บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Lights, Camera, Action! w/ Johnathan Rochford

It is Kai? 73 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:42.360 And tell you about Kai? 74 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:47.199 Well, Kai is very gray, he's another mentor is he 75 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:48.000 from Ninjago? 76 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.680 That's a different kind different kin I think of I 77 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:52.560 think of Ninjago. 78 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.240 He doesn't know a fire, he doesn't knowsu. 79 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.079 And then I think of my friend Jay, who looks 80 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.519 like a character from Ninja, who also is called Jay, 81 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.639 who has a guitar, and j plays the guitar. But 82 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:09.079 Kai is not in Ninjago. Correct, Yeah, we know of yes, 83 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.040 so we can confirm that we're not sure. But if 84 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:16.399 he is in Ninjago, he's hiding it. Well, there have 85 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:20.720 been no Ninja attacks or battles at the theater, correct, no, okay? 86 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.839 And then I think the story checks out. So how 87 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.160 do how do Kai and Louis kind of like tag 88 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:26.519 team this? 89 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:27.160 Well? 90 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:33.920 Kai is well, I think, if I remember correctly, Louis 91 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:37.920 does the lines, okay, and Kai does the putting me 92 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:38.399 in the. 93 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.920 Right area, like he got like double support. So you've 94 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:47.600 got the production support from Kai, like the stock, the stocking, 95 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:51.759 the blocking, and the staging come together. It's the stalking, uh, 96 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:54.600 and then you've got Louie's helping you with remembering the 97 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:58.759 lines and things like that. Yes, that is legit. Now 98 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:01.399 is this Kai's first production in general or first time 99 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.480 working with you, first. 100 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:07.360 Time working with me? He's done like he did like 101 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.480 Penguin Project is not the only theater group there, okay, 102 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.600 because that that theater also has other shows produced by 103 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.879 like I think might be the same people directing it. 104 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:21.000 Yeah, but that's. 105 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:24.439 Where Louis did the UH, Alice in Wonderland. 106 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.560 Junior show, Ruth and this tweedle something. 107 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:32.600 Yes, and Kai does lighting. He did lighting, Yeah, he 108 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:34.959 did lighting for that one. 109 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:35.680 I think he did. 110 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:38.600 Lighting for Chicago, and he did lightning for Sweeney Todd. 111 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.319 Nice. I've never seen Chicago or Sweeney Todd. 112 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.480 But then search up a map of the USA, then 113 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:46.000 you'll see it. 114 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:47.680 Well, I was going to go even deeper. I was 115 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:51.000 going to go. So there's a thing called DVD's that 116 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.360 were popular and I used to work at a Hollywood 117 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:57.639 video and the musical Chicago had come out with Queen 118 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:03.839 Latifa not an actual queen though, so unlike Fiona, who 119 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.560 is an actual queen. Right somewhat, okay, somewhat. 120 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.959 She was a princess then married someone who wasn't a prince. 121 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:13.759 Okay, I'm not sure how does that work? Like if 122 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.040 we go to Princey Jackson Princey Percy Jackson law is 123 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:18.639 like Fiona half blood then. 124 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:20.800 Not? 125 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:21.920 No? 126 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:32.680 Okay, wrong subject, we talk about fart lord. Okay, so 127 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:38.120 far quad, So you do great with comedic deliveries. I'm 128 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:39.639 assuming that's how you got this role. 129 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:45.600 Yes, cause if if you know something about theater, me 130 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.720 in theater. I love producing comedy into the theater. You 131 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:53.120 do you think everyone just an extra laugh, something relatable 132 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:54.079 to laugh along? 133 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.240 You put jokes on Mike's Yes. Something you like to 134 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:58.480 do is something you find nice? 135 00:07:59.000 --> 00:07:59.319 Yes? 136 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.639 I love it? You know also find nice? Is how 137 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:06.279 much work you've put in? Is this the most lines 138 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:07.639 you've had in a production? 139 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:08.160 No? 140 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.720 Actually, what he was like ninety six? 141 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.160 Okay? This is like I love. I love the autistic answer. 142 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.399 I know exactly how many lines I have. 143 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:21.079 I think what he was like ninety six okay, maybe 144 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.360 fair maybe one hundred, I'm not sure. 145 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.839 But maybe eighty seven maybe okay, which would. 146 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:30.839 Be great because yay, I love hockey. 147 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.720 Yeah, as a I guess that could be a random 148 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.120 Crosby reference. But let's pull it back, let's not. Let's 149 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.240 let's not let the ADHD get the best of us 150 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:44.399 so far quat Yes, making people laugh, Yes, being a 151 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.120 little shorter than most. Now

are you standing up? Are 152 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:47.840 you on your knees? 153 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.360 I'm actually oh, sorry for saying, actually I am standing up? 154 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:52.080 Standing up? 155 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:52.559 Yes? 156 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.799 Okay? Is just everyone taller around you? 157 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:55.399 Yes? 158 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.799 Are they standing on blocks like little yoga blocks? Just 159 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:02.759 walking around like some makeshift still? Okay? But I didn't 160 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:04.440 know if Kay was an engineer too. I know he 161 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:06.039 does lighting, I didn't know if he was an engineer. 162 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.559 He's a driver's license I thing. 163 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:14.679 Okay, that's an engineer and someone who has a driver's 164 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:19.840 license very similar. There is some overlap, there's some responsibility there. Yeah. 165 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:24.799 Yeah, I really love Penguin Project. Yeah, it is so 166 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.799 much fun to be in this show, getting to just 167 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:32.360 relate with people who also have some disabilities, and it's 168 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.559 just great to be in that type of community. 169 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:40.039 Now, what about theater Penguin Project is different than the 170 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.240 community you have with athletics. 171 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:47.039 Wow, this is more of theater and more singing, and 172 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.159 there is usually a lot more like I don't know 173 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.559 how to put it. It's still something great. 174 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.600 See, I would say from the outsider's perspective, I don't 175 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.320 want to say it seems like you might have more downtime, 176 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:05.840 but I almost feel like you might have more downtime 177 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:11.440 to actually talk and connect between because like when when 178 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.840 you're doing theater and it's not your your act or 179 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:18.559 your scene, yeah, you could probably just talk with friends 180 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.080 and hang out. Yeah, Whereas even if you're not on 181 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:22.919 the ice, you still kind of have to pay attention 182 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.120 to what's going on because you could be called at 183 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:28.399 any time. Yeah, Unlike in the middle of something that's 184 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.840 not your scene, right, Yeah, Like there's not I can't 185 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.279 imagine a moment where like Gingy is talking to Shrek 186 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.399 and all of a sudden they're like, fark what get 187 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.000 out here? And you're like, it's not even my scene. 188 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.200 They're like, doesn't matter, go put your home and on 189 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.000 go And you're like, why does Farquad have a helmet? 190 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.360 And why is you have skates? It it's all a 191 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:50.240 frozen swamp when the world's going on, and so I 192 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.480 can't imagine that happening, can you? 193 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:56.720 No? 194 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:04.519 No, okay, I mean crazier things have happened, right, Yes, 195 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.279 If Buddy the elf can play ice hockey, why can't 196 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:12.279 Farquat Right. 197 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.759 Might be a little too short. 198 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:20.039 Of patients, short on patients, yes, short on ability, short 199 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.200 on foresight. Oh could you imagine if whenever they broke 200 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.159 Ginger's legs they use him as the puck. Oh no, 201 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:30.919 this is deteriorating. Do not use Gingy as a puck. 202 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:34.440 We do not advocate for delicious desserts to be used 203 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:39.159 as talks. Do not torture desserts. That is a good point. 204 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.600 But back to this, like, what else do you think 205 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:47.039 is different between this experience and your your special Olympic 206 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:48.120 stuff and things like that. 207 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.840 Well, there's yeah, I do like agree. I do agree 208 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.279 with the a lot more downtime. Yeah, yeah, this is 209 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:59.360 really nice. Shout out to Noah, he's such a good friend. 210 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:03.720 Shout out no yeah, he's so great. He actually plays 211 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.879 my dad in this show because in one of the scenes. 212 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:12.120 Is an engineer years old. I don't know. 213 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.679 Okay, Well, anyway, who's your dad? 214 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.480 I don't know, so in the show. 215 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:24.759 Yeah, it's amazing, he's my dad in that scene. It's 216 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.600 the wedding scene. You'll be able to see it. 217 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.000 Yeah, we're in between shows, so my my show of 218 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:34.519 attendance will come up tomorrow. You've already had opening night, 219 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.919 You've already eaten chicken because of it. Yes, you've got friends. 220 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.600 Are there any other ways? It's different other than the 221 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.559 actual difference of athletics versus theater. 222 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:55.039 Well, like saying like, but at the beginning of the practices, 223 00:12:55.799 --> 00:13:00.759 we usually drive up early and then Noah's you, they're 224 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.720 playing Uno or something. Then we just

get to hang 225 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:04.200 out a long. 226 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:04.799 Yeah. 227 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.879 You get to learn more about people and it's just 228 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:07.600 really fun. 229 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.480 And I think that's a great example of what I 230 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:13.080 mean by downtime, because when you're getting dressed in the 231 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.639 locker room, like, you've got to stay focused because you've 232 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.120 got to get on the ice. Yeah, whereas we do, 233 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.480 like we take you early because you've got some really 234 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:22.679 cool friends to hang out with. And I just don't 235 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.600 think you get that with the special needs athletics stuff. 236 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.639 But I also not trying to put shame on it, no, no, 237 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.879 but that's right, like looking at it through the lens 238 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:36.039 of Christianity. Right, we're the body. If we were all hands, 239 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:39.559 then we'd have a hard time walking around. So the 240 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:41.360 hands do what the hands do, the feet does what 241 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.159 the feet does, the back does what the back does. 242 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.159 I feel like theater brings out a side of you 243 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:51.720 that's very healthy. I think it articulates you well. I 244 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.799 think it helps you communicate. I think it edifies the 245 00:13:55.240 --> 00:14:01.039 comedian in you. Whereas with Special Olympics and Asha, you 246 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.720 get that rambunctious energy out you get to use that 247 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:08.879 adds the ad d zoomies. You get to have that 248 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.639 opportunity where you know, you're running around on the ice 249 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.679 for three minutes, it's like, well, why why wouldn't you? 250 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.000 But if you're running around for three minutes in the 251 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:21.080 middle of your scene, it's like, fart, lord, what are 252 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:23.600 you doing? Like what are we what are we doing? For? 253 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.559 What are we doing here? Star Fruit? I don't even know? 254 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:38.080 So And you're right, like, this isn't for the sake 255 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.120 of throwing shade. This is for the sake of saying 256 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:45.639 like I think, in and of themselves, they fulfill really 257 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:49.879 different needs in the community. But They're really amazing because 258 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:55.360 it like most people, we're multi layered, Like you can 259 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.039 be as much of a community in right, you're you're 260 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:04.639 all what ogres are like onions, like ers are like ogres, 261 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:10.240 wait urgers are like onions onions, and onions are like zucchinis, 262 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.080 and zucchinis are like what's for dinner. 263 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.759 The donkey just intervenes with like, hey, I don't like onions. 264 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:21.039 I like parfes or moves parfes. I actually don't, sorry donkey. 265 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:23.879 But if Donkey's wife rafts, does Donkey go ooh that's 266 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:34.840 fire batoom fatah and so right? But like, if you 267 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.279 were comedic at hockey, people would think you're not taking 268 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:40.000 it seriously. Oh yeah, And if you were too serious 269 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:42.080 in a comedic role, people would think that you're not 270 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.399 getting it right. So I I agree. I love that 271 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.679 you have an interest in theater. I love that you 272 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.159 have an interest in sports. I love that you have 273 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.480 an interest in academics. I love to have an interest 274 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:55.080 in video games. I just love you, man. I think 275 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:55.879 you're a great dude. 276 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.480 And I love everyone who listens to this podcast and 277 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.600 everyone in this world, because everyone has some talent and 278 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.840 even if they don't think they have talent, You guys 279 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.360 all have talent. You guys are all awesome. 280 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:11.480 That's actually true. I think everyone has talent and those 281 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.879 who feel like they don't have talent just have not 282 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:19.080 found the right place to utilize their talent. I mean, 283 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:25.279 it probably took me thirty years to find the perfect 284 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:29.320 job for me, and the job I have requires like 285 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.879 a smidge of talent. Is it's a very unique skill set. 286 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:36.000 It nique skill it is, but it's it's appropriate for 287 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.879 what it is and right. And there's other people who 288 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:43.720 write like there's there's some teachers who have a lot 289 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.480 of patience and that's amazing, and then there's other teachers 290 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.559 who don't have a lot of patients but are really 291 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.600 good at holding people accountable. And there's room for everyone. 292 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.200 And I think that's what's great about the Penguin Project 293 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:59.799 is it shows there's talent out there in everyone, and 294 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.799 the Penguin Project, I think does a great job of 295

00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.599 bringing that out of everyone. Yeah, and really putting the 296 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:09.720 spotlight upon intended on those who deserve an opportunity who 297 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:10.480 might not get it. 298 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:14.000 Elsewise, because everyone deserves a chance to fly and shine 299 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.359 good because it's a musical too. 300 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:22.279 Oh nice, that was a deep cut. Speaking of deep cuts, 301 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:28.440 a neuro FM deep cut is known as the fun 302 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:31.000 fact of the day. What do you have for us? 303 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:36.880 All right? Did you know that the first Lego product 304 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:38.799 ever created was a wooden duck? 305 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.160 A wooden duck and like not a rubber one. So 306 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:44.279 Lego does not make floatation devices. 307 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.759 Well, they have made floating Lego pieces. Another fun fact. 308 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.359 Okay, that's true. Like when I was your age, I 309 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.880 had a Lego ship and it it it It did 310 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.759 float until it took on water and then it sank. 311 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.119 So so for the first five minutes it was definitely 312 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.720 a ship, and then for the rest of its duration 313 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:10.440 it was an unintended submarine. Yeah, but so so wooden ducks. 314 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:15.799 Yes, then the first Now this is the final phone fact, 315 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.759 not fantastic final, but hey whatever. 316 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:29.759 Float your boat or your wooden duck. Probably made a cedar, good, 317 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:32.200 a good poplar, maybe some press board. I don't know 318 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:37.440 what is it? Is Lego from Scandinavia, No, it's from Denmark. Denmark. 319 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:38.400 Another fact? 320 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.920 What kind of wood do they have in Denmark? Like 321 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.279 the den trees? I don't know the trees of gargoyles. 322 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:46.519 I don't know, I don't know. 323 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:49.200 But the final fun facts. 324 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:50.240 Yeah, the triple f as you. 325 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:55.559 Said, yes, it is the first female mini figure was 326 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:56.079 a nurse. 327 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.440 Huh. I had no idea. 328 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.960 Neither the yeah until now. 329 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:08.079 Okay, so even you didn't know. Yeah, crazy, this is 330 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:10.720 going off the rails. You know what? Why are you sorry? 331 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:14.000 I don't know of an episode we've done that stayed 332 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:16.759 on the rails. This is kind of our thing, you're right. 333 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.640 Unlike theater, this is not scripted. No, and we don't 334 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:27.759 know what star Lord is gonna say, so we should 335 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:32.000 and with a nice final word, what's the how do 336 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:37.960 you want to end us here? Goodbye, goodbye, good night 337 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:41.480 and all the other things. Thank you, thank you, thank 338 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:46.759 you FM NG Yeah, thank you for listening to neuro FM. 339 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:50.240 That's Jonathan. I'm Jeremy. If you want to get in touch, 340 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.640 send a message Jeremy at neuro fm. Also check out 341 00:19:54.640 --> 00:20:00.279 our presenting a sponsor Neurofam at neurofam dot com. Who 342 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:02.160 until next time. 343 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:02.839 Bye. 344 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:09.319 Thank you for listening to the neurofm podcast. Please remember 345 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:15.599 to like, subscribe, rate, and review. Your participation really does help. Also, 346 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:21.839 please check out our presenting sponsor Neurofam at neurofam dot com. 347 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:22.319 Thank you,