บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Actually, the 'G' is Silent

remember my piece, the baby's sleeping. 00:04:25.855 --> 00:04:30.255 And then when you got closer, it wasn't. The baby was awake and it wasn't a baby. 00:04:30.515 --> 00:04:32.895 Remember? That was my piece from the 80s. 00:04:34.075 --> 00:04:37.175 Yes, absolutely. How could I forget? I mean, that was one of the most famous 00:04:37.175 --> 00:04:44.635 and provocative pieces in confused art history. um i just yeah i i i and for 00:04:44.635 --> 00:04:46.835 me and the babe so it wasn't a human baby correct 00:04:46.835 --> 00:04:50.515 No no no that's too on the nose you know we've seen those babies those babies 00:04:50.515 --> 00:04:54.515 they're still everywhere yeah it's boring you know that's not art right no it 00:04:54.515 --> 00:04:58.075 was a it was a tiny cat that i had found okay 00:04:58.075 --> 00:05:04.355 Got it got it got it cool right and you had shaved it to make it look more human-like 00:05:04.355 --> 00:05:05.895 and that caused controversy 00:05:05.895 --> 00:05:09.695 That caused controversy i was on day one for months pita was up my butt you 00:05:09.695 --> 00:05:11.955 know and i I just said, you know, I'm not doing this. And then that's when I 00:05:11.955 --> 00:05:13.395 retreated. And now here I am again. 00:05:13.615 --> 00:05:18.015 Right. But I just appreciate, you know, we have not seen each other in forever because of high school. 00:05:18.195 --> 00:05:20.575 And when I put out that mass thing on Facebook saying, you know, 00:05:20.675 --> 00:05:22.415 like, I'm an artist. Come see me in the Catskills. 00:05:22.635 --> 00:05:25.395 The fact that you came, Miko, right? Miko? 00:05:26.497 --> 00:05:29.537 Yeah. Miko is my name. Yes. Um, absolutely. 00:05:29.617 --> 00:05:32.857 And it's still, it's still my name and you kind of like brush past because high 00:05:32.857 --> 00:05:34.637 school, but I did want to double click on that. 00:05:34.757 --> 00:05:37.257 Um, just cause a lot did happen in those. 00:05:37.857 --> 00:05:40.757 Yeah. Yeah. Just a lot happened between us in those four years. 00:05:40.997 --> 00:05:45.137 Um, the first of which was you would just, you just were riding me on my name. 00:05:45.617 --> 00:05:48.817 Uh, you did not like that. I was named Miko because you said it should have 00:05:48.817 --> 00:05:53.377 been, it should either be Miko or Nick or Mick, but Miko was not allowed. 00:05:54.097 --> 00:05:57.117 Um, And I want to apologize for that. 00:05:57.277 --> 00:06:00.777 That was before the sense of art took over the lens of who I am. 00:06:01.157 --> 00:06:05.617 But yeah, you know, a young dumber me would say like, yeah, Miko's a dumb, 00:06:05.757 --> 00:06:08.597 like dumber me, younger me would be like, Miko's a dumb name. 00:06:08.737 --> 00:06:14.197 You're so dumb. Right. Right. I remember I would be like, you're so dumb. And then I know. 00:06:14.277 --> 00:06:14.737 No, I remember. 00:06:15.437 --> 00:06:20.037 Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. But now Miko's a cool name. Miko is that's on my that's 00:06:20.037 --> 00:06:21.577 me. You know, I was going through some something. 00:06:22.797 --> 00:06:26.577 No I appreciate you saying that yeah sorry go ahead no 00:06:26.577 --> 00:06:29.637 I just feel like we had some good times that's why I'm happy to see you what 00:06:29.637 --> 00:06:31.917 else do you remember from high school I couldn't have been that bad 00:06:31.917 --> 00:06:34.797 Well no it wasn't I 00:06:34.797 --> 00:06:37.557 mean we did yeah I mean um you were my first kiss 00:06:37.557 --> 00:06:40.217 I don't know if you knew that at the time uh you kind of 00:06:40.217 --> 00:06:42.917 bullied me um incessantly and then I was obsessed with 00:06:42.917 --> 00:06:46.057 you because you were mean to me um and you 00:06:46.057 --> 00:06:48.757 know by senior year we kissed and you said you don't know what 00:06:48.757 --> 00:06:52.457 you're doing and i was like i yeah i'm sorry and then we never that was kind 00:06:52.457 --> 00:06:55.897 of it which which left a scarring impression on me but it was my first kiss 00:06:55.897 --> 00:06:59.757 so i didn't know what i should be doing you know what i mean just to kind of 00:06:59.757 --> 00:07:02.537 in my own defense that's part of the reason why i wanted to come here i didn't 00:07:02.537 --> 00:07:06.017 know what i was doing i wanted to tell you that i'm not actually a bad kisser 00:07:06.017 --> 00:07:08.477 now you know what i mean yeah 00:07:08.477 --> 00:07:12.797 Wow where do you live now that you came all the way to the Catskills to tell me this. 00:07:13.957 --> 00:07:16.357 No, I'm downtown. I'm downtown. 00:07:16.817 --> 00:07:19.177 Downtown Catskill? Catskill downtown? I'm downtown. 00:07:21.213 --> 00:07:27.013 Yeah, I'm in downtown Catskills. It's a great new area. They kind of converted some. 00:07:27.533 --> 00:07:29.873 Oh, Virginia. Nice. 00:07:30.193 --> 00:07:31.553 Oh, that's actually. 00:07:32.733 --> 00:07:34.013 It's actually, it's Virginia. 00:07:35.733 --> 00:07:36.093 Hmm. 00:07:36.953 --> 00:07:38.133 But it's spelled Virginia. 00:07:39.313 --> 00:07:42.253 Well, that's the whole irony of it, you know, is that like, what is a G, 00:07:42.553 --> 00:07:44.813 you know? Is it, is a G a person? Is a G a thing? 00:07:45.013 --> 00:07:48.293 A G is a force that we don't really need because Virginia is no more. 00:07:48.893 --> 00:07:53.053 Well, G, a G is a force, I think. Like it's for speed, right? 00:07:53.653 --> 00:07:57.993 So, you know, how many G's when you go up in an airplane? A G is a force. 00:07:58.293 --> 00:08:00.153 I'm confused. I'm so confused. 00:08:00.893 --> 00:08:02.613 We have a college professor here? Yes. 00:08:03.233 --> 00:08:06.153 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I teach at downtown state. 00:08:06.993 --> 00:08:07.393 Oh. 00:08:08.313 --> 00:08:08.633 Downtown state. 00:08:09.213 --> 00:08:17.133 Yeah, I teach at downtown state. I teach art history and art future down in, so. 00:08:18.033 --> 00:08:21.313

What's art future? Can you tell me about art future? What does that mean exactly? 00:08:21.553 --> 00:08:25.593 The future of art? Yeah, where it's going, where we think it's going. 00:08:26.373 --> 00:08:29.153 I teach people, how do you see the future? 00:08:30.233 --> 00:08:36.433 And I thought Virginia was a part of that, but I'm a little confused that it's 00:08:36.433 --> 00:08:37.993 pronounced Ver-hin-ya? 00:08:39.373 --> 00:08:40.413 So like Spanish? 00:08:40.973 --> 00:08:47.873 If I can interrupt, and I will. I think that art, I feel like you are in the art pool with me. 00:08:48.613 --> 00:08:50.133 That's your perspective. You 00:08:50.133 --> 00:08:52.233 know what I mean? That's where you're coming from. That's your journey. 00:08:53.393 --> 00:08:58.753 You are there now here and where I'm at. That's where I am. You know, that's where 00:08:58.753 --> 00:09:00.213 We are where we are. 00:09:00.713 --> 00:09:01.133 Yeah. 00:09:01.533 --> 00:09:01.893 Yeah. 00:09:02.253 --> 00:09:05.553 And by the way, this is my friend Miko. We went to high school together and 00:09:05.553 --> 00:09:07.513 he lives out in Catskill. Yeah. 00:09:07.833 --> 00:09:09.073 No, sorry. It's a Miko. 00:09:10.093 --> 00:09:11.393 Man, I don't get it. 00:09:13.219 --> 00:09:16.059 It's just a name you don't have to there's nothing to get in a name you know 00:09:16.059 --> 00:09:18.599 it's not like uh just a name it's greek actually 00:09:18.599 --> 00:09:24.779 You're trying to be art so oh like micopolis is it short you can think about yeah if 00:09:24.779 --> 00:09:26.279 You if you'd like to think that way yeah 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.679 I do and i want to think that way and i will think that way okay wow 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.639 Okay okay you seem like you are 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.039 you in a good mood buddy because you seem like you don't want to be here 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.919 I i am in probably you're probably catching me in the best mood i've ever been 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.379 in in my life. I'm not going to lie. This is me. 00:09:42.379 --> 00:09:43.419 This is me at my best. 00:09:44.319 --> 00:09:45.239 Go ahead. 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:46.479 Take me to a deli slicer. 00:09:46.839 --> 00:09:52.739 You're a guy who set out to be an artist and then you didn't get any of your work curated 00:09:52.739 --> 00:09:54.699 Or exhibited like this woman. 00:09:54.859 --> 00:09:58.679 And now you're a bitter professor teaching the youth how to hate themselves. 00:09:58.899 --> 00:10:03.119 I've never even drawn a line. I don't do art. I just study it. 00:10:04.119 --> 00:10:07.039 I critique it without having ever done it 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:12.299 i have the most space from it to be able to observe it are you with me are you 00:10:12.299 --> 00:10:17.059 following i follow i don't know when i see something like virginia or excuse 00:10:17.059 --> 00:10:24.479 me virginia uh you're welcome uh i'm confused you know you know your 00:10:24.479 --> 00:10:28.119 Confusion can go so i'm not appreciating this vibe you know we're part you're 00:10:28.119 --> 00:10:31.659 trying to put out a really beautiful a beautiful celebration of art. 00:10:31.899 --> 00:10:35.119 And then you come in here, grumpy dumpster, and I don't appreciate it. 00:10:35.199 --> 00:10:35.919 And I'm going to go there. 00:10:36.019 --> 00:10:39.919 And this is, you know, Miko, I'm getting a little upset right now because this 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:41.759 is something I poured my heart into. Yeah. 00:10:42.699 --> 00:10:45.559 I know. Absolutely. And I'm here to support you. I only ask that you don't take 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:49.179 your emotions out on me like you did in high school. 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:52.479 And I will also say that this man is confused. 00:10:52.779 --> 00:10:56.859 And as we discussed earlier, the world is confused, but you are not. 00:10:56.999 --> 00:10:59.619 And that is very clear in your work. So I think you're doing everything right. 00:10:59.719 --> 00:11:03.779 Am I supposed to be confused? Is this confused art? Sorry. Is this confusion art? 00:11:06.476 --> 00:11:08.816 Yeah, you hit it on the head. It is confusion art. 00:11:09.136 --> 00:11:14.556 Now what? I am so sorry. I am so sorry. I came in. I thought this was postmodernism. 00:11:14.916 --> 00:11:17.256 I thought this was some sort of futurism. 00:11:18.176 --> 00:11:22.696 It's confusion art. And I apologize. I apologize about that. 00:11:23.236 --> 00:11:26.296 I am so sorry. This is fantastic. 00:11:26.656 --> 00:11:26.856 That's awesome. 00:11:27.296 --> 00:11:30.576 Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. And that's what I want to evoke. And if it takes 00:11:30.576 --> 00:11:34.776 two to four minutes and an angry person to come in, berate me, berate an old friend, 00:11:34.956 --> 00:11:37.936 not understand things, hate their life not even want to be involved or invested 00:11:37.936 --> 00:11:41.916 in what they studied to realize that they like my art then that's why we do 00:11:41.916 --> 00:11:44.616 it you know that's why we do it you've 00:11:44.616 --> 00:11:50.756 Changed me i want to try art now i never wanted to try it until now i want to see 00:11:50.756 --> 00:11:55.036 My thin slice was correct i think actually it's more correct than incorrect is what i would say 00:11:55.036 --> 00:11:57.936 No you were you were pretty off all right 00:11:57.936 --> 00:12:00.996 When i was younger miko kissed me weird go ahead 00:12:05.760 --> 00:12:12.500 Thank you, Jen. Thank you, George. Next up, the amazing, the hilarious Monique Moses and Alex Fernie. 00:12:12.940 --> 00:12:16.120 Fernie, at this point, I think he's a UCB LA icon. 00:12:16.420 --> 00:12:22.540 I mean, amazing performer and teacher, one third of the infamous improv team, Convoy at the UCB LA. 00:12:22.780 --> 00:12:25.560 As a director, he's worked on shows like Children's Hospital, 00:12:25.680 --> 00:12:30.360 Bajillion Dollar Properties, Last

Week Tonight, and The Hot Wives of Las Vegas. 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.220 He's also created pilots for FX, Amazon, Comedy Central, AMC. 00:12:35.400 --> 00:12:39.240 He's appeared on Reno 911, Conan, Comedy Bang Bang, Key and Peele. 00:12:39.760 --> 00:12:42.880 And, you know, goddamn, he's just a really good dude. 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:48.480 And I haven't told him this, but I've seen him many times coming out of Trader 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.300 Joe's, crossing the street. 00:12:50.460 --> 00:12:53.360 As I sit there at the light, I just dropped my kids off at school. 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:57.700 I have not once rolled down the damn window to yell hello at him, 00:12:58.220 --> 00:13:02.440 and that's on me, and I want to publicly apologize for that. 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:07.280 Monique Moses, I love Mo. I mean, she's part of one of my favorite sketch and 00:13:07.280 --> 00:13:09.320 improv teams of all time, Astronomy Club. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:14.320 You've heard me rant about their Netflix sketch show being canceled in past 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:17.940 episodes, but please go check that out if you haven't. She was also the co-head 00:13:17.940 --> 00:13:22.560 writer of a Black Lady sketch show on HBO. She was a writer on the Big Mouth 00:13:22.560 --> 00:13:23.840 spinoff, Human Resources. 00:13:24.220 --> 00:13:28.640 I had the honor of coaching Mo back in the day and always made me crack up. 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.120 And I'm really excited for this one. It's a super fun one. 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.680 Let's get to our second mutter with Alex Fernie and Monique Moses. 00:13:39.040 --> 00:13:41.000 So which one is yours? 00:13:43.540 --> 00:13:45.200 Actually, the G is silent. 00:13:52.325 --> 00:13:57.185 I'll try again. So which one is yours? 00:13:58.005 --> 00:14:03.005 I still hear the G. It's a fully silent G. 00:14:03.365 --> 00:14:07.985 Well, I'm trying my hardest. This is how I talk. This is what the accent sounds 00:14:07.985 --> 00:14:09.245 like. Which one is yours? 00:14:10.245 --> 00:14:14.145 I know, but it's just so hard. I'm a bit of a stickler for these sorts of things. 00:14:14.405 --> 00:14:18.505 You know, God made language for a reason, and I want to make sure that we do it the way he wanted. 00:14:19.225 --> 00:14:24.925 so the g just don't even just forget the letter g exists for a little for just 00:14:24.925 --> 00:14:28.685 for a moment just try one more time eddie 00:14:28.685 --> 00:14:32.465 I don't understand why i can't just be myself there are people out there who 00:14:32.465 --> 00:14:37.865 like who like actresses who are like from from around the way do you know what 00:14:37.865 --> 00:14:42.725 i mean like absolutely you don't have to try to coach me out of sounding the way i normally sound. 00:14:42.725 --> 00:14:46.225 I understand I just don't know 00:14:46.225 --> 00:14:50.145 if it's the fan base you want so what we want to do is just kind of like 00:14:51.525 --> 00:14:56.905

iron out any personality in you we want to make you a blank slate that people 00:14:56.905 --> 00:15:02.505 can project their loves, their concerns their issues onto, that's how you build a star baby 00:15:03.765 --> 00:15:04.165 Whatever, 00:15:06.725 --> 00:15:10.105 I'm thirsty you got any boxed drinks. 00:15:10.565 --> 00:15:12.705 Yeah I got a bunch of boxes but I got to tell you right now, 00:15:12.885 --> 00:15:13.805 okay, this is another thing. 00:15:14.205 --> 00:15:17.265 Never be thirsty in public, all right? Don't say it, don't drink, 00:15:17.425 --> 00:15:19.285 because people don't like that. People don't like to see a woman drink. 00:15:19.685 --> 00:15:21.245 Oh, but I love to be hydrated. 00:15:21.585 --> 00:15:25.045 I know you do. We're going to have to do those gels, I guess, 00:15:25.205 --> 00:15:28.885 that marathon runners do or something like that, because it's just not – you 00:15:28.885 --> 00:15:30.405 want to be a star, right? You want to be a star? 00:15:30.565 --> 00:15:34.265 I do, Eddie. Oh, my God. Ever since I was a little girl, I wanted to be a star. 00:15:34.785 --> 00:15:38.205 Then we got to make you someone that when people look at you, 00:15:38.585 --> 00:15:40.445 they see and feel nothing. 00:15:43.152 --> 00:15:45.032 Hollywood is so harsh. 00:15:45.632 --> 00:15:47.072 It's tough, but that's what the algorithm wants. 00:15:49.272 --> 00:15:50.952 Eddie, when did you stop managing? 00:15:52.492 --> 00:15:53.472 Legally or this way? 00:15:54.492 --> 00:15:58.532 I don't know. It's all new to me. When did you become a manager? 00:15:59.672 --> 00:16:05.232 78, 89, 10 years off when I was upstate. Back in 99, 99 to 2001. 00:16:05.232 --> 00:16:07.972 We all got shaken up in 2001, so I stopped for a little while. 00:16:08.112 --> 00:16:12.292 And then I got back into it in 2021 because people weren't doing it because 00:16:12.292 --> 00:16:14.732 of the pandemic. And I was like, well, I don't mind. I'll go anywhere. 00:16:15.072 --> 00:16:17.052 So you're like an intermittent manager. 00:16:17.652 --> 00:16:18.472 Intermittent manager. 00:16:18.952 --> 00:16:20.772 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 00:16:21.132 --> 00:16:25.972 And so I've seen all these people come and go. Right. Like I worked with Julia 00:16:25.972 --> 00:16:28.252 Roberts right before Pretty Woman. 00:16:28.492 --> 00:16:34.992 Julia Roberts right before Pretty Woman when she was an attractive teen. Yeah. 00:16:35.412 --> 00:16:37.212 Yeah. I've worked with a lot of attractive teens. 00:16:37.632 --> 00:16:38.592 Wow. Wow. 00:16:40.334 --> 00:16:42.674 Oh, my goodness. I'm a big fan of hers. 00:16:42.994 --> 00:16:47.534 Oh, she was great. She was so, so great. She was the best. Before Pretty Woman, 00:16:47.674 --> 00:16:50.494 she would just be out there and you'd be like, that's an attractive person. 00:16:51.054 --> 00:16:54.514 No matter what you thought or felt, you'd be like, I bet she feels the same 00:16:54.514 --> 00:16:56.954 way. And that's when she took off, right? 00:16:57.194 --> 00:16:59.834 Yeah, I heard her original voice is like froggish. 00:17:00.294 --> 00:17:01.114 You really like 00:17:01.114 --> 00:17:02.554 Coached her out of that. 00:17:03.034 --> 00:17:07.774 And not like what you think of like croaky, not croaky, but her original voice 00:17:07.774 --> 00:17:10.454 was like Michigan J froggish, right? Like, hello, am I married? 00:17:10.594 --> 00:17:11.814 Like, that's what she sounded like. 00:17:11.874 --> 00:17:13.194 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Wow. 00:17:13.214 --> 00:17:15.994 People don't want that. People don't want that in Mary Riley. 00:17:17.594 --> 00:17:19.714 Wow. Yeah, I want to be a big star. 00:17:20.054 --> 00:17:23.794 You're going to be. We're going to take you all the way to the top. 00:17:23.914 --> 00:17:26.654 So just repeat after me. We want to get some lines down that you just really 00:17:26.654 --> 00:17:30.674 kind of get real comfortable saying, okay? Ready? Try this. Repeat after me. 00:17:30.974 --> 00:17:31.214 Okay. 00:17:31.794 --> 00:17:32.814 That's so funny. 00:17:33.594 --> 00:17:34.754 That's so funny. 00:17:35.794 --> 00:17:38.914 Hmm. So I think you said funny like it was an AU. 00:17:39.574 --> 00:17:40.974 What? No. 00:17:41.734 --> 00:17:44.154 You said it like F-A-U-N-N-Y. 00:17:44.254 --> 00:17:45.174 That's so funny. 00:17:46.514 --> 00:17:47.474 It got worse. 00:17:47.934 --> 00:17:48.374 What? 00:17:48.914 --> 00:17:50.194 The way you're saying it got worse. 00:17:50.554 --> 00:17:54.474 I'm just emphasizing funny because when people say something's funny, 00:17:54.614 --> 00:17:56.214 it's because you're laughing at it. 00:17:56.374 --> 00:18:00.054 So a laugh is in the word. That's so funny. 00:18:01.654 --> 00:18:02.754 That's how you laugh? 00:18:03.014 --> 00:18:03.374 Yeah. 00:18:03.974 --> 00:18:08.634 Huh. Okay, I'm going to jot that down because that's more than we have time 00:18:08.634 --> 00:18:11.934 for today. but that's definitely something we'll take a look at. 00:18:12.314 --> 00:18:14.074 Eddie, it makes me personable. 00:18:14.734 --> 00:18:17.814 No one wants personable. No one wants personable. 00:18:18.034 --> 00:18:23.974 They want the personality of a recently flipped into an Airbnb apartment, right? 00:18:24.314 --> 00:18:27.694 Like gray floors, gray countertops, gray cupboards. 00:18:28.194 --> 00:18:29.114 Wow. Okay. 00:18:29.934 --> 00:18:30.514 Ugh. Ugh. 00:18:32.386 --> 00:18:35.486 This being a public personality thing is so hard. 00:18:35.786 --> 00:18:40.566 It's hard. It's hard. What's your dream project? What's your dream role to play? 00:18:40.846 --> 00:18:47.026 Oh, my God, Eddie. You know, have you ever seen Fried Green Tomatoes? 00:18:47.386 --> 00:18:47.926 Yes. 00:18:48.246 --> 00:18:52.986 Not that. I want a movie just filled with babies. 00:18:53.386 --> 00:18:57.366 Like, it's not a bunch of middle-aged women, but it's like babies and me. 00:18:58.066 --> 00:19:00.006 Like

the animated movie Storks. 00:19:01.366 --> 00:19:06.226 I never saw that I think the way the birds fly Freaked me out. 00:19:06.226 --> 00:19:09.566 And to be fair there were more storks and babies in that movie But there were a lot 00:19:09.566 --> 00:19:15.646 Of babies But it was like babies Or you ever seen the movie Inside Out The emotions, 00:19:17.506 --> 00:19:19.866 I wouldn't want to be in that No. 00:19:20.686 --> 00:19:23.646 I don't remember a single baby in there No 00:19:23.646 --> 00:19:26.026 Just storks like the movie Storks. 00:19:26.026 --> 00:19:29.026 I'm really wracking my brain for a movie with a lot of babies in it And it's 00:19:29.026 --> 00:19:31.606 harder than I can come up with like a movie with two babies. 00:19:32.306 --> 00:19:34.086 Yeah, there's a movie called Look Who's Talking. 00:19:34.746 --> 00:19:39.266 And Look Who's Talking 2 has both. And then Babies Day Out is one baby. 00:19:39.686 --> 00:19:42.886 Yeah, I want a movie just filled the full like field of dreams, 00:19:42.906 --> 00:19:46.766 but for babies. If you baby, it'll come, you know? 00:19:47.306 --> 00:19:49.526 And what would your role? Would you be one of the babies? 00:19:50.086 --> 00:19:50.486 No. 00:19:51.166 --> 00:19:51.386 No. 00:19:51.386 --> 00:19:54.026 That's silly, Eddie. Come on. Take this seriously. 00:19:54.346 --> 00:19:58.666 I am taking this seriously. Very seriously. Oh, God. Awful. 00:20:00.526 --> 00:20:01.966 Take it seriously. 00:20:03.346 --> 00:20:09.066 Knock knock sorry Miss Scamucci we'll need you in like five minutes on set okay 00:20:09.066 --> 00:20:15.786 Of course thank you can I ask you a question have you ever seen fried green 00:20:15.786 --> 00:20:20.566 tomatoes yeah the movie not just the. 00:20:20.566 --> 00:20:22.626 Fruit oh yeah yeah yeah 00:20:22.626 --> 00:20:27.126 If that was filled with babies would you watch it. 00:20:30.255 --> 00:20:34.475 I'm going to be honest with you. I've only seen the fruit. I'm sorry. I lied. 00:20:35.355 --> 00:20:39.735 Well, it still answers the question. If that fried green fruit was still filled 00:20:39.735 --> 00:20:41.455 with babies, would you watch it? 00:20:42.935 --> 00:20:43.855 Absolutely. I mean. 00:20:44.055 --> 00:20:44.635 Yeah, me too. 00:20:44.755 --> 00:20:48.315 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If there was a bunch of babies eating fried green tomatoes. 00:20:48.615 --> 00:20:53.795 No, no, no. You're not listening to me. If the fried green tomatoes themselves 00:20:53.795 --> 00:20:58.095 were filled with babies, would you watch it? It's a clear question. 00:21:00.235 --> 00:21:03.235 Uh yeah i think i would that'd be pretty amazing yeah 00:21:03.235 --> 00:21:03.855 I'd watch everyone 00:21:03.855 --> 00:21:07.535 I don't think i could not see it you know what i mean like if yeah if i was 00:21:07.535 --> 00:21:12.895 walking down the street and that that was there i would obviously be looking at that yeah 00:21:12.895 --> 00:21:14.615 Okay i think there's

something to it 00:21:14.615 --> 00:21:19.515 Can i ask why no okay all right well see on set in five minutes 00:21:21.556 --> 00:21:24.536 Eddie, you're so mean to PAs. Why are you so mean to PAs? 00:21:24.656 --> 00:21:26.636 They like it. They wouldn't be a PA if they didn't want that. 00:21:26.856 --> 00:21:28.036 It's like a sex thing for them. 00:21:28.576 --> 00:21:29.256 No way. 00:21:29.996 --> 00:21:30.356 Absolutely. 00:21:31.056 --> 00:21:33.596 Every PA I met has been an absolute grade A pervert. 00:21:34.776 --> 00:21:38.976 That's crazy. Well, I've only met a couple, so I'm going to take your word for 00:21:38.976 --> 00:21:41.556 it. You've been in the business intermittently for so long. 00:21:41.656 --> 00:21:44.716 So long. Absolutely. The ones you have to watch out for are the ones who don't 00:21:44.716 --> 00:21:47.936 read as perverts right away because that means they're pushing it down successfully, 00:21:47.936 --> 00:21:49.016 and that's more dangerous. 00:21:49.836 --> 00:21:50.196 Crazy. 00:21:50.736 --> 00:21:55.216 Okay, so we have five minutes to change your entire personality, voice, and look. So... 00:21:57.696 --> 00:22:03.476 Thanks, Fernie. Thanks, Mo. Last up, we got a blast from the UCB past with Greg 00:22:03.476 --> 00:22:09.136 Tucholescu and a blast into the future with Hilary Ann Matthews. 00:22:09.896 --> 00:22:13.356 I don't know what I'm talking about. But Tucholescu, he was on one of my favorite 00:22:13.356 --> 00:22:16.376 improv teams of all time. They were a Herald team. 00:22:16.496 --> 00:22:20.716 They were called Fwand. Uh, they were very infamous for doing like high energy, 00:22:20.916 --> 00:22:24.376 thematic, aggressive shows. He might not remember this, but he coached me a 00:22:24.376 --> 00:22:26.736 few times when I really sucked at improv. 00:22:27.076 --> 00:22:33.556 That was fun. Uh, writer and executive producer of Adam ruins everything, bad thoughts. 00:22:33.736 --> 00:22:35.896 He was a showrunner forever for drunk history. 00:22:36.216 --> 00:22:41.676 Uh, maybe you've seen him acting in house of lies, playing house, curb your house. 00:22:41.816 --> 00:22:47.136 No curb, your enthusiasm, uh, Kroll show, key and peel, the movie bridesmaids. 00:22:47.136 --> 00:22:49.976 the movie I Love You Men. Ever heard of them? 00:22:50.596 --> 00:22:55.996 Hilary Ann Matthews, actress and phenomenal improviser based here in Los Angeles. 00:22:55.996 --> 00:23:00.936 She's rocking out the prov with Queen George and Sentimental Lady at the UCB in LA. 00:23:01.376 --> 00:23:05.116 Right when I moved to LA, I got a Torco gig in San Francisco at 00:23:06.397 --> 00:23:09.917 Uh, that's where I met Hillary. We met at the airport at like 5 AM. 00:23:10.117 --> 00:23:16.017 We were literally, I think in San Francisco for like, uh, about 24 hours only. 00:23:16.357 --> 00:23:19.577 Um, and either she or someone else had to do a workshop like earlier. 00:23:19.717 --> 00:23:22.577 So that's why

we had to get there early. So we just kind of like hung out in 00:23:22.577 --> 00:23:26.917 San Francisco for most of the day. Walked around, ate, uh, pretty sure it was my first time there. 00:23:27.257 --> 00:23:32.657 Anywho, the show was that night. My memory was the, no students really showed up for this show. 00:23:32.717 --> 00:23:35.857 And then they like also didn't tell us that we were on. So someone like rushed 00:23:35.857 --> 00:23:39.397 back and was like, everyone's waiting for you. And we're like, what? Okay. 00:23:40.437 --> 00:23:44.897 We had a good time on stage. But you know, one of those standard Torco experiences. 00:23:44.897 --> 00:23:49.957 I think we went to a weed shop after, had to drive and stay at a budget motel 00:23:49.957 --> 00:23:53.137 in Oakland to take another 5 a.m. flight or something the next day. 00:23:53.417 --> 00:23:56.617 Anywho, maybe you've seen Hillary on Ghosts, Abbott Elementary. 00:23:56.957 --> 00:24:01.677 She was recurring on Modern Family and Future Man. She was a regular on Alex Inc. 00:24:02.357 --> 00:24:07.657 So let's get to our final mutter. It's with Greg Tucholescu and Hilary Ann Matthews. 00:24:11.357 --> 00:24:13.197 So which one is yours? 00:24:14.877 --> 00:24:17.277 Actually, the G is silent. 00:24:19.423 --> 00:24:22.723 Oh, okay. Interesting. 00:24:23.223 --> 00:24:29.383 That's so, wow. Yeah, I see. Yeah. That's the title of the art piece. 00:24:29.543 --> 00:24:30.783 Actually, the G is silent. 00:24:31.783 --> 00:24:33.283 Yes, that is correct. 00:24:33.923 --> 00:24:37.763 Wow. Yeah. Oh my God. So many. 00:24:39.723 --> 00:24:42.503 Sorry. What an embarrassing thing to say. 00:24:42.503 --> 00:24:46.043 You see that it's a capital, it's a capital letter G. 00:24:46.663 --> 00:24:47.143 Yes. 00:24:47.643 --> 00:24:50.723 And the title of the piece is the G is silent. 00:24:51.323 --> 00:24:55.983 Yeah. And I can't help, I mean, obviously it's the, if you're, 00:24:56.063 --> 00:24:59.963 if you're standing far away from it, as I first was when I entered the gallery, 00:25:00.263 --> 00:25:05.803 it, it does just look like a kind of textured capital letter G. 00:25:05.803 --> 00:25:10.923 But then as you get closer to it, I now see that there are, it is like the formation 00:25:10.923 --> 00:25:18.943 of a woman or women, like their body parts and faces within the G. 00:25:18.943 --> 00:25:21.023 I'm so glad you noticed that, Vivian. Yeah. I'm so glad you noticed. 00:25:21.263 --> 00:25:24.143 You were the person that I really wanted to impress the most. 00:25:24.823 --> 00:25:25.703 Oh, seriously? 00:25:26.023 --> 00:25:28.043 And you saw what I wanted you to see. 00:25:28.403 --> 00:25:31.583 Oh, that's so nice. I mean, I've only been in the class for two years longer 00:25:31.583 --> 00:25:36.103 than you, you know, so it's not like I'm any kind of professional or anything. but that means a lot. 00:25:37.374 --> 00:25:41.314 Well, I, I, I respect you. I, you know, I, I

follow your sub stack and, 00:25:41.474 --> 00:25:49.094 uh, I, I'm, I'm nervous. Listen to me. I'm, I'm nervous. 00:25:49.314 --> 00:25:53.074 So you saw, uh, you, you've noticed the women, you've noticed the, 00:25:53.214 --> 00:25:57.234 did you notice the nail polish on this, the disembodied arms there? 00:25:57.914 --> 00:26:01.054 Oh yeah. I see that. I see that. Yeah. 00:26:01.634 --> 00:26:03.914 And the feet are multicolored. 00:26:03.914 --> 00:26:06.714 Yes yes so that's 00:26:06.714 --> 00:26:10.014 so the g is silent so it's well what 00:26:10.014 --> 00:26:14.634 i mean what i'm getting as if you were again you you tell me what your headspace 00:26:14.634 --> 00:26:21.414 was when you were um creating it but it seems like you are making a statement 00:26:21.414 --> 00:26:29.594 about the plight of the female in society that's right and kind of also 00:26:30.854 --> 00:26:37.054 about even women of color and and in the multi-colored feet a 00:26:37.054 --> 00:26:38.994 Hundred a hundred percent correct 00:26:38.994 --> 00:26:40.694 You you 00:26:40.694 --> 00:26:42.074 Hit the proverbial nail yeah 00:26:42.074 --> 00:26:49.314 And so can i just say that yeah wow thank you i mean and and so also as as a 00:26:49.314 --> 00:26:54.354 viewer again not anything about you know your intention or headspace when 00:26:54.894 --> 00:27:03.794 kind of creating but um i am left as a woman looking at it with a kind of a dual experience of 00:27:04.993 --> 00:27:08.113 Going, oh my gosh, so wow, allyship, you know? 00:27:08.613 --> 00:27:13.793 And then also, yeah, which I think, yeah, would be probably the intention, 00:27:14.013 --> 00:27:18.753 but also kind of a suspicion, a concern, 00:27:19.033 --> 00:27:26.313 just even if it's a question of, is this person a threat, a wolf in sheep's clothing? 00:27:27.113 --> 00:27:30.053 Oh, goodness, no. You know what, the first part of that statement, 00:27:30.213 --> 00:27:33.213 I was about to pull out my journal and start journaling because I was so happy. 00:27:33.493 --> 00:27:34.733 That's what the wolf would do. 00:27:35.193 --> 00:27:39.993 As you got into the second part of that statement, I got very nervous. 00:27:40.333 --> 00:27:42.553 Yeah, me too. I'm also nervous right now. 00:27:42.833 --> 00:27:48.193 Yeah. Wow. I do not want to come across as a wolf in sheep's clothing. 00:27:48.213 --> 00:27:53.893 That's the thing. The wolf wouldn't want to. The wolf wants to seem like a sheep. 00:27:54.833 --> 00:27:56.373 That's the point of the costume. 00:27:58.213 --> 00:28:03.113 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see that. um well you know i just want you to make 00:28:03.113 --> 00:28:09.213 sure you're uh seeing everything in this painting because it's not just feet and hands um you 00:28:09.213 --> 00:28:11.493 Know no i see the dodgers emblem in the lower left 00:28:11.493 --> 00:28:19.053 Yep yes thank you thank you very much i wanted to make sure you saw that yeah 00:28:19.053 --> 00:28:24.153

Well so but tell me i mean because again that's just my reaction as the audience 00:28:24.153 --> 00:28:31.553 as the viewer so what where what inspired you what was what was up for you when in during the process 00:28:31.553 --> 00:28:34.953 Well you know i was uh i was 00:28:34.953 --> 00:28:38.293 raised by women um uh two 00:28:38.293 --> 00:28:41.513 women um my moms and uh 00:28:41.513 --> 00:28:45.613 you know they uh they they were they 00:28:45.613 --> 00:28:51.353 were in a turbulent relationship let's just say that oh wow you know and i uh 00:28:51.353 --> 00:28:58.993 i feel like i got to know a lot about women and I just wanted to make sure that 00:28:58.993 --> 00:29:02.533 I put you know my experience as 00:29:05.191 --> 00:29:08.631 a man, I suppose, into... 00:29:08.631 --> 00:29:09.991 Why do you say you suppose? 00:29:11.031 --> 00:29:16.371 Well, do we... I mean, these are sort of labels that we put on ourselves and 00:29:16.371 --> 00:29:23.391 that we look forward to, but do we all... Do we really know? 00:29:23.811 --> 00:29:25.771 Do any of us really know? 00:29:26.051 --> 00:29:26.431 Nah. 00:29:27.611 --> 00:29:28.131 Do we? 00:29:28.351 --> 00:29:28.891 Nah. 00:29:30.875 --> 00:29:31.775 I don't think so. 00:29:31.995 --> 00:29:33.475 Me neither. Yeah. 00:29:33.915 --> 00:29:39.295 I don't think so. So I wanted to, you know, the G is silent. 00:29:39.495 --> 00:29:54.975 I just wanted to, I was attempting to make a statement about the female experience 00:29:54.975 --> 00:29:57.095 in our culture. And I just wanted it. 00:29:57.375 --> 00:30:03.675 I was hoping to get closer to more women in my life by doing it. 00:30:04.455 --> 00:30:11.955 Oh, gosh. It's so this is this is honestly this piece is incredible because I feel like I am too. 00:30:12.435 --> 00:30:18.895 I mean, it's like I'm a whole and I'm being ripped apart into I cannot figure out how I feel about it. 00:30:19.155 --> 00:30:22.895 I am like, that is beautiful. You wanted to get closer to women in your life 00:30:22.895 --> 00:30:25.935 that you're trying to speak to the female experience. That's gorgeous. 00:30:26.215 --> 00:30:30.535 And then the other side is saying, danger, danger, we you mayday. 00:30:30.815 --> 00:30:40.935 This person is coming for you and all that you hold dear and and is doing it in an insidious way. 00:30:41.935 --> 00:30:46.375 By saying all the right things, quotation marks, right things. 00:30:46.815 --> 00:30:50.075 But it's it's sinister, you know? 00:30:50.835 --> 00:30:57.815 Yeah. You know what? I want to thank you. For being so honest and open with me. 00:30:58.015 --> 00:30:58.555 You're welcome. 00:30:58.875 --> 00:31:00.115 I really want to thank you. 00:31:00.315 --> 00:31:06.175 Well, what's the point in UCLA extension class of art as adults, 00:31:06.195 --> 00:31:07.935 if we're not being honest with each other? 00:31:07.935 --> 00:31:13.235 I fully agree. I fully agree. And, you know, we were only allowed to bring one piece to this exhibit. 00:31:13.455 --> 00:31:16.115 But this is actually part of a triptych that I did. 00:31:16.555 --> 00:31:22.035 And the other two pieces are at my place. And I'm within walking distance. 00:31:23.055 --> 00:31:25.115 I don't know what you're doing. Thank you. 00:31:26.779 --> 00:31:31.319 After, um, I was just, you know what? I'm sorry. 00:31:31.479 --> 00:31:34.739 And I'm being so soft. I didn't even, we haven't even looked, 00:31:34.879 --> 00:31:36.339 walked over to your piece. 00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:42.339 Oh, okay. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Um, let's just put a pin in whether or 00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:43.919 not I'm going to go with you to a second location. 00:31:45.419 --> 00:31:49.819 Um, but then, but yeah, so this is, this is mine. As you can see, 00:31:50.239 --> 00:31:52.519 um, it is a Lisa Frank dolphin. 00:31:53.819 --> 00:31:54.259 Wow. 00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.079 Yeah. Wow. it's 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.139 A very good copy 00:31:57.139 --> 00:32:00.039 Thank you and it's a so 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.079 i have heard that there's been um like 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:06.279 a re-examination of lisa frank recently and 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.299 this is in snippets of um comments 00:32:10.299 --> 00:32:13.439 that i've seen in tiktok videos of people 00:32:13.439 --> 00:32:17.039 saying oh she's bad um 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:23.519 and i have so i kind of very intentionally didn't look into that at all and 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:29.439 then just drew this um and so it's kind of a comment on our heroes and childhood 00:32:29.439 --> 00:32:34.739 and nostalgia um and um ignorance i'm gonna be truthful 00:32:34.739 --> 00:32:39.959 I'll be truthful right now i don't know who lisa frank is um i just said it 00:32:39.959 --> 00:32:42.819 was a copy because uh it looks stenciled to me 00:32:50.401 --> 00:32:55.381 And thank you to all my guests. Follow Jen Bartels at TheJenBartels on Instagram. 00:32:55.661 --> 00:33:00.821 Check out George Karaman. He's on Hacks. Be on the lookout for Long-Haired Businessman, The Movie. 00:33:01.181 --> 00:33:02.461 That's hopefully coming out 00:33:02.461 --> 00:33:06.541 soon. You can check George on the Instagram as well, at George Karaman. 00:33:06.941 --> 00:33:08.461 Go see Alex Fernie perform with 00:33:08.461 --> 00:33:13.301 Convoy every month at UCB LA and Wildly Appropriate with his wife and kid. 00:33:13.421 --> 00:33:17.921 It's a show for all ages at UCB, and it's for the kiddos with the kiddos. 00:33:17.921 --> 00:33:21.661 and he'll be directing the greatest treasure in the world. So go support that. 00:33:22.021 --> 00:33:25.941 Monique Moses performs at ASCAT in Los Angeles. Astronomy Club will be at the 00:33:25.941 --> 00:33:29.521 Del Close Marathon this year and the Chicago Improv Festival. 00:33:29.781 --> 00:33:33.881 Hilary Ann Matthews, she's on Instagram. And as she says, she rarely posts, 00:33:34.201 --> 00:33:38.121 but go follow her, Hilary Ann Matthews, to see when she does. 00:33:38.361 --> 00:33:44.581 And you can see her at the UCB in LA in Friday Fix with Queen George and Sentimental Lady. 00:33:44.761 --> 00:33:50.961 Greg Chukulescu, he also does not post on Instagram, but go follow him anyway, at Tukalescu. 00:33:51.121 --> 00:33:54.401 Thank you to Seth and Newt for the music and art. 00:33:54.561 --> 00:33:57.941 Thanks to Jared Roberts for submitting today's first two lines. 00:33:57.961 --> 00:34:01.641 If you want to submit your own first two lines to be used in a future episode, 00:34:01.781 --> 00:34:07.041 just like Jared Roberts did, DM me at MutterflyThePod on Instagram or email 00:34:07.041 --> 00:34:09.261 MutterflyThePod at gmail.com. 00:34:09.361 --> 00:34:13.681 We're back next Thursday for an all-new episode of Mutterfly. I am Don Finnelli.