บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Situps For Satan, featuring Michael Boston

00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:37.319 pages every day and then mom, Yeah, okay, well maybe 80 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:38.600 one day, maybe. 81 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:42.600 One day, one day when you're gonna look back on 82 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.279 the old days or you'll publish them. 83 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.279 Yes, But anyway, let's get back to you. So anyway, 84 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.120 since we were talking about diary, did you ever have 85 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.519 one growing up, like when you were a kid. 86 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.519 I probably had a couple. Yeah, what did you have 87 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:01.519 to hide? Being born in the nineties? 88 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.759 Masturbating when I was eighteen eighteen? Is that when you 89 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.279 started Mormon? Yeah? 90 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.680 Did you actually talk about that? I talk about that 91 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.759 another Mormon guest because the other one we have had 92 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:18.439 men Mormons are very gay. 93 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.839 We have had like the I love doing porn. 94 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.120 I know they do. I don't know why. Tell us 95 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:26.759 what it was like growing up more? Where was it 96 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:29.240 in like rural Utah? 97 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:31.959 Yeah? It was a true Utah Mormon. 98 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:33.759 Well, I mean I wasn't born in Utah, it was. 99 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.040 I lived in several different places before then, and I 100 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:37.759 don't look on those memories fondly, and I don't like 101 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:39.959 to talk about them, but I'll talk about them for 102 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:41.120 for entertainment purposes. 103 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.519 I guess we're asking you to all you have. 104 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:47.519 I don't know what just sucked. 105 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:49.639 Did you have Jeff's siblings? 106 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:51.800 Yeah, I have a twin brother and then a younger sister. 107 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.120 A twin brother. Is he gay? Straight? 108 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.959 Is a faggot? Yeah, he's a homosexual. 109 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:00.399 We have a relationship with him now. 110 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.199 He lives in Jersey City and he and my mom 111 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:03.920 just bought a house like together. 112 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.000 Yeah, that's kind of cute, so she must be accepting. Yeah, 113 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:08.639 she's cool for home, She's always been cool. 114 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.360 No, she was fucking having sex at a wedlock. Okay, 115 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.079 she's a fucking horror. Oh yeah, there's no one in 116 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:15.839 my family that has a fucking leg to stand on 117 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:18.319 about anything. Were all at the church so wonderful? 118 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:18.720

Yes? 119 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.879 Okay, God, how about your dad? Are you guys close 120 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:21.560 to him? Well? 121 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.439 I didn't grow up with my biological dad. Okay, I 122 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:24.920 didn't learn that till I was thirteen. I have a 123 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:26.439 weird mess of a life. 124 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:28.279 Okay, let's get into it. 125 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.040 Sure's whatever you want to share forever Okay, give us 126 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:35.519 the cliffs notes basically, Okay, well, no, I don't know 127 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:36.120 if I can tell you. 128 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:37.879 I'm so sorry. 129 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:39.759 I have some leading questions. 130 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.319 Yes, leave me daddy. 131 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:46.920 Okay, So when and how do you feel like you 132 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.319 got out of that life? And did you go to school? 133 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.240 Like did you when did you leave the church? 134 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.040 I guess I was kind of done. When I was 135 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.759 eighteen nineteen, my brother and I moved to sall like 136 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:01.920 we lived in the town what was it, a condo 137 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.480 in Salt Lake City together and we were going to 138 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.519 the I think it was the University of Utah, and 139 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.360 nonither of us lasted longer than like a semester because 140 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:11.800 it was dumb and stupid and we didn't want to 141 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:13.959 pay all this money to go to school and like 142 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.639 being all this debt and bullshit. But anyway, it's a 143 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:20.519 different conversation. I was said nineteen then like nineteen twenty 144 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:23.079 I started having sex, and then like three guys on 145 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:24.240 a Wednesday was normal for me. 146 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.720 And then yeah, three guys on Wednesday was normal. 147 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:28.920 Well, like you know what I mean, Like I was 148 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:29.879 having lots of sex. 149 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:31.720 So you hit the ground, right, how did Yeah? 150 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.519 So, were you using apps to find guys. I was 151 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:40.600 credits personals, craitless personal Yeah, okay, so that's a little 152 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:41.439 nod to the Yeah. 153 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.920 Sure, it was like the very end of it, I feel, 154 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:46.519 because I remember when I moved to Florida a couple 155 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.480 of years later, it was like down, they got rid 156 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:50.759 of it. When I moved to Florida. I think that 157 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:55.480 was in twenty No, twenty seventeen. When to Florida tway seventeen,

158 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:56.759 twenty eighteen, yeah, pay seventeen. 159 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:00.920 Okay, Yeah, all right, good times. Wasn't a really difficult 160 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:01.839 time coming out for you. 161 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:04.600 I never really came out. I just kind of just 162 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:06.720 was like, I'm just gonna flaunt what I'm doing in 163 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.839 front of everyone, and then if they don't like it, great, 164 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:10.839 and if they do, who cares. 165 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.360 Did you ever have a conversation like with your mom 166 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:14.040 or your brother? 167 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:15.759 Like, did you ever My mom told me when I 168 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:17.560 was thirteen if I was if I was gay, it 169 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.199 was okay, And of course, being a little thirteen year 170 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:20.879 old faggot who was still going to church, like no, 171 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:22.560 I'm not like you know. 172 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.240 But she saw it. She could see the pain of 173 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:25.959 coorse she did. 174 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.240 She could see the pain. Yeah, my mom only. 175 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.439 My mom probably only went back to church when after 176 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:33.159 she had my brother and I because it was kind 177 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.120 of an ultimatum to keep us so because she had 178 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:38.799 us as a single mother in England in like their 179 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:39.559 mid nineties. 180 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.759 Oh right, I forgot you were born in England. 181 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.159 Were born in England. You haven't lived there for a time. 182 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:46.440 I looked there for like two years. 183 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.519 My mom's American Italian, so she wanted to get out 184 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.159 of the UK as as she could because she loves America. 185 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:53.720 Oh god, it's all I mean. 186 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:55.919 Back back then, back then, America was pretty cool. 187 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.279 Yeah, you know, yeah, the nineties we get a little 188 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:03.080 bit more home of phobic, to be more homophobic now again. 189 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.759 But I think not as a people, not as Americans. 190 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.879 I think it's a weird regime thing. Yeah, sure, we. 191 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.320 Need to go down there. We don't want to. 192 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.279 Clinton era was when America was comfortable being America. 193 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.679 As it was at the time. Yeah, yeah, you know 194 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:18.120 what I mean. 195 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:19.480 Yeah, And also kind. 196 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:23.679 Of like Clinton a little bit too, because he didn't 197 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:25.200 really help in a lot of ways. I mean, like 198 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.360 they say Reagan was really bad, and yes he was, 199 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.879 but also Clinton did some ship that like really escalated 200 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:33.200 a lot of bullshit with our situation. Now, well, he 201 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.840 was the one that really like put the jobs across 202 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:38.159 the seas. 203 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:43.120 He protective protected it like designated. 204 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.559 Like rural towns and like Middle America. And that's why, 205 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.360 like now they don't ever vote Democrats ever again because 206 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:49.279 it fucked them up. 207 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:52.360 Interesting. Yeah, wow, Okay, you're. 208 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:53.799 Got what it's called. But it's a thing. 209 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.200 Let me. I wanted to ask, because we usually asked 210 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:03.159 this of our guests, what was your introduction to porn? Like, 211 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:06.399 as far as the consumer, do you remember the first? 212 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:11.440 So when I was thirteen thirteen, it was between twelve is, 213 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.799 between sixth grade and seventh grade, I looked up boys 214 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:15.879 kissing who didn't and I got in trouble. So I 215 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.080 go touch my bishop and like I thought, I had 216 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.679 like a porn addiction because like every summer I would 217 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:22.480 get bored and horny. I would just look up boys 218 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.399 kissing whatever. And that's back when YouTube they had a 219 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.279 wholesome boys Yeah, boys kissing, Like I was just yeah, 220 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.519 like a girl. No, like you know, like when you're 221 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:34.799 you're a young horny boy, when like just watching like 222 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:38.480 hot kissing just gets you just hard. Now I'm like whatever, 223 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:44.039 like who cares, Like where's the fisting? Not kidding? Why 224 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.240 why is he telling him he loves him? That's gross? 225 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:48.960 But yeah, you don't see that important. 226 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.639 I love you, I love you, love you fuck me, 227 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:52.559 it's rare. 228 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.840 He gently lays you down and like a bed of roads. 229 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:04.879 That would be love. I just love triangle through friendship 230 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:06.639 love triangle. 231 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:13.720 Yes, right, just very soft lesbian porn, like constantly and 232 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:15.759 every second can I touch you here? 233 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:17.360 Can I still touch you? Is it okay? 234 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:23.759 Are

you saying she just snack oils to drink, But 235 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:26.600 basically yeah, like twelve but it wasn't really porn. And 236 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:28.840 then after that whole experience of like basically being told 237 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.399 porn is bad and like trying to like shove down 238 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:34.360 my homosexuality and pretend like I wasn't gay and hoping 239 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:38.200 it was a phase. Come Florida. When I moved to Florida, 240 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.879 and basically right before I started doing porn, when I 241 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.080 started being like, you know what, porn's kind of hot 242 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:44.039 and I started drinking. 243 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.200 On where in Florida. 244 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.559 I first lived in Lakeland, Florida, which is it's in 245 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.360 between Tampa and Orlando. It's actually a really big area. 246 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:53.120 But it's inland. 247 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:54.039 Yeah. 248 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.440 Oh, we lived in inland because we didn't want hurricanes. 249 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:57.440 Who want some? 250 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.200 Yeah, well, well because the think about hurricanes is the 251 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.960 worst part of hurricane. I mean, yes, the wind, but 252 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:06.240 like also the storm surge. Yeah yeah, yeah, so like 253 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:10.080 if you me, yeah, kind of not really. I mean, 254 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.080 you know what kind of yeah it is, but it isn't. 255 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:12.799 Wow. 256 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:14.919 I feel like a spoiled California hearing this. This was 257 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.159 never something, if at all. 258 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:19.759 A tsunami thing, but nothing happened. 259 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:26.799 Yeah yeah, like just some high tide and you're holding on. 260 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.159 Growing up. For the most part, earthquakes were like kind 261 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.720 of exciting. It was like, oh my god, it was 262 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.000 just the north were like oh, I think. 263 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:35.840 I felt one once with my dog when I first 264 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.200 got her last year. But then, like I could have 265 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.279 been high. I don't know your last year. When I 266 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.639 got my dog last year, I felt one. I thought 267 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:44.679 I felt one, Okay. 268 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.840 I used to feel them in my apartment on King's 269 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.559 Road in West Hollywood because I was up a little 270 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.200 building and I was like up. Then I'd feel like 271 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.240 I kind of feel it waving and I'd be like, 272 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:58.440 lose is how I'm gonna die? And I'd stand under 273 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.000 the doorway and then it would pass. 274 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:00.440 Wow. 275 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:04.320 Really but yeah, and then I'd get online, and then 276 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.840 I'd get online and go to stupid. I'd go to 277 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.320 did you feel it? Dot com? 278 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.080 Oh really, that's the thing. 279 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.360 Right, I get like the noto vocations on my ring 280 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:14.320 doorbell thing? 281 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.720 Oh yeah, but I didn't. We didn't have abs like that. 282 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:21.759 But when I lived on Kings, wait, did you feel it? 283 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.200 I lived on Kings for fourteen years, but you. 284 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.440 Lived on Kings when I first moved here. 285 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:27.200 Yeah? 286 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.279 Yeah, when was that there were ring doorbells? That was 287 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:31.320 in twenty twenty. 288 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:32.639 You moved here in twenty twenty. 289 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:34.960 That was my last year on King. I know, I remember. 290 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:38.799 I remember sucking you in there. 291 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:42.080 Yeah. I was very excited too because I knew about you. 292 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:45.840 Oh yeah you were fresh because you yeah fresh. Well, yeah, 293 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:51.120 I was very excited. It was like you. I I 294 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.000 had guys that I knew about that I wanted to 295 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.600 work with that I suddenly gained access to by having 296 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:00.600 an only a fan. So I was like, okay, he 297 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.440 was so and he was ne The first one, the 298 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.440 first porn guy that I collapseds was JJ Knight, and 299 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:11.639 I was like, yes, and actually one of the what 300 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.399 a porn scene that I know you from that I 301 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:19.440 love is from Hot Rock Confessions. 302 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.159 It's New Rock Confessions and J J. 303 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.240 Knight and Alex Makeham and they suck you sauna time. 304 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.120 That's a lot of that was fun. 305 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:35.519 And I was like, that's a studio okay, which brings 306 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:41.759 me to what was your first studio scene? And you've 307 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:43.919 told me I give you. 308 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.000 I gave you more than I give people, more than. 309 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.639 They bargain for all the time. In what way? I 310 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.480 don't know? And in this case, in what way? 311 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.240 Because he because he asked what was your first studio scene? 312 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.759 But like, there's just so much more nuance. We like 313

00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:57.440 the nuance. 314 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.080 We want nothing to be ashamed. 315 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:02.399 Of ashamed, you know. I just don't want to give 316 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:03.519 people too much because it's. 317 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:05.960 Like, do you mean too much information or too much? 318 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:07.039 All right? 319 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:08.960 Let me just answer and then he can yelling you 320 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:12.840 if you want to, okay. Chapter one. It was back 321 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.679 in twenty eighteen. I was I just started doing porn. 322 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.360 I had it, so I got an agent in January. 323 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:20.840 I don't think he even does agent shit anymore. 324 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.759 You did porn before, you did studio Born before only 325 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:24.720 fans exist. 326 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.759 Yes, so I come from a dancing background, so like, 327 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.519 I'm kind of like, I love a studio, I love 328 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:31.440 I love a structure. 329 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:34.559 Yeah, I love a production. 330 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:38.320 Yeah yeah, yes, yes, so yes, So I started at this. 331 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:41.960 It was It's broke straight boys is twenty eighteen when 332 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.679 you were living in February. I was living in Lakeland, Florida. 333 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:47.960 How did how did they find you through my agent? 334 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.519 So you made the decision I want to do porn. 335 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:52.080 I'm going to get an agent so I can do 336 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.879 studio porn. Yeah. And the first thing that they got 337 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:57.000 you was this broke. I was very thin. 338 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.960 Okay, it was tinky tinky. Yes, yeah, now it happens. 339 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.519 You're at eight at what hell? 340 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:10.559 I was twenty two, Yes, twing Twink at Best Yes 341 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:11.480 on a good day. 342 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:17.159 Yes, I was like Twink. I was twin Water at 343 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:18.279 Best Water over here. 344 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.320 Yeah. So I did like five things for them because 345 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:23.919 they're one of those I don't even know what they 346 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:25.320 do anymore. On the take didn't exist? 347 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.879 Okay, how was that experience? It was great? It was easy. 348 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.360 Who was your first don't partner? 349 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:33.440 Don't remember their names because none of them matter. 350 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.039 But I don't want to say, but I'll say, well. 351 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.919 They're broke, straight boys, and I was. I was there 352 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:40.559 because I wanted to be amazing. 353 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:43.919 Yeah, and were you yes? Did you feel like you delivered? 354 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:49.679 I am now, of course I was. So you took 355 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:51.600 to it like a duck to water, is what you're saying. 356 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.919 What I was doing? Yeah, but it wasn't. 357 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.639 I had lots of training and having sex, you know, 358 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:59.000 I mean three guys like every day basically like I 359 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:01.240 was having lots of sex. When first started having sex. 360 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:05.160 Do you consider yourself now I'm slowing down, It was 361 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:06.559 like none, it happened. 362 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:09.920 No, I haven't had sex in a minute. I remember 363 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:11.079 the last person touched me. 364 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.000 If you feel like, did you ever think that maybe 365 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:20.960 you had a sex addiction? No? I was just really horny, it's. 366 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:20.400 Yeah, because. 367 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:23.680 I don't. 368 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.599 I didn't ever cont I was eighteen too. What how 369 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.480 I was Mormon. They don't let you masturbate, and you 370 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:34.799 followed these I didn't know how. Oh baby, I never 371 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.920 touched myself because I was a devout Mormon. 372 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.279 Okay, what I want to. 373 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.359 Know, I wasn't until I was living on my own 374 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:44.559 and then. 375 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:45.799 It was pause. 376 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.839 Sorry, I need to know what was that first experience. Like, 377 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:50.839 tell us about the first time we came at eighteen 378 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.839 hands free doing sit ups. 379 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:55.119 Explain tell us this story. 380 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.279 I was doing ups in my room because I was 381 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:59.480 in ballet class, and they would they wouldn't shoot on 382 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.279 the boys and little dramatic, but they would tell the 383 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:02.920 boys be strong, so you can let the girls. The 384 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.880 girls roll two pounds and like this is easy whatever, 385 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.119 who cares? But anyway, I was being a diligent dancer 386 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.359 and a student, so I was doing sit ups in 387 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:13.079 my room and I probably used my pelic floor muscles 388 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:15.640 in a weird way by accident, oop to Daisy, and 389 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:17.839 I came all over myself hands free doing sit ups. 390 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.279 What wow? And what did you think when that happened. 391 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.359 I knew what it was. I've taken sex ed and 392 00:18:24.599

--> 00:18:27.880 all the child avelopment classes and ship so like I 393 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.240 knew what it was. But I was like, oh no, 394 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.759 oh sinn. Then I was like scared. I would do 395 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:36.759 sit ups for for evil Satan. 396 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:45.319 Satan? So then, so did you did you like follow? 397 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:46.920 Were you like, I'm going to try this again? 398 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:50.359 I tried to not. Oh yeah, no, I was constantly 399 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.279 coming doing setups. Yet at that point, Wow, can you 400 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.480 do it now? No, No, I'm too sensitized. She's just 401 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:58.480 been funny so many times in the ass, like the 402 00:18:58.559 --> 00:18:59.680 pellic floor is gone. 403 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:05.519 What if I can remember you don't have a trouble, 404 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:07.480 you don't have a hard time coming. 405 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:07.960 No. 406 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:12.000 Yeah, which I think is a good thing for a 407 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:13.039 performer to have. 408 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:16.680 It's kind of what gets you hired. It's not a require. 409 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:21.440 I'm not. I feel like so many times now I'm 410 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.680 working with these twinks that can't can't sove off. It 411 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:25.279 just takes them. 412 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.480 I don't know why they keep hiring. But you know what, whatever, 413 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:30.240 they got a fine shots all the time. 414 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:30.799 It's fine. 415 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:31.799 You know what, Let it all burn? 416 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:34.920 Who cares? Let it all burn? Let what all burn? 417 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:36.160 To say? 418 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:37.920 I think you know what I mean, you know what 419 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.799 we're gonna get. We're gonna get to that. No, we're 420 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:42.079 gonna get all right, let's keep. 421 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:42.720 The train on the tracks. 422 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.039 Okay, Sorry, I'm really going to do railing. 423 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:45.599 Okay. 424 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:47.720 Sorry, let's let's try not to talk. 425 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:49.640 And I know when I do that to you, I'm sorry. 426 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:52.119 It's okay, Okay, I know we're we're all doing it 427 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:53.279 because we're excited to talk. 428 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:56.720 We're to be here, just three faggots with a lot 429 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.640 of say, what has. 430 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:05.519 Been your favorite studio to work for or the least 431 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.440 the one that you hated least? 432 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:11.359 The hate comes. 433 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:12.519 Well, all right, the hate comes later. 434 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.160 I hate the hate. Well, maybe not hate, but it's 435 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.279 like a little bit of. 436 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:18.960 Sadness, a little bit of like hurt. 437 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:20.839 Yeah, I liked all of them. 438 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:22.079 I liked all of them for the most part. Each 439 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.079 one had their their their pluses and minuses, Like you 440 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.079 know any any place you work. 441 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.720 But you've done a lot of scenes over. 442 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:32.039 They apparently have done three hundred and seventy one movies. 443 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:33.920 I didn't know that. You tell someone told me that 444 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:36.720 you have a good book of work, a solid book 445 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:42.920 of work. What studio consistently does a good job with you? 446 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:46.279 I feel, or that you had a best time with 447 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:47.200 Maybe I feel like. 448 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:51.640 Falcon was the gayest, which was fun, like you feel 449 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:56.480 Falcon was the gayest for me, everyone was gay, like 450 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.279 you didn't feel like it didn't feel weird, and even 451 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.039 like like it didn't feel weird being there and being homosexual. 452 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:04.839 And then other studios like I felt like almost in 453 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:06.680 a mask up and like they would always hire these 454 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:12.720 shitty nothing against I guess gayer payers in some respects 455 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:15.960 shapes and forms. But when you have these gayer payers 456 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.039 that are kind of shitty and you know, they're probably 457 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:19.759 getting paid five times as much as you, and they're 458 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:21.920 not really like giving their all and you're doing all 459 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.400 the work, that's when I have a problem. 460 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:27.200 And did that happen a lot with Stern Studios? 461 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:31.720 Yeah, some of them are still working now. Wow, Okay, 462 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:33.440 she's moving on to bigger and better things. 463 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:38.720 And were you mistreated ever? I feel like that is mistreatment. 464 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:40.279 What is mistreatment? 465 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.640 Being told being told that you should be so lucky 466 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:47.119 because you're a faggot to fuck these like hot straight guys, 467 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:49.200 but like they're straight and you almost feel like you're 468 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:49.880 raping them. 469 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:51.400 Were you explicitly told them? 470 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:51.640 Yeah? 471 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.960 I was told that by studio people or by the performers. 472

00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.759 Studio people like, wow, seriously, that's so gross. 473 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.279 I could name them. I'm not going to. Okay, you 474 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:00.720 don't have. 475 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:05.000 It was in Montreal, just say that, so I'll say 476 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:11.920 it for you. Anyway, did she even do anything anymore? 477 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:13.440 I don't know what's going on with any of these 478 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:14.839 studios anymore. I'm so in the dark. 479 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:21.039 It's so Montrealmen dot Com is based in Montreal, and 480 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.240 they do hire a lot of straight men from these. 481 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.960 Stupid strip clubs. Why can't you hire some good faggot. 482 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:31.960 Stop bringing in these new pieces of ship. You already 483 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:33.200 have good gay talent. 484 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.799 I feel like I feel like the straight talent that 485 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:39.920 I worked with in Montreal, they were good performers. 486 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:41.799 You and I probably have a different we have different Yeah, 487 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:43.079 I know standards, but I felt. 488 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.880 Like they, I mean, we one of them. I'm a 489 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.640 bitch if I can't remember his name. This one guy, 490 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.079 we were shooting at this house and we were waiting 491 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.759 for the other scene to be uh finished shooting before 492 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.799 our scenes start started, and then we and we got 493 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.640 a chance to talk and I just kind of like 494 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:07.799 we kind of had a discussion that was nice and 495 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.640 it made it made the scene go better, like where 496 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.119 it was just stuck us stuck in a room together 497 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.359 and we had to talk. So I think it made 498 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:20.599 us a little more comfortable, him a little more comfortable 499 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:22.440 with me, and me a little more comfortable with him. 500 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:27.119 So it worked out. But that doesn't always happen, especially 501 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.400 with and sometimes they have their girlfriend there and they're 502 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.960 hanging out with them the whole time. 503 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:32.640 It's just so weird. 504 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.480 I'm like, why don't you just do straight porn? Like, 505 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.880 I don't know, I don't get it. I don't understand why. 506 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.680 They don't do get paid lessons straight but. 507 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.079 They work a lot, so it kind of deepens out, 508 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.599 like I don't understand, and it's so confusing and weird 509 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:46.119 to me. I don't know, I don't get it because 510 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:48.839 I don't know whatever whatever. 511 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.680 I'm so upset he has to move the pillow. 512 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.279 Right well, because I'm like, well, I'm looking at the 513 00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:56.960 monitor because I am a diva. I might need to 514 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:58.640 break in a second to like check my hair. 515 00:23:58.480 --> 00:23:58.640 But. 516 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.920 Your hair is beautiful because you're just you guys are 517 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.880 just saying that to make me not stop. 518 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.640 You can stop if you want to wait, we can wait. 519 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.720 We can make a break. 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just beautiful. 548 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.720 It's almost like it was never the moment. I know. 549 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:38.039 It's almost like I'm just a Eurotic piece of shit. 550 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:40.119 Sounds like you were a joy to work with. 551 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:44.440 I actually am. I might have a big mouth, a 552 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.519 little bit of a cunt. But you know what I 553 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:47.960 come in. I do my job. 554 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:49.119 Yeah. 555 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.000 I mean, if you've done fo hundred movies, there must 556 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:54.240 be she's almost four hundred movies. 557 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:57.839 Almost four hundred movies and all studios. There's a lot 558 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.079 of money. Actually, Okay, I know you think about it, I. 559 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:00.920 Know, and it's all gone. 560 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:02.240 All right, we'll give us. 561 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.279 So you were so it sounds like you you like 562 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:07.359 had like a big wave where you were doing really 563 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:09.640 well with studio and maybe like you're not doing as much. 564 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.720 What is going on with you in terms of studio work. 565 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.119 I don't know, you don't. I think here's my thing, Okay. 566 00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.559 I was based on like when you think about it, 567 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.240 are the seeds are coming up? When you look at 568 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.319 the studios and who actually owns them. It's straight people. 569 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.480 Straight people are going to invest and it's time straight people. 570 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.319 It's straight men. By the looks of things. From what 571 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:29.960 I've observed and from what I've seen, I could be 572 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.200 totally wrong, and I can totally admit that, and I'm 573 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.480 I am willing to be taught, but I am just 574 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:36.440 saying for the record what I have observed and what 575 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.880 I know. So it's mostly straight men that run them, 576 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:43.839 including the gay side, and so gay straight men are 577 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.200 gonna fucking invest in what they want to jerk off to. 578 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:48.359 So when it comes to the gay shit, they don't 579 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.400 give a fucking damn and they're not gonna actually invest 580 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.359 in it because they don't fucking see that there's money 581 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:55.680 in it, which I feel like there is, but I 582 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.079 guess not or into them. And then they hire their 583 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.839 straight buddies because I guess they'd brother hang out with 584 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:02.599 a bunch of straight people and not hang out with faggots. 585 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.400 And where am I going with this? I lost my 586 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.559 train thought. Anyway, I'm a victim. 587 00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:14.960 So you've you've soured, I have studio. 588 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.240 I have soured. I've become a little bitter. I'm not 589 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.839 gonna lie and sorry to hear that. It's okay. I 590 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.039 don't care because it pushed me to do other things, 591 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.000 and yeah, like what kind of things. Well, she got 592 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.039 her SAD card because yeah, congratulations, thank you, And that's 593 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:31.400 the thing too and kind of makes me a little 594 00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:33.599 bittersweet too, because I got my SAG card because the 595 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.480 people at next door were the ones that got me 596 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.880 this job for euphoria on HBO, And that's how I 597 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.200 became sack eligible just from that one job. 598 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:45.400 What did you do on it? 599 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.079 It was like this big finale thing. I think for 600 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.440 the second season they didn't end up using it, but 601 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.200 I still like became sack eligible from it and made 602 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:52.480 you know. 603 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.720 It was like a two thousand dollars check. 604 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.200 He was cute. 605 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:54.839 That's very nice. 606 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:56.200 It was cute, it was fun, it was a good time. 607 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.119 Was like the dance at the end. 608 00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.720 No, it was like the supposed to be like this 609 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.079 big dreamy orgy kind of thing. 610 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:04.680 So like that's what sucks too. 611 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.960 It's like there were lots of like really fun sweet 612 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.319 moments in the studios and like you know and whatever. 613 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.279 But then like all of a sudden in twenty twenty three, 614 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.319 like rithe was nuts. That's when it all started. 615 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:17.480 Yeah, what happened in twenty twenty three. 616 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.240 Well, that's when I media blackout. No one was talking 617 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:22.960 to me, no one would message me back. 618 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.480 Oh, it was really bizarre. Did something trigger that? 619 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:28.319 How would I know? I don't know, no one told 620 00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.200 me anything. And then like when I even like this 621 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.279 year when I was at the the gay the ends, 622 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:35.640 when I would kind of like talk with some of 623 00:28:35.680 -->

00:28:37.319 the studio people, and they like they would act as 624 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.759 if they had no idea. 625 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:40.799 I'm like, okay, so like. 626 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.240 Either I don't know, but also I think some of 627 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.039 them have told me that apparently once a more time, 628 00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:47.839 which I kind of knew this already, like once the 629 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.480 time the directors had a little bit more say and 630 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.640 who they could cast, but then that kind of changed. 631 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.200 So like it's a whole it's a whole thing. There's 632 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:55.759 a lot of things. I have no idea what's going 633 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.880 on behind the scenes. But it's stung and it hurt, 634 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.240 especially when like I'm the person and we're like when 635 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.839 I do things, especially when it comes to like I'm 636 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.000 getting paid for it. I really like to like give 637 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.359 all of me and so it kind of becomes who 638 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:14.000 I am, and when you know that's taken away or 639 00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.880 I'm made to feel like I don't know, it hurts. 640 00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.440 Yeah, especially when they don't have a reason and you're like, 641 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.880 what the fuck is why am I being blackballed? Yeah, 642 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.119 like I can relate to that a little bit. 643 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.400 Yeah, so yeah, so yeah, but I mean grateful for 644 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.000 it now. I mean I'm a lot happier now and 645 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.400 things are getting better now. And yeah, but it definitely 646 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.680 it's stung, and it's still kind of stings. 647 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.519 But okay, I wanted to go back to something a 648 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.599 little more fun. So you've won, You've won like a 649 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:48.039 lot of awards. Oh thank you, ex Business and Gabians 650 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:53.319 and Grabby's Fleshbots, fleshpots that award. 651 00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:57.240 They don't make them anywhere, and you know what, And 652 00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:58.720 I grabbed four of them on the way up. 653 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.240 Which one are Which one do you feel? Like means 654 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.200 the most ex Biz expis. 655 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.880 Because my first expiz was in twenty twenty two and 656 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:10.799 I like made that really crazy speech to all the 657 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.559 straight people, like went nuts over because I was on 658 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:16.119 the stage. Oh my god, it was nuts. So like 659 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:17.720 it was my first time being nominated for x BIZ 660 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.480 and so obviously I went I didn't think I was 661 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.799 gonna win because like it was like Cade Maddox and 662 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.559 like what was the award? It was Performer the Year Wow. 663 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.920 And at that time too, it was only a game. 664 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.079 Well no, not anymore. 665 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:30.440 So. 666 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.839 That was the last year where they only had the 667 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:35.279 two gate categories. It was I think it was Best 668 00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.160 Gay Director. No, it was Best Gay Director, sorry, Best 669 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.680 Gate Director and Best uh Performer. 670 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:42.079 Of the Year. 671 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.759 Yeah, okay, so it was only two and I was 672 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.799 one of the two, and I was shocked because, like, 673 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.680 you know, like they had Devin Franco and is that 674 00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:50.000 his name? 675 00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:50.599 It is it Devon? 676 00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.519 Want to make sure. So I was pissed drunk, as 677 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.400 I do as those award shows, like this time was 678 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:58.359 really drunk because I didn't yeah anyway, it doesn't matter. 679 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.359 So I was blackout drunk, and then I found out 680 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.279 that I won, and I was saying with my best 681 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:05.440 friend her stage ings Alia Donovan, I love her to death. 682 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.640 Apparently I looked at her in horror, and then I 683 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.640 went up stage and gave a big, giant, long, two minute, 684 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.440 fucking drunk speech saying like who rigged this for me? 685 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:13.960 I'm gonna go kill myself? Blah blah blah. 686 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.000 Think it's which they wore by. 687 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:21.440 And very very drunk, very yeah, very me and with sunglasses. 688 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:23.799 It was great. 689 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.759 It was very exciting and fun. I couldn't believe it. 690 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.319 I remember after remember they were towards the end of 691 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.160 the show, we went to the abbey, and I remember 692 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.599 like kind of like having consciousness a little bit, but 693 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:35.559 like I held onto that little gold envelope that they 694 00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.319 give you the whole night because I was scared that 695 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.319 it wasn't true. That's why I held onto it, like 696 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:41.000 I don't you know. 697 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.200 But that one was really nice. 698 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:44.799 And the following year that's when they ended up adding 699 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.720 more gay awards,

like whatever. That's why it's a little 700 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:50.960 bit more special at least for me, because that's when 701 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:51.799 it was like a little. 702 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:52.279 Bit more exclusive. 703 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.480 It's like when like Beyonce won like the Country Music 704 00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.599 Award and now they added like two of them instead 705 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.400 of like just the one. Yes, people are jealous and racist. 706 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.519 Sure, Yes, are there any scenes in the past, studio 707 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.000 or otherwise that like really stick at you as like wow, 708 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.599 I really love doing this, like you're seeing partner you loved, 709 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.000 or it was just a really great day. 710 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.680 There were a lot there were. There were also times 711 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.559 too where like I would be like midpen and I'm like, 712 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.799 oh god, I want to I want to die midpen 713 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.279 just midpen, just doggy, just that's mid penetration for the moms. 714 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.519 I mean, that's that JJ night one was really fun. 715 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.119 That JJ knight meum was fun and sexy in a 716 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.599 good time, or like I remember, like I don't know 717 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:42.119 if disruptive is still a thing. I don't know what 718 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.039 I've been so like, yeah, I've been so out of it, 719 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.000 so hor I don't even know what's going on how 720 00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.119 I think works anymore because I feel like also, like 721 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.680 here's a here's a consolidating short. 722 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.559 They pay less and they've worked, they hire you less. 723 00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:58.839 That's that's the general. 724 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.559 That's even the then to shut it down, I know, 725 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:02.359 But but. 726 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:09.519 They pump out so much shitty content now the studio 727 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.319 sorry studios, Yeah, but you're going down. 728 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.839 That's so confusing to me because it's like, wouldn't you 729 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.960 want to invest in Like, don't you want to sell 730 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.839 good cars? Daddy? Like you know what I mean? Like 731 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:19.759 I feel like a Matilda. 732 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.400 They're all afraid of falling behind as far as not 733 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.960 giving the consumer enough new scenes. So they all like 734 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.519 when I started, even they shot one scene in a day, 735 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.000 there was no this scene. Then oh we got to 736 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.200 finish this one by two o'clock because we got another 737 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.599 couple of guys in here. We got to film them after. 738 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.160 Well, are you saying that like the heyday of like 739 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.240 studio porn being this big production is just behind us, 740 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.079 Like features, nobody's. 741 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.599 Doing that anymore. They don't. They didn't know because the 742 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.960 one that I did, It's a Ride or Die, that 743 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.079 was like a much bigger budget. They used everybody the 744 00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:59.359 prison one. 745 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.799 That I got said I wasn't in that. Yeah, I'm 746 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:02.160 sure you. 747 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.279 I almost wasn't. Very I almost wasn't. 748 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.679 But I I'm a very jealous and competitive girl. 749 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.239 That was a large budget. That was like, I mean, 750 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.440 guys on the crew were like, yeah, we've never worked 751 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.840 with this kind of budget before. And then I don't 752 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.119 think it paid up. I won the best it won everything. 753 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.719 It won awards I won, but maybe it didn't have 754 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:25.519 a lot of revenue. 755 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.639 They got Best Director, but it didn't pay off financially. 756 00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:29.519 Gotcha? Ok? 757 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.119 I think that that was kind of the end of 758 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.320 doing something like that. That was I think it was 759 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:36.760 a test. 760 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.679 But why fuck over the models? Like why not like 761 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.199 be like all right, let's see it, like maybe we 762 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.280 can like budget this better, or let's see we can 763 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:46.960 be smarter with our money so we can get more 764 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.480 of a return, Like why be so like throwing the towel. 765 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.400 And well, let me add about let me ask you this, 766 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:54.599 like what how is it like? 767 00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:56.800 For example, I just did my first dudo scene in 768 00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.719 a while where it was literally just a hotel scene 769 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.559 and we were there for three hours. I got paid 770 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.079 not a lot, but it was decent and I was 771 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.679 like it was a fifty not bad for like a 772 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.239 three hour afternoon and like you know what I mean 773 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.480 like this, I was not mad at it. I didn't 774 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.639 have to memorize lines. I wasn't sweating. 775 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.920 I was here. Was it for Randy Blue, which I 776

00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.000 didn't even know was a thing. 777 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.280 That's shocking. They have been resurrected from the. 778 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.559 Dead, Well the director, it was like a hockey crux 779 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:28.639 for like Austin. 780 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:32.440 Well, I swear to God like everybody. And we talked 781 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.360 a lot about people's first experiences with porn and Randy 782 00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.840 Blue is one of the first studios. 783 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:40.400 Yeah, a long time ago. 784 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.079 A lot of people have this like nostalgic feeling for it, 785 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.880 I think, and like remember those scenes being so hot 786 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.440 because it was maybe the first gay porn they'd ever 787 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:55.480 seen in video. Maybe really that wasn't like vintage, you know. 788 00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.559 Right, who, I'm confused, whatever, I'm I'm just a baby. 789 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.079 I think I'm just a baby baby with a lot 790 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:04.679 of opinions. 791 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.360 Remember, I think I don't have enough experience anymore with 792 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.760 studios to know how they're doing. I know we've talked 793 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.239 about some that do like the content houses, they're so 794 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.000 they're kind of gross, you know what i mean. 795 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:19.800 Like trying to do that with me. 796 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.599 I'm like, I'm not selling my brand that I would 797 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.840 rather die. I would rather just I mean. 798 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:29.440 It also just goes to show you that the state 799 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.360 of the industry has just been it keeps changing. So 800 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.719 like I was in the like my heyday was in 801 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.480 the last days of DVD, sounds like your heyday was 802 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.719 in the last days of like these big studio productions 803 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.000 that were like streaming, and you apparently just worked with 804 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:43.320 a lot. 805 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.920 Of straight people who were shitty to work they were 806 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:46.800 to work with. 807 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.039 I'm just, I'm just. I'm just. 808 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:49.679 I'm just a girl with a lot of feelings. 809 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.880 Yes, yeah, Well, how is it doing your own content? 810 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.440 Do you do only fans and stuff? How's that going? 811 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.280 It's it's good. 812 00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:57.920 It's been good. 813 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:00.920 I can't wait to be done sometimes, but it's been good. 814 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.480 Are you feeling like you're nearing the end of your

815 00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:04.760 trajectory in this industry? 816 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.280 I would love to I'm not, Oh my god, not 817 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:08.320 to be like, oh my god. I hope I'm not 818 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:09.800 sound like such a negative bitch and no one wants 819 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.719 to work with me because I I do. I do 820 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:12.320 a good job. 821 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:13.159 I go to work. 822 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.159 I like, you know, I do my thing. 823 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.159 But like I am definitely ready for a new chapter. 824 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.880 Yeah fuckingly yeah yeah. 825 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:22.360 I mean you've been doing it since you said twenty 826 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.480 eighteen concern. Yeah. 827 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.760 Yeah, so you're doing wait so twenty eighteen? Oh yeah 828 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.239 wait so no, no, no, okay, So you have your 829 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:34.920 sage after card. Oh yeah, and you're doing an improv 830 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.920 show with me next there's Yeah, which is gonna be 831 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:40.960 so fun. Yes, don't be nervous. 832 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:42.639 I'm not nervous. I think it'll be fun. 833 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:43.320 No, I knows. 834 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:44.440 I'm not scared at all. 835 00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:44.960 Good. 836 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.159 No, yeah, I hope the other people aren't scared. 837 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.320 I know one of them, just like I have stage right, 838 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:50.039 like really bad? 839 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.320 Wait, who are the other Who are the other performers? 840 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.320 I have Greg Dixon okay, as I like to call 841 00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:01.440 them Greg to Dixon he always wants to should say 842 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:07.840 that on stage or inked Jimmy. Oh that's what we're 843 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.119 calling an inked Jimmy. 844 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:10.480 Not inked pig. 845 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.679 Does he have a background in stage. 846 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.920 And I mean, like I've I've filmed with him a 847 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.719 few times and I've hung out with him, and I'm like, 848 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.559 he's pretty sharp. I think you can do. And we 849 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.559 also have really good improvisers that can help us out 850 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:26.679 and steer the ship. 851 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.000 And there's only one way to get a background. 852 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:29.239 Babe. 853 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.639 You have to start. You have to start. That's true. 854 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:32.440 That is true. 855 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:33.719 Heart was a good experience. 856 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.679 If you don't, don't start on the stage. 857 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.119 Paid show, yes, hey, if you have that any we're 858 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:40.679 getting paid. 859 00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:42.719 No, people are buying tickets. 860 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.840 Okay, okay, I'll just take the practice. 861 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.280 Yeah, take the practice. The practice. Yeah, I think it's 862 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:50.880 just wait. 863 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.039 Question actually about the show, So I note, wait, how 864 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.519 does it work? Are we all just set partners the 865 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.000 whole time? We so, because I have one guy that's 866 00:38:58.039 --> 00:38:59.599 just messaging me on on Instagram. 867 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.800 Yeah, we're talking about porn without the porn. We're doing 868 00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.000 it at UCB. It will have already been done by 869 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.920 the time this airs, but but I'm sure there will 870 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.960 be a next one. We did plug it in, yeah, 871 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.880 so I know. But then two of the people that 872 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.760 I said that we're going to be in it were 873 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.719 still plugging it to recast ship. We still plug it, 874 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.320 and we mentioned that Michael is in it, so so, 875 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.599 but it's it's like, so there's eight people. There's four 876 00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.760 porn performers and four improvisers paired up, so there's like 877 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.800 eight two people's scenes. But there's also a backlook. If 878 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.840 you're in the cast, you can kind of jump in 879 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.599 and jump out right. I'm kind of like if somebody 880 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.880 like if they mentioned somebody else, you can be like 881 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.960 ring ring talk on the phone and then like or yeah, 882 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:48.440 you can introduce yourself as something in the scene. It's 883 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.880 very silly and fun and stupid, and hardly any of 884 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.559 the scenes have anything to do about porn. 885 00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:55.400 Porn. 886 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:59.199 It sounds great. I'm just excited that what's your name, Rachel, 887 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.320 Rachel Bloom. Oh my god, that was so cool. 888 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:04.960 Yeah, I know she did the first one. She's great. 889 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.039 I just want to be here. I just want to 890 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:07.840 She was crazy expert. 891 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.880 I'm going to be Amanda Bynes from Easy Friend. 892 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.000 You can't plan, you can't plan them. 893 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:14.920 I don't want to know. I'm not about planning. I 894 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:16.320 just I just want to be her. I just want 895 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.320 to be her fun little gay side kick. That's

all 896 00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:18.639 I want. 897 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.480 I remember being at the grabby Is where your mom 898 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:25.159 came with you. 899 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.199 What was that I bought her dress too, I bought 900 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:29.719 her a dress. 901 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.840 What was that experience like to have your mom there? 902 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:33.800 It was great she's come to that when she came 903 00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:34.199 to one of. 904 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.880 The ex business as well, did you did you win? 905 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:37.079 No? 906 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.800 I wish I wanted the I want of the Grabby's. 907 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.679 Thank god she was there. Well, it was also about 908 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.920 fucking time the Grabbys fucking gave me something. Same with 909 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.400 the Gay Ends. They didn't give me anything for it 910 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:49.079 forever either. I was always listening to a certain someone 911 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.440 I'm not gonna name. Well it's because. 912 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.159 I don't know, but anyway, but your mom win an award, seen. 913 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.039 Me win a gray Yeah, that was great. 914 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.519 And they and the whole day they I don't know 915 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.840 who was on stage, but they like had her stand 916 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.679 and everybody they were like, if you're a men family member, 917 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.239 it was it was she she yeah, yeah, they were 918 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:18.599 like whose family members? Of who was here there? 919 00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:18.920 I think? 920 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.119 And they stood up and everybody like stood up. 921 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.239 Hold on important question, though, what award did you win 922 00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:27.559 when she was there? Do you remember favorite butt? 923 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:33.599 Well? I would like to thank my mom. 924 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:34.519 No, I wouldn't know. 925 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.480 Well, you know, I'm just thank her. I don't think 926 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.920 she would. Funny, My Italian American mom could not be 927 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.679 more proud. She loves That's great, she loves You're like, 928 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:44.000 I got my butt from my mom. 929 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:44.800 Who's right there? 930 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.760 Thank your fault. I mean, that's amazing she did this. 931 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.960 It is a magnificent But have you always had it? 932 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:51.320 Yes? 933 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:52.000 Wow? 934 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.760 How do you feel about being type cast as a bottom? 935 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:57.719 I don't care. 936 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.239 I just want money, right, dude, Like, but you are 937

00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.239 tapping as much as bottoming. 938 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.000 Or I think it depends on the person. 939 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.800 Right, do you identify as a bottom? Like the noun 940 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:12.320 like everything? 941 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.719 Okay, I'm every woman, I'm kidding his pan, Yes, No, 942 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:17.239 I'm kidding. 943 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:22.760 No, I'm I want. I wanted to bring up you. 944 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:28.239 Are you like to do looks? Looks you like to 945 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:33.079 dress up? Like especially for award shows? Where does that 946 00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:37.320 come from? I mean, like, actually, I have decided when 947 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:41.000 I go out with with Michael, I want him to 948 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.239 come over her so I can see what he's wearing 949 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:43.719 and then just. 950 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.400 Obvious smart basically sunglasses. 951 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:48.679 Well, I see you out. 952 00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:51.800 I'm trying to not do that anymore. I'm trying to 953 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.079 be more of a a glinda. 954 00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:55.440 Wait what is that about? 955 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.960 Tell me about sunglasses out in the nightclub on you? 956 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.079 What do you mean you didn't know? 957 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.440 This is my journey, This is doesn't here. I don't 958 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:05.400 know where or why it started. I think I just 959 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.440 did it once to be funny, and then I just 960 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.440 kept doing it, and then it kind of became like 961 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.119 a weird safety thing or like kind of like I 962 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:14.800 don't know, like me put on my sunglasses just means 963 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:18.079 like people can see me, but I really can't see 964 00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.079 them as much, so then I feel safe. 965 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:21.639 It's weird, I don't know. 966 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.519 And if you're drunk, it's the eyes that give I know, well, 967 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:25.280 then I can kind of like. 968 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.440 Look around to be a little like fucked up and 969 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.000 like no one really knows. I mean they know you're 970 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:29.800 wearing sunglasses, but. 971 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:36.320 Like do you know because I think, well that someone 972 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.320 is drunk, that's fine. 973 00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.159 No, I see it the way you do. 974 00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:42.159 I think sunglasses are a great way to be able 975 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.360 to people watch in a way that makes you feel 976 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.599 like you're not being you're not. 977 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:48.559 It's a safety it's a partition. 978 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:51.519 Partitions safety blankets. 979 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:52.920 For sure. 980 00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.360 Yeah, but I'm trying not to do that anymore because 981 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:56.760 I'm just I don't know, I think I need to 982 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:58.280 just trying to be I don't know, just a little 983 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.599 bit more of an authentic a nice No, not authentic, 984 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.159 because me doing what I was doing sunglass wasn't it 985 00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.079 just like unauthentic. But I think having more of a 986 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.639 more of a presence, right, more of a sweet a 987 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:12.119 sweet girl of the people. 988 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.000 I think it s no, but I think you're on 989 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.639 the right track to maybe being able to have a 990 00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.360 conversation and a little be a little more connected when 991 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.599 you're out. When you're having that instead of with sunglasses 992 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:24.119 on and they're not. 993 00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:25.760 Wearing people will so come up to me. 994 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:31.159 I know. Yeah, yeah, I think your evolution is great. 995 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:31.679 Thank you. 996 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.320 I have loved Yeah, you've and you've made your mark 997 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.800 for sure, Like I mean, thank you the Michael Boston 998 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:39.239 of it all. 999 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.400 Oh, stop you guys. What's next? 1000 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:43.960 Yeah? 1001 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:45.639 Yeah, tell us what's next? Like what are you what 1002 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:47.880 are you excited about for the remainder of twenty twenty five? 1003 00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.599 Well, right now, I'm working with I've been going to 1004 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.920 a friend, my friend Jeff McLean, I've been working with 1005 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:59.159 him on my seeing voice since twenty twenty one, or 1006 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.599 we're doing some more. 1007 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.719 Hoping to record some stuff an album. It'll be fun. Yeah, 1008 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:06.280 are you a singer? 1009 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.519 I like to sing. I'm getting more comfortable with it 1010 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.280 and figuring out how my voice works. 1011 00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:13.639 And shit like that. But it's exciting. 1012 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.119 It'll be fun. And I mean, obviously I wouldn't look 1013 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:18.599 to anything that sounds I wouldn't want to lose anything 1014 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.960 that sounds shit, so it'd have to be amazing. But 1015 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.519 just things like that. And then we're doing background stuff 1016 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.440 and I have friends who are writing parts for me 1017

00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.119 and shit, and hopefully some things will change and I'm 1018 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:37.159 working towards those things and being open and yeah, open minded, 1019 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.159 open hearted, and open legged. That is what I'm doing 1020 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:42.199 for the rest of twenty twenty five. 1021 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:43.280 Lovely. 1022 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:44.920 I can't wait to see what you do. 1023 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.840 Yes, thank you, and we'll see you out about in 1024 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.760 or out of sunglasses. Yes. I love that you come 1025 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.559 to all the parties. Thank you, You're welcome. 1026 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:52.880 Oh my god. 1027 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:52.960 No. 1028 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.480 I actually just got like accosted bite someone yesterday at 1029 00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:56.840 the gym and they were like, why ain't coming to 1030 00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.920 Hot Dog anywhere. I'm like, I'm like, well, the less 1031 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:00.280 time I went, I was black out drunk. I feel 1032 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:01.960 like I got carried out with my friends. Oh no, 1033 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:10.199 probably wasn't you can stone cold sober? Those stairs are 1034 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.679 like really, I feel like Alice in Wonderland. I'm like, 1035 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:13.280 where are we going? 1036 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:14.280 Like? This is so crazy? 1037 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:16.679 Has anyone fallen down? 1038 00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:21.119 Probably? I followed over one hundred years old. 1039 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:23.280 Nobody has hurt. 1040 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:25.960 My leg fell off. 1041 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:27.760 It's not quite like black speeches. 1042 00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.440 But it's honey. 1043 00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.519 I will not go down there. I don't think it's 1044 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.519 worth it really. Now, she's just being a I'm being 1045 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.880 a nun now. So I'm like, I couldn't imagine walking downstairs. 1046 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.480 I will never I couldn't imagine, well, not for long, but. 1047 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:50.400 And then a big dick comes along. Oh, follow me 1048 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:50.960 up the rocks? 1049 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.519 Good under a tree? 1050 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.239 Yeah, I think we have to wrap up. 1051 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:02.800 I've been really lovely having you. 1052 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.960 Do you have anything else cool? Do you have anything 1053 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.400 for us? Michael Boston, Not that I could think of. 1054 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.519 I feel like I've already like shared a lot. You've 1055 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:10.000 shared a lot. 1056 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:11.400 You are sharing too much? 1057 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.079 No, never, there's a lot. 1058 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:13.360 I don't know. 1059 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.360 I don't where the line is. I don't know where 1060 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:17.880 it is. I don't know where the line is entertaining 1061 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:19.119 and oversharing, but oh. 1062 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.840 Well, well there we are this podcast. It's it's a big. 1063 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.599 Range fair yeah, yeah, yay, and thank god. 1064 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.000 Sometimes we complain, sometimes we put things on a pedestal. 1065 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:32.760 Right, and then sometimes we ship on a bunch of 1066 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:34.199 people and then hope they don't hear it. 1067 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.800 And either way, sorry for asking, that's how it goes. 1068 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:40.000 It's not your fault. 1069 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.440 I opened my mouth. I asked for this. 1070 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.199 Well, thanks for coming today, Michael Boston. Everybody, if you 1071 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.840 don't know, now you know. Yeah, well that's it for me. 1072 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:54.800 How about you? Okay, I'm Adam Ramsay, sorry for asking. 1073 00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:01.559 Bye by This has been woraity for asking. Be sure 1074 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:07.320 to like, comment and subscribe, and until next time, stay sexy.