บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ 754: Holding Your New Identity ft. Joshua Dean Church

He was a Forbes thirty under thirty-honory and EY entrepreneur of the year finalist. 02:34.056 --> 02:35.938 [SPEAKER_02]: He co-founded Edge Theory Labs. 02:36.518 --> 02:38.721 [SPEAKER_02]: Some of you might be familiar with that company. 02:39.421 --> 02:47.024 [SPEAKER_02]: and scaled it to a twenty million dollar brand in under three years, totally redefining the cold immersion industry. 02:47.445 --> 02:59.750 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a certified Wim Hof method instructor, a yoga teacher, a mindset coach, and he blends modern leadership frameworks with ancient wisdom to help leaders become the person their business needs to succeed. 03:00.370 --> 03:06.953 [SPEAKER_02]: In this episode, we were catching up after he had gotten back from a retreat in Mount Shasta. 03:08.134 --> 03:25.343 [SPEAKER_02]: And this ended up turning into a two-part series because we were jamming and in the vortex and we're talking about making identity shifts and how to lock that in a lot of different aspects related to inner leadership. 03:26.264 --> 03:35.938 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot of good stuff in here, and then we have a part two coming for you about totally other set of topics in a couple of days on the podcast. 03:36.098 --> 03:40.084 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is going to be a jam pack series. 03:40.825 --> 03:45.108 [SPEAKER_02]: and if you come see us live on Thursday it's gonna be an even more jam pack series. 03:45.468 --> 03:46.909 [SPEAKER_02]: There are so many nuggets in this. 03:47.569 --> 03:52.492 [SPEAKER_02]: Always love having Joshua on the show and I can't wait for you guys to listen. 03:52.612 --> 03:55.734 [SPEAKER_02]: So enjoy this episode with Joshua Dean Church. 03:59.011 --> 04:01.313 [SPEAKER_00]: You're catching me fresh off the mountain. 04:01.353 --> 04:01.914 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you tell? 04:01.934 --> 04:03.736 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can. 04:04.116 --> 04:06.298 [SPEAKER_02]: When you walked in here, I was different. 04:06.358 --> 04:06.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Really? 04:06.899 --> 04:07.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:08.160 --> 04:08.620 [SPEAKER_02]: You know that? 04:09.501 --> 04:10.041 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel it. 04:10.582 --> 04:10.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:10.962 --> 04:12.324 [SPEAKER_00]: And it makes sense that you would perceive that. 04:12.544 --> 04:12.744 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:12.784 --> 04:13.725 [SPEAKER_00]: How so, would you pick up on? 04:16.085 --> 04:18.427 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, glowy, a lot more purple. 04:18.868 --> 04:20.389 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not usually purple like that. 04:20.569 --> 04:23.732 [SPEAKER_02]: You're usually more blue and more ground. 04:23.752 --> 04:29.397 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're always grounded, but a lot more ethereal, cosmic, celestial. 04:29.417 --> 04:34.081 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just, yeah, that heaven frequency makes sense that 04:35.582 --> 04:37.604 [SPEAKER_02]: different aspects of your divine child? 04:37.664 --> 04:37.884 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 04:38.384 --> 04:42.086 [SPEAKER_02]: I would

say, but yeah, the best way I can describe it is purple energy. 04:42.387 --> 04:42.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 04:43.067 --> 04:43.207 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 04:43.247 --> 04:43.627 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 04:43.868 --> 04:45.729 [SPEAKER_02]: So, glowy, glowy. 04:46.309 --> 04:54.755 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you find it hard when you're in experiences like that to hold that energy and that shift when you come back into 04:56.116 --> 04:59.217 [SPEAKER_02]: the rest of your life and back in the San Diego, I'm curious. 04:59.538 --> 05:04.881 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's always it feels like it's a recharging of the battery. 05:04.901 --> 05:13.026 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a battery recharging and then it's like the battery slowly starts to deplete and there's there's ways to kind of bump back up the battery in the daily practice, which is the work and the integration. 05:14.207 --> 05:17.169 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's some other experience that helps charge the battery back up. 05:17.189 --> 05:37.386 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've kind of know my rhythm of like when for me it's really important to be able to to go charge back up in nature for me is huge and and touching in in other ways and to be able to dose that like micro dose that in ways throughout and then also macro dose it like what I just did it Chasta being four days off the grid camping meditating hiking with people and 05:37.746 --> 05:40.567 [SPEAKER_00]: really slowing down and being completely off the grid like that would be a macro dose. 05:40.947 --> 05:44.127 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to last me for a while going up to the lake in a couple weeks. 05:44.447 --> 05:50.729 [SPEAKER_00]: That's also macro dose being up there for three weeks and just slowing down the lifestyle and really that charges me up for the whole year in a huge way. 05:51.749 --> 06:06.712 [SPEAKER_00]: But I've always found that something that was different about me than other people, whenever I did retreat or would have these experiences that would kind of like blast me off and get me more into that ethereal like energy seeing things a little bit differently is that I was always and always I'm so excited to get back. 06:07.633 --> 06:14.900 [SPEAKER_00]: Because for me it's like cool I can't wait to go share this with other people now like my friends are waiting for me like they're waiting for you, right? 06:14.920 --> 06:22.748 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like my friends are waiting for me other people to be able to share because the point and I was having this conversation with my friend is she was having a lot of resistance around going back is like 06:24.489 --> 06:26.650 [SPEAKER_00]: it would be really easy to just go sit on the mountain top and meditate. 06:26.670 --> 06:28.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Should you feel that all the time? 06:28.470 --> 06:29.110 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 06:30.110 --> 06:30.891 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to work on it. 06:31.031 --> 06:32.271 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be really easy. 06:32.411 --> 06:33.051 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

06:33.071 --> 06:33.791 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:34.071 --> 06:38.012 [SPEAKER_00]: And to me, it's like, well, we chose to come here, right? 06:38.992 --> 06:39.773 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have to. 06:40.833 --> 06:48.695 [SPEAKER_00]: And it would have been, if the point was to just sit and meditate and feel in that bliss, like we wouldn't have incarnated, at least at this point in Earth's school, in my opinion. 06:48.715 --> 06:50.175 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like we're here for a reason. 06:50.735 --> 06:52.536 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like we got to be a service to people. 06:52.716 --> 06:53.356 [SPEAKER_00]: And to me, like, 06:54.216 --> 06:58.581 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's part of that like firepower that I have, which is just like, I'm like, let's go, let's go integrate this. 06:58.601 --> 06:59.181 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go share this. 06:59.201 --> 07:03.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's like, let me go take these and put them into the day to day and be able to share that with other people. 07:03.966 --> 07:05.988 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I feel very strong in my mission towards doing that. 07:06.028 --> 07:13.356 [SPEAKER_00]: So it gives a purpose towards like getting up on the mount top and like fully releasing, experiencing that and then like coming back and being like, aren't like. 07:13.776 --> 07:32.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's like go be a service now because I feel super charged up and in my like my presence right now and I want to go I'm excited to go shout out with the people and like go make eye contact with people in a different way go people in a different way like go practice feeling love in my heart in a different way so it's it's always I feel like it's always challenging in a way, but that's the work right? 07:32.553 --> 07:34.555 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm curious. 07:35.275 --> 07:44.262 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it was this weekend or a different time, but is there a time where you went on a trip or a retreat or had an experience and you came back and you were really fundamental. 07:44.282 --> 07:45.043 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a different person. 07:46.734 --> 08:11.612 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fundamentally I would say the first Icelander treat I did when I connected with my body and my emotions in a whole new way from the deep breath work sessions and having that first experience where I was doing the breath work and I felt my a little tickle of my my side of my appendicitis scar and it like started to move its way up up up I got caught my throat for second these structures like just breathe keep breathing through okay breathing 08:13.233 --> 08:17.736 [SPEAKER_00]: And then all the sudden like waterworks just opened up and I started crying hysterically. 08:17.756 --> 08:27.641 [SPEAKER_00]: I've shared the story with you before and and then it went all around that my body that that tickle and traced all around my body of the different injuries and surgeries I had and it was just like I sobbed like I've never sobbed before. 08:27.981 --> 08:31.503

[SPEAKER_00]: I've just my body was like oh and I felt this compassion like oh body like I love you. 08:31.543 --> 08:32.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, like I'm here. 08:32.483 --> 08:35.465 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel you and it was like compassion 08:36.005 --> 09:05.452 [SPEAKER_00]: and this like sadness in a way of like I've been neglecting and I've been feeling like my body's been broken my whole life and I've been neglecting that like oh I love you I feel for you and that fundamentally changed me the combination of that plus then doing some of the more challenging like doing the hike up onto the mountaintop and nothing but our shorts and and doing cold emergency and freezing rivers and realizing like whoa I'm so much more capable than I thought so much more strong so much more beautiful than I thought that fundamentally changed me coming back to be like 09:05.912 --> 09:31.143 [SPEAKER_00]: okay it's no longer just mind to body like come on body why are you doing this or like let's will my way through this which is how I approached athletics I approached everything in life right it was no longer like just one way connection it was now there was another side of the street that was happening which is body to mind body what do you need intuition what do you need like what what is my what what are the whispers my body's giving me because it was a shout at that point so that fundamentally changed me that one 09:31.633 --> 09:33.234 [SPEAKER_02]: It's so interesting because I didn't know that part of you. 09:33.414 --> 09:34.615 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know that version of you. 09:34.675 --> 09:38.977 [SPEAKER_02]: I think probably probably feel that way about me when I say things about earlier in my life. 09:39.037 --> 09:44.820 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know maybe, but it's just funny when you only know someone at certain phases. 09:45.680 --> 09:46.220 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious. 09:46.240 --> 09:48.582 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you come back and that's a big identity shift. 09:48.602 --> 09:49.582 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big opening. 09:50.523 --> 09:53.944 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you feel like that was challenging to hold? 09:53.964 --> 09:54.645 [SPEAKER_02]: Like did you feel 09:55.845 --> 10:04.536 [SPEAKER_02]: And he resists into within yourself or around other people of like, okay, there are certain expectations of how you show up and I'm just curious about that integration for you or no. 10:05.177 --> 10:06.678 [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that helped me with that was writing. 10:07.780 --> 10:12.045 [SPEAKER_00]: I spent several weeks trying to formulate like what experience that I just have. 10:12.265 --> 10:14.786 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think it's really difficult when you can't name it or put words to it. 10:14.847 --> 10:16.087 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, we go have the experience. 10:16.107 --> 10:18.389 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how do I possibly begin to tell you how it was? 10:18.409 --> 10:20.030 [SPEAKER_00]: And people would ask, because I would notice who would be different. 10:20.350 --> 10:21.170 [SPEAKER_00]: How is Iceland like? 10:21.190 --> 10:22.491 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, it was good. 10:22.511 --> 10:24.432 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no, that doesn't do justice. 10:24.472 --> 10:25.152 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, how was it? 10:25.193 --> 10:26.153 [SPEAKER_00]: It was life changing. 10:26.413 --> 10:28.194 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, okay, really, how was it? 10:28.234 --> 10:29.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, why was life changing? 10:29.375 --> 10:29.975 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened? 10:30.355 --> 10:35.018 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I spent several weeks and I remember going to Bulletproof Cafe in Venice and getting my headphones on, listening to. 10:35.038 --> 10:35.759 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I missed that. 10:35.839 --> 10:36.299 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it right? 10:36.339 --> 10:39.801 [SPEAKER_00]: That places, I was drove back up there the other last time was up there and I closed it down. 10:39.861 --> 10:40.361 [SPEAKER_02]: I know. 10:40.802 --> 10:41.402 [SPEAKER_02]: I used to go there. 10:41.662 --> 10:42.383 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you go all the time? 10:42.423 --> 10:43.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, all the time. 10:43.563 --> 10:44.484 [SPEAKER_00]: But what college? 10:44.704 --> 10:46.025 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, what do you see on it? 10:46.045 --> 10:48.306 [SPEAKER_00]: I know, but what years were you going to bulletproof coffee? 10:48.366 --> 10:50.548 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen. 10:51.658 --> 10:51.938 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 10:52.218 --> 10:55.059 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going in twenty seventeen. 10:55.119 --> 10:57.160 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in there like pretty much every day. 10:57.180 --> 10:57.980 [SPEAKER_00]: So we might have crossed. 10:58.020 --> 11:01.041 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess probably until twenty eighteen. 11:01.101 --> 11:01.361 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 11:01.721 --> 11:02.381 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably dead. 11:02.461 --> 11:02.701 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:02.921 --> 11:03.582 [SPEAKER_02]: The way freaking. 11:03.602 --> 11:03.782 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:03.862 --> 11:04.222 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally. 11:04.242 --> 11:04.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:04.382 --> 11:04.802 [SPEAKER_00]: That's good. 11:04.902 --> 11:05.282 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go. 11:05.302 --> 11:15.165 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would go to both of her cafe put on my headphones and I would start writing and really channeling, but also like I took pages and pages of notes and my journal and processing through of like 11:15.685 --> 11:30.204 [SPEAKER_00]: what what has shifted in me and why like what is like what is different and how do I put words to that experience and that helped me so much be like okay like and anchored into that of like this is this is why this experience was life-changing these are my takeaways this is this is how I'm looking at things differently 11:30.584 --> 11:32.985 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do that first and foremost for myself, but I shared it too. 11:33.065 --> 11:35.246 [SPEAKER_00]: I had a blog

at the time called Word of the Church. 11:35.266 --> 11:35.846 [SPEAKER_00]: It's great. 11:35.866 --> 11:36.286 [SPEAKER_00]: Great blog. 11:36.406 --> 11:37.867 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I love that. 11:38.667 --> 11:39.408 [SPEAKER_00]: That was so good. 11:40.688 --> 11:44.210 [SPEAKER_00]: And I shared it on my blog and it like, it like, it like, Loki went viral. 11:44.230 --> 11:49.032 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was getting thousands of shares and like tens of thousands of download of views and stuff. 11:49.052 --> 11:50.232 [SPEAKER_02]: I miss the days of the blog. 11:50.332 --> 11:50.752 [SPEAKER_00]: I know, right? 11:50.772 --> 11:51.613 [SPEAKER_00]: They were so good. 11:51.633 --> 11:52.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Blogs are great. 11:52.193 --> 11:53.293 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a different time. 11:53.473 --> 11:54.694 [SPEAKER_02]: I love reading blogs. 11:54.754 --> 11:55.514 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what? 11:55.534 --> 11:57.335 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's kind of making a comeback in Substack. 11:57.615 --> 11:59.356 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's just different on Substack. 11:59.396 --> 12:00.676 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think Substack's amazing. 12:00.736 --> 12:01.697 [SPEAKER_00]: I love Substack. 12:02.137 --> 12:03.517 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's a different vibe. 12:03.537 --> 12:05.918 [SPEAKER_02]: We're just a fine energy energy. 12:05.958 --> 12:10.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would go to specific people's websites to read their blog blogs. 12:10.620 --> 12:11.580 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I just don't like that. 12:11.600 --> 12:13.621 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a feeling it's going to make it come back and that one. 12:13.681 --> 12:14.701 [SPEAKER_02]: I am manifesting. 12:14.781 --> 12:14.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 12:15.002 --> 12:15.602 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you on that. 12:15.622 --> 12:24.105 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a feeling it will be because I think people are wanting to get more towards like authenticity and like long form and like really getting to get glimpse of someone and something. 12:24.485 --> 12:29.913 [SPEAKER_02]: I, I understand the value of a feed format, but I don't really like a feed format anymore. 12:29.933 --> 12:35.400 [SPEAKER_02]: I prefer to go seek out what I want, what I want to read, or what I want to hear. 12:35.440 --> 12:36.602 [SPEAKER_00]: I totally agree. 12:37.062 --> 12:40.267 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was really helpful and something I encourage everyone to do is like, 12:40.647 --> 12:48.010 [SPEAKER_00]: because so much of the hard part in integrating, I feel like, or brushing up against these, like, like, you were saying of expectations of the people have. 12:48.030 --> 12:49.891 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, I was showing up fundamentally different. 12:49.931 --> 12:55.053 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, the way that I was interacting, the choices I made with my health and my body were different after that as well. 12:55.673 --> 13:03.536 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very grateful to have supportive friends and family that, like, yes,

sure they didn't, like, they call me crazy on a few different things for sure. 13:04.337 --> 13:06.818 [SPEAKER_00]: My mom was worried I was joining a cult going into ice cold water. 13:08.278 --> 13:14.843 [SPEAKER_00]: But I had a supportive group, but putting it putting names to it really helps you be like help that anchor down. 13:14.883 --> 13:16.825 [SPEAKER_00]: And then also you can share it with people as well, right? 13:16.865 --> 13:23.369 [SPEAKER_00]: And email like this is what I learned and like I think people can receive it better and it helps you instead of just being like, it was amazing. 13:23.389 --> 13:23.970 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like changing. 13:23.990 --> 13:24.730 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like that's kind of hard. 13:24.770 --> 13:27.773 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no connection with that with someone else who can't possibly understand. 13:28.433 --> 13:37.941 [SPEAKER_00]: There's almost like a wall that comes out, but if you can have deeper words to be able to express or share what was transformational about it and why, then it can help that process. 13:38.181 --> 13:43.606 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do think the support system around you is such a key thing. 13:43.646 --> 13:50.912 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because I know for myself, at certain phases of my life, it felt harder to let myself integrate into a change. 13:52.173 --> 13:56.317 [SPEAKER_02]: because I was feeling those expectations more heavily. 13:57.178 --> 14:04.846 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was beyond just an expectation or assumption, I think, you know, you can feel when people's energy is providing you to stay at that frequency. 14:05.327 --> 14:11.252 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, I think changing a lot of my social dynamics was a big one for me to feel safer to change. 14:11.993 --> 14:36.200 [SPEAKER_02]: I also think like being for me being an intuitive person I think a lot of people like it's okay to feel other people's expectations which is noticing like where you're feeling that versus it's how you actually want to show up you know because I do it's something that people ask me at the end of every retreat like okay I feel amazing and how do I keep up with this how do I hold this integration like people get worried that when they go back it's going to change and I think 14:36.740 --> 14:44.702 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I always tell people, I think that helps me as thinking about how I'm going to change my daily routine. 14:44.942 --> 14:55.005 [SPEAKER_02]: Because for me, I know if I just go back home and I'm doing the same exact daily routine, like the logistics of it, running your team, my workday, like I have to change other things. 14:55.605 --> 14:58.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, I just slip back into my old personality pattern too. 14:58.466 --> 14:58.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 14:58.946 --> 15:00.406 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's absolutely accurate. 15:00.627 --> 15:00.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 15:00.907 --> 15:02.047 [SPEAKER_00]: I say the same things on retreats. 15:02.087 --> 15:05.668 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also, one thing that I always do whenever I'm facilitating retreating to any container is 15:06.809 --> 15:31.352 [SPEAKER_00]: before closing it like I like to pop the bubble like special retreats it's like we're on this high and what happens with high you come down and so like I'd much rather pop the bubble like burst the bubble and like how people come down before they get to the airport before they go back home and to deal with it on their own when we're still in this container so I will always focus the last day of retreat certainly the last segment on integration of like what does that look like now in your life like what does 15:31.912 --> 15:33.953 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you going to bring this back? 15:34.033 --> 15:34.953 [SPEAKER_00]: What is your team look like? 15:34.973 --> 15:39.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Because oftentimes it's not talked about because it's just like we're focused on the blast off, but then there's a come down. 15:39.095 --> 15:52.720 [SPEAKER_00]: And I find that that really helps ground down the transformation for for myself and for other people as well as like if I can and then there's the shifts start to happen where it's like okay now I actually become excited to go back in a way because it's like I have things to work on versus like I'm just an amazing spot. 15:52.740 --> 16:00.423 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to confront reality and that's even something funny that someone shared it's like just as weekend is like this isn't no more retreating. 16:01.223 --> 16:14.366 [SPEAKER_00]: Our guy, our guy, is so we were up there with the Shastonation White Eagle clan, a couple very special people, Shaman's from their White Eagle clan, Garth Skywalker legend and Thunder Eater, who was an absolute character. 16:15.326 --> 16:24.709 [SPEAKER_00]: I met them way back when we did the August full moon healings ceremony of circle that we did and they came and they built sweat lodge and we did a sweat lodge with them up on the mountain, which was incredible. 16:25.229 --> 16:26.069 [SPEAKER_00]: And Garth was like, 16:27.089 --> 16:28.551 [SPEAKER_00]: Garth was like no more retreating. 16:28.571 --> 16:29.352 [SPEAKER_00]: We're done retreating. 16:29.372 --> 16:30.714 [SPEAKER_00]: This is ascension summit. 16:30.814 --> 16:33.377 [SPEAKER_00]: We are we are ascending together. 16:33.798 --> 16:36.261 [SPEAKER_00]: So we are calling this an ascension summit no more retreats. 16:36.281 --> 16:38.023 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like I fuck with that Garth. 16:38.043 --> 16:38.344 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go. 16:38.364 --> 16:39.625 [SPEAKER_02]: I love that. 16:39.966 --> 16:40.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. 16:40.947 --> 16:42.589 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's I think that's a big part of it, too. 16:42.609 --> 16:43.390 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like never treating. 16:43.410 --> 16:43.851 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going up. 16:43.891 --> 16:44.532 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going up together. 16:44.872 --> 16:45.132

[SPEAKER_02]: I know. 16:45.192 --> 16:49.433 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that can be hard for certain people to hear, though, or receive. 16:49.693 --> 16:50.933 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think that bumps up again. 16:50.993 --> 16:53.674 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, no more retreating, right? 16:53.694 --> 16:54.534 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 16:54.634 --> 16:55.494 [SPEAKER_02]: We're very lucky. 16:55.514 --> 16:55.895 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 16:56.235 --> 16:58.655 [SPEAKER_02]: That, you know, we have time at today. 16:58.715 --> 16:59.795 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what day is today? 16:59.975 --> 17:00.356 [SPEAKER_02]: Tuesday. 17:00.656 --> 17:01.276 [SPEAKER_02]: Tuesday. 17:01.296 --> 17:01.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Tuesday. 17:01.496 --> 17:10.478 [SPEAKER_02]: I could be here as long as I want to be, you know, but I think that when people, like different stages of life, they can definitely be these feelings of like, 17:11.418 --> 17:23.389 [SPEAKER_02]: But I have to go back to this or have to write that even you're talking about like being at edge was a different kind of lifestyle than what you can do now Totally, you know, and so like how do you how do you balance like if you were at edge? 17:23.630 --> 17:26.192 [SPEAKER_02]: You know when you heard that like how do you bring that into that kind of job? 17:26.979 --> 17:33.143 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I find the ways to bring it back and I find the ways that I can create those subtle shifts even if it's one little shift. 17:33.183 --> 17:41.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if it's like changing one thing about my schedule or my day or it's or it's eliminating one meeting on my calendar or it's having one conversation that I've been putting off. 17:41.269 --> 17:44.632 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like what's one bolder that I can move that can create 17:45.312 --> 17:48.675 [SPEAKER_00]: that they can help me create more of the life that I want to be living. 17:48.735 --> 17:52.639 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would be in it from a different mindset, but it would be like, okay, cool. 17:52.679 --> 17:56.022 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, how can I go sustain this as I'm going back into like the quote unquote fire? 17:56.042 --> 18:01.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Like how can I build this sense of peace and resiliency and carry that in with me? 18:01.087 --> 18:05.791 [SPEAKER_00]: So it would be different intention and it would be different integration process, but it would still be there. 18:06.071 --> 18:06.311 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 18:06.351 --> 18:06.952 [SPEAKER_00]: It would still be there. 18:07.252 --> 18:07.532 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 18:07.953 --> 18:13.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, because I think it's like, if I need a retreat for my life, I feel like I've got to look at. 18:13.498 --> 18:18.923 [SPEAKER_02]: I've really got to look at what's happening in my life is a, it's a big conversation. 18:18.963 --> 18:20.624 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big conversation. 18:20.664 --> 18:21.485 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:21.685 --> 18:23.266 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can be a lot of builders to move.

18:23.447 --> 18:24.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can. 18:24.147 --> 18:25.629 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're not going to solve it all once. 18:25.749 --> 18:25.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:26.129 --> 18:36.218 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that giving yourself the grace to know that as well of just simply by showing up and doing the work or going to a trade or being in the community, it's like you are making strides and efforts. 18:37.439 --> 18:39.081 [SPEAKER_00]: Most people are not making those strides and efforts. 18:39.101 --> 18:45.587 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's having grace to like, it's like my grow steps, my grow steps over a long period of time, linking that time horizon. 18:46.207 --> 18:49.329 [SPEAKER_02]: I think for me, I also really needed examples. 18:49.930 --> 18:50.130 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:50.150 --> 18:54.452 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the more people I met who lived that way, I was like, oh, yeah. 18:54.513 --> 18:55.493 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing it. 18:55.513 --> 18:56.854 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you don't know you don't know. 18:56.874 --> 18:57.214 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 18:57.314 --> 19:02.758 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so when you only have models of one way of living, your life is like, this very, like, this is work. 19:02.858 --> 19:03.999 [SPEAKER_02]: This is personal life. 19:04.539 --> 19:05.379 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel this way. 19:05.399 --> 19:05.500 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 19:05.520 --> 19:07.141 [SPEAKER_02]: From our responsibilities or separate. 19:07.161 --> 19:09.282 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like a very separate totally. 19:09.342 --> 19:09.522 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 19:09.982 --> 19:10.403 [SPEAKER_02]: Energy. 19:11.043 --> 19:20.029 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I started, when I was younger, you know, meeting a lot more people who were actually living their passion and creating their own schedules and making their own choices outside of what society was. 19:20.109 --> 19:25.772 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think just seeing that embodied, it turns something on my brain of like, oh, that's how I could do it, you know? 19:25.912 --> 19:34.318 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think also just finding examples of what people, you know, because everybody always feels like there's no one else around and, you know, find the others. 19:34.498 --> 19:35.318 [SPEAKER_02]: There are lots of others. 19:35.358 --> 19:35.478 [SPEAKER_02]: And I, 19:38.060 --> 19:43.664 [SPEAKER_02]: I was asking, when I met people, I was asking what I was worried were like stupid questions, but I had to ask them. 19:43.704 --> 19:47.306 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like asking religious to questions about their schedule and choices they may. 19:47.506 --> 19:51.509 [SPEAKER_02]: And people were always curious, and I'm like, I literally just don't want to live this way anymore. 19:52.429 --> 19:57.012 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think for other people, I was like, just ask the questions you really have. 19:57.132 --> 19:58.694 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't hope you're going to figure it out. 19:58.754 --> 19:59.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good. 19:59.414 --> 20:01.495 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I have a lot of clients who ask me things. 20:01.515 --> 20:02.696 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, that's not your real question. 20:02.736 --> 20:03.837 [SPEAKER_02]: Like ask me the real question. 20:03.857 --> 20:04.017 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:04.457 --> 20:04.537 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:05.738 --> 20:09.201 [SPEAKER_00]: Or as Sam says, is there anything left on said? 20:09.221 --> 20:10.462 [SPEAKER_00]: She started to say now. 20:11.783 --> 20:15.085 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's this concept I referred to as model of possibility. 20:15.426 --> 20:21.591 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like looking for people in your life that can be a model of possibility for what you may be able to do as well. 20:21.611 --> 20:32.059 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the first models of possibility that I had was my uncle, my uncle David, who he went through divorce and he was overweight completely out of shape and he got into yoga. 20:32.439 --> 20:33.160 [SPEAKER_00]: He lost like 20:33.720 --> 20:48.430 [SPEAKER_00]: fifty pounds got super healthy like became the you know the flagship for our family of like leading a healthier life and getting into regenerative healing and medicine and and I credit a lot of my healing journey towards him because I saw in my point at that point 20:48.890 --> 20:49.831 [SPEAKER_00]: I was living in chronic pain. 20:49.951 --> 20:51.171 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't sit on my knees. 20:51.592 --> 20:53.192 [SPEAKER_00]: I was struggling with yoga in the beginning. 20:53.553 --> 20:56.454 [SPEAKER_00]: And I saw, I was like, oh, wow, like he just changed his life at his age. 20:56.494 --> 21:05.139 [SPEAKER_00]: She just changed his life and he's now healthier, better off, like if he can do that and he can get healthy, then maybe my diagnosis in the chronic pain I'm living in isn't. 21:05.779 --> 21:06.540 [SPEAKER_00]: chronic either. 21:06.660 --> 21:08.981 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I can fix it as well. 21:09.021 --> 21:10.983 [SPEAKER_00]: So he was a big model of possibility for me. 21:11.263 --> 21:21.250 [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like every chapter of my journey in my life, there's always been a model of possibility on the other side, whether it was health related, whether it was relationship related. 21:21.270 --> 21:22.872 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how many people do you see relationship? 21:22.892 --> 21:24.192 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh, wow, that's possible. 21:24.573 --> 21:25.053 [SPEAKER_00]: Like cool. 21:25.073 --> 21:26.314 [SPEAKER_00]: You can have relationship like that. 21:26.614 --> 21:30.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Family can be model possibility, business certainly. 21:30.177 --> 21:32.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you've been a model possibility for me from a business stance and like 21:33.439 --> 21:38.243 [SPEAKER_00]: that's been a whole guiding light for how I'm focused on building my business now of like in a certain direction. 21:38.584 --> 21:44.569

[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like look around you and look like look up to see what are the different models of possibilities that you have in your life. 21:44.829 --> 21:47.672 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, anything now or so lucky because it's easier to find. 21:48.732 --> 21:51.335 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I always tell people in my health journey. 21:51.355 --> 21:53.316 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the most important things for me were 21:54.437 --> 22:10.416 [SPEAKER_02]: read it forums and just random other forums on the internet because reading people's personal anecdotes helped me more than anything else because I was seeing a lot of people saying I have the same thing and I healed right and I know anybody else at the time that was dealing with what I was dealing with like the internet was very different place 22:11.457 --> 22:15.738 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was anybody I knew personally, so even if you don't know people personally now, it is. 22:16.238 --> 22:17.999 [SPEAKER_02]: You can get to know people on a personal level. 22:18.019 --> 22:18.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 22:18.639 --> 22:18.799 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 22:18.819 --> 22:23.800 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if somebody's been listening to my show over ten years, listening to me talk for five hours a week, they know me. 22:24.420 --> 22:27.361 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's really helpful for your brain. 22:27.421 --> 22:31.722 [SPEAKER_02]: And I, just being able to believe it because it's, it's around just have to look for it for sure. 22:31.922 --> 22:34.523 [SPEAKER_02]: I think relationships can be harder because. 22:36.843 --> 22:40.448 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that you always know the truth of people's relationship. 22:40.568 --> 22:42.610 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of relationships on social media. 22:42.630 --> 22:43.652 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure. 22:43.672 --> 22:44.152 [SPEAKER_02]: What's not. 22:44.172 --> 22:46.755 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you need to know that. 22:46.915 --> 22:47.856 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:48.597 --> 22:52.402 [SPEAKER_02]: And kind of see like I think for me that relationships I really admire these are people I know and I've 22:52.642 --> 22:58.829 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I've been like dinner with these people with their families and I'm seeing how they how they raise their children. 22:58.849 --> 23:03.754 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like I'm like seeing these intimacies of family dynamics and that's where I'm like, wow, that's a real expander for me. 23:03.774 --> 23:04.215 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally. 23:04.395 --> 23:09.501 [SPEAKER_02]: But you wouldn't know those details without that kind of intimacy. 23:09.561 --> 23:12.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that's a really important point too with the caveat of this of like 23:13.625 --> 23:24.855 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe everything that you see is well and have that discernment and and like because I think everybody's trying to sell themselves as a model possibility like I just made a million dollars and twenty days like you can do it too.

23:24.915 --> 23:26.537 [SPEAKER_00]: Pay me ten grand and I'll show you how to do it. 23:26.557 --> 23:26.777 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like 23:27.415 --> 23:28.835 [SPEAKER_00]: That can be dangerous as well. 23:29.095 --> 23:34.777 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think if you use your sermon, especially with something's like relationships, like you want to like see it fully and know it intimately. 23:35.357 --> 23:35.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:36.217 --> 23:40.058 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think sometimes the breakdown is good to see too. 23:40.118 --> 23:42.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the reality of not everybody's perfect. 23:43.139 --> 23:43.979 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:44.239 --> 23:47.040 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that because I do think, yeah, it's social media. 23:47.080 --> 23:50.100 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of everybody trying to present a certain way. 23:50.120 --> 23:55.642 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also think, you know, you don't owe anybody on social media showing like repeat historical secrets. 23:55.662 --> 23:57.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So you look at upset about it, but I'm like, 23:58.123 --> 24:06.732 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a line between, there's a difference between being inauthentic and like showing everyone every detail about your life. 24:07.513 --> 24:10.796 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also don't think it's healthy to show everyone every single detail about your life. 24:11.337 --> 24:15.041 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, nobody's obligated to that, but that is different than being inauthentic. 24:16.242 --> 24:16.422 [SPEAKER_00]: Very true. 24:16.442 --> 24:17.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are two different things. 24:17.263 --> 24:19.024 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's an important difference. 24:19.124 --> 24:20.585 [SPEAKER_00]: That really is important. 24:20.685 --> 24:27.490 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very important differentiation, especially when in the realm of building a personal brand or building something online where you have an online presence in that way. 24:27.510 --> 24:29.972 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a really good news. 24:29.992 --> 24:30.653 [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me more about that. 24:30.693 --> 24:30.973 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious. 24:30.993 --> 24:33.315 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's interesting because we, I'm just thinking. 24:33.475 --> 24:33.655 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 24:36.157 --> 24:39.558 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, back in the day, you didn't know your doctor is personal life. 24:40.198 --> 24:41.999 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't know their political beliefs. 24:42.259 --> 24:45.000 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't know, like, and now there's this expectation. 24:45.020 --> 24:49.201 [SPEAKER_02]: I for all these people to be, you're going to take a stand on everything. 24:49.241 --> 24:51.842 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't need to know my dentists. 24:52.522 --> 24:54.484 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, like what they're doing on Saturday. 24:54.544 --> 24:56.306 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, you know, I don't know. 24:56.386 --> 24:58.047 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one thing if it's kind of a family thing. 24:58.088 --> 25:03.192 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think there's just a depth that people think that they're up, like, they're entitled to. 25:03.393 --> 25:03.653 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 25:04.133 --> 25:07.337 [SPEAKER_02]: And business can be separate from person. 25:07.437 --> 25:08.498 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like not everything. 25:09.138 --> 25:11.300 [SPEAKER_02]: needs to be everybody's business. 25:11.360 --> 25:15.644 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's a sacredness to our life stories in our life relationships. 25:15.684 --> 25:17.966 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think there's a lot of leaky energy. 25:17.986 --> 25:22.349 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I speak from a perspective of just watching what it does to people's fields as well. 25:22.429 --> 25:23.490 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think there's a lot of 25:24.531 --> 25:53.893 [SPEAKER_02]: there can be a lot of feeling like I'm not doing enough and I'm not boundary enough and I shouldn't be so affected by people and in some ways like yeah we have to build that resilience in other ways we're not biologically designed to be dealing with everybody's eyes on us all the time that's just not normal and not healthy and so that can be a lot to manage when you're intuitively aware and sensitive you know and so I think the inauthenticity being being inauthentic to me 25:56.515 --> 25:58.536 [SPEAKER_02]: is pretending to be someone you're not. 25:59.077 --> 26:04.000 [SPEAKER_02]: That's very different than here's a piece of my self I share in a career setting. 26:04.821 --> 26:05.922 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's all true to me. 26:05.942 --> 26:11.025 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's also other sides of me that are allowed to be sacred in my relationship. 26:11.186 --> 26:13.047 [SPEAKER_02]: And are allowed to be sacred with my family. 26:14.328 --> 26:17.270 [SPEAKER_02]: There's lots of people that make the choice not to show their kids on social media. 26:17.530 --> 26:18.751 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not being inauthentic. 26:18.851 --> 26:20.032 [SPEAKER_02]: They get to make that choice. 26:21.233 --> 26:36.500 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's a really important piece of our sovereignty and I just think speaks to a general, like there's a really interesting entitlement energy that is at the breakdown frequency for a lot of people. 26:36.580 --> 26:39.321 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a really big issue and society vibrationaly. 26:41.023 --> 26:50.792 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's something we have to really pay attention to because that entitlement energy is causing a lot of people to be the source of their own pain. 26:51.032 --> 26:51.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 26:52.373 --> 26:52.774 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 26:52.794 --> 26:56.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it creates that energy or that attitude of 26:57.862 --> 27:01.105 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel good about the choices or what you're doing. 27:01.185 --> 27:04.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, you need to change your perspectives or opinions in order for me to feel good. 27:04.947 --> 27:06.108

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very conditional living. 27:06.148 --> 27:16.036 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very disempowered perspective to have and to take on life of like, I feel uncomfortable because you think this way and therefore you need to stop thinking that way to make me feel better. 27:16.056 --> 27:17.377 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what does that really make sense? 27:17.417 --> 27:19.098 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that an empowered way to go about living life? 27:19.338 --> 27:20.378 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't even know you. 27:20.678 --> 27:21.059 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 27:21.159 --> 27:22.439 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't even know. 27:22.539 --> 27:23.759 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't care further. 27:24.020 --> 27:26.440 [SPEAKER_02]: I said this on social media a couple weeks ago. 27:26.460 --> 27:36.824 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I don't people who are on social media and commenting and no one said this to me, but I was just really different things on these huge accounts. 27:36.844 --> 27:40.165 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I'm so disappointed in you, but I'm like, 27:40.825 --> 27:42.126 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't even know this person. 27:42.246 --> 27:44.207 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're the source of your disappointment. 27:44.527 --> 27:47.369 [SPEAKER_02]: You're allowing, like, they're so weird to him. 27:47.589 --> 27:50.910 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm not letting what's so so who I don't even know disappoint me. 27:51.851 --> 27:52.711 [SPEAKER_02]: They're on my child. 27:52.751 --> 27:55.153 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're giving that power away. 27:55.353 --> 28:01.056 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's such an interesting, and it isn't entitlement energy because it's an attempt. 28:01.836 --> 28:08.480 [SPEAKER_02]: I, somebody who's talking about this, it's like, I think what they said, they're like, it's bullying because you're trying to assert your moral dominance over something. 28:08.500 --> 28:08.600 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 28:09.200 --> 28:10.381 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I don't even know you. 28:10.561 --> 28:11.882 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to make you proud. 28:12.002 --> 28:12.242 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 28:12.962 --> 28:13.963 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm living my life. 28:14.723 --> 28:16.665 [SPEAKER_02]: You're living your life, you know? 28:16.925 --> 28:25.190 [SPEAKER_02]: And to people feel enough pressure and there's enough childhood trauma for people related to just getting their parents validation. 28:25.930 --> 28:32.816 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you feel the weight of, I'm supposed to get the validation of, you know, random whoever across the world's world's world, I don't even know. 28:32.836 --> 28:37.960 [SPEAKER_02]: And people know, unless people know, I don't really need that, but there's this vibrational pressure. 28:38.460 --> 28:39.881 [SPEAKER_02]: We never used to have that many eyes on us. 28:40.021 --> 28:40.462 [SPEAKER_00]: So true. 28:40.542 --> 28:41.703 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's not normal. 28:41.803 --> 28:41.883 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 28:42.363 --> 28:44.046 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not normal, we never use that many eyes on us. 28:44.346 --> 28:57.507 [SPEAKER_00]: And our our our our pea size and mingula is not designed to and our parental cortex is not designed to be able to take in the information of all of the world and to like see everything and all the suffering of the world play out in front of our eyes in front of our screen like 28:57.807 --> 28:59.028 [SPEAKER_00]: We're just not designed for that. 28:59.068 --> 29:03.470 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, yeah, of course, that can put you into this doom and glue mindset that you can build very easily. 29:03.871 --> 29:15.097 [SPEAKER_00]: The other thing that you're saying about that I think is important to double tap on is like, is if you as I think is really important for people that are building a personal brand or if you're a musician or an artist or you're sharing a part of yourself out there is that 29:16.262 --> 29:25.767 [SPEAKER_00]: If you now are trying to appease and not let people feel disappointed in you that you don't know, that is when you start to create from this frequency of an authenticity. 29:25.927 --> 29:27.468 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that will lead to an authenticity. 29:27.508 --> 29:35.952 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're like trying, and I know because I've brushed up against there in the past as well, like I want to say the thing that feels right so that like people won't be mad at me. 29:36.592 --> 29:44.815 [SPEAKER_00]: That to me feels like that would be in authentic in a way, and not in our honoring your own authenticity of whatever you feel like you'd need to share or not need to share as important. 29:44.875 --> 29:45.035 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 29:45.715 --> 29:52.078 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the other perspective could be it's authentic for your wounded in her child. 29:52.478 --> 29:55.739 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like that's the part of you that gets activated by that. 29:55.799 --> 30:02.582 [SPEAKER_02]: Like your inner child that wants to be loved is saying that, but that's not your grown adult soul cell. 30:02.662 --> 30:02.742 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. 30:03.282 --> 30:04.803 [SPEAKER_02]: It's two different things. 30:05.303 --> 30:05.704 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 30:05.864 --> 30:06.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 30:06.224 --> 30:07.865 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's very interesting. 30:07.885 --> 30:08.825 [SPEAKER_02]: It is. 30:09.306 --> 30:09.766 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 30:09.786 --> 30:12.387 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, those are one of the themes and conversations actually. 30:12.407 --> 30:16.970 [SPEAKER_00]: It was really present when I was in Iceland a few months ago, leading two retreats out there. 30:17.671 --> 30:23.634 [SPEAKER_00]: And even as I'm sure it's the same for you, but even as a facilitator or spaceholder, you are still like, it's all a mirror for you. 30:23.674 --> 30:25.115 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're growing through a lot. 30:25.635 --> 30:28.397 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, same, my clients keep me honest in the

best way possible. 30:28.937 --> 30:40.186 [SPEAKER_00]: But one of the big things for me was like, and it's been a theme for me, too, is being able to like connect with that inner version of Josh, like little kid Josh, and be like, it's okay. 30:40.446 --> 30:40.987 [SPEAKER_00]: I love you. 30:41.687 --> 30:42.728 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm in control now. 30:42.928 --> 30:46.971 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you don't have to try to protect me any longer on these certain things. 30:47.011 --> 30:55.038 [SPEAKER_00]: So for example, one of the things that I was working through was like this, this, the way that I, my inner child wanted to protect me for feeling 30:56.358 --> 31:11.284 [SPEAKER_00]: safety and love and through accomplishment, through when I did well in sports, when I got good grades, when I, when I was the center of attention, when I received applause, like that was what kept me safe and whole, right? 31:11.604 --> 31:15.345 [SPEAKER_00]: And so you can see how that would lead towards certain patterns. 31:15.545 --> 31:22.488 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I was really those were coming up in certain ways, when I was a nice and more recently, just like, and building that relationship with that inner child of myself, like, 31:23.128 --> 31:23.508 [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay. 31:23.548 --> 31:23.888 [SPEAKER_00]: I love you. 31:23.928 --> 31:24.368 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 31:24.388 --> 31:25.489 [SPEAKER_00]: I see what you're trying to do here. 31:25.549 --> 31:26.749 [SPEAKER_00]: These patterns that you're bringing up. 31:26.809 --> 31:27.969 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I see what you're trying to do. 31:27.989 --> 31:28.949 [SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to keep me safe. 31:29.349 --> 31:30.190 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mad at you for that. 31:30.250 --> 31:31.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I love you for that. 31:31.270 --> 31:31.630 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 31:31.870 --> 31:34.211 [SPEAKER_00]: And at the same time, you don't need to do that any longer. 31:34.251 --> 31:34.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm here. 31:34.751 --> 31:35.471 [SPEAKER_00]: I got this. 31:36.031 --> 31:36.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 31:36.451 --> 31:37.151 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I love that. 31:37.611 --> 31:40.412 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that this connected to what we're talking about earlier. 31:40.452 --> 31:42.673 [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't, I didn't episode earlier on. 31:42.713 --> 31:47.734 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, clarity and like the vision for your timeline and claiming where you want to be. 31:47.754 --> 31:50.354 [SPEAKER_02]: And something, I have to be really careful with. 31:50.394 --> 31:52.635 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of people do whether or not they realize it is. 31:54.377 --> 32:10.105 [SPEAKER_02]: My vision is just like the vision in my soul for where I want to go or is it this timeline that's gotten built from everybody else's expectations and assumptions because there could be so much momentum and energy. 32:11.025 --> 32:17.251 [SPEAKER_02]: along that, you know, so a way that people can

relate to that is my parents want to meet to be doctors, my whole life, so it's medical school. 32:17.711 --> 32:18.672 [SPEAKER_02]: I really want to be a doctor. 32:18.732 --> 32:20.153 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, why do you want to be a doctor? 32:20.213 --> 32:24.657 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you or is it because they had carved out that timeline so strongly with such potency? 32:24.677 --> 32:25.017 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:25.077 --> 32:26.338 [SPEAKER_02]: That vision is really clear. 32:26.519 --> 32:27.459 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I'm seeing. 32:27.780 --> 32:28.060 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 32:28.320 --> 32:33.084 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of us know that in terms of that, what am I going to do with my life when I'm eighteen? 32:33.104 --> 32:33.605 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 32:33.625 --> 32:35.086 [SPEAKER_02]: But that continues as adults. 32:36.347 --> 32:56.483 [SPEAKER_02]: especially the more relationships we have or the more people that are seeing us if it's social media is involved there can be a lot of people having expectations and visions for you even like all your friends your family kind of a vision for you right and can hold it with such momentum because they see that for you that it crystallizes and you think it's yours 32:57.740 --> 32:59.623 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is where we have to be careful. 32:59.683 --> 32:59.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 33:00.004 --> 33:05.793 [SPEAKER_00]: So how do you create a sense of discernment between someone else's vision for you and that time on that's created out? 33:05.893 --> 33:08.918 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's craft it out versus what feels to be true for you. 33:10.352 --> 33:11.834 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, a couple of things. 33:11.914 --> 33:15.918 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, the conversation we had earlier is one of those examples of me like talking through it. 33:15.938 --> 33:16.158 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 33:17.039 --> 33:21.784 [SPEAKER_02]: So to speak, because I definitely, like, when you read the, I'm like reading the field, right? 33:21.804 --> 33:24.346 [SPEAKER_02]: So I have to be really careful about who created this in the field, though. 33:24.526 --> 33:25.407 [SPEAKER_02]: What did I create? 33:25.467 --> 33:26.829 [SPEAKER_02]: What are other people create? 33:27.309 --> 33:29.972 [SPEAKER_02]: Because in the field doesn't mean it's for my highest. 33:30.292 --> 33:31.413 [SPEAKER_02]: Just because it has momentum. 33:32.514 --> 33:44.323 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a strong energy your probability actually doesn't mean it's for my highest so for me it's it's dropping and Getting out of the human part and dropping the source and coming back into soul self like what's my mission? 33:44.343 --> 33:47.325 [SPEAKER_02]: What's my purpose and going down from there? 33:48.706 --> 33:50.307 [SPEAKER_02]: Is what clarifies it makes sense? 33:50.667 --> 33:56.812 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a different feeling to like the different I don't know what she looks at different it's a different level of like the building to like feel that on 33:57.230 --> 33:57.530 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 33:58.031 --> 33:58.251 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 33:58.331 --> 33:59.611 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very different frequency. 33:59.651 --> 34:10.798 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's why I'm like, OK, for me, doing a high on myself every day, I have to to stay grounded because I'm in the, I mean, energy so much that it's, there's a lot of illusion there. 34:10.858 --> 34:13.539 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of falsities in there and there's a lot of truths. 34:13.939 --> 34:15.220 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you have to weed it out. 34:15.320 --> 34:23.065 [SPEAKER_02]: And so having that time where I'm kind of zooming out and zooming up and looking at it without the, the humaneness of, I can be in the illusion and sing with clarity. 34:23.085 --> 34:23.185 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 34:24.165 --> 34:27.227 [SPEAKER_02]: Then when I drop back down, I can start to sort through a wool. 34:27.267 --> 34:30.789 [SPEAKER_02]: That's active because other people manifested it into the reality. 34:30.809 --> 34:32.690 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I manifested it into the reality. 34:32.710 --> 34:33.090 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 34:33.610 --> 34:33.971 [SPEAKER_00]: So true. 34:34.031 --> 34:36.572 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't want that anymore. 34:36.872 --> 34:38.133 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very fine line. 34:38.153 --> 34:38.853 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what? 34:38.954 --> 34:44.797 [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because people come in and they're like, they're like, you know, I have this really quick vision. 34:44.817 --> 34:46.718 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm here to do this and I'm just like, 34:48.180 --> 34:49.141 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that at all. 34:49.721 --> 34:53.704 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, but you know, when you're talking about that, who I see, your mom and your dad. 34:55.728 --> 34:56.308 [SPEAKER_02]: your husband. 34:56.889 --> 34:57.529 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, that's it. 34:57.549 --> 34:59.250 [SPEAKER_02]: When you're talking about this, I'm just seeing that person. 34:59.470 --> 34:59.910 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 35:00.130 --> 35:06.012 [SPEAKER_02]: And so sometimes you will get really confused between the soul's timeline being delivered. 35:06.613 --> 35:11.155 [SPEAKER_02]: And what somebody else has often lovingly. 35:11.175 --> 35:11.955 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:12.175 --> 35:12.775 [SPEAKER_00]: With your best interest. 35:12.815 --> 35:13.696 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're best interest. 35:13.716 --> 35:15.596 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, well, I see this potentially a skill. 35:15.656 --> 35:17.157 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this wouldn't this be so beautiful. 35:17.197 --> 35:18.178 [SPEAKER_02]: If we did this together, right? 35:20.559 --> 35:25.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what they have brought forward with the vision they've put in your field for you. 35:25.800 --> 35:32.822 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of people have that moment in relationships like marriages that end with their like, I had this whole vision for my life

and it just crumbled. 35:32.862 --> 35:33.943 [SPEAKER_02]: But I saw it so clearly. 35:34.863 --> 35:36.403 [SPEAKER_02]: So clearly, yeah, it's a real vision. 35:36.463 --> 35:37.524 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a real timeline. 35:37.864 --> 35:39.884 [SPEAKER_02]: But who added momentum to that? 35:40.245 --> 35:45.186 [SPEAKER_02]: Every time somebody else in your reality is on track with that in terms of 35:45.786 --> 35:50.532 [SPEAKER_02]: They see that for you or they desire it for you or it makes sense to them. 35:50.572 --> 35:51.233 [SPEAKER_02]: They expect it. 35:51.253 --> 36:01.264 [SPEAKER_02]: They assume it adds clarity to that timeline and it makes your vision connection to it clear and stronger just because it's clear for you doesn't mean it's yours. 36:02.766 --> 36:06.989 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really important, but it's momentum crystallizes things. 36:07.489 --> 36:09.931 [SPEAKER_02]: Momentum comes from all different tips of people for you, though. 36:10.231 --> 36:13.133 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's especially when you have strong energies in your life. 36:13.594 --> 36:18.217 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a lot of moving pieces and you're going to get really clear on what's mine and what's everybody else is. 36:18.257 --> 36:20.199 [SPEAKER_02]: Because people put a lot of energy. 36:20.219 --> 36:23.301 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's not bad intentions. 36:23.361 --> 36:25.603 [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it can be a control mechanism. 36:25.943 --> 36:27.504 [SPEAKER_02]: But most of the time, it's just they love you so much. 36:27.584 --> 36:30.106 [SPEAKER_02]: They get swept away and what this could be. 36:30.126 --> 36:32.929 [SPEAKER_02]: It's why people get trapped in the wrong relationship. 36:33.229 --> 36:40.775 [SPEAKER_02]: That person is adding so much desire, momentum, and they build up this whole vision of real life and you start to get pulled in and I'm like, wow, you can see us together. 36:41.255 --> 36:42.076 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you, though? 36:42.096 --> 36:45.718 [SPEAKER_02]: Or are you feeling into the vision that they've placed in your fields? 36:45.739 --> 36:46.959 [SPEAKER_00]: Do the difference? 36:47.080 --> 36:47.460 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally. 36:47.500 --> 36:50.522 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also see the importance and the value on building that. 36:52.030 --> 37:05.497 [SPEAKER_00]: energetic muscle or mastery of your energetic field in a way to be able to feel and discern the difference between those things and to be able to notice like what's the resistance coming up here or like do I fully feel that vision or is there some resistance there? 37:05.537 --> 37:05.978 [SPEAKER_00]: What is that? 37:05.998 --> 37:09.500 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me get curious around that and feel that because that I feel like helps with the discernment. 37:09.540 --> 37:09.980 [SPEAKER_02]: For sure. 37:10.520 --> 37:15.241 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, another version of this is this, like, who am I really with my real personality? 37:15.701 --> 37:18.802 [SPEAKER_02]: And how many of us are the personality that we were told we were? 37:18.822 --> 37:20.383 [SPEAKER_02]: Racism really are. 37:20.403 --> 37:26.524 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, oh, you're so disciplined, you're so, you're so perfect. 37:26.544 --> 37:28.905 [SPEAKER_02]: Just such a good speaker, you're whatever. 37:28.925 --> 37:34.446 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I think so much of my life was people telling me I was things and I was trying to make sense of who I was. 37:34.486 --> 37:37.127 [SPEAKER_02]: So I took that and I was like, I guess that's my personality. 37:38.107 --> 37:41.389 [SPEAKER_02]: And that became my personality, but it wasn't my real personality. 37:41.449 --> 37:44.191 [SPEAKER_02]: So there was always that friction and that sadness. 37:44.591 --> 37:53.236 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a thing you feel like when there are things in my field or like we're time before that like I don't know a really mind but they're what other people want from me. 37:53.616 --> 37:57.018 [SPEAKER_02]: There's something in me that's like there's like a bump there. 37:57.078 --> 37:57.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:57.719 --> 37:58.539 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a bump there. 38:00.140 --> 38:12.965 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one thing that I found that's on a practical sense is very helpful in the way that I approach some of those conversations is that I, and this something that I learned from my dad is that, because he always said, it's just a data point. 38:13.005 --> 38:13.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Take it as a data point. 38:13.766 --> 38:26.130 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I really view that way when I get feedback from anyone, positive or negative, when I, when I ask for their perspective or opinion on things, I view it as like I'm plotting a data point on the chart and then I get a carve my own path. 38:26.431 --> 38:29.732 [SPEAKER_00]: And I can use those as data points to either like go away from, go closer towards, but 38:30.192 --> 38:33.855 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just always been very helpful like can I get a data point and viewing that as a data point? 38:33.895 --> 38:39.219 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially when it comes towards mentors or people or friends or people that you really love or you really admire, appreciate their perspective. 38:39.259 --> 38:52.208 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's getting still viewing that as just a data point and not taking it as like the all knowing answer or like this person knows me the best so like this must be the way it's like okay that can be a data point like how do I feel into that? 38:52.228 --> 38:53.028 [SPEAKER_00]: How do I feel about that? 38:53.048 --> 38:55.290 [SPEAKER_00]: And usually then the path becomes pretty clear to chart. 38:55.580 --> 38:57.901 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like especially with people in my life. 38:58.161 --> 39:04.144 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like any single person is going to be able to see all of me clearly, but everybody is holding a different part of the mirror.

39:04.844 --> 39:08.446 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can use all of that to then get a full, right, sixy of myself. 39:08.606 --> 39:08.866 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 39:09.026 --> 39:11.307 [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's, you know, the quality of the mirror matters. 39:11.467 --> 39:14.008 [SPEAKER_02]: But that's what's very helpful, you know. 39:14.528 --> 39:19.510 [SPEAKER_02]: But I did want to ask because like my tool is a high and even going through it. 39:19.650 --> 39:20.691 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't talked about it. 39:20.771 --> 39:21.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 39:21.471 --> 39:22.732 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me about tell me. 39:23.852 --> 39:27.715 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very, very potent for sure, very potent. 39:29.557 --> 39:34.341 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, at first, when we were doing the thirty days of healing, I was just like, cool, I did every single day and you were like, don't do it every single day. 39:34.581 --> 39:41.647 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you can drop into meditation every day, but don't do this actual high energy healing every single day, like make it a proper session on yourself. 39:42.307 --> 39:45.229 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a few different realms that I saw growth in myself. 39:45.349 --> 39:49.851 [SPEAKER_00]: One, it's like, you put your focus towards anything consistently, like you're going to see results. 39:50.111 --> 39:54.073 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, where focus goes energy flows and like you're going to see things happen. 39:54.133 --> 39:57.515 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was putting it towards like, I'm gonna work through some of these things. 39:57.635 --> 39:59.936 [SPEAKER_00]: I was actually healing some back pain at the time as well. 40:00.337 --> 40:08.721 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think one of the biggest shifts is physically healing and seeing improvements in physical healing for me, amazing tool. 40:08.741 --> 40:10.502 [SPEAKER_00]: And now it feels like a tool might in my tool kit. 40:11.382 --> 40:12.323 [SPEAKER_00]: and multiple different ways. 40:12.383 --> 40:18.887 [SPEAKER_00]: Even just like doing when we were up at Shastag, I had a headache towards the end of night when we did a sweat lodge in the morning, I really pushed it at the end. 40:19.467 --> 40:27.251 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I had a headache at night and we were doing a healing meditation together and I dropped into that and I brought in that high energy and my kind of going to the details around that. 40:27.291 --> 40:30.653 [SPEAKER_00]: But I brought that in and like headache gone at the end of that meditation. 40:30.673 --> 40:31.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Like gone. 40:31.273 --> 40:32.154 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like pounding. 40:32.214 --> 40:32.874 [SPEAKER_00]: My heart was high. 40:32.914 --> 40:34.315 [SPEAKER_00]: Like headache gone completely. 40:34.395 --> 40:35.636 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I had nothing like gone. 40:36.317 --> 40:36.937 [SPEAKER_00]: So powerful. 40:36.957 --> 40:38.098 [SPEAKER_00]: So powerful. 40:38.118 --> 40:40.218 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what an amazing tool to have in your toolkit. 40:40.639 --> 40:44.400 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's that from the physical level and then also the synchronicity level. 40:44.460 --> 40:53.163 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was probably the biggest thing that I noticed is like paying attention to and moving and consciously moving the energy through your field and and and fusing. 40:54.343 --> 41:07.290 [SPEAKER_00]: I noticed the synchronicities and of everyday life just like we're becoming so much more obvious and then momentum builds in that as soon as you start noticing the synchronicities like our friend Jamie from Sedona keeps the synchronicity notebook. 41:07.971 --> 41:18.236 [SPEAKER_00]: I was called my note like a Winx from the universe like keep the list of the things you start seeing them more and more and they happen more and more so that was something that anchored and I'll give you one one example of that that was just like this is so good. 41:18.796 --> 41:39.629 [SPEAKER_00]: I was at lunch with my family and another family friends that we had there and my mom's Tesla was she has a Tesla and it was like she was about to run out of battery and so I was like okay well you want to take my car back like I'll take your car and I'll go stop at a supercharger and charge it up for you and she's like okay thank you that sounds really great 41:40.049 --> 41:44.591 [SPEAKER_00]: So she gave me her because her phone has the key to it. 41:44.651 --> 41:50.374 [SPEAKER_00]: So she's just like, just take my phone like just so you can have the key and you have access to all the controls and the app and stuff and I was like, okay, great. 41:50.774 --> 41:54.856 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm walking and she has her, um, she has her like Siri ringer on all the time. 41:54.876 --> 41:57.517 [SPEAKER_00]: So like if someone calls, it'll be like, call from Christina Rice, right? 41:59.678 --> 42:01.739 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm walking and we're walking from the restaurant. 42:01.759 --> 42:03.400 [SPEAKER_00]: I was with Rachel and Jacob and my brother and sister. 42:03.420 --> 42:05.561 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're walking from the restaurant towards the car where it was parked. 42:06.081 --> 42:07.502 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have her phone on my back pocket. 42:08.242 --> 42:12.267 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just walking and the thought comes through me. 42:12.307 --> 42:13.067 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, you know what? 42:13.188 --> 42:15.790 [SPEAKER_00]: I should reach out to Debbie Say who's a close family friend. 42:15.830 --> 42:16.811 [SPEAKER_00]: She was here at the event. 42:17.432 --> 42:19.014 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like in one of my mom's close friends. 42:19.034 --> 42:25.240 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I should reach out to Debbie Say to have a conversation with her because we're talking about doing another writing retreat in Mexico together and I want to have her in my podcast. 42:25.280 --> 42:27.923 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I was like, I'm going to reach out to Debbie Say

and have a catch up with her. 42:28.463 --> 42:32.706 [SPEAKER_00]: And I pull out my phone, and I literally am typing, reach out to Debbie Sade. 42:32.766 --> 42:38.089 [SPEAKER_00]: And as I type Debbie Sade, my mom's phone rings, and it says, incoming call, Debbie Sade. 42:38.809 --> 42:43.932 [SPEAKER_00]: And I like stop, and I was like, I just like, I literally stopped my tracks, and I was like, Rachel Jacob, come look at this right now. 42:44.052 --> 42:44.793 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not moving. 42:44.913 --> 42:45.513 [SPEAKER_00]: Come look at this right now. 42:45.553 --> 42:46.534 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at what's on my screen. 42:47.174 --> 42:48.395 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to who's calling right now. 42:49.075 --> 42:50.895 [SPEAKER_00]: like unreal, right? 42:50.915 --> 42:52.256 [SPEAKER_00]: It's totally. 42:52.336 --> 42:53.116 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 42:53.456 --> 42:57.076 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that was just like such a like a synchronistic turn of events. 42:57.096 --> 43:02.617 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was just like those moments I take is sacred, like truly sacred of like, okay, I'm on the right track and like, God is with me. 43:03.317 --> 43:05.918 [SPEAKER_00]: The universe is leading me these breadcrumbs and like, I know on the right track. 43:06.158 --> 43:07.998 [SPEAKER_00]: And so there was a lot of that. 43:08.078 --> 43:18.440 [SPEAKER_00]: That's one example, but throughout the thirty days, there was it felt like a higher amount of than usual of those types of synchronities or moments. 43:18.820 --> 43:20.921 [SPEAKER_02]: I love that because you already have a lot of things. 43:21.142 --> 43:21.682 [SPEAKER_00]: I sure do. 43:21.862 --> 43:22.162 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 43:22.422 --> 43:23.583 [SPEAKER_00]: So I felt like a supercharged of that. 43:23.663 --> 43:29.967 [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like a, um, a, I'll give you the third thing a sec, but I felt like a supercharged of that, those synchronous cities. 43:30.047 --> 43:33.610 [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like another tool for aiding in my physical healing process. 43:34.130 --> 43:40.715 [SPEAKER_00]: And then third, it felt like I had another tool towards sitting more deeply with some of the deeper emotions that are coming up. 43:40.875 --> 43:41.935 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's really important one. 43:42.175 --> 43:42.316 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 43:42.456 --> 43:46.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I usually just use my journal as like they're certain negative emotions or certain, 43:47.980 --> 44:04.320 [SPEAKER_00]: Things that come up and like all right, I know I got to sit in this and it now felt like I had with one of the the techniques that you teach in a high now felt like I had a Like a booster pack towards like processing those and like moving through those since I make sense to you 44:04.420 --> 44:07.603 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a hundred percent and that's the main way I use it. 44:07.623 --> 44:09.464 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people come into it. 44:09.484 --> 44:12.967 [SPEAKER_02]: I have come into it in the past just like I want spiritual activation. 44:12.987 --> 44:18.091 [SPEAKER_02]: I want like spiritual experiences like I want to blast off in outer space and like you can. 44:18.631 --> 44:23.936 [SPEAKER_02]: But the real flex of it is just the level of emotional processing. 44:24.677 --> 44:31.085 [SPEAKER_02]: and with the speed at what you can shift your perspective and that's the real thing. 44:31.125 --> 44:32.587 [SPEAKER_02]: It's my main tool. 44:32.928 --> 44:36.893 [SPEAKER_02]: Any emotion I have to work through, because I'm always having to work through things. 44:36.913 --> 44:41.519 [SPEAKER_02]: We all are, I can go straight there and it moves things out really, really quickly. 44:42.340 --> 45:05.090 [SPEAKER_02]: and a lot of people will say to me like they're like how do you process so fast because you know I had one my good friend she's like it's so interesting because most people who process that quickly I I assume it's not fully processed but your energy is so clean like when I do it's like you it is it's integrated it's healed it's up it's like you learn the lesson and it's so fast and I was like 45:05.950 --> 45:29.134 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a hi, I swear to God because you're doing that vibrational work and you're actually integrating that like mind-body soul on every level and Yeah, it's huge and I know because that's that's the like that's a process and way of being that I've been committed to especially in the recent I'm saying like you know five years ish of like okay, I feel this emotion This is the growth I gotta go sit with this, right? 45:29.214 --> 45:31.475 [SPEAKER_00]: This is this is the way the obstacle is the way and like 45:32.295 --> 45:32.575 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was fun. 45:32.595 --> 45:36.961 [SPEAKER_00]: I was reading a Mary Magdalene book just this weekend up there, which we'll dive into. 45:37.161 --> 45:38.923 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe on the next one, but we'll dive into. 45:39.404 --> 45:48.514 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that's like one of the main themes that kept coming through that book was like those negative emotions and those feelings like that is a pathway to God too. 45:49.195 --> 45:51.876 [SPEAKER_00]: And like do you think it's a design error? 45:52.016 --> 45:57.059 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it a design error that we like have the ability to experience these of these this range of emotions? 45:57.099 --> 45:58.359 [SPEAKER_00]: Like do we think that's just an error? 45:58.399 --> 46:00.000 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like no, like it's there for a reason. 46:00.080 --> 46:11.445 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's there to to give us something and we can connect to the to the to the inner divine qualities of that emotion now becomes a pathway to God, but like that takes not just like a, oh glasses have full perspective, but like a full integration of that. 46:12.025 --> 46:24.630 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I feel like the high was a, so I've been consistent with that practice,

but it did feel like with a high, it was like, it's the best way to describe it, it felt like a way to more kind of vibrationally integrate that. 46:24.770 --> 46:35.835 [SPEAKER_00]: And there were two things during the month that I was really focused on integrating with that that I feel like I'm in a very good place with right now that I think a high four is one is with love and the other is with money. 46:36.515 --> 46:54.683 [SPEAKER_00]: The two things were always concerned about right love and money and So if felt like I was able to really sit into those feelings like whenever I would have those feelings come up of like Loneliness or lack or longing to meet my wife to find my partner to be in a relationship. 46:54.743 --> 46:54.983 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like 46:55.523 --> 47:11.198 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I was really able to work with that with a high and in a more head-on way it feel like to shift that dominant vibration that I have around it now and same with money around like I'm in the process of building my business right now and building it back up and and so like that's a new process for me and 47:11.638 --> 47:14.340 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like, I'm burning cash every month right now. 47:14.380 --> 47:15.601 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, that's uncomfortable. 47:15.661 --> 47:16.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what's there? 47:16.382 --> 47:17.943 [SPEAKER_00]: And how can I work through that to shift that? 47:18.003 --> 47:20.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't want to be in that scarcity mindset as I build. 47:20.985 --> 47:27.690 [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like a high was very helpful to help me work through and kind of tackle those head on, which is still practice. 47:27.730 --> 47:28.651 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like, oh, I'm all great. 47:28.691 --> 47:33.555 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's a practice, but it's now it's now it's now tool that I have in my tool belt to help me with that practice. 47:34.135 --> 47:48.877 [SPEAKER_02]: I love hearing that but anything that's the thing I really want people to understand about it who are like curious it's like to me it's a personal development tool yeah totally and that's also the part of spirituality that that I like the most you know I think there's all kinds of 47:49.938 --> 48:13.119 [SPEAKER_02]: niches within the spirituality space and for me it's like I got interested in spirituality because it's a personal development tool right like the the the sacred connection the message is talking to the guides the going a different dimensions for me it's not just for the sake of doing it it's right because of how I'm growing from this like how my learning it's all a personal development tool and I think in a lot of spiritual spaces it gets lost yep 48:13.279 --> 48:16.403 [SPEAKER_02]: And it also think that's the missing piece of personal development, right? 48:16.423 --> 48:21.128 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I've been in personal development interested in that for a really long time and using a lot of those practices. 48:21.348 --> 48:28.756 [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing got me anywhere near, you know, five years of a high has with like just me developing as a person and growing. 48:28.776 --> 48:32.020 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just think that's where those two meet. 48:32.260 --> 48:32.900 [SPEAKER_00]: You're so right. 48:32.920 --> 48:59.534 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is the bridge between spirituality and personal development and you are the perfect voice to be able to bring that in based on your experience with both like being able to have, yeah, of course, being able to have like one foot in each one of those rounds because you talk both languages, which is which is why someone like me can come in to the high side of things and like use that as an amazing tool when I'm more dominant in the other field and building this awareness in this new realm. 49:00.415 --> 49:07.826 [SPEAKER_00]: and vice versa for someone else that might be more into that feeling expansive, experiential side of spirituality to be able to ground that down as a practicality. 49:07.846 --> 49:14.676 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it is the young, it is masculine feminine energy together and so it's really powerful tool and that's why I love the work that you're doing. 49:14.856 --> 49:15.596 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy. 49:15.656 --> 49:23.020 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's the section that I think is so interesting and really going to boom like breath work is another practice like that. 49:23.040 --> 49:30.404 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of these tools that some people see as purely like a spiritual experience that are actually personal development tools. 49:31.004 --> 49:35.546 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think when people really understand that and utilize it in that way, right? 49:35.566 --> 49:37.826 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, you could have any tool. 49:37.846 --> 49:43.748 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're not using it in the way that it's going to really produce massive results in your life, you won't think it's valuable tool, right? 49:43.788 --> 49:51.531 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think there's a lot of things that people just perceive as a fun thing to have or a fun thing to do or a spiritual experience. 49:51.591 --> 49:53.092 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to connect to another dimension. 49:53.492 --> 49:57.133 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you integrated this into how am I developing myself and growing myself and 49:57.593 --> 49:59.655 [SPEAKER_02]: use it as a real consistent tool. 49:59.955 --> 50:03.057 [SPEAKER_02]: That's where you get the big results. 50:03.498 --> 50:06.340 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think people do this with breath work too. 50:06.480 --> 50:09.102 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not the people you talk to, but I know people do it. 50:10.443 --> 50:14.206 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not a, I'm doing this one time for a fun experience. 50:14.226 --> 50:17.429 [SPEAKER_02]: This is like, I'm going to the dentist. 50:17.449 --> 50:19.490 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're coming to meet going to the dentist,

50:20.311 --> 50:21.612 [SPEAKER_02]: But you got to brush your teeth every day. 50:22.112 --> 50:26.416 [SPEAKER_02]: So well, you know, and for breath work, it's like, okay, maybe somebody's doing like a really intense experience. 50:26.436 --> 50:33.241 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, I'm sure you like people, okay, every day what am I doing to like breathe in my body because it's a growth tool. 50:33.361 --> 50:33.641 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 50:34.022 --> 50:36.343 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's a really important distinction. 50:36.363 --> 50:42.388 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we're a lot of really good stuff in spirituality gets lost because people aren't messaging that way. 50:42.548 --> 50:43.448 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so true. 50:43.468 --> 50:46.630 [SPEAKER_00]: You hit the nail on the head with a hammer, not a screwdriver. 50:47.170 --> 50:47.370 [SPEAKER_03]: Great. 50:48.471 --> 50:58.095 [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing that I see a lot of especially in the breath work space is that the tool itself becomes confused with the path or the result where it's like 50:59.455 --> 51:05.258 [SPEAKER_00]: I just breath work every day like I just got to do by breath work every day, but it's like, okay, what are you using the breath work for? 51:05.318 --> 51:05.818 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the goal? 51:05.858 --> 51:07.118 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you want to create with this? 51:07.138 --> 51:15.682 [SPEAKER_00]: Is this something that I really love from my mentor, your and the brown that I've learned from the space and he teaches a little bit different than when Hof does and some of the other teachers and 51:15.982 --> 51:18.024 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I learned because when I asked him, I was like, okay, what's the recipe? 51:18.064 --> 51:19.947 [SPEAKER_00]: Like how often I got to do this to be able to feel this good all the time? 51:19.967 --> 51:21.508 [SPEAKER_00]: He was like, he was like, you have to ask yourself. 51:21.628 --> 51:22.910 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, give me the freaking answer. 51:22.950 --> 51:23.711 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's, I don't want that. 51:23.831 --> 51:24.812 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what's the prescription? 51:24.872 --> 51:29.457 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like the whole concept of this is that you need to find the prescription yourself. 51:29.557 --> 51:31.700 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's, that's the point of this tool. 51:31.720 --> 51:32.440 [SPEAKER_00]: It's to go inward. 51:32.460 --> 51:34.062 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a way to get into your subconscious. 51:35.043 --> 51:42.445 [SPEAKER_00]: to lead and connect with your intuition and to have an amazing experience, but it's like, it's easy to confuse the tool for the way. 51:42.785 --> 51:45.385 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, no, it's a tool on your way. 51:45.765 --> 51:46.725 [SPEAKER_00]: The tool is not the goal. 51:46.785 --> 51:49.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Doing breath work every day, sitting down and meditating every day. 51:49.386 --> 51:50.126 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not the goal. 51:50.166 --> 51:52.306 [SPEAKER_00]: The goal is, what am I processing or working through? 51:52.346 --> 51:54.387 [SPEAKER_00]: How am I using this to now help me on my journey? 51:54.427 --> 51:59.648 [SPEAKER_00]: How am I using this to help inform me towards creating, moving in the direction of creating a life that I want to create? 51:59.668 --> 52:00.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for. 52:00.608 --> 52:07.554 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing as there's lots of people that meditate every day that do not have a high level of consciousness. 52:07.694 --> 52:07.874 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 52:08.455 --> 52:20.805 [SPEAKER_02]: And by that I mean, they're still, they've got a lot of fear, a lot of resent mail, a lot of anger, a lot of scarcity, like just because you're meditating every day, just because you're channeling doesn't mean doesn't mean that you're living from love, you know? 52:20.925 --> 52:22.386 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think people are they were channeling. 52:23.747 --> 52:29.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you know, but you know, it's like it's not just the action for the sake of the action. 52:29.834 --> 52:32.797 [SPEAKER_02]: It is like who are we becoming and who are we being? 52:32.837 --> 52:33.678 [SPEAKER_02]: What are we embodying? 52:33.718 --> 52:34.759 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the most important thing. 52:34.799 --> 52:37.982 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, I had a mentor as always. 52:38.142 --> 52:40.424 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's in the Enlightenment Olympics out here. 52:40.525 --> 52:41.766 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm really trying to prove. 52:41.846 --> 52:42.847 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm more than you. 52:42.867 --> 52:43.407 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, 52:44.168 --> 53:04.453 [SPEAKER_02]: you just get lost in the sauce and that's what a lot of you know social media people don't realize they don't ask themselves who why am I right what's the point yeah and I think that's where a lot of complexity comes in people over complicated things to try and make it sound like I know it's like we're just getting lost lost in it and it's like what what actually matters you know 53:06.613 --> 53:11.875 [SPEAKER_02]: Which for whatever reason for me feels connected to tell me about your Magdalene. 53:12.476 --> 53:14.116 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's been happening with Magdalene. 53:14.897 --> 53:16.357 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot's been happening with Magdalene. 53:17.778 --> 53:19.979 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we dive into that, you're going to freaking kill me. 53:20.159 --> 53:20.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 53:20.479 --> 53:22.100 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I need to go. 53:23.000 --> 53:24.201 [SPEAKER_03]: I got to keep on going. 53:24.281 --> 53:29.603 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take a pause because this is my second Kristina lot to me in about like forty five minutes. 53:29.823 --> 53:31.844 [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to be ready before we started. 53:31.904 --> 53:32.684 [SPEAKER_00]: You saw me, right? 53:32.704 --> 53:33.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you saw me.

53:33.505 --> 53:34.445 [SPEAKER_03]: Go, go, go, go. 53:34.645 --> 53:35.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, pause for second. 53:38.002 --> 53:43.803 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, now I have the record for sure as two people twice now to be able to go. 53:43.923 --> 53:44.543 [SPEAKER_00]: I apologize. 53:44.663 --> 53:46.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you doing that just for attention? 53:46.104 --> 53:46.624 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not. 53:46.724 --> 53:47.044 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not. 53:47.104 --> 53:47.424 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not. 53:47.604 --> 53:48.764 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not. 53:49.645 --> 53:51.945 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're truly a shy guy. 53:51.965 --> 53:53.105 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it is. 53:53.305 --> 53:56.046 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really not doing that for attention. 53:56.086 --> 53:57.126 [SPEAKER_00]: There's caffeine in these, right? 53:57.226 --> 53:57.846 [SPEAKER_02]: A hundred percent. 53:57.886 --> 53:58.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 53:58.266 --> 53:59.227 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's coffee. 53:59.347 --> 53:59.647 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 53:59.767 --> 54:00.587 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good amount. 54:01.007 --> 54:01.187 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 54:01.227 --> 54:02.647 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you have coffee every day. 54:02.967 --> 54:03.107 [SPEAKER_00]: I do. 54:03.127 --> 54:05.368 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have, do you have drip or do you have espresso? 54:05.948 --> 54:06.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Usually drip. 54:06.728 --> 54:07.688 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah. 54:08.489 --> 54:10.689 [SPEAKER_00]: But you saw a quick that drink the first time. 54:10.789 --> 54:12.469 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would, I would have the same issue. 54:12.529 --> 54:13.990 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize we had been recording that long. 54:14.090 --> 54:14.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 54:14.510 --> 54:17.350 [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, good to know my water awareness. 54:18.090 --> 54:23.251 [SPEAKER_00]: But okay, we're gonna wrap this conversation up because we've got work from time now that we've been recording for a while. 54:23.271 --> 54:23.351 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 54:23.832 --> 54:30.413 [SPEAKER_00]: And to take the segue, I, as we were about to drop down into the Mary Magdalene Yeshua of Conversation. 54:30.433 --> 54:30.513 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 54:31.093 --> 54:32.835 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start fresh on a new episode. 54:32.955 --> 54:33.656 [SPEAKER_00]: So listen to this. 54:33.796 --> 54:34.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Go listen to the other one now. 54:34.657 --> 54:35.838 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to continue the conversation. 54:36.478 --> 54:43.145 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have questions for you around your channel and around some of these concepts that we've been talking about more recently. 54:43.405 --> 54:45.567 [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to pick your brain more on some of these concepts too. 54:45.847 --> 54:46.048 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool. 54:46.068 --> 54:46.548 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it. 54:46.568 --> 54:46.728 [SPEAKER_00]: Cool. 54:47.009 --> 54:47.209 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 54:47.829 --> 54:48.009 [SPEAKER_00]: Boom. 54:48.830 --> 54:51.291 [SPEAKER_02]: Huge thank you to Joshua for coming on the podcast. 54:51.331 --> 54:57.373 [SPEAKER_02]: You can connect further with him at Joshua Dean Church on Instagram and his website Joshua Dean Church.com. 54:57.834 --> 55:08.137 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're in San Diego, come see us live on Thursday, August twenty first for our live podcast and Q&A on the masculine void and the feminine response. 55:08.157 --> 55:10.298 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be very juicy. 55:10.498 --> 55:17.081 [SPEAKER_02]: Links will be below so you can sign up to come see us live in North County, San Diego. 55:18.121 --> 55:19.662 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's gonna be it for today's show. 55:19.702 --> 55:23.243 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a part two coming at you very soon. 55:24.724 --> 55:26.444 [SPEAKER_02]: And you won't want to miss that either. 55:26.785 --> 55:27.825 [SPEAKER_02]: But that's gonna be it for today. 55:28.205 --> 55:29.586 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much for hanging out with us. 55:29.686 --> 55:32.807 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope you have an amazing rest of your day and I'll chat with you again next time.