บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ 030 The Engineer, the Oracle and the Mystery of Egypt 36,000 Years Ago

--> 00:05:47.040 And in trance we visited Egypt together, walking around in trance, in Egypt, around the Great Pyramid of Khufu. 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.560 And that was an amazing experience. 00:05:50.879 --> 00:06:04.480 When I got the chance to organize the tour some years ago, uh, of course, Crystal was one of the persons that asked to take part because she's opened the uh the door to the ancient Egypt for me as well. 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.480 We we jumped a little bit there and we're going back for more detail. 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:33.839 But this is a perfect opportunity for me to go over to Crystal and ask for maybe Crystal, if you could share, both of you if you feel to, share some information about or detail about what you saw when you come into a past life together in all those years ago. 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:46.079 Because I that's why I I wanted to jump in, because Fleming so humbly described that first session that he had with me where we went in trance to Egypt. 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:53.199 But that was the first work ever where we sat down and for Fleming to go into a guided trans. 00:06:53.680 --> 00:07:06.959 And normally it would be to assist in that personal transformation, leadership development, whatever people come for assistance with, I take them into transformative meditations. 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:30.480 But with Fleming, the very first time um I sort of was prepared to guide him into a guided meditation, we simultaneously almost went into this dark hole and then related to a transportered in trance into that specific life that Fleming is talking about. 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:35.199 I'm used to it, it's something I've done always, it's part of my work. 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:41.040 But it was really extraordinary to see how Fleming instantly had the capacity. 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.439 So when he described these things, it's something that has been with him always. 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:51.199 We simply just opened the door to what he was innately capable of. 00:07:51.360 --> 00:08:01.920 So it was an extraordinary first journey to sit with as the first time I met a client, and we were transported to that lifetime that Fleming is talking about. 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:07.279 And I remember that I had I hadn't had this research gene for Egypt. 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:12.800 I've always been fascinated with the pyramid, but I don't know the history as such. 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:22.639 And I remember that there was water around the pyramids and there were like the long grass that we kind of were, I was looking from up on the pyramid. 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:43.360 And so when afterwards, when we spoke about that being transported to that specific life together at the same time to research or to see, and probably also both for Fleming to be almost affirmed his capacity and his belonging to that era. 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:50.559 For me, it's how I travel with clients, but it's usually me guiding and not at the

first time, not everybody is capable of it. 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.480 So we were traveling to that place. 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:59.759 So coming back, it was natural for Fleming because he has that extended knowledge about Egypt. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.759 He could say almost to how far back that has been. 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:12.960 He was explaining why the water was there, what we were actually looking back at, not centuries back about thousands years ago. 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:24.639 It was really interesting for me as being the oracular guidance and suddenly having hearing his stories and his capacity open up right there in front of me. 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:26.000 So it's very exciting. 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:31.200 So, Fleming, you talk about it the most natural thing on earth, and it was really incredible. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.639 It was really such a beautiful experience. 00:09:35.200 --> 00:10:09.759 So, Crystal, aside from the work, which you both do, there's something extraordinary about this because when you go into a space together, first of all, there's connection and the serendipity of coming together, and then to travel there together and be part of that previous existence or that previous lifetime, that is really something and a testament even to I guess souls that come back together to do extraordinary things. 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:15.600 So I would like to hear about what did you see there? 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:19.039 What was your connection there in that lifetime? 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.480 As in what were your roles together? 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.480 And anything that you can share around that is going to be absolutely fascinating. 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:39.600 I was experiencing as a spectator because I'm so used to guiding people into different sphere and different with not only lifetimes but different realities. 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.120 So I was a spectator. 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:42.240 I had a different age. 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:47.200 I felt like a child looking from the between the grants up on the pyramids. 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:58.960 So I'll leave it to Fleming to say what his experience, how he related to that specific time, whether it was time travel or whether it was a life that he felt he'd lived. 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:02.159 Please, Fleming, can you share? 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:04.000 Yes, I can. 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.279 It's some years ago now, but I vividly record that. 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:14.879 The thing that I saw was, as Crystal said, we were walking about in the reeds in in the vicinity of the water. 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:22.000 And at now the River Nile is far away from the pyramid, the Great Pyramid of Khufu. 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:29.759 But previously it has had much closer connection with the river because the river changes its flow all the time. 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:41.759 So we were walking around in the reeds, looking up, and I was seeing that there was some sort of procession going along and walking into the pyramid. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:54.879 And it was as if part of the pyramid on the northern side it suddenly opened up like this a door or portal or something like that opening up, and then you could walk up. 00:11:54.960 --> 00:12:00.000 And there was a small procession walking up, and we were looking at that going in there. 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.679 And that that's how I recall it. 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:29.919 Later on, on other sessions, I've been there as well in that neighborhood or in that in those same surroundings, and I've had the definite experience of being part of the procession, uh, not that procession, but another procession, and being part of the clerical setup, supporting the pharaoh, the king, in his duties and what he was doing. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:45.440 And I especially remember one time standing on very high up, looking down at a lot of people, and the pharaoh was standing next to me, or I was standing next to him, and he was enormously high, and I was very small. 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:50.480 And it's of course it wasn't like that that's so that I was a small person and he was a higher person. 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:58.720 It's more the symbolic representation of how our different roles in that setup was meant to be. 00:12:59.039 --> 00:12:59.600 Right. 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:01.120 Yeah. 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:06.559 Wow, and oh, continue flooding, please. 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:15.200 No, but again, it's it's strange because as I told you before, I've always felt that it was part of my history. 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.559 So I've no doubt in myself that I've been there before. 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.639 I've seen it, I've experienced it. 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:42.399 And when we went to Egypt again some years ago, we went to some of those places, and being there on our own, with not too many people around us, and some places we were all by ourselves, our small group of five or six people, you really get to feel that the energy in those buildings, part of it, is still alive. 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:50.399 Of course, it's been so many years now, and something has been demolished, but anyhow, the energy is still there and you can feel it. 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:55.039 And I feel very much attuned to it when whenever I go there. 00:13:55.279 --> 00:14:00.320 After I went with Crystal, I've been there two or three, three times afterwards. 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:11.039 So it is an amazing place to go because if you sit down and if you reach out from your inner self, you can connect with it very easily. 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:12.559 Stunning. 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:31.039 I was 12 when I learned of the pyramids in history class, and I was completely obsessed with it since then, and when I was around 30, I went for the first time travelling by myself. 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:42.960 I left my little kids and my husband behind went to Egypt, and I was not

very spiritual then actually, but it called me ever since I knew it existed. 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:51.120 And I found it, well, many things, but I found it probably different to how I perceived it. 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:59.360 But I also got to go into places or into the pyramid, only one was open when I was there, and there were no tourists. 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:06.480 Got to go in there and just feel the energy and the extraordinariness of them and that place. 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:26.000 So I think that what fascinates most people though is how did they get there, and I know in various past lives when I've facilitated them, some people go there, but they talk more about the healing energies and those types of areas. 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:41.519 I've had someone talk about construction and those types of things, but I know that your story, Larry, is far more detailed than anything that I've ever heard from people who've recalled being there long ago. 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.759 So I would love to hear more about that. 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:53.200 I think that those fascinating details about either what you believe happened or what you know happened, which is more what I feel you know what happened. 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.960 So, Crystal, do you have anything that you want to add? 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:08.799 Or you were in that initial lifetime with Flaming Exploring, and you've worked together on this before we get to talk about what happened when you were there together in 2019. 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.559 It was 2020, I believe, in the January, just in the in the beginning. 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:15.759 In the beginning, uh-huh. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:27.679 It's uh I would actually like to go back, and I don't remember whether that was me channeling a vision for you, Fleming, or you came with me at that specific time into that life. 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:47.759 What I remember, and this is a bit Fleming knows all the facts, I just had the visions, but I had a vision that we go 21,000 years back, and Fleming was literally there with somebody handing him the drawings for the big construction work for the pyramids. 00:16:48.080 --> 00:17:35.359 So I just vividly remember that vision and I saw kind of drawings, but I can't I can't really describe how it is because it's a mix between descriptions of how to build certain things and how to prepare, and it's literally prepare for the coming of it or that of a bit of a second round of something, and I saw vividly that Fleming was handed the the drawings or the specifics for the construction, or may I'm hearing construction is the not the correct word, but there is it's definitely some sort of manual to something, and for me, the number I heard was 21,000 years ago. 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:49.279 So for me, that's one thing that I saw and I want to mention because Fleming in in this lifetime is has a you know his with his business, what he does, it's it's it's about constructing as well. 00:17:49.440 --> 00:18:17.279 So he really has like the all the layers from the this physical world of knowing of buildings and architecture and land, and he has such an like that is the physical knowledge, then he has the in-depth knowledge of Egyptology, I call it, might not be the right word, but but very much the way he can describe the different angles, what they point to, what their access point to. 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:18.480 It's incredible. 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:23.599 I hope he'll share more of that, and then also the spiritual access. 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:40.640 Um we can call it spiritual, but clear knowing and access to the the different timelines of the pyramids is something that's very extraordinary to have both spirit, mind, and physique to it. 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:59.279 So I think that has been what have surprised me the most before going to see these different things be combined every time we went on a journey where we where he was guided there, or either I traveled with him or he was guided to go alone. 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:15.920 I had this feeling of everything was interconnected and unlocking a like a vast gamber of richness, a treasure that was meant to be communicated with the world. 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:26.960 So even before going on this research trip that Fleming arranged, I I already saw the treasure of the combination of the knowledge Fleming has. 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:49.440 And then when we then went to Egypt, I'll let that be for later, but but it was only um amplified what I already had seen, and then of course, then we had some amazing experiences there, but but I really think that to me goes 21,000 years back, or the number might not be right, but that is what was given to me. 00:19:49.680 --> 00:20:00.640 So I really think Fleming has a rich, prolonged experience in beyond lifetimes to Egypt. 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.960 But that makes that you're humble seeing it from my side. 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:10.880 I can tell that you're so humble, but it's like we're gonna pull this information out. 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:26.720 I'm so curious, I feel like a real bystander, and that I really want to ask you if you obviously being an engineer now, you know how things need to be to be built to make sense. 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:45.279 And I wonder if you have in all your studies as well, come up with any information that goes against what we do know about the pyramids, aside from the fact that it's far older than we've been, I guess, taught in history. 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:56.720 Is there anything else or anything at all that you've come across that is different to what most people know about the pyramids or have been taught? 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:00.000 I'll start by by just giving a little bit of my background. 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.759 In my everyday life, I'm a real estate property developer. 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:10.559 And uh I have a master's degree in science and and uh structural

engineering, so I know about how to build things. 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.240 I never built a pyramid though. 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:13.759 But I'm maybe you have. 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.200 Yeah, in this lifetime, but I haven't. 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:22.799 This gives me a factual background to evaluate some of the things. 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:46.079 And that's also uh what's helped me in appreciating what I call the alternative version because there's quite a large community around the world, people having studied what m might have been and how built the pyramid, not only the pyramid, but the pyramid around the complex around Giza and other places in Egypt, how it's all been built and why it was built. 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:59.599 And just to make some of it very short, that one of the main theories now is that at least the basic part of the Giza Plateau, the Sphinx and the pyramids, were. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:05.599 Built something around 10,500, 10,800 before Christ. 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:15.599 That has to do, for instance, with the alignment towards east and the alignment towards the constellation of Orion in the sky. 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:40.480 Because if you take the constellation of Orion as it were, 10,800, 10,500 before Christ, and put it down upon Giza Plateau, you'll have the three main pyramids positioned exactly, three belt stars in the Orion constellation with the Kafra, with the Kufu, the Kafra, and the Minkaura pyramids aligned. 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:49.359 So that that has been known in the alternative circles for some 30-35 years now, at least. 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:50.559 At least, yeah. 00:22:50.799 --> 00:23:07.759 But again, it might be even older than that, because we have we have this system with the precessional cycle where our planet it normally has a uh inclination of 23.5 degrees from horizontal down and then it rotates around. 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:11.599 But then again, because of the rotation, it also wobbles. 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:18.319 And it wobbles in a way so that it'll take 26,000 years for it to go around this circle. 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:28.880 And during this period, when the axis wobbles, it passes through the different constellation signs in our in our what's it called? 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.319 Yes, yes, sorry, looking for the word. 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:34.880 Yeah. 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.680 And she is not old enough. 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:46.000 Uh I am, so I know in the seven uh in the 70s we're saying this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:46.720 Indeed. 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:51.440 And we are now, and we are now in the dawning of the age of Aquarius. 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:58.000 We're moving from Pisces into the Age of Aquarius, and that's because of the world will take 26,000 years. 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:05.680 So there are people amongst the alternative, the alternative community that says Egypt might have been older still. 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:10.400 It might have been as old as 36,000 before Christ. 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.440 That is one precisional cycle even further. 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:17.920 And also there are some people thinking it it might be even older than that. 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:26.960 My God feeling, and I'm very much inclined to believe my God feeling because clear knowing is a good thing. 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:28.720 I I believe in clear knowing. 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.480 The right period for when it was all started. 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:50.160 I think it was perhaps built in different phases, but the main layout was perhaps laid down 36,000 before Christ. 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:55.839 And then it has been built uh roughly been built on in different phases. 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:16.319 And of course it has to be, of course, I say, but it might have been necessary to build it in different phases, because there are some 2.4 million blocks in the Kufu pyramid, and they generally weigh somewhere between three and five tons each, and some of them weigh up to sixty or seventy tons. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:34.960 And if you would have to build it in the 20 years time that is the official time that it was built in, according to the the academia, the main history, then it would mean that you have to put in one block every three or four minutes, something like that. 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:38.480 Uh 24-7 all year round, it was impossible. 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:42.799 And I don't think any builder today would be able to make that. 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:51.680 So it has to have been built over a longer period, or it has had to be built with different tools from what we know today. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:52.480 Do you see that? 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:53.759 And also when you look at it. 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:55.920 Oh, please. 00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:58.640 Don't forget what you were gonna say then. 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:12.319 I was going to ask you: do you feel or know if there was extraterrestrial involvement in something so phenomenal and potentially beyond the human capacity? 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:28.880 I'm a little I don't know really what to to how to answer that because extraterrestrial might also mean that it is something that we might know from from another lifetime, uh, if you can follow my meaning. 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:36.960 Uh I'm I'm not that much a believer in Martians or something like that coming and helping us out. 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:42.720 But there might there might be forces coming to us from the future or from the past. 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:43.599 Yes. 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:50.640 And now we are entering another another realm of my interest, and that's quantum mechanics. 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:58.079 Because quantum mechanics will can put a sort of a reference frame to what might have happened. 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.000 That's the way I think, anyhow. 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:13.119 Because if you go into

quantum mechanics at the very lowest level, that is beyond the molecular level, time uh doesn't exist the way that we know it. 00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:18.880 Time is not linear, it is a landscape that you can move around in. 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:25.119 So you can have cause and effect reverse in that landscape. 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:40.160 And my thinking is that perhaps something that we see now in in Egypt is something that has come to us from the future or from the past with reference to uh to the quantum mechanics. 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.319 It gets a little speculative. 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:46.400 No, it's get a lot of spec speculative uh saying it like this. 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:51.680 But I feel that there is a connection here uh that we should uh look further into. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.880 And that's why I'm very interested in quantum mechanics and read a lot about it and hear people talk about it. 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:08.400 Hopefully, in the future, when we get wiser in that area, it might be that we can get this what I call uh uh frame of reference to put this whole thing into. 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:09.440 Ooh. 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.000 It's a big jump now, it's a big jump now. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.200 It's a big jump. 00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:17.279 Wow, it's everything seems to be speeding up so much in this lifetime. 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:24.400 I'm wondering how much we're going to get into this frame of reference uh in our lives this time. 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:28.319 Well, we'll be there next lifetime, then we'll be there then too. 00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:28.960 Yeah. 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:41.680 Fleming, I know that I've heard some of the extraordinary things that happened for Crystal with the energies when you were at the pyramids in 2020. 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:59.839 And so I would love for you each to share what it was like, what it felt like, and potentially if there were any feelings or observations that were different to what you thought they might be. 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:10.240 So, Crystal, would you like to describe what it was like for you to go into those energies and what you discovered? 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:17.279 First of all, I was I came, as I say, I also said that to Fleming, I came very unprepared. 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:33.200 I didn't study because I wanted to come as like just a pure oracular advisor to be there with what I sensed instead of having preconditions, preconditioned thoughts about what I was meant to feel. 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:45.200 So when I arrived with Fleming and his group, um, I thought we were gonna go to the pyramid and the door was open and we would literally walk straight into the chamber. 00:29:45.599 --> 00:30:04.079 So when we got to these staircases, immense staircases, and we went having to crawl through shafts and tunnels, I my brain went into a little bit of a survival mode because I had a back injury, so I thought this is gonna cost me greatly. 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:18.079 So my mindset went into the physical experience while I was tuning in, and the first surprise was that I felt no physical strain. 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:26.480 It was almost as if the pyramid took away what I sensed as my physical sense. 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:50.880 So from being in this survival framework looking up at the staircases and the shafts that we had to enter, I literally felt that my physical body was this instrument, literally just to transport me through the space, having been stripped from any strain, despite um the staircases and everything. 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.680 Everybody who's been there know the journey, but I didn't know of what I was going into. 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.960 And the second thing, and I know that I don't I don't want to say too much. 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:13.920 I mean, you just you can talk about uh the experiences other people had, but I know one person that was there was was meant to have a hip replacement, and she had the same experience, it was very magical. 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:37.920 So that was my first impression and surprise um with how entering the pyramid instantly changed even the physical configuration as to what my body was used for, whilst then being able to tune in to something I almost felt was an organism. 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.119 I remember entering the chamber. 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:46.799 Fleming will tell all the names of the different pyramids, he just have every he knows everything about it. 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:52.880 But I remember that first experience when he had arranged for private visitation during the night. 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.240 He organized so that we would be undisturbed. 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:21.119 And so we were sitting meditating in that first chamber, and I remember literally feeling that I connected to an organism, like there was a skeleton, sort of imaginary skeleton in the building, and my breath and my heartbeat started as in trance when some other organism wants to speak through me that entered and was with me. 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:43.119 So there was definitely an intention behind the building of it, had to be like build like an organism that was meant to sort of take us into another consciousness, but also a vehicle of transportation, whether it's merely with the mind and soul, or whether it's physically, I don't know. 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:52.720 So that surprised me as well how much of an organism feel that was connecting to that very first pyramid. 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.880 I can continue, but I'll just stop there. 00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:59.119 So, Fleming, you can say what your experience was as well. 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:00.640 Yeah. 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:14.000 We went into four different pyramids all together on a private basis, so it gave us sufficient time to absorb the situation, feel the energy, and do our stuff whilst we were there. 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:22.160 And the first thing

that you experience when you do that is the energy in these four different pyramids. 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:23.519 It's totally different. 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.960 It's totally different. 00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.200 It's not very easy to explain with common words, but you can feel it. 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:34.480 It's either soft or hard or whatever it is, but it's so totally different. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:43.359 Um we had a small group, and I brought my wife and my older son as well, and they are what I call non-believers. 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.920 Um my wife believes a little bit. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:50.960 My older son he doesn't believe very much. 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.200 I think now he does, but uh at that time he didn't. 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:04.960 When we went into the um to the Kafra pyramid, the second pyramid, we could feel that the energy was totally different from the Khufu pyramid. 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:12.719 It's much much more soft and a little bit more accommodating than in the Khufu pyramid. 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:23.920 And in the Kafra pyramid, uh there is um in the in the central chamber, there's an open coffin, and we tried to lay down there. 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.400 And I can tell now what my son said when he had done that. 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:34.880 He said something like, I felt so strong that I could run all around the world. 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:45.280 So it came to him, and it was for me one of the one of the great things that an unbeliever like him could feel this this energy here. 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:57.519 The other thing is that as Kristen told my wife, she was about to have one of her hips replaced with an artificial hip, which took place some five months after we went into the pyramid. 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.519 And normally she wouldn't be able to crawl as we had. 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.320 We had to bend down and crawl on our hands and knees. 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.239 And she did that with no problems at all. 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:12.079 And I'm quite sure that it was because of the special energy that we found in these pyramids here. 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:17.679 So it is extraordinary to feel that it is like this. 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:19.840 Wow, magical. 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:20.639 Yeah. 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:21.920 It is, yes, yeah. 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:22.960 And I love the F. 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:28.559 Fleming, the four different energies, because it was extraordinary as to the different energies. 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:35.360 And in the pyramid, you say where where we were lying, well, where you, I didn't go into the conference, but where you were lying down. 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:39.760 We have a picture of your son when his energies were really strong. 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:47.840 And also I remember with your wife, her background as a as a head nurse, is that the right title, Clemen? 00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:52.639 Her healing energies became

very strong in that in that pyramid. 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.880 You could literally see her, see the energy, feel her hands, and how everything expanded. 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:05.039 It was really an amplifier of who we were, but in a gentle way. 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:10.320 It literally took out the, you know, literally amplified the best in all of us. 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:20.960 Where the first one was very much live energy, how to support humanity or the universal energy, how to transport communication and beings. 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:38.880 And another pyramid we went into, the third one was for me, it felt like, and I never referenced to this, this is something other people work with, but I felt almost walking into the archaic records, it was very much like a library of wisdom, that infinite wisdom. 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:51.280 And the last pyramid that I visited with Semi, I went home a bit before everyone, but we traveled a bit away, a bit outside of that area where the first three pyramids were. 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:56.320 And the closer we got, the more tense I felt in my energy system. 00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:10.639 And I remember feeling so clearly that that pyramid, every time I went into a pyramid, the energies went through me, it kind of overshadowed me, and I then felt the messages of the different pyramids. 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:29.119 Now we're very superficially touching upon it, but I knew that if I went into that pyramid, the overshadowing of my energy, I would have to feel like a woo energy, like a very confronting energy, something that could use me as a tool for warfare. 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:33.199 And I was literally trying to call in, but I had to call back out. 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:37.679 I had to say that my energies could not be in that pyramid. 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:43.920 So I stayed outside to protect my energy and send protective energies into the group who went in. 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:52.000 And I remember Fleming telling me that there was a military base just next to it, which to me also just shows how energies attract. 00:37:52.159 --> 00:38:08.000 Why do energies and buildings, where do people build everything from military basins to where we build churches, where we build in general, what kind of energies are influencing us and attracting us to build certain things around them? 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:16.320 So I really love how Fleming describes the four different energies because it was very apparent to me, very, very powerful. 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.880 Also, as to what we can use them for if we tune into it. 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.679 And as Fleming using his clear knowing, he could write a book about this. 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:42.159 He's very humble and he likes to put facts to things before he claims his clear knowing is valuable, but he has a library within him and a clear knowing of she could write books and books and books about these things. 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:47.039 Crystal, I literally was thinking I have to ask Fleming next and now. 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:49.920 Have you written a book? 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:59.280 And if not, when will we see the documentation of all of your knowledge and observations? 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:10.159 When I get the time, and when I I've been trying to put it all together for quite some years now, but it has to come at the right moment. 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.519 But I don't think the right moment has come yet, but it must come. 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:21.360 I would like to expand a little bit on what Crystal said because we have this clear understanding that the energy and the pyramids are very different. 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.480 And of course, I ask myself why? 00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.400 Why is it like that? 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:36.079 And I think that the answer is that you have to look for why the pyramids were constructed as they were. 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:44.000 And to me, they were constructed because they were a they were a tool for initiation. 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:54.000 They were a tool for initiation of the elite in the clerical system in in ancient Egypt. 00:39:54.559 --> 00:40:05.760 Because when you look into the the Egyptian, the ancient Egyptian mythology, the basic thing for the Pharaoh was to preserve Ma'at. 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.880 And Ma'at means that you have to bring everything in balance. 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:18.719 He had to put his country in balance, he had to put his people in balance, he had to put the life in balance. 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:25.119 That was his main objective, to see that Ma'at was preserved. 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:46.880 And the next thing that springs to mind is that this is what is, as far as I see it and read it and understand it, this is what is described in what is now known as the Book of the Dead, which is a wrong description because it should rather be the Book of Coming Forth by Light. 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:53.440 Translation from ancient Egypt, Egyptian into English, the book of coming forth by light. 00:40:53.760 --> 00:41:12.239 This was the description of how, as far as I see it, it was the description of how the tried to bring their souls, their inner life, their inner understanding to a higher level psychologically. 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:22.559 They were very experienced and they were very knowledgeable about how the human nature was constructed. 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.519 The Egyptians were much more sophisticated. 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:56.800 And they were trying to enlighten themselves and they were trying to bring themselves into these different states where they were able to access the other the other parts of what life is really about. 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:02.559 And in order to do this, they had to go through a system of initiation. 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:08.000 I'm a Freemason as well, so I know what initiation is in life. 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:22.239 We have uh there's not

nothing secret about telling that in Freemasonry around the world you have three main degrees that you are initiated and then you advance according to how you learn to advance. 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.000 They did the same thing, I think. 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.599 Oh yeah, I know. 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:32.639 Used the energy in these different pyramids, ex especially the three pyramids in the Giza Plateau. 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:44.239 They used this to enhance their experience about enlarging their understanding of what life really is. 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:52.960 Unfortunately, what happened with this recording is we lost audio for Fleming. 00:42:53.519 --> 00:43:03.840 So it made it tricky for what we had said coming up, and even for what Crystal had said because there was a lot of interaction yet, and we didn't have all the audio. 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.159 We have to get Crystal and Fleming back. 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:16.719 So stay tuned, and we'll just continue with the outro for this episode. 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:19.599 How good was that? 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:26.559 What stays with me the most from this conversation is something Fleming said about the ancient Egyptians. 00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:31.599 They understood people in a far more sophisticated way than we do now. 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.000 That I can relate to. 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:41.760 Because when I look at soul life psychology and the work I've spent 20 years developing, I can see that same thread. 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:58.800 Understanding who we are, why we behave the way we do, why we do what we do, why we experience what we experience, how intuition, emotion, the mind, the soul, and the human condition all belong in the same conversation. 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:00.159 And then there's mind. 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.280 For me, mind speaks directly to the cycle of life. 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:10.079 Across lifetimes, we experience different sides of being human. 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:19.519 Love and loss, power and powerlessness, rejection, abandonment, betrayal, humiliation, injustice, connection and belonging. 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.320 We keep experiencing until our understanding expands. 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:33.280 That movement towards balance isn't something reserved for ancient priests or philosophers or people with special knowledge. 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.719 It's for every person living a human life. 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:47.440 Listening to Fleming and Crystal in our conversation also reminded me how many threads only make sense when we have hindsight. 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.760 My own fascination with Egypt began when I was young, about 12. 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.360 I've been there myself. 00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:59.199 I've spent two decades working with past lives, intuition, human behaviour, and the soul. 00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:07.280 And now at this point in evolution of humanity, I'm bringing all of these threads together through solo psychology. 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:15.599 There are times what looks like a new direction is actually something we've been moving towards the whole time. 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.519 In fact, that's always the case. 00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:23.199 Thank you, Crystal and Fleming, for this conversation and for sharing so openly. 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:33.119 If you've enjoyed today's conversation, I'd love you to subscribe, leave a review, or share this episode with someone who's searching for answers. 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:39.920 You can find everything about solo life psychology at solopsychology.com. 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:50.400 If you want to explore this work personally, you can join us in the Solo Circle, which is also solopsychology.com for Slife Circle. 00:45:50.719 --> 00:46:02.880 And if you feel drawn to take this work even further and become a solo psychology practitioner, our training intake is coming up for 2027. 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:12.320 So you're also welcome to send me questions or topics that you'd like me to explore in a future episode through the podcast page. 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:17.280 Until next time, remember that your life is not random. 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:21.119 Self awareness is the ultimate activism. 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:22.159 I'm Dr. 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.360 Tony Riley.