บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ From Protest to Presence: Beth Green on Spiritual Activism, Ego Alchemy, and the Power of Conscious Oneness

the flag when they added under God to the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:20.080 Not because I wasn't spiritual, but because I didn't believe in church and state. 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.520 And so that was to me a constitutional issue. 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.280 Now I'm nine years old, right? 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:31.039 And Senator McCarthy is on television talking about communism. 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:53.680 And I read a book about the Spanish Civil War and the fascists, and all of these things together, they made me very upset about our world, about the lack of kindness, about the lack of income equality, about the suffering, the needless suffering. 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:59.280 And I just felt like I needed to be a socialist. 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:06.639 Now, to me, socialist had nothing to do with communism, the way it's seen, it's not about China, it's not about Russia. 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:15.360 In fact, the way Marx described it, which I only read many years later, is from each according to his ability. 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:22.159 Of course it would have been his at those days, from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.280 Now, can you argue with that? 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:29.439 I call that the potluck revolution. 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.439 That's what a potluck is. 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.000 It's as American as a potluck. 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:38.800 You bring what you can and you take what you need, and it still brings tears to my eyes. 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.719 And that's what I came to believe in when I was nine years old. 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:51.680 And remember, Senator McCarthy was going around screaming there were communists everywhere and people were being arrested and blacklisted and all of that stuff. 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:59.039 And I stood up and I spoke, and uh that's that's when they started talking about expelling me from elementary school. 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:04.879 Uh, because I mean this is you gotta understand, I was born in 1945. 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:08.560 This is 1954, there's no movement. 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:17.040 And um there was, you know, this never really died in me, this kind of social consciousness and awareness. 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.199 I was very upset about the bomb. 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:30.800 And uh we were in those days, you you had shelter, you know, air aid shelter drills where you got under your desk at school, and that was supposed to protect you in case of a nuclear bomb. 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:38.240 So uh I think I'm a little older than you, Sylvia, so you fortunately do not remember these days. 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:41.199 So, although they're they're they're back in many ways. 00:04:41.360 --> 00:05:03.040 So um this was how it was, and I I wrote a letter to the New York Times, and that letter to the New York Times was about being 16 years old and seeing my my world going towards disaster, or how I perceived it, and that was the the the thinking of the time, and uh it was published all over the world. 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:07.839 It was published by the New York Times, it traveled around the world, it ended up on a Pete Seeger album. 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:19.600 You you may not know who Pete Seeger is, but he was an icon of the movement in the day of a great man, very generous, always was at every rally, every strike, he was out there singing. 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:24.399 He had no interest in money, he just wanted to serve the world. 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:25.920 He's a great person. 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:30.480 And so anyway, I got expelled for that from college. 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:39.360 And uh yeah, so I I know bad times when I see them. 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.680 And uh, you know, I've been here before. 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:46.079 But that set me on a course of it was very, very depressing. 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:51.439 I saw the way the society was structured, I saw the economic system. 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.199 I went to I was given a scholarship to go to an Ivy League school. 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.000 I was ill my entire life. 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:03.360 I was born with a hereditary condition, I became severely ill when I was 15. 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:16.319 And so I'm trying to do all of this with a very, very difficult physical condition that uh nobody could understand at the time and was very debilitating. 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:22.959 I don't know what's happening to my computer, but things are popping up and I'm just popping them back. 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:25.120 We we're we're used to surprises. 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:36.879 Anyway, this is a very long-winted story, so you're wondering, but that's how I became an activist out of caring, out of seeing suffering, out of being moved by the conditions of other people. 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:39.519 Plus, I came from a working class family. 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:41.839 I was born at the end of the Holocaust. 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.480 I mean, how wouldn't that be in my DNA? 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:51.920 I was Jewish, you know, I knew about fascism and suffering and Nazism just with mother's milk. 00:06:52.959 --> 00:07:01.279 And then I became very active in the political movement, um, in the anti-war movement, in the women's movement. 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:02.480 Very, very active. 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:08.079 I was arrested three times, and it was all out of passion and caring. 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:18.160 I never gave one thought to what am I gonna do for a living, or how am I going to it wasn't in my consciousness. 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.560 It was like, how am I going to help? 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.120 Which I know is your mantra too. 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:24.160 How am I gonna help? 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:25.120 What can I do? 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:26.959 The little that I could do. 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:31.439 And

I was totally burnt out by the time I was 35. 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.319 It does happen like that, doesn't it? 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.000 Usually it does. 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:44.319 It has it's what they call the midlife crisis, but for us it's like a turning point. 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.600 Yeah, it is a major moment of shift. 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:49.439 Yes. 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.120 So that was for you. 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:57.279 How did you pivot out of there and to step into a healing space? 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:57.839 I guess. 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.839 Very interesting question. 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:09.839 I was the um for four years, I was the West Coast coordinator of the Wages for Housework campaign where we were trying to get recognition for women's work. 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:14.800 The care the the work of nurturing, the work of caring. 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.560 That's what housework is, is taking care of people. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:35.519 And uh so I was doing that for four years, and at the end of that one, there was a big blow-up in the organization, and the anger and the infighting and and and the misogyny in the movement, how the men were keeping the women down. 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:41.120 And let me tell you, I I was very, very active, but they still wanted me to make the coffee. 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:42.159 It was insane. 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:44.879 But it was something that happened in the organization. 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:50.399 I don't need to go into details of that, and all of a sudden it was it was gone. 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:58.639 They uh they threw me out of they didn't, they wanted me to do something that was wrong, and I just stopped. 00:08:58.799 --> 00:08:59.919 And I had nothing. 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:09.360 I was nobody, I was empty inside, I had been fighting for others uh all my life, and um I was no one. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.480 And at that moment I met a man. 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:17.679 Now he was a full-blown practicing alcoholic. 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.840 He was had been a drug addict, he was a drug addict at the time I knew him. 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:25.919 He was a mess, and he went to uh a 12-step program. 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:33.519 So I called AA and I said, How can I get my boyfriend to stop drinking? 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.759 And they told me to go to Al-Anon. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:41.840 And I thought it I would go to Al-Anon, which was for the families of alcoholics, and they were gonna tell me how to get them to stop drinking. 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:57.519 So and of course it was nothing like that, because it was a spiritual path for people who were in these really painful, difficult relationships of people who were in terrible trouble and were often lost. 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:07.120 And um, but it was a program for the inside, and I I swear to God, Sylvie, it was like a miraculous experience. 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:10.080 One of

that became miracle after miracle. 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:11.360 But this was the first. 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:22.480 I went to this meeting and I looked at these women, because they were all women, because at that time the women stayed with the men and the men left the women who were alcoholic, because we we were the nurturers, right? 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:23.919 You know what I mean? 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:34.000 So what happened is that I looked at their faces and they seemed m better emotionally more peaceful and serene than I was. 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:38.080 And I said, I better sit down, shut up, and listen. 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:39.919 They have something I don't have. 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.360 And I had a spiritual awakening in that moment. 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:52.240 And two years later, because of my terrible health, I went to a holistic chiropractor who sent me to a metaphysical counselor. 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:56.879 He said I was literally the weakest human being he'd ever met, ever met. 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:58.879 They couldn't muscle test me. 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:00.399 You know what muscle testing is? 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:04.559 You go like this, and oh, and I can ask you, are you allergic to this or that? 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.639 They I couldn't hold up my arm, I couldn't hold one muscle. 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.279 I was 35 years old, you know. 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:22.639 And um she turned on a green light, and suddenly I could hold one muscle. 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:27.679 It wasn't a lot, but it was a little bit, and I thought, what is this? 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:37.279 So this was the second miracle, and she starts telling me about past lives, which and then I said to her, and I swear this is the truth. 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.279 I said to her, It didn't happen this way, it happened this way. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:51.360 And I started telling her, like I started seeing things, I had visions, all I needed was a green light, and I just I I had a psychic awakening in an instant. 00:11:52.879 --> 00:12:00.000 Although when I think about it, from the time that I went to Al-Anon, I was hearing the voice of God, but I thought everybody did. 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:05.039 I thought that was just normal, you know, because uh they talk about it in the 12-step program. 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:12.639 But this was really intense, and that day I went home and I called my Al Anon sponsor, and she said, Well, can you do that for me? 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:14.080 And I said, Sure, why not? 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:14.960 Come over. 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:16.879 And that was it. 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:24.720 I started seeing things and counsel, I became a counselor that day, and I have not gotten off that path since. 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:32.879 Now it's been a very tumultuous path, and I love just before our show, you you talked about your path not being linear. 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:41.120 Well, God told me change is nonlinear, slow, nonlinear, and sudden. 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:42.000 Oh yeah. 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.559 It's like the water boils, right? 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:46.399 That's what happened. 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:55.279 So the water boiled and it became steam, and all of a sudden I saw things differently, and I became intuitively guided. 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:59.919 Now, in the process of this, this part you're probably not gonna like. 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:14.639 My guides, I had guides that they were called the ascended masters, doesn't matter who they were, and they started revealing themselves and telling me what to do, and I was very, very trained to stay in that intersection between the human and divine, and that's where I lived. 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:21.519 I was always listening for guidance on everything, what I should eat, if I should make a left turn or a right turn. 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:27.759 That was my training, and that's how I became a counselor, and then they said, We're leaving. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.000 It's time for you to own what you know. 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:31.919 And I said, I don't know anything. 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:38.960 And I had just bought this big house for this organization that I that I was building, and they said, And they said, We're leaving. 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:39.840 I said, Thank you. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.840 They left me with this mortgage. 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.360 Uh anyway, it was it's been like that a wild ride. 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:50.000 In fact, some years ago, God said to me, Beth, there is no God. 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.000 And I want you to teach there is no God. 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:53.360 There is only consciousness. 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:56.639 There is a higher level, and I do I know you don't believe that. 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.639 And I this is not about arguing about different beliefs. 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.039 Beliefs are just the beliefs, it doesn't matter. 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:08.240 It's the essence that God wanted me to teach that it was about consciousness. 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.960 And so that I did that. 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:19.840 I was I uh once I turned somebody turned on a microphone and said, Okay, we're gonna tape you, and I didn't know what topic I was gonna speak on. 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:34.720 And I said, and today I'm gonna speak about God, and that was back in the early 80s, and it was about God being God evolving, and and that everything evolves, including God, and that God is the totality. 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:38.080 And I lost half of my clients overnight. 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:51.039 So every step of the way, Sylvia, it's been I I reached a point where I had to say something that I believed was true or that I thought might be helpful. 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.639 And no matter what the consequence, I have to do it. 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:01.200 So spiritual activism, coming back to your question,

I know I've gone on and on. 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:15.120 I hope this is helpful anyway, um is about coming back to I have to be an activist, I have to do something to help with suffering for the planet suffering, people suffering, animal suffering. 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:22.720 I have to do what I can and and but I have to do it from the perspective of the higher consciousness. 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:27.360 And that means not getting caught up in opinions. 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:39.679 That means always being open to the guidance and coming from a place of connection to the divine and having the guts to do it. 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:49.679 It does take guts to do it because in some cases it's this radical obedience that most people don't understand. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:58.720 And when you're in that position, it feels sometimes you feel a little lonely because you feel like no one else is doing this. 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:00.080 Why me, right? 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:07.600 But we're very gifted in feeling shifts, energy shifts. 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:12.399 We're very gifted in feeling other people's feelings. 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.759 They call them empaths, but I call them highly sensitive people. 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:25.279 And I my husband and I both are HSPs, which can be a little complicated in a marriage, but and I treat them are the same way. 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:39.200 So we have uh an entire family that can sense shifts in energy within each other, and which can be interesting at times, but very gifted and a true blessing. 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:46.320 Now, I don't disagree with you of God being consciousness because God does come to us in thought. 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:47.679 Thoughts. 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:53.519 The thought is the conscious ability of the mind, which most people think, oh, that's subconscious. 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:54.799 Nope, that's not subconscious. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:17:01.840 Feeling is subconscious, but the thought and attitude and choice, that's conscious ability of the mind. 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.279 We don't use it as much on a daily basis as the other one, as the other mind. 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:17.599 But when we learn to use the conscious ability of our mind, it actually can help transform the subconscious beliefs. 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.759 Oh, yes, in a very big way. 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:42.960 Because those beliefs were formed a long time ago when we were faced with modeling and programming and trauma and and experiences good and bad and ugly and all the times that we get in in daily life, and we all have these belief systems that are driving our thoughts and our feelings, and ultimately the results we have in our life. 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:48.000 So I'm in total agreement with you that God does come across in thought. 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:56.480 Mine is a persistent thought, and I know that to me, because I have a faith background and a different journey than yours, yeah. 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:04.559 I do know that's the Holy Spirit guiding me and saying, This is this is where you're meant to go, and this is what you're meant to do. 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:05.039 Yes. 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:07.200 And I don't question it. 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:13.359 I do, and I know I get looks by other people like, why are you doing this? 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.200 Yes, and I'm like, this is great. 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:26.160 This is because this is part of my gifting, this is part of my journey, and it's totally unique to me. 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:36.319 And so I'm actually taking steps to to and I'm not a leader at our church, but to do that, I had to go through a process. 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:41.519 And these questions that they were asking me, I had to dig deep inward. 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:50.799 I go deep and ask God, okay, what is the answer to this question from your perspective? 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:51.359 Yeah. 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:55.759 Um, I've actually taught my husband to do this because I think men struggle with this a little bit more. 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:56.319 Oh, yeah. 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:02.799 Connection with the divine is, I think, more on the woman's side than connected to the divine than men are. 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:05.359 Men are too self-reliant. 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.839 And I and that self-reliant to be. 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.799 They are their ethics, they're supposed to be. 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:26.640 I think they have it in them, but I don't want to interrupt you, but I just want to say I think they have it in them, but they have been so brainwashed and conditioned to pretend that they are self-reliant when nobody is. 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.400 We are only part of the oneness. 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:29.200 Yes. 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:30.960 We're all interconnected. 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:32.640 You and I are connected. 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:33.039 Yes. 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.720 Uh you and my daughter is we're all connected. 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:41.200 And when God puts us in each other's path, it's for a reason. 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:42.880 A very powerful reason. 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:47.039 Your gifts are supposed to align to mine, and vice versa. 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.039 But most people don't see it that way. 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:51.119 They see it as a competition. 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:56.559 Um between men and women, men and women, which is the worst. 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:04.880 I cannot stand competition with between women or men and women because it just defeats the purpose altogether. 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:06.720 Yes, yes. 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.680 And so I'm in total alignment. 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:13.200 There's I don't use different words. 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:14.480 It doesn't matter to me. 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.680 You say Holy Spirit, I know exactly what you're talking about. 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:29.200

Yeah, I you know, it and and and you see, that's why I'm a spiritual activist because I want to do something about the capitalist system, which is all based on competition. 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:29.599 Yeah. 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.839 It's all about profit using people, exploiting people. 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.960 You're talking about okay, in my I wrote a book called I didn't write this book. 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:48.880 I I I have six books. 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:55.200 Uh I I didn't write any of them really, but it's it's nine play, it's called Living with Reality. 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:58.880 And it's about how to evolve spiritually. 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:05.680 And uh and in it I talk about oneness, uh, accountability, and mutual support. 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.119 And those are the three principles of the spiritual activist movement. 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.279 I really have more, it's more detailed than that. 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:18.960 But mutual support means I am here to empower you, you are here to empower me, therefore we are all more empowered. 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.400 We can create through co-creation. 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:26.240 We get because we co-create with the universe. 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:44.799 We don't create, we co-create with the universe in uh uh in a dance of intention and allowance, and we have to be in alignment with that, and we need to support one another instead of so that each one of us can make the contribution that we are there to make. 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:52.240 If you have a child who is sick or is drinking leaded water, they're going to damage their brain. 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:57.359 That child might be the one that could have found the cure for cancer. 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:03.599 I believe we all need health care, we all need clean water, we all need to be encouraged. 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:10.960 We need to learn, we need to learn critical thinking and we need to learn cooperation from the minute we are born. 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.680 We don't even do it, most of us don't even learn cooperation in our families. 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:20.000 Kids are competing with each other, parents are competing with each other. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.839 That's the modeling that we're seeing. 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.359 Plus, we're traumatized. 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:24.720 I so agree with you. 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:26.000 That's why I'm a counselor. 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:40.079 I spend most of my, I mean my work life is counseling people, going back to the origins and using my intuitive gifts to help people to face things they don't want to face about themselves. 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:46.720 Because we are so brainwashed and so conditioned, we think this is God's will. 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:48.640 This is the way it has to be. 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:50.079 And it isn't. 00:22:50.559 --> 00:23:03.839 And so I think that I was, you know, if you use the term God or the concept God, it's there see God told me not to believe anything, just to acknowledge that beliefs are just beliefs. 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:10.240 When they're useful and helpful, keep them, and when they're not helpful, get rid of them. 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:13.680 Or shift them, empower them. 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.799 Because I say the ego is the the enemy. 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.759 I said the ego is not the enemy, the ego is the self-image. 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.759 The self-image is comprised of bad beliefs, shift them. 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:30.880 Yes, you just shift them, you don't change them, you just from I'm not enough to I am enough. 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.400 Or whatever it is, I'm a loser, I'm a winner. 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.160 I mean, there's there's it's it's just shifting them. 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.799 It's it's displaying the lies within you. 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:42.799 The lies performed long ago. 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:43.920 My goodness. 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:48.720 Like these things formed long, long ago, before the age of two years old. 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.680 Yes, and we're still holding on to them as truth. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.759 I'm not held on to mine forever. 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:55.440 I know it was so exhausting. 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:12.480 And then finally, I had the near-death experience I experienced in 2012, and facing six doctors and saying, Well, you have an 80% chance of dying, and you likely won't survive the night and meeting a miracle, and I received three within 72 hours. 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:17.920 Well, that kind of shifts your per purpose and perspective dramatically. 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:24.319 It's not right away because you know, we're human and fallible and we're stubborn. 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:25.279 At least I am. 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.160 You said you were born weird, well, I was born stubborn. 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:34.720 And so, my you know, God's saying, My stubborn child, let me wake you up. 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:40.400 And since you don't listen to me and you haven't listened to my promptings, I need to use your choice. 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.079 And I'm gonna just just a little pain. 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:45.359 You're gonna feel a little pain. 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.559 I'm just gonna wake you up and I need you to listen. 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.960 And so I listened after my three miracles because it was hard not to. 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:59.519 And uh and then I just I started to ask the deeper questions of why am I here? 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:00.720 Like, why did I survive? 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:08.960 When so many people die from pulmonary embolisms, I had multiple, I had so many, the doctors were like astounded. 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.880 I even walked in, I walked in unassisted to the hospital. 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:20.720 I was in deep pain, and I should have died multiple times, but I survived, and they were

all in shock. 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:29.920 And at the end of my three miracles, when the doctors come in and they're like in total disbelief, yeah, that there is no evidence of of illness. 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:31.359 I had already been told by God. 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:47.599 He had already made his appearance known in the ICU with my boyfriend who ended up being my my husband, and we both felt his love and we both felt peace in an instant, and a knowing washed over me that I was okay, that I had received my second chance. 00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:57.119 And from that moment on, I have had a very different relationship with myself and with God, because myself and God are one. 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:02.480 It's this oneness approach that we must use with others. 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:08.880 When we when God loves us, he loves us completely and wholly. 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:15.279 Like every all of our mistakes, all of our faults, he does all of it. 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.440 The way he loves us is the way we are meant to love other people. 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:23.599 But we don't understand that concept because we don't. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.319 Before then, it didn't make sense to me. 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:48.559 He tells you, like the conscious unconsciousness for you, that made sense to you because he created you differently with a different different part of his plan because his sheep are all different and they all think differently. 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:55.759 And he came to me years ago and said, Sylvia, I need you to go find my lost sheep and bring him back to me. 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:07.359 Okay, so you so I ended up having to learn all these other modalities because I had to meet people exactly where they were, whether they believed in him or not. 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:12.160 Yeah, I was there to guide them back to him calmly and peacefully. 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.839 None of this fighting, none of this, oh my gosh, you guys are gonna fight it up. 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:16.319 Nope. 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.000 None of that came into play. 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:34.960 And for people that I call myself a Christian now, in the Christian world, I would be an abomination because I talk to different sectors that are not necessarily who they believe are Christ's followers, right? 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.240 They're not prejudiced, you know, prejudiced enough. 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.079 That's your problem, Sylvia. 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:44.480 So I keep there and I go, okay. 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:51.839 But you know, I've had my my direction from God, and I am obedient. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.200 I don't question him, I just simply do. 00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:03.680 Yes, and I do it through this podcast, I do it through my books, I do it when I speak to others, when I share testimony. 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.440 This is a thing for you. 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:11.839 I'm imagining, I'm feeling from you that you get the same intuitive hits that I get. 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:27.279 I get visions, you get visions, probably as well, and we just feel like our way through life, which for some people that's hard to do because in our world, we're told you need to control your circumstances. 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.400 Yeah, that's what a joke. 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.240 And there is no control, that's an illusion. 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:34.799 Exactly. 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.960 Of our mind, just like perfectionism, there is no perfection. 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:40.880 He's perfect, we're not. 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:48.799 I say God isn't perfect, and neither are we, but it's we're really saying the same thing using different words. 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:50.160 What's something different? 00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:51.200 And you're so right. 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.000 We're we're built differently, we have different purposes. 00:28:54.240 --> 00:29:01.119 See, the way I see it, and and all which is so much in alignment with what you're saying, is well, let me tell you what God told me once. 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.279 I wrote a book called God's Little Aphorisms. 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:09.200 And one of the because I, you know, I would get these zingers from the source that I you know it just came from nowhere. 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:10.880 And I know I'm not that smart. 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.119 You know, I'm smart, but I'm not that smart. 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:19.039 And and uh so I was berating myself for not for making a mistake or not knowing something. 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:25.759 And God said to me, Beth, if I had meant you to know everything, I wouldn't have had to create other people. 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.160 Yes. 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.319 Yes, we are made for a job. 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.400 I am I am designed to be who I am. 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:41.359 I'm a musician. 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:59.039 I'm the you know, I I I have a political background so that I can go out into the world now and I can talk about the society from the perspective from the spiritual perspective that is a part of me that is so much a part of me, I I couldn't lose it if I wanted to. 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.480 I think you get to to begin with. 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:08.160 I think it'd be like yeah, see my role will come into play and I will, you know, it'll come back. 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.119 Um, I mean, this is the relationship I have with them. 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:12.640 It's a really interesting relationship. 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:16.240 And my kids often will say, Mom, are you talking to yourself again? 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:17.599 Are you talking to him? 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.200 And I'm like, Oh, I'm talking to him. 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:24.400 He's sitting right next to me, and like, wow, the belly right next to me as I'm driving the car. 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:25.039 Yeah. 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:31.680 But I it's a

very natural relationship that I want them to understand with ourselves and with him. 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.839 And yes, you're right. 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.759 We do use different language, but the message is quite the same. 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:38.319 Right. 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.400 The energy behind it is the same. 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.359 The intention behind it is the same. 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.400 The consciousness behind it is the same. 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.319 And I I I love this. 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:58.240 And I love I've always felt very close to people who were extremely religious in a real way, because they're hearing the same message I am. 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:08.240 And it's it hurts to see people using religion in order to demean others or hurt other people, or exclude them completely. 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:18.799 I wrote a post not too long ago on uh you know excluding people because they loved different genders. 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:19.279 Yeah. 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:26.960 And that really hit a nerve, but it also forced people to think about things. 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.839 Because you see, I used Jesus' ministry. 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:38.319 I said, if you look at Jesus' life when he came to earth, yeah, he included women, which in those years was a big no-no. 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:39.039 Oh, yeah. 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.839 And then he included thieves because Peter or Simon was a thief. 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:49.279 Yes, and you know, they were the outcast, the tax collectors. 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.640 Who would be the outcast today in society? 00:31:52.880 --> 00:32:01.279 And these uh they're like, well, homosexuality would be the outcast, quote unquote, or the gender, the different genders and the different sex. 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.440 And the immigrants as well, by the way. 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:08.160 And the immigrants, yeah, they would be considered the outsiders, right? 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.400 Yeah, what would Jesus say? 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:11.920 Yeah, exactly. 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.160 What would his opinion be? 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.160 And why was the plan standing so enlightening to people? 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:22.160 And people are like, and you're a Christian, and I said, Yes, I'm a Christian. 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:35.839 And but I also think that the Christians that believe this need to stand up because it will balance out what the true, like the difference between religion and faith. 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.799 Because you see, I'm not really I don't consider myself religious. 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:39.359 Yeah. 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.440 See, Jesus didn't work. 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.279 Jesus didn't work for it. 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.720 Jesus didn't consider himself religious if you think about it. 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.359 He didn't agree with the Pharisees. 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:54.240 He was constantly against them, constantly calling them out for the rules. 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.119 You and I and Jesus were been friends because I was always the level. 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.799 I was always breaking the rules, going against the string. 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.400 And and people were like, Why are you saying these things? 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.319 It was so different. 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:18.160 Well, it's because we were built to be these different people that had people question their motives. 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:19.519 Why are you doing this? 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.359 What is the purpose behind this? 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.119 Yeah, your purpose is to draw people closer to him. 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:26.400 You're not. 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:35.279 But the way you're you're attacking them and you're using scripture, his word, to exclude people, he'd be he'd be so excited. 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.319 He'd be horrified with that. 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.200 So I'm always the one that steps in and defends him and says, No, no, no, no, no. 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:44.640 See, that's not what God wants. 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.960 This is not what Jesus would say yes to. 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.839 This is not the way he wants this done. 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.839 He wants us to love him and love others the way he with us. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.640 That's it. 00:33:58.799 --> 00:33:59.680 That's what he wants. 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:06.400 Isn't that what uh isn't that the saying what you do unto the least of my brethren you do unto me? 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:07.200 Yes. 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.079 How can you possibly justify this behavior? 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.519 But you see, this is where the ego comes in. 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:16.719 And I agree with you. 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:20.639 The ego, I think of it as the ego twice-born. 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:30.639 It's the ego evolves, and when the ego starts to support us in the right way, then the ego is twice twice born. 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:38.719 But the ego is born in our infancy, you know, we're like immediately fighting for ourselves, we're out of the womb, and we've got to fight for ourselves. 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.760 And then our whole, you know, uh the we learn how to manipulate, we learn how to get what we want. 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.440 We we don't, we're not taught to care about other people. 00:34:49.840 --> 00:35:11.519 And this kind of survival mechanism that in in the living with reality, the introduction is called ego, instinct, and evolution, and it's all about how the ego comes into play and how it runs us, these old patterns run us for the rest of our lives, and it makes us blind, it makes us short-sighted, it makes us self-centered, we don't understand the oneness. 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:18.480 You know, God gave me another uh aphorism, which was you can't clean the air over one house in Los Angeles. 00:35:18.639 -->

00:35:22.320 So if you think you're gonna make a great life for yourself, you're wrong. 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:36.320 Because if you're living in a sick world, if you're living in a depressed world, if you're living in an angry world, if you're living in wherever people are poor and can't get their needs met, your life is damaged. 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:48.639 You can, I don't care how many walls you build, you still have that stinking air over you, you know, that pollution, because that is something we have to do collectively. 00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:57.599 We have to heal the collective on an emotional level, on a spiritual level, as you're talking about, and also deal with the collective. 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:07.360 I have something called the New Declaration of Independence, and uh that God told me to write the new, you know, God keeps popping in, even though he says there is no God. 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.039 So I mean I understand the subtleties of things are nuanced. 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.039 These are these are all human concepts. 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.039 You know, we think in human concepts, so I laugh about it. 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.760 In fact, once in the early days, I asked my guides, I said, Do you exist? 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.840 And they said, What do you care? 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.639 Is this helping or not? 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.360 So if it's helping, use it. 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.360 If it's not, get rid of it. 00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:34.639 So I get it. 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:43.440 It's like, oh, where when you w get into the oneness, there are no concepts, there are no distinctions, you're just kind of like you know. 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:55.760 God gave me an analogy too about uh the white light, which I think you might enjoy, which is um that if you look at the white light and you put it through the prism, you'll see all these colors. 00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:14.400 But it's really all the aspects of the white light, and that to me is what God is, is the totality and all these things that we're afraid of, including anger, including h you know, there there's no duality in reality. 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:15.679 It's all oneness. 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:25.679 But we have to learn how to deal with these emotions and not let them dominate us because they are we're run by our guts. 00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:29.119 We people think that they're rational, but they're not. 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:47.599 Uh, you know, i it's wonderful being a counselor because I get to see irrationality irrationality uh in action every day and try to get to the depth of what was the trauma, what was the treen training, what was it that got you to think this way? 00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:54.239 Because not everybody is gonna have like the miraculous transformational moment that you had. 00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:03.440 A lot of people it's like you know, there these things, these beliefs have roots, and you've got to go in there and you've got to pull them all out. 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.280 Because if you don't pull them all out, they're gonna drag you back. 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:16.719 And so as a counselor, that is my job is to go in there and pull out all the roots of the things that are self-destructive and destructive to others. 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:25.360 And the ego just gets so wrapped up in defending you in its own egoic way, it thinks it's the hero. 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.519 It does, it takes on the hero's journey, and it's not. 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:40.400 It's not, it's just one aspect, it's the mind aspect of it, it's the the the belief that that are driving these results. 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:50.559 That's all it is, and so it's identifying and becoming aware of what those beliefs are, shifting them, empowering them rather, which is what I discuss in my first book. 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:59.199 Well, my the second edition of my first book, it's the same theme of like the ego, the soul, and spirit becoming one. 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:03.199 And it's that life's journey is all about that. 00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.679 It's about aligning all three together because the soul has always been there. 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.039 This person that God created you to be, she's always been there. 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:17.280 Yes, it's just now you've got to make sure that these layers aren't on top, mucking it up. 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:18.480 Exactly, exactly. 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:24.719 Remove, remove a line and move forward as a one piece. 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:29.199 When he talks to us, we listen, we obey, we move through life. 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.519 We are the God that's talking to us. 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.480 We are we are one with the God that's talking to us. 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.599 I my will is your will is God's will. 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:47.360 That's we're one, we're one with him, and so we there is no I'm a loser because he doesn't create losers. 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:48.159 That's right. 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:48.800 That's right. 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.000 He's not a loser, so that's I'm not a loser. 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:53.599 The great I am. 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.119 This is why in coaching the I am statements are so powerful. 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:01.760 Yeah, because we are in essence identifying ourselves as him. 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:02.480 Yeah. 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:14.159 Or however you see God, you know, because we have the uh feminine and the masculine divine, and you know, man, however, it works for you, and however it makes sense to you, use whatever. 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:19.360 But the truth is the oneness aspect is the message that needs to be clear. 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.199 And I know that that's been your purpose. 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:22.480 It sounds like it, right? 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.159 Oh, all my life. 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:25.119 All my life. 00:40:25.280

--> 00:40:31.920 That was when I was five years old and I was lecturing people, and I I didn't have any idea that there was anything unusual about that. 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:33.440 It was all about oneness. 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:43.599 I didn't like the way that the Jewish people, because I was grew up Jewish, how they were treating the Jewish immigrants that were coming over after the Holocaust. 00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.519 They called them greenhorns. 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.960 And you know, how could you do that? 00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:49.760 No, no. 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.280 You just don't, but it's the the prejudice, you know. 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.599 But that's why you but that's why you're here. 00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.440 You release the doubt and you revealed your purpose at the age of five. 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:00.960 So that's pretty cool. 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:02.480 Most people don't get that. 00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:09.840 You know, some of us don't get until we we are forced into a corner, like I was, and we're like, okay, here comes your purpose. 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:10.559 Ready? 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.239 Here comes. 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:20.639 Um, but and and some people live their whole life and never understand the concept of oneness. 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:21.119 They don't. 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:22.880 No, they no, they don't. 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:23.679 They really don't. 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:25.840 They think it has to do with being the same. 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:33.280 It has nothing to do with being the same, it's about being an integrated whole, that we together are God. 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.159 You know, it is not me or you. 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:45.199 I am, you know, but I mean, I think people have really distorted all of that and used the the spirituality in uh service to the ego. 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:45.920 Yes. 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:56.800 And go it shows his purpose to to show us the contrast of what once was, the way we believed, and who we are now becoming. 00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:04.639 And it's okay, you know, to have that contrast, but realize that it's not who you are, who you were created to be. 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.159 It's just the layers of your experiences. 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:09.519 That's what ego is. 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:10.239 That's what it is. 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:15.679 I have another thought about the ego that it's there to tell you that you need to put on a sweater. 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:25.119 It's the thought that protects you in a healthy way, and that's it, but not to have it dominate your whole life. 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:31.199 I see people, they're so self-protective, they can't do anything, but what are they protecting? 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:38.159 They're not really protecting their inner beings, they're not living an authentic life, they don't love themselves. 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:47.840 They're busy drinking and taking drugs and womanizing and being angry and climbing the ladder to success. 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:58.000 And they will never get that peace that only comes from that feeling of connection to everything that come and I don't always feel it either. 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:03.440 You know, when I read the news, my stomach turns, and then I have to go back into the I am that. 00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:05.440 That's one of my favorite phrases, I am that. 00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:18.239 So I wanted to tell you about the new Declaration of Independence only because when God told me that I was supposed to write this a couple of months ago, um, I went and I read the Declaration of Independence, and it's about life, livity, and the pursuit of happiness. 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:22.559 And it says if the government is getting in the way of that, you have a right to abolish it. 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.800 So I say, okay, guys, we have a right to abolish this. 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:31.119 Uh this is the the capitalist system is based on ego. 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:32.480 It's all about me. 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:34.480 It's all about me. 00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:39.920 So, and I can go into the political and economic analysis, but well, I don't need to do that here. 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.440 So it's not, but it isn't about me, it's about we. 00:43:43.920 --> 00:44:07.440 And what we need to do is get rid of a system that feeds that, that feeds that you have to compete to survive, you have to take from someone else that it's not about uh the we, it's not about the universe, and then substitute for it something different and look forward to a positive vision. 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:21.280 And I believe it's really important to have a positive vision, and I talk about things like corporations that have workers on their boards, not just not having this one is exploiting the weaker. 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:29.039 How do we build up everybody's strength, everybody's power, everybody's well-being in the society? 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:35.840 And I believe that the purpose of an economy is to meet the needs of people in the earth. 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:41.119 Yes, yes, it is, and that's the way he taught us in his life. 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.159 Like it was about making everybody better. 00:44:44.320 --> 00:45:00.480 And that's that's the message I want to leave the listeners or release out with today, because what you and I have talked about and discussed, there's a lot of prosal wisdom shared without asking the question of the tips and the you know of what we would do in Crossroads. 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.679 You shared all of that with your story of transformation. 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:11.920 Thank you, Beth, for being here and for sharing your story and your heart and your vulnerability, because not everybody has the courage. 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:17.760 I know you said you were born weird, but not everybody has the courage to like talk about these things openly. 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.360 They they want to hide. 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:31.119 And I appreciate you coming here and discussing this this subject matter that really needed to be discussed, especially in the in the turbulent times we find ourselves in. 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:42.639 We need more of the messages of oneness, of hope, yes, of peace, because there's a lot of people with a lot of anxiety right now, especially in on the world stage. 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:48.000 So any last-minute words you want to leave our listeners with, Beth. 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:51.119 Don't give up. 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.320 Don't ever give up. 00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.360 Don't ever give up searching for your inner self. 00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:09.440 Don't ever give up for standing up for your real self and not for the make-believe self that we create for the world in order to get ahead. 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:22.559 No, there are people planted out there everywhere who are standing up, who are trying to do the right thing, that deep inside us we are all the same. 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.679 We all have compassion, we all have courage. 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.719 Some of us, it's been beaten out of us. 00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:39.199 And and and not not to judge the people who are doing wrong, but to try to extend a hand and know that deep inside us we are one. 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:40.880 I love that. 00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:41.679 I love that. 00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:44.000 Thank you so much for joining us, Beth. 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:48.480 I will send you the clip when it's available. 00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:53.199 And to the listeners of Release Doubt, Reveal Purpose, remember Matthew 5.14. 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:54.400 Be the light. 00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:55.920 Have a wonderful week. 00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:56.719 Stay safe. 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:57.280 Love ya. 00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:58.880 Thank you so much. 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:00.320 Bye-bye. 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:07.280 So that's it for today's episode of Released Out Reveal Purpose. 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.519 Head on over to iTunes or wherever you listen and subscribe to the show. 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:16.639 One lucky listener every single week who posts a review on iTunes. 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:25.519 We'll win a chance to grand prize drawing to win a twenty-five thousand dollar private VIP day with Sylvia Worsham herself. 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:36.320 Be sure to head on over to release out at reveal purpose podcast.com and pick up a free copy of Sylvia's gift and join us on the next episode.