บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Episode 8 - Erin (The truth about perimenopause)

am. 00:02:50.460 --> 00:02:56.140 Um, but I have gone on um estrogen and progesterone. 00:02:56.300 --> 00:03:01.819 So I feel like if I am not as far along as I think I am, hopefully these things will help in the long run. 00:03:01.979 --> 00:03:02.219 Yeah. 00:03:02.460 --> 00:03:08.219 Yeah, I mean, at least will help with symptoms and things because like a lot of the stuff that happens is because of a drop in estrogen, right? 00:03:08.300 --> 00:03:11.180 Like it's like the hormones drop, and then you're like, oh, okay. 00:03:11.419 --> 00:03:12.300 Um, so yeah. 00:03:12.379 --> 00:03:21.580 And I don't know if you I mean, I've shared it uh other times, but like my story was like I thought I was perimenopausal to find out I was postmenopausal. 00:03:21.740 --> 00:03:26.539 So I was like, oh, and all of these things that were wrong with me, oh now I understand. 00:03:27.979 --> 00:03:36.300 I had no idea what um, see, I'm having a problem with the that happened, yeah, like the uh brain fog. 00:03:36.379 --> 00:03:37.740 I was like, oh, I don't know what that is. 00:03:37.819 --> 00:03:39.979 Now I'm like, oh my god, that's what it is. 00:03:40.300 --> 00:03:41.500 I just can't remember anything. 00:03:41.659 --> 00:03:43.259 Oh yeah, and I had that happen the other day. 00:03:43.340 --> 00:03:46.699 I was like talking to my husband, I was like, literally mid-sentence, and I was like, Yep, I don't know. 00:03:46.939 --> 00:03:48.780 And he's like, I can't finish sentences. 00:03:48.939 --> 00:03:50.539 I don't, I can't say the word table. 00:03:50.620 --> 00:03:52.460 Like I just, it's it's constant. 00:03:52.620 --> 00:04:04.780 And uh and I think the the other thing that we forget is that there are a lot, you know, when we think about menopause, we think about things like the belly, the belly fat gain, right? 00:04:05.099 --> 00:04:11.740 The um the hot flashes, yeah, the lack of sleep, um, the brain fog, those are the big ones that we hear about. 00:04:11.900 --> 00:04:17.740 But there is a litany of others that we just don't even connect to, you know, what that is. 00:04:17.819 --> 00:04:19.980 And I don't even know what they are, but it's just so interesting. 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:23.019 But there's a lot of things, like even weird things like vertigo. 00:04:23.580 --> 00:04:24.139 Oh, wow. 00:04:24.539 --> 00:04:28.460 Like, so there's like just these little things that all could be like, oh, maybe like here's what I think. 00:04:28.539 --> 00:04:31.500 It's like, oh, if something's happening, could this be related to Manduz? 00:04:31.659 --> 00:04:32.300 Maybe, yeah. 00:04:32.539 --> 00:04:33.419 Yeah, exactly. 00:04:33.500 --> 00:04:34.699 And so then you look it up. 00:04:34.860 --> 00:04:41.899 Yeah, the other one that might be a sensitive topic, but the other one that is is definitely been impacting me is the painful uh sex. 00:04:42.539 --> 00:04:44.860 It's been excruciating. 00:04:44.939 --> 00:04:49.259 And I used to see the commercials for it, you know, they'd be like, Oh, yeah, after whatever. 00:04:49.340 --> 00:04:50.620 And I'm like, whatever, what does that mean? 00:04:50.699 --> 00:04:51.580 And I didn't realize. 00:04:51.659 --> 00:04:58.220 And I remember I was I was talking to my husband about it, and this was probably about a year ago, and I was like, Why is this? 00:04:58.940 --> 00:05:04.379 And he was like, Because, and he like rattled off the answer, and I was like, How do you know that? 00:05:04.539 --> 00:05:06.940 And he's like, I said, Have you been doing research? 00:05:07.019 --> 00:05:10.700 And he's like, Yeah, you told me the other day that you would think that you thought you were going into menopause. 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:14.139 So I went and did research on it because that's what he does, because he's amazing. 00:05:14.940 --> 00:05:25.740 And um and I want to acknowledge like how cool that you could have that conversation openly about like, because I think sometimes there's a lot of shame around, oh, like I this is painful. 00:05:25.899 --> 00:05:31.259 So like people just don't talk about it, and then it creates distance, and then that causes other problems. 00:05:31.419 --> 00:05:40.220 And so, you know, kudos to the two of you for having open conversations and then kudos to him for being like, I'm gonna look this up and see what's going on with my wife. 00:05:40.539 --> 00:05:41.259 I know, right? 00:05:41.419 --> 00:05:50.539 And I wasn't even talking about that when I brought up menopause, and he just he just was doing all the research, and so like, and he's very sensitive to that, right? 00:05:50.700 --> 00:05:58.620 And like I've definitely had, we haven't, you know, the irritability comes up every now and again, but it has not been a huge factor. 00:05:58.940 --> 00:06:08.539 But there have been times where you know, we something might come up, and then we just we sort of get like this, and then we just laugh about it, right? 00:06:08.620 --> 00:06:15.580 So we're able to like to your point the fact that we can talk about it and the fact that he has done the research and knows that this is real stuff, you know. 00:06:15.740 --> 00:06:18.779 So Right, because I think it's easy to be dismissive, right? 00:06:18.860 --> 00:06:26.379 To be like, oh, our experiences aren't real, or like, oh, you're making it up, and especially when it's not something that's like seen, right? 00:06:27.100 --> 00:06:37.419 And so, you know, and I think the one thing that's helped me a lot is uh I get a compounded uh estrogen and testosterone cream. 00:06:38.620 --> 00:06:50.779 And that has helped with like the pain and stuff because it re um because it's topical and it's in you know, it it changes the pH and the all the fun stuff down there. 00:06:51.980 --> 00:06:53.340 It rejuvenates it. 00:06:53.419 --> 00:06:54.059 Is that a good word? 00:06:54.220 --> 00:06:55.019 Probably yes. 00:06:55.100 --> 00:06:58.220 I have it, I have an estrogen, I have an

estrogen. 00:06:59.740 --> 00:07:02.620 I started with just estrogen and it didn't do anything for me. 00:07:02.700 --> 00:07:13.500 And then for the pain piece of it, um, and we when she moved me over to the estrogen and testosterone combination completely, completely did help. 00:07:13.659 --> 00:07:15.659 So thank you for saying that. 00:07:15.740 --> 00:07:17.419 So that if this doesn't work, right? 00:07:18.139 --> 00:07:19.019 Yeah, there's other things. 00:07:19.179 --> 00:07:27.259 I mean, um to go get it, you know, I'd have to go to a compounding pharmacy and you know, all that fun stuff, but you know, it's still you know, it still works. 00:07:27.419 --> 00:07:30.299 So and to me, it's like, well, if it works, then that's good, you know. 00:07:30.539 --> 00:07:30.779 Yeah. 00:07:31.500 --> 00:07:32.940 It it has been interesting. 00:07:33.100 --> 00:07:38.860 I um I am going to a specialist, like I'm paying a lot of money out of pocket. 00:07:39.580 --> 00:07:48.059 Um, and I think what happened was is, you know, when this all first started early on, and people were like, Oh, yeah, you just go on estrogen and whatever. 00:07:48.299 --> 00:07:53.580 And then when it actually became a reality, I was like, Oh, what do you do? 00:07:53.659 --> 00:07:55.659 And you know, you go to your gynecologist, right? 00:07:55.740 --> 00:08:01.500 And you go to your Western and you go to your Western doctors, and they're like, Oh, just here's the estrogen patch. 00:08:01.580 --> 00:08:05.019 And you're like, what like nothing? 00:08:05.179 --> 00:08:11.659 Well, there's no reason to take tests because like your hormones change all the time, so you can't really test, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:08:12.940 --> 00:08:21.980 You go to this specialist who in my case is a naturopath, like endocrinologist, essentially, a functional endocrinologist. 00:08:22.220 --> 00:08:23.899 So they have the medical background. 00:08:24.059 --> 00:08:28.299 And so I was asking her about all this stuff, and she's like, it all comes down to money, like they don't want to. 00:08:28.460 --> 00:08:38.860 And so it has been interesting because I did do a ton of testing, and then she gave me stuff, and then I went back in after, and it was like, Oh, maybe that wasn't enough. 00:08:38.940 --> 00:08:39.820 Maybe we need to do more. 00:08:39.899 --> 00:08:46.059 So, like detailed, detailed, detailed testing, like really, and really thinking about things differently than the Western doctors. 00:08:46.220 --> 00:08:46.379 Yeah. 00:08:46.620 --> 00:08:59.419 That being said, when I go back and like talk to my like um my um MD, my endocrinologist MD, like there's definitely like a differences in opinion in certain things. 00:08:59.580 --> 00:09:01.179 And she's like, Well, did she tell you? 00:09:01.340 --> 00:09:04.299 You know, so it's like I'm I'm weighing the two things. 00:09:04.779 --> 00:09:30.379 That being said, I also feel like although it is a lot of money, I I appreciate going to specialists because there are a lot of other detailed things, but also because of all the testing, they're giving me specific amounts rather than just giving me a patch and saying I was very nervous and scared because I have this thing called like factor five or something that makes like a stroke incidence more high. 00:09:30.539 --> 00:09:33.579 So estrogen also is a problem in that sense. 00:09:33.819 --> 00:09:35.339 Um, so I was very concerned. 00:09:35.419 --> 00:09:39.579 And so she did the research and was like, it's not a problem if you do this much, you know what I mean? 00:09:39.659 --> 00:09:44.459 Like whereas are you doing transdermal or are you doing like a pill? 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:57.740 I'm doing progesterone pills at night, and I'm doing uh estrogen cream on the thigh on at night, and then I'm also doing the the vaginal estradiol at night. 00:09:58.459 --> 00:10:01.819 So and I have like a patch, and so that's what you know. 00:10:01.899 --> 00:10:03.579 So I have just a little patch that I wear. 00:10:03.659 --> 00:10:13.019 And then because I still have my IUD because they're like just keep it in, like even though I don't need it, they're like it has progesterone, so they're like, just keep it until it expires. 00:10:13.419 --> 00:10:15.100 So for me, it was really interesting. 00:10:15.259 --> 00:10:20.779 I had an IUD when this whole thing started, and my specialist said, You need to take it out because I need to understand. 00:10:20.939 --> 00:10:26.139 If I'm if you're gonna work with me and I'm gonna give you, yeah, I need to understand what your baseline is. 00:10:26.299 --> 00:10:30.779 And if you have an IUD and I don't know what your true numbers are, interesting. 00:10:31.019 --> 00:10:34.139 So I actually took it out, which also like wasn't a problem. 00:10:34.379 --> 00:10:34.699 Right. 00:10:34.860 --> 00:10:43.019 Um and uh seriously, mine was so my numbers were so low that there was no question. 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:46.860 So she was sort of like, you're good, you know. 00:10:46.939 --> 00:10:49.019 So she's like, just keep it in, you can keep it in. 00:10:49.100 --> 00:10:53.259 So that's why I don't take a progesterone because I have that coming in. 00:10:53.740 --> 00:11:02.299 Um, but yeah, and it's you know, and I'm still on like I think I'm on like one of the lowest doses, and I think that's still, you know, like it's it's still working from my perspective. 00:11:02.379 --> 00:11:04.860 So I'm like, I'm not getting hot flashes or anything like that. 00:11:05.019 --> 00:11:09.659 So I mean the brain fog is there occasionally, but sometimes I'm like, is this just aging? 00:11:09.819 --> 00:11:11.899 Is this like I don't know? 00:11:12.139 --> 00:11:13.500 Well, and it could be, right? 00:11:13.659 --> 00:11:21.339 And for me, the biggest ones, like I said, were the belly fat, and um the hot flashes started getting more and more. 00:11:21.500 --> 00:11:26.379 And also, um, what's

really interesting is I have an identical twin sister. 00:11:26.539 --> 00:11:31.579 Yeah, and she um, so we've been sort of going through this together, right? 00:11:32.139 --> 00:11:34.379 But what I noticed is different. 00:11:34.620 --> 00:11:43.179 Well, what I noticed was earlier on in the process, um she was having trouble sleeping, like up for two hours a night. 00:11:43.339 --> 00:11:45.019 Like we were both dealing with belly fat. 00:11:45.179 --> 00:11:49.819 She was dealing more with the sleeping and more with like a lot of more problem with hot flashes. 00:11:49.899 --> 00:11:50.860 And I was like, Oh, interesting. 00:11:50.939 --> 00:11:53.500 Like, I definitely have hot flashes, but not to the extent. 00:11:53.740 --> 00:11:57.339 And I was like, Oh, maybe I got like maybe I got around that. 00:11:57.579 --> 00:11:59.659 Well, it turns out she's just much further along. 00:11:59.819 --> 00:12:02.620 She is in menopause and has been probably for a year. 00:12:02.699 --> 00:12:06.379 And clearly the fact that I had just had a period, I am not. 00:12:06.779 --> 00:12:14.220 And the sleeping issues and the and the uh hot flashes have increased incrementally recently. 00:12:14.379 --> 00:12:14.699 Okay. 00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:21.659 That being said, when I went on, when I finally went on the estrogen, because I was already on, I've been on progesterone for a little while longer. 00:12:21.740 --> 00:12:23.339 I've been on progesterone for about eight months. 00:12:23.500 --> 00:12:26.459 I've been on estrogen probably for about two or three. 00:12:26.620 --> 00:12:26.939 Okay. 00:12:27.980 --> 00:12:33.819 Since the estrogen, the sleep, it really helped my sleep, really helped my sleep. 00:12:33.899 --> 00:12:37.740 And I think a baseline thing, like, you know, and I think of like Maslow's hierarchy, right? 00:12:37.819 --> 00:12:41.819 Like if you don't have the sleep, like nothing else in your health is like good, right? 00:12:41.980 --> 00:12:44.939 So and and so there's that, right? 00:12:45.019 --> 00:12:53.179 Like, so if you're sleep, if if the hormones are causing your sleep to be off, or because you know, for me, it was like I was getting night sweats and stuff, like it's like I was hot and cold, I'm hot and cold. 00:12:53.339 --> 00:12:56.779 And so if if the sleep's off, then everything else kind of just gets off, too. 00:12:56.939 --> 00:13:00.379 So yeah, oh my god, I was miserable. 00:13:00.539 --> 00:13:02.139 I had just started a brand new job. 00:13:02.299 --> 00:13:04.379 I was like, oh my god, I'm not sleeping. 00:13:04.699 --> 00:13:08.299 And like I told you, most of my friends are quite a bit younger than me. 00:13:08.459 --> 00:13:09.339 They don't understand it. 00:13:09.740 --> 00:13:12.860 So they're hearing me, but they're like, sorry. 00:13:13.179 --> 00:13:14.860 Yeah, but they don't, you know, they don't know. 00:13:15.100 --> 00:13:18.299 And then someday they're gonna be like, Oh, I remember Aaron telling

me about that. 00:13:18.459 --> 00:13:19.579 They are going to know exactly. 00:13:22.139 --> 00:13:23.019 Exactly. 00:13:23.339 --> 00:13:25.819 So it's definitely helped. 00:13:26.059 --> 00:13:32.860 Um, so we'll see, you know, I'm sticking with this specialist for a while, um, just to kind of check it out. 00:13:33.019 --> 00:13:41.740 I also, another thing I have started to do is um I've started working with a personal trainer for for weight training, yeah. 00:13:41.980 --> 00:13:43.899 Which I've always been resistant to. 00:13:44.059 --> 00:13:53.019 And of course, you know, we all hear you get to a certain age and lifting heavy weights and and yeah, much, much larger amounts of protein is so critical. 00:13:53.179 --> 00:13:59.500 So I'm really understanding that and and trying to include those two things as well. 00:13:59.659 --> 00:14:01.899 So I'm curious on the belly fat for you. 00:14:02.059 --> 00:14:04.220 So for me, like I've always had belly fat. 00:14:04.379 --> 00:14:13.659 So so it I don't, I mean, I I had gained weight during the pandemic anyway, which was which was mostly because I was drinking more wine. 00:14:13.980 --> 00:14:20.299 And so I I had like I was not correlating it to perimenopause or anything. 00:14:20.539 --> 00:14:25.899 It was it was a completely lifestyle factor, not working out, drinking a lot of wine, eating a lot of junk food. 00:14:26.379 --> 00:14:35.100 Now, um, and even since I've lost weight, I still I'm back sort of my baseline of what my my I've always had a little tummy. 00:14:35.179 --> 00:14:37.659 That's just how my body has always been, it will always be. 00:14:37.819 --> 00:14:39.579 I've named it, we're good. 00:14:40.539 --> 00:14:42.539 Were you did you not have that before? 00:14:42.620 --> 00:14:47.019 Like, so I'm just curious for you, like what your experience was because you know, people's bodies are different. 00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:56.059 So, like people's bodies are bigger, you know, like a bigger deal for someone who's you know, maybe had a flat stomach their whole life, and then they're like, What the hell is this? 00:14:56.299 --> 00:14:59.899 Yeah, and I've never like had a perfect stomach, right? 00:14:59.980 --> 00:15:02.220 But like my waist has always been my smallest part. 00:15:02.299 --> 00:15:16.779 I tend to gain weight in my in my butt and my hips, and so and it you could tell it wasn't about the food and eating differently because it's like overnight all of a sudden you have this and and the and it's impossible to lose, right? 00:15:17.019 --> 00:15:26.379 Interestingly enough, again, my my twin sister and I have extremely different bodies and they're becoming more and more different the older we get. 00:15:27.019 --> 00:15:28.459 They didn't used to be different. 00:15:28.620 --> 00:15:34.139 She like I am, I am like curvelacious. 00:15:34.860 --> 00:15:41.500 Um my boobs increased another size, so I'm like F now. 00:15:41.659 --> 00:15:44.220 That's like 4D, which is so hard. 00:15:44.299 --> 00:15:46.059 That's really it's been really hard. 00:15:46.220 --> 00:15:54.059 I'm getting even more curvier, and then, but then in addition to all the other places that I had, I also have this belly that just doesn't go away. 00:15:54.220 --> 00:16:05.899 And that's and the and the reason why I could tell it wasn't just oh, like you were eating differently or drinking differently, is because it literally is just like it shows up and you're like WTF. 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:14.539 My sister, who has always been more slender but sort of gained in the belly, has gained quite a bit in the belly. 00:16:14.860 --> 00:16:21.179 And so, you know, although I think she looks much better in clothes, she definitely feels it. 00:16:21.259 --> 00:16:23.339 You know, it's it's really, really, really hard, right? 00:16:23.419 --> 00:16:25.339 It's really a self-esteem thing. 00:16:25.419 --> 00:16:26.939 Like, you know, that it's like a shift too. 00:16:27.019 --> 00:16:28.779 It's like, oh, what happened to the body I had? 00:16:28.939 --> 00:16:33.579 And like this whole, you know, I mean, both of us have I know you through the coaching community, right? 00:16:33.659 --> 00:16:40.459 So it's like we have this, it's like we know we know the things that we're supposed to think, and like what you would tell somebody else, but what you tell your yourself is a different thing, right? 00:16:40.539 --> 00:16:42.779 Like of, oh, you know, like, well, just love the body you're in. 00:16:42.860 --> 00:16:48.939 It's like, well, it's easy, easier said than done when you've lived in a body that didn't you wasn't like this before, right? 00:16:49.100 --> 00:17:05.420 So um well, I actually and I actually think I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, I actually do think I might have like a little bit of body dysmorphia in the sense that I've never been happy with my body, even though I look back at pictures and I'm like, oh my god, I was so skinny. 00:17:05.740 --> 00:17:24.380 And I think that is a very typical, like I mean, uh female experience, you know, especially like in Western societies where we put so much emphasis on how women look and their bodies and you know, and and the images that were shown in the media of like that aren't mostly, especially now, real, like literally not real now. 00:17:24.620 --> 00:17:26.860 Um that that's such a difference. 00:17:26.940 --> 00:17:28.299 But so I'm sorry I interrupted you. 00:17:28.539 --> 00:17:31.180 No, no, it's just totally, I agree with you, right? 00:17:31.259 --> 00:17:37.579 It's very I say that knowing that it's a very common thing, and I was like, and so this makes it even harder, right? 00:17:37.740 --> 00:17:40.700 And it's like, oh my god, it's just gonna get worse from here. 00:17:40.860 --> 00:17:41.980 Like it's just gonna get worse. 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:46.940 Like, even just seeing myself on the screen here, like it's hard, you know. 00:17:47.180 -->

00:17:52.059 And um and I don't know about you, but I'm I'm guessing because I I know what you do for a living. 00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:56.859 Um, we spend a lot of time on screens, yes, these kinds of things, and you're like, This is how I look okay. 00:17:56.940 --> 00:17:58.220 Well, guess this is what I look like today. 00:17:58.299 --> 00:18:00.539 I was like, I look like I'm tired, you know. 00:18:00.859 --> 00:18:01.660 Exactly. 00:18:01.819 --> 00:18:05.500 And it's like, oh, there's a wrinkle, and there's a wrinkle, and um, oh my god. 00:18:06.059 --> 00:18:11.019 Sometimes I just put my glasses on because I look better with them on because you can't see the fine under my eyes. 00:18:13.500 --> 00:18:24.059 I look tired a lot, so it's just it's been sort of an interesting, it's definitely like I said at the beginning, is like this side of 50 has been really tough for me. 00:18:24.299 --> 00:18:28.779 I talked when I talk to people who feel differently and they're like, oh my God, I love it. 00:18:28.940 --> 00:18:29.819 50s are the best. 00:18:29.980 --> 00:18:31.660 I'm like, who are you? 00:18:31.819 --> 00:18:32.700 Number one. 00:18:33.019 --> 00:18:40.539 Number two, I'm also really working on trying to like be nicer to myself. 00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:43.660 I'm trying to be nicer, be kinder, you know, all of those things. 00:18:43.819 --> 00:18:48.539 I would never think these things about someone else, you know, and and I recognize that. 00:18:48.779 --> 00:18:52.859 And so I'm recognizing it for what it is. 00:18:53.019 --> 00:19:05.099 I'm also recognizing how important it is to like be more positive and like knowing that I do need to get to the place of like, okay, like this is aging, like I'm lucky for another day, you know. 00:19:05.259 --> 00:19:07.579 I'm lucky for age, right? 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:08.700 Yeah. 00:19:08.940 --> 00:19:14.059 And I talk to people who have had, you know, cancer and other diseases, and they're like, oh my God, I'm super happy. 00:19:14.139 --> 00:19:15.019 Like, I'm just happy. 00:19:15.099 --> 00:19:16.700 I never thought I was gonna make it to 50. 00:19:16.779 --> 00:19:17.980 I'm so you know what I mean. 00:19:18.059 --> 00:19:20.700 So it's like different people's experiences, you know. 00:19:20.859 --> 00:19:27.660 And there's a there's a song by um Rob Thomas that I love him in Matchbox 20. 00:19:27.740 --> 00:19:43.500 And my sister called out this song, and it says, um, it says something about um being okay with um aging because the more you age is um a day away from dying young. 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:49.819 So, right, every day that you age, you're a day like even further away from dying young. 00:19:49.899 --> 00:19:54.859 And I was like, that's the way we need, you know, I am I am losing people around me all the time. 00:19:55.019 --> 00:19:55.259 Yeah. 00:19:55.420 --> 00:20:09.420 So I'm like, I'm also recognizing like I should not be in this like frame of mind, just so self-obsessed with my belly fat, because frankly, you know, aside all cares about it but you, right? 00:20:09.660 --> 00:20:10.139 Exactly. 00:20:10.299 --> 00:20:15.740 And I'm and I'm healthy, and I'm, you know, I am literally losing people all the time these days. 00:20:15.980 --> 00:20:29.420 And I'm really trying to get to a place where I'm sort of in acceptance with the menopause journey and recognizing that like there is another side from what I understand, like you can get through it. 00:20:29.740 --> 00:20:32.460 And then you give less F's, right? 00:20:33.899 --> 00:20:40.700 It is easier with the help of hormones if you if you can, you know, hormone replacement therapy, if you can, if you can take it, right? 00:20:41.180 --> 00:20:49.660 Um, and so that's I think like my advice to anyone would just be like stay on top of it and start early. 00:20:49.740 --> 00:20:49.899 Yeah. 00:20:50.059 --> 00:20:50.299 Right. 00:20:50.379 --> 00:20:57.980 When you start having symptoms, like rather than sort of waiting until you're miserable, there are things that you can do to kind of stay ahead of it a little bit. 00:20:58.139 --> 00:20:58.299 Yeah. 00:20:58.460 --> 00:21:01.660 And I think to your point, like talk to your younger friends, right? 00:21:01.740 --> 00:21:02.299 Like let them know. 00:21:02.379 --> 00:21:04.940 It's like, hey, listen, I'm not complaining, I'm just letting you know. 00:21:05.180 --> 00:21:10.139 Because like I kind of feel like it's like, oh, I'm I'm let me be like your older sister who's not telling you these things. 00:21:10.859 --> 00:21:17.339 Well, and I recognize too, like when you're not there, you you don't like as much as I mean, when we were younger, people probably said that to us all the time. 00:21:17.500 --> 00:21:18.859 Oh my God, I appreciate where you're at. 00:21:18.940 --> 00:21:20.779 You're so young and you're like rolling your eyes at them. 00:21:21.339 --> 00:21:23.259 Guarantee you that's what they're doing to me. 00:21:23.420 --> 00:21:26.299 And just to be clear, I I am complaining. 00:21:27.019 --> 00:21:29.740 I am complaining when I'm talking. 00:21:29.980 --> 00:21:33.660 These are like my closest friends, and I'm like, this is what's going on with me. 00:21:33.899 --> 00:21:51.099 So um, but I'm trying to like, I'm definitely, you know, outside of all of that and recognizing where I'm at, I am trying to be in gratitude for the things that I do have, which is a lot of lovely and wonderful things, you know, and including my overall health, you know. 00:21:51.579 --> 00:21:52.220 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:52.379 --> 00:21:55.099 Cause I mean, like you said, it's like, oh, I get to live another day, right? 00:21:55.180 --> 00:22:02.619 Like I do, like I'm part of my like gratitude practice because I have a daily graduate practice, is like, thank you for my health, you know, like thank you for waking up today. 00:22:02.779 --> 00:22:10.859 Like, you know, because those are two things that even if I like because I've had a migraine in the last couple days, it's like, even if I wake up with migraine, I still woke up and and yes, thank you for my health. 00:22:12.220 --> 00:22:14.059 So uh, because it could be worse. 00:22:14.460 --> 00:22:15.899 Yes, always. 00:22:16.379 --> 00:22:17.740 But anyway, so thank you so much. 00:22:17.819 --> 00:22:33.579 I appreciate your honesty and just like, hey, this is how it is, and you know, this is my whole purpose in doing these things is just to like bring that awareness to people and just real stories from real people about what is going on with our bodies and and what what do I wish I knew, right? 00:22:34.059 --> 00:22:34.379 Right. 00:22:34.700 --> 00:22:39.019 I feel like I'm doing this for my younger self, even though that person can't watch it. 00:22:39.259 --> 00:22:46.779 Yeah, but I think it's a great idea because like one of the biggest complaints has been like nobody talks about it, and then now we're finally talking about it. 00:22:46.859 --> 00:22:48.460 So that's a moment for sure. 00:22:48.700 --> 00:22:50.379 You're making it so you're making it okay. 00:22:50.539 --> 00:22:51.339 It's okay to be. 00:22:51.420 --> 00:22:54.619 I'm always asking, like, is it hot in here or is it just me? 00:22:54.859 --> 00:22:55.019 Right. 00:22:55.180 --> 00:22:57.579 Like, you know what it means if it's not hot in here, you know. 00:22:57.819 --> 00:23:04.059 So um, and the fact that you can have those honest conversations more broadly now is really important, and you're normalizing it, right? 00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:04.779 So that's great. 00:23:05.420 --> 00:23:06.059 Thank you for doing this. 00:23:06.700 --> 00:23:07.180 Thank you. 00:23:07.339 --> 00:23:09.660 Um, so thank you for watching, listening. 00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:11.579 Uh, so please feel free to comment. 00:23:11.660 --> 00:23:12.619 Please share this out. 00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:15.660 That's like my biggest thing is like I want more people to be able to see this. 00:23:15.819 --> 00:23:18.539 Um, if you're interested in being a guest, feel free to reach out to me. 00:23:18.619 --> 00:23:20.619 I'm excited to be excited to talk to you. 00:23:20.779 --> 00:23:26.220 Um, definitely uh everybody to me, everybody has a story, so I want to to hear those stories. 00:23:26.379 --> 00:23:30.940 Um, but otherwise, uh have a wonderful rest of your day and we will see you next time.