บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ LIL REL HOWERY

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00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:34.960 But we going up though. 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:40.159 And man, we got one of the funniest comedians. 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:41.199 This is a treat. 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:50.240 We got one of the funniest comedians, actors, writers, producers, and now directors in the game, man. 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:51.439 Hold on, I got a list of credits. 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:51.840 Wait a minute. 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.039 He got the credits for your ass, man. 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:56.400 Okay, get out. 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:57.680 Who's got jokes? 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:02.319 Vacation friends, free gun, bad trip, motherhood, Judas and the Black Mr. 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:03.360 Samio, Burbox. 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:04.960 Burbox is a slip no more. 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.439 Burb Plastic Black Burr Box. 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.919 Um, Uncle Drew, the Carmichael show, multiple stand-up specials in currently right now. 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:16.240 Haunted Heist, give it up. 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:17.680 In the days right now, baby. 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:21.840 Random Howering every little rabbin in the building, baby. 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.280 How you doing, brother? 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:24.159 I'm good, man. 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.680 I'm excited to I love this show, so thank y'all for having me. 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.680 Now, bruh, now this is so I just checked out Haunted Heist over the weekend. 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:32.400 Me too. 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.919 And bruh, great movie, bruh. 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:41.680 For that to be your first feature film directorial debut, bruh, I thought it was a really good movie. 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:46.080 Now, but I'm before we get into all of that, this was the biggest thing that I noticed, though. 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:51.120 It said Rail Howry and not Lil' Rail Howry. 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:54.879 What went behind how long have you been going by Rail Howry? 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:56.639 When did you drop the Lil' like Bow Wow? 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:58.159 When did you drop the Lil'? 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:00.639 I didn't drop it, Ness per se. 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:06.159 It's funny because I I'm like, let me separate the actor from the comic from the director. 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:06.560 Oh. 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:15.680 So I just did like Rail Howry, is just the director thing that I wanted to play with and see if that would be fun to just kind of switch to aliases up. 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:17.600 And to get them agents off my ass. 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:18.319 No, I'm joking. 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:20.399 You rep Lil'Rail. 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:21.360 You don't rep Rail. 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.720 I'm just But wait a minute. 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:29.360 But your but okay, so doing that though, because your real name not even Rail, right? 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:30.800 Isn't Rail your brother's name or something? 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:38.560 No, it's my so the nickname Lil'Rail came from my uh big cousin Daryl, and uh Lil Rail became the hoopin' name. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:40.399 Yeah, it was a whole hooping story. 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.079 It's like a whole Urkel basketball story. 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:45.279 It's kind of crazy. 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:51.120 And so what made you not use your real name for the director and just do rail? 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:51.839 You get what I'm saying? 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:52.639 Like, why didn't you go? 00:04:52.959 --> 00:05:00.399 I still rail is still a very significant thing to not just my career, but um just a lot. 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:06.959 Like that that nickname is what got me through high school and all types of it's it's it has its own meaning to it. 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:15.279 And then like I've I've had people in the past tell me, like, um, you know, that little rail ain't gonna be in lights and all this other shit got it. 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:16.800 It's like, I'll show you. 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:17.920 Okay. 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:19.279 Okay. 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.759 Hold on, I did got hold on, hold on, I'm about to say, because I'm a I'm a comedy nerd, man. 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:27.199 I I I admire anybody that makes a movie. 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:29.439 Um, because I know how much work goes into it. 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:36.000 That's something that I'm about to get on the journey of embarking myself to make like my first independent film. 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:44.319 I wanted to know how long did it take for you to get the financing for the movie and what was the process? 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:48.399 Because I heard you say on Breakfast Club that it was like 1.5 million,

right? 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:48.800 Yeah. 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.680 How difficult or not difficult was it to get the financing? 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:54.319 What was the steps that you took to get the financing? 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:58.560 It was it it's hard to describe because it was it's a bit complicated, right? 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:04.160 Because with indies, man, a lot of people will say they're gonna geese and then change their mind. 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:04.399 Right. 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.720 And it happens quite a few times, actually. 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.439 Where like Can you say their names and social security numbers? 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:20.959 But I'll tell you, because sometimes you'll see them put some fun something and then it flops, even though they gave you a yes, and then they get nervous again, especially with indie uh um investors. 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:21.439 Right. 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:22.240 You know what I'm saying? 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.199 They're like, damn, we don't know if we want to take another chance or something else. 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:36.639 So we got kind of lucky where like uh the coven who has worked, you know, they've done distribution deals and stuff like that for movies like Terrifier and all and the success of that. 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:42.879 And they decided to jump into the financing game after the success of the Terrifier movie. 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:52.959 So you know, that and then we got an independent businessman in Detroit uh by the name of Faraz that put up some of the bread and a lot a lot, you know, it's we just got good partners, man. 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:59.279 And honestly, shout out to uh uh uh Sean and Josh, who I did the meal with on Hulu. 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.199 That's who approached me about all this. 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:08.959 Uh when they had an idea for a movie which was Hunter Heist, and then we kind of went back and forth, and I was just saying, like, let's do a comedy horror, should be this. 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:14.720 And then we got a writer, Carl Reed, but as all this was happening, I'm like, all right, so how are we gonna get the money for this? 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:24.160 Yeah, you know, and they was like, Well, we're talking to them and talking to them, and we did we lost the money at first, and we was trying to get like three million to do this. 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:31.199 Wow, honestly, that's what what the goal was, and it'll be in 1.5, and I'm like, yo, I still think we can pull it off. 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:33.439 We just gotta be super organized. 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:42.639 And the relationships mean so much because this cast is I I you know I mean, why are we here? 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:53.680 So look, there is a perspective sometimes from the and I I won't say the audience, because the audience actually gets it. 00:07:53.920 --> 00:08:14.160 It's some of the uh elder statesmen of the business that are a little uh uh out of touch, that don't um that may or may not understand the impact of a film like this because it's Tiffany Haddish, Rail Howry, Carlos Miller, and King Batch. 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:15.759 And I'm like Tony Baker. 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:16.879 Tony Baker. 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.120 Yeah, I I I didn't even get into the cameos. 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:28.079 I'm just when I saw the poster, I say, yo, I don't know if y'all understand how I let me step out of this conversation, step in. 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.200 I just saw the Kev movie with Kat and Mike and Kev in it. 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:34.639 And the cast SEO. 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:40.480 And you see how long it took them to get to that. 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:49.039 So to have a film like this exist already with the Titans of a generation is highly impactful, bro. 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:50.639 It's highly impactful. 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.799 How did the cast come together? 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:57.279 Uh I I I don't have to really ask the choices on why you chose them. 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:58.480 How did it happen? 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.559 So let's start with that first. 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.600 That's very intentional, okay? 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:10.480 I feel like I don't understand what the these other niggas is doing. 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.799 Speak on it, and I'ma hop in, I'm on their ass right after you get it. 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:26.240 I I I I I don't, you know, but also it's an eff it's the effect of kind of hip hop in a way. 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.039 This a lot of us come from this boss. 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:30.000 You know what's funny? 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.279 Like Dame Dash, right? 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:32.639 And this is keeping it 100. 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:33.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.279 Like, he is a part of a lot of our makeup of what we thought a boss should be. 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:38.399 Right, right, right, right. 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:38.720 Facts. 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:39.519 That is a fact. 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:40.879 Not his teeth, but yeah. 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:44.080 Yeah, but I'm just saying that that but at that you're stupid. 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:45.360 Now we that's the future. 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:46.159 Yeah, that's the future. 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.000 So just go back to the. 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:49.039 We talk about this day. 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:49.279 Yeah. 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:51.120 Paper soldiers. 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:56.000 So young you, young you was like, hey man, that's what bosses are. 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:56.399 Right, right. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:01.360 Like, we're watching with, you know, did all these guys just rah-rah, rah, and like we all bosses. 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.679 It starts with that weird shit first, right? 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:12.559 You try to, because I I remember like when BT was for sale and you saw like Byron Allen,

Diddy, and what's up, boy? 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:12.879 Come on. 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:14.559 London Brown is in the building. 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:15.840 London Brown's in the building, baby. 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:17.200 We gotta be here, baby. 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:17.679 Shut up. 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:18.559 You just got done murdering. 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:20.960 You just got done murdering somebody, man. 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:23.759 Look, you know what's crazy? 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.279 I love the fact that I I watch everything. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.960 And so, even all of y'all, like, I'm being, and I'm not even just saying this shit. 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:31.120 Right. 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:31.360 Right. 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:32.399 Cause I watch everything. 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:37.600 So, like, it's really interesting for me when I become fans of people I know. 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:39.519 No, seriously. 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:46.080 Like, like, I is you wouldn't believe how many chocolate Sundays fucking videos I just fucking watch and you just kill it. 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:46.799 You'd be killing. 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:47.919 No, seriously. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.679 Like, I just sit up and I just watch them. 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:55.200 I type in BT uh Kenzie on YouTube and it's like, ah, I just want to fucking laugh for about an hour. 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:56.000 Seriously. 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:57.200 I do it all the time. 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:59.679 Justin, the shit you've pulled off, bro. 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:07.759 Like you're actually one of the, to me, underrated comedic actors that that we've seen. 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:09.039 You've always killed that shit. 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:15.360 And man, London, when I tell you, motherfuckers don't get how dope comics are as dramatic actors. 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:17.840 We've seen examples of it. 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:19.200 Get out. 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:19.519 Yeah. 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.519 But bruh, like the way you Razor Kane is one of my favorite shows. 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:24.000 Oh, thanks. 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:27.519 So I'm a legit at midnight on Thursday motherfucker watching that shit. 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:28.159 Thanks, man. 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:28.799 You know what I mean? 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:30.960 Like, tell my wife, like, Well, I'm going downstairs. 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.320 Tell me to watch some violence as loud as I can. 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:44.720 No, but seriously, bro, like more, more than just this season, just in general, but bro, watching you, like, this is the thing about it. 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:46.639 I know how hilarious you are. 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:52.559 So watching you fall into character and doing that shit the way you're doing it, bro. 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:57.919 And we're talking about like facial expressions, like the nervousness of Marvin sometimes. 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:58.399 Yeah. 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:03.039 To to put that, to do that shit is fucking crazy. 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:08.639 And and not and not to just jump in the mail, because I don't know where where y'all are in the in the thing. 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:11.759 His cast in for Haunted House, but go for it. 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:17.360 Dude, you know, the and that's the thing I think that people don't understand is that with comics. 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.159 You know, I I thought about this the other day. 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.159 I think that people think comedy is easy because it's fun. 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:29.919 So a lot of problems get put on the on the dramatic side of things in the world. 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:38.240 But I'm like, yo, the the the timing and the geniusness of being able to say the right thing at the right time for the funny. 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:38.879 Oh, my goodness. 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:47.840 But because funny people make it look easy, it's like, let's just take Jordan, uh, represent South of Chicago. 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.879 You think, you, you think, well, I mean, all you gotta do is put a ball in a way. 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:56.000 I mean, it ain't that. 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:57.279 It ain't that great. 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:58.000 Right, right. 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:03.279 But then you look at somebody and you be like, and and let's, and have you have y'all been, but you I know you go to game. 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:04.320 Have you been to a live game? 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:05.039 Not yet. 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:06.879 We gotta get, we gotta get whatever we gotta do. 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:08.639 I don't know, we gotta figure out something to get judged to a game. 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:23.279 When you go to a game and you realize, like, what they do on the court is not like to get the ball down to execute, and you say, man, because even getting 10 points in the league, you're like, man, that's that's kind of tough. 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.759 You see how fast they go, them big niggas fast. 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:35.039 But then you and then so when you start thinking about the the Kobe's and LeBrons and the Jorans scoring 30 plus, you're like, man, that's a strategic move. 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.919 But all of that, it's also nerves too, though. 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:43.440 Like, it's funny, like just on the basketball shit, these motherfuckers take a thousand, two thousand shots a day. 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:44.080 A day. 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:45.279 They and they hit them. 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:53.440 But when they get in that game, and you talking about like now this is dealing with whatever your mentor shit is, whatever your c that's a whole nother thing. 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:55.279 You understand what I'm saying? 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:57.679 When the lights, was that Tony Rock who said when the lights are on? 00:13:57.759 --> 00:13:57.840 Yeah. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.480 Yeah,

we got what you gonna do when the lights on, man. 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:02.240 Yeah, man. 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:03.440 It's a whole nother thing. 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:09.440 That's why like when you watch Giannis in person and watch this nigga take three steps and he on the other side dunking at me. 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:11.679 On the other side of the corner. 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:13.200 You like, this nigga is low. 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.960 That's how when I first watched tennis for the first time. 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:24.240 The first time I went to go see tennis person, yeah, I didn't realize these motherfuckers are tall as like they're tall. 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:24.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:27.440 I was like, yo, these are like free. 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:29.279 I don't know what I thought this was. 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:29.600 Yeah. 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.840 I'm like, you guys are freaks of nature. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.879 Yeah, it means when you play in tennis, you like, why I can't get to the ball like that is because these motherfuckers beat it. 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:39.600 Man, think about soccer. 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:44.559 The stamina, you gotta have the stamina, like the court, the basketball court is already. 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:45.840 That's enough if you hoop. 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:47.519 That's enough going back and forth. 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:49.759 Soccer, they be running for days. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.080 It's like football fields back and forth, right? 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:52.720 That's serious. 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:53.360 It's crazy, man. 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:55.039 What being kicked in the shin. 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:55.440 Right. 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:56.240 Right. 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.519 Supposedly, them niggas be they be flopping. 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:00.320 They're the king of football. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:01.279 Oh, soccer play. 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.440 It's funny you say that because so this is my first time with the World Cup really watching soccer. 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.440 And I was like, oh, y'all some flopping. 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.320 Yeah, that's a nobody should say nothing about basketball again. 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:12.720 Not a not a yeah, you can't, not if you're a soccer fan. 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:13.440 Casting. 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:14.240 Okay, sorry. 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:15.519 No, no, we are. 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:16.320 So forget me. 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:16.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:17.919 Casting our heart. 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:19.120 What you said intentional. 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:28.159 It was very intentional with Hunter Heights, just because I, once again, I look at movies like let's just think about Robert Townsend, Ken Ivy Wayne, and Eddie Murphy. 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:28.960 GOATs. 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:35.679 They did a great job of putting people on and just working with whoever's next to them and who came before them. 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:38.879 And who can't it just it was just they didn't overthink it. 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:45.600 Even when it was times probably like when we hear Eddie say that he thought Richard didn't really fuck with him like that, but at the same time, he and Harlem Knights. 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:45.840 Yep. 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:46.879 You know what I'm saying? 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.879 Like, it's like it wasn't about all that. 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.639 Like, it's just like at the end of the day, we're in the same fraternity and it's business. 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:54.000 Like, it makes sense. 00:15:54.159 --> 00:16:06.320 So, like, you know, when you do see, like, it's funny because you like when you think about the 72 hours movie, and I just watched it, and I love that scene with him and Kat, but it made you want more of that. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.279 It's like, why don't y'all really do a movie together? 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:11.519 Like, what I don't fuck this cameo shit. 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:12.080 Right. 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:19.039 Like, just like pick one of these scripts that you guys get a million times a day and just pick one of the things. 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:25.840 You got all these writers, somebody gotta have something with just like just the three of y'all can really get it in, and whatever that is. 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:29.440 Like, even if you played it to like all y'all being villains or something, like just something. 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:30.639 You know what's so funny? 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:35.039 I got a project that I'm working on with Heartbeat that would be doing that. 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:35.840 Never mind. 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.039 It's kind of inside. 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:39.600 Come on, it's super inside. 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:46.320 But wait a minute, when 72 hours came out, they called back, they had with ghosts, and then when 72 hours came, called, they they reached out to my manager. 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:49.919 Uh, where's Justin at with uh that script? 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.519 Like, anyways, that's super that's super, super inside, inside shit. 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.200 But it should be that, right? 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.000 And so you think about like how long it's took to do that. 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.679 Like, for me, I've always did that, whether you paid attention to it or not. 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:07.039 Like, when we had the sketch series Friends of the People, we had so many stand-ups on that show. 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:08.000 Hell yeah. 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:09.279 Before they even had shows. 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:11.839 Like Pete Davidson, every Che, all of them before they like. 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:14.880 Everybody, but that was just us as a cast. 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:19.599 We're talking about the guest stuff, like we brought it Romney, everybody before they had anything.

00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:19.920 Yeah. 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:21.519 Just because they was our buddies. 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:21.680 Right. 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:23.759 Like Jirab would come sit in the writer's room. 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:24.960 He wrote a couple sketches. 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:25.440 Wow. 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:26.160 Oh, wow. 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.079 So I'm just saying, like, it's a way to do it. 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:30.079 I just don't understand why they wasn't doing this. 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:30.400 Yeah. 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:35.119 See, I believe that I mean, uh I do this more for the audience than for us. 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:39.599 You know, like you said, Robert Eddy, then there's Def Jam. 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:43.200 That I, then there's the people that hosted Comic View. 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:46.319 Cause they, I feel like all of them are doing great in life. 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:51.200 And then there's the Comic View All-Stars, and then let me tell it, baby, then it's Who's Got Jokes. 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:56.079 It's Who's Got Jokes, and like the internet is like that next phase. 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.720 And you and Tiff are Who's Got Jokes? 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:00.640 Batch is the internet, Los. 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:05.839 I say, I said, no, this is like, this is where the mergings come. 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:12.160 And it's like, but we don't have that, that visceral thing against each other like they do. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:13.440 Like that, that negative thing. 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:18.880 So to see it, when I saw that poster, I was like, nigga, this is this is a moment, you guys. 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:19.759 This is a moment. 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.480 To see them all, this is a we are in theaters. 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:22.720 Yeah. 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:24.160 This is a this is a moment. 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:25.200 This means something. 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:26.000 This is important. 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.640 Y'all been asking, how can y'all support killing it? 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:30.079 Well, we got an answer for you. 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:30.720 We got one. 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:31.440 Cash app. 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:32.000 Boom. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.079 We are independently produced right now. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.319 We're paying for this to give y'all a great show every week. 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:38.000 Y'all be asking about a Patreon. 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:39.759 You don't even have to, this ain't even much money to do that. 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.759 Just go put something in there right now. 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:42.000 Yeah. 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.920 It was very, very intentional. 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:54.240 And, you know, it was one of those things where, like, when they, you know, asked me if I wanted to direct something, I was like, yeah, I do, but we need two cases full of stand-ups who's starring this. 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:54.799 Yeah. 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.440 How do you speaking of that? 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:12.799 Sometimes for me, uh, and this just for even for you guys, sometimes for me, sometimes uh comedy, comedy sometimes if they're oversaturated with comedians, sometimes they can step on each other's funny. 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:22.880 Uh shout out to Von Roberts, and he posted something about what was cool about Friday was you got Bernie, you got Spoon, Mr. 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.839 Spoon respectfully, peace be upon him, you got uh AJ Johnson with Chris, A.J. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:28.319 Johnson. 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:39.200 And it felt it didn't feel like it felt like everybody was able to do their own funny without it being like it didn't feel like everyone was like, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to do my funny. 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:39.519 Ha ha. 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:50.720 So in in your with your idea of trying to include comedians, stand-ups into a project, what do you think would help balance that out? 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.759 Just know what somebody gotta know what the fuck they doing. 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:55.920 Somebody just gotta know what they do. 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:57.119 You said as a the director. 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:05.039 As a director, as a producer, like because let's think about it, it's it is movies out here with a bunch of comedians in it, and you watch it, and it's all over the fucking place. 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:05.839 Oh, for sure. 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:06.880 And you like, damn. 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:07.359 Yeah. 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:09.359 Cause that's also what's happening too. 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.759 Like, we're watching people make these things. 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:17.599 And you do have these hustling producers who know how to like raise money and get things done. 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:27.440 Like when you watch a lot of the movies on Tubi, which I actually really enjoy, but at the same time, you do wish it was like, can we get some of these producers to work with people who know what they're doing? 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:28.000 Right. 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:29.680 Like combine forces. 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.480 Y'all know how to raise money, which is great. 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.799 Then get some people who know how to shoot this shit. 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:35.200 Uh-uh. 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:36.640 Like for real, for real. 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:37.200 Right, right. 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.079 And so, like color correcting, got the sound right. 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:42.480 Just, just, just, just, and it's simple. 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:44.160 It ain't even like rocket science. 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:48.480 Like, just let's all communicate and stop trying to like do this separate bullshit. 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:57.200 Shout out to 50 Cent, because I think that's what he's good at, which is, even though he may not be writing or directing a particular thing,

but putting the right people in position. 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.599 And just be like, hey, I'm gonna do my part, but setting up the city. 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:07.039 I mean, and I don't normally you know how I be with that eldre statesman group. 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:09.279 Um, but they do get that. 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:12.880 They do understand like the straight man sharing the ball thing. 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:16.480 So I was like, as a director, I have to give you all the credit to the world because that didn't happen. 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.079 And the shit, the movie's funny. 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.640 It's like it has and it's hard for a lot of hilarious moments. 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:28.480 And I'm like, it it took your vision to see the moments to let that go. 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:30.319 It's like, no, that's gonna be hilarious. 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.000 No, let that moment happen. 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:32.799 Let that happen. 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.200 Well, listen, man, by the time this episode drops, I feel like I want to talk, talk. 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:42.000 Yeah, the fucking Tony Baker being that character, fucking hysterical. 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:44.720 I didn't think of nobody else but this nigga. 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:46.400 You like, who look like a rat? 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:48.880 Oh my god, it wasn't even that, you know what? 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:49.920 It's just yours. 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:55.279 It was every time he's played an evil character, his delivery to that shit. 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:56.319 So true. 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:03.200 So it's like when I when me and Carl was like, because you know, we was doing the Rewrites, Carl Reed, shout out to Carl Ree who wrote the screenplay. 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:06.559 But when we was rewriting it, because you know I had to do a comedy pass of that shit. 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:08.160 A big one. 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:08.720 Yeah. 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:14.079 And uh, because you know, shout out to Carl, great writer, but yeah, should be the double. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.960 This comedy shit is just baby. 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:17.440 Yeah. 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:19.039 So I was like, hey man. 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.880 So when we started really thinking about Rat Faced Joyce, like we were stupid. 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.759 We were we were dying laughing. 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:26.160 Yeah, yeah. 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:28.240 Because I'm like, yo, this is Tony Baker. 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:32.400 So like as we was, you know, write, rewriting everything, it was like me doing, yeah. 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.519 And I'm just in tears, like, yo, this nigga, please say yes to this brother. 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.839 I can't think of nobody else, man. 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:40.559 Fuck. 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:42.400 Damn, I done sold it to myself. 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:43.839 Yeah, we don't have no backups, baby. 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:48.960 It's gotta be no, I can't think of nobody else to do this, but I can't I can only see him doing it. 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:49.440 Right. 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:50.079 Yeah. 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:58.720 Because also it was crazy because, you know, you gotta look at your budget, it's like, you know, because they're like, oh, really, you want to, you know, do some prosthetics. 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:00.160 I'm like, we can't afford that shit. 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:01.839 Like, Tony, just make a face, man. 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:02.559 Make a face. 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:04.400 Make the face. 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:10.799 I was, I was, when I tell you, I was looking at the monitor. 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.000 This motherfucker, it's so many takes up, man. 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:15.599 I was dying. 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:21.519 It's like a couple of takes where you hear me, I'm like, damn, I can't use this shit because I'm fucking back to like. 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.079 Because he's so fucking funny. 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.119 And he did it different every time. 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.519 Wait a minute, is there a way that you could I I don't know. 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:35.599 Because I always talk, I always thought about this with Martin. 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:42.000 Sometimes they gave us a couple bloopers, but is there a way that y'all can maybe are the are the tapes still saved someplace? 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:43.440 Yeah, I got we still got everything. 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:44.960 So it's just taking time. 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:52.000 Because I also I may do a director's cut because even the cut y'all seeing, it is a funnier cut than that. 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:52.319 Okay. 00:23:53.039 --> 00:24:03.599 And so some of that shit I had to like, ugh, you know, when you get, it's, you know, even though it's not a big studio, it's still other producers involved, and so everybody gotta have some say. 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:05.200 So you have to give and take something. 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:12.319 Because even with that, they wanted to cut the Rat Fay shit down, and I'm like, but I had to give something away that I really wanted. 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:12.880 Got it. 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:14.720 It's like, fuck, all right, nope, fuck that. 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:16.240 Put that back in and you can have that. 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:17.920 Yeah, compromise. 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:26.640 I wanted to know, even more importantly, like, how did y'all go about getting distribution for the be in theaters and not just end up on something like two big? 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:27.599 That was a grind. 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:28.880 So this is the thing about it. 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:29.920 Like, I had. 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:38.400 So a lot of this stuff with this movie is like, was these almost prophetic thoughts that I would have and ideals. 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.839 It's like, okay, if I cast a bunch of comedians, okay.

00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.920 Cause this thing about when we went on strike, right? 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:45.359 This is just real talk. 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:47.039 What strike? 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:48.000 Is it the right of strike or? 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:48.720 All the strikes. 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.960 It was all happening at the same time. 00:24:53.279 --> 00:25:00.960 Um at one point, I was like, I mean, it's cool to be asking for shit. 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:03.279 But why do you not want to give it to us? 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:03.680 Right. 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.640 So I wanted to understand the business side of that shit. 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:08.799 I didn't think it was all because they were evil. 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:10.640 Some of this shit was just business. 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:11.519 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:12.319 Like for real. 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.319 That's just people need to realize that all white people ain't racist. 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:16.960 That's a fact. 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.519 Some shit just comes down to dollars and cents. 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:21.759 It ain't because it ain't just white people in charge. 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.000 Yeah. 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.000 I mean, you do have a Tyler Perry studio. 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:24.559 That's a fact. 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:25.759 I think it's CP. 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:26.640 That's right. 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:40.559 I think it's CP has this hilarious video like uh he says some of the shit in my life where I thought white people was being racist, I realized it was just me being broke and not having enough money to realize that uh the inconvenience. 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:46.160 Well, that's what made the sag Astro and Writer strike, because it wasn't about black people, really. 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:50.799 It was, you know, when you think about it, for the most part, it was, you know, white on white arguments. 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:51.599 Yeah. 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:52.400 Right. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:52.960 Right. 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:54.079 You know what I mean? 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:58.480 Like, but but for me, it made me want to understand what the execs thought. 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:04.720 What, what, what was the reason why they wanted to like, excuse me, cut costs, and this is why they want to do this and do that. 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.480 So I just started hitting these execs up and just asking questions. 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:10.960 And so, because I wanted to learn the business of it. 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.640 I got very focused on learning the business of our business. 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:20.000 So even with just raising money, it was like, okay, I need to understand how to get people their return back, not just ask for it. 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:21.599 So I have a game plan. 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.039 So one of the game plans is, okay, how do we get this in theaters, right? 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:30.640 And so I started having this idea based off like Dolomite is my name, the movie, right? 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:36.160 Well, you're like, Rudy Ray Moore and those guys in that era basically saved Hollywood. 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.119 People don't know that. 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:42.720 And they went directly to the theater owners and made deals with them. 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.319 And so I'm like, wait a minute, I've been to CinemaCon before. 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:47.759 I actually got an award there. 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:48.400 Okay. 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.319 All the theater owners are there. 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.119 Should I just go there and start collecting cards? 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.519 You got AMC and Regal and all that, but they have individual owners. 00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:57.920 Right, right. 00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:59.039 Those are just franchises. 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.519 And what is that conversation at an event like that? 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:02.640 So here we go. 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.160 I'm just giving you out some steps to that. 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.880 So, like, I had this thought in my head. 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.160 So that was my plan. 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.799 One of my uh producers, Sean, hit me up. 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:16.960 He met with one of uh Imagine Theaters, a guy named Paul, I forgot Paul's last name, but he owned a bunch of them. 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:17.839 And then he sold it. 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.279 Now he's just like the CEO. 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:21.440 He's still running it, but he's he's CEO. 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:26.640 And he was just like, yo, we looking, we want to build direct relationships with the filmmaker. 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:33.839 We kind of tired of the way the big studios kind of like, you know, because you know, until maybe this summer, things was really, you know, went doing well. 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:34.480 Yeah, baby. 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:36.079 And so everybody was taking losses. 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:41.440 So the theater owners are like, man, look, we want to put in, put movies in people want to see, blah, blah, blah. 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:42.559 Let's like talk to us. 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.400 We're down if y'all come holler at us. 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:48.960 And so Sean was like, Paul said, it's these different theater groups. 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.759 They all clicked up and started their own little groups. 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:53.519 Outside of the studios and stuff. 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:59.279 Outside of just that whole little distribution, because you could hire a distribution group and then like they can. 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:00.880 Cause this this is how deep this gets. 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.200 Y'all are probably the first ones I've actually broke this shit down. 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:04.319 This is why we get that. 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.480 This is

why the audience be interested. 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:06.960 Here we go. 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:13.680 So, you know, it's like, okay, you could when I did Unexpected Christmas, oh, I didn't mean to say the damn movie. 00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:14.079 Fuck. 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:15.359 But they had distribution. 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:16.319 You want us to cut that? 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:17.279 No, you keep it. 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:18.160 It's all good. 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:27.839 Um what I noticed, I wanted to, I was noticing this is a black cast, black movie, Christmas movie, and it wasn't theaters, but where are those theaters at? 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:29.279 Yeah. 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.160 Is it where our audience would go see this fucking movie? 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:38.160 So that was another thing that I was like, okay, I I need to know exactly, we need to go to theaters in our community. 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.000 Because a lot of these distribution places is just like, yeah, look at all these theaters we got for you. 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:43.279 I'm like, nigga, where they at though? 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.079 Oh. 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.240 And so without Kansas? 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.720 Well, well, can't, but where at Kansas? 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:49.839 Which city? 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:56.960 If you say, hey, Chicago, and I'm from there, and then I look at all these theaters and they're like in the south suburbs and all this stuff. 00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.079 I'm like, ain't nothing in the city. 00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:59.119 Oh, you saying specific. 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:00.079 Oh, oh, specific. 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:00.640 Oh, that's right. 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:01.680 Know where they're at. 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.200 And so it's like, all right, let's, I want to go to the theaters in our community. 00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:05.920 Smart. 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:11.599 And so we we hooked, we linked up with various films who has been amazing. 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.160 And I, you know, we start having very specific conversations. 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.400 I'm like, look, if we do it that way, dude, we could we could hit a lick on this shit. 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.759 And so we started, when they started sending the list of theaters, I would go look. 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.119 I'll call people in Houston. 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.480 Hey man, where this at? 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.240 Is it is it where we are? 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:27.200 Is it where we are? 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:27.599 Yeah. 00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.559 And so that became very strategic too, right? 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:36.000 And so, you know, it became um all this stuff is strategy, but it I thought I was crazy. 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:45.759 I thought these game plans I came up with based off these conversations I had with the execs, because I'm like, yo, I don't want to just be, I don't want to just be talent no more. 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:46.480 Right. 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:48.880 I really want to learn all this shit. 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:54.000 Like, I I want to be wealthy by the time I'm gone so my kids can do whatever the fuck they want to. 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:54.880 Straight up. 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:55.519 You know what I mean? 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:57.200 So hold on, I'm gonna back up real quick. 00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:58.720 So you did go to Cinemacon. 00:29:58.799 --> 00:29:59.119 You did go. 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:00.160 I was, I didn't have to. 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:01.039 Oh, you didn't have to. 00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.000 Yeah, but that was the plan. 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.759 I was gonna go and collect a gang of fucking cards. 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.000 I still may do that shit, to be honest with you. 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:08.400 Right. 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:13.279 And so you had an agent or you individually reached out to these theater, this theater group. 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:14.079 I'm glad you said. 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.039 So so Paul told us about the theater groups, right? 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:17.680 This is crazy. 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.759 This is divine connections in a way. 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:26.000 And so by the time we went to Variance, Variance was like, hey, we actually know all these different groups. 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.160 We can do all that for you. 00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:29.839 So you don't have to be cold calling. 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.599 And Variance is the financier? 00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:33.039 No, they're the they're the distribution. 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:34.079 They're the distribution, okay. 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.400 But they're they're a unique company though, because they they actually help you with your marketing shit. 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.960 They have like it's it's They're connected. 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:49.119 Man, it's is all you you it's like you want to tell the other filmmakers, like, hey man, I don't know who y'all fucking with, but they really know what they're doing. 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.519 Like they know what they're doing. 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.680 And I'm talking about every single meeting. 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.759 This is the thing about it, this is why I'm grateful to my fellow producers. 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.319 You know, they could just give me the credit, and that's what it was. 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.200 They let they like real, what do you see this as? 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.240 I'm like, should be de doubos, here we go. 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.680 This is what I think we should try to do. 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:20.559 And then also, you know, it's crazy because that the next level was, you know, when you book a Carlos and touring comedians and batch, and all, I'm like, they on the road. 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:27.200 And I think we kind of missed the mark a little bit on that, and that's the whole nother

conversation. 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:34.000 But it's actually, I think the next part of that is because we did some great things with our marketing budget. 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.440 We able to, we did a lot of the clippings and uh we did some dope shit. 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.119 We did all the shit everybody doing. 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:39.279 Yeah. 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:43.839 Because we couldn't afford the billboards and the commercials on TV, so everything had to be digital. 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:44.559 You know what I'm saying? 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:45.599 And we just went all in. 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:46.720 I'm like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:47.599 Lika scene. 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:48.240 I don't give a fuck. 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:49.119 Like, make it seem like that. 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:50.559 What you mean by Mr. 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:50.880 Mark? 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.839 Like, because y'all didn't do like a tour, like y'all could have did a stand-up tour? 00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.880 Not just that, but like link with the promoters, right? 00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:57.680 Let them see. 00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:58.799 I say pay them. 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:00.960 The comedy promoter? 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.440 Not just the comedy club, no, those promoters who like you think about the uh the We the Morns tour, right? 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:05.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:13.519 I'm like, hey, I think you should contact those promoters, pay them for whatever their list is that they use to promote, because they've been selling out. 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.759 And also you're using one of their comics. 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:16.079 Yeah. 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.480 So everybody wants with this shit. 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:19.359 That's smart, bro. 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.200 So I think that's that's another thing that that's a part of my. 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:24.799 Well, yeah, you it's unique thinking, though. 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:26.240 You out of the box with it. 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:28.799 It's real, it's collabing and relationship. 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.440 We all should be able to do this shit, this full circle thing. 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.440 Yeah, especially with those the fact that they're already connected to the project. 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:36.000 Exactly. 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.039 Like yeah. 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:47.759 Now, creatively, once the movie's happening, how do how do you understand when to reel and let the comics go? 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:48.799 Because there's so many moments. 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:56.640 That shit with Batch, when Batch is supposed to be in the seance with everybody else and that nigga jump out as a next part of the city. 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.920 It takes a comic to understand that this is okay. 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.279 It's like, bro, how how creatively did you get that shit was hilarious, bro? 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:15.519 You know what I took from Jordan Peel that was brilliant when we did get out, is he let me ride, man. 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.359 I did whatever he wanted me to do. 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.680 And he's like, all right, do a rail take. 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:26.400 And because he let me do that, I trust, I you'll do whatever a director tell you at that point. 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.039 He's like, man, because I know I'm gonna get an opportunity to fuck around. 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:29.599 Yeah. 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:30.480 You know what I'm saying? 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.440 And so for me, I was like, okay, what does that look like if I give all of them that opportunity? 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:37.920 You know what I'm saying? 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:50.880 And so it's times where I just, you know, and and honestly, strategically, I did cast Batch is a brilliant comedic actor and actor in general and comic and all that because he knows how to come back to it. 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:51.599 Yeah. 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.720 You know, because you like you say, it could be the wild, wild west. 00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.160 People can't go wild, but it is like somebody, you could tell who got the skill set to bring it back. 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:00.480 Yeah. 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.160 When they got that, you say, brother, shoe biddy double bows, do your thing. 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.440 If I'm if we miss something, we'll go back. 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:14.320 But for the honesty, throughout that movie, like, and then like, you know, with me, I know how to play off everybody. 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:14.719 Right. 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:21.280 It's a scene in uh when I first get to the house, and Louis's, I was like, Yeah, we were fucking kids. 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.480 He's like, fucking kids, bro. 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.840 And Carlos just said this shit. 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:27.039 That's why I was like, what? 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.000 And I just went with him. 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:28.880 Yeah, that was great. 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:29.679 That was a great scene. 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:30.719 You understand what I'm saying? 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.480 Those little things like that. 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:39.360 And for me as an actor, I've always wanted to be in scenes with motherfuckers like that. 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.920 I bounce off whatever you say. 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.079 And like, you know, being a director of it too, it's like, do whatever you want. 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.079 I get us back, I'm in here with y'all. 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:48.639 Yeah. 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:51.280 Not that was great. 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.960 Where did the directorial inspiration come from? 00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:56.079 You know something? 00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:01.199 Uh, and it's interesting too, because this is this is on some black shit too, in a way, right? 00:35:01.280 -->

00:35:11.039 Where like certain jobs felt almost, you know, I love TV and film, but coming up, I didn't think I could do a Spielberg or Lucas or any of these guys did. 00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.840 I feel like you had to be a certain person to do that, you know. 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:22.079 And it wasn't until we was doing Friends of the People, the sketch series I did on True TV with the Lucas Brothers and them, Bob Cal Goldwaite was one of our uh directors. 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:22.800 Wow. 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.039 And I wrote a sketch, and he was like, all right, so how you want to shoot this? 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.760 I'm like, I don't know, you the director, you know, it's whatever you want to do. 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.039 He's like, no, you wrote it. 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:32.000 What's your vision? 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:33.199 What's your vision? 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:40.480 I was like, I mean, so we started doing it and we did it, and he was like, Man, dude, I think you'll be really great at directing. 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:42.159 And I was like, for real? 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.719 He's like, Yeah, you ain't never thought about that. 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.800 I was like, No. 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:47.840 He's like, no, real. 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:49.280 That's you can tell that's your thing. 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:50.559 You got the eye for that shit. 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.639 And he put that battery in my back first. 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.280 And from that point on, it was like it started, I started watching things differently because of that shit. 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:05.360 I'm I mean, for sure, I if I know the producing thing was there, because I don't think this it didn't come from you. 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:17.199 But I heard from multiple people when Rail was on that you were a stickler about about black shit, about comedy shit, about how people were being treated. 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:18.559 Like it was a thing on this set. 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:20.880 It's like you're not gonna treat my people fucked up. 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.719 We gonna do the shit a certain way. 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.760 It has to be clear on how it's gonna be done. 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:29.519 It was comedy shit, black shit, and treating people right. 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:30.239 It was like a thing. 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.000 It was like, let me tell you something on this set. 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:33.920 And they real ain't playing about none of that shit. 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:35.840 Like, it was a thing about that. 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.679 So Yeah, let's talk about real. 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:38.320 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.280 How is that happening when you have this opportunity for the show? 00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.280 And because it's a let me tell you what it takes. 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:50.639 It takes gall to have the opportunity and look people in the face that's supposed

to be the decision makers and say, nah, fuck all that. 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:51.920 Yeah, we not doing it like that. 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:52.719 You know what's funny? 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.559 What you told them white people on there? 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.599 I was very that, but I don't know if it was always right. 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:00.320 Okay. 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:01.440 That's where I'm at now. 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.519 Like I that was my damn dad shit. 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.519 I I would be saying all this shit and put up. 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.280 Give us a give us a ton. 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.840 Give us a ton of real niggas think that when you was giving the when you was giving the putting down the low. 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.079 When you say, yeah, I may have been too much. 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.719 Because when I heard it, it was all in the most beautiful way. 00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.400 Everybody, I know they were gonna say, like, man, we was a lot of people fuck with it. 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:23.519 And it wasn't bad. 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.719 It's just like, I wish I would have had a Gerard approach approach to it. 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.519 Because Gerard was there too, but he wasn't the way I did it. 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:34.719 My shit was like hip hop rama rama, west side of Chicago, yeah, Black Panther, yeah. 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:36.159 Here we go. 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:39.119 She woman the woman. 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.039 Like maybe like a recognize of a face. 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.119 Yeah, it was stuff like that. 00:37:53.360 --> 00:38:00.320 And so, you know, but it wasn't, it was, it was a lot of that shit. 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:01.519 When was an incident? 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:02.639 What what particular incident? 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.719 It was when they wanted, they was like, just wanted to wear different hairstyles. 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.880 And they was like, why would she not want to wear the hair that's on the billboard? 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:12.079 They're not gonna recognize her. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.480 I was like, what? 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.280 I mean, the stuff I used to say to like the head of Fox was kind of wild. 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:27.280 Even with like, this, I guess we here now, but I remember like with a pilot, we was still waiting on to be picked up or whatever. 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:33.599 And they try to get so you see our main cast was black. 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:34.159 Okay. 00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.239 They called Gerard, because you know Gerard produced it. 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.119 And uh they was like, hey, real, I know you're gonna be irritated, but here you go, here we go. 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:43.679 Here we go. 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:51.840 They want to add a white guy as a main give us one. 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:59.360 And they was like, they was like, and Gerard was like, hey, I told them they're gonna have to call you. 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:00.320 They're gonna call you. 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:02.000 I'm just telling you what's gonna happen. 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.639 What's you know what the call is gonna be. 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.440 And I said what I said. 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:16.079 I was like, look, if y'all do that, I'm going to tell everybody that y'all made me do that shit. 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.039 And honestly, I'm not gonna do that. 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:20.079 This nigga's gonna do that. 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.119 So if you don't pick up the show, I'll never forget that moment. 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:24.800 That was a moment. 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.760 Because I was like, I was like, man, I don't know if the show is gonna be picked up. 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:34.239 I thought we did a great pilot, but if that's gonna be the reason why we that's what I said. 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.679 If that's gonna be the reason why, because I'm not gonna do that. 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:38.800 We're not doing that. 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:39.599 Sorry. 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:40.719 This is the show. 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:41.440 This is the show. 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:46.000 But if you don't pick me up because of that shit, I'm telling everybody. 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:47.280 I'm letting people know. 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:48.800 And that's what y'all did. 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.239 Who God damn, and that's a clip. 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:54.000 No, so listen, no floor. 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:55.039 Shout out to Fox for doing it. 00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:56.480 All right, we got it. 00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:57.760 This is something that I wanted to know. 00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.639 It was a thing, though. 00:39:58.719 --> 00:39:59.599 That shit was crazy. 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:00.880 Everybody's like, man. 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.199 I was like, well, I guess I ain't got no show. 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.320 I remember jumping in my car, like, back to the road I go. 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:09.039 But you stood on it. 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:11.280 You said step out on fake easy, here we go. 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:17.840 So yeah, piggybacking on what he's asking about, like, so what was the biggest learning lesson that you got from the city? 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:19.840 I think I was too militant sometimes. 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.599 I think I was just, I felt angry, and everything was a fight. 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.599 And everything didn't have to be that. 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.960 And also I think I put too much pressure on myself to create something for our people. 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.280 What I've learned is, man, you gotta create whatever you create. 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:34.880 You ain't gonna be able to please everybody. 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:35.360 That's right. 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.320 Whatever your creative thought is about this shit, just do that. 00:40:38.480 -->

00:40:43.199 Like, I for me, I pressured myself, like, okay, I want this to be the black sitcom and this and that. 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.119 And just I was just, it was just a lot. 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.880 And honestly, it, you know, damn it drove me crazy almost. 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:58.079 I had to like Gerard, Kevin Barnett, Rest in Peace, and Josh Rabena, which who I created the show with, them niggas damn had to give me an intervention. 00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.920 Cause it was so much pressure. 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.440 I was so fucking depressed. 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:02.400 I was it was a lot. 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.960 Which episode were you on when you felt like you was really hitting your breaking point? 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.960 Because I know that shit could build. 00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.159 Well, it depends, though. 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.840 It wasn't breaking point, it was just so I was too emo- I was so emotionally attached. 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:19.039 Like the episode I did about my mom, that shit, that was a crazy week. 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.519 I I like it was I was just losing my fuck because I had to relive that shit. 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.840 I remember having my kids on set because I had my son play little me. 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.719 And even Vanessa Bell Calloway, that's why I love her so much. 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.559 Let me tell you the black women on that set, them hugs, they held you down, they knew I was fucked up. 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.599 And man, shout out to Janice, man. 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.280 She was she was our prop person. 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.800 And it wasn't even just that moment, damn, that's weird. 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:55.679 Maybe you feel all emotional about it, but like it was times that like I felt so much pressure I was putting on myself, and she's like, look, I ain't I know I ain't supposed to do this. 00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:56.320 Come here. 00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:57.599 And just brushed back. 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.000 And just gave me a hug, and I fucking broke down. 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.519 Like black women, boy. 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.840 Just the moms, man. 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:11.679 You know, Vanessa did that shit the same way, you know, and you know, my daughter being out sitting on when it's a picture I have of her just hugging me. 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.079 And those hugs were so important, man. 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:20.880 And if just even Sinbad, like, the way Sinbad had my back about everything was so fucking dope, man. 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.400 And and what way uh what did he express to you that let you know? 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:27.119 He like, man, real because he saw me fight for a lot of things. 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.280 Like, man, if that's what you want to do, I got you. 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:30.320 I'm with you. 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:32.239 And I'm like, damn. 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:33.199 That's what I didn't realize. 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:43.920 I didn't realize how real of a nigga Sinbad was until you know I was on the show and just him having my back, pulling me to the side, sitting with me. 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.000 Hey man, whatever you want to do, I got you. 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:49.440 I'm like, damn, that's why I was lucky with that. 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.719 I had some great people attached to do that with. 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:54.719 See, that's not by happenstance. 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:55.440 Man, it really was. 00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.960 He was so specific about who you wanted on the show and who you saw as the person. 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:14.559 So, like, when all these things come together, you had built, like uh subconsciously or consciously, you have built the people that you needed there to catch you when you know what I mean, when when it when shit got real, bro. 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:15.679 And I learned a lot. 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.000 Once again, I could have done everything better. 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.199 And I'm like, I'm such a better leader now because of real. 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.199 And I had to own a lot of stuff, bro. 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.360 Like I had to own, you know what I mean? 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.079 Like the amount of times, you know, people know I love the dime. 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.559 I was there damn near every night after that shit. 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.840 I leave the office, I'll be there for hours and then go straight to the dime. 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:34.719 I used to hear stories. 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:36.320 You know, Lil Rail was at the dime. 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.559 Every damn day, but you know, that's that wasn't necessarily smart, like kind of drinking anxiety away. 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:42.880 You know what I mean? 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:48.559 Who do you who do you go to for clarity of ideas? 00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:59.519 You like, man, I you you got an idea, whether whether to stand up on the producing side, directing side, writing side, you like, yo, I just need somebody outside of me that you can. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.239 Whose voice you can who whose voice do you trust? 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:03.760 I got different people, man. 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:05.440 And over time it's been different people. 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:11.199 Like the great thing is about Friends of the People, the sketch series, that you know, we all produced and wrote that shit. 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:12.400 We were the writers wrong. 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:13.920 The cast. 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:14.480 Wow. 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.079 And we were the producers. 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.639 So it was like learning on the job type shit. 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:24.320 That was the first time I learned how to do that and share ideals and those all those brilliant minds of that show. 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:28.239 That's why

when you watch seeing everybody doing what they doing, I ain't shocked. 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.599 You know what I'm saying? 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.000 We all was like, it was a special motherfuckers. 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.440 And then by the time I got real, you know, like I said, I went to it's crazy. 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:43.679 The crazy thing about doing real was at the same time, JJ Abrams and Jordan Peel approached me about a brilliant show idea. 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:48.000 That took now I'd be like, dang, maybe I should have did that first and then did my own show. 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:49.519 But it was a great idea. 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.800 I was like, ah, thank y'all, but I want to try this on my own first. 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:54.880 It's too late to circle back for that? 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:55.679 Probably. 00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:57.760 You gotta be on shit. 00:44:58.239 --> 00:44:59.039 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? 00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.800 It was a great idea, but uh, shout out to them for even thinking of me for that. 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:04.480 That would have been a game changer, honestly. 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:05.360 Okay. 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:13.280 Because one of my questions for you was, because I I hear you, I see you speaking out on social media and just hearing what you just said. 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:17.920 And I saw how Ryan Clark got fired from ESPN. 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:33.760 And I don't know if y'all watched the episode about on the pivot, but he was saying like he he thought he had accomplished so much that he could say what he wanted to say and do what he wanted to do without basically being fired. 00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.199 And I I have a strong theory that everybody's replaceable. 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:50.320 No, and so to that point, in your career, do you ever feel like, or have you felt like being too black has impeded on your career? 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:51.039 100%. 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.639 And sometimes you're too black to other black people. 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.079 That's a fact. 00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:57.280 You know what I'm saying? 00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.920 So like the white people gonna hear us. 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:05.519 I've had people say shit to me like that on set before, and I'm like, man, don't bring that shit around me with that. 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.000 I'm just telling you, it's just it's the honesty God truth. 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.519 So I've I've, you know, but uh but once again, let me say this though. 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:14.800 I have learned to do everything a lot better, though. 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:25.599 Because, you know, for me it was a lot, everything was happening so fast at one point, and I'm from the stand-up world, the amount of I don't give a fuck it really existed with me. 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:38.639 That's why sometimes when I watch other people do interviews about, you know, when they talking

about what comics have done and who sold out and did this shit and what they would do, but like, nigga, you never been in that position. 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.960 So how you know what you would do? 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:41.360 Right. 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:42.719 Until you did it. 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.679 And some of us, and I know for me, I did that. 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:52.800 Like I've stood up and said this, and it look, it comes with some fucking yeah, it comes with some consequences. 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:53.679 You know what I'm saying? 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.199 And it's different versions of that shit. 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.119 I've done so many different versions of it. 00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:03.280 So I've learned to like still be me, but try to, you know, it without the rah-rah of it. 00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:05.760 That's what I love about Gerard Carmichael, man. 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:16.639 That dude, to me, the way he leads and gets shit done and still have his blackness attached to it, that people don't even think about that when they think about him, it's fucking brilliant. 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:23.519 I've seen him tell a head of a network or a head of a studio, like, yo, this is what I want to do, but it wasn't without, it wasn't with the rah-rah. 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.199 It still had that that shit to it, but it was brilliantly said. 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.199 I wonder if that's what what Jay season in, what Jay-Z season in. 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.480 That show you how the room move in a room full of vultures. 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.159 Like, cause because they they they have a kinship and an understanding between each other. 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.400 And when you see them niggas talking, yeah, well, you know, I've been around that. 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:43.920 Jay and Gerard. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.760 I've seen people get jealous. 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:46.559 Yeah. 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:54.880 Like, we'll be all in the room, and you know, Jay come in, everybody running up OJ, all these other stars, and he'd be like, oh, Gerard, and just start talking to him. 00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.559 And niggas be just standing outside the circle trying to jump in whenever they can. 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.400 But you see, them niggas is talking, they they on the same wavelength and shit. 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:05.519 You know what I'm saying? 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:10.320 And so, like, you know, I I'll stand up sometimes, I'll just be looking at these niggas trying to jump rope, crack it up. 00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:12.159 Look at these niggas trying to jump in. 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:14.960 I was gonna ask that too. 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.519 Like, what's a room that you found yourself in that you were amazed that you were in? 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:24.320 And then what was and like and did you pick up any game from being in a room like that? 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.320 Man, it's been a

quite a few of them. 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.079 You know, once again, Jay. 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:37.119 Um, I've been able to be around that thing and Beyonce and you know, Miss Tina and all of them. 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:38.480 And so you and those rooms. 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.320 And I remember so this is so funny. 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.480 Like, the first time I saw Black Panther, I thought it was like a screening. 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.159 Like, you know how we go to screenings all the time? 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.039 Like a real like public, not public screening, but like, you know, invite whatever. 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.960 I get there and I'm like, oh, this is like the IMAX building or something. 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:55.599 What the fuck is this? 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.519 But I'm like, eh, maybe other people coming. 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.320 And so I'm there, like, wait a minute, is this a private, private thing? 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:03.119 Nah, what I'm telling you that part is because I invited Hannibal. 00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:03.679 Okay. 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:04.880 Because I just thought it was just some. 00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:11.360 And so I'm like, oh, wait a minute, this is this is private, private. 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.239 Oh shit. 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:13.440 How many people? 00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.440 Wait, what's the size of the theater abruptly? 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.719 It's not even a it's at the IMAX office. 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:19.840 Okay, now that's different. 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.639 And it's Ryan Kugler and his wife showing this too. 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.639 I didn't know what the fuck I was coming to. 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.400 I'm like, what the fuck? 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:26.880 Oh shit. 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:33.679 Because Shaka invited me, Shaka Pilgrim, uh, who's who works, you know, Rock Nation, and Shaka invited me. 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.519 So she didn't explain to me. 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.159 I didn't, I've never been to no exclusive shit like that. 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.159 So I thought, I'm like, oh shit. 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.440 So as I see like Khaled sitting there, Keith comes in. 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:44.559 DJ Khaled? 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:44.800 Yeah. 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.079 Uh Jay-Z and Beyonce comes in. 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:51.679 Enough people that you can count. 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:58.079 No, it was about eight of us, and then Hannibal's knocking on the door, and they was like, yo, who invited? 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:01.519 I did. 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.599 I thought this was like a popcorn regularly. 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:07.599 Like one of them screens at the London type of thing. 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:07.920 Yeah. 00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:11.840 I didn't know this was like a they exclusively showing us. 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.000 And then we're gonna have a conversation after that. 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:15.360 So they let Hannibal in. 00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:21.360 But it was just uh, that's the first time I met Miss Tina was there because I sat right I sat next to her, and it was crazy. 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.760 We watched Black Panther, and then afterwards, Ryan, it literally was just us. 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:26.800 Like, so what y'all think? 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.639 And I'm just sitting there like, wow. 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.599 And like Jay and Beyonce saying that stuff. 00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.519 And I'm just like, what the fuck was I invited to? 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.280 They gotta invite me the shit up. 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:42.320 He had a plus one. 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:44.400 But you know what's funny? 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.519 I I you know, Miss Tina had left her photo to see and I gave it to Jay. 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.360 Like, Miss Tina's like, man, she always doing that. 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.920 But that's Miss Tina, we were sitting next to each other talking, that's how we became cool, really. 00:50:54.079 --> 00:51:01.679 And the next, I think the next week after that's when Robbie Reed hit me up and said, Hey, Miss Tina wants you to host her wearable gala. 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:03.360 I'm like, what? 00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.159 Just off that interaction, we're just chilling watching Black Panther together? 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:06.880 Like here. 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:11.760 Yeah, that shit was I've been so I've been in some very interesting, like that was fucking crazy. 00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:16.159 Cause I was like, oh, I didn't know, I thought this was like a I don't know what the fuck. 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.320 I didn't know it was gonna be like private, private. 00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:23.599 Okay, I I have to ask this because you you've figured this out in a totally different way. 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:30.079 How have you transitioned your position? 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:38.239 So, okay, boom, I'm a comic, I'm hilarious, yada yada, yada, boom, I get some TV credits, or I get an opportunity in this film, I destroy that shit, hot. 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:55.199 But then the navigation to go from that to uh I got my own TV show to directing, producing, being able to pitch ideas, being how outside of your brilliance, brilliance as a talent, how do you navigate bouncing? 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.920 You are just did your directorial debut. 00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.719 You could have just been acting, you could have just keep doing shows. 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.559 There's a bunch of different ways to do this. 00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.400 How did you navigate that? 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.519 It's from the beginning of stand-up, right? 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:09.840 Learning to be your own promoter early. 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:17.119 Marcus King, uh, who used to be Jamie Foxx's manager, they used to do Jamie Foxx's Laugh of Palooza. 00:52:17.280 -->

00:52:18.480 That's what me and Carlos met. 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:20.159 It's early 2000s. 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:21.440 That shit was funny, too, bro. 00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.280 We was all new faces and shit. 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.239 All of us, a group of mispat, all of us was a bunch of new faces. 00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:27.119 I think I was heard that there. 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:27.599 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:28.719 Jamie Fox Laughs. 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:29.039 You probably was. 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:30.960 Dion Cole did one too, didn't he? 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:31.360 Back in the day. 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:32.400 They was all on the big show. 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:33.280 We were new faces. 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:34.719 Yeah, we just didn't hang it out. 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:35.599 We were new faces. 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.400 Like we like we was we was performing at Uptown. 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:40.159 We wasn't on the big show. 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:40.800 In Atlanta. 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:41.760 Yeah, in Atlanta. 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:43.039 Gang of us. 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.440 Which is why a lot how a lot of us met earlier. 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.000 Like, this like 2001, 2002. 00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:49.440 This shit was early as hell. 00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:56.639 And he's I went to all those uh panels with a notebook. 00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.239 I took that shit serious. 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.840 Even everybody was bullshitting, I wrote down what the fuck I heard. 00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.800 And Marcus King was like, hey man, let me tell you something. 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:10.880 The best way to get it cracking in this business is to learn to be the motherfucking man in your city. 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.360 That means either, you know, you either get your own room, you do all. 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.280 So him telling me that I heard that shit. 00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.519 And then that became my goal. 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:26.320 I went back to Chicago, like, I mean, I know you vets are here, but nigga, I'm about to figure this shit out. 00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:27.360 Wednesday nights, Joke's. 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:29.119 And at the time, who was a vets at that time? 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:30.159 Man, you had D. 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:31.599 Ray, you had Damon. 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:33.440 Because D-Ray was also somebody I learned from. 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.599 That's how I learned how to do, to be a promoter. 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.599 D-Ray, to me, is the greatest comedic promoter ever, to me. 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:40.719 And why is that? 00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:45.119 Because his promoting style helped party promoters. 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.920 These niggas started throwing the best parties based on what this nigga was doing. 00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:55.519 His style, even the flyer man, he was the first nigga to pay this nigga who became the flyer. 00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.079 Like, D-Ray was fucking brilliant at marketing. 00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.280 This nigga was able to make enough money in Chicago so he could sponsor his LA career. 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:06.239 Wow. 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:07.599 And what way though? 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.239 What was he doing that was that you felt was different? 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:15.199 Man, the motherfucker just was making sure he made a gang of money every Sunday in Chicago. 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:16.880 He just knew how to hustle. 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.679 I think he took whatever street hustle he had, which is interesting. 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:25.920 Like, D-Ray is a lot like Jay-Z in that way to me, where like they understood how to bring that shit over to this shit. 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:27.840 And D did that shit. 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.719 And like, you know, we came up under him, me, Michi, and Wildcat. 00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.679 He gave us the nickname Laugh Lab, the Last Laugh Troop. 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.800 That's who D-Ray gave us as some marketing shit so he could put us on the flyer. 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:38.639 So we could pass out flyers. 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.320 I used to go to the club with him and sit out there and pass out flyers. 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:42.960 You know what I'm saying? 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:44.559 Like that shit, that's how I learned. 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.960 I started learning the business shit really early. 00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:54.079 And then like by the time Mary Lindsay opened up Jokes and Notes, which Dion Cole was adamant, like, Ray nigga, you need to come up with that. 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.400 I've been listening to this all that nigga. 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:18.480 He did it. 00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:19.599 He did it somebody else early. 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:20.639 I was impressed with it. 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.639 Weirdly enough, it's a sleeping skill, so I only do it when I feel like it. 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.719 But so, you know, it's it's good, man. 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:35.920 It's I get the jokes and notes, and Mary just started taking me under her wing because she saw how professional I was and how hungry. 00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.880 And she started putting me on business shit. 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.119 And that's when she gave me what that do Wednesday. 00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.360 I took an open mic and that shit was like a fuck. 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:44.960 You would have thought it was a book night. 00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:46.000 Let me tell you something. 00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:46.559 Wow. 00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:55.360 I don't know if y'all know or not, but I'm telling you right now, that Wednesday night with Lil Rail was a thing. 00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:56.800 It was a moment. 00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:58.800 It was not in just Chicago. 00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:00.800 Everybody in the country knew about it. 00:56:00.960 -->

00:56:10.559 Because if you know, like based on what you said with the Marcus King thing, whoever has the room in the city, that's who everybody gotta come see, even if you don't live there. 00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:11.599 When they tap in. 00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:13.199 Yeah, so you're traveling a comedy. 00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.800 When you at one point in time in Atlanta, it was Sean Larkins. 00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:18.239 In Houston, it was Ali. 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.000 And in Chicago, Wednesday night was the show. 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.280 It was packed in that bitch. 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:30.880 Every Wednesday, lying out the door, all the baddest bitches, the drug dealers. 00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.360 I tell you, nigga, firsthand, I was there. 00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:34.639 So let me tell you something about. 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:35.760 Couldn't I get up? 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:37.440 But I was there. 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:38.079 I was there. 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:45.360 The secret was Thursday to Tuesday, that's when my space was cracking. 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.960 I was on that motherfucker messaging nothing but women. 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:55.440 I printed up some comedy CDs, got them printed up, and gave it to girls leaving the club. 00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.440 That's how confident I was about comedy. 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.440 It was like, come to what that do Wednesday. 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.000 Here's a free CD, throw this in. 00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.719 And then I knew, for me, I didn't, I never repeated a bit. 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:09.840 I freestyled every motherfucking week. 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.719 By the time I did my first comedy album, whatever, that was just the best of Wednesday night. 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.119 I took the bits that everybody loved the bows. 00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:18.559 It was like, all right, should be the double bow. 00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:19.440 That's what I'll make this thing. 00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:20.239 You know what I mean? 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:26.880 So even just gaining that muscle of like whatever my week was is what I'm going on stage with on Wednesday. 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.360 And seeing where it goes. 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:39.440 I it's so much shit that I did that I didn't know where the fuck it was gonna go, but I was a character and let the character take over, and you just have fun with that shit, and just whatever that shit was, you know. 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.679 Is that where the hood red chick was born? 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.679 Damn, that's a great question. 00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.880 Yeah, that's where that's where it went to a whole nother level. 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:49.039 How much you want to fight niggas for doing this? 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:50.480 How much you want to fight niggas? 00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:57.360 Well, it's like I can't even get mad at it because the way I describe the joke, I told niggas how to do it.

00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:58.159 Yeah. 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.000 So it's on me. 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:01.440 I told you how to do it. 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:08.719 You did you said something just now, and I don't want it to be overlooked. 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.920 Because I've heard you say this in an interview, and I want to know how true this is. 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.039 Yo, HBO special where you're wearing the red suit. 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.159 What's the name of that one? 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:17.760 Uh shit. 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:18.639 That's my favorite one. 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.320 Damn, what the fuck is the name of that one? 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:20.960 I can't think of it. 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:21.599 That's hilarious. 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.960 You said you freestyled that whole special. 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:25.440 Yeah. 00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:26.480 An hour. 00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:27.280 Yeah. 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:28.719 You freestyle that. 00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:30.159 I do that all the time. 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.480 Everybody, stop what you're doing right now. 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.559 Make sure you subscribe to Killin' the Pie. 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:35.199 Boom. 00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:36.960 This nigga's low-key like the Jay-Z. 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:38.559 Wait a minute, wait, wait, so wait. 00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:42.480 For the audience, so they say coming to the stage, Loretta. 00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.920 I didn't have time to tour anything because I was shooting the Christmas. 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:47.440 I did back-to-back movies. 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:47.679 Okay. 00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.000 And I knew I wanted to do this HBO special. 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:57.199 So I was like, and the HBO was very, that's why we don't have another HBO special, because them niggas like, man, look, we watch everybody else set. 00:58:57.360 --> 00:58:58.079 So what makes you special? 00:58:58.159 --> 00:58:59.760 What the fuck has I been doing this long enough? 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:00.320 Yeah. 00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.119 I mean, we take us back. 00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:06.719 They bring Rail coming to the state. 00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:07.360 The audience. 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:09.280 Ha ha ha! You grabbed the mic and then what? 00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:10.559 It's funny that time too. 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:12.800 I did like a fake tape for that one. 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.400 I don't even know what the fuck I gave up. 00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:15.599 Like, yeah, this is the special. 00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.599 And I did a whole none of that shit. 00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:18.800 What you mean? 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:19.440 Wait a minute. 00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:20.800 Rail, you're skipping parts. 00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:22.400 We want to get to the Sonic. 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.679 Cause I I just think about it. 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:33.199 I knew that I, one of my best of Little Real comedy

was coming back to Jokes and Notes sometimes when I've been shooting stuff, movies. 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:37.119 I would always come back like, Mary, I need a night to just go on stage and just fucking. 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.400 Fletch all this random shit that's in my head. 00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:46.800 And so she would let me do that, but then Jokes and Notes was closed, so I decided to do that as a special. 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.159 I already had the muscle. 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:48.559 Yeah. 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.760 I already had the muscle, it's already what it is, right? 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.960 And I've been talking to Sinbad about that because he's like, man, that's all I do. 00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:55.920 That's all Sinbad. 00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:57.280 Every special was that, real? 00:59:57.360 --> 00:59:57.920 I'm like, damn. 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.559 And I've been watching this nigga like on stage for like three hours. 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:02.239 Like, that's why I gotta go see him now. 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.639 Cause I fascinated to see like the way his. 01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:06.079 He slept on, man. 01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.039 And so, yeah, I did that whole. 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.480 It was funny, I had Rito Brown and Jay Alexander, who my two homies were. 01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:15.679 Very funny, both of them. 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.760 Flew them out so we can go through what I did the first show. 01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:23.280 I was like, that first show was extremely winged. 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:25.920 So I don't know what the fuck. 01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:30.159 And because I have a way of just pacing myself where I could go to the next thing. 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:30.960 It's kind of weird. 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:32.639 So you did two shows. 01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:34.159 You did a Friday and a Saturday? 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:35.199 No, same day. 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:35.840 Same. 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:36.400 Oh, shh. 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.320 But y'all just need to go back to at least maybe touch some of the stuff that I think. 01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.679 No, we just we just talked in between because they know they've been on the road with me. 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:44.880 They know how my brain works. 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:45.280 Yeah. 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:46.800 They can give me something really quick. 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:48.559 Like, and not, it's not even real notes. 01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:50.000 It's like this is what you said. 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.760 Reminding you of the kids say that. 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:54.400 Yeah, I did. 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:55.360 Oh, that's funny. 01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:57.199 And then honestly, I invited them. 01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:58.480 It wasn't even just about that. 01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:02.400 Like, I just wanted two niggas I like to laugh with backstage with me. 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.840 So we did the first show, before the first show, we just laughed. 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.719 It wasn't nobody else back there, wasn't no big fanfare. 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:09.440 You know what I'm saying? 01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.119 I had like a setup for my family downstairs at Chicago Theater. 01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:14.559 And just even that, right? 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.000 I didn't even have a comic open. 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:17.440 I had Crucial Conflict open. 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:18.559 I wanted some shit like Richard. 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:20.400 Uh Crucial Conflict. 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:22.960 And the crowd went crazy. 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:24.559 So now they all hype. 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:29.199 And then I had like my boy Truth, who I had composed the movie Hunted Heights. 01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:29.599 Oh, wow. 01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:32.079 He was a producer, MC in Chicago. 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:36.480 I said, man, I got this track in my head, like the doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.599 And then we did a real chant, him and his wife and his kids and the shit. 01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.039 That's who do the chant for me. 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.119 It was, I'm a very specific guy. 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:45.599 Yeah. 01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:46.480 You know what I mean? 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:47.440 I'm very specific. 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:55.280 I like if I had the vision for, if I could be real with y'all, a lot of times, the reason why I don't even have to rehearse the specials, I dream it first. 01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:00.800 I have a dream of doing it and be like, dang, I can't remember exactly what I did. 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:02.239 I did the setting dream. 01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:04.000 It was like, all right, I'm ready. 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.159 That's when you know you're addicted to comedy when you start keeping a notepad by the by the bill. 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:09.199 Like, nigga, wait the fuck? 01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:10.320 That shit is hilarious. 01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:11.360 But you don't write shit down, dude. 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:12.079 I didn't write it down. 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:12.239 Nah. 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:13.519 I'm telling you this nigga like Jay-Z. 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:21.920 Until that point, though, what stops you from dropping a special every weekend like Josh Johnson? 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:23.679 I don't have time to do that shit. 01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:25.119 Like, I'm actually on the show. 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.840 And I'm actually doing exactly what I how wanted to do. 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:35.519 I told people, I was like, the dream for me is the goal for me was always to be successful. 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.519 I could do stand up when I felt like it. 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.440 And that's what it's been. 01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.599 It's like I sometimes I'll be like, I'm cool, and I just want to write and work on other stuff. 01:02:43.760 -->

01:02:46.639 Like, because I've I've been definitely in my script bag now. 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:53.119 Like, even just the next thing I'm about to do, I'm directing, producing, starring in, and I wrote it with my co-writer Ari. 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.960 And uh, you know, I'm in, I'm, I'm in a whole nother bag now. 01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:00.480 Like, I'm, you know, and I want to connect with other comics. 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.119 Like, you know, me and Ali Sadiq is trying to figure this shit out. 01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:04.159 You know what I'm saying? 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:06.320 And that motherfucker got great ideas. 01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:07.840 Me and 85 South. 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.840 I want to, you know, I'm I'm hoping Honey Heist gives them everybody an example. 01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:13.119 Like, give me the keys. 01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:14.159 I got y'all. 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:14.639 Yeah. 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:16.000 Let's fucking go. 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:18.719 Nate Jackson, whoever the fuck, right? 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:19.840 Hit me up. 01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:21.760 I'm not gonna bullshit you. 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:23.360 And I don't bullshit. 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.159 I try, I'm like, all right, y'all wanna do this, and let's go. 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.800 I don't like all these meetings and talking and shit. 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:29.840 Let's fucking go. 01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:30.480 Put it in. 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:31.280 Let's do it. 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.039 What's your pro So what's your process? 01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:50.559 And and for for you guys, as far as on the script side, you have an idea, but walk us through what that process is of getting it from your brain with you, Justin, getting it from your brain to is it then just you throw you throughout the story, then uh outline. 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:55.039 What's what's the process of actually getting it from your brain to say, okay, this is a script. 01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:57.039 It's a couple ways you can do it, right? 01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:04.559 Like, so with the thing we're about to shoot now, I was sitting on it for a long time, a couple years mentally. 01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:11.440 And then I had and uh shout out to Shantae, uh my assistant. 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.039 Her amazing daughter already became our writer's assistant. 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.360 And then now we're writing partners. 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:18.239 Wow. 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:19.760 Because she's fucking brilliant. 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:20.559 How old is she? 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:22.000 Early 20s. 01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:23.199 Oh, shoot, that's perfect. 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:24.239 She in her bag already. 01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:25.679 Man, she's fucking brilliant. 01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:26.719 She's very organized. 01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:31.360 And like even with Hunter Heights, that's who was on the phone with me every single night when I was doing

rewrites. 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:36.960 Because I did rewrites every night because Carlos and Batch and Tiff and everybody was giving me different shit. 01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.679 They kept giving dope shit while I wanted to adjust to that. 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:41.840 I'm like, man, the shit they doing. 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:43.199 Fuck this shit we wrote. 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:46.079 Like, let's change it. 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:47.679 Oh, well, hold on on the process though. 01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:49.199 So it's just different. 01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:50.239 So it's just different. 01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:57.199 So, like, with that, like with the thing I'm about to do now, I created uh a visual Bible first for me. 01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:59.119 You know, this one's so personal. 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:02.960 Like, I had to like call my family to send pictures for certain things. 01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:09.039 I created this beautiful lookbook that makes me see it first, like, oh shit, this is gonna be beautiful. 01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:14.800 And then the way I wanted to do it, I you know, as we script, because we just finished writing this the six episodes. 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:16.559 And it's so fucking funny. 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:21.679 But it's and but I have moments where I have an idea for something like this, one of the rom-com ideas. 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:22.559 I just start writing it. 01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:24.639 I don't even outline it, I don't do shit. 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:28.880 I just start fucking, because it's fresh in my brain, she be the dilbo's. 01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:29.679 You know what I'm saying? 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:37.599 Like even with somebody like Ali Sadiq and you're writing for somebody else based off their material, you like, it's fascinating, especially when you're a fan. 01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:40.000 You like, oh, you just keep watching the special or whatever. 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:41.679 You like, this nigga is brilliant. 01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:47.440 And even if you like, I was gonna make it this way for the script and shit, but like, I gotta put that part of the joke in here. 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:48.880 Where the fuck do it fit? 01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:58.880 Where do this character I gotta And sometimes it drives me crazy, especially somebody as brilliant as he at that has all these different characters in his stories, and you try to make it into a twenty two minute pilot. 01:05:59.039 --> 01:05:59.599 Oh wow. 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:00.559 You know what I'm saying? 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:01.360 It's like, fuck. 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.920 You know, so it's like, you know, so all those little things. 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:05.920 Like, but it's a great process for me. 01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.880 I like to sit still, turn on my playlist. 01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:11.519 I make playlists for each project. 01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:15.599 Specific songs that help the wheels turn. 01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.199 And then, like, even just, you know, that's just right it. 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:20.559 Even with my business shit. 01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:28.800 You know, I got a real boss hip hop playlist with a bunch of grown ass, cool ass, Nas, Jay-Z, my home. 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.480 Like, it's just niggas is making shit that made me, you know, really think like a business nigga. 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.599 Is there a certain place you go or travel to, or are you just in a room? 01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:37.280 I could be in a crib. 01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:42.000 I could be at uh place like Joey's near my house, you know. 01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:43.119 I go to different places. 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:44.079 I could just zone out. 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:45.519 It's really about just zoning out. 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:48.000 And you can make that space anywhere. 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:48.639 You know what I'm saying? 01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:54.639 So, you know, it's not one or two places I go to or just traveling to something, but like I'm telling you, and it's different projects. 01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:58.880 And then honestly, I like working with different writers for different things that work with me. 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:01.039 So, like, for instance, my friend Hugh Moore. 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:02.239 Shout out to Hugh. 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:06.159 Man, we got this fucking animated shit that we just got a deal for. 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.960 I just we just signed it, so I hopefully we announce it soon. 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:09.760 Shout out to that, man. 01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:13.119 But that shit is the craziest idea. 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.880 Just me and this nigga just hanging out one night, like, yo, what if this happened? 01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:21.280 I'm like, yeah, nigga, then this, like, we we pitched it and should be the double, is what it is. 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:23.679 You know I'm on Lil Kev on BT. 01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:24.239 I'm trying to say that. 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:25.760 Come on, the classic. 01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:30.480 The glass trying to slide up. 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:32.000 But see, this is the thing about it. 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:36.559 That type of thing will be a door opener for a gang of y'all. 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:38.800 So I bring a bunch of motherfuckers in. 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:44.960 And that shit is, it is, it's absurdly crazy. 01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:47.360 I'm dead fucking serious. 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:49.039 It's insane. 01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:56.000 Hey, to piggyback on that, I'm more of a, I need dead silence in a room or on a plane. 01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:57.920 If I'm on a plane, I could do it too. 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.159 And what I do is I do an outline first. 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.880 I have the idea for the for the for the script. 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:09.599 I do a very detailed outline, and it's like scene for scene from beginning, middle, end of what it is.

01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:11.599 You do that early on in the process? 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:12.159 Yeah. 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:18.640 Well, even before I do that though, I think of ideas and moments that could be in the script. 01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.760 So when I'm in the shower, I'm like, oh, that'd be a funny moment. 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:22.960 Oh, that could be funny. 01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:23.840 That would be good. 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:26.000 This is a heartfelt moment. 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:31.039 So I'll kind of think of those ideas first and I'll just jot down moments first. 01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:31.680 Okay. 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:33.199 Then I'll do the outline. 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:37.199 Then I do a very detailed outline, then I transition over to the script. 01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.199 That's why I like to hear those different with the different things. 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:43.119 Mikey Winfield's like that. 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:45.199 I used to come back. 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:47.760 He would come down and he would put music on. 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:50.720 He'd little Wayne and he'd just be writing for it. 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:52.640 I mean, I say, bro, I don't know how you're doing that. 01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:53.520 While the music is playing. 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:54.479 While the music is playing. 01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:57.439 And you know, one last thing I gotta say too, because I ain't saying it. 01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:05.439 I never really I don't never really say this publicly, but I only I'm only saying this because you mentioned Rail, the, the, the, your, your sitcom. 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:27.279 When I was doing Half Bait 2, because I wrote Half Bait 2, and it didn't come out the way I wanted it to come out, primarily because the studio hired other writers who were not African American, and they changed black characters to white. 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:41.119 They took out all the N-words, and it's like you hired a nigga, you hired a black person because quote unquote you wanted a black voice, but then you hired these white writers to come in after me and switch up everything. 01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:45.600 So then when I saw the movie, I didn't have any input though, because I wasn't a producer. 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:46.560 You see what I'm saying? 01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:59.359 So at least you had some type of input on I'm a producer, so nah, just her hair is gonna be whatever the fuck she wants her hair to be, because I'm a she's a nigga and I'm a nigga, and fuck y'all. 01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:12.479 But I couldn't, I couldn't do that shit for me because when you just a uh a writer for hire, they could be like, Thank you for your service, bye-bye, here go your money, nigga, and get out of our face or whatever. 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:18.479 So I just know so, anyways, I said all of that to just say I understood kind of where you was coming from. 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:26.159 At least you had the influence, you know, you and you may not feel like you handled it the the right way, but I know what that felt like. 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:27.840 That's very important, though. 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.239 I think that's a part of the business part of it, right? 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:37.199 And and honestly, it goes back again to being the type of independent um comedian I was. 01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:41.359 And shout out to Knowledge Beckham, too, who was my you know my first manager, you know what I mean? 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:49.840 And knowledge was really big on me just understanding who like I came into this business not really knowing the rules. 01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:52.239 And so it was stuff I was asking for there. 01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:56.880 Everybody was like, real, you can you should like even agents, like we they don't usually get us to nobody. 01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:57.680 I'm like, all right, well. 01:10:57.920 --> 01:10:59.680 What what type of things were you not? 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.159 I didn't just want the fucking producer credit. 01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:07.279 Like, I like even just the EP credit, the difference between the EP and just and just the producer credit. 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.920 I wanted like, I'm like, yo, I want to watch the dailies. 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:11.520 I want this, I want to be in all those meetings. 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.800 I want to like you ask for shit, they're like, we don't usually get that to people. 01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:17.920 Like, well, if you want me to do this shit, then that's just what it's gonna have to be. 01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:22.000 And so that's what was interesting about some of the other projects I've worked on. 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:24.560 You know, I've had I want to say in it. 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.720 And it's a lot more than people think that I was able to be like, hey, this is very important to me. 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:29.840 This is very important to me. 01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:30.640 This is very important. 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:38.000 Now to cut you off, what would be the difference for those watching between like the producer role and then the executive producer role? 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:43.199 What what kind of leverage is it's easier to give the EP cred as a as a credit. 01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:44.319 Like it just looks good, right? 01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:47.119 It could be a part of like even what they're paying you. 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:55.039 Say they can't give you all the the money you want up front just from the acting part of it. 01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:01.039 Then they had to put you as an EP to get some to make that financial thing happen or give you some other shit. 01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:04.079 So it's really interesting how that shit fucking works. 01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:10.000 I think for me, it's always been more or less it's not just about the bread, it's about do I have some say in it? 01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:11.520 The

creativity of your voice. 01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.199 I wanna uh I wanna go back to Chicago for a little bit. 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:26.960 Um, because you are officially one of the legends of Chicago comedy, and it is it is uh a deep wealthy legacy of comics. 01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:31.520 Um the I'll let me go on this tangent for a trip. 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:33.439 What was the idea behind the trap house? 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:44.560 There was like it was like, so if you was a comic and you were just coming into town visit, Rail, Michi, and Wildcat had a trap house of comedy. 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:47.039 It was like just an apartment in Chicago that you stayed in. 01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:48.560 Yeah, that's just where we live. 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:49.359 No, no, no. 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:50.239 Y'all niggas was never there. 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.720 We just wanted to live, like we were just living. 01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:57.760 So, uh but you talking about so it's two versions of those houses. 01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:01.359 Damn food, Wildcat Michi ended up having the house that she's gonna be. 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:06.560 The original house was just somewhere we can fucking live. 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:12.479 It's because Wildcat Uncle ran the building, so we was able to get basically this place for a discount. 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:17.199 And this was my first time living outside my parents' house, moving into that apartment. 01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:22.239 And the reason why I moved in is because they got they got tired of driving me all the way back to the west side of Chicago. 01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:24.479 It's like, nigga, you're gonna have to live here, nigga. 01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:28.000 Everybody keep driving your ass all the way back to the west side all the goddamn time. 01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:29.920 I was like, well, I ain't got no money yet, for real. 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:30.800 I was like, well, you good. 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.880 And it wasn't until me and Michi got into that fight. 01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:34.960 I heard he beat your ass, right? 01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:35.439 Huh? 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:36.479 He beat your ass. 01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:37.920 He was winning. 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.600 He was and then he stopped and then I choked him out. 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.640 That's that's the that's what that's the story. 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:47.439 That part is very hurt. 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:51.039 That is what happened. 01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:51.840 He was winning. 01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:56.239 Nigga, he was my big brother, like, yeah. 01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:58.640 I'm like, yeah, nigga, I ain't dead. 01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:02.880 Wildcat is a true story. 01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.640 We so BG passed the fuck out, right? 01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.920 I choked this nigga to the That's not the crazy. 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:09.680 Wildcat is like, look, man. 01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:10.880 And when was

this over? 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.319 Uh it was over because one of my girlfriends kicked him out the car, but he called her a bitch. 01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:18.079 Uh she's like, man, get the fuck out. 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:19.279 He's like, yeah, real, let's go. 01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:20.000 I said, us. 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:22.319 Nigga, you called her a bitch. 01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:22.880 And this is my girl. 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:24.399 Nigga, I ain't gonna gotta deal with it. 01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:26.720 And that nigga had to walk home from riddles. 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:29.199 All right, he came home, man. 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:30.720 That nigga met her with to go some food. 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:35.279 This nigga was there, like, yeah, you gonna pick that bitch over me, nigga? 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:36.960 I said, You damn right, nigga. 01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:38.239 You don't want to call her a bitch. 01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:39.199 Fuck you, nigga. 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:40.079 So we got into it. 01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:41.119 Man, that nigga started. 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:42.079 That nigga was with it, man. 01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:43.920 We fighting this nigga, giving it to me. 01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:45.520 He just stopped. 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:47.920 As if that was that's enough. 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:51.520 Bitch, you know, enough nigga to up at you gotta knock me the fuck out. 01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:53.279 I choked that nigga. 01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.800 I literally choked UFC, wrapped my legs around this nigga. 01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:59.680 That nigga passed down there the little honor board we had to set up. 01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:00.560 Wow. 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:01.760 I came in with his son. 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:06.079 I was like, hey man, look, uh like to call the police, nigga, so you better get around the nigga. 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:07.039 That's the perfect one. 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.159 I was like, and I got the fuck up out of there. 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:11.520 Shorty came and picked me up. 01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.319 But Michi, I woke up and he was still talking shit. 01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:15.039 He was weak as hell. 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:16.560 Talking about, I'm gonna fucking kill you. 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:18.159 So I started stealing the bad nigga. 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:19.680 He was still weak. 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:20.960 Like, shut the fuck up. 01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:22.079 You weak as hell, nigga. 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:23.279 You gonna talk shit. 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:25.119 That's hilarious. 01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.960 I never get like, because this his room used to be next to the bathroom. 01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.760 And so I was quietly trying to go used there. 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.279 And I came out one day, I turned, I didn't even have a light on another. 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:39.039 And he was just standing there, you think this shit over. 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:42.000 Come on, man. 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:43.439 Let it go, bro. 01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:44.960 I used to sleep on my door. 01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:52.079 I slept on my door for like a week and a half because I and the day I didn't sleep on the door, I woke up and this nigga was just standing over with me. 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:57.439 And so today are your cool? 01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:58.239 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 01:15:58.319 --> 01:15:59.039 He clapped me. 01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:00.800 He was like, Man, what's that ass nigga? 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:01.119 Because D. 01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:03.119 Ray and it was like, what you thought the nigga was gonna do? 01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:04.159 You didn't. 01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:07.039 He he's from the west side of Chicago, man. 01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:08.880 You gotta like knock this nigga out. 01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:11.199 And Michi looked at him, we just laughed about it. 01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:15.680 And I mean, that was we got to another fight, but the second fight was funny because we both were just punching each other. 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:17.119 And we was like, man, this gotta be it. 01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:18.000 This gotta be it. 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:20.720 We gotta start. 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:21.760 What you gotta do with that? 01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:25.520 I mean, man, we could have a two-part episode, but you I got so much shit to see. 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:26.880 So much shit, bro. 01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:28.000 What you what you do? 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:29.600 Uh you do it? 01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:30.319 Come on, baby. 01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:34.319 I do, I'm trying to say, I feel like I got I gotta ask one last question. 01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:39.359 I'm thinking, which one I can't okay, here it goes. 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:40.720 Down. 01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:45.359 Uh this I'm gonna let you fucking answer what you ever you want. 01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:53.920 Yo, either your get out audition or the in-living color pilot that never aired. 01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:55.680 Both. 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:56.239 Both. 01:16:56.319 --> 01:17:01.439 I don't know if I well, you know, get out. 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.399 Jordan told me about it first at a party. 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:13.920 It was at that uh Steven Spielberg the night before shit, uh, which was another crazy night where like, you know, that was the most A-less motherfuckers I've ever seen. 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:15.600 I like I had a panic attack. 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:17.199 I like saw Tom Cruise. 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:19.760 Like, I just never been in a room where all the motherfuckers was there. 01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:22.319 Black, white, like it was like, nigga, everybody here. 01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:24.000 Steven Spielberg party? 01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:24.239 Yeah. 01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:26.319 And you was you invited, you got invited in. 01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:28.479 I was just plus one. 01:17:28.720 -->

01:17:29.920 Oh, you was han you was Hannibal. 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:30.399 Yeah. 01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:32.159 Let's call back. 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:36.560 That shit was crazy. 01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:39.760 But that party, me and Jordan was talking, he's like, yeah, I wrote a horror fan. 01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:41.039 I'm like, oh good for you, brother. 01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:42.239 Because you know, he do comedy. 01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:43.359 I'm like, nigga, all right. 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:47.920 But when he started describing it, he was so detailed, I'm like, nigga, you a real horror fan. 01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:50.720 He's like, Yeah, I'm telling you, that shit is it's gonna be great. 01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:54.239 I'm gonna have um my uh, they're gonna hit your team up for an audition. 01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:56.079 I'm like, all right, should be the double, brother. 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:58.960 And I ain't really thinking nothing of it, and then I got the audition. 01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:03.439 Um, and I was reading this shit, and I'm like, this kind of sounds like me. 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:05.520 Should be the double. 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:15.840 And so, you know, I did the first audition, and then, you know, we get to the call, you know, I get the call back, walk in, I can see a bunch of the homies in there sitting there waiting to do their shit. 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.159 The callback was the original ending. 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:20.399 That's the scene we did, and Jordan did it with us. 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:23.039 And that shit was crazy. 01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:27.199 It was crazy that he just he picked the dramatic shit to do the callback for. 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:29.359 And the original ending was he went to jail. 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:30.000 He went to jail. 01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:31.119 Yeah, Daniel Calor. 01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:37.039 And it was when you sit when I went to visit him in jail, that conversation was the callback. 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:45.680 And so we did it, and I remember being emotional when I did it, and whatever, and I'm outside just kind of like trying to get back, you know, waiting on my Uber. 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:53.119 And that's when Jordan walked out and was like, Look, man, I know I ain't supposed to do this, but it's yours if you want it. 01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:54.640 Just on a one-on-one. 01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:55.520 Yeah, yeah. 01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:58.560 Okay, and I'm like, nigga, there's still some niggas in there you gotta look at. 01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:00.479 He's like, nah, it's you. 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:01.439 Nigga, I was sitting in there. 01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:02.079 Nah, was it? 01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.239 I literally, as you were saying, I'm like, what's just no, but you know what? 01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:07.840 I did get the call for the audition. 01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.319 I was filming Rush Hour, the TV series. 01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:12.880 And clearly I made the wrong decision. 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:20.159 It was one of those things that were like, if I could be honest, I didn't give a fuck who was going for it. 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:21.920 It sounded too much like me. 01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:24.079 That was your part, bro. 01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:26.399 It was like, yo, it ain't nobody getting this shit. 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:27.279 I love y'all niggas. 01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:29.359 I remember seeing them niggas in the little lobby. 01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:30.319 It was only like a few of us. 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:31.039 Who was in there? 01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:32.239 Ray J was Ray James. 01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:32.720 Nah. 01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:34.399 I did see Ray J at audition. 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:37.680 Nah, but yeah, but it was, it was, it was, it was some of the homies. 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:40.880 And I was like, but I'll never forget that when he told me that. 01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:43.439 And I just remember walking just down the street. 01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:45.760 I don't even know where I was at, and just praising God. 01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:47.039 I was so happy, man. 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:52.319 I was like, I don't know what this movie finna be, but it some in my soul telling me this shit's special. 01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:53.279 Because you you don't know. 01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:53.840 Yeah. 01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:55.359 But it is special. 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:56.000 It is special. 01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:57.840 Uh-uh. 01:19:58.000 --> 01:19:59.920 I gotta ask about who's got jokes, bro. 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:00.319 I have to. 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:01.520 Okay, and then we out of here. 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:02.479 Do you want me to live color? 01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:03.199 Oh, but if you don't want to go. 01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:03.840 No, no, no, no, no. 01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:04.399 We want to go. 01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:05.760 In Living Color. 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:14.319 Because we had Sydney Castillo on, and he told us kind of his like backstory on like getting in and like why he felt like he didn't air or whatever. 01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:16.800 But what was your what was your thoughts on? 01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:23.439 Well, just talk about your experience of doing it and it was it was still one of the most surreal things I've ever got a chance to do. 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:37.600 And I'm talking about from, you know, they found me, they was looking at somebody else's YouTube video, and my shit, one of my a video that I'd even post, some random ass punk ass promoters without my permission posted some, a set. 01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:40.960 And I was that's why I never give them their fucking props. 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.680 Because you weren't supposed to be doing that shit anyway. 01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:44.560 But thank you. 01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:45.439 But thank you. 01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:46.159 But thank you. 01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:47.359 See, nigga, it's because

of us. 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:50.239 But it popped up after they was looking at somebody else. 01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:57.760 Shauna Garr was looking at, they was looking at, and they was like, uh, you know, who, you know, they hit knowledge of, like, yo, blah, blah, blah. 01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.800 And we was like, is this real? 01:20:59.520 --> 01:20:59.920 You know what I'm saying? 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:01.359 Like, is this a producer from 11 C? 01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:03.199 Like, yeah, we could you send us more stuff? 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:03.840 And we did. 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:05.680 I was like, well, can you come to New York? 01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:10.960 And I went to New York, showcase, and I'll never forget, I was showcasing with the New York comics. 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:12.640 So they invited their family and friends. 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:15.199 Other people was that not trying to laugh at none of my shit. 01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:16.720 But I was working so goddamn hard. 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:17.520 And Keenan was there. 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:19.279 Keenan everyway was actually there. 01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:21.520 And I went crazy on motherfucking stage. 01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:23.840 You know, you just have one of those moments like, nigga, this it. 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:24.560 Yeah, you float. 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:25.279 But fuck it. 01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:26.000 I'm finna bring it. 01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:28.319 I was I was drenching with sweat when I was done. 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.159 Rail is a monster, by the way. 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:32.000 Some niggas are just beasts. 01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:33.039 You're a monster, bro. 01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:34.319 Oh man, I appreciate that. 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:34.720 Yeah, yeah. 01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:36.079 Hungry shit, nigga. 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:38.960 When you hungry, nigga, that's a whole new thing. 01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:40.319 Yeah, the jokes come from a different place. 01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:44.880 I was watching Muppets go trying to fight that shit, but I'm like, fuck that! 01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:47.199 It's my mom, and I'm bringing everything. 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.880 And Shauna Gar came and hugged me right after I got off stage. 01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:52.720 And me and Knowledge was like, Who the fuck is this? 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:53.439 She's like, I'm Shauna. 01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:55.359 I'm like, oh, thank you so much for this. 01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:57.520 And she's like, Keenan fucking loved you. 01:21:57.600 --> 01:21:58.239 He loves you. 01:21:58.319 --> 01:21:58.960 I'm like, God. 01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:03.520 And so when I saw Keenan afterwards, I was like, hey, you know, I'd be excited because she told me he loved him. 01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:04.560 I'm like, hey brother, what's up, man? 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:05.359 You saw my set? 01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:06.800 Yeah, it was cool. 01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:08.159 Hilarious. 01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:10.640 He got on his, he got in his limo and shit in the time. 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:11.760 Motherfucker drove off. 01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:15.039 Like he said that too. 01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:16.479 They keep they keep that shit. 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.279 The Wayans keep that shit to the motherfucking vest, nigga. 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:21.359 They don't, they just that's that's how they move. 01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:23.520 So and then I got a call back. 01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:25.840 I was on tour of Ricky Smiley when I got the call back. 01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:33.680 And I went to the callback, and everybody was there, like LeVar Walker and fucking uh uh Kel Mitchell. 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.399 It was a c it was a gang of comics at this call back. 01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:37.199 Hitters. 01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:39.359 Jermaine Fowler, all of us was there. 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:45.039 And you know, you watch you hearing niggas just work their ass off of that, you know, because the door closed, you just hear niggas doing all they shit. 01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:47.760 So you like, damn, I don't really hear no laughs for real. 01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:49.119 So this shit's gonna be hard as fuck. 01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:50.079 Maybe they just watch it. 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:54.800 And I went in there and I got big laughs and shit for my characters and the pits and shit. 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:57.840 And um, then that's when I got the call. 01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:01.359 And I could not, it was one of the greatest phone calls ever. 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:03.279 Cause I was having a crazy day that day. 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:07.920 Some random ass lady had bagged up to my Saturn Ion at the gas station, bit the hood up. 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.840 So I was calling not, it's like, hey man, you know some Mexicans that come fix my hood. 01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:14.159 I'm just being honest. 01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:15.359 I just got shit. 01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:20.239 And so, you know, he was like, he called me back and I thought it was about the hood. 01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:20.960 Like, you found somebody? 01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:22.000 He's like, no, nigga. 01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:23.520 They called back, you booked it. 01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:24.399 I said, book what? 01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:25.520 The Living Color. 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.079 You're you got casted. 01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:31.039 I'm like, get the fuck out of here. 01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:37.520 And so to go to LA to it was I felt like a basketball recruit. 01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:37.920 Wow. 01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.880 Because it was agents in the lobby every motherfucking day. 01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:44.800 That's how I got to UTA. 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:46.960 That's really how I got to Hollywood, I guess. 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:49.199 My first big agent was because of Living Color. 01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:52.800 Ken Ivey Wayne say you that motherfucker before they saw anything.

01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:58.560 These motherfuckers, every agency was taking us to dinner every fucking night I came from set. 01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:00.880 That shit was crazy. 01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:08.159 And then, you know, once we shot it, and you know, we were supposed to do it with the original cast, and then the money wasn't right, so them niggas decided not to do it. 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:11.840 And so now we had to pull up all these sketches on our own and shit. 01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:21.119 And, you know, and it's interesting because like with Sydney, they brought Sydney in kind of like, you know how they had like the guests like kind of starring right now. 01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:22.159 Yeah, that's what he said, yeah. 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:25.039 So and they love Sydney, you know what I'm saying? 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:28.880 And so they brought him in, and and he was one, that's why me and Hugh became friends. 01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:29.600 You more? 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:33.439 Hugh, that's who Keenan paired me with for my the sketch ideas I had. 01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:35.680 So he was my writing partner. 01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:46.319 Um, and so you know, man, that but I tell you, I got a chance to know, like Keenan, I'll never forget the first day going to lunch, and Keenan was sitting by himself, and I just sat over there. 01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.199 He's like, What's up, man? 01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:51.680 I'm like, nothing, I'm just having lunch with you. 01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:55.039 Yeah, I don't want to have lunch with anybody. 01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:57.439 But I was like, I mean, I hear you. 01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:02.399 But I got uncles, I irritate people all the time, so I ain't gonna go to here. 01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:02.960 Yeah. 01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:04.560 And he was just like, fuck it. 01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:08.079 And every when I tell you he told me so many dope ass stories. 01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:13.359 And people was literally on the set, be like, man, you're not he's talking to you. 01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:15.039 Like, you're not afraid of him? 01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:17.199 I'm like, no, he reminds me of every old nigga in my family. 01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:18.960 Yeah, they don't want to talk to nobody, but so. 01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:22.319 Yeah, but people were so scared, writers were scared of kids. 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:22.720 Yeah. 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:24.399 And I didn't understand why. 01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:25.680 He was just a real one, man. 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:28.640 He like, he was very specific about how we write fucking jokes. 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:32.800 A lot of them that came from the SNL world, so they write a certain way. 01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:35.840 Them niggas was like, no, we want that shit to be like this. 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:36.560 Yeah. 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.800 That's that's the Wayne's timing. 01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:40.319 That shit. 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:44.159 Not that

long, and then the joke, no. 01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:45.359 Bop, bop. 01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:47.279 So them niggas was fucked up. 01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:50.479 That's fire, bro. 01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:53.439 All right, this we got a game called Kill. 01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:54.239 We about to get out of here. 01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:56.159 We got a game called Kill It or Let Live. 01:25:56.640 --> 01:25:57.600 Kill it or let live. 01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:02.640 I'm gonna throw out a topic, and you gonna say, you know, if you agree with it, you say, you know, let it live. 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:04.720 If you don't agree with it, you're gonna say kill it. 01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:05.920 All right. 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.079 Just do two today, I think. 01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:10.479 Kill it or let live. 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:15.520 Your lady said she didn't text you back at night because she was sleeping. 01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:17.439 Kill it or let live. 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:19.199 You let it live, right? 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:20.159 I mean, I guess. 01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:23.439 I guess it depends on how your your situation is. 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:27.760 Nah, yeah, especially like I trust her, so yeah, she sleeps. 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:36.479 Kill it or let live. 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:40.720 You are known as the greatest comedy director of all time. 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:41.920 I'm gonna love that. 01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:43.439 You even win an Oscar. 01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:46.880 But which is rare for comedy. 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:52.239 You win an Oscar for your comedy movies, you are known as the greatest comedy director of all time. 01:26:52.319 --> 01:27:03.920 But in order to accomplish this, you have to post on social media once a day that Kenneth Williams is the greatest comedian to ever exist, and everything he's ever said about you is true. 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:13.279 He's one of the best ever doers, man. 01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:14.479 It wouldn't be like I was lying. 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:17.439 But that last shit, no, hell no. 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:18.319 I'm killing it. 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:30.319 That's all I got. 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:36.159 Uh another game, uh, kill three, kill I'm sorry. 01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:38.000 Keep three, kill five. 01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:40.399 So it's a it's a blind blind list. 01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:42.239 You don't know what's coming next. 01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:46.319 So kill wait, kill three or keep five? 01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:49.439 No, you keep three, kill five. 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:49.920 Okay. 01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:52.000 All right, uh sitcoms. 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:54.159 All right, but you don't know what's coming next. 01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:57.520 I'll tell you now, it might be some great shit on here, it might be some bullshit. 01:27:57.760 --> 01:27:59.439 But what you don't know what's coming next. 01:27:59.600 --> 01:27:59.760 Okay. 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:00.479 All right.

01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:03.359 First up, Wayne's brothers. 01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:04.720 Keep, right? 01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:06.319 I mean, you only get to keep three. 01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:07.680 Oh, I only get to keep three. 01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:09.039 So should I hear it out first? 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:09.359 No. 01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:10.960 That's the game. 01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:13.600 Damn. 01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:15.920 Nah, let me. 01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:18.319 And what would Keenan Ivory Wayne think of? 01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:19.119 Who was the thing? 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:20.640 Kill three. 01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:22.159 I mean, Kill. 01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:22.560 Keep. 01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:24.560 Alright, so we keep Killer and Wayne brothers. 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:24.720 Yeah. 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:25.840 Sister, sister. 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:26.479 Kill. 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:28.319 Blackish. 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:29.279 Kill. 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:30.159 Okay. 01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:32.159 Carmichael show. 01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:32.960 Keep. 01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:33.920 Alright. 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:34.399 Alright. 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:34.800 You got. 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:36.079 So there's three more left. 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:36.640 Okay. 01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:37.680 Alright. 01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:39.920 Thea. 01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:42.079 Thea. 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:44.319 You already killed three though, right? 01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:49.279 You killed Wayne Brothers, you killed Sister Sister, you killed Blackish, you kept the Carmichael show. 01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:51.039 You killed Thea. 01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.199 Uh yeah, you get two more keeps. 01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:54.560 So you kill killing Thea? 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:55.279 Yeah. 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:55.840 Alright. 01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:57.439 My wife and kids. 01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:00.319 There we go. 01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:02.239 Come on, BT with a stutter. 01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:02.720 Uh-huh. 01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:05.279 I feel like you're gonna say something. 01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:06.800 Yeah. 01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:08.479 It might be two more bullshits left. 01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:10.000 Well, it might be two classics. 01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:11.279 Well, it might be two classics. 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:12.560 Kill. 01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:15.199 Alright, so that means you keep the last two. 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:26.079 So we kill uh Wayne's brothers, we kill Sister Sister, we kill Blackish, we kept Carl Microsoft, we killed Theo, we killed my wife and kids, and you get to keep one-on-one in real. 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:27.840 One-on-one. 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:37.199 This is nothing gives one on one, but it's a big better than wife and kids. 01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:39.760 Damn, there's so many sitcoms, so I didn't know where you was going with. 01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:43.359 I love Martin and you know what I mean. 01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:47.439 But that many Sam, it's so many fucking sitcoms. 01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:49.439 Different world. 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:53.680 If I put all classics on there, it makes it too uh, it makes it too. 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:54.239 Yeah. 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:54.720 Yeah. 01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:55.279 Yeah. 01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:56.479 That's a good one, though. 01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:57.520 Man, 101. 01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:59.520 Because 101 had too many changes for me. 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:03.439 So you want, you want we going back, we we go pick up my wife and kids at the moment. 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:03.680 Yeah. 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:07.039 All right, so we got Car Microsoft, My Wife and Kids, real. 01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:09.279 Last question, let's wrap this. 01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:13.039 I mean, honestly, well, on some real shit though, because I'm a real one. 01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:15.119 I would put the Wayne Brothers up a real. 01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:17.199 That's what's up. 01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:18.239 Oh man, look at it. 01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:20.079 Yeah, it's still a classic shit. 01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:22.000 But I wasn't sure what's going next to you. 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:30.479 I only did one season, so it's like the Waynes Brothers and they had fucking classic moments. 01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:31.199 Classic moments. 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:33.359 I mean, best theme song then there ever. 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:34.399 Oh man. 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:34.800 Man. 01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:36.239 That's that alone. 01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:37.439 Yeah. 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:38.800 Happy and singing and colored. 01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:39.039 Yeah. 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:40.640 Last question, man. 01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:44.880 You are killing it in uh all facet career-wise. 01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:46.159 What does it look like? 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:48.960 This kind of like a manifesting moment. 01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:50.159 Like, what does it look like? 01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:51.600 You doing directing now? 01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:52.640 We're producing. 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:56.880 What would it what would it be for you to be killing it specifically career-wise? 01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:00.239 Um, it's just to get off these ideals, man. 01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:04.960 I got a few really big ideals that as a producer and a director, I just want to get off. 01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:05.760 You know what I mean? 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:12.159 And honestly, if I could be extremely real, man, I want to just be the guy that breaks comedians, man. 01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:14.640 Like, I want to do that shit. 01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:16.239 I want to like break some niggas. 01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:18.720 That's what made me at Carlos in this movie. 01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:20.399 Like, I want to keep doing that. 01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:28.399 Whether, you know, you know, because some people where they are are stand-up, but if you break them on the

big screen or even just on television, that's what I want to do. 01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:32.720 I want to be that guy to help break, take people's shit to the next level. 01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:34.640 You a real you're a real one, bruh. 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:39.039 Because I I often tell people, giving somebody a stand-up special is cool. 01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:44.560 But if you really, really want to see somebody win, you put them in a TV show or a movie. 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:45.119 That's a fair. 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:48.159 Because that's that extra, it's that extra visibility. 01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:48.560 Yeah. 01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:50.319 Because it just is what it is. 01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:52.960 So I mean I mean, that's why I started the festival, yeah. 01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:53.600 Like for real. 01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:56.880 Like, you know, the What's Funny Comedy Festival going on year three. 01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:59.920 I enjoy like even just this year, right? 01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:06.399 We we selected these comics and to watch their videos afterwards of them just being excited. 01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:08.239 I'm like, man, I've never been picked in the festival. 01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:09.039 They were emotional. 01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:11.199 I'm just like, damn, that's why you do this shit. 01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:12.399 I love this shit. 01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:18.960 I I I want everybody to experience those moments I experienced when I got get out. 01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:19.920 Yeah. 01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:20.800 That feeling. 01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:25.600 That feeling when you just when the audience don't even know what they're running into and you become this thing. 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:30.000 And that's that's what the good thing about like when you break comics. 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:34.319 It's just we think about those Chris Tucker moments and Bernie moments. 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:34.960 For sure. 01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.039 Like, they all had these moments. 01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:37.680 Everybody. 01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:38.960 Fucking Red Fox. 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:40.079 The breakthroughs, yeah. 01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:42.079 Man, Eddie Murphy. 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:43.840 Like, let's just keep doing that shit. 01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:44.319 Justin. 01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:45.760 Like, all like, come on, y'all. 01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.239 Like, it's so many, like, I get excited about that. 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:49.920 That's and that's just who I am in this. 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.720 And it's not even just like some give overly give back shit. 01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:55.840 It's like, no, it's some gifted motherfuckers out here. 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:57.920 It helps everybody. 01:32:58.159 --> 01:32:58.800 Yeah. 01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:01.279 Well, let people know where they could find. 01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:01.600 Yeah. 01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.439 Any projects to look out for? 01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:07.520 Yeah, I mean, uh, you can find me on Instagram at comedian little rail. 01:33:07.680 --> 01:33:08.640 That's mostly what I'm on. 01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.520 I'm on other shit, but I don't even know what the fucking things is. 01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:12.560 I'm old. 01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:19.760 Um, the next project I have coming out is called uh God With Us. 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:22.960 It's a faith-based movie I did that I'm very excited about. 01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:28.560 Is it's the modern version of what Joseph and Mary's story is. 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:29.279 And it's really cool. 01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:31.760 And I play an angel and that shit, and it's fucking funny. 01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:34.159 Oh my god, damn, I said it's fucking funny. 01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:35.680 Uh I'm a custom Christian. 01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:37.279 I know, I'm cussing Christian. 01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:39.359 I'm a custom Christian, yeah, that's what it is. 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:40.640 But God with us. 01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:47.119 And then um you know, the What's Funny Comedy Festival is happening again in September, September 19th to the 26th. 01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:48.960 I'm taping my next special there too. 01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:49.279 Uh-huh. 01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:51.680 Uh during that festival or yeah, during the festival. 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:53.199 It's gonna kick off the festival this year. 01:33:53.600 --> 01:34:01.920 Um, doing it at the Black Ensemble Theater, which is their 50th anniversary, and also their first time somebody filming anything like that there. 01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:04.479 So I'm very excited about that in Chicago. 01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:13.680 Um and this is gonna be I'm gonna do this one really interesting because I have an idea of like kind of like Harlem night style, maybe this. 01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:16.319 You have visions for those specials, though. 01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:20.159 I remember the the special where it's like daytime at the beginning and yeah, in the jail. 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:21.279 Yeah, in the jail. 01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:28.399 This one material-wise is very special because I already started doing the set, and this is funny. 01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:32.720 This is the first time I'm kind of really making sure I got the material right for this. 01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:38.000 But I lost my dad in January, and so this special is called Milton. 01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:40.720 So it's just it's just dedicated to him. 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:44.960 And so it's, you know, we talk about the funeral stuff, but we also talk about just him in general. 01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:46.800 So it's gonna be fucking funny, man. 01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:47.439 Hey man. 01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:48.319 Beautiful, baby. 01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:50.720 Hey man, hey, we we did it again, man. 01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:52.159 Uh we did it again. 01:34:53.039 --> 01:34:53.520 Come on, man. 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:55.520 Make sure you like, comment, subscribe. 01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:59.039 Like I said, if y'all want to support, uh, hit that uh that super thanks. 01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:02.880 Um, and we go set up like a uh Cash App and Venmo and all that stuff too. 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:06.000 Because people been asking us like how can they support our show, man. 01:35:06.159 --> 01:35:09.279 So so we go we go make sure y'all listen to niggas, that helps. 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:17.680 We doing some live shows, we go start to morning some minute, we go an up, man, we go on number. 01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:20.640 Um, but you know, we've been your host Justin Howdy, this. 01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:25.119 And this has been the morning among the random humble.