บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Guilty Google Search Murder - Winchester, Indiana

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Indiana this week. Here we go. Winchester, Indiana, 72 00:03:47.550 --> 00:03:53.030 like the rifle there. I guess it's within the township 73 00:03:53.069 --> 00:03:55.909 of White River, but it's its own town also. I 74 00:03:55.949 --> 00:03:58.189 hate when they do that. It's very confusing. A lot 75 00:03:58.229 --> 00:03:59.949 of states do that. It happens like in the East 76 00:03:59.990 --> 00:04:03.370 Coast states a lot, the Northeast. So much. This is actually, 77 00:04:03.610 --> 00:04:06.659 it's a hamlet in a township inside of a, it's 78 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.819 like enough already with that shit. This is in Eastern Indiana. 79 00:04:10.539 --> 00:04:13.129 about an hour and a half to Indianapolis, about an 80 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:16.110 hour 15 to Dayton, Ohio, and about two hours and 81 00:04:16.110 --> 00:04:20.949 10 minutes to Columbus, Indiana. Our last Indiana episode, episode 693, 82 00:04:20.949 --> 00:04:24.430 Poison Pudding Problems, which I went a little crazy with 83 00:04:24.449 --> 00:04:27.250 the alliteration, and I don't regret it. That's fine. Poison 84 00:04:27.269 --> 00:04:30.949 Pudding Problems. This is in Randolph County, area code 765. 85 00:04:30.930 --> 00:04:33.949 Population here, 5,016. So decent-sized town inside of another town. 86 00:04:39.930 --> 00:04:43.629 Median household income is almost about $ 20, 000 below the rest 87 00:04:43.670 --> 00:04:47.850 of the country in terms of average. It's $ 51, 985, but 88 00:04:48.829 --> 00:04:51.050 that's not bad when you look at the median home cost. 89 00:04:51.089 --> 00:04:54.360 You go, oh, okay, that fits. Median home cost here, $ 118, 000, 90 00:04:54.240 --> 00:05:00.779 which is from another company. century, those prices. 91 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:06.339 That'd be amazing to get a middle-of-the-road home for $ 120. 92 00:05:05.329 --> 00:05:10.709 $ 118. It's got nicknames that are wild. The first one 93 00:05:10.750 --> 00:05:14.420 I really don't get, the world's fastest half mile. There's 94 00:05:14.449 --> 00:05:18.060 no racetrack here, but it's Indiana. I get it. Indiana's 95 00:05:18.100 --> 00:05:21.399 into the racing, but it's not here. There's no racetrack 96 00:05:21.420 --> 00:05:24.399 that I can find anyway. The other nicknames are even stupider. 97 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:32.110 One is Dub C, and then in parentheses, WC, Winchester. No. Nope. 98 00:05:32.470 --> 00:05:34.129 That's not what I think of for that. You shouldn't 99 00:05:34.170 --> 00:05:34.670 do that. Nope. 100 00:05:35.350 --> 00:05:38.509 That's the water closet we've established. 101 00:05:39.209 --> 00:05:42.550 Yes, exactly. Oh, we're in water closet Indiana. Then the 102 00:05:42.629 --> 00:05:47.550 other one is even grosser. Sugar cream pie capital. They 103 00:05:47.589 --> 00:05:52.220 have the word cream pie capital in their fucking town motto. 104 00:05:52.860 --> 00:05:53.620 Sugary one. 105 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:54.399 Sugary cream pie. 106 00:05:54.459 --> 00:05:55.680 Or the cream pie and your sugar. 107 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.220 What have you been eating, sir? Gross. Gross. 108 00:05:59.170 --> 00:06:01.269 Is that just sugar or cream pie for you? 109 00:06:01.290 --> 00:06:04.529 How about that? A little bit of history of this town. Man, 110 00:06:05.009 --> 00:06:08.470 it was laid out in 1818 as the county seat, 111 00:06:09.129 --> 00:06:13.050 was the county seat of Randolph County. Five early settlers 112 00:06:13.110 --> 00:06:16.910 donated land for the purpose of the town, and they're 113 00:06:16.930 --> 00:06:19.410 pretty sure it was named for Winchester, Virginia, because I 114 00:06:19.430 --> 00:06:21.850 think one of the people was from there. So that's 115 00:06:21.870 --> 00:06:26.949 what they do. It became actually notable in the mid-1800s 116 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:31.939 because Randolph County– was a major spot for the Underground Railroad. 117 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:33.160 Wow. 118 00:06:33.220 --> 00:06:35.800 Yes. Now, Indiana is famous for being one of the 119 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.389 Klan-heaviest cities or states in the country. They had a huge, 120 00:06:40.449 --> 00:06:44.069 I mean, they controlled all their politics and police forces. Oh, 121 00:06:44.089 --> 00:06:47.949 in the 20s and early 1900s. But here, it was 122 00:06:47.990 --> 00:06:50.569 big in the Underground Railroad, big in the abolition movement 123 00:06:50.870 --> 00:06:53.709 before the Civil War. So that's pretty cool. Then they 124 00:06:53.750 --> 00:06:56.870 had oil and natural gas and other resources they found 125 00:06:56.889 --> 00:07:01.519 in about the late 1800s. And Winchester transformed from a 126 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:06.259 farming community into an industrial town after that. Yeah. Factories and, 127 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:06.899 you know. 128 00:07:06.939 --> 00:07:08.519 Black's not so bad, is it, Indiana? 129 00:07:08.540 --> 00:07:08.819 That's right. 130 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:09.430 When it comes to oil. 131 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:11.639 When it comes from the ground, it's Texas tea right there. 132 00:07:13.339 --> 00:07:18.259 So all of this enabled the glassmaking industry to thrive here. 133 00:07:18.300 --> 00:07:20.439 So a lot of glassmaking here. That was the big 134 00:07:20.500 --> 00:07:22.970 deal here. It was the glassmaking, and they had the 135 00:07:23.029 --> 00:07:25.029 fuel from the natural gas and oil to be able 136 00:07:25.050 --> 00:07:27.250 to burn those furnaces because you've got to get a 137 00:07:27.269 --> 00:07:31.649 pretty high temperature to burn and melt glass. Tornadoes, they've 138 00:07:31.670 --> 00:07:35.240 had a couple of those. In 2024, which very recently, 139 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:43.259 a quarter-mile-wide EF3 tornado hit Westchester. Sounds big. Hit Winchester? 140 00:07:43.379 --> 00:07:44.639 Or Winchester. What did I call it? Yeah. 141 00:07:45.449 --> 00:07:45.910 Westchester. 142

00:07:45.949 --> 00:07:50.069 Westchester. I live near Westchester. I apologize. Severe damage was 143 00:07:50.110 --> 00:07:54.230 dealt to the Goodwill, the Goodwill store. So we're fine still. 144 00:07:54.990 --> 00:07:59.269 That dumpster outside spread people's garbage clothes they don't want everywhere. 145 00:07:59.569 --> 00:08:03.089 There it is. Severe damage to somebody else's trash. 146 00:08:03.110 --> 00:08:08.740 That's it. The lodge at Summers Point and a strip mall. 147 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.120 It's just a strip mall wiped out, so the subway 148 00:08:12.139 --> 00:08:16.500 is gone. The Freedom Life Church and the Taco Bell 149 00:08:16.540 --> 00:08:19.740 were flattened. They flattened the Taco Bell. That's tough. Where 150 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:21.500 are we going to get diarrhea now? This is bad. 151 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.269 The good news is it didn't break anything that wasn't 152 00:08:26.310 --> 00:08:26.810 already there. 153 00:08:26.970 --> 00:08:29.209 No, it didn't break one shell. They were already cracked 154 00:08:29.250 --> 00:08:32.509 on the bottom. They were already fucked. 38 were injured 155 00:08:32.549 --> 00:08:35.350 and three were critically injured, and one of the three 156 00:08:35.429 --> 00:08:40.039 died weeks later. And then June 2024, three months later, 157 00:08:40.100 --> 00:08:44.299 the remainder of the strip mall was demolished. And subsequently, 158 00:08:44.740 --> 00:08:47.570 I think they rebuilt something into a Wendy's, and then 159 00:08:47.610 --> 00:08:51.149 Taco Bell underwent repairs and reopened. So there you go. 160 00:08:51.190 --> 00:08:54.929 It's back. Reviews of this town. Here's five stars. I 161 00:08:54.970 --> 00:08:57.820 think Winchester is an excellent place to raise a family 162 00:08:57.860 --> 00:09:01.480 and a perfect place to settle down and put roots. Yeah. 163 00:09:01.580 --> 00:09:04.139 It's a very cozy small town that feels like home. 164 00:09:04.700 --> 00:09:07.460 This place will always be my home. I grew up here. 165 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:14.320 I have no interest in the outside world whatsoever. Wow. 166 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.950 Winchester will always have a special place in my heart. 167 00:09:18.149 --> 00:09:20.990 Here's three stars. And this is the perfect review for 168 00:09:21.009 --> 00:09:23.870 three stars. It's your average town in the middle of 169 00:09:23.909 --> 00:09:28.769 a cornfield. Easy to miss. Everyone knows just about everyone there. 170 00:09:29.090 --> 00:09:31.720 Not sure if that's a really nice thing or terrifying. 171 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.360 Middle of the road. This is a three-star review. People 172 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:36.559 take notes. This is how it works. 173 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.600 Great place to take an F3 to the chest. 174 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:41.000 Not bad. Well, at least the Taco Bell takes one 175 00:09:41.019 --> 00:09:44.240 to the chest. What's nice about this little

town I 176 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.759 think most can agree on is that you know it 177 00:09:47.830 --> 00:09:49.809 like the back of your hand, and it has a 178 00:09:49.850 --> 00:09:52.669 little diner that's known for miles around. Oh, well, then 179 00:09:52.710 --> 00:09:55.370 everything's fine. It's not much, but it's home. 180 00:09:56.090 --> 00:09:57.370 It's not much, but it's ours. 181 00:09:57.389 --> 00:10:01.659 That's something. Three stars. Winchester. has a cute little hometown 182 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.279 feel to it I grew up in Winchester that's probably 183 00:10:04.299 --> 00:10:06.080 why it feels like a hometown to you because it's 184 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.929 yours yeah because it's your hometown it's your hometown but 185 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:12.490 recently it has fallen victim to a lot of major 186 00:10:12.549 --> 00:10:14.909 drug use and I would definitely like to see that 187 00:10:15.029 --> 00:10:18.429 change as I have lost loved ones to this horrible 188 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:23.029 disease And then finally, two stars. It's not a good 189 00:10:23.090 --> 00:10:27.250 place to raise a family. It traps. I guess traps 190 00:10:27.289 --> 00:10:30.629 you in the town. Yeah. I suppose. You're stuck in that. Yeah. 191 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:32.960 Cyclical Winchester lifestyle. 192 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.340 Yeah. Things to do. Two things. One makes sense and 193 00:10:37.379 --> 00:10:39.679 the other one makes none. So that'll be fine. Nothing. 194 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.470 No sense. First is the Westchester. See, I almost did 195 00:10:42.490 --> 00:10:47.879 it again. Winchester Main Street Festival. Yeah. Normal festival. It 196 00:10:47.940 --> 00:10:51.429 says it's an attempt to embrace a Mardi Gras theme 197 00:10:51.570 --> 00:10:54.860 and to infuse Hoosier life with Southern flair. 198 00:10:55.870 --> 00:10:57.250 Oh, yeah, I forgot they're Hoosiers. 199 00:10:57.289 --> 00:10:57.769 Yeah. 200 00:10:57.809 --> 00:10:58.769 What does that mean? 201 00:10:58.789 --> 00:11:00.289 I have no goddamn idea. 202 00:11:01.289 --> 00:11:03.029 Wear an I and a U on your chest at 203 00:11:03.070 --> 00:11:03.610 all times. 204 00:11:03.649 --> 00:11:07.000 That's it. Even when people abuse kids, you love them. 205 00:11:07.649 --> 00:11:09.419 As long as they wear a red sweater. You can 206 00:11:09.460 --> 00:11:10.879 say whatever you want to these fucking kids. 207 00:11:10.899 --> 00:11:12.000 Whatever you want. 208 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:16.740 So they have normal things. Parades, shit like that. Family 209 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.980 night with fireworks. Carnival blowout. Normal shit. Then is the 210 00:11:21.019 --> 00:11:24.610 one that doesn't make sense. The Hawaiian Steel Guitar Festival. 211 00:11:26.460 --> 00:11:30.919 In eastern Indiana. No idea why they chose this. I 212 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:31.240 don't know. 213 00:11:31.500 --> 00:11:35.850 The manufacturing plant must be somewhere nearby because they're nice guitars. 214 00:11:35.889 --> 00:11:36.549 I've got one right there. 215 00:11:36.570 --> 00:11:38.309 No, they're very nice, but it says, I don't know 216 00:11:38.330 --> 00:11:41.789 why they would have a Hawaiian guitar festival in eastern Indiana. 217 00:11:42.389 --> 00:11:43.500 It's a strange place. 218 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.480 It's a brand. I get it, but they're doing Hawaiian music. 219 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:49.440 That's the, you know what I mean? Oh, they're doing 220 00:11:49.460 --> 00:11:54.019 Hawaiian music too? Winchester, Indiana's Hawaiian Steel Guitar Festival brings 221 00:11:54.059 --> 00:11:59.440 together musicians from across generations and cultures. I can't stop laughing. Yeah? 222 00:11:59.460 --> 00:12:01.000 I'm not hearing anything about Hawaii yet. 223 00:12:01.179 --> 00:12:05.690 Welcoming native Hawaiian artists alongside performers from across the continental 224 00:12:05.710 --> 00:12:07.690 United States. What do you think I, I wrote this down. 225 00:12:07.710 --> 00:12:08.789 What does that mean? Do you think I didn't fucking 226 00:12:08.809 --> 00:12:14.799 know what it was? Performers include the Williams twins, 96-year-old 227 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.840 twin sisters who've been singing and playing guitar together at 228 00:12:17.860 --> 00:12:21.659 the festival for nearly 50 years. 96? Wow. They can 229 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.950 play guitar at 96? That's amazing. I can barely turn. 230 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.570 Wrenches my I have so much arthritis and I've never 231 00:12:29.669 --> 00:12:31.409 played guitar a day in my life. 232 00:12:31.429 --> 00:12:33.110 Well maybe that's the key maybe it keeps you loose 233 00:12:33.129 --> 00:12:35.809 maybe so limber I gotta learn this shit I was 234 00:12:35.830 --> 00:12:37.710 gonna say you're not playing that fucking thing it's sitting 235 00:12:37.730 --> 00:12:38.870 there but you're not doing anything with. 236 00:12:38.789 --> 00:12:41.610 It I tried so hard and I quit already. 237 00:12:41.789 --> 00:12:44.840 Alan Akata a member of the Hawaiian Music Hall of 238 00:12:44.929 --> 00:12:48.000 Fame and one of the foremost masters of the Hawaiian 239 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.919 steel guitar 22 year old Miley Lyman one of the 240 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:54.539 brightest rising stars in Hawaiian music I mean it's a 241 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:59.080 Hawaiian festival not just the guitar Wow. It's a whole festival, 242 00:12:59.220 --> 00:13:02.889 which is crazy. Anyway, that said, let's talk about some murder. 243 00:13:03.529 --> 00:13:04.350 That is shocking. 244 00:13:04.370 --> 00:13:06.990 I don't know why. I was like, just let me 245 00:13:07.029 --> 00:13:11.120 tell you. I got a question. I feel bad now, 246 00:13:11.129 --> 00:13:13.379 but I'm like, if you let me read one sentence, 247 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.889 all of this will be explained. That's so funny. 248 00:13:16.929

--> 00:13:18.049 So it's just the music. 249 00:13:18.090 --> 00:13:20.169 That's interesting. I can totally see where you're coming from. 250 00:13:20.190 --> 00:13:21.570 You're like, but I have one of the guitars. It's 251 00:13:21.590 --> 00:13:22.429 a guitar. I have one. 252 00:13:22.590 --> 00:13:23.309 It's right there. 253 00:13:24.509 --> 00:13:26.690 All right. Murder in this town. Let's go back 2018. 254 00:13:26.669 --> 00:13:28.320 Not very far. 255 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:29.940 No real reason. 256 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:31.639 We're getting eight years. Not bad. 257 00:13:32.389 --> 00:13:33.850 Those ladies were still in their 90s. 258 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.179 They're fucking, yeah, still. Well, almost. Almost. They were pushing. So, 259 00:13:39.500 --> 00:13:43.659 let's talk about a guy here. David L. Brumley. L-E-Y, 260 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.480 by the way. He's born February 13th, 1957 here. So, 261 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.159 getting up there in age here. He's 61 years old. 262 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.539 He's the son of Robert and Dolores Brumley. He has 263 00:13:56.580 --> 00:14:00.179 a brother named Tim. He graduated from Winchester High School 264 00:14:00.210 --> 00:14:05.379 in 1976. He is Mr. Winchester still lives there, lives 265 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.139 on West South Street in Winchester. Been there all the time. 266 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:13.539 He works for Omega Enterprises, whatever the hell that is, 267 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:17.490 but that's what he works for. Now, in the neighborhood, 268 00:14:17.570 --> 00:14:19.990 he knows everybody. He's from this town. It's a small town. 269 00:14:20.129 --> 00:14:22.669 If you grew up here and you're 61, you pretty 270 00:14:22.690 --> 00:14:23.450 much know everybody. 271 00:14:23.470 --> 00:14:24.129 It's a long time. 272 00:14:24.269 --> 00:14:27.500 Yeah, you have to know everybody. So he knows all 273 00:14:27.580 --> 00:14:29.759 sorts of people, has all sorts of friends that are like, 274 00:14:30.029 --> 00:14:32.870 described as childhood friends all the time. So he still 275 00:14:32.909 --> 00:14:35.929 knows them. Seems like a lot of people are born 276 00:14:35.970 --> 00:14:37.929 here and they die here. You know what I mean? 277 00:14:38.049 --> 00:14:40.460 They're happy about it. So good for them, I guess. 278 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:44.120 Or at least content. Yeah, there you go. At least content. 279 00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:47.980 He has a friend of his across the street from him, actually. Well, 280 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.419 right kind of near right across the street. A buddy 281 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.379 of his he's known for his whole life. So that's 282 00:14:52.419 --> 00:14:54.929 kind of fun. And his buddy kind of helps him 283 00:14:55.009 --> 00:14:57.070 out with stuff a little bit, as we'll talk about. 284 00:14:57.110 --> 00:14:59.850 He's got a car. that he's real into, that his 285 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:04.850 buddy helps him out with. This is Monty Joseph Cook, okay? 286 00:15:04.909 --> 00:15:08.809 Monty Cook. He's born September 59, so they went to 287 00:15:08.830 --> 00:15:13.309 high school together. They know each other. Grew up there. 288 00:15:13.350 --> 00:15:18.340 They remained friends as adults always. Now, we'll talk about it, 289 00:15:18.350 --> 00:15:20.769 but Monty wasn't around for about 15 years. 290 00:15:21.690 --> 00:15:22.039 Where'd he go? 291 00:15:23.299 --> 00:15:26.940 He was local pretty much, but not available. Put it 292 00:15:26.980 --> 00:15:30.980 that way. He wasn't available to hang out at the time. 293 00:15:31.500 --> 00:15:34.200 You could see him, but he couldn't really make plans 294 00:15:34.259 --> 00:15:34.669 to see you. 295 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:35.500 From time to time. 296 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.659 Yeah. At very certain times on very certain days, you 297 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:45.409 could see him. A couple of hours. Very specific hours. So, yeah, 298 00:15:45.450 --> 00:15:50.169 they grow up and Monty would help. David Brumley with 299 00:15:50.269 --> 00:15:54.960 projects around the home sometimes, and not even for money. 300 00:15:55.139 --> 00:15:57.000 They just help each other out. He liked doing stuff, 301 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.480 and he liked turning a wrench or fixing something and 302 00:15:59.500 --> 00:16:02.840 doing shit. He also hung out with Brumley in the garage. 303 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.779 Brumley's got a little house with a detached garage where 304 00:16:06.820 --> 00:16:12.580 he's constantly working on and polishing and making better his 305 00:16:12.779 --> 00:16:19.649 prized show car, which is a 2006 Mustang. Now, there's 306 00:16:19.669 --> 00:16:23.899 some debate over whether it's 2004 or 2006, but I'm 307 00:16:23.899 --> 00:16:27.320 99% sure it's 2006, and it's the same body style from, like, 308 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:28.879 01 to 08, so it really doesn't matter. 309 00:16:30.620 --> 00:16:33.940 It's not really a classic, but it's his prized possession, 310 00:16:33.980 --> 00:16:34.610 and that's okay. 311 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.549 Well, yeah, he's got it jacked up, too. It's a GT. It's, like, 312 00:16:39.129 --> 00:16:42.970 maroon with the black stripes on the hood, and it's 313 00:16:42.990 --> 00:16:45.450 got the big black scoop on the hood and all 314 00:16:45.490 --> 00:16:47.759 that shit. Like, he's got it all. Okay. 315 00:16:47.779 --> 00:16:50.519 Yeah, I think they stopped making the Cobra by then. 316 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:54.379 I believe so, yeah. It also has the chrome pins 317 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.860 in the front of the hood. It's like making it 318 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:00.279 look real race. Like what you would do in Grand 319 00:17:00.299 --> 00:17:02.129 Theft Auto if you had tons and tons of money 320 00:17:02.169 --> 00:17:03.450 and you get a car and go to the shop 321 00:17:03.490 --> 00:17:05.170

there and hook it up. Like that's pretty much what 322 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:05.680 he did to it. 323 00:17:06.089 --> 00:17:07.930 The Mustang's a fine car, whatever. 324 00:17:08.130 --> 00:17:12.589 Yeah, I used to have one. They're fine. So, yeah, 325 00:17:12.609 --> 00:17:13.730 a lot of people hate them. Yeah. 326 00:17:14.650 --> 00:17:16.819 Yeah, it's just the only car that Ford ever built 327 00:17:16.859 --> 00:17:19.799 that's really fast, except for the Shelby shit. 328 00:17:19.819 --> 00:17:22.359 And the GT, of course. That's a whole different issue. 329 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:23.500 That's a Mustang, though. 330 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:27.640 No, the Ford GT. The hell is that? The 500 GT. 331 00:17:27.660 --> 00:17:31.869 The 500 GT. Yeah, yeah. That's a totally different thing, 332 00:17:31.890 --> 00:17:35.609 but that's like a fucking $ 400, 000 car or whatever. So 333 00:17:35.710 --> 00:17:36.289 if you want that. 334 00:17:36.349 --> 00:17:39.299 It's on a Mustang platform, isn't it? 335 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:43.460 I don't know about the engine, but it's a down low, lower. 336 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:44.920 It doesn't look anything like a Mustang. 337 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:47.799 Oh, are you talking about the, I know what you're 338 00:17:47.819 --> 00:17:49.980 talking about. That's the Shelby Cobra, right? 339 00:17:50.099 --> 00:17:53.359 No. Are we talking about it? They're newer ones. Is 340 00:17:53.660 --> 00:17:55.309 it the 500 GT, is it called? What the hell 341 00:17:55.329 --> 00:17:56.829 is it called? I knew a guy who had one. 342 00:17:57.069 --> 00:18:01.289 They're insanely expensive. Yeah, they're really like crazy expensive Fords. Like, 343 00:18:01.349 --> 00:18:01.789 it's wild. 344 00:18:01.809 --> 00:18:04.170 Yeah, I thought that was, I thought that that's the 345 00:18:04.210 --> 00:18:05.410 Mustang built. It doesn't matter. 346 00:18:05.430 --> 00:18:07.440 It doesn't matter. It's really irrelevant to the story. I'm 347 00:18:07.460 --> 00:18:10.140 going to. Much like the Hawaiian guitars, really irrelevant to 348 00:18:10.220 --> 00:18:14.720 the story. Yes. So, now, Monty, by the way, has 349 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:18.440 a job. He delivers campers and RVs. That's his job. 350 00:18:19.099 --> 00:18:21.380 A lot of RV stuff is made around here, as 351 00:18:21.420 --> 00:18:25.869 we'll talk about. So, the Mustang is this guy's prized 352 00:18:26.130 --> 00:18:31.529 fucking possession. Okay? And he takes it to car shows. And, 353 00:18:31.549 --> 00:18:36.960 I mean, this is David Brumley's prized possession here. Interesting. Yep, 354 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.349 he's got license plate RSP657, and here we go. Now, 355 00:18:41.369 --> 00:18:44.529 a little background on Monty, his buddy across the street. 356 00:18:44.970 --> 00:18:47.769 They hung out a lot in their younger days. They 357 00:18:47.789 --> 00:18:51.539 were real close. But in the late 2000s, in the 358 00:18:51.579 --> 00:18:56.059 late aughts and 2010s, they weren't hanging out because Monty 359 00:18:56.099 --> 00:18:58.759 was a little busy, and let's find out why. In 360 00:18:58.819 --> 00:19:04.440 July of 2003... At, what is this, July, I believe, 5th, 361 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:09.960 at 2.23 a.m., state and federal agents began an investigation 362 00:19:10.500 --> 00:19:14.460 of a fire that caused $ 7. 5 million in damages to 363 00:19:14.500 --> 00:19:15.039 a factory. 364 00:19:15.809 --> 00:19:16.609 Oh, a factory. 365 00:19:19.309 --> 00:19:23.190 It's a 35,000 square foot factory burned down. Huge. 366 00:19:23.309 --> 00:19:24.789 And everything inside. 367 00:19:24.869 --> 00:19:28.630 Everything in it, gone. Wow. So they said, quote, by 368 00:19:28.789 --> 00:19:30.809 seven hours into the call, we had a lot of 369 00:19:30.890 --> 00:19:35.559 resources here to use, saying that this was the first– 370 00:19:35.619 --> 00:19:37.599 the fire chief said this was the first time since 371 00:19:37.619 --> 00:19:42.099 he's been in fire that the Federal Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, 372 00:19:42.140 --> 00:19:45.430 and Firearms and Explosives were to be involved in an investigation. 373 00:19:45.450 --> 00:19:47.230 He goes, those guys showed up. We were like, what? 374 00:19:47.269 --> 00:19:48.329 What are you guys doing here? 375 00:19:48.890 --> 00:19:49.569 ATF. 376 00:19:49.589 --> 00:19:54.480 ATF. is there the president of the company that it's 377 00:19:54.579 --> 00:19:57.339 all this warehouse or factory had one company it's called 378 00:19:57.380 --> 00:20:01.950 Mastercraft they make they make shit for boats and RVs 379 00:20:01.990 --> 00:20:03.910 they make furniture for boats and RVs that's where it 380 00:20:03.950 --> 00:20:08.309 comes from here so they said the Cliff Reynolds, who's 381 00:20:08.329 --> 00:20:10.849 the president of that company, said he's confident the business 382 00:20:10.869 --> 00:20:13.829 will return someday to full production when they obviously have 383 00:20:13.849 --> 00:20:17.130 a place to put it. He said, our main focus 384 00:20:17.190 --> 00:20:19.759 is to take care of the customers and our employees. 385 00:20:20.410 --> 00:20:24.559 So they make upholstered furniture and mattresses for the RV industry, 386 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:26.420 and I guess boats too, from what I understand. 387 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:27.920 Oh, the boats are insane that they build. 388 00:20:28.299 --> 00:20:32.059 I bet. So they say it was destroyed by fire. Now, 389 00:20:32.099 --> 00:20:34.730 this was originally a smaller building, and I found in 390 00:20:34.750 --> 00:20:38.200 the newspapers where they added on every couple of years, 391 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.680 they build another part and build another section. They've grown 392 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.809 and grown and grown for like 30, 40 years in 393 00:20:42.829 --> 00:20:43.329 this area. 394 00:20:43.380 --> 00:20:44.180 Now it's ashes. 395

00:20:44.509 --> 00:20:46.240 Yeah, it's a pretty nice story, you know, of a 396 00:20:46.430 --> 00:20:50.529 local business growing like that. So employees had not worked 397 00:20:50.690 --> 00:20:53.869 in the buildings the last three days because they had 398 00:20:53.890 --> 00:20:57.369 a three-day weekend for the 4th of July holiday. So 399 00:20:57.410 --> 00:20:59.150 they went off for a three-day weekend, turned out to 400 00:20:59.190 --> 00:21:03.690 be a lot longer weekend than that, obviously. Now, what 401 00:21:03.750 --> 00:21:07.819 ended up happening there There's 300 people working at the plant. 402 00:21:07.980 --> 00:21:10.960 They don't have a job at the moment here. They 403 00:21:11.019 --> 00:21:13.700 ended up suspecting old Monty Cook of doing this. 404 00:21:14.539 --> 00:21:15.640 Why would they suspect him? 405 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:20.680 He's got reasons. Cook gives statements to the Indiana police 406 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:26.059 investigator and an agent of the ATF. They said a 407 00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:30.539 statement against his own interests, but not a confession. So 408 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:32.660 we're all about to push him over the edge here. 409 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:33.579 Yeah, I was there. 410 00:21:33.900 --> 00:21:36.240 What about it? Well, saying he knew who did it 411 00:21:36.619 --> 00:21:39.170 or he might have been there at the time, but 412 00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:42.329 he didn't light the fire. Why would he say that? 413 00:21:42.529 --> 00:21:44.109 I may know the guy who did it because I 414 00:21:44.150 --> 00:21:46.009 may have may have been watching him do it. But 415 00:21:46.650 --> 00:21:48.990 one me. Yeah. All right. What a dumb fucking thing 416 00:21:49.029 --> 00:21:54.109 to say, dude. You imagine that? Idiot. So the investigators 417 00:21:54.210 --> 00:21:57.710 focus on Cook after learning that he had left threatening 418 00:21:57.789 --> 00:22:01.750 messages on the Mastercraft telephone answering machine over the course 419 00:22:01.789 --> 00:22:07.660 of several weeks. He's been like threatening the RV upholstery factory. 420 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.859 What the hell are you doing? It makes more sense 421 00:22:10.339 --> 00:22:13.690 when you understand that his wife or estranged wife at 422 00:22:13.730 --> 00:22:16.809 this point, Kelly, was an employee at the plant the 423 00:22:16.849 --> 00:22:20.190 time that the calls were made. That's why. Okay. So 424 00:22:20.210 --> 00:22:23.630 he doesn't like her. We'll find out. Definitely not. He's 425 00:22:23.650 --> 00:22:27.420 a little jealous and possessive, I would say. He has 426 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:29.039 like a daughter too and all this stuff. It's like, 427 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:34.220 calm down, bro. Mastercraft reported the incidents to police and 428 00:22:34.299 --> 00:22:37.509 had addressed the concern by adding extra security. And the 429 00:22:37.569 --> 00:22:42.190 extra security didn't

matter much. One of the prosecutors here 430 00:22:42.250 --> 00:22:45.470 said it had escalated in volatility. We believe one of 431 00:22:45.509 --> 00:22:47.789 his motives over committing the crime is that he was 432 00:22:48.029 --> 00:22:51.450 angry over a relationship he thought his wife was having 433 00:22:51.490 --> 00:22:55.160 at Mastercraft. He thought his wife was fucking one of 434 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.400 the other employees. So he said, I will burn this 435 00:22:57.460 --> 00:23:00.019 motherfucker to the ground. To the ground. 436 00:23:00.059 --> 00:23:02.859 Didn't even have rock solid evidence. 437 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:03.059 No. 438 00:23:03.940 --> 00:23:05.960 Under suspicion, he burnt it down. 439 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.140 That's the crazy part. He went in there looking for 440 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:11.539 evidence of it. That's what he was looking for. 441 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:12.859 Oh, my God. 442 00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:17.039 That's what's crazy. Seven and a half million dollars in damages. Now, 443 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:24.309 they arrest him. The plant's in Shipshawana, I guess it's called, 444 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.829 or Shipshawana, either one. He remains in on a two 445 00:23:28.869 --> 00:23:31.690 hundred and fifty thousand dollar bond here. They said that's 446 00:23:31.710 --> 00:23:35.430 higher than normal because of the extent of it. And 447 00:23:35.710 --> 00:23:37.970 also the fact that he didn't get his wife. So 448 00:23:38.009 --> 00:23:39.849 they're worried he might go after his wife now, too. 449 00:23:40.549 --> 00:23:42.950 So they said that he broke into the factory. It's 450 00:23:42.990 --> 00:23:46.259 about 40 miles east of South Bend to find information 451 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:51.349 on his estranged wife. He's originally not booked on arson charges, 452 00:23:51.410 --> 00:23:54.069 but booked on charges of failure to appear in court 453 00:23:54.130 --> 00:23:58.130 the week before for an invasion of privacy case involving, 454 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:02.089 guess who, his wife. And also there was two arrest 455 00:24:02.130 --> 00:24:04.630 warrants already out for him when he did that for 456 00:24:04.670 --> 00:24:07.710 invasion of privacy and violating a protective order against who? 457 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:11.180 His wife. Yeah. So this guy's dangerous. 458 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.160 Why don't you grab some turtle wax and head on 459 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:15.369 over to your buddy's house and. 460 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:17.690 Yeah, this is what you do. Have a beer, bitch 461 00:24:17.730 --> 00:24:19.990 about your wife, and then go home and fucking jerk 462 00:24:20.069 --> 00:24:21.490 off and go to bed. That's what you do. 463 00:24:21.509 --> 00:24:23.009 Shine the car about it. 464 00:24:23.109 --> 00:24:27.910 That's what you do, but not this guy. It's crazy. 465 00:24:28.009 --> 00:24:31.130 So he ends up admitting it. Yeah. He has to 466 00:24:31.190 --> 00:24:34.940 admit it eventually here. He broke into the craft or 467 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:40.190 to Mastercraft. He rummaged through drawers and offices... And then 468 00:24:40.349 --> 00:24:43.819 he admitted that he lit a match to some fabric 469 00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:46.259 and left the building. So he's like, I mean, I 470 00:24:46.299 --> 00:24:50.269 didn't make sure it burned down. I threw it and said, 471 00:24:50.329 --> 00:24:51.789 let the fates land where they may. 472 00:24:53.650 --> 00:24:56.000 Go with God. Jesus, take the wheel. 473 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.299 That's right. The equivalent of putting a child on a 474 00:25:00.380 --> 00:25:02.980 raft and pushing him down the river. Like, I don't know. 475 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.990 He could be fine or he could be eaten by wolves. 476 00:25:05.049 --> 00:25:06.369 I'm not sure. Either one could happen. 477 00:25:06.650 --> 00:25:07.450 We'll see. 478 00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:11.630 Technically, either outcome is possible. He might be raised by 479 00:25:11.670 --> 00:25:13.569 the king or eaten by wolves. We're not sure. 480 00:25:14.650 --> 00:25:16.579 That's a wild thing to do. 481 00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:20.910 It's fucking crazy. He said that he thought his wife 482 00:25:20.970 --> 00:25:23.789 was sleeping with another employee at Mastercraft and that he 483 00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:26.069 found photos of the two of them in one of 484 00:25:26.109 --> 00:25:28.970 the desk drawers. That's what pissed him off. He found 485 00:25:28.990 --> 00:25:31.019 it at the desk. So then after that, he said 486 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.259 he was looking for pay stubs for some reason. He 487 00:25:33.299 --> 00:25:35.440 wanted to know more about this guy, probably his address 488 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:36.160 and things like that. 489 00:25:36.740 --> 00:25:40.579 Yeah, but that's also usually where the company discloses the 490 00:25:40.660 --> 00:25:41.359 sexual relationships. 491 00:25:41.460 --> 00:25:46.019 Absolutely. It's right there. It's under the FICA, I believe, right? 492 00:25:46.809 --> 00:25:50.279 The line under that I think they used for that one. 493 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.460 Yeah, Cox taken and then it shows. 494 00:25:52.660 --> 00:25:58.059 Yeah, Cox taken. Yeah. So he said that he set 495 00:25:58.099 --> 00:26:01.059 the fire to get back at them, those two employees. 496 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:02.019 Oh, because it's their fault. 497 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.000 So burn the whole building down. I will burn this 498 00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.259 motherfucker to the ground. How dare you? 499 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.960 They hired and facilitated her being able to take this. 500 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:16.009 They're CFs, Cox facilitators, and he's not taking it. So 501 00:26:16.210 --> 00:26:18.309 after the fire, he went to a friend's house in 502 00:26:18.349 --> 00:26:22.710 Millersburg so he could watch the fire on television. It's

503 00:26:22.769 --> 00:26:25.579 a huge blaze. And he was like, well, there's constant 504 00:26:25.619 --> 00:26:29.720 local coverage of this. Let's watch this. So he's in 505 00:26:29.779 --> 00:26:34.349 jail in March of 2004. That was July 2003. And 506 00:26:34.369 --> 00:26:38.930 then it gets worse somehow. What? I don't know how 507 00:26:38.950 --> 00:26:40.650 you could go to jail and make it worse, but 508 00:26:40.690 --> 00:26:45.319 he did. Yeah. Here's the headline from the newspaper. Kidnapping 509 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.000 added to list of Cook's charges. 510 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:48.460 Who did he take? 511 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.940 Well, he's not who he took. It's who he wanted 512 00:26:50.980 --> 00:26:54.710 to take. He's already charged with arson finally now. Now 513 00:26:54.750 --> 00:26:57.410 he's accused of plotting to kidnap two women in an 514 00:26:57.470 --> 00:27:01.549 attempt to get bond money. Two? Two. He's going to 515 00:27:01.910 --> 00:27:05.130 kidnap people to get ransom money so he can use 516 00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:08.319 it to spring himself on bond. Think about that. Have 517 00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:09.539 you ever heard of that one before? No. 518 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.339 That's crazy. 519 00:27:13.059 --> 00:27:13.720 You have too much time. 520 00:27:13.740 --> 00:27:16.279 Talk about robbing yourself to pay nobody. 521 00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:20.369 Pay nobody. Yeah, robbing Peter to fucking shit on Paul's chest. 522 00:27:20.450 --> 00:27:21.210 It makes no sense. 523 00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:24.490 Robbing Peter to do Paul's time. 524 00:27:24.670 --> 00:27:25.589 It's so weird. 525 00:27:25.690 --> 00:27:26.650 You're not getting out. 526 00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:28.710 So he's got to appear in front of a judge 527 00:27:28.869 --> 00:27:32.450 on two charges of conspiracy to commit kidnapping. That's not great. 528 00:27:32.990 --> 00:27:36.089 He's accused of writing to someone he met in jail. 529 00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:38.390 Somebody came into the jail while he was in there waiting. 530 00:27:38.930 --> 00:27:41.490 This person was in there for like 30 days for 531 00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:43.750 a minor, they called it in the newspaper, quote, a 532 00:27:43.809 --> 00:27:49.430 minor felony. You know, a small, a tiny felony. Yeah, apparently. 533 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.059 So this guy was getting out in 30 days. So 534 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.599 Monty was like, hey, do me a favor. And he's 535 00:27:56.660 --> 00:27:59.900 writing to this guy asking him to kidnap the two women, 536 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.420 get the ransom and then bail him out with it. 537 00:28:02.539 --> 00:28:05.019 Because that's a foolproof plan. That'll work. 538 00:28:06.170 --> 00:28:09.430 You already can't vote. So do this for me. 539 00:28:09.470 --> 00:28:10.349 How about this part? 540 00:28:10.390 --> 00:28:10.609 Yeah. 541 00:28:11.289 --> 00:28:15.039 This guy, by the way, the minor felon, he gets 542 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.200 these letters asking them to commit a major felony. And 543 00:28:18.220 --> 00:28:20.480 he's like, I have a level of felon that I'm 544 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.920 comfortable with. And it's not this high up. It's a 545 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.009 much lower level felon than this. Yeah. He took the 546 00:28:26.069 --> 00:28:30.339 letters to his probation officer and told on the on Monty. Wow. 547 00:28:30.380 --> 00:28:32.079 He's like, we're not that good of friends. The fuck 548 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:38.039 are we doing here? So rather than that close. So 549 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:44.740 rather than just busting him for that right there, the sheriff, 550 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.160 the probation officer gave it to a sheriff's detective, Jeff Campos. 551 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.920 This Campos had said, don't go ahead and respond to him. 552 00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:56.609 Tell him, no problem, let's set up a meeting, and 553 00:28:56.619 --> 00:28:59.009 we're going to set up a meeting. So they set 554 00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:03.650 up a meeting with undercover officers at the jail. This 555 00:29:03.730 --> 00:29:07.029 guy said, come back to the jail and bring your 556 00:29:07.349 --> 00:29:10.170 kidnapper friend with you, and we'll just meet at visiting day, 557 00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:14.190 and we'll set this up. Okay, this is all really brilliant. 558 00:29:15.230 --> 00:29:17.910 One officer posed as a bail bondsman, and the other 559 00:29:17.990 --> 00:29:20.990 officer posed as the man's cousin. That's how they did it. 560 00:29:21.420 --> 00:29:23.220 I'm going to commit a felony, so I brought my 561 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:29.440 cousin with me and my bail bondsman. Yeah. So Monty 562 00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:32.650 Cook proposed kidnapping the women. One is the wife of 563 00:29:32.690 --> 00:29:35.369 a Mastercraft employee, and the other one is the wife 564 00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:39.970 of an old friend. Just kidnapping random people for ransom. 565 00:29:40.430 --> 00:29:44.069 ranging from $ 70, 000 to hundreds of thousands of dollars, depending 566 00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:47.549 on his mood, what he was talking about at the time. 567 00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:51.859 They said, quote, we were notified by a private individual 568 00:29:51.890 --> 00:29:55.559 who'd been receiving some fairly disturbing correspondence from Mr. Cook. 569 00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.930 This person brought the letters in. We followed up with 570 00:29:58.970 --> 00:30:01.829 an undercover officer coming to the jail and meeting to 571 00:30:01.869 --> 00:30:05.009 discuss with Mr. Cook the plans he detailed in the letters. 572 00:30:06.029 --> 00:30:09.750 So the officer posed as his cousin and said that, yeah, 573 00:30:09.789 --> 00:30:12.309 you know, we'll talk about it. And they said that 574 00:30:12.369 --> 00:30:15.470 Cook willingly talked to the undercover officer who got the 575

00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:21.200 evidence on a recording. Unbelievable. Idiot. Cook wanted the would-be 576 00:30:21.259 --> 00:30:25.220 kidnappers to abduct these women from their homes, pull them 577 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.500 from their beds, and then hold them for money, which is... crazy. 578 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.019 They lived in two different cities, too, these women. They 579 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:35.539 were not like they were in the same house. They said, 580 00:30:35.579 --> 00:30:38.299 grab that one and then this one. The two women 581 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.380 were acquainted with Cook, and then the prosecutor here said, 582 00:30:42.420 --> 00:30:45.650 I think he believed the individuals may have sums of 583 00:30:45.750 --> 00:30:50.250 money enough to accomplish his plan. Cook told the undercover 584 00:30:50.309 --> 00:30:53.069 instructions on getting the ransom money and told him not 585 00:30:53.089 --> 00:30:55.430 to hurt the victims. This is just for money. Get 586 00:30:55.470 --> 00:30:58.259 me out of here. I'm He said, we believe he 587 00:30:58.299 --> 00:31:00.700 was trying to acquire enough money to post bond to 588 00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:03.880 be released and probably flee the area, you would assume. 589 00:31:04.609 --> 00:31:08.849 What an unbelievable plot. What a dumb fucking plot. That's, again, 590 00:31:08.869 --> 00:31:10.869 a guy with way too much time on his hands 591 00:31:10.890 --> 00:31:11.490 sitting in jail. 592 00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:17.839 And way too few brain cells, evidently, because that's not 593 00:31:17.859 --> 00:31:18.420 going to work. 594 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.779 Way too few IQ points and too much time. Too 595 00:31:21.819 --> 00:31:23.960 much time, too little smarts, and you're going to end 596 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.890 up with some dumb shit. So he's scheduled to stand 597 00:31:26.930 --> 00:31:29.990 trial on the arson and burglary charges, which could result 598 00:31:30.029 --> 00:31:33.390 in prison sentences up to 20 years and eight years, respectively. 599 00:31:33.569 --> 00:31:36.950 And now these new charges could carry up to 50 600 00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:38.470 more years in prison if convicted. 601 00:31:39.890 --> 00:31:42.990 I was just going to ask you, this is charges. 602 00:31:43.730 --> 00:31:46.730 What he's doing is like, yeah, you can get this 603 00:31:46.829 --> 00:31:49.049 guy is dangerous. He should not be on the street. 604 00:31:49.089 --> 00:31:51.130 He should be doing 78 years. 605 00:31:51.230 --> 00:31:53.289 This is what he comes up with as a solution 606 00:31:53.430 --> 00:31:55.089 to his problem that he got himself into. 607 00:31:55.819 --> 00:31:58.789 To do a huge problem that cost $ 7. 5 million. 608 00:31:58.809 --> 00:32:01.549 Because he wanted to stalk his wife more? That's crazy. 609 00:32:02.309 --> 00:32:02.609 Right. 610 00:32:02.849 --> 00:32:05.569 Because he knew she wasn't even there. He wasn't even there. 611 00:32:05.970 --> 00:32:09.430 It's fucking incredible. So, yeah, he wanted evidence. He thought 612 00:32:09.450 --> 00:32:11.269 this was the perfect time to break into the plant 613 00:32:11.289 --> 00:32:14.019 because no one's there. Yeah. Break into the factory. So 614 00:32:14.059 --> 00:32:17.619 the prosecutor said he's incredibly foolish trying to plan a 615 00:32:17.660 --> 00:32:21.230 conspiracy from a jail cell. You're not a mob boss. 616 00:32:21.529 --> 00:32:23.259 This is not going to work. You don't have people 617 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:24.339 that are working for you. 618 00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:26.619 You don't have organized criminals. No. 619 00:32:26.700 --> 00:32:29.039 He said, obviously, we knew he was dangerous because of 620 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.759 the arson. But now he suggested doing something even more serious. 621 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.200 And then he also said, I know he really thought 622 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.480 he was going to get away with it. He really 623 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.880 thought this would work. Monty's a moron, I think it's 624 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.269 safe to say. He's a fucking moron. So in court, 625 00:32:46.529 --> 00:32:50.130 he's got– I mean he's on recording. talking to two cops, 626 00:32:50.170 --> 00:32:54.210 giving them specific and really detailed kidnapping instructions. 627 00:32:55.809 --> 00:32:58.210 Take two women and spring them from the joint. 628 00:32:58.690 --> 00:33:00.819 So he's got to plead guilty. I mean, otherwise he's 629 00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:03.670 going to jail forever. He's never getting out. So he 630 00:33:03.730 --> 00:33:06.660 pleads guilty to a Class B felony of arson, a 631 00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:10.339 Class C felony of burglary, then in the separate case 632 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.339 pleaded guilty to two counts of Class B felony conspiracy 633 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:18.359 to commit criminal confinement, which I guess is a little under-kidnapping. Yeah, 634 00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:20.799 that's the plea. Yeah. It's kidnapping without the stank on 635 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:26.339 it there. Yeah. Yeah. So during sentencing here, the prosecutor said, 636 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:30.230 I want a 39 year sentence. Don't care if you play. 637 00:33:30.250 --> 00:33:33.349 He said that the destruction of property, destruction of lives 638 00:33:33.450 --> 00:33:36.589 and the destruction of an industry in our town. This 639 00:33:36.609 --> 00:33:38.710 is like a terrorist act. Basically, they're saying you put 640 00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:42.039 350 people out of work. In a small town. Like, 641 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:43.140 that's crazy. Yeah. 642 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.920 He's about to make this place a tourist destination for 643 00:33:46.579 --> 00:33:47.359 bikers only. 644 00:33:47.539 --> 00:33:53.230 Yeah. Absolutely. Now, think about this. This is 2004. He 645 00:33:53.329 --> 00:33:57.329 shows photos in

court to prosecutors, big blown up side-by-side 646 00:33:57.410 --> 00:34:01.670 photos of the burned out factory and buildings that have 647 00:34:01.690 --> 00:34:06.130 been destroyed in Baghdad during the Iraq War. Oh, shit. 648 00:34:06.230 --> 00:34:09.659 They look exactly the same to me. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. 649 00:34:09.820 --> 00:34:12.460 Surprised he didn't break out the World Trade Center picks. 650 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.840 A pile of rubble. You see a difference? He's a terrorist. 651 00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:19.860 Someone's paying for 9-11 and I propose it's Monty Cook. 652 00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:22.199 That's what I'm saying right now. If I had to say. 653 00:34:22.860 --> 00:34:25.070 The tower's at least left a cross. I don't see 654 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:25.769 a cross here. 655 00:34:25.809 --> 00:34:26.769 God doesn't love us. 656 00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:27.789 We're all fucked. 657 00:34:27.869 --> 00:34:32.610 We're all fucked. Sorry. So the factory owner, Clifton Reynolds, 658 00:34:32.630 --> 00:34:37.889 this fucking part owner of Mastercraft, um, He said he 659 00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:41.269 had extensive loss of property and equipment, loss to his employees, 660 00:34:41.329 --> 00:34:45.409 loss to his suppliers, vendors, everybody. If you have an 661 00:34:45.489 --> 00:34:47.320 order waiting, it's not going to be ready for a while. 662 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.000 Put it that way. He noted also that his personal loss. 663 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:53.860 He said the building was his father's dream, and he 664 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.699 took over for his father. And he's built it up, 665 00:34:56.780 --> 00:34:58.699 and he said he was proud of his employee base 666 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:04.150 and wanted to settle in Shipsawana or Shipsawana, whatever it is. Now, 667 00:35:04.170 --> 00:35:07.590 the factory had to move to South Poplar Street in LaGrange. 668 00:35:07.610 --> 00:35:10.010 They had to find another place to be because they'd 669 00:35:10.030 --> 00:35:15.530 have to rebuild a 35,000-square-foot factory. So the prosecution says, 670 00:35:15.710 --> 00:35:20.170 let's do 39 years without any suspended and order him 671 00:35:20.230 --> 00:35:24.260 to repay damages as restitution, $ 7. 5 million in damages. 672 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:25.780 That's good enough. 673 00:35:25.820 --> 00:35:30.019 Yeah, for a guy who delivers RVs. That'll work. Yeah. 674 00:35:30.590 --> 00:35:33.050 He said to set the record straight, 39 years in 675 00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:37.130 jail is warranted considering all he has done. His defense 676 00:35:37.190 --> 00:35:39.489 attorney said, come on. I mean, the guy could be 677 00:35:39.809 --> 00:35:41.989 sure he burned a building down, put a whole industry 678 00:35:42.050 --> 00:35:44.900 out of business, but it was in a fit of passion. 679 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.320 So let's let it roll. 680 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.860 Fault him. He loves real hard. He just loves hard. 681 00:35:50.940 --> 00:35:54.619 And the conspiracy charges that he said, that's how they 682 00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:57.460 were construed. It could be construed as entrapment if you 683 00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:59.590 really think about it. So that shouldn't even be on here. 684 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.219 you know, he pled guilty to it. But let's be realistic. 685 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:04.920 If we really went to court, we could say that 686 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.599 was probably, you know, entrapment. Who knows if that would 687 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:13.090 even stand? And his mental state was compromised. And he 688 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.690 also challenged the amount of damages stressed by the prosecution, 689 00:36:17.170 --> 00:36:19.110 saying that it was less than that. It wasn't seven 690 00:36:19.130 --> 00:36:22.670 and a half million. That's a overblown estimate. And then 691 00:36:22.809 --> 00:36:26.090 also says that he should give him concurrent sentences, not 692 00:36:26.659 --> 00:36:30.980 consecutive sentences before the kidnapping plots and the arson. They 693 00:36:31.019 --> 00:36:33.380 should just all go together rather than laying them out 694 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.380 like that. Monty has to talk. He has to say 695 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:37.460 something during sentencing. 696 00:36:38.139 --> 00:36:39.260 Show your passion, Monty. 697 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.239 He has to sit there. He said that, quote, if 698 00:36:42.340 --> 00:36:47.409 I could change everything, I would. I'm extremely sorry. Apologize 699 00:36:47.449 --> 00:36:50.250 to my family, especially my daughter, for putting them through this. 700 00:36:51.349 --> 00:36:52.050 Unbelievable. 701 00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:56.420 And they say, you, sir, may fuck off. Four years 702 00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.869 at the Indiana Department of Corrections for the burglary. That's 703 00:36:59.889 --> 00:37:04.530 just the burglary. 20 years for arson. Those are concurrent, 704 00:37:04.590 --> 00:37:09.179 so 20 years. And in the conspiracy to commit criminal confinement, 705 00:37:09.219 --> 00:37:12.880 he was ordered to serve an extra 15 years twice, 706 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:18.139 so 30 years altogether for those. So basically they gave 707 00:37:18.219 --> 00:37:21.570 him– when it all adds up. It was 30 years, 708 00:37:21.590 --> 00:37:23.050 but then they broke it. He said, I'll do it 709 00:37:23.849 --> 00:37:26.010 concurrent because he was saying, like, I could lay him out, 710 00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:28.150 but I'm going to do it this way. So basically 711 00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:31.210 it's 35 years is what he got, 20 years and 712 00:37:31.269 --> 00:37:36.130 then 15 years basically. So that's what he's got, 35 years. 713 00:37:36.610 --> 00:37:39.210 The prosecutor said, I think Judge Brown was very fair 714 00:37:39.269 --> 00:37:46.170 considering the destruction. And that's that. Now, the 2018 here 715

00:37:46.210 --> 00:37:48.880 is when he gets out of jail. So he's in 716 00:37:48.889 --> 00:37:51.599 for 15 years. He does half the time, basically. Half 717 00:37:51.619 --> 00:37:55.000 of it, yeah. Gets out, and then that's when he's 718 00:37:55.019 --> 00:37:58.400 hanging out around here helping David Brumley fix up his 719 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.860 Mustang and, you know, hanging out doing housework and delivering 720 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:03.980 RV parts because what else is he going to do? 721 00:38:04.019 --> 00:38:06.400 He just got out of prison for being one of 722 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.739 the worst people in the area. Like, everyone in the area, 723 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.460 he's the guy. Everybody's got to be mad at him. Yeah. 724 00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:13.099 I went to high school with this one guy who 725 00:38:13.139 --> 00:38:15.179 burned down that whole factory. I went to high school 726 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.199 with that guy. Remember him? Like, that's what they're all 727 00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:18.090 talking about. Jerk. 728 00:38:18.409 --> 00:38:19.130 Almost ruined it. 729 00:38:19.349 --> 00:38:25.210 Yeah. October 31st, 2018, David Brumley gets a bank loan. 730 00:38:25.809 --> 00:38:28.949 His furnace broke. Yeah. And that's one of those things 731 00:38:28.989 --> 00:38:34.820 that you need a new furnace. It's October in Indiana. Right. 732 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.079 It's November's tomorrow. You better get cash. 733 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:38.360 Taking out a loan. 734 00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:42.260 Ouch. That's brutal, man. It's brutal. But that's how so 735 00:38:42.300 --> 00:38:45.760 many people live. How many years was that? I remember 736 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.340 sitting in terror of something like that breaking because I 737 00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:52.539 can't fix it. So he gets this $ 5, 000 loan to 738 00:38:52.579 --> 00:38:55.460 fix his furnace from the bank. Then the next day, 739 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.460 he doesn't show up for work. Strange. He's a pretty 740 00:38:58.500 --> 00:39:01.440 dependable guy. The next day, he doesn't show up for 741 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:02.980 work on November 2nd. 742 00:39:03.019 --> 00:39:05.559 This furnace has taken a long time to install. 743 00:39:05.659 --> 00:39:08.500 Wild. So that's a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. He doesn't come 744 00:39:08.539 --> 00:39:13.860 to work. So that's odd. Then Saturday, November 3rd, 2018– 745 00:39:14.349 --> 00:39:17.099 is when they decide, where is he? Somebody calls to 746 00:39:17.139 --> 00:39:19.099 get a welfare check on him. They don't even know 747 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.360 if he's home. So check it out. So it's a 748 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.969 Saturday at about 1 p.m., and officers go to his residence. 749 00:39:26.030 --> 00:39:28.349 I won't give his exact address, but it's West South 750 00:39:28.389 --> 00:39:33.150 Street for a welfare check. When they enter the home, 751 00:39:33.210 --> 00:39:35.300 first of all, they see that the Mustang is not 752 00:39:35.340 --> 00:39:38.659 in the garage. So they're like, okay, maybe he took 753 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.880 the Mustang somewhere. Not like him at all to. 754 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.420 Do this, but three-day ride in a Mustang? 755 00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:47.039 That's expensive. Three-day stag ride he's going for. Then they 756 00:39:47.099 --> 00:39:49.000 open the door to his house because they have to 757 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.179 do a welfare check, too, to make sure because someone 758 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.510 asked for it. And in the entry room of Brumley's home, 759 00:39:54.630 --> 00:39:59.369 they find scraps of black electrical tape and clear packaging tape, 760 00:39:59.489 --> 00:40:03.389 little pieces ripped off, scraps of it everywhere. That's funny. 761 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:06.900 They also find a cardboard box right up there by 762 00:40:06.940 --> 00:40:12.349 the front door. containing a white disposable dust mask, multiple 763 00:40:12.590 --> 00:40:17.030 used zip ties, two belt loops from a pair of 764 00:40:17.050 --> 00:40:21.000 blue jeans, just the loops, one of which had a 765 00:40:21.059 --> 00:40:25.360 zip tie fastened to it tightly. Yeah. These are all 766 00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:28.300 very strange things that they're finding. Then they go into 767 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:28.579 the bedroom. 768 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.440 But it's all the things that, Somebody with a Mustang has. 769 00:40:31.460 --> 00:40:33.119 You got to have a lot of tape and zip ties. 770 00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:34.800 Yeah, you got to have zip ties. Yeah, you got 771 00:40:34.820 --> 00:40:35.239 to have those. 772 00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:36.079 Put it back together. 773 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.199 I don't know why you would zip tie a belt loop. 774 00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:41.460 That doesn't make a lot of sense. Nope, unless you're seatbelt, bro. 775 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:44.760 It's a lot of weird shit. So they go into 776 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:48.579 his bedroom and they find David in there. He's seen 777 00:40:48.619 --> 00:40:50.960 better days. Let's put it that way. He's been here 778 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.639 for three days and it's not good. Oh, shit. His 779 00:40:53.699 --> 00:40:57.099 body is kind of wedged between the bed and the wall, 780 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.929 like in a bad motel room, you know. And his 781 00:41:01.030 --> 00:41:03.969 head is covered by this. They can't even see his face. 782 00:41:03.989 --> 00:41:05.190 They don't even know if it's him at first. His 783 00:41:05.230 --> 00:41:08.170 head is covered by a pillowcase and a black plastic 784 00:41:08.210 --> 00:41:08.869 garbage bag. 785 00:41:09.610 --> 00:41:10.090 Oh, no. 786 00:41:10.469 --> 00:41:13.929 It's horrifying. The pillowcase was secured over his head by 787 00:41:14.050 --> 00:41:17.039 black electrical tape, which was wrapped

around his neck. This 788 00:41:17.099 --> 00:41:18.559 is a nightmare. Fucking nightmare. 789 00:41:18.579 --> 00:41:19.070 The worst. 790 00:41:19.570 --> 00:41:22.789 Then the garbage bag was secured over the pillowcase. He 791 00:41:22.829 --> 00:41:26.150 made sure that David couldn't chew through it or something. Right. 792 00:41:26.530 --> 00:41:29.650 That was secured over the pillowcase by clear packaging tape, 793 00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:31.210 which was wrapped around this face. 794 00:41:32.329 --> 00:41:32.889 Oh, no. 795 00:41:32.989 --> 00:41:36.539 So imagine finding this. This would be a disturbing fucking 796 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.400 thing to find, this poor guy. You don't. 797 00:41:38.929 --> 00:41:41.909 Expect that whoever did that gives a fuck whether this 798 00:41:41.949 --> 00:41:43.070 person lives or dies. 799 00:41:43.309 --> 00:41:45.710 Well, no, they're trying to kill him, obviously. 800 00:41:45.750 --> 00:41:47.750 Yeah, you can't breathe through that. 801 00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:52.139 No, no. He also had electrical tape wrapped around, tightly 802 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.360 around his right wrist, and he was wearing a pair 803 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.039 of blue jeans with two missing belt loops. Yeah. Hey, 804 00:41:59.099 --> 00:42:02.969 look at that. We solved the puzzle. Yep. And an 805 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:07.070 autopsy reveals that he died from asphyxia. due to ligature, 806 00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:10.429 neck compression, and suffocation. So they didn't just suffocate him, 807 00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:13.889 put that on and strangle him out. God damn it. 808 00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:16.550 This is the best line in the whole story that 809 00:42:16.590 --> 00:42:18.840 I read. I don't even know why a reporter would 810 00:42:18.860 --> 00:42:23.579 put this. His death was ruled a homicide. No shit. Really? 811 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.699 You think? Well, I guess if you saw what happened 812 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.039 to the Kung Fu guy, you'd probably think he couldn't 813 00:42:31.059 --> 00:42:33.800 have done that to himself. That made him cum? Shit. Okay, 814 00:42:33.820 --> 00:42:36.829 never mind. I guess he did. 815 00:42:37.429 --> 00:42:41.139 I hate when they fucking... Just say he died of strangulation. 816 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.440 And we're not investigating. Just say accidental death. 817 00:42:44.460 --> 00:42:45.579 The man's mom reads this. 818 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.219 Yeah. Accidental death will work just fine. It's all good. 819 00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.409 I don't need to know all the details. I really don't. 820 00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:54.769 I mean, I want to, but I don't need to 821 00:42:54.829 --> 00:42:55.409 is what I'm saying. 822 00:42:55.530 --> 00:42:56.929 It is funny. I agree. 823 00:42:56.969 --> 00:43:00.170 Exactly. It is good for jokes for 30 years. But 824 00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:03.650 besides that... But his poor mother. Yeah. His mother's got 825 00:43:03.670 --> 00:43:06.610 to be hurt. So his friends and family now, people 826 00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:11.320 that know him reacting, know David Brumley here. Brumley's childhood friend, Sandra, 827 00:43:11.739 --> 00:43:14.800 said of his death that it's on everyone's mind. She said, 828 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.139 I think it's suspicious, but the cops are keeping hush-hush 829 00:43:18.179 --> 00:43:21.090 about it. We don't know what they know. That's when 830 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.150 it first came out. They didn't tell everybody, hey, he 831 00:43:23.170 --> 00:43:24.829 was found with all this weird shit on his head 832 00:43:24.869 --> 00:43:27.030 and everything like that. They just said he was found 833 00:43:27.469 --> 00:43:29.949 dead in his house and we think it's homicide. She 834 00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:32.710 said it was her brother who noticed Brumley was missing 835 00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:34.929 several days of work in a row, and he's the 836 00:43:34.989 --> 00:43:38.400 one who notified the police. She said, my brother called 837 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.860 his brother, and he sent some of his friends down 838 00:43:40.900 --> 00:43:43.960 there to check on him. They called the police. Then 839 00:43:44.019 --> 00:43:46.219 everything got roped off, and no one was allowed in. 840 00:43:47.340 --> 00:43:51.670 They said then everything stopped as far as what we know. Now, publicly, 841 00:43:52.889 --> 00:43:57.559 they said it was– That they wasn't publicly there. They're 842 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.000 really not saying anything about his death or any of 843 00:44:00.019 --> 00:44:02.840 the details. All they're saying is he was found and 844 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.530 they have ruled it a homicide. Yeah. That's it. She 845 00:44:07.570 --> 00:44:10.050 has her own theory of what went on because why not? 846 00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:14.630 They're like finding weird people named Kelly's theory. Let's see. Oh, 847 00:44:14.869 --> 00:44:17.989 Sandra's her name. Sandra Kelly. She said, I know they're 848 00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:21.349 calling it a death investigation, but I believe he got murdered. 849 00:44:21.670 --> 00:44:25.500 But I don't know that for sure. You got it. 850 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:27.420 She also says. 851 00:44:28.099 --> 00:44:31.769 If they say death and investigation, they think that too. 852 00:44:31.789 --> 00:44:34.110 They're pretty sure. And that's why they're looking. They're pretty 853 00:44:34.150 --> 00:44:37.469 fucking sure of it, yeah. If they found him at 854 00:44:37.570 --> 00:44:40.369 the hometown buffet or at the Golden Corral holding his 855 00:44:40.449 --> 00:44:42.429 chest on the ground, they'd go, that's probably a heart attack. 856 00:44:42.469 --> 00:44:45.219 We probably could clear this one up pretty quick. We don't... 857 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.420 Very little investigation. No. So this woman said here that 858 00:44:50.739 --> 00:44:54.289 this death

has left the whole town terrified. But she 859 00:44:54.349 --> 00:44:56.909 thinks if they find the missing car, that'll lead to 860 00:44:56.949 --> 00:44:59.670 the answers. God, she is real good. She is a 861 00:44:59.730 --> 00:45:02.530 detective there, Sandra. Somebody swear this bitch in. 862 00:45:02.550 --> 00:45:03.750 She knows everything. 863 00:45:03.829 --> 00:45:10.019 Yeah. Now, November 2018, this month right now, he's wanted, 864 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:13.000 Monty Cook is wanted for several things, by the way. 865 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.199 There's two arrest warrants issued for him in November by 866 00:45:17.380 --> 00:45:21.400 judges in Randolph County. On November 5th, he was charged 867 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.909 with theft, a level six felony. carrying a standard one 868 00:45:24.949 --> 00:45:28.449 year jail term. Four days later, he was charged with 869 00:45:28.530 --> 00:45:32.349 two counts of arson, more arson. He likes to burn shit. 870 00:45:32.389 --> 00:45:35.889 This guy. Absolutely. Yep. Um, the more serious of the 871 00:45:35.969 --> 00:45:39.139 arson charges is a level four felony with a standard 872 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.840 six year sentence. In that case, he's accused of all 873 00:45:42.860 --> 00:45:45.579 the way back on July 25th, a few months ago, 874 00:45:46.019 --> 00:45:48.199 setting fire to a house. He was in the middle 875 00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:53.070 of buying on a contract. So I can't imagine why 876 00:45:53.139 --> 00:45:54.940 the guy wouldn't give him the price he wanted or something, 877 00:45:54.980 --> 00:45:57.460 trying to negotiate. That's a hell of a way to 878 00:45:57.820 --> 00:45:59.980 back out of an agreement. Either I get it for 879 00:46:00.019 --> 00:46:03.679 my price or I burn it to the ground. Either 880 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:05.530 I get my wife or I burn it to the ground. 881 00:46:05.630 --> 00:46:06.869 That's his answer for everything. 882 00:46:07.550 --> 00:46:09.869 He was sentenced to 35, only did 15, so he's 883 00:46:09.929 --> 00:46:11.869 technically on the hook for those other 20 if. 884 00:46:11.750 --> 00:46:14.500 He fucks up, right? Exactly. Yes, that's why they want 885 00:46:14.739 --> 00:46:17.300 to find him, but they can't find him now. That's 886 00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:20.179 the thing. He's charged with this, and warrants are out, 887 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:21.719 but they don't have him in possession. They don't know 888 00:46:21.739 --> 00:46:24.659 where the hell he is. So that's pretty crazy. That 889 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.469 was in the 600 block of South High Street, by 890 00:46:27.510 --> 00:46:31.010 the way, the house he burned down. He was charged 891 00:46:31.030 --> 00:46:34.130 with auto theft on November 2nd, resulting in a third 892 00:46:34.269 --> 00:46:39.409 active arrest warrant for him. He's described as 5'9, 200 pounds, 893 00:46:39.550 --> 00:46:43.550 brown hair, green eyes, wearing glasses, and, quote, recently seen 894 00:46:43.690 --> 00:46:48.989 limping on his right side. Oh, okay. December 8th, the 895 00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:52.320 police finally released, for a whole month, they say nothing 896 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:56.420 publicly about David Brumley's death. Nothing. Then on December 8th, 897 00:46:56.579 --> 00:47:00.260 they finally identify the person of interest they've been talking 898 00:47:00.300 --> 00:47:02.320 about for the last month. We have a person of interest, 899 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.969 but no suspects. They say this person of interest is 900 00:47:06.110 --> 00:47:09.610 Monty Cook, and he's got a shitload of felony warrants 901 00:47:09.710 --> 00:47:12.329 out for both theft and arson. So if you see him, 902 00:47:12.369 --> 00:47:14.909 don't approach him, but definitely give a little ringy-ding to 903 00:47:14.949 --> 00:47:18.000 the old police force there. Now, what evidence do they 904 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.760 have on him? Do they have any evidence that he 905 00:47:19.780 --> 00:47:21.780 did this, or do they just think he's a bad guy? 906 00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:24.840 Right away, you'd go, well, he didn't burn the house down. 907 00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:26.340 That's a sign that it might not be him. 908 00:47:26.619 --> 00:47:29.139 There's a dead person. That's not his thing, usually. 909 00:47:29.300 --> 00:47:33.869 Not so far. Then they find fingerprints on these scraps 910 00:47:33.929 --> 00:47:38.389 of tape that are identified as Monty Cook's. But then again... 911 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:40.409 I mean, that's bad that that's a tape around him, 912 00:47:40.429 --> 00:47:42.530 but he's there all the time working. Maybe he held 913 00:47:42.590 --> 00:47:46.309 a roll of tape. But then they found partial DNA 914 00:47:46.389 --> 00:47:50.570 profiles on the dust mask that was determined to be 915 00:47:50.670 --> 00:47:54.210 consistent with both David Brumley's DNA and a very strong 916 00:47:54.269 --> 00:47:58.150 match for Monty Cook's DNA. Uh-oh. That's not good. But again, 917 00:47:58.190 --> 00:48:00.710 he's there all the time. Maybe they were sanding something 918 00:48:00.849 --> 00:48:02.289 out and he put a mask on. 919 00:48:02.289 --> 00:48:03.650 Sharing a mask. 920 00:48:03.710 --> 00:48:06.889 Exactly. Who knows how many masks they had? Who knows? Yeah. 921 00:48:07.670 --> 00:48:11.380 As part of this, though, police obtained the internet browsing 922 00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:15.340 history associated with two Google email addresses that Monty Cook 923 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.420 is known to use. And that's where we get the 924 00:48:17.460 --> 00:48:20.579 fun stuff. Here we go. Fun weekend. It is awesome. 925 00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:24.239 Here's some searches he made in the two weeks before 926 00:48:24.340 --> 00:48:30.349 David Brumley's death. I'll give you a few. Jobs outside 927 00:48:30.409 --> 00:48:34.190 the U.S., That's fine. I mean, you're not allowed to

928 00:48:34.250 --> 00:48:37.250 leave even the state, I'm sure, but whatever. Maybe you're 929 00:48:37.269 --> 00:48:40.780 just curious. Probably have to ask to leave your house. Probably. 930 00:48:41.539 --> 00:48:44.900 How to disappear off the grid. Okay, getting worse. Uh-oh. 931 00:48:45.690 --> 00:48:48.489 But maybe he's just interested in conservation. Maybe that's all 932 00:48:48.530 --> 00:48:50.489 it is. Maybe he just doesn't want to, you know, 933 00:48:50.869 --> 00:48:53.150 put any more shit in the world. Who knows? 934 00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:55.730 Living off-grid doesn't necessarily mean leaving town. 935 00:48:55.750 --> 00:48:56.909 No, no, no. That could just mean I'm going to 936 00:48:56.929 --> 00:48:59.630 live in that field and not be hooked up to county, 937 00:48:59.989 --> 00:49:03.429 you know, water. Exactly. Who knows? Maybe he's just trying 938 00:49:03.449 --> 00:49:06.250 to be self-sufficient. Then it gets a little weirder, though. 939 00:49:06.429 --> 00:49:09.769 How to get fake Social Security cards. I don't know. 940 00:49:10.150 --> 00:49:12.730 I don't know a law-abiding answer to that one. 941 00:49:13.570 --> 00:49:16.159 I don't know that there's a... a Google search that's 942 00:49:16.179 --> 00:49:17.280 going to give you that answer. 943 00:49:17.300 --> 00:49:20.300 Probably not. I mean, maybe the dark web or something. 944 00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:20.679 Yeah. 945 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.500 Is there any poison which cannot be detected? 946 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.349 Oh, my God. 947 00:49:25.429 --> 00:49:27.670 Judging by how David was killed, I'm going to say 948 00:49:27.710 --> 00:49:30.110 that the answer is no to that one probably. Yeah. 949 00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:32.320 Nothing he could get anyway. 950 00:49:33.340 --> 00:49:35.340 That's what he that's what it came up. Yeah, you're right. 951 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.320 Then his second thought is, well, I can burn it, obviously, 952 00:49:38.340 --> 00:49:41.369 because that's this guy. Whether you can get DNA from 953 00:49:41.409 --> 00:49:44.789 a burned body, quote unquote. He said, if I kill him, 954 00:49:44.809 --> 00:49:49.030 then burn the house down. Can I get DNA? Then 955 00:49:49.309 --> 00:49:52.719 how fast does it take a body to burn? Well, 956 00:49:52.739 --> 00:49:53.579 that depends on fire. 957 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:54.860 We've done a lot of shows. 958 00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.190 It takes a long time because you're not going to 959 00:49:57.230 --> 00:49:57.809 get it that hot. 960 00:49:57.929 --> 00:50:01.050 No. You need to have a goddamn incinerator. Yeah. Like 961 00:50:01.309 --> 00:50:02.170 at the funeral home. 962 00:50:02.690 --> 00:50:03.570 Thousands of degrees. 963 00:50:03.670 --> 00:50:06.210 Thousands of degrees. Yeah. Bodies do not burn up easy. 964 00:50:07.170 --> 00:50:10.250 Can you dissolve a body in acid? I happen to 965 00:50:10.289 --> 00:50:12.570 know that for a fact. The answer is yes. Yes. 966 00:50:12.739 --> 00:50:14.480 Because I know a guy. Gangster guy. 967 00:50:14.489 --> 00:50:15.650 Just takes a long time, too. 968 00:50:15.809 --> 00:50:18.329 Whose brother was like kind of a specialty in that. 969 00:50:19.030 --> 00:50:20.860 They had buckets and they would dissolve body parts. 970 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.380 He's got to get real strong acid. 971 00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:24.980 Yeah. You got to be patient. That's the other thing. 972 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:26.960 They got to have buckets and shit. Then he looked 973 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.440 up 2004 Mustang, but it's a 2006 Mustang. He's just confused. 974 00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.210 Next up, trunk size in 2004 Mustang. What? So you see, 975 00:50:37.230 --> 00:50:39.369 maybe I'll kidnap him and take him somewhere. Maybe I'll 976 00:50:39.409 --> 00:50:46.110 do this. Then cabins in the Tennessee mountains. Okay. Okay. 977 00:50:47.230 --> 00:50:52.449 That's before the murder. Yeah. Then after the death, now 978 00:50:52.489 --> 00:50:57.800 he's got more searches here. Quote, jobs in the Bahamas. Oh. 979 00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:01.139 He's like, I want to hear steel drums while I 980 00:51:01.179 --> 00:51:01.880 run from this shit. 981 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:03.679 I need a vacation. 982 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:10.900 Yep. How to disappear. That's pretty straightforward. Winchester, Indiana, murder investigation. 983 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:11.860 Okay. 984 00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:15.610 Oh. how can I buy a legit social security number 985 00:51:15.710 --> 00:51:16.849 and a fake passport? 986 00:51:17.389 --> 00:51:18.469 He still hasn't gotten that one. 987 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.400 He's still got that one he's working on. He's got 988 00:51:20.420 --> 00:51:22.719 to get out of here. This is my favorite search 989 00:51:22.739 --> 00:51:26.079 of all time. I don't know what he expected to 990 00:51:26.099 --> 00:51:31.570 glean from this. What result could possibly you get from this? Quote, 991 00:51:32.030 --> 00:51:36.070 had a run from the law with no money. He 992 00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:38.389 basically said, how to buy a house with no money down. 993 00:51:38.630 --> 00:51:40.949 But he said it like, how can I get it? 994 00:51:41.949 --> 00:51:43.429 There is no way to run for the law with 995 00:51:43.469 --> 00:51:45.469 no money. That's the answer to that. Hide in a 996 00:51:45.469 --> 00:51:46.849 hole in the woods. I don't know what to tell you. 997 00:51:47.550 --> 00:51:50.730 I do appreciate and enjoy the spiral that he's on. 998 00:51:50.869 --> 00:51:51.829 It is very funny. 999 00:51:52.050 --> 00:51:53.090 It's hilarious. 1000 00:51:53.949 --> 00:51:56.530 Because he's getting to, you know, it's like you can 1001 00:51:56.650 --> 00:52:01.590 see the, you can literally see the gears spinning. 1002 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:02.610 It's hilarious. 1003 00:52:03.050 --> 00:52:05.280 And that last part is like, oh, I have no

money. 1004 00:52:06.739 --> 00:52:09.039 How do I buy this and I don't even have 1005 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.300 any money? Never mind. How do I run without money? 1006 00:52:11.340 --> 00:52:12.119 That'll start there. 1007 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.420 You end up getting to the very first Google search 1008 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:16.860 you should have plugged in. Yeah. 1009 00:52:18.139 --> 00:52:22.579 Well, then he's looking for inspiration, obviously, with, quote, fugitives 1010 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.739 on the run the longest. He's like, what did they do? 1011 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.280 Maybe I can match that up. Then he looks up 1012 00:52:28.409 --> 00:52:31.389 Monty Cook, Indiana, to see if there's any articles about 1013 00:52:31.429 --> 00:52:34.349 anybody looking for him. And then he said, what's the 1014 00:52:34.409 --> 00:52:38.550 longest people have stayed hid that were wanted for murder? 1015 00:52:39.989 --> 00:52:44.489 So never mind fugitives, specific fugitives of murder. Maybe he's 1016 00:52:44.510 --> 00:52:50.110 got to hone it. Then he visited websites with news 1017 00:52:50.190 --> 00:52:54.400 articles with these headlines. Police looking for Mustang taken from 1018 00:52:54.460 --> 00:52:57.840 dead man's home in Winchester. Police looking for a vehicle 1019 00:52:57.940 --> 00:53:01.940 missing from deceased person's residence. And man wanted in connection 1020 00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:08.150 with death investigation in Winchester. Wow. So he's reading online 1021 00:53:08.210 --> 00:53:11.340 all about the investigation as much as he can. And 1022 00:53:11.380 --> 00:53:16.130 by the way, two days before the murder, Cook's girlfriend, yes, 1023 00:53:16.429 --> 00:53:20.989 this guy has a girlfriend. Stop it. This dude in 1024 00:53:21.030 --> 00:53:23.949 his 50s who's just gotten out of prison for fucking 1025 00:53:24.150 --> 00:53:30.059 arson for all this time. No money. Keep it going. Kidnapping. 1026 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.559 The reasons are numerous why he should be beaten off 1027 00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:34.099 every day. 1028 00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.900 I do not want to hear anybody say they can't 1029 00:53:37.980 --> 00:53:41.909 find somebody. Lower your standards and find someone because they're 1030 00:53:41.949 --> 00:53:44.360 out there. That's it. They're out there. This is unbelievable. 1031 00:53:44.380 --> 00:53:47.860 They're always out there. So she reported that he was 1032 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:52.440 missing and possibly on the run at that time because 1033 00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:57.489 of an ongoing arson-related investigation. Yeah. So if that's not enough, 1034 00:53:57.510 --> 00:54:00.570 that's pretty good proof. And the DNA is decent proof. 1035 00:54:01.389 --> 00:54:03.389 But if you've got a really good lawyer in there, 1036 00:54:04.090 --> 00:54:07.679 it's possible. Probably, yeah. Then they also have bank footage 1037 00:54:07.739 --> 00:54:12.219 from November 1st, 2018. That's the day after Brumley got 1038 00:54:12.260 --> 00:54:15.769 the bank loan and was last seen alive. Security cameras 1039 00:54:15.809 --> 00:54:20.610 at a Winchester bank recorded Cook depositing Brumley's loan check 1040 00:54:20.889 --> 00:54:23.250 into his own checking account. 1041 00:54:24.349 --> 00:54:26.710 He stole money the man didn't even have. 1042 00:54:28.030 --> 00:54:29.690 He just had it like wrote it over to him 1043 00:54:29.789 --> 00:54:32.429 and deposited it in his fucking shit. Or he got 1044 00:54:32.449 --> 00:54:33.829 a cashier's check or whatever it was. 1045 00:54:34.389 --> 00:54:36.530 Is there a scummy or crime? 1046 00:54:36.769 --> 00:54:40.650 This dude is a complete piece of shit scumbag, isn't he? 1047 00:54:41.019 --> 00:54:42.059 The worst person. 1048 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:47.119 He sucks so bad. So cameras at other Winchester locations 1049 00:54:47.300 --> 00:54:52.090 also recorded Cook driving Brumley's Mustang, using Brumley's debit card 1050 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.489 to make purchases and withdraw cash. Within three days, he 1051 00:54:55.530 --> 00:54:59.269 had spent and withdrawn over $ 2, 500 of Brumley's money as well. 1052 00:54:59.889 --> 00:55:00.769 This is shocking. 1053 00:55:00.929 --> 00:55:04.550 This is fucking amazing. So he went in, deposited the 1054 00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:08.090 check into Brumley's checking account because otherwise he couldn't get it, 1055 00:55:08.190 --> 00:55:10.679 and then just used his card to use all the 1056 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.280 money that he wanted to. Unbelievable. So the police are 1057 00:55:13.340 --> 00:55:16.400 looking for Monty. They can't find him. Through December, they're 1058 00:55:16.420 --> 00:55:18.619 looking for him. They can't find him. The car is 1059 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:23.619 found finally. The car is found, 2006 Ford Mustang GT, 1060 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.380 found in Marion, Arkansas. 1061 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:27.440 Oh, it went the other way. 1062 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:31.090 About 12 miles northwest of Memphis. So that's where that 1063 00:55:31.110 --> 00:55:34.739 was found. Then Monty's car a couple days later was found. 1064 00:55:34.780 --> 00:55:38.980 His pickup truck was found abandoned in Winchester. So now 1065 00:55:39.019 --> 00:55:41.820 he's got– those are the two vehicles he had access to. 1066 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.300 Where are they? He is gone. They're looking for him 1067 00:55:46.340 --> 00:55:48.860 for about five months. They can't find this fucking guy. 1068 00:55:48.940 --> 00:55:49.960 He has no money, no connections. 1069 00:55:49.980 --> 00:55:51.820 He's got to be in the mountains of Tennessee, right? 1070 00:55:52.179 --> 00:55:53.760 Absolutely the complete opposite. 1071 00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:55.119 What? 1072 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.679 He is in the fucking desert. That's where he is. 1073 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.519 He's in Kingman,

Arizona is where he is. 1074 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:02.389 Of course he is. 1075 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:06.170 He said, where will I fit in? Oh, that's the 1076 00:56:06.210 --> 00:56:10.190 scummiest fucking town in America. How about there? Just down 1077 00:56:10.230 --> 00:56:13.090 the river from Laughlin. They'll look at me and go, well, 1078 00:56:13.110 --> 00:56:15.329 at least he's not picking meth sores. What a good guy. 1079 00:56:15.369 --> 00:56:19.329 I'll get any job I want in Kingman. Wow. April 19th, 1080 00:56:19.309 --> 00:56:25.119 2019 in Kingman, he is arrested. At that point– Unbelievable. 1081 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.000 He's charged in Indiana with a count of murder, two 1082 00:56:28.059 --> 00:56:33.619 counts of a level six felony theft, and one count 1083 00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:38.250 of a class A misdemeanor theft. Apparently, he's also held 1084 00:56:38.289 --> 00:56:42.110 in Arizona awaiting the extradition on local charges in Arizona, 1085 00:56:43.190 --> 00:56:47.289 taking an identity of another, possession of marijuana, and credit 1086 00:56:47.309 --> 00:56:47.869 card theft. 1087 00:56:48.690 --> 00:56:49.809 That's how they caught him. 1088 00:56:49.969 --> 00:56:51.829 That's how they got him. Well, what he did– you 1089 00:56:51.869 --> 00:56:55.079 know how he got to Arizona– He hitchhiked a ride 1090 00:56:55.139 --> 00:57:00.360 from Arkansas to Nevada with Alexander Gross, who's a guy 1091 00:57:00.539 --> 00:57:05.079 that Cook met online. Another guy traveling. It was like, hey, 1092 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:07.659 people looking for people to ride with them places so 1093 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:08.320 they don't get bored. 1094 00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:11.000 He just drove the Mustang down there, parked it, and 1095 00:57:11.019 --> 00:57:11.760 jumped in his car. 1096 00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:15.349 Jumped in his car. Once in Nevada, Cook robbed Gross 1097 00:57:15.409 --> 00:57:20.030 at knife point. and forced him to drive him to Arizona, 1098 00:57:20.190 --> 00:57:23.300 then forced Gross to rent him a hotel room before 1099 00:57:23.340 --> 00:57:23.889 letting him go. 1100 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:25.460 Oh, my. 1101 00:57:25.659 --> 00:57:27.239 That's how they caught him. This guy went to the 1102 00:57:27.260 --> 00:57:29.599 cops and said, yeah, no, that guy, I know what 1103 00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:31.019 room he's in. You can just go get him. I 1104 00:57:31.059 --> 00:57:34.239 had to rent the room. It's under my name. Trust me. 1105 00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:39.750 Go ask for me. So this guy is a jerk-off, 1106 00:57:40.650 --> 00:57:42.949 a dangerous jerk-off, I think would be the best way 1107 00:57:42.969 --> 00:57:43.489 to put it, right? 1108 00:57:43.940 --> 00:57:47.909 I can't believe how dangerous he is. Think about that. 1109 00:57:49.780 --> 00:57:50.889 Nothing is above him. 1110 00:57:51.210 --> 00:57:55.190 Nothing is beneath him, yeah. Beneath him. Above or beneath. 1111 00:57:55.289 --> 00:57:55.809 Either way. 1112 00:57:57.250 --> 00:57:58.150 He'll do anything. 1113 00:57:58.869 --> 00:58:01.449 Nothing's above him or below him. It doesn't matter. He's 1114 00:58:01.510 --> 00:58:05.590 a fucking mess. Those searches of just the, hmm, what 1115 00:58:05.610 --> 00:58:09.079 about this thought? How about that? No, that's a bad idea. Okay. 1116 00:58:09.420 --> 00:58:13.719 The spiral of desperation is very evident, and he is 1117 00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:18.110 willing to do absolutely anything to survive and not be caught. 1118 00:58:18.489 --> 00:58:22.429 Imagine if you're this guy's girlfriend. You're like, whew, bullet dodged. 1119 00:58:22.590 --> 00:58:23.070 Holy shit. 1120 00:58:23.090 --> 00:58:24.610 Thank God. I would have been dead. 1121 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:28.260 Oh, yeah. No shit. So this is this guy, all 1122 00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:31.860 the things he done, the increasing desperation, I'll kill the guy. 1123 00:58:32.699 --> 00:58:38.059 This is all for what? Right. He got Monty's Mustang 1124 00:58:38.139 --> 00:58:41.300 and spent $ 2, 500 of his money. That's all he got 1125 00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:41.679 out of that. 1126 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:47.730 James, money that he did not even have. It was 1127 00:58:47.769 --> 00:58:48.329 not his money. 1128 00:58:48.349 --> 00:58:48.510 No. 1129 00:58:48.570 --> 00:58:49.309 He borrowed that. 1130 00:58:49.329 --> 00:58:51.349 He had to pay that shit back with interest. 1131 00:58:51.869 --> 00:58:52.130 Right. 1132 00:58:52.489 --> 00:58:54.010 And he's just pissing it away on things. 1133 00:58:54.030 --> 00:58:56.159 That is the scummiest thing I've ever heard of. 1134 00:58:56.199 --> 00:59:00.199 That's terrible. I mean, just to kill him over that? 1135 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.739 To kill somebody for borrowed money. 1136 00:59:02.739 --> 00:59:05.909 Yeah. It's one thing if it was like,– we see 1137 00:59:05.929 --> 00:59:09.539 all the time, oh, they had an $ 800, 000 insurance policy 1138 00:59:09.579 --> 00:59:12.400 in 1995. Well, that's a reason to kill somebody, I guess, 1139 00:59:12.500 --> 00:59:15.469 if you're that desperate for money. But this is just– 1140 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.690 I'd like to go on a little spending spree. for 1141 00:59:18.710 --> 00:59:21.159 the next couple days, so I'll kill my friend for it. 1142 00:59:21.210 --> 00:59:21.829 That's wild. 1143 00:59:21.849 --> 00:59:24.210 There's a couple of couches I've had my eye on. 1144 00:59:24.289 --> 00:59:27.769 That's what this is. This is such a tiny amount 1145 00:59:27.789 --> 00:59:30.380 of money that a man didn't even have. That he 1146 00:59:30.409 --> 00:59:34.980 was so... This was to keep him from dying this winter. 1147 00:59:35.019 --> 00:59:35.860 That's what the money was. 1148 00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:37.739 So you got a couch with cup holders in it. 1149 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:38.599 Wow. 1150 00:59:38.619 --> 00:59:41.559 Gave the old baby

Billy there. Yeah. Got you a 1151 00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:46.559 couch with cup holders in it. I love that. So... 1152 00:59:47.110 --> 00:59:49.239 That's what he's charged with all this shit. I can't 1153 00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:51.579 believe that's how he got to fucking Arizona. That is. 1154 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.679 Who knew that that was a website? I mean, I 1155 00:59:54.699 --> 00:59:56.260 guess there's a website for everything. 1156 00:59:56.300 --> 00:59:59.489 There's a website for everything. No, if there's websites that people... 1157 01:00:00.179 --> 01:00:02.239 To stare at people's feet, there's got to be ones 1158 01:00:02.300 --> 01:00:06.699 for someone to hang out with while I drive. That 1159 01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:10.559 seems more reasonable than I just want to stare at 1160 01:00:10.619 --> 01:00:12.219 some weird whatever the fuck. 1161 01:00:12.260 --> 01:00:16.780 Seatmate.com seems like it's been established long before feetmate.com. 1162 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:22.920 Yes, or like ilikegoiters.org or whatever the fuck. Some weird 1163 01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:25.579 jerking off to people's groats or something. I have no idea. 1164 01:00:26.409 --> 01:00:30.929 So they go to trial. He does not plead. He says, 1165 01:00:31.210 --> 01:00:35.409 you don't have evidence I did this. What? He's saying, 1166 01:00:35.869 --> 01:00:39.570 the stuff you found, the tape, the physical evidence you found, 1167 01:00:39.869 --> 01:00:41.800 that could have just been from me being over there. 1168 01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.239 You don't know it's not, even though it's on tape 1169 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.300 that's wrapped around the guy's head, both kinds of tape. 1170 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.340 But still, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt 1171 01:00:49.380 --> 01:00:56.800 on the tape. That's fine. Then the fucking internet searches. Yeah. Yeah. 1172 01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.139 I mean, maybe he's just curious. Maybe he's a curious 1173 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:01.980 little guy. That's all it is. Maybe he's just. 1174 01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:03.960 Aware of more things than the cops give him credit 1175 01:01:03.980 --> 01:01:04.739 for being aware of. 1176 01:01:05.139 --> 01:01:07.400 Maybe he sees things and he goes, I wonder, and 1177 01:01:07.420 --> 01:01:10.860 looks it up. He's a knowledge seeker. That's all it is. 1178 01:01:12.050 --> 01:01:16.449 Well, what about the surveillance of him cashing a check? 1179 01:01:16.769 --> 01:01:19.909 When the guy was dead. That's the problem. How did 1180 01:01:21.809 --> 01:01:24.559 you get his furnace money in your hand? Right. And 1181 01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:27.320 then spend it, not on his furnace. You know what 1182 01:01:27.340 --> 01:01:29.980 I'm saying? So that's kind of where it all falls apart. 1183 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.050 Even if you wanted to be the most pro-defendant, you'd 1184 01:01:34.090 --> 01:01:36.550 still be like, well, that's kind of hard to

explain there. 1185 01:01:36.570 --> 01:01:39.750 This is money that he doesn't have. There's no way 1186 01:01:39.809 --> 01:01:40.429 he would give. 1187 01:01:40.349 --> 01:01:44.389 It to you. And they also say circumstantial evidence is fine. 1188 01:01:45.050 --> 01:01:46.510 You know, a lot of times you hear defense attorneys 1189 01:01:46.530 --> 01:01:49.090 say this case is totally circumstantial. And then the prosecution 1190 01:01:49.110 --> 01:01:50.949 will go up and go, yeah, it is. It's a 1191 01:01:51.110 --> 01:01:56.070 shitload of circumstantial evidence, which– Those circumstances don't happen like that, generally. 1192 01:01:56.329 --> 01:02:00.670 Yeah, those circumstances are crazy to be coincidences. 1193 01:02:00.730 --> 01:02:05.789 Yeah. If they found, like, you know, some of Brumley's 1194 01:02:05.889 --> 01:02:08.690 blood on this guy's shirt, that would be physical evidence 1195 01:02:08.710 --> 01:02:11.510 that would be worth a giant pile of circumstantial evidence. 1196 01:02:11.530 --> 01:02:13.280 They have to make a huge pile of it to 1197 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:15.780 equal one piece of physical evidence. But if you have 1198 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.059 enough of it, it's fine. 1199 01:02:17.820 --> 01:02:20.510 He'd have to be in the room while— While Bromley's 1200 01:02:20.550 --> 01:02:24.090 being strangled and him to like throw him the check and. 1201 01:02:24.030 --> 01:02:25.010 Say, spend this for me. 1202 01:02:25.030 --> 01:02:26.139 Spend the money. 1203 01:02:27.219 --> 01:02:28.519 And here's my debit card too. 1204 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:31.800 Just take my wallet. There you go. You're going to 1205 01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.820 need this. You're going to need it. Someone better live 1206 01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:37.679 it up because I could never. Since I can't, I 1207 01:02:37.739 --> 01:02:40.860 want you to. Do it for me. Live for me, 1208 01:02:40.900 --> 01:02:41.599 damn it. Live. 1209 01:02:44.070 --> 01:02:45.429 Talk holidays. 1210 01:02:45.750 --> 01:02:48.989 Exactly. Get room service. Why? 1211 01:02:49.030 --> 01:02:50.550 Thank you for being my friend. 1212 01:02:50.630 --> 01:02:59.389 Yep. So. Come on. Live it up, man. Live it up, Wyatt. 1213 01:02:59.409 --> 01:03:00.070 That's all he wanted. 1214 01:03:00.610 --> 01:03:02.630 Take that pale lady and get room service. 1215 01:03:02.710 --> 01:03:06.909 That's right. You take that fucking pompous-ass lady and get 1216 01:03:06.969 --> 01:03:13.139 room service. So, verdict comes in. They find him. Well, 1217 01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:16.360 he's accused of murder, auto theft, and two counts of 1218 01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.340 theft for the different money things. He's found guilty of 1219 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:25.059 auto theft, guilty of two counts of theft, and guilty 1220 01:03:25.099 --> 01:03:29.340 of murder as well. So, that's everything. He does not 1221 01:03:29.420 --> 01:03:33.219 testify at all or make any statement during the sentencing. 1222 01:03:33.590 --> 01:03:34.429 Is that right? 1223 01:03:34.570 --> 01:03:39.050 Doesn't seem wise, probably, but he doesn't say shit. Judge 1224 01:03:39.090 --> 01:03:43.789 says something, though. They say, you, sir, may fuck off 1225 01:03:43.789 --> 01:03:50.670 62 years for murder, two years for theft, and they're consecutive. 1226 01:03:50.710 --> 01:03:53.219 So 64 years is what you got there. 1227 01:03:53.429 --> 01:03:53.719 Okay. 1228 01:03:53.889 --> 01:03:58.880 Okay. It's awfully lenient, isn't it? It's 64 years, and 1229 01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:01.130 I believe he has to do all of it. Oh, 1230 01:04:01.190 --> 01:04:03.150 and he's in his 50s, so it's over for him. 1231 01:04:03.210 --> 01:04:05.250 So it's not good. Or he has to do like 1232 01:04:05.250 --> 01:04:08.150 90% of it or some 95%. It's a lot. Yeah, 1233 01:04:08.190 --> 01:04:11.989 wait till you hear his release date. All right. He's 1234 01:04:12.010 --> 01:04:14.230 going to be there for the remainder. Let's just put 1235 01:04:14.269 --> 01:04:18.530 it that way. The prosecutor said the browsing history of 1236 01:04:18.570 --> 01:04:21.829 this cold-blooded killer painted a clear picture of someone planning 1237 01:04:21.869 --> 01:04:24.210 to commit murder to dispose of a human body and 1238 01:04:24.250 --> 01:04:28.670 to evade the authorities by going off the grid. Combined 1239 01:04:28.710 --> 01:04:31.199 with other evidence, this kind of Internet activity is a 1240 01:04:31.219 --> 01:04:34.619 very legitimate piece of the puzzle. I'm proud of our 1241 01:04:34.659 --> 01:04:37.719 team for helping ensure justice in this case and holding 1242 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:41.940 a violent criminal accountable under the law. Um, the arson 1243 01:04:41.980 --> 01:04:43.519 and all the other shit that he had when they 1244 01:04:43.539 --> 01:04:45.500 were looking for, they just dismissed all of that. They're like, 1245 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:46.199 he's wipe it all. 1246 01:04:46.340 --> 01:04:46.980 Cause it doesn't matter. 1247 01:04:47.059 --> 01:04:49.280 It doesn't matter. He's in for 64 years. Fuck that house. 1248 01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.280 So 2023, he appeals on the, under the, uh, guys, he, 1249 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.920 what he appeals got to appeal direct appeal, I guess. Yeah. 1250 01:04:58.300 --> 01:05:02.019 Insufficient evidence is what he claims. Yeah. All right. Wow. 1251 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:06.409 That's ballsy. Um, he said the sentence was inappropriate in 1252 01:05:06.469 --> 01:05:08.750 late of, in light of the nature of the offenses 1253 01:05:08.929 --> 01:05:12.610 and his character. Oh, the nature of these fences are 1254 01:05:12.650 --> 01:05:15.130 brutal murder. And his character is a piece of shit 1255 01:05:15.150 --> 01:05:17.280 who would burn a factory down because he's mad at 1256 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:18.760 his wife. He's a scumbag. 1257 01:05:18.780 --> 01:05:19.780 Yeah.

1258 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:20.460 Terrible guys. 1259 01:05:21.139 --> 01:05:23.780 A sentient piece of shit is less dangerous. 1260 01:05:24.099 --> 01:05:28.079 Yeah, absolutely. You could at least trust it. Probably. 1261 01:05:28.099 --> 01:05:30.420 You can smell it coming. 1262 01:05:30.460 --> 01:05:33.400 You know, it's coming. They said, when reviewing the sufficiency 1263 01:05:33.420 --> 01:05:36.170 of the evidence to support a criminal conviction, we neither 1264 01:05:36.269 --> 01:05:39.949 reweigh evidence nor judge witness credibility. This is just– we 1265 01:05:39.989 --> 01:05:42.889 only consider the evidence supporting the judgment and any reasonable 1266 01:05:42.949 --> 01:05:45.639 inferences that can be drawn from such evidence. We will 1267 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:49.920 affirm if there is a substantial evidence of probative value. 1268 01:05:50.059 --> 01:05:53.059 So they said the state was required to prove that 1269 01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.860 he knowingly or intentionally killed Brumley. Cook acknowledges that Brumley 1270 01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.829 was murdered but claims the state failed to prove it 1271 01:05:59.849 --> 01:06:03.519 was him that did it. Oh, my God. He was murdered, sure. 1272 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:07.219 I'll buy that. But me, you know. 1273 01:06:07.409 --> 01:06:09.590 It's only one other person's fingerprints on this man. 1274 01:06:09.789 --> 01:06:13.030 Wasn't me. But we have you on camera. Wasn't me. 1275 01:06:14.269 --> 01:06:17.030 He went full shaggy. I'm the shaggy murderer. That's who 1276 01:06:17.139 --> 01:06:17.360 I am. 1277 01:06:17.389 --> 01:06:18.320 This is unbelievable. 1278 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:21.760 It's crazy. He said there's no direct evidence that he 1279 01:06:21.780 --> 01:06:25.920 was ever at Brumley's home when the murder occurred. He said, therefore, 1280 01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.650 there's reasonable— inference that he simply stole the car, debit 1281 01:06:30.710 --> 01:06:34.289 card and loan check after finding Brumley dead. That's his 1282 01:06:34.659 --> 01:06:37.079 that's his excuse. I went in there to see him. 1283 01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:39.699 He was dead. So I just stole all his shit 1284 01:06:39.739 --> 01:06:44.719 and ran away. Which is that's not great either. We're 1285 01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:47.219 talking about character. Right. 1286 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:49.559 Do you think that's a thing that he presented to 1287 01:06:49.579 --> 01:06:51.380 his lawyer and his lawyer was like, there's not a 1288 01:06:51.409 --> 01:06:52.469 fucking chance I'm doing that. 1289 01:06:53.940 --> 01:06:56.380 He's like, well, it's either that or murder. So we're 1290 01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.949 going to what we're going with. You're just an opportunistic thief. 1291 01:07:00.030 --> 01:07:03.309 That's what we're going with. How about that? So the 1292 01:07:03.349 --> 01:07:07.710 law said here that murder conviction may be sustained on 1293 01:07:07.769 --> 01:07:12.329 circumstantial evidence alone. The evidence need not negate every reasonable 1294 01:07:12.389 --> 01:07:15.460 hypothesis of innocence just has to be they just need 1295 01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.329 to be sure it's you. That's it. That's all it is. 1296 01:07:18.489 --> 01:07:21.630 So they said the evidence supports a reasonable inference that 1297 01:07:21.670 --> 01:07:24.409 he's the person that killed him. And Cook's claim to 1298 01:07:24.449 --> 01:07:27.269 the contrary is merely an invitation to reweigh the evidence, 1299 01:07:27.289 --> 01:07:29.050 which is not what we do here. So that's it. 1300 01:07:29.530 --> 01:07:33.099 Was the sentence appropriate? They said, seemed like it. They said, 1301 01:07:33.139 --> 01:07:36.380 we give substantial deference to the trial court's sentencing decision. 1302 01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:39.260 The trial court's judgment should prevail unless it's overcome by 1303 01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:42.710 compelling evidence that portraying in a positive light the nature 1304 01:07:42.750 --> 01:07:45.260 of the offense and the defendant's character. Well, swing and 1305 01:07:45.300 --> 01:07:47.679 a miss, swing and a miss. Piece of shit did 1306 01:07:47.699 --> 01:07:48.360 something terrible. 1307 01:07:48.780 --> 01:07:51.019 Feels like it was light, to be honest. 1308 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:53.170 Exactly. Could have got worse. Could have got life without, 1309 01:07:53.250 --> 01:07:55.849 or at least life. The trial court said that he 1310 01:07:55.869 --> 01:07:58.940 had a lack of remorse. But they said, no, the 1311 01:07:58.980 --> 01:08:02.380 lack of remorse was merely an outward manifestation of his innocence. 1312 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:04.860 How can you be remorseful for something you didn't do? 1313 01:08:05.260 --> 01:08:06.260 Well, I didn't do it. 1314 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:06.699 Duh. 1315 01:08:07.110 --> 01:08:10.369 I took a man's check because I'm a piece of shit. 1316 01:08:10.449 --> 01:08:14.409 Yeah. The judge wrote, neither the nature of Cook's offenses 1317 01:08:14.449 --> 01:08:18.210 nor his character convinces us that his 64-year sentence is inappropriate. 1318 01:08:19.010 --> 01:08:21.859 She said he carried out a premeditated, unprovoked, and cruel 1319 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:25.060 murder of his longtime acquaintance before stealing his car and 1320 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:26.640 money and fleeing across the country. 1321 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:28.560 His beloved car. 1322 01:08:29.020 --> 01:08:31.920 He said, what's more, these offenses are just another chapter 1323 01:08:31.979 --> 01:08:36.390 in Cook's alarming history of criminal conduct. Bad guy. Because 1324 01:08:36.550 --> 01:08:38.890 we don't know what he did before the fire back 1325 01:08:38.930 --> 01:08:42.029 in 2003. Because he was a full-grown adult by then. 1326 01:08:42.050 --> 01:08:43.729 I bet he had a shitload of charges. I looked 1327 01:08:43.750 -->

01:08:46.250 them up. I couldn't find any. But, I mean, that's pre-2000, 1328 01:08:46.270 --> 01:08:50.810 a lot of shit, small towns, not computerized. Right. They said, 1329 01:08:50.829 --> 01:08:53.920 neither the nature of this nor his character convinces us 1330 01:08:53.939 --> 01:08:57.550 that's an inappropriate sentence. We think it's just right. You 1331 01:08:57.569 --> 01:08:59.789 can fuck off. And they said his internet browsing history 1332 01:08:59.810 --> 01:09:02.420 rewrites really showed that what he was doing. 1333 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.479 There's no way you burned down Mastercraft on your first 1334 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:06.359 criminal attempt. 1335 01:09:06.470 --> 01:09:10.270 Fuck no. No. So he's incarcerated at the Indiana State 1336 01:09:10.310 --> 01:09:14.260 Prison in Michigan City. He has a projected release date 1337 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.899 of October 2066 when he will be 107 years old. 1338 01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.260 That's his first parole hearing. 107. I think we're safe. 1339 01:09:24.380 --> 01:09:26.479 I think we're good on that guy. Yeah, I would say. 1340 01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:30.159 Buck 07. If he does make it to 107, I 1341 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.720 say let him out and just watch him try. 1342 01:09:33.260 --> 01:09:34.380 I don't say let him out. 1343 01:09:34.500 --> 01:09:37.600 I say push his ass out. You have to leave now. 1344 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:38.779 Get the fuck out. 1345 01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.439 But everyone I know is dead. That's all right. Get 1346 01:09:41.460 --> 01:09:43.069 the fuck out. But I'd have nowhere to go. 1347 01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:44.380 Get the fuck out, Green Mile. 1348 01:09:44.699 --> 01:09:47.930 Sorry. I don't know what to tell you. Light a 1349 01:09:47.970 --> 01:09:50.050 fire for warmth. What the fuck do you want from us? 1350 01:09:50.149 --> 01:09:50.789 I mean, good luck. 1351 01:09:51.810 --> 01:09:55.010 Look, in the past, we've had like women and children killed. Obviously, 1352 01:09:55.050 --> 01:09:56.770 that's a terrible, terrible individual. 1353 01:09:56.810 --> 01:09:57.090 Yeah, yeah. 1354 01:09:57.210 --> 01:10:00.060 This guy went and killed a man who was old, 1355 01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.680 took a check he didn't even, money he didn't even have. 1356 01:10:04.220 --> 01:10:04.560 Yeah, no, no. 1357 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:07.100 And then went and blew half of it in a second. 1358 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:08.520 And then what? 1359 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:11.680 He was going to do way worse. This man's dangerous. 1360 01:10:11.819 --> 01:10:15.149 It's a dangerous guy. The house, the murder house still stands, 1361 01:10:15.229 --> 01:10:18.649 by the way. Really? It's occupied. And the Zestimate is $ 114, 000 1362 01:10:18.550 --> 01:10:23.409 on it. It's awfully cheap. Two bedroom, one bath, 1,600 1363 01:10:23.409 --> 01:10:25.979 square foot. There it is. Detached garage. 1364 01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.800 Probably

was not killing it. The poor man was, he 1365 01:10:28.819 --> 01:10:30.359 just had his prized Mustang. 1366 01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:32.159 That's it. The poor fuck. That's what he spent his 1367 01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.359 money on. It's all he had. So there you go, everybody. 1368 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.000 That is Winchester, Indiana. And just a twisted tale of 1369 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.210 a huge gaping asshole of a guy. What a monster. 1370 01:10:41.229 --> 01:10:44.260 Just a bad fucking guy. And for some reason, Hawaiian 1371 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.319 music in Indiana. Whatever it is. We haven't figured it out. 1372 01:10:48.779 --> 01:10:51.130 There you go, everybody. Hope you enjoyed that. If you did, 1373 01:10:51.170 --> 01:10:53.510 get on whatever app you're on and give us five stars. 1374 01:10:53.590 --> 01:10:56.270 Tell you that right now. Netflix, two thumbs up. If 1375 01:10:56.310 --> 01:10:59.770 you're watching on Netflix and... you want to listen to 1376 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.140 the show. It's on anywhere you can listen to podcasts. 1377 01:11:02.220 --> 01:11:05.739 And there are about, this is our 738th episode. So yeah, 1378 01:11:06.140 --> 01:11:07.000 good luck. Catch up. 1379 01:11:07.060 --> 01:11:08.920 And we've heard from people at the live shows. 1380 01:11:08.939 --> 01:11:09.399 That was great. 1381 01:11:09.420 --> 01:11:11.920 People discovered us from Netflix. So thank you. 1382 01:11:11.939 --> 01:11:14.579 There's people that have never listened to the show that 1383 01:11:14.619 --> 01:11:16.300 came to the live show. Cause just cause they've seen 1384 01:11:16.340 --> 01:11:18.409 us on Netflix. And I was like, that's my point. 1385 01:11:18.430 --> 01:11:19.029 If that's you. 1386 01:11:19.689 --> 01:11:21.329 Baby boy, do we have something for you. 1387 01:11:21.470 --> 01:11:24.130 You fucking rule. So thank you, thank you, thank you 1388 01:11:24.149 --> 01:11:26.359 for all that you do. Get on. Find where the 1389 01:11:26.420 --> 01:11:28.539 rest of these are. That's what I'm talking about. Shut 1390 01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:31.279 up and give me murder.com is where you find those. 1391 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:35.789 That's right. Next up is Dallas, October 3rd. Get your tickets. 1392 01:11:35.930 --> 01:11:38.670 One show that weekend. That's going to be a special 1393 01:11:38.750 --> 01:11:40.710 one because that will, it's going to be a brand 1394 01:11:40.770 --> 01:11:43.210 new live show. And it will be a live show 1395 01:11:43.229 --> 01:11:46.329 that is from the suburbs of Dallas. So get in 1396 01:11:46.350 --> 01:11:49.350 there and do that. And then the next time we're 1397 01:11:49.369 --> 01:11:52.699 on the road, that's October 16th, 17th, San Jose, Sacramento. 1398 01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:54.640 They will be different shows. 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