บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Life After Death, Supernatural Experiences and Real Magic With Psychic Medium Omar Angulo

so much for being here. 37 00:02:10.340 --> 00:02:12.919 I'm looking forward to deep diving with you about your 38 00:02:12.979 --> 00:02:15.080 spiritual awakening and journey. 39 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:16.219 I said journey. 40 00:02:17.139 --> 00:02:18.159 Not sure why, but it. 41 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:18.590 Felt like it. 42 00:02:19.819 --> 00:02:23.889 Maybe it was like, what is that, like Boston? Or 43 00:02:24.189 --> 00:02:25.250 isn't it Boston? 44 00:02:25.849 --> 00:02:27.610 I don't even know what accent it is. It just 45 00:02:27.629 --> 00:02:28.169 came out of me. 46 00:02:28.250 --> 00:02:28.610 Journey. 47 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:30.979 We're going to talk about your spiritual journey. 48 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:35.699 Okay, perfect. Thank you. I love your intro, your voice. 49 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:40.060 I was like, oh, that's right. The voice over such 50 00:02:40.099 --> 00:02:43.810 a professional. I love the voice, so that sounded great. 51 00:02:44.189 --> 00:02:45.909 It made me like, okay, I got to work on 52 00:02:45.930 --> 00:02:46.530 my intro. 53 00:02:48.129 --> 00:02:49.370 Well, thank you. I'm very flattered. 54 00:02:49.830 --> 00:02:50.370 Absolutely. 55 00:02:51.650 --> 00:02:53.569 Omar, I'd love to hear about you. 56 00:02:53.650 --> 00:02:57.199 I want to know, About your background, your spiritual journey, 57 00:02:58.180 --> 00:03:03.240 were you raised religious, spiritual? Did you see and hear 58 00:03:03.379 --> 00:03:05.460 and sense things when you were a child? 59 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:07.759 Let's just start there. 60 00:03:08.500 --> 00:03:11.500 Okay. Well, you know, I went through the kind of, 61 00:03:12.819 --> 00:03:16.550 what is it, normal, like Mexican upbringing, right? Like we 62 00:03:16.590 --> 00:03:20.210 were Catholic. We went to the church on the weekend. 63 00:03:20.270 --> 00:03:23.009 I did my first communion, right? I was baptized Catholic, 64 00:03:23.050 --> 00:03:27.900 all that good stuff. But yeah, nothing out of the ordinary, right? 65 00:03:29.939 --> 00:03:33.710 You know, but I guess every kind of Mexican family 66 00:03:33.750 --> 00:03:39.930 grows up religious in that sense, right? Excuse me. Like, right? 67 00:03:40.150 --> 00:03:43.110 Mom lights candles or this or that or, you know, 68 00:03:43.150 --> 00:03:46.879 all those kind of things. But, you know, I always 69 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.300 say like the first premonition after that I remembered going 70 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:52.460 back was like when I was five years old. You 71 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.750 know what I mean? And that's kind of the the 72 00:03:56.490 --> 00:03:58.330 best I could date it, and then just on my 73 00:03:58.449 --> 00:04:00.550 own journey, I always talked to God like if that 74 00:04:00.590 --> 00:04:03.969 was my BFF, right? I was very, like if something 75 00:04:04.030 --> 00:04:07.189 happened to me, rather than being mad at my parents, 76 00:04:07.250 --> 00:04:09.629

I'd like tell off God. I hate to say it, 77 00:04:09.629 --> 00:04:11.810 but I'd be like, you know, like how could you, 78 00:04:11.849 --> 00:04:14.610 you know, like that, like yelling, like how someone would 79 00:04:14.650 --> 00:04:19.000 probably yell, like, you know, like something, being like a 80 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:24.730 spoiled brat towards like God or something, right? He forgives you. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. 81 00:04:25.189 --> 00:04:29.490 We're golden. But I was just, like, it was funny, like, 82 00:04:29.709 --> 00:04:32.759 in hindsight, thinking, like, that's who I was mad at, right? Like, 83 00:04:33.379 --> 00:04:35.000 you know what I mean? Like, what? Like, I came 84 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:37.139 to Earth to get beat up or this or that or, 85 00:04:37.180 --> 00:04:39.139 you know what I mean? Like, it was funny that 86 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:41.759 that was my reaction. Yeah. 87 00:04:42.180 --> 00:04:42.560 Yeah. 88 00:04:43.139 --> 00:04:47.019 So, yeah, let's just kind of start, or we already 89 00:04:47.060 --> 00:04:50.930 started with your childhood, but your kind of spiritual awakening 90 00:04:50.990 --> 00:04:52.829 as an adult, how did you figure out that you 91 00:04:52.870 --> 00:04:53.370 were a medium? 92 00:04:55.240 --> 00:05:00.839 I mean, that's jumping way forward, but... I think when 93 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:05.810 my songwriting, right? I started writing songs... I think my 94 00:05:05.850 --> 00:05:09.069 sophomore year of high school, right? And I just was... 95 00:05:09.230 --> 00:05:11.410 I would write a lot. And then at some point, 96 00:05:11.449 --> 00:05:14.350 I think I started noticing things I would write and 97 00:05:14.370 --> 00:05:18.350 the songs would come true. And that was a little freaky. Like, what? Like, 98 00:05:19.290 --> 00:05:22.519 that's crazy, you know? Like, so I was like having... yeah, 99 00:05:22.579 --> 00:05:25.339 I guess what you would call it, like, automatic writing, well, 100 00:05:25.379 --> 00:05:28.449 I don't know if that's automatic writing, but premonitions through, 101 00:05:28.610 --> 00:05:32.449 you know, then more dreams, right, premonitions with the dreams, um, 102 00:05:33.790 --> 00:05:36.449 that was my big thing, right, a lot of premonitions 103 00:05:36.490 --> 00:05:40.250 with dreams, sometimes, like, every single day, like, let's say 104 00:05:40.290 --> 00:05:44.529 if I hadn't talked to a friend, like, in a year, like, 105 00:05:44.589 --> 00:05:46.709 I dream about them, and I'd wake up, and I'd have, like, 106 00:05:46.750 --> 00:05:48.519 a missed call from them, or something, right, like, so 107 00:05:48.540 --> 00:05:51.009 a lot of, uh, Or those kind of things, right? 108 00:05:51.050 --> 00:05:52.850 Like the dreams were talking to me a lot and 109 00:05:52.870 --> 00:05:57.939 the songs, right? So songwriting and dreams started opening me up, right? 110 00:05:58.300 --> 00:06:00.600 And that's kind of how it started progressing, right? So 111 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.339 I knew right away. I was like, okay, I'm like, 112 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.939 is this normal? Like I was trying to figure it out. 113 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.379 Like why? And then I started reading the Bible. I 114 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.220 think the first time I read the Bible from beginning 115 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.490 to end was like 18, probably that summer. Like I 116 00:06:14.550 --> 00:06:17.959 grabbed it. right, I bought this big old Bible, right, 117 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:23.019 with bigger letters, right, and then, you know, I had 118 00:06:23.050 --> 00:06:25.970 my coffee, I got a dictionary, because every word I 119 00:06:26.009 --> 00:06:30.750 didn't understand, right, all the crazy old English words, right, 120 00:06:31.589 --> 00:06:34.050 I would write it down and write down the description, right, 121 00:06:34.149 --> 00:06:36.269 get the dictionary, write it down, so it took me 122 00:06:36.310 --> 00:06:38.389 like the whole three months, right, probably the whole summer 123 00:06:38.449 --> 00:06:41.129 to read the Bible the first time from beginning to end, 124 00:06:41.149 --> 00:06:43.930 you know, writing down every word I didn't understand, really 125 00:06:43.949 --> 00:06:46.610 looking at it, and then Um, that's kind of how 126 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.470 it went. I was starting to notice things that were 127 00:06:48.509 --> 00:06:51.149 happening to me were happening to people in the Bible. 128 00:06:52.790 --> 00:06:54.810 And that's kind of what started open, like, oh, wow, 129 00:06:54.829 --> 00:06:57.850 maybe I'm like these people, right? Like, like the way these, 130 00:06:58.009 --> 00:07:01.649 you know, yeah. So that's kind of, that was me 131 00:07:01.689 --> 00:07:04.410 starting to progress. Like, okay. Yeah. So go ahead. 132 00:07:05.209 --> 00:07:07.410 Oh, no, sorry. I don't know why I just yawned. 133 00:07:07.889 --> 00:07:10.930 I was totally invested. Um, but yeah, so you were, uh. 134 00:07:11.009 --> 00:07:13.009 So basically you were walking on water and you were like, 135 00:07:13.069 --> 00:07:13.740 I could do that too. 136 00:07:14.180 --> 00:07:16.740 No, no, no, no, not the walking on water, but like, 137 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:21.959 you know, um, like I was already dreaming, like I 138 00:07:21.980 --> 00:07:25.519 would dream of God and this and that. And, and, um, 139 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.250 you know, when I was trying to go to church 140 00:07:28.310 --> 00:07:32.509 to figure out like, like, okay, I wanted someone to 141 00:07:32.550 --> 00:07:35.029 talk to, like, Hey, I'm having this, I'm, I'm, you know, 142 00:07:35.850 --> 00:07:40.139 this and that, um, Surely they're going to know, right? 143 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.699 Because we read, right? They were reading from the same 144 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:44.500 book and they're going to know that these things that 145 00:07:44.560 -->

00:07:48.370 happened to them in the book is, you know, that's normal, right? 146 00:07:48.410 --> 00:07:52.519 But then, but no, they didn't really believe in it. 147 00:07:52.569 --> 00:07:54.370 That's what the crazy thing was, right? When you go 148 00:07:54.410 --> 00:07:56.290 to church, then you realize like they're reading from, but 149 00:07:56.310 --> 00:07:57.490 they don't really believe in all that. 150 00:07:58.009 --> 00:07:58.310 Right. 151 00:07:58.709 --> 00:08:00.620 They don't believe that magic is real. 152 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:01.720 Yes, exactly. 153 00:08:01.740 --> 00:08:05.360 So that's actually really interesting because to me, I don't 154 00:08:05.579 --> 00:08:08.069 think that there is a difference. I don't think that we, 155 00:08:09.329 --> 00:08:13.329 As a culture, American culture, we tend to separate, for example, well, 156 00:08:13.389 --> 00:08:16.730 religion and spirituality is one, and then science and spirituality 157 00:08:16.769 --> 00:08:20.110 is another. And that doesn't resonate with me because I 158 00:08:20.189 --> 00:08:25.509 feel that science is a product of spirit. Everything's spiritual. So, like, 159 00:08:25.610 --> 00:08:28.560 science is just a manifestation of the spiritual. 160 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.300 But also, it never sits. 161 00:08:31.139 --> 00:08:34.419 Right with me when people say that what we do, 162 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:36.019 what you and I do, is speaking to. 163 00:08:37.570 --> 00:08:42.429 Angels, spirit guides, communicating with the other realms, God, whatever, 164 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:46.200 loved ones on the other side. There's a lot of 165 00:08:46.289 --> 00:08:49.980 fear-based thinking. And it just depends on the person and 166 00:08:50.019 --> 00:08:52.779 how they interpret their religion. But I don't have a 167 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:54.480 problem with religion objectively. 168 00:08:54.659 --> 00:08:55.279 I just. 169 00:08:56.779 --> 00:08:59.759 Don't feel comfortable about the fact that there are people 170 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:02.440 that think like, oh, you're talking to demons. You're not 171 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:04.940 supposed to be talking to the spirit world. Because if 172 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:06.440 we're not supposed to be doing it, why are we 173 00:09:06.500 --> 00:09:08.889 able to do it? And I also don't believe that 174 00:09:08.909 --> 00:09:11.789 we are talking. I don't feel I'm channeling demons. I 175 00:09:11.830 --> 00:09:14.490 don't feel that I don't want to say that that 176 00:09:14.529 --> 00:09:18.940 can't happen. But for me, I don't. I intend for 177 00:09:18.980 --> 00:09:21.600 all the messages to be of the light. And what 178 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.460 you and I do is we help people to heal. 179 00:09:23.820 --> 00:09:25.860 So to me, it just doesn't make sense to me 180 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:29.080 that what we're doing is evil or somehow against God. 181 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:32.450 God, to me, and

I'd love to hear your thoughts 182 00:09:32.509 --> 00:09:34.049 on this. We are God. 183 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:36.850 We are extensions of God. I don't think it's wrong. 184 00:09:38.169 --> 00:09:41.460 to use the abilities that we have to tap into 185 00:09:41.500 --> 00:09:42.360 the quantum field. 186 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:52.389 I get that, right, about being the... It's kind of... 187 00:09:52.350 --> 00:09:54.929 Because even in the Bible, right, it literally says that 188 00:09:54.950 --> 00:09:57.230 you are gods and this and that, all that stuff, right? 189 00:09:57.309 --> 00:10:02.139 But it's like... I know how... I don't know. I 190 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:09.070 guess I won't... Because that's... You know, it just depends. 191 00:10:09.590 --> 00:10:11.470 I'm looking for the right way to say it because, 192 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:15.809 you know... But I don't need that title per se, right? 193 00:10:15.870 --> 00:10:21.320 I don't need that title to say... Like I would 194 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.019 probably rather say that we're divine beings, right? Because we are. 195 00:10:24.259 --> 00:10:27.860 We're divine beings. I don't need to say like, you know, 196 00:10:27.899 --> 00:10:30.679 I'm a God too and this and that. I don't 197 00:10:30.740 --> 00:10:33.240 look at people differently if they say that because I 198 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.480 grew up around, like when I did hip hop, right? 199 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.779 Like I used to use this, even one of my 200 00:10:39.970 --> 00:10:43.350 AKAs was like, because I went by like, oh, the architect, 201 00:10:43.389 --> 00:10:44.909 but sometimes on a lot of songs, I would say, oh, 202 00:10:44.929 --> 00:10:48.070 the architect, AKA the God of war, right? But it 203 00:10:48.110 --> 00:10:50.789 was like, you know, so it's weird in hip hop. 204 00:10:50.830 --> 00:10:53.269 You refer to even our cool day used to be like, 205 00:10:53.330 --> 00:10:56.129 I think it's, it's East coast swag, right. Or, or 206 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.059 slang to be like, yo God, or what up God? 207 00:10:59.100 --> 00:11:02.179 Like that's, you know, so it's a normal thing culturally 208 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.779 to say that. I just don't know how everyone uses it. Right. 209 00:11:06.899 --> 00:11:07.179 Right. 210 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:12.399 So that's why I'm very comfortable with that word. And no, 211 00:11:12.460 --> 00:11:15.080 it doesn't mean like, Oh, I'm God, the creator himself 212 00:11:15.139 --> 00:11:19.230 or this and that. But yeah. Um, himself, herself, however 213 00:11:19.250 --> 00:11:23.789 you want to see it. But I know divine being, yes, 100%, right? 214 00:11:23.929 --> 00:11:28.259 I know that, right? That we are divine beings. You know, 215 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:32.259 we're exactly like that saying, maybe not everybody, right? I 216 00:11:32.299 --> 00:11:35.480 know this world is really interesting now. I feel like 217 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.659 there's a lot of different kind of beings on this planet, right? 218 00:11:38.820 --> 00:11:39.659 Yeah. 219 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:42.899 From what I've seen and been shown, so I can't 220 00:11:42.940 --> 00:11:46.230 say that everyone's a divine being here, you know? And 221 00:11:46.250 --> 00:11:51.350 I could say that with all... All comfort, like all surety, 222 00:11:51.450 --> 00:11:53.330 I guess, right? Like I could say that, that not 223 00:11:53.450 --> 00:11:56.149 everyone here is a divine being on this planet or 224 00:11:56.190 --> 00:11:58.529 in this realm, right? I could say that and not 225 00:11:58.570 --> 00:11:59.860 feel like an a-hole doing it. 226 00:12:00.409 --> 00:12:01.190 Right, yeah. 227 00:12:01.850 --> 00:12:05.450 So, yeah. But I forgot what else I was going 228 00:12:05.470 --> 00:12:06.649 to say. No, yeah. 229 00:12:06.710 --> 00:12:09.370 I was just curious about your, yeah, kind of how 230 00:12:09.409 --> 00:12:14.289 your experience with religion unfolded. Did you grow up with 231 00:12:14.330 --> 00:12:17.990 that thinking of talking to dead people is not appropriate 232 00:12:18.070 --> 00:12:20.309 or God wouldn't like it? Or did you have any 233 00:12:20.350 --> 00:12:23.330 sort of pushback from people or from just even your 234 00:12:23.409 --> 00:12:25.950 own ideas of religion? Like, am I allowed to be 235 00:12:25.980 --> 00:12:28.220 doing this? Is this something that's of God? Is this 236 00:12:28.259 --> 00:12:32.220 something that is of divine? Or is it because I 237 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.240 know there are people that there can be a lot 238 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.159 of fear around psychic mediumship? 239 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:38.679 Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, one of my first things, 240 00:12:39.980 --> 00:12:42.519 Wasn't even accepted by the religions. Like to me, I 241 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:46.559 thought I communicated directly with God. Right. And even according 242 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:51.539 to the religion or pastors or priests, we don't talk 243 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:53.299 to God. But I did. So I was like, I 244 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:58.470 never got to know Jesus. Like I never, you know, 245 00:12:58.490 --> 00:13:01.149 when people are like, oh, you know, I would talk 246 00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:03.990 directly to God. Right. And I got that from reading 247 00:13:04.029 --> 00:13:07.090 the Bible because Jesus in according to the Bible, it 248 00:13:07.129 --> 00:13:09.509 says that Jesus was like, oh, don't pray. When you pray, 249 00:13:09.549 --> 00:13:12.330 pray art father who art in heaven. Okay. So even 250 00:13:12.409 --> 00:13:15.429 Jesus instructions were prayed art father who art in heaven. 251 00:13:15.460 --> 00:13:19.299 So I directly, okay, you're telling me talk directly to, 252 00:13:19.860 --> 00:13:23.200 you know, the man upstairs. So that's who I was directly. 253 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:27.039 And yeah. And then, you know, who I

thought was God, right. 254 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.490 Was visiting me and we, you know, I got taken 255 00:13:30.549 --> 00:13:33.090 and shown heaven and all this stuff and all these 256 00:13:33.570 --> 00:13:40.549 different things that I was shown since I was young. So, yeah, 257 00:13:40.690 --> 00:13:43.409 I believe that. I was talking to God. I didn't 258 00:13:43.450 --> 00:13:47.590 tell people because even that wasn't accepted. See, so I 259 00:13:47.610 --> 00:13:51.529 learned right away that me and the church, we're not 260 00:13:51.909 --> 00:13:56.019 going to see eye to eye anyways, right? So I 261 00:13:56.059 --> 00:14:00.320 wasn't there yet, the medium thing, right? But obviously, yeah, 262 00:14:00.580 --> 00:14:04.620 I wouldn't care what the religions have to say even now, 263 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.740 you know, because back then I had to be bold 264 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.210 enough to be like, Even though everyone was saying, no, 265 00:14:09.289 --> 00:14:11.240 people don't talk to God. You can't talk to God. 266 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.379 I knew I was. So what do you want me 267 00:14:15.419 --> 00:14:16.840 to say, you know? Right. 268 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:20.320 Yeah. And when did you start practicing psychic mediumship? 269 00:14:20.379 --> 00:14:23.179 How did you know that it was, how did that, 270 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.000 how did that, yeah, I guess just sort of how 271 00:14:25.019 --> 00:14:27.539 did that, how did you go from being a regular 272 00:14:27.590 --> 00:14:31.129 guy to a psychic medium for work too? 273 00:14:32.009 --> 00:14:34.389 Well, that was just, that was just recent, right? The 274 00:14:34.590 --> 00:14:38.370 psychic mediumship, started when I was doing the podcast, right? 275 00:14:38.409 --> 00:14:42.490 I had already been for years either having dreams or 276 00:14:42.529 --> 00:14:46.379 hearing things and telling people stuff like, hey, this, and 277 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.840 they'll be like, what? Or I have a dream, and 278 00:14:50.259 --> 00:14:52.299 I'll tell people, hey, I had a dream about you, 279 00:14:52.340 --> 00:14:55.250 and they'll be like, what the hell? Like, yeah, like, oh, wow, 280 00:14:55.799 --> 00:15:00.629 that's accurate. I was doing the podcast, and I interviewed 281 00:15:00.669 --> 00:15:03.850 this guy, I don't know if you've ever interviewed him, 282 00:15:03.870 --> 00:15:06.090 but his name is Patrice. I forget his last name. 283 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:06.769 Is he from France? 284 00:15:07.029 --> 00:15:07.950 Yeah, yeah, France. 285 00:15:08.149 --> 00:15:11.190 And he's the... Yes, because I actually had a session 286 00:15:11.230 --> 00:15:11.909 with him, too. 287 00:15:12.269 --> 00:15:13.330 Okay, yeah. 288 00:15:13.700 --> 00:15:15.919 After the show, he gave me a session. It was 289 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:16.919 a healing session, right? 290 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:19.320 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, he didn't do a

291 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.059 healing session for me. It was just like. 292 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:22.159 But he was a healer. 293 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:28.580 Yeah, intuitive healer. Yes. So I interviewed Patrice, and... He 294 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.340 asked me some questions. And after, right, I interviewed him. 295 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.940 He asked me some questions. And we were just chatting 296 00:15:34.100 --> 00:15:36.399 after because we didn't get to talk before. I think 297 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.500 we went right into the interview after I was chatting 298 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:44.740 with him. And, you know, he was like, oh, so 299 00:15:44.779 --> 00:15:47.100 how did I... Oh, well, mostly it comes through dreams. 300 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:53.919 I never have really asked anything. You know, well... Okay, 301 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.240 so anyways, that's kind of how, see, that's how much 302 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.399 of a hold religion has on you. That I was 303 00:15:59.019 --> 00:16:02.559 influenced by it because even that, I said, well, I've 304 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.409 never asked for it. So how is it demons? How 305 00:16:05.450 --> 00:16:07.149 is it this? I didn't ask you for nothing. This 306 00:16:07.190 --> 00:16:10.289 is what's being given to me. So this is 100% 307 00:16:10.289 --> 00:16:13.629 me being shown visions, me having premonitions, me, I haven't 308 00:16:13.730 --> 00:16:16.460 asked once for nothing. I haven't done any kind of ritual. 309 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.659 I haven't nothing. So at that point, even as I'm 310 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.360 interviewing Patrice a few years ago, right, whenever I did 311 00:16:22.379 --> 00:16:26.679 the podcast, And he's like, oh, you want to, you know, 312 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.299 I was like, yeah, it always comes to me naturally, boom. 313 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.139 Or at that point, I was already having visions even 314 00:16:32.210 --> 00:16:34.350 while I was awake, right? I'd have visions, boom, boom, boom. 315 00:16:35.409 --> 00:16:38.029 So anyways, he's like, oh, you want to try something? 316 00:16:38.090 --> 00:16:40.690 And I'm like, sure. And he's like, what do you see? 317 00:16:41.970 --> 00:16:43.570 And then I told him, you know, I was like, okay, 318 00:16:43.629 --> 00:16:47.259 I see this, this, that. And then after I finished, 319 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:49.080 he lifts up a piece of paper and everything I 320 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.940 said was like on the piece of paper. So I'm like. 321 00:16:51.590 --> 00:16:54.009 I'm like, you're playing with me, right? And he's like, no, 322 00:16:54.090 --> 00:16:55.870 he's all, no, no, you're the real deal. And I 323 00:16:55.909 --> 00:16:57.860 was like, what? I was like, no, I didn't want 324 00:16:57.879 --> 00:16:59.820 to believe, you know, but I was like, okay, well, 325 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.879 this guy's in France and I just was able to 326 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:07.599 see on command what's on the paper that he, whatever 327 00:17:07.660 --> 00:17:11.160 he drew on this paper, right? And I was like, man, 328 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:13.839 this is crazy. So then I realized, oh, I could 329 00:17:13.859 --> 00:17:15.700 do this on command. So that was the beginning of 330 00:17:15.740 --> 00:17:18.250 me knowing that I could do it on command, right? 331 00:17:18.269 --> 00:17:20.109 And then he started inviting me. He used to be 332 00:17:20.150 --> 00:17:23.789 a part of this, the spiritual community. And on there, 333 00:17:23.829 --> 00:17:26.680 there will be sessions. And he just started calling on me, right? 334 00:17:26.700 --> 00:17:29.759 Like people were more, I think, tuning in for him 335 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.460 and some other like person that were on there. And 336 00:17:32.500 --> 00:17:34.680 he would ask me like, hey, Omar, do you see anything? 337 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.039 And I was like, this, this, this, this. And then 338 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.549 I started seeing like, oh, wow, it was accurate. And 339 00:17:39.569 --> 00:17:41.509 then like, you know, there was a bunch of people. 340 00:17:41.549 --> 00:17:44.230 So Yeah, that's kind of how I got, right? He 341 00:17:44.380 --> 00:17:46.740 invited me to those. So I always, yeah, Patrice. So 342 00:17:46.779 --> 00:17:49.259 thank you, Patrice, if you end up watching this by 343 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:49.839 some miracle. 344 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:54.480 He's a lovely guy. Yeah, that's so interesting. I think 345 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.039 I teach mediumship and. 346 00:18:00.500 --> 00:18:03.079 What I teach people is, look, everyone can learn to 347 00:18:03.140 --> 00:18:06.000 do it. It's just some people will be more, have 348 00:18:06.099 --> 00:18:09.529 more of a propensity towards it because we were born 349 00:18:09.990 --> 00:18:10.650 more sensitive. 350 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:12.009 In some ways. 351 00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:14.700 It's just the way our brain structure is to some 352 00:18:14.740 --> 00:18:20.680 degree and belief. I think in more indigenous cultures, it's 353 00:18:20.740 --> 00:18:24.319 accepted that that spirit is real. I just got spirit 354 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:28.519 in my ear right now, which everything sucks out and 355 00:18:28.539 --> 00:18:31.940 then I hear ringing in my ear. So, for example, 356 00:18:32.420 --> 00:18:37.750 Native Americans have just know that that's, it exists. So 357 00:18:37.890 --> 00:18:41.619 it's not like they're these like gifted. 358 00:18:42.259 --> 00:18:45.039 Specifically gifted people. It's just that they've always known that 359 00:18:45.059 --> 00:18:45.460 it's real. 360 00:18:45.500 --> 00:18:47.920 They're very connected with nature and they were more so 361 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:51.900 before they were colonized, but they just have this awareness. 362 00:18:52.369 --> 00:18:55.529 One of my close friends is a

medium and she 363 00:18:56.029 --> 00:18:58.150 grew up on a reservation and she's like, everyone was 364 00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:00.869 just like, oh yeah, there's grandma. It was not at 365 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:05.049 all discouraged. So she's just always seen spirit. And possibly 366 00:19:05.109 --> 00:19:08.109 I can't speak for, you know, you're Mexican, you said. 367 00:19:08.700 --> 00:19:11.319 No, but we're, we're native. We are native. Yeah. Yeah. 368 00:19:11.339 --> 00:19:13.019 Like I want to say it's the same thing. 369 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.220 And in fact, it is the same thing. 370 00:19:15.259 --> 00:19:16.559 It is because I was going to say. 371 00:19:16.460 --> 00:19:19.460 You're, you're native to the, you're the first people here 372 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:24.650 to the point where I live in a 1927 house 373 00:19:24.710 --> 00:19:29.670 that is definitely filled with spirits. And our rat guy 374 00:19:29.730 --> 00:19:32.690 came by and he was in the, in, in this 375 00:19:32.809 --> 00:19:34.910 cave that is my closet. And he's like, there are 376 00:19:34.930 --> 00:19:36.650 spirits in here. And I said, how do you know that? 377 00:19:36.769 --> 00:19:38.349 And he's like, I feel them. 378 00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:39.009 I see them. 379 00:19:39.309 --> 00:19:41.190 And he was Mexican. I mean, I don't know if 380 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:45.380 he's from Mexico, but I believe he is. And he's like, oh, 381 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:47.509 because I can see them and feel them. And then 382 00:19:47.549 --> 00:19:50.410 this kid comes to glaze my tub, also a Mexican kid. 383 00:19:50.829 --> 00:19:53.130 He's sitting in the tub and he goes, there's spirits 384 00:19:53.190 --> 00:19:54.539 in here. And I was like, how did you know that? 385 00:19:54.650 --> 00:19:56.339 And he's like, I can feel them watching me. And 386 00:19:56.380 --> 00:19:58.940 I was like, it's just, it's cultural. It's like, we 387 00:19:58.960 --> 00:19:59.440 know that. 388 00:19:59.299 --> 00:20:00.279 Spirits are here, you know? 389 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.519 But I think American culture generally, whatever that is at 390 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.359 this point, since we're now a melting pot, but how 391 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.230 I grew up kind of, I... joke about growing up 392 00:20:10.269 --> 00:20:13.670 kind of waspy, like white. And I'm not Protestant, but 393 00:20:13.710 --> 00:20:15.750 just growing up in sort of like a white environment, 394 00:20:16.210 --> 00:20:20.950 we're always told like logic. That's just hogwash. That's not true. 395 00:20:21.430 --> 00:20:26.009 That's all fantasy. It's just wishful thinking. And so we're 396 00:20:26.029 --> 00:20:30.150 kind of indoctrinated out of that often. Some people in this, 397 00:20:30.210 --> 00:20:32.089 you know, a lot of us in this culture are. 398 00:20:33.220 --> 00:20:35.940 Well, you know what? Now, for example, like my dad, right? 399 00:20:36.089 --> 00:20:39.250 Biggest skeptic ever. And so even that, right? So that's 400 00:20:39.789 --> 00:20:43.289 in high school. There was a little ghost spirit that 401 00:20:43.430 --> 00:20:46.930 we used to see and only me and my dad saw. So, yeah. 402 00:20:46.990 --> 00:20:50.789 So there was a little girl that was running around. 403 00:20:52.390 --> 00:20:54.250 And so see, even since then, I guess I was 404 00:20:54.289 --> 00:20:56.869 already seeing things. That's why I forget so many parts, right, 405 00:20:56.910 --> 00:20:59.269 of the story. So, you know, I was already having 406 00:20:59.329 --> 00:21:02.430 like premonitions and. Even in high school, I already saw 407 00:21:02.509 --> 00:21:05.279 a spirit, right? Like, the little girl that would run around. 408 00:21:05.650 --> 00:21:07.759 My dad saw her, too. But the funny thing is, like, 409 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:12.339 even seeing a spirit, he was still like, I don't 410 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.920 believe in all that. So it's crazy. Like, I don't 411 00:21:14.980 --> 00:21:20.259 even understand the psychology behind that, right? To see. And 412 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.369 even that, he would tell me, don't tell anybody. Because, 413 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.490 you know, like, for example, only me and him would 414 00:21:25.529 --> 00:21:31.619 see her. And one day, but this was already, like, after, right? Um, 415 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.240 this man was building a patio and he saw her 416 00:21:34.299 --> 00:21:35.940 and he was always a little girl. Like she was 417 00:21:35.980 --> 00:21:39.880 just waving to him. So he saw her too. Right. And, uh, he, 418 00:21:40.059 --> 00:21:41.480 he was like, don't tell him. Cause then he's not 419 00:21:41.500 --> 00:21:43.880 going to want to finish the patio. You know what 420 00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:45.920 I mean? So it was like, you know. 421 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.369 Did she look like transparent or did she look like 422 00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:49.150 a real person? 423 00:21:49.769 --> 00:21:52.690 To me, she looked like a real person. Yeah. 424 00:21:52.849 --> 00:21:54.049 That's what I hear people say. 425 00:21:54.349 --> 00:21:54.470 Yeah. 426 00:21:54.490 --> 00:21:54.650 Yeah. 427 00:21:54.690 --> 00:21:59.450 So she didn't look transparent. Um, you know, like for example, once, 428 00:22:00.009 --> 00:22:03.930 She came into my dad's dream, and she was telling 429 00:22:03.950 --> 00:22:06.539 him in Spanish. She was, like, pointing like that, like, hey, 430 00:22:07.539 --> 00:22:10.079 te va a ser tarde. You're going to be late. 431 00:22:10.099 --> 00:22:11.900 You're going to be late. And he woke up, and 432 00:22:11.940 --> 00:22:13.380 he saw the clock, and he's, oh, wow, and he 433 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.450 rushed to work. So he made it. She woke him up. 434 00:22:15.980 --> 00:22:19.519 Then two weeks later, my mom was putting up these curtains, 435 00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:22.319 and the same pattern on the curtains

was the same 436 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:25.309 as the dress the little girl was wearing in the dream. 437 00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:27.630 So he was like, what? And then he told me, yeah, 438 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:29.769 and he told me, and he's like, don't tell your mom, honey. 439 00:22:30.369 --> 00:22:31.430 That's so funny. Yeah. 440 00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:32.990 That's so funny. 441 00:22:33.289 --> 00:22:33.950 Yeah, but. 442 00:22:34.369 --> 00:22:35.750 Yeah. 443 00:22:36.410 --> 00:22:41.230 But it was like, like, it was just weird that he, 444 00:22:41.650 --> 00:22:44.779 even with all these experiences, he, he still, you know, 445 00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:46.599 he's like me. I think one of the things too, 446 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:49.000 sometimes that I give credit to, when I was 16, right, 447 00:22:49.019 --> 00:22:52.059 my third day of high school, I forgot what year, 448 00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:54.720 but I was 16 and I had a huge cramps 449 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:56.279 and I have like a whole scar that was like 450 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.210 the whole, right. I was hospitalized and everything. So I 451 00:22:59.230 --> 00:23:03.789 always thought like, that's crazy like maybe that opened my 452 00:23:03.849 --> 00:23:05.470 third eye i don't know like i like to think 453 00:23:05.490 --> 00:23:09.259 like maybe that made me super sensitive or something but 454 00:23:09.299 --> 00:23:11.099 the same he has a scar that goes like through 455 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.720 the whole side of his face because it was his 456 00:23:13.819 --> 00:23:16.319 last day of school and he was writing he didn't 457 00:23:16.339 --> 00:23:18.519 want to go to school that day see so he 458 00:23:18.539 --> 00:23:21.049 already had that he didn't want to go and then 459 00:23:21.089 --> 00:23:23.630 his mom was like i just go So he goes 460 00:23:23.690 --> 00:23:25.900 on his bike. And somehow. I don't know what he 461 00:23:25.940 --> 00:23:29.059 tripped on. But he flew into this spike. Like poked 462 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.339 through his face. And he was just bleeding out. They 463 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:33.619 thought he was dead. So I don't know. Maybe he 464 00:23:33.660 --> 00:23:35.440 thought he had like an ND. When he was like 465 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.880 a little kid or something. But. They just saw him. 466 00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:41.740 Like even whatever. Cops came there like. Oh he's already dead. 467 00:23:41.779 --> 00:23:44.740 But until a neighbor passed that knew. And then he 468 00:23:44.779 --> 00:23:46.880 grabbed him. And carried him to the hospital. You know. 469 00:23:46.900 --> 00:23:49.480 And then. And then. You know. They stitched. They sewed him. 470 00:23:49.579 --> 00:23:53.759 At first they had sewed him up all ghetto. And then. They, 471 00:23:54.470 --> 00:23:57.839 what do you call it? Yeah, I think his parents 472 00:23:57.940 --> 00:24:01.799 knew like the doctor. No, no, they knew the doctor 473 00:24:01.819 --> 00:24:03.680 and then they came and opened them up and he 474 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.240 did it all nice and neat, right? Or something like that. 475 00:24:06.299 --> 00:24:08.180 Like, yeah, because I actually have a scar on my 476 00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:10.559 face too, which goes from here to here. Oh, I 477 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:12.720 had a large birthmark on my face, which is like 478 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:15.579 this big when I was a kid. And I actually 479 00:24:15.619 --> 00:24:19.059 just recently read that sometimes a birthmark can mean it's 480 00:24:19.099 --> 00:24:23.839 the mark of a shaman or a past life. Injury, 481 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:25.759 which who knows if that's true, but I was like, 482 00:24:25.819 --> 00:24:27.700 if it did, maybe I got shot in the face 483 00:24:27.740 --> 00:24:28.259 or something. 484 00:24:29.339 --> 00:24:30.839 However, when you said. 485 00:24:30.740 --> 00:24:34.180 That about the near-death experience, like, did he have maybe 486 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:38.380 a childhood NDE? I asked my rat guy that, Jesse. 487 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.099 I said, hey, Jesse, because he's like, I see spirit everywhere. 488 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:42.480 They talk to me all the time. I go, did 489 00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:44.920 you have a near-death experience as a baby? 490 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.529 He goes, how did you know that? And I said, 491 00:24:48.609 --> 00:24:50.369 because I have a podcast. 492 00:24:49.849 --> 00:24:54.390 And I interview near-death experiencers and almost all of them. Well, 493 00:24:54.430 --> 00:24:56.250 not all of them, but like a lot of them. 494 00:24:56.970 --> 00:24:59.289 What's your experience of that? Like from, cause you've interviewed 495 00:24:59.309 --> 00:25:01.210 a lot of the same people I have, if not, 496 00:25:02.009 --> 00:25:04.109 probably we've interviewed like all the same people. 497 00:25:05.029 --> 00:25:08.369 That one, like once they have it, then they become open. Yeah. 498 00:25:08.450 --> 00:25:11.589 Not that it's necessarily a prerequisite, but almost everyone I 499 00:25:11.809 --> 00:25:14.490 ask is like, yeah, I did. Or like they had 500 00:25:14.509 --> 00:25:17.859 a pre, like maybe their umbilical cord was wrapped around 501 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.220 their neck and they didn't get oxygen for a minute. 502 00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:23.869 I have a, really psychic friend who's also a skeptic 503 00:25:24.609 --> 00:25:27.529 until she saw what I do. She was always a skeptic, 504 00:25:27.549 --> 00:25:31.170 but she's probably even more naturally gifted than I am. 505 00:25:31.210 --> 00:25:33.579 But she just would be like, I don't know. I 506 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.200 knew that, but I don't know how I knew that. 507 00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:41.180 And her dog, she found out her or I think 508 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.819 she knew her umbilical cord had been wrapped around her neck. 509 00:25:44.160 -->

00:25:47.680 So she didn't get oxygen for the first few moments 510 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:51.230 of life. And it's possible that she might've had a 511 00:25:51.250 --> 00:25:53.990 little mini NDE or something. And then that way they 512 00:25:54.029 --> 00:25:57.099 remember where they came from because everyone I know who 513 00:25:57.210 --> 00:25:59.099 tells me, oh, I pop out. 514 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.400 Of my body. I'm like, did you have a childhood NDE? 515 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.180 They're like, yeah. So it's kind of interesting. 516 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:07.900 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what I noticed through the, doing 517 00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:12.480 the interviews, either traumas, right? People have their awakening through 518 00:26:12.549 --> 00:26:16.690 traumas or yeah, the NDEs or traumas or things like that. 519 00:26:16.869 --> 00:26:22.210 And yeah, yeah. It's, it's the, recurring theme right but 520 00:26:22.230 --> 00:26:24.609 like you said some of us do already come in 521 00:26:24.670 --> 00:26:28.730 like that but then I guess society makes us push 522 00:26:28.789 --> 00:26:31.190 it down push it down push it down and then 523 00:26:31.349 --> 00:26:35.460 we have to be triggered to um because yeah that's 524 00:26:35.500 --> 00:26:38.019 kind of what was happening to me I kept being 525 00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:40.900 triggered with things and then that's when I started looking 526 00:26:41.859 --> 00:26:43.119 you know I don't know no I don't think I 527 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.859 shared it right but okay um I don't know I'm 528 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.769 supposed to share it because all of a sudden you're 529 00:26:47.829 --> 00:26:51.250 totally Yeah, so go ahead. If you want to ask 530 00:26:51.329 --> 00:26:53.630 anything else, go ahead. 531 00:26:53.650 --> 00:26:55.869 Well, I think you should share what you were going 532 00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:59.779 to share. It might just be... Okay. Well, I was 533 00:26:59.819 --> 00:27:02.910 going to ask you, but you use your discernment and. 534 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.279 No, no, I'll share it after, but go ahead and 535 00:27:05.339 --> 00:27:05.569 ask me. 536 00:27:05.579 --> 00:27:07.940 Yeah, because I just wanted to know what was it 537 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.420 that piqued. 538 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:13.470 Your curiosity enough to start a podcast about NDEs and 539 00:27:13.549 --> 00:27:13.930 the like? 540 00:27:14.769 --> 00:27:17.670 Oh, well, that, it was like right after my... my 541 00:27:17.730 --> 00:27:21.039 brother passed it was like there was no veil right 542 00:27:21.130 --> 00:27:25.759 i think that nothing was gonna stop me from connecting 543 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.599 with him right after that after that point like everything 544 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:32.859 was open like i was like i'm full everything right 545 00:27:32.900 --> 00:27:39.369 seeing other dimensions realities star people everything everything i was 546 00:27:39.410 --> 00:27:41.950 yeah i was seeing multiple realities at the same time 547 00:27:42.049 --> 00:27:45.670 right like um i was so open after he passed 548 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:48.980 I was posting things, right? So then I hadn't really 549 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:53.380 seen anyone for me. But it's funny, once you start 550 00:27:53.420 --> 00:27:56.769 posting it, then the algorithm, even back then, right? Because, 551 00:27:56.900 --> 00:27:59.670 you know, he passed in 2019 and I was just 552 00:27:59.710 --> 00:28:02.750 experiencing so many things. I think even before him, because 553 00:28:02.789 --> 00:28:05.289 like you said, right, about the native thing. So even 554 00:28:05.349 --> 00:28:09.009 prior to that in college, one of my professors was native, right? 555 00:28:10.170 --> 00:28:13.170 And she started inviting me to ceremonies on the ranch. 556 00:28:13.369 --> 00:28:16.089 And then so I went, I started going to like, Well, actually, 557 00:28:16.109 --> 00:28:17.799 it was a friend of mine, right? He invited me 558 00:28:17.819 --> 00:28:22.059 to my first ceremony, and I was the only one 559 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.940 that wasn't from the tribe, right? So I was like, 560 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.500 you know, and so they invited me, and I was like, wow, 561 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.359 like I was meant to be there, right? And then 562 00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:32.640 after that, then I started going to the ceremonies at 563 00:28:32.660 --> 00:28:36.250 the ranch with the professor and everybody else. And then, yeah, 564 00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:39.750 I started... Opening up more because I saw, oh, wow, 565 00:28:39.769 --> 00:28:41.130 I could talk about it. No one's going to look 566 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.319 at me like I'm crazy. Even when I would talk 567 00:28:43.339 --> 00:28:46.119 to the elders, even if they hadn't experienced what I experienced, 568 00:28:46.619 --> 00:28:48.960 they're like, wow, I could go take you to talk 569 00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:51.740 to somebody else. Or it was never like shut down. Right. 570 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.950 Like if you try to ask somebody at a church 571 00:28:54.029 --> 00:28:58.490 or anyone else. Right. So my gift started opening more 572 00:28:58.569 --> 00:29:01.829 at that point. Right. So throughout like that. And then 573 00:29:02.890 --> 00:29:04.630 then I don't know how many years after that, probably 574 00:29:04.650 --> 00:29:08.539 like seven, maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. I want 575 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.500 to say at least seven years. I was already going 576 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:13.869 to ceremonies that my brother passed. So I was probably 577 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.309 already posting things, but I will post things and delete them. Right. 578 00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:20.250 I'll be like, I'll post them. And then I was like, 579 00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:22.710 no one would say nothing. So I'd be like, man, 580 00:29:22.730 -->

00:29:25.299 people probably think I'm crazy. I'll delete it. And then 581 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.319 I will get DMs and then people will be like, oh, 582 00:29:27.339 --> 00:29:29.420 my God, that happened to me or all this. I 583 00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:32.079 know what you're talking about. And I'm like, well, geez, 584 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.420 but no one will like. you know, talk, like put 585 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.109 comments so everybody could see. So everyone was messaging me 586 00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:42.079 in private. So then finally. it was very spirit-led. Like, 587 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.069 they gave me the name of the podcast. They, like, everything, right? 588 00:29:45.710 --> 00:29:49.690 And what do you call it? So then I started 589 00:29:49.730 --> 00:29:53.099 the podcast. And I was like, okay, now I'll People 590 00:29:53.130 --> 00:29:55.119 have to talk about it. And so if I'm going 591 00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:57.640 to look crazy, they're going to look crazy with you, right? 592 00:29:57.940 --> 00:29:59.839 No more of this because I will post them on 593 00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:02.680 IG and then delete it, right? And then even though 594 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.079 people would DM me but no one would ever make 595 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.440 comments so everyone could see that I'm not the only 596 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.980 crazy one, you know? And then once I made the podcast, 597 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.940 then other podcasts started jumping out on me or this 598 00:30:15.029 --> 00:30:18.970 or that. It's funny how after, right, once you put 599 00:30:19.009 --> 00:30:21.480 it out there, then... Oh, wow. It's like when you 600 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.039 buy a car, then all of a sudden you notice 601 00:30:23.059 --> 00:30:26.539 that same car everywhere. Right. Before that, you never saw it. 602 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:28.980 And now all of a sudden it's everywhere. Right. There's 603 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.460 stuff like that. So that's how I started the podcast. 604 00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:37.039 It was very spirit led to show right to create community. 605 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.119 And that's what I was told. Right. It would like 606 00:30:39.140 --> 00:30:44.369 to create that community for people to to feel that way. 607 00:30:44.410 --> 00:30:46.269 For example, let me tell you a quick story. Like, 608 00:30:46.609 --> 00:30:48.309 you know, you do acting as well. You know, so 609 00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:51.089 I was working on a show. You know, I do. 610 00:30:51.210 --> 00:30:53.549 I'll do background too and all that stuff because, you know, 611 00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:56.509 when you're union, it pays decent and all that stuff. 612 00:30:56.529 --> 00:30:58.470 I used to do that a lot. 613 00:30:58.569 --> 00:31:02.190 I was Alyssa Milano's stand-in for a season of one 614 00:31:02.210 --> 00:31:03.130 of her shows, which was. 615 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.920 A different show.

Which one? 616 00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:05.900 Mistresses. 617 00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:07.299 Oh, I never heard of it. 618 00:31:07.380 --> 00:31:09.660 Yeah, it wasn't. I'm sorry to the people. 619 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.759 They were very nice people, but the show wasn't great. 620 00:31:12.220 --> 00:31:13.059 She was very nice, though. 621 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:13.740 She was lovely, though. 622 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:16.779 I could see it, though. Okay. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, 623 00:31:16.819 --> 00:31:18.400 I like her from Who's the Boss and everything. 624 00:31:18.420 --> 00:31:20.460 I can only say good things about the cast and crew. 625 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.279 Yeah, yeah. 626 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:23.400 It was a nice set to be on. 627 00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:26.180 Absolutely. Well, you know, I worked on this movie that 628 00:31:26.220 --> 00:31:29.950 I tried to support before, but it was horrible writing. 629 00:31:30.430 --> 00:31:36.170 So my apology. Amazing people. Amazing people. But the writing just. So, 630 00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:39.490 I mean, hopefully. Yeah, I think, you know, people. It 631 00:31:39.509 --> 00:31:42.630 didn't do good. So I think people. Yeah. You know. Yeah. 632 00:31:43.390 --> 00:31:46.269 They know, like, hey, it didn't do good because, you know, 633 00:31:46.630 --> 00:31:50.049 maybe it was a dream of yours, but, and it's okay, right? Like, 634 00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:52.450 it's fine. I'm sure I've written songs that people are like, 635 00:31:52.470 --> 00:31:53.970 what is that? Like, horrible, you know? But hey, I 636 00:31:53.970 --> 00:31:54.849 need it again. 637 00:31:54.869 --> 00:31:56.549 I feel like I'm forgetting it on the air. I mean, 638 00:31:56.569 --> 00:31:58.690 you know? Yeah. More power to them. 639 00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:04.029 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, what do you call it? Yeah, 640 00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:07.190 I was working on this thing, and they just needed 641 00:32:07.230 --> 00:32:09.250 my truck, right? I had borrowed my dad's truck, and 642 00:32:09.289 --> 00:32:11.859 they were like, oh, just, it was like a diner scene, 643 00:32:11.930 --> 00:32:14.069 and the truck was outside. And they're like, oh, just 644 00:32:14.089 --> 00:32:16.849 don't get lost. I'm like, okay. So they just wanted 645 00:32:16.890 --> 00:32:20.349 the truck. And then everyone's in the scene. Everyone. So 646 00:32:20.369 --> 00:32:22.390 I go to holding to see if there's anyone I 647 00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:25.039 could talk to. I don't have nobody to talk to 648 00:32:25.259 --> 00:32:27.279 for the next eight hours. So what am I going 649 00:32:27.299 --> 00:32:30.299 to do? And then I go to holding. No one's there. 650 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.039 But there's a security guard. And she's sitting down right 651 00:32:33.059 --> 00:32:36.660 there with her headphones. And I start walking away. And 652 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:41.750 they're like, talk to her. And I'm like, no.

Like, why? 653 00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:44.779 You know? They're like, just talk to her. I don't 654 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.099 know if they, cause sometimes they'd be like, if you 655 00:32:46.140 --> 00:32:48.880 don't talk, you're going to regret it or something like, oh, 656 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:50.819 fuck it. Like, and I got what they meant. It 657 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.640 wasn't like, oh, you're going to, you know, but it's 658 00:32:52.700 --> 00:32:57.289 more like, like, you know, there's something meant here. So 659 00:32:57.529 --> 00:33:00.329 just do it. And I'm like, fine. You know, I'm 660 00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:02.230 always like, that's how I would start first. Right. When 661 00:33:02.250 --> 00:33:05.170 I would hear these things and then I'd be like, ah, fine. 662 00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:08.450 You know, like always like reluctant, but I do it. Right. 663 00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:12.190 Cause I would somehow always listen. And, um, So I 664 00:33:12.230 --> 00:33:14.650 go back. I'm like, oh, they have you here by yourself? 665 00:33:15.150 --> 00:33:17.200 And she's like, yeah. You know, she takes off her headphones. 666 00:33:17.220 --> 00:33:19.680 She just had her headphones. She's like, yeah, I like 667 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.440 it like that. It's fine. Okay, cool. And I don't 668 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.400 know how we get into this long word. Next thing 669 00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:26.839 you know, we talk for like six hours straight or something. 670 00:33:27.460 --> 00:33:30.640 And she opens up that she's very tapped in and 671 00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:34.619 how even. The partner she's with doesn't believe in it. 672 00:33:34.650 --> 00:33:38.390 She breaks down crying. And I'm like, wow. Like, she 673 00:33:38.410 --> 00:33:40.269 didn't have nobody to talk to. And she even tells 674 00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:42.509 me a story how once, I think they were doing 675 00:33:42.549 --> 00:33:46.720 laundry at the laundromat. And the voice tells her, go now. 676 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.500 And her grandma was in the hospital, like, on her deathbed, basically. 677 00:33:50.779 --> 00:33:53.680 And they're like, go now. And she tells her partner, like, Hey, 678 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:55.259 we got to go now. And he's like, ah, you 679 00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:58.299 and your stuff and blah, blah. And she's like, they 680 00:33:58.339 --> 00:34:01.049 keep telling her, go now. So she's like, no, let's go. 681 00:34:01.349 --> 00:34:03.430 And they get there and boom. They get there just 682 00:34:03.950 --> 00:34:07.089 in time to say goodbye. And then boom, the grandma passes. 683 00:34:07.589 --> 00:34:09.909 And so, yeah, we're like, wow. So see, that was the, 684 00:34:09.989 --> 00:34:12.949 and she had been, I think, in that relationship already 685 00:34:12.969 --> 00:34:15.199 for like eight years with someone that, but that's who 686 00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:17.659 she was, right? She was that tapped in. You know, 687 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.219 it's almost like a slow death, right? You can't. When 688 00:34:20.260 --> 00:34:23.099 you're really tapped in, it's really hard to not be yourself. 689 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.239 It's yourself. It's you. It's who you are. They didn't 690 00:34:26.300 --> 00:34:30.369 give you all that for no reason. It's a part 691 00:34:30.409 --> 00:34:33.610 of who you are. It's like someone that's a dancer. 692 00:34:33.630 --> 00:34:35.769 You wouldn't tell them not to dance. It's like a 693 00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:39.489 slow death. It's like something suffocating you. You could tell 694 00:34:39.530 --> 00:34:42.719 she was being suffocated to where she even broke down crying. 695 00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:44.639 I was probably the first person she had really been 696 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.170 able to open up about. Right. So that's kind of 697 00:34:48.269 --> 00:34:50.260 what even led to the podcast. I knew all these 698 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.420 people were out there. Right. You know, like Shannon, who 699 00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:54.800 we both know. Yeah. 700 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:56.019 Shannon rock. 701 00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:58.820 Yeah. Who I interviewed. And then you interviewed, I don't 702 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.500 know who interviewed her first. Right. But Shannon, I had 703 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.000 known Shannon for three years and she, we met through, 704 00:35:05.139 --> 00:35:10.070 through Jimmy, right. Through her husband. And, um, he was like, 705 00:35:10.110 --> 00:35:11.869 you know, he, we worked on a commercial and he 706 00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:13.289 was like, Oh, my wife does, you know, I told 707 00:35:13.329 --> 00:35:16.000 him I did music and, And he's, oh, I had 708 00:35:16.019 --> 00:35:18.539 a CD, I think, by chance in my backpack or something. 709 00:35:18.619 --> 00:35:21.679 And he's like, oh, do you mind? My wife, whatever, 710 00:35:21.699 --> 00:35:23.530 I'll give it to her, I think. And I'm like, yeah. 711 00:35:23.949 --> 00:35:26.530 And she really liked it. And he's like, hey, I 712 00:35:26.570 --> 00:35:29.010 think he messaged me. Like, my wife wants to, you know, 713 00:35:29.050 --> 00:35:31.690 talk to you. And okay, cool. And she signed me 714 00:35:31.730 --> 00:35:34.489 to this one thing that I guess they will get 715 00:35:34.530 --> 00:35:37.170 your music on movies, TV, all that stuff. They signed 716 00:35:37.210 --> 00:35:39.869 my whole album to that. But then she left the 717 00:35:39.909 --> 00:35:42.369 company after. She was like, ah. And then. It was 718 00:35:42.429 --> 00:35:44.349 signed already for three years and the guy didn't do 719 00:35:44.389 --> 00:35:47.929 nothing with it. But then after she had some other opportunities, 720 00:35:47.989 --> 00:35:50.360 I go to her apartment. And imagine I had known 721 00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:54.260 her for three years already. Never nothing. I didn't even. 722 00:35:54.300 -->

00:35:57.460 I think she hadn't came out as the medium yet 723 00:35:57.500 --> 00:36:02.719 or nothing. Right. And then. Something I'm like, I look 724 00:36:02.739 --> 00:36:05.210 at her and I'm like, hey, you're not into spiritual stuff, 725 00:36:05.329 --> 00:36:07.190 are you? And she's oh, my God. Oh, my God. 726 00:36:08.489 --> 00:36:11.139 She's always since you got here. I've been wanting to 727 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.960 tell you stuff. And I'm like, whoa. Because back then 728 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.239 it was always me that would tell people. Like, hey, 729 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.599 you're not. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dream star. Or I would 730 00:36:21.619 --> 00:36:23.530 always be the one. Like, you're not into spiritual stuff, 731 00:36:23.610 --> 00:36:23.840 are you? 732 00:36:23.889 --> 00:36:24.139 And then. 733 00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:27.429 So she's like, yeah, since you got here. Do you 734 00:36:27.489 --> 00:36:29.130 know someone that passed away? And I was like, wow, 735 00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:31.190 that sounds like my uncle. He just passed away yesterday. 736 00:36:31.510 --> 00:36:34.780 And she's like, oh. And she described them perfectly well. So, 737 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.659 after that, yeah, she opens up about that, and she's like, 738 00:36:37.699 --> 00:36:39.820 I'm not crazy, right? I'm like, no, no, if you're crazy, 739 00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:42.239 I'm crazy, you know? So, and I don't know if 740 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.860 that helped her, right? Like, the same, right? Like, she after, 741 00:36:47.139 --> 00:36:50.039 then she helped me, like, big time, right? Like, you know, 742 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.840 she's like an angel in the human flesh, right? Like, 743 00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:57.199 in a human body, right? Like, she helped me a lot, but... Yeah, 744 00:36:57.260 --> 00:36:59.559 it was like, when I went there, I was the 745 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.420 one that, I had known her for three years, imagine, 746 00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:02.559 and not knowing someone. 747 00:37:02.579 --> 00:37:03.800 But she was a psychic medium. 748 00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:04.599 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 749 00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:05.920 She's a great psychic medium. 750 00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:08.559 Yeah, yeah. And her not knowing that I was, like, 751 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.579 tapped in in any way or nothing. It was like, yeah, 752 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.480 someone had to break the ice, you know, but now 753 00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:17.460 it's more open. It seems like from that point till, like, 754 00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:20.219 now it's all over the internet on Instagram and this 755 00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:22.860 and that and, you know what I mean? All that stuff. 756 00:37:22.900 --> 00:37:26.030 So it's cool to see it have evolved just over the, 757 00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.760 last seven years even, you know? Yeah. 758 00:37:28.780 --> 00:37:31.119 I was going to ask when you started your podcast.

759 00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:34.579 Well, it was probably a few years after that. Uh, 760 00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:36.119 I want to say it's been at least four years. 761 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:40.449 I think I posted like, Oh, four year anniversary anniversary. Um, 762 00:37:40.789 --> 00:37:42.289 but yeah, it was because of that. 763 00:37:42.329 --> 00:37:42.489 Right. 764 00:37:42.510 --> 00:37:47.969 Like slowly. Um, yeah, I was finding like the, like 765 00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:49.750 people that I knew, right. It was like, I wouldn't 766 00:37:49.809 --> 00:37:53.739 force anyone. Cause I knew it's really hard. Right. To come. 767 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:58.519 Like most people have, uh, like the religious background or 768 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.110 this and that. And, you know, I even lost friends 769 00:38:01.409 --> 00:38:04.710 over that kind of stuff. Even just the native stuff. 770 00:38:04.730 --> 00:38:11.710 Like me, when I started going to native ceremonies, just friends, right? That, yeah, 771 00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:13.869 they had, you know, it was like the religion thing. 772 00:38:13.889 --> 00:38:15.730 Oh, because they were religious and they felt like it 773 00:38:15.750 --> 00:38:19.519 was maybe bringing in entities or something. 774 00:38:19.579 --> 00:38:23.239 Yeah, no, to them, it's all like, oh, that's devil worship. Yeah, 775 00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:25.380 but it's funny because they're from the same, right? Like 776 00:38:25.539 --> 00:38:29.849 one friend, Like a Mexican friend and this Salvadorian girl 777 00:38:29.929 --> 00:38:33.469 I knew. And it's like, dude, hello. Like the Salvadorians 778 00:38:33.510 --> 00:38:36.429 were like in the middle of the Mayan civilization. It's like, dude, 779 00:38:36.449 --> 00:38:40.690 it's deep in your DNA. But just that, right? We're 780 00:38:40.769 --> 00:38:43.389 so indoctrinated with the religions and this and that. We 781 00:38:43.429 --> 00:38:46.010 forget where we came from, you know? And that's just... 782 00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:48.829 You know, it's really... I get it. Because it is 783 00:38:49.030 --> 00:38:58.570 easier to just... it's easier to be around to suppress 784 00:38:58.610 --> 00:39:03.480 all that. Right. It's just easier, you know, it's, it's well, yeah. 785 00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:06.400 It's the whole matrix taking the red pill kind of 786 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.679 thing because once you, you can't unsee it once you 787 00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:11.050 see it. 788 00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.280 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 789 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.599 Which I don't know for me has been the coolest 790 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.719 thing that's ever happened in my life. Like it's opened 791 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.760 up my world in the most beautiful ways. And Oh, 792 00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:24.519 I got chills when I said that too. Um, So 793 00:39:24.539 --> 00:39:28.449 I'd love to hear from you. I'm getting major chills 794 00:39:28.489 --> 00:39:32.019 right now, too. Um, that, Ooh, God, more chills. Uh, 795 00:39:32.340 --> 00:39:34.519 first of all, the ways that it's opened up for 796 00:39:34.539 --> 00:39:36.679 you too, but if you don't, whatever you can, would 797 00:39:36.699 --> 00:39:40.309 like to share about what types of things, if you 798 00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:42.889 can give examples of after your brother passed, what was 799 00:39:42.949 --> 00:39:43.650 happening for you? 800 00:39:43.670 --> 00:39:47.349 Well, this is kind of how it, how it happened, right? Um, 801 00:39:48.539 --> 00:39:50.579 I'm starting to, like, sometimes I feel bad saying this 802 00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.780 story because I never, I don't know if my friend 803 00:39:52.820 --> 00:39:55.099 ever saw this story, right? But I shared it on 804 00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.260 another podcast already as well, right? But it was like, 805 00:39:58.590 --> 00:40:03.090 when he passed away, like, I had gotten on Facebook 806 00:40:03.150 --> 00:40:04.409 a lot of his, you know, because he was in 807 00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:07.949 the military 20 plus years. And his friends were trying 808 00:40:07.969 --> 00:40:10.429 to reach out, like, and I don't know, I never 809 00:40:10.469 --> 00:40:12.369 got on Facebook, but I went on Facebook. They were 810 00:40:12.449 --> 00:40:14.590 messaging me even, I don't know how they found me. 811 00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:17.929 Probably right through it says, like, right, Facebook shows everything. 812 00:40:18.730 --> 00:40:21.030 So they were like, hey, what happened? I just found out. 813 00:40:21.070 --> 00:40:26.010 And boom, boom, boom. And I was like, yeah, you know, 814 00:40:26.139 --> 00:40:28.139 I told them what happened. And then all of a sudden, 815 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.699 a friend of mine jumped out at me. And they 816 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.579 were like, message your friend. And I'm like, no. And 817 00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.280 they're like, message your friend. I'm like, no. They're like, 818 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:39.239 if you don't message your friend, you're going to regret it. 819 00:40:39.260 --> 00:40:42.280 And I'm like, oh. But I was like, no, because... 820 00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:45.030 You know, he didn't even say my condolences, nothing. But, 821 00:40:45.050 --> 00:40:50.110 you know, that's us thinking everybody sees everything on the news. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 822 00:40:50.130 --> 00:40:52.590 Like on IG. Oh, no. What? You didn't see my post? 823 00:40:52.630 --> 00:40:56.659 You know, it's really funny now. Like I remember that's 824 00:40:56.699 --> 00:40:59.420 how it was when it started. Right. All the like, 825 00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:02.440 you know, people feel like everyone sees your poll. Everyone, 826 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.800 you know. So anyways, sure enough, I message him. Hey, 827 00:41:07.820 --> 00:41:10.050 how's it going? And later on, years later, I went 828 00:41:10.090 --> 00:41:11.690 back and I

looked at the message. And yeah, there's 829 00:41:11.769 --> 00:41:14.690 no indicator of nothing. But I went to him. I 830 00:41:14.730 --> 00:41:16.000 was like, hey, okay, I'm going to go visit you. 831 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.579 Because he lived a few miles away. So I was like, okay, 832 00:41:18.619 --> 00:41:21.639 I could go to him. And when I get there, 833 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.500 he looks at me and he's all, I think God 834 00:41:24.539 --> 00:41:26.599 or an angel sent you to me. And I was like, 835 00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.800 and I knew, right? Because I think he was about 836 00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:34.030 to go down the same road that my brother did, right? 837 00:41:35.530 --> 00:41:37.829 And I was grateful, right? Because, you know, I love 838 00:41:37.869 --> 00:41:42.369 my friend, everything. But I instantly, like, kind of look away. 839 00:41:42.389 --> 00:41:44.699 And I look up at the sky, like, wow. You see, like, 840 00:41:46.059 --> 00:41:49.440 there's no mistake, right? You do send me to help people. 841 00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:51.579 You do this. You do that. And I listen, right? 842 00:41:51.619 --> 00:41:54.400 I'm like, yes. But you didn't send me to save 843 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.420 my own brother. Like, are you kidding me? So I 844 00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:59.070 was like, okay. So I went to a dark place. 845 00:41:59.219 --> 00:42:03.670 And I was like, okay. It might kind of. F 846 00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:06.949 you or my, you know, screw you was, I'm like, okay, 847 00:42:06.969 --> 00:42:09.530 I'm going to take my own life, right? Like that's, that's, 848 00:42:09.670 --> 00:42:12.329 I'll show them, right? Like I'll show God, I'll show 849 00:42:12.389 --> 00:42:15.210 the angels, whoever, right? I was like, and then that 850 00:42:15.269 --> 00:42:17.949 night I was visited by who at first I thought 851 00:42:17.989 --> 00:42:19.989 was an angel, right? It was this woman that looked 852 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:25.360 very in charge, right? She had like, you know, almost 853 00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:27.219 like a uniform, right? She looked like a colonel or 854 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.619 a major in the military, right? Very, and everything was telepathic. 855 00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:33.550 She takes me to where my brother was, and she 856 00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:35.610 just kind of nods, like, go ahead, go talk to him. 857 00:42:35.670 --> 00:42:39.690 I talk to my brother, everything. And, oh, shoot, okay, 858 00:42:39.730 --> 00:42:43.260 I got a little emotional. Okay, so anyways, then after that, 859 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.119 they showed me, right? They showed me, like, how a 860 00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.559 lot of NDE people talk about the pre-birth. So they 861 00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.139 showed me how me and him had already agreed to it, blah, blah, blah. 862 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.199 So I was just like, after that, how can I? 863 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.510 And then they showed

me proof, right? And that's kind 864 00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:00.389 of where my book starts. Your book is about, yeah. Yeah. 865 00:43:00.570 --> 00:43:02.949 For the next four years. And it hasn't stopped, right? 866 00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:04.989 So it's been more like for the last, you know, 867 00:43:05.010 --> 00:43:08.409 he passed in 2019. So for the last seven years, 868 00:43:08.449 --> 00:43:12.300 I've never stopped getting all the proof, like, right? Endless 869 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.570 proof of everything that they showed me, right? How it 870 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.559 was all pre-planned. But not even just that, my whole life, right? 871 00:43:17.579 --> 00:43:22.300 Like it went back, everything, right? Everything, right? Like the 872 00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:26.050 whole pre-planned everything, right? You know, I'm sure tomorrow I'll 873 00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:27.789 get a sign of, oh, this was pre-planned. You know, 874 00:43:27.809 --> 00:43:31.789 like that's how much it is for me. You know, 875 00:43:31.909 --> 00:43:33.590 and I can't speak for anyone else, but at least 876 00:43:33.610 --> 00:43:38.360 for me, right? I'm shown daily, really. And so after that, 877 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:42.400 then they came back as star people, right? And when 878 00:43:42.420 --> 00:43:44.360 they came back and they were like her, right? I 879 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.539 would call her like my star wife, right? Because I 880 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.969 didn't know who she was at first, right? But after that, 881 00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:54.260 She appeared to me again, but I was in this 882 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.070 other kind of dimension, but still here on Earth. But 883 00:43:57.110 --> 00:43:59.530 it was just like a different vibration, I guess, right? 884 00:44:00.929 --> 00:44:03.309 And she was like nine foot tall. And there were 885 00:44:03.329 --> 00:44:06.409 like the other people that were nine foot tall. And, 886 00:44:07.070 --> 00:44:10.130 you know, my heart exploded. It was like I've never 887 00:44:10.269 --> 00:44:13.090 felt love like that. Like it was like, you know, 888 00:44:13.110 --> 00:44:14.409 and it was like they were showing me that I 889 00:44:14.449 --> 00:44:17.460 was one of them, right? That's my star family. That's 890 00:44:17.500 --> 00:44:19.699 who I come from. And after that, it even took 891 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.820 like over... two months to shake off I wanted to 892 00:44:23.860 --> 00:44:25.380 go with them I was like okay why am I 893 00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:27.480 still here like take me like I don't know what 894 00:44:27.500 --> 00:44:30.300 this I've never found this love even the way you 895 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.300 feel for your family it was like a love that 896 00:44:32.340 --> 00:44:35.619 you just can't even you know I don't know how 897 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.610 to explain you know my oh David when we're watching 898 00:44:37.630 --> 00:44:40.349 David how he

talks about that orgasm time when he 899 00:44:40.369 --> 00:44:42.190 was in his ND that's kind of how it was 900 00:44:42.230 --> 00:44:45.960 like this endless orgasm of the heart. Like, it's just, 901 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.900 you can't like never stopping. Right. Yeah. Your heart, you know, 902 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.280 I just felt like glowing, like ET, right? Like, like 903 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:55.900 I want to go with my star family. 904 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:56.139 Right. 905 00:44:56.179 --> 00:44:58.699 And then it was like, Nope, like it's not time yet. 906 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:01.500 And I was like, and then they were visiting me yearly. Right. 907 00:45:01.579 --> 00:45:05.519 They started visiting me yearly and all this stuff. And 908 00:45:05.659 --> 00:45:09.199 from that point on and, and, um, Then, you know, 909 00:45:09.219 --> 00:45:11.679 I realized they're really always here, right? But I wanted 910 00:45:11.699 --> 00:45:14.500 to see them, like, you know, so, you know, they 911 00:45:14.539 --> 00:45:17.239 would make their appearances. And so, yeah, after that, everything 912 00:45:17.260 --> 00:45:20.480 just opened, right? I got very aware. So now I can't, 913 00:45:21.659 --> 00:45:23.510 like I said, they would always give me proof to 914 00:45:23.570 --> 00:45:26.190 show in this reality. So I can't say there's no 915 00:45:26.269 --> 00:45:32.889 star people. I can't say, excuse me, I can't say, like, yeah, 916 00:45:32.909 --> 00:45:35.369 just everything, right? Everything that I was seeing, right? All 917 00:45:35.389 --> 00:45:38.349 the different realities. Even that, right? I saw a lot 918 00:45:38.429 --> 00:45:42.590 of different realities simultaneously. So I get it. I get 919 00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:45.480 that there's all these realities going on at once, you know? 920 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.900 So like, for example, if there's any dream you have, 921 00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:53.059 chances are you are doing it in another reality anyways, 922 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.840 you know what I mean? So, you know, if you 923 00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:58.300 really wanted to be a ballerina, but it just didn't 924 00:45:58.340 --> 00:46:01.460 work out because you tore your ACL or whatever, like 925 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.170 in another reality, you I could almost guarantee you 100% 926 00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:09.110 that you are a freaking ballerina, a football player, the star. 927 00:46:09.130 --> 00:46:11.269 You know what I mean? I started seeing those realities 928 00:46:11.329 --> 00:46:14.869 during that time because I was so open. Like I 929 00:46:14.889 --> 00:46:17.269 started seeing my brother in other realities where he still 930 00:46:17.309 --> 00:46:22.960 was alive, right? Like multiple ones, different scenarios, everything. You 931 00:46:22.980 --> 00:46:25.420 know what I mean? So while I was awake, I 932 00:46:25.460 --> 00:46:29.840 saw realities. You know, I've shared this before, like, Because 933 00:46:29.929 --> 00:46:31.369 a lot of things would always happen to me in 934 00:46:31.389 --> 00:46:34.170 the shower, right? Because of water, right? We come to 935 00:46:34.190 --> 00:46:37.650 this earth through water, right? Through the womb, encased in water. 936 00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:40.969 It's a portal. Water is literally a portal. So I 937 00:46:40.989 --> 00:46:43.030 would be in the shower and I just start, and 938 00:46:43.050 --> 00:46:46.920 that's where I'd get like a whole download. So one 939 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.039 day it was like that. It was like 50 TVs 940 00:46:49.059 --> 00:46:50.579 went off in my head and I was just seeing 941 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:54.599 all these realities at once. And I dropped to my 942 00:46:54.659 --> 00:46:56.260 face and I was like, take it away, take it away. 943 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.980 It was too much. I was like, oh, wow. Okay, 944 00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.659 now I'm going to end up in the nuts. Nothing 945 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.469 else has put me in the nut house. But this 946 00:47:01.969 --> 00:47:03.900 is going to send me straight to the nut house. 947 00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:06.260 I was just like on my face. And it lasted 948 00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:08.900 over a minute. And I was just seeing all these realities. 949 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.519 It was like. You know it's weird. Because in these 950 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.199 human bodies. We can't comprehend how that's possible. We have 951 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.599 these two eyes. And we see this one thing. So 952 00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:21.199 how can you see 50 realities. Inside your head at 953 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.300 the same time. It's just weird that. It's all possible. Right. 954 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:27.869 Like how is that even possible. Right. Like. It's crazy. 955 00:47:27.889 --> 00:47:28.610 Was it your life? 956 00:47:28.869 --> 00:47:31.710 Like, your life or were you just seeing generally, like, all. 957 00:47:31.630 --> 00:47:33.789 These different dimensions? No, I think it was just different realities. 958 00:47:33.889 --> 00:47:35.349 It was different realities, you know? 959 00:47:36.190 --> 00:47:36.429 It was. 960 00:47:38.469 --> 00:47:42.400 You know, I've had so many interesting experiences that, for example, 961 00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:45.659 once I was doing the acting and there was a 962 00:47:45.699 --> 00:47:48.280 guy I had worked with before, but I didn't really 963 00:47:48.300 --> 00:47:49.739 know him. It was just like, hey, what's up? 964 00:47:49.980 --> 00:47:50.199 You know? 965 00:47:50.219 --> 00:47:53.159 Like, you know, I would play a lot of, like, 966 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.900 the criminal stuff, right? Because the bald head, right? Typecast 967 00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.690 it like crazy. I embraced it because I realized, oh, wow, 968 00:47:58.750 --> 00:48:01.760 I'm working. I'm living off of this because I'm the 969

00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.039 cartel guy. I'm the, you know, I had the long beards. 970 00:48:05.099 --> 00:48:07.000 I was the breaking bad guys. 971 00:48:07.139 --> 00:48:11.679 Yeah, the Taliban. I was Iraqi. I was Syrian. I was, 972 00:48:11.739 --> 00:48:13.849 you know, you name it, all the Middle Eastern things. 973 00:48:13.869 --> 00:48:15.750 You know, they put turbans on my head, give me 974 00:48:15.789 --> 00:48:19.429 an AK, you know, everything, right? I was doing it also. 975 00:48:20.230 --> 00:48:22.349 There was a guy, you know, sometimes similar people, right, 976 00:48:22.369 --> 00:48:26.659 whether we're on, you know, I'll work, you know, yeah, anything, right? 977 00:48:26.699 --> 00:48:30.059 Any thug life type stuff, gangbangers or bikers or this 978 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:33.559 or that, you know, all that stuff. The same people. 979 00:48:33.579 --> 00:48:35.719 So I had seen this guy from something like that. 980 00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:39.039 And I don't know what made me open up, right? 981 00:48:39.179 --> 00:48:41.699 I'm standing next to him. I'm like, man, I had 982 00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.820 the craziest dream yesterday. And I was like, I started 983 00:48:44.940 --> 00:48:48.320 saying all this stuff. And then I was like, yeah, 984 00:48:48.340 --> 00:48:51.079 and it was really weird. You know, Alan DeGeneres was 985 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.449 there and this and that. And then he looks at 986 00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:56.030 me when I finish and he's all, dude, you just 987 00:48:56.130 --> 00:48:59.630 said word for word what happened to me three years ago. 988 00:48:59.710 --> 00:49:03.750 And I was like, what? And that was my first 989 00:49:03.789 --> 00:49:07.050 time seeing like, oh, wow, I dream backwards, too. I 990 00:49:07.070 --> 00:49:11.409 don't just dream the future. I also see the past. 991 00:49:12.289 --> 00:49:14.630 And I just saw it like it was happening to me. 992 00:49:14.690 --> 00:49:16.170 But it was this guy's life. 993 00:49:16.690 --> 00:49:17.570 Oh, that's crazy. 994 00:49:17.750 --> 00:49:20.510 Yeah. See, so I get that. Like some things I. seen, 995 00:49:22.409 --> 00:49:24.179 I saw it like it was happening to me. And 996 00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:27.480 it reminded me of that show Quantum Leap, right? So 997 00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:30.989 that's why time travel, right? It's real. Like I've done it. 998 00:49:31.139 --> 00:49:34.639 I know it exists. My consciousness time traveled back into 999 00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.880 this person's reality three years prior. I lived an experience 1000 00:49:38.940 --> 00:49:42.130 through him. through his eyes, and then I hop back 1001 00:49:42.170 --> 00:49:45.190 into my body, right? Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, but I 1002 00:49:45.190 --> 00:49:46.989 don't know. Have you ever experienced that? 1003 00:49:47.610 --> 00:49:50.510 No, that would be really, I don't know. Is it cool? 1004 00:49:50.550 --> 00:49:51.550 I think it would be cool. 1005 00:49:51.750 --> 00:49:53.349 No, no, I mean, it's cool because it felt like 1006 00:49:53.389 --> 00:49:55.610 it was happening to me. I didn't realize I was like, 1007 00:49:56.699 --> 00:49:58.980 you know, but it shows how we're all connected. How 1008 00:49:59.019 --> 00:50:05.239 come my consciousness, right? So, yeah, so I've experienced all 1009 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.360 those things, right, to where I see I don't know 1010 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.960 if it's because I've seen, I've been in ancient times, right? 1011 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.480 I've been to where I feel and I don't think 1012 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:20.809 I'm ready to share certain because they aren't people that 1013 00:50:20.829 --> 00:50:24.989 have been known. I would feel like they've showed me 1014 00:50:25.030 --> 00:50:29.510 like 50 confirmations that I was certain people in the past, right? 1015 00:50:29.530 --> 00:50:34.559 And I got to see, yeah, either I wasn't seeing 1016 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.920 it through their eyes because it was me or they 1017 00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:39.780 just allowed me. to jump into this person like 50 1018 00:50:39.780 --> 00:50:43.159 times from the past or something, you know? And, and 1019 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.619 sometimes it's like that. Like it, like, it's like you 1020 00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.519 thinking about what you had for breakfast this morning. It's 1021 00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.400 like that. It's like a memory. So how is it 1022 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.099 a memory? Like it must be. 1023 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:56.739 If you didn't, if Omar didn't live that. 1024 00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.820 Yeah. It must be me that experience because it's, I 1025 00:50:59.860 --> 00:51:01.840 remember it like it just happened to me. 1026 00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:03.639 Cause we're all connected and we're all one. 1027 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:04.239 Yeah. 1028 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:04.500 Yeah. 1029 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:05.059 Yeah. Yeah. 1030 00:51:05.300 --> 00:51:06.409 Which is fascinating. 1031 00:51:06.550 --> 00:51:11.159 Yeah. Yeah. Even, um, Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I don't 1032 00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:12.559 want to, cause I know I go on. 1033 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.760 No, I mean, that was really, I think that's really interesting. 1034 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:18.159 What do you think about manifestation? Like if we have 1035 00:51:18.179 --> 00:51:22.269 all these possibilities in the quantum, like you said, I 1036 00:51:22.309 --> 00:51:24.489 could be, I could have torn my ACL in one 1037 00:51:24.550 --> 00:51:26.130 and I couldn't dance. And then I could be a 1038 00:51:27.090 --> 00:51:32.489 professional ballet dancer in another dimension. Like how much power 1039 00:51:32.510 --> 00:51:34.760 do you think we have to actually manifest what we 1040 00:51:35.500 --> 00:51:40.320 desire or to create our reality? Even, I think sometimes 1041 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:45.920 we actually

create things like sometimes that aren't favorable, but 1042 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.219 we don't, that we manifest. 1043 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.280 But I'd love to just hear your experience with and your. 1044 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:54.159 Understanding of and what you think about manifestation as it 1045 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.750 pertains to like the fact that we live in a matrix. 1046 00:51:57.650 --> 00:52:00.710 Well, can I, am I allowed to cuss on this 1047 00:52:00.789 --> 00:52:01.010 or no? 1048 00:52:01.309 --> 00:52:02.869 You can. I allow it. 1049 00:52:03.530 --> 00:52:04.449 Oh, I don't have to, though. 1050 00:52:04.469 --> 00:52:07.829 It's only because, well, only for YouTube. Okay, okay. So 1051 00:52:07.849 --> 00:52:08.360 why don't we? 1052 00:52:08.369 --> 00:52:08.949 I won't say. 1053 00:52:09.409 --> 00:52:10.670 We won't, but yeah. 1054 00:52:11.150 --> 00:52:14.760 Have you ever seen the movie Scarface? Yes. Okay, so 1055 00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:16.460 I was obsessed with that movie when I was in 1056 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.000 high school, right? Not the best thing for kids. 1057 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:20.019 Right. 1058 00:52:20.579 --> 00:52:23.239 I saw that movie in high school. Huh? Classic, yeah. 1059 00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.860 Especially when, you know, like you're growing up in kind 1060 00:52:26.909 --> 00:52:28.789 of that environment and you want to be all thug 1061 00:52:28.829 --> 00:52:31.949 life or whatever, you know. So there was this line 1062 00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:35.409 where Scarface, you know, I used to always, like, repeat, 1063 00:52:35.550 --> 00:52:38.929 you know, his words. And he has a line where 1064 00:52:38.969 --> 00:52:42.329 they're like, you know, how'd you get that scar, tough 1065 00:52:42.369 --> 00:52:45.030 guy eating, you know? So I don't know if that's 1066 00:52:45.050 --> 00:52:46.909 considered a bad word. I don't know, you know? But 1067 00:52:46.929 --> 00:52:48.090 you know what line I'm talking about? 1068 00:52:48.510 --> 00:52:51.110 I don't remember. It was so long ago. But, yeah. 1069 00:52:51.170 --> 00:52:54.610 You know? But he's talking about, like, the feminine femininity, 1070 00:52:54.630 --> 00:52:54.869 you know? 1071 00:52:54.889 --> 00:52:55.889 Yeah, that's what I imagined. 1072 00:52:55.949 --> 00:52:57.829 Yeah, yeah. He's like, how'd you get a scar like that, 1073 00:52:58.130 --> 00:53:01.309 tough guy eating, you know? And then... He's all, hey, 1074 00:53:01.889 --> 00:53:04.150 how I get a scar like this eating man? You know, 1075 00:53:04.170 --> 00:53:05.690 he goes like that. How I get a scar like 1076 00:53:05.710 --> 00:53:08.690 this eating man? And then, so I used to always 1077 00:53:08.769 --> 00:53:11.210 say that. Hey, how I get a scar? Like, looking 1078 00:53:11.269 --> 00:53:13.050 almost like, oh, it'd be cool if I had a scar. 1079 00:53:13.070 --> 00:53:14.530 Next thing you know, I get in this accident and 1080 00:53:14.550 --> 00:53:15.469 I have this big old scar. 1081 00:53:15.510 --> 00:53:16.610 You have a big scar. 1082 00:53:16.699 --> 00:53:19.880 Yeah, and then I was all self-conscious about it and 1083 00:53:19.900 --> 00:53:21.800 this and that. I would always wear, like, beanies and 1084 00:53:21.860 --> 00:53:26.480 hats to cover it up. And then one day it clicked. 1085 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.610 I was like, oh. Did I manifest that? So even young, 1086 00:53:29.769 --> 00:53:32.130 I knew. I don't know if I used the word manifest. 1087 00:53:32.429 --> 00:53:34.349 It was more like, be careful what you wish for 1088 00:53:34.369 --> 00:53:37.489 because you just might get it. That's what popped in 1089 00:53:37.530 --> 00:53:40.760 my head. Wow. It was like I was wishing for, oh, 1090 00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:42.380 it'd be so cool to have a scar. Like, I'd 1091 00:53:42.420 --> 00:53:45.039 look so cool, right? And then, you know, be careful 1092 00:53:45.059 --> 00:53:46.800 what you wish. And they even used to call me that, like, 1093 00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:49.559 in high school. Like, I would hear people... Like, they 1094 00:53:49.579 --> 00:53:50.880 didn't know my name. They'd be like, oh, the guy 1095 00:53:50.900 --> 00:53:52.679 with the scar or something. And I'd be like, you know, 1096 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.809 so it was like Scarface, right? The guy with the scar, 1097 00:53:55.849 --> 00:53:57.889 you know? Like, I was like, oh, shoot, you know? 1098 00:53:57.949 --> 00:53:59.829 I was totally triggered by the name of that movie 1099 00:53:59.869 --> 00:54:02.909 as a kid because I was so self-conscious about my 1100 00:54:02.989 --> 00:54:06.449 own scar that even just before I even saw the movie, 1101 00:54:06.469 --> 00:54:10.679 I just remember hearing it and automatically cringing just because 1102 00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:12.179 it made me feel self-conscious. 1103 00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.400 Wow. And here I was wanting that. Yeah. 1104 00:54:16.670 --> 00:54:16.949 Yeah. 1105 00:54:16.989 --> 00:54:19.190 But then after I was South Carolina, like, if I 1106 00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:21.070 would meet a girl and I was wearing, like, a beanie, 1107 00:54:21.090 --> 00:54:23.409 then I wouldn't want to meet her, like, without the 1108 00:54:23.449 --> 00:54:25.639 beanie or the hat because I didn't want to show, like, 1109 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:26.019 you know. 1110 00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:27.599 Now you can't even see yours unless it's. 1111 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:31.079 But I loved it. Yeah. After, you know, you find 1112 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.239 out people like Scarlett. Right. 1113 00:54:33.260 --> 00:54:33.559 Yeah. 1114 00:54:33.820 --> 00:54:36.659 Yeah. Like, yeah. So I was like, yeah. But at first, 1115 00:54:37.579 --> 00:54:39.519 it's in high school, right? It was in high school. 1116 00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.579 You know, like, in high school, everything's about, like, you know, technology. 1117

00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:48.150 image and this and that right you're trying to impress 1118 00:54:48.190 --> 00:54:50.190 people or this and that you know what i mean 1119 00:54:50.230 --> 00:54:53.630 so and i think that taught me instantly like i 1120 00:54:53.789 --> 00:54:56.789 it taught me very young because i had to overcome 1121 00:54:56.809 --> 00:54:58.570 that right you have to overcome it so in high 1122 00:54:58.590 --> 00:55:01.969 school i learned to overcome the self-consciousness of like like 1123 00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:04.380 uh oh what are people and then i didn't care 1124 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:04.820 you know. 1125 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:10.820 Right I always felt self-conscious, but I think that's why 1126 00:55:10.860 --> 00:55:13.519 I developed a sense of humor. I became funny because 1127 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.019 that was, you know, they always say like, stand-up comics 1128 00:55:17.059 --> 00:55:19.599 are actually kind of sad clowns. Yeah, yeah. A lot 1129 00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:21.449 of times they're the ones that were made fun of. 1130 00:55:21.570 --> 00:55:24.369 Like someone like Chris Farley, you know, who was overweight 1131 00:55:24.789 --> 00:55:27.530 or whatever. It's like this defense mechanism where we're like, 1132 00:55:27.570 --> 00:55:29.809 we're going to make fun of ourselves first so that you... 1133 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:32.239 can't make fun of me before I make fun of me. 1134 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.519 And so I became very self-deprecating, but I also became 1135 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.219 very funny as like a deflection, I think, which I, 1136 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:43.369 I'm grateful for because I think I'm very funny. And it's, 1137 00:55:43.650 --> 00:55:46.230 it started out as a defense mechanism, but then became 1138 00:55:46.250 --> 00:55:49.570 a personality trait. So I don't mind it, but I 1139 00:55:49.590 --> 00:55:53.750 do remember, yeah, there was a lot of like, but 1140 00:55:53.769 --> 00:55:56.219 I don't think about it that much anymore as an adult, 1141 00:55:56.260 --> 00:55:58.519 you know, like I think you just get, it just 1142 00:55:58.539 --> 00:55:59.559 becomes part of your body. 1143 00:56:00.429 --> 00:56:04.880 Yeah, no. Well, and especially once you understand things even 1144 00:56:04.949 --> 00:56:07.880 with the spiritual lens, right? Yeah. I mean, when you're 1145 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.440 navigating as a kid, it is a little different. Like, 1146 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:13.719 for example, even when I was in junior high and 1147 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.880 then starting high school, right, I had longer hair. But, 1148 00:56:16.900 --> 00:56:18.519 you know, I had that, like, what is it called, 1149 00:56:18.539 --> 00:56:19.940 the little tornado thing back here? 1150 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.219 Oh, yeah, the little swirly thing that babies have. 1151 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.699 Yeah, and the hair, right? Yeah. So I had it 1152 00:56:26.739 --> 00:56:29.489 back here, and then I'd have to– I think at 1153 00:56:29.780 --> 00:56:31.989 one point a friend told me, oh yeah, you use 1154 00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:34.349 hairspray and then you like blow dry it, right? And 1155 00:56:34.389 --> 00:56:36.510 then it stays down. But it always be like, I 1156 00:56:36.530 --> 00:56:37.849 try to, you know, I try to do that. 1157 00:56:37.869 --> 00:56:40.909 Oh, it's a cowlick, which I had too. Same place too. 1158 00:56:41.449 --> 00:56:41.670 Back here? 1159 00:56:41.690 --> 00:56:43.530 Right up here. Yeah. I had the same thing. 1160 00:56:44.070 --> 00:56:46.110 Yeah. So I, I, you know, I try to comb 1161 00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:48.860 my hair back and then bloop, the little Dennis, the 1162 00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:50.559 menace hair will pop up back here. 1163 00:56:50.579 --> 00:56:50.659 Yeah. 1164 00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:54.679 So I was like, man. And then one day though, funny, 1165 00:56:55.059 --> 00:56:58.239 oddly enough, I think I was cutting my hair shorter 1166 00:56:58.260 --> 00:57:00.469 and And then my neighbor, he would cut hair, right? 1167 00:57:00.670 --> 00:57:02.170 He was in high school already trying to, you know, 1168 00:57:02.650 --> 00:57:05.199 like that was a normal thing back then. I don't know. 1169 00:57:05.219 --> 00:57:07.699 I think it's normal still now, but it was like friends, 1170 00:57:07.739 --> 00:57:09.599 you know. Oh, yeah, I'm trying to, you know. So 1171 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.239 that's how you save money, right? With the haircuts, like 1172 00:57:12.260 --> 00:57:16.599 your friend giving you fades or whatever. And then so 1173 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:18.989 he was cutting my hair and he had like a 1174 00:57:19.050 --> 00:57:21.130 big clip on here, right? So it was kind of 1175 00:57:21.150 --> 00:57:23.239 like so I could. All of a sudden, the clip falls, 1176 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.159 and he leaves me a bald spot right in the middle. Yeah, 1177 00:57:26.219 --> 00:57:28.099 and I was like, I even felt like he did 1178 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:29.960 it on purpose, just like being an a-hole. And I 1179 00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.179 was like, what the? You know, and then so like, wow, 1180 00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:34.019 now you got to shave it all off, right? So, 1181 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.739 but what I found was, wow, I was never late 1182 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:40.360 to school anymore. It was like the best thing. And 1183 00:57:40.469 --> 00:57:44.210 even that, like, all of a sudden, like, the girls 1184 00:57:44.269 --> 00:57:47.130 loved it, right? So I was like, oh, wow, like, yeah. 1185 00:57:47.849 --> 00:57:51.130 And back then, the bald head wasn't that popular, right? Yeah. 1186 00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.510 So I got, though, it was like a two-edged sword, 1187 00:57:54.690 --> 00:57:56.110 or I don't know if that's the right word for it, 1188 00:57:56.150 --> 00:57:58.489 because I got all the attention from

the girls, but 1189 00:57:59.510 --> 00:58:02.449 then all the gangbangers, right? Like, I was all getting 1190 00:58:02.489 --> 00:58:04.570 hit up, like, where you from, this and that. I'm 1191 00:58:04.590 --> 00:58:06.750 not from nowhere. Well, why do you look like a gangbanger? 1192 00:58:06.809 --> 00:58:11.730 And I was like, well, my stupid friend cut my 1193 00:58:11.769 --> 00:58:14.789 hair and left me the freaking bald spot. And then 1194 00:58:14.849 --> 00:58:17.650 it's funny, because then it was like, hey, like, you 1195 00:58:17.670 --> 00:58:20.110 took the risk, because obviously, right, in high school, it matters. 1196 00:58:20.500 --> 00:58:23.260 getting the attention from the girls. They're like, I'm being 1197 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.880 threatened of being killed all the time. But hey, at 1198 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:27.519 least the girls. 1199 00:58:27.619 --> 00:58:30.219 Yeah. Female attention. 1200 00:58:30.460 --> 00:58:30.699 Yeah. 1201 00:58:30.739 --> 00:58:30.880 Yeah. 1202 00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:33.269 You get what? Yeah. It felt like, Hey, any, any 1203 00:58:33.309 --> 00:58:36.190 girl you want to deal with the devil? Yeah. It was, 1204 00:58:36.250 --> 00:58:37.969 it was weird, you know, like the, yeah, it was 1205 00:58:38.010 --> 00:58:41.030 just crazy. But, um, so yeah, it was weird. I 1206 00:58:41.050 --> 00:58:43.969 don't know how I think we're just talking about the whole. Yeah. 1207 00:58:44.050 --> 00:58:46.900 But you know, yeah, go ahead. 1208 00:58:47.219 --> 00:58:49.639 No, no, that's a good segue because that was one 1209 00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:53.820 of the, main things that started opening me up. I 1210 00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:58.199 had so many life and death situations that at one 1211 00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:02.300 point it was like, why isn't God letting me die? 1212 00:59:02.909 --> 00:59:06.210 What is this? It was that. I started realizing I 1213 00:59:06.369 --> 00:59:09.989 was being protected. right? It was just, it was too freaky. 1214 00:59:10.050 --> 00:59:13.010 It was like, this doesn't make sense. I almost felt 1215 00:59:13.030 --> 00:59:16.559 like someone else would have died in all these circumstances, right? 1216 00:59:16.579 --> 00:59:19.579 There was just too much, too many things, you know? 1217 00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:23.380 After at one point, when I was in my early 20s, 1218 00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:25.340 this was the story I was going to share earlier. 1219 00:59:25.380 --> 00:59:28.679 Maybe I was meant to segue into it. So what 1220 00:59:28.739 --> 00:59:32.760 happened was, I was still influenced by the religion thing. 1221 00:59:32.860 --> 00:59:35.519 And to my understanding, demons could only hear you if you, 1222 00:59:36.300 --> 00:59:38.760 they couldn't read our thoughts. Only God could, right? Or 1223 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:43.320 stuff like that. So one day, I locked myself in 1224 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.139 my room. I turned off the lights. I kneeled by 1225 00:59:47.179 --> 00:59:50.179 my bed and I asked God a very specific question 1226 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:53.949 inside of my head. And I told him, like, if 1227 00:59:53.989 --> 00:59:57.630 you answer this very specific question, I'll never doubt you again. 1228 00:59:57.730 --> 01:00:01.320 All the crazy things I was already experiencing happened. So 1229 01:00:01.380 --> 01:00:03.400 I had just started a new job. The next day 1230 01:00:03.420 --> 01:00:06.599 I go to work and there's this guy that, you know, 1231 01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.860 he was like this. He had been in prison for eight, 1232 01:00:08.900 --> 01:00:11.480 nine years, you know, all tatted up this and that 1233 01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:16.079 ex gangbanger, you know, all this stuff. Right. And he 1234 01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.019 comes up to me and he's like, hey, man, I 1235 01:00:20.059 --> 01:00:22.059 don't want you to think I'm a weirdo or nothing, 1236 01:00:22.099 --> 01:00:24.019 but I had a dream and I think it was 1237 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.039 for you. And I was like, yeah, yeah. Tell me that. 1238 01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:30.050 Like I knew I was like, what? Like. And he 1239 01:00:30.130 --> 01:00:32.769 tells me the dream, and it was the exact answer 1240 01:00:32.849 --> 01:00:35.489 to what I had as God in my head, in 1241 01:00:35.570 --> 01:00:40.239 my room, inside my head, lights off, nobody seen, locked door. 1242 01:00:40.260 --> 01:00:42.360 So I was like, wow. And then that was it. 1243 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:46.179 I never doubted again for the rest of my life. 1244 01:00:46.219 --> 01:00:50.239 That was my early 20s, right? And, of course, they 1245 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.309 would use this guy because at that point I was 1246 01:00:52.329 --> 01:00:55.849 still in my thug life stage, right? This is who 1247 01:00:56.170 --> 01:00:58.539 at one point I wanted to be like, right? Like, 1248 01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.460 you don't realize it as a kid, right? That's what 1249 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:01.980 you're aiming. You're either going to end up dead or 1250 01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:04.230 in prison or something like that. Here's this guy, and 1251 01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:06.369 he told me, he shared with me a story that 1252 01:01:06.429 --> 01:01:09.170 exactly when he went to prison, he was about, he 1253 01:01:09.210 --> 01:01:10.530 had planned it. He's, I'm going to shoot it out 1254 01:01:10.550 --> 01:01:12.730 with the cops. There's no way I'm going to prison. 1255 01:01:12.769 --> 01:01:17.030 And a voice told him no. And he, and then 1256 01:01:17.070 --> 01:01:18.699 it was like he said while he was in prison, 1257 01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:20.820 it was like he was purging all these demons. Like, 1258 01:01:21.619 --> 01:01:23.820 he got sober in there. It was like all this 1259 01:01:23.900 --> 01:01:27.349 stuff and. Yeah, it was, like, in there all those years. 1260 01:01:27.389 --> 01:01:30.769 He started, like,

renouncing, like, all his old ways. And 1261 01:01:30.789 --> 01:01:32.929 so now he ministered to kids on the weekends, right? 1262 01:01:32.949 --> 01:01:35.989 So there's always been a connection. Like, so he was 1263 01:01:36.030 --> 01:01:40.280 a Christian guy, right? Like, hardcore Christian guy. But, yeah, 1264 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:42.940 I don't know. He was meant to be on my path, right? Like, 1265 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:45.840 there was a lot of that. I still... I have 1266 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:50.090 a strong connection to, like, all that stuff. But I 1267 01:01:50.130 --> 01:01:53.489 don't know why in this reality... I don't know. We just, like... 1268 01:01:54.469 --> 01:01:57.869 It's weird, right? I know it's not their fault, right? 1269 01:01:58.050 --> 01:02:00.710 At some point, though, it's like it's just the illusion 1270 01:02:00.750 --> 01:02:03.389 is that big, right? The illusion, they used it, right? 1271 01:02:03.409 --> 01:02:05.449 People don't realize that it's been used as a tool 1272 01:02:05.510 --> 01:02:09.699 to hold people captive, right? To hold people prisoner, to 1273 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:13.340 be prisoner of the mind, right? Like they own your 1274 01:02:13.380 --> 01:02:16.800 mind because you just blindly follow, right? That's never a 1275 01:02:17.539 --> 01:02:19.820 good thing to just blindly follow. So I'll just, I 1276 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:21.500 won't go too much into that. But anyways, that was 1277 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:22.900 the thing I was going to share earlier. So that's 1278 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.610 what happened. I asked the question, the answer was given 1279 01:02:25.929 --> 01:02:29.289 to me through someone else. So I don't think I, 1280 01:02:29.989 --> 01:02:33.289 that's why I say when I say, like, I always say, like, 1281 01:02:33.369 --> 01:02:35.550 I don't have the luxury of not believing in God. 1282 01:02:35.570 --> 01:02:38.230 Because whoever, right, to me, I ask God a question, 1283 01:02:39.550 --> 01:02:43.570 and I don't think I went and put the answer into, yeah, 1284 01:02:43.710 --> 01:02:45.570 I didn't do it. And, okay, here, you're going to 1285 01:02:45.610 --> 01:02:48.269 give me this answer tomorrow, right? So to me, it 1286 01:02:48.309 --> 01:02:52.269 was like, whatever, right, like the creator, higher, you know, source, right? 1287 01:02:53.670 --> 01:02:56.710 And then, boom, someone else brought me and someone I 1288 01:02:56.809 --> 01:03:00.590 related to, right? Someone that it meant something getting that 1289 01:03:00.670 --> 01:03:02.949 answer from them. You know what I mean? Yeah. 1290 01:03:03.170 --> 01:03:05.590 I mean, there's no doubt in my mind now that 1291 01:03:06.469 --> 01:03:10.679 magic is real. Because even when I first started doing mediumship, 1292 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:14.019 I would even question, maybe I'm just doing a psychological trick. 1293 01:03:14.260 --> 01:03:16.239 Maybe somehow I'm picking up on something. 1294 01:03:16.579 --> 01:03:17.800 But then you get to a point where you've done 1295 01:03:17.860 --> 01:03:20.840 enough readings where you're like, okay, but that doesn't explain 1296 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:22.739 half of what I'm receiving. 1297 01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:22.860 Right. 1298 01:03:23.190 --> 01:03:25.510 Because I could guess that you have a brother and 1299 01:03:25.530 --> 01:03:27.909 you could say, yeah, you know, like I could be like, okay, 1300 01:03:27.929 --> 01:03:31.329 you have a brother on the other side. You know, 1301 01:03:31.469 --> 01:03:35.449 and then, but when I get specific names, dates, place, 1302 01:03:35.530 --> 01:03:39.139 or not dates so much, although there has, I just remembered, 1303 01:03:39.179 --> 01:03:42.019 I did a reading once where I saw silver coin 1304 01:03:42.059 --> 01:03:43.800 and then I'm like, I'm zooming in and I see 1305 01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:44.239 the date. 1306 01:03:45.099 --> 01:03:45.800 Whatever it was. 1307 01:03:46.179 --> 01:03:48.000 And they're like, Oh, that's the date that my parents 1308 01:03:48.260 --> 01:03:51.159 got married or whatever it was, you know? And like how, 1309 01:03:51.300 --> 01:03:53.860 there's no way I would know that. And, um, there, 1310 01:03:53.909 --> 01:03:57.239 there are just too many, too many instances where I'm like, 1311 01:03:57.260 --> 01:03:59.250 there is absolutely no way that I could have made 1312 01:03:59.289 --> 01:04:00.769 that up or guessed it. 1313 01:04:01.130 --> 01:04:02.110 It's too specific. 1314 01:04:02.449 --> 01:04:05.369 And that's what, where the magic is real title comes 1315 01:04:05.429 --> 01:04:09.829 from is once I started really seeing for myself, I'm 1316 01:04:09.849 --> 01:04:12.610 getting chills again, that It is real. 1317 01:04:12.889 --> 01:04:13.880 It is. It is real. 1318 01:04:13.929 --> 01:04:17.559 And it's so hard to believe. I'm getting chills right now, 1319 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:21.679 like major chills. Like you said to me when we met, 1320 01:04:21.739 --> 01:04:23.800 I said, I have a group reading this weekend. That 1321 01:04:23.820 --> 01:04:26.909 was last Sunday, which went great. And I just every 1322 01:04:26.929 --> 01:04:29.090 time I do it, I get nervous because you don't 1323 01:04:29.130 --> 01:04:31.090 know what spirit's about to say. Like, you just have 1324 01:04:31.130 --> 01:04:34.769 no idea. You're standing up in front of 15, 20. Well, 1325 01:04:34.809 --> 01:04:38.760 for me, it was like 16 people. And they're just 1326 01:04:38.780 --> 01:04:40.739 looking at you and you're like, I've just got to 1327 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.599 say whatever weird thing comes into my head and just 1328 01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.119 hope that it lands. And before you know it, you're 1329 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.679 just two hours of that. And in fact, we went 1330 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:51.099 a little over two hours. I brought everyone upstairs. We 1331

01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.260 had to leave the room and I was like, I've 1332 01:04:52.300 --> 01:04:54.679 still got more messages coming through. And the thing is 1333 01:04:54.739 --> 01:04:57.369 that every time I'm like, oh my God, what if 1334 01:04:57.429 --> 01:04:59.710 I get up there and nothing happens? And you said 1335 01:05:00.929 --> 01:05:04.590 something which is so simple, but so true. Like if 1336 01:05:04.630 --> 01:05:05.869 you're seeing it, it is something. 1337 01:05:06.929 --> 01:05:07.570 It is something. 1338 01:05:07.650 --> 01:05:09.639 So don't even worry about it. It may not, even 1339 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.320 if it doesn't resonate right now, you're seeing it. Therefore 1340 01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:15.340 you're getting a message. And I think that's a good 1341 01:05:15.380 --> 01:05:18.159 message for the viewers too, is like when you talk 1342 01:05:18.179 --> 01:05:20.840 with spirit, the biggest, the worst thing we can do 1343 01:05:20.900 --> 01:05:21.699 is doubt ourselves. 1344 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:23.500 Yeah. Right. 1345 01:05:23.539 --> 01:05:28.070 And get in our head about, about what we're receiving. It's, 1346 01:05:28.289 --> 01:05:31.650 it feels so, you think there's no way that I 1347 01:05:31.670 --> 01:05:33.739 can be, I mean, I, And every time I do 1348 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:34.400 a reading, I'm like. 1349 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.260 How did that happen? That's so crazy. 1350 01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:40.480 Yeah, I love it. No, even right now, like inside 1351 01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.880 of me, I could see like inside of me, like 1352 01:05:44.139 --> 01:05:53.489 all excited. For me, I'm still in awe, right? I'm 1353 01:05:53.550 --> 01:05:56.650 still in awe of everything. No matter how many things 1354 01:05:56.730 --> 01:06:01.179 I've experienced, Like I shared this on a video, for example. 1355 01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.639 But this is how much they communicate with me, right? Like, 1356 01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:06.139 for example, they asked me last minute to sub a 1357 01:06:06.179 --> 01:06:11.360 yoga class, right? And I was like, okay, I'll do it, right? 1358 01:06:11.380 --> 01:06:13.340 I said yes. And then the next day I got 1359 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:15.800 up and I just leave my house. And as I'm 1360 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:22.969 leaving my house, there's a lady pushing a stroller with 1361 01:06:23.030 --> 01:06:25.730 a baby in it. And from the stroller, there's four 1362 01:06:25.769 --> 01:06:29.170 balloons hanging, right? Four balloons with stars on it. And 1363 01:06:29.230 --> 01:06:31.550 by seeing that, I knew, okay, I'm going to have 1364 01:06:31.590 --> 01:06:34.730 four students in my class today. Just by seeing four 1365 01:06:35.309 --> 01:06:39.260 star balloons, how did I know that? How did that 1366 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.320 psychic message pass? Oh, four stars. This lady was put 1367 01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:44.920 on your path to tell you. And then sure enough, 1368 01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:47.579 I get to the thing. But only when I log in, 1369 01:06:47.780 --> 01:06:50.679 I mean, I get there, open the studio. And then 1370 01:06:51.260 --> 01:06:54.809 there's only two people registered. And I'm like, but I 1371 01:06:54.849 --> 01:06:58.159 knew something, right? And sure enough. before the class starts, 1372 01:06:58.219 --> 01:07:01.590 two more people come in and I got my four stars, 1373 01:07:01.619 --> 01:07:05.469 you know? So, yeah, but it was like, it was like, wow. 1374 01:07:05.550 --> 01:07:08.210 Cause before, you know, I shared like, you know, I 1375 01:07:08.230 --> 01:07:11.329 would see things even in the clouds. I'll see a 1376 01:07:11.429 --> 01:07:14.820 scene playing out in the clouds. And before the day 1377 01:07:14.860 --> 01:07:17.860 was over, that scene would happen. Like, it'd be like, 1378 01:07:17.980 --> 01:07:20.820 like I'd see, yeah, it just create like how, like, 1379 01:07:20.860 --> 01:07:24.940 so all this reality. So earlier you asked like about, yeah, 1380 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:27.760 we could create anything we want. I know there is 1381 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:32.239 that of, there is a pre-planning and this and that, right? 1382 01:07:32.260 --> 01:07:37.300 Some of us experience, but there is also the free will, right? 1383 01:07:37.539 --> 01:07:42.260 While we're here, we can create whatever we want. Why 1384 01:07:42.300 --> 01:07:44.730 do people want to create all the destruction? I get it. 1385 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:49.000 Maybe that's, Some people come here to experience that, but 1386 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:57.829 I think creatively, yeah. I love the unicorns and rainbows, literally. 1387 01:07:57.849 --> 01:08:00.929 I like all that crazy stuff. I don't need to 1388 01:08:01.010 --> 01:08:04.909 see someone getting blown to bits or all this other craziness. 1389 01:08:04.989 --> 01:08:07.449 I don't know. Some people have that in them. I 1390 01:08:07.469 --> 01:08:10.710 don't know why, but we can manifest because we are 1391 01:08:10.769 --> 01:08:15.739 manifesting that. Think about everyone... that made a choice to 1392 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.020 make that happen, right? The first person that said, I'm 1393 01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:20.619 going to create a bomb. And then the person that said, 1394 01:08:20.689 --> 01:08:22.100 I'm going to buy this bomb so one day I 1395 01:08:22.149 --> 01:08:25.170 could use it. And then someone that, you know, all 1396 01:08:25.489 --> 01:08:29.369 the one choice that someone got an idea and created 1397 01:08:29.409 --> 01:08:32.369 something destructive, right? And all the hands that it passed 1398 01:08:32.409 --> 01:08:35.449 through to get to that point. So we are manifesting that. 1399 01:08:36.109 --> 01:08:38.409 It does come from somewhere. We do have that choice 1400 01:08:38.949 --> 01:08:42.149 to create the reality we want while we're here, right? 1401 01:08:42.210 -->

01:08:48.260 Like 100%, right? I said that, right? It's funny. People 1402 01:08:48.340 --> 01:08:51.000 don't realize how important they are in this reality, right? 1403 01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:56.810 Even you, whatever. You asked me why I created my podcast. 1404 01:08:56.829 --> 01:08:59.050 What made you create yours? If you don't mind. I 1405 01:08:59.149 --> 01:09:00.600 know that you're interviewing me. me, but I want to 1406 01:09:00.699 --> 01:09:01.060 ask you. 1407 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:03.199 No, because we're both podcast hosts. 1408 01:09:05.979 --> 01:09:13.409 I am a voice actor and right before the pandemic happened, 1409 01:09:13.869 --> 01:09:18.289 I developed vocal cord dysfunction and muscle tension dysphonia and 1410 01:09:18.689 --> 01:09:22.630 And I wasn't able to perform anymore. And during that time, 1411 01:09:22.670 --> 01:09:28.359 it was like, I had already been watching near-death experiences for, 1412 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:31.079 I don't know, that year. I just started watching them 1413 01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:32.699 because you said like the algorithm. 1414 01:09:33.659 --> 01:09:36.239 So it's like, why? Because I was called to, but 1415 01:09:36.350 --> 01:09:38.010 I don't even know why. Like, I can't even tell 1416 01:09:38.050 --> 01:09:39.729 you why I was watching them. I just was. 1417 01:09:39.770 --> 01:09:42.130 And then one would lead to the next. And I 1418 01:09:42.170 --> 01:09:46.270 just became really interested. And then I had to, I 1419 01:09:46.310 --> 01:09:50.640 couldn't work anymore because I, had my vocal cords weren't functioning. 1420 01:09:51.659 --> 01:09:56.659 I could talk, but it was difficult to speak. And 1421 01:09:56.819 --> 01:10:01.300 so I went to a voice coach and she said, 1422 01:10:01.340 --> 01:10:03.979 the main thing right now, you're going to have to 1423 01:10:04.020 --> 01:10:08.180 really focus on your nervous system regulation because muscle tension 1424 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:12.579 dysphonia is a tension disorder, partly. There were other things 1425 01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.880 involved like acid reflux, irritating my vocal cords, which was 1426 01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:18.060 was causing them to spasm. 1427 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.279 So they wouldn't close. So I was like talking like this. 1428 01:10:22.340 --> 01:10:25.140 And then I was straining. So then I developed muscle 1429 01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:28.319 tension dysphonia, but that became an anxiety disorder because then 1430 01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.720 I was stressed. So then the muscles in my throat 1431 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:35.279 became stiff and like more, so my vocal cords wouldn't 1432 01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:36.430 move fluidly. 1433 01:10:37.270 --> 01:10:39.430 And then my vocal coach said. 1434 01:10:39.630 --> 01:10:41.729 All right, we're going to stop doing all the exercises 1435 01:10:41.750 --> 01:10:44.250 because you're just stressing out about, I need my voice back. 1436 01:10:44.270 --> 01:10:45.670 This is my money. How am I going to work? 1437 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:47.979 And she said, I want you to read The Power 1438 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.500 of Now, do yoga, meditate. And I just started watching 1439 01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:54.739 all this. I started reading spiritual books. I started reading. 1440 01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:57.819 And I cannot even tell you because I don't remember 1441 01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.739 why I picked up John Edwards' book or why I 1442 01:11:00.779 --> 01:11:04.500 picked up Teresa Caputo's book or Kim Russo or John 1443 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:07.810 Holland or Suzanne Giesemann's book. But I just started binge. 1444 01:11:09.029 --> 01:11:10.810 I just got chills, which they were telling me because 1445 01:11:10.949 --> 01:11:14.350 we sent them to you. And I just started to 1446 01:11:14.430 --> 01:11:15.850 read that psychic mediums. 1447 01:11:16.949 --> 01:11:17.649 Can be trained. 1448 01:11:17.710 --> 01:11:19.909 Like you can learn to do this. You don't, it's 1449 01:11:19.970 --> 01:11:23.260 not just for the chosen few. And something in me 1450 01:11:23.380 --> 01:11:27.199 clicked where, um, I was like, I just want to 1451 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.840 take classes doing this. And at the same time I 1452 01:11:29.859 --> 01:11:34.180 was able to talk enough conversationally. It just wasn't comfortable. Um, 1453 01:11:35.100 --> 01:11:37.340 I just decided, I don't know. I think it was 1454 01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:39.979 like you, I think it was like you spirit just 1455 01:11:40.020 --> 01:11:43.489 said to make this podcast. And I thought, but I don't, 1456 01:11:43.869 --> 01:11:45.550 no one knows who I am. I don't have any 1457 01:11:45.590 --> 01:11:48.970 connections in the NDE world. I don't have a book. 1458 01:11:49.289 --> 01:11:51.449 Who's going to listen to my podcast? And I heard, 1459 01:11:52.489 --> 01:11:55.279 it doesn't matter. You're going to give your own unique 1460 01:11:55.340 --> 01:11:58.739 perspective to the podcast. And I thought, I just want 1461 01:11:58.760 --> 01:11:59.640 to interview these people. 1462 01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:00.460 I don't know why. 1463 01:12:01.539 --> 01:12:05.199 So I just began to interview some mediums that I knew, 1464 01:12:05.699 --> 01:12:08.939 that I was studying with. And I kept hearing, I 1465 01:12:08.979 --> 01:12:11.479 kept putting it off. Because what if it's not good enough? 1466 01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.119 What if I, I don't know all the technical stuff. 1467 01:12:14.149 --> 01:12:16.210 How am I going to? who's going to care about this? 1468 01:12:16.270 --> 01:12:17.640 How do I even ask people to be on it? 1469 01:12:18.170 --> 01:12:20.970 And, um, it was spirit led now I know because 1470 01:12:21.409 --> 01:12:23.550 I interviewed a few people and then I thought, okay, 1471 01:12:23.569 --> 01:12:26.229 now I have to ask these near death experiencers. I 1472 01:12:26.289 -->

01:12:28.689 had seen Trisha Barker's interviews. 1473 01:12:28.369 --> 01:12:29.090 For a long time. 1474 01:12:30.210 --> 01:12:32.680 And I was like, Oh, she's, yeah, she's a near 1475 01:12:32.689 --> 01:12:35.539 death experiencer. And, um, I was like, I feel like 1476 01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.680 we'd be friends. And then, but I was like, she 1477 01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:40.880 would never be on my podcast because I only have 1478 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.100 200 followers and they're all my friends and my mom, 1479 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.489 you know, it's like, People are trying to be supportive. 1480 01:12:46.109 --> 01:12:49.750 And one day I just I had posted something and 1481 01:12:49.770 --> 01:12:51.869 I might have hashtagged NDE or something. And then I 1482 01:12:51.930 --> 01:12:53.840 saw that Trisha Barker liked it, but I wasn't even 1483 01:12:53.939 --> 01:12:56.500 following her at the time. And I thought, I think 1484 01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.359 that's my sign. I'm just going to reach out to her. 1485 01:12:58.699 --> 01:13:01.539 So I said, hey, I only have 200 followers, but 1486 01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.640 would you do my podcast? And she's like, absolutely, I'll 1487 01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.520 do it. And God bless her. And then she's and 1488 01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:09.149 then she did it. And she's like, I loved it. 1489 01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:11.500 I'll tell my other friends I can vouch for you. 1490 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.350 And then she and I became friends. And then it 1491 01:13:14.670 --> 01:13:16.909 was like, oh, I'll tell other people to do your podcast. 1492 01:13:16.930 --> 01:13:20.260 So it was, I know that it was divine. I 1493 01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:21.800 think you and I were, I don't mean to say 1494 01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:23.279 that from, like you said, like, I don't mean, oh, 1495 01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.479 I'm the, there are so many great podcasts, so many 1496 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:30.199 wonderful podcasts about near death experiences. But I think each 1497 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:32.039 of us, like you said, we each have our own 1498 01:13:32.060 --> 01:13:35.550 little community. And people might resonate more with you than 1499 01:13:35.569 --> 01:13:37.909 they do with me or me and you and the 1500 01:13:37.949 --> 01:13:40.829 people who, or maybe hopefully they'll resonate with both of us. 1501 01:13:41.270 --> 01:13:42.810 And then the beautiful. 1502 01:13:42.449 --> 01:13:44.609 Thing is it became, my mission is to take the 1503 01:13:44.649 --> 01:13:48.880 fear out of death and to, I'm getting chills, to 1504 01:13:48.939 --> 01:13:53.319 help people. Also to make it grounded. And I think 1505 01:13:53.340 --> 01:13:55.819 that's what you have too. You and I are pretty 1506 01:13:55.859 --> 01:13:58.600 like relatable people. You know, I think we're just like 1507 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:02.479 regular people. And what I wanted was for this to 1508 01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:07.119 be very grounded. Not so woo-woo that people– I wanted 1509 01:14:07.140 --> 01:14:08.760 it to be someplace that if you were sort of 1510 01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:13.140 a skeptic, you could listen. And it could be, you 1511 01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:17.430 know what? These people are intelligent. They're not– not that 1512 01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.689 woo-woo people aren't intelligent, but it might not resonate with everyone. 1513 01:14:21.050 --> 01:14:22.590 And I was like, I think that what I bring 1514 01:14:22.670 --> 01:14:24.789 is I was an atheist for a lot of my life. 1515 01:14:25.430 --> 01:14:25.529 Oh. 1516 01:14:26.550 --> 01:14:28.710 And so I didn't believe in this stuff at all. 1517 01:14:28.949 --> 01:14:31.390 Like I said, I grew up real waspy with like 1518 01:14:31.470 --> 01:14:35.210 no religion and no spirituality. even though my mom is 1519 01:14:35.510 --> 01:14:39.260 highly psychic and I found that really interesting. So I 1520 01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:41.720 was sort of an agnostic and I just, I was 1521 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:44.359 always interested, but also kind of like, nah, that's not real. 1522 01:14:45.300 --> 01:14:47.819 I thought it was wishful thinking. So I wanted it 1523 01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.500 to be a place where an atheist could come and 1524 01:14:50.539 --> 01:14:53.909 be like, actually, from a scientific standpoint, this actually makes 1525 01:14:53.949 --> 01:14:57.710 some sense or like a quantum physics perspective. I could 1526 01:14:57.729 --> 01:15:00.630 see how that might be true and, and really bring 1527 01:15:01.109 --> 01:15:05.010 the spirituality of, to a grounded place where anyone can 1528 01:15:05.029 --> 01:15:06.029 watch it and go, you know what? 1529 01:15:06.789 --> 01:15:08.949 I don't know. I'm kind of a skeptic, but I'm, 1530 01:15:09.130 --> 01:15:09.850 I'm interested. 1531 01:15:10.340 --> 01:15:12.340 So I think, and I think that's what you and 1532 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:13.939 I have the gift of is we can relate with 1533 01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.859 a lot of different people. You know, you, you know, 1534 01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:19.800 like we've all got our communities or maybe it's like 1535 01:15:20.300 --> 01:15:22.659 people might relate with you. As you said, like a 1536 01:15:22.699 --> 01:15:25.859 lot of Mexican families are, or people are very religious 1537 01:15:26.180 --> 01:15:29.279 and maybe there's someone that's like, I, I'm Mexican and religious, 1538 01:15:29.350 --> 01:15:31.850 but I also see dead people. And like, you know, 1539 01:15:31.909 --> 01:15:34.750 and so whatever it is or whatever it is that 1540 01:15:34.770 --> 01:15:37.569 they relate with in us. And I think that's that's 1541 01:15:38.090 --> 01:15:40.109 I just know it was spirit led. 1542 01:15:40.130 --> 01:15:40.489 Yeah. 1543 01:15:40.510 --> 01:15:40.890 But yeah. 1544 01:15:41.750 --> 01:15:46.810 No, no. Thank you. But like, no, you're right. Like 1545

01:15:46.850 --> 01:15:47.720 a lot of people. 1546 01:15:47.729 --> 01:15:47.810 Yeah. 1547 01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:52.319 Like they tell you in private. Right. Like, I mean, 1548 01:15:52.340 --> 01:15:55.159 now it's more open. Right. Yeah. You know, thankfully, it's 1549 01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:59.800 more open. Yeah. But, yeah, at first it was like, yeah, 1550 01:15:59.899 --> 01:16:02.489 people were like, hey, me too. Or, hey, you know, 1551 01:16:02.529 --> 01:16:07.470 I have dreams too. Or all this stuff, right? So, yeah, yeah. 1552 01:16:07.670 --> 01:16:09.970 Once you start putting it out there, you know, my 1553 01:16:10.029 --> 01:16:13.260 favorite saying, not my favorite saying, but in this kind 1554 01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:16.020 of thing is, you know, Wayne's World, right? Yeah. Like, 1555 01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:17.539 if you book them, they will come. 1556 01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:18.340 Yes. 1557 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.539 Like, that always pops in my, even now still, they'll 1558 01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.039 be like, And the same, right? Like, I reached out 1559 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.340 the same. Like, I had probably, like, 100 followers or 1560 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:31.460 subscribers on YouTube. And I reached out to, like, readers, right, 1561 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.090 that would have over 100,000. And they agreed to do it. 1562 01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:39.880 And I was like, oh, wow. Like, this is pretty amazing. And, 1563 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:44.069 you know, yeah, yeah. Bless their hearts for. But, you know, 1564 01:16:44.090 --> 01:16:47.090 I think it's meant, like, it's a spiritual thing, right? 1565 01:16:47.369 --> 01:16:50.710 That's what Tricia said, too, I think, if I recall, 1566 01:16:50.750 --> 01:16:52.869 that she was like, I kind of. at least someone 1567 01:16:52.909 --> 01:16:54.670 has said this to me. So Tricia, if it wasn't you, 1568 01:16:55.350 --> 01:16:57.689 but it was like, yeah, I asked spirit, should I 1569 01:16:57.729 --> 01:16:59.710 do this? I've had several, and I'm sure they said 1570 01:16:59.729 --> 01:17:02.350 the same to you. Is this a good podcast? Should 1571 01:17:02.369 --> 01:17:04.949 I collaborate with this person? And a lot of people 1572 01:17:04.989 --> 01:17:06.189 have said it just was an instant. 1573 01:17:06.229 --> 01:17:06.520 Yes. 1574 01:17:06.569 --> 01:17:09.460 I could feel your energy or, and the near death 1575 01:17:09.500 --> 01:17:12.840 experiencers are so generous with their time because they also 1576 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.420 want people to know that this isn't all there is. 1577 01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:18.520 And they don't have egos. I mean, I'm not saying none. 1578 01:17:18.420 --> 01:17:21.079 Of them do, but for the most part, it's a 1579 01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:26.359 very grounded earthy community of people that there's a reason, 1580 01:17:26.380 --> 01:17:30.899 you know, like they're so chill because they died and 1581 01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:33.460 they're like, I came back and like, I'm not going 1582 01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:35.420 to sweat it if you're five minutes late for our 1583 01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.300 podcast interview or if like, you know, there are, or if, 1584 01:17:39.340 --> 01:17:41.100 you know, I thought about that, that there was one 1585 01:17:41.140 --> 01:17:43.119 time when I just totally forgot I had an interview 1586 01:17:43.189 --> 01:17:45.380 and I was out driving for Amazon and And this 1587 01:17:45.420 --> 01:17:47.140 guy's like, don't we have a meeting right now? 1588 01:17:47.220 --> 01:17:49.270 And I was like, oh, my God. I forgot to 1589 01:17:49.289 --> 01:17:52.229 put it on my calendar. And he's like, it's fine. 1590 01:17:52.390 --> 01:17:53.029 Divine timing. 1591 01:17:53.130 --> 01:17:55.470 And I'm like, most of these people, we all understand. 1592 01:17:55.529 --> 01:17:58.270 It's all in the flow, man. It's fine. And they 1593 01:17:58.369 --> 01:17:59.470 want to get the word out. 1594 01:17:59.550 --> 01:18:01.550 And so they're not– they know that if you have 1595 01:18:01.550 --> 01:18:05.979 100 subscribers, even if it never went past that, if 1596 01:18:06.180 --> 01:18:08.920 one person heard the message they need to hear, it's 1597 01:18:08.979 --> 01:18:10.000 worth delivering. 1598 01:18:10.699 --> 01:18:14.729 Yeah. And I think I already had that mentality from– 1599 01:18:15.029 --> 01:18:20.199 writing songs. Because even sometimes when I would write songs, yeah, 1600 01:18:20.340 --> 01:18:24.000 it was powerful, right? Like something, that song, those songs 1601 01:18:24.859 --> 01:18:27.619 meant something. Like, I didn't even understand, right? There were 1602 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:30.920 certain songs that I'd write it and all of a sudden, like, 1603 01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:33.390 I'm breaking down in tears and I'm like, what in 1604 01:18:33.430 --> 01:18:36.170 the world just happened? But even that, right? Like, I 1605 01:18:36.210 --> 01:18:40.250 remember once I woke up late to work and I 1606 01:18:40.369 --> 01:18:44.039 called and, um, I'm like, hey, you guys still want 1607 01:18:44.060 --> 01:18:46.609 me to come in? I just woke up and they're like, nah, 1608 01:18:46.649 --> 01:18:49.510 it's fine. And because of that, I wrote one of 1609 01:18:49.529 --> 01:18:53.579 the songs that most people like the most relatable song 1610 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:56.239 to people that people even cry to in this. And 1611 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.859 I'm like, wow, like divine timing. Right. Like something made 1612 01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:01.960 me wake up late. Like my alarm didn't. I don't 1613 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:06.180 know what happened. But because of that, I ended up 1614 01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:10.390 staying home and writing a song. Right. at that time, right, like, 1615 01:19:10.430 --> 01:19:12.390 three in the morning, four in the morning, and I'm 1616 01:19:12.409 --> 01:19:14.430

writing a song, and then that ends up being a 1617 01:19:14.449 --> 01:19:17.609 song that impacted a lot of, everything's all divine, right, 1618 01:19:18.350 --> 01:19:19.970 and it didn't blow up, right, it wasn't a song 1619 01:19:20.010 --> 01:19:23.010 that blew up, but I know every person that, like, 1620 01:19:23.050 --> 01:19:25.890 would hear it, or I got a lot of reactions 1621 01:19:25.930 --> 01:19:27.760 from it, right, so whoever was meant to hear it, 1622 01:19:27.890 --> 01:19:32.319 heard it, because, yeah, it was one of those, you know, like, 1623 01:19:32.380 --> 01:19:35.600 spirit-led kind of things, you know, so everything, I mean, 1624 01:19:35.619 --> 01:19:38.329 there's no different, right, like, In that, in doing a 1625 01:19:38.390 --> 01:19:41.930 podcast and sharing a message and a song, sharing a message, right? 1626 01:19:42.390 --> 01:19:44.789 Like we're sharing, you know, and yeah, cause you told 1627 01:19:44.810 --> 01:19:46.869 me you're a, you don't, you don't mind me saying 1628 01:19:46.909 --> 01:19:50.060 like your astrology thing and all that, right? But like you're, 1629 01:19:50.460 --> 01:19:52.640 you're a Virgo. See, so us, you know, I'm a Gemini, 1630 01:19:52.659 --> 01:19:55.560 you're a Virgo. We're meant to be the communicators, right? 1631 01:19:55.579 --> 01:20:00.239 Like we are messaged in physical form, right? Like that's literally, 1632 01:20:00.779 --> 01:20:04.020 you know, we're meant to do that, right? Podcasts, songs, 1633 01:20:04.100 --> 01:20:06.920 all the, all this stuff we're, We're ruled by Mercury 1634 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.199 and that's coming. Isn't it like right now supposed to be? 1635 01:20:09.479 --> 01:20:12.060 I don't know. Like the retrogrades, all that stuff. 1636 01:20:12.340 --> 01:20:15.279 Everything's in retrograde right now. Right now? That's all I know. Everything. 1637 01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:18.520 Like every planet. So many planets are in retrograde. So 1638 01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:20.359 astrologers are like, watch out. 1639 01:20:21.659 --> 01:20:24.199 Why this morning? I told you my internet went down 1640 01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:25.680 and I was like, oh, wow, we're not going to 1641 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:28.439 be able to do this. This part. Like I was like, 1642 01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:30.380 I'm going to use my phone. Yeah. Yeah. 1643 01:20:31.619 --> 01:20:32.539 I blame Mercury. 1644 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:35.810 Yeah. And it came back right before as we're about 1645 01:20:35.850 --> 01:20:38.149 to do the podcast. They had said, oh, it's not 1646 01:20:38.170 --> 01:20:40.770 going to come back on until 9 p.m. tonight. And 1647 01:20:40.930 --> 01:20:42.689 like a two something, it comes back on. 1648 01:20:42.710 --> 01:20:44.689 Because we were meant to do it today, fine timing. 1649 01:20:45.109 --> 01:20:46.850 And I just got chills. 1650 01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.279 When I said that. Like huge. I don't know why 1651 01:20:49.380 -->

01:20:49.840 it has to be. 1652 01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:51.359 But it's like we could have done it next week 1653 01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:53.779 and I'm sure it still would have been great. But yeah, 1654 01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:55.619 I just wanted to also just say one more thing 1655 01:20:55.659 --> 01:21:00.520 about like how to pay attention to signs because. Last 1656 01:21:00.579 --> 01:21:02.539 week I went to Trader Joe's and I saw that 1657 01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:05.340 they had marigolds there. Well, one of my friends, I 1658 01:21:05.380 --> 01:21:08.189 just got chills. Um, on the spirit side, his name 1659 01:21:08.229 --> 01:21:11.590 is Derek. He worked at a place called Marigold. So 1660 01:21:11.609 --> 01:21:13.250 I was like, Oh, I thought if I, so I 1661 01:21:13.289 --> 01:21:16.529 was like, Oh, like right before he died. And I'm like, 1662 01:21:16.909 --> 01:21:18.949 and it's my parents' favorite restaurant in Virginia. We were 1663 01:21:18.989 --> 01:21:21.470 all living out in Virginia at the time, even though 1664 01:21:21.510 --> 01:21:23.840 he was a musician and actor too. And from L 1665 01:21:24.100 --> 01:21:28.079 from LA and Nashville, but we were out there and, um, 1666 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:31.199 he worked at Marigold. So I thought, well, I kind 1667 01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:33.039 of just thought of Derek when I saw it. And 1668 01:21:33.060 --> 01:21:34.260 I'm like, I don't know that it... But I said, 1669 01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:37.020 I don't think it's a sign necessarily because they just 1670 01:21:37.060 --> 01:21:37.699 have marigolds. 1671 01:21:38.220 --> 01:21:41.149 But whatever, I'll take it. Hi, Derek. And then I 1672 01:21:42.810 --> 01:21:46.170 got an audition in and it said the project was Marigold. 1673 01:21:46.689 --> 01:21:46.989 Wow. 1674 01:21:47.189 --> 01:21:48.670 And it was a fake name, so I think I 1675 01:21:48.710 --> 01:21:53.029 can use it. But like it was... And then I 1676 01:21:53.029 --> 01:21:55.560 was like, oh, okay, that's interesting. 1677 01:21:55.579 --> 01:21:56.460 It was like the next day. 1678 01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:57.119 And then.... 1679 01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:00.659 You just, it happened again. 1680 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.119 It was like the day of where suddenly I saw 1681 01:22:03.180 --> 01:22:06.640 something about marigolds. I don't remember what it was. Well, 1682 01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:11.100 then I'm in the group reading on Sunday and I'm 1683 01:22:11.229 --> 01:22:14.819 with this woman and I'm like, I'm hearing Marjorie and 1684 01:22:14.859 --> 01:22:15.829 she's like, that's my grandma. 1685 01:22:15.869 --> 01:22:17.489 I'm like, okay, I'm with you. 1686 01:22:18.350 --> 01:22:20.869 So I go to her, her dad's coming through, her 1687 01:22:20.909 --> 01:22:23.489 grandma's coming through, giving me all this evidence. And suddenly 1688 01:22:23.529 --> 01:22:26.329 I just feel like I want to talk about the marigolds. 1689 01:22:26.850 --> 01:22:29.460 And I said, I feel like this might be for you. 1690 01:22:29.539 --> 01:22:33.319 I keep seeing marigolds everywhere, like signs about marigolds and 1691 01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:37.390 it's popping up on my feed. And, and she goes, yes, 1692 01:22:37.670 --> 01:22:40.909 marigolds are very significant. I buy them all the time 1693 01:22:41.069 --> 01:22:43.130 and it has something to do with whatever her. 1694 01:22:44.729 --> 01:22:46.609 And I was like, I knew it. I kept seeing. 1695 01:22:46.449 --> 01:22:48.310 Marigolds and I was like, I don't, it might be 1696 01:22:48.350 --> 01:22:52.279 Derek kind of, but I was like, it's also something else. 1697 01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:54.600 Like it means something else to somebody else. And I 1698 01:22:54.619 --> 01:22:57.460 don't know how I knew that. to ask that particular woman, 1699 01:22:57.479 --> 01:22:59.699 but I just want to say right now I'm feeling 1700 01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:01.020 I have to talk about the marigolds. 1701 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:02.560 And so it's that. 1702 01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:05.319 It's like you said, you see, you just see it, 1703 01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.039 the four balloons or whatever, and you're like, I just 1704 01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.239 know that that means something. And so I think we 1705 01:23:11.260 --> 01:23:13.390 can encourage our listeners to like, even though it feels 1706 01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:17.869 so weird and random, don't dismiss it because I just 1707 01:23:17.949 --> 01:23:20.289 knew there's something significant about this. 1708 01:23:21.050 --> 01:23:24.109 Absolutely. And real quick, like that's one of the first 1709 01:23:25.189 --> 01:23:28.609 ways it started happening for me. I noticed the spirit animals. 1710 01:23:28.670 --> 01:23:31.270 So for me, it was the spirit animals. And I 1711 01:23:31.329 --> 01:23:36.000 started looking them up. Like the first thing was the hummingbird, right? 1712 01:23:36.020 --> 01:23:41.880 The hummingbird would appear at the most crazy times. And like, 1713 01:23:41.899 --> 01:23:43.319 for example, I used to run a lot, right? And 1714 01:23:43.340 --> 01:23:45.399 I'd be running up like a hill or a mountain 1715 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.600 and right as I'm like, oh, I'm going to stop, 1716 01:23:48.649 --> 01:23:50.649 a little hummingbird would come, like, don't give up, and 1717 01:23:50.689 --> 01:23:53.149 I'd be like, okay, and I'd keep pushing, and I'd 1718 01:23:53.170 --> 01:23:55.449 get to the top of the mountain, and the hummingbird 1719 01:23:55.489 --> 01:23:57.770 would come again, great job, and then, boom, take off, 1720 01:23:57.829 --> 01:24:00.060 you know, and I'd be like, and I looked it up, 1721 01:24:00.109 --> 01:24:04.340 and it said, like, for, you know, like, you know, 1722 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:07.880 Aztecs is technically not the right, like, originally, that word 1723 01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:11.920 Aztec wasn't the civilization, right, it was the

Mexica, right, 1724 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:15.319 that's where Mexico comes from, Mexica, right, but Since, you know, 1725 01:24:15.340 --> 01:24:20.630 everybody knows it as the Aztecs, right? So I looked 1726 01:24:20.649 --> 01:24:23.590 it up and the hummingbird was like the spirits of 1727 01:24:23.689 --> 01:24:28.409 warriors that had passed on would come back as hummingbirds. 1728 01:24:28.470 --> 01:24:30.609 And I was doing like warrior stuff, right? Like running 1729 01:24:30.689 --> 01:24:32.850 up mouth or this and that. And they would come 1730 01:24:32.949 --> 01:24:34.710 and I felt like, oh, wow, these are like my 1731 01:24:34.850 --> 01:24:38.329 ancestors encouraging me or something. So that was how the 1732 01:24:38.390 --> 01:24:42.539 first spirit animal. And then every time an animal appeared... 1733 01:24:42.869 --> 01:24:45.189 Like bobcats, right? When they appeared, then I looked it 1734 01:24:45.250 --> 01:24:47.850 up and it was like, oh, that's the shaman's totem, right? 1735 01:24:47.970 --> 01:24:51.170 The bobcat and different things. So then I started, that's 1736 01:24:51.210 --> 01:24:55.039 how the first signs before angel numbers, right? Oh, three, three, 1737 01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:56.800 three and two. And that's how it would be too. 1738 01:24:56.859 --> 01:24:59.479 Then the angel numbers, right? Like I'd be driving and 1739 01:24:59.500 --> 01:25:01.439 there'll be a car with like, and it'd be the weird, 1740 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:04.079 it wouldn't even be the normal. It'd be like a 1741 01:25:04.140 --> 01:25:07.609 car to my left would say like three, two, seven, right? 1742 01:25:08.140 --> 01:25:10.500 And then a car to my right would say 327. 1743 01:25:10.500 --> 01:25:11.880 And then there would be a car in front of me, 1744 01:25:11.899 --> 01:25:13.699 and it would move. And then the license plate on 1745 01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:16.220 that one would say 327. And I'm like, what in 1746 01:25:16.260 --> 01:25:18.260 the world? So then I'd look up 327, like, what 1747 01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:22.130 in the world? So it wasn't even just the normal, like, 1748 01:25:22.289 --> 01:25:24.850 angel numbers, right? But first it was, like, the spirit animals, 1749 01:25:25.350 --> 01:25:27.449 then the angel numbers. So just to share that with 1750 01:25:27.510 --> 01:25:30.590 anybody watching, like, you know, I've paid attention to all 1751 01:25:30.609 --> 01:25:34.760 the things over the years, right? And maybe all those 1752 01:25:34.819 --> 01:25:38.939 things are kind of precursors to you developing your psychic abilities, right? 1753 01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:43.039 They're trying to show you, right? So, like, it's almost 1754 01:25:43.060 --> 01:25:45.880 like training wheels, right? The little training wheels are, are 1755 01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:48.619 you going to even listen to this? Because then when 1756 01:25:48.659 --> 01:25:51.250 you get images for people, that's kind of how it comes. Like, 1757 01:25:51.289 --> 01:25:54.710 you saw marigolds. Well, what if in your real life, right, 1758 01:25:54.729 --> 01:25:57.710 you're seeing marigolds everywhere. Would you take the time to 1759 01:25:57.789 --> 01:25:59.630 look at a book and be like, oh, I wonder what, 1760 01:25:59.909 --> 01:26:02.659 is there a spiritual meaning for it? miracles what what 1761 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:04.920 are miracles trying that's how right i would look at 1762 01:26:04.939 --> 01:26:07.729 the spirit animal like oh wow what are hummingbirds oh 1763 01:26:07.770 --> 01:26:11.710 what's a grasshopper oh grasshoppers only leap forward maybe they're 1764 01:26:11.750 --> 01:26:14.229 asking me to take a leap of faith right different 1765 01:26:14.250 --> 01:26:17.390 little things like that they're trying to communicate so that 1766 01:26:17.409 --> 01:26:21.939 way when your psychic abilities uh become more in tune 1767 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:26.239 you can remember all those oh i'm seeing you know 1768 01:26:26.260 --> 01:26:28.220 i'm seeing a bear for you does this mean this 1769 01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:31.590 or you know like there's ways they communicate through symbolism, right? 1770 01:26:31.609 --> 01:26:35.729 That's the universal language because we don't all speak like, right, 1771 01:26:35.770 --> 01:26:39.420 the same language, but we do speak the same, like, 1772 01:26:39.739 --> 01:26:43.079 that's why symbols are so important, especially with mediumship, right? Like, 1773 01:26:43.699 --> 01:26:46.600 we could see things and they mean other things or, 1774 01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:48.779 you know, they mean a message for someone. It's faster, right? 1775 01:26:48.819 --> 01:26:50.100 It's like, like, yeah. 1776 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:52.010 It's our spirit dictionary, right? 1777 01:26:52.029 --> 01:26:54.970 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Our spirit, yeah, exactly. Our spirit dictionary. Every, 1778 01:26:55.630 --> 01:26:58.069 you know, and that's how, you know, and imagine just 1779 01:26:58.109 --> 01:27:02.300 with that word, oh, do marigolds mean anything to you? 1780 01:27:02.340 --> 01:27:05.939 And that person has a whole story about, well, it 1781 01:27:05.979 --> 01:27:08.319 was when I met my first love and the marigold 1782 01:27:08.409 --> 01:27:10.310 in there. And it was a, you know, a bright 1783 01:27:10.369 --> 01:27:13.510 sunny day. And there's a whole story out for one picture, 1784 01:27:13.529 --> 01:27:15.649 a picture worth a thousand words, right? So that's why, 1785 01:27:16.430 --> 01:27:18.750 you know, I would advise anyone that is interested in 1786 01:27:18.789 --> 01:27:21.989 mediumship or anything, start learning the symbols, right? That are 1787 01:27:22.029 --> 01:27:23.850 all around us, all that good stuff. 1788 01:27:24.170 --> 01:27:25.710 Yeah, that's great. Yeah. 1789 01:27:25.770 --> 01:27:29.279 And it's just like our ancestors, my grandparents, family, my 1790 01:27:29.460 --> 01:27:32.840

grandmother's family is from Spain, so our ancestors speak Spanish, 1791 01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:35.539 but a medium can still, they'll be like, well, can 1792 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:39.180 my grandmother give you messages if she didn't speak English? Yes, 1793 01:27:39.819 --> 01:27:42.739 because she's showing me symbols she's not showing me. Sometimes 1794 01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:45.119 I'll hear a Spanish word if I, that I, because 1795 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:48.350 maybe I know, because I might know it and sometimes. 1796 01:27:48.090 --> 01:27:48.640 I don't know it. 1797 01:27:48.710 --> 01:27:51.630 But for the most part, any, you can, we can 1798 01:27:51.670 --> 01:27:54.489 communicate with any soul on the other side if they 1799 01:27:54.529 --> 01:27:58.060 spoke Greek or if they spoke Spanish or any language 1800 01:27:58.100 --> 01:27:59.819 in the world because they're not speaking to us in 1801 01:27:59.899 --> 01:28:02.989 words they might give me their name and I'll hear 1802 01:28:03.029 --> 01:28:05.130 a name that's like it and I might not know 1803 01:28:05.170 --> 01:28:08.529 their name but that's why our spirit dictionary is personal 1804 01:28:08.569 --> 01:28:09.010 to us. 1805 01:28:09.590 --> 01:28:12.729 Yeah no but even that like for example I've woken 1806 01:28:12.829 --> 01:28:18.069 up now speaking different languages right and even once not 1807 01:28:18.229 --> 01:28:20.979 once but I'll write it down and you could sound 1808 01:28:21.020 --> 01:28:25.159 it out and now see we live in this special 1809 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:28.979 time where we have the technology and I looked it 1810 01:28:29.060 --> 01:28:31.640 up and I saw I was speaking like this language 1811 01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.590 from Nigeria I've never been to Nigeria I don't have 1812 01:28:34.989 --> 01:28:39.010 Nigerian cousin or uncles or aunts or nothing but it 1813 01:28:39.069 --> 01:28:41.109 was like wow and it was accurate right and I 1814 01:28:41.149 --> 01:28:43.350 was like that is so crazy and then you know 1815 01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:46.500 I've it's that because you know that's a good time 1816 01:28:46.539 --> 01:28:49.399 when you just wake up your mind's in between you 1817 01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.539 don't have because I learned that right like when I 1818 01:28:51.579 --> 01:28:55.119 was writing songs, there was one time when I had 1819 01:28:55.180 --> 01:28:57.779 writer's block, and I got self-conscious, because at that point, 1820 01:28:57.800 --> 01:28:59.239 you know, I was young, I was like, I thought 1821 01:28:59.260 --> 01:29:01.579 I was like, oh man, I'm like, I'm gonna be 1822 01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.260 the best writer, and they were like, man, I'm good 1823 01:29:03.300 --> 01:29:04.819 at this, right, and then all of a sudden, I 1824 01:29:04.859 --> 01:29:07.270 had writer's block, and I was like, I can't write nothing, 1825 01:29:07.289 --> 01:29:10.670 so I went to Barnes and Nobles, and almost magically, 1826 01:29:10.750 --> 01:29:13.590 there was in the clearance section, uh, Oh, do you 1827 01:29:13.609 --> 01:29:15.989 have writer's block? Here's this book on clearing. 1828 01:29:16.869 --> 01:29:17.399 Oh, wow. 1829 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.180 Yeah. And then I bought the book and then I 1830 01:29:20.220 --> 01:29:22.760 didn't even read 10 pages and I got my answer. 1831 01:29:22.779 --> 01:29:25.560 It was like, oh, if you have writer's block, try 1832 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:27.760 writing right when you wake up or right before you 1833 01:29:27.819 --> 01:29:30.729 fall asleep because you're in between. And that matters with 1834 01:29:30.789 --> 01:29:33.770 psychics too, right? Like when you're learning and you're still 1835 01:29:33.829 --> 01:29:36.810 too critical, like, oh, no, this and that, right? So 1836 01:29:36.930 --> 01:29:39.680 in between when you just wake up or stuff like that. 1837 01:29:40.810 --> 01:29:43.029 So the same, right? Like I used to write like 1838 01:29:43.090 --> 01:29:45.579 as soon as I woke up, like still where my 1839 01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:48.380 brain's not overly like, no, I can't write this. No, 1840 01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:52.340 I can't write that. Right. The same with the psychic thing. Right. 1841 01:29:52.380 --> 01:29:55.189 I would wake up and be speaking this. I don't 1842 01:29:55.210 --> 01:29:57.649 know what I'm saying, but let me get to my computer. 1843 01:29:57.670 --> 01:30:01.210 Let me type it out. And then later on, you know, Google, right? 1844 01:30:01.229 --> 01:30:04.800 You Google like you put it in. And it's like, oh, 1845 01:30:04.819 --> 01:30:07.529 this means that. And you're like, what? Like, how does 1846 01:30:07.609 --> 01:30:13.229 Gabri Gubli? That's an actual language. Like, this is crazy. Like, 1847 01:30:13.270 --> 01:30:16.729 how is this an actual language? Right. You know, I've 1848 01:30:16.770 --> 01:30:21.340 woken up speaking like a language from Ecuador, you know, Nigeria, 1849 01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:23.840 different like, you know, the Ecuador is like, you know, 1850 01:30:23.859 --> 01:30:30.640 the equator, right? The Nigeria, Africa, like there's all these things. Right. And. Yeah, 1851 01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:32.380 it's just being open to it. But we have the 1852 01:30:32.420 --> 01:30:35.390 technology now. So this is... And that's one thing, right? 1853 01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:38.069 When I told you about the book I wrote, I 1854 01:30:38.189 --> 01:30:41.890 knew why it happened now. Because that's kind of what 1855 01:30:41.949 --> 01:30:45.029 I did in the book. I show... When I wrote 1856 01:30:45.069 --> 01:30:46.970 the book, I had a dream. I was with this 1857 01:30:47.189 --> 01:30:49.140 ancient man. But we were like... It looked like we 1858 01:30:49.149 --> 01:30:51.159 were in the Kaushik Records, right? We were in the 1859 01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:55.119 Kaushik Records. And there were hundreds of books all over 1860

01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:58.109 the floor... They were all open and we were like 1861 01:30:58.189 --> 01:31:02.800 putting all the pieces together. So when I started being 1862 01:31:02.859 --> 01:31:05.899 shown everything, I was able to get all the information 1863 01:31:05.979 --> 01:31:09.279 and show the proof. If this had happened 20 years ago, 1864 01:31:09.420 --> 01:31:11.500 I wouldn't have been able to put this book together. 1865 01:31:11.819 --> 01:31:15.350 I would have to have encyclopedias and find the right book, 1866 01:31:15.649 --> 01:31:17.369 find the right book. But now it was here on 1867 01:31:17.409 --> 01:31:21.109 my fingertips with the Internet. And that's what this ancient 1868 01:31:21.149 --> 01:31:24.329 man was showing me. So I was meant to write 1869 01:31:24.369 --> 01:31:28.250 this book now. Everything was so perfectly timed that I 1870 01:31:28.289 --> 01:31:30.930 could show, look at ancient Greece. Look at here in 1871 01:31:30.970 --> 01:31:35.289 the ancient Aztec civilization. Look at here, you know, outer space. 1872 01:31:35.350 --> 01:31:37.210 Look at here. So I was able to show all 1873 01:31:37.270 --> 01:31:40.350 these pieces together. And I had already dreamed it before 1874 01:31:40.369 --> 01:31:42.439 it happened. And once I started putting the book together, 1875 01:31:42.449 --> 01:31:44.920 I was like, oh, wow. Like it had to happen. 1876 01:31:44.939 --> 01:31:47.800 Not so the same, right? Everything, you know, rather than 1877 01:31:47.979 --> 01:31:51.460 using the internet for whatever stuff, we live in the 1878 01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:55.149 time now. where everything can be revealed, right? We could 1879 01:31:55.189 --> 01:32:00.569 see how true things are, how magic is real. I know. 1880 01:32:01.289 --> 01:32:05.279 I just saw this video on Instagram or something, and 1881 01:32:05.300 --> 01:32:07.279 it was a little kid talking about his past life. 1882 01:32:07.619 --> 01:32:11.520 The mom was videoing it. And he was like, yeah, yeah. Mommy, 1883 01:32:11.539 --> 01:32:15.579 before I came here, I drowned because I dropped my 1884 01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:18.350 camera in the water. And she's like, really? Tell me 1885 01:32:18.390 --> 01:32:20.310 more about that. And he's like, and then I woke 1886 01:32:20.369 --> 01:32:22.560 up and I was this, who I am now. And 1887 01:32:22.619 --> 01:32:25.520 one of the people commented, oh, there was actually this 1888 01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:28.119 young person. I mean, who knows if it was them 1889 01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:30.199 because it could have taken place anywhere in the world. 1890 01:32:30.539 --> 01:32:33.279 But they just Googled who died, like dropping their camera 1891 01:32:33.300 --> 01:32:33.840 in the water. 1892 01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.840 And it was. And actually, I think I know who 1893 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:37.159 it was. 1894 01:32:38.020 --> 01:32:42.350 And so, yeah, they were able to say there really 1895 01:32:42.390 --> 01:32:44.930 was this person who dropped the camera in the water 1896 01:32:44.989 --> 01:32:46.970 and drowned. And that was about like seven years ago. 1897 01:32:46.989 --> 01:32:49.289 And this kid's now five. Not that that matters because 1898 01:32:49.310 --> 01:32:53.180 you could be reincarnated from forever ago. But it just 1899 01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:53.899 kind of all checked. 1900 01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:56.100 His details all kind of checked out. We wouldn't be 1901 01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.279 able to do, how would we know that if we didn't. 1902 01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:00.500 Have the internet? Exactly. And that happened to me a 1903 01:33:00.539 --> 01:33:03.420 few months ago. No, like maybe a month ago, this 1904 01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:07.239 woman came to me in my dream. And I was like, 1905 01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:09.560 you know, she was the same. She gave me a 1906 01:33:09.619 --> 01:33:13.659 word that's only known to people from that region. And 1907 01:33:14.550 --> 01:33:16.550 so it's funny I brought up Ecuador because that's where 1908 01:33:16.590 --> 01:33:20.289 she was from. And she was an activist and she 1909 01:33:20.310 --> 01:33:23.630 had been murdered. And it made sense because that weekend 1910 01:33:23.670 --> 01:33:27.399 was like the 10-year anniversary of when I had gone 1911 01:33:27.460 --> 01:33:30.779 and did activism, right? Like 10 years before. But, you know, 1912 01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:32.680 I wasn't able to go because, you know, it was 1913 01:33:32.739 --> 01:33:36.399 up north. And so it was funny, I guess, as 1914 01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:39.800 a spirit activist, she came to someone in this life 1915 01:33:39.850 --> 01:33:43.229 that did activism, right? And she was murdered the day 1916 01:33:43.270 --> 01:33:45.350 before my birthday. So I was like, wow, there was 1917 01:33:45.369 --> 01:33:47.989 a lot of little synchronicities there. And they said that 1918 01:33:48.029 --> 01:33:51.300 she had hung herself. But then they saw the... you know, 1919 01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:54.420 the hit to the head and all that, but she 1920 01:33:54.479 --> 01:33:57.180 came to me, and yeah, I was able to look 1921 01:33:57.220 --> 01:33:58.920 it up, right, when I typed in, what is this 1922 01:33:58.979 --> 01:34:02.319 word that she's telling me, and it popped up, and oh, 1923 01:34:02.390 --> 01:34:05.689 in the dream too, I was like, she told me something, 1924 01:34:05.750 --> 01:34:07.569 I was like, where is that from, and then in 1925 01:34:07.609 --> 01:34:11.529 my head, in the dream, I heard Ecuador, right, Ecuador, right, 1926 01:34:11.569 --> 01:34:14.829 and then She goes, oh, Ecuador. And I go, I 1927 01:34:14.850 --> 01:34:17.270 knew it. I heard it before you told me. Even 1928 01:34:17.310 --> 01:34:20.340 in the dream, right? And so that, right? I was 1929 01:34:20.420 --> 01:34:22.800 able to go right away when I woke up and 1930 01:34:22.819 --> 01:34:26.439 look

up. And there she was, right? Yeah. And she 1931 01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:32.529 wasn't even from there. She was a Polish woman that, yeah, 1932 01:34:32.550 --> 01:34:34.210 she was a Polish woman that was over there. She 1933 01:34:34.229 --> 01:34:36.970 was big on activism, giving, like, the land back to 1934 01:34:36.989 --> 01:34:41.609 the indigenous people, trying to save the turtles. all the fighting, 1935 01:34:41.649 --> 01:34:44.390 the corruption that the government was doing there. Right. So, 1936 01:34:45.050 --> 01:34:46.970 and it was weird. Like even after that, she gave 1937 01:34:46.989 --> 01:34:48.729 me like little, cause I don't know what, I had 1938 01:34:48.770 --> 01:34:52.029 these pair of pants that I went to put on 1939 01:34:52.069 --> 01:34:53.850 like a couple of days later. And they even said 1940 01:34:53.909 --> 01:34:56.649 like made in Poland. So like, wow. 1941 01:34:56.729 --> 01:34:58.670 Like double. Yeah. It's more science. 1942 01:34:58.909 --> 01:35:00.829 Like she was just trying to like, Hey, don't forget 1943 01:35:00.890 --> 01:35:02.329 about me. And I think I'm, then I made a 1944 01:35:02.369 --> 01:35:05.090 video about, about her. Like, Oh, this woman came to me. 1945 01:35:05.369 --> 01:35:10.149 I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it. Um, Yeah, 1946 01:35:10.189 --> 01:35:11.649 I was like, I don't know what I'm supposed to 1947 01:35:11.710 --> 01:35:13.500 do about it. I'm sure it'll be revealed. I feel 1948 01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:15.699 like it was already revealed. I don't want to say 1949 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:16.039 it on. 1950 01:35:16.500 --> 01:35:17.819 Yeah. 1951 01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:21.439 Because it was kind of like an interesting thing. But yeah, 1952 01:35:21.729 --> 01:35:23.329 you know, I could tell you after some, but. 1953 01:35:23.470 --> 01:35:26.590 Yeah, there are always reasons. Like there's some kind of 1954 01:35:26.609 --> 01:35:26.770 a reason. 1955 01:35:27.069 --> 01:35:27.350 But yeah. 1956 01:35:29.020 --> 01:35:30.699 Well, you and I are going to hang out more 1957 01:35:30.739 --> 01:35:33.479 so we can continue talking for 10 hours every time 1958 01:35:33.510 --> 01:35:35.510 we see each other. But thank you so much for 1959 01:35:35.529 --> 01:35:37.970 being here on Magic is Real. I want everyone to, 1960 01:35:38.050 --> 01:35:40.329 if you're not subscribed to In a Good Way podcast, 1961 01:35:40.390 --> 01:35:43.430 get on it. I'll have a link below. And I 1962 01:35:43.449 --> 01:35:45.189 just want to thank you, Omar, for coming on to 1963 01:35:45.250 --> 01:35:48.609 Magic is Real. It's so fun when two mediums and 1964 01:35:48.649 --> 01:35:53.060 podcast hosts get together and that we do the same stuff. 1965 01:35:53.100 --> 01:35:56.800 And I know we were meant to meet also, which again, totally, 1966 01:35:57.659 --> 01:36:00.159 totally meant to happen. So thank you so much for 1967 01:36:00.180 --> 01:36:04.520 being on the podcast, Omar Angulo. 1968 01:36:04.619 --> 01:36:07.010 Thank you, Shannon. It's an honor. And yeah, thank you 1969 01:36:07.029 --> 01:36:08.310 for having me. Thank you so much.