บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Explore Nature with Pass It On Outdoors | Real Wealth Podcast S2:E17

34 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:26,520 Michael Proctor: Wow. Yeah, I didn't realize until today that 35 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,210 there was a big brothers big sisters connection to it. That's 36 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:35,610 where we started. Yep. So I've had three little brothers. And 37 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:39,000 they, when when I got matched with kids to the big brothers 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,700 program, I told them, all we're going to do is hunting fish, 39 00:02:41,730 --> 00:02:44,070 we're not going to movies, we're not making cookies, and we're 40 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:47,430 not sitting around playing video games. We're gonna go hunting 41 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:51,180 and fishing. And that's it. And all three of the kids that I 42 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:54,900 mentored are now avid outdoorsman. And we've seen that 43 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,050 with a lot of the kids, we've got volunteers in our program 44 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:02,370 today. Kenny is one of the coaches for the Trap Team. He 45 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:06,870 was one of the littles in our program, way back when, and it's 46 00:03:06,870 --> 00:03:10,140 really rewarding to see that kind of thing happened. And, of 47 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:12,540 course, that's what the big brothers program is all about is 48 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,980 showing kids that there are avenues, other avenues in life 49 00:03:16,980 --> 00:03:20,160 that they can pursue. And it's it's been really rewarding to 50 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,170 see that. But yeah, we got our start with Big Brothers Big 51 00:03:22,170 --> 00:03:25,890 Sisters. Yeah, that's wild. And that makes so much sense that 52 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:29,460 there was that initial need of how do we get more men involved? 53 00:03:29,850 --> 00:03:33,210 And how do we appeal to the those that we want to attract? 54 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,920 And that that makes a lot of sense is the why it even came up 55 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,970 at all? Yeah, we were we had a lot of fun with it. Yeah, I 56 00:03:41,970 --> 00:03:44,940 would say there's probably a very serendipitous moment in 57 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:47,310 time where the Department of Wildlife and Parks released 58 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:52,230 their first youth upland season. Back in 1999. Yep, way 59 00:03:52,230 --> 00:03:56,070 backwards. Right. So imagine these collective forces and 60 00:03:56,460 --> 00:04:00,090 visionary folks in our our community, leaders at Big 61 00:04:00,090 --> 00:04:02,130 Brothers, Big Sisters, folks in the Department of Wildlife and 62 00:04:02,130 --> 00:04:05,880 Parks. Some folks in the police department here in Wichita, how 63 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,900 do we how do we capitalize on this opportunity? And kind of 64 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:13,470 was the brainchild of let's take kids hunting, why not? You know, 65 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:17,580 we can run our dogs as mentors early before everybody else can 66 00:04:17,580 --> 00:04:19,680 in the season, but also these kids are going to be able to 67 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,590 experience something they've never been able to experience 68 00:04:22,590 --> 00:04:26,310 before. So that was that's always really fun to share about 69 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:29,130 our our start. And then you know, fast forward, Mike was 70 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:32,460 asked to start to program officially and you know, just 71 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:34,830 1000s and 1000s of kids have benefited from that. 72 00:04:36,030 --> 00:04:41,130 Absolutely. Let's talk a little bit about what you're doing with 73 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,920 the organizational growth and then some of the, I guess 74 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,710 approaches you're bringing to how you're growing it how you're 75 00:04:49,710 --> 00:04:54,840 managing it, because really a lot of nonprofits just don't 76 00:04:54,840 --> 00:05:00,750 make it. Okay. And what are you doing that is done Fred, as far 77 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:03,900 as you can tell, that is leading to success in this space? 78 00:05:05,250 --> 00:05:06,180 Mike Christensen: Well, that's a tough one. 79 00:05:08,340 --> 00:05:10,950 We have been around for a long time, like I say, we we spun off 80 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:14,400 from Big Brothers and Big Sisters and oh six. And you 81 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,430 know, most of the support for our program has come from the 82 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:18,330 outdoor community. 83 00:05:19,980 --> 00:05:23,550 So we've been able to, to keep this rolling, we still partner 84 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,890 closely with Big Brothers and Big Sisters, every chance we 85 00:05:25,890 --> 00:05:28,230 get. We took a bunch of kids fishing from the big brothers 86 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:30,420 program here just a couple of weeks ago. 87 00:05:31,890 --> 00:05:33,600 Unknown: But it's but it's all about giving these kids 88 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,660 opportunities. And I think folks in the outdoors just gravitate 89 00:05:36,660 --> 00:05:41,760 to supporting those kinds of efforts. When we took a look at 90 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,900 what was happening with the high school trap shooting, you know, 91 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:49,560 Britney had volunteered for us for several years as as a 92 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,060 mentor, through the big brothers program. And she had expressed 93 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:57,000 interest in getting involved with this. And when I saw things 94 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,750 going with, with the trap programs, it just seemed like a 95 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:04,260 and having been involved in the national recruitment, retention 96 00:06:04,260 --> 00:06:07,350 and reactivation efforts. It just seemed like a natural thing 97 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:10,800 to do these kids all had Hunter Ed, they all had shotguns, but 98 00:06:11,190 --> 00:06:14,640 there wasn't any program focused on giving them opportunities to 99

00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,700 get out and hunt. So I turned that ball over to Brittany. And 100 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:18,600 she took and ran with it. 101 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:21,990 Michael Proctor: So recruitment retention and reactivation. 102 00:06:22,110 --> 00:06:26,580 Right. Brittany, why don't you share a little bit about the our 103 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:28,980 three initiatives that you guys are working on and break that 104 00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:29,280 down? 105 00:06:29,310 --> 00:06:32,910 Yeah. So you kind of touched on the importance of our three 106 00:06:32,940 --> 00:06:36,450 introducing the podcast, have there been generational turnover 107 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:39,750 in participation in the outdoors, whether it be hunting, 108 00:06:40,410 --> 00:06:43,860 fishing, or even shooting sports, right? Baby Boomers are 109 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:48,210 aging up and out of the sport due to age due to limitations. 110 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:52,200 You name it relocating in life, and they historically have 111 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,160 produced children who have not gravitated toward the outdoors. 112 00:06:57,510 --> 00:07:01,080 No particular reason why maybe access maybe funding I mean, 113 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,260 there's no one given answer that fits this whole population. 114 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:07,680 Right. But that kind of started back in the early 2000s of 115 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,890 movement called artery which really was our to morphed into 116 00:07:10,890 --> 00:07:14,610 our three because of the focus, we need to put on recruiting, 117 00:07:14,610 --> 00:07:17,760 retaining and reactivating all of those folks, not just 118 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,790 hunters, not just anglers or target shooters, all of them at 119 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:25,590 once, to kind of backfill that deficit. What that looks like, 120 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:29,250 though, is if we have by the masses, a generational turn, and 121 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:32,760 folks not buying hunting licenses and ammo and firearms, 122 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,430 our country looks very different. Conservation looks 123 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:38,730 very different. And I don't know if that's a, that's an image I 124 00:07:38,730 --> 00:07:42,510 want to see. And we certainly are trying to help combat that 125 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:45,480 by recruiting and retaining kids in the outdoors. 126 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,680 So your husband's a financial adviser? Yes. Yeah. And he also 127 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,050 started a nonprofit. Okay, so does do the three R's carryover 128 00:07:58,050 --> 00:08:00,450 to what he's doing? Or is that totally different? 129 00:08:00,510 --> 00:08:03,810 I would say it's probably different. However, if we want 130 00:08:03,810 --> 00:08:06,870 to talk like financial literacy and sustainability for 131 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:09,990 nonprofits like that is huge. And I don't think many 132 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:13,170 nonprofits talk about the volatility in that space. 133 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:16,380 Everybody loves the mushy stories. I even told you that 134 00:08:16,410 --> 00:08:18,510 before we got started, like, Yeah, let's tell stories, 135 00:08:18,510 --> 00:08:22,380 because there's so many good ones. But I mean, there is a lot 136 00:08:22,380 --> 00:08:25,830 that goes into recruiting new donors, retaining donors, and, 137 00:08:25,860 --> 00:08:28,440 you know, reactivating your lapsed donors, you know, who 138 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,320 used to give to you, but aren't anymore? What's going on? Is 139 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,170 that the economy we're in? Is it how we're marketing, you know, 140 00:08:34,170 --> 00:08:37,320 to them and what we're doing and how do we go find new folks to 141 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,170 come on board and support us? So there's, there's a lot of that 142 00:08:40,170 --> 00:08:44,040 that certainly correlates a nonprofit to nonprofit in our 143 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,850 three space. 144 00:08:45,660 --> 00:08:51,270 Okay. Is this a transferable skill? The are three space for 145 00:08:51,270 --> 00:08:54,600 other nonprofits? Or is it mainly just get? So So are 146 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,900 three? So I understand that recruiting, retaining and 147 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:02,550 reactivating? Is that something all of them should be doing? 148 00:09:03,779 --> 00:09:07,619 Well, I think we can certainly take it and apply it to all of 149 00:09:07,619 --> 00:09:11,609 our missions, right? I would say it's specifically coined started 150 00:09:11,609 --> 00:09:16,259 in the outdoor industry, right. But if you were to think about 151 00:09:16,259 --> 00:09:19,469 who were beacons and your mission, right, what's your 152 00:09:19,469 --> 00:09:22,499 actual effort? You should certainly be looking at those 153 00:09:22,499 --> 00:09:24,989 things. You know, what kids are we serving? If you're serving 154 00:09:24,989 --> 00:09:27,239 kids, what clients are you working with? Are there 155 00:09:27,239 --> 00:09:29,669 different ones you need to be onboarding? You know, can you 156 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:33,119 serve the ones you are serving better? I think you can probably 157 00:09:33,119 --> 00:09:36,389 apply it to a lot of the work. All of us do. 158 00:09:36,539 --> 00:09:39,929 pretty universal. Let's talk about the growth you're 159 00:09:39,929 --> 00:09:43,289 experiencing, because it's a lot more than I would have ever 160 00:09:43,289 --> 00:09:46,859 anticipated to hear about. And it's not just happening here in 161 00:09:46,859 --> 00:09:47,489 Kansas. 162 00:09:48,629 --> 00:09:52,019 Unknown: Right has been really, really exciting to me. And when 163 00:09:52,019 --> 00:09:54,809 I when I first started looking at what was going on with 164 00:09:54,809 --> 00:09:57,839 trapshooting I mean nationwide is just exploding and high 165 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:01,589

schools across the country. And I Well, guys, this is a this is 166 00:10:01,589 --> 00:10:04,649 an area where we could recruit kids. And I was basically just 167 00:10:04,649 --> 00:10:09,029 looking at Kansas at that time. Brittany hired on in the first 168 00:10:09,029 --> 00:10:12,899 year, she spent a lot of time getting into all the trap teams 169 00:10:12,899 --> 00:10:17,249 in Kansas. And we she did organize 59 activities that 170 00:10:17,249 --> 00:10:22,829 fall. And the next year we did 127. And the next year, we 171 00:10:22,829 --> 00:10:27,359 brought some other coordinators on board, and we did 235 events. 172 00:10:27,959 --> 00:10:33,209 And we expanded to Iowa. And we did over 500 events last year. 173 00:10:33,809 --> 00:10:37,199 And now we've just signed a contract with the Wisconsin DNR 174 00:10:37,259 --> 00:10:40,529 and hiring a program coordinator up there. I mean, we're looking 175 00:10:40,529 --> 00:10:44,819 at somewhere north of 600 events this year and, and continuing to 176 00:10:44,819 --> 00:10:47,189 grow in the future. We're starting to, we're starting to 177 00:10:47,189 --> 00:10:50,879 get attention from other wildlife agencies across the 178 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:53,159 country. They're everybody's looking for how they're going to 179 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:55,829 address our three and how do we recruit and retain and 180 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:59,729 reactivate new hunters? We're just one piece of that puzzle. 181 00:11:00,239 --> 00:11:02,759 There are other groups that are looking at how do we recruit 182 00:11:02,939 --> 00:11:07,409 adults? How do we how do we find kids, the millennials and the 183 00:11:07,409 --> 00:11:10,619 Gen Xers, and how do we get them involved. And that's different 184 00:11:10,619 --> 00:11:12,869 from what we're doing because we're focused strictly on kids 185 00:11:12,869 --> 00:11:15,419 in high school and college age and giving them opportunities. 186 00:11:16,139 --> 00:11:20,069 But Britain has just done an outstanding job of building up 187 00:11:20,099 --> 00:11:23,009 what we've got going and putting the processes in place and 188 00:11:23,669 --> 00:11:27,239 building the infrastructure so that we can take this and scale 189 00:11:27,239 --> 00:11:30,119 it and replicate it to other other states and areas. 190 00:11:33,090 --> 00:11:34,620 Michael Proctor: Are you going to keep doubling like that? 191 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,210 Unknown: I don't know that we can keep doubling, but I don't 192 00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:43,770 see any, any slowdown in the growth. This year, we're gonna 193 00:11:43,770 --> 00:11:46,950 go from five to six, maybe 700. So we're not going to quite 194 00:11:46,950 --> 00:11:50,100 double this year. But we haven't had any new coordinators until 195 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:54,630 just now we're just getting started in Wisconsin. But we're 196 00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:57,390 hoping to move into some other states over the next few years, 197 00:11:57,390 --> 00:11:59,490 we got a couple of states that have expressed interest in 198 00:11:59,790 --> 00:12:02,850 having a start our program there. But that all comes down 199 00:12:02,850 --> 00:12:05,010 to funding because we have to pay for a coordinator and we 200 00:12:05,010 --> 00:12:09,780 have to pay for these events do all this work. So it's all a 201 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:12,150 dollars and cents thing just like every other businesses, 202 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:15,059 Michael Proctor: well, are you getting partnership from the 203 00:12:15,059 --> 00:12:18,839 states on helping with overhead and program coordination? 204 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,860 Yeah, so that's gonna work very different state to state. You 205 00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:25,170 know, just speaking out of Kansas level, we don't get 206 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,330 funding from the Department of Wildlife and Parks. And that's 207 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:31,050 okay. A lot of that is because of limitations and what money 208 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:34,890 they do have to give. If you look at places like Iowa, they 209 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:37,890 have maybe a little bit more funding to give, so we get some 210 00:12:37,890 --> 00:12:41,520 funding from them. If you look at places like Wisconsin, they 211 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,450 have a lot of PR dollars, to steward to folks like us and 212 00:12:45,450 --> 00:12:48,450 other individuals who are trying to put program on the ground to 213 00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:52,080 make a difference in the outdoors. So we do get, I would 214 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,840 say more substantial funding from some of these states that 215 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,510 have a more vibrant hunting and fishing target shooting 216 00:12:57,510 --> 00:13:01,500 population across their, across their state individually. And 217 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:05,220 that kind of looks differently to you know, there's been a 218 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:07,800 nonprofit, you know, we're used to writing grants, you know, 219 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,860 pitching our, our mission and asking for corporate sponsor, 220 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:13,620 you know, for DNR situations, which is Department of Natural 221 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:17,670 Resources. For those who don't know, we put a bid in, which is 222 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:20,490 basically like, hey, we want this much money, here's what 223 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:23,160 we're going to do with it. And they just say, Here you go, if 224 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,920 you're awarded, which is pretty wild to us, because it's never 225 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,390 really come that easy. But it just goes to show, you know what 226 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:33,180 the scalability of our program could look like in each state, 227 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:36,930 and how much value you know, people and the DNR state 228 00:13:36,930 --> 00:13:38,460 agencies are putting on that. 229 00:13:39,809 -->

00:13:44,849 Yeah, and on that note, I was at a startup tech Kansas, I think, 230 00:13:44,849 --> 00:13:47,849 is what it was called conference yesterday. And it was really 231 00:13:47,849 --> 00:13:50,009 interesting, where they're talking about, we're talking 232 00:13:50,009 --> 00:13:55,499 about financing and, and there's a piece here of it makes sense 233 00:13:55,499 --> 00:13:58,079 to start off with a little bit of money and grow it organically 234 00:13:58,109 --> 00:14:01,109 so you can figure out what works, what doesn't work, and 235 00:14:01,469 --> 00:14:06,089 not just wasting resources. So that's legit, but it's really, 236 00:14:06,329 --> 00:14:08,459 it's got to feel nice to actually get the money when you 237 00:14:08,459 --> 00:14:11,879 asked for it. This is this is a lot easier than I thought it was 238 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:12,359 gonna be 239 00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:15,809 Unknown: yes or no, when we first started way back in oh 240 00:14:15,809 --> 00:14:18,539 two, the National Shooting Sports Foundation has stepped up 241 00:14:18,539 --> 00:14:20,729 with a huge grant to get started with Big Brothers and Big 242 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:25,289 Sisters. It hasn't been quite that easy since then, but you 243 00:14:25,289 --> 00:14:27,989 know, we're seeing more folks stepping up to the plate and 244 00:14:27,989 --> 00:14:31,229 we're hoping to get more corporate sponsorships and and 245 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:37,439 make this thing go you know, it takes roughly about $125,000 to 246 00:14:37,439 --> 00:14:43,559 fund a coordinator in a given state. So that's our goal. And 247 00:14:43,859 --> 00:14:46,979 we have some parameters we can say a coordinator can do X 248 00:14:46,979 --> 00:14:51,509 number of events a year and so the math is pretty simple. You 249 00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:54,599 know, give me 125,000 And we can do another coordinator and and 250 00:14:54,599 --> 00:14:57,779 we can put on this many more events and get many more kids 251 00:14:57,779 --> 00:14:58,349 outdoors. 252 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:03,060 Michael Proctor: Okay, Oh, what's the economic cost to get 253 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:06,840 one more kid out there who wouldn't have been able to go 254 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,080 on? 255 00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:13,619 Unknown: I think we're averaging about $200 per event per kid. 256 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:18,149 Okay, so to get a kid outdoors, and that's including insurance 257 00:15:18,149 --> 00:15:22,319 and, and the staff time and everything that's involved, but 258 00:15:22,319 --> 00:15:24,719 it costs us about $200 to get a kid in the field. 259 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,420 Michael Proctor: Yeah, there's a lot of backlogged information 260 00:15:27,420 --> 00:15:30,900 there. So as a program and how we operate, we have these great 261 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:33,420 folks called program coordinators on the ground who 262 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:37,590 are doing the brute force of our grassroots effort, right? They 263 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:40,800 are connecting with landowners, they're finding kids, whether it 264 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,220 be through shooting sports teams, whether it be through for 265 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:47,490 age groups, youth groups, you name it, there's kids out there 266 00:15:47,490 --> 00:15:50,790 who are 11 years of age and hunting, our coordinators are 267 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:53,820 seeking them out actively, because that's who we should 268 00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:56,010 serve. That's who we want to serve. And then they're also 269 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:58,440 finding people like you, Mike, who are passionate about the 270 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,500 outdoors, who want to see their kids get involved in equipping 271 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:05,220 them, empowering them to become mentors for us. So there's a lot 272 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:07,590 of time that goes into that. But then there's also the back end 273 00:16:07,830 --> 00:16:10,440 liability insurance. So that's pretty important, right? Like, 274 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,410 we're not going to program without that. We have a CRM 275 00:16:13,410 --> 00:16:16,260 system where we can put all these things together to where 276 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:18,810 it becomes a uniform, streamlined process. So these 277 00:16:18,810 --> 00:16:21,390 kids can sign up efficiently, their parents know what's going 278 00:16:21,390 --> 00:16:24,180 on. Everybody's in communication. So all of these 279 00:16:24,180 --> 00:16:28,020 events, we plan get put on the ground without hitch and we 280 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:30,540 there's just no hiccups along the way we're not stumbling 281 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,410 through planning one event, and that's what allows us to plan 282 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:37,620 multiple events. So I mean, if you'd asked ask a lot of other 283 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:40,560 folks, they probably say $200 is pretty expensive per kid per 284 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,430 hunt. If you go out there and hunt as an adult, that's you're 285 00:16:44,430 --> 00:16:48,810 probably gonna pay $500. Right? Like, if I go book a preserve 286 00:16:48,810 --> 00:16:52,890 hunting somewhere, I'll probably pay $500 for one person, maybe 287 00:16:52,890 --> 00:16:57,720 more. Maybe a lot more. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that $200 mark is 288 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,750 pretty realistic, especially when we're providing it for free 289 00:17:00,750 --> 00:17:05,250 for them. And when I say free by fundraising, to be able to 290 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:06,870 provide that for free to them, 291 00:17:06,930 --> 00:17:08,940 Unknown: right. And that's one of the unique things about our 292 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:11,400 program is that we don't charge these kids to participate at 293 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,360 all. We asked them to buy their licenses and fees, but that's 294 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:20,010 about it. You know, this next weekend

is the pre ret 295 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:24,330 antlerless hunt in Kansas. And I think we have upwards of 70 296 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:28,440 different deer hunts set up for kids across Kansas. So we're 297 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,200 going to have and again, we're able to do that, because we got 298 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,280 program coordinators, and we've got the CRM system and the 299 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,860 technology in place that lets us do that efficiently. 300 00:17:41,010 --> 00:17:43,260 Michael Proctor: Yeah, I can't even imagine what that 301 00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:46,830 conversation initially may have been, like have with the 302 00:17:46,830 --> 00:17:51,510 insurance company. So you're gonna have kids with guns that 303 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:57,780 are 1112 13, you know, walk in a night or in the door, get set 304 00:17:57,780 --> 00:17:58,290 up, go 305 00:17:58,289 --> 00:18:00,059 finish moving targets, 306 00:18:00,510 --> 00:18:03,600 they must have had a hard time getting their head around that. 307 00:18:03,899 --> 00:18:06,029 Unknown: It took me about six months to find anybody that 308 00:18:06,029 --> 00:18:06,659 would write Apollo. 309 00:18:09,390 --> 00:18:11,370 Michael Proctor: And I think we can comfortably say every time 310 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:13,560 we get an email from our company, we can hold our breath 311 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,880 like oh, no, what is this? 312 00:18:16,109 --> 00:18:18,449 Yeah, but that is something that could take the whole program 313 00:18:18,449 --> 00:18:22,229 down is certainly one that losses when that situation. 314 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:29,340 Unknown: But over 21 plus years, we've had no problems. No, no 315 00:18:29,340 --> 00:18:33,330 issues, it's been out again, kids in the field with the 316 00:18:33,330 --> 00:18:36,720 mentors is probably the safest thing out there. You know, if 317 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,430 you look at the trap shooting programs, they have 1000s 1000s 318 00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:45,780 of kids shooting, and there's no accidents, there's no injuries. 319 00:18:45,780 --> 00:18:47,910 There's not a sprained ankle, there's not a blown knee, 320 00:18:47,910 --> 00:18:50,460 there's not a concussion. There's nothing like you have 321 00:18:50,460 --> 00:18:54,510 with traditional high school sports, no injuries at all, with 322 00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:57,810 the shooting sports. And we're working really hard to make sure 323 00:18:57,810 --> 00:19:00,150 that we do that with the hunting side of things as well. It's 324 00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:00,930 going very good. 325 00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:03,660 Michael Proctor: Yeah. I always like to tell people it's, you 326 00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:07,350 know, talking about youth and guns, right. Like that's always 327 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:12,180 in the headlines. How do we not allow access to kids to 328 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:14,820 firearms? And I think that's kind of a disservice. Right?

329 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,820 Because it's not if they're going to be around firearms, 330 00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:20,580 it's when they will be around a firearm in their life. How do 331 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:25,620 they feel responsible and educated to remove themselves 332 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:29,340 from a situation go report it to somebody else and or take an 333 00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:32,400 active role? You know, and I love that about our kids on 334 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,340 Tina's they can call their kids out who they're hunting with, 335 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:38,460 hey, but your muzzle is not pointed in a safe direction. I 336 00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:41,700 don't like it. So can you please fix it or I'm going to go tell 337 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:44,970 this mentor. Better yet the mentors are actively overseeing 338 00:19:44,970 --> 00:19:47,700 all these activities to where they can say hey, like we're not 339 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,980 getting on you to be mean or getting I need to be safe, 340 00:19:50,370 --> 00:19:52,740 because we want you to enjoy this for the rest of your life 341 00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:56,070 and one false move can take that away from you and a lot of 342 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:59,640 others and that's just not met. Okay? So the responsibility word 343 00:19:59,670 --> 00:20:03,210 pass. Seeing onto this generation is, it's above and 344 00:20:03,210 --> 00:20:06,090 beyond just like showing them how to work a firearm, right? 345 00:20:06,090 --> 00:20:09,900 Like they're truly taking the weight of that opportunity and 346 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,920 knowing and executing that they are the only one responsible for 347 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,920 it. That's pretty big for a 12 year old. I mean, you've got 348 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,570 boys that around my age, right? Yeah, and they do, they're a 349 00:20:21,570 --> 00:20:25,260 great, great example of, of what it looks like, you know, they 350 00:20:25,260 --> 00:20:27,390 could be horsing around and having fun, but the moment they 351 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:30,030 put that gun in their hand, they are dialed in, they know. 352 00:20:31,410 --> 00:20:36,150 Right, and and I think maybe an analogy is you can always have 353 00:20:37,260 --> 00:20:40,920 bad actors or, you know, whether we're talking about youth or 354 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,610 adults or whatever. But it always comes down to the person 355 00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:47,970 using it, what they're trained in, what their intentions are. 356 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:52,920 And in I know that every time I've seen the kids, my boys, 357 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:57,960 especially with the mentors, or the whoever's teaching them how 358 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,350 to use, how to target shoot, how, how to whatever safety's 359 00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:05,670 number one, and, and so that's that's a huge reassurance of 360 00:21:05,670 --> 00:21:09,060 like, hey, you've been around long enough to see a here's 361 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:12,330 here's how this can get unsafe. Let's stay safe, 362 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:16,380 right? Yeah, we say the words muzzle action trigger, often, 363 00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:19,590 right? Where is your muzzle pointed is your action open, and 364 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:21,720 your finger should never be on the trigger until you're ready 365 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,230 to either break a target or shoot at your target, whether it 366 00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:29,520 be a deer or a pheasant, whatever it might be. And quite 367 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,770 frankly, if you're doing all those things, right, there will 368 00:21:31,770 --> 00:21:35,430 be no accidents. Right? There is no room for accidents if you're 369 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:36,120 doing that, right. 370 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:43,470 Absolutely. Okay, so let's talk a little bit about maybe some of 371 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:47,790 the lessons learned or or learning that has happened, 372 00:21:47,970 --> 00:21:53,370 whether it's related to the nonprofit or just personally 373 00:21:53,370 --> 00:21:55,680 like what are some life lessons you guys have learned along the 374 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:55,950 way? 375 00:21:57,930 --> 00:21:59,820 I feel like you could run out a whole bunch of different 376 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:03,570 avenues. With this one, I mean, I'll share just some personal 377 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:06,480 experiences with being a mentor. So Mike mentioned, I got 378 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,930 involved back in 2015. So I think I was 21 at the time, 379 00:22:09,930 --> 00:22:13,290 pretty green. Still in college, you know, taking glasses playing 380 00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:15,870 softball in a very different stage of life than I have now. 381 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Certainly, but I think I underestimated the value in 382 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,700 serving kids at that time. In my life. I always loved being 383 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:26,400 around kids, I loved organizations, I serve kids, I 384 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,250 even you know, cast that vision, like I'd love to just be part of 385 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,340 an organization that worked with kids. So certainly had that in 386 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:35,580 my blood. You know, I think God put that on my heart. But the 387 00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:37,890 moment you start really working with kids in the outdoors, 388 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,380 something really cool happens. And I don't know if I can give 389 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:45,540 it justice or do it justice and explain it. But these kids just 390 00:22:45,570 --> 00:22:49,050 they unplug, they look to you. And like all of a sudden 391 00:22:49,050 --> 00:22:52,050 everything that they're worried about doing without home just 392 00:22:52,050 --> 00:22:55,920 falls away. And they're just dialed in. I don't know how many 393 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,480 times we've been in a blind or

walking to a location behind and 394 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,270 there's, you know, tree limbs rubbing together and kids are 395 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:06,750 freaking out because they've never heard that before. Right? 396 00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:09,240 Or they hear something scurrying across the ground. And they 397 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,730 think who is that Chewbacca coming through the woods? 398 00:23:11,730 --> 00:23:16,020 Jokingly I'm like, no, that's just wildlife. And it's natural. 399 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:18,660 And all of a sudden, you just realize the privileges, you 400 00:23:18,660 --> 00:23:21,840 know, I've certainly been steward in life, and how often 401 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,620 those get misplaced on these kids. And so it just it's a 402 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:29,070 great privilege to be able to do that. And I think when we 403 00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,710 finally stepped out of our box of being uncomfortable, right? 404 00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:35,550 Like, how are we qualified to mentor, like, I didn't take a 405 00:23:35,550 --> 00:23:38,220 class on it. I didn't go to I didn't go to school for it. 406 00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:42,630 Like, I had some mentors in my life at a young age, but I 407 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:45,300 couldn't really remember them teaching me this is the playbook 408 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:48,990 for you know, a mentor and a new child. You just have to try it. 409 00:23:49,230 --> 00:23:51,450 And all of a sudden you find yourself in these positions 410 00:23:51,450 --> 00:23:54,030 where that kiddos mentoring you pretty drastically in life, 411 00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:57,720 right? teaching you about things that actually matter. Showing 412 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,750 you how to look at worldly problems that you thought are 413 00:24:00,750 --> 00:24:03,690 one way but we're completely different, right? So I think 414 00:24:03,690 --> 00:24:07,140 that's probably one of the best things I've learned is just 415 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:10,440 being able to be an active listener, and mentorship and 416 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:13,980 realizing what those kids can actually do for us. That's 417 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:14,730 pretty powerful. 418 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,160 So who's been the biggest mentor in your 419 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,810 life? Well, this guy right here for sure. Mike Krishnan said 420 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,370 absolutely. I mean and so this is funny there's a Facebook post 421 00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:29,370 that always pops up right about this time of year, maybe a month 422 00:24:29,370 --> 00:24:33,690 ago. I have mentored one of the first times with him and I 423 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,870 posted on Facebook man I love this program. I would love to do 424 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:39,690 this in the future if I could do this full time I would but truly 425 00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:42,240 like that that set the ball in motion for me like I said, I 426 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,170 love working with kids. I love the space. And it just took 427 00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:49,110 someone like Mike to say will come along with me. You and 428 00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:51,090 that's what it was. I was interning at Big Brothers Big 429 00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:55,050 Sisters at the time. Not really giving back to a lot of kids. I 430 00:24:55,050 --> 00:24:57,780 was matched at the time, but that was about it. He goes well 431 00:24:57,810 --> 00:24:59,970 why don't you come take some kids honey I need some more lady 432 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,910 is to take these young girls out. So I thought well, okay, I 433 00:25:02,910 --> 00:25:06,900 can try that. And I mean drastically changes a projection 434 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,100 of my life. Certainly. 435 00:25:09,569 --> 00:25:12,989 Wow. Yeah. Okay. Mike, 436 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,460 go and follow that up, Mike. 437 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,120 Unknown: Well, it was it was really interesting. Yeah. When 438 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:23,310 I, when I took the job with Big Brothers Big Sisters. I really 439 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:25,800 didn't know much about them. The first hunt that we did with Big 440 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Brothers Big Sisters in Oh 999. Rather, I had a neighbor that 441 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000 said, Hey, you're involved with these outdoor groups. Can you 442 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,460 take can you find some volunteers to take some kids out 443 00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:38,160 on the first upland season they had for youth in Kansas, and I 444 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,970 said, sure, but I didn't know anything about Big Brothers Big 445 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:45,270 Sisters. I've never worked with kids, underprivileged like that 446 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:47,760 before, because I raised two boys, they went to scouts, they 447 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 went to soccer, they were in karate, and all those kinds of 448 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,810 things. But I never had any interaction with kids, that 449 00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:57,000 we're being served by organizations like Big Brothers 450 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,930 and Big Sisters. And when we did our first hunt, it was an upland 451 00:26:00,930 --> 00:26:05,220 hunt. And we took some kids out pheasant hunting. And I figured 452 00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:08,910 these 1314 year old kids are going to walk our tail off, 453 00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:12,210 we're not going to be able to keep up. But what was shocking, 454 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:17,100 we walk to fields, and these kids were physically done. I 455 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,070 mean, they, they couldn't go to another field. I was walking 456 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:23,610 along with this one young man. He was a little pudgy. But he 457 00:26:23,610 --> 00:26:26,850 wasn't, you know, wasn't fatter. He hit me just a little on the 458 00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:31,980 pudgy side, little shape. And he's read in the face, and

he's 459 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:35,220 huffing and puffing. And I said, Do you want me to carry your gun 460 00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:38,970 for you? And he said, Oh, yeah, please. But, but the thing that 461 00:26:38,970 --> 00:26:41,610 struck me when we got done with the hunt, and we were talking 462 00:26:41,610 --> 00:26:43,980 about it, and everybody was talking about the birds, they 463 00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:46,950 shot and everything. Every one of those kids wanted to go 464 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:50,490 again. They were physically exhausted, and they couldn't 465 00:26:50,490 --> 00:26:53,940 wait to go again, that really kind of struck things where 466 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:56,370 there might be something to this. This was this was pretty 467 00:26:56,370 --> 00:26:56,760 cool. 468 00:26:57,210 --> 00:26:59,820 Michael Proctor: Yeah, it goes to show like setting up events 469 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:02,520 for kids. I feel like we all have to think we have to have 470 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,210 these unrealistic expectations and the standards of shooting a 471 00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:10,260 trophy buck or hitting a bag limit of pheasants. They just 472 00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:13,470 simply want an invitation and the opportunity to ask questions 473 00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:16,230 and experience something they've never experienced before. 474 00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:18,120 Because that's what happens every time you go outdoors. I 475 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,640 don't care how many times you've been you learn something new, 476 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,450 you see something new every time you go. And so imagine it being 477 00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:28,200 such a green kid. Oh, going out there. Yeah, I mean, you can see 478 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,950 their heads explode sometimes like wow, I had no idea that was 479 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:35,100 a thing, I had no idea my hips would be burning so badly trying 480 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,920 to trunk through this, this thick grass, you know, upland 481 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,530 hunting, I can't carry my gun anymore. My arms are tired. 482 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:44,610 They've just never experienced that before. But the important 483 00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:47,220 thing there is that they just have an invitation to go, you 484 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:48,450 have the opportunity to go. 485 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:54,750 Unknown: It's really fun to watch these kids when you when 486 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:58,980 you put the put a gun in a kid's hand. That's not been around 487 00:27:58,980 --> 00:28:03,480 guns very much the the self confidence that it builds in 488 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,390 those kids and the responsibility that they start 489 00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:11,460 to feel, you can see the change just right then and there. But 490 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:16,320 it's really amazing. Kids are are capable, a lot more than 491 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,510 what I think a lot of people give them credit for being able 492 00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:22,860 to do. And again, when you put a gun in a kid's hand, especially 493 00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:26,130 in today's society, where guns kind of have a four letter word 494 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:31,110 meaning to them. It it's a big thing for these kids. I'm 495 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:34,110 putting a gun in this kid's hand, and I'm trusting him not 496 00:28:34,110 --> 00:28:37,830 to shoot me. And I mean, that's a big thing for kids. And the 497 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:40,800 responsibility they take in this in the self confidence they come 498 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,860 away from that with really translates into a lot of other 499 00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:46,200 things in their life and makes makes things better for them. 500 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,160 They walk into school the next day. And look what I did. Look 501 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,430 what I did. Pretty is pretty special stuff. Yeah. 502 00:28:54,810 --> 00:28:58,020 Michael Proctor: So do you think it has more to do with who's 503 00:28:58,020 --> 00:29:02,820 putting the gun in their hand? Or the trust that is required to 504 00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:03,810 put the gun in their hand? 505 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,130 Unknown: I think that a lot of both. I mean, certainly with our 506 00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:12,300 program. We're working with mentors who are loved the 507 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:15,000 outdoors and that kind of thing there. That's a certain type of 508 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,030 individual that's that's working with these kids. But just 509 00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:20,910 putting a gun in their hands and trusting them with they're going 510 00:29:20,910 --> 00:29:23,370 to be safe with that. That's a big thing for kids. 511 00:29:23,879 --> 00:29:26,819 Michael Proctor: Yeah. You mean You mean I can be trusted to be 512 00:29:26,819 --> 00:29:28,349 responsible? Right. 513 00:29:28,379 --> 00:29:30,389 Unknown: Yeah. I mean, in today's society, there's there's 514 00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:32,819 not enough of that. I don't think No, there's not enough of 515 00:29:32,819 --> 00:29:36,299 that. I'm, I'm on the older side of things. So things were 516 00:29:36,299 --> 00:29:39,419 different when I was growing up, but I don't think kids accept 517 00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:42,569 the same type of responsibility or have the opportunity to 518 00:29:42,569 --> 00:29:44,999 accept the same type of responsibility that I did when I 519 00:29:44,999 --> 00:29:47,999 was a kid. I was driving a tractor when I was 12 years old 520 00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:52,589 plowing field. You don't see that as much today. And that 521 00:29:52,649 --> 00:29:55,229 it's a lot of responsibility that you guys trusted me to 522 00:29:55,229 --> 00:29:56,189 plant his crop. 523 00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:59,310 Michael Proctor: Yeah. And just then the ownership and pride 524 00:29:59,310 --> 00:30:03,510 that comes along Along with

taking that first step, right? I 525 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:05,790 don't know if you've ever been beside a kid who's ever shot 526 00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:09,240 their first deer or shot their first pheasant and that dog 527 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,660 brings it back. I mean, truly the It's electric. They're just 528 00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:16,710 like vibrating with energy of positivity. And you can you 529 00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:20,040 know, the moment you get back in the truck, they are, they are on 530 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,830 their phones, they are Snapchatting. They're FaceTiming 531 00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:25,470 their parents look what I did, look what I'm bringing home. And 532 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,180 that confidence I don't think can be given to them any other 533 00:30:30,180 --> 00:30:33,630 way than just allowing them the chance to go fail, but also 534 00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:38,580 learn and then find success. And it's pretty special. Mike has a 535 00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:40,920 really good story, I'm going to make him tell it because I think 536 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,590 it's important. I think it's really important for people to 537 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:48,600 hear. And I think it also turns the table on hunting can be seen 538 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,150 as a pretty lucrative sport, right? So we talked about 539 00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:53,250 disposable income, if you don't have it, you're probably not 540 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:55,440 going to be hunting lunch, right? If you do, you could 541 00:30:55,950 --> 00:31:00,690 spend a pretty good penny in this sport, whether it's been on 542 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,350 buying licenses, firearms, ammo, you know, paying outfitters to 543 00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:07,410 take you across country, right? Like, you can spend as much as 544 00:31:07,410 --> 00:31:12,360 you want to. But for some of these kids, just the opportunity 545 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,260 to put protein in their freezer is pretty profound. And Mike has 546 00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:19,530 a really good story about that. And I want him to tell it 547 00:31:19,530 --> 00:31:23,010 because it's really important, I think, really paints a landscape 548 00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:26,850 to the main reason why we need this program is it's not about 549 00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:30,240 shooting a trophy buck. It's truly about teaching principle 550 00:31:30,270 --> 00:31:31,680 and responsibility. 551 00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:36,810 Unknown: All right. And I'll probably my voice will probably 552 00:31:36,810 --> 00:31:41,790 break as I tell this because it happens every time I do. But I 553 00:31:41,790 --> 00:31:44,250 had a guy when I was working at Big brothers had a guy called me 554 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:48,750 in. And he had heard me on a radio show, talking about our 555 00:31:48,750 --> 00:31:53,370 program. And he called up and he said, Mike, I heard that your 556 00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:56,040 story about what you're doing. And he said God spoke to me and 557 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,840 said I needed to get involved. And I haven't had a lot of folks 558 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,070 that I've met that God talk to you like that. So I didn't 559 00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:10,680 bother calling him back. But he was pretty persistent and sent 560 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,210 me an email and, and finally got me on the phone and and because 561 00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:17,040 I was working through Big Brothers and Big Sisters. I 562 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,940 said, Okay, listen, he lived up into Kansas City. I said, go to 563 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:24,690 the big brothers office, sign up as a mentor, and they'll match 564 00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:28,320 you up with a kid and you can go hunting. And big brothers does a 565 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440 great job of screening all their volunteers. So I thought, if 566 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,680 this guy is a bit on the loony side, then getting screened out 567 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,210 we wouldn't have to worry about so. But he calls me up later and 568 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:44,610 he gets matched with a little kid named George. And Bruce was 569 00:32:44,610 --> 00:32:48,990 the guy that called me in. Bruce took this kid on every hunting 570 00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:51,840 opportunity that I provided. I mean, he lived up in the Kansas 571 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,380 City area, he took him on to pheasant hunts in Abilene. We 572 00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:58,440 did a pheasant hunt in Garden City, he drove across the state 573 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,890 to take this get on a pheasant hunt. And I mean every 574 00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:06,480 opportunity that I had, Bruce was signing up George floor. And 575 00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:12,360 shortly after they had been matched for a while. George came 576 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:19,230 home with report cards. And it said the principal said we don't 577 00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:22,860 know George anymore. George has completely changed the 578 00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:26,820 competence, the self assuredness that he was showing in school. 579 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,560 It was a different kid. And Bruce belong to a hunting club 580 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,490 up there and they had a lease and and they had this big nine 581 00:33:35,490 --> 00:33:40,710 point buck on trail camera. And the guys had leased that they 582 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:43,410 tried archery, they tried muzzleloader. They tried all. 583 00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:48,690 Nobody had managed to harvest that buck. And Bruce asked if 584 00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:52,290 it's okay if he took George out and they said yeah, and by the 585 00:33:52,290 --> 00:33:54,660 way, because he was just going to harvest the dough. You just 586 00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:57,420 wouldn't. You know, most of the hunts we do for deer we just for 587 00:33:57,420 --> 00:34:01,830 our harvesting dose. But they said it's that big

Brett comes 588 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:06,540 out you have George take a shot at it. Well, shears world that 589 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:12,210 morning. This big buck comes out and George harvested. So it was 590 00:34:12,210 --> 00:34:15,390 a big deal. I mean, everybody was all excited about and they 591 00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:19,260 went back and they they Georgia didn't have his family didn't 592 00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:22,500 have the wherewithal to take it to a processor. So Bruce took it 593 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,230 his house and they they butchered the deer and they were 594 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:29,010 grinding up some of the meat in the burger and George asked him 595 00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:29,430 he said 596 00:34:33,389 --> 00:34:34,829 Michael Proctor: well, it's a powerful story. 597 00:34:35,429 --> 00:34:36,599 Unknown: I'll let you finish it. 598 00:34:37,799 --> 00:34:40,019 Michael Proctor: Oh, no, you gotta finish it. Oh, God. 599 00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:43,590 Mike Christensen: The kid says, Would this be good in Hamburger 600 00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:49,680 Helper? And Bruce said Well, yeah, be great. kid said, Well, 601 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,260 that's. That'd be really good. He said we haven't. We've been 602 00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:54,990 eating hamburger helper for months and haven't had any meat 603 00:34:54,990 --> 00:34:58,080 to put in it. I mean, it's, yeah. 604 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:02,340 Michael Proctor: Wow. In Korea. doubly impactful, I mean, the 605 00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:05,250 the cracking in your voice and the emotion there is is 606 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,780 authentic, you know, and it's it's just the reality that so 607 00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:14,760 many of the the these kids face in living in poverty, right is 608 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,370 that you know you and I might don't have to worry about Mike 609 00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:19,830 as well don't have to worry about we have chicken at home, 610 00:35:19,830 --> 00:35:23,430 we have hamburger at home, we have resources to go to the 611 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:27,030 store, if we don't have that at home to cook for the evening. A 612 00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:29,640 lot of these kids love these families just don't, I mean, 613 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:32,970 they just don't have the access to the income to go purchase it. 614 00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:35,730 And they certainly don't have the experiences and 615 00:35:35,730 --> 00:35:39,090 opportunities that George was awarded to go on, and actually 616 00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:42,930 harvest this year that provided multiple meals, not just one 617 00:35:42,930 --> 00:35:46,380 hamburger helper meal, right, multiple meals for his family. 618 00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:50,370 And I don't know where George is today. But imagine if we call 619 00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:53,310 him I think he'd probably reflect on that same experience, 620 00:35:53,310 --> 00:35:56,880 the same way you do. Certainly seen with Bruce, is how 621 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,280 impactful that is when you zoom out and realize the bigger 622 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,550 picture here, right? Like we're living on borrowed time. And we 623 00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:06,000 get caught up in some really silly thing sometimes. And when 624 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,330 you look at what's important, it is just putting a handout and 625 00:36:09,330 --> 00:36:12,660 serving somebody else and saying how can I help you and watching 626 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:13,320 that unfold? 627 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:16,500 Mike Christensen: I keep telling Brittany, this would make me 628 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,990 tell that story because I break up every time and this was 629 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:24,480 probably 10 or 12 years ago that this happened. But it's a pretty 630 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,530 powerful story. I 631 00:36:25,530 --> 00:36:27,660 Michael Proctor: think it's everything. I mean, I think it's 632 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:31,500 the reason why our program should exist not only in in 633 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,100 Kansas, but across the country. Because there are a lot of 634 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,530 Bruce's out there, there are a lot of George's out there who 635 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:41,580 are longing for that opportunity and those resources, and we've 636 00:36:41,580 --> 00:36:42,900 got the opportunity to give it to him. 637 00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:47,580 So what I heard between that relationship, and the program 638 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:52,830 facilitating that is Bruce was able to so in value to George, 639 00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:57,330 at a level that nobody else in his world was able to do. First 640 00:36:57,330 --> 00:37:04,080 of all, second of all, I would imagine that George harvesting 641 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,870 that deer or any other whatever other animals went in the 642 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:11,100 freezer to provide for the family went a long way towards 643 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:17,220 breaking the poverty cycle mindset. Yep. And more than 644 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:22,410 that, probably, I would hope, move Georgia into a place of 645 00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:27,210 saying, wow, I've been able to be trusted with these kinds of 646 00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:30,540 experiences, this level of value has been sowed into me, and how 647 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:35,700 can I pass that on. So when he's older, but to recognize, you 648 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:38,820 know, the people in his world might be doing the best they can 649 00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:41,730 with what they've got. Absolutely. And this program is 650 00:37:41,730 --> 00:37:46,230 so cool, because we get to have people that have more resources, 651 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:51,000 more ability more time to come in, so into kids who really are 652 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,150 starving for it. And in some cases, like they actually also 653 00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,500 really need some meat.

654 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,089 Unknown: Mentoring is such a powerful thing. And again, 655 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,619 before I got involved with this program, way back when I had my 656 00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:11,939 kids took them to practice to care, my kids, coach, some 657 00:38:11,939 --> 00:38:15,839 little league and some soccer but until you spend some time 658 00:38:16,019 --> 00:38:19,319 with a young boy, or young girl in the blind, and you hear their 659 00:38:19,319 --> 00:38:23,039 stories and and you're able to share with them what you have, 660 00:38:24,029 --> 00:38:26,879 that mentoring really can make a huge difference in a young man's 661 00:38:26,879 --> 00:38:31,619 life, young girls life. And I think in today's society, 662 00:38:31,649 --> 00:38:35,639 especially we need to have more and more men step up and warm 663 00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:39,119 women, everybody step up and do more mentoring give these kids 664 00:38:40,589 --> 00:38:43,319 understanding of what what really happened, what what they 665 00:38:43,319 --> 00:38:44,519 can achieve in the world. 666 00:38:45,330 --> 00:38:47,730 Michael Proctor: It's amazing what a kid can do when they hear 667 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880 I believe in you, I'm here for you, you know, how can I help 668 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,200 you? And that's what it's not about shooting that a big book 669 00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:57,540 that was great for George, I'm really happy for him. But 670 00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:02,580 there's more more to that. And I think he probably found a lot of 671 00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:05,790 self confidence in that and has hopefully been able to steward 672 00:39:05,790 --> 00:39:08,640 that to somebody else too. That's the bigger thing, right 673 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,550 is is making generational impact, you know, potentially 674 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:15,810 breaking cycles of generational poverty, but also generational 675 00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:19,080 cycles of serving others. I think we live in a pretty self 676 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,020 serving world. We have social media that you know, is 677 00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:25,350 constantly promoting self promotion, right? This kind of 678 00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:27,780 shakes that tree pretty aggressively and says no, like 679 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:29,820 you're gonna get out there and you're gonna go sit with 680 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,070 somebody in a blind and you're just going to be there for them 681 00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:34,920 with without anything else making noise in the background. 682 00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:39,300 Yeah. So both Liam and Coulson got their first year last year. 683 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,420 Yeah. And we're still eating that meat love it actually 684 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:45,300 looked at the reason again, I really had to defrost it because 685 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:50,580 some of it's getting like frozen. Yes. I don't know. 686 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,500 Anyways, that's, that's gonna might be challenging, but they 687 00:39:55,530 --> 00:39:58,260 it's we looked at it this year, and we're like, Okay, do we want 688 00:39:58,260 --> 00:40:00,720 to go do those like we still have all this deer from last 689 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,080 year, the two you got? And they're like, no, we want to go 690 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,160 try, you know, hunting for geese this year. And so that's, that's 691 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,580 what we're going to try to do for ourselves, but they get so 692 00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:13,770 much pride when they're like, Well, I think this one's my 693 00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:15,030 deer. I think it's my deer. 694 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,530 Tonight. That's my bird. 695 00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:19,320 Because it's all kind of mixed in there. And we don't really 696 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,950 know. But like, yeah, you guys both put meat in the freezer. 697 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,690 And, actually, so when Daniel came over, and he talked about, 698 00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:32,310 he's like, he's like, You guys put meat in the freezer. I mean, 699 00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:35,250 he really made it a big. So like, you're a provider? 700 00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:38,970 Exactly. He's like you provide for your family? And you know, 701 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:43,020 not that that's that burdens on their shoulders. But, but still, 702 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:46,830 I mean, that's a big deal, you know, that they're like, is, is, 703 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:51,810 it's kind of like grabbing the mic moment. But like, so Liam 704 00:40:51,810 --> 00:40:54,900 started doing Rubik's Cubes. He started sewing cubes earlier 705 00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:57,240 this year. And it started off with he got to keep for 706 00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:01,920 Christmas. And then a government leaders like, Hey, Dad, do you 707 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,420 think you think I can do this? But that's what every kid's 708 00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:09,600 asking the question. Do you think I've got what it takes. 709 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,590 And whether it's a Rubik's cube or hunting, putting meat in the 710 00:41:13,590 --> 00:41:18,390 freezer, stepping up to the plate? Hey, Dad, you think I can 711 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:22,320 do this? Yeah. And in the time that we spent in the blinds, 712 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,300 because we had to spend quite a bit of time and there was a lot 713 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:28,830 of really drives, and a lot of gas burn. But we got it. And 714 00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:33,480 man, they were just over the moon. But for for all the kids 715 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,120 that don't get to experience that, let alone somebody they 716 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,290 look up to and like spend quality time. And this kind of 717 00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:44,040 leads into I guess this does lead into maybe a new segment 718 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:49,710 that we can talk about in

this podcast of what does it look 719 00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,160 like for us to live the best life possible with the time we 720 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,240 have left? Because time is limited, we only have so much of 721 00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,990 it. And when we're selling time into others that that conveys 722 00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:07,590 value in ways that nothing else will. Right. So, Mike, what what 723 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:10,110 do you do? Or what does it look like for you to live the best 724 00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:11,640 life possible at the time you have left? 725 00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:16,650 Unknown: You know, I'm in my 70s now and people say hey, are you 726 00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:21,900 going to retire? And, you know, I tell them, I don't think I can 727 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:26,940 have this much fun if I retired. So probably not anytime soon. 728 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:33,270 But it's the self satisfaction that you get from seeing these 729 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:38,160 kids harvest their first deer or shoot a pheasant or catch a bass 730 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,910 or have that outdoor experience. That that's just, I get to do 731 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:51,060 that all the time. And see that all year round. It's just 732 00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:55,740 tremendously rewarding, being able to help kids have those 733 00:42:55,740 --> 00:43:00,330 types of experiences. And I think anybody would express 734 00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:03,180 that. I mean, anybody that loves to coach, that's what they do it 735 00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,570 for. They like seeing those kids succeed. And that's what this 736 00:43:06,570 --> 00:43:09,750 mentoring program lets people do it lets them get out there and 737 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:13,170 help a kid succeed. And we just need to have more and more of 738 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:16,230 that it does so much for these kids that build their self 739 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:19,380 confidence and, and their self worth and all those kinds of 740 00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:23,250 things. That gives them the impetus to go ahead and be 741 00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:24,270 successful on their own. 742 00:43:26,610 --> 00:43:31,350 Michael Proctor: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a 743 00:43:31,350 --> 00:43:36,240 lot to be said about serving others. I certainly think that's 744 00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:40,530 kind of my angle on that as well as what can I do today to better 745 00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:44,280 the life of somebody else? Whether that be in our camp, 746 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,710 which is serving kids, or if it's in my husband's camp 747 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:50,010 serving young adults with intellectual disabilities or you 748 00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:53,940 know, even in your role helping those steward their finances for 749 00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:58,200 an impactful future for their families or entirely into their 750 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,410 church, whatever it looks like, right? It's how can we set our 751 00:44:01,410 --> 00:44:04,380 own agenda down and say, you know, Lord, what do you want me 752 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:06,930 to do with this? What do you want me to do with my my talent, 753 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:10,350 you've given me my the treasures you given me to serve others to 754 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:13,590 make an impact, because we are not going to be here forever. We 755 00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:17,910 have borrowed time, always borrowed time. So I get excited 756 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:21,480 about thinking through that lens every day. I certainly tried to. 757 00:44:21,870 --> 00:44:26,430 Yeah. And I have no idea maybe where the answer on this 758 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:30,450 question will end. But Mike, you know, so you named it pass it 759 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:35,430 on? Did you have a mentor that pass things on to you? My dad, 760 00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:37,620 your dad is Yeah, 761 00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:40,140 Unknown: I had some, some coaches that were pretty good, 762 00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:43,950 but my dad was the one that I looked up to for everything. 763 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:49,050 Okay. And then you know, a lot of kids don't have that today. I 764 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,070 when they talk about growing up privileged I, I feel like I grew 765 00:44:53,070 --> 00:44:55,440 up privileged. We didn't have money, we didn't have a lot of 766 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,570 things, but I had a mom and dad that were there all the time. 767 00:44:58,230 --> 00:45:01,710 And, again, I think that's where Mentoring can play such a huge 768 00:45:01,710 --> 00:45:07,470 role in today's society is. So many kids don't have that kind 769 00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:12,090 of privilege like I did. And having a mentor in your life 770 00:45:12,090 --> 00:45:16,320 that can help you see what, what you're capable of. That's a huge 771 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,620 thing. 772 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,590 Michael Proctor: Yeah, I think it's really easy to idolize 773 00:45:19,590 --> 00:45:22,740 public figures, right? Like, let's talk about Taylor Swift 774 00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:26,070 for a second, when was last time you open the internet or turn on 775 00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:27,990 the TV and it wasn't talked about, but it's like, man, it's 776 00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:31,680 so easy to idolize these people who aren't in our lives, like 777 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:35,100 those people aren't interacting in our day to day lives. And 778 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:38,760 it's just so important to seek out people who are in person who 779 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,300 can pour into you. And that's exactly what mentorship does. 780 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:44,910 It's exactly what these kids are looking for. So when they 781 00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:48,420 finally find that person to do it with them, right to go in the 782 00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:52,230 outdoors to experience hunting, to disconnect from their phones,

783 00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:55,710 it's like, oh, this is a lot. This is deeply rooted. This is 784 00:45:55,710 --> 00:45:59,010 not superficial anymore, right? Like this is a connection I can 785 00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:01,020 carry on for a long time. 786 00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:03,240 Travis Kelce is really putting her on the map. 787 00:46:04,469 --> 00:46:07,799 I love it. I had to bring that up. I mean, it just it it was 788 00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:10,199 very relevant in today's conversation. I think 789 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:14,160 Unknown: you can't do anything without bringing up Travis 790 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,880 Kelce. And 791 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,240 Michael Proctor: I am a huge fan. I don't hate you or Swift. 792 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,360 So I'm just gonna camp out in the middle. But I would love to 793 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,260 stop hearing about it. 794 00:46:23,969 --> 00:46:26,699 My youngest brother, he was actually a Taylor Swift Fan, 795 00:46:26,729 --> 00:46:33,779 possibly before he was achieved. Okay, okay. He's here for it. I 796 00:46:33,779 --> 00:46:36,509 saw that I sent it to him his first person I thought of, I was 797 00:46:36,509 --> 00:46:37,589 like your dreams come true. 798 00:46:40,110 --> 00:46:42,030 You can't go up from here. This is it. 799 00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:50,040 Anyways, back back on. Yeah. To talk about Yeah. Yeah. And 800 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,390 that's so that's so great to hear that you grew up with a dad 801 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:59,040 who was president who sewed into you? I think something that's 802 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,340 helpful for me to keep in mind is how am I showing up to be 803 00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:08,160 present for my kids for my for my boys rally? Because it's so 804 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,820 easy to get sucked into? Okay, how can we distract ourselves? 805 00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:16,290 How can we do something without really having to do anything? 806 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,680 And how can we have a conversation without talking 807 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,970 about anything? Okay. But it's, you know, whether it's in a 808 00:47:26,970 --> 00:47:30,990 blind or even just riding in the car, we don't listen to music, 809 00:47:30,990 --> 00:47:33,870 we just we can talk. So we're all kind of stuck in the same 810 00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:37,830 spot together and within earshot. And that's, so that can 811 00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:41,580 get good but but how do we how do we stay present? How do we 812 00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:45,660 really so into those that we shouldn't be sowing into that or 813 00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:49,860 looking to us for that we can stay top, stay present in our 814 00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:50,970 mindset for them. 815 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,600 Unknown: You know, I think a lot of folks hear about mentoring 816 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,180 and they think, Gosh, I couldn't do that I don't have anything to 817 00:47:57,180 --> 00:48:02,580 bring to the table. And what they don't understand is, it's 818 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:06,810 time. Time is the most important thing. I I spend a lot of time 819 00:48:06,810 --> 00:48:09,120 Mike Pierce used to be the writer for the Wichita Eagle 820 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,900 outdoor stuff. And he came on on a bunch of our hunts with us 821 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:22,380 and, and he told me once kids spell love, T I me and that 822 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:26,220 really stuck. You know, that's, that's all the mentors are 823 00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:29,460 looking to spend some time with these kids. You don't have to be 824 00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:32,490 the best deer hunter in the world is the best target shooter 825 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:35,850 in the world. Just spend time with these kids and give them 826 00:48:35,850 --> 00:48:37,950 opportunities to find themselves out there. 827 00:48:38,820 --> 00:48:41,400 Michael Proctor: Is Liam highlighted they actually prefer 828 00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:42,750 if they're better than you. 829 00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:46,260 Unknown: Well, I told all the kids that I mentored I said as 830 00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:48,660 soon as they started shooting better with an idea that I was 831 00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:55,140 gonna go get another one. That never happened. So they did 832 00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:55,710 quite well. 833 00:48:58,830 --> 00:49:05,730 Michael Proctor: Good. What is what's one of the biggest 834 00:49:05,730 --> 00:49:09,390 questions you get when people are asking you about pass it on? 835 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,000 They biggest question we probably get is twofold, about 836 00:49:18,030 --> 00:49:21,450 about mentorship, and it's usually around not having the 837 00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:24,840 confidence to go or commit to that or being worried about not 838 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,220 having, you know, enough time to commit. Right. And the other one 839 00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:31,530 is, you know, how are y'all floating your boat? How are 840 00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:33,840 y'all funded? What do you what do you do? What are your next 841 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,140 steps? How do people like the average Joe to folks like you, 842 00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:40,560 Mike, who have sponsored our program, you know, get involved 843 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,530 in? I would say those are the biggest questions we field. 844 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,890 Probably because we do a good job as you can tell, telling 845 00:49:46,890 --> 00:49:49,470 stories about these kids and their experiences. 846 00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,969 Unknown: Yeah, the whole question about mentorship, but 847 00:49:53,969 --> 00:49:57,149 just just, it's just a matter of time. Just come into it. Yeah, 848 00:49:57,179 --> 00:49:59,309 we're not looking for the greatest hunters in the world. 849 00:49:59,999 --> 00:50:03,449 If you don't know how to feel rested, you're come out anyway. 850 00:50:03,449 -->

00:50:06,449 We got other volunteers that can help you with that. Yeah. So 851 00:50:07,230 --> 00:50:09,150 Michael Proctor: yeah, kids don't need perfect they need 852 00:50:09,150 --> 00:50:11,550 present like you mentioned. That's all they need. Yep. 853 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,930 One of the most freeing quotes I ever heard about parenting is 854 00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:19,950 that you actually only have to get it right like 40% of the 855 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:23,910 time, seriously, like, you only have to not screw up 40% of the 856 00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:29,520 time as a parent to raise healthy adjusted kids. And that 857 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,970 feels pretty good. Feels a couple the other percentage with 858 00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:36,030 love. And there's a lot that can be, you know, accomplished there 859 00:50:36,030 --> 00:50:38,010 for sure. Yeah, for sure. 860 00:50:38,219 --> 00:50:41,999 You just know how to love another little person. You know, 861 00:50:42,479 --> 00:50:46,919 when you screw up, I want to apologize. Yeah. Make amends and 862 00:50:46,919 --> 00:50:50,519 shove it under the rug. Yeah, absolutely. Now we're talking 863 00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:50,999 about all kinds 864 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,020 of No, I think that's super replicable. And then the mentor 865 00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:57,720 space do. I mean, I don't know how many times I've sat there 866 00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:00,810 and told kids, I don't know how to answer your question. I'm 867 00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:03,030 going to try to look it up or find someone who can answer it 868 00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:06,720 for you, whether it be about hunting or about navigating a 869 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,570 life crisis. Right. Like, I think that's really important 870 00:51:09,570 --> 00:51:11,280 that you're transparent, honest with kids. 871 00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:16,860 And they, they catch that. You want kids to be transparent with 872 00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:20,400 you honest with you. Yeah. Well, why don't we start by 873 00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:23,310 leading with that? Yeah, time to be vulnerable folks. Yeah, 874 00:51:23,370 --> 00:51:24,540 absolutely. Yeah. 875 00:51:26,670 --> 00:51:30,060 Talk about where you see this headed, how many states are in, 876 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:36,540 like how its funding? Limited to some extent, right. But we're, 877 00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:38,340 what's the future of pass it on? 878 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,899 Unknown: I, I'm excited about it. I really don't see a ceiling 879 00:51:42,929 --> 00:51:47,579 for what we're trying to do. The high school trapshooting program 880 00:51:47,579 --> 00:51:51,389 where we started with this thing. Is continues to grow 881 00:51:51,389 --> 00:51:55,289 across the country. We haven't even started reaching out to 882 00:51:55,289 --> 00:51:58,139 other cohorts out there. Like the National Archery in the 883 00:51:58,139 --> 00:52:00,869 Schools program. There's a million kids across the country 884 00:52:00,869 --> 00:52:04,289 shooting, archery in school. These kids all have an 885 00:52:04,289 --> 00:52:08,909 opportunity to get outdoors. There's a program called 886 00:52:08,909 --> 00:52:12,179 outdoors tomorrow foundation that's teaching outdoor 887 00:52:12,179 --> 00:52:16,019 adventure classes in schools, Mays High School has won. All of 888 00:52:16,019 --> 00:52:20,189 these different organizations have kids that need to have 889 00:52:20,189 --> 00:52:22,499 further opportunities to get outdoors. And that's where 890 00:52:22,949 --> 00:52:27,359 acetone really is making our mark. These kids are trapped 891 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:29,339 shooters, let's give them a chance to get out in the field 892 00:52:29,339 --> 00:52:32,069 and go hunting. These kids are done archery, let's give them a 893 00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:34,289 chance to get in the field. These kids have gone through an 894 00:52:34,289 --> 00:52:37,589 outdoor adventure class, let's get them in the field. And and 895 00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:40,259 we don't want to give them just as many different opportunities 896 00:52:40,259 --> 00:52:43,139 as they want to go. So they've been deer hunting once and they 897 00:52:43,139 --> 00:52:46,199 want to go again. Great. Let's go again. They've been doesn't 898 00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,289 honeymoon. So they want to go again. We don't have any 899 00:52:49,289 --> 00:52:51,809 problems with that. We want to get these kids out as many times 900 00:52:51,809 --> 00:52:55,589 as we can. So it's, you know, we see us going into other states 901 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:59,669 and just continuing to grow as fast as financial resources will 902 00:52:59,669 --> 00:53:00,449 let us basically, 903 00:53:01,290 --> 00:53:03,750 Michael Proctor: do you have more kids than you do have hunts 904 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:04,260 right now? 905 00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:08,220 Unknown: Not yet. Not yet. And that's one of the things that's 906 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:12,150 really stellar about our program. Yeah. You know, our 907 00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:15,330 program coordinators are making these opportunities available. 908 00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:18,870 And when people hear about our program, they call and say, Hey, 909 00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:24,570 come from my property. I mean, it's really been amazing. As our 910 00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:27,480 program has grown, we had a guy call us from Southwest Kent or 911 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,510 southeast Kansas and say, Hey, can you get 50 kids down here to 912 00:53:30,510 --> 00:53:36,090 hunt deer? 50 Well, I don't know if I get that many. Yes. 50 he 913 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,890 his properties over Mumba deer? 914 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:40,260 Michael Proctor: The opposite? Oh, 915 00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:43,260 yes. Some depredation issues going on there. 916 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,639 Unknown: But we we just continue getting more and more 917 00:53:47,639 -->

00:53:48,809 opportunities. So 918 00:53:49,590 --> 00:53:53,880 Michael Proctor: Okay. Talk about what what it looks like 919 00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:59,580 for kids or parents to get so So Kate. Katie tabi is going to be 920 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,820 a guest on the next one or two, which will be well doesn't 921 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,190 matter the day of the week. But anyway, so she's come on next by 922 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:08,010 sharing your information with her because she had an interest 923 00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:11,760 but what are the qualifications for kids to get involved? What 924 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,070 do they need to do like, like describe that because I would 925 00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:20,430 hear if I don't have if I don't have guns if I don't have land 926 00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:22,650 if I don't have access, and I've experienced that I've never done 927 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:25,530 hunters education myself as a parent. I'm sitting back 928 00:54:25,530 --> 00:54:29,760 thinking I don't even Yeah, that's not attainable. Is the 929 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,840 first thought through my mind. 930 00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:36,300 Yeah, yeah. So what is great about living in modern day and 931 00:54:36,330 --> 00:54:39,720 with great technological advancements is hunter education 932 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:43,260 is readily available. So any kids 11 years of age, you know, 933 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:47,070 we even serve some kids into the the college range depending on 934 00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:49,710 their involvement or what their you know, their life looks like 935 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:55,530 but you can take on or read in person. Safe hunters.com yep.com 936 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,970 Safe hunters.com Go there, look up your state you can get a look 937 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,300 First of all in person classes and see if there's availability 938 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:07,140 if not there, the NRA has done a great job of creating an online 939 00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:10,200 platform to where you can take a very interactive, I've walked 940 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,200 through it very interactive online Hunter ed course and 941 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,620 become certified that way. So that you know, checks off the 942 00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:19,590 first qualifying thing that you need to be right 100 certified, 943 00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:23,640 and that is a insurance reason. And also, we don't ever want to 944 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,240 syndicate out into the field, not prepared, right? Sure. You 945 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,640 don't put a kid on a bicycle without training wheels first. 946 00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:32,010 Well, maybe sometimes there are some of those kids, some kids 947 00:55:32,010 --> 00:55:34,440 who excel that way, right? But we're not going to do that for 948 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,840 that kiddo. We're not going to do that to the mentor, we're 949 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,360

just not going to take on that liability, that kind of 950 00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:44,340 situation. But outside of that. Looking at our calendar, it's 951 00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:47,520 super easy to navigate, you can search for all the events we 952 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,010 have on our calendar by a zip code. So you can see what's 953 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,740 what's in my area within 30 miles. And that's on your 954 00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:57,360 website. Yeah, outdoor mentors dot o RG. Search it sign up for 955 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,820 it right then in there. It takes about two minutes maybe to sign 956 00:55:59,820 --> 00:56:02,910 up for an event. And then you're you put directly in contact one 957 00:56:02,910 --> 00:56:05,100 of our coordinators who's responsible for that event, 958 00:56:05,610 --> 00:56:08,820 making sure they know, you know, Hey, Mike, we saw you signed up 959 00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:11,850 for a upland hunt, okay, you need this hunting license, you 960 00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:15,510 can buy it here, you need this waterfowl stamp, or this, this 961 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:19,230 hip stamp or this deer tag or this turkey tag. Here's how you 962 00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:21,420 take all those steps to get that, Oh, you don't have a 963 00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:23,700 firearm. And that's okay. Because we're going to make sure 964 00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:27,180 this is vetted with really good mentors who have resources and, 965 00:56:27,330 --> 00:56:31,680 and things such as ammo, firearms, maybe ablaze orange 966 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,080 vest, if you don't have one. So we're going to make sure you're 967 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,820 taken care of through that whole process. 968 00:56:35,969 --> 00:56:39,779 So this is set up to where they're going to take them under 969 00:56:39,779 --> 00:56:42,089 their wing and help them get that done so long as they're at 970 00:56:42,089 --> 00:56:45,089 least 11 with a license or headhunters education 971 00:56:45,089 --> 00:56:50,729 certificate. You're talking, talking about scalability and 972 00:56:50,729 --> 00:56:55,709 looking to add new states? What if somebody's like, Hey, we've 973 00:56:55,739 --> 00:56:58,619 either had an idea similar, and you guys have built the 974 00:56:58,619 --> 00:57:01,979 platform, you have the program, you're gaining a lot of steam, a 975 00:57:01,979 --> 00:57:05,519 lot of reputation. Who should they reach out to? If they're 976 00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,519 like, You know what, I think we can get some going over here. 977 00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:10,950 Unknown: Yeah, Brittany a call? 978 00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:13,440 Michael Proctor: Yeah, yeah, we're always entertaining 979 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,350 conversations. We get emails probably on a weekly basis. I am 980 00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:19,890 in. I'm in South Dakota, y'all have programming plans up here 981 00:57:19,890 --> 00:57:23,400 soon. Because I want to, I want to be part of it. We certainly 982 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,100 love that you never know how, where a conversation will lead. 983 00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:30,360 You never know what steps follow after that. So certainly please 984 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,240 reach out to us. All of our social media is very engaging, 985 00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:35,430 you know, send us a message on there, we'll get back to you. 986 00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:38,460 All of our email addresses and phone numbers are on our website 987 00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:41,280 as well, too. So you can connect with us pretty, pretty directly 988 00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:41,910 pretty quickly. 989 00:57:42,029 --> 00:57:45,689 Awesome. Talk about funding, what are your funding goals? And 990 00:57:45,689 --> 00:57:46,709 what's that look like? 991 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,610 Yeah, well, we are big funding goals, always. So we run a lot 992 00:57:53,610 --> 00:57:56,340 of different raffles throughout the year. People ask us this all 993 00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:59,010 the time, where do you get your money, right? Raffles, we host 994 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,490 special fundraising events like a sporting clays event, a golf 995 00:58:02,490 --> 00:58:06,780 tournament? We're writing grants often. And we're always pitching 996 00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:10,170 to folks who are in a corporate sponsor situation, right where 997 00:58:10,170 --> 00:58:14,160 they might need to or want to steward some of their income or 998 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,770 revenue and just say, hey, we just like what you're doing, 999 00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:19,800 keep doing what you're doing. So we have various items, or 1000 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,220 various avenues we can run down there for donations, we also 1001 00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:27,900 take just straight donations as well. Like if you have ammo that 1002 00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,060 you're trying to get rid of, because you don't have a use for 1003 00:58:30,060 --> 00:58:34,080 it. Or if you have some some extra cash flow you ran into and 1004 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,660 you want to steward that. We'd love to connect with you and 1005 00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:39,870 just chat with what chat with you about what that goes to 1006 00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:43,110 sharing the stories that we're sharing today. I think that's 1007 00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:46,950 really important. Mike mentioned, you know, roughly 125 1008 00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:49,710 grand, you know, per program coordinator. So it is a numbers 1009 00:58:49,710 --> 00:58:53,460 game. If we want to scale and create sustainability, you know, 1010 00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:55,980 that number just has to keep, you know, increasing. So we're 1011 00:58:55,980 --> 00:59:00,180 certainly trying to do an active, take an active role and 1012 00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:03,840 doing a better job at creating that sustainability for us. 1013 00:59:05,969 --> 00:59:08,009 Sounds like you're doing a great job of pulling

all the levers 1014 00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:11,519 that are available between grant state funding through the 1015 00:59:11,999 --> 00:59:17,069 stewardship are the PR dollars, and then corporate sponsorship. 1016 00:59:17,099 --> 00:59:19,349 And you've got some big corporate sponsors too, right? 1017 00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:24,180 Yeah, yeah. Very thankful for corporate sponsors. You know, 1018 00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:27,180 Savage Arms, Remington federal ammunition, Walmart, Inc, which 1019 00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:30,720 is here in Wichita. These folks all recognize we're serving a 1020 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,900 target audience, which are their future customers, which is 1021 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:37,440 really great for them because if kids aren't growing up hunting, 1022 00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:40,470 people don't need to buy Savage Arms anymore. They don't need to 1023 00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:43,530 buy Remington ammunition. They don't need to buy processing 1024 00:59:43,530 --> 00:59:46,890 equipment to butcher their own deer at home. So they see the 1025 00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:50,850 importance of funding organizations like ours, because 1026 00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:54,480 that is going to fund their future. You know, revenue as 1027 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,010 well. Yeah. Target Audience Yes, target audience buzzword 1028 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,180 Well, Mike, you want to close it up with maybe just sharing 1029 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,330 something you learned from from your best mentor? 1030 01:00:10,889 --> 01:00:13,349 Unknown: You know, Dad was always getting those kids out 1031 01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:16,709 anytime he could. He was always there for us. And that's what we 1032 01:00:16,709 --> 01:00:19,409 want to have the mentors to be somebody that's there for these 1033 01:00:19,409 --> 01:00:25,079 kids and can help them show the way in the outdoors. I, in 1034 01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,229 working with Big Brothers all these years, one of the things 1035 01:00:28,229 --> 01:00:31,769 that they tell everybody, and that you hear from the mentors, 1036 01:00:32,219 --> 01:00:36,749 is the mentors get more out of it than the kids do. And that's, 1037 01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:41,309 that's a true story, folks. When you mentor a kid, when you spend 1038 01:00:41,309 --> 01:00:44,189 time with them, you're gonna get more out of it than the kids do. 1039 01:00:44,489 --> 01:00:47,759 Every time. So step up, give us a call. 1040 01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:51,569 Michael Proctor: Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, actually, I'm 1041 01:00:51,569 --> 01:00:57,689 about to go head to lunch with one of my mentors. Yeah, well, 1042 01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:02,819 thank you, Brittany and Mike are for everything that you do. And 1043 01:01:03,299 --> 01:01:10,439 all the value you're sowing into tomorrow's leaders and dads and 1044 01:01:11,279 --> 01:01:12,419 moms and all that. 1045 01:01:12,989 --> 01:01:16,319 Yeah. Well, thanks for creating a platform to share that and for 1046 01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:17,039 doing what you do. 1047 01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:21,750 Yeah. And Brittany, you run a podcast as well. Yeah, yeah. We 1048 01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:22,230 didn't even talk. 1049 01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:26,190 Yeah, yeah. Well, I just I like storytelling. I like talking. I 1050 01:01:26,190 --> 01:01:28,440 got the gift of gab. So that's yeah. It's called the Great 1051 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,520 Plains outdoors podcast with my co host, Rob MacDonald. And we 1052 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,610 just share stories all across the Great Plains, whether it be 1053 01:01:35,610 --> 01:01:39,540 about a national conservation organization or talking to fish 1054 01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:42,810 biologists who are in charge of breeding trophy walleye and some 1055 01:01:42,810 --> 01:01:45,720 of the lakes around us. It's a few far and in between just 1056 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,970 really good content on there. Yeah. Thanks. 1057 01:01:48,210 --> 01:01:50,700 All right. Well, I'll link that in the show notes description as 1058 01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:55,770 well. Yep. So this has been Mike proctor with leading edge 1059 01:01:55,770 --> 01:01:58,710 financial planning as the sponsor for real wealth podcast. 1060 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:06,360 On up just exploring, pass it on outdoors, outdoor mentors, and, 1061 01:02:07,650 --> 01:02:11,490 yeah, let's invest in tomorrow's youth. I'd encourage you to 1062 01:02:11,490 --> 01:02:15,420 follow the link to donate if you feel so compelled to steward 1063 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:19,650 some of your money to help multiply value into tomorrow's 1064 01:02:19,650 --> 01:02:24,030 youth. And definitely like and subscribe and stay tuned for 1065 01:02:24,030 --> 01:02:24,720 more upsets