversion, meaning that all the measurements of these vases use a harmonic ratio similar to music. So when you start, when you take these vases and you start measuring between different spots, it actually creates an harmonic ratio. Okay. So it's absolutely perfect. 00:40:25 Speaker 1: Okay, it's perfect, and it also is harmonious, which means there was the pattern and plan behind. 00:40:30 Speaker 2: It, yes, exactly. And to take it one step further, okay, this is where it gets kind of crazy and it's above my knowledge base. But it was awesome listening to different podcasts and reading papers on these vases. The measurements are precise enough that the measurements are precise enough that the base unit of the ratio of that harmonic ratio matches the formula for the speed of light. The numbers alien technology. Again, I'm saying how alien technology. 00:41:06 Speaker 1: That is from a different timeline species. 00:41:12 Speaker 2: I just don't understand. Hundreds of thousands of these vases are found. They are all this precise, They all have the same patterning, and some of them are big, some of them are tiny, they all have the same ratio. How, I just don't know. 00:41:31 Speaker 1: Aliens aliens. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it. 00:41:36 Speaker 1: That's my belief. What else makes sense about that? Again, nothing about any of it makes sense. There's the whole purpose of conspiracy theories is we don't know the truth, we don't know what really is. 00:41:45 Speaker 2: But fascinating. 00:41:46 Speaker 1: How do you not question that? And that belief? 00:41:48 Speaker 2: What? How? How? 00:41:51 Speaker 1: And also it is possible that people back then were just absolutely fascinating and so creative and so evolved beyond their times that they found ways to do things. Of course, that is the very generic belief in the system of all beliefs. But who the frick really knows, That's. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: What I always say, Who the frick really knows? 00:42:14 Speaker 1: That's insane? 00:42:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, how much? 00:42:17 Speaker 1: What can we own one of these vases? Is it possible to own one of them? Or are they protected? 00:42:21 Speaker 2: They're all in museums now, can Yeah, they're in museums across the world. 00:42:26 Speaker 1: Now, okay, we need to go find one. You can go visit one of these vases. Yeah, and see that. That's fascinating. How cool. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. 00:42:35 Speaker 1: It's so cool to just think, as I'm sitting here, just to think, I don't know, and maybe I'm so weird for this, and again I can be cuckoo and whatever, but I just think it's so cool that there's so many different possibilities and endless things though we do not understand, and not honestly we will never understand. No, I will probably die one day never having any of the answers of any of this, which is such a shame. I would love to know. I wish that when I'm passing into whatever comes next, that they're like, oh, this was true, and this is also true, or that's false. That's not how that worked. Like somebody finally gives me the answers that you're searching for. Because the whole thing about humans is that we desire answers. We desire to know things and file beliefs and fight for these different histories and knowledge and scientific evidence, and that's what we love to do. But it's just crazy when you get into so many more details of things that there's just truly more questions than there ever are answers. 00:43:37 Speaker 2: I've often thought, if I found a genie, maybe in one of these vases, rubbed the vase. 00:43:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, Aladin, Hey could we go back to a movie. Yeah, something really happened. There's a special person. 00:43:48 Speaker 2: In there exactly. So yeah, if I get a genie and I get three wishes, my initial thought is always I would go back in time to see how the pyramids were built. 00:44:00 Speaker 1: The pyramids have a lot of questions around them. 00:44:02 Speaker 2: What's under their how did they move two tons stones that high up in the sky, and so it would just I think it would answer a lot of questions. Whether there's a spaceship there moving rocks up, or was it just a scaffolding system, or are a lot. 00:44:23 Speaker 1: Of our monuments and things that we believe are these crazy wild structures from history of time that somebody place them there on purpose? Is it somebody from Afar, from the future who came back to do it to protect us later on? There's so many endless possibilities. Now speaking of we're gonna get into my last one. This will be like a little Lucy juicy one that's right here at the end. But and there's a lot of evidence behind this one, and a lot of like research evidence based things. So this leans more on potentially research evidence based conspiracy theory where kids remember being completely differenteople, supporting the idea of possible reincarnation if you will, or just conscious or self subconscious reincarnation. So there was a psychiatrist from the University of Virginia named doctor Ian Stevenson, and he conducted over forty years, three thousand different cases where children remembered their past lives. And he took those children and several hundreds of the cases that he studied, the children were able to verify the names of the people that they were, where they lived, the families that they had. There were even evidence of the real families of specifically where their families would live. They would take them back to those places and they could do nicknames and they could do specifics, and these children obviously had never lived there before they had their own families. Some of them even remembered birthmarks or defects that they had that directly correlated with wounds from a life they had before. And what's

wild, there's a lot of them where it was just a couple of years that they remembered and then they woke up one day and it was all gone. Now that side of the research that he was doing, there wasn't a lot of understanding of why that was happening. But what's crazy is this man has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, in Journal of the American Medical Association. He was studied, practiced research in several hundred cases. He found evidence to support that these kids were not lying and these were kids. You could go on Instagram. I'm not going to play any other videos because they're kids, but you could go on Instagram and search kids reincarnation and there are parents who record their kids talking about different lives that they had. 00:46:51 Speaker 2: I've seen one of them that it's crazy. 00:46:54 Speaker 1: And there I was watching this little girl talk about how she lived in a world that doesn't exist how we know it. She would talk about building. She was like, that wasn't there before. These things didn't exist before, not in the world. And she talked about how she went to this one world, but now she's in this world. And that's what happens to everybody. A kid doesn't just get that over the course of being born to two years old. It doesn't happen. So there has to be evidence of something else that would have these kids having this, And he explored it for forty years. That's wild, and there's so much evidence that supports it. It's crazy. These are real videos. They're not AI. I know we're in an AI time period, but these are real videos, real kids. Their parents coroborate that they've been having these memories, that they have these things that happened. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: And it's just as freaky for the other families too, where a little kid is coming in and knows your name and can recall certain events, and it gives me the he bees. 00:47:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, to think that this is like a It could be a tree answer of your conscious mind. It could be a transfer of energy. It could be reincarnation, which I know a lot of people are so dicey about. It could be any of it. We don't know. We don't know the reasoning behind it. But there is physical cases and evidence that support that this really happens, which is wild to me. Yeah, which also goes to show that again, we do not know everything. If there's evidence, there's somebody who studied this for forty years. He had a whole team dedicated to it that they support it. It is wild. And he was published. He was publishing so many things, so it's not like you'd be like, oh, he was crazy whatever. He was studying the mind and trying to understand this particular form of what was happening to kids, and it always happened to kids, and kids would remember past lives in a particular age bracket. I want to say, they were like two to five, it would happen, and from there then at that point they start to forget it, and they like almost completely forget everything that they we're talking about wild. So there's this whole other world. I just love going down any of these places, any of these rabbit holes, because I again come back to the fact that I do not know a damn thing. I don't and you know what, I get it. We study and we teach things in school, and there's history, and I don't discount any of that, but there's also a whole lot of things that we don't have history on. There's a whole lot of things that people weren't around to record and share later. We only have monuments and creations, and what do you talk about the monoliths, these stone hinge. We have all these things that we attribute to something, But what if there is more history behind them? What if there is more to all of them that we don't understand? And so I love this. I love that you and I both love too question everything. 00:49:58 Speaker 2: Yes, can I close it out with rapid fire? I have a few. 00:50:03 Speaker 1: Give us some rapid fire to close it out. 00:50:05 Speaker 2: If you're still with us at home, write these down and look them up because they're fascinating. Alrighty, So, first one, the Olf Burt swords. They were swords made of steel so pure the technology to make them wasn't even invented for another eight hundred years. 00:50:28 Speaker 1: Okay, time traveler, all right. 00:50:30 Speaker 2: The ancient h blocks of Puma Punka. Okay, so they are perfect granite blocks, perfectly smooth, and they're carved like hes. Okay, blocks of rock cut so precise you would need diamonds or lasers to reproduce them. Okay. There's other rocks and ancient Apocalypse that were supposedly cut with stone. You couldn't even fit a credit card in between the joints of them. Absolutely fascinating, all right, next one San Jama lines in Bolivia. They're large, perfectly straight lines covering twenty two thousand square kilometers carved into the earth three thousand years ago. So they go for kilometers and kilometers and they're perfectly straight lines carved into the earth. 00:51:20 Speaker 1: Why why what did they know that we didn't know exactly? 00:51:24 Speaker 2: All right? 00:51:25 Speaker 1: Is it for something in the future and they did it in the past to protect us in the future. 00:51:29 Speaker 2: And there's other places in the world that have lines like this, these are the biggest. 00:51:33 Speaker 1: But why and why perfectly straight lines? Well? Why what were they doing? Again? What do they know that we don't know exactly? 00:51:41 Speaker 2: Everything? A lot I think, all right, This one's really fun too. It's called the Ancient Genetic disc. It's a stone carving from thousands and thousands of years ago, all right. It has the cycle of human fertilization and fetal development, which would be a visible without modern microscopes. It is a carved stone that shows the fertil fertilization of an egg and the process of creating a baby from what time period, thousands of years ago? 00:52:18 Speaker 1: And so

they figured out how the life happens in a stone, and they carved it. 00:52:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, look up the ancient genetic disc It's crazy, all. 00:52:29 Speaker 1: Right, these are wild my mind, just mind f yes. 00:52:35 Speaker 2: So another ancient text, all right, it's called the Gigas Cotext. It's also known as the Devil's Bible, but we're not getting into that. It's a text estimated if you were to sit down for thirty years and write, NonStop, no sleeping. All right, that's how much text is in this book. All right. If you sat down for thirty years, you would complete this book if you never stopped writing, and the calligraphy never alters. It is perfect calligraphy, same author. Either someone is just the most amazing writer in the entire world, or something funky's going on. 00:53:21 Speaker 1: Or it was created out of technology and it was a way to record a historical thing. Has somebody read it and knows what's the contents of it, so it's all in there. 00:53:29 Speaker 2: Yep, that's insane. And then my last one, this one's fun. It's called the Nampa figurine. Okay. It's a small carved doll and it's smaller than the diameter of a quarter. First off, it's highly detailed for how small that is. Yeah, okay, but it was found while drilling in a level of soil that was two million years old and it was inside the soil. 00:54:02 Speaker 1: Was it a currency, a potential coin that was a concurrency. 00:54:06 Speaker 2: No, it was a small doll. Oh, it was a doll the size of a quarter. 00:54:11 Speaker 1: Oh the side side. 00:54:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's this big. It's highly detailed, and it was found inside soil that's two million years old. Very deep level drilling going on, and they found a figurine. 00:54:27 Speaker 1: That then supports the theory of underground civilizations. Has to because how else. Yeah, obviously you can talk about the science and how the world changes over that course of time. Of course it could have been on the surface level at one point or another. But drilling, nah nine, so many hows and whys and understanding and things that we don't get. 00:54:55 Speaker 2: But it's fascinating. I love it. 00:54:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved walking down this road with you. So you can now take off your tinfoil hat. We have concluded our entertainment services of conspiracy theories, and we still see them by the fact that we do not know any of this to be true and it's all alleged. But also, who the heck knows? 00:55:17 Speaker 2: What did you say? Who the frick knows. 00:55:19 Speaker 1: Who the freak even knows, and I will see them by that for the rest of my life. 00:55:23 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, where are those tinfoil hats? Do some research, have some fun. 00:55:29 Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this, let me babe. I know this episode was a little different than our typical topics, but I think one of the coolest things we can do is constantly be asking questions about the who, the how, the why, the what. It's the beauty of getting to be on this planet, in my opinion. I hope you enjoyed it, whether it was for entertainment purposes or exploring your own research down rabbit holes. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube at web girl Morgan or Instagram at take this Personally for all the content, full interviews, and anything else exciting going on. I'm so happy that you're here. Catch you guys next week. 00:55:59 Speaker 2: Bye. 00:56:00 Speaker 1: Thank