บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Topic: The Evil Dead CoHost: John Paul Edmundson

according to what I could find, it appears to have only made$2.9 million in theaters. 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:54.240 Yeah. 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:58.159 Uh directed and written by the master Sam Rainey. 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:02.159 This movie has been reprinted and overprinted and triple printed. 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:08.879 So this there, there are so many pressons of this movie that I'm sure he has made his bet money back in DVD sales alone. 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:10.719 With just Necronomicon editions. 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:10.960 Yeah. 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:15.840 Like there's this is a sec, this is one of those ancillary markets where you make your money. 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:21.680 I have a I have a little Nefrochronomicon that I use as like a prop for uh like my comedy. 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:22.639 Like I use it for Dr. 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.480 Schadenfreud, it's in his his briefcase. 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:24.879 Yeah. 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:26.879 It's um like I pull it out. 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:36.399 I I know the little the the con the I have the the the the verphonetics written out of uh the thing you read to start the next it's a fun thing, which is like, oh I love it. 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:38.399 Would you like to read this contour? 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:40.399 Or whatever. 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:46.240 See, now I want you to be like, oh, you know, before I continue on, uh let me review my notes from recently. 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:47.600 I didn't play it as tape player. 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:48.720 That is fun, yeah. 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:50.160 I need to get a tape player for it. 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:57.360 But no, uh in case uh burnout hijing viewers, uh Topher has been a guest before on our show, but he this is uh his own podcast. 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:04.399 We're once again we're simulcasting uh with his podcast, Shadows That Shine, which is a movie podcast, which you heard already in the intro. 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.959 I just remembered that I should probably do that. 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:23.360 Burnout is more of like a variety sort of podcast, but like you tend to mostly center around interviewing comedians, we typically comedians talk to comedians and talking about just regular stuff, just normal, yeah, just like whatever, like with a comedy stint to it. 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.360 Uh we focus on being funny. 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.439 Um like object uh that's subjective. 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:33.199 Uh but um we've been we've like branched out like this actually uh this Halloween special we're doing. 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:34.560 I'm actually going to do tonight. 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:40.480 I'm gonna record a little bit of gameplay with uh one of our other co-hosts, Willis Madden, and we're gonna put that at the end of it. 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.360 So it's gonna be like a big Halloween package. 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:50.160 I'm gonna put a big Halloween package out, and I'm I might

be too ambitious because I have to have all the editing done before tomorrow at noon. 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:52.319 John Paul and his big packages. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:54.079 Yeah, I have a huge, huge trousers. 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:55.519 I should have worn my trousers snake. 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:56.399 It's in my car. 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.439 Um, but the Evil Dead, I love the Evil Dead so much. 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.160 This is uh Bruce Campbell's not first film. 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.079 Do you know what his first film was? 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:06.160 Um no. 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.879 In the woods, directed by Sam Raimi. 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:18.000 Um yeah, in the woods was the they so the story of this movie is they originally him and I believe him and Sam Raimi met in film school. 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:18.720 Could be wrong. 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:19.519 They've known each other. 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:26.560 Bruce Campbell, I did read that Bruce Campbell and and uh Sam Raimi are childhood friends I met in high school. 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:27.680 Yes, okay, there you go. 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:28.000 Correct. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:35.839 Mine's in middle school, but that and that's why Ted Raimi is in everything too, like that's Sam Raimi does, because they've been making movies since they were small little babbies. 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:44.240 Um and Bruce Campbell apparently also is good at filmmaking, but he's the only one that like he's the they were like, well, yeah, but you have to. 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:45.600 He's the only handsome one amongst them. 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:50.560 Yeah, because you have Bruce Campbell and Bruce Campbell's chin and the Raimi brothers. 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.560 And I don't know if you've seen the Raimi Brothers, no offense, amazing directors. 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.920 Sam Raimi or Ted Raimi is a great like character actor. 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.759 He does great character bit like bit parts. 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:02.079 When you see Ted Raimi in a movie, oh shit. 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:04.560 Sam, I think Sam kills him in a lot of his movies. 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:10.959 Um, but you know, that when you guys see John Paul in one of my movies, now you're gonna know why he's in it. 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:12.560 No, no, I keep getting cold. 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:19.759 The viewers of our podcast know that uh I can say this actually, no, that none of our our hosts who knew it shit on me are here. 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.040 Uh yeah, I uh I've been getting a lot of compliments lately, and it's gross. 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:28.000 Um I've been doing special episodes all uh week for the spooky season. 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:37.439 Yeah, and we had Zach Blackfire on, and we covered the it franchise, and we definitely talked about you just that's why that's why our Halloween schedule is bucked because we couldn't get together. 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.319 But we're

also doing uh double booked with me and I got priority. 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:45.279 We're also doing well, we're doing fan fanfest has Zach's priority for this. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:46.720 That makes sense, too. 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:48.399 That's pretty cool that you guys did that. 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:49.759 Have y'all seen the clips? 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:52.959 He stares into the camera and asks someone that can't answer. 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:53.600 Yeah. 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:58.319 Um, but the the our clip no, uh, but fanfest is gonna be that's gonna be interesting. 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.079 But the okay, so Bruce Campbell, yeah. 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.480 Bruce Campbell was the uh the the face, I guess. 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:05.120 Like he's the champion, and then it's the face of the franchise. 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.360 Yeah, and then like literally I don't watch Evil Dead movies or anything Evil Dead associated without Bruce Campbell. 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:12.560 I tried, it's not good. 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:14.000 I don't I don't like it. 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:15.279 I heard the last one was good though. 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.759 It's gore porn, it's all gore porn, yeah. 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:19.120 But that that has its place. 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:26.319 I like Evil Dead because now this first one is not as much. 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.720 This first one is like a a straight up horror movie. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:32.720 Into the woods is kind of more of a straight up, it's the same movie, but low budget. 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:42.000 I thought I don't mean interject here, but the evil dead, me going into it, I had always heard it was comedy. 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:46.240 So I'm like, oh no, this is a filmmaker stretching his legs, yeah. 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.799 No, and really trying to scare the shit out of people and doing some very effective things. 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.039 For sure, because the first one is a straight up horror movie. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.120 Uh, he starts it off as a straight up horror movie. 00:08:55.279 --> 00:09:03.279 The second one is where he stretches, he really stretches and is like, that's where he takes his Sam Raimi, like that's where he starts blending in his horror comedy. 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:31.600 Sam Raimi is the greatest horror comedy director to me, just because his sensibilities for horror lead so well into comedy, like just like the angles he uses, like his zooms, like it's all like if you just put like the put put silly music over Evil Dead and tell me it's not a laugh riot, like the same movie that you're watching, but just like see, I think the Dutch angle works great for creating tension and unease. 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.120 So you're right about music, but that's just the power of music. 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:40.080 Yeah, like it is just as easy for that film to be scary as it is for it to be silly. 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:40.480 Yeah. 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.440 Well, I'm I've still never seen any other evil dead movies. 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:45.039 Also throw in funny sound effects. 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:46.480 Okay, throw in some funny sound effects. 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:47.759 His timing is really good. 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:57.600 Like, and also Bruce Campbell, like Bruce Campbell's not as like honestly, in the first one, he's not even like he doesn't even feel like the lead until like he's forced to be the lead. 00:09:57.679 --> 00:09:58.879 Like the other guy feels like the lead. 00:09:58.960 --> 00:09:59.600 I don't remember his name. 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.240 I can never but that's good because it's the bait and switch. 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.240 Yeah, he's the final, he gets to be the final girl. 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:06.240 Yeah, you know, this is what I say 81? 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:08.720 Bait and switch wasn't happening back then. 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.919 Yeah, and it was so it was very ahead of its time. 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:13.200 And he's the awkward guy. 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.519 He gives this girl like the shitty thing that they found. 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:21.600 I want to say that like necklace, the iconic shitty necklace that he gives to Linda is like from like a dollar store. 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.240 It's a magnifying, it's a fucking magnifying glass. 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:32.240 Like, it's not a necklace, it's it's a reading lens for an old lady that they treat as like the sacred item and totem. 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:37.440 It's in every movie, like it's like a special thing, but it's something that's like, yeah, we got that from the dollar store. 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:38.240 Like on our way. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:42.080 We just needed a necklace for you to, we needed something from you know, it's like you got Bruce Campbell. 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:43.360 Is that really what he sounds like? 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:45.440 Uh uh uh Sam can Sam Campbell. 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:46.320 Yeah, Sam Media. 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:51.039 And then you got Bruce Campbell who's like, oh yeah, it's some shitty thing Sam got at the dollar store. 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.679 This fucking guy, I can't do Bruce Campbell for my pod. 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:58.720 Can can we get uh speaking of impressions of great directors, can we? 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.120 Yeah, when I saw Evil Dead, yeah. 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.919 All right, let me tell you, Evil Dead was a movie. 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.080 I first of all I saw it in cinema. 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.759 All right, I saw it on film. 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:11.440 That's the only way you can watch this movie, yeah. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.840 I I also went to watch the movie. 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.559 I said I would never work with animals again. 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.200 George and I went to see it together. 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.240 He was my student

before I directed his movie. 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:24.799 Oh, yeah. 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.480 I also went to go see the movie. 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.200 I I saw I saw The Evil Dead. 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:30.480 It was a fantastic film. 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:38.879 We have to find somebody that does a George Lucas impression because both the directors that we do impressions of um have had meetings with George. 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.519 My David Lynch is much louder. 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:42.879 I've forgotten. 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:44.960 He has to be much more. 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:50.480 I just my David Lynch impression is just David Lynch from uh Twin Peaks. 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.039 And I've character in Twin Peaks. 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:53.600 Wow. 00:11:53.840 --> 00:12:02.720 I was doing uh an impression of the director from Star Wars episode five, uh, whose name suddenly escapes me, even though David not David Katsenberg. 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:03.360 No, no, no. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.480 Normally I know it, and I'm just always David Kettenberg. 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:12.879 I have a lot on my head because this is uh actually a time that I need to announce this. 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:22.240 Uh the spooky season was supposed to have a new episode every single day this final week of October, including uh November 1st. 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.080 Black and orange microphone covers for the holidays. 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:34.320 But right before we hit record for today's uh recording session, I got a phone call and I'm being flown. 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.080 Somebody got a little phone call. 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:39.840 I think it's Utah, and I'm going to perform as Ed Gean. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.399 So I have to modify my schedule now. 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:43.600 Like Jill. 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:45.039 Can you hear me? 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.840 I don't mean to drag, but I'm a professional performer. 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:48.960 What's the pay? 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:50.080 Thank you so much. 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:50.799 Very good. 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.240 I'm gonna say it on the air, but you're booking the tickets, darling. 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.799 Oh marvelous beer. 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:03.759 It was the most gangster shit ever because I look up to even though John Paul's younger than me, I look up to him. 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.279 And um weird wise. 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:12.639 He he is taller than me, but I also physically you have to, but yeah, but the only reason anybody looks up to me is because they have to, because I'm Paul. 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:16.960 He heard the whole conversation because I didn't know that that's what it was gonna be. 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:17.679 Yeah, that was neat. 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.200 I was like, well, that's what it's like to be a professional and get paid for stuff. 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:22.240 I was just like, damn. 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:23.600 It definitely helped. 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:29.360 No, I'm too, I'm I know that I'm too unreliable and scatterbrained to do stuff professionally, I think. 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:30.399 That's what keeps me back. 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:31.679 And I've known this for years. 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.799 The only thing that's consistent in my life is Jack and JP's burnout hijinks. 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:35.200 Burn out. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.000 I can't even keep the name consistent, it's burnout hijinks. 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:42.080 But no, Zach was like, are we we could maybe this is the sign to go to bi weekly? 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:42.879 And I was like, no. 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:44.879 He keeps saying that I'm not a fucking pussy, dude. 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.399 You know what I told him to do? 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.039 What I'm doing, batching episodes. 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:50.080 You know what I told him? 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:51.440 I told him, shut the fuck up. 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.200 We can get the episode done every week. 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:53.759 Do it. 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:55.200 Even if I just gotta play Vinci games. 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:58.639 If it's got to become a let's play channel for like a couple weeks, whatever. 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:00.960 You could do what I'd do and have multiple formats. 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:06.480 Yeah, I mean like preferred format, which is when you have a co-host, and then you have the secondary format. 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:08.559 That is my my plan. 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.720 Like that's what we're doing with the whole burnout hijinks thing. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.080 That's why we introduced um playing video games with a guest. 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:14.720 That's right. 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:19.120 You're gonna see that here later on the episode of this one. 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.679 That if uh if you're watching this on the Burnout Hijinx, you'll be seeing at the end of this Halloween episode. 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:24.799 Well, let me ask you this. 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:31.919 Just to get back on track for the movies, uh, so that my listeners don't get mad at me. 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:40.000 Um do you watch a movie like The Evil Dead and say, I'm hungry to do this? 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:48.480 I want to make a uh horror film or even a comedy film nitty-gritty like this, just passion driven. 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.960 Does it ignite that passion in you to do that? 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:58.159 No, it ignites me to do the voices and be silly. 00:14:58.320 --> 00:14:59.919 Like honestly, I don't I don't know. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:06.320 I've never seen a movie that's made me be like, I want to do movies, and I think that's why it's never gotten me I don't do it. 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:16.720 Uh I mean that's not even true, because like I see the movies that I want to do are all animated, and I would love to do interesting, but a

lot of the people who do the animated stuff, uh you know, you have to do I I don't know. 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.240 Like I'm trying to think of a movie that's Evil Dead would be one. 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:29.200 I'll tell you, I did walk out of Evil Dead going, I am hungry again to make a movie after not wanting to make one for a while. 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:29.759 I get that. 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:42.720 No, I I I get like my ambitions go and come, and I really hate it because like I can see how it does, I can see where it would ignite the passions, like I can see the inspiration to it. 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:44.639 I can see what is inspiring about it. 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:50.159 I can watch Bruce Campbell's performance and be like, that is a performance that is fun. 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.879 Um, but then watching this one, you know that it's like this is like a stepping stone. 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:59.039 These are all like baby, like fledgling, everybody's learning as they're doing it. 00:15:59.120 --> 00:15:59.679 It's super fun. 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:05.440 Like, what is like a I think one of the things that they have is like color, food, dye, and syrup is their their blood for this movie. 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:10.480 Like, you know, what is yeah, but or like chocolate syrup, yeah. 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:14.000 No, it's like chocolate syrup because they didn't have like it was bad. 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.559 Oh, yeah, they they had something that they ran out of. 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:20.720 I was reading a bunch of notes about the movie, and there's a lot of information. 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.120 Some of it, some of it contradicts. 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:23.919 Yeah, dude. 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:25.919 Anytime Bruce Campbell's real weird. 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:32.559 Anytime you see something of Bruce Campbell getting hit, uh, just know that he has done that shot ten times. 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:32.720 Okay. 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.240 Um they did a bunch of shim shots in it. 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:42.559 Uh this movie did the one the first POV shot, too, things, isn't it? 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:46.320 Like where it's like the POV that no, that was that has been a thing before. 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:46.720 Okay. 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:51.600 Uh Black Christmas and they're the first ones who strapped the to a board and then ran it through the woods, okay. 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.679 Yeah, I'm sure that's yeah, that's that's true. 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.039 I'm 100% that's true because they were just like, yeah, we took a two by four. 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:05.920 Damn, I just realized Sam Raimi is like like a less bitchy David Lynch, my impression is like a less less David Lynchy David Lynch. 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.400 But yeah, we took a two by four and we just ran it through the wood. 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:09.200 Okay, there we go. 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:10.960 He's like, I think he's got a lith, too.

00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:12.640 So we'll just we'll just throw a lith on it. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:14.640 I haven't heard him, but I'm sure that this is brilliant. 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:16.559 We'll just throw a different kind of voice to it. 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:23.680 But I feel like the genre, it's it's it has a lot of slasher tendencies, but it's it's like a supernatural slasher. 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:24.640 Yeah, it's demonsher. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:25.519 And there's not a lot of that. 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:26.079 It's fun. 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:27.920 Yeah, it's a demon slasher movie. 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:33.119 Like what I like too, though, is that the slasher is the the protagonist. 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.279 The slasher in the movie is the like the person with the weapons. 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:38.079 Like, it's us. 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.920 Like, well, at first, kind of. 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:41.680 Well, no, that's more than the second one. 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:42.079 Never mind. 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:42.640 God, okay. 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:44.000 This is my this is my issue as well. 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:45.759 I was gonna say, like, for me, getting my wires crossed. 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.759 This is one of those people go in the woods and do something stupid. 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:51.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:17:51.200 --> 00:18:03.279 Because this is more the Evil Dead remake, does kind of like just the straight up like that's the only one of those that I do like that doesn't have Bruce Campbell, and even that one does have Bruce Campbell at the end of it because he comes at the end and says groovy. 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.400 But god, or something like that. 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:14.960 But I don't know, that's like the quintessential story, but with the gore bound up because it is just two couples go in the woods. 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.440 Is it two couples or three? 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:18.880 It's two couples with a sister. 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:19.920 His sister is also there. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:21.359 There's a third tag-along girl, I think. 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:22.480 Because I was like, there's three girls. 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.640 Yeah, because his sister's also along, and then because she's like the third wheel. 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:34.400 That's why his sister goes out into the woods and gets things happen to his sister, you know, and it's just like, and that's why there's still two girls because she gets killed. 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.480 I I it's it's all very, very I don't know. 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:44.720 It's uh how soon till is it though, till we get to the Lady Chain in the Basement? 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.039 Like we've got the dead body. 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:47.759 I don't remember. 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.240 I should point out, I watched the movie two months ago. 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.880 Yeah, I did not watch it fresh for this podcast. 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.319 This is bad because you were driving the plot forward. 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:57.119 Fuck me, dude. 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:03.839 I'm saying this is this we're reversing today because I'm more of like this are my impressions of what you watch. 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:07.920 And I have a bad brain, and I'm mixing up and you're the expert on the subject. 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:14.799 I'm the expert on the subject, but I'm also definitely the reverse of where I'm mixing up is Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness. 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:15.759 Because a fun fact is. 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.640 Someone said Army of Darkness is the best of the three. 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:19.839 I think I might have said that. 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.839 I think Evil, I think Army of Darkness is the best of it. 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:24.079 It's by far the most fun. 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:25.920 Uh, two is the best made movie. 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:27.279 I two is the best movie. 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:33.440 You know, my hesitation to watch two is that I liked one so much, and I I know that two makes it camp. 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:35.680 Do you know what the best and I'm worried about that? 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:36.559 Camp is good. 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.119 When Bruce Campbell is allowed to be Bruce Campbell, it's so good. 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:39.920 He's so much better. 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.160 I mean I'm gonna try it because you guys are saying it. 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:49.839 What I'm telling you is that Evil Dead one, two, and Army of Darkness are not the best Evil Dead franchise things. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:51.839 Uh Ash vs the Evil Dead is the best. 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:53.119 That's the TV series. 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:54.160 That's the T Vol series. 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:54.640 Yep. 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:58.240 Um That's the best uh that's the best Evil Dead thing, in my opinion. 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:10.640 Um spe speaking of Bruce Campbell, yeah, the reason that this podcast came, this episode came to be for my podcast, is the announcement of Bruce Campbell uh having cancer. 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:12.799 Knocking, knock, knocking on death's door. 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:14.160 Yeah, and he's not gonna fight it. 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.599 He's like, uh you know, if you have cancer or you don't. 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:27.200 Like I think he said, like specifically, I'm trying to remember the wording he used, is like some people get cancer and they fight it, and some people get cancer and they don't, and I'm not gonna fight it. 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.680 Like he's just like gonna see I respect him for that. 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:32.160 Yeah, he's lived his life, he lived a great life. 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:33.680 He's still doing interviews and stuff. 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:38.000 I don't think he's doing much acting anymore, but like you know, he's oh he's retired from acting. 00:20:38.319 -->

00:20:40.960 Yeah, but he's and he's officially retired from the franchise. 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:43.839 He's still as Bruce Campbell as Bruce Campbell can be, which I love. 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:44.880 Uh but that is very sad. 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:49.440 But it is it had inspired me to watch the movie because I'd always heard good things about the person. 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:50.880 He's such a good dude, too. 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.279 Like he's always seemed like such a nice, nice man. 00:20:53.440 --> 00:21:01.119 Yeah, I had always heard really good things from like he would come up in a conversation with people that I knew that that had met him or knew him. 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.200 Like, he is the B movie actor. 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.359 Like to me, he is the B movie. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:12.240 Like, he is like if you think of if there is a fucking S class B list actor, Bruce Campbell is the number one. 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:14.319 Like, you've got Bruce Campbell and then Nathan Filion. 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:15.920 Nathan Filion is right under Bruce Campbell. 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:20.160 Because Nathan Fillian is Bruce Campbell is the B guy for horror. 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.799 Nathan Filion is the B guy for sci-fi shit. 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.519 Wouldn't Robert England also be on the B guy? 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:26.240 No, he's not. 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.839 Robert England is right under, he's right there under Bruce for me. 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:34.880 Like to me, yeah, Bruce, because Bruce is so Bruce. 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:36.960 God, like, because Robert England does characters. 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.240 Robert England, like Bruce Campbell is Bruce Campbell's. 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:41.599 Is Bruce always Bruce? 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.119 Yes, like as like I see. 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:47.839 But I love yeah, like I don't know how to explain it, like other than just saying that Bruce Campbell is Bruce Campbell. 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:49.359 I can explain that for you. 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:52.799 There's two uh main styles of he's a star. 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:58.559 There's people like me who are and you who are character actors, we're not ourselves on stage or on film. 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.880 Yeah, and then there are people Who are just themselves always. 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:03.279 Yeah. 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:08.400 It's like or if not themselves, they only play one or two characters each year. 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:13.359 It's like Tom, yeah, it's like you don't it's like you got Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks. 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:17.759 Like you've got two different or no, that's not Daniel Day Lewis and Tom Cruise. 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:18.160 There you go. 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:18.559 There we go. 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:18.880 Yeah. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:20.960 You don't have Daniel Day Lewis to be. 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.480 Which is wild because Tom Cruise can actually act. 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:25.759 And so can Bruce Campbell. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.279 That's the thing with Bruce Campbell, too. 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:28.480 Like, there's some stuff in Ash vs. 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:28.960 Evil Dead. 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:30.799 Like he actually gets he does get to act. 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:32.400 Like he gets to stretch his acting chops. 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:33.359 And it's it's good. 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.119 Like, and it's it's so good. 00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:38.640 Like, but it's also one of the funniest shows you've ever seen. 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:52.400 Like, it's literally like one of the most funny things, like the most heartwarming monologues Bruce Campbell has in his entire career, I think, is quickly followed up by one of the funniest splatter kills of all time. 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:54.400 It's the funniest thing. 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:58.880 Um, but also that's also the same show where he fights cum demons, but we're not gonna get there. 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.519 Um Evil Dead goes some places. 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:07.200 Evil Dead is like, after a while, they're just like if it was able to be a Come hither, Poltergeist. 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.079 Yeah, basically he says something along those lines. 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:11.680 But dude, there's a puppet. 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.160 Oh my god, there's a fucking hand puppet, Bruce Campbell. 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:14.880 It's nuts. 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.279 The Evil Dead is a franchise, it's so funny. 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:24.079 Did you ever watch um Onyx the Fortuitous and the Talisman of Souls? 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:24.559 No. 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:26.160 I think it's in like this same. 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.079 That's the I know who he is, though. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.400 Yeah, he uh for those of y'all don't know, he's a YouTube. 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:31.200 He's the guy. 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:31.920 He's like, I don't know. 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:33.440 On YouTube, and he's yeah, I don't know. 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:41.680 Yeah, and and that's when we're realize that the wormhole of the sky opened up and we saw yeah, I've got to be a little bit more than a feature film and I was one of the backers for it. 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:42.640 Oh shit, nice. 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:51.359 And um, you know, he it has a vibe that's in this ballpark, it's no, it's nowhere near as good. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.839 Yeah, and I'm not saying it's bad, it's just nowhere near as good. 00:23:53.920 --> 00:24:07.839 No, but it's in the ballpark of that's also because like now you're like thinking, like if you think of Evil Dead and Sam Raimi, like the creativity of those three guys, just the you know, like those guys, like everybody, it's not even just those three guys, it's everybody on set. 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:15.440 Like, I I'm pretty sure they probably have stories about a couple of people who weren't

doing a whole lot, but you know, like I've only seen a handful of Sam Raimi films. 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.640 It's only but like that whole thing is just creative is the right word for that. 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:20.880 Yeah, like he he is a he's so creative. 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.720 Like uh have you ever seen Dark Man? 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.359 No, oh wait Liam Neeson. 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.680 Yes, I saw it once Sam Raimi. 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:29.039 Yeah, I've only seen it once. 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.319 It's you only need to see it once because it's so weird. 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.279 It's so weird. 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:36.319 It's such a like Liam Neeson, like uh called Dark Man? 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.480 One of the uh things, uh one of the uh most I think it's a body horror film, yeah. 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.759 It's like one of the uh the big memeable moments is like Sam uh Liam Neeson getting angry at the fair because the guy won't give him the bear that he won. 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.480 He's just like give me the bear. 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:51.839 I need the bear. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.960 And it's like, oh my god, it's it's a very, very fun movie. 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.440 At the end of the movie, he's got uh Bruce Campbell's face. 00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:02.640 Yeah, at the end of the movie though, like the whole concept of the movie is he's changing his face, and at the end of that movie, he's got Bruce Campbell's face. 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.960 They've been talking about it a lot lately because Clayface uh it just came out recently. 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:08.000 I want to see that still. 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.640 I really want to see Clayface, I just haven't been able to. 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:13.279 I've seen his design like apparently used to be. 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:14.960 Yeah, I'm not gonna say anything actually about it. 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.000 But um I've yeah. 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:17.200 I've heard good things. 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.359 Yeah, I have I haven't heard any bad things yet. 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:20.960 That doesn't mean that they're not bad things. 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:28.799 I've heard the only thing I've heard about that's bad is just like it's it yeah, and I can see it is just like why this movie and why now. 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.920 Why did you just turn into like a bitchy cheerleader when you said that? 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:32.319 I don't know. 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.160 Look at how you're standing. 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:35.119 This is how I stand. 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.039 All I know is it's just something I've heard. 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:40.880 I guess it's not my opinion, I don't care. 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:41.839 I haven't seen the movie yet. 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:43.680 Uh I really want to see it though. 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:44.799 I wanted to I wanted to see what's going on. 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:50.960 The next movie I'm gonna see in theaters, the next movie I'm going to see in theaters is Avengers, unfortunately. 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:54.480 Because uh it's gonna be Doomsday, probably. 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:56.640 Yeah, I already have my tickets to Doomsday. 00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:57.839 I'm also gonna see Wolfman. 00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:59.839 I really want to see Robert Eggers Wolfman in theaters. 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.000 Robert Eggers keeps delivering. 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.240 We haven't talked about him on my pod yet. 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.240 Um his Nosferatu is so good. 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:07.599 I talked about it on Burnout. 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:17.279 I know what you're talking about. 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:26.880 Yeah, and he just turns to me and loudly says what's happening and turns totally off in like a disturbed way. 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:29.279 And I was like, this is hilarious. 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.079 I was like, that wasn't very kick-ass of you. 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:33.119 It didn't bother me. 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:36.079 Is that the it wasn't very kick-ass of you? 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:37.839 Is that what you're talking about? 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:45.599 Um, I I don't want to say it, I but I think that I think we're talking about it involves kick-ass. 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.119 It's a very kick-ass moment. 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:47.440 Yeah. 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:48.480 Um, but I don't know. 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.240 That that's uh Robert Eckers is very good. 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.240 I would call it a romantic scene. 00:26:52.480 --> 00:27:01.599 My biggest issue with the Evil Dead is Evil Dead where it's gone, and I don't like that they've turned into like gores, like splat movies. 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.119 Like I I keep hearing they're good. 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:04.400 I whatever is horror movies. 00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:11.759 I don't, I mean You can't you can't reproduce the same thing over and over again and still like it. 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:17.680 See this takes away the the Star Wars movies proved this without doubt. 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:25.119 You can't abandon what it used to be, so you can't totally subvert, but you also can't rehash over and over again. 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:31.920 They really literally cannot make it what it used to be because what made it what it was is uh retired. 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.599 Uh because are you talking about Star Wars? 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:34.160 Are you talking about it? 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:36.000 No, I'm talking about Evil Dead. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.759 They they can't make Bruce Campbell because it's he's a once-in-a-lifetime performer. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.720 Um, but but this is why you must watch Ash vs. 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:43.279 Evil Day. 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.279 Like, even if you just for fun, like like if you just turn it on, it's like it's fun. 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:48.640 You don't need to watch anything. 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.920 They do a quick rundown at the beginning of the show. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.400 And really, you just watch one evil dead and it explains everything. 00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.559 Like, because him going like, yeah, I went to medieval times for once, you know. 00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:58.960 Whatever. 00:27:59.039 --> 00:27:59.680 He doesn't care. 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:01.119 Like I mean, hold on. 00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:01.680 Yep. 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:02.400 Uh-oh. 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.640 Are your is your mic's messing up? 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.759 My mic just died, so we're sharing mics for a second. 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:08.640 Okay, okay. 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:10.319 Yeah. 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:12.559 Get get close to me for a second. 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.720 What we're gonna do is we're gonna wrap up my pod. 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:15.599 Yeah, we can wrap it up. 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.599 Um, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you're gonna want to listen to Burnout Hijinx on YouTube. 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.359 Yeah, burnout hijinks on YouTube. 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.640 Now, uh just wrapping up my podcast. 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.039 This is uh I've been with John Paul Edmondson. 00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:32.640 We've been talking about the evil dead. 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:38.400 Um there's changes happening to my planned week because of the acting gig I just booked. 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:43.839 So I'm only gonna have one more episode this week instead of I think three more that was originally planned. 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:45.680 Uh thank you for listening. 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:47.359 Uh I've been Tofer Mac. 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:49.519 Yeah. 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.440 And this is Shadows That Shine, a movie podcast. 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.680 Listen on YouTube to the rest of this episode. 00:28:57.839 --> 00:28:58.240 Bye.