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When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
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They go back home to mommy.
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And that is when these guys come into the picture.
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So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob.
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Very fine people on both sides.
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These are real stories, but the names have been changed.
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What's going on?
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guys, I'm Rob and I'm Chad, and we have a special guest.
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Absolutely so.
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Before I tell you who this fine young man is here beside me, it's been a pleasure.
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It's been a minute since we did a podcast until now, but so we're trying to get back in the groove of things here.
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So I got something special for our guy here.
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Hang on, ready, all right.
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So let me introduce you to Mr for our guy here.
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Hang on, ready, all right.
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So let me introduce you to Mr Hunter Ford.
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Here he is.
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Yes, he has been a buddy of mine for a long time, and this man is a local entrepreneur.
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He owns a few businesses here in town.
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He actually has a really good one.
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That's a local entrepreneur.
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He's owned a few businesses here in town.
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He actually has a really good one.
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That's a good song.
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Local boys make good.
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Got to give it up to Sean, man.
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Sean and them know what they're doing, man.
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They've done a really good job, man.
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I'm proud of them.
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So, mr Hunter Ford, here, he owns Momentum.
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Distillery.
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Momentum Distillery now yep, it's a carry-on from our Momentum Surf and Skate that we spent 17 years on the corner market in front.
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That's where I met you many moons ago with my 15-year-old, now almost 60.
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I've watched him grow up from little man to big man.
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Yeah, I remember it.
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When Biden skateboarded in front of me, he skateboarded down here at the Federal Courthouse and it says no skateboarding on it.
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Oh yeah, At the momentum board.
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I remember you running around with him picking up chicks, you know.
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So he was a chick magnet too, wasn't he?
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God, that was a long time ago, I know, Back in the old Ziggy's days.
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Yeah, man, he used to go to shows with us too, uh-huh.
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Yeah, well-seasoned, well-seasoned.
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So Hunter, he's been a good buddy of mine for a long time and he's been involved with politics here locally.
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He's done some radio show here locally.
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He's also been a big, big supporter of us and what we do as Bell Bondsmen.
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He's also been active with city council.
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You've got to keep those guys in check.
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Yeah, you do, man, because they get comfy and want to abuse it.
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Well, it's the most important thing that you can do as a citizen is to show up to your school board meetings, because you vote for those people.
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To show up for your city council, even if you don't vote for them, and you live in the county, and to vote on your county officials.
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I identify as a Republican and I ran for NC House District.
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I ran for NC House District 19 before the districts were changed back in 2018.
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District 19 before the districts were changed back in 2018.
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And it's really important that you get involved in local politics because that's where your decisions are made and that's what affects your daily life, what they're going to spend your taxpayer dollars locally on is a big deal, more so than the national politics.
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They're going to affect you a little bit harder, more so than the national politics.
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They're going to affect you a little bit harder.
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Yeah, because here in North Carolina, all the money we've said this before all the money from bail bondsmen that's paid through the forfeitures goes to the school system.
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So you know you want to be involved, because I mean that's.
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Yeah, we're talking on the average $11 to $14 million a year across the state of North Carolina in bail forfeiture revenue and that's gone down since the whole bail reform.
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Correct.
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Yeah, it's gone down.
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They say crime's gone down, but it's not true.
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When you're letting people out for crimes that's been committed and it never gets recorded.
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So that's important to note when you look at these statistics.
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Well, and you've got to think about too that crime might be down for first-time offenders,
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but crime is way up for recidivism, the people that are committing crimes without any kind of accountability.
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They're going to continue to commit crimes.
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They're career criminals at that point.
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In New Hanover County I believe you and I were talking about this, wasn't it?
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around 62% recidivism 62, 64% and then nationwide they were saying like 80% of people that have spent days in jail, their risk of recidivism is a pretty much foregone conclusion.
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Wow, it was that hard.
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Well, so that's a good.
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You know that's a big topic, you know it's something that's not going away.
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So tonight, whether we see it tonight on the debate or not, who knows?
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Yeah, so while we're filming this, this is the day of the big Paris Trump.
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Yeah, we're going to save an episode we did for next week.
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I would love for Trump, right off the get-go, to ask her are you here?
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I just want to make sure you're here, because the last person I debated wasn't here.
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So just from the get-go, are you here Are?
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you with us.
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Excuse me, I'm talking, it's going to be a lot of that.
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I'll go ahead and make that prediction.
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Well, and they've said, like how do you prepare to debate somebody like Kamala Harris that has had no real responsibilities?
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She didn't introduce any bills when she was in the Senate.
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She was the most liberal voting politician in the entire United States Senate.
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Her record as a prosecutor, getting put in that role by George Soros-backed funds and being a liberal prosecutor.
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How do you set up to debate against somebody that has no core value?
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She will flip-flop and go whichever way the wind blows.
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Well, here's my biggest concern.
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You know, Bidenomics is killing us all.
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It's killing everybody.
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I don't give a damn what side of the aisle you're on, but it's killing everybody's pocket.
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So she's going to get up there and say how she's going to do this and do that.
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Well, you're in office right now.
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Why aren't you doing something right now to swing that vote Exactly?
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And I don't think she has an answer for that.
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I mean, Trump, over the last two weeks, has been completely available off the script questions.
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He's answered them all with impunity.
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You know, you can tell that he believes in what he's saying and you can listen to her scripted answers.
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So she's had a chance to actually perform something that's pre-rehearsed and she still messes it up.
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Well, I saw something on TikTok the other day and I laughed my ass off.
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It was an interview from CNN, or it's one of them networks that I don't watch.
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So they're asking her about something and they're like well, a couple years ago you said the complete opposite.
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So what is it?
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And she was like I mean, you could tell in her face.
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She just didn't know what was going on.
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Didn't realize that there's actually video footage of that right.
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Yeah.
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Yes, there's a lot of aha moments for her.
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Look, I don't mind.
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I don't mind a woman president, but not this one, not this one.
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Yeah Well, even Trump said he'd take Hillary Clinton over Kamala Harris, you know.
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At least Hillary Clinton knows what the hell's going on.
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Of course, come on, she's been.
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She's been behind Biden this whole time and he don't know what the hell, he don't know what damn day it is.
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Well, I'm trying to figure out what she has done, because she says now that she wasn't the border czar.
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And we know that she didn't act as the border czar because of those hot mic moments where they asked her have you been to the border?
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And she said, well, I haven't been to Europe either.
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So you know, like, what has she done?
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over the last three and a half years.
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Can you answer a straight question?
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She veers off every time.
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I'm also curious how are they going to—there's no audience in the debate tonight?
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No, I don't think so.
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There's no audience.
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They have to leave the mics on, don't they?
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No, no, no, they're going to cut the mics.
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Oh, they're off, mm-hmm.
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Oh, she wanted them to be on so she could do that.
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Don't talk over me, I'm a woman and they're like nah, we're going to do it.
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The same way we did it with Joe Biden.
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Those were fair rules and when you look at the backdrop, there's no audience there but there's about a hundred different media folks that are spread out in the balconies and in the booths and stuff right there in front of where they set up as the debate stage.
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And debates are tough and you really want an audience to kind of give you that boost and that confidence when you're.
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When you're just doing it cold with no audience, you don't get to feel that give and take of I shouldn't say that again because it wasn't received well You're kind of left up to watching it post-debate and criticizing your own performance, which most people do anyways.
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But it's going to be interesting.
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I'm looking forward to it because I'm sure she's going to hot mic salad something.
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And we'll be talking about it for the next couple of weeks.
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You'll be hearing this Hot mic salad.
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Somebody that cackles all the time and laughs.
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Everything's funny to Kamala, right, it's all funny.
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He can't laugh.
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Four years of that laugh people.
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Can you take it your?
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401k is down the toilet.
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Unrealized taxes.
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I think that's the biggest policy presentation that she's made that people really need to take a hard look at.
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If you own something, if you own anything and it increases in value, then she wants you to pay unrealized capital gains on it.
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So your house goes up in value.
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Let's say your mother's elderly and she's in poor health.
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Your father's already passed away.
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You're doing everything you can.
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Maybe she's pulled money out of the house in a reverse mortgage.
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You're doing everything you can to take care of your mom and make sure that this is like a comfortable passing, no matter how long it takes.
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And all of a sudden the government says we want this unrecognized capital gains.
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We don't care what you've got going on in your personal life.
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Well, where do you come up with that money?
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You ultimately have to sell the house and you got to come up with something else to pay this tax because you don't want it to be in arrears, because, man, their interest rate on collections is ridiculous.
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This is another issue that I have.
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Your dollar is taxed.
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How many times?
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Do you know the actual number, percentage, how many times that dollar is taxed?
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Several hundred percent.
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It's got to be right.
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I mean, you think about just individual things, that you buy an automobile.
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You buy it, you pay sales tax.
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Uh, if you buy too big of one, then you pay a luxury tax.
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Uh, you have the tax title and tags.
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You know that's part of the, the sale of a vehicle.
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That's just one vehicle out of thousands that's being sold a day.
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Well, you've got to drive it, you might have to go through tolls, you've got to pay insurance and then now, under Kamala Harris, she wants you to pay unrecognized capital gains.
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So you've got a car that let's say what 20 years makes it a classic?
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You've got a 20-year-old piece of junk.
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Maybe they decide oh well, you know, we're going to assess the value of this because now it's a classic car.
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I mean, those are the kind of ridiculous things that the liberal left want to implement because they need money for their radical agenda.
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I'm so done with it, I'm so tired.
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Like Willie, I have looked into like finding somewhere else to go, like I honestly have been, and I don't want to.
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I've looked at non-extraditing countries, but that's for a whole different reason.
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Not while you're on bond, sir.
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That's right, that's right Me and.
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Chad will be busting down your fucking front door.
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Well, and that's what's fun about knowing about local politics Like I sent you guys on a hit job when District Attorney Ben David was meeting with some liberal people that were talking about.
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That's that meeting we went to.
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They were talking about bail reform Meeting, not meeting.
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Let's clarify.
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Let's clarify what he's talking about Meeting, not a hit job.
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I swear to God it wasn't.
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But it was a meeting with far-left liberals that wanted to implement this bail reform here in Wilmington and luckily he came to his senses while you guys were there and pretty much said well, you know, I see that this really didn't work in Durham and, I think, charlotte Mecklenburg area.
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Oh, they're way out there.
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They've lost their freaking minds there.
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The crime rate is through
the roof in.
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Charlotte, it's a little.
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Chicago in Charlotte.
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And as a business owner.
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That terrifies me because you look and see what's on the national news, these orchestrated smashing grabs and stores that have value.
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So a Louis Vuitton, a cell phone store man, I own a liquor store.
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Liquor stores are known for being robbed, so that terrifies me, this lawlessness.
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People that come from an area like Charlotte and New Hanover County I think that they do a relatively good job of, you know, basically bringing charges and prosecuting people that commit crimes.
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If Jason gets in, I know there will be.
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Yeah, we know where he stands on the problem and that was a great interview that you guys had with him last week, because that's something that people need to hear.
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I mean, these local elections are really, really important.
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These are the things that are going to affect you day to day, and there's a strategy for voting in local elections, and it moves up too.
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You start locally and then it moves up and you'll see it, because eventually you don't know that Jason Smith might one day he might go up and be Attorney General for the state of North Carolina and then from there he might go up and be attorney general for the state of North Carolina and then from there he might move.
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I mean, you'd never know.
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Hey, we know somebody that's running for governor right now.
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Yes, Mr Robinson.
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If you're listening, sir, we love you, we mean it and I cannot wait to see you.
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Love to have you on the podcast, mark, the first black governor for the state of North Carolina.
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That's going to be awesome.
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It's a really big deal.
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I was really close with Douglas Walder.
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I graduated from the Douglas Walder School of Government and Public Affair at VCU in Richmond.
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When he became governor he was the first black governor ever in the United States in the capital of the Confederacy, and it was a really big deal.
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It was a huge moment.
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That was back when Democrats you couldn't tell if they were a Democrat or Republican.
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You know he had a lot of social issues growing up black, having parents.
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He wrote a really great book called Virginia's Son.
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His grandparents were slaves and you think about how many generations that is away.
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That's something that you can touch, that's something that you can feel.
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That's somebody that's close to you and he implemented some huge changes that Democrats wouldn't do today.
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His biggest contribution to Virginia and just law enforcement in general was Project Exile.
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When he became governor he grew up in Richmond he said look the governor's mansion's here in Richmond we're not going to have the gun crime that we have.
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Project Exile was created after they found Jerry Oliver and they did what Wilmington didn't do when Wilmington looked for a new police chief.
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I think Donnie Williams, our chief of police in Wilmington, is highly unqualified.
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He was only hired as a DEI because he was the most senior black police officer in the Wilmington Police Department and it was just easy for them to go ahead and give him the job.
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What Richmond did during this time when Doug Wilder was the governor, they scoured the earth and they found this young black progressive chief out in Pasadena, california, that was dealing with the problems that Richmond had, which were illegal guns.
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That was dealing with the problems that Richmond had, which were illegal guns, gangs and violent crime.
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That's what we had going on during that time.
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He was hired during the George Floyd protests and you know he's just not done the job that we needed to have done.
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And I can compare it to what happened when Doug Wilder was the governor Project Exile.
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If you got caught in the commission of a felony any felony and you had an illegal firearm, you automatically got five years in federal prison.
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Guess what happened to?
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Crime Went way down Right.
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Yeah, and nobody wants to commit it no more.
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But then you also got another issue when you have illegal immigration coming in and they're coming from a country that they don't want to be in no more because of the crime and because of all the cartels, and they're just poor.
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So they're coming to make a better life.
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They're trying to, but they're not doing it the right way by coming through the border the right way.
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But when they're coming through, they're also bringing the cartel with them because it's easier to get in.
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When they get here to the US, they don't care about committing crime, they're going to do it anyway.
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They're going to do it anyway.
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00:18:36.343
So I don't understand why both sides don't understand this and the safety of us and our children, on our children's children, because this is going to affect us for many, many years down the road.
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Well and I think a lot of it is that they want something to blame and they need a catalyst to blame him.
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So power hungry Democrats on the left side, they'll do anything to stay in power.
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They think that that gives them a larger voting block.
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They think that it gives them a fight against Republicans, that they can have this presence of the arbiters of what's good and what's not good, and they're the ones that you have to go to for help.
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So they should stay in power despite all these differences.
00:19:13.462 --> 00:19:18.530
And we talked about the debate this is one of the things that I think Donald Trump really missed out on in the last debate.
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He protecting his manhood in a series of about two or three questions that he missed a crucial moment that he could have really shined when they asked him are you going to deport everybody that came in illegally?
00:19:33.303 --> 00:19:40.483
And he was still word saladting you know just different things, that he was still trying to make a point from two questions back.
00:19:40.483 --> 00:19:52.775
What he should have said was I'm going to start with the illegal immigrants that came from Venezuela that are committing crimes in our streets right now.
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That's going to be my number one target the Venezuela street gangs y'all are out first, then I'm going to meet with my cabinet, I'm going to meet with border patrol and we're going to go down the list of the worst offenders and then, when we get to a certain point, then we can have a conversation about getting in the line, getting in the back of the line on a path to citizenship.
00:20:13.691 --> 00:20:19.086
And that would have been one of those questions that he could have really done well with, and it was a missed opportunity.
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Yeah, If they ask Kamala, I'm sure they're going to ask her laughing hyena that tonight and when you do this is all you're going to hear.
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She honestly does not know.
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I think it's going to be horrible.
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I mean, it's either going to go two ways, she's either going to do just enough.
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What I can guarantee is they will praise her If she doesn't do too bad.
00:20:44.464 --> 00:20:45.036
They're going to say that enough.
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What I can guarantee is they will praise her If she doesn't do too bad.
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They're going to say that it was the greatest performance ever and that she should be president.
00:20:51.101 --> 00:20:52.886
I mean,
look what we've looked at over the last month.
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No, they've already started making excuses on why she's not going to do well.
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They already started that days ago, so they're prepared for her not to do well.
00:21:03.806 --> 00:21:05.932
Well, I think they're prepared for her not to do it at all.
00:21:05.932 --> 00:21:09.931
I'll be surprised if we get to nine o'clock tonight and there is no debate.
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That would be horrible.
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Yeah For her.
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Well, and that's the thing is, she would bring it on president Trump's team and all the news outlets would go with it and people would believe it, whether or not it was true or not.
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That's the thing is.
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There's a lot of people on the left that cannot have a conversation with anybody that's conservative.
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They're afraid that.
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I think they deep down inside a lot of people know that trump's right but they're not going to admit it because they're afraid of change, they're afraid.
00:21:42.330 --> 00:21:45.890
They're afraid of saying you know what came out of someone else's mouth the same thing.
00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:47.405
They might accept it, right?
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:21:48.422 --> 00:21:51.605
Their hate for the man is so great.
00:21:51.906 --> 00:21:59.866
Yeah, look, personally, you think I'm going to hang out with Donald Trump and go play golf.
00:21:59.866 --> 00:22:00.449
I would like to.
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No, the man is a New Yorker's, he's just wired that way.
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Demands a multi-billionaire.
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I mean, you know, people may not like him for that.
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Even movie stars don't like him for that reason, other than their you know whatever other reasons, but he he's.
00:22:21.453 --> 00:22:23.943
He didn't get that way from being stupid.
00:22:23.943 --> 00:22:25.445
Now some, some people go well, he inherited.
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No, the man's done it, he's lost it, he's gained it.
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I mean, the man's not stupid.
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I just am not in favor of having another attorney run our country.
00:22:35.948 --> 00:22:38.875
I mean I'm sick of attorneys running our country.
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No offense to our friends that are attorneys here, but when you're running the country, I don't think it's a great idea.
00:22:45.165 --> 00:22:50.275
The ones that have been attorneys that have done it haven't been a fan of no matter what side they're on.
00:22:50.275 --> 00:22:51.339
Well, look at Ronald Reagan.
00:22:51.339 --> 00:23:03.227
Ronald Reagan was an actor, but when he was in office, I mean he wasn't 100% the best, but he was a good president.
00:23:03.227 --> 00:23:05.814
I mean, everybody's got their faults.
00:23:05.914 --> 00:23:16.210
Well, back then, like you said, left and right weren't that far from center, you could agree to disagree with a Democrat.
00:23:16.230 --> 00:23:36.080
I won't call him liberal a Democrat, because you guys at the end of the day say, well, it's not exactly how I see it, but I see your point but you know, back in the 80s and even 90s, if you ask, if you ask somebody, if you ask my granddaddy who you voted for, he'd punch you in the face and none of your damn business.
00:23:36.080 --> 00:23:41.565
Yeah, but now I mean hell, we know who you're voting for if you're driving a Subaru.
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Oh yeah, If you have an American flag, we know who you're voting for.
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If you're wearing a mask, we know who you're voting for.
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We got it.
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There was a guy sitting out in front of our office yesterday.
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He had Panic 2020 on his shirt and driving to sleep right now.
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Driving to sleep right now.
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I said, stereotypes exist for a reason.
00:24:02.714 --> 00:24:04.422
Chad had a Ronald Reagan shirt on.
00:24:04.422 --> 00:24:07.940
I was like hey, chad, he's like ooh, hang on.
00:24:07.940 --> 00:24:09.022
He walked outside.
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And getting back to Trump, I think Trump is a lot more connected to us peons in the workforce because, if you look at the business that he's been in, he employs a lot of servers, bellhops, housekeepers, people that you would consider on the lower spectrum of you know, not a lawyer, not a doctor, but they're getting paid.
00:24:32.893 --> 00:24:36.061
They get paid really well, but he works with those people.
00:24:36.061 --> 00:24:45.205
He works with a lot of guys that were in construction, that started swinging a hammer when they were young and they worked their way up to a position where they meet with the boss.
00:24:45.205 --> 00:24:58.242
And I can tell you from working with guys that are really wealthy in the construction business, a lot of them not all of them, but a lot of them are rednecks, man, they're people that I grew up, they're my people.
00:24:58.242 --> 00:25:11.528
Yep, you know they might have classed themselves up over the years, but they started out swinging a hammer and that's why I think that Trump is way more connected to the average voter than somebody like Kamala Harris.
00:25:11.548 --> 00:25:19.207
Yeah, I mean I was in construction for a while and I realized, no listen, I couldn't do that.
00:25:19.227 --> 00:25:19.627
the rest of my life.
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It's hard work.
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Yeah, yeah, it's hard work.
00:25:23.521 --> 00:25:33.922
But yeah, I worked for the fire department here locally for five, six years and learned a lot from them and you learn as a fireman here.
00:25:33.922 --> 00:25:36.326
You learn who supports you and who doesn't.
00:25:36.326 --> 00:25:39.301
You learn a little bit about politics too, don't you?
00:25:39.535 --> 00:25:47.287
Yeah, you learn a little bit about politics and you're just like, oh God and that's probably the number one reason why I got out is because of the politics.
00:25:47.287 --> 00:25:51.345
But Chief Hall has done a good job here in the county.
00:25:51.345 --> 00:25:55.869
I'm very impressed at how things have gone over the years.
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I think I don't know if he's going to be retiring anytime soon, but it's going to be um.
00:26:00.143 --> 00:26:08.838
It'll be soon, though I think from what I was told, he was going to be um building a couple more fire stations and then and then that's it.
00:26:08.858 --> 00:26:09.461
Yeah, that's it.
00:26:09.461 --> 00:26:11.746
Um, well, I mean, that's really important.
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You look at again we talked about it earlier local elections take, that's really important.
00:26:16.603 --> 00:26:20.651
You look at again we talked about it earlier local elections.
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Take somebody that you really like and support them.
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And with elections coming up, this is really important.
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If you have one candidate that you want to win and they're in a race with three choices, don't have to vote for all three because you're giving two votes away from the candidate that you want to see win.
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I told a lot of people this when Republicans got swept in the last city elections last year.
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It was a big deal, you know.
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We needed to gain a seat on city council.
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Neil Anderson was the closest vote getter.
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The other two Republicans were way far behind.
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So Democrats swept the three votes, with David Joyner getting the highest vote count and Kevin Spears getting the lowest.
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If Republicans had really put an effort behind just getting Neil Anderson reelected, then we would have kept a Republican on city council.
00:27:08.878 --> 00:27:14.781
Now city council, just like the rest of our city and county government, is majority of liberal Democrats.
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I mean, you look at our chief of police liberal.
00:27:18.459 --> 00:27:20.762
Our sheriff liberal.
00:27:20.762 --> 00:27:23.268
Our city manager liberal.
00:27:23.268 --> 00:27:30.336
Our county manager liberal, the majority of our city council and mayor liberal, the majority of our county commissioners liberal.
00:27:30.336 --> 00:27:41.030
We're run by liberals in this city and if you want to make a difference, then you need to promote a candidate or you need to run yourself and get people to support you.
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They need some dollars.
00:27:42.780 --> 00:27:47.986
Put a little bit of money in their campaign, even if it's just $20, that helps them buy another ad.
00:27:47.986 --> 00:27:50.282
It helps them buy a little bit more airtime.
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Local politics I can't stress it enough is really important and that also affects you guys' business.
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Absolutely, and you know what Are you going to run again, I will.
00:28:02.317 --> 00:28:06.344
I haven't decided when I didn't end my campaign properly.
00:28:06.344 --> 00:28:13.555
So they want me to pay, basically, a $500 penalty for every quarter since the first quarter of 2018.
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So over $10,000.
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And you know that's another thing that's wrong with the board of election.
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I ended my campaign, but I sent two pieces of paper at the same time, so they just ignored both pieces of paper because I didn't follow protocol, even though I ended the bank account.
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It doesn't matter.
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They want me to file for each of those quarters as if I was still a candidate and then pay that penalty.
00:28:39.115 --> 00:28:39.255
Wow.
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Well, if you run again, what do you think you'd be running for?
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I would run for NC House again.
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The way our system is in North Carolina, with city managers and county managers for all of our counties and cities throughout the state, there is a built-in government that doesn't change.
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:01.615
So you've got your city manager and your county manager.
00:29:01.615 --> 00:29:02.738
That does not go away.
00:29:02.738 --> 00:29:10.038
So the city council and the county commission has some power, but they really don't.
00:29:10.038 --> 00:29:11.442
They're basically just cheerleaders.
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They're needed, I mean, it keeps stressing the importance of voting local, but I think the best that I can do is to start off creating laws for North Carolina and the North Carolina General Assembly.
00:29:23.337 --> 00:29:24.440
Yeah, I think.
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I've reached out to Dane Scalise.
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We're going to try to have him on.
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I know he's doing.
00:29:31.883 --> 00:29:33.166
He's at an upcoming event.
00:29:33.166 --> 00:29:35.220
I just got a notification about that.
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We could pop in on.
00:29:37.236 --> 00:29:37.636
I found out.
00:29:37.636 --> 00:29:40.022
I also found out a little bit more about what Ben David's doing.
00:29:40.022 --> 00:29:46.461
Oh yeah, he's doing this Like getting that nonprofit money.
00:29:46.461 --> 00:29:49.644
Yeah, five million dollars is what he got, oh yeah.
00:29:50.335 --> 00:30:00.109
Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if last minute Governor Cooper especially if Mark wins
the election doesn't try to appoint him to a to a judgeship somewhere.
00:30:00.109 --> 00:30:13.508
Depending on who wins and then see court of appeals, cooper will have to nominate somebody to that position and you know, you can already tell with Cooper nominating the Democrat candidate against Jason.
00:30:13.914 --> 00:30:15.421
Yeah, I think that's kind of.
00:30:15.421 --> 00:30:16.423
I think that's kind of messed up.
00:30:16.423 --> 00:30:24.846
I think if you're going to nominate somebody, nominate somebody who's not running in either party in the coming-up election.
00:30:25.228 --> 00:30:25.909
Yeah, I agree with that.
00:30:25.909 --> 00:30:32.914
I mean it really shows partisanship and I hope the people out there watching North Carolina is unique, but not so unique.
00:30:32.914 --> 00:30:36.130
We vote typically to separate the powers.
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I mean, you look at many of the last elections with Cooper winning, with Josh Stein winning, and then the General Assembly winning and us gaining seats in the Supreme Court of North Carolina and the North Carolina Court of Appeals, gaining seats in the House and Senate on the federal side and then growing our footprint, you know, in our local General Assembly but for some reason Republican voters didn't vote for Dan Forrest in the last go and they didn't vote for a change in the Attorney General.
00:31:08.903 --> 00:31:09.895
But you know what I think?
00:31:09.895 --> 00:31:15.248
The reason why is because of COVID and Cooper had a lot of TV time.
00:31:15.955 --> 00:31:19.815
I can tell you Cooper is going to run for president in 2028.
00:31:19.815 --> 00:31:27.166
I can tell you unequivocally that he will run and that's one of the reasons why he took his name out of the vice president.
00:31:27.714 --> 00:31:31.817
I know he was in the running because the both Bidens came here recently, so it was already in the works to get Joe out.
00:31:31.817 --> 00:31:32.178
What was the?
00:31:32.198 --> 00:31:58.160
the both Bidens came here recently, so it was already in the works to get Joe out he didn't want to lose before he had an opportunity to run right now, even though he did nothing because the General Assembly pretty much neutered him for the whole end of his term with the veto power, with having the majority in the House and the Senate, he didn't want to look bad.
00:31:58.221 --> 00:32:04.663
His popularity is high for a lame duck Democrat governor, so he didn't mess anything up bad.
00:32:04.663 --> 00:32:16.432
I didn't like the job he did, but he didn't mess anything up so he can start campaigning after this election season and basically do what Ron DeSantis messed up.
00:32:16.432 --> 00:32:27.905
Ron DeSantis was perfectly set up to endorse Trump, not get into the race and then have two solid years after his governor term ended to be the next president.
00:32:27.905 --> 00:32:31.938
Governor Cooper is going to do that for the next four years.
00:32:31.938 --> 00:32:39.902
That's why he went up for his re-election bids on this term that he's serving now and did his launch in New York at a fundraiser.
00:32:39.902 --> 00:32:41.903
Because he gets national money.
00:32:41.903 --> 00:32:50.306
I think that he's going to be their choice candidate come 2028.
00:32:53.349 --> 00:32:56.402
It was awesome, we were already 33 minutes in.
00:32:56.402 --> 00:33:01.443
Man, we're, we're going uh, I don't mind to keep going, you mind to keep going?
00:33:01.443 --> 00:33:02.265
No, we can.
00:33:02.265 --> 00:33:06.961
All right, we'll go for a little bit more um, so a hundred.
00:33:06.961 --> 00:33:07.340
What do you?
00:33:07.340 --> 00:33:07.701
Um?
00:33:07.701 --> 00:33:16.564
To me, a big, a big thing to me is because I concern to me is I'm a hunter and chad likes to fish.
00:33:16.564 --> 00:33:18.556
We're both the hunter and fisherman, all right.
00:33:18.556 --> 00:33:22.903
So I spent a lot of time out on the water.
00:33:23.786 --> 00:33:40.142
So the last uh I ran for uh water conservations um years ago it's hard to run against a guy whose last name is tied to water yeah, I know right, but I did pretty good for not for not hardly doing like any.
00:33:40.301 --> 00:33:48.204
I went and spoke at a few places and and got my name and I came in like a third and only lost by like 50 votes.
00:33:48.204 --> 00:33:50.028
Yep, which is which was awesome.
00:33:50.028 --> 00:33:55.165
You know, that was just kind of I said, you know, if I didn't win it, it would be just a learning experience.
00:33:55.165 --> 00:34:05.855
It was pretty fun.
00:34:05.855 --> 00:34:06.977
But my concern is keeping our waters clean.
00:34:06.977 --> 00:34:12.802
I hate that the governor whoever the governor appointed for fish and wildlife yeah.
00:34:12.842 --> 00:34:16.144
Can we get an answer on why there's no flounder season?
00:34:16.344 --> 00:34:17.786
Yeah, I think that's pretty big.
00:34:17.786 --> 00:34:19.927
They gave us a couple, but you get one a year.
00:34:20.288 --> 00:34:21.048
No, there's none.
00:34:21.048 --> 00:34:21.969
This year Zero.
00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:26.501
There's a couple surprise weekends or days you can go hunt flounder.
00:34:26.501 --> 00:34:28.376
Today there's some inland not in the ocean.
00:34:28.856 --> 00:34:30.260
You could get them in the Cape Fear River.
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.425
So you can go to Virginia or South Carolina and catch a buttload.
00:34:34.425 --> 00:34:36.849
But North Carolina we got plenty of flounder.
00:34:36.849 --> 00:34:44.106
You can walk and see them everywhere and I love going out, I saw them this past weekend.
00:34:49.594 --> 00:34:51.498
Yeah, I love going out and catching fish and bringing it home and feeding my family.
00:34:51.498 --> 00:34:55.748
It's because we have a liberal, far-left liberal governor and and far left liberal attorney general.
00:34:55.748 --> 00:35:00.101
And flounder's delicious Grouper is delicious.
00:35:00.101 -->
00:35:05.784
So if conservatives like it and they like to hunt and fish, they're like got to get rid of it.
00:35:05.784 --> 00:35:16.059
I'm convinced, I'm convinced, that they only got rid of flounder season because people enjoy flounder, yeah, and then you know I want to keep the waters clean.
00:35:16.940 --> 00:35:23.371
You know, keep people, you know, from messing up the islands pretty much and waterways.
00:35:23.914 --> 00:35:31.523
I think that's a huge misconception with Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans don't care about the air quality and the water.
00:35:31.523 --> 00:35:32.864
Air quality and the water.
00:35:32.864 --> 00:35:41.992
We want less regulation because it's over-regulated and is not doing a job that helps anything with the environment.
00:35:41.992 --> 00:35:46.626
I'm not a climate denier, but I don't believe in climate change.
00:35:46.626 --> 00:35:52.907
I don't believe that humans in the last 150 years since the industrial revolution.
00:35:53.369 --> 00:35:55.280
we did not cause the damage.
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.121
That's done and the climate has been changing since day one.
00:35:59.121 --> 00:36:08.949
Well, the climate radicals do not look at how much sulfur and carbon is put in the air when there's volcanic activity.
00:36:08.949 --> 00:36:11.920
I mean, you look at, iceland right now is active.
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:26.157
Just a little over a year ago there was that huge eruption off of Africa that put an ungodly amount of carbon in the air and I just don't believe that humans are the cause.
00:36:26.157 --> 00:36:31.918
Like I said, in the last 150 years since the Industrial Revolution, we didn't cause all this damage.
00:36:31.918 --> 00:36:34.242
The earth naturally does this.
00:36:34.242 --> 00:36:38.329
The earth naturally got too hot and then there was an ice age.
00:36:38.329 --> 00:36:42.775
I'd love to learn a little bit more and find out about how that happened.
00:36:42.775 --> 00:36:51.534
I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I love the reels that come up talking about the Anunnaki and the pyramids and all this advanced civilization.
00:36:51.715 --> 00:36:59.601
Actually, Joe Rogan had two great climatologists that were on his show that were at both ends, and you have to go back and look.
00:36:59.601 --> 00:37:02.043
It's been a couple of years that he had those guys on.
00:37:02.043 --> 00:37:10.643
They were within a short period of time of each other and they're really interesting to listen to and you might get some information from that.
00:37:10.643 --> 00:37:12.086
But I would check those out.
00:37:12.574 --> 00:37:16.663
Well, I mean, podcasts are a great source for learning about things that you didn't already know about.
00:37:16.663 --> 00:37:32.255
I mean that's why you guys have already had such a huge success and the amount of people that are that are listening to your off the hook podcast because they are tired of hearing the regular talking heads that,
uh, that are not even in the business.
00:37:32.416 --> 00:37:45.949
Right, they're making regulations, yeah, but we're the actual feet on the ground, we're the ones who are doing it and we're the ones who are pushing for safety and everything that comes with it.
00:37:46.168 --> 00:37:48.014
Yeah, it's not just the glory.
00:37:48.014 --> 00:37:51.782
You think of the bondsman, the bounty hunter, whatever you want to say.
00:37:51.782 --> 00:37:52.625
Go and get them.
00:37:52.625 --> 00:37:53.967
We tell those stories.
00:37:53.967 --> 00:38:01.009
They're interesting, but there's other sides to this that you know is not so fun and it's stressful.
00:38:01.009 --> 00:38:04.445
So you know, we let you know both sides.
00:38:04.735 --> 00:38:07.164
I mean getting bail calls at 2 o'clock in the morning.
00:38:07.454 --> 00:38:09.483
Yeah, those are hard to take, dude.
00:38:10.396 --> 00:38:14.621
I've got to call another night for 3 o'clock and if calls don't go to me, they go to Chad.
00:38:14.641 --> 00:38:15.182
They go to me.
00:38:15.324 --> 00:38:19.340
They go to Chad and I got to call at three o'clock in the morning and I was like what?
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.572
And usually the person calling is drunk too.
00:38:23.934 --> 00:38:24.094
Yeah.
00:38:24.836 --> 00:38:28.503
And it was a girlfriend of the guy and she's like, yeah, we're just down here on vacation.
00:38:28.503 --> 00:38:29.760
He got arrested for no reason.
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:38.958
I was like, ok, okay, what time is it?
00:38:38.958 --> 00:38:39.360
It's three o'clock.
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:40.101
I'm like when did he get arrested?
00:38:40.101 --> 00:38:40.644
Uh, not quite an hour ago.
00:38:40.644 --> 00:38:43.275
I'm like he hasn't been booked in and you got shift change, so call me back about eight o'clock.
00:38:43.275 --> 00:38:46.121
Well, you said yes, 20, everything says it's 24 hours.
00:38:46.121 --> 00:38:47.525
Nobody's answer phone except you.
00:38:47.525 --> 00:38:49.403
And you're telling me you gotta wait till I have to shift.
00:38:49.403 --> 00:38:51.375
And I'm like, look, man, this is the way it works.
00:38:51.375 --> 00:38:52.617
If you don't like it, lump it.
00:38:52.617 --> 00:38:54.422
And then she kept going, kept doing it.
00:38:54.422 --> 00:38:55.304
Finally, I just hung up on her.
00:38:55.304 --> 00:38:56.186
I was like I ain't doing this.
00:38:56.655 --> 00:39:01.807
Well, and if you need to get bailed out, it's because you probably don't have much of a connection to the community.
00:39:01.807 --> 00:39:08.286
You know there's no viable assets to your name that they can't ROR you.
00:39:08.286 --> 00:39:13.041
So you guys are taking a gamble with almost every single person that you pull out.
00:39:13.081 --> 00:39:14.481
How do you filter with almost every single person that you pull out?
00:39:14.481 --> 00:39:15.744
It's a calculated risk.
00:39:15.744 --> 00:39:18.708
Is what we do each time we have to interview a person.
00:39:18.708 --> 00:39:27.980
Within a few seconds, determine if we're going to spend a lot of money basically write a big check for that person to be released.
00:39:28.240 --> 00:39:43.362
And sometimes they get over on the court system and they get over on us and that's why we have to go all the places like you see up there on our dime and not the taxpayer's dime, Right, but they're trying, you know, like where Cooper and Josh Stein.
00:39:43.362 --> 00:39:52.626
They want to go more to a taxpayer funded system through pretrial, so it comes out of your pocket and not the bondsman.
00:39:53.255 --> 00:39:54.117
And then they can.
00:39:54.117 --> 00:40:01.541
Then the person who committed the crime can go to the next state over and they're not going to go after them and they go there and do the same.
00:40:01.541 --> 00:40:07.222
They can do the same thing, commit the same crime and and hurt another victim.
00:40:07.222 --> 00:40:17.800
And that's another thing I was wanting to get into was when you know we keep talking about the consequences for these, for the criminals, but what about the victim?
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.306
And how many times do they get screwed over?
00:40:21.297 --> 00:40:25.275
You're a small business owner, right Hunter, and I talked about this last night.
00:40:25.275 --> 00:40:27.422
Actually, I explained.
00:40:27.422 --> 00:40:38.927
You remember, when we went to Little Washington with Michelle and a bunch of other bondsmen, that was the first pretrial program that was being introduced.
00:40:38.927 --> 00:40:49.010
Yep, I believe that's that would say so that that lady from UNC, chapel Hill who teaches bail reform in her class, mr Jessica Smith, if you're listening, take notes.
00:40:49.010 --> 00:40:57.570
We were there in the back, we weren't really invited, but we sat there and we were behind judges, magistrates that were listening.
00:40:57.771 --> 00:41:00.302
And the Department of Insurance was there too.
00:41:00.715 --> 00:41:09.567
Well, yeah, mr Cable was there in front of us and this lady was teaching how to implement the new bail reform.
00:41:09.929 --> 00:41:10.574
And the magistrates.
00:41:10.574 --> 00:41:12.282
You could see them shaking their heads.
00:41:12.414 --> 00:41:15.420
They were like this ain't going to work, but they had to do it.
00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:19.545
So what happens is they couldn't win it on a state level.
00:41:19.545 --> 00:41:27.199
They had to approach in districts, and so this lady went out, she spoke to them on how they were going to start it and it sounds good.
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:33.878
We're going to fund you all this money, and this is all money that's given to these areas for these programs and money that's given to these areas for these programs.
00:41:33.878 --> 00:41:38.103
And you know, like you said, you see the judges shaking their heads.
00:41:38.103 --> 00:41:42.547
They're like I see these people over and over and it doesn't work this way.
00:41:42.547
--> 00:41:44.288
You know, they know how it works.
00:41:44.608 --> 00:41:58.119
So it's going to force these magistrates to retirement early retirement because they don't want to deal with it, because they know Well, like here in New Hanover County, we lost three really good magistrates and then I know that two of them were replaced.
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.121
I had one of them when I went to go to a bond.
00:42:01.121 --> 00:42:04.605
It was a lady who had a $25,000 bond.
00:42:04.605 --> 00:42:07.286
I just met this magistrate for the first time.
00:42:07.286 --> 00:42:09.447
I think they moved from Maryland down here.
00:42:09.447 --> 00:42:13.971
No offense to Maryland, but I'm sure they treat things differently there.
00:42:13.971 --> 00:42:20.023
This person, this lady, this is her third DWI within a year.
00:42:20.023 --> 00:42:23.478
She's obviously not getting the message to not drink and drive.
00:42:23.478 --> 00:42:25.400
And there was a child in the car.
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.215
Bond was only $25,000.
00:42:28.215 --> 00:42:32.655
I came up, got the paperwork, slid it through there and he looked at it.
00:42:32.655 --> 00:42:34.121
He goes oh yeah, I remember this.
00:42:34.121 --> 00:42:35.902
Me and the other magist manager were talking about this.
00:42:35.902 --> 00:42:37.260
We thought it was set too high.
00:42:37.260 --> 00:42:40.204
I said too high Really.
00:42:44.101 --> 00:42:50.561
Third DWI with a child in a car now, right, and I said really, I said this is, you know, explain.
00:42:50.561 --> 00:42:54.177
You know he goes, yeah, but this isn't meant for punishment, no, but this isn't meant for punishment.
00:42:54.177 --> 00:42:59.541
No, but it's a deterrent and apparently she's not getting what's going on here, Right?
00:42:59.541 --> 00:43:11.271
So you know, if you're facing that, if you're facing three DDUIs, child endangerment, your chances of going to jail for a while are very strong.
00:43:11.271 --> 00:43:14.813
It starts at two.
00:43:14.813 --> 00:43:16.840
So, you know, do you really want to?
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:31.686
I mean, she's not tied to the area, Right, cause I remember we did her bond, you know, but I thought that it was actually kind of low for what she was facing, and so I know that she, she wasn't really tied to this area.
00:43:31.686 --> 00:43:33.876
But again, we take that on.
00:43:33.876 --> 00:43:36.920
If we can't, you know, we have to deal with it.
00:43:36.940 --> 00:43:39.322
If she misses, messes up, guess who's going to go get her?
00:43:39.322 --> 00:43:42.867
We do you know, yeah, we do, and it's on our pocket.
00:43:43.728 --> 00:43:46.190
Up there, all the places we've been on our dime.
00:43:46.190 --> 00:43:53.523
I'm going to take that map down one day Maybe we should put the map back here and we can point to each one when we tell a story.
00:43:53.563 --> 00:43:54.824
Those are a lot of pegs too.
00:43:54.885 --> 00:43:55.987
And those are not all the pegs.
00:43:58.556 --> 00:44:02.440
Texas, California, New Mexico it's a big list.
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:06.244
Well, and y'all's small business and other small businesses.
00:44:06.264 --> 00:44:06.865
Yeah, we're just one.
00:44:07.956 --> 00:44:08.898
With my surf shop.
00:44:08.898 --> 00:44:18.699
Many times I was stolen from and I had to go to court as a witness only to find out that the case had been settled, that they had taken some kind of plea.
00:44:18.699 --> 00:44:20.362
I never got made whole.
00:44:20.362 --> 00:44:24.581
I never got compensated for my loss, so you just had to suck it up.
00:44:24.581 --> 00:44:28.324
Basically, I had to take a day off, pay an employee to be there.
00:44:28.324 --> 00:44:34.498
I'm not crazy about the way the system's run, but right now it's the best system that we have.
00:44:34.498 --> 00:44:36.699
I'm not crazy about the way the system's run, but right now it's the best system that we have With bail.
00:44:36.699 --> 00:44:42.842
I think that's the most appropriate way, because you guys get to do things that police officers can't do.
00:44:42.842 --> 00:44:50.307
You can go in certain situations and recover a fugitive where police officers can't do that.
00:44:50.568 --> 00:44:50.809
Right.
00:44:51.329 --> 00:44:52.590
Hey, got a question for you.
00:44:52.590 --> 00:44:55.452
Do you have a bottle of his here?
00:44:56.431 --> 00:44:57.813
No, not here anymore.
00:44:57.813 --> 00:44:59.373
No, you're talking about the North Carolina bottle.
00:44:59.373 --> 00:45:00.295
Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.867
So Mr Ford here has a great distillery.
00:45:05.867 --> 00:45:08.384
I'm quite proud of you, Hunter.
00:45:08.403 --> 00:45:09.289
Smart move.
00:45:09.289 --> 00:45:14.860
You did a good job With the bottle, so if you go into your local ABC store here in North Carolina.
00:45:15.541 --> 00:45:16.782
Are you outside North Carolina also?
00:45:16.782 --> 00:45:17.963
Just North Carolina right now.
00:45:17.963 --> 00:45:19.885
Just North Carolina, so just North Carolina.
00:45:19.885 --> 00:45:31.639
If you go in and it's a vodka bottle and it's in the shape of North Carolina, it's trademarked so you can't take it, so it's shaped as a state of North Carolina.
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.199
It's actually not bad vodka.
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:37.483
I'm not a vodka or tequila guy, but I drink it every now and again.
00:45:37.483 --> 00:45:48.552
But it's really good and it's a cool bottle, especially having it sitting on a shelf somewhere, and I think we did a Mark Robinson deal at.
00:45:48.692 --> 00:45:49.432
York, we had it etched.
00:45:49.432 --> 00:45:54.039
Yeah, yeah, you had it etched with his signature and yeah, that was really cool.
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.041
Yes, man.
00:45:56.322 --> 00:45:58.784
You guys brought them to Brentmo Creek when I owned Brentmo Creek.
00:45:58.784 --> 00:46:01.628
Yeah and yeah.
00:46:01.628 --> 00:46:04.851
But it's what kicked off
his Lieutenant governor campaign.
00:46:04.851 --> 00:46:16.525
And at the time I was working with the big talker, conservative talk radio, here in Wilmington, and I talked to the guys at the station after he spoke and I said you know this guy, mark, he's going to be our next lieutenant governor.
00:46:16.525 --> 00:46:21.460
And they were like no, no, no, it's not him, the field's too crowded, he doesn't stand out.
00:46:21.460 --> 00:46:26.626
He won handedly in the primary and then he won well in the general election.
00:46:27.295 --> 00:46:30.184
And I mean he's up against a much tougher candidate than Josh Stein.
00:46:30.244 --> 00:46:32.481
It's so funny he stayed at my house that night.
00:46:32.481 --> 00:46:37.697
So funny he stayed at my house that day.
00:46:37.697 --> 00:46:41.668
Uh, it's from seeing him going from that to being running for governor and having you know his security detail around him.
00:46:41.668 --> 00:46:42.672
It's, it's.
00:46:43.436 --> 00:46:54.065
He lost a lot of weight too yeah, he was a big guy, but, um, the important thing about that is he got out of the business that he was in and ran to make a difference.
00:46:54.065 --> 00:46:55.807
He wasn't a career politician.
00:46:55.807 --> 00:47:02.648
Right and that's what I was saying earlier was more people should get involved in their government somehow.
00:47:02.648 --> 00:47:04.902
You ran for soil, water and soil.
00:47:04.902 --> 00:47:06.561
I ran for NC House.
00:47:06.561 --> 00:47:08.702
Chad's up next, so he has to run for something.
00:47:09.998 --> 00:47:12.746
I was on the board for the North Carolina Bail Association.
00:47:12.746 --> 00:47:14.628
I mean that's a big deal.
00:47:14.648 --> 00:47:17.510
Yeah board for the North Carolina Bail Association.
00:47:17.510 --> 00:47:21.353
I mean that's a big deal and we see talking and listening to this podcast how important bail is.
00:47:21.353 --> 00:47:35.159
These radical ideas of letting a violent offender or letting a career criminal continue to get released to jail recommit the same crimes.
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:39.481
It's not like they get real clever and go out and learn how to do something different.
00:47:39.481 --> 00:47:40.914
A thief is a thief.
00:47:40.914 --> 00:47:43.016
An arson is an arson.
00:47:43.016 --> 00:47:44.996
You know they're going to recidivate.
00:47:44.996 --> 00:47:48.621
The recidivism rate for those types of crimes is really high.
00:47:49.489 --> 00:47:50.601
Well, I tell you what.
00:47:50.601 --> 00:47:51.409
Go ahead, Jed.
00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:58.581
No, I was going to say I wanted to read real quick that this was just in our local news just last night.
00:47:58.581 --> 00:48:07.039
I was scrolling, came across it here in Wilmington Two people have been charged after hitting multiple vehicles downtown Wilmington, according to Wilmington Police Department.
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:14.820
Police observed a vehicle crashed into a moped Saturday around 1045 pm,
an area of 23 Market Street.
00:48:14.820 --> 00:48:15.641
That's downtown.
00:48:15.983 --> 00:48:19.458
Right right Police attempted to approach the vehicle, but it took off.
00:48:19.458 --> 00:48:24.141
The car was later seen down South 3rd Street at a fast rate of speed.
00:48:24.141 --> 00:48:34.239
The driver, adalia Lopez Navia, 20-year-old it doesn't say, but I don't know if she's local or not.
00:48:35.431 --> 00:48:36.072
I would you know.
00:48:36.072 --> 00:48:41.563
There's a high probability 50-50 these days, probably higher that she's an illegal immigrant?
00:48:42.014 --> 00:48:43.289
There's that possibility.
00:48:43.289 --> 00:48:53.144
And then Mr Juarez Delgado that's another name that I haven't heard here locally crashed into two cars before trying to run away.
00:48:53.144 --> 00:48:58.077
At least two occupants of the vehicle were hit and taken to the hospital by EMS.
00:48:58.077 --> 00:49:04.878
Nevaeh and Delgado were eventually stopped by the police, arrested, transported back to the Wilmington PD.
00:49:04.878 --> 00:49:15.353
Both are facing several charges, including misdemeanor hit and run, felony hit and run, felony flee to elude arrest, dwi and driving after consuming under 21.
00:49:15.353 --> 00:49:19.237
Both received unsecured bonds.
00:49:19.237 --> 00:49:22.880
Now, now that's the part that should gripe you.
00:49:24.351 --> 00:49:26.097
And they probably don't have insurance.
00:49:27.380 --> 00:49:31.099
No, no, that's probably not.
00:49:31.530 --> 00:49:33.097
Did it say driving without a license?
00:49:33.230 --> 00:49:41.835
I mean that usually is one of those things Usually that goes along with it Did not say they might have willingly omitted that this is WECT.
00:49:42.532 --> 00:49:48.280
So there's that I mean that's a big deal with our news is they do leave out important details.
00:49:48.280 --> 00:50:00.929
It is important to us right before an election to know if these people that caused this crash and ruined a bunch of vehicles not only could they possibly—?
00:50:00.929 --> 00:50:01.929
Two people went to the hospital also.
00:50:02.389 --> 00:50:03.456
Two people went to the hospital.
00:50:03.456 --> 00:50:07.181
They were not over 21, so they were drinking illegally.
00:50:07.181 --> 00:50:13.494
They could possibly be without insurance, without a license, and they could possibly be illegal immigrants.
00:50:14.016 --> 00:50:14.518
Hit and run.
00:50:14.518 --> 00:50:19.793
They had two felonies, two cars hit, two people went to the hospital unsecured bond.
00:50:19.793 --> 00:50:21.637
So unsecured now I'm not.
00:50:21.637 --> 00:50:32.284
I'm not saying everybody's got to get a secured bond, but when you jump into the realm of felonies we think maybe these folks aren't local.
00:50:32.284 --> 00:50:36.097
They already showed you that they're not afraid to run.
00:50:36.097 --> 00:50:43.298
Okay, it's in the charges, so, like you should have something tying them.
00:50:43.298 --> 00:50:46.755
Well, that's all I'm saying.
00:50:46.755 --> 00:50:49.556
It doesn't have to be huge, but something tying them.
00:50:49.730 --> 00:50:56.143
And the only way for us to change this is to let the right people to get this mess out of our system.
00:50:57.771 --> 00:50:59.597
Now I wonder if that went before.
00:50:59.597 --> 00:51:03.148
A magistrate or a district attorney did that?
00:51:03.327 --> 00:51:04.855
No, no, no, that's a magistrate.
00:51:04.855 --> 00:51:10.989
They'll get their first appearance and that first appearance the ADA will stand up and say hey, they need a secured bond.
00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:12.597
This was posted last night.
00:51:12.597 --> 00:51:13.775
They could have gone to court.
00:51:13.775 --> 00:51:14.994
A judge could have done that.
00:51:15.476 --> 00:51:15.818
I don't know.
00:51:17.293 --> 00:51:22.797
That's something we need to look into Well yeah, you don't have to assume that it's a magistrate.
00:51:22.797 --> 00:51:25.777
We think it might have been, but they had already gone to court.
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.362
Yeah, who knows?
00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:35.769
Well, and, I think, another problem with the way that our society is running now and the way that politics have overwhelmed absolutely everything.
00:51:35.769 --> 00:51:47.338
If you even question somebody's legal status now, you're condemned and you're called a racist, and that's not the case.
00:51:47.338 --> 00:51:53.882
You know, we don't want to see illegal immigrants committing crimes in our backyard, in our neighborhoods.
00:51:53.882 --> 00:51:56.115
I have children in our neighborhoods.
00:51:56.115 --> 00:51:57.001
I have children.
00:51:57.001 --> 00:52:03.177
That kind of reckless behavior in a vehicle can injure or kill my wife and kids while they're out on the road.
00:52:03.177 --> 00:52:06.516
So these aren't victimless crimes.
00:52:06.516 --> 00:52:12.476
Right now we see how many victims there are Two people in the hospital multiple cars Right right.
00:52:12.791 --> 00:52:16.396
This is just our little tiny speck on the map.
00:52:16.396 --> 00:52:23.898
You turn on the news and you hear about it and all these other places you just heard about it, but how many times is this happening throughout the US?
00:52:23.898 --> 00:52:24.599
That's my point.
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.862
It's like we're just a speck in all the other stories of yesterday.
00:52:28.862 --> 00:52:30.996
You just okay yesterday's news.
00:52:30.996 --> 00:52:32.110
What was it?
00:52:32.110 --> 00:52:34.338
The Hondurans that are up in Ohio.
00:52:34.338 --> 00:52:35.300
Yeah, that story.
00:52:35.300 --> 00:52:37.994
You hear about them Taking over apartment complexes.
00:52:38.014 --> 00:52:38.797
No, no, no, that's in.
00:52:38.836 --> 00:52:39.577
Colorado, that's in.
00:52:39.577 --> 00:52:40.440
Colorado, that's in.
00:52:40.460 --> 00:52:43.664
Colorado, and that is Venezuelans, the Hondurans.
00:52:43.664 --> 00:52:48.507
See, it's
not just people think people come across the border as all Mexican people.
00:52:48.507 --> 00:52:48.927
It's not.
00:52:48.927 --> 00:52:52.110
There are several other countries of people coming through.
00:52:52.411 --> 00:52:54.378
I can tell you Mexicans don't want to leave Mexico.
00:52:54.378 --> 00:52:59.190
Mexico is busting right now.
00:52:59.190 --> 00:53:01.456
Their economy is doing really well Right down deep in the Yucatan.
00:53:01.456 --> 00:53:05.972
Mexico has realized it's really expensive to get through the Panama Canal.
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There's a lot of ships that are coming through that it's too expensive to go on rail from San Diego or LA or any of those West Coast ports and train it across the country, or LA or any of those West Coast ports and train it across the country.
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They're working on a huge operation to be able to unload cargo ships, train them in that short distance to the Gulf of Mexico, reload them on cargo ships, save the huge expense of going through the Panama Canal, speed up transportation.
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And they're getting it it right.
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They're spending billions upon billions of dollars to put in this airport, in these two terminals, and it's a game changer.
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So mexicans don't want to leave mexico.
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There might be some poor migrant workers that come, but our problems right now are south americans.
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They're people that are coming from Sudan.
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They're people that are coming from Venezuela.
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The Philippines, china I mean all over the world they're coming through the border.
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Oh, it's porous and the numbers have only slowed down a little bit because now what they're doing is they're giving them an app.
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So if you register on the app, you come through at the point of entry that you're told to come through, and people that come through the point of entry are not counted as illegal immigrants.
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They're counted in the regular immigration process.
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These areas and this part of the border security, our transportation secretary, our president, our vice president, these are people that are allowing these policies to happen because they know that when it comes to election time, like right now with a debate like tonight, that these are questions that they don't want to answer.
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They don't want that number to be 20 million people or 30 million people.
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They want to hide that number as much as they can, and that's why they do those apps and give you a time and a date to show up at a port of entry.
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Well, look, we're at 55 minutes already.
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Usually we try to keep it
around 30 minutes, but now with Hunter here, we can go on and on all day with Hunter.
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Hunter's a bright and brilliant young man.
00:55:28.918 --> 00:55:30.420
Still Young man still.
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I'm getting there.
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I'm getting there.
00:55:34.311 --> 00:55:37.956
My daughter asked me the other day what color my hair was, and I said dirty gray.
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Yeah right, hers is dirty blonde, mine's dirty gray.
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Man, I tell you what, if I don't shave and I let my hair grow out, after about four or five days my son picks on me.
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He goes Dad, I can see your cul-de-sac.
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I'm like I know, and all the hair around here is solid gray.
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So I'm like, oh God, I got to shave.
00:55:59.961 --> 00:56:01.371
But I appreciate it, me and Chad both.
00:56:01.371 --> 00:56:02.717
Thank you very much for coming on.
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We look forward to seeing what happens to you in the future and you at home.
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If you ever get to Wilmington, north Carolina, stop by the Cotton Exchange at Momentum.
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Distillery, 318 Nutt Street on the back of the Cotton Exchange.
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It's a pleasure to have you come taste some different spirits.
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Thanks a bunch.
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I've been listening to the podcast.
00:56:25.715 --> 00:56:26.358
I'm a fan.
00:56:26.358 --> 00:56:29.239
It's an awesome opportunity to be on it.
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I always look forward to the upcoming guests, but it's really important.
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Watch the debate tonight.
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Make sure you get out to vote.
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If you're Republican, don't wait until Election Day.
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And you don't have to wait until the next day after.
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And you don't have to tell nobody who you voted for.
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:54.902
If you're scared or worried about somebody not liking you, look, I don't give a damn.
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I would love for you to vote for Trump.
00:56:57.052 --> 00:57:03.043
I would love for you to vote for Trump, okay, and I'd love for you to vote, you know, on policies, not just because you hate somebody.
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Think about it.
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Really, think about it.
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Don't think about who you think is better or you don't like them based on their personality.
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That's not going to do anything for your refrigerator, your gas tank, your bank account, your safety.
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Think about it.
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That's all we're saying Thank you, Hunter.
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Go to the grocery store and go shopping before you go vote.
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Eggs are back up.
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Go to the grocery store.
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Go buy your groceries.
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Go spend $1,000 at the grocery store and then go vote.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And then after the vote, if it goes the way we want it, then go back to the grocery store and go ah, thank God, give it a buy six plus five.
00:57:45.224 --> 00:57:47.717
Hunter, appreciate you coming, buddy.
00:57:47.717 --> 00:57:48.182
Thank you guys.
00:57:48.182 --> 00:57:48.769
Thank you very much.
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Thanks, brother.
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