บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode #5: Dr. Ryan Dyer

of a job they do for your community. 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:54.639 Where did that come from? 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.000 And and do you enjoy it? 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.279 Do you is it work for you to do that, or do you get joy from that? 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:10.000 Well, I think it's different because when you tell somebody what a great job they're doing in person, you automatically get that self-gratification, like wow, that you can see their facial expressions and all those things. 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:22.800 So uh I do enjoy, I think I got so much of it from you, honestly, the the way you you used to, you know, playing for you uh back in the day and how you treated us, but the world's just changed now, and that's where it's evolved. 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.680 And um, so yes, definitely enjoy that. 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:31.519 And I just think that's uh honestly, do I really enjoy social media and scrolling? 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:37.439 Uh, not so much, but I do enjoy uh celebrating people uh on there, and I really appreciate you saying that. 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:48.639 Well, it's just it's so fun for me to watch because I know how sincere and authentic it is, and and I hope your kids and your staff understand that. 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:54.879 I mean, it it's coming from a truly genuine place with you, and you do appreciate them. 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:06.720 And I think that's a great reminder for all of us that are in teaching leadership, how important it is to give that pat in the back when somebody does something good. 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:07.680 No doubt. 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:09.759 I think we so many times we get caught up. 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:22.879 I know I'm really bad at this, is my intentions are good, but maybe I don't follow through on the thing that I set out, or I think something about somebody uh and I don't tell them, or I don't show uh gratitude, or I don't do those things. 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:38.560 And I think uh trying to get more and more in a habit of just, you know, today we showed up with our athletics clerk and assistant athletic director just gave somebody a$20 gift card in their classroom, just little things that that pop in our head all the time, but I think the key is acting on them. 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.360 That's so great and it's so powerful, you know. 00:06:41.439 --> 00:07:04.480 It's it's so it's so empowering for your staff to know that you've got their back because a lot of times we're we're just going to work, you know, we're just trying to be good people, and we all are so busy in education that sometimes we forget to stop and go, man, we're we're getting a lot of good done. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.120 We need to appreciate it, we need to take back and celebrate that. 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:08.720 So I really love it. 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:09.920 It's taught me a lot. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:15.759 I'm I'm I'm trying to pick up on uh the things that you're doing, and and uh I think it's great. 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:17.759 No, I I I read something today. 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:19.040 It's funny you said that, coach. 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:26.480 You you know, I I did not enjoy reading until I met you, and I've probably read, I don't know, gosh, 300, 400 books at least. 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:27.279 I don't know. 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:38.560 But long story short, I read something today about make sure you put time in your calendar to to celebrate, to celebrate the the milestones and the the if you're in a season and celebrate people. 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.560 So I think that's you know, that's huge. 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.160 Our calendar tells us everything. 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:43.759 It does, it really does. 00:07:43.920 --> 00:08:00.959 It's you know, I've I I've been really working on my executive function skills, trying to be more organized, trying to enable my calendar to enable me to get my tasks done and and to be more consistent with those things. 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.199 So I really love all that that you're doing. 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:13.839 Hey, I you got this big picture, people can't see it because they're listening, but you've got this great picture over your over your wall right behind you with that one percent, your wolf pack. 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.600 Talk talk to the audience about where that comes from, that one percent. 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:18.959 What does it mean to you? 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:23.519 How do you try and teach it and articulate it to the people in your community? 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:28.800 Well, I think it all started when I was a player, uh playing for you. 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:43.440 I used to really think that, man, if I worked hard for a week and just busted it, which uh there's a lot of value to that, um, I could accomplish all my dreams and all my aspirations, and and maybe I could slack for a long time. 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:48.960 Um, but as I've gotten older and and and figured a few things out, uh still a lot to learn. 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:52.240 I've I've realized it's all about your habits and what you do every day. 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:58.320 So those little things that we just kind of talked about, uh celebrate people, is that something that we do every day? 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.200 So I to me it's two two things. 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:12.559 It's one percent is the little things matter, you know, who what coaches are picking up trash, what coaches are taking time to sit down with a kid and and and be an energy giver. 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.000 Um just being above, just saying, hey, I'll do extra. 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.000 And then it's the the the one percent let's get better every day mindset. 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.879 Like let's go to work every day and let's just don't show up and clock in, clock out. 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.600 Uh champions do more and let's get better. 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:33.279

Maybe it's you know, I always have a weekly goal, like what am I doing this week to try to get better for myself? 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:38.320 So it's just getting better every single day, stacking those keystone habits on and on. 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:45.360 Are you finding that the message is is turning into change? 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:52.720 Are you finding that your kids and your staff and your people are really buying into it and they're and they're seeing the results of that? 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:53.840 Yeah, I think so. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:59.360 I think because when I was when I I've been doing this job for five years as athletic director and assistant principal. 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.240 Well, before that, I was a head basketball coach here for eight. 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.559 So I knew the culture really well, loved it. 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:09.120 When I I think you just like when you hire somebody, it's all about what do you need at that time. 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.159 Well, at that time we had a good thing going. 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.320 Uh, I wanted to turn good to great. 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.879 And I just felt like that was a that was the way to get there. 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:20.240 And um, you know, of course we're not perfect, we're not there yet. 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:25.360 Uh, but we we got 3,000 kids and and gosh, 71 coaches. 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:30.240 So we're we're we're a little bit closer every day to to getting where we want to be. 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:31.360 That's great. 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.360 Let's let's talk about your coaching career. 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:50.320 Cause I'm so proud of you, what you did with your coaching, you know, and it and I know you and I talked when you decided to step away and be the athletic director and get administration, how hard that was for you, but you felt like it was it was the right thing for time with your kids, time with your wife, your health. 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.039 Tell me about what coaching meant to you. 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:57.039 And I know you're still coaching your kids. 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:06.799 Talk about transitioning from coaching to being an athletic director and and kind of those shared shared skills. 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:11.679 Gosh, I I heard somebody say this one time that it made a lot of sense. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:18.960 Take whatever job you have now and make and make it your dream job, make it into something that you will you want to be at a long time. 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:24.960 I remember when we first came here, and I say we because it wasn't me, it was it was candy, it was kids. 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:28.720 Uh Ava was one, Bryce wasn't born yet, but he was coming soon. 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.279 It was my coach's staff with my brother and uh our head coach basketball. 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.679 Now uh he played for me at another school, but we had we didn't have basketballs, you know. 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:42.720 You everybody's got their war stories where you don't have a ball rack, you don't have this that we didn't have any of that stuff. 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.919 Um it it was it was uh it was bad. 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.320 There was a reason I got the job, you know, at 26. 00:11:48.399 --> 00:12:03.039 There was a reason um, you know, with 1,500 kids enrolled in our school and just uh but it just it it took time and it was uh it was painful four or five years getting it going, and then it all started. 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.639 We just we got our youth league going. 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.679 We had about 700 kids in a youth league. 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.960 We had about 40 to 50 in middle school league. 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:20.240 So we just wanted to breed the love of basketball and just put it, you know, when we first came here, nobody was playing on the basketball courts in the neighborhood, so nobody. 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:30.480 And you know, we're it's exciting now to drive by and see those courts filled up, not because anything I did, but the team of people uh that we had, and uh it was just real special. 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:37.200 So um fast forward, you know, we we won a lot of games, we had a lot of success, but our kids were were really special. 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:44.320 And if I look back now and all the kids that've been through here and families and my family, it was just a it was a blessing. 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:54.320 But um, I've shared many of my struggles with you that I had during that time, and um not ashamed to say because I think we got to make our mess, our message. 00:12:54.480 --> 00:13:03.919 Um, you know, I passed out in the locker room uh after a loss, uh, went through some really hard times where I couldn't sleep, uh, anxiety driven. 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:09.519 Uh I want to win and and I want to win at a high level, and I still do, and it still irks me. 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:10.960 That's still a battle for me. 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.919 Um, so I loved it and still do. 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.799 Don't know what I would do if I wasn't coaching my kids for sure. 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:18.799 Yeah, well, you're so good at it. 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.960 You know, you you I think you were born to coach, you were born to and and not just on the basketball court. 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:41.759 I think you were born to be uh a coach and a leader and a teacher and a mentor, and you know, you you just you you bring a joy and a and an energy and a light to everything you do, and you know you're a role model to me because of that, you know. 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.080 And I know I know all about the sleepless nights. 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.000 We lost an ugly one last night, man. 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:59.600 And I'd still I still I have a cloud in my brain right now, trying to figure out how do I get their confidence back up and how do I get them

believing in themselves again and you know, and see this as a bump in the road. 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:09.600 And so how how how how is it for your coaches to know that they've got somebody like you that's been there and done that, been through all that? 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:14.240 I think it's good because most people we we made we did make some changes. 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:22.480 We get we got a you know, we got new a lot of new coaches for sure when when I kind of transitioned here over the years, but uh the good nucleus is still here from there. 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:23.840 And so they knew me then. 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:29.039 They knew um, they saw my strengths and weaknesses, and I think it's important too. 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:32.879 Like I'm I'm not maybe I I haven't figured out leadership for sure. 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:37.279 No, uh, but I'm not gonna be a fake person, I'm just me. 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:48.480 I'm Ryan Dyer, and um, you know, I got strengths, I got weaknesses, and just because my name says assistant principal and athletic director, that's not really that just tells you where my office is. 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:53.519 That's not really uh coordinates of who I am as far as my leadership uh philosophy. 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:56.000 So I think it's really important for them to know. 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:13.360 Like I always always tell them, um, you know, when things are good, we're gonna we're gonna be on the mountaintop together and we're gonna we're gonna enjoy the view and we're gonna have a good time, and it's gonna be, but man, when that branch breaks, uh as long as you're doing things right and ethically, and well, we're we're all gonna we're all gonna fall on that branch together. 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:14.240 That's great. 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.639 That's great, such a great message. 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:21.440 And you said my name is Ryan Dyer, but let's let's be clear, your name is Dr. 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:22.559 Ryan Dyer. 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:27.360 And I, you know, and it's it's one of my great prides. 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:39.120 And I I I you know, anybody that asks me about my former players, you're always the first one that comes to my head that you know, you you took your education very seriously and got your master's and then went and got your doctorate. 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:48.879 Talk about the challenge of that and what where you had to go mentally to to while you were coaching and you were administrator, and and you said, I'm gonna get this done. 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:49.600 It's important to me. 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.960 Where did that come from and what drove you through that? 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:58.720 Well, I'll I'll take you back to when I was in school, um, you know, at Maryville in St. 00:15:58.799 --> 00:15:59.759 Louis with you. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:02.639 Um, I know you wouldn't mention this, but I I will. 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:06.639 I I you pushed me

to, like I said, I didn't enjoy reading. 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:12.159 I remember you proofread one of my papers and butchered it, and I was mad at you. 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:19.919 And um, you know, and and then also, too, though, you you drew some you encouraged me to get help where I need to get help. 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:27.039 Um, there was some learning stuff that I needed to figure out on my own, and I was very stubborn and didn't want to get help and didn't want to do those things. 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:32.639 You know, I I was I always tease my kids because they're they get pulled out of school, out of the classrooms to go. 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:39.759 Uh they call it venture here where the where the smart kids, you know, my my two kids get reblessed and they take after their mom, they're smart. 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.639 Uh I was getting pulled out at a young age for a different reason. 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.600 Uh person we call it chapter one, the kids that couldn't read, you know, of course the fifth grade. 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:49.200 And I laugh about it now. 00:16:49.360 --> 00:17:00.399 Um, but I want my I really wanted my kids to see that man, dad is maybe not the smartest dude, but he reads like crazy, he listens to podcast books. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.759 Man, he he got his doctorate and he he's not very bright. 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:04.880 What what can I do? 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:11.039 And I wanted them to see those late nights and those early mornings, and and I wanted them to see all that. 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:30.319 Now, of course, uh financially and career-wise, it was it was a good move, but that was more to me a message to my kids to say, um, not look what I can do, but look what you can do with uh I always my one of my favorite words, two words are blue collar, just nothing real sexy, just uh just get up and work. 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:31.440 Yeah, yeah. 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.079 You know, the the book that I wrote was the same thing for me. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:51.759 It was something I didn't think I was capable of, and and the fact that I sat down and wrote that many words, and most of them make sense, and you know, it was purposeful, you know, it was really something I wanted my kids to see that I could start something and finish it. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.960 So, and I know if I sat down with Avan Bryce right now, they'd both tell me that you're the smartest guy they know. 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:58.319 So get that out of your head. 00:17:58.559 --> 00:17:59.440 Oh man, I don't know. 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:00.400 I don't know about later. 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:02.000 She might she might tell you something. 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.880 Well, tell me tell me tell me it from a coach's perspective. 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:10.319 What are you seeing? 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.359 Um, what are some of the good things you're seeing? 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.200 You're on the sidelines all the time. 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.079 All your sports, football, baseball, basketball, all of it. 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:28.799 Tell me what you're seeing that you really love now that you're doing in more of an observer role, watching coaches, now that you've been able to step away and get off the floor a little bit. 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:30.480 What are you seeing that you really like? 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.079 What are you seeing coaches do? 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.799 Not just your coaches, but in both sides. 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:36.880 Oh, I I love that you asked that question. 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:38.079 You you got some good questions. 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:42.720 I think I'll I'll take you back to our head football coaching interview for anybody who's listening. 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.559 Um you always told me this, and it's true. 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:48.559 You never know who's watching you. 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:49.839 Uh, and you can't fake it. 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.440 Like you just you just can't. 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:53.759 You're gonna you're gonna fail if you try to fake it. 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:58.799 Um but we interviewed a lot of different people, and I'll brag on our head football coach now. 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:05.920 Um the people we interviewed didn't know this at the time, but my wife and two kids were a part of the interview process. 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:07.599 This was uh four years ago. 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:12.799 And the last part of the interview process was they take them down to the field house. 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:17.920 Uh my wife drops her keys, uh, or whatever it was, I don't even remember at the time. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:23.920 And let's see if the person picks them up, picks the keys up and hands them back and is able to have good contact. 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:27.119 Well, nobody picks them up except the dude we hired. 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.480 And nobody looked my kids in the eye but the dude we hired. 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:36.559 Um, so I say all that to say I don't really think a ton has changed as far as intangibles go. 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:56.319 It's still the the little things like looking people in the eye, being an energy giver, not somebody who takes energy from the room, uh, being able to open the door for a for a woman, you know, all the things that old school principles, I I think we're getting lost a little bit in all the in all the new fancy, which I'm all into. 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:56.960 I'm a dork. 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:57.839 I love technology. 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:05.680 I'm all into all this stuff, but I think it's still everything rises and falls on leadership, uh, hard work, little things. 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:13.440 And I I I'm starting to see more people get back to that, get back to, you know, this is what works for us. 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:15.119 This is the this is the baseline. 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.920 So that's a

really boring answer, but that's a that's that's what I believe in my heart. 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:21.839 I don't think there's anything boring about it. 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:22.880 I think it's innovative. 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:30.559 I think it's really thinking about the authenticity auth authenticity of the people that you want to be around and you want coaching your kids. 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.359 So I I I love that you did that. 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.200 I love that that's a a priority for you when you're hiring. 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:42.799 Now, when you get that person on board, what what are you seeing that you like? 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:49.599 What are you seeing in how they plan their practices and they and they they nurture leadership? 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:53.839 Are you seeing things that get you excited and you want to share? 00:20:54.079 --> 00:21:07.279 Yes, it's uh it's uh one of my favorite things to do is go to practices and I and I really try to walk a tight line because I don't want to overstep, but at the same time, I I want to see what's going on, mostly because I just love it. 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:15.680 Um, I think the core core value that we hold as far as just to bring you on the court, for example, or on the field is player development. 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:20.880 And you know, like for basketball, for example, if you could can't put the ball in the hole, it's not gonna matter, you know. 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.640 Can are kids moving? 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:23.279 Are they active? 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:36.160 I know there's a there's an engagement piece and film and all that stuff that we gotta have, but our kids moving, you can go into practice and and and tell in 15 minutes what the culture is, and uh, you know, our kids being active. 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:43.279 And you it there's one thing you can't fake, and that's culture, and that's uh the living, breathing ethos of your entire program. 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:48.799 And I think uh so many coaches are doing a good job of feeding that every day. 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:55.279 And and one of the great things that you've done there at North Paula is you've created this youth basketball program. 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:59.039 You talked about it that nobody was playing basketball before, but let's put some numbers to it. 00:21:59.119 --> 00:21:59.759 You have over six. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.799 600 kids now in your youth program, right? 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:03.920 That are playing sports. 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:05.119 Oh, yeah, yes, sir. 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:07.519 Tell how how did that start? 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:08.960 How did you grow that? 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:10.640 How did you implement it? 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:14.559 Well, first way is I thought we're never gonna be successful. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.079 I knew it was gonna take a while to be successful, and it did. 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:26.000 Um, but we started seeing gains in three years because we wanted those kids to really get back to again, it goes to old school principles. 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:33.359 Um, we wanted kids to grow up wearing uh wearing Wolfpack stuff, so we wanted them to have not just uh parks and wreck or whatever. 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:50.559 Nothing, there's nothing wrong with that, but we wanted to brand it for us, and um nobody in our district had this going on, and we just thought, hey, what a better way for a kid to grow up than than wearing that stuff, and not only that, they're gonna start learning our offense and defense in second grade. 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:57.599 That sounds a little crazy, but um how you do anything is how you do everything, just just simple stuff, and everything builds on each other. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:58.960 So we just got after it. 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:00.240 It's kind of like being a salesman. 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:05.200 We started we started really cheap and and get people in and let them play on our court. 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.000 We and all of a sudden it blew year three. 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:10.720 We were at 400 kids, and it just uh it exploded. 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:15.839 It's a full-blown rec center now, um, as far as the leagues and all the stuff that they do. 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:21.759 And it it's uh it's really amazing because I can look back at both kids wearing those jerseys. 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:28.960 Uh, and now my daughter almost be in high school now, you know, playing hopefully uh you know at a high level and same for Bryce. 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.880 And um, it just took years. 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.039 And it's uh it was a great, you know. 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:46.559 I always told people, win or lose, if we if having a bad day, I always would go to we'd go to public, I just go to publics and get uh get a sandwich or something, and you would see people wearing uh North Pauline basketball and little kids coming up to you. 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:47.680 Uh nothing better. 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:49.519 That's great, that's really great. 00:23:49.599 --> 00:24:00.160 That's that's a big thing on my to-do list this this spring and summer is that we've got a good youth program, but I want to start really building it out where there's more teaching going on. 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:07.039 And um how much of your how many of your coaches are parents and how many of them are non-parents? 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.039 So the majority are parents because there's so many teams. 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.440 There's there's you're talking about 19 teams and in just third and fourth grade. 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:24.640 So uh the majority are the cool thing is we do have a lot of former players that'll go back and coach or or anybody who will just step in, neighbors, but they're just community members. 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:33.359 And now when you it's kind of weird, we have K through 12 uh youth league

basketball, and then we have six through or five through eight middle school. 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:34.240 So you can play both. 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:35.599 I mean, not both, I'm sorry. 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.680 You can try out for the middle school team, not make it. 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.559 That's another thing, and then go play uh youth. 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:41.759 So that's great. 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:48.559 There's always no matter what your skill level is, you can become a fan of basketball and uh show up at the games. 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:58.240 Now that you've been through all this as a as a college player and as a high school coach and now as an administrator, I'm gonna I want to pick your basketball coaching brain. 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:05.200 If you had to take over a program tomorrow, what would be the what would be your foundational things that you would want to teach? 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:12.240 What would what would be the things that you know you need to build to get that program growing quickly? 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:20.799 Well, the very first thing I think is just the is to get with the kids, the community, and and start building those relationships. 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:22.799 Start it it kind of depends. 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:28.720 You know, if I was at a place that I wanted to be for a long time, I I think I that's exactly where I'd start. 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:32.720 Um, I want people to know who I am and and more importantly, know who my family is. 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:38.640 My my wife was always the face of Northwality basketball in my mind, um, because she wanted to be. 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:38.960 Yeah. 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.119 Uh she don't care about that, but she just never missed games, she never missed anything. 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.880 Um, and same thing for now. 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:51.039 She's she comes to everything, kids, and I think that's where you start in my mind, community relationships. 00:25:51.200 --> 00:26:04.559 Um, you know, on the court, if I could go back in those early years, I was so driven to we're gonna guard you, we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, we're gonna hold you, we're gonna make sure you don't score, we're gonna be methodical. 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:11.119 I wish, and I got better at this as time went, um, of just working on things to help them. 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.839 I mean, just relate to basketball, let's put the ball in the hole. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:22.400 We are not gonna win if we can't score or we can't finish or we can't have just things if they could be better players, we're gonna win basketball games. 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:29.759 And I think that's I I wish I would have I was such a complex coach and I love studying and learning. 00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.599 Sometimes I did too much, and uh, that's what I respect about you. 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:39.119 You believe in the system and you're doing it, and that's and you're

gonna be great at it. 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:45.359 And it's it's very hard and complex, but um, I wish I would have had that pro approach. 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.079 Well, it's it took me a long time too, you know. 00:26:48.160 --> 00:27:06.000 I and I I'm on the other side where you know, where I'm teaching the system, but now I'm finding I got a bunch of guys that don't handle the ball very well, so anybody that presses us back, we haven't put enough time in teaching them how to handle that stress and how to handle that panic. 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:13.759 You know, we're 11 practices in and we're already two games in, and there's there's only so much time you have, and you have to prioritize. 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:25.599 But part of me is going back, going, gosh, you know, we put so much time into our man-to-man, but now we're pressing so much, and now teams are pressing us back, and we didn't do a good enough job of really developing those ball handlers. 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:32.559 Now, because of that, we're not getting the ball at the floor and getting into offense and secondary well enough to get good shots. 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.359 So I'm right back to where what you were talking about. 00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:41.200 So I'm going through the same thing right now, going, okay, how do I help these guys get the ball in the hole? 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:47.599 You know, we we can't afford for three guys to do all the scoring, we're not gonna win many games, you know. 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:50.079 So, how do you do that, coach? 00:27:50.160 --> 00:28:01.279 How do you how do you get how do you get your four, five, six, seven, eight guys figuring out, put them in a position where they could do the things that maybe they're not great at? 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.680 Yeah, that's a great question, man. 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:10.000 I think we'd all I I just think it goes back to be you want to be great at something. 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:10.400 Right. 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.599 You know, you want to you want to hang your hat on stuff, something. 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:24.319 Um, and you know, for me it was always uh toughness and attitude and belief and all those things, but on the core, I always just thought, what gives us the best chance to win? 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:35.920 And with the people that we have, and man, we would pour into those those kids and and try to I it's just like coaching to me, like role identification is so huge. 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:39.839 Like, and and it goes back to praise, like you started out the podcast. 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.759 How are we praising these kids who are four, five, six, seven, eight? 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:46.400 Um, and they're not scoring 25 a game. 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:51.200 What is are we giving them the same praise as this guy who's scoring 32? 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.920 Um, probably naturally not. 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:59.200 Um, just like we're not giving our custodians the same praise uh as our head football coach. 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.039 Uh naturally we're just not. 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:18.559 Uh, but the special people, the uncommon people have that built into them where they are they know that in order for this organization to reach its major goals and tap into the potential, everybody's got to understand how they're tied to the mission. 00:29:57.209 --> 00:29:58.089 That's so great. 00:29:58.169 --> 00:30:00.329 And you do such a good job of that too. 00:30:00.490 --> 00:30:24.089 And I love that, you know, our our custodians, our lunch, our the the the women and women that are in our lunchroom, the our security guards, um, it's you do such a good job of making sure they know how important they are to the success, the health, the relationships, the the personal growth of our kids. 00:30:24.250 --> 00:30:26.729 So you do such a good job of that. 00:30:27.209 --> 00:30:34.889 And do you do you find do you find when you include them that they're a little surprised by it? 00:30:35.129 --> 00:30:53.049 Yeah, no doubt they are, and you know, I think it's that same balance of you you've never met a bad dad who is worried about being a bad dad, like, or you've never met a bad husband, I don't think you could ask Candy, she can tell you different, but who's worried about being a bad husband. 00:30:53.209 --> 00:30:58.569 I every day when I walk in, my my my secretary will tell you anybody with I have a big man. 00:30:58.649 --> 00:31:00.969 If you talk about calendars and all that, that's my jam. 00:31:01.209 --> 00:31:06.089 But I'm task oriented, but at the very front top of my paper, I write the word people down. 00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:13.289 And every day I leave this office or this wherever I am, I feel like I fail every day, every day. 00:31:13.529 --> 00:31:30.089 And I just think that we we got to continue to do more, we gotta continue to do more, and no nobody's gonna remember what my record was, even though I will, and I loved it and I want it, but they will remember how I made them feel or how we as an organization made them feel. 00:31:30.329 --> 00:31:33.209 Yeah, yeah, that it's so true. 00:31:33.369 --> 00:31:38.169 And at the end of the day, writing down that word, people, what have I done? 00:31:38.329 --> 00:31:40.009 Have I have I made an impact? 00:31:40.250 --> 00:31:42.250 Did does everybody feel appreciated? 00:31:42.329 --> 00:31:53.129 It's such a great, a great mindset um for everything, not just not just leadership role, just how we treat people at Target or at Publix or at the grocery store. 00:31:53.209 --> 00:31:54.250 You know, it doesn't matter. 00:31:54.409 --> 00:31:57.209 So I love that you've continued to be that person. 00:31:57.769 --> 00:32:02.009 Uh I want to transition a little bit to your podcast because I just love your podcast. 00:32:02.169 --> 00:32:03.769 And I had so much fun being on it. 00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:05.449 I talked too way way too much.

00:32:06.569 --> 00:32:08.889 But your podcast is really great. 00:32:08.969 --> 00:32:11.129 Um, and the podcast is called Worth It. 00:32:11.369 --> 00:32:13.049 Um, and I want you to talk a little bit. 00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:23.209 I want to get into the details and all the great guests you've had, but let's let's talk about what your your you and your partner's focus is and why you're doing it. 00:32:23.529 --> 00:32:27.449 Because I think that's such a great message, and obviously it's close to your heart. 00:32:27.689 --> 00:32:35.369 Yeah, no, I I think the why behind it is two things is we uh the why behind we we want to help people. 00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:37.849 Um really don't, you know how it is. 00:32:37.929 --> 00:32:40.329 You don't I'm exhausted when I don't do anything. 00:32:40.409 --> 00:32:42.809 Like if I'm if I'm doing this with you, I get energy. 00:32:42.889 --> 00:32:47.529 If I I can't just sit around the house um and watch Netflix, I'm just not built for that. 00:32:47.609 --> 00:32:58.649 And and I think it all started from, you know, Andy Stanley, who's a who's a great leadership uh guru, says that you need to start with what breaks your heart and and do something about it. 00:32:58.809 --> 00:33:04.169 It breaks my heart that kids don't have hearing aids and uh they can't hear, can't afford it. 00:33:04.409 --> 00:33:12.329 So we started this with just uh just an open mind, open heart of hey, this is my burden, it's close to my family. 00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:18.490 Uh you know, we want to we want to make sure everybody has hearing aids, and um, that's how it started. 00:33:18.569 --> 00:33:22.089 And it started as well, what are we halfway decent at? 00:33:22.169 --> 00:33:24.409 Well, I think we are okay with leadership, let's get it going. 00:33:24.569 --> 00:33:26.809 And I think so many times I'm terrible at this. 00:33:26.969 --> 00:33:34.490 You you can ask anybody, I want everything planned out perfectly before I'm gonna start anything, including a workout, a diet. 00:33:34.649 --> 00:33:39.049 Uh, how many times have I asked you what you've been doing, you know, to lose all that weight and look good? 00:33:39.209 --> 00:33:42.250 Um, but we just need to start. 00:33:42.329 --> 00:33:48.809 Yeah, and I felt like it was on our heart to just get started, and uh, so that's where the the vision came from. 00:33:49.049 --> 00:33:50.250 Good, it's great. 00:33:50.409 --> 00:33:54.490 It's it's such a good I uh I'm a big, big fan of the show. 00:33:54.569 --> 00:34:07.609 It only had 22 episodes, but there was a show called Newsroom, and and one of the quotes in that show was, We just decided to, and that's a message I'm constantly sharing with my guys. 00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:10.889 You know, you're not filling up the scorebook. 00:34:11.130 --> 00:34:11.449 Okay. 00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:12.889 Well, what can you do? 00:34:12.969 --> 00:34:14.889 What do you know you can do well? 00:34:15.289 --> 00:34:19.530 And sometimes we just have to decide to do this, you know. 00:34:19.610 --> 00:34:29.050 From for me today, it was just I got to the gym this morning early, and I was like, I just gotta open the door and get out of the door because I was exhausted. 00:34:29.210 --> 00:34:36.650 But I knew if I didn't get on that treadmill for an hour and I didn't stretch and work on my shoulder exercises, I'm gonna be miserable in three days. 00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:40.409 You know, it's just that mindset, and you've got it. 00:34:40.490 --> 00:34:42.809 You know, it's I got I gotta take that next step. 00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:44.969 I gotta open the door and walk through it. 00:34:45.690 --> 00:34:46.010 Right? 00:34:46.329 --> 00:34:46.970 Yes, sir. 00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:47.690 Absolutely. 00:34:47.849 --> 00:34:48.490 Yeah, I love it. 00:34:48.650 --> 00:34:49.769 Your podcast is so good. 00:34:49.849 --> 00:34:52.010 Let's let's let's talk about your podcast. 00:34:52.170 --> 00:35:00.329 Look at the guests you've had Bruce Pearl, Brent Key, Josh Pastner, Mark Ryan, Rick, Garrison Hurst. 00:35:00.490 --> 00:35:03.530 What an amazing cast of coaches and athletes. 00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:05.210 And it goes on and on. 00:35:05.289 --> 00:35:08.490 How how are you getting these guests and how's it been talking to them? 00:35:09.769 --> 00:35:10.730 Gosh, you know what? 00:35:10.809 --> 00:35:14.170 I don't I wish I could say, like, man, I'm so well connected. 00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:21.370 We got it going on, you know, like it's just not light, it's just, you know, you never know until you ask. 00:35:21.530 --> 00:35:25.450 Yeah, and that's what my uh my parents used to tell me that. 00:35:25.530 --> 00:35:30.570 And uh I asked a lot, and um, I just same thing like for you. 00:35:30.650 --> 00:35:32.809 I contacted you, I want to play college basketball. 00:35:33.210 --> 00:35:35.210 And um, you know, I asked. 00:35:35.370 --> 00:35:38.170 I say, look, um you want to take a chance on me, I'm gonna work. 00:35:38.570 --> 00:35:40.490 Um, and you never know until you ask. 00:35:40.570 --> 00:35:50.730 And I just feel like uh, you know, through what through what I believe spiritually and through all the things that our families walk through that um we've we've been honored to to have those guys on. 00:35:50.809 --> 00:36:03.450 And I've really enjoyed um having all of them, but I really feel like they they want to give back, and that's what is the separator for them when they hear like this is why we're doing this. 00:36:03.690 --> 00:36:05.849 Most of them are like, Yeah, we're we're in. 00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:07.210 That's fantastic. 00:36:07.370 --> 00:36:09.210 Yeah, and the conversations are so good. 00:36:09.289 --> 00:36:11.050 You do such a good job. 00:36:11.289 --> 00:36:12.970 I walked away from our conversation. 00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:17.930 I was like, gosh, I need to go back and listen to it just to write down the questions and the flow of questions you

asked. 00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:19.450 You just did such a good job. 00:36:19.610 --> 00:37:04.370 And you know, when you when you have big guests, I mean, these are major division one coaches, you got NFL athletes, you know, and to get what you're getting out of them and get them to be engaged, it's really fun. 00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:09.970 If you if anybody's not listening to it, go download worth it because it's great, it's really, really good. 00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:11.170 Well, I appreciate that. 00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:12.690 Yeah, yeah. 00:37:13.010 --> 00:37:16.610 Coach, what's it what's a piece of advice? 00:37:16.850 --> 00:37:20.050 And I know you've got a lot of nuggets, and I know you read so much. 00:37:20.370 --> 00:37:29.890 Is there a piece of advice that you've gotten over the years that you're you find more times than not that you're giving, you're you're reciprocating to other people? 00:37:30.930 --> 00:37:37.650 Yeah, I I think that it's um for me, there's there's time to get better. 00:37:37.890 --> 00:37:41.490 Um, we are slammed in in this world. 00:37:41.570 --> 00:37:45.730 It it's all it's all taking our, you know, our world is absorbed. 00:37:45.810 --> 00:37:51.010 We're we're fast paced, but I think for me, the biggest separator for me is just being able to. 00:37:51.170 --> 00:37:56.050 I've always been a really hard worker, like I've always uh got that from my from my parents. 00:37:56.130 --> 00:37:57.330 I'm I'm gonna work. 00:37:57.570 --> 00:38:02.850 Um but there's there's these little times that you can separate yourself, you know. 00:38:02.930 --> 00:38:07.010 Like we're we're coming on Christmas right now, and that's a my favorite holiday. 00:38:07.090 --> 00:38:10.610 And but I'm looking at it as a chance. 00:38:10.930 --> 00:38:14.610 I know nobody's gonna be working out five days a week like I am. 00:38:14.690 --> 00:38:15.890 That's kind of my motto. 00:38:15.970 --> 00:38:19.250 I know nobody's gonna be reading like I'm gonna read over these next couple weeks. 00:38:19.330 --> 00:38:28.370 Um, I'm gonna spend time with my family and I'm gonna love it, but these are these little separator seasons where I'm gonna where I'm gonna make a difference and uh I'm gonna compete and get better. 00:38:28.610 --> 00:38:30.610 For example, this is my one of my favorites. 00:38:30.770 --> 00:38:43.170 Anytime I do things around the house, which I need to do more, uh, but I really I take a pride in trying to candy deserves a person who, no matter how busy they are, who's gonna take pride in helping her. 00:38:43.250 --> 00:38:58.290 And so if I'm unloading dishes, I got a I got a book on Audible, or I got a podcast plan, or uh if I'm folding laundry, I'm I'm either got a podcast book, same thing for a shower, um, or if I'm folding my kids, if I fold my kids' laundry, I need to do this more. 00:38:58.370 --> 00:39:00.930 I uh I pray for them as I'm folding their their clothes. 00:39:01.010 --> 00:39:07.650 Like there's

just there's these little hidden things in our throughout our day that we can do to separate ourselves. 00:39:07.810 --> 00:39:08.610 It's fantastic. 00:39:09.170 --> 00:39:11.330 That's really that's really it. 00:39:11.970 --> 00:39:13.410 And if you don't know Dr. 00:39:13.490 --> 00:39:20.610 Ryan Dyer and you're hearing all this, this is who he's been his entire life genuine golden heart. 00:39:20.770 --> 00:39:25.650 And if you meet his mom and dad, you'd know why, because they are very special people. 00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:33.970 Um, and and I've told this story all the time because Ryan called me to recruit him, and I'll I'll finish with this. 00:39:34.210 --> 00:39:36.530 And a couple days later, his mother called me. 00:39:37.890 --> 00:39:38.930 And and I'm in St. 00:39:39.090 --> 00:39:43.010 Louis, and you know, I've I I have my own Midwestern accent. 00:39:43.250 --> 00:39:47.730 And this woman called and said, Coach Rogers, this is this is Angie Darr. 00:39:48.610 --> 00:39:52.050 I said, Angie Dar, Angie Dar, who's Angie Dar? 00:39:52.770 --> 00:39:54.450 And and I go, Yes, ma'am. 00:39:54.770 --> 00:39:57.170 She goes, You talked to my son yesterday. 00:39:57.410 --> 00:39:59.010 And I go, I did, ma'am. 00:39:59.410 --> 00:40:01.410 She goes, Yes, Ron Darr. 00:40:02.290 --> 00:40:03.810 You don't remember talking to him? 00:40:04.690 --> 00:40:06.690 And I said, ma'am, I'm so sorry. 00:40:06.770 --> 00:40:19.490 Because we I grew up, I grew up and we had really close friends that were a couple towns away that my dad barbered with another guy, and then we we can't we went camping with this family, and their son's name was Ron Durr. 00:40:20.130 --> 00:40:24.210 I was like, why would somebody be calling me about Ron Durr? 00:40:24.690 --> 00:40:33.090 And and it took me about five, 10 minutes, and your poor mother, you know, she kept going, well, Coach Rogers, Ron told me he talked to you yesterday. 00:40:33.250 --> 00:40:33.650 Oh, yeah. 00:40:33.810 --> 00:40:36.530 I go, which who did I talk to yesterday? 00:40:36.610 --> 00:40:37.490 And then it hit me. 00:40:37.570 --> 00:40:39.090 She's saying Ryan died. 00:40:40.450 --> 00:40:40.930 That's it. 00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:43.330 I was like, Oh, I said, Angie, I'm so sorry. 00:40:43.410 --> 00:40:44.210 I love your son. 00:40:44.290 --> 00:40:46.130 I just had a blast talking to him. 00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:49.090 And he goes, He's got his film and he can shoot it. 00:40:49.410 --> 00:40:50.690 Oh, can he shoot it? 00:40:50.930 --> 00:40:53.570 And uh, and that was my introduction to your mother. 00:40:53.650 --> 00:40:57.970 So the fact that she let you come play for me after that was pretty amazing. 00:40:58.130 --> 00:41:00.930 So yeah, that sounds like her calling calling my coaches. 00:41:01.090 --> 00:41:02.690 Yep, that sounds like yeah, yeah. 00:41:02.770 --> 00:41:04.450 No, she's she's great. 00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:09.170 And uh, you know what's funny is we we make fun of

you, man. 00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:12.770 We'll we go through we should I shouldn't tell people this, but I will, you can edit it out. 00:41:12.850 --> 00:41:15.330 Uh we'll go through Taco Bell every once in a while. 00:41:15.410 --> 00:41:18.610 I'll I'll I won't partake in eating that stuff, but my kids will. 00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:23.890 And uh, you know, we'll we'll I'll I'll say, Can I please do my northern accent like Coach Rogers? 00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:26.530 And they're like, Oh, let's get them, let's go. 00:41:26.690 --> 00:41:27.890 And it's pretty freaking good. 00:41:27.970 --> 00:41:32.130 I'm not gonna lie to you, but uh, but yeah, we we you get it back, don't worry. 00:41:32.290 --> 00:41:33.170 Oh, I hope so. 00:41:33.330 --> 00:41:34.050 I hope so. 00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:34.610 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:34.770 --> 00:41:37.250 I love I love I love the accent. 00:41:37.490 --> 00:41:40.610 I it's funny, people make fun of me. 00:41:40.690 --> 00:41:42.530 Uh you know, that's why I have to tell my kids. 00:41:42.610 --> 00:41:43.970 I go, we have an accent too. 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:44.850 You just don't hear that. 00:41:44.930 --> 00:41:45.730 Yeah, exactly. 00:41:45.810 --> 00:41:46.770 Right, yeah, yeah. 00:41:46.930 --> 00:41:49.010 Hey, you I'm telling you, it used to be really strong. 00:41:49.090 --> 00:41:57.330 It's still not great, but uh yeah, it is uh I will never forget going to school there, and people looking at me like, what who is this dude? 00:41:57.490 --> 00:42:01.010 He's uh yeah, that was that was the greatest thing ever. 00:42:01.570 --> 00:42:03.010 They all fell in love with you, too. 00:42:03.090 --> 00:42:06.370 Everybody loved you, yeah, we loved your sweetheart. 00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:07.890 It was a blast. 00:42:08.290 --> 00:42:12.530 Well, give um Candy and Ava and Bryce a big hug for me. 00:42:12.610 --> 00:42:15.810 Give your mom and dad a hug for me, give Kip and his family a hug for me. 00:42:15.890 --> 00:42:17.010 I miss all of you. 00:42:17.170 --> 00:42:18.450 I'm so proud of you. 00:42:18.530 --> 00:42:19.730 I love you to death. 00:42:19.890 --> 00:42:34.450 I mean, anybody that's down there in Georgia has got an opportunity to come witness your program and witness your leadership and witness your your love of people and and all that you do. 00:42:34.690 --> 00:42:36.290 It's really impressive, my friend. 00:42:36.370 --> 00:42:37.410 I'm so proud of you. 00:42:37.650 --> 00:42:38.370 Well, I appreciate it. 00:42:38.610 --> 00:42:40.850 Got a long way to go, but I'll tell you what, I don't know where I'd be. 00:42:40.930 --> 00:42:43.250 I tell the people this all the time without you. 00:42:43.410 --> 00:42:45.570 And um, it just takes one person. 00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:47.490 I just believe anybody who's listening. 00:42:47.570 --> 00:42:49.330 If it affects one person, it's worth saying it. 00:42:49.410 --> 00:42:51.890 It just takes one person to believe in somebody else. 00:42:52.450 --> 00:42:53.810 It just really does. 00:42:54.130 --> 00:42:56.450 Well, I've always believed in you and I always will. 00:42:56.610 --> 00:43:00.930 And I I just I'm glad you're taking all of my weaknesses and turning them into strengths. 00:43:01.090 --> 00:43:02.130 So I appreciate that. 00:43:02.370 --> 00:43:04.530 Oh well, Coach, you're the best, and I sure love you. 00:43:04.690 --> 00:43:05.410 All right, brother. 00:43:05.490 --> 00:43:06.210 Have a good one. 00:43:06.290 --> 00:43:10.610 And if I don't talk to you here in the next couple weeks, have a Merry Christmas and a happy holiday. 00:43:10.690 --> 00:43:12.130 But I'm sure we'll talk before then. 00:43:12.370 --> 00:43:12.930 Yes, sir. 00:43:13.090 --> 00:43:13.730 Thank you so much. 00:43:13.890 --> 00:43:15.810 Good luck with the rest of your seasons, okay? 00:43:15.970 --> 00:43:16.450 Yes, sir. 00:43:16.530 --> 00:43:17.090 Thanks, Coach. 00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:17.810 Bye, buddy. 00:43:18.130 --> 00:43:18.450 See ya. 00:43:22.690 --> 00:43:32.370 What a great young man and what a great role model for anybody that wants to reach their full potential. 00:43:32.450 --> 00:43:35.890 Uh, I talk a lot about the Bradley Cooper movie. 00:43:35.970 --> 00:43:37.730 Um, I think it's called Limitless. 00:43:38.770 --> 00:43:43.330 He takes a drug and it unlocks his brain and he can do anything he wants. 00:43:43.490 --> 00:43:44.690 He's able to remember everything. 00:43:44.770 --> 00:43:46.930 He's able to be his best version of himself. 00:43:47.170 --> 00:43:58.450 And I and I really think about Ryan Dyer when I think about that movie, when I think about what an individual can do for themselves if they just decide to. 00:43:58.690 --> 00:44:09.730 You know, this this was a young man that always had a big heart, always cared about everyone, huge family man, great parents, great brother, just a great family. 00:44:09.890 --> 00:44:13.650 Um he's the epitome of how you recruit. 00:44:13.810 --> 00:44:20.530 You know, I didn't always make the right decisions when I recruited, but I made the right decision with him because I recruited his whole family. 00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:23.250 And I boy did it, was it worth it? 00:44:23.410 --> 00:44:31.250 Um, and no pun intended, because that's the name of his podcast, worth it, and you should check it out because he's got great guests, as you heard me talk about. 00:44:31.490 --> 00:44:35.730 But love Ryan, um, so proud of him, and I hope you enjoyed it. 00:44:35.810 --> 00:44:49.010 Um, hopefully his character and his his love for life and his love for people oozed out of him, and you heard all that because uh it's real, it's authentic, and he's just a tremendous person. 00:44:49.090 --> 00:44:50.290 And and I look up to him. 00:44:50.370 --> 00:44:55.810 He kept saying that I was a role model for him, but let me tell you, he's a role model for me, and I love him to death. 00:44:55.890 --> 00:44:57.490 So I hope you enjoyed Ryan Dyer. 00:44:57.730 --> 00:44:58.610 I know I did. 00:44:58.770 --> 00:45:08.050 Um, keep an eye on North Pauldine High School, he's running an amazing athletic program there, and it really should be a vision for all high school athletic directors. 00:45:08.690 --> 00:45:17.810 It is how every athletic department should be run, how you treat your people, how you treat your kids, how you promote them, how you celebrate them, and he does it right. 00:45:17.970 --> 00:45:19.090 So thank you, Dr. 00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:23.490 Dyer, for giving me your time, and and uh we'll be cheering for you. 00:45:23.650 --> 00:45:25.490 Thanks everybody for listening in. 00:45:25.730 --> 00:45:28.930 Got great guests coming up the road here next Friday. 00:45:29.090 --> 00:45:33.890 Um, I know I talked earlier in the first couple episodes that I was gonna do it twice a week. 00:45:34.130 --> 00:45:36.050 My schedule just isn't gonna allow me. 00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:40.370 So we're gonna record and get you a new podcast every Friday. 00:45:40.450 --> 00:45:52.210 So you'll have the Be Significant podcast with my um lovely co-host Beth Cook on Mondays, and you're gonna have the significant coaching with me and another great coach every Friday. 00:45:52.370 --> 00:45:53.810 And do check out my blog. 00:45:53.890 --> 00:45:56.290 I'm gonna I write a new blog every Wednesday. 00:45:56.450 --> 00:45:59.410 So you're gonna get sick of me eventually, but I hope not. 00:45:59.570 --> 00:46:07.250 I'm gonna try and just put really good content out there uh so you can keep getting better as a coach, as a parent, as a student athlete. 00:46:07.410 --> 00:46:10.210 So Monday's just gonna be Be Significant Podcast. 00:46:10.370 --> 00:46:17.570 Wednesday's gonna be the blog of significance, so you can see some of my writing and hear the thoughts that I'm dealing with as a coach and as a parent. 00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:25.090 And then Friday, I'm gonna bring you a great coach uh to talk about coaching and leadership and mentoring and recruiting and all those great things. 00:46:25.170 --> 00:46:26.850 So hope you enjoyed, Ryan. 00:46:27.010 --> 00:46:27.890 Have a great week. 00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:30.370 I'll look forward to talking to you next time.