บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Odyssey Fail, Flock Cameras Overreach, And A Greedy Pastor

Where's it going? 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.400 They're saying they're deleting it, but how do you know? 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:38.159 Yeah, they say after 30 days they delete it unless there's the need to hold on to something. 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:39.680 Yeah, I don't know, man. 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.520 I don't, I don't, I I'm I I get it. 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:45.439 I I I don't like Big Brother. 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:47.360 I do, but I don't, you know. 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:55.439 You know, uh Turney and I had a interesting conversation about AI and kind of like this technology. 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:56.000 Right. 00:02:56.400 --> 00:03:20.159 And uh his take on it, he he brought up a really interesting thing was um um Tom, if you're listening, I don't know if you are, but anyway, um it was about um how AI can search back through everything that you've ever done once it has enough information about you, like receipts, like places you've been, right? 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:35.120 Everything to the point to where it could determine a percentage of you based on your personality, your everything about you, how likely are you are to prevent to to commit a crime commit a certain type of. 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:36.639 It sounds like that damn movie. 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:37.439 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:42.240 Yeah, that was that was a movie if you're referring to the one with um Christopher Pratt. 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:42.800 Yeah, yeah. 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:43.280 What was that? 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:44.000 Is that his name? 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:44.479 Chris Pratt. 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:46.000 Yeah, Chris Pratt, yeah. 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:51.599 Yeah, so like he had like so much time to to prove his innocent that he did not kill his wife. 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:58.800 Yeah, I I'm not a big fan of AI keeping track of me or anybody, really, honestly. 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:03.039 I mean, I don't think it's it's uh it's yeah, I mean, you can't put all your faith into it. 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.159 I mean, it it gets some things wrong, um, simple things. 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:07.599 Yeah, it gets wrong. 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:14.400 So I think it's a tool, but you know, it's not it's not beat all, like it's not end all every, you know, everything. 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:15.439 So no. 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:27.439 But anyway, um like seeing like all right, so another thing about AI is I I'm seeing a lot of these advertisements on my social media about hey, we'll advertise AI. 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:29.279 It's we do it through AI. 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.920 I'm like, how are you doing this and attracting leads from AI? 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:41.120 All the all the well, all your search criteria on Google is going to AI search results based on things on your site. 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.240 I'm learning all about that and trying to keep ahead of the game on that. 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:49.600 Um, just met with

a friend of mine that's a web developer that we're gonna talk that talk about this. 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:51.600 He's got some really good insight. 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:56.800 Uh, stuff like an AI secretary uh for you to answer your calls. 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:58.319 Yeah, I don't I don't like that. 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.680 And yeah, you've had it, you probably encountered it on some of your calls. 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:05.759 I did this morning, as a matter of fact, when I called um company about my shirts. 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:06.399 Oh, yeah. 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:10.879 And uh that was an AI generated uh really yeah, yeah, it chopped me back. 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:20.000 I emailed it and it emailed me based on what I it was emailing about, a a whole list of things to do to correct the problem. 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:21.120 That was kind of cool. 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:23.360 If it works, I'm still trying to figure it out. 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:33.199 I'm not see it's not exact like there's there's a point to where AI is going, it works, but there's a point to where, like, all right, you gotta stop it, you know, get on a personal level. 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.160 Like for me, if I'm looking for something, right? 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.480 And say I'm looking for bail bonding, right? 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:42.160 Say I'm looking for bail bonding. 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:44.319 I don't want to talk to an AI person. 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:49.839 I'm in, I'm in some, like I'm yeah, I'm gonna bond somebody out, loved one, whatever. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:51.600 And I want to be able to talk to somebody. 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:53.680 Yeah, I had that yeah, that with that web developer. 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:54.800 He's trying to tell me all about that. 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.680 I'm like, man, that's really cool for another industry. 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.519 I'm sure it's very cool. 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:03.439 People call us because they need something now, immediately. 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.720 But then again, even like, all right, so my tree service. 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:14.639 I don't people want to talk to folks, they don't want to talk to AI because it they feel like what the hell is like is this real or not? 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:15.600 Right. 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:22.959 Well it's new, yeah, and people don't understand it, and hell, I don't understand half of it. 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:24.639 Yeah, yeah, I get it. 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:38.639 So it's it's weird, like, like I'm not saying for it to replace a person talking, but it could answer some questions that people may have, especially in our industry, which but that personal relationship goes a long way. 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.959 And you know it, because I mean you talk to you talk to everybody that we get phone calls from. 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:53.040 Yeah, we just got a call this morning from a lady that we're gonna be doing a bond for her

daughter, and like, you know, she actually almost got scammed that that we had another podcast about. 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.959 Yeah, that is going around rampantly. 00:06:55.199 --> 00:07:07.199 I'm hearing I'm literally everybody I talk to now, I'm asking them, did you get called by someone who pretended to be either a bondsman or a police officer telling you they could get your person out of jail? 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:12.000 Yeah, so if this is your first time listening to us, do not it's do not give money to somebody. 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:13.199 They are on it. 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:33.600 As soon as a person gets in jail, these scammers are looking up, I don't know how, I mean, where their resources are, but they're finding the next to kin and they're calling them and saying that they're with the police department and they're they can get them out for you without a bond, put a monitor on them, and you'll get the money back when they complete the case. 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:34.319 Well, guess what? 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:43.199 Once they get your money, because they get down to using a uh Cash App or uh Apple Pay or one of them apps. 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.680 Don't you think the FBI should be looking into these? 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:50.319 I really do, man, because I mean that's a lot of people in our little area of the world, man. 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:52.399 I know people are getting scammed big time. 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:58.959 I mean, we just did one for a guy that made two grand and still had to get his kid out of jail. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.040 And that was more than what the bond was. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:01.680 Yeah. 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:13.360 Like, yeah, so uh do not pay somebody Apple Pay or Venmo Cash App that you've never met, that you have no idea what's going on, especially a sheriff's department. 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.480 Sheriff's department will never call and ask you for money. 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:18.800 Absolutely not, unless you're like donating. 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:24.800 Yeah, I mean a donation, but I mean they're not gonna say you can get somebody out of jail over the phone or through an app. 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:25.600 That's not happening. 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:26.160 Nope. 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:27.680 So don't believe it. 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:35.440 Um I I just can't I just can't believe this is still going on and no, and it's not been brought up any anymore anywhere else. 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:36.559 Yeah, I know. 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.200 It's it's amazing to me because every day I hear it. 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.279 All right, so here it conspiracy time. 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:42.960 Conspiracy time. 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:52.159 Do you think people on the left, far, far left, are trying to do this to say, hey, look, see, Bell Bombins are scammers, you know? 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:53.279 You see what I'm saying? 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:55.200 Yeah, I see where you're going with that. 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.519 Um it sounds like something stupid some group might try. 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:00.240 Right. 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.480 But I mean, I mean, come on. 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:11.200 They're but I mean, uh, but when they get to the part where pay with a app, that should be your red flag should go up big time when you get to that. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:11.679 Right. 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:12.399 You know. 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:17.840 But I guess people want convenience. 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:23.120 They're also in a moment of uh you know dire need to get something done immediately. 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:23.360 Right. 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:24.879 So they're willing to believe it. 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.519 So I guess that's why these are successful. 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:34.559 Uh just if anybody's got an in at FBI, how about give them a uh a shout and let's do it? 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:40.960 They really need, I mean, I really think when they do practice, they're gonna get a ring of people, like a lot. 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:42.080 A lot of people, yeah. 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.240 I think because I'm hearing it in other states. 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.919 Like I'm talking, uh, I've heard it in the middle of the United States. 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.200 We're on the East Coast. 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:51.840 I mean, there's all up and down the coast. 00:09:51.919 --> 00:10:00.080 Uh I've seen I've seen bonds of friends of mine that you know, ours that uh I'm on like Facebook with, and they're saying, and they're all saying the same thing. 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.039 Hey, do not give these people money, do not do this. 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.000 And I mean it's but they they sound legit. 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:07.120 They sound legit. 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.519 Just hang up the phone, call the jail back and go, hey, this is what was said to me. 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:13.279 What's going on, really? 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.480 And they'll tell you it's a scam, I guarantee you. 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:16.879 All right. 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:18.559 Well, we we wore that one in the ground. 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:19.360 Everybody knows. 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.039 So well, what else you got? 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.399 That Odyssey movie. 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.080 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:24.559 Okay. 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:25.279 Yeah. 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:26.559 I want to say, all right. 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.080 Somebody told me you had to I had to watch it because I'm going to Greece here in a few weeks. 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.399 No, you don't gotta watch it because you've been in the Greece. 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:33.120 I don't know. 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:34.960 No, I don't think I'm going to. 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:46.320 In fact, I just read that Greece removed it from their theaters because it's a disservice to the actual story of

what they've done to it. 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:55.440 Um, the leak character is a trans woman dude that's became a woman. 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.240 And like that's supposed to be this is used to be Brad Pitt's character, right? 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:04.000 So is it a chick that's now trying to be a dude, or is it a Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:05.039 A chick's trying to be a dude. 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:05.600 Oh, okay, okay. 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:06.080 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:07.279 It's confusing. 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:14.960 But um, yeah, so I believe this is the same story that Brad uh Brad Pitt did, and he did a really good job. 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:19.679 Well, well, it the Trojan, the Trojan horse, you know, where they uh Troy. 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:20.960 It was Troy, yeah. 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:30.879 Where they, you know, it back in the day they hid all they all hid in this Trojan horse, got wheeled into a city, and then it was it was a setup, you know, they got out and they killed everybody at night. 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:38.240 Yeah, but and but that's that's a good story because you know it that happened a long time ago, but now now this is happening. 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:44.399 What I mean, I'm kind of now I wonder what disservice they did in the movie. 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.840 Well, one, they had a trans person pretending to be a badass. 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:48.399 Oh. 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.159 I got no balls. 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.440 Literally, literally, yeah. 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:58.639 Um no testosterone at all. 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.200 No, no, I mean, yeah, and there's there's other parts of it. 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:01.919 I don't I don't know. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:09.120 I've I've listened to some other podcasts, um, things that have been said, they're trying to hype it as being a great a great movie. 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.679 So were you trying to say not not to go watch it? 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:12.799 Don't watch it. 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:14.720 No, don't fall for it. 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.240 Um Steven Crowder's got a great bit about it. 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.360 About how, yeah, it's it's it's terrible. 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.320 Don't give them your money to watch that shit. 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:25.360 Well, good. 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:29.600 I'm glad I'm uh I'm not I'm glad I'm not interested in watching that. 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:38.480 I because you know I did some, you know, since I'm going, since I'm going, I did some you know research, you know, looking up to see what things are going over there, like what kind of food. 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:40.159 Like I'm down for the food. 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:41.440 Yeah, it's all clean. 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:44.879 Yeah, I I cannot wait to try that and the cheeses and stuff like that. 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:54.639 But I was looking at the history on the place, and I can't wait to see the actual history versus what you know we're seeing, we see over here, but you know, it's a lot different in person. 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:56.559 So I'm kind of interested in that. 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:57.759 What else do you have? 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.840 Uh let's see here. 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:01.039 Oh, Iran. 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.519 Let's talk a little bit on Iran because I kind of you know, who gives a shit anymore? 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:07.759 No, who nobody knows what's going on. 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:08.399 No. 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.840 They're talking, they're not talking, they're blowing shit up. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.440 I saw I saw an old tanker got blown up in the Strait of Hermoose. 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:16.240 Yeah, I saw that. 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:18.799 They hit a mine and uh blew up. 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:27.759 Well, okay, so there was like uh there's something, I think it was Fox News I saw, where they were talking about enriched Iranium. 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:37.600 They they there's a spot where they're they've dug it out deeper to go store it at that they think it's at, and our B-2 bombers can't get to it. 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.559 So I'm like, okay, so I'm confused. 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:45.679 You told me there's no more, now they're telling me there is, and it's deeper, we can't get to it. 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:51.600 Now, come on, is this something like the the news media is trying to like conjure up the story? 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.279 You know, who the hell knows? 00:13:53.759 --> 00:14:08.799 But what I did see that I know that's for real is you know how like back in the day Iran used to be a very productive country in the world before the Ayatollah took over. 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:09.360 Okay. 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:21.679 All right, so now the people that represent the old Iran, they're protesting, and they were I saw a video of them in the streets and they're all protesting, trying to take they want their country back. 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:28.080 But they gotta take it away from the Ayantola, the IGRC, or or I whatever you want to call it. 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:36.240 Um they want to take it back, which that's what I know Trump was saying that's what he wanted to happen long time ago. 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:37.840 Hey, take your country back. 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:49.360 So I'm hoping like to see some good coming out of this, instead of us just kind of being at a stalemate and all we're doing is blowing up shit and our gra and our gas prices are still high. 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:52.320 Yeah, I don't know. 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:57.519 Iran, I mean every day it's like it's like groundholding, you know, with Iran. 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:57.840 Yeah. 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.600 So I hope they can do something with that place. 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:03.279 Yeah, I don't know. 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:05.840 Um, let's see. 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:12.159 Another topic, sir,

is the Supreme Court sides with Trump revoking work visas for Haitians. 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:13.600 Yeah, saw the story. 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:26.720 So 300,000 Haitians are losing their uh work visas because what happened was they came here in 2010, I believe it was. 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:27.039 Yeah. 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:36.159 And they were um they were here on a temporary status, and they managed to make that a more permanent status. 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.679 Uh evidently there's a lot of them in Springfield, Ohio. 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:40.240 Right. 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:44.320 And uh so as of today they have lost. 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:46.720 This is like going into effect immediately. 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.399 Why in the middle of nowhere like that? 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:50.399 I I'm I'm I don't know. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.200 Why do Muslims choose uh Minnesota? 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:59.840 You mean well that yeah, you mean the uh Haitians or the um what are they called? 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:00.320 Is that right? 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.320 Haitians uh no shit, Somalians. 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:03.919 Somalians, excuse me. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:06.159 Uh Somali Yes. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:07.279 Yeah, Somalians. 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:08.799 I I don't I don't understand it. 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.840 I I'm um yeah, so I I don't know. 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:16.320 There there must be some rhyme or reason, you know, to why they flock to one area. 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:18.399 Well, I mean, who knows? 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:23.360 I don't know, but they need to go because there's nothing good gonna come of it. 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:27.440 I'm not gonna lie to you, Derek Chad, and you we expressed the same. 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:29.840 When we were there in Minnesota, we kept to ourselves. 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.200 Yeah, but it was very uneasy. 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:34.799 Is is very noticeable. 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:49.279 Um, I noticed that there was one working in almost every restaurant, store, airport area, and like well, there was that that one that was in at our terminal that was that was checking us in. 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:49.919 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.279 Uh male and female yelling at us, and we didn't do nothing. 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:54.159 We're just standing there. 00:16:54.399 --> 00:17:03.360 Yeah, like they were the ones that said you could board, and then they were, you know, like I I did not did not care for that one bit. 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.440 That's one group I I'm very open about. 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:06.880 It was very uneasy. 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:08.559 Yeah, very uneasy. 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:10.880 So anyway. 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:17.039 If I went to your country, I would want to assimilate to your culture, your ways. 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:21.440 Yeah, you don't come here and try to make it yours. 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.039 You gotta be respectful. 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:31.680 I mean, but but people like that don't know how to don't respect they they they they don't have they're like locusts, they they infest and they destroy. 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:33.839 Ah, that's a good analogy. 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:35.200 Yeah, that's what they are. 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.279 Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good one. 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.559 Anyway, so Chad's got one for you today, guys. 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.799 So we changing it up a little bit today. 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.279 Um, normally we tell a go getcha story. 00:17:45.440 --> 00:18:01.759 Um today um I thought it'd be interesting to talk about um some of these bonds that we do, and a lot of a lot of cases that are in court um are are very large bonds that people just can't make it. 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:07.519 But the judges are pressured to put these large bonds because of what they supposedly have done. 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:09.519 So it's kind of a catch-22. 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:18.240 The solution that the courts have been doing over the past few years is to reduce your bond, but you gotta wear an ankle monitor so we know where you at. 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:19.200 Oh, yeah. 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:19.839 Right? 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.000 And we've we had those in the office. 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.400 Um we have we have um some cool wrist ones uh that people tend to like. 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.079 But the courts, if the courts order, it's a county-issued thing, so the county is paying for it. 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:33.440 You get that nice ankle. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:35.440 And it's that's taxpayer money. 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:36.559 Yeah, that's taxpayer money. 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:46.079 So the state allots so much money and they give it out based on, I think, per capita of the uh population of certain counties throughout the state. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:46.640 Right. 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:51.680 So you you know, each county gets this much to spend on monitoring. 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.799 Well, we had a case. 00:18:54.960 --> 00:19:00.240 Um, we've had a few where, you know, these are we're actually looking at one in Wake County. 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.680 Guys on a$3.5 million bond. 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:04.000 Yeah. 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:09.839 We're hoping that gets reduced, which is it's a murder case, but they've got him as first degree. 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:10.960 It should be second degree. 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:12.960 What first degree is premeditated. 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:14.000 This was not. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.240 So we're he didn't know the guy. 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:16.799 Yeah, yeah. 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:17.920 So that's a different story. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:25.680 But he's gonna have to wear an ankle monitor as a condition to lower his bond greatly, which he can make. 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.039 So, anyway, that's kind of along the storyline.

00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:40.000 But what we had one years ago, right before Rob came on, we were in a different office, and I had a call from a group of people that were basically a congregation of a preacher. 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:54.160 This preacher came from Florida, came up here to our area south of us, and um he um was charged with some some serious charges. 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:58.480 So he had a um what is it called, fugitive from another state. 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:11.680 So whenever you get accused of something and you decide you're gonna leave on a felony charges like you did, then you can be put in fugitive status when you're found in a another another state. 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:13.599 If you're an NCIC. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:14.319 Right, right? 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:15.200 A governor's warrant. 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:16.799 Yeah, a governor's warrant. 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.200 So that's what this guy had. 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:21.599 Now he had his congregation. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.039 It was three couples that came to our office. 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:32.400 And uh nice people, um, husband, wife, three couples, they wanted to get this preacher out. 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.359 All right, so I'm gonna stop you there. 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:35.920 Preacher. 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:37.440 What are we naming the preacher? 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:45.359 Well, who who's the um who's the preacher that like that back in remember back in the 90s who like scammed a bunch of people? 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:53.359 Well, when I Googled this story, um actually there, yeah, there were a few preachers that popped up. 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:58.000 So as long as I don't say this guy's name, apparently it's not telling you exactly who it is. 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:02.240 Um but um we gotta nickname him one of them preachers. 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.799 Um I don't know, man. 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:05.200 I don't know. 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.279 Joel Joel Osteen. 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:08.960 Um you're telling me that's a good thing. 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:10.880 Dude, these made these made churches, man. 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:17.759 You got these mega churches, you know that that dude they there's a special place in hell for him. 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:38.559 Yeah, so what this guy did, man, was he he told his congregation that they could invest in this it was it was we we I wanna I don't want to give too much away, but it was it was an investment opportunity into a commodity. 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:40.480 All right, all right. 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:47.440 So these people invested into this thinking that he was gonna uh you know grow their money. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:48.319 Right. 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:49.039 All right. 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:57.599 So what he did instead was he paid his bills, uh uh his debt, and he went on a little shopping spree for like a couple years. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:08.319 Oh yeah, and he was Evidently, he was part of a larger Ponzi scheme that was going from Florida up to New York. 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:14.319 And several states involved, and another another guy that was a partner. 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:14.960 Right. 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:15.519 All right. 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.200 So meanwhile, this three couples, you know, they love this guy. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.319 I I got cult vibes when they were in the office. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:24.480 You know, I felt like this was a cult. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.119 I think like I I barely remember this. 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:27.680 Yeah. 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:29.519 I mean, I really did, man. 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:33.359 And I was a little uneasy with it talking with them, you know. 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:41.680 But these people, I mean, you know, these were, you know, folks that own their homes or buying their homes, you know, they were home on it. 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:46.480 They weren't, they weren't just fly by the night, left Florida, and you know, we're gonna get this guy. 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:47.920 They were established. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.000 And that's what we're you know, we're looking for. 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.279 So I had all three of them co-sign the bond. 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.359 The bond was like, it was sizable. 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.519 I'll I'll say it was a hundred thousand, something like that. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:58.960 I know it was up there. 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:03.519 And I made it one of the conditions that he have to wear. 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.680 This was not county issues, this was privately, privately paid. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.039 In order for me to do this bond, he's gonna have to wear an ankle monitor. 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:12.079 Yep, and pay for it. 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:13.680 Yeah, and uh they agreed. 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:15.440 Who do you scan who do they like? 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:20.799 I'm like, this protects not only me, but you three people that signed this paper. 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:29.599 Now, now you had to be careful when you take money from these people because you don't know, you know, what's you know, what's scammed or what's not. 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:41.759 Oh well, uh each one of them, I believe, I believe the story was um that each one of them paid a percentage, you know, probably about a third uh to to cover them the bond fee. 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:49.440 So we get the preacher out and we put the monitor on, and you know, it was hallelujah in office with everybody. 00:23:49.759 --> 00:24:04.319 And uh it was it seemed okay, you know, at the time, but it was it probably wasn't a two weeks later, and I started getting text messages and calls from this this guy complaining about having to wear this monitor. 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:05.440 Oh, here we go. 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:09.680 I said, look, man, I said, here's the way fugitive warrants work. 00:24:10.160 -->

00:24:17.759 You have a court appearance at the Brunswick County courthouses where the where you were arrested. 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:28.559 And so basically, Brunswick County says, Hey, Florida, I've got your guy up here, he's gonna have court on uh you know the 30th of each month. 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:28.960 Right. 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:34.559 You're gonna have three consecutive months where you have to be there on a certain date every 30 days. 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.000 You have to sit there all day. 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:39.920 90 days they will hold you. 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:40.640 All right. 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.799 So they've given Florida the notice. 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.680 Hey, you guys here, he'll be here on this date, right? 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.119 This date, and this date. 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:56.240 Each time he goes and they don't pick him up on the third one or the 90th day, nobody came to get you. 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:01.440 That that says North Carolina says, All right, we told you he's here. 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:05.599 Now we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, he's he's no longer held by us. 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:06.319 Right. 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:10.240 So his case is disposed as of North Carolina. 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.880 But it's not disposed in Florida. 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:14.079 No, it's not. 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.359 And if he went back to Florida, it would be active if he got pulled over. 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:18.079 Right. 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:20.319 So, um, but he's done here. 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:29.440 So, all right, but during this period of time, that dude called and whined and cried about his ankle and you know, everything about it. 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:34.400 And I was like, look, man, this was the stipulation of getting you out, you were fine with it. 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.359 And I remember so I remember this now, yeah. 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:43.599 And I remember you going, hey, we need to put this guy on our radar because we don't know what's about to happen. 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:51.039 Yeah, so I mean, you know, it's not like this guy was like doing you know strenuous exercises, right? 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.960 Something that's gonna make you really like work it hurt your ankle. 00:25:55.039 --> 00:26:04.160 I mean, there's a lot of people that wear these things, they're not the most comfortable and they're not pretty, but you know, they also people deal with it, you know, and you only got 90 days to do it. 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:15.119 So we finally got down to the 90th day, and thank gosh, I mean, he he was such a pain in my butt about crying about that thing. 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.200 And so I I went to the courthouse the day of it. 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:24.799 I pulled up, and um when when we we first got him out, I had all the information. 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.839 I knew what car he would be in, everything. 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:33.680 And I I pulled up and I found the car in the parking lot, and I went into the courthouse to make sure he was there. 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.920 So it was our monitor also, so I could see where he was at. 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.960 Because my whole concern is you can cut these bracelets off. 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:41.599 People do. 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:48.319 I mean, they they have wires that run through them, so if you cut it, you know, we get a notification that you cut it and you're running. 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:53.920 As a matter of fact, my old office outside, and I've got it on my website. 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:59.039 I took a picture of a um probation officer that had it on the back of his vest. 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:07.680 And I remember I was sitting there and I got a big window and I was looking at the office, and I saw this officer take the lid off the trash can and was digging through it. 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.039 And I went outside, I said, Hey man, what are you what are you doing? 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:19.119 He's like, Did you see some uh chunky, chunky blonde-haired guy run by here and throw something in the trash by chance? 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:26.319 And I said, Yeah, as a matter of fact, I did because I was thinking he looked like somebody but like a thicker version of him. 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:27.039 Right. 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:35.920 And I and just when we were talking, he reaches and he grabs his um monitor out of the trash and holds it up. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.680 I wish I would have got a picture of that, but I I just got one of him rooting through the trash. 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:45.920 Anyway, um, he's like, Yeah, he goes, he he uh cut that off and ran out of the courthouse. 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.720 Wow, and so this is where he threw it, you know. 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:56.720 So I say, you know, to people, electronic monitoring has its place, its purpose, but it's not an end-all. 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:09.759 No, it's it's um uh let's see, for us, it would be more of all right, you got one on, that's great, but if you cut it off, it's also gonna show us breadcrumbs. 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:10.240 Right. 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.680 It establishes a pattern, is what what it what it basically does. 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:15.039 People are creatures of habit. 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:16.160 Creatures of habit, dude. 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:16.960 I was just about to say that. 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:17.440 Yeah, huh? 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:31.839 I'm sorry, I didn't miss too much, but but that's what's that's basically, and so if you if you go day by day, you'll see certain places where people frequent, you know, and that's kind of the purpose of a GPS, in my opinion. 00:28:32.079 --> 00:29:00.000 Um, but anyway, so we got that off the guy, and uh he was so relieved, and I was relieved, and the congregation of people, the the group of people were they were happy, and um so it was

like two weeks later, I believe it was, two or three weeks later, I get a call uh from some guy from the FBI, and uh he wanted to know where I was showing that guy. 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.480 He's like, I know you got a monitor on this guy. 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.640 Um, where's he at right now? 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.400 I said, Well, his court case was a couple weeks ago, like, yeah, that was final judgment. 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.839 I had to take it off. 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:16.000 And he was like, Oh, he'd say, You you got you don't you don't know where he's at? 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.599 And it's like, well, here's the last address that I had for him, but that's that's all I have. 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.880 I mean, he cleared his case with me, so you know, he's done. 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.400 And uh, he's like, Yeah, we've got more warrants for him. 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.079 So man, it's it's funny. 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.720 I was just looking at this story in the follow-up. 00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:40.880 It turned out this guy, along with this other people, he ended up having to pay, along with this other person, like over eight and a half million dollars in rescue. 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.359 Oh my god, for this, yeah. 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.000 And serving some years in prison. 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:46.720 Wow. 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:51.359 So uh apparently um he did get picked back up. 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.319 And uh well, it didn't wasn't a good outcome. 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.640 So things didn't work out for old Joel. 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:58.559 Yeah, Joel, that's what we call him, Joel. 00:29:58.720 --> 00:29:59.680 Yeah, we're gonna call him Joel. 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:00.480 All right, Joel. 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.880 Because I'm telling you, one day you're gonna see that, you're gonna see him in damn jail for something. 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:10.480 Uh, and there's a there's another, there's a there's a few of these preachers, um preacher guys. 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.279 The guy there's one, I can't remember his name to save my life. 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:17.759 He bought he bought a jet from uh uh an actor. 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:25.039 Um I I I don't think that's that's what God wants you to do is is buy expensive things. 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:32.640 You're you're supposed to be set an example to people, you know, just because you might have a successful church. 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.079 And people go along with it. 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:35.440 That's what's crazy to me. 00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:36.640 I'm like, hold on. 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.440 You you can't see the forest for the trees. 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:40.079 Yeah. 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.160 Man, I I just that's what I hate. 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.160 I hate that part about religion. 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:46.960 Yeah. 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.000 You know, when it c like it's money, like greed. 00:30:50.400 --> 00:31:01.119 Like Jesus didn't he didn't have he didn't preach from no uh temple or you know, or well, I mean he did eventually, but I'm saying he preached on a rock. 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:01.839 Right. 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.880 Uh the sea, which is pretty pretty cool. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.319 I mean, you're right by the water, I'm down with it. 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.400 Yeah, so that's Joel. 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:13.359 Oh Joel. 00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:32.079 And uh yeah, I just thought that would be a little change up, you know, it lets you let you see kind of what we what we encounter uh from the binding side, not always the go-getcha, because that was a potential go getcha case, but uh that was uh that's just what we you know have to deal with. 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.079 I mean, we have other other stories of those type situations too. 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.839 Um yeah, I've got I've got a real good one I could tell. 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.799 Um we have to say that for next time, brother. 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:43.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:48.640 And um, oh yeah, one of the topics we did not get into was young people and socialism. 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:55.440 I made a nice I made a cool shirt over the weekend because I'm hearing so much about socialism. 00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:16.720 And uh it's again, it's off of uh Rogan's conversation with um how people how young people are kind of like we won't go too deep into this, but how they're looking at it because they're having trouble paying for things, so they're looking at this as that's a possibility to to make them survive is socialism. 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:18.400 That's that's a slippery spot. 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:22.559 A lot of businesses have left New York and they've lost a lot of revenue because of it. 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:23.119 Uh Mr. 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:23.839 Mundami. 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.640 Uh he's uh put it on a credit card. 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:28.079 I don't get it. 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:28.799 I just don't get it. 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.920 Well, you I tell you what, show me one one place where it worked. 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.359 I'll go and I'll they just didn't do it hard enough, Rob. 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:36.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.160 They didn't do it the right way. 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:39.200 Yeah, okay. 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:39.839 Right. 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:40.640 Right. 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:42.480 Well, that's it, man. 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:43.759 That's another great episode. 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:44.960 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:46.640 Do a little Jimmy there. 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:47.119 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:47.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:48.240 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:49.279 All right, guys. 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:50.480 Well, I'm Rob. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:51.359 And I'm Chad. 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.559 And we'll see you next time. 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:53.039 Peace. 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.400 You've been listening to Off the Hook with Chad and Rob. 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.960 We hope you've enjoyed the show. 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.599 Make sure to like, rate, and review. 00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:07.680 And be sure to follow us for notifications for another exciting episode. 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:15.680 But in the meantime, you can go to our website at www.offthehookfill.com to see more. 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.599 So until next time, stay out of trouble, or it'll be code that needs to get off the hook.