บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ David Starr | Singer-Songwriter, Guitar Shop Owner & Grand Mesa Festival Founder

00:04:15.199 But I figured you got to make a five-year commitment to anything to get it off the ground. 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:16.399 Well, I believe that. 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:17.920 And you're you're three years in. 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:19.279 This was the third year. 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.959 Um uh I don't know how you'd do it any better. 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.120 Uh honest goodness, well, that's good feedback. 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.360 Now, we did not get to every venue. 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:33.839 I hate to tell you that, but it we're we're upstairs at Starz Guitars where we've been doing the interviews, which is so convenient. 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:40.240 And they play a set down there every day in your in your store, which is really cool. 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:42.480 You move the guitar racks out of the way, right? 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.120 And you fit in about 20, 25 chairs. 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:46.240 25. 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:47.680 25 chairs. 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.439 People were standing in the front of the store listening. 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:58.720 Um, the cool thing is that you know, uh, because they're about an hour to an hour and a half set to start with. 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.959 Um, I can listen to a partial set here and move next door. 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.839 Your wife's store, Coming Home, is another one of the venues. 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:06.800 It feels like coming home. 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:07.920 Feels like coming home, excuse me. 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:09.600 That's one of my songs I wrote by. 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:10.160 Oh, okay. 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:11.439 That's where the title came from. 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:11.920 Okay. 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:12.560 Okay. 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:16.639 Well, beautiful store and a cool little back room there. 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.519 Um uh the Pondi is like right next door. 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.519 So those are there, and then the Grand Mesa Arts uh Center. 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.839 We those are the four venues we made it to. 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:29.439 And that's literally out the door and across the street. 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:30.079 Exactly. 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.399 And so it couldn't have been more convenient for us. 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:38.399 The other thing you did for us is that you emailed all these artists on your list and said, Byron and Shender are going to be here. 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:38.639 Right. 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.759 Please, if you're interested, and and it was overwhelming. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:47.839 Well, and and all of us, I'm a songwriter and not traveling tour, and and we're all in the self-promotion business. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:48.240 Sure. 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:57.279 So anybody that doesn't take advantage of that, uh, this opportunity for you guys to come out here and and you know spread the gospel of this sort of thing, I think it's a mistake not to take advantage of it. 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.759 So I'm glad some people jumped in there and did it. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:04.000 Um, we did the same thing with Jeff Fasano, who's a photographer from Nashville. 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.519 He shoots everybody in Nashville, you know, he's good at that. 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:11.279 Um, we've got songwriter uh workshops going on as we speak. 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:18.319 So we tried to tried to do a lot in a very short period of time, but not overwhelm everybody. 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:29.920 But the the the the main thing is, you know, our our catch line is the stories and songs and the and or the let's see, songwriters and the songs and the stories that inspire them, or something I don't have in front of me. 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:36.399 But right the point is it's about the song, and that's why I wanted to have Rodney Crowell, because what a song to my mind, there isn't anybody better. 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:42.160 Oh my gosh, what a talent, and so blessed to have been able to see a little part of that last night. 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:47.600 Um, he I I got to hear my two favorite songs, uh, Stuff That Works. 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:48.240 Yeah. 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:54.319 Um, and and uh and then um uh oh my gosh. 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.560 It's the one about not it ain't over yet. 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:57.120 It ain't over yet. 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:57.759 It ain't over yet. 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:58.480 What a great song. 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.680 Rodney told us at at the song camp last year. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.720 He said, you know, I finished a song and I'm never sure if it's a good one. 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:06.720 He said, I finished that, and I thought that's a good song. 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:07.519 That is such a song. 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:21.519 When I heard it, when I heard it, and I think on the rec on his on his album, isn't didn't didn't uh Roseanne uh John Paul White is on there from the Civil Wars and then uh uh Roseanne Singer as well. 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:22.319 Yeah, his ex-wife. 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:29.680 Yeah, so he told us he envisioned that song as a three-way conversation just sitting around a table with he and and and Susanna and Guy. 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.839 Yeah, and that's that's what that was, you know. 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:32.160 Yeah. 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.000 So uh but that's all right, yeah. 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:42.639 When you know, things like that that I learned when he talked about it being a conversation between three people, I thought, well, that frees me up to think like that as a songwriter. 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.000 It doesn't have to just be me singing to somebody or about somebody. 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.959 So it it just gives it's just opened me up a little bit, and that's the stuff I learned at this kind of an event. 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:57.439 Well, uh yeah, I mean we we we learned a ton and and got

to meet some really cool artists. 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:58.399 Well, I'm glad you were here. 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.920 This is uh, you know, I met you in Red Lodge last year, and that was fun. 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.240 And and uh I thought, well, that's something I want to add. 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:08.000 And of course, since you're coming back next year, we'll uh we'll just do it again. 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:09.040 Well, I love it. 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:16.959 And and honestly, uh, you know, we always we always worry about, well, we've already interviewed that artist, but there's a lot going on in their lives. 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:18.560 There's new music, there's constant. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.879 It might have been a year since you talked to them last year. 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.199 Well, and I and I I would like to have caught up. 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.279 I did visit with Abigail Oakley a little bit. 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.879 I got to interview her in Livingston, one of the first songwriters I actually interviewed. 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.680 And uh what a cool chick she is. 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.679 But uh, we didn't get to re-interview her here since she was just on the voice, yeah. 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:42.240 Um, which we visited a little bit about that story, but at some point uh we we hope to get to sit down with her again. 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:54.480 She told me that was a good experience, you know, because I I've known people that have done those shows who who didn't feel that way, but I think she she she said, I went into it not sure what it was going to be like, but came out of it really feeling pretty good. 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:59.679 Well, she's so talented, she's and and obviously we're young lady from from that experience. 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:10.000 Um uh we we've actually interviewed Sundance Head, who was the winner of The Voice uh a few years ago, but he was on American Idol also 10 years prior to being on The Voice and winning the voice. 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:10.480 Wow. 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.039 And and but totally different experiences. 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:20.960 And we've you know, but there's not the the interesting thing about the voice is that we found out is that when you're done, when they're done with you at the voice, they're done with you. 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:25.360 I I've interviewed some artists that were still have PTSD from that experience. 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:31.759 There she said they moved me out to the airport uh holiday in uh as soon as as soon as I was bye-bye. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:37.759 And and uh but even the winners don't have the I don't think they get the support that they do on American Idol. 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:42.240 It's yeah, I mean those are they're just different, it's just different management styles, I suppose. 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:52.240 And I I I feel like I'm old enough now that that's not something that that would ever

be something I've chased, but uh I think it's work for some people, you know, it's work for Carrie Underwood. 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.320 Oh, worked tremendously and and and oh so many others, you know. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:02.799 Um uh yeah, he he he actually Sundance Head told us he learned how to win after being on American Idol. 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:07.200 He said, I knew, he said, I knew when I got on on the voice I could win this. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:07.679 Yeah. 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:08.960 His voice is incredible. 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:16.720 In fact, I've never seen Chris Stapleton live, but Sundance Head's live vocals are about as strong as as I've ever expected. 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:17.679 Nothing wrong with that. 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:24.480 And he's gonna be in Bone, Idaho, this little tiny venue 20 minutes from our house uh this summer again. 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:27.360 And uh uh I'm looking forward to seeing him again. 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:31.919 You know, people ask me, I've been doing shows here for years, even before we had the art center. 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.120 I used a different place down the street to to do shows, and people would ask me around here, how do you get these people here? 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.919 And I said, You offer them some some money and a good experience. 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:47.039 And the you know, you can get money anywhere, but the good experience part is really important. 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:52.240 That's why I've had artists come back year in and year out, you know, because they're I I like it there. 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.080 The audience listens, the audience is attentive, they're appreciative. 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:02.399 Um you saw it last night with Rodney's show, they were it was dead quiet in there while he was telling a story and singing a song. 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:07.840 And that's something I stressed early on is this is how we need to do this if we want these people to keep coming back. 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.960 Yeah, it's not a bar, it's not a pub, you know. 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:13.519 Well, this is this is the setting that we love. 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.480 Yeah, and uh, and I told Dallas Burrow this. 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:21.200 You know, we we've experienced his his uh uh Redbird listing room in New Bronfels, Texas. 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.559 Great room, and and I've shared that story with a lot of people. 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.120 I was hoping I could talk Dallas into sitting down. 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.440 He just didn't have much interest in visiting with this. 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:36.159 And and so his choice, but but I love his setting, and I told him, I said, we'll be back to New Bromfels and we'll see you again. 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.240 And I hope you'll sit down with me at some point. 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:47.600 Yeah, but the cool thing that we've taken away from this, and that we've because we started doing some little uh songwriter rounds in Idaho Falls, never been done to my knowledge, in Idaho Falls. 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:47.759 Right. 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.080 And we did two uh in in March. 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:59.279 We called them Thursday in the round, we did them on Thursday nights in a little quiet setting, 50-60 people, and it was it was very cool, and I think we're gonna we'll build from that. 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:04.399 We want to do a songwriter festival in Idaho Falls at some point, and and like you've done here, right? 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:09.440 Um uh because I think our our downtown would lend itself to a good you know walking distance. 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.559 They did one in Gatlinburg, uh Tennessee, that's they use one venue. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:15.200 Oh, really? 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:22.159 They did it the first year or two, they had venues all over town, and it was it wasn't as easy as this because there was a lot of walking. 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:29.360 Sometimes you had to walk a quarter mile to get to the next venue and you had to hurry, and it was parking was a thing because that's a touristy area. 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:34.639 But they I think now uh my friend Irene Kelly's real involved in that, and I think now they just do one venue. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:40.480 Wow, and so I guess what I was alluding to earlier, you can you can do it a hundred different ways. 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:41.919 Yeah, pick what works. 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:45.759 A lot of it has to do with the fact here we just got these buildings right here together. 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.279 You know, Cindy's little shop was originally just gonna be a little shop. 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:55.440 We fixed up that back room as kind of a break room storage area, and wait, this will we can get 25 people back here. 00:12:55.519 --> 00:13:00.159 Yeah, and that's that's a good size room for that sort of thing because it's it's intimate. 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:02.879 Well, most people don't understand that, you know. 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:10.000 And I I keep telling them, guys, you're gonna go to a songwriter festival somewhere, and and these artists are accessible to you. 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.240 You're gonna be able to walk up, shake their hand, meet them. 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:26.799 Well, when we first started talking about this to the people in town, we we planned it, you know, three years ago, and we would have concerts across the street, and I would get up and talk about it to try to promote it, and I'd say, how many people uh have been to a songwriter festival? 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.960 And out of 150 people, I'd see three hands, and I go, Oh boy, we're in trouble. 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.120 Because they didn't know what it was. 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:33.600 No. 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:40.879 But on faith, they all bought tickets, and after the first round downstairs, I'll never forget somebody came up to me.

00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:42.399 I get it now. 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:43.360 I see. 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:58.159 This is what you can explain it all day long, but until you've experienced it, until you sat through a round and watched the interaction, the collaboration, the storytelling, the the the the good, the just the general good vibe and good good thing about it, you don't know what it is. 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.919 So um I think we're doing it as well as anybody in the country. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.320 Uh we can always improve, and we're gonna try to do that. 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:05.759 But I'm sure proud of everybody here. 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:08.000 Well, you've done a fantastic job. 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:08.720 Thank you. 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.440 Um we're just we're just tickled to be involved. 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:12.559 So you're involved. 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.080 You'll be here back back here next year. 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.639 You know, you know how to get in, you know where we're going. 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.399 And uh so well, we we we we love what you got going on here. 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.639 And and once again, and it and it's and it's uh it's not too terrible far. 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:25.600 I mean, it's a ways. 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:31.679 We'll get about nine-hour drive home this afternoon and uh this evening, and but we'll get home and get to sleep in our own bed. 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.320 But you have your accommodations here have been uh outstanding. 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.759 Once we've got the heat turned off in the middle of the summer. 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:40.159 You know, thermostats do what you tell them. 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:45.039 I told I told Shend I woke up in the middle of the night that I'm like, God dang, I'm so hot, I'm sick. 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:46.720 You know, she'd shut that door. 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.679 You had the AC blowing in here and the heater on. 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:50.320 I know. 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:56.879 Well, we we uh it's an old building and you have to accommodate uh yeah the eccentricities of it. 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.559 But no but I appreciate you guys coming and uh we look forward to seeing you back here next week. 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:01.440 Well, it has been a lot of fun. 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.879 It'll always be the far as we're concerned, it's gonna be the first weekend of June every year. 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:05.279 Okay. 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:12.639 And there's a competing not competing, there's a there's a bluegrass festival, Roots Festival over in Palisade, which is an hour away. 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.159 And they originally had theirs on a different weekend and then it got shifted to the same weekend as ours. 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.480 But we decided they're two completely different things. 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:29.360 You know, there's a big outdoor festival, and this is just a different well, you know, and and we just found out because we drove down last night and went to dinner in Delta uh to the little Italian place. 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:29.919 Yeah, yeah. 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:30.799 Oh, DeVito's? 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:31.360 Yeah, it was great. 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.639 Food was great, packed, it was a busy place. 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.919 But um, Tracy Byrd was in last night. 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.080 Yeah, they played it at the rodeo grounds. 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:45.679 Some folks that bought the old rodeo grounds that wasn't being used, and they've uh they're trying to turn that into an event center. 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.039 So they did Demolition Derby recently, then they did Tracy Bird. 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:55.519 Yeah, so there's uh, you know, and that's that's not my thing, but it's uh but it's other people's thing, yeah, you know. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:01.600 Well, and and you know, we once again we have a very eclectic taste in music, and so I I'm a I love Tracy Bird. 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:01.919 Sure. 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.799 Uh know some of the artists that have wrote for him. 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:12.399 You know, Ten Rounds of Jose Cuervo was written by Marla Cannon Goodman, you know, Buddy Cannon's daughter, and and uh which was a number one hit for Tracy. 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.480 And we got uh, you know, we on our way here, and I think I shared that with you. 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:20.799 We stopped in Salt Lake and we saw Lil John and and Pitbull on Wednesday night. 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:25.440 That's eclectic about as and I'd go see uh Prince if he was still alive. 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:26.639 Well, I think we all would. 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:27.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:27.919 What a talented. 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:29.840 There'd be a line around the block for that. 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:35.279 But uh um, well, and I want to I didn't I don't think I got to ask you this question in in Red Lodge. 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:35.840 Maybe I did. 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:37.360 But I like to ask everybody this question. 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:38.240 It's two questions. 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:39.519 One's a two-part question. 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.960 First question is favorite venue or event to play? 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:45.120 Obviously, it's got to be Grand Mesa Sonic Festival. 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:47.279 Well, you know, for me it is, and I'll tell you why. 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:53.440 It's not just that I was involved in getting that place developed and put together and remodeled and all that. 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.600 Uh for that reason it's near and dear to my heart. 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:56.240 Sure. 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:04.079 But I honestly I've played a lot of places, and our audience, well, they're just they're just the best, kindest people. 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:04.559 Yep. 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.359 Um, I'm just really lucky to live

where I live. 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.960 And a lot of people say, well, you could be in Nashville, you could do this, you could do that. 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:12.720 I planted my flag here. 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:13.039 Yeah. 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:18.000 I figured out that's kind of my my purpose in life is to leave it a little better, and I found it. 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:19.839 So yeah, that's my favorite place. 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:23.599 Well, and not only that, you're you're you're just an airplane right away from Nashville. 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:24.720 In fact, you're headed there tomorrow. 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:30.000 I'll be there tomorrow and I'll be back here Thursday night, and I will have gone down and done some recording working on that new record. 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.000 And so, yeah, I mean it's uh you don't have to be dead in the middle of it all the time. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:35.920 You can you can be on the outside looking in. 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.079 Okay, second question, two parts. 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:44.480 Wake up tomorrow, you could choose to work with anybody, dead or alive. 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.440 Obviously, we've got to bring them back from the dead, which isn't gonna happen. 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:56.319 But who from the past would you love to have had the opportunity to collaborate with, share a stage with, however, uh, and then whoever's living that you haven't had that opportunity? 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:57.200 Oh gosh. 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:58.319 Well, I've been lucky. 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.000 I've worked with some cool people. 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:07.039 You know, uh maybe Michael Lily mentioned this, but uh he and I both got to know Dan Fogelberg while we lived in Aspen. 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:07.599 Okay. 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:14.079 And Dan came in one night while I was playing guitar in a band and I was playing my old 58 Stratocaster, and I didn't know him. 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:17.440 And he walked up to me and he said, I'm Dan Fogelberg, can I play your old guitar? 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:18.799 And I said, Uh yeah. 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:19.519 Yeah. 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:24.960 So so he would come through town, two or three different times he came through town and tracked us down where we were playing. 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.279 I would love to have spent more time with him. 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:31.440 We stayed up really late one night and he talked to me about songwriting. 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:34.960 This is over 40 years ago, and I didn't know anything about songwriting. 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:37.599 He was kind, he took the time to do it. 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:47.920 Um I'd love an I'd love another shot at that just to spend some time with the guy because he was kind to me and gave me gave me insight that I've carried to this day about that process. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:54.400 Yeah, so that's uh that's one I've kind of had the chance to, but never got very, very far along. 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:55.599 Really admire his work. 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:56.000 Yeah. 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:56.559 Okay. 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:57.920 Uh Living? 00:18:58.079 --> 00:18:58.400 Yeah. 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.720 I I get to work with John Oates sometimes, and I I like that a lot. 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:05.200 Yeah. 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.839 Um I got got to play some songs with Rodney Crowell last night. 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:11.279 You did, and that is so cool. 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:12.319 Would I like more of that? 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:12.880 Yes, I would. 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:13.920 Yeah, I'm sure you would. 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.279 I'd love to write with Rodney. 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:16.480 You know, we didn't talk about that. 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.440 Well, I bring it up at some point, probably, because I can't help myself. 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:24.559 But uh Well, if you ever bring him back here, someday I would love to sit down with him. 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:25.359 Sure, sure. 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.759 I would love to have had a conversation with him about the album. 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:29.839 He was here very briefly, you know. 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:32.400 They they they drove out, but they flew out just for the show. 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.640 We worked it out where they could come out and just do the show. 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:39.200 He and his wife flew into Denver, then drove to Glenwood Springs and stayed a couple of nights and got some rest. 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:48.000 And you know, they got those hot springs over there, and he soaked and kind of he'd been been in Europe for three weeks, and it just just like me getting back from the UK. 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.519 It just takes some time to get your head. 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.000 It just knocks the hell out of you that coming back. 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.319 I know, and I I do it every year, but this year, for some reason, could be a year older. 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.079 I've only done it once, and I'm telling you, it took me two weeks to recover. 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:07.440 Yeah, so but uh you know, guys like Rodney, John Oates, they're just you know, John's done two records with me of his producer. 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:10.559 He's always generous, he's always does he live here in Colorado? 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:16.720 He's got a he's got a house over in the Aspen area that uh he's had for a long time, and then he's got a mostly stays in Nashville. 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:16.960 Yeah. 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:26.400 Summer months, you know, he loves to be over here because he's yeah, you'll see online, you'll see him out driving his John Deere tractor around and and uh doing work in the field, you know. 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.759 He's uh he's as good as gold, that guy. 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:31.839 And uh I'd work with him tomorrow in a heartbeat. 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.960 He's he's he's playing on a couple of my my songs on my new record. 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:35.759 That's cool. 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:37.440 When's the new album coming out? 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:45.119 I'm gonna you know what we're gonna try to do is we're probably just gonna release digitally this year sometime. 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:46.319 Okay, we'll see. 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:57.839 Um still some things up in the air with a record company I used on the last record, and uh that's kind of we don't have that figured out just yet, but that's part of this trip is about to kind of square that up. 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.240 So anyway, sometime this year, I hope. 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:02.319 David Starr, thank you so much. 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:03.599 Thanks for having me. 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:04.400 Been great. 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.759 Hey, for Musical Miles Podcast, I'm your host, Byron Duffin, here with Mr. 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:13.279 David Starr at Starz Guitar in Cedar Edge, Colorado, for the Grand Mesa Songwriter Festival. 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.640 Put it on your calendar for next year, first weekend in June. 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:17.920 Come meet us out here. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:19.119 It's gonna be it's a blast. 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:19.839 That's right. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:20.319 All right. 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:22.480 If we don't see you here, we'll see you somewhere down the road. 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:23.680 Adios for now. 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:32.400 This episode of Musical Miles Podcast is sponsored by Stetson, a true symbol of Western heritage and American craftsmanship. 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:37.599 For generations, Stetson has stood for quality, style, and authenticity. 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:42.160 Stetson, built for those who live the music and the lifestyle.