บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Interview with Jason Nelson: Finding Your Fit - Body Image, Biological Age, and GLP-1

really matter. 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:53.600 So, yes, you might have some self-doubt and some poor self-perception, but don't let that be the determinant factor in how you perform or do anything that you want to do. 00:06:54.079 --> 00:07:03.040 So, what flipped that switch for you then when you saw yourself in front of people being that good soccer player? 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:16.160 And and and you you were out there on the field, you felt small, and then later on you said that you know you you felt differently about yourself and your game, and that confidence came along. 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:18.160 Where did that confidence come from? 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:20.800 That came from getting bigger and stronger. 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:21.600 Hmm. 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:22.079 Okay. 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:37.920 It came from understanding that the fight that was within, like this small dog, this this big dog inside of the small frame, actually, you know, people can actually seem like, okay, he's he is something. 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:39.439 Don't mess with him. 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.680 Yeah, don't mess with him, he's something. 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:53.360 And after I would say I missed a couple big opportunities to play at a higher level, and I realized, well, there's nothing to lose. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:54.959 Why not? 00:07:55.519 --> 00:08:07.360 If I had someone like myself or someone like you to guide me and coach me through those earlier years, it would have been a totally different outcome. 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.519 And I, oh, this is this is getting me emotional now, man. 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:12.879 Um that's good. 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:16.000 Uh I I want you to feel this moment. 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:28.319 Uh I when I coach younger athletes, I try to be that person. 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:40.080 Not only while we're doing the gym, but a lot of the dumb time between the exercises or the thing that we're doing is spent on upgrading their mindset, building them up. 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:42.960 Because I I didn't have anybody building me up. 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:48.879 You see, being the last of eight, the my next sibling, there was a seven-year gap. 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:50.000 Oh, wow. 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:50.480 Okay. 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:54.080 So there wasn't anybody who was next to me. 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:56.080 That makes sense. 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:56.639 Right. 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:03.519 In a family that large, when you're seven years behind, everybody's moving on to doing their own thing. 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.600 And the first boy, the first kid was he was a boy. 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.279 He was already out of the house. 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:10.320 Yeah, he was gone. 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:11.120 Yeah, at that point. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:11.840 Right? 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:21.440 And then my middle brother, my other brother, he's the one that got me into sports and coached me up and you know, when I was little. 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:28.879 But by the time he started going back to school and girls came into the picture, I was left all by myself. 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:29.600 Right. 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:30.240 Right. 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:37.519 So there was nobody to actually get into my head and and really ground me and say, listen, man, like and build me up. 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:37.840 Okay. 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:45.759 To be, you know, I'm kind of lost for words right now because um, you know, when you get emotional, the rational side of you goes down. 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:47.039 I totally get it. 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:48.159 I totally understand. 00:09:48.240 --> 00:10:01.840 And um, you know, but I appreciate that side of you too as well, because it lets people know, first of all, that we as men, it's okay for us to be emotional, especially when you think about where you came from. 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:18.080 But I love the fact that you begin to talk to the audience about, you know, I hope that's not you out there feeling small because you have no reason to feel small, even if you look small to other people. 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:21.200 Uh it's about the giant within, right? 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:26.240 I I you know, I think that um, you know, Tony Robbins talked about that some years ago. 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.320 I think it's one of his first books, you know, talking about the giant within. 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.759 Uh, and and everybody has that giant within them. 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.039 It's just that they need that coach to pull it out. 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:44.000 They need that person in their lives to understand that, hey, you got something in you, and I'm going to push you. 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:53.440 At some point, uh, did you feel like you couldn't achieve what you were on the road to achieving? 00:10:53.519 --> 00:11:03.519 And when you begin to become more confident, was there something, was there a roadblock, I want to put it like that, that got in your way that slowed you down? 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.159 What was that roadblock if there was one? 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.120 Man, there were several roadblocks. 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.399 Um there were several. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.440 I could tell you in particular. 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:19.840 Well, you know, more recent coming to the states. 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:25.120 And, you know, this is the talking real talk here, right? 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:34.559 Right being a black man entering corporate, being from the Caribbean, having a different accent. 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:35.279 Yes. 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:45.759 I remember this one time was one time I was in the I was in the gym, and my manager brought brought me this client. 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.240 She was very fit. 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:58.240 In fact, she was a competitive skier, almost representing her country at a national level. 00:11:58.720

--> 00:11:59.039 Okay. 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:07.840 And I was the only train on staff he trusted to work with an athlete of that caliber. 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.799 And he said, Hey, I have the perfect guy for you. 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.600 She sat down with me at 2 p.m. 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:16.320 in the day. 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:18.240 I'll never forget this. 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:27.120 And um she we did the the thing, the orientation, filled out the paperwork. 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.360 And then she said to me, She's like, Well, I can't come in at 2 p.m. 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.559 I said, Well, we're here at 2 p.m. 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:36.320 What times do you want? 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:37.840 Well, I want to come in at 6 p.m. 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:38.399 at night. 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:42.480 If you know anything about fitness and going into the gym, 6 p.m. 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:44.159 at night is a zoo. 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.720 Like everybody's getting off work and everybody okay. 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:51.679 The worst trainers are busy at 6 p.m. 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:52.399 at night. 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.159 It's just that time slot. 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:57.360 Like it's it's prime time. 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:59.360 I said, No, I I can't do it. 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.559 And she's like, Well, I guess we can't work together. 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:08.720 Next day at 2 p.m., she was working with another trainer. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:10.559 Oh wow. 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:11.120 Okay. 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:12.159 All right. 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:13.120 Right? 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:21.679 And while she was working with that trainer, I picked up a group of girls. 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:22.240 Okay. 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.360 And my girls were flying. 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.279 They were kicking, kicking ass, man. 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:32.799 Like three of them, they were working hard, and she sat on the machine doing her leg extensions. 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:34.879 Her trainer is walking around with a clipboard. 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.200 I never so often she's peeping across. 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:37.679 Right. 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.000 Now, this is a high caliber athlete. 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:42.240 High caliber athlete, exactly. 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:48.159 I know she's she's relegated to doing knee extensions while somebody walks around with a clipboard. 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.320 And I know him personally, he's a friend of mine. 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:50.559 Okay. 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.759 He's just trying to figure out what he could do to run the clock down. 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:54.799 Gotcha. 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.759 And she's speeping over ever so often in my mind. 00:13:57.840 --> 00:13:59.120 I'm like, huh. 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:06.960 And at that point in time, and going forward up to this day, I said, I am gonna make myself so good. 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:07.840 Wow. 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:14.000 That the only reason you could say no to me is because you don't like how I look, how I speak. 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.240 It can't be for my for the for for the lack of knowledge. 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:18.559 Right. 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:19.519 Can't be. 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.720 Because my self-esteem is based on learning. 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:23.200 Yes. 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:24.000 And guess what? 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:31.200 Guess guess the one cool thing about learning is that you could never learn this always room to learn more. 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:32.480 Right, always. 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:33.840 Always room to learn more. 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:40.720 So if you base your self-esteem on something that's exponential, somebody can't just come and take it away from you. 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.200 So I have to ask this question. 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:43.840 Uh-huh. 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:51.759 Did she show any regret for not choosing you as her trainer? 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:55.279 I didn't even pay attention. 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:56.960 Ah, you moved on. 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:57.279 Okay. 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:01.360 Yeah, because the minute I saw her peeping and I saw what she was doing, I was like, cool. 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:01.919 There you go. 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:02.639 That's what you get. 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:03.120 All right. 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:03.759 There you go. 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:04.720 That's what you get. 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:08.159 Well, I tell you what. 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:21.360 Um what fascinated me as I was reading through some of your material was what was called a chance encounter with an unlikely mentor. 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:22.240 Yeah. 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:23.440 Ah, see, yeah. 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:30.879 And and and and for those of you who who can't see Jason, his face just lit up when I when I said that. 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:38.480 Uh and um this person changed the entire trajectory of your life. 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:55.519 And so when you look at at the people you coach today at Body Image, how do you cultivate that same quiet transformational space for them that your mentor held for you? 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:08.399 I think I think for thinking up thinking back to how he transformed, how he lit that fire. 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:13.600 It was something that had a past void. 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.519 I had something that was missing. 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:16.080 Okay. 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:21.039 And when I say a chance, it was just a chance encounter. 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:22.240 It just happened. 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.840 That piece of the puzzle just happened to fit right there. 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:31.759 And that past perceived void created this want. 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.720 And it was just at that one point in time it happened. 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:42.720 So for me, when I'm looking at

my clients, we get that information. 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:44.559 And people are like onions, right? 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:45.279 Yes. 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.799 You have to go through layers and layers and layers. 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.200 They come in, it's like, hey, I want to lose weight. 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:52.720 Like, why do you want to lose the weight? 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:54.240 Well, this, and then why? 00:16:54.480 --> 00:17:01.360 And I I figured out after the fifth why, if somebody's being honest with you, yes. 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.679 You really get to the juice. 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.960 And when you get that juice, you understand that person, you make this connection. 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:18.480 All the cues, all the things you say to motivate them must revolve around that core thing that I told you. 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.400 And it must be positive. 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:22.400 You mustn't use that as ammunition, right? 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.319 Because then that's being vindictive and mean. 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:27.200 Right. 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:36.559 But that one thing that they secretly desire, that they held close to their hearts prior to telling you, now you have that information. 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:43.200 You have to find different ways to say things, to connect the person with that goal. 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:46.079 And sometimes you might get it right the first time. 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:50.960 Sometimes you might have to have five or six or ten, fifteen iterations. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:18:02.319 But people will always say, I heard your voice, when they encounter an obstacle that that align that that reminds them of that thing that they want. 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:02.799 Yes. 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.559 And that's when you know you actually hit a button. 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.039 So how do I do it? 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:13.200 I just connect with people on a deeper level. 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:14.319 I love it. 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.200 And you use that information to inspire them. 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.400 So your mentor. 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:29.039 How did you know that this was the person that would change your life? 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:30.880 Didn't I had no idea. 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:31.839 No idea. 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:32.960 Had no idea. 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:38.960 So let me let me take you through and take the audience through a little short story about that. 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:40.319 Yes, please, please. 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:46.480 So my dad was a power lifter, a bodybuilder. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.559 When I was born, I saw him far off of his speak. 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.759 Because remember, from a family of eight, I'm the last one. 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.880 Seven years removed from the second to last sibling. 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:01.440 Right. 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:06.000 He has eight kids, a wife, and himself to take

care of. 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:06.640 Yes. 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:08.640 There's no time for the gym. 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.319 He had to work. 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:16.480 So by the time I came to knowing my dad, he wasn't this Herculean guy anymore. 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:17.039 Okay. 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.880 He just got back down to being, you know, regular size. 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:22.079 Regular size. 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:28.559 He had nice calves, nice legs, and everybody I met was like, hey, your dad, his nickname was Samson. 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:28.799 Oh. 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:34.240 In fact, there were rumors that he could have represented the country. 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:35.440 Wow. 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:36.720 And powerlifting. 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:36.960 Yeah. 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.000 And he was too shy. 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:39.599 He didn't, he didn't want to do that. 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:41.200 Oh, wow. 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:46.640 So you would think that I would learn some stuff from him, but I didn't. 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.680 He was a sales trainer. 00:19:50.160 --> 00:20:01.759 And they would have uh he would regularly host his agency at the house, bringing a couple agents in who was, you know, stop producers, he would enrich them. 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:03.200 You know what he thing works. 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:03.680 Right. 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.519 And there was an old barbel set in the living room. 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.960 And I'm like, why is this thing hanging out here? 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:14.240 And these boys were arm wrestling in school. 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:14.880 Okay. 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:20.640 And when I tried to arm wrestle, they would literally smash my hands every single time. 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:24.880 They didn't even want to arm wrestle me because they didn't want to waste their energy. 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:39.599 And being a skinnier kid going to uh a very respected um high school, these boys were smart, but they were bullies. 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:50.000 And uh I was walking into I walked into the living room one day, one of those meetings, and one of my dad's agents, Peter, tall black guy. 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:50.559 Okay. 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.359 He was always, he's really nice. 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:54.640 He was always nice to me. 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.279 Saw me looking at the barbel on the floor. 00:20:57.440 --> 00:20:59.599 And he leaves the meeting and he comes across. 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.079 No, mind you, my dad was a bodybuilder. 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:02.880 Right. 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:11.279 This guy, Peter, comes across and he looks at me and he picks up the barbel and he signals an arm curl. 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:11.759 Okay. 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:16.240 He said, you know, if you do this, your arms will get stronger. 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:17.839 I was like, huh. 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:21.039 That might be useful for arm wrestling in school. 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:21.440 Right. 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.160 With no rhyme or reason, I did a thing. 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:26.640 A couple months later, I went back in school. 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:31.839 Guys who were crushing my hands, I was looking at them in the eye like this. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:32.480 Yes. 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.920 And it's like, dude, like last week I was splitting you down. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:36.720 Like, what was that? 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:37.119 What are you? 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:38.000 What are you doing? 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:38.480 What are you taking? 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:39.359 What are you doing? 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:40.160 Right. 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:45.039 And and and and that that lit a fire that lasted a lifetime. 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:58.240 But that one chance, that one moment, like you never know who you are going to encounter that could change your trajectory of your life, could could could blow your life up exponentially. 00:21:58.559 --> 00:21:59.279 Unlikely. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.599 Likely in capital letters. 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:02.160 Yes. 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:03.440 Bold letters. 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:05.839 Like this wasn't planned. 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.319 This guy didn't look like he lifted a weight. 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:09.680 He's just a he's just a big dude. 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.440 Didn't look like he lifted a weight. 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:12.319 Right. 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:15.440 But he just saw me, he came over, and that was it. 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.160 He just said this is how you do a curl, an arm curl. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:19.119 So you do a curl. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:20.160 That was it. 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:26.000 Did you ever work out with him anymore after that? 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.359 No, I no. 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.200 No, he I saw him regularly. 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:31.599 Okay. 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.240 But we were always in the office second when I go to visit my dad. 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:36.960 They were always in like suits, and you'd be like, Hi, how are you doing? 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:37.599 Blah, blah, blah. 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:37.839 Okay. 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.680 But it wasn't like he was a fitness coach or anything. 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:46.960 It just happened to be really chance, a chance encounter. 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:53.119 And you know, I, you know, and and I'm going to say that I'm not really a big believer in chance. 00:22:53.359 --> 00:23:00.000 You know, that sounds like to me that that was just orchestrated by the universe to just happen the way that it did. 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:16.319 And you were, you were open to it at that time, and he was open to it because there was something that moved him to even come over and just say those words to you, not try to, you know, make you do a workout routine. 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.519

You know, he just he just said, This is an arm curl. 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.440 You know, if you do this, you can get stronger. 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.359 It's like, okay, that's it. 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.960 And I think that that's something that our audience needs to understand too. 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:35.519 Oftentimes we look for a mentor and we look at them as a person who can be with me along the journey of my life, right? 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:43.359 Or for a season, a I, you know, I need to sit at the feet of this person for the next three years and then I'll be good. 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:45.279 And that's why I call a mentor. 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:57.440 But you just described a mentor that can come into your life for a few moments and then mentally stick with you for the rest of your life. 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.119 And that is so profound to hear. 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:05.359 And and really, realistically, I never thought about that until this moment. 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:13.920 Yeah, like, you know, I had this thing, I would say it takes like one second, one minute, one hour, one conversation, one encounter. 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:20.400 And that could just set you on the path um that you would be on for a lifetime. 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:27.200 It's and and what's even crazy about the story is what was a barbell set doing in the living room? 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.920 So now you got me thinking that this wasn't a chance. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.839 I gotta rewrite that script, right? 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.440 This wasn't a chance in counter. 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:36.960 This was this this was destiny. 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:38.559 That was destiny, right? 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.799 What was a barbell doing in if my mom saw it, she'd have should have gone crazy. 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:44.720 She was like, get this out of here. 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:45.359 Right? 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.680 What was that doing in the living room? 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:52.640 I think my brother got it from somewhere else and put it in there, like in transition. 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.519 And it it just happened to align. 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.119 Oh, wow. 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:01.359 And um Yeah, that that that's profound, uh, I have to say. 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:12.319 So so I think that both of us have just been wowed by this story that you've probably told over and over, but we discovered something new, you know, in this process. 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:13.599 Wow, profound. 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.640 Okay, so so so let's let's let's shift. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:24.880 Let's go back to um this this this athlete that this female athlete that you were preparing to train. 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:40.480 Uh and I I think that that story is profound because you put yourself in a position where you're training women to become better. 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.599 Better athletes, better people, better individuals. 00:25:45.839 --> 00:26:07.599 And it appears that, you know, there's something about you know the female athlete or the one that that works out um when it comes to their well-being and their care, right, and and and what they want to accomplish and their their intention and and as as is stated, your their discipline. 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:30.720 So, so you put yourself in a position where you've listened to women and they've taught you about patience, empathy, and holistic health that the traditional industry overlooks. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.559 Why is that significant to you? 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.160 Well, having five sisters. 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:48.960 I knew that was gonna come up at some point, but and uh about you know, fifteen or twenty nieces, you know. 00:26:51.119 --> 00:27:06.400 I think when we created body image, and my business partner was a guy who left, and I recruited one of my co-workers to fill this spot. 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.160 I said, Hey, this is a sinking ship. 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.799 Okay, I don't have money to pay you. 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:18.880 I could give you a stipend, do your little thing on the side, but I need your help. 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.799 Yes, she's later now my girlfriend. 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:27.440 Oh I said, I need your help. 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:37.279 When she came into the business, literally the next month we were up about 50 or 60 percent in revenue. 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:38.160 Wow. 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:52.319 And as the business grew and we progressed and we attract we attracted more women, it was a safer space for women to share the experiences and different things. 00:27:52.480 --> 00:28:00.640 One of the one of the things that they share a lot or they say a lot is the fact that they feel dismissed when they go to the doctors. 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:07.039 Doc, well, I'm having brain fog or I'm gaining weight, or I feel like this. 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:13.680 And doctor's like, well, just you know, exercise more and eat a little less and go for a walk or something like that. 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:15.039 But that's not it. 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:16.799 I I feel I feel this way. 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:40.559 Um when we when the business evolved, as I said before, we created a space for women to express that, and that's how I start to deepen it, I deepen my understanding and my knowledge as like, hey, this is one of the major problems or concerns with almost all the women that work through the door. 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:49.200 If I am to serve my people, how do we break this bond and and and and hear them out? 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.039 How do we um help them solve their problems? 00:28:53.359 --> 00:29:01.200 So when we started training, we started learning different skills, stress-reduced fat loss, metabolic balance. 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:05.759 So now I could understand, and we again we could connect. 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.720 Okay,

and I could help you on a deeper level. 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:23.759 So, and the the cool thing is that some of them come to us before going to their doctors, and I'm like, hey, hey, hey, all right, we're not doctors, but it shows that the level of trust and communication and connection is so great. 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.480 And and you're getting into the science of things. 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:27.279 Yeah. 00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.119 They would want to they would want to consult with us first. 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:38.480 Or arm themselves with information to ask better questions when they go to their primary care physicians. 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:38.880 Okay. 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.160 And that enhances the care that they receive on that into. 00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:44.160 Wow. 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:50.799 So so you can consider yourself to be a consultant prior to a doctor visit, right? 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.480 Um to be honest. 00:29:52.640 --> 00:30:02.559 Uh and you know, by virtue of what you just said, you're putting your clients in a better position to be heard. 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.920 And I believe in life, there there are three things. 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:14.480 People they want to be heard, they want to be understood, and they want to understand. 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:15.279 Yeah. 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:32.799 And it's those three things that I hear you saying as it relates to women in the fitness arena, so to speak, and becoming better because women can be ignored in a lot of places in life, right? 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:45.839 Uh, not only in the at the doctor's office or in the hospital or wherever, but you know, I hear women saying, you know, I don't like going to get my oil changed, you know, because I feel like, you know, I'm gonna get taken advantage of. 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:50.240 They're gonna try to sell me this or do that, thinking that I don't know what I'm talking about. 00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:57.599 So with you arming women, that helps them to feel more confident going into I think all arenas of life. 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.279 Yeah, remember to I I was a man. 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.160 I was I'm a man and I I wasn't seen before. 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:05.279 Right, exactly. 00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:06.400 So you can identify. 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.160 I can identify with that, right? 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:14.880 And two, it's like for women to be seen, they need to be, they need to become something that they're not. 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:22.319 So like a very timid, feminine woman might have to move to like a type A personality, right? 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.680 And she might have to put on this tough front and be more aggressive to be seen. 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.000 And that's just not who she is. 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:30.880 Right. 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:37.279 So if they feel like this all the time, it starts changing the way they operate. 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.480 And that's that's that's that's not good. 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:41.920 It's not fair to them. 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.039 So so what is your take? 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:55.920 Because I'm I'm gonna go here now, because I I know a lot of women have engaged in GLP one, right? 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:04.880 What is your take on the involvement of that in the health industry? 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.319 Like, how does a person balance, okay? 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.559 I want to lose weight, and I think this is one of your specialties. 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.720 I want to lose weight, but I don't want to lose muscle. 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:18.960 I don't want to lose muscle mass. 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:24.480 Yeah, I don't want to just drop the pounds and become weaker. 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:26.079 Right? 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.480 So what is your take? 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:42.000 One on women women taking that particular medication, and two, how do you help them when they find themselves in a place where they feel weaker because of it? 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:49.200 Well, the first woman you described is more of the educated consumer. 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.640 A lot of women don't think like that. 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:53.200 Okay. 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:59.519 So that's the ones that do a lot of research are not wanting to lose muscle mass. 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.160 We still have a lot of women just wanting to weigh lighter. 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:04.559 Okay. 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:09.039 And that because the scale is going down, it means that your health is going up. 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:10.559 Right? 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:22.559 So for the woman who is who has armed herself with information and doesn't want to lose muscle mass, here's what we can here's here's what we need to understand. 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:30.319 One, you save muscle mass by doing two things mechanical tension, exercise. 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.319 And two, uh by keeping an adequate protein intake. 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:37.519 Okay. 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.279 Because that's how that's how that's how the body responds to save muscle. 00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:45.839 When you're in a calorie deficit, the body wants to remove tissue. 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:55.200 What you do, how you eat, tells the body to prioritize which tissue is going to remove and which tissue is going to save. 00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.960 I'm just I'm just really simplifying it here. 00:33:59.200 --> 00:33:59.440 Okay. 00:33:59.599 --> 00:33:59.759 Right? 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:11.920 So if you're doing heavy mechanical loading, and note the word heavy, we're working in the 75 to 85 percent rep rep range, intensity range. 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.440 What does that look like? 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:14.000 Okay. 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.159 Eight to 12 reps. 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:24.480 Anything beyond that is not enough to create the mechanical tension that

you would need to signal your body to hold on to the muscle mass. 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:24.800 Okay. 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:26.800 It needs to be heavy and hard. 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:27.519 Right? 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:28.000 Okay. 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:36.960 Number two, again, sufficient protein intake, ensuring that you're in a positive nitrogen balance, creating an anabolic environment. 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.199 Now you're not gonna build muscle on a GLP one. 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.719 The goal is to preserve the muscle that you already have. 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:45.119 Okay. 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.039 You are, or you are across the board, going to lose muscle. 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:57.760 But when you're on a regular diet, calorie restriction, you do lose muscle too as well. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:58.320 Okay. 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:08.079 But the rate at which the weight comes off and the muscle mass that muscle loss that comes with it will be more dangerous than the rate of a natural diet. 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:22.559 Like research, research is showing that the GLP1 in comparison to a caloric deficit is probably about what five to six times faster weight drop. 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:33.119 So let's say you lose five pounds in five pounds or six months in three months, multiply that by five or six, you're done 30 pongs in three months. 00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:44.559 If you were to stretch at five pongs over the year, you would still lose that that muscle mass that you would lose in the 30 in in in with it with the intervention. 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:49.440 But the intervention happens so fast that the muscle mass comes off almost immediately. 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:50.079 Okay. 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:50.880 I understand. 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.000 So the body the body's gonna remove muscle mass irregardless. 00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:59.199 But the rate at which using a GLP1 is is cause for concern. 00:35:59.440 --> 00:35:59.760 Okay. 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:00.960 Right? 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.519 Um, we are overfed and undernourished. 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:06.559 Yes. 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:18.960 So now we are being, with the appetite being controlled and we eating significantly less, we run the chance of risk of being malnourished. 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.320 Oh, okay. 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:27.199 So now we have to supply all the necessary micronutrients to keep a healthy fibrant body. 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:27.679 Okay. 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:36.960 The minerals, the multivitamins, um, the antioxidants, the polyphenols, all the cool stuff that the veggies and the fruits bring into the diet. 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:37.360 Right. 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.639 And we have to ensure that we have adequate fiber intake. 00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:49.440 And that's kind of like the main core things that you would need. 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:54.400 Some specialty things that we do too as well is testing the stomach acid. 00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:05.519 Because if your body doesn't have enough stomach acid, if it's not strong enough, you don't actually break down the protein into small amino acids that you can absorb. 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:12.880 So that's more like the around the more technical side of going into things, which I think is very important too. 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:22.079 But those are just the main things that I've outlined that if somebody does that well, they should be okay. 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:29.679 You know, you just put on a masterclass in in just those few minutes there and talking about what you just said. 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.800 Uh and uh it sounded so profound. 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:44.800 I mean, it made me want to just, you know, fly to Long Island and and uh take the class, you know, and come in and be a part of Body Image because uh it's it's that enticing. 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:51.840 Uh so my question is then, you know, do you have anything that people can tap into? 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.639 Because there's not a Jason Nelson everywhere, right? 00:37:54.719 --> 00:38:02.000 There's not a person with your drive and your passion to do what you do, you know, at every corner and facet of the earth. 00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:14.400 Uh so with that, you are the one to continue to take this message out and cause the reach to go further than Long Island, New York. 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:15.199 Right? 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.039 So how are you doing that? 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.079 Or are you doing that? 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:24.159 And how can people tap in to the knowledge that you just gave in those few moments? 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:29.119 Well, everything I just outlined is our online program. 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:30.159 All right. 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:31.840 That's what I was getting to. 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:33.920 So you could you can find us anywhere. 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.760 Our um medical providers work across all 50 states. 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:38.400 Okay. 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.239 So you will have a medical team on the back end to answer all your questions. 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:44.639 Wow. 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:52.239 They do the prescribing, they do the follow-up, and um we provide the coaching um and all the support that you need. 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.639 I mean, we have done this a couple hundred times. 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:08.719 So there's a there's a cluster of concerns and questions and fixes that's um that we garden to move things along fast. 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:09.519 Okay. 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.800 So you so you look at the long term and not the short term. 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.880 You you want and but so many people look at the short term only. 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:23.599 I mean, that's the type of society we live in where people want things fast and quick and in a hurry. 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:33.440 And I think that has set the stage for you to come in and

say it's okay if something takes a little longer uh to achieve. 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.199 Oh, yeah, definitely. 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:47.599 You know, um the GLP one is just a tool we use to acquire the noise while we lay around the foundations, because when the drug has when the drug is done, the foundations will remain. 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:48.559 Yes. 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:54.159 And that's and that's how we're able to have a 94% success rate. 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.440 Like six months after the intervention has ended. 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:05.679 Okay, 94% of our people maintain their weight, maintain their body weight. 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:19.599 So if they weighed 135 at the end of the intervention, six months later, they they're able to maintain their weight just because we layer down the foundations and the habits that you need. 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:26.639 We just use the tool to acquire the noise to give the changes time to work. 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:27.679 That's it. 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:36.320 And when it comes to weight loss or fat loss, I would say, fat loss is the entry point to longevity. 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.480 Most people think when they lose the fat, that's it. 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:51.920 I could tell you from myself personally, from testing myself and testing other people, that is not the case because what you don't know will kill you. 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:53.760 That is true. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.639 And that is true in so many instances. 00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:00.320 And it starts, you know, a lot with the food that we eat. 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:03.840 And, you know, I it's hard to say even what's safe nowadays. 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:16.960 You know, my my wife and I, you know, we we have a plant-based lifestyle, uh, and uh, but we we have to find, you know, through plant proteins, different ways of making sure that that protein intake is is there. 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:21.519 And sometimes it's difficult, you know, to maintain that. 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:31.599 Uh and and and but I want to jump over to um you know the human optimization project because and I want to ask you a question here. 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:38.400 Um, because you focus on energy, cognition, and biological aging. 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:55.920 And and when you stripped away conventional ideas of getting older, right, what core habits did you find that truly preserve a person's vitality and spirit as the decades pass? 00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:57.760 This is such a great question. 00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.280 And this is something I want to know. 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.119 I mean, I'm intrigued as I get older. 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:06.960 I want to know hey, what are those those key aspects that preserve a person's vitality and spirit? 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.960 This is such a good question, and it's a very simple answer. 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:29.119 Of all when I look at all the biological age data of the people that I work with, including myself, lifestyle modifications move the needle the most. 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.800 And set that aside for now, okay. 00:42:34.960 --> 00:43:02.559 Right, with all the peptides and HRT and GLP ones, when I sat on the sessions with the clinical team on the diagnostic side, and they are going through reports with me, what they found is people who are using a lot of the peptide therapies seem to be doing more harm to their biological age than good. 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:03.760 Okay. 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:13.679 So it's uh you use what you need to use to optimize to get to a certain point, and after that, that's it. 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:19.360 What it found was too many peptides at once conf conflicting signals. 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:20.000 Okay. 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.960 So the body doesn't know how to respond. 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:28.239 Certain things tend to cancel out each other, for lack of a better word. 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:28.719 Yes. 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:34.880 So the body's interpreting the signals like, well, I don't know if we should do this or we should do that. 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.719 And it makes sense, right? 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:37.360 Right. 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:41.280 So I'm I'm a strong advocate for peptide therapy. 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:42.400 I use it myself. 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.679 I recommend it myself. 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:44.159 Okay. 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:51.840 But only to only to optimize and bring certain uh aspects of your health up. 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:52.320 Okay. 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:53.199 And that's it. 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.760 And when you get to that point, you back off. 00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.679 So so it's important for people to do research to understand. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:07.519 Understand that you just can't dive into something and just do it over and over and over and expect all these positive results. 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.039 You have to know the process. 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:09.760 Right. 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.920 And and and the research has to start with awareness and testing. 00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:14.559 Okay. 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:20.800 Like the three major tests in the human optimization project. 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.840 We use epigenetic methylation testing. 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:24.320 Okay. 00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:34.639 Which is the gold standard, by the way, the true way to test your biological age because it satisfies all AFAR's criteria, the American Federation for Aging Research. 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:35.119 Okay. 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:39.119 And it's funny, I have uh people using like the Hume the Hume band. 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:40.000 Yes, yes. 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:45.280 And I have this one client, and she's like, this thing keeps aging me every week. 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.480 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, just just take a deep breath and like slow down.

00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.400 It's like it satisfies just one of the four criteria. 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:55.280 Right? 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:55.760 Okay. 00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:00.320 So don't don't don't don't don't lose sleep over it. 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.920 Um I don't think a lot of people know the criteria though. 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.039 So ah so the four criteria. 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.400 One, it must truly predict the rate of biological aging. 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:21.599 Number two, it must be proven in mammals with shorter lifespans before being proven in humans. 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:22.079 Okay. 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:29.119 Number three, it must predict the rate of aging regardless of any chronic disease. 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:33.679 So it just it mustn't tell you that you have diabetes. 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.039 It must look at the foundation under that. 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:37.519 Okay. 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:44.880 And number four, it must be able to be retested without causing harm to the individual. 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.360 So a simple blood draw, but not like a dangerous biopsy. 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:50.000 Okay. 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:50.960 Wow. 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.800 So with a a human only satisfies number four. 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:58.719 The other three, it doesn't. 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:00.639 The other three is it's missing. 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:01.119 Right? 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:01.760 Okay. 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:10.800 So part two of these tests, one is called the organ system agent, and this is very important for everybody listening. 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:11.280 Okay. 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.960 So the 11 organ systems that's tested. 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:21.199 Heart, brain, liver, kidney, musculoskeletal, lungs, a couple of this. 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:30.000 So let's it it shows you the age of these organ systems with in regards to your chronological age. 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:37.920 And what I've seen is across all the tests, including mine, what you optimize for is what you get. 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:51.519 So I'm pretty sure as a runner yourself, your long, your long scores are pretty good, your cardiorespiratory scores are pretty good, your your metabolic scores are pretty good. 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:56.480 But if you don't strengthen, your musculoskeletal scores might be behind. 00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:04.000 So now you see this awesome line graph with these little buttons, just like your DJ mixer. 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:04.639 Yes. 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.679 But it's not it's not horizontal anymore, it's vertical. 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:15.599 So on the top, it's your chronological age, and then you have the biological age of all the 11 organ systems below. 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:22.400 So the goal is to bring them into alignment and behind your chronological age. 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.679 And you see somebody, I've an avid runner. 00:47:25.840 -->

00:47:27.199 I see your scores. 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.039 I hate doing cardio. 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:33.920 I force myself to do a little, my musculoskeletal scores are like 37. 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:34.719 Okay. 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.519 And then my brain scores aging a bit faster. 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:40.719 Wow. 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:47.360 So it doesn't being fit or being lean does not solve for everything. 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.559 We need to lift the hood, go under. 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:51.920 That's interesting. 00:47:52.079 --> 00:48:04.800 And one of the the third score, which I think has the most um, which we use to test the protocol or retest the protocol is the pace of aging. 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.400 So it's like a speedometer. 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:07.199 Oh. 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:13.119 So one equals one biological age year to one chronological age year. 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:13.920 That's an equal. 00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:14.239 Okay. 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.519 A negative score means that you're aging slower. 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:18.719 I like that. 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:22.239 One one point something means that you're aging faster. 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:22.800 Okay. 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:36.320 And for every one year, your chronological age, your biological age is over your chronological age, you have a 17% chance risk of dying of cancer within the next five years. 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:40.880 So if the delta is three, that's what, 51? 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:41.679 Okay. 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:42.719 Wow. 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:50.639 So these are things that we need to know because it goes beyond how you look and how you feel. 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:51.360 Right. 00:48:51.679 --> 00:49:03.199 Because at certain at certain points in time, the the we have this um genetic time switch that clicks on and they say, hey, you're gonna get arthritis. 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.880 And bam, you get arthritis, right? 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:06.320 Like dementia, for instance. 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:06.960 Exactly. 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.280 Seems to show up at just this one particular time, you know, 68, 69, 70. 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.440 My mom is battling dementia right now. 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.440 Okay, wow, sorry. 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:25.760 And prior to that, she's fine, and suddenly it happens. 00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.000 So, so what let's go there just for a second. 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:40.400 You know, I I know we're we we're we're um you know, uh taking a lot of time with this, and and and I want to because I want people to hear your voice and hear what you have to say. 00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:50.960 What are some brain health exercises or things that people need to do to keep everything in alignment? 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.360 The brain, the body. 00:49:53.519 --> 00:50:00.000 I mean, we want the that you know slamming looking body, but the brain is suffering in the process. 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.960 How can we keep the brain, you know, in sync with what we're seeing physically? 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.800 Okay, so I'm gonna take you back to what I put aside at the beginning of that long-winded answer. 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:11.760 Yes, okay. 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:20.159 Some of the more some of the easier things we could do to optimize our biological age to slow it down. 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.800 Sleep number one. 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.920 And when it comes to brain health, sleep again. 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.159 Is it eight hours though? 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.800 Is it is it because that that's something that you know, or or is it just real sleep? 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.960 Like we we gotta hit that realm sleep. 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:37.920 Talk to us. 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:48.559 Once you're sleeping, once you are getting seven to eight, seven to nine uninterrupted sleep, the body's the body should go through those cycles. 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:49.039 Okay. 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:57.679 So that I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's not important, but the goal is to get sufficient uninterrupted sleep. 00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:58.239 Okay. 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.360 When that happens, you should go through those cycles. 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:10.159 So if a person is just you know sleeping eight hours, but they're getting up every hour, interrupted or turning and tossing, and you know, that's not eight hours of sleep. 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:13.360 That's just eight hours of lying, you know, horizontally. 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:14.239 Correct. 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:20.079 And, you know, they're they're there are you know, to not to get too long-winded again, right? 00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:27.440 There are different parts in that sleep cycle, that weak cycle, where we could target certain systems of the body. 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:34.880 11 to 1, this reactive hypoglycemia, one to three might be a liver issue. 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:35.119 Okay. 00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.079 Two to five could be oxidative stress. 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:43.119 Now, when it comes to brain health, you said exercises. 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.960 That's one way to look at brain health. 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.840 Now we need to look at detox for the brain. 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:58.000 Sleep helps with detoxifying the brain because sleep enhances what is called your redox cycle, your redox state, sorry, and the brain. 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.239 And exercise. 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:01.760 How does exercise help? 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:03.599 And what type of exercise helps? 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:12.400 Well, strength training helps, aerobic training helps, but you know that workout where you have to do 50 jumps, squat jumps. 00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:18.239 Yes, and your muscles are burning, and you want to give up. 00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.199 But you might just be in a group and you don't want to look soft.

00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.199 You don't want to look bad, you don't look soft. 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:25.840 The ego kicks in. 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:31.519 That the waste product, the lactate that builds up in the blood. 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.119 The brain loves that. 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:37.280 The lactate goes to the brain and becomes what is called BDNF. 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:37.599 Really? 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.079 Brain-derived neotropic factor. 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.440 And that acts as like fertilizers for the neurons. 00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.760 Neurons get ahead of that, and they're like, oh, this is good. 00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:54.079 So that type of training really um enhances brain health. 00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:01.679 Then you use stuff to detoxify the brain, and NRF1 um activators. 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:02.880 I hope I got it right. 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:04.400 Um, horseradish. 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:05.280 Oh, really? 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:06.320 Wasabi. 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:06.880 Yeah. 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:08.639 I love I love that stuff. 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:09.840 Yeah, right. 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.519 And then we're looking at um exercises for the brain. 00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:20.239 I saw this one doctor on Instagram, she's a cognitive health specialist, and I stole it and I did with my clients, right? 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:20.800 Oh, yeah. 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:27.360 So you get a tennis ball and you toss it against the wall, right hand, left hand, right hand, left hand. 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:28.880 And then you close one eye. 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:35.199 And what you're actually doing, you're what you're actively doing, is getting cross-hemispheric communication. 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.039 Right brain, left brain. 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:37.440 Okay. 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:38.079 Right. 00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:41.599 And then you stand on one leg now to take it up to a different level. 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.320 Because remember the brainstem, the basal ganglia, the cerebellum. 00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:46.960 Yes. 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.239 All those things work with higher brain functions. 00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:59.280 So the more we could challenge ourselves proprioceptively, proprioceptively, the better the more aware the brain has to become. 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.239 It sends more efferent and afferent neurons. 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:05.760 It has to have this super high way it starts going. 00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.800 So now we're becoming sharper. 00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:15.360 So we sleep well, we eat well, we train hard, and we enhance the brain through activities. 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.039 And now we stand a chance. 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:20.000 I I get it. 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:21.280 So we stand a chance. 00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.119 So the more dormant we are and the less sleep we get, we're actually doing harm to the brain. 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:28.559 Oh my gosh, 100%. 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.960 I mean, and there are other things that we can't control, like microplastics. 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:33.840 True. 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.320 Yes. 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:35.760 You know, you're right. 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:41.519 We can only control what we can, and that's the best we could do. 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:48.559 We could limit the use of plastics in the house, you know, um, but control what you can. 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.000 And I think that's a good message for people to understand. 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.599 Because sometimes people give up because they say, well, what's the use? 00:54:55.760 --> 00:55:00.960 You know, I can't do anything about these external factors, but you can do something about you. 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:08.000 You can live the best life that you can in the midst of all these other factors that you cannot control. 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.239 And that's what I hear you saying. 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:17.519 And so, well, you know, we can't give it all away because you know, we want people to go to your site, get the online course. 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:19.039 I need to sign up for it. 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:24.480 We need to all sign up for it because this is valuable information. 00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:32.719 And I have to say that that you have really helped me to see things differently too, as well. 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.079 Uh, and I'm serious about you know checking you out. 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:40.960 And and um I would love to, and I I gotta come see you next time in New I'm in New York. 00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:41.840 I am there. 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:52.800 My wife and I love traveling to New York, and so we will come and check you out and uh at least uh get a glimpse of of you live and in an action, right? 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:54.480 That's that's the that's the key. 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:59.440 But but the other part is that online presence and and you have that. 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.559 And so how can people tap into that? 00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.280 Well, you could find me on Instagram. 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:11.119 I'm more active there, J Nelson, J-A-Y, Nelson 0580. 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:12.639 I'm there on Instagram. 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:13.039 Okay. 00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.400 And you could go to bodyimage.health. 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:21.599 And I've just redone my website, so it should be looking beautiful. 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:22.159 All right. 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.039 Well, we want people to go to bodyimage.health. 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:29.199 And there you'll there you'll find um information. 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:37.440 And I'm not I'm not one to to have tons of explanations and stuff on my website. 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.519 It's just some core messages. 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:42.639 If it resonates with you, hopefully it does. 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.880 If it doesn't, I'm not your guy. 00:56:45.199

--> 00:56:47.119 But but listen, let me let me say this though. 00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:54.320 People, I I think that that part of um you know website building is behind us. 00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:57.599 I think people want to know, okay, what are the bullet points? 00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:58.480 What do I need to know? 00:56:58.559 --> 00:56:59.519 What do I need to understand? 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:00.880 What are you offering? 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.039 I'm not gonna sit here and take two hours to read through your web page. 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:06.960 People are not doing that anymore. 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.360 And they 100% they're not doing that. 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:12.320 You know, and that's that's why I fired my last guy. 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:16.559 I said people, people are not if they want to read, they'll go read. 00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:17.280 Right. 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:17.920 Exactly. 00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:23.599 Just want to just want to see within five seconds, ten seconds, if you're the right person for me. 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:29.360 So, so short to the point website, you got your Instagram page. 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:34.719 Uh, and so I think that those two tools uh are key in this process. 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:43.920 So, due to expire listeners, I want you to go to your IG, check out, is it J J A Y Nelson? 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:45.599 0580. 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:47.360 0580. 00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:51.039 Go check it out and then bodyimage.health. 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:52.320 You gotta do it. 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:53.679 Uh, I'll be right there with you. 00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:58.960 I've already I'm already a follower of you on on Instagram, so that's that's that's key right there. 00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:03.679 Um, and so here's my final question for you today, my friend. 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:12.960 You know, when the noise of the fitness world fades away, I want you to follow me on this one. 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:32.800 When all the noise of the fitness world fades away, and you look back at your journey from Trinidad to Long Island, New York, from being one of eight, the youngest of eight, to the founder of Body Image. 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:44.800 What is the essential truth about health that you hope your clients pass down to the next generation coming from you? 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:56.559 Stand guard at the gates of your mind and don't stop, don't dig your grave with a knife and fork. 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.480 Wow, like most most Americans are doing that. 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:10.719 Yes, the food is not going anywhere, and you don't have to become uh a banana to be one of the bunch. 00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:13.440 I love that, right? 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.800 You don't don't give in to pressure. 00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:20.000 I've been called boring, I've been called this. 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:25.760 You know I I I think I I've heard this and I love this. 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:34.079 If you're on your deathbed, you cannot borrow life points from the person visiting you. 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:39.840 So while you're live and kicking, don't allow them to steal it. 00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:43.440 Wow, don't allow them to steal it. 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:50.320 Stand firm, lock it up, exercise, train, move your body. 00:59:50.400 --> 01:00:12.559 We were creatures that were designed to build and live stuff and move stuff, yes, create and you know, just surround yourself with the people that you love because in all the longevity studies in the blue zones, the number one thing was strong social connections. 01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:13.199 Yes. 01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:17.199 But you can connect if you can't move around. 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:18.159 Wow. 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:20.480 Full circle. 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:21.599 That's big. 01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:22.400 All right. 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:27.039 Well, listen, that is profound advice, profound knowledge. 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:42.079 You heard it yourself, ladies and gentlemen, from one of the people that I have grown during this podcast to admire even more, Jason Nelson, founder of Body Image and the Health Optimization Project. 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.159 You're doing great work, Jason. 01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:45.119 We appreciate you. 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:49.679 I thank you for sharing this knowledge and wisdom with us today. 01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:58.400 And hopefully, all of our listeners will check you out and then also understand that they too have a role to play. 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:02.000 And right now, I'm gonna go work out. 01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:02.880 How about that? 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:04.559 That's that's awesome. 01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:05.519 All right. 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:06.960 Thank you for having me, buddy. 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:07.840 I appreciate it. 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:09.760 I appreciate you being here. 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.000 Uh, that's it, due to expire listeners. 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:28.000 Jason Nelson, thank you for reminding us that taking care of the body isn't about chasing a finish line, it's about protecting the container for our purpose, our presence, and our future. 01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:34.960 To everyone tuning in today, take a look at where you are directing your energy. 01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.159 Are you chasing quick fixes? 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:45.199 Or are you laying down foundations that will serve you decades from now? 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.599 Remember, your time is non-renewable. 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:57.039 Treat your mind, your health, and your longevity with the reverence they deserve. 01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.000 I want to thank you for listening today. 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.280 I'm your host, Corey Kennar.