บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ SOMETIMES IT COULD BE MORE THAN JUST A DREAM

Are on the road, and then October the sixteenth versus the Miami Heat at the Key Center. So, uh, you know, put those dates in your calendars respectively, and we'll see how that goes Uh love. Lebron James is making his seventy six ers debut versus the Knicks. 00:05:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to see how how that goes down. 00:05:21 Speaker 3: Their season starts up versus the Knicks, So congratulations, that's going to be the tip off game on that day. We're gonna get Boston Celtics versus Detroit Pistons Tuesday, October twentieth, and then we get seventy six Ers versus the Knicks at the seven o'clock game. That's one of the things that's going to happen with the seventy six ers. We're going to see them a lot on TV. Unfortunately or fortunately depends on whow you know, where you end up on this. We had a couple in WNBA games last night. We had the Storm defeat the Sky ninety seven to eighty eight and the Dream defeat the Tempo one seven to ninety five. 00:05:58 Speaker 1: What do you think people call him for the them to fire the coach of the of thee because she defended the girl that uh did a freak flavorite foul on Sophie Cunningham. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: She didn't defend Sophie Cunningham. 00:06:15 Speaker 1: People are the whole thing is out there, it's all the controversy out there. Well, she's only defending her because she's a lesbian and the girls a lesbian, and she only defends the lesbians. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Uh have you seen and now they're calling for seen any of that? Oh? Yeah, it's all over. Yeah. 00:06:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's all the scubble butt with like Steven A and all those guys. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: They're they're all talking about that. That yeah, exactly. Uh. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: If they're looking to fire her, then fire her because your team's not performing. 00:06:42 Speaker 1: Uh that's oh no, they're they're they're actually playing well, they're they're in something fifth place now. But well, because she's every time either Caitlin Clark or Sophie Cunningham gets fouled or there's some kind of a technical whatever, she has been defending the person that committed on the other team. 00:06:59 Speaker 2: She doesn't defend her own team. 00:07:01 Speaker 1: And there are people that are saying that, well, it's because she happens to be a GP, like to get whatever, she happens to be lesbian, and she protects the lesbian girls and not her own teammates, is what the argument is in the world. 00:07:16 Speaker 2: Of w NBA. 00:07:17 Speaker 4: But as a business, then you say, if we're winning, then we're winning, and you don't. 00:07:21 Speaker 5: Fire her because of that, you know what I mean? 00:07:24 Speaker 4: Like, if the team's doing well, then you wait till the end of the season and then you say, hey, listen, this didn't really work out, because then you can add in everything else, but otherwise she's a coach to be a coach of basketball, not to be a coach of like outside things, right, Am I wrong? 00:07:39 Speaker 2:

I don't know. 00:07:40 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that seems to be the narrative now, is that she should. 00:07:45 Speaker 3: Be fired or not just I don't have I don't I don't have the capability to have these conversations or entertain these conversations, because again, it's talking heads that have no interest in the league. If you go back and actually look at the quote from the coach, all she said was that she didn't believe the contact to the neck was intentional. She believed in the ejection, she believed in the foul and the and the foul or or calling the foul of it. That's yeah, it was fast paced. I mean like, yeah, it's a hard foul whatever. Yeah, but that's the exact speed. But that's what I'm saying. So that's the exact quote from the coach. 00:08:21 Speaker 2: I just looked it up. That's what she was quoted. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: And so then you've got all these other heads that are talking about it, and it attracts people that are don't give a damn about w NBA attracts people that don't care and they're using this bad faith arguments. Oh and and then it comes out, oh, she's just doing that because she's supporting lesbians. There's nothing that indicates that in any of the statements. So I'm I'm on the back foot trying to have these conversations because I. 00:08:46 Speaker 2: Don't know what to say. 00:08:48 Speaker 3: So but uh, yeah, but if they again, like if they want to fire of her, fire her for her. 00:08:55 Speaker 2: You know, poor performance. 00:08:57 Speaker 3: I know you're saying that they were in fifth place, but from the early reports of the preseason for that team, they I think they felt like they were going to be in the hunt at. 00:09:05 Speaker 2: West Well sure in one and two without that. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: So if there's a place that you want to have a legitimate argument, I don't think anybody would question firing her for your teams underperforming. 00:09:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the talking heads I'm talking about it's not just Steven A. Smith though, It's it's women that used to play in the w NBA who are now reporters for the w NBA. 00:09:25 Speaker 2: They're all arguing about it. 00:09:26 Speaker 1: It's a and once again, the WNBA is in the middle of controversy that. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with the actual game. 00:09:32 Speaker 1: It's about, you know, racism, because as soon as she as soon as she was ejected from the game, she goes back to the locker room and says, oh, that was white privilege. That's got a bunch of people, you know. So like like that particular player, that's a bad look for the w NBA. Like do you think she should be I don't know, find or get some sort of a penalty. I don't know, like some sort of find for that, like during the game. To make it about right. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: I'm certain that the w NBA has collective bargained rules about posting and because the day, you're not supposed to, because the NBA has, because the NFL has, like during the game, there are rules that you're not supposed to be posting, especially if you've been injected. So if she's violated one of those rules, then she absolutely should be, uh you know, whatever the agreements are with the league and the players. 00:10:19 Speaker 7: Yeah, punished, Yeah, yeah, And that's sponsor. 00:10:23 Speaker 2: Sports all right. 00:10:24 Speaker 1: We got Amy the counselors here, so we'll talk to her when we come back. Don't go anywhere. 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Our theme this year is sunglasses, so it should be it should be a lot of fun. 00:11:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:11:08 Speaker 1: I want to thank my my buddy Caaring the hat Lady for getting that together because Angel and Ryan kind of came up with the idea yesterday of sunglasses, and I'm like, well, what if we give people sunglasses? 00:11:18 Speaker 2: And I got hold of her. 00:11:19 Speaker 1: And she put it all together and she's very sweet and very nice, So I appreciate that. What's up you got, Angelique and Angel and Ryan Holmes and Amy the counselor is in with us today. 00:11:29 Speaker 2: How you doing, Amy, I'm so good. 00:11:30 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: You know you got your big show on Thursday. 00:11:33 Speaker 6: Thursday, I had a laugh out lounge and haven, yes, yes. 00:11:36 Speaker 1: Right down the street from where I live. So I've got no excuse not to come, even though I okay, what time does the show start? 00:11:42 Speaker 6: Eight o'clock? 00:11:42 Speaker 2: Eight o'clock. 00:11:43 Speaker 6: Okay, so if you're tired, I understand. 00:11:46 Speaker 2: Okay, So if. 00:11:47 Speaker 1: For some reason at about eight thirty forty five, yeah, I get No, one's gonna be. 00:11:53 Speaker 6: Mad, right, I'll make sure the whole crowd boos you when you leave. Yes, that's cool. 00:11:56 Speaker 2: What any kind of attention is fine with me? I got don't you remember I'm a. 00:12:05 Speaker 6: No you have to get up so early. So anytime any nurses, some of the best nurses, she said it timidly. I'm the best time, the best one. 00:12:16 Speaker 1: So what we do is we talk about things, and I'm like, oh, we got to ask Amy the counselor that one of the things that came up the other day, and I think Ryan brought it up about dreaming

about losing his teeth yesterday, was that it was that a reoccurring dream or you hadn't had the dream yet? 00:12:34 Speaker 2: Is that what? 00:12:34 Speaker 6: I have it all the time? 00:12:35 Speaker 2: Oh, you have it all the time. I've never had it. 00:12:37 Speaker 5: I've never had that dream. 00:12:38 Speaker 1: And I used to have it when I had money problems, you know, when I was younger and I was told that. Yeah, that's one of those That's one of the things that can be is if you have money problems, you have that dream about about your teeth falling out? 00:12:50 Speaker 2: Have you have you heard that? 00:12:51 Speaker 6: Or yeah, I've heard money problems. Just also anxiety. Like so if you are having dreams about falling, if you're having dreams about your teeth falling out and the reoccurring, it might be something that's happening with your anxiety that's like in your subconscious. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: In some And Okay, so who is it that did the initial studies on this that that claims that that is I think there's data. 00:13:13 Speaker 6: I don't think there's data. Oh there's not which we should do that would be so cool. I haven't really. It's always just been like, you know, I believe in astrology. Sorry, Ryan, but there's not a lot of data on it. Same thing with dreams, there's not a whole lot of data about dreams. It's just kind of people throughout center, you know, centuries that I've talked about them, that they think this is what it means. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: Oh, so there's no actual life. 00:13:32 Speaker 6: I have to look. I'll dig deeper. But I mean we didn't like learn about that in like college or anything. You know what I mean. It's more about how your anxiety or your emotions are affecting your dreams versus the topic. The topic. It doesn't mean that you're going to die or you know what I mean. It's more like I'm feeling anxious, so I'm going to have this kind of reoccurring dream that's a loop in my brain like a movie. 00:13:52 Speaker 1: Some of these theories that well Carl Jung said this, or or you know, I don't know Albert Einstein, he didn't do any of that stuff. 00:13:59 Speaker 2: But they're like there there you can pay yeah, yeah, But when it comes to dreams, so there's no Uh. 00:14:06 Speaker 6: I don't believe there's like a study that they did in labs or anything like that. But I'll look into that, but I don't think there is. 00:14:12 Speaker 1: Okay, and then the angel's reoccurring dream is he talked about this yesterday is that it's like his last conversation with his brother, and he keeps out how many years that been now, twenty year, twenty, same reoccurring dream. 00:14:24 Speaker 6: I think with that kind of stuff, it's probably the unresolved parts of it, right, So your brain, I don't want to speak for you, Angel, but your brain's trying to fix it. And so if you have unresolved issues, unresolved trauma, then yeah, your brain's gonna read do that. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: Well, it comes down to uh even

I mean, it's always always comes down to that. I feel like I missed something, right because I spoke to him the day before. Yeah, and so one of our last conversations again, I was I've said this before. I was just finishing art sake my acting classes at Art State and had a really cool class and everything, and I called him that night and shared that with him and everything, and and like you know, you always go back and I'm like, what did I miss that? 00:15:03 Speaker 2: I miss something? There was something there was there, you know, that kind of thing. 00:15:06 Speaker 6: So that looping. So you'll have that a lot in dreams. Yeah, especially if it's something from your life, you know what I mean. So it's like your brain wants to fix it. And if there's not a solution, and maybe if you haven't gone to therapy to really process it, it's gonna keep on reliving in your brain until I. 00:15:20 Speaker 3: Took a long time to get to the point where because you've done a lot of therapy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, So but for like ten years there I didn't And you know, my therapy was at the end of a bottle, you know, right, right, so that I could try to fall asleep. 00:15:35 Speaker 6: Yeah, yep. 00:15:35 Speaker 8: And then I talked about yesterday when I tried just getting over it, therapy from riots, just get over it. 00:15:43 Speaker 6: Just don't care. 00:15:44 Speaker 2: I don't care. 00:15:46 Speaker 1: The the recurring dream I keep having is and this I probably for the past eight years or whatever, is I'm trying to get hold of Mary Ellen, and I can't get hold of it. My phone won't work, i can't find her, I can't get hold of it. I'm afraid that there's something going on with her, and I'm desperately trying to find her. That's that's my reoccurrence. 00:16:03 Speaker 6: So that I would imagine might be around your anxiety about like your wanting to make this marriage work. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're. 00:16:12 Speaker 6: Maybe thinking about the past ones that maybe have it. Yeah, that could be that anxiety, so that you know, how often do you have in that one? 00:16:24 Speaker 2: Wow? I would say once a week at least I have. I have that dream and. 00:16:30 Speaker 1: In my dream, Oh, I know what's going to happen. I know I'm going to try to call her and it's not gonna work. Like I'm talking to myself in my dream, like, and I'm like, i can't get home and mary Elle, and I'm aware that I'm dreaming this, but it's all part. 00:16:43 Speaker 6: Of the you know, the thing that's fascinating. What does Mary Ellen say about it? 00:16:47 Speaker 1: Oh, she just said I've told her about it suppertimes. She just thinks it's cute, you know. She's like, don't worry, honey, I'm. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: Here, you know. 00:16:54 Speaker 6: So I guess something inside it. God, bless you. Got to be about Ryan. I'm doing a show no one was paying attention to me. 00:17:06 Speaker 2: Body reacts. 00:17:07 Speaker 8: The Allergic Narcissist is my new name of my new comedy album. 00:17:12 Speaker 6: So figuring out why the anxiety is there and maybe how to resolve that for you if you don't want to have that dream anymore, might be an option for you. 00:17:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like a good option. How about you, Angelie, Do you do you have a reoccurring dream? 00:17:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the one that I can like really talk about would be that I am going I'm in an argument or I'm trying to I'm trying to defend myself, really is what it is. And I go to punch and it's almost like I'm in water and I'm just sitting there, like my god, please hurry up before they get you know what I mean? Like I got that one too, so slow, and I don't understand. 00:17:48 Speaker 2: Why no power to the punch. 00:17:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, but and I can. 00:17:51 Speaker 4: Like visually see it so slow, and like then I start getting worried, like, oh my gosh, they're going to get me because I just can't what is wrong? 00:18:00 Speaker 5: And I connect. I end up connecting like. 00:18:03 Speaker 2: Ryan too, Yes, me too, Oh my. 00:18:06 Speaker 6: God, are we going to dream? 00:18:08 Speaker 2: Now? This is real. 00:18:11 Speaker 6: I'm just glad it's about me again. Ryan's dream. We're all a limit it. That's a fascinating one. I don't think I've heard that one before. And when you wake up, how are you feeling. 00:18:20 Speaker 4: I'm I'm tired. I feel anxious in the sense of I really I'm not anxious when it's like starting to happen. It's when I can't move faster. It's when I cannot connect faster than I'm like, oh my gosh, this might get me before I'm able to stop it, and I'm in trouble. 00:18:41 Speaker 2: So that's that's what you've never heard of that one. Before I had that. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: I thought that dream was as common as I dream I'm flying or my teeth are falling out, like the one where you're fighting and you've got no power in your punches and stuff. I thought was like a universal thing. Have you had that one before? Angel a version of that? 00:18:57 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like in the sense of, uh, it's almost but mine turns into like sleep paralysis. 00:19:03 Speaker 2: Right. So I'm in a. 00:19:04 Speaker 3: Situation where I'm trying to, you know, either protect myself or fight and I can't not only not get it off and it's slow. 00:19:12 Speaker 7: I can't. 00:19:12 Speaker 8: I used to wake up and I used to have it more, but now it's I can't load a gun correctly. 00:19:19 Speaker 6: Are you being serious? 00:19:20 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:19:20 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like it's like I'm trying to, like. 00:19:24 Speaker 8: And I'm fumbling the bullets, can't get it in, can't get the gun ready to go. 00:19:28 Speaker 1: It sounds a lot like I can't get my phone to work, I can't get technology to work, and I can't get hold of my wife. 00:19:33 Speaker 2: Uh, that's weird. 00:19:35 Speaker 6: So maybe it all comes dound to like not feeling like you're in control, and that's an uncomfortable feeling, especially

if somebody is coming after you, right, And that's really what the dream means. It's it's not always just about the topic. It's about how it makes you feel and why you're why your brain's replaying that, Like what's the reason for each person? It might be a little bit different. Yeah, I had like crazy dreams the other day. And it's funny because someone was I. 00:19:59 Speaker 4: Was talking somebody in there like, oh, I don't remember my dreams, and I'm like, yeah, but you do dream all the time, you just don't always remember it. 00:20:04 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:20:05 Speaker 5: And then it's when you do remember it. 00:20:07 Speaker 4: And then those times where it's like those almost like you're tripping on something and you're like. 00:20:12 Speaker 5: Wait, how is I here and then there? And how does this connect with that? 00:20:16 Speaker 2: What does it mean? 00:20:17 Speaker 8: When like my wife is telling me about her dream and I could care less. 00:20:23 Speaker 6: That you're a bad husband because that's her subconscious talking. 00:20:27 Speaker 2: There's a lot to get from whatever. 00:20:29 Speaker 8: I'm just telling a stream it's not real, it's not real five times and then walk away. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: But it is kind of real, isn't it? Like Canaan, would you Amy, would you say that a dream like that? 00:20:38 Speaker 1: I mean it's not straightforward message, but there is a message in a dream. 00:20:42 Speaker 6: Absolutely. It's part of you, right, and it's part of your brain, and it's part of your brain that's uncensored in a way that could teach you about the person that you are, about your wife. So if you want to know about your wife, Ryan, he's not even listening. I think it's playing. I just don't care about people's dreams other than mine. 00:21:01 Speaker 8: Because you can't understand them. Like I would have been terrible watching Martin Luther King. 00:21:05 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 00:21:06 Speaker 6: It was like it starts with I have a dream and like, don't care. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: Already? Not mom? 00:21:13 Speaker 5: What about like the cheating one? 00:21:15 Speaker 4: When you wake up and you feel like you have a dream that your spouse is cheated and the person that you're with has cheated, and it's so real and it's so vivid you remember every single detail when you wake. 00:21:28 Speaker 1: Up and that's a woman there, that's not a guy thing. 00:21:36 Speaker 6: Really I think when guys cheating, their dreams are having a good time. 00:21:41 Speaker 5: Because what it's about the other person. 00:21:43 Speaker 1: Though the other day you said your wife will do that dream that you cheated or whatever and wake up and piste off at you. 00:21:48 Speaker 8: No, I dream that I cheated, and I'm like, oh my god, I ruined my life, and then I wake up so relieved that I did not. 00:21:54 Speaker 6: Oh that's nice, Well that's nice. It's just like, yeah, yeah, yuys. 00:21:58 Speaker 3: Ever have to dream that you're on top of a volcano completely naked and it's surrounded by busty women just all around you, and they're all throwing small pickles at you. 00:22:10 Speaker 6: Recurring. 00:22:11 Speaker 2: No, I'm just asking. 00:22:15 Speaker 6: I had dream last night that made no sense. 00:22:17 Speaker 8: Sometimes I have one of those dreams where I'm just like, where did that even come from? And it was like very vivid, and it was I'm with my ex girlfriend's dad and I never I only met this dude once in my entire life. I don't know why I'm dreaming about this dude and he's yelling at me about my student loans and I'm like, you dumb ass bits you declare bankruptcy on your student loans. 00:22:37 Speaker 6: You don't even talk to me about student loans. What where did that even come? 00:22:40 Speaker 2: Why are you arguing? 00:22:41 Speaker 6: What the hell was that even about? But it did remind me I need to pay my student loans, that's yeah, right, So if there's an unresolved thing in your life, it's going to come up in your dreams for sure. 00:22:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's your subconscious, right. 00:22:50 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:22:51 Speaker 1: There was a story that I was reading and I deleted it so I can't find it. I think it was like thirty two percent. I think it was a gen z. They make major decisions in their life because of dreams. Like if they dream about I should quit my job, they're like doing it. 00:23:05 Speaker 6: Now they do. That's interesting, healthy or not healthy? If you can trust yourself right, right, If you're in your daily life, if you're you know, tuning into yourself and you feel like you're not suppressing things, right, If you're suppressing things during the day and then you only listen to your dreams later, then you could have some problems. But the more you're bringing your subconscious to your conscious, which they talk about with you know, Freud and everything like that, then then yes, follow that because turning off your frontal lobe can be really helpful sometimes because your frontallobe is doing the anxiety, and like what if, what if when you get that off and you're doing sleeping or sometimes drugs like people with like katamine therapy, that's what they're doing. They're turning that frontallobe off so they can be clear and see things clearly. 00:23:45 Speaker 1: For years after said this before, but for years and years, like some of my best ideas with the show have been from a dream. It's true though, Like I know, yeah, I come up with this silly idea and I'm like, wow, I really should try to do that. 00:23:59 Speaker 2: Yeah you right, Yeah it works out. 00:24:01 Speaker 6: And why not right now? If it's saying, you know, I should leave my wife and build a fountain in my backyard, maybe don't do that. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: No, on the real have you ever had a dream that it's almost feels like our premonition so that when the moment happens in real life you're doubting the moment. 00:24:21 Speaker 6: No, what happened with that

angel? Tell me, like that's happened to you? 00:24:24 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:24:24 Speaker 6: Like what kind of stuff? 00:24:26 Speaker 3: Just different interactions and stuff. And I don't know if if if I subconsciously was like playing it out in my head kind of thing, but I've had these. I've been in circumstances where I'm doubt I'm in the moment, and I'm doubting that that moment's real because because. 00:24:42 Speaker 2: I've dreamt it. 00:24:43 Speaker 6: That's fast. I mean, I think tapping into all that is really interesting, like tapping into your energy, tapping into the future, in the past. Like, it's all a linear line. So the more you just dig into it and find out what it means for yourself, the better it's going to be. 00:24:55 Speaker 7: So then. 00:25:00 Speaker 6: Real genius is reverenced. 00:25:01 Speaker 2: Yes it is. 00:25:03 Speaker 6: I got to keep on going. 00:25:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, if if people want to get tickets for Thursday at the laugh Out Lounge, they have a. 00:25:09 Speaker 6: Website Laughoutlounge dot com. At eight o'clock. I also have some free tickets left, so feel free to email me at Flcomedy Collective dot com. I can get you some free tickets. It's gonna be so fun. 00:25:22 Speaker 1: Okay, looking forward to it, and I'm coming out with my wife, so I'm looking forward to it. All right, We'll take a little bit of a break. I got we got more with Amy the counselor don't go anywhere you're listening to the Monsters the Morning. 00:25:32 Speaker 2: Welcome oume to the monsters. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: Morning's our Radio one on four point one broadcasting. 00:25:36 Speaker 2: Live on iHeartRadio. 00:25:38 Speaker 1: Remember on the iHeartRadio app, you can click on that microphone, leave us a message and we'll play those at the top of the hour and at the end of the show, so you have a whole segment at the end of the show where we play those. Just go to the iHeartRadio app. You'll see the microphone and click on it. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: What's up. 00:25:52 Speaker 1: I'm Russ with angel and Ryan Angelique the Dance and Queen, and we got Amy the Counselor here with us. 00:25:57 Speaker 2: Today and I got I actually have a question. 00:26:00 Speaker 1: And if if you got a question for Amy, you can text us at seven seven zero three one that seven seven zero three one and we'll throw out I don't see what she's says. We're talking about the dreams and sleep and stuff. And I've got someone here who's asking, Hey, ask the counselor about sleep walking and talking in your sleep and if it's generational, because my wife does this like she like the other the other day I think it was Saturday morning. I'm like, baby, why is the pillow and the refrigerator y? And oh, I swear to God stuff like that, and then uh and then the uh the screen door was wide open and the uh and the sprinkler was on in the little courtyard area. I'm like, did you do that in the middle of the night And she's like, she doesn't remember. Yeah, and so and her son

does the same kind of thing with sleep walking and talking and stuff. He like, what is that about? And is it generational? Is that something you can you know, if your mom does it, you do it too. Is that the way it works? 00:26:57 Speaker 6: So from personal experience, I sleepwalk, I you do. I wake up in weird places and I'm not drinking. My dad does, my grandpa does. So yeah, absolutely it's generation. 00:27:08 Speaker 4: Wow, my daughter does, but I or she did when she was younger. Definitely, but I don't. 00:27:14 Speaker 2: You know. 00:27:15 Speaker 6: And it can be stress related to you. So sometimes if people are really really stressed and they are overwhelmed during the day, yes, then that can come out at nights. 00:27:22 Speaker 2: It's funny you. 00:27:23 Speaker 1: Say that, yeah, because she hasn't been stressed in a while, and there was a little stressful thing happened the other. 00:27:28 Speaker 2: Day and that's the first time it's happened in months. 00:27:31 Speaker 1: But when she worked all the time, it happened constantly and you wouldn't even know, like you would think that she's awake. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: Right, so you have the same thing. 00:27:39 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean I'd like to woke it up outside. I've had conversations. I've peed on things. Yeah, like not like I'll get up and go and walk on fee on something like I beed in our kitchen one time and my husband's like, what are you doing? I was like, is this bad? And then I didn't know until the next day. And you don't know what you're doing. It's it's like living another life. It's terrified. I hate it. 00:28:00 Speaker 2: No a lot. 00:28:00 Speaker 1: Mary Ellen has gone to a lot of counselor stuff, and they seem to believe it was PTSD. Might because being a paramedic, she's seen. 00:28:08 Speaker 6: A lot of horr the thing and she had any I mean, you'll have to tell me. But sometimes if someone's on ambient or certain nighttime medicine, they'll also do that, or they'll walk and eat and things like that. 00:28:17 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sometimes she'll take benadrilla or. 00:28:19 Speaker 6: Whatever certain medicines will make you do. It'll turn off your again, your frontal cortex and you start walking around or if you're drinking. Sometimes if people drink alcohol, even a couple of alcohol drinks can cause that as well. 00:28:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, eat, Like she would get up and like eat a little bit and not remember it. Yeah, but I'll never forget the one time that she just got up and there was a tiny mirror in her room and she just stared into the mirror and said, please tell him to stop watching me. 00:28:43 Speaker 5: Please, please tell him to stop watching. And I was like, what is happening. 00:28:47 Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's scared. 00:28:49 Speaker 5: Yes, And it was like, it's time to sage. 00:28:52 Speaker 6: Have you noticed it more when during expresshold times during school time she. 00:28:55 Speaker 5: Was younger, I don't. I don't feel that

she does it anymore. Like I haven't really seen her sleepwalk. 00:29:01 Speaker 4: She's an adult now, but I know she talks in her sleep a lot of college. 00:29:06 Speaker 6: He's a sleepwalker. It's still is as an adult. 00:29:09 Speaker 8: And imagine but like I woke up one night to like hearing all this noise in our apartment and he would think the next door and I go down here on this noise and he's just standing there in his underwear eating spaghetti out of a bag. Yeah, dude, what are you doing? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm like, oh game, I'm just gonna go. 00:29:28 Speaker 1: And it's weird, right, Like, yeah, you being you know, the normal person there. You think there's no way you don't know what's going on, but they don't. 00:29:36 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, you don't remember any of it. You don't know you're doing it. And like there's a movie called Sleepwalk with Me by Mark Mike Barbigdia where he has to have his wife put him in a hole full like straight jacket and because he would jump off, he jump through a window, jump through the window. My grandpa, My grandpa's also done stuff like that. So there isn't any great things that fix it except for like having yourself nailed down unfortunately. 00:29:59 Speaker 2: So, dude, think yours is stress related. 00:30:02 Speaker 6: Mine was substance related, for sure. I used to drink a party a lot, and that's when would happen the most. And then yeah, I think when I'm not feeling great or I'm over stimulated, I will talk more and walk. Yeah, I think mine's all stress related for sure. Instance, when you were partying, you were doing it in blazers. Oh yes, yes, I was in heels and slacks. Business casual, business casual, friend. I know. I love her. Everyone's love. Yesterday you guys talked to her. She was so great. Yeah. We went to Eyebar and we brought big purses and we danced around them and it was a good time. 00:30:36 Speaker 2: You put them in the middle. 00:30:37 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'd dance around our purses at Eyebar. Yes. And our business yeah, which is like business casual, which is business witches. 00:30:45 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, and your counselor so you can tell me to hush. Do you ever miss drinking? 00:30:49 Speaker 6: Yes? Every day. 00:30:51 Speaker 1: Well, I bring that up because it's in the news. It's in the news today. Brad Pitt for seven years, e seven years he didn't drink, and now he does an interview and he brings up the Yeah, I start drinking again. I only drank a couple Now, you know I can I can control myself. Uh, And he says, he's fine, I now have more restraint than I used to. That he thinks, and a lot and a lot of people are are are negative against him, like, oh, you don't know what you're doing. 00:31:17 Speaker 2: This is bad, you know. 00:31:19 Speaker 1: So is it possible for him to go to not drink for seven years and then uh, he's got it? I guess he's got a new girl or whatever and to be able to just have a couple of wines with her and everything is fine or is that not possible. 00:31:32 Speaker 6: I've seen it happen. And what I say to people too about like you know this kind of stuff like with addiction. For me, like if I I like cake, right, and even though I stop drinking or eating cake, does that mean I don't want cake it No, I'm always gonna want it right. And for me, I know, if I have one wine, I'm gonna have nine wines. That's just who I am. And I think Brad Pitt has just German. That's a good thing. Zero wines, Zero wines. You're saying anyways, moving on, I don't get the chip. Yeah, no, I just said on the rate, So listen. I think what Brad Pitt did, and I don't know him, he just changed his surroundings so he's around people that don't mind his drinking. He doesn't have his kids around him anymore, he doesn't have his life to be right, so he probably is just getting people around him that don't mind his drinking for now. 00:32:18 Speaker 3: Because like not all the details out, but just the details that are out now about what happened with him and his kids while he was drinking are horrific. 00:32:26 Speaker 2: That so the idea. So there's like five of the kids there right now, changing the last name. 00:32:34 Speaker 5: But I didn't see why I don't know his story behind him. 00:32:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's I mean, that was a core part of the divorce and everything. And and that's like what you're saying, Amy is a one hundred percent true. Uh, he's not not a let's say, an addict. Like the behavior that he's exhibited and the things that it's cost him with his relationship with his families. Uh, anybody looking at that would be Okay, you don't cure that. 00:32:58 Speaker 7: It's all it's a it's a man. You manage that every single day. 00:33:02 Speaker 1: He says the turning point in his life was going to alcohols anonymous in the twelve step program. But then you know, after he went through it, he said, Okay, no, I can come a couple. I don't think they do that. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's no step in the twelve steps. This says like, oh, after you've done it this long, you can go back to having a couple of drinks. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: Just have a couple of one. 00:33:18 Speaker 6: No, it doesn't, and that's the thing, like he'll just have to go through that cycle. The thing about addiction is it's always there. It's never fixed unfortunately. Like we talked about it last time I was here, some guys like, oh, I quit drinking, but I'm still sad, you know what I mean. It's always going to be there and not figuring out how to live fully without it. It's going to be a problem if you can't control yourself, which we've seen he cannot. 00:33:38 Speaker 1: He also admitted to having suicidal thoughts as he was navigating through a difficult period of time with family stuff, and uh, he said, you know, I never actually was really going to do it, but I was just imagining putting a bullet in my head. 00:33:52 Speaker 2: That's it. I don't know that red flag, yes

and no. 00:33:57 Speaker 6: Some people like to think morbidly makes them feel better. But for him to even talk about it, yeah, there might be some red flags there. He's probably I think, when people are that famous, nobody's being honest with them. So even if he goes to a therapist, it's gonna be Oh, Brad Pitt, you know what I mean. So I think there's something like him and like Johnny Depp and like people that are that famous, who surround themselves with that many people that are yessing and to them, right. I don't think that he's necessarily being honest with himself. I think he's creating a world where people tell him yes, oh yeah, go ahead and drink it. It's not that bad, you know. 00:34:29 Speaker 1: And for somebody like Brad Pitt, who doesn't do a lot of interview, it's like, why do this Esquire interview and admit all of these things that you know are gonna be controversial, that people are. 00:34:38 Speaker 5: Gonna be you know, does you have a new movie coming out? 00:34:41 Speaker 2: Not that I'm away, the one with a Dog? 00:34:44 Speaker 3: Actually the movie looks actually really good. 00:34:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think this would be why he's doing it. 00:34:50 Speaker 6: It's not because he's getting older and feeling irrelevant. 00:34:53 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's probably. I mean that's the most recent trailer for that. 00:34:55 Speaker 5: One one of the hottest yeah pieces. 00:34:59 Speaker 6: It's looking men look. 00:35:06 Speaker 3: And this is this goes back to what we were talking. This goes to the part talking about Jonah Hell with these guys and what you're saying, they're so insulated, Like Jonah Hills thought that that was a flex saying how bad he was with jiu jitsu. All that's done is put a bulls eye on him. Brad Pitt thinking that he's being forthcoming and and transparent with people. All this is going to do is people are going to watch you. 00:35:35 Speaker 2: Now, dude. 00:35:36 Speaker 3: People are going to watch you if they see you in public, they see you having a couple of drinks. Now you thought that you could do this stuff in private, people are gonna watch your every move. 00:35:44 Speaker 1: Well, here here's my question to you. Because Amy you you told us that you stopped drinking. So for me, I hear that story. I don't care one way the other way you did. But for you someone who is is uh now in the middle of not drinking and staying away from everything, and you hear him, I can just to how does that make you feel? 00:36:02 Speaker 6: I'm just I will wait for the other shoot to drop because I know me too, right, Like I could go have two drinks right now and I'll be cool for the first four times, let's good. But the fifth time I'm gonna be screaming and yelling and telling you know, hey, let's go race, and I'm gonna fall. And you know I know myself, right? Does he know himself? He might be so delusional from all the fame, he may not truly know himself. Hmm, you know. So again it always goes back to being honest with yourself and why why does he need it? Like, why does he has everything in the whole entire world, why does he need alcohol? 00:36:34 Speaker 2: Well, as you said, it's fun. 00:36:35 Speaker 6: It's fun. 00:36:36 Speaker 2: It's good. That's why that's why you miss it because yeah. 00:36:41 Speaker 5: Old self again, but not in that version, but in the fun version. 00:36:47 Speaker 3: Are not I mean yeah, but the percentages are not in this favor. And like you go talk to any you know, therapist or addiction specialists and everything. All he's done is put himself in a bad position. 00:36:58 Speaker 4: Correct, But I'm saying in his mind then he sees, Okay, I can be this fun version of me without being this extreme version of me. It's kind of like like bipolar right when they're like feeling better and they're like, oh, I don't need these meds. I'm kind of cool and I can be cool a certain time, and then they self medicate and it's like. 00:37:18 Speaker 3: That's a distraction. Because of his clothing line with his two thousand dollars shirts, they're awesome thousand dollars look up Brad Pitt's clothing life and look up his two thousand dollars thirty five hundred dollars shirts. 00:37:29 Speaker 2: Really yeah, all right, matt cheap. We got to take a little break out. 00:37:32 Speaker 1: I want to remind you, Amy the Counselor is going to be in winter Haven at the laugh Out Lounge on Thursday night. Gets your tickets. I'll be there Tuesday. I'll be there for a little while, at least at least twenty minutes or so. 00:37:44 Speaker 6: These shirts are come on, are you were you joking? 00:37:48 Speaker 7: No, they're awesome. 00:37:50 Speaker 6: They're calling it God's Kashmir. But it's flying all. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: That's one of them. But that Kashmir. 00:37:55 Speaker 6: Look at that, I mean angel, They're not angel. 00:38:00 Speaker 5: You know, we all look Matthew McConaughey. 00:38:03 Speaker 6: All of you are unsophisticated. 00:38:06 Speaker 3: All of you are unsophisticated. Don't know how to appreciate Kashmir. 00:38:09 Speaker 6: I appreciate that. 00:38:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, broad taking where anything and like. 00:38:14 Speaker 6: It some tassels. I'm gonna love it. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: All right, We got to. 00:38:17 Speaker 1: Take a break. I think Detective Barb will be with us when we come back. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to the March of the Morning