บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The UK Gambling Gambit w/ Jerah Milligan (Fraud Friday)

really know. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: I mean I could be I know. 00:02:41 Speaker 1: You you should get from drinks if you're a black Irish person experienced more of the struggle. My last name is Mosley, and I had a chemistry professor or not professor, but teacher in high school who their last names were Mosley too, like a husband and wife, and they both worked at the school. They's spelled the same name, like the same way, and so I would always like to her one time and made her so uncomfortable because she was a white woman and I was like, oh, yeah, we have the same last name, was expelled the same way. It was like maybe your people owned my people. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: At something honestly, though, she think about it, she should think about it, think about it, she think about it. It's probably real and all hit for these tears. Don't feel sad, right, say I'm sorry and go buy me a car. 00:03:19 Speaker 1: That's what's what we want reparation. And we've upgraded from a mule to a Mazda. 00:03:23 Speaker 3: They took the mule in the in the forty acres back, so you know what I'm upgrading. I want. 00:03:27 Speaker 1: I want three miles. What's bigger forty acres or three miles? 00:03:32 Speaker 3: I don't know, math, I don't know math, Cody. 00:03:35 Speaker 2: That's so dumb. 00:03:36 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:03:36 Speaker 2: So dumb it's forty acres? 00:03:38 Speaker 3: But how how how is forty acres it that close? 00:03:40 Speaker 2: To listen? 00:03:41 Speaker 3: I don't know how land works. I live in the New York apartment. Okay, I don't know how. 00:03:45 Speaker 1: I feel like I've never experienced I don't know how. I've never experienced landing. No, that's a lie from Texas. 00:03:51 Speaker 3: I've experienced so much land and probably like horses too. 00:03:54 Speaker 2: My family owns a lot of land. 00:03:56 Speaker 1: All my aunts used to live on one hill and I was like, like holidays, we would go over and we would visit every aunt who lived on the hill because they all cooked something different that was a specialty. 00:04:05 Speaker 3: From like one of these like black family because I always see like the southern white families that do like the pageants and every yeah are you from like that same thing? Just black? 00:04:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I didn't do pageants. I didn't do pageants. I did have a college coach. 00:04:22 Speaker 3: I did a college coach. 00:04:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, like this woman I would drive to see in Dallas who would like help me be more competitive when I was applying to college. 00:04:29 Speaker 2: Now, I didn't do the college entrance scam. 00:04:31 Speaker 1: Guys, Okay, I did everything almost legitimatelya. 00:04:36 Speaker 3: Wait wait wait talk about But I love this though, because I feel like you don't even people don't even know black folk exist in that kind of like right world. 00:04:43 Speaker 1: No, yeah, there are black people with money and that's a funny thing, is like, and it's a weird racism thing like a dog whistle where people assume you grew up poor and I'm like, why are you assuming that I don't. I didn't have that struggle like I literally had like a show run or be like, oh, you know, this is how everybody did it in Philly, Like I didn't do it like that? And I was like, no, I grew up around a lot of white people. 00:05:04 Speaker 3: I was I was safe. I had we had yards. Okay, like we we had things, wait. 00:05:11 Speaker 1: Yards and backyards. My mom would throw parties and the white people would work them. Wait what Yeah, my mom would only hire white people. 00:05:17 Speaker 3: Know. I'm reading this book right now, and it's like someone asked me to help adapt it, and it's like it's hard because it is that it's like black people like reversing, Yeah, what happened to black people? And I'm like, man, I can't imagine hiring an all white staff. I'd be like, because if you're making the food, I'm like, do you know how to make? Like, are you gonna make this macaroni cheese right seasoning? Oh? 00:05:40 Speaker 2: Yes, plenty of white people who can cook. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: Emerald first, what what I've never seen Emerald pull up macaroni and cheese out the oven. Okay, this is my thing. I'm not with it. 00:05:53 Speaker 2: He was eating a pop eyssed chicken sandwich. He yeah, he like flavor. 00:05:57 Speaker 3: I don't trust him. He got it? I got one? How you get one? Yo? 00:06:03 Speaker 2: It was a scam. This was a scam. 00:06:04 Speaker 1: So Popeyes will put up sides and say that they were out of the pope sugar. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: Sandwich when really they had it back. 00:06:10 Speaker 1: So all you have to do is go inside and be like, hey, I see your side says you're out. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: But are you really out? And they'd be like nah, and then they give. 00:06:17 Speaker 3: One they say want the lies. They're about to say, Ao, we out. Also, what a good setup? Like does a black person own Popeye's no black person? 00:06:26 Speaker 2: Don't it? Just got black lady who's like his ship. I love this chicken. I made it mys. You think she got some extra momum your aunty you know what I mean. 00:06:35 Speaker 3: Her hands don't even be dirty. I'm like, listen, my aunties got burns. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: We don't even eat chicken. 00:06:40 Speaker 3: I know. 00:06:40 Speaker 2: We aren't make no fries. 00:06:41 Speaker 3: You got no elbow burns, so you got make that chicken grease burns. 00:06:45 Speaker 1: I have a huge grease breader actually really on the back of my calf. 00:06:49 Speaker 3: Wait, what did you run away from the. 00:06:57 Speaker 2: It's very traumatizing. 00:06:59 Speaker 1: I was I am bacon and that took this is the country and ship. I took off the stove too, like right after I cooked the bacon, so it was hot and it sloshed. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: A little bit and it got me bad. It got me my Oh my god. 00:07:14 Speaker 1: I would wear I would wear an ace bandage everywhere because I was so embarrassed because it

was like a hot, big, huge scar and I have very dark skin, so I was like wearing this ace bandage to the point where one my caws got smaller than the other because I'd work out. But the crazy thing is I used to as a scam because I got pulled over once for speed and I was like, I just got burned. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: I'm going to can they let me off? They let me on little corner. 00:07:42 Speaker 3: Yo. Man, listen, I need I need to get better at those cop scams because they be getting me. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: Oh nah bruh, especially as a black man. Come on, you need to be able to cry on cue man. 00:07:51 Speaker 2: I had. 00:07:52 Speaker 3: I had a story that was so good. Once I was driving my stepdad to the Special Olympics. It's hit. My parents are oldest. My parents are like seventies, Miss eventies joy my stepdad to a special Olympics. We got, you know, crutches in the front. I'm in the slow lane, my mom in the back. This this dude still dragged me out the cop like it didn't it didn't matter. I ain't know what was happening yet. 00:08:12 Speaker 2: Was your dad competing in the special element? 00:08:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a horseback riding or whatever. You know what I mean. He wanted he wants some medals, but it was a very traumatic time to get there. And I was like, yo, cop, come on baby, we're just trying to go to the specialom. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know if I was really speed and I was like, I'm in the slow lane, chilling. I was like, this is how people. 00:08:28 Speaker 1: I feel like it's very fucked up to arrest people going to the special Olympic. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: Can do I come out of the sides? 00:08:34 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, after you say like so many curses, we eight minutes and you ask. 00:08:40 Speaker 2: If you could Curt, I said one run out of here. 00:08:43 Speaker 3: He started cursing as soon as the podcast started. Holy if that's real. I think I. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: Said your name wrong. 00:08:49 Speaker 3: And then you literally started cursing me out to the media. Honestly, I didn't even notice that's on me. My apologies to everybody at home. 00:08:56 Speaker 1: Well, guys, let's get into it. Let's get into it. What's hot and guys, I'm getting letters. If you have a letter, if you have a story of about a time that you were hoodwinked or you did a con, please only tell us about the retired cons. Okay, I'm not trying to fuck up your bag, but email us at scam got uspod at gmail dot com because we would love to hear about it. So this scam comes from someone I'm gonna call Tsha, that's not her name, but I can be putting our governments out here. So just stumbled upon your pod and I'm loving it. 00:09:27 Speaker 2: Oh very kind. 00:09:28 Speaker 1: Here's a scam that happened to me and some of my psychologists colleagues, which I heard about from our local psychologists professional forums. Okay forums and got a Facebook group. Now, okay, psychologost

Okay. 00:09:41 Speaker 3: We know you went to college. We got it. We got it. 00:09:43 Speaker 1: So someone I call it a Facebook group. She said, we got a professional forums. 00:09:46 Speaker 3: I know it was a form. Don't just respect her like that. She just told you. She said, me and my psychology colleagues. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: Colleague. She didn't say friends. 00:09:53 Speaker 3: Oh me college, you were gonna have some colleague somewhere. 00:09:55 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, someone called me on my private cell and call O. I d showed up for the number for the San Jose Police Department. So this is a normal This is like a normalized scam now where people are hacking into like people's like legitimate government officials numbers to use it to contact you. So you can scramble, I guess a number, or you can make a number appear on someone's caller ID to be something that you're actually not calling from. And it's happening all the time. So someone is posing as the San Jose Police Department. A man identified himself as an officer and gave a badge number. That's also you know it's going to be a scam when anybody gives you a number. 00:10:35 Speaker 3: Of a cop calling you. 00:10:37 Speaker 2: Right, that's it. 00:10:38 Speaker 1: That's another thing. I'm like, if you call me. Also, if you're a cop and you calling me, I'm hanging up. He's like, yeah, for what, listen, I don't know deal with the cops in person. 00:10:47 Speaker 3: I don't know this person's real name, but I feel like I know her. 00:10:50 Speaker 1: And you rout So so a San Jose Police Department number called her. This police officer verified himself by giving a badge number, which is completely fake. That's not a real thing, and also, like, what am I supposed to do with that badge number? How I'm supposed to check to make sure that's legit? I got a system. What I'm supposed to do? 00:11:10 Speaker 3: Google it? 00:11:10 Speaker 2: Like hmm? Checks out? 00:11:11 Speaker 3: What? Also, don't call me you a cop. Don't call me like I don't feel safe on the phone. That means you know me. They shoot you through the floor, you know you. I don't know how they did it, but they did manage to shoot me through the phone. They said they were scared of my phone voice. Ye, and then they shot me. His voice got loud. Y'all think it's a game, it's not. 00:11:30 Speaker 2: This sounds like a joke. 00:11:31 Speaker 1: But then literally, I'm gonna see this on Twitter news in like a week, Like, damn, they got my man. 00:11:35 Speaker 2: They got my man's through the phone. Damn. So sad. It's being black so hard. 00:11:45 Speaker 1: So this cop d quotes said that she had been subpoenaed as an expert witness in a case involving patients and failed to appear in court, and that the judge put out a warrant for her arrest. I asked who the patient was, and he said he couldn't reveal that info. 00:12:01 Speaker 3: No, that I know what pay, like, what's the verification process? 00:12:07 Speaker 1: So they have expert witnesses to go to court sometimes in trial to explain things so that the jur can further understand like whatever, or to know the mental health state of whoever's. 00:12:19 Speaker 3: On trial or whatever. Practice. 00:12:21 Speaker 2: Right, we all watch law you. 00:12:24 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, be scaring me. I'd be like, yo, it'b be it'd be it'd be black dudes on that jone just going to jail all the time. I'm like, y'all need divers. 00:12:32 Speaker 1: I'm basically a lawyer because I've seen so much arcute and law in order SVU, I'm like, basically a lawyer. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: You watch How to get Away with Murders? 00:12:40 Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, so I can get away with mad murders. 00:12:42 Speaker 3: I learned on that show, you know what I mean. 00:12:44 Speaker 2: I was like, Damn, I can some murders. 00:12:47 Speaker 3: Oh yeah that. 00:12:48 Speaker 1: And on Scandal when they be cleaning up after like Scandal, the early days of Scandal, I was just Carrie Washington get her black blown out by the white president and it. 00:12:58 Speaker 3: Was let's take it back, Let's take it back. 00:13:02 Speaker 1: Literally every scene was like Olivia Pope with a big purse and gotta clean. 00:13:07 Speaker 2: Up a murder. 00:13:08 Speaker 3: I gotta clean and president, she gotta go bank the president, the country man. Listen, she was at the oval. 00:13:15 Speaker 2: Listen he was getting in that oval. 00:13:16 Speaker 3: Wait? So was he was he married? Did he have a person? 00:13:19 Speaker 2: He was married? 00:13:20 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, good for you. You know what I'm saying you out here? Her hope for her taxes. 00:13:24 Speaker 1: Were free, right, so while she was getting her back blown out, they would also be cleaning up murders. So I also feel like I know how to get away with the murders. Anyway, so she says she knew this was a scam once. He said expert witness because those people are paid to testify, and I couldn't be an expert witness in my own patients trial because it's a conflict of interest. So anyway, he said, the judge was willing to be nice and let me off with a fine rather than jail time insert eye roll here. Just to mess with him, I said I would take the jail time also. 00:13:55 Speaker 3: First off, First a while she on the phone with this cock this long. Okay, some people like entertaining, no macause this is my thing, all right. You could be you could be hacking in to my because you know on your phone you got to passwords kind of saved on there for websites, and like you could be hacking into my stuff as I'm talking to you. I've seen the movies on the phone the phone as we go into his whole find it's like no, but I could be on the phone and it's like, oh man, you got to bang of America things saved on the phone. Boom boom. I got it. You got to chase bank. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's how it works. 00:14:24 Speaker 3: Listen, I've seen TV, all right. I see a lot of TV. Okay, you see a lot. I

see a lot of TV. 00:14:30 Speaker 1: Okay, great, wonderful, So just mess with them, she says, she take the jail time. He said that officers would come pick her up. I said I could meet They could meet me at my house and I had to get a babysitter because the kids are on the summer break. Then I cheerfully say goodbye and hung up. I called the real San Jose Police, and a semi irritated officer confirmed this is a scam and that the police don't warn you if you have a warrant for your arrest. They just try to ambush you and take you in. You know what, my scammer's a lazy sociopath and not that right, thank you? 00:15:01 Speaker 2: T shut. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: When I got arrested, I had a warrant for you got arrested. I had a war forcezza. I didn't know. I moved to New York and it was like, oh, the d m V doesn't afford mail. So I was like, I don't remember ever, I do. I remember getting a ticket, but they're like, oh, it should have been afforded to you. Oh sorry. I was like, oh, come, we don't afford male. I was like, but I don't remember get a ticket. Well, and I got when I got arrested with my parents, you know what I mean. 00:15:27 Speaker 2: So when they pulled you over, you had warrant. 00:15:29 Speaker 3: So I didn't know. So I had no idea, so like legit. 00:15:32 Speaker 2: Just be having Warren. That's why the cops be pulling. 00:15:35 Speaker 3: I was in New York for three years, no idea. I'm chilling, you know, so I yo, she's validated. She talked to him for too long though, you know what I mean. Also, she snitched. She called the cops. I don't know how I feel about it, right, she called the cops. She called the real cops. 00:15:50 Speaker 1: She's trying to stop people from getting like played. I'm sure someone has sent him money. The weird thing, though, is he's scamming like a community of like intellectuals. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: But also you think that cops you call did anything, like for real? They all know that the cop do nothing. She said he was semi irritated on the phone. He's probably yeah, yeah, I'll make a report. So well she should have did. She would have called her cousin. You know what I'm saying, who's good with computers. Trace the number, all right, found out where that dude was at. You call him back, all right, call him back on a new line, like, hey, ah man, this is your bank. You need to verify your social Security. I got that call recently, and oh you did. 00:16:27 Speaker 1: That's a popular one that's going around right now. And I feel like millennials are getting and I've talked about it on the show already, but we all think there's no social security left. So I feel like it's very tempting. You're like social security. I'm like, y'all got ys. 00:16:39 Speaker 3: I think I no coins. I'm good, Like I'm done. I better save up now. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all have to save for retirement. Now it's millennials because it's trash yep fact. But yeah, so so sorry t Sha that she had that mild running with a scam cop. But

anybody calling your house guys for any reason and giving you any verification numbers, automatically hang up. 00:17:00 Speaker 2: That shit is fake. 00:17:01 Speaker 3: Like if you got a cousin that you want to talk to in a minute, you know what I'm saying, they call you like, oh, how's it going? Hang up on them too. You know what they heard? You probably got some money. I got a new job on your family if you'll know that cousin. That cousin is stranger calling me for what? 00:17:14 Speaker 1: When random family members call you, it's always about money. It's never not about money. And Steve Harvey, who is we talk about on your podcast? He's so problematic and his teeth are so big. I can see his teeth right now though. Yeah, his suits are much better. Marjorie upgraded him and introduce him to Purple. Ah, honey, I have to do an EP about her. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: She's the goddess. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 00:17:38 Speaker 2: Wait, so what Steve Harvey would say? 00:17:40 Speaker 1: Like with family members calling you to ask for money, you always want to be like, hey, Okay, let me think about it, let me see if I can do it, give me a few days. And then you wait like two weeks and then you call him back and like do you still need the money? 00:17:55 Speaker 3: Wait, so they say yes, and they say yes. 00:17:57 Speaker 2: No, but like in two weeks, like they have to finger out. 00:18:00 Speaker 3: I mean like, I'm not gonna call back and people call me now be like hey man, I heard youah blah blah blah. I'm like, yeah, not, I heard you, like my mom my, mommy already my mom he me with the text, A I heard your other your cousin, no, they call it. I was like, oh bet, thanks. 00:18:16 Speaker 2: Even in the morning. 00:18:17 Speaker 1: Yo, I've been lucky enough that hasn't started happening yet. But I because I am on TV now, people show up to family events and ways that they never did before. Like our family unions were packed. Now my mom's like, oh my god, I fucking forgot You're on TV. Everyone's gonna come now. 00:18:33 Speaker 3: Who you know, who you know you were for and can you get this? I'm like, hey, yo, man, I'm still like I'm broke. I ain't got it. 00:18:39 Speaker 1: I'd be like yo, I just went on because I like iconogra face. I'm like, I'm broke. Yeah, these are Balenciagas, but I'm broke. 00:18:47 Speaker 3: See but that's why you broke. See that, That's why I think it's like, oh man, you know I spent it already. I got these off whites. I'm broke, man. Yeah, I can't call it dog. I'm sorry, man. 00:19:00 Speaker 2: And we're back, guys, at its time. 00:19:03 Speaker 1: Congregation, that's what I call the congregation. Yeah, congreg And we're back and we're into my favorite segment, historic could winks. So I'm going to regale drop with historic con you know what I mean, really worthy of our prayers, and let's just get his thoughts. 00:19:19 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm ready. I'm ready. 00:19:21 Speaker 1: So this is actually very fun because I don't think that this scam was caught. I don't think the scammer was called really got away with this. But this is Edward Putman from the UK who conspired with the Camelot insider Giles Nibs. These some British Edward Putman and Giles Nibs. Giles Nibs, that is the most British name I've ever heard in my life. How the audacity to name your child Giles wild to cheat. So they cheated the system and they made a winning counterfit lottery ticket to claim an outstanding two point five million euro pies in two thousand and nine. Wow, so this is recent for somebody who shaded me and said nineteen ninety nine was not recent. 00:20:16 Speaker 2: Two thousand nine more recent for you. 00:20:19 Speaker 3: I'm petty out. I'll call out my Twitter tiler. That's twenty years ago. I mean, okay, well, so you agree with him. I mean, listen, you know I'm a guest. I'm a guest. I'm a guest. 00:20:29 Speaker 2: Oh man, this nigga draws disrespectful here. It came up my podcast one cuts me out in the first two. Remember, I'm sorry about is treating him. 00:20:37 Speaker 3: And now you're going sorry my apology. I'm sorry you? 00:20:41 Speaker 2: Oh do you? I don't know. 00:20:42 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to question, so how again. Buttnam has been described as a bully who is a heavy drinker and prone to fits of violence. He's also been convicted of wounding with intent in a case in the mid eighties when a neighbor in another area was attacked. So I guess he attacked his neighbor for six years. Putnam is alleged to have lived happily on the proceeds of the two point five million euros. So he got away for six years, but the secret fraud was exposed when a friend killed himself following an angry confrontation over how the winnings were divided. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: A court heard, Wow, so here's my thing. 00:21:20 Speaker 1: If you are mad about the money being divided, you're not gonna get none of it. 00:21:25 Speaker 3: If you doubt I'm gonna get him, I'm gonna have that's crazy. 00:21:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. So that's not a sad thing that happened. But I guess this is really what blew up. So he didn't get away with They would have gotten away with it, though. That's the crazy thing. If they hadn't have thought, they would have got away with this. And this is like three million US dollars. 00:21:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna lie. Man. If I could pull this off, I would do it. Oh absolutely, I would do this in the second, and I probably be like the guy who lived. I'll probably try to rip everybody else off. Damn, you're not even. 00:21:52 Speaker 1: Gonna try to be fair about You're gonna go oceans eleven and split the money equally, and then all y'all think is like my cigars after I remember I watched this this uh was this like an E E true Hollywood or something, but it was on like winners, like the Winner's Curse or something like that, a lottery people. 00:22:07 Speaker 3: So like every time any clearly, even if you fake win the lottery, you still

die or something bad happens. Like apparently, no matter what happens, bad things happen to people, you know what I mean. 00:22:15 Speaker 1: I wanted a re enactment show where it was like a guy who won the lotto and then like got murdered by. 00:22:20 Speaker 2: Like his new friend who was also his accountant. 00:22:23 Speaker 3: Yo, listen, I'm telling you this. If I won the lotto, I'm spending all that money in a year, like all of it. I don't even care much that I don't care how much this I'm gonna go. I'm gonna find a little black UDEs like Heyo, take this, take this one thousand real quick, and I'm gonna just spend it because my. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: Thing is that's what this guy did. He got murdered. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: Listen, That's what this is my thing. So we're gonna try to murder me. So I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna just go balls out like either that I'm gonna. 00:22:46 Speaker 2: Get curaety that you won the lotto. 00:22:48 Speaker 3: No, man, I ain't gonna be one of people that show up with their face covet and hands covet. Nah, man, I'm gonna show up. I'm not only showing up with my face out, I'm showing up giving thank you. Hey, I want to thank that job for fired me. I want to thank girl was saying I wasn't gonna be nobody. I'm gonna just crap on everybody. 00:23:05 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, oh, for real, fruit you said I was never asking to get murdered. Like everything that you're saying is like one, you're gonna give out money randomly, so people are definitely gonna be trying to. 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Hit you up all the time too. 00:23:14 Speaker 1: You're gonna show up to accept the lotto ticket with his raw face out, and you're gonna be antagonizing anyone who's ever wrong. 00:23:21 Speaker 3: Mike Tyson in the nineteen Mike Tyson used to walk around New York with a fur coat and be like, come at me, and you know what happened. Nobody came at him because he's crazy for doing that. So they'd be like oh man, dry got nothing to something. 00:23:33 Speaker 2: Rolling, he got none of lift for while here just. 00:23:35 Speaker 3: Being like come get me. I don't want to come after him. This might be part of the game. 00:23:39 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that does not work all the time. Tupac operated that way, and they came and got him. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: See some thing, man, But Tupac used to make those like emotional songs too, so that people knew he had a heart. You know what I'm saying. You know this is people knew he had a heart. 00:23:52 Speaker 1: Lets tweet me if you agree with you, I'm saying, think about it like this too. 00:23:56 Speaker 3: If you this is great, you listen to this, you got your job. Next thing, you know, you're like, oh man, I need to start acting like I don't care about getting fired. You might get promoted. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: I think that only works if you're white. 00:24:05 Speaker 3: If you start acting like you don't care about getting fired and you're black and your ass is great grass, Listen, all right, if you, if you black at the office, start acting like what white Chad would do. Just see what happened. You might you walk around like white Chad. White Chad walk around like nothing is a problem. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: W w c D. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying what would white Chad. I mean, he's gonna walk around no problem, walk around with that confidence. You gonna get promoted, you gonna be the bost. 00:24:26 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so fake ticket. Giles Nibs. I always have to say his name is the British Giles Nibs. 00:24:33 Speaker 3: That name is the worst. 00:24:35 Speaker 2: Honestly, you can't do nothing good with your life. 00:24:36 Speaker 1: For your name is Ji, miss NIBBs, Miss Nibs ell or mister Nibs. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: Your parents have to come and pick up to day, mister NIBBs. 00:24:48 Speaker 2: Hi, mister Nibs recalling in regard to your son. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: Imagine hooking up with somebody like that and he's like, hey, okay, you can you call me? 00:25:00 Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh my god. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: So Charles Nibs worked for a company's fraud detection department and knew how to cheat the system. And this is always necessary, and a good con is like you have to have a window of opportunity, and you also have to have like what I call a doggy door. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 00:25:16 Speaker 1: There's a front throw as a back door, there's a window, but there's always a little doggy door that people kind of forget about. 00:25:21 Speaker 3: They forget it's there. 00:25:22 Speaker 2: Like you may lock your. 00:25:23 Speaker 1: Windows, you may lock your doors, you may lock your back door, but that doggy door sometimes you forget about it. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: People come in the back door all the time. Yeah, because unexpected is in the back door and you're like, oh shit, what you're doing back then? 00:25:34 Speaker 1: Right, So he figures out that he can cheat the system. Nips, who works for Camelot between two thousand and four and twenty ten, had been in the office late one night when he saw a document being printed containing details of big winds that had not been claimed yet. 00:25:50 Speaker 2: Now we got a win of opportunity, right. 00:25:51 Speaker 3: Smart, smart, smart Nibs. 00:25:53 Speaker 1: And of course he just happened to see this like the papers, miss Nips, mister Nibs. So Edward then pressured the lottery security employee to help with the scam, after previously making a fake winning ticket for him as a joke. So it's crazy to me that he had to pressure him, because I'm like, if you may go fake winning ticket as a joke, that ain't no joke. 00:26:15 Speaker 2: You're showing me you can make. 00:26:16 Speaker 3: A fake wedding is illegal. This is illegal. This whole thing is legal. Got I'd be like, hey, hey, hey, you ain't about to swindle me. 00:26:22 Speaker 1: So Edward's friend Stephen Warner told the Sunday Mirror that pun which what a paper name the Sunday Mirror. Sunday

Mirror, that paper's going out of business. Come on, black Mirror. You know that Putman waved a fake winning ticket in front of neighbors five months before he scooped the jackpot. So Putman even went as far as to make friends toast to his win and promised to buy them houses. This was a joke that Putnam had put on, so he basically was like, so basically Nibs works in security, Putnam works with the tickets. Putnam had made a fake ticket and like was like, oh I won, Well all I'm buy you houses. It's lit, and then was like ha ha, this was a joke. Tell his friends if you did this to me as a friend, like putting the I'm gonna beat your ass. 00:27:07 Speaker 3: Facts. 00:27:09 Speaker 2: Get these hands. 00:27:09 Speaker 3: I'm like, where's where's the where's the Wh's the house? 00:27:12 Speaker 2: I promise people houses. 00:27:14 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people, if they already kind of financial distress, were actually like and relieved for a second. 00:27:20 Speaker 3: My name is a dick. 00:27:21 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna pay for your cancer treatment. I'm gonna get you a house, Sally gonna walk again. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: He should have got like where I'm from, Like when I was growing up, like people wouldn't like beat you up, they would just hold you down and just beat your legs. 00:27:38 Speaker 2: Behind. 00:27:38 Speaker 3: You would just keep tagging somebody like you, Like everybody would be like six six months just beating somebody late because this would happen. Here's the thing what no bruises can't prove it. And then like people will wobble you remember that for days? 00:27:56 Speaker 2: Are you and the mom tries in the mob? 00:28:02 Speaker 3: The legs get the legs, You're good. 00:28:05 Speaker 2: I guess that's a scam. You got to read people's legs. 00:28:09 Speaker 1: So he did this whole thing, and then it wasn't funny. So everyone was like, we weren't impressed that you made this fake ticket. It wasn't funny. Why would you do that to friends? And then Giles was like, I wish I had asked more questions because then he didn't realize like, oh man, if you could make a fake winning ticket, you could do this again if there's money that's unclaimed. So he kind of put two and two together. Later in the game, but everyone was pissed to him after he did this. He was like, what an asshole. So there had been some trial and error in producing a successful forged ticket because there were one hundred different possible unique codes printed on the bottom. So NIBS created numerous different specimens of the forged ticket, each with a different combination of a unique two digit checksum code and all the winning numbers for an unclaimed pop Then, with the deadline to claim the prize rapidly approaching, mister Putnam allegedly visited twenty nine different shops, providing a different ticket each time before the right number was found. So basically, there's a code at the bottom of the ticket, So even if you make a fake ticket with the fake numbers, there's a code that coincides with what the lottery is looking for. So they just had to keep going different lottery places and giving the same winning ticket but with a different code on the bottom until they got it right. 00:29:28 Speaker 3: How did one of the twenty something places did not say, Hey, that dude came in here with a ticket that didn't match up. I guess no one cares that Like, no. 00:29:38 Speaker 2: One cares. They're like back to my you know what I mean. 00:29:40 Speaker 3: Also a convenience store, Like, think about. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: Who works in convenience stores. They don't give the fuck. 00:29:45 Speaker 3: True, does the convenience stores get any money if they like the store? So if they're the store that is at they get money too. That's dope, Okay, good for them. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get a little bonus. 00:29:53 Speaker 1: So the sure the convenience store got to keep they cut because it was like, look, we ain't know that this was a scare. 00:29:58 Speaker 2: So lucky convenience store guide looks help somebody. 00:30:01 Speaker 1: So then with the deadline approaching, they went to a bunch of shops and finally they submitted the right ticket. So Keiley said, the defendant eventually submitted the correct code at a shop in why Combe. That means nothing to us on August twenty ninth, two thousand and nine. So we've pulled up a photo of Nibs. 00:30:21 Speaker 3: Oh he. 00:30:23 Speaker 1: Looks like a con artist. I know, but it's like I wouldn't trust it. He has a little bit of a soul patch. You can't trust anybody who got a soul patch, like they're definitely doing crime. And then this is Putnam. Oh, these men they look like they've been living hard. 00:30:38 Speaker 3: Damn I'm to start taking. 00:30:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all take a nap right after this. Guys, everyone wherever you are, take a nap because you don't want to look like these men, Google, Nibs and Giles there. 00:30:51 Speaker 3: They're a rough bunch. That's what happened when life gets you down right and you don't get back up. 00:30:56 Speaker 1: So they finally submit the winning ticket August twenty nineteenth nine. The bottom of the ticket was a bit mangled, but Putnam was paid the jackpot by Camelot in September two thousand and nine, despite the bottom of the ticket mangled slip kind of missing the barcode. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: So they did that on purpose. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Oh so they couldn't and they still got the money. 00:31:16 Speaker 1: Because it was like, you think about it, it's an older ticket, right, this is the money that hasn't been claimed, So it's like maybe it was sitting around and then you realized it was winning numbers randomly, So that kind of aids up with the story. So the real winning ticket may still be out there, and the real winner has never been identified. After so many years of struggling to make ends meet, he couldn't resist flashing his cash. His big weakness was cars, and lots

of them. According to neighbors, there were up to fifty cars at his home in King's Langley, which also has a mobile home in the garden. 00:31:48 Speaker 3: So two MILLI ain't that much. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: Maybe he was getting lots of kius. 00:31:53 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, what you getting, bru Can he use corollas like? 00:31:57 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he's got like twelve high the civic cent for his house. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: Get these used cars out of here day. 00:32:03 Speaker 2: He's not getting like a McLaren or like a Ferrari. 00:32:06 Speaker 3: I give me like a Cobra. 00:32:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely not getting that. He's like got like four miadas. 00:32:12 Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, don't I mean YadA? Get you through? You know what I mean? 00:32:15 Speaker 1: They got twelve KOs Like, sir, what are you doing? 00:32:19 Speaker 2: This makes no sense? 00:32:21 Speaker 3: That's where to get that four folkus? 00:32:22 Speaker 2: He said, look, he likes cars. You gotta get what you can't. 00:32:25 Speaker 1: So despite his multimillion pound wind fall, three years later, in twenty twelve, Putnam was sentenced to nine months for benefit fraud after going to claim thirteen thousand dollars in housing and income support. So this doing stole the latto and then went to get on welfare. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: Listen, he went and got on welfare. 00:32:49 Speaker 3: Like I told y'all earlier, when you go to work, all right, just act like you have the confidence of just a straight white man, right because I'm like, this shit, don't make me. I'm a game. This system for two three million dollars technically, and I gotta go. I spent it on Kiyas and Toyota Corollas and no, I gotta go to wealfit. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: And this guy is not a good guy. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: Normally, I would praise scammers for like going out and getting a welfare check on top of being a millionaire, because that is hilarious and perfect. But he's done some pretty fucked up stuff that I'm not going to get too deep into because that's not what we do here. But he had some assault charges. He had the jail, yeah, and some of these were like two women. So he's just like not a good guy. He told people that his money came from property developing. No one had any inkling that he was a lottery winner, and to be honest, no one in the village wanted anything to do with him. So according to a neighbor, he's not a pleasant man, but just did what he wanted. Let's put it this way, he's never going to be a candidate from Neighbor of the Year. 00:33:48 Speaker 2: So he was also a trash. 00:33:49 Speaker 3: Man, so no one cared about you're a trash dude, and so which one is the one who calibbs there was nothing? How do trash people always succeed right. 00:33:58 Speaker 1: Cause they're not I talk about this on another episode, but like they don't have any empathy, Like, and when you don't have any empathy, you'd be sleeping real good. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you're right, it's got to be it because I mean, you're out here just doing whatever you want doing. Don't give a ship. 00:34:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, but his neighbors hated him. I'm sure they hated that he had fifty chevrolets on the on the yard. And also like if this was mister Rogers neighborhood, no one would want to be his neighbor. No, like, we don't want you to be our neighbor. 00:34:25 Speaker 3: Not even the puppets. 00:34:27 Speaker 2: Props be like, fuck off, the male man, not fucking with you. Nobody fucking with you. 00:34:31 Speaker 1: Every time they ceo as ain't nobody switching their shoes and they sweater? 00:34:35 Speaker 3: What would you do if you want like the lottery. Though, do you know do you have an idea of Like, yo, first thing first, I'm doing this, this and that. 00:34:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting a really nice house. I'm getting a super nice car. I'm saving. I don't know what else I want. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: See. I like that. That's classy. You know what I'm saying. I probably buy my parents' house. But then I'm petty. I would spend most of my money getting back at people. You know what I'm saying in the most extravackant ways. You know what I'm saying. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: That's a movie. 00:35:00 Speaker 3: It's like like if you if you you know, if you bullying me in high school and I find out you're working out, that's so. 00:35:05 Speaker 2: Much work dry you can just enjoy the money. 00:35:07 Speaker 3: That This is me enjoying the money, like this is I have. The thing is I have no day job. I have nothing to do but to plan revenge on you, Like, oh, you work at this coffee shop, I'm gonna buy a coffee shop. 00:35:18 Speaker 2: The best success is revenge. 00:35:20 Speaker 3: No it's not. 00:35:21 Speaker 2: I mean the best success is revew revenge. 00:35:24 Speaker 3: Is sixty people say that. But my thing is this, You're not feeling the pain though you know, you don't think they are. 00:35:29 Speaker 1: That's what Instagram is for. Instagram is too flex on your enemies. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: You know what, if that's the case, You're right. You know what, I'm gonna have to buy the apartment building there. I'm not gonna come out. I just want them to know that at any moment, I could do it about you know, they could move and then you just are you have an apartment, so you know what better business me? You got to move to another apartment because you lived in this one. I would buy that with too, because now I got one successful apartment. This is insane. 00:35:54 Speaker 1: Also, please let me know about all of these takes beating people in the legs. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: All your money. 00:36:00 Speaker 2: That's real. No, I never did that rab. 00:36:07 Speaker 3: Run. 00:36:08 Speaker 2: So this is when things got messy. 00:36:10 Speaker 3: It wasn't messy yet. Like wait, this whole time, I. 00:36:14 Speaker 2: Guess that he's just had a lot of Toyota corollas. 00:36:17 Speaker 1: Evidence suggests that mister NIBBs was

paid an initial two hundred and eighty thousand from Putnam for his part of the alleged con followed by much smaller increments totaling fifty thousand dollars, but he was angry not to receive more money and The pair clashed bitterly in twenty fifteen over what he considered Putnam's betrayal. So he thinks at this point, Putnam's like not handing over enough money. Also, bruh, So you don't even got the full three million and you got fifty cars. Make it make sense? I know what kind of cars are these? Their key is big wheels. 00:36:52 Speaker 2: I mean, my nigga, how. 00:36:53 Speaker 3: They gotta be used cars? Right, they got reused. They gotta be ones with a din in it. That's like I wanted this. I had a match box that his cars just buying. 00:37:00 Speaker 2: My man is going to police auctions. He's like, yeah, it's a little blood. 00:37:03 Speaker 3: On it, but yo, it's a car, and you know I need a car. I might go to a police auction. I need a car too. Maybe I'll go to shoot. They probably got drug dealer calls. 00:37:11 Speaker 2: Probably you gotta do is sage it to get the burder off of it. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: And also if it's a drug that they just got caught. 00:37:17 Speaker 1: Also, but how fresh though, because if the drug dealer is out here on the streets, I don't want to body keeping my car. And then thinking I'm you know so and so, and in they spraying my car and lightening it up. I feel like gang bangers don't check license plates. I feel like you're not like, oh, look at those that bend number. 00:37:32 Speaker 3: That's the guy you shoot him. That's a good point. But you know what though, maybe if it's like super cheap, you can't repaint it or something. I don't know how much. 00:37:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we'll figure this out. 00:37:40 Speaker 1: We just scammed the police auctions, right, that's my next scam. I feel like the police auctions have plenty to be scammed. So things get messy when evidence has suggested that mister NIBBs was paid initial so all this money, right, this is the issue. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: So mister NIBBs is partner. 00:37:55 Speaker 3: Oliver that you're trying to say fresh and I'm like, yo, you keeep saying mister NIBBs, just like things got nibby, mister NIBBs did this. I'm like, bro, get this med a code name, yo, mister black all right. 00:38:11 Speaker 1: So Oliver o'pheelin was his partner. Said he had been introduced to Eddie Putnam and his partner Lida. He described mister Punnan as a loud man who liked to show off. He said Lida was a lovely lady. Okay, come on, Lida. So in May of June twenty fifteen May and June of twenty fifteen, he asked mister Putnam why they were not seeing them. He was told by mister NIBBs it was because mister Putnam owed him a lot of money. So I guess they're not hanging out. And then this this uh or filling guy Oliver. These are such British ass names. Oliver, Oliver Twist. So Oliver is somehow in the scene. I guess this is mister NIBBs partner. And he's like, well, why are you not hanging out with Putnam? 00:38:53 Speaker 3: No? 00:38:53 Speaker 1: More like he was like, I'm hanging out him. He robbing me, bro like he trying to scat a SCAMMERA. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: Ohy, can we do dolla? Is that is that? Wait? Who you? Who are you? Right now? You miss damn you? I'll be putting them. 00:39:11 Speaker 2: Amen. 00:39:15 Speaker 3: Amen, I'm out here getting a swim. Man. 00:39:18 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: Come on, man, you see I sew your the corollas out here. Man. It said enough, it said. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: Enough, man. I really don't know why. Then your house looked like gon use. 00:39:28 Speaker 3: Car because I'm trying to build up to a Mercedes. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: That's not how cars work. Get a lot of shitty cars and then it becomes a nice car. 00:39:36 Speaker 3: That's what you do. You votrying the car. 00:39:39 Speaker 2: The money I gave you two hundred and eighty thousand. 00:39:42 Speaker 3: And that's nothing for me. 00:39:44 Speaker 2: I can't eat with that. Look me and my wife later gotta go our boat here. 00:39:49 Speaker 3: You got a boat you swimming? 00:39:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I did with my hair. 00:39:52 Speaker 1: With the money, you can swim. And now all of a sudden they're black. So this gam and the fall apart as a friendship and former business partners deteriorate it. So Nib's behavior became increasingly erratic. He began revealing details of the fraud to friends after failing to receive what he agreed to be Like a million pounds is what he was supposed to get. So a friend staying with Nibs before his death. So Nibs was the one who committed suicide. Oh, Nibs was a bad guy. So he was a bad guy though he like did assaults to women. Yeah, he's not a good guy. He's a guy that nobody wanted to be the neighbor with, Like he's you know what I mean, like not that I'm not that's a very serious topic. But I don't feel bad for him because's person. But he was telling everybody now about the con because now he's mad. So and he in his streets just stool pigeoning. He's out here like Takashi all of a sudden, his hair is rainbow colored. Yeah, he's sitting on everybody like people don't even need to be snitched on. 00:40:52 Speaker 3: You know, Lacey stole some gum when she was twelve. You know what I'm saying. 00:40:55 Speaker 2: No one was talking about that. 00:40:57 Speaker 3: Nibs stole stole some gum from a corner store. She didn't get twenty five cent up nips. That's the statute of limitations. Ain't up on that? Which saying I want people to know. Do you listeners know? Do you listeners know? So? 00:41:09 Speaker 1: He confronted Putnam in a heated argument in June of twenty fifteen, breaking Putnam's car wing mirror and stealing his phone. 00:41:16 Speaker 2: Damn wow, it's still his phone. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: It's not like a side piece. This is like this, not like when you when you ain't get somebody a gift. You know what I'm saying,

You got you got, you got your you got your main a gift and then the side piece find out about the real gift and it's like, oh, oh for real, what do I what I got? I blup your whole ship? 00:41:33 Speaker 1: Right. I feel like if you're beating people's cars and ship, like that's passion, y'ah passions y what you I'm just like, get the money. So Nibs was subsequently arrested for burglary, blackmail, and criminal damage after Puttnam put in a complaint to the police. Wait a minute, Puttnam's page gonna be snitching. When you are in a full blown crime. You did crime with this man. You can't use the police when you're doing You gotta go beat his legs. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: Also, you can't go to the cops. 00:42:03 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, you beat his legs. You beat you definitely cannot just go to the cops. But apparently he went to the cops and got the law. In British people are so damn civil. This is so British. Everything about this is so British, Like, how do you go to the cops when you are literally doing crime with this man? You're like, hey, you climb up to my house and go really upset because we did a crime together and he's not happy about his unions in the crime. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: So I just really need to report him to the police like. 00:42:33 Speaker 3: To do. 00:42:33 Speaker 2: If you're in the game, you got. 00:42:34 Speaker 3: To be in it. I know, man, It's one of the things where it's like but also you know what it is though what he's like, I'm gonna get ahead of this, you know what I mean. He's like, I can get you locked up. I ain't gonna give you none of this money. 00:42:45 Speaker 1: But also that's not how it works, like deals, Like if I were to sing on you about something bigger than they would want us for the bigger crime. 00:42:51 Speaker 3: But you're a criminal already. Do ain't gonna believe no criminals? Maybe nobody watches I got a wife in the house. I'm like, they're gonna believe me. I'm an upstand right, and he's the uglier guys don't like him, right, block him up the way to gee. 00:43:08 Speaker 1: So getting caught on October fifth and twenty fifteen, Nibs unfortunately committed suicide after fearing that he would go down for ten to fifteen years for blackmail. When the trial was hurt as a result, Putnam was arrested and eventually went to trial. Putnam, who arrived at court with his face mask wearing dark glasses, c you talking about raw face. He came with his face mask wearing dark glass, denies fraud by false representation, and the trial continues. Judge Philip Gray said that the sophisticated, carefully planned and digitally operated fraud struck at the heart of the integrity of the National Lottery. He said, you would have gotten away with this quite plainly, but you were greedy, and he's right. 00:43:52 Speaker 2: He should have. 00:43:52 Speaker 1: Gave him the other half of money. Whenever you get greedy, that's when you shit blow up. That's exactly how the college cheating scandal blew up was. 00:43:59

Speaker 2: One guy got green. He trying to cut out the middleman and then they got caught. So like, you just can't get grady. Guys. 00:44:05 Speaker 1: You could have been sneaking people into college for Kingdom till Kingdom come. 00:44:09 Speaker 2: You could have won the lotto and. 00:44:10 Speaker 3: Got away with it, tendeth. It was a three million he got you to give me and you had two mil Come. 00:44:15 Speaker 2: On, dude, damn. 00:44:18 Speaker 1: So the fact that Camelot had been hoodwinked in this way will of course be damaging to its reputation, like they're probably not gonna be running. 00:44:26 Speaker 2: I mean, they're still running the lottery. 00:44:27 Speaker 1: But the judge sentence Edward Puttingham to nine years in jail, and it doesn't say anything here about restitution. 00:44:32 Speaker 2: So I wonder if you just got to keep. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: No man, he had to pay that back, but he had to go to jail for nine years. 00:44:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna serve all of that. You know, He's going to Arthur Stuart jail. I'm sure British jail is like so quaint. 00:44:42 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you know, did did that actress have to go to jail for the college candle? Or she didn't go to jail her name? Who? Oh? 00:44:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, the desperation have been had fourteen days, fourteen days, they have hard jail time. 00:44:55 Speaker 3: Yo. I'm not gonna lie y'all man. I'm not trying to show you why people on this podcast, but I just I need that. 00:45:00 Speaker 2: Man. 00:45:00 Speaker 3: If I could just super power it up and it's like, oh ship, bad shit happening, Press the button and I'm saved, yo, and you just safe. That's it. Nine years he'd probably served what five like maybe on good behavior. 00:45:14 Speaker 1: Good behavior, he sounds like a likable guy. Damn well, you know what shout out to these artists. You guys aren't good guys, so I can't really praise you. 00:45:24 Speaker 3: But this is a good con. That's a good count. 00:45:27 Speaker 1: But y'all fucked it up. You fun with the bag for no reason. You couldn't just give my man's the money he was asking for. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: Yo, I got it. 00:45:33 Speaker 2: Guys. 00:45:33 Speaker 1: Don't get greedy. That's one of the essential rules of scamming congregation. 00:45:38 Speaker 2: Don't get greedy. 00:45:38 Speaker 3: This could be set it off for the new era. So instead of them robbing white British dudes, instead of like I heard I heard, trying to do, you can have four black women be like, yo, you know what, we ain't gonna work at this company no more. We ain't gonna we ain't gonna rob them physically, We're gonna rob them mentally by outswindling them with the computer systems they don't think we know how to use. And now you got set it off. 00:46:04 Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I can't take cloth like a can't disappeared on draws and he'd suddenly wearing a necklace and he's gone full. 00:46:14 Speaker 3: Of test y. Did ya did this to me with

these Brits on. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: That's gross. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. 00:46:21 Speaker 1: But scammer of the week last segment, So, an employee of the restaurant reservation app Open Table made a few hundred false reservations at forty five restaurants. Dozens of Chicago restaurant owners were scratching their heads over the fake reservation scam. He called himself Hans Gruber and Jimmy Smith's and other phony names. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: Those names don't sound real. If you call me, you're like, Hi, my name is Hans. 00:46:50 Speaker 3: I would like to take you. Hans Gruber is one of the best movie villains of all time. Right, I love heart best Right. And then he said Jimmy Smith, Yes, I was messed up. That's a real person. You asked. That's so rude. 00:47:05 Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith's like, suddenly, can't go to any restaurants. You're like, no, sorry, Jimmy, We've had it with you. You can't make any restaurant. So, among other phony names, while making hundreds of fake online reservations, according to prosecutors. 00:47:23 Speaker 2: Prosecutors, you could get you come Jepitus. 00:47:26 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, what is the San Francisco tech company he worked for, called him a rogue employee who took it upon himself to make the competition look bad. So now federal prosecutors say dozens of Chicago restaurant managers can call Stephen Addison the culprit of a bogus booking scheme that left more than thousands of their seats empty on normal busy nights, costing them thousands of dollars in lost sales. Addison was charged on Thursday by the US District Court with one count of wire fraud for the dinner deserting scam that was uncovered earlier this year. This individual was making reservations, then confirming them so that we block off the tables and then would not show up, said the owner of Tavern on the Park. The targeted restaurants all used a competing app called Reserve for customers to make the reservations. Oh so he was just trying to ruin open table for them so that people would start using their aps. 00:48:24 Speaker 3: This is so petty. I love it. I loved that. 00:48:27 Speaker 2: The company said that he acted alone. They were like he was a rogue and what he was doing, yeah, I knew. 00:48:33 Speaker 3: Could you imagine coming in like a yo, my I gotta wait to fix it. I gotta wait to crash the system, you know what I mean. I'm gonna just do it for my laptop and make all these reservations. I'm gonna close everything down, and the joke's gonna be on them because they're gonna have empty restaurants. This nigga thought he was crushing it with this. 00:48:48 Speaker 2: But he was because he works for the reserve apps. 00:48:51 Speaker 1: So it drove traffic to the other app because open Table was crashing. 00:48:55 Speaker 2: Because he was crashing it. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: I'm about this, yo. This is so petty, like this is even a real scam to me, This is just like a swindle that some dude did, and it's just. 00:49:08 Speaker 2: Why

you got to go to jail for this. This is called capitalism. This is literally capitalism what Americans do. 00:49:14 Speaker 3: Wait, they say what the person's name is. 00:49:16 Speaker 2: The guy's name is Steven Addison, So we don't know, we. 00:49:20 Speaker 3: Don't know the nights they put they put him in jail. I don't know. 00:49:24 Speaker 2: This sounds like, do you think it's Stevie? 00:49:28 Speaker 3: I think I got to Google. I got to Google. 00:49:30 Speaker 1: So he would use fake names, email addresses, addresses, and phone numbers to book the tables through reserve on the busy nights like New Year's Eve and Valentine's Day. I used to work in restaurants. Those are the two most popping knights and restaurants. Everyone wants to go to dinner before they go to the club on New Year's Eve, and then everybody got to take their side hose out and their main hose out for Valentine's Day. I would work Valentine's Day, and you don't make a lot of money because it's like when all the poor people start to go out to eat, because it's like, yeah, because all the like I worked at a really nice restaurant, and it would be like all the broke dudes like splurging for the night, you know what I mean. So they wouldn't really be in there balling out like on a regular Tuesday. How most of our guests would be Also, violence. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: Be a swindle, you know what I'm saying. I feel like that's a swindle day. Why there's my thing like Valentine's Day. I'm like, yo, let me celebrate the day before in the day after. 00:50:21 Speaker 1: Hear me out, that sounds like you are cheating on whoever you're with. No, No, the pressure sees you're on bowents Day. 00:50:30 Speaker 3: Because that's the pressure is like the day is so the day is so faked. I'm like, I don't want to celebrate you on this fake day. I won't let you know that I celebrate you before and after the day. 00:50:38 Speaker 1: That is literally like a textbook line from like a nigga who cheats on you, like Ani. 00:50:44 Speaker 2: Who at least has several kids and wives. 00:50:47 Speaker 3: I hear now that I said, all, I hear it. But you know what, though, you still get the celebration. 00:50:52 Speaker 1: But you know, for women, though, it's such a fun holiday because you get all these gifts, well if you're dating someone and you pretty much can just keep regifted the same vagina every year for Valentine's Day. I went to European wax Center Life yesterday and I haven't gotten a wax in years, and oh my god, it was so painful and horrible. But like I went there and it was popping because it was a Saturday, so all the women were in there getting their waxes and I was nine minutes late to my appointment and they were like, oh, you're nine minutes late, so unfortunately I was Unfortunately, I'm gonna get it. I'll pay, I'll pay anything. They're like, no, you just have to wait in the back of the queue. There was this lady there and she was like, I was twenty minutes late, so I'm waiting in the

back of the queue too. She was like, it's my husband's birthday, though, so I gotta get his gift ready. 00:51:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, hey, man, fellas, can we give things like can we just be like, hey, hey, listen, you know this penis gonna be the gift for Valentine's No, pinas is never a gift, so they could be like, hey, listen, you know, listen, I wrapped it up nice to start. It's like I got some new draws on the day. I shaped up my stuff a little bit. So we donated never enough. 00:52:00 Speaker 2: Only that's the real scam. Women. 00:52:01 Speaker 1: We can keep gifting vagina for years to come, but nobody wants a penis gift. 00:52:06 Speaker 3: I mean it is like, amen, he's like, hey, you know what I did some stretches. Oh no, it's just for you. 00:52:16 Speaker 2: No, we all know that's a scam. No one, whatever happen. 00:52:19 Speaker 3: Come on, fellas, you gotta be able to do something. Got to regift some stuff. 00:52:22 Speaker 1: You can give a bag. Nobody want penis as a gift. As a gift, I get that anywhere. 00:52:30 Speaker 3: Honestly, right, women can get penis anywhere. Dude, be like, oh what I can't? 00:52:35 Speaker 2: I can hit Oh yeah yeah yeah honor, it's an honor. But we all know man or trash. Penis is everywhere. Oh god, penis is like that thing that everyone's trying to sell you all the time, Like. 00:52:48 Speaker 3: I don't want to buy it, Like I'm good, that's why you're being gifted it. You're not buying it, You're being gifted. 00:52:54 Speaker 1: Would you like to switch your penis pro rider today? And I'm like no, I'm good with my current penis providers. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: But also, but the thing is this penis has been upgraded because it is like if there's a holiday, you've done new shit to your penis. You know what I'm saying. Think about like butting you've. 00:53:07 Speaker 2: Done over the holidays to your penis to make it better. 00:53:09 Speaker 3: For instance, like just like how you would go to uh and get a wax. You could get like a little you and get a little weight and do penis lifts, so now you got strongle penis from you know what I'm saying. 00:53:20 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I was, I'm gonna start selling penis weights. Yo, You're probably makes so much money. 00:53:25 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you just do a little flex and it's like yeah, strongkle penis. 00:53:27 Speaker 2: Oh lord Jesus, so Madison. 00:53:31 Speaker 1: Addison's scheme intended to demonstrate to the Chicago restaurants that Reserve had an inferior reservation system. 00:53:38 Speaker 2: Oop. 00:53:38 Speaker 1: And I just realized that I switched these So this guy worked for Open Table and he was booking in a competitive app, Reserve. 00:53:46 Speaker 2: Okay, so that so this is also like big money ship. 00:53:49 Speaker 3: He was trying to crash. He was trying to. 00:53:50 Speaker 1: Crash Reserve, which I've never even heard of Reserve. So Reserve is probably the small time money app. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: He did it, he worked, it worked right, And they said that. 00:53:58 Speaker 1: He intended to demonstrate that shook to the Chicago's restaurant said Reserve had an inferior reservation system by crashing it. Prosecutors concurred that Addison made reservations on his own accord and did not personally profit from the scheme. I find that impossible. 00:54:13 Speaker 3: Yeah too, I mean they knew also, like why would the big company tat to tick out the little dog? You know? 00:54:18 Speaker 1: What I mean right, exactly this one. But that's what big companies do. That's what capitalism is all about. That's literally monopoly. Has anyone ever finished a game of Monopoly? 00:54:26 Speaker 3: I don't play Monopoly realamed because there's so many different ones. And also like I I'll suck it. I am terrible abboor games. I gu's so antsy. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like super violent too. 00:54:36 Speaker 3: Wait Monopoly. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never played Monopoly and not gotten into a fight. I have a scar. 00:54:41 Speaker 3: Wait is Monopoly? That's don't pass go? 00:54:44 Speaker 1: Yeah that game gets intense. People be cheating, hide money out of the boar. Next thing, you know, you got a greenhouse stuck in your eye. 00:54:51 Speaker 3: You know. 00:54:52 Speaker 2: It excalates very quickly. 00:54:55 Speaker 1: But yeah, so this is like so an monopoly thing of just trying to crash the little guy to make more profit. 00:55:01 Speaker 3: Dang. See that's why. See, that's why I'm playing Monopoly. You know what I mean? I don't play what was it? I don't go to recess because I don't play me. 00:55:10 Speaker 2: Now come on us, well, thank you so much for being here. 00:55:13 Speaker 3: What you kicking me out? 00:55:14 Speaker 2: Yes, I am kicking you out. That's how this works. We are at the end of the podcast. 00:55:19 Speaker 3: Wait that's it? 00:55:23 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Is there anywhere that you want to be found? 00:55:27 Speaker 3: I gotta be better promote, So follow me at draw Meligan on Twitter and Instagram. And not to plug a rival network. I don't know. I think all podcasts love each other. Uh, if you go to Forever Dog, Black Men can't jump in Hollywood review movies with leading actors of color and talk about how to man trying to keep us down. Honestly, kind of been in a fun way. 00:55:50 Speaker 2: It's a very fun show. 00:55:51 Speaker 3: I've done that. 00:55:52 Speaker 2: It's a good show, all. 00:55:53 Speaker 1: Right, guys, And as always, you can email us with your cons and frauds at scam Gottespot at gmail dot com. You can follow us at Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter and also on Instagram. And if you want to find me, Lacy Mosley, I'm at d I V A L A C I d BA Lacy on all platforms. Congregation, Stay Scheming, Scam Goddess