บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The MindShift System: Reprogramming Your Thoughts for a Meaningful Life - Rocio Perez

00:04:10.064 --> 00:04:14.633 Um, was that before, after you were you, you've had your, was your son? 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.646 my son yeah, so was that before. 00:04:17.646 --> 00:04:21.821 After you had to, you had your son after I had my son okay, so you had to. 00:04:21.821 --> 00:04:27.166 Was the driving force for emancipation to get to school, or was it also just a combination of everything? 00:04:27.166 --> 00:04:27.629 I had to? 00:04:27.629 --> 00:04:32.826 Kind of I had to get myself out of everything and move, and only way to move forward was to get emancipated? 00:04:33.528 --> 00:04:34.250 All of the above. 00:04:34.250 --> 00:04:37.923 And then I knew school was the only way out. 00:04:37.923 --> 00:04:41.310 Education, that power to keep moving forward. 00:04:41.331 --> 00:04:43.360 So it was education something you always want. 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:49.487 I know you said you always wanted to be a teacher, and was that a driving factor that you had internally, or was there some sort of external factor? 00:04:49.487 --> 00:04:50.367 You talked about a Theo. 00:04:50.367 --> 00:04:55.273 Was there somebody in your life that kind of said college is the way to go, or did you just kind of always knew? 00:04:56.033 --> 00:04:56.615 I always knew. 00:04:56.615 --> 00:04:58.336 It was always inside of me. 00:04:58.336 --> 00:05:03.065 I wanted to make sure that I went on to university. 00:05:03.065 --> 00:05:05.189 I never felt like I belonged in the grades that I was in. 00:05:05.189 --> 00:05:05.992 Okay, I was held back. 00:05:05.992 --> 00:05:07.865 That's one reason the other reason. 00:05:07.886 --> 00:05:12.322 It was like I just didn't see it and I would do my uncle's homework and he was in. 00:05:12.322 --> 00:05:14.406 I was in the seventh grade and he was in the 12th grade. 00:05:14.406 --> 00:05:24.360 I I didn't see it as a point for me at that time to go through high school and I wanted to make sure that I moved on as quickly as possible. 00:05:25.060 --> 00:05:26.641 Yeah, I mean I also stayed back in. 00:05:26.641 --> 00:05:27.702 I stayed back in first grade. 00:05:27.702 --> 00:05:37.050 So I'm very used to the idea of you know, I kind of felt like for me it was kind of a way to help me in the long run, because I think I've succeeded a lot better with that stay back than anything else. 00:05:37.050 --> 00:05:47.677 And so you said you that you felt that you needed the education and that education was an important factor of your life. 00:05:51.980 --> 00:06:04.447 But obviously you ran through all these different challenges, especially having a kid at an early age, did that change your trajectory or did you feel like it helped give you that motivation to get emancipated and go to college? 00:06:05.709 --> 00:06:25.473 it definitely helped me because I knew my son didn't stand a chance in the world and I needed to go out and create that for us, for both of us, to make sure that he had a better future, that he didn't

have to live what I lived through as a child, and so I grew up in abuse, domestic violence, alcoholism, you just name it. 00:06:25.473 --> 00:06:28.346 It was not a good place to be. 00:06:28.507 --> 00:06:34.922 No, definitely, definitely and so when you said you became, you went after you emancipated, you tried to go into college. 00:06:34.922 --> 00:06:35.644 You were 15. 00:06:35.644 --> 00:06:38.829 What was that path like to get into college at that point? 00:06:38.829 --> 00:06:45.348 Did you have to go get a GED and then try to get into school, or you know how did that work? 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:48.244 That was an interesting journey. 00:06:48.244 --> 00:06:49.346 Thank you for asking that. 00:06:49.346 --> 00:06:55.067 I actually had to wait until I was accepted, and I wouldn't be accepted until I was 16. 00:06:55.067 --> 00:07:01.223 Started university at 17 and I didn't even have a GED back then. 00:07:01.223 --> 00:07:07.915 Remember, this is literally exactly 30 years ago that this happened 33, forget 30,. 00:07:07.915 --> 00:07:10.706 It was 33 years old, my son's now 33. 00:07:10.706 --> 00:07:13.372 And so it's fascinating to see that along the way. 00:07:13.372 --> 00:07:15.543 But yes, that's what I did. 00:07:15.543 --> 00:07:17.528 I went ahead and went on to university. 00:07:17.528 --> 00:07:28.029 I did well, and there was a point in time where they were asking me it's like okay, you can't go any further unless you get your GED, and that at the age of 19,. 00:07:28.029 --> 00:07:28.672 That's what I did. 00:07:29.956 --> 00:07:37.473 And you're doing all this while being a teenage mom, dealing with all this, what was going through your mind at this point? 00:07:37.473 --> 00:07:46.612 Well, you know, I know you talk about mind shift and you know what was the mindset of a teenager at this point having to deal with what most adults would find difficult. 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.850 Well, for me there was only one path forward, and that was education. 00:07:50.850 --> 00:07:55.290 I looked at it as there's something in front of me that's pulling me towards it. 00:07:55.290 --> 00:08:03.514 I knew that I had to do it, so much so that I'd go to bed at 3 o'clock in the morning sometimes, or get up at 3, depending where it was at. 00:08:03.514 --> 00:08:05.526 Sometimes I'd sleep very little two, three hours a night. 00:08:05.526 --> 00:08:06.649 Get up at three, depending where it was at. 00:08:06.649 --> 00:08:07.874 Sometimes I'd sleep very little two, three hours a night. 00:08:07.874 --> 00:08:08.997 Get up the next morning by four o'clock. 00:08:08.997 --> 00:08:17.403 I'm walking down the street with a two-year-old in my arms, diaper bag and a backpack to make a four-hour round trip just to get to school in the morning. 00:08:17.403 --> 00:08:19.889 Just to school in the morning. 00:08:19.889 --> 00:08:22.401 Okay, forget about like school time. 00:08:22.401 --> 00:08:24.843 That was simply it was was an eight hour trip

a day. 00:08:25.324 --> 00:08:26.625 Oh wow, you said the school was. 00:08:26.625 --> 00:08:29.209 The school wasn't very far from you then. 00:08:29.829 --> 00:08:31.130 It wasn't very far. 00:08:31.190 --> 00:08:31.370 Yeah. 00:08:31.430 --> 00:08:35.196 I only afford to pay $10 a day for somebody to take care of myself. 00:08:35.196 --> 00:08:49.951 Oh, okay, so you had to deal with all that I had to deal with like make the sacrifice of time and energy to be able to make it happen, and so I had to go from literally, the school was 20 minutes walking distance from where I lived. 00:08:49.971 --> 00:09:00.504 Yet I had to go to another study so my son could be taken care of and then make it to university and if I had time I would eat my cold burrito that made it three o'clock in the morning. 00:09:00.504 --> 00:09:05.568 Walking across campus, it's like, okay, I didn't have many choices. 00:09:05.568 --> 00:09:07.485 What I did see is many opportunities. 00:09:07.784 --> 00:09:09.249 And that's what kept me moving forward. 00:09:09.249 --> 00:09:11.241 It's like I knew I was in the classroom. 00:09:11.241 --> 00:09:17.945 I knew I was at a disadvantage because they would say things and I'm like I don't know what they're saying. 00:09:17.945 --> 00:09:25.746 But I did invest my time into the library and figuring out things that they were talking about and I excelled in school. 00:09:25.746 --> 00:09:26.870 That's the great thing. 00:09:26.870 --> 00:09:27.918 I did excel in school. 00:09:27.918 --> 00:09:31.229 I did catch on relatively quickly. 00:09:31.570 --> 00:09:32.351 Yeah, that's awesome. 00:09:32.351 --> 00:09:57.525 I know there's a relative resourcefulness with Latinos and Latinas when it comes to being able to do things and not only do them but do them cheap and within your budget and figure out a way, and I know that's something you probably had to learn early on in life and like and what were some of the things that you had to like, really, that you found really difficult during that phase of your life? 00:09:57.986 --> 00:10:02.822 You know, I think that the most difficult time was where my family didn't believe in me. 00:10:02.822 --> 00:10:14.705 I remember having a cousin who would always tell me she's like well, you think you're all good just because you're going to university, but like welfare would pay for mine if I want to go. 00:10:14.705 --> 00:10:20.384 So there was that competition from her end and, you know, the rest of the family like it is increíble. 00:10:20.384 --> 00:10:21.990 You think you're better than us, and even my own mother at the time. 00:10:21.990 --> 00:10:23.113 It was like heartbreaking, incredible. 00:10:23.113 --> 00:10:25.822 You think you're better than us, and even my own mother at the time. 00:10:25.822 --> 00:10:30.682 It was like heartbreaking, because my mother would say, like you should be home taking care of your son. 00:10:30.701 --> 00:10:40.191 You're gonna fail, you should be with your

husband, and probably I had left my abusive partner and I just wanted to keep moving forward. 00:10:40.191 --> 00:10:43.804 I think one of the major things that it kept me moving forward was my thoughts. 00:10:43.804 --> 00:10:53.225 It's like like you've got this Rocio, you've got this Rocio and I remember even teaching that to my son as well Like you can move forward. 00:10:53.225 --> 00:10:56.308 A little engine that could only tell a little cute story. 00:10:56.308 --> 00:11:01.519 I remember one day I think I was almost 20 years old and I was exhausted. 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.501 I was working two jobs and going to university full time, Didn't even have a car. 00:11:05.501 --> 00:11:14.008 I was cleaning homes a couple of days a week and mentoring students to get into through university and then going to school myself. 00:11:14.008 --> 00:11:23.707 And so I come home in the middle of the day and I need to take him to the doctor and I'm exhausted and he's like mom, carry me, and we're going up this hill and I'm like I can't carry him. 00:11:23.707 --> 00:11:28.379 And I also knew at that age that it wasn't his fault what we were going through. 00:11:28.379 --> 00:11:31.801 He was not to blame by any stretch of the imagination and that. 00:11:31.841 --> 00:11:42.255 I had to find a way to communicate with him that would be subtle enough to move him forward and for it to be a pleasant experience. 00:11:42.255 --> 00:11:47.491 I started telling him, like son, there was this little engine and a little engine that could, and it's going off. 00:11:47.491 --> 00:11:52.072 And so I'm telling him this, this journey, and then we get all the way up the hill. 00:11:52.072 --> 00:11:54.145 No need to discuss anything. 00:11:54.729 --> 00:11:55.090 Right. 00:11:55.700 --> 00:12:01.611 Simply a fun, engaging experience where both of our needs got met. 00:12:01.611 --> 00:12:11.187 He got up the hill and I got up the hill too, being exhausted, and still made it through nice, yeah, that it's. 00:12:12.812 --> 00:12:30.196 as someone who's a parent, uh, right now, um, with my 11 year old, uh, I'm always contemplating and thinking about the life lessons I'm teaching her, um, and the life lessons that were different from what was taught to me, and not even just what, but how they were taught to me. 00:12:30.196 --> 00:12:42.793 You know and I think you made a great point of saying that he was not to blame where lots of times parents in difficult situations find a scapegoat for it and sometimes all that pressure puts on the kids. 00:12:42.793 --> 00:13:00.440 So you know, and so when you were raising your son, especially being so young and dealing with all this stuff, how did you try to find that balance of being able to raise and teach those life lessons while still dealing with your own set of youth lessons that you were dealing with? 00:13:01.561 --> 00:13:03.225 That's a very great question. 00:13:03.225 --> 00:13:04.149 I just did it. 00:13:04.149 --> 00:13:19.620 I made a conscious choice to do it as a very young person and years prior I remember being 13 years old and looking at the situations in my family and I'm like I can see the things, I can connect the dots and see what the outcomes are. 00:13:19.620 --> 00:13:35.035 And so I made a very intentional decision, way before I had children, when I was probably nine or 10, said if I ever have kids, I want to make sure that my children are happy, right, that they're loved and respected. 00:13:35.035 --> 00:13:39.528 Like I know these things, and so being very intentional was the key. 00:13:39.528 --> 00:13:40.873 It's like I wanted. 00:13:40.952 --> 00:13:48.490 I didn't raise a child and, being very specific, I nurtured a man. 00:13:48.490 --> 00:13:50.874 I nurtured the man that I wanted him to be. 00:13:50.874 --> 00:14:05.134 I knew that what I said did didn't do would impact him in the long run, and so I wanted to mold a happy, healthy, nurturing, empathetic individual who valued women and family. 00:14:05.134 --> 00:14:14.970 Here we go, that's who I raised, that's who I molded into be that man that he became that's awesome and was a lot of that motivation. 00:14:15.009 --> 00:14:26.870 Just I don't want the cycle to be repeated right, and because I knew inside him and I believe that we all know this inside of ourselves that it is something, that it's intrinsic within all of us. 00:14:26.870 --> 00:14:27.972 We may lose touch with it. 00:14:27.972 --> 00:14:35.847 I think it's common for all humanity that we know that there's something better and that we can create it. 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:42.431 Sometimes, we lose track of it because of poverty, abuse, pressure, stress, whatever that is. 00:14:42.431 --> 00:14:45.678 For me, it's like a moment to self-regulate. 00:14:45.678 --> 00:14:48.168 Just think about it, take, take a breath, figure it out. 00:14:48.168 --> 00:14:50.283 Children are not to blame. 00:14:50.283 --> 00:14:52.048 Let's move forward. 00:14:52.048 --> 00:14:52.489 Why? 00:14:52.489 --> 00:14:56.466 Because I was blamed my whole life as a child how did it impact me? 00:14:56.546 --> 00:14:57.971 well, I didn't even think. 00:14:57.971 --> 00:15:01.381 You know, my mother used to say you're the ugliest person ever. 00:15:01.381 --> 00:15:09.273 You know, I'm doing a dumpster, like all those things that impacted me. 00:15:09.273 --> 00:15:10.033 Was it stress? 00:15:10.033 --> 00:15:11.061 Yes, did she hate her life? 00:15:11.061 --> 00:15:19.327 Yes, you know, she wanted more for herself and all of a sudden, you know, she finds herself fast forward, stuck with five children that she didn't even want to begin with. 00:15:19.327 --> 00:15:29.649 Nobody asked her right, nobody checked in with her, and I feel like when we sacrifice ourselves for that which we don't even desire, we end up resenting that as well. 00:15:29.649 --> 00:15:43.009 Even if we desire a family, we get caught up in the thick of thin things where

we're not even conscious that our words or actions or physiology or connection or lack thereof, impacts for children. 00:15:43.309 --> 00:15:45.416 Yeah, yeah, kids are a sponge. 00:15:45.416 --> 00:15:55.083 Every word matters, every action matters and sometimes we don't think about that because as adults, we can interpret things and they just absorb them. 00:15:55.083 --> 00:16:00.826 So it's being really intentional, I think for me has been always really important, like how I say things and what I say. 00:16:00.826 --> 00:16:07.291 For all of that and you know, obviously we're here now. 00:16:07.291 --> 00:16:10.493 You made it through, I made it, you made it through. 00:16:10.513 --> 00:16:16.855 Myself made it, I made it, we both made it yeah exactly, and so you moved on from what was that? 00:16:16.855 --> 00:16:20.837 The community college, and then yes, where you I went on to. 00:16:21.197 --> 00:16:21.298 Sorry. 00:16:21.740 --> 00:16:35.480 Went on to University of Colorado Denver and I was actually mentoring students to get into on our campus there's a community college, community college Denver mental state, and then we also had the University of Colorado Denver. 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:52.609 I was actually taking classes and encouraging my students to take classes in the four-year institutions at the community college level in price, and so by the time I went on to the university I only had a few courses to go and to get through it. 00:16:52.609 --> 00:17:02.890 You know what I think sometimes the things that we don't talk about impact us los sacrificios, the sacrifices that we do for our family. 00:17:02.890 --> 00:17:19.720 I literally almost lost my entire education based on wanting to support and committing to support my younger siblings and getting them out of trouble and figuring out to make sure that they didn't fall in those footsteps that other family members had fallen. 00:17:20.580 --> 00:17:28.375 And literally this is the first time I actually started publicly here on an interview, and that was that I almost got kicked out of school. 00:17:28.375 --> 00:17:30.803 It publicly here on an interview, and that was that I almost got kicked out of school. 00:17:30.803 --> 00:17:31.483 I literally had like a 1.7. 00:17:31.483 --> 00:17:34.148 I don't even remember what it was. 00:17:34.148 --> 00:17:53.684 And between working a full-time job, working, you know, trying to save teenagers and put them on the right path, keep them out of prison let's just be honest right Out there and then raising a child as a single mother, it's not any easy task for a 22 year old to handle. 00:17:53.684 --> 00:18:02.209 And and I made a decision at that time I was working I stepped out and said, hey, let me focus. 00:18:02.209 --> 00:18:03.594 Like this has been my dream. 00:18:03.673 --> 00:18:13.250 Yes, it's been difficult, yes, and whatever, and yes, it's worth it, it's my dream, I must bring it to fruition, and that's when I ended up quitting

my job. 00:18:13.250 --> 00:18:18.387 I resigned from my job and took out loans and went on and finished my schooling. 00:18:18.387 --> 00:18:20.732 I was semesters away. 00:18:20.732 --> 00:18:21.980 I couldn't throw it away. 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.346 No, and it's a very mature move. 00:18:25.346 --> 00:18:30.035 That is really difficult and I think most people don't understand. 00:18:30.035 --> 00:18:44.152 When they think college, they think, oh, it's easy, you just go to class and do nothing else all day, when really no matter what level not even including the additional stuff you're dealing with as a single parent trying to make ends meet um, you know college is difficult. 00:18:44.152 --> 00:18:45.280 College is a lot of stress. 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:46.403 There's a lot of time commitment. 00:18:46.403 --> 00:18:47.243 There's a lot of time commitment. 00:18:47.243 --> 00:18:48.906 There's a lot of things that go on. 00:18:48.926 --> 00:18:56.949 I mean myself, another one that's also had to deal with a shitty GPA and almost getting kicked out of school, having a whole bunch of loans to get out. 00:18:56.949 --> 00:19:03.781 But there's the difference between a short-term goal and a long-term goal, and lots of times people focus and say, hey, you're wasting your time. 00:19:03.781 --> 00:19:08.310 You could be working right now, when you're like, oh, I know this is going to drive me to the future. 00:19:08.310 --> 00:19:14.585 So you know, it's great to hear that, despite all of that, you know you focused on that long-term goal. 00:19:14.585 --> 00:19:17.616 And how did you always have a long-term goal mindset? 00:19:17.616 --> 00:19:19.384 Or is that something that you slowly had to build? 00:19:20.188 --> 00:19:22.355 You know, that's something that I've always had. 00:19:22.355 --> 00:19:29.563 Even as a little child, I knew that I could live a better life, that parents are supposed to love and care for their children. 00:19:29.563 --> 00:19:34.733 Even as a little girl, I knew that education was the way out and the way forward. 00:19:34.733 --> 00:19:38.268 I've always had this vision that continues to pull me forward. 00:19:38.268 --> 00:19:44.094 You know, call it God's source, call it universe, call it what you will, and it's like may yama. 00:19:44.094 --> 00:19:49.843 It continues to call me towards it and it's something that's inside of me that wakes me up in the middle of the night. 00:19:50.182 --> 00:19:51.827 It's when, I have my greatest downloads. 00:19:51.827 --> 00:19:55.885 Okay, rocio, take out the phone or take out the piece of paper, start writing. 00:19:55.885 --> 00:20:00.226 You know, there's so much it's like and here we go there's. 00:20:00.226 --> 00:20:05.605 There's something inside of my soul that pulls me towards the betterment of humanity. 00:20:06.007 --> 00:20:08.580 Nice, nice, yeah, and you talk about the betterment of humanity. 00:20:08.580 --> 00:20:12.961 It's like you're dealing with all this stuff in your life, all these challenges, all these obstacles. 00:20:12.961 --> 00:20:20.106 You're struggling, you're barely making it through and you still decided, hey, I'm going to try to encourage other people to improve their lives. 00:20:20.106 --> 00:20:26.026 Did you always have that feeling, or is that always a driving factor to not just improve your life, but improve other people's lives? 00:20:26.928 --> 00:20:28.470 It was always a factor. 00:20:28.470 --> 00:20:35.549 As a matter of fact, in my mid-teens, my family would call me Grandma, would call me Aunts and uncles would call me to get advice from me. 00:20:35.549 --> 00:20:40.309 Okay, mind you, I was 15, 16, 17 years old and they're calling me for advice. 00:20:40.309 --> 00:20:43.843 It was something that's always been inside of me, that desire to help people. 00:20:43.843 --> 00:20:52.134 By the time I was 19, I was mentoring students to get into, through university and so forth, so it's something that's always been in my heart. 00:20:52.134 --> 00:20:54.845 It's something that I love watching people thrive. 00:20:55.346 --> 00:20:57.896 I love watching people have what they want out of life. 00:20:57.896 --> 00:20:59.121 Some people come to me. 00:20:59.121 --> 00:21:04.962 They may be in their twenties and they just want to get through university or get that job or raise a family. 00:21:04.962 --> 00:21:08.374 But also people come to me I work with people that are from zero. 00:21:08.374 --> 00:21:13.007 I work with children very young, from zero to 80 years of age. 00:21:13.007 --> 00:21:15.633 The oldest student I graduated was 80 years old. 00:21:16.420 --> 00:21:22.560 So you can only imagine how people come up and I think we all have regrets, and that's one of the things. 00:21:22.560 --> 00:21:25.830 It doesn't matter how old we are, it doesn't matter what background we come from. 00:21:25.830 --> 00:21:29.205 It doesn't matter if we had a loving family or not a loving family. 00:21:29.205 --> 00:21:38.952 We all have something that holds us back from wherever it is that we desire to be, and for me, it's like I just want to stop that pain for people. 00:21:38.952 --> 00:21:49.980 I want them to live their version of a happy, healthy, wealthy life and to live from a place of joy, to have that peace that I didn't have because I was in survival mode. 00:21:49.980 --> 00:21:53.788 I was what I call in high thriving survival mode. 00:21:53.788 --> 00:21:55.372 Yes, you, I was on tv. 00:21:55.372 --> 00:21:56.861 Yes, I was doing all these things. 00:21:56.861 --> 00:22:03.473 Yes, I was educated and I was still in survival mode and what is that like? 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:08.375 thriving survival, survival, and how does that affect how people act and react? 00:22:09.096 --> 00:22:12.285 right, okay, well, for the way that it showed up for me. 00:22:12.285 --> 00:22:13.788 I think that's a good way. 00:22:13.788 --> 00:22:22.986 I'd invite people to reflect on what it is

that I say and then reflect on their life to see, like for me, it was like okay, I gotta go to school because my son needs to be educated. 00:22:22.986 --> 00:22:24.770 Right, he needs to have opportunities. 00:22:24.770 --> 00:22:31.263 I need to go to work because we it's important for us to have a great place to live, a stable place. 00:22:31.324 --> 00:22:32.865 I didn't come from a stable background. 00:22:32.865 --> 00:22:39.189 My father would come in some days and say, hey, we're moving, and it wasn't like the movers are coming or anything, it's like we're leaving. 00:22:39.189 --> 00:22:42.271 Yeah, okay, get in the car, we're leaving, that's it. 00:22:42.271 --> 00:22:44.012 You're not taking anything with you. 00:22:44.012 --> 00:22:52.020 So for me it was important, and so that survival mode led me to excel in university. 00:22:52.020 --> 00:22:55.086 Right, although I almost got kicked out. 00:22:55.086 --> 00:23:04.328 Yes, my GPAs were like 3.8 before all the stuff that was falling apart before my eyes. 00:23:04.328 --> 00:23:06.573 It led me to get additional education. 00:23:06.573 --> 00:23:13.884 It led me, it pulled me forward where other people around me in my environment, even other educated individuals, weren't doing the same thing. 00:23:13.884 --> 00:23:21.005 What that looks like for some of us for me it was Rocio is only focused on the goal. 00:23:21.005 --> 00:23:21.385 That's it. 00:23:21.385 --> 00:23:22.509 We're focused on the goal. 00:23:22.509 --> 00:23:22.971 The family. 00:23:22.971 --> 00:23:23.352 That's it. 00:23:23.352 --> 00:23:24.102 There's nothing else. 00:23:24.102 --> 00:23:29.682 There was not much of entertainment or friends or whatever it there's nothing else. 00:23:29.682 --> 00:23:32.608 There was not much of entertainment or friends or whatever. 00:23:32.608 --> 00:23:33.711 And it's almost like that driving force. 00:23:33.711 --> 00:23:43.523 Although it's great to be accomplishing things, I was missing out of my humanity and I'm going to share one pivotal moment in my life that everything just shifted. 00:23:43.523 --> 00:23:44.526 I was 33 years old. 00:23:44.526 --> 00:23:45.449 I was on top of the world. 00:23:45.449 --> 00:23:47.780 I had the house, the car, the kid, the everything. 00:23:47.780 --> 00:23:49.685 My son was graduated from high school. 00:23:49.685 --> 00:23:51.691 I had graduated from university. 00:23:51.691 --> 00:23:54.045 We had built a home from the ground up. 00:23:54.045 --> 00:24:01.785 I had built a business, two businesses, and I was an inventor and I was like, enjoying the process. 00:24:02.846 --> 00:24:06.755 And then I realized at one point I'm like, I feel unfulfilled. 00:24:06.755 --> 00:24:21.742 My son left home and I'm like, what again? 00:24:21.742 --> 00:24:22.223 This for Right? 00:24:22.223 --> 00:24:23.046 What was all this struggle for? 00:24:23.046 --> 00:24:24.067 What was all the sacrifice for to build this? 00:24:24.067 --> 00:24:24.690 And he's no longer at home. 00:24:24.690 --> 00:24:25.109 So I felt like empty. 00:24:25.109 --> 00:24:29.279 There was an emptiness inside of me, literally, as I turned 34, it's like the universe knocked on my door and said OK, rocio, are you ready? 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:30.443 Are you ready to wake up? 00:24:30.443 --> 00:24:32.108 You've been numbing yourself. 00:24:32.108 --> 00:24:35.826 I had numbed myself and I didn't even know it At that point. 00:24:36.666 --> 00:24:42.395 I had been diagnosed with a brain tumor 13 days after my 34th birthday. 00:24:42.395 --> 00:24:50.425 I was in the ER the eve of my birthday and to understand, and it's like, okay, how does my life shift? 00:24:50.425 --> 00:24:55.652 And I remember the next morning waking up and I was like a driver Okay, son, you're going to go, you're going to do your PhD. 00:24:55.652 --> 00:25:02.453 We lived in a college university city because I wanted him to go to university, all these things. 00:25:02.453 --> 00:25:08.361 And then that next morning I lived in Boulder, colorado, on the North side of it morning. 00:25:08.361 --> 00:25:10.065 I lived in Boulder, colorado, on the north side of it. 00:25:10.086 --> 00:25:16.041 I looked over my home, looked over the flat irons, and I'm looking over this beautiful rocks and I'm like para que, para que I haven't lived. 00:25:16.041 --> 00:25:21.621 You know, my son was sleeping in the living room and I'm like there's no need to stress him out. 00:25:21.621 --> 00:25:25.907 It's like just let him be, like let him in his humanity. 00:25:25.907 --> 00:25:31.342 He doesn't have to go out and do things to be happy, he can just be happy. 00:25:31.342 --> 00:25:48.474 And I remember walking up the stairs and again I'm looking over the flat irons and saying, okay, this is the first day of my life, this is the day that I get to live by intention and with intention it's no longer it's like, hey, all these goals I need to accomplish. 00:25:48.515 --> 00:25:51.483 And yes, there's a major point in that. 00:25:51.483 --> 00:26:06.384 What I would love people to understand is that trauma leads us to numbing Part of success and part of driving so hard in that high thriving survival mode is numbing ourselves. 00:26:06.384 --> 00:26:10.194 See, when my son left, I had nothing. 00:26:10.194 --> 00:26:18.634 I found myself in the middle of the night crying in the parking lot next to my office because I was just alone. 00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:35.190 And then, when fast forward to go heal myself, I left to San Diego and in that time I'm like I didn't know how to create from love, although I had made that commitment on October 20th of 2009,. 00:26:35.190 --> 00:26:37.153 I didn't know how to create from love. 00:26:37.153 --> 00:26:47.911 It was just like okay, it was almost like proving the world, proving my family wrong, proving everything wrong, and it wasn't until that point. 00:26:47.911 --> 00:26:49.902 It's like I don't know how to create from love.

00:26:49.902 --> 00:27:15.689 I don't know how to create from being in a place of not surviving, and, and so that was the hardest shift, the hardest mind shift that I had to do and to transform the way that I was thinking, because it was no longer my son driving me, it was no longer poverty driving me, it was no longer education driving me, it was no longer business driving me. 00:27:15.689 --> 00:27:18.786 Now I had to drive from. 00:27:18.786 --> 00:27:20.310 I have a place, I have a choice. 00:27:20.310 --> 00:27:23.107 How do I start to build from that? 00:27:23.107 --> 00:27:25.145 That was the hardest journey. 00:27:27.141 --> 00:27:28.224 Thank you for sharing all that. 00:27:28.265 --> 00:28:04.949 And I have to say I mean, um, we talked before, but you know, I've had my own health issues that, I think, hit me in a similar fashion, where it's like you spend all your time and it's kind of what helped me drive with this show where you're driving for this unknown goal of what I think success is, and you get there and it's not enough and you go, move forward and you keep moving those goalposts and you keep moving those goalposts and you're never happy and you're always chasing, and then something knocks you on your ass and you have to reflect and what's become more important? 00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:12.723 And when I was in college I struggled with a lot of stuff, with a lot of stuff, and they came a point where I started doing a much better in college. 00:28:12.723 --> 00:28:21.622 And that was when I stopped giving a shit, like I stopped worrying and I stopped caring, where you know, oh, I'm going to hand this paper in late, cause if I hand it in today I'm going to fail. 00:28:21.622 --> 00:28:24.208 And then my a minus goes down to a B plus. 00:28:24.208 --> 00:28:27.175 Well, I would have got a D if I didn't, if I handed it on time. 00:28:27.175 --> 00:28:33.551 But I stopped giving a shit and slowly I stopped stressing and I stopped in my mindset change. 00:28:33.551 --> 00:28:46.288 Like you said, the mind shift of what helped me get better was not continually doing the same thing over again and wondering why and so and so uh so you know, I'm just sorry, I just 00:28:46.307 --> 00:28:48.692 uh, not, not really a question, it was just more reflection on what you were. 00:28:48.692 --> 00:28:52.222 I'm just sorry, I just uh, not really a question, it was just more reflection on what you were telling me. 00:28:52.222 --> 00:29:07.041 It's just like, yeah, I, I felt that way and now that I'm here and I had to question how many more years I have in this world I keep talking about I'm trying to squeeze out as many extra years as I can, and what is the meaning that I'll be leaving behind when I move forward? 00:29:07.041 --> 00:29:15.132 So you know, I just have to reflect on what you were saying, because it hits me, hits me hard, the words you're saying, because I'm I'm dealing with that right now as well. 00:29:16.316 --> 00:29:29.167 You know, it's fascinating when we come across that point again, 34 years old that day, the next day, 14 days after my birthday, and thinking this is the first day of my life. 00:29:29.167 --> 00:29:37.334 First of all, the doctor told me on the 19th, same day that I was MRI'd, same day that I was talked with. 00:29:37.334 --> 00:29:41.691 I demanded to speak with the doctor and I started to see all the things that were important. 00:29:41.691 --> 00:29:45.423 Number one the doctor said you could have a stroke and die any moment. 00:29:45.423 --> 00:29:50.813 And I'm like wow, like what am I gonna do? 00:29:50.813 --> 00:29:53.443 What am I gonna dedicate my life to? 00:29:53.443 --> 00:29:54.425 How do I? 00:29:54.425 --> 00:29:56.009 How do I live with intention? 00:29:56.069 --> 00:30:06.727 and I remember my best friend was there that morning when the doctors called me and said, hey, you, you have a rare brain tumor and, uh, you can die any moment. 00:30:06.727 --> 00:30:11.282 And I'm like, okay, um, thank you, uh, let's, let's deal with it as a business transaction. 00:30:11.443 --> 00:30:14.031 That's survival yeah survival to the core. 00:30:14.031 --> 00:30:17.021 That's that's disconnecting from our humanity. 00:30:17.021 --> 00:30:24.365 I disconnected from my humanity, I disconnected from my feelings and I remember going, uh, immediately to my friend. 00:30:24.365 --> 00:30:42.989 I'm like, okay, like all the things that I was putting off, that I didn't think they were that important, like I had reconnected with the brother, I had just found out that I had nieces, and it's like I want to go get me a plane ticket, I want to leave, I want to go see my brother, I want to go meet my nieces for the first time. 00:30:42.989 --> 00:30:43.750 I want to do this. 00:30:43.750 --> 00:30:50.666 That the other, like all the things that were important were now at the forefront. 00:30:50.666 --> 00:30:52.634 Why did I have to wait until being faced with death to be able to do that? 00:30:52.634 --> 00:30:54.800 That was the hardest thing. 00:30:55.721 --> 00:31:02.693 And then fast forwarding coming back to San Diego on June 16th 2011,. 00:31:02.693 --> 00:31:06.451 I'm there in San Diego and I'm like okay you know, what do I do do now? 00:31:06.530 --> 00:31:07.715 what do I do with my life? 00:31:07.715 --> 00:31:12.490 And then people are calling me like Rocio, I need your energy, and like they want me to coach them. 00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:18.915 And I'm like, oh my gosh, how can these people that I help mold have a better life than I do? 00:31:18.915 --> 00:31:25.166 And I wasn't talking about the time, the energy, the money, the resources, the education, the accolades of the achievement. 00:31:25.166 --> 00:31:28.913 What I wanted was my mother's love. 00:31:28.913 --> 00:31:38.704 I literally would have packed everything and put it in a box and said here you go, you can have it all, as long as you can give me my mother's love. 00:31:38.704 -->

00:31:41.876 And that was the beginning of my journey. 00:31:42.037 --> 00:31:50.613 That was the beginning of my journey of learning, of healing, of understanding that it wasn't her love that I wanted. 00:31:50.613 --> 00:31:51.901 It was my love. 00:31:51.901 --> 00:31:56.108 I didn't love myself and I didn't even know it. 00:31:56.108 --> 00:31:58.554 From the outside it looked perfect. 00:31:58.554 --> 00:32:01.786 Rosia lived like a princess. 00:32:01.786 --> 00:32:06.683 The clothes, the, whatever, the band-aids let's just put them that's what they are. 00:32:06.683 --> 00:32:07.369 It's band-aids to cover everything. 00:32:07.369 --> 00:32:08.076 Put them like that's what they are. 00:32:08.076 --> 00:32:09.762 It's band-aids to cover everything up. 00:32:09.762 --> 00:32:19.128 And I was so numb that at that point, when I started to realize I put myself into my own coaching system, I had realized nobody's ever coached me. 00:32:19.128 --> 00:32:22.204 You know, I've been coaching and helping people, like, get me out. 00:32:22.204 --> 00:32:23.007 Nobody's helped me. 00:32:23.007 --> 00:32:28.642 Like, how do I continue to move forward and help myself in a way that is productive for me? 00:32:28.642 --> 00:32:35.228 That's where this whole mind shift journey began for me in a very different way. 00:32:35.248 --> 00:32:36.209 Nice. 00:32:36.209 --> 00:32:44.575 And so, jessica, quick backtrack Health-wise your tumor did everything turn out okay with that. 00:32:44.575 --> 00:32:46.616 Or are you still dealing with it. 00:32:50.901 --> 00:32:53.286 It's a great question the tumors and remission. 00:32:53.286 --> 00:33:02.185 I had a high dose of radiation, only able to have once and that was it, and from that point forward, it's whatever it is. 00:33:02.185 --> 00:33:13.288 The only thing that I know is that I get to live my life the way that I choose to live my life and, um, I've choose to live my life and I've been asked that question many times, like Rocio, like what are you doing on the stage? 00:33:13.288 --> 00:33:16.865 And if you don't know what's happening, does it really matter? 00:33:16.865 --> 00:33:18.249 Does it really matter? 00:33:18.249 --> 00:33:25.429 It's like it's not how I died that mattered, it's how I lived matters, and I live. 00:33:25.548 --> 00:33:29.174 I choose to live full out and so and so what came next? 00:33:29.174 --> 00:33:33.227 After you starting your life over day one, you're moving forward. 00:33:33.227 --> 00:33:33.888 What's next? 00:33:34.450 --> 00:33:35.270 day one. 00:33:35.270 --> 00:33:45.222 Here I am again in San Diego and I was like, when I made that realization, nobody's ever coached me and I decided to turn coaching onto myself. 00:33:45.222 --> 00:33:47.489 I started learning from a lot of different people. 00:33:47.489 --> 00:33:56.922 I went to many different world-renowned experts and learning here, there, and then I recognized that nobody had the secret answer. 00:33:56.922 --> 00:34:08.791 I knew that if I didn't resolve whatever was inside of me and it had nothing to do with health although there was a brain tumor that could have killed me it didn't have to do anything with health. 00:34:08.791 --> 00:34:09.833 It's like that. 00:34:09.833 --> 00:34:12.143 It had to do with whatever was unresolved. 00:34:12.143 --> 00:34:23.072 And oh boy, let me tell you like life peaked its ugly head in ways that I could have never imagined, where I was seeing the trauma, and it's like I had to. 00:34:23.072 --> 00:34:24.844 I had to dance with my trauma. 00:34:24.844 --> 00:34:25.788 I had to see my. 00:34:25.788 --> 00:34:28.577 I didn't even see them like prior to that. 00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:30.967 I was like, oh, my parents did the best that they could with what they had. 00:34:30.967 --> 00:34:31.869 No, I was scared. 00:34:31.869 --> 00:34:48.914 They did the worst they could with what they had and in the way that really impacted me as a human being and really could have let me um an enigma, I could have been dead, way you know, in my teens because of that. 00:34:48.914 --> 00:34:56.032 Really, looking at it, I put myself into this personal development arena. 00:34:56.032 --> 00:35:01.891 I discovered that nobody had the answer, that the answer was within me, all of the answers were within me. 00:35:01.891 --> 00:35:03.882 And then I started coaching myself. 00:35:04.425 --> 00:35:11.085 I would walk around and I'm like I'm telling my clients you have a problem, your father didn't show love to you. 00:35:11.085 --> 00:35:12.789 How about you show it to yourself? 00:35:12.789 --> 00:35:14.052 What didn't you hear? 00:35:14.052 --> 00:35:15.603 And I'm like, what about you, rocio? 00:35:15.603 --> 00:35:25.769 And so I started looking, literally, I started looking in the mirror and I'm like, hey, rocio, by the way, I'm like I love you, little girl, like all the things I never heard from my family, from my mother or father. 00:35:25.769 --> 00:35:27.313 Like hey, little girl, you're amazing. 00:35:27.313 --> 00:35:28.635 Hey, little girl, we're so proud of you. 00:35:28.635 --> 00:35:44.286 And I'm like, hasta que me la creí Until I started to affirm as I affirmed, I confirmed, and when it was confirmed, then this whole new being emerged and it took what it took. 00:35:44.286 --> 00:35:53.003 It took what it took and I was like. 00:35:53.003 --> 00:35:55.351 I was like the pit bull that grabs on so hard that it's not going to let go until it gets what it wants. 00:35:55.411 --> 00:35:55.632 That was me. 00:35:55.632 --> 00:36:01.088 There was no way in the world that I was not going to see my son ever again, because I knew it would kill me. 00:36:01.088 --> 00:36:03.643 I'm not sure if you know the statistics right now. 00:36:04.065 --> 00:36:10.722 They've discovered that the vast majority of diseases have to do with unresolved trauma and emotions. 00:36:10.722 --> 00:36:12.686 They're stuck in the body. 00:36:12.686 -->

00:36:14.750 They just manifest as disease. 00:36:14.750 --> 00:36:19.585 And so I went through this amazing transformation. 00:36:19.585 --> 00:36:22.853 I started journaling like I had never journaled before. 00:36:22.853 --> 00:36:35.728 I started doing my affirmations, I started doing physical exercises to retrain my mind and my body, and then I started teaching that to others. 00:36:37.661 --> 00:36:40.568 It's at the Affirmation Prize it's. 00:36:40.568 --> 00:36:43.333 We talked about kids and how they're. 00:36:43.333 --> 00:36:46.706 Sponges and words and everything matter, but as adults they still matter. 00:36:46.706 --> 00:36:48.297 And sometimes just saying simple things, like as adults they still matter. 00:36:48.297 --> 00:36:52.309 And sometimes just saying simple things like you said I love myself, I love you. 00:36:52.309 --> 00:36:52.971 You know what I mean. 00:36:52.971 --> 00:36:53.981 Or you're doing great. 00:36:54.402 --> 00:36:55.585 Those little affirmations. 00:36:55.585 --> 00:37:02.086 Eventually you start to believe them, and so it's a great thing, and I guess this kind of goes into what we're. 00:37:02.086 --> 00:37:05.543 What we'll go into next, I guess, is with your mind shift system. 00:37:05.543 --> 00:37:08.110 And how did that evolve from what you were doing? 00:37:18.061 --> 00:37:18.143 Well. 00:37:18.143 --> 00:37:32.688 So, because the system was so successful and I was teaching it to people and my commitment on October 20th 2009 was to serve humanity in a different way it was at that moment is that I owned my guess although I had been coaching, I never had seen it as a job, or I never had seen it as a career for myself. 00:37:32.688 --> 00:37:34.231 I was like something that I do. 00:37:34.231 --> 00:37:36.103 It's like I'm naturally competent at it. 00:37:36.103 --> 00:37:37.244 Doesn't everybody know this? 00:37:37.244 --> 00:37:42.802 And then when I embraced it, I said, wow, I helped myself. 00:37:42.802 --> 00:37:44.224 I was helping clients. 00:37:44.224 --> 00:37:55.891 I was watching people transcend their limitations and post-perceived limitations Because we also have perceived limitations and I immersed myself into studying. 00:37:55.891 --> 00:38:09.260 You know, when they said 10,000 hours, well, I would have probably multiplied that by 10 itself, and I was like studying and listening to audio and reading books and taking conferences, and that's one of the things that helped me. 00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:17.282 So I said, okay, now you're helping yourself, you're helping others, but what happens to the people that cannot afford it? 00:38:17.282 --> 00:38:19.088 What if the people? 00:38:19.088 --> 00:38:21.181 If they don't have time, they may have money. 00:38:21.181 --> 00:38:26.983 If they don't, if they have money, they don't have time to wait, or you know, whether it's time or money or energy or whatever, like? 00:38:26.983 --> 00:38:36.833 It shouldn't be the case that only the people who

could afford it or have the time that can do it and coach themselves, and it's like, oh. 00:38:36.853 --> 00:38:40.264 So again, turning coaching onto ourselves, I created the MindShift game. 00:38:40.264 --> 00:38:50.032 It's part of the MindShift system and part of the MindShift system helps people do the very things that I have been doing, naturally, as a little child. 00:38:50.032 --> 00:38:53.309 That's how I survive, telling myself that I could. 00:38:53.309 --> 00:38:55.748 So it's about taking courageous actions. 00:38:55.748 --> 00:39:00.030 Courageous actions lead into boosting your confidence. 00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:04.190 Boosting your confidence leads into discovering your vision, your mission. 00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:06.407 Not mother, father, teacher, preacher's vision. 00:39:06.407 --> 00:39:11.248 Not because I'm a first gen, does that mean that I get to follow somebody else's dream. 00:39:11.248 --> 00:39:27.972 I have a dream and then into that is like really stepping into our power and having those conversations, doing the things that are important, and then stepping into our energy, owning it as the life and the world depends on it, because it does. 00:39:27.972 --> 00:39:38.786 Our life depends on it, and so all of these are affirmation cards where and I'm going to read a couple of them I take charge of every moment, in every area of my life. 00:39:38.786 --> 00:39:40.130 How powerful is that? 00:39:40.130 --> 00:39:46.190 As people read it over and over, just like I did, these are very, very intentional and. 00:39:46.250 --> 00:39:53.548 I share very intentional, because I spent months with an entire team working on every single word that we put on here. 00:39:53.548 --> 00:40:03.722 As a matter of fact, last night I was at a in an organizational event and someone told me wow, you know, I'm doing my affirmations as well and they're great. 00:40:03.722 --> 00:40:19.726 And they started sharing their affirmations and I've heard this many, many times and expecting something positively, and they thought, because simply they were doing affirmations that they were perfect. 00:40:19.726 --> 00:40:22.559 Well, we start to affirm, affirm, affirm. 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:28.954 Something that's negative, like if I keep on saying hey, I'm never going to steal, I'm never going to steal or I'm never going to hurt somebody. 00:40:28.954 --> 00:40:32.235 Just repeat after me, say that phrase without the word no. 00:40:35.206 --> 00:40:36.789 You said I'm never goodness. 00:40:36.789 --> 00:40:41.630 It was replaced with with no, I'm going to steal that's exactly what we're saying, right. 00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:43.476 We cannot not think of something right. 00:40:43.476 --> 00:40:48.277 And when people like I'm never going to give up on my dreams, it's like you're programming. 00:40:48.277 --> 00:40:55.255 I'm going to give up on my dreams because the mere fact that you're actually saying that is actually programming you. 00:40:55.255 --> 00:40:59.432 And for me, I'm very, very intentional on what I hear. 00:40:59.432 --> 00:41:02.353 It's like it's almost like somebody says something negative. 00:41:02.353 --> 00:41:04.463 It screeches in my soul and my ears. 00:41:04.463 --> 00:41:14.612 It's like like chalk on the chalkboard and so we created this entire deck of cards so that people can go ahead and program themselves. 00:41:14.612 --> 00:41:17.565 It's like, because we do every single day, we're already programming ourselves. 00:41:17.907 --> 00:41:19.269 Why not be intentional about it? 00:41:19.269 --> 00:41:21.054 Why not program ourselves? 00:41:21.054 --> 00:41:24.369 Why not play a game that's fun and easy and exciting? 00:41:24.369 --> 00:41:29.592 And then you start to see yourself shift and your energy shift, and people around you're like hey, what happened to you? 00:41:29.592 --> 00:41:33.606 Marcos, maria, you know, paco, what's going on with you? 00:41:33.606 --> 00:41:35.250 You know you look great. 00:41:35.250 --> 00:41:37.536 I always hear people like you're glowing. 00:41:37.536 --> 00:41:38.905 I'm like life is great. 00:41:38.905 --> 00:41:47.445 So that the game comes with a guide that teaches people like start wherever you want to start. 00:41:47.445 --> 00:42:08.170 You get to choose where you want to start, and then it has a journal and the journal walks you through an entire process every day, starting with gratitude, self-efficacy we're one of the only, if not the only, people in the world that talk about self-efficacy and that's helping people self-regulate, it's getting out of that survival mode. 00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:13.648 Human being, we can throw ourselves into survival mode simply by thought alone. 00:42:13.648 --> 00:42:19.197 We could even do it by breathing, can do it by physiology. 00:42:19.197 --> 00:42:22.148 Simple, you know, I can show you somebody you know. 00:42:22.148 --> 00:42:26.905 Show me right here, right now, what does a person look like when they're depressed? 00:42:27.246 --> 00:42:36.666 physiology yeah, I don't know and most of the time it's like and this is as fast, because I do this on a global scale. 00:42:36.666 --> 00:42:41.018 I'm like show me physiologically what a person looks like when they go into depression. 00:42:41.018 --> 00:42:43.730 It's that fast. 00:42:43.730 --> 00:42:58.237 So, if I understand that depression can also be and, mind you, there are people who do need some support in different ways but sometimes it's also our physiology that takes us into depression. 00:42:58.237 --> 00:43:02.755 How we hold our body, how we're breathing, the thoughts that we're thinking. 00:43:02.755 --> 00:43:06.047 Our thoughts tell our body what to feel. 00:43:06.588 --> 00:43:09.335 Our body tells our mind what to think. 00:43:09.335 --> 00:43:25.097 And this is this vicious circle, and so my goal in life is to help people take control of their life, take charge of their life, to live the life that they came here to

live, which is to be happy to enjoy it, to be in peace and harmony. 00:43:25.097 --> 00:43:25.947 Yes, there's stress. 00:43:25.947 --> 00:43:27.815 Stress only means that there's growth. 00:43:27.815 --> 00:43:31.347 When there's prolonged stress, that's where disease comes from. 00:43:32.188 --> 00:43:52.032 That's survival mode, even if you're high, thriving yeah, yeah, I really like the, especially the aspect you're talking about, like the removing the negative connotations and stuff, cause it's, you know, every parent is a lead, a coach to their kid, kind of deal. 00:43:52.032 --> 00:44:05.065 You know you're constantly trying to teach them lessons and show them, hopefully, things to improve their lives, and one of the things I like to do with my daughter is make sure she doesn't trying to teach them lessons and show them, hopefully, things to improve their lives, and one of the things I like to do with my daughter is make sure she doesn't fear challenges and failures. 00:44:05.606 --> 00:44:06.447 So that you know. 00:44:06.467 --> 00:44:09.735 So for her it's like she tells me I can't do this. 00:44:09.735 --> 00:44:14.014 I'm like it's not that you can't do this, it's just you don't have enough experience to make it easy for you. 00:44:14.014 --> 00:44:16.146 But if you keep, working at it you'll get there, you know. 00:44:16.186 --> 00:44:16.949 So it's so. 00:44:16.949 --> 00:44:23.708 It's constantly like saying telling her, hey, these are just challenges that are going to improve your life, they're not something you can't do. 00:44:23.708 --> 00:44:25.672 And uh, she's gotten better. 00:44:25.672 --> 00:44:27.315 Like, she's big on soccer. 00:44:27.315 --> 00:44:56.092 She's like, oh, maybe I should try out for the select team because it'll be more of a challenge and I think I'll get better doing this harder level stuff, and so I see it slowly building up on her and so I can, like you know, like you said, it's like these little things that build up to these big changes, that your game, I think, hopefully gives people that opportunity to to slowly incorporate these tasks, that eventually they might not need the game anymore because they're doing it on their own. 00:44:56.925 --> 00:44:58.349 And they start to do it on their own. 00:44:58.349 --> 00:45:05.737 And here's something that's magical about the game it's played in eight week rounds, played every day, three times a day, every day, three times a day. 00:45:05.737 --> 00:45:23.536 You're developing a pattern that you're right in time and the perfect time for you, because it also depends on your intensity, right and your commitment and what you get to do in the perfect time for you, based on what you're, the effort that you're putting into it, that you'll be there. 00:45:23.536 --> 00:45:24.626 It's like automatic. 00:45:24.626 --> 00:45:25.990 It's automatic, it's automatic. 00:45:25.990 --> 00:45:27.094 It's like I get to do this. 00:45:27.094 --> 00:45:29.628 I want to share a

quick story because I think it's fun. 00:45:30.190 --> 00:45:37.875 You talked about fear and that was one of the things that I, when I was molding my son, I wanted to make sure that he was solid. 00:45:37.875 --> 00:45:56.413 And now, with my grandchildren, I remember my grandson was about 18 months old and I put him up in the air and he's like I could feel him shake and I'm like not under my, not under my watch, okay, because I know the impact of what's going to happen, and I remember, as he was growing up, I would teach him. 00:45:56.413 --> 00:45:59.297 He's like I want to go on the monkey bars and I'm like you got this. 00:45:59.297 --> 00:46:00.117 Repeat after me. 00:46:00.117 --> 00:46:01.701 I've got this, I got this, I got this. 00:46:02.105 --> 00:46:12.210 And there was a point in time when, right pre-COVID literally pre-COVID, it was that February he was four years old, going on five, and I'm like catch. 00:46:12.210 --> 00:46:22.786 You know, we're playing catch and he couldn't catch. 00:46:22.786 --> 00:46:23.449 And he's like catching like this. 00:46:23.449 --> 00:46:24.914 I'm like it's not a beach ball, right, so he's not going to catch. 00:46:24.914 --> 00:46:26.016 And by the end of that visit he's catching like this. 00:46:26.016 --> 00:46:27.181 Next time I come around I'm like let's go play catch. 00:46:27.181 --> 00:46:27.844 And he's like no, I can't get it. 00:46:27.844 --> 00:46:28.204 And I'm like nope. 00:46:28.605 --> 00:46:31.068 Those are like let me share with you a little child. 00:46:31.068 --> 00:46:38.278 I'm like, okay, I see that I get to change that in him, I get to mold something in him. 00:46:38.278 --> 00:46:40.489 And I'm like, okay, repeat after me. 00:46:40.489 --> 00:46:43.059 And he was always he was used to repeating after me. 00:46:43.059 --> 00:46:44.327 And I'm like I've got this. 00:46:44.327 --> 00:46:47.699 And so he's standing and I have video of this. 00:46:47.699 --> 00:46:50.469 He's standing up there and he's like I've got this, I've got this, I've got this. 00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:56.117 And I saw him get into the peak state and I got I threw over the little hacky sack and he caught it for the first time. 00:46:56.117 --> 00:46:59.478 And I'm like recording him and he's like let me see, let me see, let me see. 00:46:59.478 --> 00:47:02.561 And he caught almost every single time after. 00:47:02.561 --> 00:47:03.501 Why? 00:47:03.501 --> 00:47:06.161 Because he got into a peak state of mind. 00:47:06.161 --> 00:47:17.976 He went from the I can't, which are the most dangerous words that I consider in the world, to I can't and I got this yeah, it's, it's. 00:47:18.097 --> 00:47:18.637 It's funny. 00:47:18.637 --> 00:47:29.702 I love talking to you today, by the way, because you keep telling these stories, and it hits me with something that I've dealt with too, where it's like you know, sometimes you read something at the right time and it kind of changes your perspective. 00:47:29.722 --> 00:47:30.045 Everything. 00:47:30.045 --> 00:47:42.949 And like early, like after my daughter was born, I just happened to see an article that talked about teaching kids to take risks at an early age, even on a monkey bar, where they're afraid to climb up to the highest bar. 00:47:42.949 --> 00:47:50.460 And teaching them to take that risk and move forward builds the stepping stones that will lead to more successful adults. 00:47:50.460 --> 00:47:52.047 Because they're not afraid of taking risks. 00:47:52.047 --> 00:47:58.173 As adults, they're not afraid to start that company or apply for that job or go to those classes or learn something new. 00:47:58.173 --> 00:48:06.329 Because at an early age they've learned to deal with the idea that risk could bring reward and they're not scared of it. 00:48:06.329 --> 00:48:10.688 And that whole concept, like you say with with your grandson, where it's like I can't, I can't, I can't. 00:48:11.110 --> 00:48:15.869 I mean, I'm the same way and it's like you're solely teaching them, encouraging them to say there's no such thing as you can't. 00:48:15.869 --> 00:48:16.692 I tell the time. 00:48:16.692 --> 00:48:20.338 There's no such thing as you can't, it's just you haven't gotten enough experience to make it easy. 00:48:20.338 --> 00:48:21.768 Yet you know what I mean and you're getting there. 00:48:21.768 --> 00:48:30.427 So I love and, like I said, it's been great today talking to you, because you keep hitting me over the head with stuff that I'm like, yes, yes, I feel that I love that. 00:48:30.427 --> 00:48:39.715 So so it's obviously you have your game and then you also have you have, for the Mindshift system, a university. 00:48:39.715 --> 00:48:41.155 You're starting a university. 00:48:41.715 --> 00:48:44.157 We have a university and it launches today. 00:48:44.217 --> 00:48:44.418 Nice. 00:48:44.458 --> 00:48:46.259 It's launching today and it's beautiful. 00:48:46.259 --> 00:48:48.300 It's like we have it both in English and Spanish. 00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:50.922 It's about how to be confident with you. 00:48:50.922 --> 00:48:54.367 How do we overcome fear? 00:48:54.367 --> 00:48:57.353 How do we embrace our actually even embracing? 00:48:57.353 --> 00:48:59.958 Even our own imposter syndrome can help us. 00:48:59.958 --> 00:49:02.108 There's a time to use it, there's a time to not. 00:49:02.108 --> 00:49:03.251 There's a time to be aware. 00:49:03.251 --> 00:49:06.951 There's a time not to be aware of things and there's a time to embrace things. 00:49:06.951 --> 00:49:13.672 So what we're doing is helping people being more confident in and achieving what they want to achieve. 00:49:13.672 --> 00:49:25.871 So we have the MindShift University buses on psychological safety, change management, confident being you, seeing your blind spots, figuring out where you've been and how you move forward, and then we also have our books of a book series. 00:49:25.871 --> 00:49:27.275 This is unstoppable.

00:49:27.275 --> 00:49:31.693 This is a workbook that helps people achieve what they want to achieve. 00:49:31.693 --> 00:49:38.525 You can go through this book a million times, and a million times you will find something new because you're constantly involving. 00:49:39.068 --> 00:49:49.297 And we have that one in spanish, and then you know this is one of our books, the hispanic journey. 00:49:49.297 --> 00:49:59.297 And then this is our latest book right here, which is these are stories from mind and soul, from that strength that we draw. 00:49:59.297 --> 00:50:11.619 These are 22 co-authors, including myself, across the nation that have made a commitment to helping our youth, to helping people see the resilience of our gente. 00:50:11.619 --> 00:50:12.802 How do we move forward? 00:50:12.802 --> 00:50:24.661 So everything that we do is to help people achieve the life that they desire, whether it's through our books, through our games, through our keynotes, through our coaching, through any of our products and services. 00:50:24.661 --> 00:50:29.757 We also have a TV show called the Mind Shift Game TV show. 00:50:30.016 --> 00:50:30.237 Nice. 00:50:30.237 --> 00:50:32.291 And what is that TV show? 00:50:32.291 --> 00:50:41.407 Is it like people playing the game, or is it like it's actually people listening to the coaching aspect get coaching. 00:50:41.489 --> 00:50:45.476 It's on one of the an amazing platform called expand itv. 00:50:45.476 --> 00:50:50.454 It's like the netflix coaching world oh nice so, which is really neat. 00:50:50.454 --> 00:50:55.327 So I share thoughts and insights on how people can continue to move forward. 00:50:55.327 --> 00:51:02.134 You know, anytime that you can do work one-on-one with us or as a group, it's always very, very beneficial. 00:51:02.134 --> 00:51:05.568 And then you know as you see it right, it's like watching something on YouTube. 00:51:05.648 --> 00:51:06.492 Is it the same thing. 00:51:06.492 --> 00:51:07.876 Oh, it's great. 00:51:07.876 --> 00:51:09.891 And the in-person. 00:51:09.891 --> 00:51:16.034 I want to be in the concert, I want to listen to the conversation, I want to feel the music and the vibes, and that changes. 00:51:17.056 --> 00:51:28.728 Nice and so, with everything that you guys are doing and that you know all the help you're providing people, you know what's, what's some of the biggest takeaway that you want people to realize that come for these. 00:51:28.728 --> 00:51:33.103 You know mind shift game and the mind shift system and your leadership and your, your coaching. 00:51:33.103 --> 00:51:35.974 You know what's one of the biggest things you guys like to emphasize. 00:51:37.045 --> 00:51:41.958 That you can do this, that any one of us can transform our lives at any given point in time. 00:51:41.958 --> 00:51:43.230 Our minds are malleable. 00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:46.514 Our minds can shift over and over again. 00:51:46.514 --> 00:51:50.233 The earlier we do it, the younger we

do it. 00:51:50.233 --> 00:51:51.416 It's going to be easier. 00:51:51.416 --> 00:51:58.557 It's easier for me to coach somebody that's 10 years old versus somebody that's 30 or 40 years old. 00:51:58.557 --> 00:52:03.581 It's there's a difference, right, I think, about it being as concrete the older we are. 00:52:03.581 --> 00:52:10.288 You know, there's a layer of concrete, layer of concrete, layer of concrete, and in time, that layer of concrete's going to look like this thick, right? 00:52:10.288 --> 00:52:13.554 You know, is it this thick or is it this thick, right? 00:52:13.574 --> 00:52:34.389 so it's going to be the major difference in what level of commitment that we can transform our lives, that it is in our hands, that it is by instinct that we were born perfect, whole and complete as human beings and that everything that we have lived is what we have learned Okay, automatically. 00:52:34.389 --> 00:52:41.373 We have learned more from the ages of zero to seven than what we will for the rest of our lives. 00:52:41.373 --> 00:52:51.456 Although we think we get PhDs, mds, one, two, threes, whatever the learning that goes into the individuals is far greater. 00:52:51.456 --> 00:52:59.105 So I have a huge place in my heart for children and I would love for parents to invest in their children. 00:52:59.105 --> 00:53:05.286 The earlier that we can do that, the more that we're changing our children's, children's children's lives. 00:53:05.286 --> 00:53:13.972 You know, for the south generation that impact, and also for those of us who are teens or adults, hey, you know, take it into your own hands. 00:53:14.112 --> 00:53:19.309 Your don't wait for somebody, like a lot of people, like, well, my boss isn't invested in it, so I'm not going to do it. 00:53:19.309 --> 00:53:22.496 It's like, okay, okay, you know. 00:53:22.496 --> 00:53:28.934 And also that your greatest investment is always going to be in your mind always get in your mind. 00:53:29.375 --> 00:53:35.351 You buy this brush, that brush is only going to serve you, but it doesn't give you anything more. 00:53:35.351 --> 00:53:52.405 Rather than you use it to apply the powder on your face, and when you invest in your mind over and over and you shed that layer and shed that layer and shed that layer, you reconnect with your intuitive wisdom that allows you to create things even faster. 00:53:52.405 --> 00:53:57.175 See, after my trauma healing, I was able to to not only heal also. 00:53:57.175 --> 00:53:59.981 I was able to get to not only heal also. 00:53:59.981 --> 00:54:02.206 I was able to move forward faster. 00:54:02.206 --> 00:54:09.367 The thoughts, ideas, the things that were before me that I hadn't seen, that now I see have helped me move forward. 00:54:09.367 --> 00:54:22.128 I want people to live as a happy life as they are willing to put the effort into Nice and I love the fact that you know it's what you guys do for children too. 00:54:23.172 --> 00:54:29.170 And do you guys

do like anything like on the parent side, like how can I be a better parent with the stuff that I do? 00:54:29.974 --> 00:54:31.356 Yes, most definitely. 00:54:31.356 --> 00:54:35.309 We have a coaching system that helps parents. 00:54:35.309 --> 00:54:37.259 I do guide people through that. 00:54:37.259 --> 00:54:51.817 I've been teaching parenting classes for the last 22 years, over 22 years, and help them mold, because one of the things that I see is I go all the way to my oldest clients and see how life impacted them. 00:54:51.817 --> 00:54:53.887 I have a client that's 83 years old. 00:54:53.887 --> 00:54:56.858 Let me tell you how it impacted that individual. 00:54:56.858 --> 00:54:58.121 They're still suffering. 00:54:58.121 --> 00:55:07.280 They're 83, right, uh, 60, you name it psychologists, doctors, investors, people, they, they've all been impacted. 00:55:07.385 --> 00:55:13.286 And it didn't matter if they came from poverty, it didn't matter if they came from wealth, it didn't matter that. 00:55:13.286 --> 00:55:15.512 The human experience is the human experience. 00:55:15.512 --> 00:55:25.715 As a matter of fact, some people who came from more actually are suffering even more because they had a lack of attachment. 00:55:25.715 --> 00:55:40.190 You know, sometimes when we think about here's the mind shift that I would like people to do is when we think about adversity and poverty it's not always a bad thing, right, like adversity. 00:55:40.190 --> 00:55:57.878 Actually, imagine if you think about it like hey, you know, we have $10 for dinner, what are we going to do, and let's work together as a team, and they're like there's that attachment, there's that bonding, there's that collaboration, all of that as opposed to hey, you're going to be sent away for school somewhere. 00:55:58.840 --> 00:55:59.842 Yeah, there's a difference. 00:55:59.842 --> 00:56:03.693 Yeah, I mean we talked about the resourcefulness of our people. 00:56:03.693 --> 00:56:12.425 I think from poverty we're able to squeeze out as much as we can make big foods and from the cheapest meats and eat great, you know. 00:56:12.425 --> 00:56:16.724 So it's like yeah sometimes you need if you garden. 00:56:16.724 --> 00:56:19.213 You know some plants that grow on the ground. 00:56:19.213 --> 00:56:23.036 Without hard ground they don't grow big, you know. 00:56:23.036 --> 00:56:25.692 So, if the ground is too soft you get little. 00:56:25.692 --> 00:56:28.929 You know, like potatoes and stuff like that, they won't grow without that pressure. 00:56:29.264 --> 00:56:32.284 So you know, sometimes it's like that, so that's awesome. 00:56:32.284 --> 00:56:41.173 And one other question I have is have you talked to your son about everything in your life and your journey with him and had reflections on? 00:56:41.173 --> 00:56:50.161 You know what are the life lessons and what can you and I do to do a better job with the grandkids moving forward? 00:56:51.146 --> 00:56:53.735 You know, we haven't had conversations like that. 00:56:53.735 --> 00:56:57.072 We have had like vision, bigger vision conversations. 00:56:57.072 --> 00:57:15.737 Um, I feel like he's taken his own lessons and taught him in the way that's important for him to teach him to his son, next generation, different ways of molding, because there's always something that we get to shed right and um and mold within ourselves. 00:57:16.260 --> 00:57:20.773 I know I recently shared a vision that I had shared with him when he was 16 years old. 00:57:20.773 --> 00:57:30.092 He's 33 now, like son, you know, remember I said I would build this thing and like how cool would it be to build a program that's going to help people and families? 00:57:30.092 --> 00:57:32.193 And so I'm like son, I built it. 00:57:32.193 --> 00:57:38.108 I built it and like I didn't even know, I was just like pedal to the metal focus, focus, focus, focus. 00:57:38.108 --> 00:57:41.231 And then now, when we look at it, this provides wellbeing. 00:57:41.793 --> 00:57:43.394 This provides self-regulation. 00:57:43.394 --> 00:57:58.818 This provides people a better, happier, healthier relationship, marriage, whatever, job, life experience, because now we're even more aware of how we've been creating our world and we get to intentionally mold that experience for ourselves. 00:57:58.818 --> 00:58:00.599 So that's something that I know he's very proud of. 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.862 He's always talked about me. 00:58:02.862 --> 00:58:07.994 You know, when kids talk about their parents behind their back, mine talked in a very positive way. 00:58:08.494 --> 00:58:15.088 I go to school and people and the teachers would say you know, like Victor, like let me show you what he wrote about you, like he's so proud of you. 00:58:15.088 --> 00:58:21.351 Or parents, parents, friends, parents would say the same thing and I'm like, okay, that's great. 00:58:21.351 --> 00:58:24.574 And I remember him being 11 years old and he's like running down the stairs. 00:58:24.574 --> 00:58:27.625 He's like mom, how come you're different? 00:58:27.625 --> 00:58:29.231 And I'm like what are you talking about, son? 00:58:29.231 --> 00:58:30.094 How come you're different? 00:58:30.094 --> 00:58:36.375 He goes why, you know, like my uncles, they're drinking and driving and yelling at their kids and you're doing different things. 00:58:36.375 --> 00:58:43.132 And all I can say is that this is what I choose for us, right that I get to choose. 00:58:43.132 --> 00:58:44.615 Like life is a choice. 00:58:44.615 --> 00:59:00.106 The way, what it is that we're living outside of us came from inside of us, and if we change the inside of us, our mind, our body, the way that we processed emotions or the way emotions are stuck in our bodies. 00:59:00.106 --> 00:59:06.168 Then we can move forward and we can free ourselves and see things that we hadn't seen because now we're free. 00:59:06.751 --> 00:59:09.077 Yep, yep, that's awesome,

that's awesome. 00:59:09.077 --> 00:59:15.367 Well, so usually around the time, I like to ask a couple of questions at the end of our interview. 00:59:15.367 --> 00:59:29.018 But if you could go back in time especially since you deal with kids now, but with what you know now and go back to your younger version of yourself and coach yourself and give yourself some advice, what's something you would have told yourself? 00:59:30.487 --> 00:59:31.733 I would have said I love you. 00:59:31.733 --> 00:59:37.737 I would have said I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. 00:59:37.737 --> 00:59:42.028 I can't tell you how many times I see people like when I coach them. 00:59:42.028 --> 00:59:43.612 They break down. 00:59:43.612 --> 00:59:45.916 They literally break down. 00:59:45.916 --> 00:59:47.766 They're sobbing, they can't do it. 00:59:47.766 --> 00:59:49.391 They can't even see themselves in the eyes. 00:59:49.391 --> 00:59:50.936 I couldn't see myself. 00:59:50.936 --> 01:00:02.552 I would tell myself that I have the power to transform my life and that I'm the only one, like I've always knew that I was the only one. 01:00:02.552 --> 01:00:05.027 I would definitely encourage myself. 01:00:05.027 --> 01:00:08.793 That's what I would say I love you, I love you, I love you. 01:00:08.793 --> 01:00:10.036 You're amazing. 01:00:10.076 --> 01:00:11.237 And you're worth it. 01:00:11.237 --> 01:00:12.820 Yeah, thank you, that's awesome. 01:00:12.820 --> 01:00:19.356 That's really amazing and like you said words matter, and so I'm glad that's something amazing. 01:00:19.356 --> 01:00:20.010 And, like you said, words matter, and so I'm glad. 01:00:20.010 --> 01:00:20.920 I'm glad that's something that you would go back. 01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:22.181 You never know what people are going to say. 01:00:22.181 --> 01:00:25.048 You know, sometimes I'm always, I'm always shocked by this answer too. 01:00:25.048 --> 01:00:26.855 So it's always great. 01:00:26.855 --> 01:00:30.755 And then, finally, you know how do you say success in Spanglish. 01:00:30.755 --> 01:00:32.150 You know what does success mean to you? 01:00:33.605 --> 01:00:34.648 Success to me. 01:00:34.648 --> 01:00:48.108 When you said that I'm like like exit, though, and like what success means to me is whatever I want to live, whatever I choose to live, whatever makes my heart sing, um, what success means to me is that it is. 01:00:48.108 --> 01:00:53.639 It's about love, it's about being in peace and in harmony with myself. 01:00:53.639 --> 01:01:08.150 It's about constantly growing and understanding that if I say something, when I say something to, to individuals, I say it because it's from a place of love where sometimes we get like, oh my gosh, like she really said that. 01:01:08.150 --> 01:01:11.016 And it's like I say it because I love you. 01:01:11.476 --> 01:01:13.126 I say it because I want something for you. 01:01:13.126 --> 01:01:25.621 I say it because I'm willing to be uncomfortable in that, to see whatever comes out for your own good, to know that there's a ripple effect. 01:01:25.621 --> 01:01:28.353 So success means to me a lot of things. 01:01:28.353 --> 01:01:29.831 It means living a happy life. 01:01:29.831 --> 01:01:37.393 It means enjoying a moment yeah, it means enjoying a moment with people. 01:01:37.454 --> 01:01:38.356 Awesome. 01:01:38.356 --> 01:01:52.652 Yeah, we talked a little bit earlier about the goalposts constantly shifting sometimes, when what our definition of success is, and until you just do what you want and you're not worried about you're not keeping up with the Joneses, you're going to be much happier. 01:01:52.652 --> 01:01:56.014 So, thank you so much. 01:01:56.014 --> 01:02:02.007 I really appreciate you taking the time to jump on here with me and share your story. 01:02:02.007 --> 01:02:02.670 It's been great. 01:02:02.670 --> 01:02:06.065 Like I said, I've you've hit me over the head a few times and made me go. 01:02:07.389 --> 01:02:13.586 Yes, you know, so I hope others will listen in as well and get the same feeling that I had during this interview. 01:02:13.586 --> 01:02:16.514 But uh, if you want, you tell me you have. 01:02:16.514 --> 01:02:20.911 Plug anything you want your websites or whatever things you're doing. 01:02:21.492 --> 01:02:23.016 Thank you, the Mindshift Game. 01:02:23.016 --> 01:02:23.697 Look at it. 01:02:23.697 --> 01:02:24.286 Look us up. 01:02:24.286 --> 01:02:26.150 It's the mindshiftgamecom. 01:02:26.150 --> 01:02:29.237 You can also look me up on LinkedIn. 01:02:29.237 --> 01:02:30.766 We're on Facebook, instagram. 01:02:30.766 --> 01:02:32.206 Check it out. 01:02:32.206 --> 01:02:41.878 Call us, give us a call, send us a message 303-587-8367, 303-587-8367,. 01:02:41.878 --> 01:02:42.420 And take actions. 01:02:42.420 --> 01:02:48.956 Live your life on your terms, create the life that you'd love and desire, and it is possible for you to have what you desire. 01:02:49.405 --> 01:02:50.226 Nice, awesome. 01:02:50.226 --> 01:02:52.172 Well, thank you so much, rocio. 01:02:52.172 --> 01:02:57.150 I really appreciate you taking the time today and I look forward to see what you have next. 01:02:57.170 --> 01:02:58.936 Thank you so much. 01:03:00.925 --> 01:03:02.429 And for everyone else listening. 01:03:02.429 --> 01:03:09.356 Once again, thank you so much for joining me, and I hope you join me again next time, as we continue to learn how to see success in Spanish.