บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Party with the StarTalk All-Stars and Neil deGrasse Tyson _ Full Episode

Roku, Amazon Fire, 85 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.750 and Apple TV. So it's a very cool service. Startalkallaccess.com. 86 00:03:40.770 --> 00:03:42.370 You should subscribe and check it out. So if you 87 00:03:42.389 --> 00:03:43.789 want to know what it feels like to sit down 88 00:03:43.830 --> 00:03:48.550 and have a drink with an astronaut, an astrobiologist, and 89 00:03:48.629 --> 00:03:52.039 an astrophysicist who just happens to be the world's foremost 90 00:03:52.259 --> 00:03:57.379 science educator, and also some other dude, then this. 91 00:03:58.740 --> 00:04:01.919 Is for you. And a comedian. Yeah, and a comedian. 92 00:04:02.460 --> 00:04:05.810 And some comedian. This is for you. So with that, 93 00:04:06.669 --> 00:04:08.419 Let's do this. Let's do this. 94 00:04:11.150 --> 00:04:14.430 All right, so we are here at the StarTalk All-Stars party, 95 00:04:14.729 --> 00:04:19.149 and I'm sitting right now with the actual all-star of all-stars, 96 00:04:19.529 --> 00:04:22.430 which is our progenitor, and that would be Dr. Neil 97 00:04:22.449 --> 00:04:23.310 deGrasse Tyson. 98 00:04:24.709 --> 00:04:25.410 Are you not? 99 00:04:25.589 --> 00:04:26.230 Thanks, Dad. 100 00:04:26.250 --> 00:04:30.189 Are you not? Are you not the progenitor of StarTalk, please? 101 00:04:30.310 --> 00:04:31.750 It sounds so antiseptic. 102 00:04:32.069 --> 00:04:33.769 Well, you know what? I don't want to call you Dad. 103 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:39.079 I got father issues. No, here's the deal. So, you know, 104 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:41.329 I thought it would be great to... First of all, 105 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.519 and with some entertainment, and that's why we have Dr. 106 00:04:43.540 --> 00:04:44.319 Funky Spoon here. 107 00:04:44.339 --> 00:04:45.019 Okay. 108 00:04:45.139 --> 00:04:46.860 That's his Twitter handle. That's his Dr. 109 00:04:46.899 --> 00:04:47.199 Funky Spoon. 110 00:04:47.220 --> 00:04:48.439 This is David Grinspoon. 111 00:04:48.620 --> 00:04:48.779 Dr. 112 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.439 David Grinspoon. Speeding as Dr. Funky Spoon. Yes. 113 00:04:51.459 --> 00:04:54.040 Okay. And so, you know, one of the people that 114 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.939 helped make the party good because they gave us some 115 00:04:56.980 --> 00:04:58.829 free alcohol. And that was the. 116 00:04:59.529 --> 00:05:02.050 Is that how that goes? Is that how we roll? 117 00:05:02.470 --> 00:05:04.910 So here's the deal. Here's what I thought would be 118 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:08.500 a great way to end. So we have Nankasi Brewing Company, 119 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.220 Ground Control, which is an imperial stout that they actually 120 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.639 donated to us. And the great thing about this beer, 121 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:19.060 maybe it's great, maybe it's not, I'm not sure. They 122 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.670 took strains of yeast to outer space. They grew those 123 00:05:22.730 --> 00:05:26.149 strains of yeast in outer space, brought them back to earth, 124 00:05:26.490 --> 00:05:28.410 and then brewed beer. Wait, wait, wait. 125 00:05:28.470 --> 00:05:29.670 So, Mike, was that on your mission? 126 00:05:29.730 --> 00:05:30.790 Did you brew beer? 127 00:05:30.970 --> 00:05:33.199 Is that why the Hubble telescope got messed up on 128 00:05:33.220 --> 00:05:33.680 your mission? 129 00:05:33.699 --> 00:05:36.639 Neil, you'd be really pissed at us if we were 130 00:05:36.660 --> 00:05:37.360 fooling around making beer. 131 00:05:37.379 --> 00:05:41.470 That is so right. No, we did not do that. Okay, 132 00:05:41.490 --> 00:05:45.269 let the record show. That your mission did not brew beer. 133 00:05:45.310 --> 00:05:47.350 We were busy helping out the astronomy world. 134 00:05:47.370 --> 00:05:49.300 Fixing the Hubble. So one of the cool things. Where 135 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.480 did this come from, man? 136 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.480 What flight was it on? Where's their proof? 137 00:05:53.500 --> 00:05:57.040 You want some documentation. Because you. 138 00:05:57.060 --> 00:06:00.209 I like the way Chuck says it. You want documentation? 139 00:06:00.269 --> 00:06:03.209 No. So here's the deal. The reason why I have 140 00:06:03.250 --> 00:06:07.029 you here is because allegedly there are only two things 141 00:06:07.069 --> 00:06:09.730 in this room that have been to outer space. This 142 00:06:09.769 --> 00:06:11.889 beer and you. All right. 143 00:06:12.310 --> 00:06:13.629 And we can't drink you. 144 00:06:14.629 --> 00:06:18.069 So that's why this is here. It's good beer, too. 145 00:06:18.129 --> 00:06:20.600 Okay. It's very dense. It's got like a Guinness kind 146 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:23.040 of density and viscosity to it. 147 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:25.879 It tastes good and it works. 148 00:06:27.100 --> 00:06:31.399 And it's got a sustained bubbly head on top. as 149 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:33.759 a Guinness would. This is a little sweeter than Guinness. 150 00:06:34.220 --> 00:06:36.790 It has the bitter backdrop, but on the front end, 151 00:06:36.819 --> 00:06:39.829 there's a sweetness that cuts the bitterness in the way 152 00:06:39.889 --> 00:06:42.769 you might drop a touch of sugar into coffee. 153 00:06:43.029 --> 00:06:44.509 I don't know why, but I want to have sex 154 00:06:44.529 --> 00:06:47.769 with this beer now. I'm not sure what the hell 155 00:06:47.810 --> 00:06:52.339 Neil is talking about, but I want to date this beer. 156 00:06:52.540 --> 00:06:54.959 These are my tasting notes. That's all. 157 00:06:55.939 --> 00:06:59.720 Actually, everything you said was actually spot on. And in 158 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:04.610 addition to the fact that, of course, you being an astrophysicist, 159 00:07:04.750 --> 00:07:11.620 you being an astronaut, Dr. David Grinspoon is an astrobiologist. 160 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.079 And so all you call him doctor and not as doctor. 161 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.370 You know, because, you know,

he's Dr. Funky Spoon. 162 00:07:20.209 --> 00:07:21.189 It's in his moniker. 163 00:07:21.209 --> 00:07:21.689 That's right. 164 00:07:21.709 --> 00:07:22.529 He's got a point. 165 00:07:22.589 --> 00:07:23.610 He's got a point. 166 00:07:23.670 --> 00:07:25.829 If I go Dr. Degrass, then you'd be calling me Dr. 167 00:07:25.850 --> 00:07:26.089 Degrass. 168 00:07:26.129 --> 00:07:26.209 Dr. 169 00:07:26.250 --> 00:07:26.750 Degrass. 170 00:07:26.769 --> 00:07:27.290 But it's not. 171 00:07:27.310 --> 00:07:28.389 It's just Neil Degrass. 172 00:07:28.449 --> 00:07:31.569 So I thought it would be very cool if, you know, 173 00:07:31.620 --> 00:07:33.920 the fact that all three of you tie into this, 174 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.079 that we were all here to close out our StarTalk 175 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:38.360 All-Stars party. 176 00:07:38.379 --> 00:07:38.660 Mm-hmm. 177 00:07:39.129 --> 00:07:43.170 And David's going to sing a little song that kind 178 00:07:43.189 --> 00:07:47.449 of ties us all in, which is the Astrobiologist Blues. 179 00:07:47.769 --> 00:07:48.949 Astrobiology Blues. 180 00:07:49.050 --> 00:07:50.629 Yeah. Yeah. 181 00:07:50.649 --> 00:07:52.730 Blues is my favorite musical genre. Really? 182 00:07:52.870 --> 00:07:53.050 Yes. 183 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:53.879 Yes. 184 00:07:54.060 --> 00:07:55.939 Hopefully it still will be after the song. 185 00:07:56.379 --> 00:07:56.660 I know. 186 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.000 I was going to say, like, I hate to disappoint. 187 00:08:01.779 --> 00:08:01.860 You. 188 00:08:01.899 --> 00:08:02.550 The beer might help. 189 00:08:03.189 --> 00:08:05.290 By the way, just to get some of his resume 190 00:08:05.350 --> 00:08:08.029 on the table, he cut his teeth thinking about and 191 00:08:08.050 --> 00:08:10.209 writing about Venus. He's got a book. You can buy 192 00:08:10.230 --> 00:08:11.709 a book about Venus that he wrote. 193 00:08:11.850 --> 00:08:12.110 Yes. 194 00:08:12.149 --> 00:08:14.000 And Venus is like 900 degrees Fahrenheit. 195 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:14.579 Yes, it is. 196 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:15.560 Ain't no life on Venus. 197 00:08:15.579 --> 00:08:15.649 Yes. 198 00:08:16.269 --> 00:08:18.790 So I don't know how he got from Venus to astrobiology. 199 00:08:18.810 --> 00:08:22.089 How did that happen? Well, it's a long story. Okay, stop. 200 00:08:22.110 --> 00:08:25.360 Never mind then. 201 00:08:25.420 --> 00:08:28.220 You know, Venus started out as just a fine planet 202 00:08:28.259 --> 00:08:30.079 like the rest of them, and something went wrong. 203 00:08:30.100 --> 00:08:30.939 Something went bad on Venus. 204 00:08:30.980 --> 00:08:33.820 Astrobiologists really want to figure that one out. Yeah, yeah, okay. 205 00:08:33.980 --> 00:08:35.700 Don't let this happen to your planet. Okay. 206 00:08:36.220 --> 00:08:37.639 Wow. Wow. 207 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.179 Venus has a runaway greenhouse effect. 208 00:08:39.220 --> 00:08:39.539 Yes. 209 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:41.360 Can I tell you something quick about Venus? 210 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:41.740 Go ahead. 211 00:08:41.860 --> 00:08:44.220 I once calculated how long it would take to cook 212 00:08:45.090 --> 00:08:47.470 a 16 inch pepperoni pizza, just sticking it out on 213 00:08:47.490 --> 00:08:51.500 the windowsill on Venus. And I got nine seconds. Right, 214 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.799 because of how high the temperature is and how dense 215 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:54.500 the atmosphere is. 216 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:55.440 That almost seems long. 217 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:57.549 Well, so here's what I'm saying. So here's what I'm saying. 218 00:08:58.179 --> 00:09:01.600 That's what I'm saying. So at 100 times the atmospheric pressure, 219 00:09:01.860 --> 00:09:06.399 nearly 100 times, the molecules would be imparting heat to 220 00:09:06.419 --> 00:09:08.629 the pizza faster than they would on Earth just because 221 00:09:08.669 --> 00:09:09.190 of the air pressure. 222 00:09:09.289 --> 00:09:10.009 Forget the temperature. 223 00:09:10.029 --> 00:09:12.850 Just because of the air pressure. Add the higher temperature, 224 00:09:12.850 --> 00:09:15.950 900 degrees, it's like hotter than a pizza oven. This 225 00:09:15.990 --> 00:09:17.990 would cook the pizza just putting it on the windowsill. 226 00:09:18.149 --> 00:09:20.669 Nine seconds? I'm all proud of this. So I tweeted 227 00:09:20.769 --> 00:09:26.299 nine seconds. Okay. Then Nathan Myhrvold. called me out. This 228 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:32.570 is a physicist turned chef. He took all the laboratory 229 00:09:32.610 --> 00:09:35.389 equipment that is in a chemist and physicist's lab and 230 00:09:35.450 --> 00:09:37.389 brought it into his kitchen. And so now when he 231 00:09:37.470 --> 00:09:40.009 cools food, he brings it down to like liquid nitrogen temperature. 232 00:09:40.230 --> 00:09:43.370 When he cuts food, he'll cut one, he'll use a microtome, 233 00:09:43.769 --> 00:09:48.620 which cuts one cell layered thick food that it evaporates 234 00:09:48.740 --> 00:09:49.740 on your tongue when it tastes. 235 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.259 I'm not going to lie. He sounds like a dick. 236 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.759 So he's got a whole. 237 00:09:54.870 --> 00:09:55.990 You're not running to that restaurant? 238 00:09:56.009 --> 00:09:58.169 Yeah, I'm just sorry. I'm not going to that restaurant. 239 00:09:58.210 --> 00:09:59.610 I'm not trying to eat at his place. 240 00:09:59.629 --> 00:10:05.049 You're endorsing the beer, not the microtome. 241 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.379 Here's what I'm saying. So I thought I was badass 242 00:10:07.500 --> 00:10:10.840 coming up with the nine seconds. He said, you left 243 00:10:10.980 --> 00:10:17.580 out a factor in your calculation, and that is the radiative... 244 00:10:17.659 --> 00:10:23.419 the radiative effect of the atmosphere itself. Because the atmosphere 245 00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:27.600 is at a temperature, so it's not simply

the movement 246 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:32.080 of the molecules of the air, it is radiating infrared 247 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:36.740 photons at the pizza. In addition to the molecules hitting. 248 00:10:36.940 --> 00:10:39.659 This is why when someone walks between you and a fire, 249 00:10:40.460 --> 00:10:41.980 You instantly feel cooler. 250 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:42.899 You're right, you're cooler. 251 00:10:42.990 --> 00:10:44.850 It's not that the air changed temperature in a fraction 252 00:10:44.870 --> 00:10:50.049 of a second, but photons, infrared photons, are getting blocked 253 00:10:50.110 --> 00:10:52.250 by the person who walked between you and the fire. Okay, 254 00:10:52.450 --> 00:10:54.889 so if you add that in, it takes two seconds 255 00:10:54.970 --> 00:10:55.570 to cook the pizza. 256 00:10:55.629 --> 00:10:57.690 All right, so now here's what I'm going to say. 257 00:10:57.809 --> 00:10:59.049 I was way off. 258 00:10:59.149 --> 00:11:00.169 I'm just going to say this. 259 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.120 I was way off. I'm going to say this. 260 00:11:02.139 --> 00:11:03.399 Nine seconds is a piece of charcoal. 261 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:06.960 All I'm going to say is your entire story just 262 00:11:07.019 --> 00:11:08.700 confirmed that He's a dick. 263 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:10.179 What? 264 00:11:11.659 --> 00:11:12.659 No, no, what he did was. 265 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.559 No, I'm sorry. No, I think that's actually fascinating. 266 00:11:16.019 --> 00:11:19.320 What he did was, I mean, what's fun, I love 267 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:21.019 being corrected by more science. 268 00:11:21.899 --> 00:11:22.720 Oh, yo, that's nice. 269 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.960 That is just, because I'll put in everything I know. Right. 270 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.240 And obviously, I want what I did to be correct, 271 00:11:29.500 --> 00:11:32.139 even if it's incomplete. So my calculation is correct, but 272 00:11:32.179 --> 00:11:34.600 it's missing this other part that he put in, and 273 00:11:34.620 --> 00:11:35.340 so I was wrong. 274 00:11:35.909 --> 00:11:38.889 Well, see, that's what makes you a scientist and not 275 00:11:39.190 --> 00:11:39.830 a Republican. 276 00:11:40.429 --> 00:11:40.669 Sorry. 277 00:11:41.409 --> 00:11:43.690 And not a chef. I'm sorry. And not a dick. 278 00:11:43.809 --> 00:11:44.000 Right. 279 00:11:44.049 --> 00:11:44.840 And not a dick. 280 00:11:44.860 --> 00:11:47.480 And not a dick. 281 00:11:47.500 --> 00:11:47.600 Okay. 282 00:11:47.620 --> 00:11:51.799 All right, so listen. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. The 283 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:52.960 first Republican president. 284 00:11:52.980 --> 00:11:53.340 Just FYI. 285 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:55.179 Oh, they switched out. 286 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.179 Exactly. I was going to say that. 287 00:11:57.220 --> 00:11:59.940 There's a history there, but I'm not going to go there. 288 00:11:59.960 --> 00:12:03.700 I'm not even going to go there. What does it matter, sir, Mr. 289 00:12:03.820 --> 00:12:07.340 Astronaut Dude, the only man who's like, been weightless orbiting 290 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:07.879 the Earth. 291 00:12:08.059 --> 00:12:09.460 One of 547 people. We were talking about this earlier. 292 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.240 Only 547 people have actually been to outer space. We're 293 00:12:11.259 --> 00:12:22.820 not talking about the pilots who get in the atmosphere. 294 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:25.340 They're still in the atmosphere. You're talking about orbiting Earth. 295 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:25.639 Orbiting Earth. 296 00:12:25.659 --> 00:12:26.820 Is it orbiting or is it just going to space? 297 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.080 Well, no, going to space. 298 00:12:28.220 --> 00:12:28.960 X-15 guys. 299 00:12:29.379 --> 00:12:31.289 Well, the X-15 guys, no, they're part of it. 300 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.419 And Scott Carpenter. Scott Carpenter. Suborbital. 301 00:12:35.730 --> 00:12:36.879 And even Alan Shepard. 302 00:12:37.590 --> 00:12:39.490 So those guys are part of it because they're out 303 00:12:39.529 --> 00:12:42.830 of the atmosphere. Out of the atmosphere, you've been in space. 304 00:12:42.850 --> 00:12:44.730 Yeah, but if Earth had no atmosphere... Wait, wait, wait. 305 00:12:44.889 --> 00:12:47.110 If you want to say being in space is simply being... 306 00:12:47.049 --> 00:12:49.110 We'll get back to you in a minute. Okay, if 307 00:12:49.149 --> 00:12:51.370 you want... You want to say that being in space 308 00:12:51.429 --> 00:12:52.769 means you left Earth's atmosphere. 309 00:12:52.789 --> 00:12:53.210 Okay. 310 00:12:53.850 --> 00:12:56.429 Defined as 100 kilometers up, 62 miles. 311 00:12:56.450 --> 00:12:56.830 Okay. 312 00:12:57.309 --> 00:12:59.909 In principle, I don't have a problem with that, except 313 00:13:00.590 --> 00:13:04.820 if the atmosphere were thinner, then being in space would 314 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:06.779 be a little closer to Earth. If we had half 315 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.000 the atmospheric pressure we do, then being in space would 316 00:13:09.019 --> 00:13:11.120 be at 50 kilometers, or just 30 miles up. If 317 00:13:11.179 --> 00:13:14.700 it had a tenth, then it would be six miles up. 318 00:13:15.139 --> 00:13:19.330 If we had a hundredth, it would be... Six tenths 319 00:13:19.389 --> 00:13:21.090 of one mile up. Did I do the math on that? 320 00:13:21.129 --> 00:13:21.269 Yeah. 321 00:13:21.289 --> 00:13:21.990 Close enough. 322 00:13:22.169 --> 00:13:25.230 Close enough. If we had no atmosphere... We'd be here 323 00:13:25.250 --> 00:13:28.529 right now. We'd all be astronauts. 324 00:13:28.750 --> 00:13:30.769 And if I had a million dollars and I was 325 00:13:30.809 --> 00:13:36.730 a better lover, I wouldn't be sitting here right now. Okay. 326 00:13:37.210 --> 00:13:38.429 Sounds like another show. 327 00:13:38.850 --> 00:13:40.750 Yeah, we reserve that. 328 00:13:40.769 --> 00:13:44.200 We need to

go there. 329 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:48.539 Not right now. Not right now. So that's why I 330 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:55.350 want to think of space as... those who have achieved orbit. Okay, 331 00:13:55.500 --> 00:13:59.649 do me a favor. Wait, wait, wait. Which is a 332 00:13:59.769 --> 00:14:03.230 definition independent of the atmospheric pressure here on this planet. 333 00:14:03.409 --> 00:14:07.090 Okay, that's actually a very good, that's a qualifying statement, 334 00:14:07.169 --> 00:14:07.720 and I like it. 335 00:14:08.509 --> 00:14:10.629 Do we have a minimum altitude to retain orbit? 336 00:14:11.850 --> 00:14:15.470 Well, you don't want, otherwise the atmosphere messes with it. 337 00:14:15.769 --> 00:14:17.929 So in principle, I don't know why you can't do 338 00:14:18.009 --> 00:14:19.059 orbit 100 miles up. 339 00:14:19.500 --> 00:14:19.750 What's that? 340 00:14:21.580 --> 00:14:22.009 Ooh! 341 00:14:22.580 --> 00:14:26.340 Ah, there's Carter Emmert. Carter Emmert letting us know the 342 00:14:26.379 --> 00:14:29.580 real deal. We're all in space. All the time. 343 00:14:29.659 --> 00:14:32.440 It might be the lowest altitude orbit we've had with 344 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.179 the shuttle. It could be sustained. 345 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:35.159 It's pretty low. 346 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.159 So you are one of 533 people who have actually 347 00:14:37.220 --> 00:14:43.320 been in space, according to Neil deGrasse Tyson. One in 500. 348 00:14:43.299 --> 00:14:44.259 By my definition of space. 349 00:14:44.330 --> 00:14:46.210 It's an interesting definition. You're going to cut out a 350 00:14:46.230 --> 00:14:46.690 few people. 351 00:14:46.809 --> 00:14:48.389 I understand that, but it's tough. It's tough. 352 00:14:48.409 --> 00:14:49.009 Okay. 353 00:14:49.470 --> 00:14:52.769 So here's my point. So let me ask you, if 354 00:14:52.809 --> 00:14:56.789 you breed yeast in space, it's just breeding at zero G. 355 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:00.860 Is there anything that you think would be different in space? 356 00:15:00.899 --> 00:15:02.120 Is there higher radiation? 357 00:15:02.139 --> 00:15:05.580 Yeah, but probably if they, it'd be interesting to see 358 00:15:05.620 --> 00:15:09.840 how they did this. If it was exposed, it probably 359 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:11.940 was not outside. I don't know. I'm guessing it might 360 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:13.899 have been on a space station flight. I don't know 361 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:17.240 where they got this. So I don't know enough about yeast. 362 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:20.429 Does yeast grow like a plant? Because I know we've 363 00:15:20.450 --> 00:15:22.049 grown plants. What the heck is yeast? 364 00:15:22.389 --> 00:15:24.169 Okay, so what is, you have no idea what you're 365 00:15:24.190 --> 00:15:24.669 talking about. 366 00:15:24.710 --> 00:15:26.330 No idea what I'm talking about. 367 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:27.809 When you grow yeast, how do you grow yeast? It's 368 00:15:27.830 --> 00:15:28.169 like a. 369 00:15:28.269 --> 00:15:29.629 Well, let me ask you a different question. 370 00:15:29.649 --> 00:15:31.080 It's not a growing plant, is it? 371 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.820 Well, you're the astrobiologist. Is it? It's a plant. 372 00:15:34.980 --> 00:15:37.019 Okay, so for plants, for example... We have 40% of 373 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.179 our DNA identical with that of yeast, don't we? 374 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:40.220 But it grows. 375 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.750 Is that for real? Yeah, yeah. 376 00:15:41.779 --> 00:15:43.730 So if it grows, what would be interesting is that... 377 00:15:43.629 --> 00:15:46.210 That's why yeast grows on our bodies. Does it have 378 00:15:46.250 --> 00:15:47.289 a heavy stalk or anything? 379 00:15:47.889 --> 00:15:49.850 No, it's physically very simple. 380 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:52.429 Okay, so, but it grows. You'll see, what do you see? 381 00:15:52.470 --> 00:15:54.090 You see like a plant? Help me out here. 382 00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:56.029 It's just cells. It's just a mass of cells. 383 00:15:56.049 --> 00:15:57.649 So it's not really like a sunflower. 384 00:15:57.669 --> 00:15:58.990 Very little structure, no. Okay, right. 385 00:15:59.029 --> 00:15:59.990 So that's just simple. 386 00:16:00.230 --> 00:16:03.750 It's simple. So I don't think it would grow much differently. 387 00:16:03.789 --> 00:16:04.730 Yeast consumes sugar. 388 00:16:04.870 --> 00:16:08.009 It makes bread rise and women very uncomfortable. 389 00:16:08.169 --> 00:16:13.320 Yes. Somebody had to go there. You know what? 390 00:16:13.779 --> 00:16:16.659 You can boo me all you want, but I didn't 391 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.460 say anything and you got exactly what I was talking about. 392 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:22.259 So I would think it grows, I think it sounds 393 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:24.419 like a little experiment that would grow the same way. 394 00:16:24.850 --> 00:16:27.870 If it was a plant, like growing a plant, like 395 00:16:27.889 --> 00:16:30.409 a sunflower. Sunflowers have been grown in space. So a 396 00:16:30.429 --> 00:16:33.169 sunflower on the earth has a big stalk. It's really, 397 00:16:33.350 --> 00:16:36.230 really large. It doesn't need all that strength in space. 398 00:16:36.570 --> 00:16:38.529 It doesn't need that to hold itself up. So it 399 00:16:38.549 --> 00:16:40.750 grows with a very thin stalk and it kind of 400 00:16:40.789 --> 00:16:44.009 winds itself around. It's very interesting. but I'm thinking the 401 00:16:44.029 --> 00:16:45.769 yeast is probably not much different. 402 00:16:45.889 --> 00:16:47.700 So it might be kind of a gimmick, but it's 403 00:16:47.740 --> 00:16:48.159 good beer. 404 00:16:48.379 --> 00:16:51.899 It's good beer. 405 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:54.179 It would get more radiation. A little more radiation. So 406 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:57.929 these are yeast that are... The yeast in here have 407 00:16:57.950 -->

00:17:01.360 their lives traceable to yeast... That were created in space. 408 00:17:01.539 --> 00:17:01.799 Yes. 409 00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:03.600 From yeast that was originally from Earth. 410 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:05.519 Right. I think it's a novelty. 411 00:17:05.539 --> 00:17:07.200 It's a novelty. But it's not going to change it. 412 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:08.779 Give it to them as a novelty, for sure. It's 413 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:09.259 pretty cool. 414 00:17:09.460 --> 00:17:09.680 Yeah. 415 00:17:09.980 --> 00:17:11.829 I think they actually admit that it was a novelty 416 00:17:11.869 --> 00:17:14.970 because they say that the reason why they did the 417 00:17:16.210 --> 00:17:20.069 entire novelty, the experiment, whatever you want to call it, 418 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:24.700 is because they want to show people that they're about exploration. Okay. 419 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.339 It's all about exploration. 420 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:27.000 That's a good thing. 421 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.339 So that was the entire marketing goal. 422 00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:32.240 Who are these guys? Are these friends of yours or something? 423 00:17:32.299 --> 00:17:33.430 No, I don't know them at all. 424 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:33.900 Really? 425 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:35.180 They just gave us free beer. 426 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:36.119 Is that all it is? 427 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.009 We're easy. We're in the street. We're really easy. We're 428 00:17:39.089 --> 00:17:39.950 free beer, man. 429 00:17:40.009 --> 00:17:40.250 Right. 430 00:17:40.369 --> 00:17:41.630 Free beer. 431 00:17:41.650 --> 00:17:44.450 We'll do a whole freaking show about your product. I 432 00:17:44.470 --> 00:17:47.829 just murdered my mother. He said, hey, drink this and 433 00:17:47.849 --> 00:17:49.009 you'll be in space, man. 434 00:17:53.009 --> 00:17:54.339 So this is the world premiere of. 435 00:17:56.289 --> 00:17:59.970 Of the Astrobiologist Blues, written by Chuck Nicewit. 436 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.920 No one was supposed to know that part. Well, but I. 437 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.240 Co-wrote it to some degree. 438 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:05.740 Okay, good. 439 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:06.769 So you messed around with it? 440 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:07.099 That's great. 441 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.480 I messed around with it, but really the inspiration is. 442 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:10.740 Messed around by? 443 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:13.559 Messed around by Dr. Funky Spoon. 444 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:14.619 What's the name of this again? 445 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.140 It's the Astrobiologist Blues. 446 00:18:16.180 --> 00:18:17.380 All right, let's do it. 447 00:18:17.569 --> 00:18:18.529 It's going to be interesting. 448 00:18:18.569 --> 00:18:19.920 We're going to do an astrobiology, I bet. 449 00:18:19.930 --> 00:18:21.230 It goes something like this. 450 00:18:34.779 --> 00:18:38.240 Everywhere that I go, it's dark. 451 00:18:38.339 --> 00:18:41.619 What do you do? Well, I look for life in 452 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:47.359 the cosmos. Maybe that life's looking for you. Are we alone? 453 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.180 Maybe, but not for long. 454 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:02.140 Well, I got those astrobiologist blues. 455 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:03.559 That's why. 456 00:19:12.019 --> 00:19:17.369 When the aliens come Will they come in peace. 457 00:19:18.450 --> 00:19:21.670 Or will they make us their pets And put. 458 00:19:21.470 --> 00:19:25.460 Us all on a leash Oh, are we alone Maybe, 459 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:26.519 but not for long. 460 00:19:38.049 --> 00:19:40.019 And that's why I sing this song. 461 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:53.259 Gotta take care of this planet. Yes, sir. Cause it's 462 00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:54.920 all we got. Yes, sir. 463 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:55.480 Talk to me. 464 00:19:56.140 --> 00:19:57.549 No, we can't move to Venus. 465 00:19:57.849 --> 00:20:03.230 Because you know it's too damn hot. Why are we alone? 466 00:20:03.250 --> 00:20:04.849 Good piece of the old piece. 467 00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:08.130 I can't tell you without a doubt. 468 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.950 How are you going to tell me? 469 00:20:13.990 --> 00:20:19.829 Well, I don't know, but I'll tell you how we're 470 00:20:19.869 --> 00:20:21.190 going to find out. 471 00:20:23.269 --> 00:20:24.599 Tell you how we're going to find out. 472 00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:28.849 Well, we've got to explore all the potentially habitable planets 473 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.410 in the solar system, anywhere where there. 474 00:20:30.349 --> 00:20:33.029 Is or was liquid water, energy, organic molecules. 475 00:20:33.309 --> 00:20:35.890 This includes the clouds of Venus, the subsurface of Mars, 476 00:20:35.910 --> 00:20:38.990 the oceans of Jupiter's moon Europa, Saturn's moon Titan and Enceladus, 477 00:20:39.329 --> 00:20:41.519 and even a possible interior ocean of Pluto. 478 00:20:42.230 --> 00:20:44.579 Meanwhile, we need to search. 479 00:20:45.460 --> 00:20:45.539 A. 480 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.640 Hundred billion exoplanets in the Milky Way galaxy for science 481 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:50.640 of life. In order to do this, we need to 482 00:20:50.660 --> 00:20:54.180 develop the next generation of space telescopes and spectrometers so 483 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:57.109 we can examine those alien atmospheres and search for the 484 00:20:57.130 --> 00:21:00.130 chemistry produced by life forms interacting with their environments. 485 00:21:00.450 --> 00:21:01.990 These new instruments will not. 486 00:21:01.849 --> 00:21:05.210 Be inexpensive, but they may allow us to finally answer 487 00:21:05.509 --> 00:21:09.299 the age-old haunting question, are we alone? So in short, kids, 488 00:21:09.339 --> 00:21:11.019 if you want to know if there are any aliens, 489 00:21:11.059 --> 00:21:13.420 write to your congressperson and tell them to increase funding 490 00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:14.500 for

astrobiology. 491 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.000 Thank you. Dang. 492 00:21:18.059 --> 00:21:25.089 That was great, man. Oh, yeah, man. That was awesome. 493 00:21:25.190 --> 00:21:30.609 You wrote all that. No, let me tell you something. 494 00:21:30.650 --> 00:21:31.470 Who wrote that thing? 495 00:21:31.630 --> 00:21:34.369 I am pretty sure that everyone can tell exactly which 496 00:21:34.430 --> 00:21:39.240 part I wrote. And which part I didn't. 497 00:21:39.259 --> 00:21:40.579 That was awesome. 498 00:21:40.619 --> 00:21:42.559 You've been rehearsing a lot or what? 499 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:43.079 Oh, yeah. 500 00:21:43.180 --> 00:21:43.660 Come on. 501 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:46.799 That's a funky spoon! 502 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:48.400 That's a funky spoon! 503 00:21:48.500 --> 00:21:49.140 And Chuck Nice. 504 00:21:49.380 --> 00:21:50.539 Yo, good shit, man. 505 00:21:50.579 --> 00:21:51.440 That's awesome. 506 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.259 My man, that was fantastic. 507 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:55.380 This is a lot of fun. 508 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:58.579 You know what this one does? All Stars is all about. 509 00:21:58.599 --> 00:21:59.740 A lot of fun. 510 00:21:59.829 --> 00:22:01.420 And Mike, thanks for coming over. You were at the 511 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:02.089 Intrepid earlier. 512 00:22:02.109 --> 00:22:02.930 I was. I had an event. 513 00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:04.450 We have to share you with your job. 514 00:22:04.849 --> 00:22:05.990 Every once in a while, you got to do something else. 515 00:22:06.009 --> 00:22:07.529 But I'm really glad I got to be here. 516 00:22:08.029 --> 00:22:11.549 Intrepid, the World War II aircraft carrier, parked. On the 517 00:22:11.589 --> 00:22:13.430 side of Manhattan that has the Enterprise. 518 00:22:13.450 --> 00:22:16.269 The Enterprise shuttle is there. A lot of great other 519 00:22:16.329 --> 00:22:19.680 things going on. I was over there early, but really 520 00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:21.480 happy I got a chance to be here and see 521 00:22:21.500 --> 00:22:21.859 you guys. 522 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:22.680 Thanks for coming over. 523 00:22:22.980 --> 00:22:23.680 Thanks for having me. 524 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.460 And just so people remember, you were the first person 525 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.180 to tweet from space. 526 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:28.990 I was. Yeah. I was. 527 00:22:30.109 --> 00:22:33.390 And so in 1969, Neil Armstrong said one small step 528 00:22:33.410 --> 00:22:35.730 for man. And your first tweet from space was what? 529 00:22:35.930 --> 00:22:36.450 Not as good. 530 00:22:36.470 --> 00:22:42.549 They actually made fun of me on Saturday Night Live. 531 00:22:42.630 --> 00:22:43.069 Oh, really? 532 00:22:43.109 --> 00:22:47.059 Because I said launch was awesome. That's what you said? 533 00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:49.000 I said launch, and I said some other things too, 534 00:22:49.019 --> 00:22:51.140 but on Saturday Night Live, that weekend while I was 535 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:51.680 in space. 536 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:52.559 Wait, wait, wait. 537 00:22:52.619 --> 00:22:55.859 You're on a $ 300 million spaceship in orbit that taxpayers 538 00:22:55.900 --> 00:22:57.400 put you up there, and you pull out a... That's 539 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:58.160 what it cost? 540 00:22:59.220 --> 00:22:59.420 Jesus. 541 00:22:59.819 --> 00:23:01.640 The first ever historic tweet. 542 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:06.730 I just needed a ride. I just needed a ride. 543 00:23:06.769 --> 00:23:09.730 So you said the launch was awesome. I said launch 544 00:23:09.769 --> 00:23:14.160 was awesome. I'm feeling great. the adventure of a lifetime 545 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.119 has begun. I wanted the people of Earth to know 546 00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:16.880 I was feeling great. 547 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.460 By the way, that is not a bad tweet. That's 548 00:23:19.500 --> 00:23:19.690 not bad. 549 00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:20.750 It wasn't bad, but they made fun of it. 550 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:22.460 It was good. They made fun of it. They go, 551 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.099 in 40 years, it was his 40th anniversary, you hosted 552 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:28.359 the celebration we had in Washington. 553 00:23:28.380 --> 00:23:28.819 Yes, yes. 554 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:29.440 That was awesome. 555 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.240 And all those guys were alive back then. It's the 556 00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:33.759 Good War Hazy Center. No, actually, I'm thinking of the 557 00:23:33.779 --> 00:23:34.789 one at the main museum. 558 00:23:34.809 --> 00:23:35.490 Wait a minute. 559 00:23:35.509 --> 00:23:37.549 It was the 40th anniversary of the Apollo. 560 00:23:37.690 --> 00:23:40.170 I was like MC of that event. It was awesome. 561 00:23:40.549 --> 00:23:42.869 We had just come back. They said for 40 years 562 00:23:42.890 --> 00:23:45.259 we've gone from, we got to stop? Are we recording anymore? 563 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:47.039 No, we're still recording. 564 00:23:47.059 --> 00:23:49.339 We've gone from one small step from man to one 565 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:50.589 giant leap from mankind. And this was Leap Day. 566 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:54.960 By the way so it's like a giant leap right 567 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.579 now where we're changing and we've gone in 40 years 568 00:23:57.619 --> 00:23:59.940 ago from that to launch was awesome if this guy 569 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:01.940 ever meets aliens this is how we'll find out about 570 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:06.599 it geez dudes look aliens they made fun. 571 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.940 Of me so anyway but here's my kids started paying 572 00:24:09.980 --> 00:24:11.480 attention to the flight so it was good no it 573 00:24:11.509 --> 00:24:12.190 wasn't bad. 574 00:24:12.029 --> 00:24:14.140 So now here's what I want to know because you 575 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:18.170 are in this club of people who are part of 576 00:24:18.190 --> 00:24:18.509 this we're. 577

00:24:18.529 --> 00:24:22.410 Very fortunate people we're very fortunate people a very esoteric 578 00:24:22.609 --> 00:24:29.740 group That quote, one small step for man, one giant 579 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:35.119 leap for mankind, was that indeed pre-written? 580 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:38.200 I asked him that. I asked him that. I asked 581 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.980 the man that. I just want to know. I asked him. 582 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.880 What's that? Neil Armstrong. 583 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:43.180 The man. 584 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:45.539 The first man on the moon. And he came and 585 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.279 spoke to our astronaut class our first week at NASA. 586 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:48.640 Yes. 587 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.079 And it just so happened around the little buffet thing 588 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:54.980 we had there, he's standing next to me, my big hero. 589 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:55.740 By accident. 590 00:24:55.779 --> 00:24:56.339 Yeah, right. 591 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:56.900 By accident. 592 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:57.500 Yeah. 593 00:24:57.720 --> 00:24:59.279 But he's standing next to me. And I asked him 594 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.700 about that. When did you think? Because I thought, did 595 00:25:02.029 --> 00:25:03.839 you hire a publicist? When did you come up? He 596 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.519 said he didn't think about it until after the landing 597 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:09.069 because he wasn't sure if they were going to make it. 598 00:25:09.500 --> 00:25:13.069 And he didn't want to think about anything before the landing. 599 00:25:13.140 --> 00:25:15.569 And he worried about that. He thought about that. after 600 00:25:15.630 --> 00:25:18.049 they landed. Think about that. Those guys were not sure 601 00:25:18.069 --> 00:25:19.190 they were going to make it. In fact, the first 602 00:25:19.210 --> 00:25:21.759 three Apollos, right, Neil? The first three were all the 603 00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:23.720 same flight because they didn't know if the first guys 604 00:25:23.740 --> 00:25:25.700 were going to make it. So once they made it, 605 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:27.339 then Apollo 12, they came up with a different. 606 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:28.799 So he came up with that after they landed before 607 00:25:28.819 --> 00:25:29.740 he stepped out. On the moon. 608 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.319 On the moon, he came up with that. He wasn't 609 00:25:31.339 --> 00:25:34.329 going to think about anything except for the landing. 610 00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:34.960 That's badass. 611 00:25:34.980 --> 00:25:35.950 That is badass. 612 00:25:35.990 --> 00:25:38.589 That's badass. I'm impressed. I mean, they barely made it 613 00:25:38.650 --> 00:25:39.210 as it was, right? 614 00:25:39.289 --> 00:25:41.269 One of the most amazing guys ever. He really is. 615 00:25:41.309 --> 00:25:44.500 Just an amazing pilot. Amazing person. 616 00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:47.220 Anyway, so did you ask me that? Did I tell 617 00:25:47.299 --> 00:25:49.160 you that? Did you know him? 618 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.220 I mean, maybe we were like that. You did their 619 00:25:53.259 --> 00:25:54.509 big 40th celebration. 620 00:25:54.529 --> 00:25:57.150 Yeah, yeah. Not that long after. Not that long after. 621 00:25:57.490 --> 00:26:00.029 I first met him in 1973. 622 00:26:00.029 --> 00:26:00.430 Wow. 623 00:26:00.470 --> 00:26:01.369 Where were you? 624 00:26:01.390 --> 00:26:04.359 You were what? Now you're in high school, man. Now 625 00:26:04.410 --> 00:26:05.160 you want to know. 626 00:26:05.180 --> 00:26:09.910 You were like a little kid. He's the man. Neil Armstrong, 627 00:26:09.950 --> 00:26:10.869 Neil deGrasse Tyson. 628 00:26:11.289 --> 00:26:14.650 I met him. My name's Neil, too. I met him 629 00:26:14.789 --> 00:26:21.329 at the bar of the SS Canberra, the fourth largest 630 00:26:21.450 --> 00:26:26.410 ocean liner in the world, which was retooled to become 631 00:26:26.529 --> 00:26:31.410 a floating science laboratory to go from New York to 632 00:26:31.430 --> 00:26:34.279 the coast of Northwest Africa to observe on June 30th 633 00:26:35.470 --> 00:26:37.849 A seven-minute long total solar eclipse. 634 00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:38.609 Wow. 635 00:26:38.829 --> 00:26:46.579 I was on that ship at age 43. I was 14. 636 00:26:46.579 --> 00:26:48.859 I lied and told everyone I was 16. And I 637 00:26:48.900 --> 00:26:51.380 had my own telescope. By yourself? By myself. Well, there 638 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.359 was 1,800 other people. But not your parents. No, my 639 00:26:53.420 --> 00:26:53.799 parents were there. 640 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:54.319 I was alone. 641 00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:55.420 Wow. I was alone. 642 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:58.720 And I had my own telescope. And during the eclipse, 643 00:26:58.819 --> 00:27:02.049 it is a forest of telescope tripods. on the deck 644 00:27:02.329 --> 00:27:04.849 after they'd taken off all the shuffle boards and everything, 645 00:27:05.190 --> 00:27:07.930 and the lawn chairs and everything, or whatever, the deck chairs. 646 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.339 And so he was one of the sort of celebrities 647 00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:14.460 who got onto the ship. And I hadn't fully appreciated, 648 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.140 he had just frickin', like the Apollo thing had just 649 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.799 ended in 1972. And so, but he was there, no 650 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.299 one was hounding him or anything. And I got him 651 00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:28.369 to sign my little, you know, the brochure for the trip. 652 00:27:28.950 --> 00:27:29.769 And so that's what it was. 653 00:27:30.450 --> 00:27:31.190 Yeah, that's so cool. 654 00:27:31.210 --> 00:27:32.009 Amazing, amazing person. 655 00:27:32.029 --> 00:27:34.690 And so it turns out his son, who's my age, 656 00:27:34.910 --> 00:27:36.170 was on the ship at the time. 657 00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:36.569 Oh, cool. 658 00:27:36.609 -->

00:27:39.759 Now I'm friends with his son. So yeah, so I 659 00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.099 had a few, I mean, we met a few times. 660 00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:44.940 I mean, so... I'm exaggerating when I say we were 661 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:45.920 like that. We were really like that. 662 00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:48.359 No, but still, I mean, getting an encounter with him 663 00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:49.619 at that sort of age. 664 00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:49.839 Yeah. 665 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:51.940 And did that inspire you in some way? No, I 666 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:52.400 was already. 667 00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:54.130 I'm on a freaking Eclipse cruise. 668 00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:55.589 He's on a freaking cruise with a telescope. 669 00:27:55.609 --> 00:27:57.549 How am I going to be interested in the universe? 670 00:27:57.670 --> 00:27:59.529 I mean, even if I'm on a cruise at 14. Well, 671 00:27:59.549 --> 00:28:00.430 let me ask you then. 672 00:28:00.450 --> 00:28:05.069 When exactly did? I want to know, okay? Because the 673 00:28:05.109 --> 00:28:07.029 way I, you know, you and I did a thing 674 00:28:07.109 --> 00:28:10.029 on CBS this morning, and I said the reason why 675 00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:14.319 I like Neil deGrasse Tyson is because He talks about 676 00:28:14.339 --> 00:28:18.859 the universe the way I talk about sex. And I'm serious. 677 00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:20.299 I'm not even joking. 678 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.900 So what... You have to explain. 679 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:24.130 You have to explain it. 680 00:28:24.140 --> 00:28:26.589 Because I was once on Jon Stewart, and I was 681 00:28:26.609 --> 00:28:29.150 talking about Mars, and I was talking about at some 682 00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:32.490 time in its past, it was clearly sort of wet 683 00:28:32.529 --> 00:28:34.950 and fertile and might have had life. I'm using these terms. 684 00:28:35.180 --> 00:28:36.819 And then Jon Stewart said, why is it that when 685 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.380 you talk about the universe, I get horny? 686 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:38.680 Right. 687 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.119 Exactly. Is that what's happening? 688 00:28:42.140 --> 00:28:42.839 Well, I don't know. 689 00:28:42.859 --> 00:28:47.819 If I'm getting horny, then again, honestly, yeah, that's a 690 00:28:47.859 --> 00:28:55.220 good deal. So what exactly was the moment, if you 691 00:28:55.259 --> 00:28:58.140 can actually call it down to a moment? 692 00:28:58.180 --> 00:28:59.339 Oh, yeah. 693 00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:00.779 And I want to know this from each one of you. 694 00:29:01.380 --> 00:29:05.529 What exactly was the moment For you, personally, when you knew, 695 00:29:05.950 --> 00:29:07.410 my God, this is it. 696 00:29:07.609 --> 00:29:13.250 That's not exactly what I said at the time, but yes. Okay. 697 00:29:13.269 --> 00:29:15.609 I was just going to say, my God. We're not 698 00:29:15.650 --> 00:29:16.690 the worst. 699 00:29:16.769 --> 00:29:17.230 I got it. 700 00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:19.490 I was nine years old. What did you say? I 701 00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:22.029 was nine, and I didn't say anything because I was 702 00:29:22.109 --> 00:29:26.099 in the darkened silence of the Hayden Planetarium. 703 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:27.420 Wow. 704 00:29:27.460 --> 00:29:28.599 The show was unfolding. 705 00:29:28.859 --> 00:29:29.599 Wow. 706 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.460 The lights dimmed. The stars came out. and I thought 707 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.380 it was a hoax. I had seen all 12 stars 708 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.759 from the Bronx, where I grew up, and there was 709 00:29:39.779 --> 00:29:42.079 way too many stars to match up. It's a nice 710 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.519 hoax though, I'll go along with it. And at that moment, 711 00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.180 I was star struck. I have no other way to 712 00:29:50.220 --> 00:29:52.900 say it. And I said, is this a thing? One 713 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.980 could do this? And it would take two years? By 714 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:02.359 age 11! I had an answer to that question that 715 00:30:02.420 --> 00:30:06.250 adults always ask children. That annoying question. What do you 716 00:30:06.289 --> 00:30:07.579 want to be when you grow up? 717 00:30:07.589 --> 00:30:07.910 Oh, yeah. 718 00:30:08.150 --> 00:30:10.349 I said astrophysicist. That kind of shut him up like that. 719 00:30:10.529 --> 00:30:10.670 Right? 720 00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:12.930 Because it's usually, I want to be a doctor. Oh, 721 00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:15.029 Aunt Matilda's a doctor. You know, I say an astrophysicist. 722 00:30:15.289 --> 00:30:17.640 Nobody knows. That was it. That was it. That was 723 00:30:17.660 --> 00:30:22.500 anyone in the family. So, I think the universe chose me. 724 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:31.029 Because I was helpless in the presence of this... silent darkness. 725 00:30:32.210 --> 00:30:37.059 The universe grabbed me and I've known no other pursuit since. 726 00:30:37.690 --> 00:30:39.000 You know what, if I was 11 years old... You're 727 00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:40.920 back there now. All I'm going to say is this. 728 00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:41.400 This is amazing. 729 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.660 If I was 11 years old and the universe grabbed me, 730 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:50.829 I would have called child food. Show me another doll 731 00:30:50.849 --> 00:30:55.450 with a bad universe. That's no good. So now wait. 732 00:30:56.059 --> 00:31:00.299 So now I'm director of the place. It's amazing. It 733 00:31:00.339 --> 00:31:02.440 plays well in small towns. New York people don't care. 734 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:03.799 That's not true. 735 00:31:03.859 --> 00:31:04.299 I say. 736 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:04.880 I was a kid. 737 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:05.240 I was there. 738 00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:06.289 Everyone went to New York. 739 00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:07.450 Now you're wrong. 740 00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:07.750 You're wrong. 741 00:31:07.769 -->

00:31:09.390 I don't give a crap. I'm glad I got to 742 00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:10.009 hear the story. 743 00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:12.230 Wait a minute. That's a great story. That is awesome. 744 00:31:12.349 --> 00:31:13.589 All right. So now wait a minute. We've got two 745 00:31:13.609 --> 00:31:15.150 more stories. We've got two more stories. Then we're going 746 00:31:15.170 --> 00:31:17.779 to wrap it up. But seriously, because that was... That 747 00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:20.599 was fantastic. And I think it's really great for people 748 00:31:20.619 --> 00:31:24.519 to hear the fact that, and I believe this, everyone 749 00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:28.980 knows the way you knew. Everyone knows. It's just that 750 00:31:29.299 --> 00:31:32.559 something seminal must happen to push you. 751 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:33.220 In that direction. 752 00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:36.299 But everyone knows. And what normally happens is you tell 753 00:31:36.339 --> 00:31:42.299 somebody and they go, man, you have to. 754 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:43.839 So now just to put closure on this. 755 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:44.019 Okay. 756 00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.970 Even though my last sentence sounded like closure, I can 757 00:31:49.009 --> 00:31:52.730 close it even better. Okay. To this day, every day 758 00:31:52.750 --> 00:31:57.670 I walk into my office, I have a duty and 759 00:31:57.690 --> 00:32:00.730 an obligation. And it is my honor to have both 760 00:32:00.769 --> 00:32:06.039 of those operating simultaneously to serve the next generation who 761 00:32:06.059 --> 00:32:09.059 walked through those doors, the way the educators and scientists 762 00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:10.000 served me. 763 00:32:10.180 --> 00:32:10.519 Nice. 764 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:11.200 Oh man. 765 00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.779 Yo man, that's, Yeah, that's a nice button to put 766 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:14.059 on that. 767 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:14.799 That's what I'm saying. 768 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:15.569 Well, that's a mission. 769 00:32:15.589 --> 00:32:16.109 That's all I'm saying. 770 00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:19.130 So what you're saying is the inspiration drove you to 771 00:32:19.170 --> 00:32:21.490 a mission. I mean, seriously. That's all I'm saying. That's 772 00:32:21.509 --> 00:32:21.910 what happened. 773 00:32:21.970 --> 00:32:22.369 That's amazing. 774 00:32:22.390 --> 00:32:25.630 That's all I'm saying. All right, so now, okay. 775 00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:29.809 By the way, my story is not uncommon among my colleagues. FYI. 776 00:32:29.869 --> 00:32:33.230 We're going to find that out right now. That's why 777 00:32:33.289 --> 00:32:35.859 you have amateur astronomy groups that have kids that are 778 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.119 part of it. Are there amateur lawyer groups? I don't 779 00:32:39.140 --> 00:32:40.539 think so. Amateur neurosurgeons? 780 00:32:40.819 --> 00:32:40.890 No. 781 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:41.140 No. 782 00:32:42.460 --> 00:32:45.240 Amateur astronomy are like experts in the night sky and 783 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.160 it's all ages and we're all part of it. Am 784 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:48.759 I lying? I'm not dying. 785 00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:52.099 But this is my point. What you just said right there, 786 00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:56.980 the fact is we're sitting here with, there are four 787 00:32:57.019 --> 00:33:03.559 people here, three of us have extraordinary jobs. And we 788 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:05.420 know who they are. 789 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.779 Who are you leaving out, man? 790 00:33:07.819 --> 00:33:09.059 Hey, my job's not so bad either. 791 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:10.240 And we know who you are. 792 00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:11.019 Who are you leaving out? 793 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.529 You're not leaving out you, are you? 794 00:33:13.549 --> 00:33:15.650 Three of us have extraordinary jobs. So now what I 795 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:15.960 want to know. 796 00:33:16.009 --> 00:33:17.089 Just because I don't live in New York? 797 00:33:17.809 --> 00:33:24.150 So here's my point. So, boom, that's one story. Astronaut, astrobiologist. 798 00:33:24.809 --> 00:33:25.450 How did that happen? 799 00:33:25.470 --> 00:33:28.450 Comedian. I mean, but you followed a dream too, man. 800 00:33:28.809 --> 00:33:29.150 You know what? 801 00:33:29.190 --> 00:33:30.089 It was a little different. 802 00:33:30.210 --> 00:33:32.490 Chuck, I don't want to live in a world, certainly 803 00:33:32.529 --> 00:33:36.890 not a country, where there aren't comedians who have committed 804 00:33:36.910 --> 00:33:38.549 their lives to making others laugh. 805 00:33:39.569 --> 00:33:43.609 That makes one of us. There we go. I'm joking. 806 00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:44.410 Okay. 807 00:33:44.769 --> 00:33:48.069 So, no, I want to know this because it's important. Astronaut, 808 00:33:48.230 --> 00:33:51.750 how did that journey happen? 809 00:33:51.809 --> 00:33:54.339 I was six years old when they walked on the moon. 810 00:33:55.329 --> 00:33:55.890 Almost seven. 811 00:33:56.049 --> 00:33:57.089 There you go. 812 00:33:57.150 --> 00:33:59.589 July 20th, 1969. To build up to that, I can 813 00:33:59.609 --> 00:34:03.690 remember Apollo 10 going down low and not landing on 814 00:34:03.710 --> 00:34:05.519 the moon. But Apollo 11. 815 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:10.519 Watch out. That deserves some statement. Apollo 10 went to 816 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:11.019 the moon. 817 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:11.360 Correct. 818 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:17.409 Deployed the lunar module. The lunar module went down towards 819 00:34:17.469 --> 00:34:20.369 the surface, hovered, and then went back up and came 820 00:34:20.389 --> 00:34:20.909 back to Earth. 821 00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:21.349 Right. 822 00:34:21.849 --> 00:34:23.489 And I would have said, you know what I would 823 00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:23.739 have done? 824 00:34:24.139 --> 00:34:24.519 Landed. 825 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:25.699 I said, Houston, I

can't hear you. 826 00:34:26.429 --> 00:34:26.730 Houston. 827 00:34:28.059 --> 00:34:30.119 Houston, okay, we should land, right? 828 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:30.659 Right. 829 00:34:30.780 --> 00:34:32.199 See, I don't know that I would have been a 830 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.280 good law-abiding astronaut. 831 00:34:34.340 --> 00:34:36.300 You think they put fuel in the ascent stage on 832 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.179 that one? You guys are stuck there now. 833 00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:41.250 That was a very good astronaut joke. 834 00:34:41.289 --> 00:34:41.849 Yeah, it was. 835 00:34:41.889 --> 00:34:42.929 You know what I mean? 836 00:34:42.969 --> 00:34:46.090 Fuel in the ascent stage. I wish we had time. 837 00:34:46.170 --> 00:34:47.590 You've got to get off the moon. 838 00:34:47.610 --> 00:34:48.809 That was a very good ascent. 839 00:34:48.829 --> 00:34:50.429 This is part of the deal with Neil Armstrong. They 840 00:34:50.469 --> 00:34:53.239 had to come back. They landed. Same thing with Mars. 841 00:34:53.260 --> 00:34:56.199 You've already got to come back. Coming back is another launch. 842 00:34:56.579 --> 00:34:59.139 Something else will go wrong. Engine don't work, you're in trouble. 843 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.500 So anyway, yeah, so Apollo 10 and Apollo 8 when 844 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.099 they first orbited the moon, Apollo 10 when they almost landed. 845 00:35:05.579 --> 00:35:07.099 But there was no plan to do that. And then 846 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.579 Apollo 11 was the big mission. And I remember seeing 847 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.409 that on my TV set and looking outside in my 848 00:35:12.469 --> 00:35:14.550 front yard and looking at them. I mean, when you 849 00:35:14.570 --> 00:35:16.769 saw it on TV, Neil, you can remember this. You 850 00:35:16.789 --> 00:35:18.829 guys may be too young for this. But when you 851 00:35:18.889 --> 00:35:20.469 saw that, when you saw that on TV and you 852 00:35:20.550 --> 00:35:21.570 walk outside. 853 00:35:21.590 --> 00:35:22.650 12-inch black and white TV. 854 00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:25.150 Little black and white TV. Black and white TVs, right? 855 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.400 That's what it was. And it was at, I guess 856 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.460 the EVA was probably around 930. It was nighttime, close 857 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:31.719 to bedtime. 858 00:35:31.739 --> 00:35:33.159 Extra vehicular activity. 859 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:34.820 The space, the moonwalk. 860 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.329 The moonwalk, thank you. It's the moonwalk that precedes Michael 861 00:35:38.369 --> 00:35:39.190 Jackson's moonwalk. 862 00:35:39.269 --> 00:35:39.489 Right. 863 00:35:39.869 --> 00:35:43.070 And I've seen you do the other moonwalk at that 864 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:43.710 moon ceremony. 865 00:35:43.730 --> 00:35:45.530 I had 12 moonwalkers in the audience. 866 00:35:45.570 --> 00:35:48.429 It was really good. I had all 12 of them there. 867 00:35:48.929 --> 00:35:51.099 I had almost all the living ones were there. 868 00:35:51.179 --> 00:35:51.340 Yeah. 869 00:35:52.210 --> 00:35:56.280 But I remember going outside and looking at the moon 870 00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:57.860 and saying, there are people up there. 871 00:35:58.019 --> 00:35:58.420 Nice. 872 00:35:58.579 --> 00:35:59.880 And I love those guys. 873 00:35:59.900 --> 00:36:00.940 Oh, my God. 874 00:36:00.980 --> 00:36:04.940 Neil Armstrong and Mike Collins and Buzz Aldrin and all 875 00:36:04.980 --> 00:36:07.809 those astronauts in that era were my heroes. And I said, 876 00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:09.969 I want to be one of those guys. Nice. So 877 00:36:09.989 --> 00:36:13.889 it's interesting. I remember coming to the Hayden Planetarium as 878 00:36:13.909 --> 00:36:15.989 well when I was a little kid. My parents taking 879 00:36:16.010 --> 00:36:17.840 me there. I grew up in Long Island. But for me, 880 00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:20.219 I wanted to be one of those people. I wanted 881 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:21.659 to be one of those guys. And I had no 882 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.230 idea how that was going to happen. I was just 883 00:36:23.269 --> 00:36:25.650 a little kid on Long Island. No idea. But I 884 00:36:25.690 --> 00:36:26.670 thought they were it. 885 00:36:26.690 --> 00:36:30.829 That's fantastic. All right. This is our last story. 886 00:36:30.969 --> 00:36:31.530 Funky Spoon. 887 00:36:31.829 --> 00:36:34.639 Funky Spoon. Astrobiologist. 888 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:41.780 Yeah, well, similar to what Mike said, actually, my earliest 889 00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:45.550 vivid memory Actually, I mean, I have other early memories, 890 00:36:45.610 --> 00:36:48.389 but my earliest really vivid memory is. 891 00:36:48.349 --> 00:36:49.610 Apollo 11 landing. 892 00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:51.610 And my parents let me stay up real late, which 893 00:36:51.670 --> 00:36:55.030 probably was partly half of what was as exciting. But 894 00:36:56.090 --> 00:36:59.760 the black and white TV and seeing these guys walking 895 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.679 on the moon, that to me was, I think, really 896 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.320 a life changing experience. It was so exciting and it 897 00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:10.480 was real. It wasn't fiction. It was this adventurous, amazing experience. 898 00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:13.909 a groundbreaking journey. And even at that, at that age, 899 00:37:14.170 --> 00:37:16.369 I was in fourth grade, um, I guess. And, and, 900 00:37:16.530 --> 00:37:19.090 and I really just, my mind was blown by that. 901 00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:22.550 I mean, I'm definitely a child of Apollo and that 902 00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:24.909 I think set me on my life course. I became 903 00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:27.889 really caught up in the romance of space exploration. I 904 00:37:28.230 --> 00:37:32.340 was really enthralled by the early planetary missions, the first 905 00:37:32.380 --> 00:37:37.480 missions to Venus, the first

orbiters on Mars, seeing those 906 00:37:37.539 --> 00:37:40.570 pictures come back. Um, Now, I had kind of an 907 00:37:40.630 --> 00:37:45.949 unusual upbringing. Actually, my dad's best friend when I was 908 00:37:45.969 --> 00:37:50.170 a kid was Carl Sagan. And so Uncle Carl... Wait 909 00:37:50.230 --> 00:37:50.530 a minute. 910 00:37:50.769 --> 00:37:50.969 Yeah. 911 00:37:50.989 --> 00:37:52.989 Your dad's best friend was Carl Sagan? 912 00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:55.489 Yeah, they were both Harvard professors. 913 00:37:55.989 --> 00:37:58.800 Wait a minute. You started this story with a moon landing? 914 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.639 Well, no, it started from the moon landing. 915 00:38:01.820 --> 00:38:05.300 But then the fact that Uncle Carl was involved in 916 00:38:05.340 --> 00:38:05.760 these really. 917 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.179 This was before he was famous. He was Uncle Carl, 918 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:09.460 this really cool guy, you know? 919 00:38:10.099 --> 00:38:13.900 And he would come over with the latest pictures of 920 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.900 Mariner 9. 921 00:38:15.900 --> 00:38:18.920 Billions and billions of nephews. Exactly. 922 00:38:20.090 --> 00:38:23.650 And he was doing this really cool stuff. And then 923 00:38:24.050 --> 00:38:26.070 also I got really into science fiction. And I think 924 00:38:26.110 --> 00:38:28.300 in my young mind, I didn't really differentiate between 2001 and. 925 00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:33.599 You know, the space fiction and the real space stuff. 926 00:38:33.619 --> 00:38:35.940 It was all just exciting, romantic stuff, and it was 927 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:36.519 the future. 928 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:37.699 2001, A Space Odyssey, the film. 929 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:38.340 The film. 930 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:39.960 It was all what we were going to be doing 931 00:38:39.980 --> 00:38:41.739 in the future, and we were going to be, you know, 932 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.199 that was what it was going to be like. And 933 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.920 now here we are in the future, and we're not 934 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.289 sending people to Jupiter yet, but I've been able to 935 00:38:49.329 --> 00:38:52.789 be involved in spacecraft exploration of the other planets, and 936 00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:55.550 for me, that feels in a very real way, like 937 00:38:55.570 --> 00:38:57.929 I've been able to, in a sense, go into space. 938 00:38:57.969 --> 00:39:00.429 We were talking about this earlier with Carter Emmert from 939 00:39:00.469 --> 00:39:04.710 the from the museum who does the astrovisualization where even 940 00:39:04.769 --> 00:39:05.590 those of us who haven't. 941 00:39:05.789 --> 00:39:06.710 Has Carter been on here yet? 942 00:39:06.889 --> 00:39:09.329 Yeah, we had Carter on today. 943 00:39:09.610 --> 00:39:14.429 Carter does, for that next generation, what his counterparts did 944 00:39:14.489 --> 00:39:16.989 back when I went. I could sit here with the 945 00:39:17.030 --> 00:39:18.789 title of director, but we've got people who actually make 946 00:39:18.829 --> 00:39:19.070 this stuff. 947 00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:20.809 You're absolutely right. I didn't even realize that. 948 00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:24.170 So those of us who haven't been into space like you, 949 00:39:24.309 --> 00:39:27.090 I feel like we've participated in this way that's becoming 950 00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.719 more and more real because we can visualize it in 3D. 951 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.559 We send the machines out. They send back the... Not that... 952 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:33.920 I mean, I still think there's a role. 953 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.159 I want people to go to Mars and stuff, but 954 00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.519 I also think it's really cool that more and more 955 00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:40.599 of us are participating in this way that we're being 956 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.650 able to actually, in some sensory way, experience it. And 957 00:39:44.849 --> 00:39:47.809 to me, that's very real. I do feel like I have, 958 00:39:48.050 --> 00:39:51.139 in a way... been able to participate and go into space. 959 00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.920 Part of my brain's been there, even if my body 960 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:54.420 hasn't been. 961 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.039 Let's hear it for space. 962 00:39:56.099 --> 00:39:57.400 Yeah, let's hear it for space. 963 00:39:58.659 --> 00:40:00.400 This is StarTalk.