บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Let's Talk About Pools Live Podcast 10/27/2026

attention to pool, uh you know, to protective equipment. 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:03.439 And since we're working with a bunch of high-level chemicals, it really is an important aspect. 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:07.120 Yay, thank you for teaching that, by the way. 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.439 Safety, safety, safety, guys. 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:11.920 But this is where Rob was. 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:19.439 He, I mean, I had three guest co-anchors since I last he last co-anchored with me, so I've been missing him. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:27.680 We had uh three wonderful guest co-anchors that filled in each uh week for the live podcast, had a little bit of fun with that. 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:31.279 They had fun without committing to something long term, right? 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:36.639 And I learned how to share pictures, which is why I wanted to share the pictures from Saint Lucia. 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:43.680 And I I know you saw one of the live podcasts, podcast art where it like showed a picture of like the St. 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:54.959 Lucia with the mountains, and it's it was you with your back, and this was AI generated, of course, and it said Rob on the back of the shirt in the picture. 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:04.160 It was funny, so I kept that in there because it was like this is why Sarah the Pool Girl was the first guest co-anchor because you were gone to St. 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:04.639 Lucia. 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:06.639 So um fair enough. 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:18.639 Thank you for my three guest co-anchors, which was Sarah the Pool Girl, uh, and then we had uh Jeff David with uh leak subsurface uh locators. 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:19.839 I believe I got the name right. 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:28.399 He does the leak business academy, and you can check out his full uh episode for the podcast, up where you find your podcast. 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:29.920 He was a guest anchor. 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:37.759 There's an expanded episode with him, and then the last one was with Adam Lawrence from uh he's with Pal Lighting now. 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:48.879 So it was all about the strip lighting and the domes and the that light up and also like the uh oh, what do you call those uh scoop scuffers? 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.759 Scuppers with the lighting, the water coming out. 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:52.639 So that was really cool. 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:53.439 That was different. 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.360 So welcome back, Rob. 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:56.240 I know we did this. 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:56.720 Thank you. 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:57.279 I appreciate it. 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.399 It's good to be back wearing my podcast shirt. 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:08.319 Yeah, you're gonna wear that the international show, and we're gonna walk around or something and be podcast people for a day or our part of a day. 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.959 You look good in that bring it down with me for sure. 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:18.240 Uh now the thing is at the Western show, I'm gonna be doing a lot of volunteering, so I don't know about availability, but yeah, we'll figure something out. 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.279 Yeah, I'm so glad to have you back. 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.240 I'm glad you got some classes in and enjoyed St. 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.279 Lucia, and then you got back and you had closed pools. 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:28.800 So, welcome, welcome back. 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.959 I'm glad that you're intact and you're back to co-anchor with me. 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:34.879 Thank you, I appreciate it. 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.600 And oh, it's nice to hear your voice. 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:42.879 Oh, so many people say that, and I don't know if I really believe that. 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.759 My voice is so loud and carries, and it's sarcasm. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.439 Yes, don't no, I was actually being truthful here. 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:59.199 Yeah, I wanted to say hi to Elam Snyder from Texas and Day by the pool. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.839 Not Debbie, Day by the Pool. 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:02.879 I know this one now. 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:03.759 Hi, Day. 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:04.720 How are you? 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.439 She's up for uh Pool Nation, uh, Pool Girl of the Year, Pool Gal of the Years. 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:26.079 Now's uh closed out for voting, so we're all waiting is closed 18th for the awards to see if you get trainer of the year and that would be awesome. 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:28.480 See if you get Trailblazer of the Year. 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:32.559 See if uh Day gets full gal of the year. 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:34.399 Uh some really awesome people. 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:36.720 I'm I'm hoping and praying for. 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.480 So that's that's good. 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:40.720 Uh so you know, that's over. 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:41.360 International. 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.919 Let's talk about shows coming up really quick. 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:49.279 So we got one like what two and a half weeks away or so, three weeks, something like that. 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:51.919 It's the yeah, like next week. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:58.559 I'm taking off to go down to Nashville or Nashville to uh New Orleans um for that show. 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:02.639 That's the one that you're talking about, and hopefully we'll be walking away with some trophies. 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:12.159 Um you know, like I keep remembering uh your story about trying to fly home with that monster of a trophy when you won uh trainer of the year. 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:19.679 Went in the check bag, went in the check bag and prayed that they didn't just toss it, and I packed it really well. 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:27.039 So when they tossed it, maybe it wouldn't you know break into two pieces or something like that, and it made it back, so we're good. 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.399 Yeah, as as it should, it should be on a shelf.

00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:35.039 Uh oh, it's so after that there, it's right up there after that. 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.320 We have the Canadian pool show, which not a lot of people know about. 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:43.200 It's a pretty good size trophy that Pool Nation does, guys. 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.960 This is my 2024 in Dallas trainer of the year. 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:49.759 This is what I want to see Rob walk away with. 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.120 So you you could put some beer in it or something and drink. 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:54.399 Yeah, it would have to be beer. 00:09:55.679 --> 00:10:00.720 Yeah, no, I'm not a champagne kind of guy, but yes, it's an awesome, awesome event. 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:08.720 I can't wait, but I'm not revealing my dress color until like probably about the week before the international show. 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.399 I'll post my my nail color, and that's my dress color. 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:13.919 So everybody's gotta wait. 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:16.080 Nobody knows what color I'm wearing. 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:23.279 So I've been planning this dress and this like for Full Nation since like July. 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:27.360 I found the dress and I actually got it for$15. 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:28.799 I'm so frugal. 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:30.559 And then I found the shoes. 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:35.120 We were thrifting all summer, so I was so excited when I found this dress. 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:36.240 It's so unique. 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:40.399 I and it's something different than what I've worn color-wise before. 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:41.600 I'll give that hint. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:46.960 So, but I can't ever beat John's wife, John Flawless from Pool Nation. 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:55.120 His wife has the best, biggest dress, and she plans it for a while, and she hits home every year with it. 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.360 So I know it's not pool related, but we have to have a little fun in our industry, right? 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:03.519 Yeah, well, I mean, it's a gala event, a gala dinner, whatever you want to call it. 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:08.559 So, yeah, why not uh why not uh dress up a little bit, right? 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:13.200 I did you hear where the after party is gonna be after the awards are done? 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.480 They announced uh it's gonna be at Mardi Gras World. 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:18.720 I've never heard of it. 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:23.519 It's what's Mardi Gras awesome venue in New Orleans. 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:24.080 I don't know. 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:25.519 So they're gonna have a jazz band. 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:26.480 I'm excited about that. 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.080 I like jazz bands, that's cool. 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:38.879 And then okay, one of the live podcasts they were talking about maybe something, and I was trying to figure it out wrestling baby crocodiles or something. 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:49.519 And when I told

my husband Ben about that, he's like, Oh my god, with people in tuxes or suits and dressed up in their dresses, wrestling baby crocodiles. 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:50.879 That'll be interesting. 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.759 But I don't know if they're doing that for sure. 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:56.720 That was something that they mentioned when I listened to the live. 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:58.559 So I it sounds exciting. 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.519 So I can't wait to be there and see everybody and get dressed up for that one night and everything. 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:04.480 You'll be there, Rob. 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:05.759 We're gonna hang out. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:10.320 Well, the only crocodile I'm interested in seeing is gonna be bread and deep fried. 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:14.960 So there's some good food in New Orleans, would you? 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.080 Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to the Cajun experience. 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:29.679 The International Pool Spa Deck Patio Expo in New Orleans, uh technically starts the 15th if you're taking any pre-conference courses. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:39.440 So pre-conference is 15th, 16th, and then 17th, 18th, 19th is the trade show and regular classes. 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.960 So I'm teaching, I'm teaching the OSHA. 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.120 I'm not even gonna call it that right now. 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:49.759 Let's call it the Pool Pro Safety Boot Camp. 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.240 I wish I could just call it that. 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:55.840 And also known as the OSHA 10 in general industry for pool pros. 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.720 It's a pool pro safety boot camp. 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.879 It's workplace health and safety training. 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:02.639 I hope to see some of you in there. 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.080 We should really be filling that room up. 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:05.360 Don't you agree, Rob? 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:06.480 Absolutely. 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:11.840 Now, I mean, you know, like with going to this alternate name, are people gonna be walking away with an OSHA 10 certificate? 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:13.840 Or is it they're gonna walk away? 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:16.879 Yeah, they're gonna walk away with their OSHA 10 completion card. 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:24.399 Um, I have to turn everything in and then it gets mailed to them because it's an official like hard plastic card from uh National OSHA. 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:29.519 So it's not some piece of paper or anything else. 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:40.080 They'll get a certificate of attendance for being there, but the uh OSHA 10 completion card is given um after I get everything turned into OSHA. 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:45.039 So, but it you don't need to be scared of it, and we should really see this room filled up. 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:51.120 It shouldn't be just eight people in this room, it should be entire teams that are signing up their people. 00:13:51.279 --> 00:14:07.360 You you there's some the same classes that are taught every year, and then this is one that's not offered every year, so it's$549 and it's a day and a half class, it's 11 hours of content, so it's one of the cheaper classes, it's not over a thousand bucks or anything like that. 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:17.039 So it makes it a little more feasible to sign up for a pre-conference class and do something different and make sure that we don't have a reason for OSHA to come out. 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:27.200 Like if there is a complaint and they come out and do an inspection, that you have your written has com program, that you have your SDS sheets, that you have your personal protective equipment you're supposed to have. 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:33.360 And for certain ones, there's more paperwork and medical evaluations and different things that you have to do. 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:43.519 And a lot of pool companies, when they have that complaint inspection, they get written up across the board on all these things that are really the hazardous materials side. 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:50.399 There's a whole three-hour chunk of that class that really covers our chemical safety, our personal protective equipment. 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:59.200 But we also have like electrical safety for an hour, confined spaces, acid washing in those in a confined space, and what to do, and all that good stuff. 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:07.840 So it's it's really that that safety class that you know you might get bits and pieces along the way at conferences, it's putting it all together into one class. 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:08.720 Right. 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:22.080 So I would really like to see more people register, please, because we really should have more people in that class, because safety should be one of those number one things, and there's not a lot of training in our industry. 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:28.080 And it doesn't matter if you're a one-polar or if you have like 20 pool tets, they should all be trained. 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:29.919 And this is the minimal training class. 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.919 The OSHA 10 is meant for everybody. 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:38.799 There's an OSHA 30, which is 30 hours, which is meant for supervisors, and I'm not trying to push 30 at the 30-hour course. 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:42.480 I just want to try to push the 10-hour course, which is the shortest we can go. 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:55.279 So if you are interested in that class at pre-conference and you're listening in anybody on the live podcast, all you have to do is go to the International Pool and Spa Deck Patio show and you go under education tab. 00:15:55.519 --> 00:16:06.879 And in the drop down, there's a specialty education uh that you click on in that drop down, and then on that page, that's where you're gonna find me with the NPC startup technician course and all that good stuff. 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:13.360 But go over to the Ocean and General

Industry for Pool Pros and click on that one though, not the other ones. 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:14.720 You've taken the other ones. 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.799 Take something you haven't taken before. 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.879 And I'm passionate about safety, guys, for our industry. 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:26.399 I want to be uh, you know, cognizant of not going way out there either. 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:33.279 I want to try to get us to have some safety without going way out there with wearing full hazmat suits and stuff like that. 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.519 I'm not that going way out there with it. 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:40.960 So I want people to know that it's not a class just about paperwork and boring. 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:46.000 We're gonna have a lot of good pictures of scenarios that we don't want to see happen. 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.320 Videos, pictures from our industry. 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:54.720 Well, I mean, every responsible company should be interested in elevating their safety level. 00:16:54.799 --> 00:17:00.399 It's it's you know, I would shake my head if the company says, Ah, well, you know, not we're not really interested in being safe. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.480 It's like, dude, you're in the wrong industry. 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:08.640 There's way too many things out in our stuff that we handle on a daily basis that could kill us or hurt us. 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:10.640 You know, like safety is paramount. 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:13.920 Yep, the chemicals, improper handling and storage. 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:24.960 Uh uh, and and a lot of that's covered by your SDS sheets, certain sections of it, reading labels, what PPE is going to be told to you on those things, what to wear. 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:40.160 Um, with electrical safety is a biggie, making sure you're using a lockout tag out device and you're also using your voltage meter or whatever you want to call it to uh verify you shut off the the right breaker before you go start working on something and electrocute yourself. 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:49.680 And you know, I had three in three different instances either teaching OSHA or just hearing something happen, three different parts of the country, Rob. 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:56.160 There was a gentleman that took my class way back in Atlantic City when you and I like first met in Atlantic City. 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:57.839 Remember, I was teaching the OSHA class. 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:05.599 There had 17 people, and one person that class um had OSHA visit them and had a 17, like a$17,000 fine. 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:18.079 And it had to do with a lot of the chemical safety stuff that they were lacking, and so that's a lot of money just to pay because you don't want to take a class to learn about what you need to do if they do come out. 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:30.160 The other one was last year when I was at the Southwest Pool Spa shows of a gentleman in my class, um I don't name names, he came

up to me when everybody was gone, and it was more on the electrical safety side now. 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:39.680 He said, I really wish I knew more about electrical safety because I lost an employee and it was really hard to lose that employee because he'd been with me for a while due to electrication. 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:46.799 And then we had a gentleman in California that had thrown two chemicals into a skimmer that weren't compatible. 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:52.319 And if we read our STS sheets and our labels, we and train people properly. 00:18:52.400 --> 00:19:06.640 And this was a one-polar, I believe, been in the industry for 15 years or something, died from the chemical cloud that knocked him out, and he kept breathing it, and died from the improper handling of our full chemicals. 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:11.759 And you there's only certain things that should go into a schemer, and we talk about that in this class. 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:20.319 So these are all the kind of things, and the reason why I'm big on safety, I don't want to hear, oh, well, the statistics aren't that high of stuff happening. 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:31.759 It doesn't matter because that family cares that if their their father, their mother, whoever, their brother dies from an incident that could have been prevented on the job, right? 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:42.640 And OSHA will come out because you're required to report a death, a single death, that when it happens during work time from the workplace. 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:46.079 So these are kind of the things that we'll talk about in the class. 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:58.720 So I just wanted to, you know, it's my podcast, so I wanted to talk about that a little bit and bring that safety in again to the podcast here and really get people to understand what is that training about. 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:04.720 And I would really like to see, like, I'd be excited if I had eight people in that room. 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:08.880 But we should have like 20 or 25 in that room. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:13.200 That room should be yeah, it should be sold out for the attendance at these shows. 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.519 That there's no reason why it shouldn't be sold out because safety is important. 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:22.559 I don't know why we get into all these other classes that we do over and over and over. 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:27.519 I understand if you need to do it, but they're a lot of times offered, you know. 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.279 This one is not is being offered at the international show. 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:33.920 So um we should we should see it full. 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:35.839 I uh that's my opinion. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:46.160 Um, anybody that's listening to the live podcast, bring your team, sign them up because it's something that we really need to see more of in our industry, keeping people safe. 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:49.039 We've got to care about the people that are taking care

of the pools. 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:53.039 If we don't do that, how are we gonna keep the pools safe for the people using them? 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:59.039 We've got to care about you guys, not just the people that are going swimming in the pools that you go take care of. 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.160 So and we have awesome pool pros out there. 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:08.480 We just want to make sure everybody is gonna be safe, healthy, and live a long life while doing their job. 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:13.519 Yeah, so um, so brought that up with the international show. 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:14.799 Uh, other shows coming up. 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.240 What uh what else is coming up? 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:20.079 Uh, once we hit you know January, you gotta start thinking about in December, though. 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.240 Well, first week of December, there's the Canadian show. 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.599 When I know nobody's interested in going to the Canadian show, but I'm going. 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:28.640 And I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna be doing my thing. 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:30.799 So, yeah, we have the Canadian show. 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:32.960 It's uh gonna be held in Niagara Falls. 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:38.319 So even if you're just looking for a holiday where the company gets to pay for it, right? 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:44.559 Yeah, uh, so that's the first week of December, and then um I haven't seen when the Atlantic show is. 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:46.880 I think it's third week of January. 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:54.240 Yep, and I think uh the Southwest Pool show might be happening before the Atlantic City show this year. 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:59.759 They moved the Southwest show to January, and I believe it's like the week before the Atlantic City. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.839 City show or something like that. 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.000 So that's coming up. 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.799 I'm teaching CPO at the Southwest Pool and Spa show. 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:12.480 So all my people in the Texas area that are going, sign up for CPO if you need it. 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:13.680 I'm teaching it. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.440 How I talk here is how I teach my class. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.559 I try not to be a boring monotone either. 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:24.960 Um, but then I'm teaching a couple free classes at the Southwest Pool and Spa show. 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:35.119 And then Atlantic City, I'm not teaching, they didn't accept any education this year, but I'm trying to attend and do some education for myself and walk like the best trade show right there. 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:37.680 It's one of the best trade shows. 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.920 Well, I might actually be skipping the Atlantic City one this year. 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:45.920 Uh, it's gonna be my first break from that in probably 10 years now, I think. 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:52.799 Something along that lines, but uh there's plans in the mix for me to be going through the Caribbean again. 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:54.640 So yeah, cool. 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:57.920 Yeah, and I like I like the warm. 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:01.359 I haven't decided if I'm gonna do the Nespa show yet. 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:05.200 Um, that one's the one that I'm not teaching anything at. 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:12.240 So it's like if I go, it's to go maybe for a day or two, and you know, not for a long period of time. 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.839 Like I've been up there before, so it gets so cold up there. 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.559 It's January, and last year there was snow on the ground. 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:20.480 It was really hard for me from Florida. 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:22.079 Yeah, you big girl. 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:31.039 Then February, we've got the uh Western show, the Western Pool Spa Show in uh Long Beach, California. 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:34.240 Never been there, and I'm supposed to be teaching there. 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.119 I'm gonna catch up and see what I am teaching there. 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:42.319 And they talked about us doing a live podcast or something from there, so that would be fun. 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:50.079 And then the the last show of the season is the Florida show, and I'm teaching for the first time at the Florida show, Rob. 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:51.839 Congratulations, nice. 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.279 They finally finally got over their hang ups with you, huh? 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:56.960 My home show, and I'm fine. 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:07.279 They're wonderful people over at FSPA right now, and they saw that the value of what I wanted to teach, and I'm not getting paid for those classes. 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:15.440 A lot of these classes, other than the pre-conference or CPO, the other classes I teach at the show, we don't get paid for, so it's showing up. 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:16.240 You know what? 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:22.319 I mean, I like going to the shows anyway, so if I can contribute while I'm there being a tourist, what the heck? 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.240 Yeah, because you're it's about giving to the industry as well. 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:31.200 You don't just get everything we give, sometimes we give that way, and it helps. 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:37.279 And that's some of the I'm doing a DOT materials of trade class uh at the international show. 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:42.720 So I'm excited about that because I'm debuting that as my first time doing the PowerPoint there. 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:51.440 So uh bear with me because it's a new topic for me to present that's outside of CPO and everything else that I've standardly done. 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.440 So um PowerPoints done, just fine-tuning it. 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.759 That's exactly what you'd be doing, Rob. 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:00.960 You always fine-tune your PowerPoints with everything. 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:02.160 You know what? 00:25:02.240 -->

00:25:11.680 I don't know if I do that because I'm so good at it or whether I suck at it, you know, because no matter how much I seem to fix them, there's still something that I miss, you know. 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:17.680 Uh so like my presentation for uh Long Beach, uh, I am redesigning the whole thing. 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:18.960 I'm starting from scratch. 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:29.759 Uh, I'm doing a flow chart, then I'm gonna adapt my slides to it, and you know, I got a little bit of time, so that's uh that's it's after it's after Christmas and everything. 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.000 You got time, yeah. 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:35.440 All right, so that's all the shows and everything coming up. 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:36.960 So we're getting into show season. 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.640 So I really wanted to talk about that. 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:39.759 I get excited about it. 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:45.759 I get to see it's like a family reunion of the pool industry, so I get really excited about seeing everybody again. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.799 So yeah, can't wait to see all my pool brain folk and everybody else. 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:57.599 So, um let's get into our first topic, unless there's anything else you want to talk about or well. 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:05.519 Actually, when you were talking about reuniting with your people, for everybody who hasn't been to one of these pool shows, you gotta get out there and try it. 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:15.039 I mean, it's a totally, totally different atmosphere, and uh, you know, like people are receptive, everybody's shaking hands and everybody's smiling, and everyone's having a great time. 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.880 So if you've never been to one of these pool shows, find one and go to the damn thing. 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:20.720 It's only a couple of days out of your life. 00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:22.079 You can afford to do that. 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.240 I'm excited about the Western Pool show in Long Beach. 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:41.200 That one I've never been to, and I've never been to California, so and I've never seen the Pacific Ocean, so there's a lot of like cool things going to this one, and I've heard such good things about it that very good for the education. 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:49.759 Educations are like one of the biggest reasons to attend the Western Pool and Spa show at the same time seeing the beach in the Pacific Ocean. 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:50.640 That sounds great. 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:54.240 So I'm glad to be able to go there, and there's a lot of fun stuff. 00:26:54.319 --> 00:27:02.000 They have like a uh band usually on one of the nights, so you know, for like the opening thing or whatever. 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:13.359 So I've seen it, it's just I always go, oh, Florida to California, you know, getting on it on a on a plane, but I'm gonna do it this year. 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.200 That one I'm definitely gonna do. 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.759 It's also the hour uh Uber ride to get to Long Beach from LAX. 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:20.799 Yep. 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:25.680 So it's it's my bucket list to see the Pacific Ocean, go to California. 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.599 All right, so show season. 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:32.960 We talked about we talked about Pool Nation Award stuff, Pool Nation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:33.920 Yeah. 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.359 Um, so let's get into our first topic. 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:38.640 Um, yeah, I know. 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:40.240 Yeah, we're halfway through the podcast. 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:41.200 Let's get into our first topic. 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.240 We're getting into our first topic. 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.279 But we only have two topics that we're gonna talk about here, right? 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:54.799 So um I saw somebody post it's somebody that's actually nominated for Pool Gal the Year, not day, but uh Denise uh Goff. 00:27:55.599 --> 00:28:09.680 And she posted she was feeling disappointed on Facebook, and it was thought of the day, pool service minimum, 15 to 40 minutes for an 11,000 gallon screen and pool, depending on what is needed. 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:16.000 Just watch another pool maintenance company take five and a half minutes to service a pool. 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.200 That is not good. 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.400 I don't understand why people think this is okay. 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:28.000 If you're gonna be in this business, take it seriously and do the job you were hired to do with the contract that you signed. 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:37.279 And I'm gonna tell you, I dropped off flyers for an in-person class locally here to one of our distributors, which I won't name, and it has nothing to do with the distributor. 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:46.960 And down here, they fill up chlorine at whatever distributor they go to, they fill up their yellow jerry jugs over and over, and they they usually have more than one spigot. 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:55.200 And I was there and I stopped and I heard two pool guys talking while they're filling up their chlorine about how many pools they do a day. 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.440 And one guy asked the other guy, and he said he did like 30 pools a day. 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:21.359 You start taking an eight-hour day and dividing that up, it's really not that much time that they're really spending to catch anything, to do the job right, to check LSI, do everything the way they should to buy the book, because that customer is paying a lot of money, and if you're not paying attention to all these things, it really hurts, right? 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:29.599 Well, I mean, for starters, I don't feel that the customers are paying anywhere near enough money, but yeah, I mean they're paying for a service that you know they should be getting. 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.440 Uh, the other thing is you have to remember different

companies do different things. 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:40.960 So some companies might only be going in and doing a quick skim because vacuuming isn't part of their stuff, you know. 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:49.440 Other people other companies might be going in doing a skim, doing a vacuum, doing a water balancing, uh, doing a cell cleaning, a filter cleaning. 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:56.079 So, I mean, you have to look at the differences, you know, in in what you're actually getting your service guy to do. 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.359 Um, like with our company, we strictly do balancing. 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:05.119 Well, and it comes down to are they doing commercial public pools within the route for that day as well? 00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:06.880 Because those are going to take more time. 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:12.799 They should because they gotta pay attention to they're regulated, so they gotta pay attention to certain things. 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:13.599 Yep. 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:22.799 So and and this is also why you know uh programs like skimmer and pool brain, stuff like that, give you guys the option of logging. 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.400 You never played that intro, didn't you? 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:24.960 Did you? 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:25.599 Yeah, you did. 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:26.240 I was distracted. 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:33.359 I paid the up, but we will stop in a minute and listen in to our podcast sponsor in the middle here. 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.400 But go ahead, yeah. 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:44.079 But they they give you the option, you know, like you have to like log in when you get to the site, log out when you get to the site, and submit a picture with it to show that the work was done, right? 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:50.480 And the reason for that is so that people like this, Miss Uh Goth don't get disappointed, right? 00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:55.519 Um, you remember you're paying for the service, you're not paying for the amount of time that they're there. 00:30:55.759 --> 00:31:00.799 Now, there is going to be a certain amount of time associated with providing that kind of service. 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.200 Sometimes it's going to be lighter, sometimes not. 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:10.559 Like, I mean, if you go in on Monday and the pool is pristine, quick surface clean, and you're done. 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:16.240 Where on Tuesday they might have had a windstorm and it's just absolutely packed with leaves, it's going to take you longer. 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.799 So some days you might get a five-minute visit. 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:20.720 The next time it might be a 40-minute visit. 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.200 It's there's there's no guarantees. 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:36.799 I can say from the public pool side, my experience is that we had a lot of pool companies that they didn't teach their techs to spend enough time, so they wouldn't even check the flow meter, and it was stuck. 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:43.039 And I it was stuck when they were there, they don't go to the equipment, they skip a lot of stuff, and those are regulated. 00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:47.839 I mean, one time I showed up and the pool guy didn't even realize the pool was a public pool. 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.839 That was just a regular private pool, and he and I'm like, no, this is regulated, it's a public pool. 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:58.319 So it's like the basics sometimes aren't trained to these texts, and they're just thrown out there. 00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:05.359 And I think that they're not taught what they should be doing sometimes, which would require a little bit more time, you know. 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.799 I think doing 30 pools a day is a little crazy. 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.000 I think the normal would be more like 20. 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:18.240 Cut 10 off, do a better job, and give a good service to your customers. 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.440 Shine up those ladders and handrails and stuff like that. 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.799 Make the pool sparkle, make it look good, you know. 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.680 Yeah, well, like I say, we're 100% residential. 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:37.440 Um, we we try and keep our runs between 50 and 20 pools, uh, 15 and 20, uh, so that we don't have crazy run-on days. 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:44.079 But again, we only do the water chemistry, we don't do skimming, we don't do filter cleaning, those are all a la carte add-ons. 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.319 So they call us as needed. 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:53.519 Um, and you know, we let our customers know this is what you're getting for your money, and they're happy with it, they're fine with it. 00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:58.799 If you're disappointed with the service that you're getting from your pool guy, for a starter, there's a million other pool guys out there. 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:05.599 Somebody's gonna be happy to snap them up, but talk to your pool guy and say, Hey, listen, this is what I'm seeing, and I'm not quite happy with it. 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:06.640 Can we fix it? 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:07.279 Right? 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:08.240 Yep. 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.799 So it depends, it depends on what's going on and what their service is and what they're doing. 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:21.119 Yeah, but sometimes some of them are doing a little more than they should be doing. 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.920 We don't you want quality, not just quantity. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:30.160 It's not about how many pools can I do in a day so that I can, you know, make as much money as possible. 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.200 We need some quality back into our service companies as well, you know. 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:47.119 And I think the public pool side, when I did that for 17 years, I saw a lack of quality because I shouldn't have been closing 50% of those pools and having to reinspect them. 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.519 That's a high percentage to reinspect.

00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:50.640 All right. 00:33:50.799 --> 00:34:04.720 And especially knowing they're regulated, that you know, that that's and there's certain things that would close the pool or require a reinspection, and it's not like a really long list of things in Florida. 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:09.039 All right, so any last comments on that topic that you have, Rob? 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.920 No, I think I've commented enough on that topic. 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.679 All right, so now I wanted to talk. 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.239 I saw uh Hasa uh had a really nice algae field guide. 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:21.920 I shared that with you, right, Rob? 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.519 And it's really nice about identifying it. 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.559 And so, what what are our three types of algae? 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:29.280 You know, I know. 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.920 I'm just trying to let give you a chance to talk a little bit. 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.000 Green mostard and black. 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:39.840 Now, up in our region, we don't have uh a high incidence of mustard or black algae. 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:53.440 Most of our stuff is uh just a regular, easy to easy to do green algae, and as everybody knows, you stay on top of that by brushing the entire pool and keeping your chlorine uh at the right levels and your pH at the right levels. 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.039 Easy to easy to treat. 00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:07.360 Yeah, according to them, the the green algae you said uh you know you deal with the most the key signs is cloudy green water, slick, slimy surfaces is the key signs. 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.079 Uh common location is like all throughout the whole pool. 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.559 Uh they said uh easy easy for level to get rid of. 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.320 Mustard algae is that yellow brought brown dust that looks like dirt, pollen, or sand. 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:30.159 So if you're new to the industry, that's key indication, key sign of mustard algae, yellow mustard algae. 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:38.880 Um, it usually common location where you have shaded walls, floors, and low circulation areas, moderate level to get rid of. 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.880 Why don't you go ahead and tackle the black algae one there, uh Rob? 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:52.639 Well, I mean, like I say, we don't have a whole lot of exposure up here to the black algae, but uh the black algae you'll see it'll start formulating dark spots in areas. 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:59.840 And the problem with the black algae is that if you have uh um a rough surface, it's going to anchor itself in there. 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:15.920 So even if you have a vinyl liner, it's possible for this to happen because if you have calcification on the liner, if you uh got an aggressive finish because the liner is aged and it's not as smooth as it used to be, uh it's going to get in there and it's going to uh want to stay. 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:21.920 Now, the thing with black algae is the best treatment obviously is to spot brush, right? 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.239 So you have to spot treat those areas. 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:34.960 Um, and I hear a lot of people is like, oh yeah, you know, we rub a trichlor um tablet on the area because it gives that direct chlorine where those roots are sitting. 00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:42.800 And again, if the roots can get in there and embed, the trichlor will also rub off and hopefully stay in contact uh to kill it up. 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:47.599 Yep, so black's the hardest one to get rid of. 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.960 And this is a nice little simple field guide for somebody new to the industry. 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.800 I think Casa did a good job. 00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:01.679 They're a chemical manufacturer out of California, but they also have locations in Texas now. 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:08.800 And I joined up their newsletter thing online or whatever, and it was login and you could download it. 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.239 It's only two pages. 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:16.000 It goes over the three types, it goes over how to treat green algae, how to spot it, how to treat it. 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:24.880 It gets into then mustard algae, how to spot it, how to treat it, and then it gets into black algae on the second page, how to spot it and treat it. 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.280 Then it has a nice little prevention checklist, which I thought I was gonna spend a little bit more time on. 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.880 So, what are some of the prevention stuff? 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.000 Yeah, no, we're gonna spend we're gonna spend some time on the prevention checklist. 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:39.280 So it says, you know, like you have to keep your proper chlorine uh for the approved CYA levels. 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:40.719 So this is a relatively new thing. 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:49.119 Like when we're teaching our CPO, uh, the CDC talks about a 5% cyanuric acid uh ratio from your chlorine. 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:53.760 So if your cyanuric acid is at 30, your chlorine has to be at 1.5, right? 00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:00.079 Um, and with the Bob Lowry course, which some of you might be familiar with great course of the R. 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:10.639 We used to talk about a 7% ratio, and when we were talking about a 7% ratio, everybody else in the industry saying, Oh no, that's BS, don't worry about that, it's not true, you don't need it. 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:17.360 And now all of a sudden, boom, uh CDC has come up and with their little chart saying, Oh, this is what it should be. 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:34.800 So a lot of times, and uh, this is part of my uh teaching that I do down in Long Beach, is talking about the cyanuric acid ratio because algae isn't the problem, algae is a symptom of the problem, and you have to solve the problem or else the symptoms are going to keep coming back. 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:42.000 So,

with this cyanuric acid ratio in mind, you should have an easier life when it comes to your algae. 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.000 Now, one of the things that they say is to brush, all right. 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:53.280 A lot of people now are using robotic vacuums which have spinny wheels on the bottom of it in order to scoop up the dirt. 00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:58.400 Does that act well enough as far as brushing the walls go? 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.840 Or, and I'm asking this is your opinion, this is an honest question. 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.800 Do you feel that you still need to get in there with a brush and make sure you get every square inch? 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:14.639 Yeah, I think so because I'm gonna use an example of my aunt and my husband's aunt and uncle, they've had a pool for like eight years now. 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.320 He doesn't have a pool company. 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:32.480 The uncle takes care of himself, and he has one of those robotic vacuums, the creepy crawley, whatever you want to call it, that goes around the pool and is connected to the skimmer, but he still goes every other day to maybe twice a week or whatever, and is um brushing the pool. 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:38.400 He has his brush, he brushes it, and I have never seen algae in that pool anywhere. 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:48.320 He takes such a good jump uh time to take care of it, and that's where I was gonna go back to the first topic we talked about about quality time. 00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:58.559 If you're really gonna be brushing the pool like you should be to try to prevent algae, that takes more than five minutes right there, on top of anything else that you need to be doing. 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:09.199 And so the customer deserves to have the service of their waters balanced so that they're not having to resurface their pool sooner than they need to, because that's expensive now. 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:20.239 So, this is where I was trying to get into the time that five minutes I don't think is possible, really, unless the customer is just paying for chemical delivery or something really quick. 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:25.280 But a lot of their customers aren't paying for that because they find out they don't know how to take care of their pool. 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.559 That's why they hire the pool company, especially down here in Florida. 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:29.920 That they're doing everything. 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:40.079 So five minute service in Florida, when you're doing pretty much everything and trying to do this prevention checklist and everything else, five minutes becomes really hard, right? 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.800 And this kind of comes back to the prevention checklist. 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.000 There's a lot of things to do here that you gotta think about. 00:40:46.239 --> 00:41:00.480 And yes, brushing, I believe, is very important because it breaks the algae off the wall, especially the yellow mustard algae and the green algae, so that there's more surface area for the chemicals to treat and kill it. 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:09.280 Now, you see, I've always been under the impression with yellow and black algae that you shouldn't use a robotic vacuum because it will spread it all over the place. 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.480 Uh, and with those two types of algae, you need to spot treat. 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.119 So, spot brush and then sanitize your equipment afterwards so that it doesn't spread. 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:23.440 Now, black algae, which some people have said is not an algae, right? 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.039 There's been some study on that. 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:32.320 I think Rudy uh had done a lot of studies with black algae and determine it's what a uh cyanobacteria. 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:44.400 Right, and so sometimes how we treat something is dependent on the organism that it is, and that's how they determine the chemical you're gonna use or the treatment process, right? 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:53.519 Um, with black algae, don't you have to take like a wire brush, go over it before, and I know this, I'm just trying to let you reaffirm that. 00:41:53.760 --> 00:42:02.639 Well, I mean, with a concrete finish, uh, most of the time you're gonna be either using a metallic or a semi-metallic brush, but again, it's going to be hard on the finish, like you were saying. 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.400 Um, the more you brush, the more aggressive that finish is going to become. 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.920 So it's not something that we want to do on a regular basis. 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.800 All of our pools are pretty much vinyl, I think. 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.360 Out of the 300 pools that we take care of, we have maybe five that are concrete finish. 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.920 Oh, wow, it's opposite down here in Florida. 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:21.199 Yeah, exactly. 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:21.920 Exactly. 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.199 So, you know, and that's what I'm saying, you know, like we don't have the same kind of things that you have. 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:37.760 So uh when we bring up these topics, you know, like sometimes it's stuff that I'm not familiar with because we just don't run across it as I say, like black algae, we don't really come across enough here. 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.280 And uh, you know, shame on me, I haven't forced myself uh to take Rudy's class yet. 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.599 Oh, I've taken it, it's a great class. 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:47.599 I recommend I know that's what I'm saying. 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.079 I haven't I haven't forced myself to take it yet. 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:56.320 I have his book, and I took the class, and it was I learned a lot about algae that I didn't know. 00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:00.960 It is all these specialty classes, it's just finding the time to take do it, right? 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:02.719 Yep, that's exactly it. 00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:14.639

The the prevention checklist from Hasa says do your brushing weekly, walls, steps, corners, and low circulation areas, maybe behind ladders or near handrails and stuff like that. 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:22.239 But those are the common areas, and they're the same weekly, so not doing it like every other day, like the uncle is, you know. 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:29.840 Well, when I hear people always having like problems, continuous problems through the summer, everything seems to be good, but they still always have algae. 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:37.920 The first thing I tell them to do, pull your lights out of the niche because it's probably got a pocket trapped in there underneath this the ladders, right? 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.719 Because again, it's areas that we don't concentrate and we don't have direct access to. 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:49.119 You got to pull these things out so that you can clean those areas, and then you know, hopefully, knock on wood, right? 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.320 Your your problems will uh fall in line. 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.960 So, yeah, uh and and and then is chemicals on, yeah, chemical levels. 00:43:59.119 --> 00:43:59.760 What's the PA? 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.840 Level it that it they recommend on this checklist. 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:09.280 On this, they recommend 72 to 7.8, which is your standard water chemistry guidelines. 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:19.519 If you have any kind of a water quality issue, a lower pH will help you out because it's going to make your chlorine uh become more efficient as far as its job goes. 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:26.639 However, the other side of the that blade is that it's going to get used up faster because it's going to be more hyper. 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:31.119 So important, it's important to run the pump too, right? 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:33.119 I'm sorry, to who to who to what? 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.400 Who said run the pump? 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:35.519 Run the pump line. 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:36.079 Oh, yeah. 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.480 No, my I turn my pump on in April and I turn it off in uh in uh November. 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.760 That's 24 hours in 2024-7. 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:53.119 See, Florida, there the average length of time for a pump on a residential pool running is like six to eight hours. 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:54.480 Right. 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.719 So barely enough time for one turnover. 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.679 You're filtering, treating 68% of your water. 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.199 Right, which makes it that's why it makes it really hard. 00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:04.159 Yeah. 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:13.599 And then if they another important thing on the checklist is clean or backwash or filter when the pressure or flow indicates it's needed. 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:17.760 That's important to do, especially with prevention for algae. 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.079 Here they're saying use enzymes. 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.719 Enzymes are a nice little helper, right? 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.239 Uh, you know, I've been using enzymes for years and years. 00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:30.639 Uh, I'm too fat and lazy to get down on my hands and knees to scrub a scum line. 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.840 Uh, since enzymes break down greases and oils, and that's what most of our contamination is. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.360 I absolutely love them. 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:46.719 Plus, it flows through the entire system, so it keeps my filter cleaner longer, which gives me less cleaning of filters uh to do, so my maintenance is lower. 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.400 Absolutely love it. 00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:49.840 And then I also use borates. 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:51.760 So borates may not forget. 00:45:54.400 --> 00:46:02.000 Yeah, there well, the funny thing is, I was using them before I took his class, and while he was going through the class, it's like, oh, now it makes sense. 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:03.760 Oh, now it makes sense. 00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:08.239 Education, you're sitting there and you're like, I've been doing this, but now this makes sense. 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:12.000 Yeah, I was doing it and I knew it worked, but I had no idea why it worked. 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:18.639 So that course kind of opened up my eyes so that I understood what I was doing and why it was working. 00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:34.960 So, yeah, no, I'm a I'm a total lover of enzymes, total lover of using borates in the pool, and uh, I've gotta say, you know, and I don't want to jinx myself, but I haven't had algae in my pool for at least 10 years, maybe 12. 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:44.000 Um, my cartridge filters that some people replace every uh couple of months, my cartridges are from 2013. 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.039 Wow. 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:58.800 Yeah, and I attribute it all to the enzymes, you know, not waiting too long to clean them, not waiting too long to clean them, and uh making sure that the greases and oils are uh are eked out of them. 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:06.559 When my Hayward representative heard that he sent me a free uh set of filters, I still haven't taken them out of the box yet because these ones are still working perfect. 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.840 So and what's the last thing on the checklist there? 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:16.880 And it's it's kind of the an important one as well that you should be checking, you should have a method of testing it and stuff like that. 00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:18.719 Yeah, phosphates, yeah. 00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:19.440 Yeah, sure. 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:21.440 Talk about that a little bit. 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.760 Yeah, well, I mean, uh every water test that we do, we test for phosphates. 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:32.400 Um, we have a maximum allowance of 500 parts per billion. 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.039 It's not million guys, it's parts per billion. 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:46.960 So once we uh actually start seeing it starting to

climb, we start doing treatment, preventative treatment instead of hitting that critical point and having to take extreme measures. 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.280 So um, you know, our maximum tolerance is 500. 00:47:51.360 --> 00:48:03.119 Uh, but when we start seeing it climb above 50, 75, we start putting in a small weekly dose to take care of it because anybody who's used phosphate treatment knows it's gonna cloud the water a little bit. 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:07.760 So I don't want to be adding two liters of this stuff, it's gonna look like the pool is full of milk. 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:15.840 Uh, so if we do a small dose every week or every couple of weeks, it's gonna take care of those phosphates as we go and keep them from building up. 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:19.119 Yeah, it's being preventative instead of waiting until you got a problem. 00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:23.039 So you gotta know to test for it and you're routinely treating for it. 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:32.239 It's almost like using uh an antibiotic or something like that to try to prevent something, you're on a certain medication to prevent a buildup or whatever. 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:39.599 Like I'm on a statin for high cholesterol because I'm just a bad person eating food, and so cholesterol is high. 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.320 You put me on a statin, it's preventative. 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.000 I don't have high blood pressure, I don't have any blocked arteries or veins or anything. 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:55.119 But what they're doing is using the statin to keep my cholesterol levels down because I was told I'd have to be a vegan in order to uh, you know, really. 00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:00.079 And I'm like, I like my meat, so I'm not gonna be a vegan. 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.039 So I you know, I like my hamburger, I like my whatever I'm gonna eat. 00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:12.480 So French fries, oh, especially those ones we had in Atlantic City, those seasons ones when we went out to dinner. 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:14.960 Oh, I could eat those forever. 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.360 And then I got my cholesterol. 00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:22.079 They put them, uh they put that old base spice on there, and I'm sure that stuff wasn't healthy. 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.719 But I got home and I ordered like the one-gallon jug of it. 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.599 Oh, it was so good, and I never had that type of spice on the on the fries before. 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.360 Oh, so good, Ron. 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:46.079 But me being on a statin to keep my preventative so I don't become my dad who didn't do that, it's the same thing with using your phosphate remover in a smaller amount routinely to keep the phosphate levels down. 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.360 You're trying to keep it from getting where it's gonna cause problems. 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:50.719 Yeah, managing it. 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:51.679 Yeah, manage it. 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.760 You gotta manage your pools, not you gotta be proactive, not reactive. 00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:02.000 I teach this in my CPO class: proactive with maintenance, proactive with your water balance and everything else. 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:10.719 Don't react where you don't pay attention, don't care, and then you now gotta react to the result that happens from not paying attention to it. 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.079 So yeah, well, I mean, I I say the same thing. 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.599 I think it's chapter uh chapter 14 or something like that. 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.960 Uh, that's one of the first slides, you know, and that's exactly what I say. 00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.039 Be proactive, not reactive. 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:34.159 If you hear your pump bearing starting to make a bit of noise, it's usually easier to change that$30 bearing than it is to wait till the pump explodes and have to change a$3,000 pump. 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:35.199 Yep. 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:41.280 So we talked about algae, we talked about like how many pools people are doing today, we talked about the shows. 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:48.480 One thing I forgot to even mention, and a lot of people, you know, they notice social media stuff all the time. 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.920 I'm sure you notice that I've been working out. 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:53.840 Yes, I have seen. 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.599 And it's just muscle because it weighs more. 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:09.519 I mean, the thing is, you know, what do you think? 00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.320 Do I look like I have some muscle now that I didn't have a couple of things? 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:13.920 I don't see a muscle, no. 00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:19.599 Oh, I know, and I don't mean to guys, I don't mean to be cruel. 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:41.440 You're uh you know, I'm I'm sure I'm sure you're feeling a lot better having uh you know, since since you started doing this routine, and I completely applaud you for having the dedication to go each and every day because honest to God, I could use some time in the gym, but I'm also horrible at finding an excuse to not do stuff. 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.880 We've been going religiously for like a month and a half now. 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:49.920 So we take two rest days a week and we go five days, and typically we're dropping. 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.079 Yes, I have a nine-year-old guy's in fourth grade. 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.599 Yes, I know I I'm old, I'm 49 with a nine-year-old. 00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:01.760 We drop them off at school, and then we go straight to the gym, work out for an hour, and then I come home and I work. 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:09.679 So I'm working working to stay healthy so I can continue to teach in our industry. 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:11.119 I gotta be healthy. 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.800 So if you want to stay safe and healthy, take my OSHA class, guys. 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.679 All right, well, I think that's a wrap for today. 00:52:19.920 -->

00:52:23.199 Anything else you want to bring up here at the end before we leave everybody? 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:24.320 Thank you for everybody listening. 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:26.159 You didn't do your sponsor video. 00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:34.239 Oh, thank you for reminding me, and that's not because it's unimportant, um, because they are very important. 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:46.559 Pool Brain is so awesome, and they uh sponsor this podcast since the beginning of the year this year, and I'm you only forgot because you're so excited I was back. 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:48.960 Sarcasm, sarcasm. 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:56.480 Yeah, I got so excited that you are back that I forgot the whole time sarcasm to play the uh the sponsor video. 00:52:56.639 --> 00:53:06.480 But if you've made it to the end of the live podcast or you're listening to the recording of this, please, please, please, you know, check out uh Cool Brain, they're awesome. 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:10.159 Um, they support this podcast so greatly. 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.960 Um, I couldn't do it without them, and I can't wait to see them at the international show. 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:18.000 So we'll be right back in a minute to say bye to everybody. 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.840 Let's hear about cool brain really quick, and then we'll be right back. 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:29.519 I thought there's so many customers that are using this app for this feature, this app for this, and this app for this, and said, well, why don't you just use Fool Brain? 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:30.239 Because we can do it all. 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:31.920 I absolutely love Pool Brain. 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.920 There's not a better app on the market. 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.280 We've tested a ton of different ones and we landed on Fool Brain for a reason. 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.840 We have well over 6,000 tools on FoolBrain. 00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.159 We've been on a few of the platforms in the past, and this one's been by far the best one we've been on. 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:52.079 It's just very intuitive and easy to use for full professionals and very obviously made for full professionals, and I really love it. 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:22.000 I believe that everybody's thank you, Bull Brain. 00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:23.519 Thank you. 00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:28.719 And and I'm gonna promise when I put the recording up, they're gonna have their video twice. 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:34.960 I'm gonna put their video in the beginning since I got so excited that my regular co-anchor was back, I forgot. 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:35.920 I'm sorry. 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:43.519 So we'll double it up for the recording that goes up onto all the podcast uh directories or whatever it is. 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.280 But welcome back, Rob. 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.599 I'm glad to have you back and uh your sarcasm. 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:59.760 Well, our season ends tomorrow, so hopefully, I'll be able to do uh these on a regular basis again because I won't have so many things pulling me in different directions. 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.400 Uh, I am a bit of a traveler, so uh you might have to forgive me there. 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:05.360 Like even when I was in St. 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:09.280 Lucia, I wanted to clue in to uh to your podcast. 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.360 Unfortunately, I got caught right in the middle of a class and it just didn't happen. 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.639 So uh you know how it is, work comes first with me. 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:20.639 So if anybody wants to be a guest co-anchor, get on my list. 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:41.280 Um, so that when Rob tells me the week before I can't do the live podcast next week for good reasons, you get a chance to be on a podcast, guys, and we'll really highlight about you and what you do in the industry, and it and you don't have to commit to being on every single podcast episode, just one little co-anchor in the morning. 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:44.320 So, all right, thanks. 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:48.559 That's a wrap for this one, and thank you for being on with me. 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:51.840 Uh it's again, I got so excited that you were back. 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.519 Uh just like thank you for yeah, I know you're lying. 00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.320 No, I'm not, I'm not growing a nose. 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:01.519 I'm not gonna yo. 00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:02.880 Oh my goodness. 00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:09.440 Well, I'm gonna be able to smack you in a couple weeks for that when we're at the international show. 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.880 I can't do that here, but nope. 00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.840 You're welcome to get back to me anyway you want to get back to me. 00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.199 You're gonna catch us walking around, maybe in our podcast shirts. 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:30.320 If you're gonna be at the International Poem Spa Deck Patio Show in New Orleans, let's all have a good time, get some education, meet people at the trade show, uh, do all that good stuff we do at conferences. 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:36.159 I'm gonna I'll be huffing and puffing, and she'll be the one doing the 50 push-ups or sit-ups or both. 00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:41.199 I'll be doing my workout walking the trade show, man, and walking to the convention center. 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:45.360 I don't need to go to the uh the uh gym during that five days. 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.000 I'm flying in the 14th and I fly home the 19th. 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:50.480 So I'm I'm there like five days. 00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:55.280 Hey, my guest co-anchor from two weeks ago is on. 00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.800 Hey, Adam Lawrence, he's Cavalier 2112. 00:56:58.880 --> 00:56:59.679 Just joined. 00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:04.079 Adam Lawrence joined the live podcast, and I just mentioned you on the podcast. 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:10.480 Thank you for you and PAL Lighting for being uh guest co-anchor the last time

around. 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.119 That was a wonderful podcast that we did. 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.119 So check out pal lighting. 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:22.800 Still, again, if you haven't checked them out, they got some beautiful like strip lighting and all kinds of other cool stuff. 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:27.599 All right, I'm gonna say yeah, yeah. 00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:28.880 He he's gonna be there. 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.400 So if he's walking the trade show, find Adam Lawrence. 00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:40.559 He'll have his pal lighting shirt on walking around and talk to him about some strip lighting or whatever, and he he he will love it. 00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:44.480 He he just said looking forward to the national international show. 00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:51.679 So he's gonna be there and walk in the trade show and present, and he'll be at the Pool Nation Awards. 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:59.119 So he'll be able to meet all the wonderful people in the industry there, which there's a lot of people at that event to meet and network with. 00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:00.480 So yeah. 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:06.159 All right, I get I get so excited, and I keep I just keep talking like a run-on sentence here. 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:08.639 I I never noticed that. 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:20.079 All right, I'm gonna we're gonna end now with our uh outro, and we'll see you guys in two weeks on November 10th. 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:24.239 We'll be back for the live podcast because today's the 24th. 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.639 We skip a week, we're back, no, the third, November 3rd. 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.400 That was wrong. 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:31.440 November 3rd. 00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:37.199 Make up my mind because when you said November 10th, I I almost had a heart attack because I have a CPO. 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:39.599 Yeah, no, no, no, it's November 3rd. 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.079 So we're on the today's the 20th. 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.599 No, wait, 27th is now we're the 27th. 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.719 We skipped that November 10th is the Tuesday we would do the live podcast. 00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:52.639 You have a CPO class going on. 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.679 Yeah, I uh I was originally I didn't. 00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:01.440 Originally I didn't, and then what happened was I got a guest co-anchor listeners. 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:04.960 I get a guest co-anchor again. 00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.960 So let me know, hit me up now or two weeks from now, 10 a.m. 00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:13.679 Eastern time, uh on the let's talk about November. 00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.039 November 10th, you said November 10th at 10 a.m. 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:18.400 Eastern. 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:23.280 Sorry, Rob, you're not gonna be able to do your sarcasm in two weeks. 00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:24.239 It's okay. 00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:30.239 I'll I'll uh I'll watch, I'll try and uh tune into one of the live podcasts and just put it up there as a pick. 00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:36.880 All right, it was nice talking with everybody out there and thanks for tuning in. 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:38.880 Thanks for tuning in. 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.000 We're gonna keep doing this. 00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:40.960 This is fun. 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.639 Thanks for diving in today with the Let's Talk About Fools podcast. 00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:51.679 Be sure to follow us on our YouTube channel or our Facebook page. 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:59.519 And feel free to rate, subscribe, and leave a review wherever you listen to your podcast so more aquatic professionals like you can learn about the show. 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:04.719 We appreciate it, and we'll catch you in the next episode of the Let's Talk About Fools Podcast.