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This episode is presented by Vauxhall.
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So Josh, News UK have voted the new Vauxhall Frontera
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as the value car of the year 2025.
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Rightly so.
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Do you know why I can say that, Rob?
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Why?
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And you know this, I've test driven one.
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Oh yeah, and I've been test passenger.
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I got to drive the Frontera. Thoughts? A, the tech
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was so good, right, that it was just simple and.
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I felt like it.
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Was my car the moment we were moving.
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Yeah?
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We had loads of boot room.
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You saw that.
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Oh, I had a little peek in the back.
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I was thinking, this is perfect for a family. It
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was spacious.
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It was easy to use.
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And do you know what as well? No offence. I
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wasn't too near you.
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No.
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No, exactly.
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There's so much space in the front. I didn't feel
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like I was touching you. I couldn't smell you. It
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was great.
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It's available in electric. It's available in petrol hybrid. The
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electric is cheaper. It is available from... £ 23, 995. Ah, that
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sounds like.
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Value to me, Josh.
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That's great value.
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Great value, top value.
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Do what I did, Rob. Test drive the new Vauxhall
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Frontera today. Discover more by searching Vauxhall Frontera online.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with.
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Rosie, can you say Josh Widdicombe?
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Josh Widdicombe.
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And can you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett.
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Good girl. Do it again. She wants to do it again.
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No chance. Gone. Sent. Yeah.
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This is my 36-month-old Rosie saying your names.
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Three.
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Yep.
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I started listening only in.
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July this year.
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What?
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Michael, get us another fucking clip from someone who cares.
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No, no, she does care.
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No.
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She's not refused to listen for five years. She's just failed.
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Sally, what is your effing problem?
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You've got to understand, Josh, we live in a world
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where not everyone knows about Josh Willicam, okay? And they're
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coming to you fresh.
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I refuse to believe that. Everyone's made their mind up,
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good or bad.
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I love listening to the pod while out walking with
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Alice in a pram or our dog, Kevin. My partner
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always takes the piss out of me when he sees
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me listening to the pod as it makes me laugh
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out loud and I just look like a weirdo chuckling
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to myself. See the couples that I get.
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Coming to my show. Why take the piss out of.
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His wife enjoying herself.
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Yeah. He's jealous.
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Men that she finds funnier than her own husband.
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He's just annoyed that she's got men inside her ears
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making her giggle. And he don't like it. His ego
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can't take it.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for being mint company on my walks. Keep
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it sexy and relatable, Sally from Manchester.
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I've got nothing against anyone inside Lou's ears.
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She's also called Sally Walsh.
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So.
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Sally Walsh.
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It fits with today's guest.
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Sean Walsh.
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Sean Walsh.
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The repeat, the second, the sequel.
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The sequel.
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He was on before?
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He was on before. It's third time. Wow.
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So he's got two kids now.
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Has he been on with a second?
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Can't remember. We'll find out.
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We'll find out. But he's got two under two, and
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I know how bad that is.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And he messaged me a few days ago saying how
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he's struggling.
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Well, that's good. That's what we want to hear.
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I think he's going to come in stressed, and it's
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going to be perfect. And his tour's starting soon, so
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he's going to be vulnerable.
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Yeah, yeah. So should we really twist the knife?
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Yeah, let's try and get him crying.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But this is the challenge.
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Click it up for Insta. Yeah, yeah.
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And watch the clicks roll in.
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Yeah, but we really want to get him crying on Insta.
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but we're not allowed to talk about anything that's gone on.
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We want a new thing to get him crying about.
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Okay.
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Let's see. I don't actually want him to cry.
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I feel really bad, actually.
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No, I'd feel awkward. It'd be horrible.
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How would you feel if our guest cried? I'd feel
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so awkward.
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Yeah, and I'd feel bad because I'd feel like... Oh, God.
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And then what do you do? Does Stephen Bartlett give
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them a tissue or something?
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Let's be honest today. We're sat... In a small room,
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no disrespect to the room, in Spotify. Yeah, we want
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no disrespect to the room. And, like, there's someone crying
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there who's only here to promote a tour, and suddenly
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they're crying, as if that's going to sell any tickets.
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To a comedy show.
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To a comedy show.
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I'm going to come and see your show. I saw
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you being really sad.
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On a podcast. Yeah, let's not get him crying. No,
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he won't.
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Let's take that back. He's not going to cry. We'll
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be all right.
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Here he is.
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No, so talk us through this. Because actually, we've spoke
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about the shoe trainer before. As dads, they're important.
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I don't believe in the shoe trainer.
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But I don't know why, despite wearing the shoe.
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So Sean's come
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I can see you're looking at these.
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I was worried about it. And neither of us were
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looking at them.
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What I was more concerned with, you've got like a
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smart shirt on a jumper and a baseball cap. Is
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that to avoid people recognising you?
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I'm a big deal in West London. Yeah, I have
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to have the cap down. No, it was raining. So
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the cap, it keeps the glasses dry, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Glasses, people?
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Yeah, you're right. I thought there must be a reason.
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So you worried about the trainer show? Yeah, very much so.
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You look really well, though. Do I?
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I think you look really... I thought you were going
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to look more... I like that shirt. Your hair looks good.
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Glasses are great and you look quite healthy and the
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beard's on point.
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Okay. I think you look good.
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This is lovely.
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Thank you. Top up, head up.
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It's a shame we've done this in person on Zoom.
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You would have smashed it.
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Do you have, do you have, so this is to
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be more specific. No, I don't have trainer shoes.
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It's the smart, it's a brogue. I tell you why
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I don't have trainer shoes because I'm not a pundit
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on Football Focus.
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No, they're just trainers that are dark with.
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A white sole. These are brogues with a white trainer base.
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What do you call it? Sole.
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They are a smart shoe, but the sole is of
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a walking shoe trainer.
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Yes, but this is a white sole. This is a
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white sole.
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Is the sole actually bouncing soft like a trainer or
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is it just white like a trainer?
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No, it's a bit of bounce. That's why I've got it.
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Is this because you're kind of entering dad middle age?
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Do you reckon that's adjacent with lower back problems? Yes.
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I don't think it's the dad thing. I think it's
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just being older and your body can't take... Well, I
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got lower back.
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Problems when I had our second baby because he wouldn't
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be put down. So I was constantly... holding.
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on the lower back.
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wouldn't sit that he wouldn't he wouldn't even let us
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sit so you're constantly stood and walking holding.
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Yes i can't now i i have to wear like
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a running trainer or something of a bit of bounce
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yes so when i have to wear shoes for anything
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like a smart gig or a corporate I'm a mess.
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A hard shoe sole. It's like walking on glass.
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I'm just like, this is not okay. You're like, why
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is anyone doing this?
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I've actually bought, and I sent you the link, I
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bought a pair of loafers when I was in Japan,
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because in Japan, ASICs now do smart shoes, but it
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hasn't got like the white thing on to show you.
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They're all black, so it looks like smart shoes, but
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with ASICs.
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Camouflage.
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Kids used to get in trouble at school for wearing
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a black trainer. Like at secondary school, some kids would
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try and get.
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Away with a black train. Yes, you're right. It never
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pulled the wool over their head. The bubble gave it away.
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The lights on the bottom. I got told by, what
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did I see? I've seen them all, but I think
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it was the physio that said that what's happened is
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the reason I've got a bad lower back is because
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I have a flat left foot. So what's happened is
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my right knee, you start hearing this phrase, you've probably
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heard it used for yourselves, maybe overcompensating?
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Oh yeah, for my personality. I've been accused of that loads.
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He presents confident.
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I'm physically doing it. So the right knee had to
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compensate for the left foot. So the right knee went out,
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but it overcompensated. And then the left side of my
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hip had to compensate for my right knee. And that overcompensated,
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which has twisted my background. And the doctor, well, it
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was the doctor, the physio told me, and these were
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his exact words, that for my entire life, I've been
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facing the wrong way. LAUGHTER I don't know how you
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don't know that. I've been like a kind of toy
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figure that's not been straightened up after you've played with it.
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Is that why you walk back and forth on stage
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so much?
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Yes, exactly. To try and line up.
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Have you ever been to a chiropractor? Yes, I've been
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to them all. Yeah, so that helped me because I've
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got a hypermobile hip which then makes.
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Because it spreads out. See, which then does something else.
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Yeah, and then that does my lower back and that's
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why I have to wear special shoes as well.
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Have I told you that when I went to a hypnotherapist?
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So I went to a hypnotherapist for insomnia and halfway
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through he stopped because an eBay auction he was doing
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was finishing.
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No. And I was like, is this part of it? Like,
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is this part of what's happening to me?
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So he stopped, won an eBay auction and then resumed
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the kind of consultation.
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Did it fix it? No. No, okay. So eBay's not working.
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I find that insomnia, it's always more intriguing because if
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someone says they've got a bad back, I just take
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it as, oh, they've got a bad back. If someone goes,
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I've got insomnia, I just talk about how much you're sleeping.
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Premature ejaculation. All right, well, how quick. Yeah, I mean,
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there's always an.
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Extra follow-up question.
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Where you do a quick bit of comparison to diagnose yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't have insomnia.
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I was having a breakdown. Right, okay.
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That was a symptom, not the cause.
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It was a symptom, yeah. And I refused to accept the.
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Both therapists and doctors were making that clear to me,
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so I went to a hypnotherapist to try and prove
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that it was just insomnia.
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Yes, that's it.
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I don't know. I don't like your diagnosis. Dentist. I'm
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going to go to the dentist now.
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I'm going to go for a second opinion, and that's
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Paul McKenna.
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Third opinion. Oh, dear.
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Well, it's good to know that we're all old men
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in our.
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40s falling apart.
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So tell me about your children.
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Here we go. So last time there was one. Yeah.
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Now there's two. As you both know, everyone... There's a
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third on the way. Oh, God, no. Jesus wept.
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Be aware that if you do have a third child,
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they will hear that.
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Come on, guys. Please.
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Three is mad, isn't it?
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That's insanity. Are we all staying here at two? Oh, yeah.
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The only way that we go three is some sort
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of problem.
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Yeah. Like a different man getting involved.
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Yeah, Lou Essex with another man.
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Lou Essex. Yeah. But so the jump from, you know,
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this is standard now. The jump from one to two
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is it's not just one to two. It's kind of
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one times. Yes. Isn't it?
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You're there quite. There's a was it two year age
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gap bang on to your pretty, pretty much two under
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two when your baby arrived.
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Yeah. He's he's eight months. She's about to turn three.
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So it's a bit over?
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Yeah, a bit over, but.
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Yeah. It's a lot, isn't it? Yes. I'm tired.
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Talk to me about your last night. Well, let me
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tell you... Last night? Well, like, talk to me... Well,
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let me just tell you.
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What happened? Because you might have forgotten the levels of exhaustion.
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Are you still exhausted? Or have you got through this? Well,
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not since I went to the hypnotist.
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His strike rate's phenomenal.
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Also, I've got a rave flyer that he bought for £ 12.
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50 for me. That's what he was buying on eBay. Unbelievable.
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An old rave flyer.
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Oh, my God. This is fucking lunatic.
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Yeah, exactly.
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This wasn't in London. Was this in London?
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Yeah, of course it was in London.
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Where did you find him?
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Online.
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Yeah.
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You Googled the hypnotist.
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Hypnotherapist.
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And how many did you scroll down?
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Well, no, I didn't bother scrolling down.
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The sponsored.
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Yeah, the sponsored.
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I turned up early and he said, of course you're early. Insomniacs,
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early because they want to be cured. Smoking, always late
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because they don't want to be cured.
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That's a good, that's a good line.
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Yeah, good line, good line. He knows that as well. Yeah.
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And you hear that and then you leave and you
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hear him say that to the next person and so on.
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And you feel good because like, yeah, I'm one of
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the ones that won it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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I bet he doesn't say that to the smokers. And
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he had like loads of, lighters on his wall where
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people had handed in their lighters.
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Sorry, Josh, we've invited Sean on to talk about his
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children and his tour. We're now just listening to you talk.
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About your therapy. It was West London. You like West London.
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I do like West London.
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This is the most mental power play. Sean's exhausted. He's
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got another talk show to wrap up.
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I am exhausted.
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And you've brought him in
and now he's.
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Got a nod. It's our fourth interview of the day.
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I know. I can't believe you're on your fourth. I'm
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getting the dregs. The absolute. You are like, both of you,
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low on battery. No, I'm full of beans.
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No, good, good.
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No, I am. I am. I was in Kennington recently
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and I had had no sleep because of the kids.
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Have you ever been at this point... I was walking
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down the street on the pavement and I noticed that
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it was clear. No people, no bins, no lampposts. And
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I thought, I'm going for it. And I did it
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with my eyes shut. And that's where I got my nap.
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I was walking with my eyes closed. I'm trying to
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combine walking and sleeping. Amazing. To try and make myself
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kind of active sleepwalk from destinations.
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In answer to your question, we're not as tired as
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we were when they were there.
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When I have a bad night, when something happens, like
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I get back late from a tour show and then I.
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Have to get up, I go, oh, this is what
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it felt like.
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You get little flashbacks to it when you've got it
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every day.
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So what have I got to look forward to? Does
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it get easier? This fucking mess. Yeah.
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He's in the clear. You're looking at a man on
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Easy Street.
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Don't move three hours from your studio. That's my take.
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That's the lesson there.
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The clouds will clear in about two years.
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Two years. That's what I've got to look forward to.
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How is Christmas? Because Christmas is tough with kids that
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don't care.
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No, no, no, no.
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Wilder's about to turn three.
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No, no, no, but like one young kid that doesn't care.
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I don't think... Our Christmas wasn't tough. I've never been
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a Christmas guy.
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No.
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Because, as you both know, my dad was into heroin. Yeah. But,
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of course, what that means is that Christmas isn't... It's
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not necessarily a priority in the Walsh household.
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Is it nice, though, for you? Because in a way,
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as a parent, the pressure's off because you're already offering
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a much calmer household than what you experienced.
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Oh, no, because I think... No, you're quite calm on heroin.
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I'll give you an example. I don't know the high,
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but me and my brother were playing FIFA on the PS1.
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So 32-bit. Remember those graphics? And my dad, he was
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sat there in the living room smoking heroin whilst we
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were playing this. And he thought, genuinely, hand on heart,
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he thought he was watching Match of the Day. That's
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how off his nut he was. He thought a 32-bit...
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playstation one feta was match of the day i.
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Thought this was match of the day i no wonder
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i was confused because it was qpr versus qpr it
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was 90s before half time nine bicycle kicks i'm outside
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the box impressive game so what's his role.
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Now oh my god my dad is i love my
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dad and you know but he's obviously scorched his brain
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for god's sake he's in his he's in his 70s
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but you know He got my daughter's, God bless him.
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He got his, and my brain, unfortunately, you know, I mean,
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he's my dad. So there are things that are being
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passed down. He got my daughter's name right for the
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first time a couple of weeks ago. Oh, really?
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You know, that's nearly.
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Three years in and wilder. You got it. Well done.
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And one of the, I can only remember one of
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the guesses up until that point.
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See, what I thought you was going to say when
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you said my dad got, I thought he was going
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to tell us about a Christmas present, but you were
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talking about got the name right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He got a little outfit that was a bit young
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for it, didn't
fit. No, no, we're up to name. Exactly.
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I'm not even sure he knows about Our son? Yeah,
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did you know there's two yet? I'm really not sure.
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One of the guesses he had for my daughter's name
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was Weetabix.
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Do you mind talking about this?
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Not at all. It's all fine. And, you know, it's
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my life. Yes, of course. That's the thing. It's my normal.
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You know, we all know that. So, I mean, one
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guess for my daughter's name was Weetabix. How's Weetabix? Dad,
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that's obviously... Come on, mate. That's mental. Wheat is not
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a wheat biscuit, is she?
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Heroin can't have the whole blame for that. Exactly.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Even heroin's going, come on, let me have a break.
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Exactly. So, yeah, there is that kind of those blotches.
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But what I was going to say was it means
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that those kind of more traditional, what are they, values
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that you get as a family, we didn't necessarily have those. So,
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you know, Christmas wasn't a big thing in my house.
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So have you.
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Been liberated by that or have you gone towards it now?
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Because you didn't have that. Are you strong on, like,
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Christmas and birthdays?
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I don't know if I'm strong on it, but I've really,
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since having Wilder, I've only first been aware of the
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appreciation for it. I've only just begun to find the
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kind of beauty in the lights at Oxford Street. I
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now like it. It now does symbolise something. It does
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symbolise family. So she's turning three. She was aware of Christmas.
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She was aware of Santa Claus. and to watch her
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excited for something, and getting to... I mean, you must
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have gone over this. You must go over this every year.
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But getting to use Santa as a means to get
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her to behave.
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No, I would never do that, no.
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Come on.
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No, we're against that on this podcast, aren't we, Rob?
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Well, it is frowned upon in the parents'... No, I'm joking!
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Have you done the thing where you're on the phone
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to him? No. I've got Santa's number. Oh, absolutely right.
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I'm on the phone to Santa. No, no, you're not
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getting the... Yeah, the Elsa dress. Cancel it.
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Would you do that in front of her?
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Absolutely.
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Oh, that is a bit strong, though.
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Not too heavy. Is that too heavy? God, yeah, in 2020.
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And what would she be doing at that point? Eating
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a second biscuit? It would be like she might have
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tugged Mildred's hair. Mildred's my dog.
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Oh, something she knows she really shouldn't be doing.
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Exactly.
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And it is quite, yeah.
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And then you want the apology, make sure you apologise
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to Mildred.
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I'm not apologising to Mildred! Oh, and then Santa helps
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with the apology.
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I'd say there is an argument that you're making a
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child apologise.
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To a dog.
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Well, apparently Lucy's making... So who's the mad one there?
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And then you're phoning... Spoiler alert, an invisible man.
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Now, does your partner, Grace, lead more of the... Because
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I imagine she had a bit more of a traditional
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upbringing with Christmas.
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Yes, very much so.
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Will she introduce stuff that you'll go, well, we don't
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need to do that, what's that? And then as you
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enjoy it with her, you go, oh, I can see
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why people like this at Christmas and that sort of family,
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any sort of family traditions. Because I remember when I
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used to put stuff out for Father Christmas on our
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front doorstep because we didn't have a chimney. We lived
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in a terraced house. We used to live in the
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front doorstep. So then, like, when I was with Lou
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and the kids, I was like, right, let's go and
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put it on the front doorstep. She went, what are
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you putting the fucking doorstep for?
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Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's what you do it.
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Are you as loud and frenetic at home with your
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children or are you a calmer presence than when you're
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with me and Rob?
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I think I'm very soft with what's happened. I don't
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know if you guys had this. Grace has kind of
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had to take kind of main lead with, casper our
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son and so at that point when that happened i
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then got more time yeah with wilder with wilder we
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go on with it was shredded wheat absolutely we shred it.
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He could do cereal for hours.
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Yeah.
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That's his ballpark. He'll start whipping out ones you forgot about.
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Professor Wheat O's will come up in a minute.
501
00:20:13.099 --> 00:20:20.690
Bicycles or the astronaut? Yeah, yeah. Captain Rick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
502
00:20:20.710 --> 00:20:24.369
you've got more Tyler Wilder. So, I think I'm probably,
503
00:20:24.390 --> 00:20:28.390
I don't know. They're so sweet and so cute that
504
00:20:28.529 --> 00:20:30.339
I'm a lot softer. Yeah.
505
00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:32.319
Yeah, but you are like, you're at work and you're
506
00:20:32.339 --> 00:20:33.940
on a podcast before. If you come in and be
507
00:20:33.980 --> 00:20:38.509
in That is your energy on stuff. I'm not constantly
508
00:20:38.529 --> 00:20:41.369
cracking jokes with the kids. Well, actually, I'm quite a bit.
509
00:20:42.130 --> 00:20:44.549
We go on like Daddy Day. We have Daddy Day
510
00:20:44.589 --> 00:20:45.869
where I take Wilder out.
511
00:20:46.089 --> 00:20:47.430
What do you do on a Daddy Day?
512
00:20:47.509 --> 00:20:49.670
Well, the last Daddy Day we went to, because she
513
00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.880
had had the Peppa Pig. She's not been to QPR yet.
514
00:20:53.019 --> 00:20:55.759
Because she had the Peppa Pig Goes to London book. Yeah.
515
00:20:55.819 --> 00:20:57.890
And Big Ben was on that. So I thought it'd
516
00:20:57.910 --> 00:20:59.940
be fun to show her the things in the Peppa
517
00:20:59.980 --> 00:21:04.349
Pig book and take her on the boat, the boat
518
00:21:04.410 --> 00:21:05.029
on the Thames.
519
00:21:05.309 --> 00:21:07.029
Have you seen there's a Peppa Pig tour bus you
520
00:21:07.049 --> 00:21:08.130
can do where you have afternoon tea?
521
00:21:08.650 --> 00:21:11.470
I mean, that sounds incredible. Yeah, so it's like a little.
522
00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.380
Peppa Pig-themed bus and there's an afternoon tea and there's like.
523
00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:13.880
Have you done this?
524
00:21:13.900 --> 00:21:15.759
Yeah, there's a little video. We did it together one
525
00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.339
Christmas and there's little videos where it tells you.
526
00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.880
You'd enjoy it, sure. Do you enjoy that kind of...
527
00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:24.240
Do you enjoy kids' entertainment stuff? That's my favourite thing
528
00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:27.049
in the world. That's the stuff that you don't... Before
529
00:21:27.069 --> 00:21:30.210
you've had kids, you don't really... You're not really aware
530
00:21:30.250 --> 00:21:31.470
of this world that's about to open.
531
00:21:31.490 --> 00:21:32.829
If you didn't have kids and you wanted to go
532
00:21:32.849 --> 00:21:34.750
on a tour bus to listen to a cartoon pig
533
00:21:34.789 --> 00:21:38.180
and eat a sandwich, you'd get sectioned. But that's amazing.
534
00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:39.440
If she loves Peppa Pig, she'll love that.
535
00:21:40.099 --> 00:21:43.240
She'll be like, yeah, I'll check that out. And so, yeah,
536
00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:46.420
those days, and they bring out a version. What they
537
00:21:46.460 --> 00:21:50.900
do is they connect you with your childhood, I think. Yes.
538
00:21:51.460 --> 00:21:54.220
So well, and it's beautiful to be kind of taken
539
00:21:54.259 --> 00:21:55.019
back in time.
540
00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:57.039
And are you going to take them to QPR?
541
00:21:57.460 --> 00:22:01.660
Grace wants me to take Wilder to QPR now. I
542
00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:03.720
think she'd be quite scared by how I get.
543
00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:05.440
Yeah, but you won't be the same person.
544
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.019
But I like to be that. I like to be that.
545
00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.799
You've got to learn to hide who you are for
546
00:22:10.819 --> 00:22:11.480
your children, Sean.
547
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.700
That's what it is, isn't it? Yeah. That's what parenting is. Lino!
548
00:22:15.940 --> 00:22:16.849
Lino!
549
00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:20.609
Exactly. Fucking push up! We'll go and see Big Ben.
550
00:22:20.490 --> 00:22:21.609
In a minute. Move!
551
00:22:22.190 --> 00:22:24.869
What I'm always shouting is, which is why I sound mad.
552
00:22:24.930 --> 00:22:28.250
I've never heard anyone else shout this. Why are you walking?
553
00:22:30.410 --> 00:22:34.269
I hate watching football players walk run we've got to
554
00:22:34.309 --> 00:22:36.289
throw in run.
555
00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:42.730
But yes so if you shout keep your power walking
556
00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:44.740
to do a throw in you shout while you're walking.
557
00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:49.980
If we're 1-0 down yes absolutely drives me mad.
558
00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:51.779
Yeah, don't take her yet.
559
00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.549
Yeah, don't take her yet. Exactly, don't take her yet.
560
00:22:55.569 --> 00:22:59.769
The day after, you just see Wilder running everywhere. Yeah, exactly.
561
00:22:59.789 --> 00:23:00.970
Just in case Daddy sees me walk.
562
00:23:01.609 --> 00:23:03.509
But I have questions for you because I don't... A
563
00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:06.089
lot of my friends... Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not how
564
00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:09.279
the podcast works. Because I need... I don't have many...
565
00:23:09.779 --> 00:23:13.279
I don't socialise with many friends that have children. And also,
566
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.759
having kids means I don't socialise much. You guys are
567
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:21.839
at work. I'm actually meeting mates. My whole social life
568
00:23:21.900 --> 00:23:25.740
now is work-based. Yeah. Well, I think that what happens is,
569
00:23:26.009 --> 00:23:28.549
and this is probably a kind of combination between.
570
00:23:28.569 --> 00:23:32.759
Also, you don't drink anymore. And you're not comfortable in
571
00:23:32.779 --> 00:23:33.980
yourself when you're not drinking.
572
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:35.940
So how are you going to go out anyway?
573
00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.329
Sorry, are you having a conversation with yourself?
574
00:23:38.710 --> 00:23:43.990
Well, basically, not far off. But I was quite lucky, actually.
575
00:23:44.210 --> 00:23:46.789
I think I was lucky in that when I became
576
00:23:46.829 --> 00:23:50.799
a parent for the first time with Wilder, that my life... Did,
577
00:23:50.900 --> 00:23:53.319
all right, okay, we're being kept up during the night.
578
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:55.140
And all right, you don't just kind of get to
579
00:23:55.180 --> 00:23:58.170
nap and turn on the telly. But it wasn't like
580
00:23:58.309 --> 00:24:00.490
suddenly my kind of world, as I knew it, had
581
00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:02.430
been pulled away from me. I didn't go to the
582
00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:06.710
pub anyway. I didn't see anyone. So it wasn't this
583
00:24:06.769 --> 00:24:10.289
total shift. It was just children entered the world.
584
00:24:10.490 --> 00:24:13.730
Yeah, but you'd done a self-imposed sort of less going out.
585
00:24:13.750 --> 00:24:15.599
Because most people have kids, they stop going out as
586
00:24:15.630 --> 00:24:17.420
much and it gets a bit less crazy. But you'd
587
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:18.099
already done that yourself.
588
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.779
I wish I'd done it in the order you did.
589
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.660
Because I had a couple of years of overlap where
590
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:23.680
I hadn't made my peace.
591
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.920
I mean, doing... I can't... You know, I've not.
592
00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:28.609
Not where I was going out all the time. But
593
00:24:28.630 --> 00:24:31.309
what I mean is where the thought was there, but
594
00:24:31.349 --> 00:24:31.970
now it's not.
595
00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:34.730
But you two must have, at some point, as, of course,
596
00:24:34.769 --> 00:24:37.170
many of the listeners have parented, hung over.
597
00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:37.789
Still do.
598
00:24:37.869 --> 00:24:45.369
Like you
pussies. That is unfathomable. I can't imagine. That's like...
599
00:24:45.170 --> 00:24:47.269
How many years since you had a drink? I think six.
600
00:24:48.089 --> 00:24:50.470
Or something like that. Often people want to know why
601
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:52.819
you've not. It's always they want to know why. And
602
00:24:52.859 --> 00:24:55.839
I think it's only ever two reasons. You're boring or
603
00:24:55.859 --> 00:24:59.559
you're too much fun. It's basically alcohol never really agreed
604
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.089
with me or I fucked a badger. And it's one
605
00:25:02.150 --> 00:25:04.410
of those two. And I'll let you guess which one
606
00:25:04.470 --> 00:25:07.470
I am. Yes, exactly. But yeah, so no drinking. And
607
00:25:07.509 --> 00:25:09.990
I think I'm quite pleased about that because obviously with
608
00:25:10.009 --> 00:25:15.039
my dad's addiction and then cutting out alcohol, I'm hoping...
609
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.720
We don't know. You know, the results are yet to
610
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.480
come in. But you're hoping that your Julian Dean, who's
611
00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:22.680
been on the pod, he once said this. I'm using
612
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.059
this from him. I loved it. It's cutting that circuit
613
00:25:26.460 --> 00:25:28.460
and trying to do as much as you can to
614
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.579
cut that circuit of the effects that having an addict
615
00:25:31.619 --> 00:25:32.420
parent has.
616
00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:33.599
Yes, of course.
617
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.740
And so you've never parented hungover?
618
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:41.460
Never parented hungover. Yeah. I just can't imagine that. No. No.
619
00:25:41.970 --> 00:25:43.150
Does she not drink either?
620
00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:43.890
Not really.
621
00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:46.500
She does drink, but no. Not really.
622
00:25:47.220 --> 00:25:48.980
I did the school run after that night at the
623
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.740
Euros when I was down an alley. No, you didn't!
624
00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:54.099
You weren't hungover, you were still drunk.
625
00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:56.180
That morning was the most famous I've ever been. I
626
00:25:56.180 --> 00:26:01.799
was stopping fucking traffic. Because I went mentally viral, England
627
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.220
had won, and I went on Zoe Ball's show and
628
00:26:04.259 --> 00:26:06.440
Chris Evans' show, then did the school run, still steaming.
629
00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:09.240
That is absolutely phenomenal.
630
00:26:09.259 --> 00:26:11.809
The teachers were like, oh, people shouting chicken man at
631
00:26:11.829 --> 00:26:14.329
me out the window of the car. Shit!
632
00:26:16.369 --> 00:26:19.829
That's what you were known for that's fantastic but yeah
633
00:26:19.869 --> 00:26:22.349
it is awful and I've stopped drinking now I would
634
00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:25.680
only have two or three drinks max and then I'm
635
00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:28.140
done just because I like that little giddy feeling but
636
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.579
anything beyond that just.
637
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:34.420
I find it wild when you see parents that properly
638
00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:37.630
go out all I can think is how are you
639
00:26:37.930 --> 00:26:40.759
dealing with the next day? I'm not judging them. I'm thinking,
640
00:26:40.779 --> 00:26:41.940
I can't do that.
641
00:26:41.980 --> 00:26:43.279
No, no, no, absolutely.
642
00:26:43.299 --> 00:26:44.859
Like, I wish I could.
643
00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:46.299
Have done that. Well, the answer is though, isn't it?
644
00:26:46.299 --> 00:26:50.009
It's like, if you go from drunk to hungover to like,
645
00:26:50.269 --> 00:26:53.509
recovered to drunk again, you're never truly sober.
646
00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:56.250
In yourself that's the cycle I lived in since I
647
00:26:56.289 --> 00:26:56.490
was 17.
648
00:26:56.450 --> 00:26:59.950
Any chance where you have to think or look internally
649
00:27:00.259 --> 00:27:01.900
you can cover that up with I'll get a pizza
650
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.599
because I'm hungover I'm feeling better now I'll have a.
651
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.839
Drink and you're back in again that's it and let's
652
00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:10.980
be honest you know me well enough for this to
653
00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:14.109
be known as the case life is hard enough without
654
00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:18.349
me being hungover I struggle anyway I don't know if
655
00:27:18.390 --> 00:27:19.930
you saw my Instagram.
656
00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:21.650
But yesterday he woke up.
657
00:27:26.170 --> 00:27:31.089
Is this meant to be helping me sell tickets?
658
00:27:31.349 --> 00:27:33.779
He's come out on fire today, old Josh. Shoes off,
659
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:34.779
big gulp, off he goes.
660
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:37.539
Well, I just went to the wrong venue again.
661
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:38.720
Yesterday?
662
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.980
Oh, God. For the third time? If it's even the third,
663
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:42.619
it's probably fourth.
664
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:43.069
Where did you go?
665
00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:43.599
What?
666
00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:45.950
Well, can I just say, in my defence, so I
667
00:27:46.049 --> 00:27:49.049
once went to Hereford instead of Hertford. I once went
668
00:27:49.089 --> 00:27:51.130
to the wrong, is it Newport? I once went to
669
00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:54.940
the wrong Newport. Yesterday, in my defence... It wasn't because
670
00:27:54.980 --> 00:27:58.569
I got the names of the towns confused. I'd got
671
00:27:58.650 --> 00:28:01.869
days confused. And I thought yesterday was Tuesday. So just
672
00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.269
in case you thought I was an idiot. So you're
673
00:28:04.309 --> 00:28:06.230
going tonight to the place you meant to be going
674
00:28:06.250 --> 00:28:08.589
last night? Yeah, the barman will recognise me. It's through there,
675
00:28:08.630 --> 00:28:10.269
isn't it, the comedy? And he went, it's tomorrow, isn't it?
676
00:28:10.490 --> 00:28:12.599
And straight away, you know, and you know immediately. And
677
00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:15.359
I went, yep, see you tomorrow. Just walked straight out.
678
00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:18.440
Just doing a recce. Everything seems to be going up
679
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:19.240
for tomorrow.
680
00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:20.980
You know me, always has to get prepared.
681
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:21.420
Yeah.
682
00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:24.099
So what questions have you got now? Because I was
683
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.140
speaking to you and Grace about holidays and stuff like that.
684
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.539
Well, sleeping. So what we do, and I don't know
685
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.759
if this is odd. I actually said to Grace, should
686
00:28:32.779 --> 00:28:35.559
I keep this to myself? And she said, no, they'll
687
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:37.539
do it. And she thinks you might have done this.
688
00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:40.859
But I, Grace... Upside down like a bat.
689
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.279
It's the only way he gets off. He swings up
690
00:28:47.299 --> 00:28:49.980
the hypnotist.
691
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.849
Grace is in bed with Casper. in our room it's
692
00:28:54.869 --> 00:28:57.150
not in my room because I'm never there because I'm
693
00:28:57.390 --> 00:28:59.710
in Wilder's bed with Wilder yeah yeah that's basically our
694
00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:04.299
situation yeah right is that how abnormal normal is that
695
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.240
I don't really know but I like it and that's
696
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:07.940
what we do.
697
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.700
Well that's the thing I tell myself stuff like and
698
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.130
I do believe this at the moment my son's in bed.
699
00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:17.210
With Rose and my daughter's.
700
00:29:16.890 --> 00:29:19.529
In bed with me on the floor next to the
701
00:29:19.569 --> 00:29:21.369
bed so we're all in the same room what okay.
702
00:29:24.049 --> 00:29:24.849
Okay, yeah.
703
00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:26.730
Now you thought you were going to be the weird one.
704
00:29:26.910 --> 00:29:28.170
Why are you on the.
705
00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:29.640
Because we've got mattresses.
706
00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:30.829
But you've got other bedrooms.
707
00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:31.079
Yeah.
708
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:32.970
So the only place he can sleep is on the
709
00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:34.009
floor of his bedroom.
710
00:29:34.009 --> 00:29:34.680
Jesus Christ.
711
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:35.170
Like a dog.
712
00:29:35.170 --> 00:29:36.309
Like a dog.
713
00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:41.619
His dog's got a better bed than you. Can I
714
00:29:41.660 --> 00:29:43.440
throw my hat in the ring here on this?
715
00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:44.359
Yes, definitely.
716
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.079
Now, so I think that when you've got an
eight-month-old
717
00:29:47.099 --> 00:29:49.640
baby kind of thing, and it's been a baby, there's
718
00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:51.160
that period where it needs to be with the mum
719
00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:52.140
if you're doing breastfeeding.
720
00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:56.819
Yes, it's all about breastfeeding. Oh, I should say, this
721
00:29:56.859 --> 00:29:59.900
hasn't always been the case. We've reverted back to it
722
00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:01.700
in the last year. Because you've been moving.
723
00:30:01.509 --> 00:30:01.980
Houses and stuff.
724
00:30:02.009 --> 00:30:03.029
Because we've been moving houses and stuff.
725
00:30:03.089 --> 00:30:03.549
But I think.
726
00:30:03.569 --> 00:30:03.650
So.
727
00:30:03.630 --> 00:30:06.410
Basically, there's no point you coming in the middle of
728
00:30:06.430 --> 00:30:07.789
the night and disrupting all that. So you might as
729
00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:10.069
well just get in with Wilder. Like what you're doing.
730
00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:12.750
That's how I think it naturally happened. As I started going,
731
00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:16.150
I can't be bothered to wake up and go in there. Exactly.
732
00:30:16.170 --> 00:30:18.470
I might as well just stay there. Totally. Have you got.
733
00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:20.339
Are they going to have to share when they.
734
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:21.200
Initially.
735
00:30:21.460 --> 00:30:23.799
Yeah, so there'll be a point, though, where you have to...
736
00:30:24.859 --> 00:30:27.490
From eight months or older, whenever it is, move... your
737
00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:30.230
son into another room yes and eventually you'll probably get
738
00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:32.950
back into your bed and they'll be in the room
739
00:30:32.990 --> 00:30:36.109
together but I would say Josh's situation at the moment
740
00:30:36.549 --> 00:30:40.490
wasn't always the case but has basically descended into slight chaos.
741
00:30:40.269 --> 00:30:41.849
Because of circumstance and now they.
742
00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:43.549
Can't get back into the right bedrooms because they're getting
743
00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:47.109
the other bedrooms done but now the standard is.
744
00:30:47.710 --> 00:30:50.670
Well my son would describe it as his room yeah
745
00:30:50.690 --> 00:30:55.799
yeah yeah that's it he's three four four But I
746
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:00.009
love it. Yeah, that's the thing. And it won't last forever.
747
00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:02.309
This is the thing. Or what if it does? Or
748
00:31:02.329 --> 00:31:03.990
what if it does?
749
00:31:04.049 --> 00:31:08.660
That's the worry, isn't it? What if it does?
750
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.279
But I remember going to go and sleep in the
751
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.309
main bed and then just having that feeling of, but
752
00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:20.569
she's not going to be that small forever. I've got
753
00:31:20.630 --> 00:31:23.170
to use this now. I've got to use this moment now.
754
00:31:23.410 --> 00:31:25.250
No, I think it's all a little bit whatever works
755
00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:28.509
for the house. Our kids go a bit to sleep
756
00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:30.390
in their room, but then the youngest one kept doing
757
00:31:30.410 --> 00:31:32.190
these night terrors, so she comes in quite a lot.
758
00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:33.670
So then what will happen is she'll come in the
759
00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:35.009
middle of the night and either get in with us
760
00:31:35.269 --> 00:31:36.789
or one of us will get out and get in
761
00:31:36.809 --> 00:31:39.029
bed with her. And do that. So it's like she'll
762
00:31:39.049 --> 00:31:40.710
go to her own bed at night, but then she
763
00:31:40.750 --> 00:31:43.109
wakes up at night a bit scared. She'll come to us.
764
00:31:43.369 --> 00:31:43.589
Yes.
765
00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:45.069
And rather than just going, you've got to go back
766
00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:46.049
in your room. You've got, we just go, I'll just
767
00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:48.089
get in and do it that way. So everyone's got
768
00:31:48.109 --> 00:31:50.880
a different, but, but that they used to go sleep
769
00:31:50.910 --> 00:31:52.680
in their own beds and not bother us at all,
770
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.940
all night from the ages of sort of like four
771
00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:56.559
and six.
772
00:31:57.099 --> 00:31:57.779
Yeah. Onwards.
773
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.779
But then all of a sudden it's shifted again.
774
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.119
So it's constantly. You just never know.
775
00:32:01.779 --> 00:32:04.039
And also I think people just get hung up on
776
00:32:04.099 --> 00:32:04.900
stuff a lot.
777
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.200
Yeah, but I would say in your situation, it's mad
778
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.200
to sleep on the floor when there are a number
779
00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:12.849
of other bedrooms. That's what I think is mad.
780
00:32:12.859 --> 00:32:14.900
Well, the other bedrooms have been done up. You're doing
781
00:32:14.980 --> 00:32:17.019
all right, mate. You don't need to be on the floor.
782
00:32:17.059 --> 00:32:17.819
You're doing all right.
783
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.460
You can even get a spare bed. It's a lovely
784
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:20.359
squidgy mattress.
785
00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:21.559
It's a lovely squidgy mattress.
786
00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:23.420
No, but I would say that I think it's fine
787
00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:24.740
to sit, but I think you could just be in
788
00:32:24.769 --> 00:32:25.369
a bed with her.
789
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:26.190
Possibly.
790
00:32:26.529 --> 00:32:28.990
He's just slept on the floor every night for months.
791
00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:32.089
Look what he's so tired. He's living on the floor, mate.
792
00:32:32.109 --> 00:32:34.329
That's why I don't have hotels. I'm getting the consequences
793
00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:34.529
of it.
794
00:32:34.549 --> 00:32:35.230
I can't really adapt.
795
00:32:35.289 -->
00:32:37.250
I can't believe it. I can't really adapt to the
796
00:32:37.289 --> 00:32:38.589
hotel room bed.
797
00:32:38.609 --> 00:32:39.410
Because he's on a bed.
798
00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:42.740
It feels a little higher. Did you put this mattress
799
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.380
on the floor?
800
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:52.579
Any space in the lobby? And now for a special
801
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:54.960
part of today's show, what age should you be left at?
802
00:32:54.980 --> 00:32:56.140
And it's brought to you by Monzo.
803
00:32:56.460 --> 00:32:59.319
Yes, basically, we're going to discuss what age kids should
804
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.000
be left to get on with things themselves.
805
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.519
Monzo helps give kids a safer step into independence with money,
806
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.119
setting goals, budgeting and spending while parents still have oversight.
807
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.819
So that part feels covered. But what about the other stuff? Like,
808
00:33:11.859 --> 00:33:13.640
can they use a toaster, for example?
809
00:33:13.829 --> 00:33:16.289
Or have their own phone? That's a very picky one.
810
00:33:16.430 --> 00:33:19.309
Now, Josh, what age are you going to let your kids...
811
00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:21.150
Go out of the house on their own to the
812
00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:21.910
local shop.
813
00:33:22.269 --> 00:33:24.589
Well, we've been discussing this, Rob.
814
00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:26.869
I've been talking about, like, she's got other friends who
815
00:33:26.890 --> 00:33:29.549
live nearby who walk past our house to go to school.
816
00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:30.269
Yeah.
817
00:33:30.470 --> 00:33:32.490
And what age are we going to send them to school?
818
00:33:32.529 --> 00:33:35.309
I reckon at about 10, they will walk as a
819
00:33:35.369 --> 00:33:37.390
group to school, kind of picking up people on the
820
00:33:37.430 --> 00:33:38.170
way like a bus.
821
00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:41.420
Yeah, see, that's hard for us because they're in a village.
822
00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:43.559
We let the kids go to the neighbour to get
823
00:33:43.619 --> 00:33:44.480
parcels on their own.
824
00:33:44.769 --> 00:33:47.390
What about if you went to a shop and you
825
00:33:47.549 --> 00:33:49.490
were like, oh, there's no parking or something?
826
00:33:50.430 --> 00:33:52.279
Could you just go in and get, you know, a
827
00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:53.160
pint of milk?
828
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.400
I'd probably, the eight-year-old and 10-year-old, I'd send them in
829
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.960
together to a garage to buy something with cash if
830
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.539
I'm parked outside the garage. If I'm in a restaurant,
831
00:34:00.619 --> 00:34:02.349
I could let them go to the toilet on their own.
832
00:34:02.529 --> 00:34:05.430
Yeah. Give me another one. Give me another one to
833
00:34:05.490 --> 00:34:05.970
test the age.
834
00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:07.980
Oven.
835
00:34:08.619 --> 00:34:11.420
I think they could do that now, my daughter, but
836
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.539
she doesn't. But I think she could easily.
837
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.800
They both make me scrambled eggs. They can do that
838
00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:18.659
on their own. What age were you allowed to go
839
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:19.179
to school?
840
00:34:19.570 --> 00:34:21.690
It was a driving thing. But then at 11, I
841
00:34:22.869 --> 00:34:24.389
got the bus and I'd walk to the bus stop
842
00:34:24.429 --> 00:34:26.130
on my own. So 11.
843
00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:28.010
I think that's the secondary school is the one, isn't it?
844
00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:31.429
Well, here's the thing on the other side. Yeah. My son...
845
00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:34.849
I don't want to swear on it. Wiped his own
846
00:34:35.369 --> 00:34:37.429
bum the other day. Yeah.
847
00:34:37.949 --> 00:34:39.800
Because he's four. Part of me is like, well, that
848
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.119
is good. But how good is the job he's done?
849
00:34:43.139 --> 00:34:44.000
Do you know what I mean?
850
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.559
Do your kids use toaster? Do they do their own toaster?
851
00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:47.800
Do they do their own breakfast yet?
852
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:54.050
No, because... He doesn't. Obviously. Yeah, obviously. And I end
853
00:34:54.110 --> 00:34:55.809
up doing it, but they could do it. Do you
854
00:34:55.829 --> 00:34:57.130
know what I mean? My daughter could.
855
00:34:57.409 --> 00:35:00.789
She doesn't have toast, though. I've got into a pancake situation.
856
00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:01.690
Do yours do their own?
857
00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:04.110
They'll make their own breakfast. So they'll get their cereal
858
00:35:04.210 --> 00:35:06.250
out and milk and bowl and spoon. Or they'll make
859
00:35:06.269 --> 00:35:08.769
their own toast and butter it. And they can make
860
00:35:08.869 --> 00:35:11.449
eggs if they want to make eggs. Lou makes the pancakes,
861
00:35:11.690 --> 00:35:13.389
the mix. But I think we get to the point
862
00:35:13.409 --> 00:35:15.300
where they could make their own pancakes. I wouldn't want
863
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.480
them using a hot pan without us downstairs.
864
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:19.159
No, exactly, Rob.
865
00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:20.480
Toaster's all right without us.
866
00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:21.039
Do you know what?
867
00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:23.780
If you want a kid to help, my daughter's got
868
00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:27.219
very into, in the morning, she's done a checklist, which
869
00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:30.019
we go through, and it kind of empowers her to
870
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.719
be part of it rather than me just telling her
871
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.360
the next.
872
00:35:32.179 --> 00:35:33.320
Thing, if you know what I mean.
873
00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:33.980
Yeah.
874
00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:36.599
And they do really want to do these
things.
875
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.820
That's the thing. We presume they're resistant. Oh, will someone
876
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.070
do everything for me? But the truth is they enjoy it.
877
00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:45.750
The feeling grown up of it. We're the problem.
878
00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:48.050
We're the problem. We do too much for them.
879
00:35:48.329 --> 00:35:50.530
Do you know what would really help on that, Rob? What?
880
00:35:51.150 --> 00:35:51.909
A Monzo card.
881
00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:53.329
Because that empowers them.
882
00:35:53.570 --> 00:35:55.469
Then they can just go out and pay for breakfast.
883
00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:56.449
Exactly.
884
00:35:56.489 --> 00:35:59.849
They can go out and have avocado on toast. Would
885
00:35:59.869 --> 00:36:00.969
you let them pack the bags for.
886
00:36:00.909 --> 00:36:01.489
The holiday, Rob?
887
00:36:01.809 --> 00:36:03.969
Not the whole holiday. Maybe hand luggage.
888
00:36:04.409 --> 00:36:06.809
Hand luggage. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's good.
889
00:36:06.829 --> 00:36:08.340
But then if you'd let them, they'll just pack like
890
00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:11.320
20 teddies. Because they're not practical.
891
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.489
They're not going to go, I do need some factor 50.
892
00:36:14.489 --> 00:36:14.710
Yeah.
893
00:36:15.769 --> 00:36:18.030
Yeah, I do need an extra swimming costume because if
894
00:36:18.050 --> 00:36:19.250
that one's wet, I don't want to put that one
895
00:36:19.289 --> 00:36:19.690
back on.
896
00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:22.809
There you have it. Monzo helps take care of the
897
00:36:22.849 --> 00:36:24.880
money stuff and we'll take care of the rest.
898
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.880
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899
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.099
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900
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needed first. UK residents only. T's and C's apply. What's
901
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.619
your views on like kids TV and stuff?
902
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.280
Oh, well kids TV. So obviously all I've got is,
903
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.539
so Casper's just getting into, I'm back on Miss Rachel
904
00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:48.969
because Casper's now started with Miss Rachel.
905
00:36:48.989 --> 00:36:50.820
I miss Miss Rachel. It was more tumble for us.
906
00:36:51.230 --> 00:36:56.449
Oh really? Saviors. These people are saviors. Yeah. Casper's, you know,
907
00:36:56.510 --> 00:36:57.389
I just go, Miss Rachel.
908
00:36:57.409 --> 00:36:59.130
Do you let him have a screen or is it
909
00:36:59.159 --> 00:36:59.929
just on the big telly?
910
00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:00.360
No.
911
00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:03.000
Well, see, this is, I'm very jealous about this. We
912
00:37:03.059 --> 00:37:06.800
came in slightly too late after they'd kind of, after
913
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.829
the discussion about how iPads were bad for you. Yeah.
914
00:37:10.010 --> 00:37:13.030
Had come out. So we were too late. I would now,
915
00:37:13.110 --> 00:37:15.329
if I was giving them the iPad, be aware of
916
00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:19.710
the discussion that screens are bad and time should be limited. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
917
00:37:19.769 --> 00:37:21.389
So I'm gutted that I missed, because there was the
918
00:37:21.409 --> 00:37:23.690
bit when the iPads were new. Parents were just slinging
919
00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:24.409
them at their kids.
920
00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:25.349
Oh, so you don't have.
921
00:37:25.650 --> 00:37:27.730
We don't, so we don't. But the TV is doing
922
00:37:27.769 --> 00:37:28.030
all the.
923
00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:32.030
Can I ask with that, is there ones you like
924
00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:32.969
and ones you don't like?
925
00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:35.110
Well, Bluey. We all like Bluey.
926
00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:36.130
Yeah, we love Bluey.
927
00:37:36.150 --> 00:37:39.590
15-minute episodes, you know, small, short, it's like crack. You
928
00:37:39.610 --> 00:37:41.750
start getting into them You get that little circle at
929
00:37:41.769 --> 00:37:43.369
the end, you know, the corner, it says like 11
930
00:37:43.369 --> 00:37:46.960
seconds left or next episode, sat there, skip. Last week,
931
00:37:47.099 --> 00:37:50.150
I watched eight episodes in a row, forgot to pick
932
00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:55.860
Wilder up from nursery. On your own? I'm kidding. You
933
00:37:57.219 --> 00:38:02.739
can't trick him like that in his state. I bought that. Yeah, no. So, no, Bluey,
934
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:03.019
like Bluey.
935
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:04.960
We used to come home from the school run and Mr.
936
00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:07.389
Tumble would be on for about an hour. And I'm like,
937
00:38:07.429 --> 00:38:08.110
why is he still on?
938
00:38:08.389 --> 00:38:11.269
Well, this is the thing, isn't it? Because Generation Alpha?
939
00:38:11.989 --> 00:38:12.630
I don't know.
940
00:38:12.670 --> 00:38:15.769
Yeah, right. The one after the Gen Z. Them. Yeah.
941
00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:17.869
What's that generation that all slept with their dad until
942
00:38:17.889 --> 00:38:18.670
they were 25?
943
00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:18.849
Yeah.
944
00:38:18.989 --> 00:38:25.070
Yeah. The generation below our generation. They're Gen Z. Are
945
00:38:25.130 --> 00:38:26.650
obsessed with generations.
946
00:38:28.030 --> 00:38:29.900
It's young and old, guys.
947
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.559
It's just young and old. I'm just not interested.
948
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:33.159
No, it's not.
949
00:38:33.460 --> 00:38:37.519
People are so interested in generations. I'm not interested in what.
950
00:38:37.699 --> 00:38:41.190
There's young and old. The difference in gen that is up.
951
00:38:41.329 --> 00:38:43.849
We're old, but we're not old old. Yeah, we're middle aged. Yeah,
952
00:38:43.869 --> 00:38:45.250
but we're not like, what's my mum and dad?
953
00:38:45.949 --> 00:38:46.090
Oh.
954
00:38:46.110 --> 00:38:46.690
They're boomers, aren't they?
955
00:38:46.730 --> 00:38:48.070
No, but we can't be in the same group as them.
956
00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:49.159
Have you seen what we're old?
957
00:38:49.170 --> 00:38:50.860
We're middle-aged. They're old.
958
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:51.980
We're middle-aged.
959
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.159
There was no generations when we were kids. I'm so
960
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:56.849
happy you've said this. I absolutely agree. They're obsessed with it,
961
00:38:56.860 --> 00:38:57.199
young people.
962
00:38:57.219 --> 00:38:57.800
Gen Z, millennial.
963
00:38:57.900 --> 00:39:02.420
Okay, boomer. No, okay, old person. Yes. All right? Yeah.
964
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:03.929
Do you know what? I think you've dragged me in.
965
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:05.429
Yeah, thank you very much.
966
00:39:05.510 --> 00:39:10.769
So young, we're going children, young people, middle-aged, old. Dead.
967
00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:11.010
Dead.
968
00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:13.269
Yeah, but what's that? You know that about.
969
00:39:13.469 --> 00:39:14.449
Generation dead.
970
00:39:14.630 --> 00:39:16.599
And then there's Gen Z or whatever they're called. The
971
00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:20.179
younger generation, they'll tell you what all the different generations
972
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.539
are like and then they'll end by blaming you for
973
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:25.230
the fact that they can't afford a house.
974
00:39:25.409 --> 00:39:25.909
Yeah.
975
00:39:26.389 --> 00:39:29.369
Absolute torture. I didn't make this decision. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
976
00:39:29.530 --> 00:39:29.980
It is all.
977
00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:33.420
for you and I agree but there was no decision
978
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.159
within our generation where we went should we fuck over
979
00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:36.679
the next.
980
00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:38.239
Generation I'm sorry it can't be my fault people can't
981
00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:41.300
afford a house I know But also... What have I done?
982
00:39:41.510 --> 00:39:46.429
I started with fuck all. And also, these are the
983
00:39:46.449 --> 00:39:47.090
things you read.
984
00:39:47.269 --> 00:39:50.010
I think there's a difference between what you read about
985
00:39:50.349 --> 00:39:52.659
and what you see out there in the world. You
986
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.159
go to High Street on Friday night, everyone looks like
987
00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:57.559
they're having a great time. There are people in their
988
00:39:57.579 --> 00:39:59.980
20s outside Witherspoon's going, I wish I could afford a house.
989
00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.980
They're having a wonderful time.
990
00:40:02.219 --> 00:40:03.409
So have you all turned into Clarkson?
991
00:40:03.739 --> 00:40:08.739
LAUGHTER But what I was going to say is that,
992
00:40:08.780 --> 00:40:13.860
so these kids, children, they're brought up with on-demand television, YouTube,
993
00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:16.500
and this is not what we had. So they have
994
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.510
everything instantly just at their hands. Whereas we had a
995
00:40:20.550 --> 00:40:24.949
window of three to five to watch children's programmes, 3pm
996
00:40:24.989 --> 00:40:26.829
to 5pm. And basically, if you miss that, you're watching
997
00:40:26.849 --> 00:40:29.110
Panorama with your dad. Yeah, that was it.
998
00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:29.949
Heartbeat.
999
00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:31.190
Yeah, heartbeat, exactly.
1000
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.400
But do you think that was more shared viewing? Because
1001
00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:36.699
I was thinking this the other day. My kids are
1002
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.349
watching TV and I was trying not to look at
1003
00:40:39.389 --> 00:40:41.210
my phone and I was thinking, Josh.
1004
00:40:41.710 --> 00:40:44.230
I've bought, sorry to cut you off there. I've bought
1005
00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:47.449
to try and combat phone addiction. I've bought, there's an
1006
00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:51.559
app called Opal, right? About 80 quid. That app stops
1007
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.989
you from using your phone. I bought a lockbox, which
1008
00:40:54.010 --> 00:40:55.130
you put your phone in when you get home. Oh,
1009
00:40:55.150 --> 00:40:56.869
that's mental, the box. And I bought a thing called Brick.
1010
00:40:56.929 --> 00:40:59.449
I've got Brick. I still use Brick. I've spent over
1011
00:40:59.449 --> 00:41:02.530
200 quid on Brick. Trying to combat. You've almost got
1012
00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:05.869
a wall. I've got devices to stop me from using devices. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1013
00:41:05.969 --> 00:41:07.849
I've lost it. And what's your screen time?
1014
00:41:08.349 --> 00:41:10.289
It'll just be what? It won't change. Seven hours.
1015
00:41:10.329 --> 00:41:11.670
Because I won't put my phone in the box.
1016
00:41:12.030 --> 00:41:13.949
And I won't use the Brick. The box is mental.
1017
00:41:13.969 --> 00:41:17.000
I just scroll. I don't look. Doom scroll. Just doom scroll.
1018
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:18.780
My phone addiction is so bad, I was staying at
1019
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.219
a hotel and I went to charge my phone. And
1020
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.010
there was no plug socket next to the bed. You
1021
00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:26.210
know that? I had to sleep on the desk. Another joke, Josh.
1022
00:41:28.750 --> 00:41:29.429
I don't know, yeah.
1023
00:41:29.449 --> 00:41:32.670
I don't know. What? Bloody hell, is this short or right?
1024
00:41:32.909 --> 00:41:34.679
Can we get a drum bit? I might need a drum.
1025
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.880
There we go. That's right, it's not real. But yeah, no,
1026
00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:41.039
it is bad. Hence all of these devices. So you're
1027
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:42.699
trying to watch a children's programme and not look at
1028
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:43.079
your phone.
1029
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.059
This is how obsessed he is with his screen time.
1030
00:41:45.139 --> 00:41:47.349
If he's driving somewhere, because it comes up in your sat-nav,
1031
00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.909
you know the sat-nav goes on your car. He's turning
1032
00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:50.530
his sat-nav off.
1033
00:41:50.550 --> 00:41:51.570
Yeah, the apple carve thing.
1034
00:41:51.610 --> 00:41:54.340
Yeah, but he's turning his sat-nav off for the last
1035
00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:56.619
10 miles because he knows the route to make sure
1036
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:57.119
his screen time's good.
1037
00:41:57.139 --> 00:41:57.809
To save screen time.
1038
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.880
Because it's so you it's charging me screen time for
1039
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.300
sat nav it's so unfair that is so you do
1040
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.159
you want to know something else so brick right it
1041
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.360
gets rid of all your time wasting apps are you
1042
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.880
using brick yeah i am using brick but this is
1043
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:12.239
how i ended up do you.
1044
00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:14.780
Know what brick is so we've got the exact same
1045
00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:16.400
screen time so i don't know what he's using it
1046
00:42:16.460 --> 00:42:17.739
for yeah but this is.
1047
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.599
What happens i've got rid of all the time wasting
1048
00:42:19.659 --> 00:42:21.639
apps so i've got like i only got like calls
1049
00:42:21.699 --> 00:42:24.230
and uber and stuff on it okay and so then
1050
00:42:24.250 --> 00:42:26.929
i find myself sitting waiting for a train or whatever
1051
00:42:26.949 --> 00:42:27.969
and i'm.
1052
00:42:27.929 --> 00:42:30.530
Like I wonder who I've called recently. And I'm just
1053
00:42:30.610 --> 00:42:36.139
reading the boring apps now. Yes, right. I wonder what
1054
00:42:36.219 --> 00:42:38.480
cities have got Uber. Why don't I search?
1055
00:42:38.780 --> 00:42:40.460
I remember when you used to go for a shit,
1056
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:41.860
I'd read the back of shampoo bottles.
1057
00:42:41.900 --> 00:42:43.260
Yeah, of course. Something.
1058
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:44.460
Something.
1059
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.119
My phone died from Leeds. Died at the beginning of
1060
00:42:48.139 --> 00:42:51.639
the train journey. And I thought, I can't do this
1061
00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:55.159
train journey just with my mind. So what did you do?
1062
00:42:55.300 --> 00:42:57.639
Did you go off? No, I went down the carriage
1063
00:42:57.659 --> 00:42:59.590
to ask if I could borrow someone's charger. Yeah, I've
1064
00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:02.250
done that. Like a crackhead. Yeah. Basically go, excuse me,
1065
00:43:02.289 --> 00:43:04.889
ladies and gentlemen, sorry to bother you. I can see
1066
00:43:04.909 --> 00:43:07.269
you're all just trying to enjoy your journey. I don't
1067
00:43:07.289 --> 00:43:10.570
need the charger for the entire trip. About 40%
will do.
1068
00:43:10.829 --> 00:43:11.909
That's how bad.
1069
00:43:11.929 --> 00:43:13.550
You remember that one? Was that from one of your
1070
00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:16.329
daddy days out when you were a kid?
1071
00:43:16.510 --> 00:43:17.349
So you're on tour, Sean?
1072
00:43:17.710 --> 00:43:19.570
I am on tour. Thank you. Tell me about your tour.
1073
00:43:19.710 --> 00:43:20.750
It's called This Is Torture.
1074
00:43:21.329 --> 00:43:22.010
I'll go through the dates.
1075
00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:25.150
Is it spelt tour as in torture? No. Should I
1076
00:43:25.170 --> 00:43:27.710
have done that? No. No, thank you. I don't think
1077
00:43:27.750 --> 00:43:31.550
it's a good idea. It's called This Is Torture. And yeah,
1078
00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:33.840
it's a spring tour. Very much looking forward to it.
1079
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:34.340
I mean, it's more.
1080
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:35.300
Best time to go on tour.
1081
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:35.940
Spring.
1082
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.360
Well, yeah, because as it moves on, it gets brighter
1083
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.619
and lighter and warmer.
1084
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:42.900
Yes. Oh, do you know what, though? I quite like
1085
00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:45.260
the autumn tour because then... Has it?
1086
00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:48.780
I'm just trying to get a bit of positivity. I'm
1087
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.900
saying I'm positive about autumn. You don't have to just
1088
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.260
be so edgy all the time. You can just join in. Yeah.
1089
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.119
All right. Pro autumn. Here we go. Here he is.
1090
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.010
I like it when the Christmas decks go up and
1091
00:44:00.070 --> 00:44:03.030
you're touring around and you're looking at the programme, seeing
1092
00:44:03.050 --> 00:44:05.210
who's in the panto. And there's that excitement of the
1093
00:44:05.289 --> 00:44:05.809
autumn tour.
1094
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.500
You're looking at the programme to see who's doing panzer
1095
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.929
because you've used brick on your phone. So you're having
1096
00:44:11.969 --> 00:44:15.150
to pick up the leaflet on the phone. But yeah,
1097
00:44:15.170 --> 00:44:17.110
it's called This Is Torture and it's basically, I mean,
1098
00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:19.150
you know, it's kind of, I suppose it's, as with
1099
00:44:19.210 --> 00:44:19.809
all of us, isn't it?
1100
00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:20.360
It's more of.
1101
00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:24.469
The same. You know, you get to use... What's quite
1102
00:44:24.510 --> 00:44:27.530
nice is most people go to therapy and they pay
1103
00:44:27.570 --> 00:44:30.679
their therapist to listen to them. But I've worked so
1104
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.559
that people pay to listen to me talk about my problems.
1105
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.360
So is there a theme to this or is it
1106
00:44:35.380 --> 00:44:37.659
just all the funniest stand-up you've got
in the last.
1107
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.530
Year or so? Yeah, I mean, there's not a theme
1108
00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:41.829
and I've not even tried to kind of contrive one.
1109
00:44:41.869 --> 00:44:44.690
But I think there is a kind of crossroads where
1110
00:44:45.110 --> 00:44:47.789
you are at 40 and you do have two kids...
1111
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.949
And so your life has changed probably more than it
1112
00:44:51.010 --> 00:44:52.230
ever has done since you began.
1113
00:44:52.309 --> 00:44:53.889
It's the busiest your life will ever be.
1114
00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:54.610
Yes.
1115
00:44:54.630 --> 00:44:55.210
In this moment.
1116
00:44:55.230 --> 00:44:57.719
And it's the most, it's the most it's going to,
1117
00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.800
I think anyway, we'll see, but it's like the most
1118
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:03.550
it's going to. It's the most it's going to transform.
1119
00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:06.889
So you're coming at life, I think, from a slight...
1120
00:45:06.730 --> 00:45:09.550
I'm making it sound much more profound than it is.
1121
00:45:09.590 --> 00:45:12.929
But you are coming at life from an angle that
1122
00:45:12.949 --> 00:45:14.690
you wouldn't have been coming at it from. So I
1123
00:45:14.730 --> 00:45:18.409
talk about the concept of knowing who you are. you
1124
00:45:18.429 --> 00:45:20.190
know you have kids you've got to have some now
1125
00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:22.579
you've got to have some sort of concrete idea of
1126
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:23.860
who you are.
1127
00:45:23.780 --> 00:45:26.159
And what your morals and what's your idea of that
1128
00:45:26.219 --> 00:45:27.619
thing because your kids are going to come and ask.
1129
00:45:27.619 --> 00:45:30.980
Absolutely and so it's talking about kind of grasping that
1130
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.079
exactly who is it I am and then of course
1131
00:45:33.139 --> 00:45:35.099
who you are most of the time depends on what
1132
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:36.519
mood you're in and.
1133
00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:37.949
Is it true that you end by at the end
1134
00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:40.090
going and I am Sean.
1135
00:45:39.889 --> 00:45:44.889
Moore yes who I am that's who I am no
1136
00:45:44.929 --> 00:45:47.349
it's actually wrong you're close it's I am human.
1137
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.019
I don't know if he jokes with her or not.
1138
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.739
You call me now. I think you've always been an
1139
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.119
incredible stand-up, but you were almost a little bit not
1140
00:45:57.380 --> 00:46:00.130
old enough. You were brilliant when you were younger, but
1141
00:46:00.150 --> 00:46:02.710
you'd moan about things and be angry and passionate about
1142
00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:04.789
stuff that was a bit more like, you know when
1143
00:46:04.809 --> 00:46:07.650
you're getting a round of Jäger bombs and there'll be
1144
00:46:07.650 --> 00:46:09.550
40 people in the audience going, yeah, it's
funny, but
1145
00:46:10.090 --> 00:46:11.070
I'm not actually bothered about that.
1146
00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:13.659
But now you're talking about real-life things that really do
1147
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.519
matter to people. Yeah, well, when I was doing all
1148
00:46:16.539 --> 00:46:19.920
that stuff, you don't really realise at the time, you've
1149
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.019
got an hour of stand-up. And I was naive. I
1150
00:46:24.059 --> 00:46:27.760
didn't realise that if you spoke about alcohol and your
1151
00:46:27.780 --> 00:46:30.920
drinking habits for an hour in one show, then you
1152
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.050
might get a reputation for someone that just spoke about alcohol.
1153
00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:38.670
Who knew? And I honestly just hadn't thought about the
1154
00:46:38.710 --> 00:46:42.309
kind of consequences. But precisely, that is how I lived
1155
00:46:42.369 --> 00:46:44.309
my life. And that is how a lot of people...
1156
00:46:44.130 --> 00:46:46.710
That's how my friends lived their life. So, you know,
1157
00:46:46.889 --> 00:46:49.269
now that I'm 40 and two kids and I don't drink,
1158
00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:51.469
I won't be talking about that. But I was... slightly
1159
00:46:51.530 --> 00:46:53.960
pretentious probably, but I always end up being pretentious when
1160
00:46:53.980 --> 00:46:56.320
talking about stand-up. I like to talk about, I think
1161
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.139
I even kind of alluded to it earlier, is there'll
1162
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.280
be comedians that talk about the world you read and
1163
00:47:01.300 --> 00:47:02.780
there are comedians that talk about the world you see.
1164
00:47:03.219 --> 00:47:05.340
And I just much prefer to talk about the world
1165
00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:07.130
in front of me, the world that I see. the
1166
00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:09.690
world that we experience. I find that, that to me
1167
00:47:09.750 --> 00:47:12.090
is where the funny is. That's what makes me laugh.
1168
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.500
That is so spot on. And I didn't realise I
1169
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.840
felt like that until you said it. So well done.
1170
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:17.780
There you go.
1171
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.039
That was the best thing that's happened on this episode.
1172
00:47:21.059 --> 00:47:22.010
Thanks to you.
1173
00:47:22.030 --> 00:47:23.530
You gave him a bit of space and he fucking
1174
00:47:23.610 --> 00:47:24.409
drilled it top corner.
1175
00:47:24.510 --> 00:47:28.510
My, my, my, my grace, grace, my missus, my grace,
1176
00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:29.210
my dear grace.
1177
00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:33.070
Shit, I'd say, well, fucking hell, you need her, don't you?
1178
00:47:33.489 --> 00:47:36.940
Absolutely. But I have to, because on my, I often,
1179
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.619
as you know, I have a podcast called Oh My Dog.
1180
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.780
I was about to ask for the other podcast promo.
1181
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.739
Oh My Dog. Oh My Dog. And Class Clown. And
1182
00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:46.300
Class Clown, which you recently came on, and it was fantastic.
1183
00:47:46.380 --> 00:47:49.119
Grace is always having to correct me for things I've
1184
00:47:49.139 --> 00:47:51.909
said on Oh My Dog. So she wanted me to...
1185
00:47:52.329 --> 00:47:54.429
To actually just quickly mention, if I can, I know
1186
00:47:54.469 --> 00:47:59.449
we're short on time. Well, I mentioned the last time
1187
00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:02.030
I was here, I mentioned the breach birth, but it
1188
00:48:02.050 --> 00:48:05.510
was an emergency breach birth. And we didn't have that
1189
00:48:05.550 --> 00:48:08.659
with Casper. And so what happened was, I don't think
1190
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.699
we were kind of entirely or certainly I wasn't entirely
1191
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.039
aware of. the dangers of the emergency breech birth when
1192
00:48:16.059 --> 00:48:19.920
it was happening. Right. And actually Wilder's oxygen was cut off. Oh, God.
1193
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.400
Jesus fucking Lord. And all the red levers were pulled.
1194
00:48:22.539 --> 00:48:24.719
And in my kind of naivety and probably in the
1195
00:48:24.739 --> 00:48:28.690
kind of adrenaline of the birth anyway, I... And thank God,
1196
00:48:28.769 --> 00:48:31.829
either was grace totally. You weren't aware of what? We
1197
00:48:31.849 --> 00:48:35.170
weren't really aware of the seriousness of what happened. And then...
1198
00:48:35.510 --> 00:48:39.789
When we had Casper and it was an entirely smooth birth.
1199
00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:42.989
It was only then that I realised how kind of
1200
00:48:43.050 --> 00:48:47.539
horrific that first birth was. And I'm just so blessed
1201
00:48:48.099 --> 00:48:51.099
that it happened that way round. Because I was completely
1202
00:48:51.179 --> 00:48:55.960
oblivious to how horrific and scary that actually was. This
1203
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.360
terrible moment was happening in front of me. But luckily,
1204
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.659
I had absolutely no idea. It was the most me thing.
1205
00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:04.139
And I told you I passed out, didn't I, the
1206
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:04.659
first time round?
1207
00:49:04.929 --> 00:49:06.090
But there was none of that. Well, at least there's
1208
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:07.070
a reason why you passed out.
1209
00:49:07.090 --> 00:49:09.590
It was horrendous. Yeah, it makes sense now. Yeah, exactly.
1210
00:49:09.650 --> 00:49:11.650
Right, I've got your tour dates here. Okay, here we go.
1211
00:49:11.710 --> 00:49:13.389
So we've got the Bury St Edmunds Apex.
1212
00:49:13.409 --> 00:49:18.190
Oh, the Apex. Do the cities, and I'll name the venues. Yeah, okay.
1213
00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:18.750
Here we go.
1214
00:49:18.769 --> 00:49:19.949
Have you heard of Leeds?
1215
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:22.360
The City Varieties.
1216
00:49:22.900 --> 00:49:27.579
Musical. Hartford. Beam. Correct. Chorley.
1217
00:49:28.420 --> 00:49:29.099
Little Theatre.
1218
00:49:29.260 --> 00:49:29.559
Correct.
1219
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.619
Basingstoke.
1220
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.159
Anvil. Haymarket. Don't look at me.
1221
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:34.800
Maidstone.
1222
00:49:35.579 --> 00:49:36.079
Hazlitt.
1223
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:36.579
Correct.
1224
00:49:36.619 --> 00:49:42.739
Cambridge. Cambridge. Junction. Junction. Yep. Stamford. Corn Exchange. Correct. Sheffield. Classic.
1225
00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:48.690
I love the Stamford Corn Exchange. Sheffield. Oh. Crucible. Steamworks.
1226
00:49:49.090 --> 00:49:49.550
Taunton.
1227
00:49:49.849 --> 00:49:50.789
Brewhouse. Correct.
1228
00:49:51.050 --> 00:49:52.730
Swansea. You'll never know.
1229
00:49:52.769 --> 00:49:53.329
I don't know.
1230
00:49:53.369 --> 00:49:57.130
Taliesin. What the fuck's that?
1231
00:49:57.150 --> 00:49:57.710
I've got no idea.
1232
00:49:57.750 --> 00:49:58.409
Good luck getting there.
1233
00:49:58.630 --> 00:50:01.469
Yeah. Southend. Cliffs.
1234
00:50:01.889 --> 00:50:02.250
Palace.
1235
00:50:02.610 --> 00:50:05.550
Winchester. Don't know. Never been there. Theatre Royal. Yep. Brighton.
1236
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.239
Court Exchange. Correct. Crewe. Oh, that is nice.
1237
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:10.079
Lyceum.
1238
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:10.400
Yep.
1239
00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:12.880
Coventry. It's not Coventry.
1240
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:14.530
It's Warwick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1241
00:50:14.929 --> 00:50:15.449
Folkestone.
1242
00:50:15.849 --> 00:50:16.449
Quarter House.
1243
00:50:17.269 --> 00:50:17.809
Yeah, Quarter House.
1244
00:50:17.829 --> 00:50:19.630
Lyme Regis. Don't know. No idea.
1245
00:50:19.750 --> 00:50:22.469
Marine Theatre. Fucking nightmare getting out of that. About an
1246
00:50:22.510 --> 00:50:23.650
hour of country lanes.
1247
00:50:23.969 --> 00:50:24.389
Okay.
1248
00:50:24.429 --> 00:50:24.909
Swindon.
1249
00:50:25.429 --> 00:50:32.929
Wyvern. Yep. Exeter. Northcote. Yep. Bristol. Bristol. Vic. Redgrove. Hull.
1250
00:50:33.489 --> 00:50:33.789
Truck.
1251
00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:35.849
Yeah. God, it's like doing You Bet.
1252
00:50:40.670 --> 00:50:41.309
Liverpool.
1253
00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:42.269
Don't know.
1254
00:50:42.369 --> 00:50:43.809
Epstein Theatre. That's got to be renamed.
1255
00:50:43.829 --> 00:50:51.849
Oh, no. What is that? I thought Colston Hall was bad.
1256
00:50:51.909 --> 00:50:52.389
Salford.
1257
00:50:52.929 --> 00:50:53.349
Lowry.
1258
00:50:53.570 --> 00:50:54.170
Northampton.
1259
00:50:54.449 --> 00:50:56.780
Correct. Derngate. Correct.
1260
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:56.969
London.
1261
00:50:58.400 --> 00:50:59.599
Hack the Empire. Correct. Yes.
1262
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.059
Well done. That's a great talk. You'll smash it, Sean.
1263
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.320
Oh, yeah. Great fun. Thank you.
1264
00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:05.639
That takes you through to October.
1265
00:51:05.860 --> 00:51:06.139
Hang on.
1266
00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:06.639
No.
1267
00:51:07.179 --> 00:51:09.480
Yeah, there's a spring talk and then the London one's
1268
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:10.619
in October and we'll see.
1269
00:51:10.659 --> 00:51:11.659
We'll probably put in more.
1270
00:51:11.500 --> 00:51:12.880
Dates before that and all of that.
1271
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.619
That's all before June.
1272
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.260
Lovely. Stuff. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me.
1273
00:51:19.860 --> 00:51:20.420
Sean Walsh.
1274
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:21.840
Love a bit of Sean Walsh.
1275
00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:23.119
Love a bit of Sean Walsh.
1276
00:51:23.179 --> 00:51:25.840
One of the best stand-ups in the country. I'm going
1277
00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:26.980
to go and see him in Folkestone, I think.
1278
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:27.639
Are you?
1279
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.000
My parents always go and see him. They live down there,
1280
00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:31.030
so I'm going to try and get to that one.
1281
00:51:31.429 --> 00:51:31.639
Good.
1282
00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:34.510
Go and see Sean Walsh. This is torture across the
1283
00:51:34.610 --> 00:51:35.210
UK now.
1284
00:51:35.769 --> 00:51:36.789
See you next week, Josh. Bye.