บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ S2 | E2 Michelle Bazinet — What Actually Works for Your Body in Midlife

00:04:57.759 So I created a program for women in which we really work on building really simple habits and we do things in a drastically different way where we just take our time and we do things really slowly and we build our build some habits and set women up to win in a way in which they never feel like they have to diet and in a way in which they're not just chasing a smaller body. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:04.800 Like I really want women, especially in these midlife years, to start thinking about like fuck the smaller body. 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.519 Let's get stronger, let's think about how we want to feel in the decades to come. 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.040 What do we want to be doing? 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:13.839 We want to be living independently when we're seven and eighty. 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:15.279 Okay, what do we need to do now? 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:16.560 We need to get strong. 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:23.120 So we're shifting that focus with women and helping them look at things in a different way that they're not usually taught. 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:24.720 Love that. 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:25.759 Love that. 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.879 So for our listeners at home, did you just hear that? 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.319 Stop what you're doing. 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.399 And did you just hear what Michelle said? 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:45.680 It's about creating longevity, longevity for our bodies and sustaining and fueling our bodies and what we need into the second act of our life. 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:54.959 Um, not it's for want of a better term, the diet, and I actually owned uh uh to answer your question from earlier, Michelle. 00:05:55.040 --> 00:06:00.000 I actually owned a women's health facility for six years myself at the Curves Women's Gym. 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:04.319 And the reason I went into it was to help women. 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:09.199 I've worked in many arenas helping women for a long, long time myself. 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:24.959 I soon realized that the diet communicate cultures are a trillion, trillion, trillion dollar industry that don't get me wrong, they've got their place, but they're there to make us feel less than. 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.959 And as you were saying before, we often don't know what our steps are. 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.920 If we can just take the first step to get the correct guidance, coaching, help. 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:41.360 It's like following um the yellow brick road from the Wizard of Oz or the crumbs for Hansel and Gretel. 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.800 It's for those people that don't know Hansel and Gretel, yeah, you can look it up. 00:06:45.040 --> 00:07:05.199 But it it's it's a we now need to be women that expand our mind, boom, and go, what do I need to sustain me correctly into my second half of my life rather than a culture where I need yes, if you need to do weight loss, that's important. 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.279 However, I like what you were chatting about as well. 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:17.279 That for some to some degree, Michelle, would you agree with this that we shrink our bodies, but we also shrink our voice. 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:24.800 And if our mind doesn't keep up with what's what's going on with dieting, etc., we lose another part of ourselves. 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:25.600 Would you agree with that? 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:26.720 100%. 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.959 100% because we need to change our identity when we are on this journey. 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:40.319 We really have to change the way in which we are looking at ourselves, the looking at the reason why we're doing things and really setting ourselves up for success. 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:49.759 Because what we're really good at is we're we're chasing fast things, we're chasing things that sound sexy and that can get you like quick results. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:53.199 And women are spending so much money, they're wasting their money. 00:07:53.360 --> 00:08:08.480 And I see it, I see it online, and it breaks my heart when I see women who are chasing fad things because that they want to feel better in their bodies, and they think though, they actually think that getting into the smaller body is going to make them feel better about themselves. 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:15.839 At the end of the day, they're not chasing the smaller body, they're chasing a feeling that they think they're going to experience in that smaller body. 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.199 They think they're going to feel confident, they think they're going to be loved more. 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:21.680 They maybe think they'll love themselves more. 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:28.879 So instead of chasing that, let's work on how we can love ourselves more? 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:30.879 How can we build ourselves up more? 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.480 How can we build habits in our lives which make us feel good? 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:40.080 Because I always say to someone, like, you, it just starts with doing like the littlest thing. 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:48.240 Instead of buying the plan and thinking we have to change all of these things on that list on a Monday morning that we're going to start being this different person. 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:49.759 Start with one thing. 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:52.000 We're not an on and off switch, right? 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:58.320 We're not that person who turns on in a Monday and we have the skills, disciplines, and habits to do what these programs sell us. 00:08:58.480 --> 00:08:59.919 Let's be a dimmer switch. 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.240 Let's dial that dimmer up. 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.440 What is the one little thing that you can dial up? 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:15.519 Like I want to create freedom for women to be able to know that every day looks different, every situation is different, every season is different, and every every day is different. 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:21.840 So we're gonna

dial up and do the best that you can in that day, and it's gonna look different than the next day, and that is okay. 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:27.360 And create from some freedom in this space to create the habits to help them feel better. 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.279 Because when we do better, we feel better. 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:31.600 When we do good things for us, it feels better. 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:38.559 Instead of sitting at home and thinking I should go for a walk and I should go to the gym and I should eat a certain way, like all of that feels so heavy. 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:45.279 And for people like I have ex I had conversations with women who feel like I don't have time to work out for 45 minutes. 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:46.879 Well, who says you have to? 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:53.039 You can go and you can put one song on and you can go for a walk for just one song. 00:09:53.279 --> 00:10:00.000 Because you going for a walk for one song is going to make you feel better than sitting on the sofa thinking about all the things that you need to do. 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:01.200 Right? 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.759 You drinking an extra glass of water is going to make you feel better than overhauling your diet. 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:13.679 You starting your breakfast with protein is going to make you feel better than struggling all day with having to like modify your whole diet. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:25.120 So when we take some actions that take us closer to the person we wish to become, like we have to, every action is a vote for the person you wish to become. 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:38.480 And do do those things and become her instead of just going through the motions and acting like someone without kind of taking your internal self along with you, that makes any sense. 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:41.120 Taking your head and your heart along with you. 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:54.399 And I think if we can pause on that for a moment for our listeners and the lady at home, the woman at home that's you know, maybe elbow deep in the dishes at the moment and or thinking, I have to do the vacuum next, what's next, what's next, what's next. 00:10:54.559 --> 00:11:07.600 And I like what you touched on, Michelle, that it's very important that if we can just stop, breathe, and um, you know, for the lady at home, who are you? 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.679 What what what's happening for you in that moment? 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:19.440 Can you hear what Michelle is saying that if you're thinking in that moment purchasing that diet that I'm going to on the whatever it is, the 2nd of January, starting that? 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:25.840 However, is that really what is going to make you feel better about yourself, as Michelle's saying? 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:33.759 Is that going to make you feel better in that 14 days challenge or the 20-day challenge, whatever it may be? 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:35.840 Is that going to change here? 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:38.960 Is that it's it's such a journey? 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:55.039 And I like what you talk about too, Michelle, in that so many women, I think uh including yourself, we hit this point when we don't know what to do through lack of education and some self-love and self-respect, where we white knuckle it, so to speak. 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.279 That white knuckle that you talk about. 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:06.080 It's like, oh, if I just hang on and if I hold my breath for forever, I might just come out the other side live and be okay. 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.480 It's not what we want for women, right? 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.360 We want we want better. 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:13.360 As you were saying, we want better. 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.720 And when when we do better or feel better, we do better. 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.879 Yes, yes, a hundred percent. 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:34.320 Um and the other thing you were saying, uh the other thing you talk about too is when we stop obsessing about what we're not eating or the calories that we've burnt or not burnt today, life becomes a whole lot happier. 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:35.679 Would you agree with that, Michelle? 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:37.840 100%, a hundred percent. 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:38.480 Yeah. 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:48.399 I I think there's like a time and place for tools that that women can do in order to achieve whatever it is that they're looking for. 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:54.000 And when I speak of anything in regards to our bodies and our health and fitness space, like you said, it's not just about weight loss. 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:55.600 A lot of times it's weight management. 00:12:55.759 --> 00:13:02.000 There are it's an important piece, especially in these midlife years, to consider, okay, how can I manage my weight? 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.320 Manage my weight can be how can I stay this weight? 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:13.120 Maybe you want to gain weight, maybe you want to lose weight, whatever it is, to have your body function optimally for you, whatever that looks like for you. 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:14.879 You know, how can we move our bodies? 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:16.799 For me, it's the movement, that's a big thing too. 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:18.879 How can we move our bodies more? 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:33.600 Um, and and do these things uh to really be in a place where we can like move with ease and we can you know go on vacations when we're a little bit older, we can play with the grandchildren. 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:40.240 And and it's and it is tough when we are in this is a lot of some people can be in some really busy seasons right now. 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:47.679 And if you're listening to this and you're in a really busy season, you just know that every season that we're in, they're they're temporary, right? 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:52.960 We're gonna have some busy seasons, we're gonna have some seasons that kind of flow with a bit

more ease. 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:56.320 And again, everything looks different in each season. 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.200 When I teach my group fitness classes, I always say to someone, I want you to do your best today. 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.519 And doing your best today is gonna look different than doing your best yesterday. 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:13.759 If you maybe are under the weather or you're very stressed right now, your best is gonna look different than when you had a really great sleep and you're feeling very energized. 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:22.879 So it's not about judging how you how you feel or how you're doing things, it's just understanding that am I doing, am I doing my best? 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:26.159 And that's all you can ask yourself for is to do your best. 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:28.960 I I think that's great. 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:31.519 Today is different to yesterday. 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:36.799 A lot of women in midlife uh are having trouble sleeping. 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:42.559 So if you've been awake half the night and you go, okay, and I've done it, I put my hand up to it. 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.240 Oh, uh I have been awake since 3 a.m. 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:47.200 or 2 a.m. 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:52.320 And I need to go to my Pilates class today or my Aqua class. 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.759 I'm feeling washed out, but I better go. 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:57.039 I better go. 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.679 You know, I need to go because I need to go. 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:08.720 Uh and you have this mental, emotional wrestling match with yourself before you would you agree with that, Dickie? 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:09.360 100%. 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:15.039 It's heavy, it's taxing, it's so taxing the negotiation that we do. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:19.600 We do so much negotiating, self-negotiing right. 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:23.120 And I I teach very early classes at 6 a.m. 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:31.279 And I always say my my big tip for any woman out there, I'll just can I actually just share a tip, something that really served me well in these years. 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:32.639 I have three children. 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.360 Uh, I wanted to be more consistent in the gym. 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.159 I love working out, but found it hard in my schedule at times. 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:43.919 So I made a decision a year and a half ago, almost two years ago, to do all of my workouts before my kids went to school. 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:45.679 So I need to be home by 7 a.m. 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:47.600 So my workouts done by 7 a.m. 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:56.320 And I told myself a story for a really long time that I couldn't work out that early every day because I would like every day I would get more tired. 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:59.759 It would just build up the fatigue because I'm doing it day after day. 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.399 And I thought, okay, again, we tell ourselves a lot of stories. 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:04.399 I said, no, I'm just gonna do it. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:14.559 I can say, with just my truth here is that it has been the biggest blessing in my life making this decision because over time it has become a habit. 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:22.000 And me working out, getting up at 5.15 in the morning is just a part of who I am and what I do, the same way I get up and brush my teeth. 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.240 And I don't have to negotiate at night. 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:25.840 What time am I waking up tomorrow? 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:27.039 When am I working out tomorrow? 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:39.440 Like I have created so much space for me to be able to do other things because I know I'm setting my alarm for 5.15 and I know the second my alarm gets up, and this is what I teach my class, you do not lay there and think. 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:41.600 You move immediately. 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.840 Because you're good, you're really good at negotiating your way out of the workout if you stay in bed and start thinking. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:53.600 So I lay my clothes out the night before, my alarm goes off, I get up, I move, I get changed, and I go and I go to the gym. 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:55.519 With there's no thinking, it just is. 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.200 It just, if I'm tired, maybe I do less sets in my workout. 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:05.359 Maybe I cut my workout a little bit shorter because a shorter workout on most times is better than no workout. 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:10.160 There is the odd time that a woman may say, I need to sleep today, and that's okay. 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:11.839 There's nothing wrong with that. 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:16.160 But really trying to like stop the negotiating, right? 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:22.559 And really follow through and honor your word with what you said you would do because sometimes not honoring that word feels heavy. 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:23.519 I didn't do it. 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:25.359 Feels heavier than not going, right? 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.279 Yeah, I didn't do again. 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:31.119 I want like I want women who are listening to know that something is. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.240 I I preach, do not do all or nothing. 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.079 I'm not an all or nothing person. 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:37.440 It's it's something. 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.039 We can all do something. 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.759 And I mean something as little as do five squats in your kitchen while you're making dinner. 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.799 Pause and take three breaths if you need to do some form of meditation. 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:58.960 Um, what you can go for that five-minute walk or just walk down the street and back, doing a couple push-ups on the ground, you know, having, like I said, having that protein at breakfast. 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:02.319 It can, and some women may think, well, how does that matter?

00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:07.920 It matters because you go to bed at night putting your head on your pillow, knowing you did something. 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:12.160 And that that feels good, and we want to chase that good feeling. 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:20.799 And so when you say that you're getting up or you are getting up at 5 15, is that teaching or for your workout? 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:28.880 So Monday, Wednesday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I I get up for my own workout. 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:34.240 Two uh Thursdays I teach at 8 30, so I get to sleep in an extra hour, and Friday I teach at 6 a.m. 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:36.880 So it's a mixture of both. 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:39.200 So you have the mixture of yeah. 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:46.079 So for for people listening, for our listeners, I it it doesn't like you're saying, I love that approach. 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.799 It doesn't have to be all an all or nothing. 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:54.960 Michelle's made it that some of her week is teaching classes, and some of it's just for her. 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.759 And you know, we talk about doing something for you. 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:06.640 And it it may be look, I've been at home, it's okay for you ladies to get on here and talk about yes, yes, yeah, and I've heard it all before, la da da da da. 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:32.000 But if you've been at home all day with your children and you know, I just can't get out as your husband comes through the door or your wife, whoever your support person is, just say, I need five just to walk to the end of the street and back, as Michelle was saying, around the block, just some fresh air to reset here when you've been inside with children when it's been raining all day, or whatever your situation everyone's circumstance is different. 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:32.480 Yes. 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.960 But find that support person that can just relieve you for 15 minutes. 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.359 And I think I think we hear a lot about you need to do self-care. 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:47.680 So you need to go to the the most expensive hotel, run yourself a bath, and be away for a weekend. 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:49.279 It doesn't have to be like that. 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:49.920 No. 00:19:50.240 --> 00:20:01.279 No, you know how I I actually, when you talk about doing something for me, I got offered to teach another class, and I'm a bit of I can be a yes person sometimes, but my gut was saying to say no. 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:18.400 But so I said yes initially, and 24 hours later, I said, no, I need to not take, I don't want to take away from my workout because me being at the gym, putting my AirPods in, listening to music or an or a podcast, I always say that's kind of like my therapy. 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.279 Like it is my space, my time. 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.519 And for the ladies, it could be that walk with just being in your own space. 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:32.880 And I know, and I want to acknowledge that I wasn't able to do these early morning workouts when my kids were younger because the kids get up earlier. 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.200 Like my kids are 12, 14, and 16. 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:40.640 So I am in a season where it's it is easier for me now to do these things in the morning. 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:46.240 For those who have younger kids, it may be more challenging, or it may be having a conversation with your partner. 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.839 What days out of the week can you do the morning routine? 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.799 Or can you help with the morning routine and negotiate? 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:54.319 Negotiate some time. 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:58.079 If you're fine, you're looking for space to do something for you. 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.759 Maybe negotiate with the girlfriend. 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.839 I'll watch your kids one day at 9:30 or after school. 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:08.880 So you can go and get some time for 30 minutes, or and then you can you can swap. 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:13.279 So just be open and curious about how I can make this work for me? 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.119 How can I find the time for me? 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:21.759 What can I say no to in my life to create more space for me for what's important for me? 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:27.920 Because I hear from so many women, they usually the story usually goes like this is I used to. 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:32.960 I used to work out, I used to do this, I used to do that, and then I had kids. 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:34.480 Right? 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:36.559 And and I know what it feels like. 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.200 Our life gets a little chaotic with the kids. 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:54.720 But if you have a desire to do something for yourself, get curious about how you can fit it in your life, but also be open that it doesn't have to look the way in which you think it should look, or the way in which someone tells you it should look. 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:56.960 How can you make it work for you? 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:59.599 And it may be, again, a 10 minute thing. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:01.279 Instead of a 30. 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:05.519 Or it may be doing it with your kids, right? 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:07.519 And taking them along with you. 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:14.880 Um, so there's many different ways to to look at it, but I think sometimes we get, as much as we get caught up in all or nothing, we get caught up in black and white. 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:16.160 It has to look a certain way. 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:17.440 It should be like this. 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.759 Instead of understanding, it could look different. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:27.599 And I think it goes back a little bit, Michelle, to what we talked about a little bit ago that don't beat yourself up. 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:32.640 Listeners, if yesterday I got 30 minutes to walk. 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.400 I

had planned to go to the gym today. 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:38.160 Some things happened, so that's it. 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:38.559 I'm done. 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:39.599 I'm not going again. 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:40.319 Right. 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:40.880 Right. 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:41.440 Right. 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:41.839 Yeah. 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:42.319 Yes. 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.680 I understand that you I've seen it happen when I was coaching. 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:46.400 Yes. 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.640 Um, it didn't work today, so I'm not coming. 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:53.200 I'm canceling my my appointment because something got in my way. 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:53.519 Right. 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:57.279 And that goes back to what you were talking about just now, about desire. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.440 Okay, today didn't work out. 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.880 That black and white, mm, all or nothing, black or white. 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.000 I think it's about, I think the word would be flexibility. 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:11.119 And life doesn't always as you said, you might have been up all night with a crying baby. 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.200 Some of us have got aging parents. 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:16.799 We have to go and visit them or help them with medication. 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:20.400 And oh five o'clock this afternoon was when I was going for a walk. 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:21.680 That was going to be my time. 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.000 Okay, it didn't work today. 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:27.440 Maybe I can do a swap with my partner tomorrow morning. 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:32.400 They can take the children to swimming, whatever. 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:42.079 And uh I or I can swim when it's about having that flexibility and desire to say I'm important in here too. 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:48.960 But just because the world, the the life dropped a clanger today doesn't mean I can't get back on tomorrow. 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:55.359 Is that what you and as yeah, and as you say that, it makes me think of another important lesson I I I teach. 00:23:55.519 --> 00:24:05.119 And I I want the women listening to kind of reflect on your own answer that when you have when you start thinking about things that you want to do for yourself. 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:13.759 And again, I'm always in me because my passion is the health and fitness space, I'm talking about ways in which you eat, about habits you build, the way in which you move your body, the self-care. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.640 Do you do it with the intention of it being forever? 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:23.920 Or do you do it with the intention of it being for 30, 60, 90 days, six months? 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:25.759 And I want you to think about your answer. 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:31.039 So for a lot of people, their intention is I just do it for a little bit of time. 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:35.359 And that's why it's easy to say, I'm throwing in the

towel because I can't keep this up. 00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.880 Like we, this is a lifelong journey. 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.799 We want to build the habits to do forever. 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:49.920 And when you think of forever, the missed workout today is very insignificant, yeah, right? 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:53.200 It's very insignificant on the forever scale. 00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:01.920 It's it could be significant on the 30-day scale, but in the forever, like we are going, think about all of the things you're going to go through in the coming decades. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.079 There's going to be lots of bumps on the road. 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.319 And you're not going to stay off the road. 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:14.079 You're going to get back on, and you're going to like wind off it again sometimes, but you always want to come back on because this is a forever thing. 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.720 We always, I and I'm going to say the word need. 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:25.680 We always need to be continuing to work on building those habits that will really serve our bodies, serve our minds, serve ourselves. 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.119 I love that. 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.880 I love, I think that's a boom light moment for listeners. 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:33.599 It's a forever journey. 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:34.319 Yeah. 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.359 It's a it's an endurance, it's not a sprint. 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:55.119 And building our mental capacity, building our our bone structure so that as you were to go back to what you were talking about early on, Michelle, that you know, in our 70s, we don't break a hip because we've we've built strength. 00:25:55.440 --> 00:26:08.720 And, you know, let us know what you're thinking about this when you you know you hear Michelle's episode that building forever strength, building forever health, that you want to go on that holiday to Canada. 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.680 I want to go on a holiday to Canada when I when I can. 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:13.440 Uh and I want to go on a holiday. 00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:14.640 I want to see the world. 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:15.599 I want to do things. 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.480 I want to be able to still do things in my 80s. 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:19.039 Yes. 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:29.920 And I'm not going to think back to the 16th of December 2025 and go, oh, I threw in the towel because uh I was on a 90 day. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:31.119 And there's nothing wrong with that. 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:36.079 There's nothing wrong with those, those, those ways of, you know, achieving your health. 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:48.000 However, if we can look at a little bit more longevity and look at it forever, as you were saying, Michelle, I think that's that's the way to, you know, really change here as well. 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:48.559 Yes. 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.160 Yeah, it has to be forever. 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:56.000 And I want the women to know that what feels hard today becomes easier when you do it consistently. 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:56.480 Absolutely. 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:04.079 Like it's that's the most beautiful thing to experience yourself when it's like suddenly it just becomes a part of who you are. 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:14.079 And that is how, so if you look at somebody who is doing something, or maybe they're working out consistently or they have great heating eating habits, it didn't happen overnight. 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:19.200 They're probably 10, 20 years in, or it could be even a year in. 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:31.119 But if you start doing little things today, you will build this like a repertoire of all of these things that you do over time that will look drastically different than your day today. 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:39.039 And it's just the consistency of doing it, doing it imperfectly, but doing it without throwing in the towel. 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.160 Like, and the front never, you never throw in the towel. 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:48.559 You can have a day where it's like, I don't need it today, or I'm not going to do it today, but it doesn't mean you're quitting. 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.839 That there's no quitting because there's it's again, it's that there's that the road never ends. 00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.960 It's a life road, and it's a long life road. 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:03.359 And it gets bumpy, and there's U-turns, and there's a stop sign, and it's construction. 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:05.440 Right? 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.519 Lots of problems, lots of things on the road. 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:08.559 We all see it, right? 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.720 And and if so, so it's the kind of the analogy. 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:23.039 I'm not sure if you've heard this, of you know, if you are on the road and you're you get a flat tire, you don't get out of the car and say, Oh, okay, I I'm just gonna slash my other tires because this one's flat. 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.319 No, you fix the tire and you keep moving. 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:27.279 Get on with it. 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:38.559 So if there's something on your journey and you feel like it equates to that slash tire of I couldn't get into that workout, or I ate the bag of chips, like you're not gonna slash the other tires just because you did that. 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.039 You adjust and you keep going. 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:46.960 And as you were saying, you yourself you did small steps for your 6 a.m. 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.839 workouts, you got your shoes out, your runners, uh, your workout gear, your runners. 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.400 Uh, and 515, and it was a non-negotiable, and you built it. 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:56.960 You built it. 00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:58.000 It built it. 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.359 And I didn't think and I I didn't think I would initially. 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.519 I spent years telling myself I couldn't. 00:29:03.680

--> 00:29:09.200 And I think another tip I would love to leave for the women who are listening is to set yourself up to win. 00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:16.880 And what I mean by setting yourself up to win is I want you to listen to any of the information that you receive, even from us. 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.559 And I want you to decide what you are capable of doing. 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:28.000 Because your your next thing that you're going to add into your life may look different than mine or Laura's. 00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.000 It may look different from your girlfriend's. 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:31.200 It has to work for you. 00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.799 I want you to look at the thing and think about, okay, be honest. 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.519 Can I actually do this consistently? 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:44.880 And if you feel like you can't, you're going to go back to that dial and dial it down a little to the place where you can. 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.759 Because again, you gradually build that up. 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.119 And then I always tell my clients, do a couple of weeks of that. 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:58.160 And if you feel like you're not doing the thing consistently, like 80% of the time, I want you to dial it down even more. 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:00.400 And then a dimmer switch. 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:07.279 A dimmer, and then when you feel like you're doing it 80% of the time, it's a great, it's a great habit that you've got going. 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.359 You can then decide to like add more, dial up, or add the next thing. 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:22.480 But I think a missing piece is we feel like it's a failure if we have to back off a little, or if we have to tone it down, or maybe do a little less. 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:23.599 That's winning. 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:29.920 If you were evaluating and acknowledging it's a little much for me, you know, I'm not doing it consistently. 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:35.440 People, that's when the throwing in the towel happens, instead of just modifying, modify. 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:38.559 Or I need to keep up with what my friend's doing at boot camp. 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:38.880 Right. 00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.119 She's got the latest gear, and I don't have that. 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.960 I've got a baggy t-shirt, so I'm not going because she's got the latest gear. 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:45.920 Focus on you. 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:47.279 On you. 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.079 Yeah. 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:48.880 Wow. 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.279 As we wind up today, Michelle, thank you. 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.440 They've just been such uh I love it. 00:30:53.519 --> 00:31:04.880 They've just been such uh functional, healthy, uh new forming habits that uh you've left listeners with and it's um that you've you know shared today. 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:06.160 It's been amazing. 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:24.880 And if there's one uh if there's one phrase or some or a habit that you've while we're talking about habits that you've instilled through all your changes and over your time, as you said, you've been in the health and um fitness industry for decades. 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:31.279 What's one uh thing that is a non-negotiable for you when you're having a fuck it day? 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:32.079 I've had enough? 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.000 What's a what's a snack? 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.920 What's uh what's a habit? 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.279 What's a shut the door, leave me alone? 00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:39.759 Yes. 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.599 What's what's your go-to when I've had enough of the world today? 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:50.079 I I'm a little weird and I do like to move my body that I feel like it's my stress relief. 00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.839 How so I think when you when you were saying that, I'm like, I walk. 00:31:54.400 --> 00:32:00.000 I walk, I get out for a walk with some I podcast on, or I walk in I walk in gratitude. 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.039 I walk and I'm like, thank you for all the blessings in my life. 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.960 And it just changes how I feel. 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:11.920 And it's an opportunity to reflect, it's an opportunity to move, it's an opportunity for me to escape and just get some fresh air. 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:16.000 And that tends to change, that tends to change how I feel in my space. 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:17.519 It's a shift for me. 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:18.880 I I'm a I'm a bit the same. 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:19.680 Thank you for everything. 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:24.240 Thank you for giving me this opportunity to do the XYZ. 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.240 Um, and it's it's enough to shift. 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.079 It's just enough to shift. 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.279 Um Well, thank you, Michelle. 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:38.000 It's been it's been amazing chatting to you, and uh we wish you all the best and we will keep in touch. 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:38.880 Yeah, thank you. 00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.000 Thank you so much for having me. 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.400 Absolutely, absolutely. 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.079 That's a wrap of this episode of Midlife Unplugged. 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:55.920 If today's conversation is something happening new, please subscribe, share it with your midlife crew, and keep the conversation going on Larry Fortnite. 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.519 See you next week for another four real and apologetic app.