บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Is Alvaro Folgueiras Louisville's most underrated player? | 2026-27 Player Preview - Alvaro Folgueiras

I guess our first big man. 01:55.777 --> 01:58.558 [SPEAKER_02]: on the twenty twenty twenty twenty seven player preview series. 01:58.679 --> 01:59.579 [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow. 01:59.959 --> 02:05.782 [SPEAKER_02]: Folgaris okay how I'm not Keith our top he always brings out his beautiful accents when he says players names. 02:06.262 --> 02:07.523 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just trying to say it correctly. 02:07.623 --> 02:12.986 [SPEAKER_02]: I've all found garris and I don't know where the it's like a German Spanish accent that's coming out right now. 02:13.886 --> 02:14.546 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh... but we're 02:15.967 --> 02:16.187 [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead. 02:16.327 --> 02:35.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Spanish is all, well, the Spain might be different, but Spanish is pretty much like all the ease or the same sound all the use of the same sound pretty much like a you is the same sound now a you e i that's where I got tripped up as I'm like is this is it literally like I'm not trying to be funny, but is the sound like yay 02:36.517 --> 02:41.779 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's you have the those it's just it's interesting, right? 02:41.839 --> 02:43.920 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's full game rough. 02:44.040 --> 02:45.320 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I love it. 02:45.841 --> 02:47.701 [SPEAKER_01]: I know in Mexico it's like it's all the same. 02:47.741 --> 02:49.362 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's probably not the same in Europe. 02:49.862 --> 02:50.362 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right. 02:50.382 --> 02:55.344 [SPEAKER_00]: No longer short, no longer short, you know, vows and inspiration. 02:55.364 --> 02:55.905 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's all. 02:56.065 --> 02:56.565 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that. 02:56.585 --> 02:57.125 [SPEAKER_00]: It's consistent. 02:57.145 --> 03:03.407 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I can tell you there's going to be majority of fan base this year that turns around and they say, how about that full gear sky? 03:03.467 --> 03:04.888 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, or how about that soldiers? 03:05.048 --> 03:27.725 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, it's going to be just, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the 03:28.746 --> 03:29.067 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 03:29.107 --> 03:29.728 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a gym. 03:29.988 --> 03:30.489 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a gym. 03:30.529 --> 03:31.110 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. 03:31.510 --> 03:35.035 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan has been secretly asking for more praise when he has bars like that. 03:35.136 --> 03:39.562 [SPEAKER_02]: So we need to give Ryan more praise for him when he does

bars show like that. 03:40.023 --> 03:41.124 [SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to Ryan, man. 03:41.144 --> 03:43.007 [SPEAKER_02]: But let's let's talk a little bit about tomorrow. 03:43.768 --> 04:09.840 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, one of the more low key kind of under the radar transfer, uh, pickups for a little basketball this season, but that's when you put him next to some of the big names that little of a land that who will we've talked about and we'll continue to talk about on the show that Alvaro comes over from Iowa was a crucial piece to Iowa in that NCAA tournament run, including, of course, the the very notable game winning shot against Florida to send them on in the tournament and send Florida home. 04:10.640 --> 04:15.963 [SPEAKER_02]: But Alvaro has been really on the scene in the college basketball space now for a couple of years. 04:16.383 --> 04:22.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Was fantastic at Robert Morris, and was one of the best players in that conference, top to bottom at his time there. 04:23.167 --> 04:26.928 [SPEAKER_02]: And it has a really interesting kind of dynamic of a season, right? 04:26.988 --> 04:30.670 [SPEAKER_02]: He's off the bench, then a starter, he's playing 10 minutes, then 20 minutes. 04:31.131 --> 04:37.494 [SPEAKER_02]: But really, as he started to find his role that Iowa team with Ben McCollum really started to go 04:39.915 --> 04:41.216 [SPEAKER_02]: Great freaking head coach man. 04:41.436 --> 04:54.122 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's going to continue to soar and I'll go to places, but the way that he utilized Alvaro Fogurus and his offense last year is I mean almost I think identical to how Louisville will use him this year But let's just start what do we like guys? 04:54.142 --> 04:55.182 [SPEAKER_02]: What do we like about Alvaro? 04:55.222 --> 05:06.248 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously he's got size He brings over you know a lot of experience he's 610 to 30s played it two different places He's played in the big 10 knees performed he's played Robert Morris in performed 05:07.009 --> 05:07.891 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan, where I'll start with you. 05:07.911 --> 05:11.459 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you like about his game and how do you see him kind of translating into pet system? 05:11.499 --> 05:13.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that preferred likely starter at the four? 05:15.839 --> 05:30.147 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean the first thing that jumps off the page about Alvaro is that like it's another example of a guy that that fits PK system extremely well in a way that I don't know any bigs that we've had since he's been here have, you know what I mean? 05:30.267 --> 05:41.893 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, yeah, like I feel like in first season we saw some some like some Noah Waterman he was like kind of inconsistent from time to time but like he would pull up from outside kind of a versatile 05:42.533 --> 06:10.600 [SPEAKER_00]: Big, ended up being the butt of a few jokes throughout the year, you know, but for, this is like, I mean, last year, maybe Ali Khalifa, kind of

a similar versatile kind of a stretch, style big, but I mean, when we think of a Euro style, you know, kind of a stretch for type player that would thrive in a Pat Kelsey offense, this is the kind of guy we've been talking about. 06:11.180 --> 06:18.282 [SPEAKER_00]: this is the kind of guy that can stretch the offense, can shoot from from outside. 06:18.982 --> 06:23.823 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously hit that game winner against against Florida and the tournament that was awesome. 06:23.883 --> 06:36.145 [SPEAKER_00]: He saw his three-point shooting kind of dip a little bit when he went to Iowa, but going to Iowa he was seen as the versatile stretch big man because partially because of what his his three-point 06:40.226 --> 06:41.628 [SPEAKER_00]: 41 and a half percent. 06:43.070 --> 06:43.570 [SPEAKER_00]: So good. 06:43.991 --> 06:51.819 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this is the kind of guy that fits really well in a PK offense, and his facilitating is really good too. 06:51.859 --> 06:56.043 [SPEAKER_00]: I think when we were talking about getting him earlier this year, I'd like to talk about getting him earlier this year. 06:56.824 --> 07:03.650 [SPEAKER_00]: I talked about how well I think he pairs with for you, but don't get down low because that high low interaction. 07:03.690 --> 07:09.155 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a really good facilitator, a really good shot maker, and it kind of do it all guy. 07:09.276 --> 07:15.922 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see him take that Javan hadly style role this year, and as a 610 big man, I think he can do it really well. 07:16.002 --> 07:18.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Also shout out to my wife, she just brought me to pasta. 07:20.386 --> 07:24.169 [SPEAKER_01]: He said it was going to sneak that in. 07:24.589 --> 07:28.453 [SPEAKER_01]: We said before the show Ryan was joking about calling it tapasta. 07:28.513 --> 07:37.401 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew you're going to sneak that in somewhere Ryan just dropped in bars, not the tapasta is a bar, but Ryan just dropped and I mean, I really like everything you said. 07:37.421 --> 07:38.822 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad you covered that angle 07:39.583 --> 07:43.046 [SPEAKER_01]: because on the defensive side, I think he fits perfectly. 07:43.206 --> 07:47.730 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is a guy that, this is the guy that keeps me up at night with his ceiling. 07:48.370 --> 07:52.093 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Carter Knox, it's, it's honestly not flooring. 07:52.253 --> 07:54.315 [SPEAKER_01]: These are guys that I, I know pretty much what I'm going to get. 07:55.015 --> 07:58.799 [SPEAKER_01]: Alvaro Fogarras, you know, I have in the pecking order of scoring. 07:59.692 --> 08:10.379 [SPEAKER_01]: every talking about offense a little bit i have him like maybe six down there seven which isn't not too shabby right we don't need him to come in and be an explosive you know offensive weapon but this is a guy like 08:11.532 --> 08:22.583 [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, I mean, on the defense event, if he can make a huge difference, guarding the perimeter at the four, if you run into teams in some teams, he's going to be able to guard the three, specifically, right? 08:23.244 --> 08:32.093 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy down 64 that was a four, and it's going to be probably a three, he might play a little bit of four at that school. 08:32.593 --> 08:33.614 [SPEAKER_01]: He was recruited here, 08:34.627 --> 08:39.730 [SPEAKER_01]: to be a three because that's probably what he's going to be in the NBA, but you can bet your ass. 08:40.590 --> 08:44.932 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll borrow full garrison's going to be guarding that dude, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, chill a bitch. 08:45.072 --> 08:47.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Just a name one guy that can shoot the shit out of the bomb. 08:48.454 --> 08:48.674 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 08:48.714 --> 08:53.676 [SPEAKER_01]: Now one thing I'll borrow brings to you, I swear to God, this was a blue prince. 08:53.897 --> 08:56.778 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to go get this guy from John and to check. 08:59.026 --> 09:00.687 [SPEAKER_01]: take a shot. 09:01.107 --> 09:08.192 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I say that because he's not exactly like side-to-side, laterally quick, especially on defense. 09:08.532 --> 09:14.477 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to get to the rack like what you said Javan hadly wasn't either, but he's not terribly slow. 09:15.197 --> 09:17.759 [SPEAKER_01]: closing out and he's got very quick hands. 09:17.980 --> 09:22.844 [SPEAKER_01]: He can make a play, you know, to get a loose ball, to create offense from defense. 09:22.884 --> 09:24.205 [SPEAKER_01]: He can steal the ball. 09:24.746 --> 09:27.968 [SPEAKER_01]: He will block a three pointer or two, you know, out there. 09:28.529 --> 09:32.112 [SPEAKER_01]: It just depends on who and like you said, I'm having that size and that kind of 09:33.233 --> 09:36.815 [SPEAKER_01]: going back and forth, like up and down, not side to side so much. 09:37.415 --> 09:41.837 [SPEAKER_01]: I think is gonna make a difference when you realize on defense, you covered all of this, right? 09:41.877 --> 09:42.677 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll just take it this way. 09:43.198 --> 09:48.420 [SPEAKER_01]: That makes a difference when you realize who's what the philosophy is of John Endercheck? 09:48.700 --> 09:49.701 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, this will be the last one. 09:50.561 --> 09:51.021 [SPEAKER_01]: Take a shot. 09:51.621 --> 09:52.622 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is no middle. 09:53.523 --> 10:08.695 [SPEAKER_01]: right and what that is they're going to push people out of the paint they're going to push people to decide line so if you can get a guy like Alvaro to sell out on a guy that's on shooters maybe maybe he can guard the three or the four not going to guard the five too much and definitely not the two not the one he'll get saw stub. 10:09.542 --> 10:15.365 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you can count on him to close out and make shooters uncomfortable, it's definitely a guy like I said. 10:15.605 --> 10:21.727 [SPEAKER_01]: It's

one that the mouse in my brain really really wants me to believe that this team can go to crazy heights. 10:21.787 --> 10:25.109 [SPEAKER_01]: If he can be a step above what we all think you can be. 10:25.409 --> 10:26.749 [SPEAKER_01]: I am so excited about this guy. 10:26.910 --> 10:27.730 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to adopt him. 10:32.658 --> 10:35.239 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like a baby face too. 10:35.279 --> 10:40.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've seen some of the recent, I don't know, I was watching game day when they heard not game day. 10:40.202 --> 10:41.962 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the ACC. 10:42.002 --> 10:42.903 [SPEAKER_00]: He was doing the shoot. 10:43.203 --> 10:43.963 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he'll solve. 10:44.584 --> 10:46.504 [SPEAKER_00]: They were doing some kind of challenge or whatever. 10:47.285 --> 10:49.806 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of young. 10:49.866 --> 10:54.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he definitely seems like the kind of guy that can they can grow a lot in this system. 10:54.068 --> 10:56.269 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's one of the narratives I'm watching on this. 10:56.969 --> 11:17.687 [SPEAKER_00]: on this roster this team with a lot of guys honestly, but I think especially with Alvaro because you could tell from times last year when Ben McCollum we were just talking about fantastic coach didn't quite put all of his eggs in that Alvaro basket and you know kind of got to the tournament let him let him loose let him run and do his thing and you saw how well he 11:19.208 --> 11:36.210 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, leaned into that how much he thrived when he was kind of empowered a little bit more and I mean we know what kind of coach PK is and so I'm I'm just excited to see how this guy takes the the culture and the I mean one would assume he's a starter and so that that gives him ample opportunity. 11:37.447 --> 11:38.128 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no doubt. 11:38.268 --> 11:47.398 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's a lot of things that he's going to bring to this little roster this year that Alec Khalifa provided in small bursts last year. 11:47.438 --> 11:56.888 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like Alec Khalifa crawled so that although Fogarra could run type of situation here, you're going to see a lot of point forward, a lot of handling the ball at the top of the key. 11:57.268 --> 12:07.075 [SPEAKER_02]: lot of offense running through him and he is a fantastic passer just like Ali you're going to see maybe not so much of the who-deenie magic passes that we saw where you're just like how to hell that he do that. 12:07.736 --> 12:19.024 [SPEAKER_02]: But you're going to see a guy that sees the floor in a way that most pigs don't and provide that kind of European flair of just really sound basketball and being a really smart cerebral player. 12:19.044 --> 12:22.667 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that you know as we've talked about guys being able to 12:25.629 --> 12:33.214 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that boads well for Jackson Shelstead and Adrian Woolly and

opportunities for them to play off of the ball and play different lineups if you're P.K. 12:33.634 --> 12:45.461 [SPEAKER_02]: If you have Garb, you know, if there's foul trouble at the guard position, there's a lot of different ways that you can play, but I think that, you know, from three point shooting when he gets shots and rhythm, he can be a really solid shooter. 12:46.141 --> 12:50.704 [SPEAKER_02]: He can obviously stretch the floor and really that offers so much opportunity for, for 12:52.445 --> 13:04.733 [SPEAKER_02]: getting the ball and back to basket back to the basket situations or just having the the kind of runway to get a lot of those offensive rebounds and putbacks without you know running into his teammates or opposing defenders being down there. 13:05.594 --> 13:08.676 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a really unique kind of addition to this roster. 13:09.436 --> 13:12.018 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not necessarily a great rebounder. 13:12.198 --> 13:13.459 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not in my opinion. 13:13.499 --> 13:15.060 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's a great defender. 13:15.100 --> 13:16.621 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll kind of touch on that here in a second. 13:16.961 --> 13:22.308 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the thing is, he's infinitely better than what Ali Khalifa was last year. 13:22.708 --> 13:32.501 [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of being able to slide his feet, being able to impact on the defensive end, he's not a shot blocker by any means, not even though. 13:32.521 --> 13:34.523 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're really relying on him to just 13:35.284 --> 13:37.045 [SPEAKER_02]: hold up and just be solid. 13:37.626 --> 13:44.730 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that you can put him in this, you know, an line up with Cardanox and with Florian with some of the other defensive guys on the roster. 13:45.210 --> 13:49.153 [SPEAKER_02]: And you can really make sure that he doesn't have to be put in those vulnerable situations. 13:49.193 --> 13:50.854 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's going to ultimately 13:51.893 --> 13:52.773 [SPEAKER_02]: help him so much. 13:53.293 --> 14:00.315 [SPEAKER_02]: The other factor is his, his clutch gene, his, the dog in him, if you will, the guy is not afraid of the moment. 14:00.395 --> 14:04.576 [SPEAKER_02]: He wants the ball in his hands and sometimes really like, bro, hey, we, we love you for that. 14:04.596 --> 14:06.336 [SPEAKER_02]: But we want the ball in someone else's hands. 14:06.917 --> 14:07.977 [SPEAKER_02]: We know you want the ball. 14:08.017 --> 14:12.818 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's a situation where you never have to worry about him being afraid of the moment. 14:13.178 --> 14:19.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I go back to the Creighton game in your one where Noah Waterman was petrified to shoot the ball. 14:19.980 --> 14:20.701 [SPEAKER_02]: Just petrified. 14:20.721 --> 14:21.881 [SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't shoot the ball at all. 14:22.001 --> 14:23.242 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, just was wide open. 14:23.262 --> 14:25.482 [SPEAKER_02]: And Alvaro is not that guy. 14:25.542 --> 14:32.285 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a guy that's going to take advantage of moments and be, you know, chirping and playing with physicality and playing hard. 14:32.945 --> 14:36.647 [SPEAKER_02]: and constantly kind of being that high motor player that's impacting the game. 14:37.048 --> 14:38.488 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, defensively, real quick. 14:38.588 --> 14:39.309 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me switch to this. 14:39.849 --> 14:40.650 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you Alan. 14:40.690 --> 14:43.471 [SPEAKER_02]: I think in Pat's, in Pat, in John Intercheck System. 14:43.771 --> 14:44.812 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get my drink in real quick. 14:44.832 --> 14:45.512 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Ryan. 14:45.552 --> 14:46.133 [SPEAKER_02]: Get your drink in. 14:46.153 --> 14:47.814 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't get to sit this one out, bro. 14:48.094 --> 14:49.355 [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't optional. 14:49.495 --> 14:50.475 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you're talking about. 14:51.476 --> 14:58.940 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think a lot of defenses are going to, or a lot of opposing offenses are going to try to find ways to pick on Alvaro from a 15:01.102 --> 15:03.303 [SPEAKER_02]: they're playing defenses where they have to switch. 15:03.564 --> 15:09.949 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to see him really struggle and you're going to see kind of like that Illinois game in the I was at the Elite eight. 15:10.269 --> 15:19.998 [SPEAKER_02]: Where he played 11 minutes and it was because he just couldn't guard anybody there was just no way he was staying in front of those that the Illinois wings and and guards. 15:20.558 --> 15:25.125 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that if he gets put in those situations, you'll see him just be unplayable. 15:25.846 --> 15:35.560 [SPEAKER_02]: You just won't be able to put him in and you'll have to rely on other players that are more versatile if the defense starts to pick, pinpoint him on picking roles and really go after him. 15:35.880 --> 15:40.082 [SPEAKER_02]: But with the system defensively that they're going to play from our guy, J.A. 15:40.763 --> 15:42.223 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll avoid a drink in that situation. 15:42.243 --> 15:43.124 [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't the full name. 15:43.364 --> 15:44.625 [SPEAKER_02]: So, well, J.A. 15:44.645 --> 15:45.765 [SPEAKER_02]: when I need a break for a second. 15:46.126 --> 15:53.049 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that it's going to offer him a lot of opportunities to play within his skillset defensively and not have to do that. 15:53.390 --> 15:54.210 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a great hedgeer. 15:54.570 --> 15:55.150 [SPEAKER_02]: Really smart. 15:55.170 --> 15:56.771 [SPEAKER_02]: It gets his hands up for deflections. 15:57.031 --> 15:57.672 [SPEAKER_02]: It's physical. 15:58.532 --> 16:04.355 [SPEAKER_02]: But just not a great slider of feet in those pick and roll scenarios, which is really modern basketball in the state of age. 16:05.916 --> 16:10.738 [SPEAKER_00]: on his like, I agree that he gets a

little bit exposed when it comes to his lateral speed. 16:10.818 --> 16:26.763 [SPEAKER_00]: So I agree that I don't really like him garden out on the perimeter, but I also think that one of the main reasons that he was kind of unplayable and a bin McCallum obviously very high prioritizing defense style system there, and Iowa was because he was playing the five. 16:27.463 --> 16:33.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so like part of me wonders if it's going to be at the four, like he will, I don't know. 16:33.247 --> 16:47.155 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to because he's probably going to be guarding more at the perimeter at the four spot, but yeah, I guess my question is like, do you think that playing at the four is going to make him a better defensive player than he was last year? 16:48.095 --> 16:50.556 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll jump back a little quick on this one now and I'll be quick. 16:50.576 --> 16:52.236 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll let you kind of own this. 16:52.356 --> 16:53.436 [SPEAKER_02]: I think yes, absolutely. 16:53.456 --> 17:09.139 [SPEAKER_02]: The versatility of playing at that spot versus the just absolute ground and pound nature of the big ten and the giant colossal centers that play there that are just absolutely horses in the paint versus, you know, and not everyone applies for that, but versus, you know, 17:12.820 --> 17:21.864 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Big Ten certainly doesn't in its own right, but I think the physicality will be a little bit easier in the ACC for him to kind of handle versus the Big Ten. 17:21.884 --> 17:25.926 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think he'll thrive in that spot, comparative to what he was when he had to play the five. 17:26.166 --> 17:27.547 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to, I was going to kind of, um... 17:28.647 --> 17:58.234 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's sort of like the alleyway I was going with is that, you know, the ACC, like some of the teams we play, you know, sure, they're going to, I mean, I anticipate, I have no idea, but I anticipate, like Boston College being like more physical than we anticipate this year, just based on, you know, like the Luke Murray and, you know, things he's going to bring with him from Yukon and things like that, like, I anticipate a dog fight sort of like, you know, on certain plays where he's going to pick on a guy's like, like, I'll borrow, you know, on the on the defensive end. 17:58.674 --> 18:05.375 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think like, like overall, you can look at, you know, like just the big dogs that we need to go up against. 18:05.495 --> 18:07.916 [SPEAKER_01]: You could get schemes to death by Virginia. 18:08.256 --> 18:09.356 [SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing, right? 18:10.016 --> 18:11.297 [SPEAKER_01]: But they're going to play free. 18:11.517 --> 18:12.977 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these teams just play free. 18:13.657 --> 18:15.397 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, where it's not as methodical. 18:15.577 --> 18:17.538 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to try to attack different people. 18:18.038 --> 18:21.278

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people might try to take glory out of the game, you know, things like that. 18:21.338 --> 18:23.519 [SPEAKER_01]: So I do think and not that. 18:24.319 --> 18:44.367 [SPEAKER_01]: not to say that well, you know, he did well at Robert Morris because they played in that conference and, you know, he got beat up in the big 10 because of that conference and, you know, he's going to score 12 points again because he's in the ACC, but like you could see a trajectory where in just in my opinion, I think it was a really smart move because he could shoot it so well, he has a history of shooting so well. 18:44.847 --> 18:56.070 [SPEAKER_01]: So on the defensive end, yeah, there's going to be games where, um, you know, dischained is going to be, you know, you're going to have to slide in certain places and all borrow might not, you know, be able to, you know, hack it or what have you. 18:56.090 --> 19:05.992 [SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, I think, I think he's a starter and I think like his minutes, not that they have a cap to him, because of defense, but I think like, you know, in some games, 19:06.672 --> 19:08.734 [SPEAKER_01]: the way you put it, especially conference play. 19:08.754 --> 19:12.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even games like Texas, like out the gate, you know what I mean? 19:13.117 --> 19:16.559 [SPEAKER_01]: Where like you just have season coaches that are just gonna go after them. 19:16.579 --> 19:17.740 [SPEAKER_01]: So like that's a fair point. 19:18.281 --> 19:22.163 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, Marcus Piers Jr. Is that, is that, is that his first name? 19:22.183 --> 19:24.365 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not Marcus Piers Jr. Is that his first name? 19:24.405 --> 19:24.725 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 19:25.086 --> 19:30.370 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's a, the kid from Texas that reclassified, I'm blanking on if that's actually his first name. 19:30.430 --> 19:32.991 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, give me, give me two seconds to confirm that. 19:33.031 --> 19:33.612 [SPEAKER_02]: Marcus Piers Jr. 19:33.812 --> 19:34.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I wasn't wrong. 19:34.492 --> 19:36.834 [SPEAKER_02]: So I go together if you're well, if you're a big ESPN guy. 19:37.474 --> 19:48.821 [SPEAKER_02]: But he was at the number one player in the class 27, reclassified in the 26 is a six foot seven, 195 pound power forward, you know, would be a top five pick in the draft, if eligible. 19:49.082 --> 19:51.503 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think Alvaro will have to match up with a guy like that. 19:51.703 --> 19:54.805 [SPEAKER_02]: Or when you go up against Michigan, they're gonna have some really unique matchups. 19:55.526 --> 19:56.446 [SPEAKER_02]: The one for me is Duke. 19:56.606 --> 20:02.030 [SPEAKER_02]: Like when you go to Duke and you have to play, Patrick and Longa, and then you come to us. 20:02.690 --> 20:12.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or just in general, sorry, when you have to match up with him, but then they can be kid from Spain, Joe Kim, Vonte Bonte, that was going to be really tough matchups for him. 20:12.240 --> 20:20.488 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, those will be ones where we really see if he can handle kind of that next level athleticism and that ability to hold some of those bigger names. 20:21.088 --> 20:38.150 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but but I think the bigger the biggest staying with with allvaro in general is the fit with for a bedonga Like I think that's the thing that we it cannot emphasize enough, and I can't wait to see But the guys do just totally different things and every skill 20:38.851 --> 21:03.732 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... compliments the other skill but also compliments the others weaknesses so their ability to play interchangeably will be very interesting i think his ability to play interchangeably with the benak has a junior will be interesting again the same type of thing but just more size down low i mean seven foot one seven foot two six ten the nuts that's it an insane level of size and versatility and you know gave dines but also 21:04.372 --> 21:22.428 [SPEAKER_02]: and small burst of arrow can be your five and he can provide you with some minutes there if you really want to spread the ball out and go five out because look we'll we'll talk about this in the flory episode but flory is going to offer you absolutely zero three point shooting zero so if you're not playing him alvaro 21:23.188 --> 21:27.752 [SPEAKER_02]: And same with Elbina right I mean he's gonna knock some down, but he is not at three point shooter at the college level. 21:28.112 --> 21:36.758 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think when Louisville has to play with Elvaro at the five, that's gonna allow them to work in guys like to shame on Gummery, maybe in LJ Wells. 21:37.179 --> 21:52.490 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, those kind of players and just have a lot of versatility in their lineup and that's gonna do wonders for Pat and what he plays night tonight, match up to match up and the ability to just, you know, really flex on that lineup with the pieces they have overall. 21:52.750 --> 21:58.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you talk a little bit about that you guys are both talked about the Flori Alvaro complimenting each other. 21:59.093 --> 22:04.115 [SPEAKER_01]: I think one thing we're going to see a lot more of this year that I think really good teams have done well. 22:04.255 --> 22:09.497 [SPEAKER_01]: I like if you look at some of the final 14s even in the past few years, they've done a really good high low with their legs. 22:10.117 --> 22:25.811 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not all just, you know, inside and then find the free point shooter and then drive the basket, you know, with with certain teams that have made it far, it's, you know, Alvaro may be getting it in the mid post and, you know, maybe it's on the baseline or something like that and, you know, 22:32.156 --> 22:37.139 [SPEAKER_01]: Not saying better than, you know, some of the guys, some of the bigger, better pastors we've had, you know what I mean? 22:37.179 -->

22:43.422 [SPEAKER_01]: But, like, I think he fits perfectly as far as, like, you know, trying to emphasize like different ways. 22:43.542 --> 22:49.225 [SPEAKER_01]: Pat always said, I wanted the Isaac McNeely quote from last year, where he's like, Pat wants us to be creative. 22:49.845 --> 23:01.350 [SPEAKER_01]: There's not a set thing like you go here, you go here like not any more anyway, especially with, you know, Pat Kelsey's mindset and philosophy on offense and so like I think you'll see a lot of that a lot of sneaking around. 23:02.130 --> 23:07.092 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Florey is like we'll get into him, but he's very he's athletic enough to hide in the Dunkerspot. 23:07.432 --> 23:12.434 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Alvaro is clever enough to find him on on, you know, a few different looks different occasions. 23:13.187 --> 23:15.589 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's a hockey assist. 23:15.649 --> 23:16.510 [SPEAKER_00]: Highlight real. 23:16.850 --> 23:26.077 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, like cry at the end of the season, like the dude is just constantly one step ahead on offense and just seeing the next pass is funny. 23:26.117 --> 23:40.069 [SPEAKER_00]: When I, I think I, I quote, we did like one of the, the tweets that locals, their Twitter account put out of like, wooly out on a fast break, but I didn't even, I was like, because I was hyping up wooly in that clip, but Alvaro did like a no look. 23:40.609 --> 23:43.990 [SPEAKER_00]: three like almost the entire court passed to get it to them. 23:44.470 --> 23:57.835 [SPEAKER_00]: I love like I can't wait to see him like do some transition passing like out of you know you catch a rebound and just throw it down down the court to jacks and sell stud who's already burned everybody you know what I mean that's the outlet pass is going to be awesome. 23:58.495 --> 24:04.942 [SPEAKER_02]: give me some Kevin Love Outlet passes in this offense and the ability to rebound and just get down the other side of the floor in seconds. 24:05.343 --> 24:18.237 [SPEAKER_02]: But as we get to the end of this episode, we've talked a lot about strengths, we've talked about how it fits, we've talked about production and points and rebounds, but I want to dive a little bit deeper into where the ultimate production is going to end up and I think that 24:18.717 --> 24:28.223 [SPEAKER_02]: the statistic I'm about to give you right here will really kind of help shed light on what Pat Kelsey needs from from Alvaro in terms of minutes played to be at his best, okay? 24:28.583 --> 24:31.424 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to we'll call this the 20 minute threshold here. 24:31.705 --> 24:36.267 [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is much like Adrian will only when we talked about his minutes. 24:36.687 --> 24:40.550 [SPEAKER_02]: There is a level of data that supports that when Alvaro 24:43.151 --> 24:49.133 [SPEAKER_02]: 18 games last year at Iowa, he scores over 10 and a half points per game on 53% shooting. 24:49.833 --> 24:59.696 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was evident in his 14.5 rebounds performance against Florida, 15.8 rebounds against Oregon last year, a 20-point game against Ohio State and 25 minutes. 25:00.056 --> 25:08.698 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you see him, and I think in his final 11 games of the regular season, he played over 25 minutes in every game, and average double figures, like over 11 points to that stretch. 25:09.118 --> 25:10.319 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the Alvaro Fogger. 25:10.339 --> 25:11.359 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're getting this year. 25:11.939 --> 25:34.422 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that will bend and flex a little bit, but I think that Pat says, okay, this is a guy that needs to play 20 plus minutes every single night, except for nights where he has no shot going for him and he can't guard a parked car like on nights like that, you know, that you're obviously going to have to make adjustments, but I think this is a guy that they say the more minutes the better for him because he's going to produce with each and every one of those. 25:34.782 --> 25:41.930 [SPEAKER_02]: from a scoring perspective, but also in other ways, from rebounding and throwing, you know, some really crazy assists that I just, I can't wait for, man. 25:42.031 --> 25:42.471 [SPEAKER_02]: I cannot wait. 25:42.631 --> 25:49.259 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so like last year, just to be clear about, you know, what you're getting as far as like a productive guy on the floor. 25:49.299 --> 25:49.759 [SPEAKER_01]: Last year, 25:50.400 --> 25:56.422 [SPEAKER_01]: not to keep calling out the school down 64, but like they were hard after Avaro, right? 25:56.742 --> 25:57.622 [SPEAKER_01]: Because of y'all. 25:58.162 --> 26:00.743 [SPEAKER_01]: And no offense, like I'm not even no offense. 26:00.803 --> 26:04.864 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can be honest and say Mark Pope can draw up some shit on offense. 26:04.884 --> 26:06.765 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's a very smart offensive coach. 26:07.325 --> 26:10.526 [SPEAKER_01]: So like he would have been probably a pretty good fit there too. 26:10.806 --> 26:13.046 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Kelsey's really smart offensive coach too. 26:13.066 --> 26:14.807 [SPEAKER_01]: So like this isn't just some like 26:15.867 --> 26:21.431 [SPEAKER_01]: The joke on him is he's a Iowa bench player or Atlanta Hawks, whichever way, you know, you flip that. 26:22.372 --> 26:29.637 [SPEAKER_01]: But like I think he could fit into so many different offenses seamlessly, just just based on the different things that he can do. 26:29.657 --> 26:41.425 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not that explosive, but like I said, like, I mean, in he this year, he wasn't the only one that we that was hard after or Kentucky was the only one that was hard after I'm last year and this year so many other basic schools were too. 26:41.445 --> 26:41.625 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:41.845 --> 26:43.967 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the versatility is there. 26:44.508 --> 26:46.130 [SPEAKER_02]: The shot making is there. 26:46.410 -->

26:54.238 [SPEAKER_02]: The all the intangibles are there, but for him, it's can you bring it all together consistently over the course of a full season at the power for level, right? 26:54.258 --> 26:56.320 [SPEAKER_02]: Because we saw that with Robert Morris that he did. 26:56.780 --> 26:57.902 [SPEAKER_02]: The last year at Iowa, 26:58.702 --> 26:59.863 [SPEAKER_02]: a little bit of up and down. 27:00.023 --> 27:04.344 [SPEAKER_02]: Some of that line up base, some of that, you know, strength and weakness base. 27:04.764 --> 27:21.029 [SPEAKER_02]: But Alvaro Fogueras comes to Louisville with a big opportunity to really put his stamp on this team and really be one of those highlight generators in a way that isn't necessarily where he's dunking on people or hitting crazy shots, but he's still in great passes. 27:21.049 --> 27:24.430 [SPEAKER_02]: He makes that he dives on the ball on the floor for loose ball and 27:27.111 --> 27:29.313 [SPEAKER_00]: that might have been my favorite part from the floor to game. 27:29.393 --> 27:29.693 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 27:29.713 --> 27:36.017 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I didn't hit that game winner, which was awesome, but like, if you go back and watch him, just get into it without it's condon on the floor. 27:36.077 --> 27:38.579 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, maybe like, get kicked out of the game, but I love that. 27:38.599 --> 27:39.259 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:39.279 --> 27:40.380 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, like, you played your buddy. 27:40.400 --> 27:41.641 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right. 27:41.801 --> 27:43.923 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's got some little little edge to it right there. 27:44.083 --> 27:51.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I, yeah, I think that fans are going to really come to enjoy what he brings offensively. 27:52.008 --> 28:04.635 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to see some fans throughout the year concerned about his defensive prowess as teams attack him, knowing that he will be like guys, he will be the weak link in a five-man starting line up defensively because of how good the other four are defensively. 28:04.715 --> 28:06.856 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the thing about this team that's so far. 28:07.296 --> 28:11.359 [SPEAKER_02]: He's your worst defender in a starting five line up, but that's not bad because he's not a bad defender. 28:11.559 --> 28:12.699 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just not a great defender. 28:13.180 --> 28:18.923 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of opportunity to move him around, play different positions, provide versatility, play other guys around him, 28:19.643 --> 28:37.649 [SPEAKER_02]: But can he make that jump from the big 10 to the ACC with more minutes, more opportunity, or do you see an increase usage rate lead to more turnovers, more fouls, he did have a fouling issue that is kind of one of his big things defensively with not being able to slide his feet and not being an overly physical guy. 28:38.610 --> 28:44.432 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that the question for our YouTube audience and our audio audience and our social media folks and everything is 28:45.252 --> 28:47.315 [SPEAKER_02]: is he the most underrated player on this little roster. 28:47.895 --> 28:49.658 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you can make the argument that he is. 28:49.778 --> 28:57.788 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I mean, Adrian Mulley's in the mix there to shame my memory card and ox, but what I'll borrow is going to offer is going to be tremendous. 28:58.008 --> 29:02.734 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't have to come with scoring the basketball time and it comes with making your offense better. 29:02.834 --> 29:03.395 [SPEAKER_02]: And I love that. 29:03.595 --> 29:07.977 [SPEAKER_02]: I love a good passing big man who can knock down a three, but isn't a ball stopper. 29:08.097 --> 29:10.338 [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't need the ball on his hands to be successful all the time. 29:10.358 --> 29:11.779 [SPEAKER_02]: It can be a spot-up guy. 29:11.799 --> 29:16.061 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to have a fantastic season as long as he stays out of foul trouble. 29:16.481 --> 29:19.503 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't find himself in less than ideal defensive matchups. 29:19.663 --> 29:20.543 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:20.823 --> 29:23.925 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's the most underrated because he's a starter. 29:24.365 --> 29:29.888 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think, again, I said this at the beginning of the podcast, he is the player that, for me, 29:30.568 --> 29:47.802 [SPEAKER_01]: The ceiling of this team, it doesn't depend on him doing well, but like, wow, what could we be like, my mind wanders and wanders what we could be if he is much better than we think he's going to be if he has a way bigger role than he had then then we think he's going to have that's what I'm going to. 29:48.462 --> 29:53.066 [SPEAKER_02]: He's my, he's my, what if, guy, what if he does this, right? 29:53.406 --> 29:58.069 [SPEAKER_02]: What the, I just, I got at any time I hear a wonder, I just get a little Kanye West. 29:58.390 --> 30:01.212 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you singing, you're not, are you singing the slackers? 30:01.472 --> 30:01.812 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not. 30:02.292 --> 30:03.734 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know, it's a sample for him. 30:03.974 --> 30:08.357 [SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine that that probably is who that is, but my music tastes is rap music and that's it. 30:08.417 --> 30:09.438 [SPEAKER_02]: So I have no idea. 30:09.778 --> 30:25.565 [SPEAKER_02]: who who that isn't what that means, but I don't know could be well that'll do it here starting five or two podcasts great episode exciting season ahead and we'll continue to preview more players will have will hanky preview with will hanky yeah we'll be back with the boy on 30:30.767 --> 30:41.476 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got a lot of great episodes coming over the next couple of days and weeks, so be sure to lock in, turn those notifications on, subscribe to the YouTube channel, subscribe to starting 502 anywhere you get your podcasts from. 30:42.116 --> 30:47.841 [SPEAKER_02]: Be sure to follow us on social at the state of blue, at card and now at card in underscore out. 30:47.921 --> 30:49.202 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's right, right? 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