บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ #45 Tegan Webster

the most loyal, loving, kind, compassionate friend that you could ever dream for your sister or your child. 00:02:56.673 --> 00:03:05.908 And before we even go any further, I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart, I don't want to cry on this podcast. 00:03:07.561 --> 00:03:09.247 We're taking a turn right now. 00:03:09.247 --> 00:03:10.645 It's changing now. 00:03:11.860 --> 00:03:20.051 But anyway, we were at a dinner party a couple weeks ago and another listener, another dear friend of mine, we'll just call him Train. 00:03:20.051 --> 00:03:30.367 You could tell that he was a fan of the show, but he knew he he just felt like it needed something and he actually this was his idea. 00:03:30.367 --> 00:03:53.211 He thought, much like uh howard stern, as robin quivers, that I could have taggy wedgie and I actually had an immediate reaction like, oh, that would be so fun, because tagging not only has an incredible, but she's also very quick to laugh and it's very weird doing this podcast because I'm Tegan, this is where I do it, you see that. 00:03:53.411 --> 00:03:54.073 That's where I go. 00:03:54.073 --> 00:03:55.935 I literally the whole thing, everything you've ever. 00:03:55.955 --> 00:03:56.599 That's where you usually sit. 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:58.038 That's where I sit, right at my computer. 00:03:58.038 --> 00:03:59.461 Oh, so this is a change of scenery. 00:03:59.540 --> 00:04:03.122 Yeah, yeah, just a little far back from my desk. 00:04:03.122 --> 00:04:09.705 But you know it's weird just sitting there and talking and it's so much more fun. 00:04:09.746 --> 00:04:14.568 Yes, I do think it made me realize that I'm an easy laugh that night. 00:04:14.568 --> 00:04:16.749 I was like wait a second Hang on. 00:04:16.749 --> 00:04:18.089 I do laugh. 00:04:18.149 --> 00:04:19.550 Hold on a second. 00:04:19.550 --> 00:04:21.672 You just have an incredible sense of humor. 00:04:21.971 --> 00:04:24.473 I was going to say I also have a really good sense of humor. 00:04:24.473 --> 00:04:25.233 She's got a pinpoint. 00:04:25.233 --> 00:04:25.973 Beautiful sense of humor. 00:04:26.033 --> 00:04:28.855 I was going to say I also have a really good sense of humor. 00:04:28.855 --> 00:04:30.375 She's got a pinpoint beautiful sense of humor. 00:04:30.375 --> 00:04:34.117 So I thought, anyway, so that's the back story of why we're here. 00:04:34.117 --> 00:04:48.884 And we're just experimenting and I think the real, the difficulty moving forward, to be perfectly honest, is how unhinged and last minute this podcast is. 00:04:48.884 --> 00:04:49.404 Yeah. 00:04:50.434 --> 00:04:52.408 I can sort of pick up on that vibe. 00:04:53.512 --> 00:04:59.367 I am sometimes at 8 pm on a Wednesday just like no idea what I'm going to do. 00:04:59.367 --> 00:05:06.242 And then and weirdly and I've talked about this there's the forcing function of delivering on Thursday morning. 00:05:06.242 --> 00:05:07.064 That deadline. 00:05:07.064 --> 00:05:15.088 The time

constraint and the fact that all week I inevitably am thinking about things. 00:05:15.108 --> 00:05:18.038 A little bit, yeah, the brain is tickling all the time. 00:05:19.310 --> 00:05:31.798 And sometimes, you know, I would say if I were to advertise this podcast it would just be, in all caps, wildly uneven so I can see that. 00:05:31.798 --> 00:05:36.509 Yeah, I can see that very diplomatic, like our last episode. 00:05:36.548 --> 00:05:40.406 So actually I thought I heard the last, no, no that's perfect. 00:05:40.425 --> 00:05:44.836 You haven't listened right to the one that came out today no good good, so good. 00:05:44.836 --> 00:05:47.983 So what I thought we would do, because it's a five-minute episode. 00:05:48.124 --> 00:05:48.363 Okay. 00:05:48.829 --> 00:05:54.055 So I think it would be perfect opportunity where we're just going to listen to it Okay, you're going to listen to it all. 00:05:54.055 --> 00:06:00.091 You're going to not feel you have to perform or do anything, okay, and then we're going to talk about it. 00:06:00.091 --> 00:06:03.112 Okay, it'll be a launching point for our discussion. 00:06:03.112 --> 00:06:04.033 Does that sound like fun? 00:06:04.033 --> 00:06:04.795 Sounds perfect. 00:06:04.795 --> 00:06:05.595 Okay, here we go. 00:06:05.595 --> 00:06:08.276 Well, everybody, here we are again. 00:06:08.276 --> 00:06:17.004 Summer, that sweet melancholy that I've been talking about since summer began, is finally upon us. 00:06:17.004 --> 00:06:21.687 Some cold fall north winds are rustling through the leaves. 00:06:21.687 --> 00:06:28.375 If you look closely, a few of those leaves are starting to tinge and crisp up on the edges. 00:06:28.375 --> 00:06:32.021 Fall fast approaches. 00:06:32.021 --> 00:06:33.970 How is your summer? 00:06:33.970 --> 00:06:37.295 Great, glad to hear it. 00:06:37.295 --> 00:06:38.997 How's your liver? 00:06:38.997 --> 00:06:40.678 Yeah, me too. 00:06:40.678 --> 00:06:42.281 Me too Me too. 00:06:42.302 --> 00:06:46.406 That's a good start. 00:06:46.406 --> 00:06:47.408 You like it? 00:06:47.408 --> 00:06:50.855 Yes, all right, especially when it's all summer here. 00:06:50.855 --> 00:06:58.677 Everybody has to have a winter, and I feel like it's so, stuffy, do you like the opening? 00:06:58.677 --> 00:07:00.322 I do, I thought about that. 00:07:00.322 --> 00:07:01.386 Do you feel comfort? 00:07:02.149 --> 00:07:02.853 I'm like how did he? 00:07:02.874 --> 00:07:03.276 do this. 00:07:03.276 --> 00:07:07.184 That's good, that's rubbish's good. 00:07:07.204 --> 00:07:11.497 Well, as you can probably tell, I am suffering from psoriasis of the liver. 00:07:11.497 --> 00:07:13.000 That's undiagnosed. 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:25.738 I don't believe I actually do have psoriasis of the liver, but I will say that all my lack of sleep and this summer's activities have finally caught up with me and we're not doing well. 00:07:25.738 --> 00:07:36.079 Physically we are not well, and so because I need to take care of me, I'm taking care of me. 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:46.860 I'm going to just do a very short, simple episode where I talk about puberty for a brief moment. 00:07:46.860 --> 00:07:50.713 I believe there's a bit here and we're going to work it out. 00:07:50.713 --> 00:08:03.678 But, of course, because this is starting stand up and this is just a spitball area, I am going to just share a little bit of what I did and you can tell me if it made, made you laugh out loud, any of it, and then you can wish me. 00:08:03.678 --> 00:08:12.062 If it made, made you laugh out loud, any of it, and then you can wish me well, you can send healing, healing thoughts towards me, and then I'll be back better than ever. 00:08:12.062 --> 00:08:29.795 And this fall is going to be great, because we're going to put together the summer's content and we're going to shape it into just a world-class stand-up set that is going to stand-up set that is going to rocket, ship me to the top of the game, to the top of the heap. 00:08:29.795 --> 00:08:30.398 Watch out Chris Rock. 00:08:30.398 --> 00:08:37.440 Here I come, all right, wishing you healing if you are also suffering from psoriasis. 00:08:38.642 --> 00:08:40.043 I discovered some writing. 00:08:40.043 --> 00:08:40.485 I did. 00:08:40.485 --> 00:08:47.690 I'm really happy I discovered it because it's about puberty and I've always loved puberty. 00:08:47.690 --> 00:08:51.880 I love puberty. 00:08:51.880 --> 00:08:54.508 No, my kids are right on the edge. 00:08:54.508 --> 00:09:22.658 Things are happening and that's really when my memory came online and as I was thinking about puberty and what an absolute horror show it is for people's appearances and just it's almost like the great mutator I thought what would puberty be like if, like it was a drug dealer you know what I mean was personified in a dark alley? 00:09:24.761 --> 00:09:31.793 I'm not sure you would take the drugs right, because puberty is basically it's in the street corner and he's pushing. 00:09:31.793 --> 00:09:32.215 He's like. 00:09:32.215 --> 00:09:36.397 He's like hey, little boy, you want a little testosterone. 00:09:36.397 --> 00:09:37.894 You want a little growth hormone. 00:09:37.894 --> 00:09:38.773 Come on, baby. 00:09:38.773 --> 00:09:39.335 Come on over here. 00:09:39.335 --> 00:09:43.000 Shit's gonna make you huge dude. 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.676 Your dick's gonna grow, bro. 00:09:45.676 --> 00:09:47.462 You want your dick to grow. 00:09:47.462 --> 00:09:48.125 Come on over. 00:09:48.125 --> 00:09:49.975 You wanna get yoked. 00:09:49.975 --> 00:09:53.399 You want some bolder shoulders? 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:54.514 Come on over here, man. 00:09:54.514 --> 00:09:55.418 I got what you need. 00:09:55.418 --> 00:09:58.578 I got straight pituitary gland right here. 00:09:58.578 --> 00:10:00.998 You wanna start smelling like shit. 00:10:00.998 --> 00:10:03.361 You want your mom to no longer hug you because you got BO. 00:10:03.361 -->

00:10:03.433 Come on. 00:10:03.433 --> 00:10:04.615 You wanna get rock hard in the middle of the day, smelling like shit. 00:10:04.615 --> 00:10:05.402 You want your mom to no longer hug you because you got bo. 00:10:05.402 --> 00:10:08.879 Come on, you want to get rock hard in the middle of the day for no reason. 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:19.203 I got you, I got you and it's, and it's a huge risk, man, if you go into that dark alley and you say yes to puberty. 00:10:19.264 --> 00:10:25.724 I mean you're taking a huge gamble because most kids are so cute. 00:10:25.724 --> 00:10:33.317 You know, I can't, I'm not gonna name names, but like you know that person, when they were 11, 12, they were cute. 00:10:33.317 --> 00:10:36.403 It was like oh, wow. 00:10:36.403 --> 00:10:45.543 And then all of a sudden their nose just grows twice as big and just starts glistening with oil and little pus mountains. 00:10:45.543 --> 00:10:50.519 Come on, man, you want some pus mountains that'll explode and bleed when you touch them. 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.158 You want uncontrollable mood swings. 00:10:54.158 --> 00:10:55.969 You want hey, come on over here. 00:10:55.969 --> 00:10:59.299 You want to hate your parents and lash out at them for no reason. 00:10:59.299 --> 00:11:03.197 You want to start crying and not know why. 00:11:03.197 --> 00:11:07.491 I got you, I got you, I got you. 00:11:07.491 --> 00:11:12.477 I think the bit is that if puberty was optional, would you do it? 00:11:12.477 --> 00:11:14.980 Oh, little Jimmy's so cute. 00:11:14.980 --> 00:11:19.525 He's giving me one handsome boy Like pump the brakes on little Jimmy. 00:11:19.525 --> 00:11:30.418 Little Jimmy looks like a horse colt with some sort of skin rash. 00:11:30.418 --> 00:11:31.340 That's really funny. 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.303 It's so good you like that. 00:11:36.350 --> 00:11:37.414 That's like really good, I got to tell you. 00:11:37.830 --> 00:11:40.178 I'm also in the thick of puberty. 00:11:40.178 --> 00:11:44.173 Yeah, you are in the thick of puberty, but you have to understand something From my point of view. 00:11:44.354 --> 00:11:46.855 I record that I have no idea. 00:11:46.855 --> 00:11:48.379 If anyone finds it funny. 00:11:48.379 --> 00:11:51.139 So, for me to listen to it with you. 00:11:51.371 --> 00:11:52.248 No, that was really funny. 00:11:52.650 --> 00:11:55.259 Just to hear even slight chuckles was a delight. 00:11:55.278 --> 00:11:55.980 No, I was dying. 00:11:55.980 --> 00:11:57.750 That's really really, really good. 00:11:57.750 --> 00:12:20.581 It is a hilarious concept and I just because and I think it's a very relatable concept, because everyone's been through it or seeing their kids go through it- Now I, as I was listening to it this time, couldn't help but just want to ask you about your puberty. 00:12:20.581 --> 00:12:23.634 Well then, your sisters. 00:12:23.634 --> 00:12:41.120 I don't have detailed memories of any of the stuff, but amanda and hill forced

me to shave my blonde peach fuzz, which made my mom so angry, because when you on your legs, on your legs and armpits oh and they were like. 00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:44.721 You know, you've got to do it since the time it was like what I have, like a few stories with them where they were like you've got to do it. 00:12:44.721 --> 00:12:45.001 It's the time. 00:12:45.001 --> 00:12:47.894 I have a few stories with them where they were like we're older than you. 00:12:47.894 --> 00:12:49.975 We're going to tell you what to do. 00:12:49.975 --> 00:12:52.035 We've got this covered. 00:12:52.269 --> 00:12:53.113 What is your birthday? 00:12:53.113 --> 00:12:57.028 If you don't mind me asking 1980. 00:12:57.028 --> 00:12:58.456 They're six months older. 00:12:58.750 --> 00:13:03.996 Yeah, but a school year older and in the summer, the age reflects a year older. 00:13:04.076 --> 00:13:04.697 It sure does. 00:13:04.697 --> 00:13:09.876 Okay, oh, so that's great. 00:13:09.876 --> 00:13:11.437 My sisters forced you to shave. 00:13:11.570 --> 00:13:12.150 And my mom. 00:13:12.150 --> 00:13:19.303 Her whole thing was like you never shave, because if you wax then you won't have dark hair growing back. 00:13:19.750 --> 00:13:21.668 Yeah, all the old wives tales and stuff. 00:13:21.809 --> 00:13:23.758 Well, it's kind of True, it's true. 00:13:23.758 --> 00:13:26.710 You're extremely hairy now is what you're saying. 00:13:26.710 --> 00:13:29.258 They ruined me at age 11. 00:13:29.258 --> 00:13:31.714 No, I don't know how old I was. 00:13:31.714 --> 00:13:33.998 You can blame them. 00:13:34.438 --> 00:13:34.960 That's funny. 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:36.403 Do you have a theory? 00:13:36.403 --> 00:13:39.078 So also let's reveal a little bit about you. 00:13:39.078 --> 00:13:40.556 What do you do for work Tag? 00:13:47.210 --> 00:13:52.264 I am a psychotherapist and social worker that works specifically with women who are victims of intimate partner violence Do a lot of them. 00:13:52.445 --> 00:13:53.408 Listen to Starting Stand-Up. 00:13:53.408 --> 00:13:55.711 I don't think so I don't think they do. 00:13:55.711 --> 00:14:16.592 No, I think, just as a side note, as I mentioned before Tegan's natural heart-open, compassionate letter on a path work-wise, that is very authentic and pure for what? 00:14:16.592 --> 00:14:18.875 We've always loved about her. 00:14:18.875 --> 00:14:30.187 But anyway, as a I guess, context for my question, what do you think is happening with this early puberty? 00:14:30.187 --> 00:14:31.090 Do you have any theories? 00:14:32.173 --> 00:14:32.273 Oh. 00:14:32.273 --> 00:14:41.639 Not that your job has anything to do with it, no, my job definitely doesn't, but I do think that it probably doesn't it definitely have a lot to do with the food Food. 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:41.879 Yeah. 00:14:42.360 --> 00:15:00.774 I would say environmental impacts are, and that includes diet and hormones that are in things and processed foods, and I don't know, like I can't get into the chemistry behind it, but I think that there's a lot of like evidence-based research about that. 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.985 One of the proudest things I am of my wife is that she was late menstruating. 00:15:04.985 --> 00:15:09.171 So I always consider she's, let's say she's. 00:15:09.171 --> 00:15:11.274 Let's say just for shits and giggles. 00:15:11.274 --> 00:15:12.274 She's 43. 00:15:12.274 --> 00:15:15.889 Yeah, she's actually 36, based on her menstruation. 00:15:18.841 --> 00:15:20.505 Wait, I feel like we're the same. 00:15:20.626 --> 00:15:21.549 She was like 15. 00:15:21.549 --> 00:15:25.789 I like to think she started menstruating when she was 19. 00:15:25.789 --> 00:15:30.725 She was 15, I think, but she was late, late. 00:15:30.846 --> 00:15:34.176 it's an inside joke that's not that funny, but anyway but I'm not a part of. 00:15:34.196 --> 00:15:35.299 No, yeah, yeah, no. 00:15:35.299 --> 00:15:37.908 It's something I whisper to her in intimate moments. 00:15:37.908 --> 00:15:43.528 It's not your business, and I'll thank you for staying out of it. 00:15:43.528 --> 00:15:48.644 Yeah, so it's just a, it's just a wild ride. 00:15:48.644 --> 00:15:51.907 And you know, look, my daughter's 13. 00:15:51.907 --> 00:15:54.403 She's now five, 10, and she's like early. 00:15:54.403 --> 00:16:04.087 Yeah, she's early, yeah, and I'm starting to like be like well, look, I mean I was told that I was going to be a minimum of six, seven, smoking an enormous amount of marijuana to try to. 00:16:04.087 --> 00:16:04.869 Is that true? 00:16:04.908 --> 00:16:08.855 No, I mean, I definitely when did you find out you're going to be 6'7"? 00:16:09.235 --> 00:16:09.655 13. 00:16:10.259 --> 00:16:11.303 That's what the doctor said. 00:16:11.985 --> 00:16:12.909 Oh yeah, you don't know that story. 00:16:13.280 --> 00:16:14.184 I think maybe I've heard it. 00:16:14.379 --> 00:16:17.346 Yeah, but it was one of the worst days of my life. 00:16:17.547 --> 00:16:18.067 Really. 00:16:18.369 --> 00:16:19.350 Oh yeah, I went in. 00:16:19.350 --> 00:16:20.552 He felt my balls. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.369 Evidentlyly, whatever he saw with my nuts, he determined that I had many more years of it's like um. 00:16:32.528 --> 00:16:39.066 I'd grown like I think my mom had fucked up the doctor's appointment, so in hindsight I think it was her fault. 00:16:39.066 --> 00:16:48.719 But basically I was five, four at the last checkup and I went into the new checkup 6 feet Wow. 00:16:48.719 --> 00:16:52.330 So for those keeping score, that's an 8 inches in one year. 00:16:52.330 --> 00:16:58.229 And the doctor was like good God, you know, you could sort of see it in his eyes Like wow. 00:16:58.721 --> 00:17:01.008 Wow, I can't believe you remember that appointment too. 00:17:01.008 --> 00:17:01.369 What? 00:17:01.690 --> 00:17:02.171 do you mean? 00:17:02.171 --> 00:17:04.950 It's literally one of the most seared memories of my life. 00:17:04.950 -->

00:17:15.371 I know, but as someone who doesn't remember anything, it's really fascinating to me yeah, yeah, puberty is when my memory came online okay I'm so excited about it. 00:17:15.371 --> 00:17:22.522 But anyway, uh, yeah he, he looked at my nuts and he goes you grew eight inches in one year and maybe it had been a year and a half and he didn't realize. 00:17:22.522 --> 00:17:25.615 But he goes, uh well you've got a lot of. 00:17:25.695 --> 00:17:30.508 You've got a few more years of this kind of growth looks like we're looking at a minimum of 6 10. 00:17:30.508 --> 00:18:03.182 I mean 6, 7, most likely 6, 10, potentially 7 feet and I was a hockey player who is six feet, and all I wanted to do was, like basically get to third base with girls, and I just immediately thought about being a freak you know, being like minute bowl and I got incredibly sad and depressed and I was driving home crying uh, it's like a little like my voice was still high and, uh, I got home and and everyone was like what's wrong with Dave? 00:18:03.943 --> 00:18:04.967 and he's like. 00:18:04.967 --> 00:18:09.867 My brother, will was back from college nine years older, so he was like 21, maybe just graduated from college. 00:18:09.928 --> 00:18:10.470 How tall is he? 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:11.683 He's 6'2". 00:18:12.005 --> 00:18:12.286 Okay. 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.912 And he was fully, like you know, a man at that point 21. 00:18:16.912 --> 00:18:29.598 And I remember being at the table like head down and my mom's like Dave's going to be 6'10", Sorry, and guess what. 00:18:29.779 --> 00:18:31.606 It's because I know the family so well. 00:18:32.059 --> 00:18:38.093 Yeah my brother Will didn't stop laughing for like four minutes, like he started crying laughing. 00:18:38.093 --> 00:18:40.826 And weirdly it just made me feel better. 00:18:41.027 --> 00:18:43.512 He was just like Okay, see, yeah, it was just like. 00:18:44.180 --> 00:18:45.505 And this is what people don't understand. 00:18:45.505 --> 00:18:50.125 You know, just you know, just you know, sibling cruelty can kind of feel good. 00:18:50.626 --> 00:18:54.461 You know well, because I can picture your sisters being like he's sad. 00:18:54.541 --> 00:19:07.414 Don't be, don't be don't dig it like whatever, and then that actually can make you yeah, and then you make jokes, you're like whatever, but it seems like it really the way that you remember it. 00:19:07.539 --> 00:19:09.929 It clearly had a large impact. 00:19:10.099 --> 00:19:16.726 You know no one except the best basketball players in the world wants to be 6'10". 00:19:16.726 --> 00:19:30.528 Nobody, I guess that's right, yeah, and anyway, I'm happy to say that I started ripping bong hits about two years later and we curbed it all and now I'm just 6'4 1⁄2", which is about a half inch. 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:32.185 Oh, you were 6'4 1⁄2". 00:19:32.185 --> 00:19:32.888 Yeah, okay. 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:34.305 Yeah, we curbed it. 00:19:34.305 --> 00:19:37.548 Okay, we curbed it with aggressive, aggressive drug use. 00:19:37.548 --> 00:19:39.765 No, that's not true. 00:19:39.765 --> 00:19:48.415 I think, honestly, the doctor was wrong and he just didn't realize how small my balls are, that's all right. 00:19:48.415 --> 00:19:52.048 All right, all right, we've hit our time limit. 00:19:52.990 --> 00:19:53.230 Okay. 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:54.384 We'll stick to it. 00:19:56.201 --> 00:19:58.592 I think this is absolutely lovely. 00:19:58.592 --> 00:19:59.455 I love it. 00:19:59.455 --> 00:20:00.885 It's very fun for me Very fun. 00:20:01.601 --> 00:20:02.765 So you've got Zoom. 00:20:03.488 --> 00:20:03.769 I do. 00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:09.018 So I think what we should do is, occasionally we should get on the horn, and I'll test some stuff out for you. 00:20:09.479 --> 00:20:09.640 Great. 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:10.500 And then we can. 00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:21.426 I mean, it won't be every week, but it'll be like, because obviously at 11 pm you're asleep on Wednesdays Actually not, but it's probably not my ideal. 00:20:21.426 --> 00:20:22.108 Do you have trouble sleeping? 00:20:22.108 --> 00:20:22.871 No, I'm a night owl. 00:20:22.871 --> 00:20:23.531 Oh, you are. 00:20:23.632 --> 00:20:26.839 I putz around the house between like late at night Really. 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:27.823 I listen to audio books. 00:20:28.023 --> 00:20:29.750 Tell me more, say more. 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.147 I just that's when I wake up. 00:20:32.619 --> 00:20:33.545 What time do you wake up? 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:35.862 Like I get my. 00:20:35.862 --> 00:20:44.355 No, I get my, like I get a very strong second wind almost every night of my life Late. 00:20:44.355 --> 00:20:48.681 So what's your ideal? 00:20:48.681 --> 00:20:49.804 I don't get enough sleep ever I'm very sleep deprived. 00:20:49.804 --> 00:20:52.570 Oh, you are always yes, that's why I was so proud to show you that day. 00:20:52.570 --> 00:20:53.622 I saw you at meditation. 00:20:53.662 --> 00:21:23.592 I had eight and a half hours oh wow, that's very rare very rare so give me a typical night of sleep for a typical night is me saying to my husband I know I've said this before, but like, please, I really need to get to bed early tonight and him being like, please, don't ever talk about how you want to go to bed early ever again, because it's a pathological thing where I'm like I need to get sleep, but then, without fail, I'm like but I feel so productive now I feel awake and I do stuff. 00:21:23.652 --> 00:21:25.942 You're nocturnal, yeah so I organize, I clean, I put things back where they belong. 00:21:25.942 --> 00:21:26.625 Or you've been to our house. 00:21:26.625 --> 00:21:27.326 I feel awake, yeah, and I do stuff. 00:21:27.326 --> 00:21:30.273 You're nocturnal, yeah, so I organize, I clean, I put things back where they belong. 00:21:30.273 --> 00:21:31.737 You've been to our house, it's big. 00:21:32.460 --> 00:21:36.010 It takes time, so why doesn't your husband just give you the blessing of sleeping in? 00:21:36.980 --> 00:21:39.607 Let's get him on the podcast and find out. 00:21:39.607 --> 00:21:40.170 Come on. 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:43.847 Charlie Charlie your life is about to go south. 00:21:43.847 --> 00:21:48.319 He has so many opinions. 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:48.681 No, you and. 00:21:48.701 --> 00:21:49.503 Mahan are the same. 00:21:49.503 --> 00:21:50.448 You're both nocturnal. 00:21:50.587 --> 00:21:50.769 Yeah. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.849 And when the kids are out of the house, you'll return to your natural rhythm. 00:21:54.741 --> 00:21:58.392 And in Charlie's defense on the weekends, he lets me sleep. 00:21:58.799 --> 00:21:59.744 He doesn't sleep in. 00:21:59.744 --> 00:22:00.207 Yeah. 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:00.800 I could. 00:22:00.800 --> 00:22:04.450 If there's no alarm, I'll just go 11, 12. 00:22:04.450 --> 00:22:05.633 Yeah two. 00:22:05.633 --> 00:22:07.864 No, never late, never go to two. 00:22:07.864 --> 00:22:09.750 No, eight is like late. 00:22:09.750 --> 00:22:12.880 Nine's amazing, ten, yeah, twelve's like crazy, oh tag. 00:22:13.801 --> 00:22:14.726 This has been beautiful. 00:22:14.726 --> 00:22:21.332 I think you know, as a side note, one of the guests I had, kevin Christie. 00:22:21.332 --> 00:22:24.441 I was like have you done a lot of podcasts? 00:22:24.441 --> 00:22:26.122 He's like have you done a lot of podcasts? 00:22:26.122 --> 00:22:26.922 He's like are you fucking kidding? 00:22:26.942 --> 00:22:27.522 He's a stand-up comedian. 00:22:27.522 --> 00:22:28.222 He's done a million. 00:22:28.442 --> 00:22:30.325 And I was like they're so nice. 00:22:30.325 --> 00:22:41.471 I just feel like I learned so much about you and he's like I actually think podcasts are basically an antidote to male loneliness and it's just like it's a formal way of getting to know someone you never would at a dinner party. 00:22:41.471 --> 00:22:47.575 You ask different questions and it has to be, it has to have a level of depth. 00:22:47.575 --> 00:22:48.435 It has. 00:22:48.435 --> 00:22:53.265 You have to find out about things and it, and it, it so, so, in a weird way. 00:22:53.265 --> 00:22:57.892 Podcasting is this beautiful way of getting to know your friends. 00:22:58.913 --> 00:23:00.759 All right, love you, peggy. 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:01.779 Bye, love you.