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We've got Bok Friday back in South Africa.
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I'm in my green shirt.
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I think the Scotland All Black game is going to be fantastic.
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Let's see who's going to win this Nations Cup.
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They have got a lot of injuries, the Italian side.
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Have they got any chance?
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I don't think they'll win, but they'll certainly have a crack.
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But as the game opens up, first dominate up front, but then let's have a go with our backs as well.
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Scotland's never beaten the All Blacks.
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Could it happen this weekend?
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They do believe they can have a go at the All Blacks.
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I think what will happen is we'll go through unbeaten and South Africa will lose to France and Paris.
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That's my early prediction.
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You're trying to be a nice guy this morning on this show.
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I'm done.
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I'm not being nice again.
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Right, welcome to Ram Hand to Hand Couriers Rugby Rivals and a special preview edition where the teams have been named for the test matches and...
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So, Victor, are you happy with the team?
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It's a strong side considering the Italians have got a lot of injuries.
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Yeah, interesting.
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I must say, when Rossi picked the South African side, I was like, okay, he's maybe not that focused on this Nations Cup when he selected the squad with all the youngsters in the squad.
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But, I mean, the team that he picked this weekend is definitely the strongest he could have picked that he thought he could have picked.
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So yeah, he's going all out.
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So it's going to be great to see the boys back.
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We've got Bok Friday back in South Africa.
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I'm in my green shirt.
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Everyone outside is in their green shirts.
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So we're very excited for this last few games.
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This weekend already, we're going into it.
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There's a few big games.
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I mean, I think the Scotland All Black Games is going to be fantastic to watch.
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England, Australia.
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that's going to be another crack-off game.
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So, yeah, we're here.
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Let's see who's going to win this Nations Cup.
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Do you think, though, that it missed a trick?
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And this is unusual for Rassi, but this was a chance, you know, the Italians have got a lot of injuries.
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To give some of those, you know, new players a bit of test experience, you know, is he missing that opportunity?
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Yeah, I think what Rashi is saying this week is the players only arrived in camp on Monday and they're playing Saturday.
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So there's quite a few of them that hasn't been in the spring ball camp at all.
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So they don't understand how, what they want to do, how they want to achieve it.
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So for him, he would rather let them get into the system, get into the squad, understand what it's about.
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Again, that's something Rossi will do.
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I mean, if you play France or Ireland, that everyone thinks, listen, this is just going to be conservative.
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He doesn't mind giving those players the opportunity because, I mean, if they want to go to a World Cup next year, they need to be able to perform in their big games as well.
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Probably doesn't help they perform well against...
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Italian team with a lot of injuries because a lot of people will say, yeah, but the quality wasn't there.
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But if these kids get opportunity against France or Ireland or any of the other, maybe in the final week, they'll have to step up and they will have to show, listen, I'm ready to go to World Cup and to play in a big A. JK, Spock Friday, mate.
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You haven't got your Springbok Tuesday on.
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What's going on?
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I've got my black, it's Black Friday, mate.
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What do you mean, the Springbok Friday?
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It's Black Friday.
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You are a former Italian coach, so you're an expert on Italian rugby.
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You know, they have got a lot of injuries, the Italian side, and it's a powerful Springbok.
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I mean, have they got any chance?
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No, I don't think they'll have a crack.
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I mean, the interesting thing about the Italians is sometimes they played really, really well two Novembers ago against the All Blacks, and they play well when they disrupt you and they get in your face and they're raw-boned and they can be really aggressive.
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So I think that the interesting thing about Italy is you don't have the depth of the squads that, say, New Zealand...
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or South Africa have.
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I mean, New Zealand's got a massive injury list as well.
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But I don't think they'll win, but they'll certainly have a crack.
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I was really interested also, like Victor said, to see Russ's side.
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I thought he'd take a different approach.
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But, you know, first, you've got to get your trip off to the best start.
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So, you know, good on them.
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Okay, let's get Ram Curriers.
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Who's going to deliver on that test match, Victor?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Ram Henson, Korea, perform under pressure.
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I think for this week, I actually want to go with Sasha a little bit.
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I'm not going to go with one of the scrum guys.
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I think it's time Sasha didn't have, I mean, he's been good at times, but he's had...
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few issues where he's maybe too loose, make too many errors.
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So I think this is a series where he'll have to show, listen, I can manage the game as well.
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I'm not the flyer that's just going to do magic moments, do special things, but he needs to drive the team, manage field position, get his kicking game there and also keep the team calm, especially in a game like against Italy where
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it can get to lose.
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I think it's going to be important for him to control the game.
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And as the game hopefully opens up, then we'll see some of the Sasha magic.
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You're also the expert on Brandy and Coke.
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That's really your specialty subject, which you know more about than rugby.
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Drum roll.
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It's Friday.
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Yeah, so you'll be enjoying a few cliff drifts.
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But let's have a look at the cliff drift moment.
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What's the aspect of this test match that the Springboks need to get right?
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As a fan, what part of the game should we be looking at to focus on?
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I think it's that balance.
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I think it's actually interesting because we've seen last year we started to play a little bit more expansive.
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I was talking about the Tony Ball.
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I think this year with the New Zealand Test Series, that was a very tough series.
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We pretty much went back to South Africa DNA.
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a really strong set piece, playing a pressure game, getting in the right areas on the field, use our big forwards.
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So we haven't really seen the Springboks go out there, expressing players, see our backs taking a bit more chances.
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So I think we might see this on this end of year tour.
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But again, first I'll talk about the balance.
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So that's why Sascha is going to be so important.
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Him and Mornay van Weyck, it's a young pairing.
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So just controlling it first, starting off nice and easy.
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But as the game opens up, as there's opportunities, I would really like to see our backs really have a go.
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I mean, we've got some fantastic backs.
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Our back three is really dangerous.
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So hopefully we can get a little bit more of that balance where...
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First, dominate up front, but then let's have a go with our backs as well.
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And nice, Victor, for the Springboks to obviously be the curtain raiser for the discussion about the All Blacks.
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You didn't ask me about who's going to be the Ram hand-to-hand couriers special guy in the Italian team.
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Well, you can, yeah, we'll go on then.
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Yeah, so Montiwani's playing his 50th test match, and he's a guy that can really inspire, you know, the guys around him.
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And I think Lorenzo Canone.
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So my Ram hand-to-hand couriers is, for me, those two guys.
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They need to have big games.
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Against South Africa, you need guys really playing out of their skin.
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Well, I actually got you on because you're an ex-All Black, and I want to know what's going to happen in the All Black Scotland game.
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So are you happy with the team that's been picked?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously it's been a really, really difficult week for the All Blacks with, you know, Logan, the security guard passing away early in the week.
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And I know the team's been really shaken by that.
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So I think... Can you talk about that, JK, a little bit?
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Because you know, for Victor and some of the South African people that are listening, they might not be aware of what's happened.
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So can you just explain what happened during the week?
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Yeah, so really tragic news.
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Logan's been with the team for 10 years as security, just a really neat man, just a real gentleman, always there, always looking after the boys, always looking after the people around the team.
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And so, you know, just a really sad week.
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And I know it's really shaken the boys.
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So, you know, just condolences to his family.
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And in getting to the team, you know, what Renz has done is he's actually, he's picked a really sort of stable side, you know, it's De Groot, Taylor, Newell, Barrett, Holland, you know, really strong up front, Supervai, Peter Lakai, Wallace Satiti, you know, so it's a team that's been playing a lot together.
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and so he's staying with the tried and true, and I think he'll probably mix the team up next week.
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As I asked Victor, the Ram hand-to-hand couriers person that needs to deliver, who is the one player in the All Black team that you expect to deliver in this game?
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I think...
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Damien McKenzie has been getting confidence from, you know, the team.
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And so he, you know, he's sort of who was our first five.
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And I think he showed in South Africa he was playing fullback and I think he came down and played well against Aussie.
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So I think he'll be, you know, our...
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Ram hand-to-hand couriers guy, I think he'll just step up again and I think he'll need to.
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I think he was the player that scored that try in the last minute last year.
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So I'm really looking forward to him just feeling confident and running that game.
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Victor, Scotland's never beaten the All Blacks.
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Could it happen this weekend?
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Yes.
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They came close last year.
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I think that was probably the opportunity to do it.
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Unfortunately, they didn't take it.
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Look, I must say the Scottish teams are really doing well in the URC.
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In the top four teams were the South African teams.
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So I think the confidence is high.
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They do believe they can have a go at the All Blacks.
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But I just feel after the South African, the rival series, I think the All Blacks and the Springsteen was just on another level.
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What they went through, the physicality, the pressure.
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So I don't see Scotland upsetting the All Blacks this weekend.
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I'm beyond the ABS.
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Someone record that.
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When Scotland were beating the All Blacks.
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Someone record that.
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Yeah, I don't believe it.
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I reckon when Scotland were just about, were ahead of the All Blacks.
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Were you cheering Scotland on, Victor, last season?
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Well, there's a few South Africans in that team, so of course I need to support them.
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And I mean...
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Finn Russell is there, that place where Johan van Kroen is one of my big mates at Bath.
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So I've got a little bit of connection there.
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Yeah, I thought so.
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I thought so.
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Hey, JK.
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Finn Russell, mate.
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Finn Russell is, I just think, an incredible rugby player.
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And the boys will have to shut him down because when he is in a mood, he is one of the best standoffs in the world.
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And so for me, they've got to be winning the contact, putting him under pressure.
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I do like Finn Russell as well, but I must say he's never had a great game against South Africa because of the pressure.
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I think New Zealand has learned something about that pressure game and they've applied it against Australia.
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There will be a lot of pressure on Finn Russell.
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And he's not in great form at the moment.
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He's not playing the best rugby for both.
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They've lost two out of the last three games.
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So I think he'll be under pressure for his position as well in that Scottish team.
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So it will be interesting to see how he steps up.
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I'm just so pleased, Victor, that South Africa have taught us how to deal with pressure.
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Just thank South Africa for that, mate.
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That's bloody good.
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Yeah.
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You haven't quite learned yet because you've lost a series.
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Are you kidding yourself?
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You're not double world champion at the moment.
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You're kidding yourself, mate.
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Seriously.
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As a player, did
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No, I'm an all-black, mate.
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We can't deal with pressure.
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We had to go to South Africa to learn that, you know.
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Pressure's our middle name, mate.
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Pressure's our middle name.
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Well...
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I thought your middle name was James.
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Look, I think clip drift sounds like it's actually got into the water of the show.
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What is the clip drift moment?
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What is the key aspect that the fans need to look for in this All Black Scotland game, JK?
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I think the speed of the game, I think the different weather, different, like in South Africa, the weather was amazing, you know, on top of the ground.
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So I think the style of rugby that was starting to see the all-black players, they need to just find a little bit of balance early.
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They need to, you know, Scotland will come out hissing.
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So I think, you know, the clip drift,
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sort of moment would be for the fans to just watch the pressure that they need to put on Finn Russell and making sure that they're playing a little bit of territory early and then really exploding.
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So try and run the Scottish off their feet, but make sure they get their kicking game right first would be my clip drift sort of moment to look forward to.
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Right.
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So, and just wrapping up, obviously we've got our competition to give away the Isuzu X rider Buckees.
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Is that right, Victor?
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Is it Buckees?
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Buckees.
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Buckees.
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Yes.
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And you just go to ram.co.za backslash competition for that.
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But I just want to perhaps finish on the nation's championship.
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This is what it's all about.
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Excited about the nation's championship, gentlemen?
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Yeah, I think it's coming up.
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There was a little break.
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It's us against you guys running for that number one position.
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We can't play each other in the final, probably like the World Cup next year.
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So I think point difference is also going to be important.
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So I think that's probably why Rossi also picked this pretty strong team, because I think it might even come down to point difference at the end.
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Although I'm still very worried about France next week for us, but hopefully we can get through that well.
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Oh, look, Riccardo, I think for me, I think it's quite exciting.
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I think it's going to be a great competition because it just connects, you know, the two mid-seasons, so July test matches with the end of the year.
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I think it'll take us a little while to understand.
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You know, I think it'd be really cool to...
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So if France win, then I think the final's on Sunday, and if England come second, they're playing on Friday night.
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So I think there's just a little bit of...
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understanding on how that might work when you don't know when or what day you're going to play going into that.
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But that's all part of it.
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I think it'll be great.
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I'm looking forward to it.
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And you're pricking the All Blacks to be in the final, JK?
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Correct, mate.
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Of course I am.
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Well, I think what will happen is we'll go through unbeaten and South Africa will lose to France and Paris.
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And so we'll be number one and then we'll win the final and then we'll be number one, number one and number one and Victor will be number two, number two.
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That's my early prediction.
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It's time to be a nice guy this morning on this show.
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I know it is.
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I'm done.
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I'm not being nice again.
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JK did think they're going to beat us on the tour in South Africa.
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They lost that.
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Then they lost the rivals tour over the full tour as well.
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So what have you won this year?
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You've lost the series in South Africa and you've lost the rival series.
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So two losses.
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Did you not lose to Australia, you guys?
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Yes.
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Did you not go that?
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Were you not watching that weekend?
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What was that for?
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Was it friendly?
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Was it friendly?
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There's no friendly test matches.
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Remember, didn't you almost lose against Steve, French side, in New Zealand?
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Remember that?
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Ricardo, just let's finish this.
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Before we taught you how to do pressure.
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You said you were going to be nice.
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You said you were going to be nice, and it only lasted three breaths.
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I'm done now.
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I wanted to be.
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I've tried my best.
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You just buggered up my Friday, and I'll have to go get some Clippies and Koda.
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Go and have a Clippies and Coke, mate.
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I'm going to add 10.
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Thanks, Jim.
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We'll catch up early next week, and we'll see how this road to the nation's championship final goes.
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Thanks for your time.
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And for another episode of Ram and Ann Currier's Rugby Rivals.
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Codebook Friday.